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Speaker 1: I was reading something, uh that you you you have

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, a lot of that.

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Speaker 1: And that word jumped out that you had you was like,

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Speaker 1: I can't do this ship because it's too much fucking

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Speaker 2: You know, I was still doing it. I just I didn't.

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Speaker 2: I wasn't trying to take credit for anything. I didn't

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Speaker 3: It is just what it was.

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Speaker 1: Just what was something When people was finding out it

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Speaker 2: But once I started showing up at the country musical

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Speaker 2: wars and ship like that and presenting and ship like that,

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Speaker 2: like was like we do like this, like they're fine

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Speaker 2: with black people in country there, it's you know, taking

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Speaker 2: it put it like this, I don't think. I don't

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Speaker 2: think it was so much as racism as it was gatekeeping,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean. That's a huge difference. And

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Speaker 2: I the only thing that made me think it was

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Speaker 2: of the gate keeping, you know what I mean. We

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Speaker 2: don't need these niggas coming over here doing this blah

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Speaker 2: blah blah. And I'm you know that's fair because I

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Speaker 3: I was just about to say, like that in the

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Speaker 2: War not even this, not even this, But I feel

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Speaker 2: like black people would do the same thing. If a

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Speaker 2: rapper start doing reggae music, doesn't even have to be

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Speaker 2: a white person coming into our bro. If I tried

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Speaker 2: to redo covers of Bob Marley, niggas would be up

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Speaker 2: in arms. Get your stupid ass, bro, because I think

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Speaker 2: me personally, I think black people will do the same

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Speaker 2: thing to black people, just different genres. I think it's

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Speaker 2: genre gate keeping more than it is racism or anything.

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Speaker 1: But to be honest, we couldn't do that in the

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Speaker 1: hip hop and the rap genre because we don't control ship.

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Speaker 3: But just be real, we don't. We don't control nothing

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Speaker 3: to go on.

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Speaker 2: See, here's the thing. Nobody controls anything. The fact that

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Speaker 2: we think we do.

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Speaker 3: Black people don't.

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Speaker 2: Everybody thinks they control you know, I'm talking about like

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Speaker 2: fans and ship like that. We're not talking about I'm

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Speaker 2: not nobody's gate keeping within the industry. Everybody within the

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Speaker 2: industry is like, go get your money due the Yeah,

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Speaker 2: if you want to do other ship, go, do you think?

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Speaker 2: But fans, blogs, commentators all that ship it, they always

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Speaker 2: gonna gate keep because things are a certain way that

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Speaker 2: they want them to be, and the it's the reason

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Speaker 2: that their career or their you know, the feeling that

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Speaker 2: they have behind that is what it is. You start

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Speaker 2: fucking up people's memories of things, like look how long

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Speaker 2: you know as much as I loved it, because I

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Speaker 2: loved it to death, but I think people kind of

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Speaker 2: push Snoop out of Snoop Lion.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and let me tell you, I like that out.

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Speaker 2: I love it growing up. He got tired of at first.

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Speaker 2: But the ship that I saw from it was like,

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Speaker 2: oh this nagger got dreads a thing that Jamaican.

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Speaker 4: And you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: Like that, yeah, because you know Snoop all was so

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Speaker 1: funny and comical. But when I listened to the music.

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Speaker 3: I said, Oh, this ship is good.

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Speaker 2: I thought it was gonna be some chill ship, like, oh,

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Speaker 2: he's just trying something out, that's what.

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Speaker 1: It's really good.

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Speaker 2: He's because you know, when Snoop want to do something,

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Speaker 2: I don't know if he just weaned off of it

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Speaker 2: and just was like, all right, that was cool as

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Speaker 2: fuck did it? But it was just so much negativity

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Speaker 4: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 2: And it wasn't a It wasn't like a subtle thing. Jerry.

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Speaker 5: You bring up country music and us diving in it

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Speaker 5: like Polo to done, like he was working with Zane Brown.

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Speaker 5: You got blank O'brown and Beyonce has jumped in it.

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Speaker 5: What does that look like to you? To somebody that

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Speaker 5: reception because they were like kind of mad at Beyonce

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Speaker 5: being number one in that that field, what does that

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Speaker 5: look like to you? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Well, one, Beyonce don't look like me.

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Speaker 3: Hey, when motherfucking this business?

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Speaker 2: This skin tone in this face? It doesn't Garner Joy.

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Speaker 1: I'm glad, I'm glad. I'm glad you spoke on it.

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Speaker 2: You Yeah, I mean, but she's already the queen, like

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Speaker 2: she can do what she want. She can do Indian

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Speaker 2: music right now you want to. She can be literally

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Speaker 2: spit gibberish and say everybody, I did an album in

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Speaker 3: It's gonna gonna go. It's gonna go.

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Speaker 2: Remember what sucking When Ron Browns and and Buzz Rhymes

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Speaker 2: and did a rab money and then Ron Browse uh

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Speaker 2: was like mocking Arabic and he was like, am I

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Speaker 2: playing blead?

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Speaker 1: Mean?

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Speaker 2: That's that? That's it was offensive as fun? But I

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Speaker 2: better Beyonce do it doing dances to it like we

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Speaker 2: got new language. Guys, it's over. We got Beyonce creates

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Speaker 2: a new language.

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Speaker 1: As a as a see we can't hey, storyteller, legendary,

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Speaker 1: this is this man. You ain't no. Look he got

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Speaker 1: my chest burning this ship, drinking this ship. He look,

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Speaker 1: look I should have let it. He brought out three

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Speaker 1: cups and kept him. Hey, look he tried, but my dumbas.

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Speaker 3: Ship.

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Speaker 2: Now you got to figure out how you're gonna get on.

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Speaker 4: It's gotta be true, sir, brother.

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Speaker 3: Can I can I see who this ship will? Hey?

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Speaker 2: Man? How long it take ubers to get over here?

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Speaker 3: So little pain? As a songwriter, h who is that

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Speaker 3: one producer. You haven't collabed with that. You want to

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Speaker 3: you want to get with Paolo?

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Speaker 2: Whoa and Polo haven't gotten the end. I've done songs

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Speaker 2: with Polo, remember that song Shout. We always we always

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Speaker 3: Getting how the fun haven't y'all gotten together?

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Speaker 2: We together? Remember that? Remember that Ludger song that Runaway Love. Yes,

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Speaker 2: I did that first and then Luda did it and

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Speaker 2: Polo gave it to him.

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Speaker 4: It's a complexion.

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Speaker 2: It was a complexion that we can't have that look

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Speaker 2: the red dude.

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Speaker 1: The woman said, he say he complexion because you know

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Speaker 1: he'd have benefited from that.

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Speaker 2: She was on the conference call to give it to

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Speaker 2: Darsky dark versus Light, dreads versus breathe. There was a

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Speaker 2: of happening. But nah, like we me and Polo have

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Speaker 2: done a lot of things together, but we've never gotten in.

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Speaker 2: Like it's just like, actually God got something in you

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Speaker 2: know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: So well, let's make that happen. Man. I just talked

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Speaker 3: to Polo maybe last week.

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Speaker 2: I was trying to captain when he's playing cards in

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Speaker 2: the Magic City.

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Speaker 1: Yeah I was, but look when he playing cards with him,

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Speaker 1: Nelly Jones, magic man, you hey man, that ain't like

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Speaker 1: like we would saying that that ain't the time to talk.

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Speaker 2: No, bit, you can't talk. You can't talk about it.

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Speaker 2: You can't talk about it. You can't barely shake his hand.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, he can holler you. Look, and

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Speaker 1: it was so crazy is they had a table like

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Speaker 3: You can't do that on a Monday night.

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Speaker 2: You can't do with his pack. You're taking up space

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Speaker 2: for this car game. And then his niggas watching the

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Speaker 2: car game like they never see motherfuckers playing car.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, because it's Nelly Julio Jones and.

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Speaker 2: Dude on Magic Test. Don't do the ship where I

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Speaker 3: I walked in once. I said, damn, y'all got the

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Speaker 4: Dollars all on the table.

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Speaker 2: At least get a comment.

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Speaker 3: I think they plan they playing tonks.

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Speaker 2: No way y'all bringing the talk game.

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Speaker 1: I think they playing to y'all got bro, Yeah, let's

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Speaker 1: let's make that happen. Man to don oh boy that

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Speaker 1: I like that combo.

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Speaker 2: I do do do do? I've done a lot of

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Speaker 2: ship it because because I've done a lot of ship

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Speaker 2: with Tim Land. Like I was, I was around timmer

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Speaker 2: So it was like I was like, who's doing these?

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Speaker 2: It was like, oh, that's my yea.

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Speaker 3: So I was like, okay, is Tim your favorite producer

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Speaker 3: to work with?

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Speaker 2: Producer to work with? Oh, you know, it's my favorite

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Speaker 2: producer to work with. And this is a fuck up Charlie.

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Speaker 3: Pooth whoa.

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Speaker 2: Hmmm.

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Speaker 3: Why you say this fucked up?

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Speaker 6: Though?

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Speaker 2: Uh, it's only fucked up because you know.

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Speaker 3: That the complex thing again you see what white chocolate

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Speaker 3: and white.

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Speaker 2: Charlie Booth. But my favorite studio session I've ever had

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Speaker 2: was with Bruno Mars. M hmm.

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Speaker 3: And why is that?

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Speaker 2: Bro This man has a different Let me tell you something.

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Speaker 2: Engineers hate Bruno Mars because he don't record anything separate.

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Speaker 2: Everything is happening. The songs sound like they sound because

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Speaker 2: everything's happening in the control room. So big speakers are

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Speaker 2: on right, all the keyboards are lined up on the

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Speaker 2: it's happening. So if there's backgrounds, there's three niggas around

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Speaker 2: one mic in the control room, he's singing the lead

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Speaker 2: on the shit. There's somebody playing keys while they're doing it.

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Speaker 2: Everybody is busy, but the speakers are on and loud,

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Speaker 2: and the mic is picking up all that shit and

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Speaker 2: the engineer has to figure it out. It's like the

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Speaker 2: only thing that's not in the control rooms the drums,

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Speaker 2: and that's only because they won't fit.

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Speaker 6: You.

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Speaker 3: They try to put the drums in it.

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Speaker 2: No, bro, no, so I know that. You know, because

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Speaker 2: you got mic the drums. You gotta make each drum

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Speaker 2: up and ship like that. You gotta put the on

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Speaker 2: that work, so it wouldn't fit. But all the keys

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Speaker 2: this does this? But man, man, man, and then it's

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Speaker 2: like okay, yep, go back thirty seconds. Punch is a

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Speaker 2: right there and we all just run and then everybody

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Speaker 2: at the same time. It's like a full band.

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Speaker 3: You ain't never trying to emulate that process. So I'm

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Speaker 2: Not at all because, as you can see in here,

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Speaker 2: The normal? You know who? Who? Us? Isn't that great

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Speaker 2: Everybody thought I was. Everybody was like, how are you

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Speaker 3: Is it wrong for me to still be baby sitting

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Speaker 2: No? No, this is why I can drink.

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Speaker 1: Because so you want me to rework that. What do

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Speaker 2: So that's always gonna be whatever the industry wants it

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Speaker 2: There's always something we have to we have to actively

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Speaker 2: what's coming?

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Speaker 1: It's just it seems like it seems like R and

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Speaker 3: Man, But here's the thing.

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Speaker 2: But here's the thing. It's already been there. It's always

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Speaker 2: It's been buried because the ship music. Then the people

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Speaker 2: it's a it's a strategic thing that we all know

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Speaker 2: when's the first when when think back, now, when's the

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Speaker 3: Mm Hmm.

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Speaker 2: We've been knowing this is happening for years, but we

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Speaker 2: But it became popular people, because what does that mean?

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Speaker 2: We know what it takes to actually be more popular.

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Speaker 2: But it doesn't mean you're good, which is why I

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Speaker 2: it's a difference between really giving a fuck about something

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Because it's like, I guess

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Speaker 2: we could we could search and say, hey, I'm about

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Speaker 2: I don't know if y'all heard this, because you know

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Speaker 2: and you don't do that, shit, guess what you ain't

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Speaker 5: And ironically, these past two weeks you've been like my

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Speaker 5: the stream like that, I never thought about, like that

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Speaker 2: That's all it takes. That's all it takes. It's just

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Speaker 2: most annoying thing on Instagram that people can just tag

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Speaker 2: you saw their fucking story. Damn, that's the thing. Let

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Speaker 1: Look at the look. You got your drink. You got

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Speaker 1: your drink. You gotta refeel.

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Speaker 2: Let me take something.

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Speaker 1: Go ahead, refeel because we talk d time with legendary Jerry.

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Speaker 1: I am Jerry Clark, new face. We're sitting here with just.

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Speaker 2: This is just a thing we sit with t Pain

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Speaker 2: work out with some people.

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Speaker 2: Brother. If you post your song on Instagram and you

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Speaker 2: when it's got that little red dot on it, I

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Speaker 2: I gotta see whatever that red dot is for. I

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna pass by your story once I see it's

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Speaker 2: not me. I'm not listening to it. I'm not clicking.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: The fact that you make that red dot come back

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Speaker 2: up because you screenshot and circle. T Pain saw your shit.

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Speaker 2: You're making the red dot come back. And now I

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Speaker 2: gotta see that thing of you saying, oh shit, T

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Speaker 2: Pain saw my story. Now here's the thing. When you

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Speaker 2: take that screen shot and I'm the only person that

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Speaker 2: saw that story, I can see it because there's no

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Speaker 2: there's no list. It's supposed to be a list of

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Speaker 2: people that saw that story. If I'm the only person

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Speaker 2: on the list, who the fuck are you telling this to?

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Speaker 2: You're telling this to me, he said, Oh shit, T Paint,

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Speaker 2: T Pain saw my story. I'm the only person watching

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Speaker 2: your story because you tagged me. Stop tagging me in

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Speaker 2: your fucking songs. I don't want to hear it.

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Speaker 3: And you don't give a ship.

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Speaker 2: Even if I did send it, send it to somebody

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Speaker 2: I know.

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Speaker 4: Ps A.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, you're telling people. You're telling people to not

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Speaker 2: shoot their shots.

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Speaker 3: I'm not saying because that's how that's how they go

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Speaker 2: I'm not saying that. Just don't do it with where

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Speaker 2: you're letting my old CD live. Bro let my ship breathe,

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Speaker 2: my nigga, Just help me, motherfucker, Like just stop, Just

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Speaker 2: do it in some other way to where it's not

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Speaker 1: So for all those inspiring artists, y'all hear that this

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Speaker 2: Do music, bro, artists, don't tag me and Andre three thousand.

443
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:04,000
Speaker 2: You go different audiences.

444
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:08,199
Speaker 3: He's just going for somebody see it.

445
00:23:08,240 --> 00:23:08,880
Speaker 6: Bro, you can't.

446
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:09,359
Speaker 1: You can't.

447
00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:11,400
Speaker 2: You can't say hey, I got a new song come

448
00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:14,679
Speaker 2: out and then it's you and then you click on

449
00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,159
Speaker 2: the tag people and it's me Andre three thousand and

450
00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,600
Speaker 2: Lebron James. What the what are you trying to do?

451
00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:23,200
Speaker 3: And what's that right? What's the what's the goal to

452
00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:23,520
Speaker 3: really get?

453
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:24,320
Speaker 2: What's the goal?

454
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:24,640
Speaker 4: Bro?

455
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:27,879
Speaker 2: Stop? You did? I get it on the shoot the shot?

456
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:28,440
Speaker 2: But just.

457
00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 3: Hey, how you hold on?

458
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:35,479
Speaker 4: Lay it up?

459
00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:38,840
Speaker 2: Yo? Just at least be specifically.

460
00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:41,640
Speaker 1: Before we get out of here. Man, damn this this

461
00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 1: this hey new face. He's passionate about this.

462
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:48,359
Speaker 3: Bro, Stop tagging me this.

463
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:51,280
Speaker 2: But it's only annoying because when you say, oh, ship

464
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,399
Speaker 2: ta paints all my story, I'm the only person that

465
00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:55,960
Speaker 2: watched the story. Nobody else watched it.

466
00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,560
Speaker 3: Who are you they gonna repost the highlighted t paint

467
00:23:58,600 --> 00:23:59,360
Speaker 3: watching my ship?

468
00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:02,879
Speaker 2: But no, he else saw that story that I saw.

469
00:24:03,440 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 2: So now you're saying, oh, ship Tea paints all this stuff,

470
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:09,639
Speaker 2: but you're only telling me that I saw it. You

471
00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,719
Speaker 2: got one view on the story, and it was me.

472
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:18,080
Speaker 4: Okay, I hope that's not the goal, right.

473
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:22,879
Speaker 1: Hey, man, before we go, before we get up out

474
00:24:22,920 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 1: of here, because look, I don't want you to refeel

475
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:25,840
Speaker 1: that couple.

476
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:32,560
Speaker 2: Oh no, well now you're yeah, you guys leave, You

477
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,960
Speaker 2: can leave right now. I'm gonna stream tonight again.

478
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:39,399
Speaker 3: It's gonna be so this was constant. I'm sorry.

479
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:47,080
Speaker 6: Look, it's tough.

480
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:50,680
Speaker 3: What's the word wiscans and.

481
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:55,080
Speaker 2: Wis cansing fest or the whole tour. There's both, there's both.

482
00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:58,840
Speaker 1: I was just before we pulled up, not the name

483
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:00,720
Speaker 1: dropping my brother. I was on the want killing Mike,

484
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:02,600
Speaker 1: all right, and I told him I was coming to

485
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 1: see you.

486
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,720
Speaker 2: Picked that up for him. Huh, See that picked that

487
00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 2: up for him. He just dropped the name, right.

488
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,639
Speaker 3: But it's a different. Look, it's a different that.

489
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:18,240
Speaker 2: You said. I call him Michael. That's what you.

490
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:22,639
Speaker 5: Know.

491
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 2: I'm talking to killing him. I don't know what you

492
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:24,679
Speaker 2: call him.

493
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:25,000
Speaker 3: I call him.

494
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:26,159
Speaker 4: I hit you back, Mike.

495
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:26,520
Speaker 2: I'm going to.

496
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:33,000
Speaker 3: Look Jesus saying. But he was saying that you know

497
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:33,399
Speaker 3: he was.

498
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 1: He was looking forward to possibly from the Jewels, being

499
00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 1: on the Wisconser fast and this thing has grown.

500
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:42,440
Speaker 3: Man, where me.

501
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:43,000
Speaker 2: And Mike got me?

502
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:51,119
Speaker 3: Hey, damn call him and might got me for what?

503
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:57,200
Speaker 2: Uh oh, here we go drink drink on Instagram.

504
00:25:57,280 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 3: I'm you.

505
00:26:04,080 --> 00:26:07,600
Speaker 2: I've been trying to get Mike on my podcast for

506
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:13,439
Speaker 2: so long, for two seasons. Tell and I respect, I

507
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 2: respect the time and all that, but you are doing

508
00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:18,679
Speaker 2: so many fucking podcasts right now.

509
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,200
Speaker 3: Guess what. He ain't been on story Time Legend there Jared.

510
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,439
Speaker 2: Damn it. But you can call him anytime you want to.

511
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 2: I try to Mike.

512
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 3: Come on, man, you have to put that voice.

513
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 2: Podcast man, come.

514
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,159
Speaker 3: On, he goes see this.

515
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, you go see We're gonna tag them.

516
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,520
Speaker 3: We're gonna ta your cameras.

517
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:43,520
Speaker 2: Podcast is right there, said we.

518
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 3: Sitting that, we're sitting that the hold up on the

519
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:49,679
Speaker 3: podcast ship.

520
00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 4: Tag us all we'll see your.

521
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 2: Gonna see it?

522
00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:01,199
Speaker 3: Got what the cast events under Jewels? How long this

523
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 3: ship been not? How long? How did how did this

524
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 3: ship been grew into a whole?

525
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 2: So this is the third year, this is the third.

526
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:10,439
Speaker 3: Year, and it's grown to a monster.

527
00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:12,520
Speaker 2: It's grown into a monster. And that's it's the third

528
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 2: year because I took over. I took over my life.

529
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:20,160
Speaker 2: I made I made it a decision to I'm gonna

530
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,239
Speaker 2: run this ship the way I do, the way I

531
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:26,360
Speaker 2: want to. You know, I'm gonna start actually making these meetings,

532
00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:29,639
Speaker 2: and you know I don't. This is also when I

533
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:33,200
Speaker 2: got rid of any management, so I don't. I don't.

534
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 2: I have no manager. I haven't had a manager since

535
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 2: like in twenty nineteen. Like I've really been on my

536
00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:46,399
Speaker 2: ship on some I'm gonna do everything I can to

537
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 2: make sure I'm successful. You know, I'm gonna I'm gonna

538
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 2: kill all these us, all the leisurely things like that's cool,

539
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 2: but me wanting to get up and make these conference

540
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:00,439
Speaker 2: calls and ship like that, because usually I wouldn't. I

541
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:04,119
Speaker 2: just say, hey, manager person, go do that call for me,

542
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 2: let me know what they said afterwards, and let me

543
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,160
Speaker 2: know if we got money or not. But the fact

544
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:09,880
Speaker 2: that I'm a part of the deals now, I'm part

545
00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:11,920
Speaker 2: of the conversation, I'm a part of the planning, I'm

546
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 2: a part of everything. Everything has to go through me

547
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:18,000
Speaker 2: before we do anything. Everything has to have my approval,

548
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:21,639
Speaker 2: everything has to you know, everything has to have this

549
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:29,080
Speaker 2: this certain level of operation. And I think it's because

550
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:32,440
Speaker 2: of that, is you know, the reason for this resurgence,

551
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:39,280
Speaker 2: And it's more so because I give a fucker by myself. Again,

552
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, right, But at the same time,

553
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:46,760
Speaker 2: it's like when you ask when you ask your manager, hey,

554
00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:51,959
Speaker 2: what what is it? You would say you do? And

555
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 2: if there's no clear answer, then it's.

556
00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 3: So do you hand pick all the artists that's on

557
00:28:57,840 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 3: the this, this on the Oh?

558
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, so a lot of people saw a lot of

559
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:03,960
Speaker 2: people say why don't you get this person? Why don't

560
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 2: you get this popular person? This popular person? But bo

561
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 2: And it's because I don't fuck with them as people.

562
00:29:09,640 --> 00:29:12,120
Speaker 2: I get, I get I've handpicked the artists on my

563
00:29:12,280 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 2: on my fast because I fuck with them as people.

564
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 2: And that's only when you have control, when you have

565
00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,080
Speaker 2: control of what you're doing, and when you have control

566
00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 2: of your career and your life, is when you can

567
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 2: do that, you know what I mean, Like you know,

568
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 2: look at Dreamville and shit like that, Like you know

569
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 2: what I mean, up and smoke stuff like that, like

570
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 2: you can. You really don't need the popularity contest to

571
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 2: draw people there, you know, in some authentic shit, you

572
00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:40,440
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like even the tour, my direct

573
00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 2: support besides you know, my artist, myself, uh myself and

574
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 2: Young Cash and Nando Stl, my direct support is Larussell,

575
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,160
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Because that's I fuck with

576
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,200
Speaker 2: l Russell as a person. It's not he ain't the

577
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 2: most popular nigga. He ain't gonna you know, uh, he

578
00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:58,560
Speaker 2: does his numbers.

579
00:29:58,600 --> 00:29:59,960
Speaker 4: But got the Independent Game.

580
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 2: He got the Independent Game on lock and that, and

581
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,440
Speaker 2: that's you know, I'm a big part of the Independent Game.

582
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:06,520
Speaker 2: So when we talk about say like that, it's like,

583
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:10,719
Speaker 2: why didn't you get somebody more popular? Like that's not

584
00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 2: what I'm going for. I can make I can make

585
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 2: negative dollars on this tour. The thing is is that

586
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 2: I wanted to do a tour and I did it.

587
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 2: I got the people that I wanted on it, and

588
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 2: we fucking traveled the goddamn country doing this ship that

589
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 2: we wanted to do.

590
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 5: Past guests, Tip is I think we got announced tea

591
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 5: and we got.

592
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 2: On one of the joints, you know, and we worked

593
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 2: that out in Australia. Because even even in Australia, like

594
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 2: me and Tip like had a whole new a whole

595
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 2: new friendship because we were friends before. But it's like

596
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 2: just being together for a month and being on the

597
00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,400
Speaker 2: road and going through the same heartships and ship like that,

598
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 2: It's like, bro, this shit sucks, right, yeah, this sucks.

599
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,080
Speaker 2: And that's how a conversation starts and into just like

600
00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:54,680
Speaker 2: a whole new like let's get in we setting up

601
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 2: studios in the hotel, like you know what I mean.

602
00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 2: Like it's like it's people that I fucked with for real.

603
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 2: And when you're not in this industry, and when you're

604
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:07,920
Speaker 2: not being controlled by this industry, you have the power

605
00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:11,080
Speaker 2: to just do that. That's the key world and control

606
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 2: being controlled. And people think there's this magic round table

607
00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 2: of Jewish people that's controlling all this shit, and it's

608
00:31:17,920 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 2: not that, you know, who's controlling the whole music industry

609
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 2: the fans.

610
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:23,479
Speaker 4: That's how it should be.

611
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 2: The fans are controlling this shit because they say we're

612
00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 2: the sheep, we're being controlled by the illuminati. I don't

613
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 2: know any sheep that can get fifteen thousand people to

614
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 2: show up to one place at a specific time. I

615
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 2: don't think we're the sheep. Not allowed to you but still,

616
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 2: if you're saying that we're being controlled by this magic

617
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 2: round table of Jewish people, then that's crazy because I

618
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 2: don't see that happening. I think you guys control what's

619
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:55,280
Speaker 2: getting bought, what the patterns are, because that's all. That's

620
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 2: all this whole thing is. It's people establishing patterns. Oh shit,

621
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 2: when we did this, a lot of people paid for it.

622
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 2: Let's keep doing those things. It's not a this is

623
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 2: not a big decision maker roundtable thing. This is establishing

624
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 2: what marketing works. And like that, oh man, you you

625
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,840
Speaker 2: you're gonna get killed. They're like, no, that's you know,

626
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 2: that's just regular drugs people are getting Speaking of drugs,

627
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 2: this is regular drugs. People are just dying. And that's.

628
00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:26,600
Speaker 5: An evolution that you had to come to this point.

629
00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 5: And I've been in rooms where your evolution has spoke volumes.

630
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,200
Speaker 5: Because recently, I think we were at Dave Chappelle's show

631
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 5: you Link with Usher, I was at a black show. Yeah,

632
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 5: a con was there on stage, so talk about, like,

633
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 5: you know, just kind of healing things. I don't want

634
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 5: to talk about what the issue was.

635
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,120
Speaker 2: And it is not even a it's not even a

636
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 2: process of I wouldn't say healing a process of healing,

637
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 2: but it's like a it's a it's an understanding of

638
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 2: what what what the fuck man? Because in the in

639
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 2: the process, you're like, you're not trying to pay attention

640
00:33:01,040 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 2: to what anybody has to say, or what what anybody

641
00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:06,479
Speaker 2: side of anything that's going on. You just pay attention

642
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:08,720
Speaker 2: to how you felt and then that's it, you know

643
00:33:08,760 --> 00:33:12,600
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. So healing would be healing would be

644
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 2: trying to figure out why you felt how you felt

645
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:16,920
Speaker 2: and all that ship like that. But I think the

646
00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 2: process of understanding is like I still feel how I felt,

647
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 2: but I need to know why you felt that you felt.

648
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 5: Usher's case, he he I don't think he is prior

649
00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:32,720
Speaker 5: to the Dave Chapelle show, or do you know I

650
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 5: was there?

651
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 2: He had no idea I was even there, so so

652
00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 2: when I went up on that stage, he was kind

653
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 2: of surprised, but it.

654
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,120
Speaker 4: Was just like it was a prior conversation.

655
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:43,040
Speaker 2: No, no, none of that. I don't think even Dave

656
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:44,560
Speaker 2: Chapelle even if I was there, because I was just

657
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:45,280
Speaker 2: sitting in the crowd.

658
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 5: I bought tickets, okay, because I knew about your previous sea.

659
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:55,120
Speaker 2: Somebody somebody saw me. Uh the fucking show stopper saw me,

660
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 2: and he was like, hey, uh, Donelle, I want you

661
00:33:59,880 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 2: to come up there. And I'm like, oh why, I'm

662
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 2: just there enjoying the show. That's like not about to

663
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 2: do a music party. Then I'm like, okay, what's going on?

664
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 2: It's like about to go.

665
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 3: But you know, it.

666
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:12,800
Speaker 2: Wasn't because I didn't want to do it. It was because

667
00:34:12,800 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 2: I knew what the what the media was gonna make.

668
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:17,440
Speaker 2: But you know, once I got up there, I was like,

669
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 2: hey man, I'm good. Like I'm doing okay now, you

670
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 2: know what I mean, Like, I'm fine. So it's not

671
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 2: it doesn't hurt me as much. The reason the Usher

672
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 2: ship hurt me as much as it did when it

673
00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:33,439
Speaker 2: happened is because my career was going down at the time,

674
00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:37,560
Speaker 2: and that was the nailing the coffin. That's what it

675
00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 2: was then, you know what I mean, It wasn't. It

676
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 2: wasn't like, oh, he's saying something that hurt my feelings

677
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:43,400
Speaker 2: so bad that I went into a depression. I was

678
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 2: already depressed, but that last thing of somebody that I

679
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 2: respected so much was like, yeah, no, all that ship,

680
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:50,919
Speaker 2: you're feeling. It's true.

681
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 6: Bamn, that's it.

682
00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,320
Speaker 5: You think that was more impactful than the death of

683
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 5: auto tools? Personally?

684
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 2: Absolutely, it was absolutely because because I'm not a rapper,

685
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 2: and it wasn't like a, oh my god, this is

686
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:09,919
Speaker 2: one of my most respected you know what I'm saying,

687
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 2: Like I like, I used to fucking sit in the

688
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 2: bed and write down usher lyrics just so I can

689
00:35:15,000 --> 00:35:17,439
Speaker 2: learn the song. You know what I mean. It's one person.

690
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:19,360
Speaker 2: It's somebody I really looked up to it. It's somebody

691
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,439
Speaker 2: I really tried to model my singing after and ship

692
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,399
Speaker 2: like that. And when he said, hey, I don't fuck

693
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 2: with you either, bam, it was just like like when

694
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 2: jay Z said, it's like I ain't never met you.

695
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:31,480
Speaker 2: It wasn't.

696
00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 4: I grew up.

697
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 2: That's time I grew up. Like trying to learn your

698
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 2: lyrics like that was like, fuck man, damn, that's it.

699
00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 2: I'm done. This is my last sliver of hope. Because

700
00:35:43,880 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 2: we was going to the BT Awards at the same time,

701
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 2: on the same flight when he told me that, and

702
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,760
Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, I'm on this plane

703
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:54,440
Speaker 2: with somebody I really really fucking like. And it was

704
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 2: cool as hell. His kids was climbing all over me

705
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 2: to look out the window, and shit, it was crazy,

706
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,160
Speaker 2: Like I was. I was like happy that he was there.

707
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 2: And then when I went to sleep and woke up

708
00:36:02,719 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 2: and got that news, I was like, well, there's that happened.

709
00:36:09,040 --> 00:36:12,880
Speaker 5: And ironically on YouTube there's a song with Michael Jackson,

710
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 5: Usher and t Paine.

711
00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:14,800
Speaker 2: Yeah.

712
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 4: Why is wo?

713
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 2: So that was so that was because the guy that

714
00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,320
Speaker 2: did the reference uh leaked it and then Michael Jackson

715
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 2: was like, well, I don't want to do it anymore.

716
00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:25,800
Speaker 2: And then by the time we were setting up a

717
00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,799
Speaker 2: new session might passed away.

718
00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:30,880
Speaker 4: Have you ever heard that song here? Or did you

719
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 4: know he did a song with Michael Jackson.

720
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:38,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, So even in that session, which is fucking crazy

721
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 2: to me, even in that session we did like seven

722
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 2: other songs to me and Usher, and one of the

723
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 2: writers that was helping me write stuff was fucking Miguel Wow.

724
00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:53,440
Speaker 2: And nobody knew at that point. I want to new

725
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 2: Miguel at that point, and I was like, because he

726
00:36:55,719 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 2: was such a great writer, I was like, dude, you

727
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:00,960
Speaker 2: why aren't you an artist? Like man, I just want

728
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:02,560
Speaker 2: to know. I'm just back here. I don't want to

729
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:04,799
Speaker 2: be pain I'm just doing my thing. And then he

730
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,680
Speaker 2: came out and then somebody said, hey, you know, that's

731
00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 2: Miguel Miguel, and I was like the one that was

732
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 2: like he's Mexican but yeah.

733
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:25,320
Speaker 3: And whatever, God.

734
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 2: God, but yes, that was that one talking about writer Miguel.

735
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,840
Speaker 2: No but yeah, but you know, and that was like,

736
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 2: Miguel knows these stories like this was, you know, and

737
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 2: he knows who the other writer was in the room.

738
00:37:44,840 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 2: Because obviously when you get T pain, like you think

739
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 2: T Pain is gonna come write T pain songs. But

740
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:53,960
Speaker 2: my greatest I wouldn't say my greatest achievement, but my my, my.

741
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 2: The thing that I like about writing for other people

742
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 2: so much is how I can shape shift and how

743
00:37:57,880 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 2: I can make the song theirs and it don't sound

744
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:01,879
Speaker 2: like a fucking T pain song, you know what I mean.

745
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,080
Speaker 2: So that that's how I got to write in country

746
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:06,479
Speaker 2: songs because people are like, oh, ship, you're not gonna

747
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:08,200
Speaker 2: make me sound like deep paying that's cool, Yeah you

748
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 2: can just yeah, just come on. So you know, when

749
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 2: when I was in that writing when people people don't

750
00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,360
Speaker 2: think that I'm gonna be able to just you know,

751
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 2: make them have a good song. They bring in other writers.

752
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 2: So me and Miguel was in there vibe, and you know,

753
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:25,320
Speaker 2: the other guy just kind of was there doing references.

754
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:29,759
Speaker 2: So he didn't really feel useful, I guess. So once

755
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 2: once the songs got done, he was like, holy shit,

756
00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 2: I gott seven songs you want on that computer over there?

757
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 3: What you're gonna do?

758
00:38:37,360 --> 00:38:37,600
Speaker 6: Well?

759
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:38,840
Speaker 2: Oh absolutely not.

760
00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 3: Face grabbed a hard. Let's go ship. Hey, seven songs

761
00:38:46,120 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 3: with USh.

762
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 2: I just listened to him every now and then when

763
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 2: I when I like, you know, I'm drunk.

764
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 3: So what what ib us? You hit you and say, hey, man,

765
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 3: let's drop that.

766
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 2: Let's drop not at all?

767
00:38:57,960 --> 00:38:58,359
Speaker 3: Why not?

768
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:01,600
Speaker 2: They're very very dated. They sound like when we made them,

769
00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 2: sound exactly like when we made them. We put them

770
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 2: ships out of be like, man, you get these two

771
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 2: thousand and eight ass.

772
00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 3: But but hey, but pay it ain't no expiration. They

773
00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 3: don't get it.

774
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,759
Speaker 2: Ain't no expiration. They do on good music, but boy

775
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 2: work update on drums and.

776
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 1: Okay okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.

777
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 2: I'm saying, if us you call me, let's put them

778
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:31,680
Speaker 2: bitches out. I'll be like, just start over, producers. The

779
00:39:31,719 --> 00:39:37,000
Speaker 2: concepts are sucking dope. The you know, contextual h Conceptually

780
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 2: they're they're amazing, but you know, just sonically there there's

781
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 2: been some there's been some advancements.

782
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, about sixteen years.

783
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, Hair on Storytee with Legendary Jerry, you talk about

784
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 5: songs that you wrote that you know, people wouldn't know

785
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 5: that you wrote. What name one song on this podcast

786
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,839
Speaker 5: that you you can name that people probably wouldn't know,

787
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 5: maybe don't.

788
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:01,120
Speaker 4: Know that you wrote that.

789
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:03,319
Speaker 2: Luke Bryan, that's my kind of night.

790
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 3: Okay, Damn. I went to his concert at Lakewood did

791
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 3: did you.

792
00:40:10,840 --> 00:40:10,920
Speaker 1: Know?

793
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 3: I didn't really I.

794
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:13,480
Speaker 1: Want really up on country. I was just I just

795
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:16,279
Speaker 1: wanted to. I don't know he was that huge. I

796
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 1: knew he was big.

797
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 3: I knew Luke Brian was huge.

798
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 2: I was selling out stadiums.

799
00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:25,840
Speaker 4: Mann stream that one right.

800
00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:28,560
Speaker 3: There, Luke Bryn. So show that that public checking a

801
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 3: right Pain.

802
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:32,880
Speaker 2: It ain't doing bad?

803
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, that that that publishing check country. Look you said that.

804
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:40,279
Speaker 1: Look now want to bite his tonn't bite your ton.

805
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:41,240
Speaker 2: I'm doing fine.

806
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 3: I'm doing that.

807
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:45,520
Speaker 2: But look, man, you know I got other businesses.

808
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:49,960
Speaker 1: Streaming stream a little so you know, a story time

809
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:51,439
Speaker 1: of legendary Jerry Man Pain.

810
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 3: We appreciate you, bro, Thank.

811
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 1: You, thank you for kicking off the day we've been

812
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 1: looking forward to.

813
00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:00,360
Speaker 2: On this earlier to day, you got, you got your stuff.

814
00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 4: Like said, they don't know what time it is on the.

815
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:07,759
Speaker 3: Sweater and the hat master.

816
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:09,160
Speaker 2: The fact that you can see the daytime at the

817
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 2: back window, back.

818
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:13,480
Speaker 3: Storytell of legendary.

819
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:15,480
Speaker 2: J I am just three and afternoon this we I

820
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:18,399
Speaker 2: want you all to know. We're drinking this this early and.

821
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 1: You're drinking tim drinking sping. Look, these niggas, don't bring

822
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:30,839
Speaker 1: us into your sh niggas. You're on your third cup.

823
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:31,959
Speaker 2: You know.

824
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 3: I'm still babysitting the the movies.

825
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 2: On the movies. When the when the lawyer come in

826
00:41:36,440 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 2: from a hard days of work and the first thing

827
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 2: you do is poor as a whiskey, and you're like, oh,

828
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 2: that's some classic drinking, them niggas.

829
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:42,800
Speaker 3: It was alcoholic.

830
00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:48,360
Speaker 2: It came out of a cancer.

831
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 3: Now now I'm gonna drink to that.

832
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:55,000
Speaker 2: Wiill kill it now, no classic drinking story.

833
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 3: Time of legendary Jerry. I am Jerry Clark. This is

834
00:41:57,480 --> 00:41:58,799
Speaker 3: new face and I'm t.

835
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 2: Paint my brothers your pas boyfriend man.

836
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 1: We appreciate you tuning in every Wednesday, every Friday, we

837
00:42:06,120 --> 00:42:07,040
Speaker 1: have a new episode.

838
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 3: Make sure make sure y'all like subscribe, you.

839
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 1: Know, legend Jerry, Maybe if you said that, do that? God,

840
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:19,799
Speaker 1: come on editor, can they like and subscribe? Make sure

841
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 1: on your Apple podcast.

842
00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:23,480
Speaker 4: Maybe if we at them and then and then we

843
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 4: at them and they see it.

844
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 2: They see it. That read dot part.

845
00:42:31,400 --> 00:42:36,839
Speaker 1: Radio app story Time with the Legendary Jerry signing Jerry Face,

846
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:37,799
Speaker 1: Thank you man, I heard.

847
00:42:37,719 --> 00:42:38,720
Speaker 2: One put my podcast.

848
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 1: You're here with one of the podcast executives, I'd love

849
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:49,399
Speaker 1: to uh to.

850
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 2: Look at the cup in the.

851
00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:54,080
Speaker 3: Nigga looked at the bottom of the cup.

852
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 2: I say something I love.

853
00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:58,120
Speaker 3: Hey there.

854
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:03,480
Speaker 1: We gonna maybe T Pain will be part of this

855
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:07,359
Speaker 1: Iard podcast family. But in the meantime, make sure y'all

856
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 1: tune into story Time with the legendary Jerry and I

857
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,200
Speaker 1: am signing off on behalf of New Face and T Pain.

858
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:14,840
Speaker 3: We out of here, baby.

859
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:41,600
Speaker 1: Sure shut ship my kniebles like h storytime Legendary Jerry,

860
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 1: I am Jerry Clark.

861
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:46,799
Speaker 3: And look at he look.

862
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:50,360
Speaker 1: I guess this week we gotta keep jumping in interrupting me.

863
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 1: But guess what we still gonead a special segment with

864
00:43:54,080 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 1: my brother new Face, New Face, do your thing, man,

865
00:43:57,800 --> 00:43:59,840
Speaker 1: oh man, because his brother right here is on that

866
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 1: not not.

867
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 4: But what like he's not involved to right what all

868
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 4: part took?

869
00:44:06,400 --> 00:44:06,720
Speaker 3: Jerry?

870
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:10,480
Speaker 2: This is a functioning, alcoholic functioning.

871
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:12,319
Speaker 3: I can still go to. I can still do what

872
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 3: I do.

873
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:17,719
Speaker 5: Oh god, Okay, like my brother Jerry said, first of all, Man,

874
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 5: thank you for joining the podcast Story Time with legendary Jerry.

875
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:22,240
Speaker 4: Uh.

876
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:24,279
Speaker 5: You know, I've been a fan and there's a lot

877
00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 5: of new Face was there moments And what I'm gonna

878
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 5: do is just go through my bag and we'll just

879
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:33,280
Speaker 5: bring out some of these early moments of your early beginning.

880
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:36,040
Speaker 5: So you know, just talk about like, you know, being

881
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:36,719
Speaker 5: fucking two live crew.

882
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 1: Bro.

883
00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 2: So is this two live crew? Is this the one

884
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:45,719
Speaker 2: with the you? So he remembers, Okay, it's.

885
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 3: Not, it's not camera and why and why?

886
00:44:48,920 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 2: All right?

887
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:51,120
Speaker 3: So like a class project.

888
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:57,279
Speaker 4: So I was how old did you ever see this

889
00:44:57,360 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 4: album cover?

890
00:44:58,360 --> 00:45:00,440
Speaker 2: I did see this album cover, but I thought this

891
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 2: was the one where you know what you remember when

892
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 2: Luke was under the cover in the nude and six

893
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:10,000
Speaker 2: and the nude and then you opened it and it

894
00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:15,360
Speaker 2: was him. There was not the cover there anymore. I

895
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 2: jacked off to that thing so much, and I know

896
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 2: all of y'all did too. Everybody, Hey, look again, I'm

897
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:27,720
Speaker 2: gonna say it again. I turned forty this year. Everybody

898
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:30,000
Speaker 2: that was my age when that fucking in the Nude

899
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 2: album came out. What do you you? You? You you?

900
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 2: You sit here and try to tell me you didn't

901
00:45:36,719 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 2: jack off to that, to that thing, to that thing

902
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:41,839
Speaker 2: your your older brother bought it and it was just

903
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 2: in the house because the CD was in the in

904
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 2: the sixth this CD changer in his car, so he

905
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:49,720
Speaker 2: left the he left the cover and ship in the house.

906
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 2: You looked at that thing like it was a goddamn J. C.

907
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 2: Penny's ad, and you touched yourself and the Lord saw you.

908
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 3: So because the law watches everything.

909
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:06,840
Speaker 4: That we're talking hometown, We're talking hometown.

910
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 3: Show the camera.

911
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:13,840
Speaker 2: Thugs are Us. Let me tell you something. See I

912
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 2: had to see that. This is crazy that Oh man,

913
00:46:16,760 --> 00:46:20,880
Speaker 2: how does these how does that work? I have a

914
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:24,440
Speaker 2: cassette player here because I actually just released a cassette

915
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:30,880
Speaker 2: last year, so I am Tugs Are Us. Was the

916
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 2: first time that I started paying attention to production because

917
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 2: there was something in this that I saw people really

918
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:44,960
Speaker 2: niggas this autographed? Oh yeah, that's what the New Face does.

919
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 3: That's when, Yeah, I was gonna say, you know, you

920
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:48,120
Speaker 3: must not know who New Face is.

921
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 2: Why would you give me this? You think you're getting

922
00:46:52,560 --> 00:47:04,399
Speaker 2: this niggas is really autograph? That? Okay, this was This

923
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:05,200
Speaker 2: was the first time.

924
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:12,759
Speaker 3: This is the first time somebody jacked your ship in

925
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:13,320
Speaker 3: your face.

926
00:47:14,120 --> 00:47:16,000
Speaker 2: So this is the first time I started paying attention

927
00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 2: to Yeah, what the to the segment?

928
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,440
Speaker 3: This is the first time I started You see, I lost.

929
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:37,040
Speaker 1: I said, pause, yeah, yeah, okay, hey that was I'm done.

930
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 3: I'm done.

931
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:41,360
Speaker 2: This is the first time I started paying attention to

932
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:45,360
Speaker 2: production because everybody around me I was liking something about

933
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 2: something with the breakdowns, and when certain things would happen

934
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 2: in songs, it would make people say certain parts of

935
00:47:53,200 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 2: the songs, and the way my brain works, I wanted

936
00:47:55,520 --> 00:47:58,360
Speaker 2: to sit and listen to the parts that people like,

937
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:02,920
Speaker 2: and I wanted to see what changed. And it's like,

938
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 2: oh the high hands dropped, the high had stopped on

939
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:08,719
Speaker 2: this part, uh, and or or there was more ad

940
00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 2: libs on this part than there was on other things.

941
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:14,879
Speaker 2: And then I started implementing that into my music and

942
00:48:15,560 --> 00:48:18,319
Speaker 2: trick Daddy THUGR was a big part of that. Another

943
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 2: one was the you know This. I can't remember which

944
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:26,799
Speaker 2: album was because it was a billion of them, the

945
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 2: two short album that came out the same time as this.

946
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you know what I mean. So it was

947
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 2: it was that, and I wanted to see how I

948
00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:37,919
Speaker 2: can implement all that stuff. And I was a DJ

949
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 2: at the time, so I was trying to figure out

950
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:43,080
Speaker 2: why the crowd reacted to certain parts of this of

951
00:48:43,160 --> 00:48:47,319
Speaker 2: this you know of this tape and uh yeah, I

952
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 2: implemented that into my music and it kind of I mean,

953
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 2: the formula work. So you're the worst, Oh my.

954
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 4: God, speaking of DJ.

955
00:48:55,800 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, we got this gentleman, congratulations low shout out.

956
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:04,360
Speaker 4: Diamonds. But we had.

957
00:49:05,719 --> 00:49:06,800
Speaker 2: Fat Monte.

958
00:49:08,040 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 3: Chubby Monte before Vegan.

959
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:14,040
Speaker 2: Now, so he's smaller than all of us.

960
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 5: So my question was, what did you know of the

961
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:19,120
Speaker 5: history and how did this relationship come to be where

962
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:22,760
Speaker 5: he was the manager of camp and that history.

963
00:49:22,800 --> 00:49:25,360
Speaker 2: Did you know that he's so big? I'm taking the

964
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:30,839
Speaker 2: picture of you. You got to so the very first time,

965
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:34,520
Speaker 2: so I was in a group called the Navyheads. The

966
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:42,279
Speaker 2: very first time, hilarious, the very first time that we

967
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:49,880
Speaker 2: performed in Atlanta was at the Atrium, Oh Memoria. Yeah,

968
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 2: so the very first time that we performed in Atlanta

969
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 2: as our group, and it was it was eight of us.

970
00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:58,439
Speaker 2: We're all and we all had verses on every song.

971
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 2: We had very terribly long songs. We read the atrium

972
00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:08,280
Speaker 2: and we were opening up for everybody on the OOT camp.

973
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:14,839
Speaker 2: So after the show, Monte came to us and said, hey,

974
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 2: y'all boys gonna be big. Y'all boy's gonna be huge.

975
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 2: But he was kind of saying he was kind of

976
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:28,879
Speaker 2: saying it straight to me. So just my chance. One day,

977
00:50:30,600 --> 00:50:32,880
Speaker 2: t Pain when I after I got on a C. Paine,

978
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:37,280
Speaker 2: I had a show in Atlanta and my DJ couldn't

979
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:40,000
Speaker 2: make it. My DJ had a previous engagement, and I

980
00:50:40,040 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 2: was like, well, I need a I need a DJ

981
00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 2: in Atlanta. I remember that one guy. Is he still

982
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:50,440
Speaker 2: doing ship? Because obviously as I'm t paying, I still

983
00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:53,799
Speaker 2: got you know, I got my Magnum with all the

984
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 2: fucking screens in it. The only thing I'm playing in

985
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 2: that bitch is DJ Jelly, DVDs.

986
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:00,719
Speaker 3: You know what I mean? You know what I mean?

987
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 2: You got TVs in your car? Are you not playing

988
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 2: DJ Jelly DVD's what's going on you? What are you doing?

989
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 2: Whack ass Washington d C. So anyways, so I'm like, oh,

990
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:18,440
Speaker 2: DJ Monte works out there. I mean, he can hit

991
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 2: a few buttons for me to be fucking cool.

992
00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:22,720
Speaker 3: Monte is dope.

993
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:25,319
Speaker 2: We got Monte to come do that show for me,

994
00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:27,440
Speaker 2: and he did so much more than just hiitting buttons,

995
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:31,520
Speaker 2: and I was like, Oh, the nigga that couldn't make it.

996
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 2: He gone. I was like, hey, bro, this is how

997
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:38,040
Speaker 2: I want my DJ to do all my shows. And

998
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:46,160
Speaker 2: then since then, I mean fucking what thirteen years and

999
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:49,840
Speaker 2: it's been that long and looked like two hundred and

1000
00:51:49,880 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 2: seventy pounds.

1001
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 1: Later, Hey boy, you got to take a picture of that.

1002
00:51:57,239 --> 00:52:00,040
Speaker 4: From the pages of Ozo, so we brought.

1003
00:51:59,840 --> 00:52:03,719
Speaker 3: The ship shout out Ozone magazine.

1004
00:52:04,040 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 5: Juliet Beverley, you look at these and if you were

1005
00:52:06,480 --> 00:52:10,879
Speaker 5: to talk to this tee pain and this, what would

1006
00:52:10,920 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 5: you say to this young guy, you know, looking back

1007
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:15,759
Speaker 5: hindsight twenty twenty, what would you say to this game?

1008
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:21,920
Speaker 2: Oh, this guy, this guy right here, what would you

1009
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:25,040
Speaker 2: say would I say to this guy right here? Condoms?

1010
00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:30,399
Speaker 2: Oh ship, huge, huge part of your life.

1011
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:37,359
Speaker 1: Riddy the he was the bear back raw king.

1012
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 2: Damn nah, but for real on this one, top hat,

1013
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:46,440
Speaker 2: this guy, this te paint right here, I'd be like, bro,

1014
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:50,080
Speaker 2: you need to you need to chill out. You need

1015
00:52:50,120 --> 00:52:51,840
Speaker 2: to chill out, and you need to you need to

1016
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:53,480
Speaker 2: pay attention to what's going on around here.

1017
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:54,320
Speaker 3: Mmmm.

1018
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:55,959
Speaker 6: Interesting, you need.

1019
00:52:55,880 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 2: To pay attention what's going on around here? I know

1020
00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:00,480
Speaker 2: these these images. Look at nigga that outside this, I'll

1021
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 2: signed that. What the fuck I do this?

1022
00:53:03,560 --> 00:53:08,239
Speaker 1: Come on, man, damn put some respect on ship my magazine.

1023
00:53:08,320 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 5: We see his name, he's made it a cover, and

1024
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:14,040
Speaker 5: we look inside and we have, you know, a nice

1025
00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 5: looks like a nice time.

1026
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 2: Not a condom inside.

1027
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:20,719
Speaker 6: Looks like a nice raw dog randy.

1028
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:26,200
Speaker 2: Condom? Insight. Where is that? I don't even even remember

1029
00:53:26,239 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 2: what I remember her? Oh I wanted to.

1030
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:33,000
Speaker 1: But I never said it. Don't say it, don't say it.

1031
00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:33,879
Speaker 2: I never knew name.

1032
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:36,759
Speaker 3: I know her.

1033
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 2: Oh it's a girl friend of you and that video.

1034
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 2: But no, I would just I would literally say to

1035
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:48,120
Speaker 2: that team paint, bro, man, if you only knew what

1036
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:52,399
Speaker 2: you could be doing, just you gotta calm down, man,

1037
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:55,520
Speaker 2: but keep having fun. But just when you wake up

1038
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 2: in the morning. Maybe maybe take that call, Let me

1039
00:53:58,280 --> 00:53:59,920
Speaker 2: take that call, Maybe check that email.

1040
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 5: Lastly, we have your you know, classics Jesus Christ in

1041
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:07,200
Speaker 5: the debut album.

1042
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:09,440
Speaker 2: You know what I hate about this right here? Talk

1043
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:15,080
Speaker 2: about this because everybody, everybody likes to talk about how

1044
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 2: the chains were fake. Oh oh they were, so there's

1045
00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:19,919
Speaker 2: no change there.

1046
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:25,239
Speaker 3: That's those they hold those on the shirt. Oh yeah,

1047
00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:25,840
Speaker 3: New Faith.

1048
00:54:26,000 --> 00:54:28,799
Speaker 2: Oh no, yeah, they're just printed on the shirt. So

1049
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:30,800
Speaker 2: everybody likes to talk about that. But here's what nobody

1050
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:34,720
Speaker 2: talks about. This suit jacket. I bought this suit jacket

1051
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:39,000
Speaker 2: twenty minutes before we started shooting because for some reason,

1052
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:42,400
Speaker 2: the clothes we ordered didn't show up to this shoot.

1053
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:47,440
Speaker 2: This suit jacket had a painting of Stevie Wonder on

1054
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:51,400
Speaker 2: the back, and we never showed the back of this

1055
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:54,920
Speaker 2: motherfucker suit jacket. I paid so much money for that

1056
00:54:54,920 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 2: guy I wanted. I took so many pictures.

1057
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 4: Didn't choose not one.

1058
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 2: You looking they was blind to the Stevie.

1059
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:05,360
Speaker 4: One was.

1060
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:07,800
Speaker 3: He was looking back at it.

1061
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:13,040
Speaker 2: Look I was looking back at it. My jacket was

1062
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:16,760
Speaker 2: busting it open. Here we got it, and y'all niggas

1063
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:19,480
Speaker 2: never used the picture. And then and here I am

1064
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:20,240
Speaker 2: in anymore.

1065
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:22,680
Speaker 3: That's Jive Records dropped the ball on.

1066
00:55:22,680 --> 00:55:24,920
Speaker 2: That Jive Record dropped the ball. He got Steve one

1067
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:29,800
Speaker 2: on the back of him. He's a real change and

1068
00:55:29,880 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 2: knows a real he got a real change.

1069
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:35,239
Speaker 5: And lastly, your your famous to to your shoe. We

1070
00:55:35,360 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 5: got the famous we got, we got wiscans famous tour got.

1071
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 5: This was the debut one I went with my guys

1072
00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:46,719
Speaker 5: from eighty Fat that is that is damn you know.

1073
00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:48,919
Speaker 3: New Face was We're gonna be there this year. New Face,

1074
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:51,640
Speaker 3: y'all gotta be there pocket.

1075
00:55:55,600 --> 00:56:03,640
Speaker 1: Like edit edit That're like, okay, podcast gonna be there.

1076
00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:14,880
Speaker 2: Nah. But that first, that first tour and festival was

1077
00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:21,200
Speaker 2: probably what made me realize that I can control my destiny.

1078
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 2: I am in charge of my life. I know exactly

1079
00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:27,400
Speaker 2: what this is because even before that, the tour that

1080
00:56:27,440 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 2: I tried to put on before that, I had to

1081
00:56:29,239 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 2: cancel it because of low ticket sales. Exactly, Y don't

1082
00:56:34,200 --> 00:56:36,160
Speaker 2: even know I had a tour before that. I had

1083
00:56:36,160 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 2: a tour right before that, and I had to cancel

1084
00:56:38,680 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 2: it because of low ticket sales. And I put that

1085
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:46,279
Speaker 2: video out to where and my manager at the time

1086
00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:50,319
Speaker 2: was like, if you tell the truth about why you're

1087
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 2: not going on tour. You're going to destroy your career.

1088
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:57,319
Speaker 2: And I said, I that's fine, it's already well guess what.

1089
00:56:58,000 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 2: The fact that I can't sell tickets, it's already destroyer.

1090
00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:04,080
Speaker 2: So I'm telling the truth. He was like, you need

1091
00:57:04,120 --> 00:57:06,200
Speaker 2: to say that you're having family issues or something like that.

1092
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:09,840
Speaker 2: I'm like, nah, bro, we didn't promote it, and he

1093
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 2: didn't promote it, and I don't have a manage.

1094
00:57:11,960 --> 00:57:13,879
Speaker 3: So I was and get your own tour.

1095
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 2: So I was like, bro, I was like on the video,

1096
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:20,360
Speaker 2: I was like, I, but we haven't sold tickets. The

1097
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:22,880
Speaker 2: rooms are going to be empty, blah blah blah. And

1098
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:26,479
Speaker 2: everybody was like, I had no idea you were even

1099
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:29,680
Speaker 2: going on tour. And this obviously because it's so negative,

1100
00:57:30,040 --> 00:57:32,720
Speaker 2: it's spread it on all the blogs and everybody was like, oh,

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Speaker 2: should ain't even know? He needs to promote this better,

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00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:36,600
Speaker 2: he needs to do this, he needs to do that.

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00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:39,920
Speaker 2: I took all that information and I promoted my first

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00:57:40,080 --> 00:57:44,280
Speaker 2: was Cancer tour and it sold out immediately, the whole tour,

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00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:49,480
Speaker 2: the festival, everything sold out immediately. This dates then and

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00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 2: now and this ain't even this is light now we're

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00:57:52,040 --> 00:57:56,040
Speaker 2: doing thirty one dates on this tour and we just

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00:57:56,240 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 2: announced it and it's already halfway sold out, and it's.

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Speaker 1: Congratulations three months paying congratulations on that, you know what

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Speaker 1: I mean.

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Speaker 2: So it's on some when you take control of your life, man,

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00:58:07,400 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 2: and when you really got when you really have say

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00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:12,560
Speaker 2: so in your business, and when you really are independent

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00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:16,240
Speaker 2: for real. Uh, it's a different toll, you know, at

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00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:19,680
Speaker 2: the the you know. And I would say to that

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00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:23,000
Speaker 2: to to any independent artists that I'm respiring right now.

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00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:28,800
Speaker 2: It is great to have that aspiration and the highs

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00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:32,640
Speaker 2: feel so high, But god damn, do the loads feel

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00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 2: low because now you ain't got nobody to blame anything on.

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00:58:37,040 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 2: Now it's just you. Now, it's just you. Something fails,

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00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:43,160
Speaker 2: it fails, but you do have the power to turn

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00:58:43,240 --> 00:58:47,040
Speaker 2: that failure into something greater. And I think that's more

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00:58:47,120 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 2: powerful than just saying, oh, my manager fucked this up,

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Speaker 2: or my label. Oh you know how labels are like nah,

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00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:56,800
Speaker 2: Like all right, I fucked that up. But guess what

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Speaker 2: I'm about to fix it. I'm about to do something

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00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:01,360
Speaker 2: about it, you know what I mean. Everybody can complain

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00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:03,160
Speaker 2: about their managers and labels and shit.

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00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:03,480
Speaker 3: Like that.

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00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:06,520
Speaker 2: But when it's all you, you have a different kind of

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00:59:06,520 --> 00:59:09,160
Speaker 2: responsibility to get off your ass. Maybe you have to

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00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:11,520
Speaker 2: do something different than what you did, But the fact

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00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:13,640
Speaker 2: is that you can do that in a split second.

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00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:17,400
Speaker 2: You don't have to wait, you don't have to ask,

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00:59:18,040 --> 00:59:20,080
Speaker 2: you don't have to get permission, you don't have to

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00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:23,240
Speaker 2: do any of that. It's literally your decision in that

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00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:27,000
Speaker 2: split second, and you can change that shit. And it's

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00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:29,360
Speaker 2: and it's and it And the crazy thing about it is,

1139
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:33,760
Speaker 2: as you've seen it, don't take money. It doesn't, it doesn't.

1140
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:38,280
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter how much money that these labels have.

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00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:42,080
Speaker 2: You can see Universal now laid off University with the

1142
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:45,320
Speaker 2: layoffs University with the layfs. Theyre laying off two hundred

1143
00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:48,320
Speaker 2: and sixteen million dollars worth of jobs. That's because they

1144
00:59:48,360 --> 00:59:52,720
Speaker 2: figured out, we don't need them, don't need this because

1145
00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:58,160
Speaker 2: motherfuckers is doing what they're doing for zero dollars. It's

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00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:01,800
Speaker 2: little kids out here promoting a shows on Instagram for

1147
01:00:01,920 --> 01:00:04,560
Speaker 2: no money and all they gotta do is tag t

1148
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Speaker 2: pain and make this fucking red dot come up. What

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Speaker 2: is that? Stop? I'm not coming, I'm not perfect. Way

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Speaker 2: to call back on.

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Speaker 5: Behalf of story Time with legend j j my brother

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Speaker 5: Jerry Clark t Pain. It's the honored new face has

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Speaker 5: been there doing your journey. It's proud to see it

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Speaker 5: your evolution. A lot of shows. Shout out to my

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Speaker 5: brother d J monte Man. You know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 5: but I want to say thank you for being.

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Speaker 2: So getting honored. Birthday Mas big time. I love that.

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Speaker 5: Ship man, so thank you for all you doing. Can't

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Speaker 5: wait to be me and Jerry at the show.

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Speaker 3: The Way Look Vegas.

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Speaker 1: Jerry Right, yeah, We're definitely gonna be in the Vegas

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