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Speaker 1: Welcome in. It is a Wednesday. We've got breaking news.

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Speaker 1: We have a trade, and it's a big one in

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Speaker 1: the NFL. Trent McDuffie an elite corner, and there's one

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Speaker 1: or two holes for the LA Rams. Special teams needed

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Speaker 1: to be upgraded. They'll do that in the and they

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Speaker 1: need a lockdown corner. They're GM less need even discussed

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Speaker 1: it earlier this week. And what do you know, They've

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Speaker 1: made a deal with the Kansas City Chiefs. Striking when

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Speaker 1: the iron is hot, Matt Stafford only a couple of

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Speaker 1: years left. They're going to give up a first rounder

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Speaker 1: a six and a third rounder next year. So Trent McDuffie,

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Speaker 1: in my opinion, because the Rams pass rush is better

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Speaker 1: better player. And he was a good one for KC.

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Speaker 1: He'll be an even better player for the Rams. So

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Speaker 1: the Rams said, hey, man, we are in a super

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Speaker 1: Bowl window. We are going to go for it. And

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Speaker 1: Trent McDuffie is a lot better than the twenty ninth

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Speaker 1: pick because the Rams have two first round picks that

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Speaker 1: it just gave up one. Here's another team that should

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Speaker 1: do that, the Chicago Bears. They are now this morning

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Speaker 1: the odds on favorite design Raiders edge rusher Max Crosby.

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Speaker 1: Go for it. Ben Johnson's an aggressive guy, Ryan Polls

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Speaker 1: an aggressive GM. Go for it. It's the number one

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Speaker 1: need edge pressure. It's not a roll of the dice.

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Speaker 1: He's an elite player, leads the NFL since he entered

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Speaker 1: in tackles for losses. He's two years younger than Miles Garrett,

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Speaker 1: who was just, you know, the defensive player of the year.

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Speaker 1: And here's another reason why you have to strike when

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Speaker 1: the iron is hot in the NFL. Yesterday, the Bears

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Speaker 1: all pro center Drew Dolman, who they just paid a

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Speaker 1: fortune do last year, retired at twenty seven. He's like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: And so the Bears with Caleb Williams were the number

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Speaker 1: Falcons that they made a deal for a year ago.

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Speaker 1: Drew Dolmen, he just retired and so he only got

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Speaker 1: two years left. With Caleb Williams on the rookie deal,

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Speaker 1: he's going to get expensive real quick. And here's another

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Speaker 1: example of what being passive does in the NFL. Did

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Speaker 1: you see this story yesterday the goofy Cincinnati Bengals let

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Speaker 1: Trey Hendrickson walk. Well, they've been talking about a new

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Speaker 1: contract for two years. They don't sign him. They're passive,

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Speaker 1: they don't trade him, and they just let him walk

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Speaker 1: out the door. They get nothing for him. What are

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Speaker 1: you doing? So Kansas City in a similar situation where

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Speaker 1: they have to rebuild parts of their team. They need

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Speaker 3: He's one of the best in the league, one of

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Speaker 1: Chicago Bears. Rams just did it this morning. Hey, Matt Stafford,

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Speaker 1: a great corner. Okay, so this week now there are

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Speaker 1: those who said we were just trying to stoke the

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Speaker 1: been saying the honeymoon is over for Luca with the Lakers.

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Speaker 1: Remember when Ad came to the Lakers. The first year

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Speaker 1: they win the COVID Championship. Oh, it was all Bouquet's flowers, rainbows.

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Speaker 1: Next year he comes in out of shape. He was

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Speaker 1: So Luca last year working out in the off season.

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Speaker 1: defensively there's just limitations and shortcomings. He also has to

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Speaker 1: view everything because they're not a championship team this year

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Speaker 1: through the prism of what can we surround Luka Donzich

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Speaker 1: he'll elevate himself. He doesn't need offensive elevation. He's got

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Speaker 1: the roster they construct for him, because remember, superstars in

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Speaker 1: Magic Johnson not a great defender, So the Lakers gave

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Speaker 1: up Norm Nixon, a multiple time All Star, for Michael Cooper.

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Speaker 1: that's what Magic needed. They let go of a more

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Speaker 1: control and facilitate the offense with Luca rim protectors. Remember

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Speaker 1: got like PJ. Washington, not a great player, but a big,

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Speaker 1: long rim defender Boom. Luca was never happier. So as

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Speaker 1: far as the you know that little confrontation on the sideline.

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Speaker 1: JJ Reddick says, no big deal at all.

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Speaker 5: Those things happen, you know, not every came, but they

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Speaker 5: happen very frequently, and you know sometimes you have to

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Speaker 5: rehash them with a player or you know, as a teammate.

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Speaker 5: Sometimes it happens player to player. It just it's it's

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Speaker 5: a competition, and you know, there's two guys here who,

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Speaker 5: and be on the same page about stuff.

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Speaker 1: Luca's going to get much happier when we stopped talking

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Speaker 1: about his defensive liabilities because right now, the Lakers roster

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Speaker 1: and it's not Lucas's fault or Lebron's fault doesn't protect either,

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Speaker 1: it really does. It just shines a light and it

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Speaker 1: puts a magnifying glass on his weakness because the Lakers

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Speaker 1: now are just a bunch of lobsided players who need

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Speaker 1: We've got ourselves. Our first big free agent trade came

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Speaker 1: Rams are giving up a first, a fifth, and a

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Speaker 1: sixth and a third next not the hole for Trent McDuffie,

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Speaker 1: top five or six corner in the NFL, who will

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Speaker 1: now go to the Rams with a more consistent pass rush.

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Speaker 1: He'll be the highest paid at this point, probably highest

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Speaker 1: paid defensive player they have. They're going to work in

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Speaker 1: a new deal. But I think what the Rams are

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Speaker 1: sending the bat signal is we're going for it. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna have to start paying some of these defensive guys

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Speaker 1: in the next three years. We're going for it. Matt

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Speaker 1: Stafford getting closer to forty. I think Caleb Williams two

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Speaker 1: years left on the rookie deal. Max Crosby the betting favorite,

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Speaker 1: he'll be a bear Poles, Ben Johnson hyper aggressive guys.

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Speaker 1: I'd love to see him go for it. What do

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Speaker 1: you make of the Rams chiefsare What does it say

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Speaker 1: about the Kansas City Chiefs? J?

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Speaker 6: Mack Yeah, Kansas City essentially Colin The Chiefs just don't

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Speaker 6: have a lot of talent on that roster.

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Speaker 7: I mean, we talked about this for a couple months now.

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Speaker 6: Imagine going through your roster, free agencies coming up, You're

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Speaker 6: up against the cap and you're like, damn, we just

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Speaker 6: we can't pay McDuffie.

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Speaker 7: We need talent we.

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Speaker 6: Got to trade him. They got a good haul. I

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Speaker 6: would say it's a good pick for the Chiefs, But Colin,

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Speaker 6: you look at that defense in the youth and the

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Speaker 6: lack of talent. I mean, are they a top three

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Speaker 6: or four team in the AFC? I know, just with

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Speaker 6: Mahomes and Reid, you're a contender, But.

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Speaker 1: I don't think they're a top two roster in their

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Speaker 6: I don't think that's a hot take either. I mean, listen,

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Speaker 6: it's a good trade for them.

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Speaker 7: They need picks.

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Speaker 6: They certainly got that. I think the Rams is a

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Speaker 6: home run because I was just looking at their lineup.

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Speaker 1: Lake.

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Speaker 6: You know, the Quinton Lake who was injured last season.

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Speaker 6: He was kind of a chess piece that played a

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Speaker 6: lot of safety, but a lot of in the slot too.

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Speaker 6: He can now go back to roaming a safety. McDuffie

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Speaker 6: slides into slot. I think this is huge for the Rams.

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Speaker 6: They've got to be the Super Bowl favorites at this point, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 6: we also two time All Pro you're getting.

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Speaker 1: Well, we're getting ready for March Madness. Saint John's has

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Speaker 1: very fun because you know, we were talking about this

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Speaker 9: Well, I guess it would come down to what's the

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Speaker 1: Right So, I think last time I had you on,

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Speaker 9: But it would have to go back to the Kareem days,

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Speaker 9: Well, I like European basketball players because they passed, they cut,

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Speaker 9: Okay, let's go to a different school next year, because

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Speaker 9: it out where you're at and play for tom Izzo

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Speaker 1: You know, Rick, it's pretty amazing. You've got players from

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Speaker 1: How do you tie the string and make it work?

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Speaker 9: One week link kills your defense. I have a young

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Speaker 9: I don't care if you do it in Greek. Open

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so we're a couple of weeks away from March Madness.

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Speaker 1: The old cliche is it's guard play, and and you

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Speaker 9: I didn't think I was going to get back in

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Speaker 4: So it's all changed.

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Speaker 9: But you have to change with the times because it's

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Speaker 9: all different, no different than the NFL.

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Speaker 4: The way the NFL game is played.

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Speaker 9: He used to be running back off tackle, Jim Brown

436
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Speaker 9: running off tackle and taking people with him. And now

437
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Speaker 9: it's wide outs more than anything else. So all the

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Speaker 9: sports change. The coaches that don't want to change get out.

439
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Speaker 9: And I wasn't ready to get out because they took

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Speaker 9: two years off and my golf wasn't very good some

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Speaker 9: of the things.

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Speaker 4: Going to the racetrack.

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Speaker 9: I was losing too much money, so I like to

444
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Speaker 9: keep the money in my pocket and coach basketball.

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Speaker 1: Were you betting the ponies in Greece, by the way.

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Speaker 4: No, No, this is in Miami.

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Speaker 9: I was going to once or twice a week to

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Speaker 9: Gulf Stream and giving my deposit to them to keep

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Speaker 9: the economy moving.

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Speaker 1: Beautiful part of Florida. By the way, Rick has always

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Speaker 1: an absolute pleasure, great stuff. Good luck to Saint John's.

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Speaker 4: Thanks Calin good speaking with you.

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Speaker 1: All right, always entertaining. I mean, he's just got great energy.

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Speaker 1: It's like, you can see why I can recruit. He's

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Speaker 1: got great energy. I love he's got players from Ghana overseas,

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Speaker 1: He's got players from here. That's fun. J Mack. Got

457
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Speaker 1: to hit your free throws, cross the t's, dot the

458
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Speaker 1: eyes and hit your free thro You know, you glean

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Speaker 1: any information for your tournament.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm gonna fade his gambling ponies picks and become

461
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Speaker 6: extremely wealthy. I will say, you're port about the energy.

462
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Speaker 6: I wanted to look up his age. Seventy three years old.

463
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Speaker 6: That's impressive. You know a lot of our elected officials

464
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Speaker 6: they get a late seventies and.

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Speaker 7: It's like, oh boy, here we go. This guy at

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Speaker 7: seventy three. He's still got it. N same, John's not

467
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Speaker 7: a bad team this year.

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Speaker 1: No, it's not bad at all. They split with Yukon. Indeed,

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Speaker 1: there you go, we got a lot of stuff. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I got top of next hour, not messing around. Very

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Speaker 1: excited for this my mock draft. I fired up. I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna throw you a curveball at the number two picked

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Speaker 1: and that makes a lot of sense. Don't scoff the

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Speaker 1: number two. So if you believe what you're reading on

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Speaker 1: these mock drafts, I'll tell you what the Jets are

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Speaker 1: going to do and what they should do. That's coming up.

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Speaker 1: Here we go our three Albert Breer in fifteen minutes

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Speaker 1: five in Chicago. It is the Herd. Big trade today.

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Speaker 1: Rams give up a first to fifth, the sixth and

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Speaker 1: a third next year to get elite corner Trent McDuffie

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Speaker 1: the big hole, as jsaid and the Seahawks had their

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Speaker 1: way with that. Rams cornerback secondary group, and the Chiefs

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Speaker 1: are in a competitive rebuild, not a traditional rebuild, but

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Speaker 1: they get a first, a fifth to sixth and Kansas

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Speaker 1: City with two first round picks. I think they have

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Speaker 1: to address right tackle and then probably corner it's a

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Speaker 1: good offensive tackle draft in the first two rounds, and

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Speaker 1: it's a decent corner draft in the first round. So

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Speaker 1: there you go. So, now this is not a traditional

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Speaker 1: mock draft. They do this every year. I do one

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Speaker 1: where you know, I try to guess what teams do.

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Speaker 1: But my take is I don't know nobody does outside

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Speaker 1: of the number one pick. This year, everybody knows that.

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Speaker 1: So I am going to draft based on what I

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Speaker 1: would do as general manager, and I think it will

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Speaker 1: look mostly like the first fifteen picks. I'm gonna go

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Speaker 1: fifteen picks. So let's start with the number one pick.

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Speaker 1: That's the easiest one. The Raiders need a quarterback. Fernando

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Speaker 1: Mendoza is easily the best quarterback prospect. Is a Matt

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Speaker 1: Ryan plus Heisman winner sixteen to zero, a non traditional power,

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Speaker 1: big arm, moves well, humble, gratitude, and you get that

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Speaker 1: rookie quarterback contract for the next four to five years.

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Speaker 1: So that's the easy one. He goes number one. My

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Speaker 1: second pick is a little different than everybody else's.

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Speaker 4: Mom.

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Speaker 1: I think the Jets draft David Bailey the best pure edge.

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Speaker 1: He'll walk into the Jets. On one side, you'll have

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Speaker 1: Will McDonald On the other it's David Bail. I hear

512
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Speaker 1: about rvel Rees. Rvel Rees projects as an edge rusher.

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Speaker 1: I don't trust the Jets to get that right. This

514
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Speaker 1: guy is a plug play guy. He will be starting

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Speaker 1: the first week. David Bailey from Texas Tech. He went

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Speaker 1: to Stanford, then he was on the market. Texas Tech

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Speaker 1: got out the wallet. He is an immediate play Day

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Speaker 1: one edge rusher Number three Arizona. I think Arizona should

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Speaker 1: call on Fernando Mendoza, but they're all line is a wreck.

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Speaker 1: They have a new offensive coach. What a offensive coach

521
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Speaker 1: is like Ben Johnson? Do solve the offensive line? Francis

522
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Speaker 1: Mawiinoah from Miami. He can play interior or tackle. They

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Speaker 1: may use him at both. The Cardinals had the twenty

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Speaker 1: six ranked offensive line. He has slid and run in

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Speaker 1: pass blocking and offensive coach. They've got receivers and backs

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Speaker 1: and tight ends. They have got to get that O

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Speaker 1: line solved. Whether Jacoby Brissett or rumor Jimmy Garoppolo is

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Speaker 1: the quarterback. Number four rvel Reees now again, many have

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Speaker 1: him at two to the Jets. I don't trust the Jets.

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Speaker 1: I do trust Robert Sala to use him in maybe

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Speaker 1: a little bit of a hybrid Fred Warner, Nick Bosa

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Speaker 1: roll I trust. I think he's just too talented to fall.

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Speaker 1: And again he's six four two forty four to four.

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Speaker 1: Titans only had one player with more than five sacks

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Speaker 1: last year, so I think he's just two talented for

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Speaker 1: Robert Solid to pass on. They've got their quarterback and

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Speaker 1: they've got other needs, but I think they go get

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Speaker 1: the Ohio State Edge Number five Giants. This is a

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Speaker 1: good pick for them. They need secondary help. Caleb Downs

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Speaker 1: best safety in the draft. I mean, you know, he's

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Speaker 1: pretty good in coverage. You can bring him as you

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Speaker 1: see here on blitzes like Nick Ahman Warri who went

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Speaker 1: to the Seahawks second round out of South Carolina. He's

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Speaker 1: a tremendous player. John Harbaugh is gonna love him. You

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Speaker 1: can play him probably special teams in defense. Day one

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Speaker 1: ranked Giants were an atrocious team last year, thirty first

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Speaker 1: against the run. This kid didn't even have to perform

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Speaker 1: at the combine. He is that good. Giants, who I

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Speaker 1: have projected is winning their division. Get the number one

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Speaker 1: back end defensive player in the draft. Caleb Downs another

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Speaker 1: Buckeye Number six Cleveland Browns. Carnel Tate played at Ohio State.

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Speaker 1: Their receiving course a mess. Shador Sanders probably get and

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Speaker 1: Shador sand capable of throwing the ball down the field,

554
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Speaker 1: but Jerry Judy is inconsistent, drop issues, maturity issues. Carneal

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Speaker 1: Taate kind of feels like a can't miss guy to me,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think there's many can't miss guys

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Speaker 1: in the draft. I can't believe it. If not for Cleveland,

558
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Speaker 1: somebody else, A lot of Buckeyes at the top. I

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Speaker 1: think he walks in Jerry Judy one side, Carnell Tait

560
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Speaker 1: on the other. They had an atroci. I mean, their

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Speaker 1: leading receiver last year was a rookie tight end from

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Speaker 1: Bowling Green, Carnell Tate to the Browns. Number seven. Best

563
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Speaker 1: corner in the draft is out of Lsu Mansour Delane.

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Speaker 1: I think the Commanders, who have many issues, they were

565
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Speaker 1: a really bad team. Was Washington against the pass? He

566
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Speaker 1: excels outside the numbers in man coverage. I mean Lsu

567
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Speaker 1: has always been a cornerback in a wide receiver factory,

568
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Speaker 1: great instincts, excellent lane. Best corner in the draft for

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Speaker 1: a team Washington that needs it. He goes at seven,

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Speaker 1: number eight. Tighter shuck was surprising good for the Saints

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Speaker 1: rookie quarterback, second round pick. I think they get Jeremiah Love.

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Speaker 1: He's the Jamiir Gibbs of this draft, a home run hitter.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Alvin Kamara is now thirty and rush for

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Speaker 1: under five hundred yards. And they were not a good

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Speaker 1: run team. They were near the bottom twenty eighth in

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Speaker 1: the NFL against the run. So Love is a again

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Speaker 1: like David Bailey at number two. He's a plug and

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Speaker 1: play guy. Put him in run game with a second

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Speaker 1: year quarterback they couldn't run last year. Alvin Kamara is aging.

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Speaker 1: He goes to the Saints at eight, number nine. The Chiefs,

581
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Speaker 1: who made that trend McDuffie trade with the Rams. Today

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Speaker 1: they have two first rounders. I think the Chiefs go

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Speaker 1: and get Spencer Finot out of Utah right tackle, so

584
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Speaker 1: they've got their left tackle. They don't have a right tackle.

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Speaker 1: He was. I mean, Utah has arguably two of the

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Speaker 1: best tackles in the whole draft. They were twenty fifth

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Speaker 1: and rushing twenty eighth in pressure, so they've They've got

588
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Speaker 1: a lot of needs right now in Kansas City. But

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Speaker 1: I think Number one is protecting Patrick Mahomes and getting

590
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 1: that running game going. So if love falls to them,

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Speaker 1: I could see them taking love from Notre Dame. If not,

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Speaker 1: they'll go with a right tackle from Utah. Number ten Cincinnati,

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Speaker 1: My guess is they'll take a buck guy, Sunny Styles,

594
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 1: who had an unbelievable combine. Trey Hendrickson's out the door.

595
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 1: He's he can play. I mean, Sonny Styles is one

596
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Speaker 1: of those guys. He was a combined monster. You know,

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Speaker 1: on any other team he would have been the best

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Speaker 1: player easily, but on Ohio State he's a third or

599
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Speaker 1: fourth best player. You know, six' five two forty, five

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Speaker 1: runs a four to. Four you, know Typical buckeye, elite

601
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Speaker 1: five star level. Talent SO i think he stays in.

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Speaker 1: State number Eleven, Dolphins Ruben, BAIN i think drops To.

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Speaker 1: MIAMI i think they'll have some pressure to go get

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00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 1: a guy with short arms, historically but he's just a

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Speaker 1: ball or he's a, player and The hurricane fan base

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Speaker 1: is going to absolutely love. This miami doesn't get pressure

607
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 1: on the. Quarterback they were twenty fifth in THE nfl

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00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 1: last year and getting pressure on the. Quarterback and you,

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Speaker 1: KNOW i don't know how Good Ruben bain is with

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Speaker 1: the arm, issue BUT i know every TIME i Watched miami,

611
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 1: play he was, unblockable a relentless, player kind of A

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00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 1: Max crosby, engine kind of a game changer up. Front

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Speaker 1: SO i Think miami grabs him at number, twelve AND

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Speaker 1: i think this will be one of the early steals

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Speaker 1: in the. Draft The Dallas cowboys will Get Keldrick fulk From,

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Speaker 1: auburn a great character. Guy just gotten. Me was like

617
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Speaker 1: ALL sec freshman. Team he's been good for years At,

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Speaker 1: auburn very good against the, run character guy in the,

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Speaker 1: building AND i think they're sensitive to that In dallas

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Speaker 1: BECAUSE i, think you, Know Dak, prescott high character, guy

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Speaker 1: has always been somebody That Jerry jones. Liked Micah parsons

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Speaker 1: viewed is a little Into. Micah this kid is. Great

623
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Speaker 1: they need an edge. Rusher he can defend the run

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00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 1: in the. Past he's a, grinder he's a character. GUY

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Speaker 1: i think he goes to The cowboys and they get

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Speaker 1: themselves a little bit of a first round steal number

627
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Speaker 1: Thirteen La. RAMS i think they Go Mackay. Lemon now

628
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:15,799
Speaker 1: they've got needs at, tackle But lemon can solve two.

629
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Speaker 1: Issues Davonte adams is thirty, three so he's the heir

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00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:23,239
Speaker 1: apparent To Devonte. Adams this kid is. Unbelievable if he

631
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Speaker 1: gets his hand on, it he catches. It you, know

632
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:29,399
Speaker 1: there's a lot of these recruits that don't pan. Out

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00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 1: he has been sensational and over delivered for The, trojans

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00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:38,399
Speaker 1: AND i think Between Devonte adams, age they also want

635
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:42,280
Speaker 1: to clean up their punt. Returning he's got impeccable, hands

636
00:34:44,520 --> 00:34:47,840
Speaker 1: almost one hundred yards per game for The. Trojans number.

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Speaker 1: FOURTEEN i think The ravens they're gonna have to Pay Lamar.

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00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:55,680
Speaker 1: Jackson they get to find some guys on that offense

639
00:34:55,680 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 1: that don't cost. Much Kenyon sadiq From, oregon who just

640
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,319
Speaker 1: had the fastest forty time ever for a tight. End

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00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 1: he's a little, undersized but Remember Isaiah likely The ravens

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00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:10,880
Speaker 1: tight end is a free. Agent Mark andrews is getting,

643
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:14,320
Speaker 1: older and they were top three in THE nfl in twelve.

644
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 1: Personnel they like to use multiple tight ends, it you,

645
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,080
Speaker 1: know The rams, do The ravens.

646
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 2: Do.

647
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 1: SO i think The oregon tight end who's undersized but

648
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:26,879
Speaker 1: a little bit of a. Bully he's hard to hard

649
00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 1: matchup for corners and. Safeties he goes to The ravens

650
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 1: and number fifteen The Tapa Bay. Buccaneers they've got several

651
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:38,440
Speaker 1: needs edge, rusher among Them TEXAS a AND. M Casius

652
00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:42,279
Speaker 1: howell first Team All american At TEXAS a AND. M

653
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 1: it is a good edge rusher. Draft he is a

654
00:35:46,040 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 1: need of which they. Have you, know they have a

655
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 1: need at, corner, linebacker. Edge they got to rebuild that.

656
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 1: Defense so there is my first fifteen, Draft Jay. MACK i,

657
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 1: KNOW i don't buy the Jet s're moving up to

658
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 1: take Ty simpson even later in the first. ROUND i

659
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 1: think Ty simpson goes to The steelers. Later any big

660
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:07,319
Speaker 1: pushback on, This.

661
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 7: OKAY i was taking notes. Throughout let's start With dallas And.

662
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 7: FALK i like.

663
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:14,880
Speaker 6: That but we did see a report That jerry was

664
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,879
Speaker 6: interested In Max crosby by Pegging falk.

665
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 7: Here do you think that means they do not go

666
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 7: After Max.

667
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,439
Speaker 1: Crosby, WELL i think they got a lot of mouse

668
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 1: defeat dash. Contracts top of the Market Ceedee lamb talk

669
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,640
Speaker 1: about of the, market franchise Tag peggan's talk of the.

670
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 1: Market by the, way the cap hit For Kenny clark

671
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 1: And Quinnin williams is not going. Backwards, yeah so there's

672
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 1: a lot of mouse to feed, here AND i think

673
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 1: it is a good edge. DRAFT i would go in that.

674
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 6: Direction, okay So Sonny styles to The, bengals he is

675
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,800
Speaker 6: the toughest guy to project. You people are going. Crazy

676
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 6: they've got what people are calling combine. Fever, right so

677
00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:52,040
Speaker 6: you watch the, combine you see the, stats everybody gets. Excited,

678
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:55,320
Speaker 6: meanwhile turn back the clock during the, Season Sonny, south

679
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 6: he was very. Good he wasn't like top fifteen as a,

680
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:00,560
Speaker 6: player and you don't take linebacker's that.

681
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 7: High The bengals need, defense do you go?

682
00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,480
Speaker 1: Linebacker, WELL i will say, THIS i have both The

683
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:10,080
Speaker 1: browns and The bengals drafting kids that played their college

684
00:37:10,080 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 1: football in State. AH i can see The bengals saying

685
00:37:14,719 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 1: he's A, buckeye.

686
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 7: He's A dolphins guy.

687
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 1: FAN i could See cincinnati doing. That, plus when you

688
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 1: Lose Trey, hendrickson you know your best athlete on. DEFENSE

689
00:37:24,680 --> 00:37:27,319
Speaker 1: i Think styles is a looks the, part you, know

690
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:30,840
Speaker 1: All american in the hotel, lobby guy who just keeps getting,

691
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 1: better crushed it at the. COMBINE i mean combine still

692
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 1: has some, value SO i COULD i See cincinnati And

693
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 1: Carnell tait. Similarly there's not a lot of can't miss.

694
00:37:39,760 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 1: GUY i can't See Carnell tate not working in THE.

695
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 1: Nfl AND i Think cleveland's receiving Core Jerry judy one

696
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 1: good rookie tight end and not much. ELSE i think

697
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 1: they'll Give shador a good. Teammate, okay so two more

698
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:55,320
Speaker 1: real quick so actually? Three So sidiq to The.

699
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,920
Speaker 6: Ravens The ravens are moving Off isaiah Likely they've still

700
00:37:57,960 --> 00:37:58,359
Speaker 6: Got Mark.

701
00:37:58,400 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 7: Andrews a lot of.

702
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:04,800
Speaker 6: Needs on, defense, absolutely And Jesse mintter new head, coach defensive,

703
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 6: guy and you have them going tight.

704
00:38:06,080 --> 00:38:12,839
Speaker 1: END i think they have several. Needs, YEAH i think

705
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 1: they like the back end of their. DEFENSE i think

706
00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 1: they kind of liked their pass. Rush but let's be,

707
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 1: honest As lamar last year did not have the same. Electricity,

708
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:29,799
Speaker 1: yeah and it's, Like, okay we need more Z A, Flowers,

709
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:34,400
Speaker 1: Sadique Mark, ANDREWS i think you got to. GIVE i

710
00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 1: don't Think, lamar from WHAT i could, tell last year

711
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 1: didn't look like the Old. Lamar he's becoming more of

712
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 1: a pocket threat on consistent basis than a running.

713
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:46,560
Speaker 7: Threat, okay and Then.

714
00:38:46,719 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 6: Rams so they've only had one draft that they've used

715
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:53,600
Speaker 6: in like the last ten to Fifteen Jared, versus who

716
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 6: was a superstar can't. Miss would you Put lemon in

717
00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:01,400
Speaker 6: that kind of? CATEGORY i, mean, like so that's What rams.

718
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 1: ARE a tough. One pooka gets dinged up a, lot that's.

719
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 1: Indisputable he's, great but gets dinged. Up adams was hurt

720
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:12,520
Speaker 1: last year as. Well now that's why some suspect they

721
00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 1: went into so much twelve personnel Because puka was dinged

722
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 1: Up cooper when he got, old he's now he got dinged.

723
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 1: Up they have, struggled you, know keeping the same wide receiver,

724
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:29,360
Speaker 1: rotation not running, back not tight. End and he also

725
00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 1: solves the punt returning. Need that's a big problem for

726
00:39:34,000 --> 00:39:36,759
Speaker 1: them is special. Teams so he kind of solves two.

727
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 7: Problems and we'll wrap up With.

728
00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 6: Jets David bailey Over, REESE i was looking Into Aaron

729
00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,800
Speaker 6: glenn his years In. Detroit his big thing In, detroit

730
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,399
Speaker 6: which made him famous was we're gonna go cover zero.

731
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:48,960
Speaker 7: Blitz we're mixing up the blitz is.

732
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 6: Confusing bailey's more of just like a traditional Addresser reese

733
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 6: is that. HYBRID i can play. Linebacker i'm gonna delay

734
00:39:55,480 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 6: my blitz HERE i. Come you don't know Where i'm coming.

735
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 6: From so that's the only REASON i. GIVE i Think

736
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 6: grease is probably who they.

737
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 1: Draft it's not IF i WAS gm WHO i would,

738
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:09,359
Speaker 1: draft BECAUSE i don't Trust Aaron glenn to figure out

739
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 1: The rubik's cube of Rvel. Reese Whereas bailey comes in

740
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 1: day one edge. Rusher you've got your edge guys set

741
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 1: for the next five year turn him.

742
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:19,400
Speaker 7: Loose, Yeah so, overall, listen this is not. Bad we got.

743
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 2: It we got.

744
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 6: It what are we two months out of the? Draft

745
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,640
Speaker 6: something like, that maybe eight, weeks seven.

746
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 1: WEEKS i love mock drafts a little bit of a.

747
00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 1: Sickness