1 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:09,559 Speaker 1: He had, like Steve Smith swagger for a plutter. That 2 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:11,879 Speaker 1: was the plan heading into the season, and the plan 3 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:15,720 Speaker 1: hasn't worked out. You've been yelling for like three straight 4 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:30,680 Speaker 1: shoot me yelling? Can you tell Welcome to the lounge. 5 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: I am Ryan Mink and I'm Garrett Downing, And now 6 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 1: we have the difficult task of doing the podcast after 7 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:39,559 Speaker 1: a loss, first time. We're feeling first time we have 8 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:42,239 Speaker 1: to do that this season. So we're gonna try to 9 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:44,240 Speaker 1: keep you guys. I don't know if you want to 10 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 1: say spirits uplifted, but we're gonna try to keep the 11 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: loss from dragging us down too much better because we're 12 00:00:50,760 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: pretty low right now. It's been a dark Monday, as 13 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. We gotta get back to waiting. 14 00:00:55,880 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 1: It is a lot more fun around here, it is. 15 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 1: And we're not gonna have vic recake this week, which, 16 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: as we know, huge loss. It's a huge loss around here, 17 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:07,399 Speaker 1: so we're gonna try to get by um do our best, 18 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:09,240 Speaker 1: and at the same time, we're gonna try to dive 19 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 1: into some of the big topics and issues that we 20 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 1: saw from that game against Oakland, first loss of the season. 21 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:15,960 Speaker 1: But before we do that, as we've mentioned in every 22 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:17,640 Speaker 1: podcast we want to hear from you guys and our 23 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 1: email here here is the lounge at Ravens dot NFL 24 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 1: dot net. We've had a ton of emails and we 25 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 1: try to read at least one every show. And we 26 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 1: have another international email, right and goodness gracious, I love it. 27 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: The international audience must be huge and podcasting, I guess 28 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 1: because we have. This one is from Nicholas in Denmark. 29 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: Nice from Europe. Yeah, Nicholas says, hey, guys, I just 30 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 1: want to start this email all app by saying you 31 00:01:41,360 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: have a really good podcast and I'm listening to it 32 00:01:43,680 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: well going to and from university. I've enjoyed getting an 33 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: inside of perspective, and I'm what do you not read Denmark? 34 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 1: Come on, yeah, Denmarkian, I've enjoyed getting an inside perspective. 35 00:01:55,120 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: I'm both you guys and the players. Nice job, guys, 36 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: keep up the good work. He list a couple of questions. 37 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 1: Here's one of the questions, which of the next few 38 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: weeks do you see as the most challenging game? Like that? 39 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:08,239 Speaker 1: First of all, is it Danish? Is then market in? 40 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:14,520 Speaker 1: Were really making ourselves look smarter here? Yeah, all right? 41 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:16,679 Speaker 1: The question was, which game coming up is going to 42 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:20,280 Speaker 1: be the most challenging. Yeah, Steelers telling you what? Watching 43 00:02:20,280 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 1: that Steeler Steelers Week eight, Yeah, I know, I that was. 44 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:26,960 Speaker 1: They're pretty good. I know. I don't know how they 45 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 1: lost so bad to Philly, but man, they look for real, 46 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 1: they look really good. Well, let's hope the wheels come 47 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 1: back off the bus. Whales came off the bus. They 48 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: screwed them back on. They didn't come back off just 49 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:38,959 Speaker 1: in time for that week eate game. All right, so 50 00:02:39,520 --> 00:02:41,360 Speaker 1: before we pick holes in everybody else, that's go ahead 51 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: and pick holes on our own team. Ryan Gosh, all right, well, 52 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: what are you gonna ask me? Well, what do you 53 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 1: think is wrong with the offense? That's that's that's a 54 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 1: good starting point, uh to me, the the offense. It 55 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: is concerning to me that through four weeks they have 56 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:02,959 Speaker 1: not found their identity and they have not found consistency. 57 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: And I think we all kind of including myself, gave 58 00:03:06,080 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 1: him a little bit of a pass because you said, look, 59 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 1: on paper, this offense has more talent than I think 60 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:16,399 Speaker 1: it's it's had and quite sometimes ever since I've been here, 61 00:03:16,480 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 1: I came and arriving two thousand nine, Uh, maybe since 62 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:23,639 Speaker 1: the Vinny t days, they have more weapons on this 63 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 1: offense on paper. Uh, but we all knew that some 64 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:30,239 Speaker 1: of them were coming off injury. Dennis pit Us, Steve Smith, 65 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:33,679 Speaker 1: Joe Flacco coming off injury, Brashad Perryman. There is a 66 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:36,280 Speaker 1: lot of new things that need to get worked out. Well, 67 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: you're through four weeks now, through a quarter of the season, 68 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: and it hasn't been worked out, and that to me 69 00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: is alarming because the season is gonna be slip away 70 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 1: here pretty soon if it doesn't get fixed. You said 71 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:53,440 Speaker 1: that they haven't really found out what their identity is. 72 00:03:53,880 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 1: I think they kind of have. Offense. Yeah, I think 73 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: they kind of have found out what the identity is, 74 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 1: and I just don't think that we like the answer is, 75 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 1: you know, and I think it's I think there's still 76 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:05,080 Speaker 1: certain go ahead. I think it's gonna be a quick 77 00:04:05,120 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: strike offense in terms of short passing attack. That's one 78 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:10,600 Speaker 1: thing that they've done consistently throughout the preseason. We talked 79 00:04:10,600 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 1: about it in training camp. They want to be a 80 00:04:12,320 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 1: team that gets the ball out of the out of 81 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: Joe Flacco's hands quickly. I think they're going to continue 82 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:20,359 Speaker 1: to do that. Um, I think that, Yeah, they're definitely 83 00:04:20,360 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 1: getting the ball out quick. I mean, if you look 84 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: at these attempts, you know they're not attempting um, they're 85 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 1: not throwing the ball downfield for big games all the time. 86 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 1: Joe Flacco talked about that they're doing a lot of 87 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:33,839 Speaker 1: the shorter stuff. I mean the ton of screen passes. 88 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:36,160 Speaker 1: You know, when you throw the ball fifty two times 89 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: and you only get three hundred yards, that's an indication 90 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:41,440 Speaker 1: that you're not picking up big chunk plays. So that's 91 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:43,200 Speaker 1: I agree with that, but I don't know that that 92 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 1: necessarily says that they're getting the ball out fast. I 93 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 1: also see the pressure getting plenty of time to get 94 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:51,159 Speaker 1: to Joe Flacco. Well, they're not getting many yards on 95 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: the completions. I agree with they're not hitting big ones, 96 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:55,279 Speaker 1: but I'm not sure that they're getting it out in 97 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 1: a fast, timely manner. How many times the Flacco gets sacked? 98 00:04:58,120 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: How many times did he get hit? He got hit 99 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 1: six times, that's not that many. It's not a ton 100 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 1: but a lot of pressure in his face. Yeah, he 101 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:05,920 Speaker 1: did have a lot of pressure in his face, but 102 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:09,160 Speaker 1: he got the ball out quickly to avoid more sacks, 103 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:12,159 Speaker 1: more pressure I think ran from his life from about 104 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: three more secks and so so they're definitely all quicker. 105 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:19,440 Speaker 1: No question in my mind, has there been a concerted 106 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:22,000 Speaker 1: effort take the ball at quick he's talking, Yes, I agree, 107 00:05:22,040 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 1: there's been a concerted effort to do it. I don't 108 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 1: think that they've succeeded with that quick strike offense that 109 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: they wanted to go into the season with, and that's 110 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:30,200 Speaker 1: why I do not think that that will be their 111 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:33,320 Speaker 1: identity moving forward. I think that they that was the 112 00:05:33,400 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 1: plan heading into the season, and the plan hasn't worked out. 113 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 1: The passing offense has not come to fruition, and I 114 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:41,039 Speaker 1: think that that's why I say they're searching for that 115 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 1: that identity. They got to find something that works. I 116 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: don't think that you can say, yeah, we found it, 117 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:47,880 Speaker 1: we know what we are when when it's not working, 118 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:51,160 Speaker 1: you know they're going to change it. Well, so, how 119 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: much of it is on Joe Flacco? Then, to me, 120 00:05:54,640 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: I think that, uh, he he has a share in 121 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:01,599 Speaker 1: this for sure. I mean, he has the six best 122 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: quarterback rating in the NFL. Is not good for Joe Flacco. 123 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:10,240 Speaker 1: He is he is paid and expected to do better 124 00:06:10,279 --> 00:06:13,720 Speaker 1: than that. And there yes, the pressure got to him. 125 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:16,479 Speaker 1: The left side of the offensive line, James Hurst and 126 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:20,240 Speaker 1: Ryan Jensen did not have step spectacular games against the 127 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:22,440 Speaker 1: Oakland pass rush. I think heading into the game, we 128 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: all knew that if James Hurst was out there starting, 129 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 1: it was gonna be tough. You're facing Clear Clear MC 130 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 1: and Bruce Servan, who are really good edge rushers. So 131 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: I'm like, people are tweeting during the game, you know, 132 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,320 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, get hurt out of here. Did you 133 00:06:35,360 --> 00:06:37,679 Speaker 1: think that he was gonna lock him up the entire game? 134 00:06:38,240 --> 00:06:40,600 Speaker 1: I mean, he's a backup left tackle against one of 135 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 1: the best NFL defenders. What do you think is gonna happen? 136 00:06:44,920 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 1: I don't disagree, right so like, But with that said, 137 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 1: my own two eyes watching that game tell me that 138 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: Joe Flacco should have completed more passes. You can't throw 139 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 1: it at Dennis pit his feet on third and ten 140 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:01,719 Speaker 1: with the game on the line. There wasn't pressure, didn't 141 00:07:01,760 --> 00:07:05,200 Speaker 1: cause that. That's a misthrow. There were other misthrowers in 142 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 1: the red zone where the Ravens had chances to score touchdowns. 143 00:07:09,320 --> 00:07:12,600 Speaker 1: He missed. He's missing too many throws. You've been yelling 144 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 1: for like three straight yelling. Can you tell it's just 145 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: been about I've got the timer here. I think we're 146 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: close to three minutes of yelling consistently. Well, yeah, I 147 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: think I think Flacco definitely shoulder some of the blame here. Um, 148 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 1: you know, to me, I want to go back to 149 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: the deep passing game versus the short passing game, because 150 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 1: I think that's a lot of where this is getting 151 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:38,040 Speaker 1: hung up. And Flacco brought up the fact after the game. 152 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 1: You know, we're not taking many shots down field. We're 153 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:43,280 Speaker 1: not hitting those chunk plays, and that leads to you know, 154 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 1: that leads to a lot of problems because then you 155 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: have to have longer drives, you have to be more methodical, 156 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: you have less room for air because you're not a 157 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: quick strike offense. Though you looked into the numbers thing, Well, 158 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:57,239 Speaker 1: it kind of depends on what you define. It's funny 159 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:00,160 Speaker 1: if if you want you define stats passed, need to 160 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 1: find a big play as yeah, in long passes. So 161 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 1: stats pass has him as at attempting the second most 162 00:08:07,200 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: deep passes that's twenty one yards are longer. But at 163 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 1: the same time, if you look at the percentage, he's 164 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: also attempted a lot of passes just in general, he's 165 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: throwing the ball a lot. You know, he threw the 166 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 1: ball fifty two times. So then if you break it 167 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 1: down even further and say what percentage of his passes 168 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: are deep passes. I think the number was ten percent 169 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: and that put him near the bottom of the NFL. 170 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: So if you look at it, you know, it kind 171 00:08:27,080 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: of depends how statistics. Yes, statistics can be misleading depending 172 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:33,640 Speaker 1: on how you want to look at him. Um, but 173 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 1: to me, I looked at it and we all said 174 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 1: coming into the season, when you have Mike Walls, you 175 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:40,560 Speaker 1: have Perriman, and you have Steve Smith, even though he's 176 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 1: not necessarily a big deep threat, but he's a playmaker. 177 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 1: We saw that on Sunday that you expected to see 178 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: more big plays and we haven't seen a ton of that. 179 00:08:49,040 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 1: We saw a Week one with Wallace in the sixty 180 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:52,959 Speaker 1: six yard or that was the story coming out of 181 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 1: Week one was, Hey, the Ravens big play offenses coming 182 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 1: to Fruition. We're gonna be seeing this all year long. 183 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 1: They can hit the quick straight because he hit Wallacey 184 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:04,480 Speaker 1: at Perriman down the sideline making that spectacular catch, and 185 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: you know you said, here it comes and then goes 186 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 1: so I don't. I mean, I understand that Perryman is playing, 187 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: just played his fourth NFL game, but you also have 188 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: to give him some opportunities if he's ever going to 189 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,120 Speaker 1: mature into a player that you want to use even 190 00:09:23,120 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 1: down the road. I mean, if if he's not getting shots, 191 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:27,920 Speaker 1: and part of it, part of it could be his 192 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 1: own problem, because he's had two main drops so far. 193 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: But if you're not giving him opportunities to make big plays, 194 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:35,199 Speaker 1: how do you ever expect him to make those plays? 195 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 1: I know Perriman is like a mystery to me and 196 00:09:38,400 --> 00:09:42,400 Speaker 1: that I want to see him get some more opportunities 197 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 1: down the field. You know, there was that one play 198 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 1: in Week one, but they and then there was the 199 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 1: long they attempted a long pass. It wasn't in Cleveland, 200 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 1: I think, yeah, it wasn't Cleveland. Right long passed down 201 00:09:51,679 --> 00:09:53,440 Speaker 1: the side and it got picked off in the end 202 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 1: zone Perraman and like. But beyond that, they haven't really 203 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:01,679 Speaker 1: taken any shots at him, and he's still playing a lot. 204 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 1: You know, people are asking why isn't he playing much? 205 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 1: You know, he got over thirty snaps and Sunday's game 206 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 1: against Oakland, so he's on the field, but he just 207 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 1: hasn't been. They haven't been looking at him down the field, 208 00:10:12,200 --> 00:10:14,080 Speaker 1: and I don't know the answer for why that is. 209 00:10:14,120 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 1: I'd like to see a little bit more of that. Well. 210 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 1: I would also like to see Joe improve his deep throwing. 211 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: I mean, I think we all know that Joe has 212 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: a big arm. Joe's got a great arm, one of 213 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:26,480 Speaker 1: the best strongest arms in the NFL. But having a 214 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:31,040 Speaker 1: big arm doesn't necessarily make you a great deep ball thrower. 215 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:33,679 Speaker 1: And I would like to see Joe improve on those balls. 216 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 1: He said with the Perryman interception in Anza, and that 217 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 1: was just a bad throw on my part. He's got 218 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: to lead his receivers more inside, give them a better 219 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 1: chance to make a play on the ball. I'm seeing 220 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 1: too many fifty fifty balls go up on these on 221 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 1: these long balls, too many heaves. And I'm sorry, but 222 00:10:49,400 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: the Ravens don't have a Calvin Johnson, a Dez Bryant. 223 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 1: Some of those guys who an aushon Jeffrey who go 224 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:59,559 Speaker 1: up and win fifty fifty balls. That's not who Mike 225 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: Walls is. That's not hoo Brashod Perriman is. They will 226 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:04,679 Speaker 1: beat you with their speed, and when they get a 227 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 1: step on a guy, they have to be led inside 228 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 1: so their speed can continue to take them away from 229 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 1: the defender. Yeah, I think we're on different pages on 230 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:13,360 Speaker 1: this one. I still think that Joe there was a 231 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 1: good deep ball he did it. You pointed out a 232 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 1: bad one. You could point out the good one that 233 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:19,600 Speaker 1: he threw to Michael. This one was a good, great throw. 234 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 1: That's what I want to see more of deep plays 235 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:24,560 Speaker 1: down the middle of the field. I'm tired of hitting 236 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:27,880 Speaker 1: trying to pick on the edges on the sideline constantly. 237 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 1: Let's move on to the defense. Do you are you 238 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:36,320 Speaker 1: celebrating after the Ravens performance against the number two ranked 239 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 1: offense in the NFL? Or are you concerned about the 240 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:42,679 Speaker 1: twenty eight points they gave up, held car under two 241 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 1: hundred passing yards, shut down the running game? How many 242 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: total yards was it? There's two hundred sixty something, two 243 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:52,679 Speaker 1: hundred sixties some total yards for the Raiders. Concerned or 244 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 1: worried about the defense? I did not or not happy? Yeah, 245 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:58,560 Speaker 1: I don't come out of that feeling really good. I 246 00:11:58,600 --> 00:12:01,640 Speaker 1: just don't. I think they gave up twenty eight points 247 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 1: at the end of the day. It doesn't matter how 248 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 1: many yards you give up, well matters just how many 249 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:06,440 Speaker 1: points you give up. And I know they got put 250 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 1: in some really bad situations. When you start on your 251 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 1: six yard line, that's almost an impossible situation. But you 252 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:15,280 Speaker 1: they have come up with good goal line stops before 253 00:12:15,400 --> 00:12:16,840 Speaker 1: and those are the kinds of things that you need. 254 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:19,679 Speaker 1: And then really what is the biggest concern to me 255 00:12:20,160 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 1: is once the offense gets those two touchdowns, it takes 256 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:25,320 Speaker 1: the lead late in the fourth quarter, and the defense 257 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 1: has been really strong all day long, all of a 258 00:12:27,480 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 1: sudden they just drive right down the field on March 259 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:32,440 Speaker 1: and six places and get in the end zone. So, yeah, 260 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:33,960 Speaker 1: you can talk about all we only gave up two 261 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 1: d sixty yards, but when the game is on the 262 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 1: line at the end of the day, I go to 263 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:39,840 Speaker 1: what C. J. Mosley said where he said, we feel 264 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 1: like we gave up the game. I kind of tend 265 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 1: to agree with that. As much as there were all 266 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 1: the problems with the offense and um, we can pinpoint 267 00:12:46,840 --> 00:12:49,080 Speaker 1: different things that went wrong in that game, the defense 268 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:51,280 Speaker 1: had a chance to win it in that fourth quarter 269 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:52,960 Speaker 1: if they can get Oakland off the field and they 270 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 1: couldn't do it. To me, it's a red zerain defense issue. 271 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 1: The Ravens gave up too many touchdowns. Like you're saying 272 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 1: four touchdown passes for Derek Carr is not good enough. 273 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 1: I don't expect the red zone defense to continue to 274 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 1: play that way. I think under d m P's uh, 275 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 1: year after year, the Ravens have had a very good 276 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 1: registered defense. Uh. And you know, the the criticism of 277 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:19,360 Speaker 1: the Ravens defense the past several years, it feels like, 278 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:21,960 Speaker 1: is they give up too many yards, but then they 279 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 1: stuff them in the red zone and they get field goals. Well, 280 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:28,320 Speaker 1: now this year they're dominating people really in terms of yards. 281 00:13:28,320 --> 00:13:30,680 Speaker 1: Their number one in the NFL. Now they went up 282 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:35,199 Speaker 1: the rankings after facing the second best offense in the league. Uh. 283 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 1: But now you know they're giving up too many touchdowns. 284 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 1: So but to me, I think that is something that 285 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 1: will get fixed. Uh. Sharise Wright needs to play better, 286 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:45,559 Speaker 1: and he keeps letting guys get behind him in the 287 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 1: end zone and that can't happen. Um. But I think 288 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 1: that the Ravens will fix that. So I tend to 289 00:13:51,600 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 1: disagree with you on this. I feel a little bit. 290 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 1: I think that the defense proved itself. I think that 291 00:13:56,920 --> 00:14:00,280 Speaker 1: they proved themselves against the Raiders that they can still 292 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 1: shut down what is a very talented offense. Down shut 293 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:08,680 Speaker 1: down down might be strong. I think that they can. 294 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:11,240 Speaker 1: They can do a pretty darn good job. Crabtree beat him. 295 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 1: Marie Cooper didn't do anything. Their run game was second 296 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:16,720 Speaker 1: best in the NFL. He didn't have to their second 297 00:14:16,760 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 1: There's run game was the second best in the NFL. 298 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 1: Didn't do anything. Man, I'll tell you what if shutting 299 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 1: a team down is allowing twenty eight points, I can't 300 00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 1: wait to see what a bad day looks like. Dude. 301 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 1: They started one drive on the six. Yeah, again, so 302 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 1: what does a bad day look like if you shut 303 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 1: him down for twenty eight points? Man, we guys, we 304 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 1: shut him down today. Whoa one drive just starting the six? 305 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 1: And one started like the thirties something after the flaccost 306 00:14:41,320 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 1: sack strip. So really the Raiders. Yes, the final drive 307 00:14:45,880 --> 00:14:48,160 Speaker 1: to win the game was a bad look. And I 308 00:14:48,200 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 1: don't know what happened on that drive. I'll be curious 309 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 1: to ask what where was the breakdown and coverage? I 310 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 1: mean on the final touchdown pass. Kendrick Lewis is on 311 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:58,720 Speaker 1: the field instead of Ledarious Web. That didn't help Kendrick. 312 00:14:59,120 --> 00:15:01,640 Speaker 1: Shari's got beat in the double move, and then Kendrick 313 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 1: couldn't get over there in time when you watch it back. 314 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 1: But I don't know outside of that exactly what the 315 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 1: problem was on that on that drive, but it's two 316 00:15:10,640 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 1: bad drives for the defense really and then poor red 317 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 1: zone defense the rest of the time. So definitely not 318 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:19,080 Speaker 1: a shutdown. But that's just one thing I think we 319 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 1: can agree on is that the probably I would say 320 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 1: the highlight of the game was Oakland's punter. That was 321 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: definitely the most entertaining part of the first half of Otherwise, 322 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 1: flag Frenzy, go ahead and describe him, because if people 323 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:37,800 Speaker 1: missed this dude, this guy was He had like Steve 324 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 1: Smith swagger for a punter. I mean, after he so 325 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: he hits the point, his first point, which was a 326 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 1: good point, and then he does the squirrel dance at 327 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 1: midfield and trots off after that. I watched every single point. 328 00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 1: I made sure, you know, look up from my tweeting, 329 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 1: look up from the game story I was writing to 330 00:15:56,440 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 1: watch the punters. You came off the field, and every 331 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 1: time I'm Tony, he comes off He's like, like, I'm 332 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 1: staying up right now for the viewers that he's just cheering, 333 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 1: getting the Raiders hands behind the bench. He's taking off 334 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 1: the helmet, the swag like he was dabbing on people. Yeah, 335 00:16:11,080 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 1: that's right. The second one, that's right, he's HiT's multiple dabs. 336 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:16,760 Speaker 1: I've never seen such a thing. I want to ask 337 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 1: Sam Cook when he thought about that. He really Sam style? Yeah, 338 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 1: it's not Sam style. Tucker is known for his dancing 339 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: after big kicks, but this guy's dancing. I'm not saying 340 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:30,240 Speaker 1: it was better than Tuckers, but it was more ridiculous 341 00:16:30,280 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 1: than Tuckers. I would say, yeah, when you're when you're 342 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 1: doing the situation, when you're doing the Ray Lewis dance 343 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 1: after a nice punt in the first quarter, that's a 344 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 1: little difference. I hit the game winning kick, I wouldn't 345 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:44,800 Speaker 1: put those on par I thought you were talking about 346 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 1: the dance itself. All right, So let's let's roll forward 347 00:16:48,040 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 1: to the uh the running game. We're looking at different 348 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:51,880 Speaker 1: aspects here, because that's one thing they did look good 349 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 1: is the running game. Terrence West, it made a change. 350 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 1: He gets to start over hunter yards touchdown. Running games fixed, right, no, 351 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I'm um. It was great, good to see. 352 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:07,439 Speaker 1: I think Terence West showed me something. But the Ravens 353 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 1: are facing the twenty nine best run defense in the NFL. Uh, 354 00:17:11,400 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna have to see it over a multi 355 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:17,360 Speaker 1: game span or it gets a really good run defense 356 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:19,400 Speaker 1: to buy in. It's kind of like why I'm really 357 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 1: concerned about the passing offense. The raiders past defense was 358 00:17:22,880 --> 00:17:25,520 Speaker 1: thirty second in the NFL, and the Ravens still couldn't 359 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:28,239 Speaker 1: find consistency in the passing games, So that's concerning. One 360 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 1: thing I'm curious about is they made a change last 361 00:17:30,520 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 1: week to go with Terence West at the running games 362 00:17:33,000 --> 00:17:35,399 Speaker 1: or the running back spot. So now the question to 363 00:17:35,440 --> 00:17:37,679 Speaker 1: me is what change happens this week? Is there is 364 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: a change, you know after a loss. The curious thing 365 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:42,719 Speaker 1: is gonna be whether Kenneth Dixon shares a role with him, 366 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 1: because I think the Ravens really light Kenneth Dixon a 367 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:48,640 Speaker 1: lot but and want to give him a chance. But 368 00:17:48,840 --> 00:17:50,640 Speaker 1: Terence West, as he said post game, you know, I'm 369 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:53,160 Speaker 1: not a I'm not a shared guy that splits carp. 370 00:17:53,480 --> 00:17:55,800 Speaker 1: I'm not a rotational back. I'm not a rotational back, 371 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:59,520 Speaker 1: So you know, you gotta go with what Terence West says, right, Yeah, Well, 372 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 1: and to be honest, he looked good. I thought that 373 00:18:02,680 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 1: he did. He's been the best back to me throughout 374 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 1: the entire season, including I think I predicted this on 375 00:18:08,720 --> 00:18:10,880 Speaker 1: mail bag. I said, justin Forcett would starting to see 376 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 1: begin the season as a starter, but I don't think 377 00:18:13,320 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 1: that he's going to keep it for the entire season, 378 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 1: that Terence West will be the guy. And for me 379 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:19,880 Speaker 1: right now, I kind of ride Terrence West and see 380 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 1: if he can keep up what he's done. The other 381 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:23,879 Speaker 1: change that I would be curious see if it happens 382 00:18:23,920 --> 00:18:26,040 Speaker 1: is in the secondary. You know, Sharis writ has given 383 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:29,719 Speaker 1: up five touchdowns through the first four games after that 384 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:31,600 Speaker 1: first game, really and it's in the last three games 385 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 1: because he was lights out the first game and then 386 00:18:33,640 --> 00:18:36,119 Speaker 1: it's been a struggle for him the last three games. 387 00:18:36,240 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 1: Podcast Bump hasn't worked. Podcast Bump hasn't gone quite as planned. 388 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:47,880 Speaker 1: Podcast dump Oh, and I like serious a lot. My question, 389 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 1: I'd be curious to see if they give Will Davis 390 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:53,320 Speaker 1: a shot. He's been inactive of first four games. You know, 391 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 1: I'm a big Will Davis fan and I can they 392 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:58,400 Speaker 1: have options. You can also try Drab Powers out there. Now. 393 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:01,000 Speaker 1: They signed them to be a nickel high, but Tavon 394 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:03,080 Speaker 1: Young has played very well in that nickel role. And 395 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 1: I don't think that you want to move a rookie, 396 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 1: especially one that's five ft ten or whatever. Tavan is 397 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 1: out to the outside. Drab Powers has done it before. 398 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 1: You can give him a shot out there. He played 399 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 1: his first game last week. He was enacted the first 400 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 1: three games. He made his debut against Oakland, and I 401 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:19,400 Speaker 1: thought he was good. I mean, it didn't really notice 402 00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:21,399 Speaker 1: him much, which is a good thing for a corner 403 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 1: um didn't play Ton. I wouldn't be surprised if it 404 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: was Sheldon Price. And Shelton Price also, you know he 405 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:30,800 Speaker 1: he was inactive last week because he had a little 406 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:33,399 Speaker 1: bit of an injury. So it would surprise me a 407 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 1: little bit of favor to give Sheldon. That would be interesting. 408 00:19:36,119 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 1: That would be interesting. All right, Let's let's roll it forward. 409 00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:41,640 Speaker 1: The story time here, one of our favorite segments, really 410 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:45,639 Speaker 1: our only segment on the podcast, and our storytime. We're 411 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:52,880 Speaker 1: gonna rewind back to two thousand twelve, Week fourteen, Week fourteen. Yeah, 412 00:19:52,920 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 1: we week fourteen in Washington and Uh Kirk Cousins. It 413 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:03,120 Speaker 1: was the birth of Captain kirk Uh. He comes in 414 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 1: after Helloda Nada Uh rips off one of r G 415 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:10,679 Speaker 1: three's legs on a tackle. Really, what's interesting about in 416 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: this game is it was such a turning point for 417 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:15,159 Speaker 1: so many things. It was a turning point for r 418 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 1: G three. He was never really the same after Heli 419 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 1: dealt him that knee injury. Kirk Cousins, it was his 420 00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:24,280 Speaker 1: first opportunity as a rookie. He comes in, beats the 421 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 1: Ravens in overtime, leads a comeback drive to and then 422 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:31,720 Speaker 1: two Wint conversion to tie the game. Then March didn't 423 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:33,399 Speaker 1: really march him, but got enough yards to put him 424 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:35,239 Speaker 1: in field goal arrange for the game winner. They won. 425 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 1: They won that game thirty in Washington, and and it 426 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 1: was a turning point for the Ravens because Cam Cameron 427 00:20:43,800 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 1: got fired the very next day after that loss. Because 428 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 1: it was a bad loss down in Washington. It was, 429 00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 1: But it was funny because at the time when people 430 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 1: heard that Cam Camera got fired, that was not the 431 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 1: worst offensive performance of the season by Andy Stretch. The 432 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:58,720 Speaker 1: imagination they put up twenty eight points. It was actually 433 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:00,879 Speaker 1: a fairly good offense to perform. I think we were 434 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:02,680 Speaker 1: talking about where are we talking about the run game 435 00:21:02,680 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 1: being not on track then, and like they ran the 436 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 1: ball finally pretty well that game. Yeah, a lot of 437 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 1: things kind of got worked out, but then they still 438 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 1: made the decision the next day fire cam and then 439 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 1: promote Jim call Wall to play caller or see then 440 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 1: we all know what happened after that, right. And the 441 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 1: other thing that's funny too, I remember being in the 442 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:18,879 Speaker 1: press box at the end of the game and a 443 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 1: number of the reporters were joking around basically saying like, Hey, 444 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna get to see Beyonce at the Super 445 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:26,160 Speaker 1: Bowl this year. I don't think the Ravens are gonna 446 00:21:26,160 --> 00:21:28,439 Speaker 1: make it. Like people were kind of spelling that as 447 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 1: the end of the Ravens that year and didn't. That 448 00:21:31,680 --> 00:21:33,480 Speaker 1: was not the case. So maybe if you're feeling a 449 00:21:33,480 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 1: little gloomy to start this week after the game against Oakland, 450 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:38,400 Speaker 1: keep in mind that in two thousand and tweld people thought. 451 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 1: There are many times people said this is the end 452 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:44,800 Speaker 1: of the Ravens. So and with that mind, let's roll 453 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 1: it forward to the Redskins They've won two straight games 454 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:50,320 Speaker 1: there now two and two on the season. How do 455 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:53,680 Speaker 1: you feel about this game? I feel like this is 456 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 1: a game that the Ravens should win. If you want 457 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:56,800 Speaker 1: to be a team, if you want to be a 458 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,439 Speaker 1: playoff team, you don't lose at home to the Raiders 459 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 1: and the Redskins. You just don't. I mean, that's just 460 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:02,879 Speaker 1: the fact of the matter. And sometimes I try to 461 00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 1: just make it simple and break it down on those terms. 462 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 1: But if the Ravens want to be the kind of 463 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: team that everyone around here expects and that they've talked 464 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 1: about where they want to go, then you don't lose 465 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:14,119 Speaker 1: these back to back games. And the Redskins, it's not 466 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,360 Speaker 1: like you have the Broncos coming into town. The Redskins 467 00:22:16,400 --> 00:22:19,160 Speaker 1: are a beatable team. They've had Kirk Cousins has turned 468 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,760 Speaker 1: the ball over at a number of times. Cleveland gave 469 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:24,920 Speaker 1: him a really good run last week. So the Redskins 470 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:27,879 Speaker 1: are a beatable team. And I think that the Ravens, 471 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:31,440 Speaker 1: coming off a tough loss, bad loss, a really disappointing game, 472 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,639 Speaker 1: I think they're gonna come out motivated and this is 473 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:37,400 Speaker 1: the game that the Ravens should and I expect they 474 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:39,399 Speaker 1: will win. This is dubs, and this is one that 475 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go back to my home in Silver Spring, 476 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:45,199 Speaker 1: Maryland just brag all day and all night. My neighbor 477 00:22:45,400 --> 00:22:48,920 Speaker 1: last night I started talking trash. He's like, oh, sorry, 478 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 1: I saw, I saw a tough game for you guys 479 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 1: through and one. I'm like, yeah, but you know one 480 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,120 Speaker 1: some games that we probably shouldn't have one earlier this year. 481 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:59,360 Speaker 1: So I guess the you know, cosmos is it's balancing out, 482 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:01,360 Speaker 1: you know, And he like, yeah, it could be worse 483 00:23:01,400 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 1: than three one, like three and two after this next week, 484 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,040 Speaker 1: he was like, he goes, is there already If I 485 00:23:07,080 --> 00:23:08,399 Speaker 1: talk like that, I mean, I know it's kind of 486 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:10,119 Speaker 1: your livelihood. Is it okay to make that joke? I 487 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 1: was like, yeah, do you trust me? It's fine, are 488 00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 1: you do? You look at the Ravens and the Redskins 489 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 1: the same way that you do the Oriels and the Nationals, 490 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 1: which is you root for whatever team wins that day. 491 00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:21,199 Speaker 1: You know, you don't really have a team that you 492 00:23:21,240 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 1: actually prefer to win. You just whoever wins, you jump 493 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 1: on the bandwag and you're like, I'm a Nats fan. 494 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 1: Then it win. Now the Orioles are in the play 495 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 1: they're both in the playoffs. I in baseball, yes, I 496 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:37,600 Speaker 1: root for both the Oriels and thens A L n 497 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 1: L teams. So, um, but you feel good about the game? 498 00:23:41,960 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 1: Do you feel good to good at the game? I 499 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:45,920 Speaker 1: think it's gonna be a dubs. So later this week 500 00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 1: we're gonna have Timmy Journagan stopped by the podcast. He's 501 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 1: a really interesting guy. I don't think people you know 502 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 1: know too much about Timmy just because he Um, you know, 503 00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:55,199 Speaker 1: you don't see him that much, but he's somebody that's 504 00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 1: kind of come out of the shell. And uh, I 505 00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:59,600 Speaker 1: really like talking to him. And I think if waiting 506 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 1: to get him with a laugh, best laugh on the 507 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 1: team in all time? Great do you get do an oppression? 508 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,160 Speaker 1: It's a good one. So we're gonna try our best 509 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 1: to get that out of him. On Thursday, that podcast 510 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 1: is going to come out. Thank you for listening once again. 511 00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:20,000 Speaker 1: Make sure to you rate and review the podcast. Tell 512 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:22,399 Speaker 1: your friends share it. Do you have all those things 513 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:26,159 Speaker 1: on the digital sphere to get this thing heard. We 514 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:39,680 Speaker 1: appreciate it and we'll talk to you again Thursday.