1 00:00:00,720 --> 00:00:04,600 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg Business of Sports. The world changing and 2 00:00:04,640 --> 00:00:06,440 Speaker 1: what are the things we can do to transform a 3 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: business and engage our fans globally in different ways. People 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 1: are using their name and likeness to create more opportunities, 5 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: more states and companies. In order to turn the organization around, 6 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:17,279 Speaker 1: we had to turn it around not only just on 7 00:00:17,440 --> 00:00:20,959 Speaker 1: baseball operations side, but other business operations side well, and 8 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 1: any other sport is very difficult, but I like to 9 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: blot my horizons and be able to expand. Sports need 10 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 1: to be consumed a lot and not to the big 11 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 1: competitive advantage for intual property holders of sports content in 12 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:39,920 Speaker 1: the media landscape. Bloomberg Business of Sports from Bloomberg Radio. Hello, 13 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: I'm Scarlet Food, I'm in for Jason Kelly, and I'm 14 00:00:42,400 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: Mike Lynch and Michael bar Over the next hour, we 15 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 1: will explore the big money issues in the world of 16 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:51,640 Speaker 1: sports and talk to some of the biggest players in 17 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 1: the industry. It is late August and the Olympics are 18 00:00:55,040 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 1: finally over. It's been just staggering amount of games, ship 19 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 1: and athletic prowess and of course incredible achievements dress ship 20 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:18,320 Speaker 1: dust from the United States. It's gotta and of course 21 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:21,360 Speaker 1: that was Caleb Dressel winning the one and that call 22 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:26,280 Speaker 1: courtesy of NBC Sports. Speaking of NBC Sports, Bar and Lynch, 23 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 1: the Tokyolympics did not do so well in TV ratings, 24 00:01:30,440 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 1: the lowest or smallest audience reading since NBC began covering 25 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:37,640 Speaker 1: the games back in and average of fifteen and a 26 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:41,240 Speaker 1: half million viewers for its primetime broadcasts and digital presentations 27 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: each night. Did you guys go home and watch the 28 00:01:43,600 --> 00:01:47,800 Speaker 1: Olympics every night? No? Uh, I mean I caught it 29 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: in the morning, in the real time when it was 30 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:55,640 Speaker 1: on by the time that the packaged it for the 31 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:59,520 Speaker 1: prime time viewing audience. Obviously I'm in the bed sleep 32 00:01:59,520 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 1: because I got be up for the next morning. But 33 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:05,360 Speaker 1: I caught it in prime time. Uh. But I have 34 00:02:05,440 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: to tell you, you you know, can we say sweet Merciful 35 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:10,919 Speaker 1: on the air? Okay, I'm gonna say it. The ratings 36 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 1: fifteen point five million prime time viewers, that's the average. 37 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 1: But boy, that is low compared to the other ones. 38 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 1: And and I wonder, folks, if we're saturated with sports 39 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 1: and maybe uh, social media has spoiled a lot, because 40 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: back in the day you had it in prime time. 41 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 1: But where I'm talking like fifty years ago, and you 42 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: had to watch the prime time viewing because you didn't 43 00:02:41,600 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: have social media back then. So the first time you'd 44 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: catch what happened, that was it. In fact, when in 45 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:54,079 Speaker 1: nine and the Winter Olympics when the US beat Russia, Yeah, 46 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: the miracle on ice, a lot of people didn't know, 47 00:02:57,160 --> 00:02:59,680 Speaker 1: so they saw that. Because you didn't have social media, 48 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:02,519 Speaker 1: you just you had to catch it, man, and h 49 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:09,519 Speaker 1: it was I'm just wondering now social media has hasted. Well, 50 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:12,359 Speaker 1: there's a lot of things that worked against these Tokyo Games. Uh. 51 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:14,919 Speaker 1: Number one was the time difference. One of the great 52 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:19,519 Speaker 1: parts of sports, unlike a play or a movie or 53 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 1: a concert, is that it's unscripted. You don't know what 54 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:24,120 Speaker 1: the outcome is gonna be. You don't know if that 55 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 1: person is gonna stand ten feet tall at the moment 56 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 1: of truth or just be another competitor in the games. 57 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 1: And every by the time most of us woke up 58 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 1: in the East Coast and in the United States, we 59 00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: knew the results and there was no reason to watch 60 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: during prime time. And I feel bad for all the 61 00:03:42,320 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 1: athletes whose moms and dad's drove them to the swimming pool, 62 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: to the gymnasium, to the hockey rink, and they were 63 00:03:48,760 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 1: not able to come over and watch their son or daughter. 64 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 1: And there's nothing, you know, to you nail a dismount 65 00:03:52,880 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: on the on the balanced beam and the place just 66 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 1: goes crazy and the roof blows off. They had none 67 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:59,000 Speaker 1: of that experience whatsoever at all. And this may be 68 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: one and done from probably the majority of the athletes 69 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 1: that were there. So it's it's really really hard. It's 70 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 1: a year late. There was covid um, you know, it 71 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 1: was in it was in a foreign country, and it 72 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: was just social media just gives you everything that's that 73 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: you need. They almost have need to have the Olympics 74 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 1: just just played in different time zones. Well, you know 75 00:04:18,279 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 1: we're going to get another chance next year because Beijing 76 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:24,280 Speaker 1: hosts the Winter Olympics and it's also going to be 77 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 1: a twelve hour time difference, so um, you're gonna have 78 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 1: the same problems crop up again. I just wonder if 79 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 1: we've already reached peak Olympics. There are seven thousand hours 80 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: of footage spread across the different channels and the different platforms, 81 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 1: and you know, the three of us are talking about 82 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 1: it as if you know we saw maybe collectively combined 83 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: one hour. Well part of it too is I wonder 84 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: now if NBC, uh, if they've learned something from this. 85 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:54,119 Speaker 1: And and let's be honest too, I mean, the whole 86 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 1: Tokyo Olympics had the entire COVID nineteen shadow over its head. 87 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: You didn't have anybody in the stands for the most 88 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 1: I mean for the first part you did, you know, 89 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 1: you had the the most important people there. That was it? Uh, 90 00:05:09,960 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 1: And I have to admit it. It didn't feel like 91 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: the way the Olympics used to be. And and again 92 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,719 Speaker 1: I go back to the miracle on ice when you 93 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:26,880 Speaker 1: know when the USA went ahead with mikey Rizzoni and 94 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:29,960 Speaker 1: Al Michael said it the best. You heard this cacophony 95 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: of sound at this arena at like Placid, and it 96 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 1: was it was, it was incredible. And you didn't hear that, No, 97 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 1: you didn't. And it's a shame for all the athletes 98 00:05:38,800 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: who trained all those years for the games. You know, 99 00:05:41,720 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: think about going to a buffet in Las Vegas with 100 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 1: all you can eat, all right, I'll take a little 101 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 1: bit of this, a little bit of that, but there's 102 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 1: no way I can eat this entire buffet by myself. 103 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 1: And that's what the Olympics was. I mean, it was 104 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 1: a giant buffet and you could just take little bits 105 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: and pieces right here. ABC did us a big favorite 106 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 1: years ago. They would condense twelve hours worth of action 107 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:02,719 Speaker 1: edited into a three hour primetime event and during the day, 108 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 1: and this is something NBC failed to do coming up tonight, 109 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 1: the exciting climax of the woman's fo to run. You 110 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: don't want to miss it, and you didn't get that 111 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 1: during the during the course of the day said I'm 112 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:15,080 Speaker 1: going to try to block my ears and not look 113 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: at my phone and see who wanted. Never happened. So 114 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:20,279 Speaker 1: there was never any drama. Everything was scripted and into 115 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: the outcome bad producing. You're blaming the producers. I love it. Sorry, Charlie. 116 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 1: All right, another story we're keeping an eye on here, 117 00:06:31,040 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 1: and Lyncha you talked about little bits and pieces. There's 118 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 1: new betting at the Ryder Cup. So here's a moment 119 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: that you can bet on this time that you couldn't 120 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 1: last year. At this time, he's in a good position. Now, 121 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: what's the energy that comes busting out for John Ron 122 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 1: the loved Spaniard to playing this rather cor and he 123 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:57,880 Speaker 1: has not had a bigger moment in his career thus far. 124 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: That was John Ron defeating Tiger Wood in Ryder Cup. 125 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 1: He didn't officially win it for Europe, but he got 126 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:07,920 Speaker 1: them really close. A foregone conclusion after the win, Um, 127 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 1: Mike Barr, would you be betting on the Ryder Cup? 128 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: All you have? That's all you have to say on 129 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: the Ryder Cup to any question that follows, anything that 130 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 1: follows after that. It's that's the thing. And I always wonder, 131 00:07:23,400 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: you know, if you to this to this day now 132 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:29,800 Speaker 1: in our sports world, a lot of people have their 133 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: cell phones and a lot of people now you know, 134 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: they'll they'll go to their spectators on the course and 135 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:39,160 Speaker 1: pushing in. It doesn't make a difference whether you're at 136 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:41,960 Speaker 1: watching a basketball game or whatever. But say that you're 137 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 1: on the course as a spectator and you're trying to 138 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 1: push a bet end You're trying to see, now, well, gee, 139 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 1: do I think that someone so I was gonna make 140 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: this pun or do I think he's gonna make that 141 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 1: punt or whatever, and you're pushing it in all of 142 00:07:52,960 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: a sudden and if you notice, I just wonder, now 143 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 1: if the spectators is gonna get a little more rowdy. 144 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: That's all of a sudden, you see it, and it's 145 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:06,560 Speaker 1: like before he or she takes the punt, he's like 146 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 1: you go, and you know that's is up the whole thing. 147 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: But that excitement when you bring betting to golf or 148 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:18,640 Speaker 1: any sport like that, that is going to happen. And 149 00:08:18,680 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 1: I think that's a big thing for the Ryder Cup. Yeah, 150 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 1: it's it's it's pretty exciting that that the outfit is 151 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 1: i MG Arena. They're based in London and now they've 152 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: made a deal with the p g A of America 153 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 1: of a data distribution in the Ryder Cup in live betting. 154 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:37,760 Speaker 1: So like tennis, golf is a game of momentum. Guy 155 00:08:37,920 --> 00:08:40,320 Speaker 1: Bertie's two holes. Okay, this guy's gonna run. I'm gonna 156 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 1: bet that he's gonna Bertie a par the next hole. 157 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:44,319 Speaker 1: Those things can come right up for you. The data 158 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 1: distribution may say, Okay, the seventeenth hole on Friday, this 159 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 1: player bo get it. On Saturdays, player bo get it. 160 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna bet that he's gonna bowe it again 161 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: because the data that has given me has told me 162 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 1: that he has failed to make par on this whole, 163 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 1: so you know it used to be before the events started. 164 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:01,920 Speaker 1: You can make a bet, who's gonna win Europe in 165 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 1: the United States? How many points is each team going 166 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 1: to score? Now you can go hold hold a hole 167 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 1: on a guy, especially if you're you're in a little 168 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: bit of a losing streak. You know you've got okay, 169 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 1: I got full holes left to recoup some of my 170 00:09:13,280 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 1: money right here. I think it's gonna be pretty exciting. 171 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 1: So Lynchy, we know that Mike Barr is gonna be 172 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 1: doing this, but are you gonna betting this rider Cup? 173 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 1: I may a little bit. Um, You know I haven't them. 174 00:09:22,480 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 1: I did bet um. I I enter pools all the 175 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: time to see, like in the in the four Majors, 176 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 1: like the Masters in the US opened you pick four 177 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:33,320 Speaker 1: or five guys and see how they do. I've never 178 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 1: done an in game betting in my life, but um, 179 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 1: I might be tempted a little bit too, because I 180 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 1: play golf, and I know what happens sometimes when you're 181 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 1: in a funk and you can't make a put, you 182 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 1: just can't get out of it. It's like quicksand the 183 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 1: harder you try, the worst you get. And so you know, 184 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 1: maybe that'll be my intangible I'll be like you know 185 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 1: that I'll be able to use when the in my bedding. 186 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: You know, you guys talked about how it will be 187 00:09:55,440 --> 00:09:58,120 Speaker 1: more exciting for the game. It'll really rile things up. 188 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:01,360 Speaker 1: I just kept picturing Hoppy gl More and whatever happened 189 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: at that, you know, on the sidelines when Adam Southern 190 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:06,920 Speaker 1: was trying to swing his his golf caubed like a 191 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 1: hockey stick shot. Yes, yes, though about the time you 192 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: got a little trouble with Bob Barker. I'm about to 193 00:10:17,400 --> 00:10:21,680 Speaker 1: take Barker in the fourth round. All I'm gonna say 194 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 1: is you all have to google that because that's one 195 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: of the funniest lines of the whole movie. I love 196 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 1: that line. He Lendi. I was gonna ask you, is 197 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 1: this a tax right off for you? Kind of like research? Yeah, 198 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 1: I think it has to me that my minus is 199 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: spinning right now. It could be a very profitable day 200 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: for me here with Bloomberg. You gotta call me, call 201 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 1: me what if you're going to do in game betting? 202 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:46,120 Speaker 1: Call me and then we're gonna go through this together. 203 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 1: And call me on my house phone because my my 204 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 1: cell phone. That's how I'm making the bet. So we 205 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 1: call me on my house phone. Well, we'll get this 206 00:10:53,280 --> 00:10:54,559 Speaker 1: going on. I'll show you how to do me in 207 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 1: game betting. I'm in today. I'm thrilled to say we 208 00:10:57,920 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: are speaking with NBA Hall of Famer Kevin Garnett as 209 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 1: well as Gaming Society founder Jamie Messler. So, Kevin, I'm 210 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 1: gonna start with you because you've had a lot of 211 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 1: great plays in your career, and one of them was 212 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:12,560 Speaker 1: against Michael Bars Detroit Pistons. So let's just revisit history 213 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:14,920 Speaker 1: for a moment. Going way by Ronaldo selfic driv Rong, 214 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 1: Ronald Lee for Pierce, has a step drop for the trailer, 215 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:21,840 Speaker 1: sick time plus for the right hand rol. You got 216 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:24,480 Speaker 1: a big fella. Now. I love Kevin Garnett, but this 217 00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 1: is the cut we picked. This is the audio. Really 218 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:29,559 Speaker 1: say that. I just want to say, Mike, I had 219 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 1: nothing to do with this. This is all you. I know, 220 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:37,400 Speaker 1: stitches get stitches. I just want to start the show 221 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:39,120 Speaker 1: by saying I had nothing to do with it. But 222 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:43,680 Speaker 1: thank you to the producers of the show. Wow, we 223 00:11:43,720 --> 00:11:47,880 Speaker 1: set the tone really quickly there, did Mike. I hope 224 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 1: you still like me, you know, I love you, man. 225 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:52,920 Speaker 1: I'm still putting I'm still putting back teen on that wound, 226 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:56,719 Speaker 1: man after that, So let it go, man, it's over. 227 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 1: Kevin and Jamie so thrilled that you could join us today. Kevin, 228 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 1: let's just get to it. Um. You've retired after NBA season. 229 00:12:07,480 --> 00:12:10,960 Speaker 1: You're working on different business interests and something you're working 230 00:12:10,960 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 1: on right now involves a partnership with Jamie Mustler and 231 00:12:14,559 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 1: has to do with gaming. Tell us what you're working on. Yeah, 232 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 1: we've We've we founded a great platform into betting and 233 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 1: we call it Gaming Society, and our heartbeat is we 234 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 1: want to help educate the better best betting. We feel 235 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 1: like there's a bit of I don't want to say irresponsibility, 236 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 1: but that's a great work to be accurate in the 237 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 1: betting category. And what we are trying to do is gamify, 238 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 1: if not simplified, mixing gaming with sports experiences, mixing betting 239 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:55,199 Speaker 1: with professional athletes that have actually been through the details 240 00:12:55,320 --> 00:12:57,960 Speaker 1: and the battles to be able to speak about experiences, 241 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 1: not just numbers in the in the Nut Show. We're 242 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 1: just trying to better educate those betters that are going 243 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 1: out betting each and every day. Each and every week 244 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 1: on sports. No, I flat out and tell you that 245 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:13,079 Speaker 1: I I will go and get amble. I am online, 246 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 1: and I will go to the online sites and I 247 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:19,920 Speaker 1: will do this and and I you know, but I 248 00:13:20,040 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 1: want to clarify to everybody You're not going to go 249 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 1: out there and make a living out of it because 250 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:31,480 Speaker 1: there's a very very very small percentage out there that 251 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 1: do it. But you can bet smart and smartly. And 252 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 1: so I've asked you to both u KG and and 253 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 1: to Jamie is how can you explain that to people? 254 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 1: It's like bet and bet smartly. Well, yeah, I think 255 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:48,080 Speaker 1: to Kevin's point, I mean, we just want to help 256 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:52,680 Speaker 1: create a more inclusive and accessible platform for people to 257 00:13:52,760 --> 00:13:55,079 Speaker 1: either learn how to bet on sports, or if they 258 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 1: already do that on sports, you want to give them 259 00:13:57,400 --> 00:14:00,560 Speaker 1: the tools to do it in a better way. I 260 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 1: think even was just saying, like having that heartbeat to 261 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: the data and analytics, like right now, there are a 262 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 1: lot of great platforms out there. There's a lot of 263 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:12,079 Speaker 1: information out there, but if go not an avid better, 264 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 1: it's going to go right over your head. It's very difficult, 265 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 1: it's intimidating, But we want to give people the education 266 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 1: to learn how about and then we want to give 267 00:14:22,400 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 1: people better tools to be a better, better big ticket. 268 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 1: This is the other Mike, Mike Clinch up in Boston, 269 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 1: and uh, I've been around here for about forty years. 270 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 1: Love covering you where you're here, man, and uh this 271 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 1: is and uh I'll never forget. Oh wait and uh 272 00:14:38,280 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 1: and how close we you came and intent out in 273 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 1: at the l A and the Staples Center game number seven. 274 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 1: But anyway, I just said that's all in the past. 275 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 1: So let's talk a little bit what your demographics are here. 276 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 1: I know that there's a looking on your website right here. 277 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 1: Bet On women is a big part of your campaign 278 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:57,120 Speaker 1: right now, tell me a little bit more about that. 279 00:14:57,400 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: First of all, we're glorifying women's sports. We don't feel 280 00:14:59,760 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: like this enough attention on women's sports. I'm sure you 281 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 1: guys have been during the debates men women, men, women, 282 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 1: women are have all the momentum. If you asked, asked me, 283 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:16,560 Speaker 1: you know, um, they have very few exposure and we're 284 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 1: just looking to amplify, if not magnify, women's sports. I 285 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 1: feel like if you know who these women are, you 286 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 1: know their sports, I feel like you have a better gauge, 287 00:15:26,680 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 1: just like a jar of sports. So for men, just 288 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 1: like we know the men athletes and we glorify them, 289 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 1: women are the same, and we configure that if we 290 00:15:35,560 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 1: give enough potension or we amplify this and put put 291 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 1: a real scope on it and teaching and and and 292 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:45,720 Speaker 1: and shoring videos and and having uh you know, just 293 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 1: different components that make up the women's sport. You know, 294 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 1: I feel like if you if you've ever watched a 295 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 1: women's soccer game, if you've ever watched a women's basketball 296 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:59,200 Speaker 1: game or anything, Um, I've never seen women do anything 297 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:01,280 Speaker 1: less than what me. And they do it with an effort, 298 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:03,040 Speaker 1: they do it with a tenacity, they do it with 299 00:16:03,080 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 1: a professional uh mindset. Uh. And we'll just say to 300 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: amplify that. You know, that's part about d n A, 301 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 1: not just educating betters, but glorifying and magnifying the women's 302 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:18,600 Speaker 1: get So, Jamie, you guys have announcing partnership with the 303 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:23,000 Speaker 1: w NBA Players Association UM to bet on women and 304 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:26,240 Speaker 1: it's part of this big campaign. I'm curious what kind 305 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:29,200 Speaker 1: of demand is there right now for betting on women's 306 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 1: pro sports from either the public or from the female 307 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 1: athletes themselves. Who I guess want their games to be 308 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:39,080 Speaker 1: part of high stakes wagers. Well, yeah, I think I 309 00:16:39,120 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 1: think part of it is that if you bet on women, 310 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 1: you have to know who they are. And to Kevin's point, 311 00:16:45,200 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 1: less than three percent of media coverages on women's sports 312 00:16:49,520 --> 00:16:52,240 Speaker 1: right now, so you have to see it. You have 313 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 1: to be able to see who these women are in 314 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 1: order to know. Um. So what we feel is like, 315 00:16:57,320 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 1: as the betting industry is exploding, if you game a 316 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 1: side women's sports, it helps you if you get if 317 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:05,760 Speaker 1: your skin in the game, if you have if you 318 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 1: make it a game, it makes it so there it's 319 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:11,919 Speaker 1: more interesting. I did I bet on p G a 320 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 1: event recently, and because I had money on it with 321 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 1: a friend, we just did it for fun. I was 322 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:20,920 Speaker 1: watching it all weekend and I think it's just that's 323 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 1: part of what gamification is, its engagement, it's social experiences. 324 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 1: And so it's funny because when I at Players Student, 325 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:30,360 Speaker 1: which is a company that I had started in two 326 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:33,399 Speaker 1: thousand and four, teams Neca, who's the president of the 327 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:36,240 Speaker 1: Women's of the w m b p A. She wrote 328 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 1: an article called bet on Women, and the w n 329 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 1: b p A trademarked it very smartly. And so when 330 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 1: Kevin and I were thinking about how do we want 331 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:49,400 Speaker 1: to amplify women's sports, how do we what's our part 332 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 1: of our strategy, Like, well, what better way than to 333 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: actually bet on women? And so we did a partnership 334 00:17:56,760 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 1: with the w n B p A to take that tagline. 335 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:03,399 Speaker 1: And we want to partner with different sports books who 336 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 1: want to partner with brands who want to help use 337 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 1: it as an opportunity. So like, if sports books are 338 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 1: incentivizing betters to bet on women, you know, it's part 339 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:15,639 Speaker 1: of a parley. They'll they'll get rewarded, and it starts 340 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:17,879 Speaker 1: to create a movement. So it's something that we've been 341 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:20,680 Speaker 1: working on is something we're really excited about. I think 342 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 1: that part of it is there are people that already 343 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:27,119 Speaker 1: are betting, and betting on women's sports is a great 344 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 1: way because especially when there's not a lot of sports 345 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 1: going on, it's also what we're told is easier to 346 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:35,119 Speaker 1: win because there's not as many people making bet But 347 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:38,000 Speaker 1: it's also a great way to educate people who are 348 00:18:38,119 --> 00:18:41,360 Speaker 1: learning about women's sports, or educate people that are already 349 00:18:41,560 --> 00:18:44,680 Speaker 1: watching the w to learn about betting in a responsible way. 350 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 1: You just use words I don't even understand, like parlay. 351 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 1: I know Michael Barr understands some parts. Oh yeah, that's 352 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:56,360 Speaker 1: what That's what we're doing. We're gonna we're gonna humanify 353 00:18:56,480 --> 00:18:58,640 Speaker 1: and and I use this phrase, but we're gonna dumb 354 00:18:58,680 --> 00:19:00,760 Speaker 1: it down a little bit. We feel like the games 355 00:19:00,800 --> 00:19:04,080 Speaker 1: society betting is too complicated to even follow at times, 356 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:07,160 Speaker 1: so we want to simplify it. Help you, help you educated, 357 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 1: know what the word, the meaning of the words means 358 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 1: everything from a even we're even thinking about or not 359 00:19:13,560 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 1: even thinking about, we're going to open up a university 360 00:19:15,840 --> 00:19:17,399 Speaker 1: where you can actually come in and get like a 361 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 1: one on one tutorial to better your education on the 362 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:24,679 Speaker 1: betting itself. So this is a true classroom, true learning place, 363 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:28,119 Speaker 1: true true platform to be able to better yourself in this. 364 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:31,080 Speaker 1: In the sphere right here, we were talking a little 365 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:33,639 Speaker 1: bit about gaming society and the goals here and how 366 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 1: it's tapping into, uh this fast growing category of betting 367 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 1: and games and doing so in an inclusive and accessible way. 368 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 1: This is a content platform, but it's also a business, 369 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:49,119 Speaker 1: um and I'm curious to hear how you're going to 370 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 1: monetize this. How are you making your money. What is 371 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 1: the business model? A subscription model is an advertising based 372 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 1: To talk about the betting industry right now, it's massively exploding, 373 00:19:58,840 --> 00:20:02,040 Speaker 1: and I think the biggest opportunity for us that we 374 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 1: see is building audience and giving you know, content and 375 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:10,399 Speaker 1: interesting perspectives to our audience. Um because you're seeing in 376 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 1: this space, some of the biggest acquisitions are around media companies, 377 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:16,879 Speaker 1: right like Penn National just last week acquired The Score 378 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:19,719 Speaker 1: for two billion dollars. Action Networks with acquires for two 379 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 1: gen forty million, and they're just focusing on especially like 380 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 1: the Action Network for example, is focusing on those core betters. 381 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 1: And for us, as we look at the eighty million 382 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 1: sports fans who have an interest in betting but don't 383 00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:36,120 Speaker 1: know how, we find it intimidating. We want to give 384 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 1: them the tools to do it, so creating social experiences, 385 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 1: creating educational experiences, and give them if they do want 386 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:45,639 Speaker 1: to make a bet, they're going to go to the 387 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:48,640 Speaker 1: Betting Academy. So Kevin was just talking about our first 388 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:50,879 Speaker 1: vertical that we're really focused on, which is called the 389 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:54,359 Speaker 1: Betting Academy, and it's the way that we're educating people 390 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 1: on how to bet so if you learn how to 391 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 1: bet on our platform, then we're going to give you 392 00:20:59,080 --> 00:21:02,120 Speaker 1: which we're promotion in through to DraftKings or fans will 393 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 1: or MGM beds, but to betting Academy. No, it's free 394 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 1: to play. But what's happening right now in the industry 395 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:12,280 Speaker 1: is affiliate marketing is very um. They're paying a lot 396 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:15,120 Speaker 1: of money to get the new users. So one part 397 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:17,760 Speaker 1: of our strategy is to take advantage of affiliate marketing 398 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,199 Speaker 1: and to send people to these sports books while we 399 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 1: build our audience. And then as we're building our audience, 400 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:28,120 Speaker 1: we're doing branded partnerships, the branded content STAN Engagement UM. 401 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 1: Then down the road we are doing a subscription business. 402 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 1: And one of the things that this is more of 403 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 1: a passion project for Kevin, but really giving that game 404 00:21:37,119 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 1: report too. So we have a newsletter that we've just 405 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 1: launched UM and eventually we're going to have a game 406 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:46,640 Speaker 1: report where we're giving fans and betters the whole three 407 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:51,359 Speaker 1: sixty of what the tools to make good best data analytics. 408 00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:53,359 Speaker 1: You know, Kevin, you can probably talk to that. I 409 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 1: think that that's part of the battle. It's just a 410 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 1: bat or a part of it, you know, intricate betters 411 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 1: look for advantages, they look or different UH data that 412 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:07,159 Speaker 1: that goes into games. Partnering with UH specific athletes in 413 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 1: certain fields is to get those experiences, to get those 414 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 1: athletes to give you know what the computer does. You 415 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 1: take the numbers, you put the numbers into a computer, 416 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 1: it spits out of result. Well, what that result doesn't 417 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,240 Speaker 1: tell you is that on the back to back when 418 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:26,919 Speaker 1: you play forty plus minutes, that's a real intangible that 419 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 1: you have to pay attention in there. You don't have 420 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 1: the same energy rate. You know. UH, those two games 421 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:35,200 Speaker 1: are very different from energetically, So we're giving more the 422 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 1: athlete experience in those games mixed with the analytics and 423 00:22:38,680 --> 00:22:41,680 Speaker 1: data that goes into these games and trying to get 424 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 1: a different it's going to be a different result when 425 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,680 Speaker 1: that when that machine spitched it out with these intangibles, 426 00:22:47,720 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 1: So we're bringing those two worlds together. There is something 427 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:55,880 Speaker 1: that is very important in online betting when you're going 428 00:22:55,960 --> 00:23:00,320 Speaker 1: to a draft Kings or any online sports book, and 429 00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:03,440 Speaker 1: that's in game betting. That is huge And I know 430 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:08,119 Speaker 1: if you're a new gambler that is a bit intimidating, 431 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 1: but if you really break it, down. It really isn't. 432 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:14,639 Speaker 1: It's almost like the stock market where you're seeing, you know, 433 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:18,239 Speaker 1: the as the game continues on, you're gonna see the 434 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 1: odds change. Can you can you take us through that? 435 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:25,159 Speaker 1: And how to not make that as intimidating as it seems. 436 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 1: I think the whole message here is to humified And 437 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna try to answer your questions best as I can, 438 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:34,879 Speaker 1: because I'm not an advocate better and when you're an 439 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 1: athlete and you want to put your whole, wholeheart and 440 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 1: everything into your into your craft, I have it. I've 441 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 1: never looked at betting. UM. I love the ideal of 442 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 1: helping the better educate, and I love our platform to 443 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 1: simplify things. I think when things are more simplified, you 444 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 1: get confidence from them. UM. The in game stuff is 445 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:02,120 Speaker 1: is a more of a um stimulant to keep you 446 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 1: um stimulated throughout the whole game, you know, versus you're 447 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:08,919 Speaker 1: taking this quarter off or you know, going to the 448 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 1: going to the bathroom. You know, when you're really into 449 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 1: a game, or you really into something, you don't really 450 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,560 Speaker 1: want to move from it. And I think that those 451 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:19,320 Speaker 1: things with the in game betting, those are the stimulus 452 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:21,879 Speaker 1: that have people excited. Those are the people that I 453 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:24,400 Speaker 1: think keep them in a revolving door to keep coming 454 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: back to bet. But again, when you have those challenges 455 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 1: of understanding the wordplay and some of these bets, UM, 456 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:34,479 Speaker 1: it makes those in gaming UH bets a little more 457 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:38,440 Speaker 1: difficult to understand. So I see, you know, we're we're 458 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:40,639 Speaker 1: following the pattern that we don't see a lot. And 459 00:24:40,680 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 1: I think that if we simplify those things, that you're 460 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:45,399 Speaker 1: gonna start to see more people betting in those in 461 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:49,920 Speaker 1: games UM probables, and you're gonna have uh different results. 462 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:53,480 Speaker 1: And I see the voluntarity of that growing from people 463 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,359 Speaker 1: just having confidence in doing so. But I love the 464 00:24:56,359 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 1: way draft Kings UM I have and saying Due and 465 00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 1: all the other UH platforms are making betting fun. Jamie 466 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 1: got some dope ways of bringing UH just casual betting. 467 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:10,399 Speaker 1: You know, when the guys sitting on a on a 468 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,720 Speaker 1: corner or kid it or women or women or when 469 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,520 Speaker 1: women are together. Guys. I know, we bet push ups 470 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,120 Speaker 1: all the time, we bet high fives, we bet down 471 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 1: in back all the time. I think women probably bet 472 00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 1: wine and bath bombs or whatever. But we want to 473 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:28,159 Speaker 1: simplify the more humanify it if you could. You know, 474 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:30,159 Speaker 1: we want to have some fun parts to betting, you 475 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:31,879 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying that think about that. Yeah, we 476 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:35,439 Speaker 1: can bet the bath bombs or some wine, um, and 477 00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 1: that's just the human part of it. But I think 478 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:40,399 Speaker 1: that when you do stuff like that and you simplify 479 00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,800 Speaker 1: it and you humanify it, if that's even a word, um, 480 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 1: you make it people. Confidence grows from that and those 481 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 1: in game and tangibles saying somebody gonna get fifteen points 482 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 1: in the quarter, or he's gonna score two testdowns before halftime. 483 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 1: All these stuff. All these things right here, they sound 484 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,439 Speaker 1: great and they sound like dreams. We bring them athletes 485 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,159 Speaker 1: in to simplify this and to make it fun. I 486 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:03,360 Speaker 1: think it makes the move valerable. So that's the hope. 487 00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 1: And all that old man like me, you're starting to 488 00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:12,919 Speaker 1: bet epsom salt, all that still works. If i'm if, 489 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 1: I'm if, I'm gonna put your aro some They got 490 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 1: they got something new bet in the episode and they 491 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:23,440 Speaker 1: call it bath bomb a little bit anything. Check that out, 492 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 1: Check that out. I got the water running. It's we're 493 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 1: talking right now. kJ I'm gonna jump in as soon 494 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:31,639 Speaker 1: as we're done. With this interview, want to follow in 495 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:35,120 Speaker 1: there right, I'm gonna do a pal um. I want 496 00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:37,480 Speaker 1: to talk more about these intangibles. So having someone like 497 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:41,360 Speaker 1: you on board is invaluable because I don't know what 498 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 1: arena is the toughest arena to play in the fourth quarter. 499 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:47,080 Speaker 1: I don't know that certain teams just just sort of 500 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 1: cave in the fourth quarter. I don't know what what what? 501 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 1: What guys are in great physical condition? Uh? And that 502 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,199 Speaker 1: is this something that that someone like you brings to 503 00:26:55,240 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 1: the table for this in game betting. Well, absolutely, I'm 504 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:03,560 Speaker 1: giving you the experience. Give me an give me an example, 505 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 1: Give me example KG back when you're playing for the Celtics, Okay, Uh, 506 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:09,120 Speaker 1: someplace that you know you were never ever gonna lose, 507 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,200 Speaker 1: especially when it came to the fourth quarter. One a reader, 508 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 1: one team. So that doesn't exist, Okay, okay, exists because 509 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,399 Speaker 1: every every game is different, and what you did in 510 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,600 Speaker 1: this arena today, it could be a totally different game. 511 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 1: You know, the strategy and the players that they had, 512 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,160 Speaker 1: say like the Chicago Bulls, never I will go back 513 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:28,840 Speaker 1: to Chicago. I love to play against Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen, 514 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 1: Dennis Robin, my my family was there, my boys were there, 515 00:27:32,320 --> 00:27:35,200 Speaker 1: my my everything from high school was there, my old coach, players, 516 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 1: all this other stuff. So I had a different energy 517 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,160 Speaker 1: when I came to Chicago. Now, when Michael Jordan left 518 00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 1: and tipping and all those guys robbing up and it 519 00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,879 Speaker 1: was run our chest and it was and it was 520 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 1: I don't I can't even name it, and I can't 521 00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,840 Speaker 1: even name anybody else. It wasn't the same. It was 522 00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:52,440 Speaker 1: same going to Chicago, but that's still in the plan 523 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,359 Speaker 1: against Michael in the competition. It was a difference, and 524 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,679 Speaker 1: I came in with a different attitude and a different 525 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 1: um mindset. You. I came in that you know these 526 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:03,280 Speaker 1: I came in as a kid playing with that, and 527 00:28:03,280 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 1: then when I got older and started, uh playing them 528 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 1: on one dominant force and what to expect, um, I 529 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 1: was a different player. I say that to say that 530 00:28:11,880 --> 00:28:14,880 Speaker 1: every game is different. But if I was to tell 531 00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 1: you that, Okay, we played Monday, Tuesday, and Monday, I 532 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:21,119 Speaker 1: had all the energy in the world to play, and 533 00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 1: then uh we played Let's say we're playing at home 534 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 1: and then we have to travel to Chicago after the game. Well, 535 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:29,399 Speaker 1: I probably had a great game because I had the 536 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,280 Speaker 1: energy I had the day before to prep on the 537 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 1: back to back. That's different. Um, I just played the 538 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:38,160 Speaker 1: whole game forty some minutes. I'm super tired. Probably tonight 539 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 1: I probably won't play forty minutes. I probably played thirty 540 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 1: something minutes. And um, the offense is probably to go 541 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 1: through a couple more guys versus me. Like a machine 542 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 1: can't tell you that a machine can't tell you in game. Um, 543 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,959 Speaker 1: in game intangibles that go on a machine, you put them, 544 00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 1: You put the numbers in, maybe been and back out. 545 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 1: They tell you what it is. If I was to 546 00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 1: tell you that, yeah, that guy's not gonna be that, 547 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 1: you know, not like he was last night. I can 548 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 1: see him having a good rhythm and shooting the ball, 549 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 1: but he's not gonna play that long to be able 550 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 1: to do X, Y and Z. Those are the tangibles 551 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 1: I'm talking about. The end game experience is that you 552 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,680 Speaker 1: can only get from the athlete and the athlete on it. 553 00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 1: All right, KG, congratulations, I know you don't want to 554 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 1: talk about individual awards. Team has always been number one 555 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 1: for you, But going into the Basketball Hall of Fame, 556 00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 1: tell me what that meant to you? And when he 557 00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 1: was a nervous giving your acceptance speeches who were going 558 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 1: up against the Lakers in Game six or game number 559 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 1: seven and oh eight and ten. To answer the first 560 00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:38,560 Speaker 1: part of the question, UM, I think you don't get 561 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:41,960 Speaker 1: anywhere in the team's sport without your teammates, without your coaches, 562 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 1: without the organization. UM. To answer the second part of 563 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 1: the question, UM, I never really get nervous playing basketball. 564 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 1: I get anxious. I have a bit of anxiety because 565 00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,479 Speaker 1: I'm ready to go UM, but I never get nervous. 566 00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:59,800 Speaker 1: But when speaking from the heart and giving heart felt 567 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 1: UM speeches or comments, I can get choked up. So 568 00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 1: when they put you on the time limit, I was 569 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 1: more worried about the time limit versus the speech. So 570 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 1: when I got up there, I was already had a 571 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 1: little anxiety about my speech fitting in the time, so 572 00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 1: I cut out a couple of things, but I had 573 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:20,520 Speaker 1: memorized it. I didn't want to read from a card. 574 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,479 Speaker 1: I want to speak from the heart, and I did so, 575 00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:27,480 Speaker 1: and I felt like, uh, like the Hall of Fame 576 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 1: first off, was something that came out of that came 577 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 1: out of like the blue, like you know when you're 578 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,200 Speaker 1: playing in the backyard and you're playing in the park 579 00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 1: and you you know you're a five four three two one. 580 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,520 Speaker 1: You dream about hitting the last shot, you dream about winning, 581 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 1: But the dream is never to be a hall of 582 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 1: fame or to be sculpted into the walls of many 583 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:48,360 Speaker 1: that come through here. So I was more than overwhelmed 584 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 1: with the with the with the achievement, and uh to 585 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,240 Speaker 1: go in with Code and Timmy, it was just perfect 586 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 1: company dealing on their own personal um, their own personal 587 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 1: careers and battling up and gets them. It just it 588 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 1: was just a culmination of a perfect time coming all together, 589 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 1: ending perfectly. And then now I get to actually present 590 00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 1: Paul and in his ensurrement. So it's it's it's just 591 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 1: the gift that keeps on giving the game of basketball. 592 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 1: Is there great to me? Um, I'm I'm forever indebted, 593 00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:25,040 Speaker 1: And uh yeah, the Hall of Fame was just Cherry's 594 00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:27,440 Speaker 1: on top. If if I can, if I can actually 595 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:32,239 Speaker 1: making a kind of a you know, but it was 596 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 1: it was totally unexpected and I didn't even think about 597 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:38,240 Speaker 1: it until it was over and they presented it to me, 598 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 1: and I'm just I'm just honored. Overwhelming would be the word, 599 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 1: but I'm super honored. Hard work did pay off and 600 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 1: it adds to all your accolades. Um. You know you 601 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 1: you also have an IMDb page now because you were 602 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 1: in uncut Gems. Um, you got a lot of good 603 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 1: reviews for that. What was the feedback from from uh, 604 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:03,040 Speaker 1: your fan base and from the movie industry. I have 605 00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 1: a table full of stuff that either looks like uncom 606 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:11,160 Speaker 1: gems or it's like kind of memiking uncons My fans 607 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:14,240 Speaker 1: loved it. People in the industry thought I should do 608 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,360 Speaker 1: more acting. Um, I want to. I want to throw 609 00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 1: a question back to you guys, because it's kind of 610 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 1: you know, um and getting the part and they asked 611 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,200 Speaker 1: for me to play myself. I looked at it and 612 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 1: I was like, huh, can you mess up playing yourself 613 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:31,840 Speaker 1: like Mike? If they had you come into a movie, 614 00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 1: could you could you play Mike? Could you mess up 615 00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:40,160 Speaker 1: being Mike? You haven't seen my life, man, I've already. 616 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 1: I think it's easy to yourself though, and I didn't. 617 00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 1: I you know what, I thought about the things that 618 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 1: people don't know about me, and I brought that to it, 619 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 1: you know, like in a sense of way, I would 620 00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,920 Speaker 1: be betting on something or if I was or if 621 00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,360 Speaker 1: if if if if you said something to me and 622 00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 1: I was interacting with you are and we was in 623 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 1: the jury store leveraging or negotiating on price, like all 624 00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 1: types of things. Talked to me and spoke to me 625 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:10,160 Speaker 1: about the part. So it wasn't things that was kind 626 00:33:10,160 --> 00:33:12,880 Speaker 1: of far fester or things that I haven't experienced. They 627 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 1: actually I felt quite close to home. And uh, it 628 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 1: just made it for better better cinema, a better better TV. 629 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 1: Because Adam is is playing with you the whole time. 630 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 1: He's messing with you every day. I think I got 631 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 1: a little more extra um in my dialogue. My dialogue 632 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,479 Speaker 1: was was decent, and then all of a sudden they 633 00:33:34,480 --> 00:33:36,240 Speaker 1: start that I can actually do the job, and then 634 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,280 Speaker 1: my book of dialogues start to get a little more 635 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:41,440 Speaker 1: So I guess that's I guess that's a pat on 636 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 1: the back for myself and the I don't know, I 637 00:33:45,920 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 1: guess an example of of of of me doing well 638 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 1: in the movie. But I'm just glad it all it 639 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,320 Speaker 1: all worked out. Four was cruel to work with. Adam 640 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 1: was super duke dope to work with all the guys, Julia, 641 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,960 Speaker 1: all the guys, the Southey brother, the Julia Fox, everybody 642 00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,080 Speaker 1: was going. There was class, it was. It was one 643 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 1: of the better experiences in my life. So but more acting, 644 00:34:07,640 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 1: I can't promise you that you know dealing on how 645 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:12,800 Speaker 1: TV is and all the weird stuff on TV. But 646 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:16,880 Speaker 1: if for Roles sales right, I'll consider it the old 647 00:34:17,120 --> 00:34:21,840 Speaker 1: analogy when one window closes, another one opens. And you 648 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 1: were very close to buying the Minnesota Timberwolves along with 649 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 1: the Minnesota Links, but eventually it was bought by Alex 650 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 1: Rodriguez his group and Mark lore It. How would things 651 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 1: have changed? And and Jamie I bring this in also, 652 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 1: how do you both think things would have changed if 653 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:47,319 Speaker 1: you actually would have purchased the Minnesota Timberwolves instead of 654 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 1: the the venture that you're in now. I will say 655 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 1: that any venture that you're doing takes to the tangle. 656 00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 1: And if Glint Taylor doesn't have any kind of passion 657 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:05,360 Speaker 1: or any um any types of solution based and actually partnering, 658 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:07,840 Speaker 1: then that's the only way something like that is going 659 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,200 Speaker 1: to happen. I was in control of what I was 660 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:13,640 Speaker 1: in control of, and like everybody else, put my bid 661 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:17,359 Speaker 1: in like everybody else, and it just didn't go. And 662 00:35:17,440 --> 00:35:21,399 Speaker 1: it was unfortunate. It doesn't mean I can't necessarily look 663 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:27,799 Speaker 1: to other endeavors or other um situations. But Minnesota was personal. Uh, 664 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:29,839 Speaker 1: it spoke to me. It felt like the right thing. 665 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:32,680 Speaker 1: And at the end of the day, the parties can't 666 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,480 Speaker 1: see it. So I can't be mad at somebody else's 667 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 1: vision and what they want for for for themselves or 668 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:42,360 Speaker 1: what they want for their for their for their property 669 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 1: or their own. UM. I can only control what I 670 00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:49,080 Speaker 1: can control, but I'm I'm super excited about this, about 671 00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:52,480 Speaker 1: this um new endeavor with game and society. Education is 672 00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:54,360 Speaker 1: my when when I go back and I talked to 673 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:56,919 Speaker 1: young players, and I speak to young female and male 674 00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:00,719 Speaker 1: players always speak from a not to some experience, but 675 00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,279 Speaker 1: I speak from an education point like I want you 676 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:06,360 Speaker 1: to walk away from talking to Kevin Garnett feeling like 677 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,799 Speaker 1: you learned something, or feeling like you've got one up, 678 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,239 Speaker 1: or feel like you gotta tip. And I feel like 679 00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,600 Speaker 1: a lot of times that's my responsibility to this young 680 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:15,839 Speaker 1: generation to to you know, yeah, a lot a lot 681 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:18,840 Speaker 1: of young people are looking for solution based things and 682 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 1: I and I consider myself just that the gaining society's 683 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:24,920 Speaker 1: gonna be something to where people cannot be better, but 684 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 1: it's going to actually gain confidence, you know. You know 685 00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 1: it's funny that when you go to learn new stuff 686 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 1: and it's a one on one and it's kind of 687 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:35,680 Speaker 1: on a on a very elementary level, watch when you 688 00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:39,480 Speaker 1: go through all the little uh university and you learn 689 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:42,319 Speaker 1: the wording and you learn what it pushes, you learn 690 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,239 Speaker 1: something of some of the phrases. I learned a little 691 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:46,719 Speaker 1: phrase the other day that I said, oh wow, I 692 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,480 Speaker 1: didn't even know that, and the contents I got off 693 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:53,000 Speaker 1: that to understand what's the conversation now Asal gave me 694 00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:54,879 Speaker 1: the the ability to say, oh, you know what I'm 695 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:56,239 Speaker 1: gonna say out of this on the or yeah, I'm 696 00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,279 Speaker 1: a bet on this one. So that's the hope in 697 00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:00,160 Speaker 1: all of this. And you know, I come be at 698 00:37:00,200 --> 00:37:03,880 Speaker 1: about a better endeavor like the game of society and 699 00:37:03,920 --> 00:37:08,440 Speaker 1: helping people better themselves. You know, betting is a responsibility, 700 00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 1: so you know, helping people be more responsive towards something. 701 00:37:11,640 --> 00:37:14,160 Speaker 1: So that's that's a good season. All. So you know, 702 00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,560 Speaker 1: I probably missed out on one thing, but I'm getting 703 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:20,600 Speaker 1: it by by jumping into something else. So Jamie and 704 00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:24,759 Speaker 1: Kevin on your website, there's a confidence level questionnaire, and 705 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:27,440 Speaker 1: there are five quick questions. One is I get nothing 706 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:30,239 Speaker 1: sports mighters will be a foreign language. I better on 707 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,239 Speaker 1: big games, but I have no idea what I'm doing. 708 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:35,080 Speaker 1: I know how to bet, but my wallet says otherwise. 709 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:37,680 Speaker 1: I like to bet regularly, but I stick to basics, 710 00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,840 Speaker 1: or I'm a betting sharp. Which one of those five 711 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:44,600 Speaker 1: gets the most clicks? Actually it's not this third one, 712 00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:48,160 Speaker 1: the one where people are like it's like average, right, 713 00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,239 Speaker 1: They're just like not they know a little bit, but 714 00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,200 Speaker 1: they don't know too much to be dangerous. And I 715 00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:54,920 Speaker 1: think that's where And as of just going off of 716 00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:56,920 Speaker 1: what Kevin was saying, I feel like what we want 717 00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,640 Speaker 1: to do is just have fun in force and add 718 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,320 Speaker 1: another a layer for you to have some with your friends. 719 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:04,919 Speaker 1: So when we're talking about like not to go back, 720 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:06,600 Speaker 1: so the bast bombs in the wine, but to me, 721 00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:09,120 Speaker 1: that is a fun thing. Like if I bet with 722 00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:12,440 Speaker 1: you tonight that the Lakers are gonna win, and can 723 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,400 Speaker 1: I send you a bottle of wine through Postmates if 724 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:16,239 Speaker 1: I lose? Like how do we make more peer to 725 00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:19,600 Speaker 1: peer betting? How do we create groups of social experiences? 726 00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,040 Speaker 1: So a lot of what we're talking about is betting, 727 00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:25,920 Speaker 1: but it's just it's really having fun. It's gamification and 728 00:38:25,920 --> 00:38:27,719 Speaker 1: and so that's why, like Kevin and I are having 729 00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,320 Speaker 1: a really good time. Like but I love about Kevin 730 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,440 Speaker 1: and honestly we couldn't have We got together in such 731 00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:35,680 Speaker 1: a great way and and and I feel like I 732 00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:38,520 Speaker 1: have such a similar vision, be so creative and it 733 00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,200 Speaker 1: has so many great ideas and so now we just 734 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,879 Speaker 1: want to execute and and get the right We're really 735 00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:46,520 Speaker 1: focused on building the dream team. We have an incredible 736 00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:48,760 Speaker 1: group of people that are helping us build out the content. 737 00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:52,400 Speaker 1: We have the newsletters that goes out every week right now. Um, 738 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:53,920 Speaker 1: and so it's just something that we're having a really 739 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:55,640 Speaker 1: good time with and we think we see that it's 740 00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,920 Speaker 1: an opportunity to really scale. And Jamie, you know a 741 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:02,160 Speaker 1: thing or two about intent, right because you co founded 742 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,839 Speaker 1: the Players Tribune with Derek Jeter back in the day. 743 00:39:04,920 --> 00:39:08,000 Speaker 1: You were really the mastermind behind the strategy, the long 744 00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:11,000 Speaker 1: term vision of the business, uh, linking up with the 745 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:14,840 Speaker 1: industry sales and marketing, and of course um overseeing athlete 746 00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:18,160 Speaker 1: relations as well. I know that you're no longer doing that, 747 00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:21,200 Speaker 1: but stepping back for a moment, given all the changes 748 00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:24,120 Speaker 1: we've seen and how the world deals with mental health 749 00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:27,359 Speaker 1: and how we acknowledge it in for professional athletes and 750 00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,480 Speaker 1: pro athletes are talking about it themselves, what what kind 751 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,320 Speaker 1: of I wonder, what kind of first person account would 752 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:35,960 Speaker 1: you like to read that you haven't seen yet on 753 00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:39,799 Speaker 1: on something like the Players Tribune. Well, for me, it's 754 00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:42,120 Speaker 1: just about, like, I feel like we disrupted the industry 755 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,319 Speaker 1: in a way where we empowered athletes to have a 756 00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,920 Speaker 1: voice at a time when like there's no there was 757 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:50,080 Speaker 1: no trust with the media, there wasn't a lot of 758 00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:53,600 Speaker 1: opportunities for athletes to tell their stories in a safe 759 00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:56,239 Speaker 1: place and have it still be authentic, and that looks 760 00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:59,279 Speaker 1: like a press release, and so I just I'm really proud. 761 00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:03,160 Speaker 1: I think there's a athletes every day talking about how 762 00:40:03,239 --> 00:40:06,560 Speaker 1: they how they really feel and do things that maybe 763 00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:09,200 Speaker 1: they wouldn't have felt comfortable doing. When you see Naomi 764 00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:13,320 Speaker 1: and Simone most recently, Um, I think the conversations that 765 00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,080 Speaker 1: work started on the Players Student have have helped empower 766 00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,680 Speaker 1: athletes to talk about mental health, to talk about things 767 00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:22,080 Speaker 1: that are personal and authentic, and it's changing the game. 768 00:40:22,120 --> 00:40:26,080 Speaker 1: It's it's making sure there's mental health awareness and professionals 769 00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:28,960 Speaker 1: and front offices and back offices and making sure that 770 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:32,080 Speaker 1: there's more opportunity for athletes to have what they need 771 00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:34,640 Speaker 1: to be successful because people don't always think about that. 772 00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,600 Speaker 1: So I'm proud of what we've built where that was 773 00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:41,440 Speaker 1: actually UM next what we we fild a show to Netflix, 774 00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,920 Speaker 1: um right before I actually left Players Tribune. It was 775 00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:48,160 Speaker 1: in partnership with these amazing directors, the Way Brothers and 776 00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:52,719 Speaker 1: Propagate of great production company, and it just launched last 777 00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:55,520 Speaker 1: the other day and they did the first the first 778 00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:58,279 Speaker 1: film is now it's at the Palace and watching it, 779 00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:00,640 Speaker 1: it's like, Oh, I didn't know that. I never heard 780 00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:03,880 Speaker 1: these athletes perspectives, Like why not? Why why are we 781 00:41:03,960 --> 00:41:07,000 Speaker 1: not hearing? You know, I think it's too important of 782 00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:09,640 Speaker 1: a prospective to not hear when you're talking about sports 783 00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:15,359 Speaker 1: and athletes. I know that obviously the NBA, I mean, 784 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:18,000 Speaker 1: we've got that down pad about betting and understanding the 785 00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:21,640 Speaker 1: situation because you've got KG in the corner. What about 786 00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:24,160 Speaker 1: other sports? Are we're talking about the NFL, We're talking 787 00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:27,960 Speaker 1: about hockey, We're talking about baseball? Are we into those 788 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:31,960 Speaker 1: avenues as well? We're working with athletes that our breath 789 00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:34,879 Speaker 1: and our heartbeating what we're talking about. But we are. 790 00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:37,880 Speaker 1: And then too we're looking at the masters of the games. 791 00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:40,200 Speaker 1: You know, we just don't want players who want masters, 792 00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:44,279 Speaker 1: people that were not not necessarily successful, but has had 793 00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:50,640 Speaker 1: really positive experiences emily dominated their positions. Um, we're looking 794 00:41:50,680 --> 00:41:53,560 Speaker 1: for men and women. Um, not just that, but also 795 00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:57,319 Speaker 1: with handicappers, handicappers that you know, no, Betty, know how 796 00:41:57,360 --> 00:42:01,960 Speaker 1: to articulate. Um. And again sitting our heartbeat and sitting 797 00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:06,160 Speaker 1: who we are. No, that's very important. But yeah, we're 798 00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,719 Speaker 1: working with a bunch of different athletes in different sports 799 00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:10,680 Speaker 1: and we want them to be masters of their crowd 800 00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:15,640 Speaker 1: in their sports respect. So so Jamie and KG before 801 00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,719 Speaker 1: I wrap up here, so many athletes now are just 802 00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:22,480 Speaker 1: immediately going into business ventures, sometimes before they're playing days 803 00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:25,759 Speaker 1: are over, like Lebron James with Maverick Carter also with 804 00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:27,880 Speaker 1: his with the Family Sports Group. You've got Jeter and 805 00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,560 Speaker 1: a Rod involved. Magic Johnson was probably the first. He 806 00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:33,120 Speaker 1: got Michael Jordan's and a lot of people would say, well, 807 00:42:33,160 --> 00:42:34,640 Speaker 1: you made so much money, you should be sitting on 808 00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:36,840 Speaker 1: a beach spending a cocktail. But what is this drive 809 00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:39,320 Speaker 1: that Jamie, You've probably seen it more from the outside 810 00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:42,239 Speaker 1: and the inside than KG has. What is this drive? 811 00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:47,959 Speaker 1: Is this a trend among the current day professional athlete? 812 00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:50,520 Speaker 1: And yeah, I think Kevin can absolutely speak more to 813 00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:52,480 Speaker 1: this than I can. I would just say that I 814 00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:55,120 Speaker 1: think it's athletes are more than an athlete, and that's 815 00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:58,919 Speaker 1: something Lebron has always said too. But there's so many 816 00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:01,600 Speaker 1: layers and I things that that's what's exciting of an 817 00:43:01,600 --> 00:43:03,520 Speaker 1: athlete retire. They have the whole life ahead of that. 818 00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:06,120 Speaker 1: Athletes are retiring at an age we're most executives. They're 819 00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:09,520 Speaker 1: just getting to their next level and there's so much 820 00:43:09,880 --> 00:43:13,000 Speaker 1: and that's what's so exciting about having opportunity in business 821 00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:16,200 Speaker 1: and being creative and taking you know, people like having 822 00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:18,640 Speaker 1: that have been driven their whole lives and our leaders 823 00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:21,520 Speaker 1: and know how to be teammates are the best type 824 00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:25,279 Speaker 1: of business people um and have passion and perspective that 825 00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:28,160 Speaker 1: isn't in other businesses. I think that's what athletes are 826 00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:30,360 Speaker 1: seeing and they're seeing opportunity if there's a lot of 827 00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:33,480 Speaker 1: people investing right now, and I think to me, it's 828 00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:38,880 Speaker 1: really exciting. Only that's to piggyback that athletes have other 829 00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:42,760 Speaker 1: other passions too, that they want to actually explore. Athletes 830 00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:46,840 Speaker 1: have usually the people you just named have a circle 831 00:43:46,880 --> 00:43:52,360 Speaker 1: of for a team of people that not just accumulate 832 00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,719 Speaker 1: a bunch of interests, but a bunch of parallels in 833 00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:58,879 Speaker 1: which fit some of those passions and some of those 834 00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,399 Speaker 1: other interests. So other think it's I think you see 835 00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:05,080 Speaker 1: athletes starting to grow outside of kind of the category 836 00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:08,759 Speaker 1: of being an athlete, and those new invent those new 837 00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:12,160 Speaker 1: endeavors and those new partnerships. Are even more excited to 838 00:44:12,200 --> 00:44:15,399 Speaker 1: see uh, to see lebron in movies and see how 839 00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:21,240 Speaker 1: he's dominating scripted and how he's in um uh documentaries, 840 00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:24,600 Speaker 1: how he's just in content. You know, you're really seeing 841 00:44:25,640 --> 00:44:28,080 Speaker 1: the storytelling tells a lot about the person is telling 842 00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:32,160 Speaker 1: the story. So I find that very interesting. And us 843 00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:36,600 Speaker 1: think athletes are just evolving, if yeah, If anything, they're 844 00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:40,080 Speaker 1: evolving and evolving to these other things that in the 845 00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:42,399 Speaker 1: beginning that we're not used to. So I look forward 846 00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:44,760 Speaker 1: to some of these new endeavors too. What's a passion 847 00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:48,080 Speaker 1: that we're going to see you dabble in later on 848 00:44:48,239 --> 00:44:50,440 Speaker 1: in one of your on screen roles that were the 849 00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:55,360 Speaker 1: story gravity that Kevin um betting, I'm not a better. 850 00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:59,440 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna take our own. Um, I'm gonna take 851 00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:02,839 Speaker 1: our own university, and I'm gonna go through the one 852 00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:06,400 Speaker 1: to or however mini steps to graduate the game the 853 00:45:06,440 --> 00:45:11,000 Speaker 1: Game of Society's uh um University of of of Learning 854 00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:13,080 Speaker 1: one on one betting. I'm not a I'm not an 855 00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:15,320 Speaker 1: avid bettor. You know, I'm one of those guys who 856 00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:16,960 Speaker 1: I know how much I'm gonna spend when I go 857 00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,680 Speaker 1: into a casino and if I'm with friends, I'm not 858 00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:22,239 Speaker 1: trying to show off. I know my budget stuff like that. 859 00:45:22,280 --> 00:45:26,640 Speaker 1: Like I'm a real conservative person like that. Um. Yeah, 860 00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:29,279 Speaker 1: So if I was gonna play a part in the 861 00:45:29,360 --> 00:45:31,920 Speaker 1: future movie, it would be something of a handicapped or 862 00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:33,439 Speaker 1: or you know what I'm saying, something like that, that'd 863 00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:38,000 Speaker 1: be interesting. I have multiple interests and right now, um, 864 00:45:38,160 --> 00:45:41,600 Speaker 1: this Game of Society and bettering myself in this is 865 00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:45,400 Speaker 1: one of them. Very on brand guys. Thank you so 866 00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:47,719 Speaker 1: much for joining us. What a great conversation We've been 867 00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:49,960 Speaker 1: speaking with NBA Hall of Famer the one and only 868 00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:53,640 Speaker 1: Kevin Garnett and Gaming Society founder Jamie Messer. You might 869 00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:55,319 Speaker 1: know her as well as the co founder of the 870 00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:59,160 Speaker 1: Player's Tribune. Thank you so much again for joining us 871 00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,680 Speaker 1: one big. It feels better to be than the one, 872 00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:04,640 Speaker 1: than number five. I'll wear a number because of Mike. 873 00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:06,239 Speaker 1: We have a chance to go for three in a row. 874 00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:08,239 Speaker 1: Good numbers of a good time. When I first started 875 00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:10,840 Speaker 1: wearing the number, how we just have them? Proud Bloomberg 876 00:46:11,040 --> 00:46:15,840 Speaker 1: Business of Sports, the Number of the Week. All right, gang, 877 00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:20,640 Speaker 1: you know what, Scarlett, Welcome to the Number of the Week. 878 00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:24,439 Speaker 1: I'm frightened for what this will bring, and you should be, 879 00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:28,040 Speaker 1: because Lynch always gets this thing. I don't know how 880 00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:29,839 Speaker 1: he does it, and that's why I don't play poker 881 00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:32,680 Speaker 1: with the guy. He reads me like a book. But 882 00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:36,799 Speaker 1: and what we do this a little bit like the 883 00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:40,000 Speaker 1: price is right, then sometimes we don't because you know, 884 00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:45,120 Speaker 1: you can be whoever gets it closer wins. Alright, okay, 885 00:46:45,200 --> 00:46:52,920 Speaker 1: and this one is a pretty simple one that means anyway, 886 00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:58,880 Speaker 1: you'll get it. After ten seconds, we're gonna start with Scarlett. 887 00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:03,160 Speaker 1: And here's the thing, um Draft Kings. They agreed to 888 00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:09,319 Speaker 1: buy Golden Nugget online gaming. Uh but days before that, 889 00:47:10,440 --> 00:47:13,320 Speaker 1: and we're talking about, by the way, sports betting and 890 00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:18,160 Speaker 1: how it's going through big business. Bar Stool sports backer 891 00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:22,120 Speaker 1: Penn National Gaming agreed to buy Score Media and Gaming 892 00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:31,640 Speaker 1: for about what Scarlett, Um, I'm gonna say million dollars. Okay, Linchi, 893 00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:36,719 Speaker 1: you're playing for a toaster and a washerton dryer. I 894 00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:44,400 Speaker 1: like the game show host boys. I have pen National 895 00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:48,720 Speaker 1: Gaming stock. I know I saw the story two billion. Well, 896 00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:56,839 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Scarlett, it's it's it's one point seventy four 897 00:47:56,880 --> 00:48:01,640 Speaker 1: billion dollars. Now, if you're playing prices right rules, Lynch, 898 00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:05,000 Speaker 1: you went over. But if we're playing closest to Lynch, 899 00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:09,680 Speaker 1: there for sure Lynchie is there. So technically, Sarah, you 900 00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:13,000 Speaker 1: do come up on stage and you play Plinko. But 901 00:48:14,040 --> 00:48:17,960 Speaker 1: I'm ashamed. I feel ashamed. No, don't be don't be ashamed. 902 00:48:18,000 --> 00:48:21,360 Speaker 1: Doesn't leave many many a person has fallen to this, 903 00:48:21,560 --> 00:48:23,600 Speaker 1: uh this quiz every week, the number of the week. 904 00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:26,799 Speaker 1: It's nothing to be ashamed of. It's a pretty big 905 00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:30,719 Speaker 1: amount to be to be off by, if it makes 906 00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:32,880 Speaker 1: you feel any better. They flipped the pages on me 907 00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:36,319 Speaker 1: one week and they had me do the guessing part 908 00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:39,720 Speaker 1: of it, and I needed therapy for like about two weeks. 909 00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:42,799 Speaker 1: I didn't even come close. I've put it out of 910 00:48:42,840 --> 00:48:45,239 Speaker 1: my mind. What's that old thing in the movies I 911 00:48:45,320 --> 00:48:47,640 Speaker 1: put in the box through it in an ocean, right, 912 00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:50,520 Speaker 1: and we will never talk about that moment. Jason Kelly 913 00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:55,120 Speaker 1: is listening to this and laughing, laughing out loud. You've 914 00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:57,640 Speaker 1: been listening to Bloomberg Business of Sports. We are here 915 00:48:57,680 --> 00:48:59,959 Speaker 1: every week at the same time. Plus we're online where 916 00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,920 Speaker 1: where you get your podcasts. You can catch those on Monday's, 917 00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:07,160 Speaker 1: Wednesdays and Thursdays. I'm Scarlet Foo on Twitter at Scarlett Foo, 918 00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:10,400 Speaker 1: and I'm Mike Lynch and Frankly Scarlett will have you 919 00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:12,879 Speaker 1: every week for number of the week because you come 920 00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:17,440 Speaker 1: out looking so much better. You can find me at 921 00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:21,120 Speaker 1: Lynch w CBB. I swear when you started, Frankly Scarlett, 922 00:49:21,160 --> 00:49:26,240 Speaker 1: I thought there was somewhere else. No, no Twitter, Blachael 923 00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:29,560 Speaker 1: far and Big far as Sports. Scarlet, you are one 924 00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:32,759 Speaker 1: of the best business reporters in the business. Just don't 925 00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:35,680 Speaker 1: ask me to guess numbers. Yeah, don't go on prices, right, Yeah, 926 00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:39,760 Speaker 1: you're listening to Bloomberg Business of Sports from Bloomberg Radio 927 00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:41,080 Speaker 1: around the world.