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Speaker 1: It's no secret the Chiefs are now five and five

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Speaker 1: at noon at Geha Field at Arrowhead Stadium on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: It's the start of a one game season and this

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Speaker 1: edition at depending the Kingdom, like them all, is presented

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Speaker 1: by Ticketmaster, who could be your new best friend or

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Speaker 1: needs Moms over the middle past Cot and it's caught

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Speaker 1: by Kelsey, Inside the Town, inside the Fun, Kelsey Libs, touchdown,

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Speaker 1: duos of the city, however you want. I'm Mitchelta's voice

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Speaker 1: of the Chiefs along with senior team reporter Matt McMullen,

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Speaker 1: and here we are and people can talk about it.

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Speaker 1: We see graphics go up. The Chiefs are out of

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Speaker 1: the playoffs, so the ninth seed, you know they're not

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Speaker 1: gonna make it. It's over. So let's just boil it

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Speaker 1: a one game season. This is a one game season.

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Speaker 1: With the Colts. People get tired of cliches, you know,

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Speaker 1: play one game at a time. Well this was one

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so not where we expected to be when the

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Speaker 2: season began, right, five and five, Not at all where

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Speaker 1: Right.

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Speaker 2: The Chiefs are right in the thick right now of

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Speaker 1: Right now.

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Speaker 2: It's about let's win this week and then after this

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Speaker 2: and that's what we'll talk about here today.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, there's thirty other NFL teams in the league. They

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Speaker 2: Let's do it. Got a handful for you today. So

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Speaker 1: All right, Harrison Bucker game winning field goal. I like it.

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Speaker 2: We have a listener in El Paso, Texas.

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Speaker 1: Yes, yep, nears Bliss's Fort Bliss Baby.

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Speaker 2: So Paul is in southern New Hampshire near Nashua. Have

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Speaker 2: A great hearing from you. Alec Ryan is listening from Gretna, Nebraska.

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Speaker 1: Never leth there's all birds of prey. All the five

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Speaker 2: All right, big game. And then Karen went to Great Bend.

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Speaker 1: The Panthers and they are loaded. It is also the

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Speaker 1: alma mater of Meghan McMullen. No relation to you. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Terry Terry del Pivar scoutings. Yeah, he's a great Ben Panther.

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Speaker 1: It's a factory.

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Speaker 2: Apparently.

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Speaker 1: They also have the best player in Kansas this year, kid,

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Speaker 1: I Ian Premer. He's going to a Notre Dame.

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Speaker 2: Wow, what position loaded?

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Speaker 1: Whatever you want him to be.

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Speaker 2: there you go. Kendall and Karen. So there they live

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Speaker 2: They also travel all over the world but have not

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Speaker 2: So the Chiefs Kingdom Food Drive is now live, so

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Speaker 2: items to donate to Harvesters and the twenty six counties

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Speaker 2: if you want to check out Chiefs dot com slash

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Speaker 2: let's do it once again.

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Speaker 1: Let's do it. I've got an international group and I've

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Speaker 1: the Kingdom shows from Germany. I mentioned him. Every week

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Speaker 1: to go to the Kingdom Show. Frank Kopner from New Minst,

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Speaker 1: start eighteen eighty three, nineteen twenty three Yellowstone, we have

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Speaker 1: that in the Chief Kingdom. Okay, people don't even know it.

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Speaker 1: You remember when you had somebody from Centralia. Yeah, Kansas

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Speaker 1: in the Pro Football Hall of Fame, right, Great Washington

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Speaker 1: the University of Kansas. That's John Riggins Street is what

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Speaker 1: it's really Corning, Kansas, which is a ways out of Centralia.

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Speaker 2: Okay, they are the main characters right there, the main characters.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I want to clear out, clear out.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right. They're awesome, incredible family. Hannah is the

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Speaker 2: they're staying ahead of the chains. They're running the ball

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Speaker 2: has played very well.

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Speaker 1: But it all.

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Speaker 2: Begins with stopping the engine, and the engine as Jonathan Taylor,

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Speaker 1: This will be the toughest of those three challenges. Maybe

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Speaker 1: Different way to do it, but they'll score big touchdowns

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Speaker 1: These are seventeen play grind out, grinded out eighty five

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Speaker 1: Chiefs need toughness in this game. They need to have

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Speaker 1: He's not Jonathan Taylor, but I'm going to tell you

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Speaker 1: It's like, what do you all need? I'll give it

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's one of those things that you know

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Speaker 3: I feel like, you know, I'm one of those guys

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Speaker 2: Kaream, You've played a lot of football in your career,

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Speaker 3: Like I said, we have a bunch of guys who've

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Speaker 1: It seems like the more physical the game, the more

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Speaker 3: No, definitely not. And that's one thing I like to

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Speaker 2: I think it's so cool like you've taken advantage of

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Speaker 1: Quick question about the Colts opponent specific this defense maybe

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Speaker 3: Good front seven man, They got you know, guys who

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Speaker 2: It's going to be noon at the stadium on a Sunday,

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Speaker 3: Do you think, oh, that's a perfect type of day.

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Speaker 1: So how many carries you want?

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Speaker 3: that's the only thing I care about is wins and losses?

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Speaker 1: Yeaes, sir, And why this guy is so valuable to

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Speaker 2: In a lot of ways. I think he saved the

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the Colts have more than Jonathan Taylor, and you

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Speaker 1: study the draft, You and I study the draft. Now

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Speaker 2: We have like a couple of weeks to learn about.

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Speaker 1: Our personnel staff is that's what they do all year long,

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Speaker 1: Matt and I basically crammed for the test. But one

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Speaker 2: the offensive and defensive lines. They've certainly done that, but

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Speaker 2: I think that toughness kind of extends to their skill

433
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Speaker 2: position guys. Obviously Taylor, but also yeah, Michael Pittman and

434
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Speaker 2: Alec Pearce, like two guys who are well over six

435
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Speaker 2: foot two. They're big, strong, physical, and if they're going

436
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Speaker 2: to go up for a ball, you have to fight

437
00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:02,800
Speaker 2: them for it because they're probably going to come down

438
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Speaker 2: with it. And Tyler Warren is an extension of that.

439
00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:07,399
Speaker 2: You know, there was a play in that game they

440
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Speaker 2: played against the Falcons overseas where I can't remember the

441
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Speaker 2: exact situation, but it was kind of like a crunch

442
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Speaker 2: time for the Colts. It might have been like a

443
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Speaker 2: fourth down or something, and Jones just kind of tossed

444
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Speaker 2: it over to Warren, who had a defender all over him,

445
00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:24,119
Speaker 2: and Warren just went up there and got it, and

446
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Speaker 2: the defender was hanging on to him, and Warren is

447
00:20:26,280 --> 00:20:29,520
Speaker 2: so strong he's just hanging onto the football. Colts later

448
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Speaker 2: go on to win that game. These guys are so

449
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Speaker 2: strong and physical really throughout their entire roster. We have

450
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Speaker 2: to match that on Sunday. And yeah, Warren is one

451
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Speaker 2: of those guys. You can't let him beat you because

452
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Speaker 2: I think he leads his team in receiving yards, huge

453
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Speaker 2: red zone weapon, really good player, going to be a

454
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Speaker 2: good player for a long time. We got to find

455
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Speaker 2: a way to contain that production on Sunday.

456
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm going to match your match, but I'm going

457
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Speaker 1: to raise you to an exceed I think the Chiefs

458
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Speaker 1: will lose if they try to match the physicality of

459
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Speaker 1: the Colts. They have to exceed it in some way,

460
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Speaker 1: shape or form. They've got to exceed it against this team.

461
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Speaker 1: You talk about fourth down, there's seventeen to twenty one

462
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Speaker 1: on fourth down. Yeah, we're sixteen to twenty one. We're

463
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Speaker 1: pretty good. There's seventeen to twenty one on fourth down.

464
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Speaker 1: Now before we get to Ari, who's doing his spy

465
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Speaker 1: mission around the West. This defense of the Colts is underrated.

466
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Speaker 1: And they have impact players now at all three levels.

467
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Speaker 1: The trade to get sauce Gardner was looked at like, whoa,

468
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Speaker 1: you just Chris Baller, You just gave up a lot

469
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Speaker 1: to get sauce Gardner. Well he's there, whether the trade

470
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Speaker 1: was expensive or not. But a guy on this team

471
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Speaker 1: that I really respect is Zaire Franklin, the linebacker in

472
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Speaker 1: the last two and three fourth years. Taking their ten

473
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Speaker 1: games this year, he has four hundred and ten tackles,

474
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Speaker 1: seven sacks, seven force fumbles, two interceptions. This guy is

475
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Speaker 1: a Nick Bolton. He will make every play possible. I

476
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Speaker 1: think Franklin is an underrated defensive player in this league.

477
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Speaker 2: Really good player. They don't have DeForest Buckner, which is

478
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Speaker 2: a big deal, really good defensive tackle in the middle

479
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Speaker 2: of their defense. I believe he's on ir right now,

480
00:21:58,960 --> 00:22:01,000
Speaker 2: so that's a big deal not having him. But yeah,

481
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Speaker 2: they have playmakers everywhere. You mentioned getting Sauce Gardner, and

482
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Speaker 2: the man calling the plays is lou An Arumo. We've

483
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Speaker 2: had a lot of battles against lou Anarumo, a former

484
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Speaker 2: Bengals defensive coordinator, so we know all about this guy.

485
00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:15,920
Speaker 2: It's kind of funny when he got let go from Cincinnati.

486
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Speaker 2: I'm like, all right, we don't have to worry about

487
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Speaker 2: that guy anymore. Well now here he is in Indianapolis

488
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Speaker 2: on one of the best teams in the AFC, so

489
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Speaker 2: got to be ready for him.

490
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Speaker 1: You know.

491
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Speaker 2: It's interesting though, overall the numbers might be a bit

492
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Speaker 2: skewed because these guys just obliterated the Dolphins, Raiders, and

493
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Speaker 2: the Titans twice. And despite that, it's still the twenty

494
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Speaker 2: seventh ranked third down defense and twenty fourth ranked red

495
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Speaker 2: zone defense. They allowed about over four hundred yards to

496
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Speaker 2: the Rams, Chargers and Cardinals. They're still really good though,

497
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Speaker 2: I mean, don't take me take this wrong. I mean

498
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Speaker 2: they bring fourth in the NFL and quarterback pressures and

499
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Speaker 2: they're seventh in takeaways. Here's the thing for the Chiefs

500
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Speaker 2: in this game. This Colts defense is good. If the

501
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Speaker 2: Chiefs have opportunities, they have to seize them. So we

502
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Speaker 2: talked all about pregame postgame during the Broncos game that

503
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Speaker 2: missed opportunities have been the theme of the season so

504
00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:04,240
Speaker 2: far in the losses, and we saw that against the Broncos. Right,

505
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Speaker 2: I mean, overall, and Chiefs go one for four in

506
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Speaker 2: the red zone against Denver. I mean, if you convert

507
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Speaker 2: just one more of those into touchdowns, the Chiefs win

508
00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:13,280
Speaker 2: that game. But also the end of the game, the

509
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Speaker 2: multiple sequences where the Chiefs had the ball and the lead,

510
00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:18,360
Speaker 2: when the Chiefs had the ball in a tie game

511
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Speaker 2: with plenty of time to go down and tie it

512
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Speaker 2: or take the lead, I mean, and then also having

513
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Speaker 2: the Broncos in third and fifteen deep in their own

514
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Speaker 2: side of the field, you've a chance to get off

515
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Speaker 2: the field and give the ball back to Patrick Mahomes. Well,

516
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Speaker 2: the Chiefs didn't come up big in those situations like

517
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Speaker 2: they normally do. If the Chiefs have opportunities in this game,

518
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Speaker 2: which they will, they have to seize them. And if

519
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Speaker 2: they do, I like their chances. But you can't let

520
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Speaker 2: a team like the Colts, who's playing really good football

521
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Speaker 2: right now, have multiple chances like we did against Denver.

522
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Speaker 1: Yeah, they don't have Buckner, but they do have Grover Stewart. Yeah,

523
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Speaker 1: Grover Stewart's a stud. And the other thing they've done defensively,

524
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Speaker 1: The numbers aren't as nice as their offensive numbers. They

525
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Speaker 1: have fourteen takeaways, yeah, and they're plus two. They got

526
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Speaker 1: twelve giveaways, but fourteen takeaways these guys and Quitty Pays

527
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,439
Speaker 1: a good player, remember studying him in the draft. But

528
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Speaker 1: our spy is out there. He roams the West Coast

529
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,720
Speaker 1: and you won't even know he's there. He just SLINKs

530
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Speaker 1: in and out of places. Let's check in with our

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Speaker 1: guy on the West. Here's Ari Wolf.

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Speaker 4: Hello to everyone, and welcome to out West with Ari Wolf.

533
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Speaker 4: Excited for my chat this week with Matt McMullen and Matt.

534
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Speaker 4: The AFC West looks different week after week after week.

535
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Speaker 5: Right now the.

536
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Speaker 4: Broncos clearly now in front. At nine and two. They

537
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Speaker 4: come away with a three point win against the Chiefs.

538
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Speaker 4: The Charters had a really, really bad loss against Jacksonville.

539
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Speaker 4: They got blown out. The Raiders get blown out on

540
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Speaker 4: Monday night in football. But let's start at the top

541
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Speaker 4: because we focus on the AFC West. The Broncos. It

542
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Speaker 4: really was a statement win for them. This game could

543
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Speaker 4: have gone either way. Bo Nicks is such an interesting

544
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Speaker 4: story at quarterback because he's booed in that game at

545
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Speaker 4: home in the first half.

546
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Speaker 5: By his own fans.

547
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Speaker 4: Yet if you'll look at the numbers at the end

548
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Speaker 4: of the game, he throws for two hundred and ninety

549
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Speaker 4: five yards and doesn't turn the ball over. Bow Knicks

550
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Speaker 4: in some ways reminds me a little bit of Jalen Hurts.

551
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Speaker 4: People sort of just love to hate him no matter

552
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Speaker 4: how much his team wins. Is Boon Knicks a guy

553
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Speaker 4: do you think eventually is going to be in the

554
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Speaker 4: upper echelona quarterbacks? Or is he benefiting from the fact

555
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Speaker 4: that they have a strong overall team and one of

556
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Speaker 4: the best defenses in football.

557
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that's a tough question to answer, and

558
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 2: I think the great on him is probably incomplete right now.

559
00:25:28,920 --> 00:25:31,160
Speaker 2: But you got to give him credit that he's making

560
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:34,120
Speaker 2: plays when he needs to and going into the game

561
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Speaker 2: against the Broncos, what Mitch and I kept talking about

562
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 2: is these guys, for whatever reason, are like the best

563
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Speaker 2: in the NFL this year in the fourth quarter. They

564
00:25:42,680 --> 00:25:44,720
Speaker 2: have the best yardage margin in the fourth quarter, They

565
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,080
Speaker 2: have the best point margin in the fourth quarter. Knicks

566
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Speaker 2: went into the Chiefs Broncos game with the most total

567
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Speaker 2: touchdowns and first downs of any quarterback in the fourth quarter.

568
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Speaker 2: So if you have an opportunity to seize this game

569
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Speaker 2: and not let it come down to the final drive,

570
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Speaker 2: you got to do it. Unfortunately, that's exactly what happened.

571
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Speaker 2: It came down to the final drive that She's missed

572
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:05,879
Speaker 2: a bunch of opportunities to put this game away, and

573
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Speaker 2: Nicks did what he has done all year, and he

574
00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 2: went down and made some great throws on third and

575
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 2: fifteen hitting Courtland Sutton and then the thirty two yard

576
00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:16,480
Speaker 2: pass de Troy Franklin down the sideline. I mean, those

577
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,719
Speaker 2: are great throws and a big moment, and I have

578
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Speaker 2: to give him credit for it. Tough one, right, So

579
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Speaker 2: I can't. I don't think I can come on this

580
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Speaker 2: podcast today and criticize him when he made those throws

581
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Speaker 2: that he did, So I'll give him the credit. We'll

582
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Speaker 2: see where his career goes. But making plays like that

583
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Speaker 2: in those big moments, that's what all that's what being

584
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Speaker 2: a great quarterback is all about. And again he made

585
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Speaker 2: sure he did that in those big moments.

586
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Speaker 4: So they're heading into the bye week, so are the Chargers.

587
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Speaker 4: The Chargers, it was the worst loss in the Harbaugh era.

588
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 4: Granted it's only been a year and a half, but

589
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Speaker 4: to lose like that, and we've talked about, you know,

590
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,399
Speaker 4: that trip from the West coast to the East coast

591
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,720
Speaker 4: and playing in the early time slot is challenging, but

592
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:58,119
Speaker 4: the Chargers were really flat. I mean, Herbert threw for

593
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Speaker 4: eighty one yards in the game. I realized they pulled

594
00:27:00,320 --> 00:27:03,200
Speaker 4: him pretty early in the second half, but it it's

595
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 4: not a good sign for the Chargers. They're heading into

596
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 4: their bye week feeling the exact opposite of the Broncos.

597
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 4: I think the Chargers are now vulnerable down the stretch.

598
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Speaker 4: But I don't want to read too much into one game, right,

599
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,040
Speaker 4: Like you can just have a bad day at the office.

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Speaker 5: What was your takeaway?

601
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Speaker 4: I know you were busy working, but once you've had

602
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,720
Speaker 4: a chance to, you know, look at the highlights, analyze

603
00:27:21,720 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 4: what happened, what really went wrong for the Chargers against

604
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Speaker 4: the Jaguars.

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Speaker 2: You know, It's funny with games like this. I'm on

606
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Speaker 2: the field getting ready for my pregame show and at

607
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:34,800
Speaker 2: Mile High, for example, on their big board, they're just

608
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,439
Speaker 2: showing kind of like red zone basically. So I'm like

609
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,600
Speaker 2: jumping in and out of the Chargers Jags game. And

610
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Speaker 2: like we talked about last week, I thought the Chargers

611
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:45,359
Speaker 2: were going to handle the Jags in that game, and

612
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,159
Speaker 2: it couldn't have been more opposite. I'm shocked by this

613
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,119
Speaker 2: to see the Jags absolutely roll the Chargers and the

614
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,920
Speaker 2: numbers are even crazier. You talked about Herbert's passing yards,

615
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 2: but the Chargers had one hundred and thirty five yards

616
00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 2: of offense and eight first downs. Now, the Jags defense

617
00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,800
Speaker 2: has played well this year, but I mean that's thorough

618
00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 2: and complete domination. And the Jags went into that game

619
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Speaker 2: with the fewest sacks in the NFL. We kind of

620
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:12,359
Speaker 2: wondered with the Chargers tackle situation, something has to give there, like,

621
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Speaker 2: are the Jags going to be all over Herbert the

622
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 2: entire game? And they kind of were. I mean, they

623
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:19,920
Speaker 2: blitched just two times and still got pressure nine times

624
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:22,400
Speaker 2: on twenty three dropbacks, so almost half of his dropbacks.

625
00:28:22,400 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 2: They are creating pressure despite not blitzing. As we know,

626
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:28,240
Speaker 2: that's a recipe for absolute disaster for an offense and

627
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 2: that's what happened. So Yeah, weird situation for the Chargers.

628
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 2: Kind of never really got their game plan going. So

629
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Speaker 2: we'll see and we'll talk a little bit later if

630
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Speaker 2: we're looking kind of out the wildcard race right now.

631
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 2: The game against the Chargers in a few weeks is

632
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 2: a big one. But yeah, odd game there for the

633
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 2: Chargers and the Jags, two teams going in different directions.

634
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Speaker 4: I think are not going to spend a lot of

635
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:51,600
Speaker 4: time on the Raiders because I do I want to

636
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 4: go deep into the AFC Wildcard race. But the Raiders

637
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 4: last night or see Mike business as usual, Dallas comes

638
00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 4: in their Dak Prescott looks like a Roll Bowl quarterback.

639
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 4: Both receivers, despite the fact that they didn't play in

640
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 4: the opening series, which we didn't get a ton of

641
00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 4: detail on after the game. Something internally was wrong that

642
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:12,240
Speaker 4: you don't have CD Lamb and George Pickott's on the field,

643
00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 4: But look, those guys shined in the game. The Raiders,

644
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 4: I'm curious whether or not Pete Carroll's going to even

645
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 4: get another year, or whether they're placing the blame that

646
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 4: they need a franchise quarterback. But I feel like every

647
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 4: week when we talk about the Raiders, they are just

648
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 4: a mess.

649
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 1: Now.

650
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 5: Look, they did a couple things good defensively early.

651
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 4: But man, this is a team right now that doesn't

652
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 4: have a lot of positive signs for the future.

653
00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:37,080
Speaker 2: Can you believe the Raiders beat the Patriots at Gillette

654
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 2: in Week one?

655
00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:38,080
Speaker 1: Right?

656
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 2: This is why football is so crazy, and why after

657
00:29:41,760 --> 00:29:43,440
Speaker 2: like week one and week two, you can never come

658
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 2: to any major conclusions because after the week one we

659
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:49,200
Speaker 2: were like, man, the Raiders, they might have something this year. Yeah,

660
00:29:49,240 --> 00:29:51,760
Speaker 2: and I mean just hasn't been the case. Their defense

661
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:55,239
Speaker 2: has really struggled. He trade Jakobe Myers, who is one

662
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 2: of your best offensive weapons and kind of makes an

663
00:29:58,200 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 2: offense that was already struggling even worse. These defenses are

664
00:30:02,960 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 2: keying in unbrock bowers and they can never get the

665
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 2: running game going because they don't have time to run

666
00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,920
Speaker 2: the ball because their defense is struggling. Just a recipe

667
00:30:09,920 --> 00:30:12,280
Speaker 2: for disaster for the Raiders and kind of that sort

668
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:13,280
Speaker 2: of year for them.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and it's odd with Gino.

670
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 4: He really when he found his best football in Seattle

671
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 4: is because he wasn't turning the football over and now

672
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:23,239
Speaker 4: he has more interceptions than touchdowns. Usually guys with that

673
00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,680
Speaker 4: kind of track record now through ten games go straight

674
00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 4: to the bench. So I realized Carrol and Gino have

675
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 4: a deep relationship, but they got to figure something out.

676
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:31,760
Speaker 2: All right.

677
00:30:31,840 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 5: Let's move on to what were the best games from

678
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Speaker 5: last week.

679
00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 4: I thought there were two, the Rams and the Seahawks

680
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 4: and the Bears and the Vikings for different reasons. So

681
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 4: the Rams jump all over the Seahawks, right they're at

682
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:47,040
Speaker 4: fourteen to three. Stafford throws two early touchdown passes. But

683
00:30:47,080 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 4: when you really dig into the game, Seattle actually played

684
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,520
Speaker 4: great despite the fact their quarterback threw four picks.

685
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Speaker 5: They have a chance to win the game.

686
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 4: On look, a sixty one yard field goal is not

687
00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 4: a sixty one yard field goal in nineteen eighty five

688
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,000
Speaker 4: world we're living in like a sixty one yard field

689
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 4: goal like is manageable. They had a chance. Seattle's defense,

690
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,920
Speaker 4: I think is legit. Stafford really in the Rams offense

691
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 4: did very little. They had a couple of short fields.

692
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 4: They got those points early. They're going to play again

693
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 4: in Seattle, but that now looks like it's a two

694
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:21,160
Speaker 4: team race in the NFC West. What was your takeaway

695
00:31:21,160 --> 00:31:22,520
Speaker 4: from the Seahawks in the Rams.

696
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:24,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, this is another one that I'm trying to

697
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,280
Speaker 2: catch up on after the fact. But I mean, what

698
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 2: a matchup between I mean, probably the two best teams

699
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,680
Speaker 2: in the NFC right now. I get Philadelphia has the record,

700
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 2: but the way those two teams have been playing this

701
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:38,240
Speaker 2: year going into it as both top five and scoring

702
00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 2: offense and defense, and I think we saw that in

703
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 2: the game. I think my major takeaway from this game, though,

704
00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:47,240
Speaker 2: is Sam Donald, if he's going to completely rewrite the

705
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 2: script about him, I think he has to play well

706
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:52,720
Speaker 2: in these big games. And yeah, they hung in there

707
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 2: despite the four interceptions. But Donald has been so good

708
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 2: this year, like so good, and in some primetime games

709
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 2: looked really really good, completely different from the guy that

710
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,320
Speaker 2: got jettisoned out of New York, right, But he has

711
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 2: to play well in these sorts of games. And he

712
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 2: threw four interceptions. You just can't do that against a

713
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 2: division opponent that you're kind of competing with to get

714
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 2: that top seed in the NFC. So I think that's

715
00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 2: my takeaway is I'm curious in a few weeks when

716
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 2: they play again, Sam Donald has to be the Sam

717
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:22,760
Speaker 2: Donald he was all year and not the player he

718
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 2: was on Sunday.

719
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Speaker 4: Yeah, it does seem like the bigger the game for Donald,

720
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 4: it's been real shaky. Mean, you look back at the

721
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,080
Speaker 4: end of his season last year, right, and they're on

722
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,160
Speaker 4: top of the world, they're feeling great, and his last

723
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 4: two games went so poorly in Minnesota. So, speaking of

724
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 4: the Vikings. It was kind of a wild NFC North

725
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 4: Division game. The Bears lead sixteen to three. You're thinking, Okay,

726
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 4: this is not that interesting of a game, but then wow,

727
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,440
Speaker 4: McCarthy and the Vikings come all the way back with

728
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:50,080
Speaker 4: fifty seconds left, They take a one point leave and

729
00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,959
Speaker 4: then they give up the huge kickoff return and in

730
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,959
Speaker 4: the end Santos kicks the game winning field. Well, they

731
00:32:55,960 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 4: are now seven and three, and look, this is wild.

732
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Speaker 4: Like they're in the mixed win the NFC Nord. I

733
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 4: don't think anybody had they started oh and two, and

734
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 4: I wouldn't say that they're winning these games because Caleb

735
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:09,520
Speaker 4: Williams is suddenly a star. I think Caleb Williams is

736
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 4: better than he's been. But wow, the Bears at seven

737
00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 4: and three. They have had a bunch of tight games,

738
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Speaker 4: and it was a spectacular ending to that one.

739
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 2: I'm pulling up the Bears schedule right now just to

740
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 2: look at it. It's crazy. They're seven and three. And

741
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 2: actually this morning, when I was thinking about what we

742
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 2: were going to talk about today, I was thinking about

743
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,080
Speaker 2: the Bears and I looked up the standings and I'm like,

744
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 2: they're seven and three. I just kind of had no idea.

745
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 2: I mean, I know they've been winning some games, but

746
00:33:35,880 --> 00:33:38,560
Speaker 2: still seven and three, particularly, like you said, after starting

747
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,880
Speaker 2: and two. The funniest part of this is there one

748
00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 2: loss during this whole stretch since starting to two was

749
00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 2: to the Ravens. But it was the Tyler Huntley Ravens. Yeah,

750
00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 2: it wasn't like it was Lamar, so kind of inexplicable there.

751
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 2: I mean, the Ravens were totally at the brink at

752
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,959
Speaker 2: that point. I think they're one and five and they

753
00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,240
Speaker 2: beat the Bears. That's the bears only loss in this

754
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:02,960
Speaker 2: entire stretch. They beat the Bengals that crazy game forty

755
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 2: seven forty two. They beat the Giants twenty four to twenty,

756
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 2: beat the Commanders twenty five to twenty four in that

757
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:13,360
Speaker 2: game when Daniels turned the ball over late. Yeah, I mean,

758
00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 2: they're playing good football. And I was someone that thought

759
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:18,400
Speaker 2: Ben Johnson was going to be a success, Like not

760
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 2: just because of the x's and o's, but he seemed

761
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,000
Speaker 2: like a kind of like a culture builder kind of guy.

762
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 2: And I'll give him credit. After a tough start, they've

763
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 2: figured it out, especially considering they lost to the Lions

764
00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 2: fifty two to twenty one to drop to zero to two.

765
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:34,359
Speaker 2: I'm sure vibes weren't great at Hallas Hall. Now they've

766
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:37,000
Speaker 2: won seven of eight, playing good football. That's a fun

767
00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:39,359
Speaker 2: division to watch. I'm curious how it all plays out,

768
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:40,399
Speaker 2: and it's wild.

769
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 4: Do you think about nobody expected the Chiefs at this

770
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 4: point in the year to be on the outside of

771
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 4: the playoff picture, or how about the Detroit Lions if

772
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 4: the playoffs started today, would.

773
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,320
Speaker 5: Not be in the playoffs. That is a staggering thought.

774
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:51,799
Speaker 2: All right.

775
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:55,399
Speaker 4: So next week AFC wes it's a light week because

776
00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 4: you've got the Broncos and Chargers are off, so the

777
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,840
Speaker 4: big game is obviously the Colts versus the Chiefs. I

778
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 4: don't think I'm a rocket scientist here telling you getting

779
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,920
Speaker 4: pressure on Daniel Jones is everything. You know, what the

780
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 4: Steelers were able to do to the Colts has got

781
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 4: to be the recipe for the Chiefs to have success.

782
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 4: Slowing down this really good offense, which brings me to

783
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 4: Chris Jones. You know, there were moments against Denver where

784
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,680
Speaker 4: I thought, okay, like that's the dominant Chris Jones.

785
00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:21,279
Speaker 5: Because when you.

786
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 4: Think about the legacy of this particular dynasty and it

787
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 4: harkens back to remember during the preseason, before our first

788
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:34,280
Speaker 4: preseason game, in the same meeting room, we had Andy Reid,

789
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:36,359
Speaker 4: Patrick Mahomes, Travis Kelsey.

790
00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:37,800
Speaker 5: And Chris Jones, and I thought we got four first

791
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:38,760
Speaker 5: ballot Hall of Famers.

792
00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:42,439
Speaker 4: Chris Jones, to me, needs to play like a first

793
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 4: ballot Hall of Famer because he just wrecks everything. And

794
00:35:45,000 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 4: I granted he has a lot of double teams. Sometimes

795
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:49,840
Speaker 4: the stats are there and other guys are getting it,

796
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 4: but to me, he is still the alpha male of

797
00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:54,240
Speaker 4: the defense. And if they want to take down Daniel

798
00:35:54,320 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 4: Jones and the Colts, boy, I'd love to see the

799
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 4: best game of the season for Chris Jones this weekend.

800
00:35:58,960 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you. One thing that Mitch and I

801
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 2: have been talking about all week and on the podcast

802
00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 2: today is about how the Colts are so physical and

803
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 2: powerful and strong, right like they want to be the

804
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 2: most physical team on the field. The Chiefs can't just

805
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,879
Speaker 2: match the physicality, they need to exceed it. And that

806
00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 2: manifests itself in a lot of ways, but one of

807
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:20,880
Speaker 2: them is trying to get pressure with the defensive front

808
00:36:21,080 --> 00:36:23,200
Speaker 2: without blitzing. And I think if you look back at

809
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 2: the Broncos game. That's one of the areas we struggled

810
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:27,960
Speaker 2: is in order to get pressure on Nicks, we kind

811
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 2: of had to manufacture that pressure. And on the third

812
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 2: and fifteen at the end of the game, couldn't get

813
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 2: pressure on him. Sutton came open, I'm with you. You got

814
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 2: to put pressure on Daniel Jones. It begins with stopping

815
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:39,319
Speaker 2: the run, though, and that's something that Mitch and I

816
00:36:39,320 --> 00:36:41,880
Speaker 2: have talked about ad nauseum. I mean, this is obvious.

817
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 2: Jonathan Taylor having an incredible season. You have to kill

818
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:47,480
Speaker 2: that engine, right, and he's going to get his yards

819
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:49,200
Speaker 2: here and there. But you can't let him have one

820
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:52,080
Speaker 2: of these monster days. Force him to throw the football

821
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:53,680
Speaker 2: and get pressure. Because if you look at like Pro

822
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:55,959
Speaker 2: football focus numbers and take it for what you will,

823
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 2: but if you do Jones when he has the ball

824
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,240
Speaker 2: out of his hands unless in two point five seconds,

825
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:02,920
Speaker 2: one of the best in the league this year, When

826
00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 2: he hangs on to the football for longer than two

827
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 2: point five seconds, his numbers go way down for the

828
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 2: Chiefs in this game. Get that quick pressure on him,

829
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 2: don't let him go to his first read, right, and

830
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 2: let's how you confuse him and create pressure and create problems.

831
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 2: A lot easier said than done against this great offensive line.

832
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 2: But yeah, that's the key on Sunday.

833
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 4: And then just a quick dough on the other AFC

834
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,360
Speaker 4: West game. You've got the Browns and the Raiders. I

835
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:27,960
Speaker 4: think at this point this easy if you have this

836
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 4: better record, aren't you Both teams almost want to lose

837
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:33,600
Speaker 4: to improve your draft pick. Nevertheless, the most interesting thing

838
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:36,040
Speaker 4: to me is Shador Sanders will get the start. I

839
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:38,879
Speaker 4: did watch the second half of the Ravens Browns game.

840
00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 4: Don't ask me why, I'm just a football junkie. Sanders

841
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 4: looked overwhelmed. Now, granted, hill Ball a full week of practice,

842
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 4: but I think that there will be a lot of

843
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:49,960
Speaker 4: interest in this game just because that Sanders brand, It's

844
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:51,799
Speaker 4: Dion Son, its first.

845
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:52,879
Speaker 5: Start, I get.

846
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 4: I think it's going to have a bigger viewership than

847
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 4: you normally have for two teams that only have a

848
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 4: couple of wins. And I'm curious, are you interested at

849
00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 4: all and see how Sanders does this weekend?

850
00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 1: Yeah?

851
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:03,880
Speaker 2: Because I'm like you, I just like football, and of

852
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 2: course that's been like a storyline for months and months now. Yeah,

853
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 2: I'm curious to see how he looks. I was going

854
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:11,360
Speaker 2: back and watching the highlights from when he got in

855
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 2: the game against Baltimore last week, curious to see how

856
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 2: he does when he has like a full week to prepare,

857
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 2: has the game plan built around him, see how he

858
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 2: handles it. He's obviously super talented. I mean, I'd stay

859
00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 2: up and watch his games at Colorado when they're at

860
00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 2: like twelve thirty at night here in Kansas City. So yeah,

861
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:33,320
Speaker 2: I'm fascinated a lot more intrigue in this game considering

862
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 2: who's playing each other than there normally would be considering

863
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:40,439
Speaker 2: the records. But yeah, we'll see how he does. All right.

864
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:44,120
Speaker 4: Now, we're sort of adding a new component to out West,

865
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:46,959
Speaker 4: and that is looking at the AFC Wildcard and looking

866
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,400
Speaker 4: at those teams in who they're playing, because you know,

867
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 4: it is a race now to secure one of those

868
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 4: three wildcard spots. So let's start right now. Buffalo is

869
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:57,880
Speaker 4: at seven and three. Now, look, there are only a

870
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,279
Speaker 4: game behind the Patriots. They play each other again. But

871
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,720
Speaker 4: I do think you know, whicheveryone doesn't win the division

872
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 4: is going to get in.

873
00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:04,879
Speaker 5: So if you assume that.

874
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:08,560
Speaker 4: Buffalo is in, then you've got the Chargers Jacksonville, Houston

875
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:10,719
Speaker 4: in Kansas City. To me, are the four teams that

876
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:16,160
Speaker 4: are buying for the other two births. Buffalo is playing

877
00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:18,359
Speaker 4: Houston next week. Now, normally I would think I got

878
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:20,720
Speaker 4: to root against Buffalo, we got to get KC homefield

879
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 4: a manage. Well, we're at a different point in a

880
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 4: different season. It actually seems to me this week coming up,

881
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 4: we're rooting for the Bills that the Texans, because who

882
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 4: want to bury the Texans to get them out of

883
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,319
Speaker 4: the wildcard race. I'm not crazy, right that that we're

884
00:39:32,360 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 4: rooting for the Bills next week.

885
00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 2: No, I think you're right. I mean it feels sacrilegious.

886
00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 2: You know what you just said. I said at the

887
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 2: beginning of the podcast with Mitch that normally this time

888
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 2: of year, we're talking all about like positioning for like

889
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 2: the top seed, trying to get the buy I mean,

890
00:39:46,239 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 2: the reality of the season is that the number one

891
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:50,840
Speaker 2: seed is far away, right, we just need to make

892
00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:54,280
Speaker 2: sure we get in the dance. So yeah, as crazy

893
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,360
Speaker 2: as it sounds, I think I think I want the

894
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 2: Bills to win this game against the Texans because the Texans,

895
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:01,879
Speaker 2: to their credit, have won three of four games, two

896
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:03,960
Speaker 2: of which without CJ. Stroud, and it sounds like he's

897
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 2: not going to play in this game either. But Davis

898
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 2: Mills has played pretty good at least to keep the

899
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:11,880
Speaker 2: minute ugly game against Tennessee. But they won and you

900
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 2: shouldn't apologize for winning. And they still have the number

901
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 2: one scoring defense in the NFL. Now, Buffalo has been

902
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 2: so up and down, you truly never know what you're

903
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 2: going to get. I mean, against the Bucks last week,

904
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 2: at least offensively, they were phenomenal, just matching the Bucks

905
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:29,960
Speaker 2: score for score. Allen was incredible. I think he had

906
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 2: like six total touchdowns and against us they were great.

907
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 2: But then against the Falcons earlier this year, and certainly

908
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 2: against the Dolphins, just like a completely different team. So

909
00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 2: what team shows up here in this game. We'll find out.

910
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 2: But yeah, as much as it pains me to say,

911
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:47,359
Speaker 2: I think we want the Bills to win this game, unfortunately.

912
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:49,840
Speaker 4: Not something either of us have said in the last

913
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 4: five or six years. Were rooting for the Bills in

914
00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:56,120
Speaker 4: Week twelve? Yeah, all right, next up, Jacksonville is six

915
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 4: and four, and I went through the rest of their

916
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 4: schedule and I have them with it, you know, again,

917
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 4: I'll have a crystal Ball, But I have them finishing.

918
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 5: If things go well for them.

919
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 4: At ten and seven, they still have the Colts at

920
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 4: home and they still have to go to Indy, Right,

921
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:12,600
Speaker 4: So the Jacksonville think it could be worse than ten

922
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 4: and seven.

923
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:14,160
Speaker 5: I gave them a split.

924
00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 4: I just gave them winning at home and them losing

925
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:21,399
Speaker 4: at Indianapolis. But Jacksonville coming off one of their best

926
00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:24,799
Speaker 4: performances of the season, They've got to be feeling pretty

927
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:27,319
Speaker 4: bullish down there. I mean, Trevor Lawrence hasn't played great,

928
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,800
Speaker 4: the defense has been better than we expected. They've caused

929
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 4: lots of turnovers. So Jacksonville is a team coming up

930
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 4: this week. They've got at Arizona then at Tennessee. Those

931
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 4: are very winnable road games. Where do you stand right

932
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 4: now on the Jaguars and AFC wildcard picture?

933
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:47,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, speaking of hot and cold, the Jacks

934
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 2: are tough to figure out because the way they played

935
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 2: against US and the way they played against the Chargers

936
00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 2: last week, for sure, I mean, that looks like a

937
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:56,880
Speaker 2: really good team, right, But then they've also had struggles

938
00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:59,240
Speaker 2: this year. They lost to the Rams thirty five to seven,

939
00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 2: barely beat the Raiders, allowed twenty nine points to the

940
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 2: Raiders just a couple weeks ago, and then that crazy

941
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:08,319
Speaker 2: game against the Texans a few weeks ago where they

942
00:42:08,360 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 2: had a sizable lead late in the fourth quarter and

943
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 2: allowed it to go away. So I don't really know

944
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 2: what team will get to week with the Jags now,

945
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:21,439
Speaker 2: considering the current situation, I hope they lose a bunch

946
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 2: of these games. And with Arizona, I'm assuming it'll still

947
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 2: be Jacobe Brissett at quarterback.

948
00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:26,520
Speaker 1: Right.

949
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 2: So Brissette, despite losing last week, still had a pretty

950
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 2: good game. We'll see if maybe they put a more

951
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,359
Speaker 2: complete game together here against the Jags, it would be

952
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 2: great for the chief situation. If the Jags, coming off

953
00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 2: a big win over the Chargers at home, go across

954
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 2: the country and lay an egg against the Cardinals. We'll see.

955
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 2: The Cardinals, I feel like, are one of those teams that,

956
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 2: even though the record doesn't show it, they can get

957
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 2: hot from time to time. We'll see it. But yeah,

958
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 2: I mean looking at the schedule, like you said, two

959
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:55,359
Speaker 2: more games against the Colts for the Jags, and they

960
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:58,760
Speaker 2: have to play the Broncos this year on the road.

961
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:02,759
Speaker 2: That'll be tough. So we'll see but to me, the

962
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 2: Jags are that main team that we're watching right now

963
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 2: and chatting with Mitch. The division race is not over.

964
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 2: I mean, the Chiefs three games back in the lost column,

965
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 2: but you still play the Broncos again. If the Chiefs

966
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:16,839
Speaker 2: take care of their business and the Broncos maybe get

967
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 2: a little comfortable with their situation, the Division is still

968
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 2: very much in play. But we have to be realistic

969
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:23,799
Speaker 2: here and talk about the wild card as well. Both

970
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 2: routes are possible, and I think for the Chiefs and

971
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 2: the wildcard race, Jacksonville is the one team I'm watching

972
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 2: because they had that tiebreaker over us. We need them

973
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:32,920
Speaker 2: to lose some games.

974
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, all right. So nextcept the Chargers.

975
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 4: So they're coming off again, just the worst performance in

976
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 4: the Harbaugh era. They're seven and four. I have them

977
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:46,040
Speaker 4: finishing at ten and seven. We've got the Raiders at home.

978
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 4: You expect them to win in that. I think they

979
00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:49,720
Speaker 4: probably lose to the Eagles at home. They can't protect

980
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,160
Speaker 4: and that Eagles defensive line looks better than it has

981
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:54,840
Speaker 4: all your Jalen Phillips has been a nice ad for them.

982
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 4: They still have to go to Kansas City, They have

983
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,919
Speaker 4: to go to Dallas and they have to go to Denver.

984
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,960
Speaker 4: I've got the Chargers finishing at ten and seven, so

985
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 4: you know, the tiebreaker between the Chargers and the Chiefs,

986
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:08,359
Speaker 4: it could end up being there are three teams at

987
00:44:08,400 --> 00:44:10,439
Speaker 4: ten and seven. Then we go to record. We talked

988
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:14,840
Speaker 4: about offline yesterday. Record in the AFC. There's still a

989
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:16,560
Speaker 4: lot of AFC games to be played, so I think

990
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:18,480
Speaker 4: we don't need to dig too deep into that, but

991
00:44:18,600 --> 00:44:20,959
Speaker 4: I do think that there's a chance that those three

992
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 4: teams could end up at ten and seven, and then

993
00:44:23,640 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 4: obviously the tiebreakers come in and play it to just

994
00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,520
Speaker 4: I want to put a summary on this. Obviously, if

995
00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 4: the Chiefs win their next seven, they're in. If they

996
00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:33,680
Speaker 4: go six and one, they're in. But five and two

997
00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 4: is not a guarantee, and so that's just that's pretty

998
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 4: you know, five and two is something you'd normally expect

999
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:41,839
Speaker 4: from them when you're five and five. Five and two

1000
00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 4: sounds like, look, this team's got to really turn it

1001
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 4: up a notch. Do I trust Andy Reid one hundred percent?

1002
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 4: Do I trust Patrick Mahomes the whole organization, But it's

1003
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 4: going to be fascinating to see how they deal with

1004
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:55,120
Speaker 4: this because it's going to be a fight down to

1005
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:57,280
Speaker 4: the final week of the season for the wildcard. Hopefully

1006
00:44:57,480 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 4: the Chiefs won't be sweating, but whoever gets that last

1007
00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 4: while card spot, it's gonna be a dogfight in the AFC. Now,

1008
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:06,359
Speaker 4: I'll just briefly mentioned Houston is right there, five and five.

1009
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 4: I've got them finishing at seven to ten. They actually

1010
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:10,439
Speaker 4: have a pretty tough schedule the rest of the way.

1011
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 4: The best game coming up this week, I think, besides

1012
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 4: the Colts and the Chiefs, I think the Steelers versus.

1013
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:18,160
Speaker 5: The Bears is interesting.

1014
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 4: Now we know Aaron Rodgers got the injury to his

1015
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 4: non throwing hand. No decision has been made. Obviously he

1016
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 4: doesn't play. It kind of changes things. But you know,

1017
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 4: we're just talking about the Bears, you know, seven and

1018
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 4: three finding ways to win. The Steelers really really needed

1019
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 4: to win last week against Cincinnati. I think the Steelers

1020
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 4: and the Bears could be fun. Any inkling of how

1021
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:40,280
Speaker 4: do you think that one might work out this weekend?

1022
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:42,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, with the Steelers, I mean they have to

1023
00:45:42,520 --> 00:45:44,319
Speaker 2: be looking in the rear view mirror now and the

1024
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:47,759
Speaker 2: Ravens are right there kind of like how we all

1025
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,880
Speaker 2: thought this might play out. After the Ravens won that

1026
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 2: game in Chicago, kind of felt like they saved their season.

1027
00:45:53,239 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 2: Then Lamar Jackson came back. They have not lost since.

1028
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:58,440
Speaker 2: Now they actually have the same record as the Chiefs,

1029
00:45:58,480 --> 00:46:00,600
Speaker 2: which is hard to believe considering we're these two teams

1030
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 2: were just a few weeks ago. The good news is

1031
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 2: the Chiefs actually have the tiebreaker over the Ravens because

1032
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:08,760
Speaker 2: of the head to head win. That's good. The Ravens

1033
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 2: making the playoffs as a wildcard team just because of

1034
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 2: how the tiebreakers have worked out would be tough, but

1035
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 2: they could win that division. And actually, I think as

1036
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 2: part of this conversation with the wild card and kind

1037
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 2: of watching what teams are right there with the Chiefs,

1038
00:46:21,800 --> 00:46:23,840
Speaker 2: I think you almost want the Steelers to start losing

1039
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 2: some games and just concede the AFC North to the

1040
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:27,800
Speaker 2: Ravens and the Steelers might fall out of it entirely,

1041
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:29,320
Speaker 2: which is pretty crazy.

1042
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 5: But well, we'll take back to what the Steelers did.

1043
00:46:31,480 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 4: We talked about this last week, Like Russell Wilson, they

1044
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 4: got into an eight and three start and didn't make

1045
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 4: the playoffs, So you know, this could be the same

1046
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 4: thing over again. The Steelers going in the wrong direction again.

1047
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:41,600
Speaker 4: They got a reprieve last week. But you know, if

1048
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:43,840
Speaker 4: Aaron Rodgers can't play, I don't think that. You know,

1049
00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 4: Steelers Nation has a ton of confidence at Mason Rudolph.

1050
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:49,359
Speaker 4: I think he's a gamer. But yeah, I think it'll

1051
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:51,760
Speaker 4: be interesting. I do think that they're in the AFC.

1052
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:53,840
Speaker 4: There's gonna be a lot of Bears fans this weekend,

1053
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:57,360
Speaker 4: right that the Steelers for sure.

1054
00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 2: Well, if you looked at the Steelers schedule, I just

1055
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:01,839
Speaker 2: pulled it up, so the Steelers played.

1056
00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:03,520
Speaker 5: They still got the Ravens wide.

1057
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:06,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, they play the Bears this weekend. Then they play

1058
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 2: the Bills, then the Ravens, then the Dolphins, and you know,

1059
00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 2: take the Dolphins for what you think they are.

1060
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 5: Dolphins are trending in the right direction right now, so that.

1061
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, not be a easy game. Right Then after that

1062
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 2: they go on the road to Detroit, who at that

1063
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:22,400
Speaker 2: point will likely be playing for their playoff lives. But

1064
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:24,840
Speaker 2: Detroit is way better I think than the record indicates.

1065
00:47:25,360 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 2: Then Cleveland on the road Division game with Miles Garrett,

1066
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,600
Speaker 2: who will have fifty five sacks at that point. And

1067
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 2: then and then they finished the year with the Ravens.

1068
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:36,040
Speaker 2: The Steelers might be in some trouble here just looking

1069
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:37,200
Speaker 2: at their schedule. This is tough.

1070
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 4: I mean, the Steelers could finish under five hundred, right,

1071
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 4: eight to nine, you wouldn't be that shock, right, just

1072
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 4: given how tough the schedule is. So it's going to

1073
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:48,640
Speaker 4: be a compelling, compelling race in the AFC. And again

1074
00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 4: that we're not saying that the division title is not

1075
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 4: still an option. You go seven to zero and the

1076
00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:55,759
Speaker 4: Broncos slip up a little bit. Look, I mean the

1077
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:58,040
Speaker 4: Chiefs really only lost one regular season.

1078
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 5: Game last year, right, the last game against.

1079
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 4: You're not playing your starters, So winning seven or zero

1080
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:05,400
Speaker 4: for this bunch is not unrealistic.

1081
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:05,560
Speaker 2: All right, Matt.

1082
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:09,120
Speaker 4: To my final thought, and this is really a message

1083
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 4: to the kingdom, which is this standard that has been

1084
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:15,759
Speaker 4: set by the Chiefs is the standard that we've never

1085
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 4: seen before in the National Football League. What this dynasty

1086
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 4: has done has brought incredible joy, right, It's brought the

1087
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:25,759
Speaker 4: most fun in the history of the franchise. But what

1088
00:48:25,880 --> 00:48:29,400
Speaker 4: also does is create a level of expectation which I

1089
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:32,359
Speaker 4: think sometimes can suck the fun out of football. Right

1090
00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:34,920
Speaker 4: for most people, for most of their lives, You've been

1091
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:37,600
Speaker 4: a Chiefs fan for fifty years, right, There's been more

1092
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:39,520
Speaker 4: lows than there have been highs. But now you sort

1093
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:41,800
Speaker 4: of expect every Sunday that Patrick Holmes is going to

1094
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 4: look like the goat and that they're gonna win comfortably

1095
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:47,319
Speaker 4: every week. And what I'm almost begging all of you

1096
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 4: and I have to do it now too, is enjoy

1097
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 4: the process.

1098
00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:55,400
Speaker 5: Enjoy watching football. Enjoy that this Chiefs.

1099
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 4: Team has arguably one of the greatest coaches of all time,

1100
00:48:58,600 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 4: may go down as the greatest quarter of all the time,

1101
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:02,799
Speaker 4: the greatest tight end ever playing one of the best

1102
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 4: defensive tackles we'll ever see play in the National Football League.

1103
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:08,960
Speaker 4: So literally, I beg of you enjoyed this process. They're

1104
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 4: gonna figure it out. They're gonna get in the postseason.

1105
00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:13,839
Speaker 4: And one thing I can promise you is nobody wants

1106
00:49:13,880 --> 00:49:15,920
Speaker 4: to play Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs in the playoffs.

1107
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:19,919
Speaker 4: So everyone enjoyed the process. Take those expectations down a hair,

1108
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:21,920
Speaker 4: find a way to cut out some wins, get in

1109
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:23,399
Speaker 4: the playoffs, and I love the Chiefs.

1110
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:24,799
Speaker 5: Chances on to you, Matt.

1111
00:49:25,120 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 2: You fire me up. You know that you get me excited.

1112
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:30,719
Speaker 2: I'm fired up to attack this thing. My final thought

1113
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:32,399
Speaker 2: is kind of a two parter. I sort of talked

1114
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 2: about this with Mitch a little bit earlier already, but

1115
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:37,880
Speaker 2: I'll have this part with you. I've had so much

1116
00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:40,040
Speaker 2: fun doing this like football and family thing, Like the

1117
00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:42,720
Speaker 2: Bills game, my parents were front row at high Mark Stadium,

1118
00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 2: and then my wife was at the Broncos game with

1119
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:49,160
Speaker 2: her family a few days ago. Unfortunately both losses. Maybe

1120
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:51,359
Speaker 2: I should stop bringing family members to these road games,

1121
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:53,919
Speaker 2: is what I'm taking away from this. But the part

1122
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:55,680
Speaker 2: that I already told Mitch, but I'll mention it to

1123
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:58,800
Speaker 2: you because you'll love this is Ellie was like ninety

1124
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,319
Speaker 2: nine point nine percent Chiefs fan at this point, right,

1125
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:03,719
Speaker 2: I've converted her fully from being someone that grew up

1126
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:06,600
Speaker 2: in Colorado going to Broncos games of fully converting to

1127
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:09,960
Speaker 2: being a Chiefs fan. But I think the game on

1128
00:50:10,040 --> 00:50:13,239
Speaker 2: Sunday was the final point for her where she is

1129
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 2: now one hundred percent on board because you know, Chiefs lose,

1130
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:19,120
Speaker 2: bummed out, Like I'm just kind of sitting and getting

1131
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 2: my thoughts together before we did, Chiefs rewind and she

1132
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:25,080
Speaker 2: texts me, Man, I hate the Broncos and I'm like,

1133
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:27,399
Speaker 2: we have truly come full circle of Yes.

1134
00:50:28,280 --> 00:50:28,640
Speaker 5: There it is.

1135
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:30,480
Speaker 2: When I first met her, like she was giving me

1136
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 2: a hard time for being a Chiefs fan, and she

1137
00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:34,359
Speaker 2: was talking about Super Bowl fifty. This is like nine

1138
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 2: years ago, you know. And now she's texting me, man,

1139
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:38,400
Speaker 2: I hate the Broncos And she's holding their head up

1140
00:50:38,480 --> 00:50:41,240
Speaker 2: high walking out of mile High with the chief skieron,

1141
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 2: and people are chirping at her and she's giving them looks,

1142
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:46,719
Speaker 2: you know, like I love it. So and on a

1143
00:50:46,800 --> 00:50:48,680
Speaker 2: night where not a lot went right for the Chiefs

1144
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:50,360
Speaker 2: in terms of the result, at least I know my

1145
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 2: wife is now fully on board. She was tested and

1146
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:55,880
Speaker 2: she passed the test. That's awesome. I absolutely love that.

1147
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:58,359
Speaker 4: Before we go, I do want to say I want

1148
00:50:58,360 --> 00:51:00,160
Speaker 4: to give thanks to the people at the Chiefs who

1149
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 4: help get this awesome new background. I mean, it's a

1150
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 4: gorgeous shot of Arrowhead Well, I think is the most

1151
00:51:05,719 --> 00:51:07,960
Speaker 4: one of the most iconic venues in all of sports.

1152
00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 4: So the Chiefs, you guys came through to set us

1153
00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 4: up here on out West, so big thanks. Everybody will

1154
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 4: help make that possible.

1155
00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:16,319
Speaker 2: Matt Well, I find a way to mail not one

1156
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 2: group of items, but also I find a way to

1157
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 2: mail the stuff behind you. It got out there, you

1158
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 2: find a way to put it up. Because we get

1159
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 2: the stuff to Ari finally and he's like, all right,

1160
00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 2: how do I put it up? And I'm like, I

1161
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:29,600
Speaker 2: don't know. He figured it out, though, So glad we

1162
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:32,320
Speaker 2: finally have you in some gear and have a good backdrop.

1163
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:34,799
Speaker 2: Mitch is going to miss the map of the world though, Yes,

1164
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:36,560
Speaker 2: I might have to break that out from time to time.

1165
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 4: All Right, well, listen, this was a ton of fun.

1166
00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:42,280
Speaker 4: I wish the Chiefs well this week against the Colts.

1167
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:44,439
Speaker 4: I will be watching. It should be fun. And that's

1168
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 4: going to do it for this part of the podcast.

1169
00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:49,360
Speaker 4: Within the podcast out West with Ari Wolf done for

1170
00:51:49,400 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 4: this week.

1171
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:53,680
Speaker 1: Take care of everybody, man, Alway's on it. This guy's comprehensive.

1172
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:55,000
Speaker 1: It just won't slow down. Really.

1173
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:57,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, and a lot to talk about right now. You know,

1174
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:00,919
Speaker 2: the NFL is built around parody. The Chiefs have found

1175
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:03,520
Speaker 2: a way to maintain so much success for so long.

1176
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:05,480
Speaker 2: We're going to keep it going here this year in

1177
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 2: the second half of the season. But a lot of

1178
00:52:07,480 --> 00:52:09,520
Speaker 2: parody right now in the NFL, A lot of teams

1179
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:09,759
Speaker 2: in it.

1180
00:52:10,360 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, special teams I think becomes part of the discussion too.

1181
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:15,719
Speaker 1: In this one game season against the Colts, you look

1182
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:17,360
Speaker 1: at what the Colts have done their number one in

1183
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:20,360
Speaker 1: kick return average. You don't get a lot of kick returns,

1184
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:24,080
Speaker 1: but they're good there, and then also number one in

1185
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:26,520
Speaker 1: net punting. You talked about the physical nature of this

1186
00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:29,279
Speaker 1: Colts team. I talk about exceeding it. That carries over

1187
00:52:29,320 --> 00:52:31,920
Speaker 1: to special teams, and so the Chiefs and special teams

1188
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:34,600
Speaker 1: have had good moments, but they've also had the moments

1189
00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 1: of the penalties or losing field position or not flipping

1190
00:52:38,080 --> 00:52:39,759
Speaker 1: the field when they had a chance to flip the field.

1191
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:42,800
Speaker 1: That's part of the missed opportunities. We talk about the

1192
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:47,480
Speaker 1: missed offensive opportunities. Five times they've had the ball to well,

1193
00:52:47,560 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 1: actually four times where they did the double dip, and

1194
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:52,080
Speaker 1: then the third quarter in the four losses, I should

1195
00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:54,399
Speaker 1: say nine times they have the first possession, third quarter

1196
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:56,840
Speaker 1: in the four losses, three to three and outs in

1197
00:52:56,840 --> 00:53:00,360
Speaker 1: an interception in the five wins, five touchdowns at a

1198
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:03,120
Speaker 1: critical moment. But it's also critical for special teams in

1199
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:07,239
Speaker 1: all four phases to exceed the physical nature of the

1200
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:09,839
Speaker 1: Colt who love to live by that that's another Chris

1201
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:10,440
Speaker 1: Ballard thing.

1202
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:13,480
Speaker 2: Well, look at the Chiefs five losses this year all

1203
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:17,160
Speaker 2: by one score. So the Chiefs haven't gotten throttled in

1204
00:53:17,239 --> 00:53:19,240
Speaker 2: any game this year. It's all been by one score

1205
00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 2: and it's always come down to a really slim margin, right,

1206
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 2: and we saw that against Denver. Of course, three of

1207
00:53:24,680 --> 00:53:26,560
Speaker 2: the Chiefs five losses this year have come down to

1208
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:29,440
Speaker 2: a three point deficit. So when games like that, or

1209
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:31,880
Speaker 2: the Chiefs are in all of these games and they

1210
00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:34,120
Speaker 2: have a chance to win all of these games, it

1211
00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:36,919
Speaker 2: boils down to little things like special teams. And yeah,

1212
00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 2: if you look at the Broncos game, well the Marvin

1213
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 2: Mems huge punt return that goes all the way down

1214
00:53:42,560 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 2: to the twelve yard line, and I mean the Chiefs

1215
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:48,160
Speaker 2: defense was remarkable in that sequence because the drive begins

1216
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:50,360
Speaker 2: inside the fifteen and they still hold Themver to a

1217
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:52,920
Speaker 2: field goal. But still that's three points and look at

1218
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:55,759
Speaker 2: the final score, right, And there was other instances like

1219
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 2: that as well. I think about the Jags game earlier

1220
00:53:58,239 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 2: this year, which kind of explained a game the Chiefs

1221
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:04,399
Speaker 2: had multiple times while there was multiple penalties on special teams.

1222
00:54:04,480 --> 00:54:06,880
Speaker 2: So yeah, I'm with you. The Chief special teams have

1223
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 2: had big moments this year, but in a game like

1224
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:12,400
Speaker 2: this again, when you're facing a very good team and

1225
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:14,479
Speaker 2: I expect it's going to come down to the last

1226
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 2: eight minutes, you want your special teams to be pristine

1227
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 2: and not allow the Colts to have even more opportunities

1228
00:54:20,120 --> 00:54:22,400
Speaker 2: because you look at this Colt squad, not a lot

1229
00:54:22,440 --> 00:54:25,400
Speaker 2: of weaknesses, and they really put pressure on you. And

1230
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:27,799
Speaker 2: I look back at the Steelers game that the Colts

1231
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 2: lost earlier this year. Yeah, they turned the ball over

1232
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 2: six times. You can get these guys, but it's difficult.

1233
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:35,800
Speaker 2: They still only lost that game by a touchdown despite

1234
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:38,640
Speaker 2: six giveaways. So let's steal some possessions in this game.

1235
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:41,839
Speaker 2: Let's play really sound football on special teams, and let's

1236
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:44,440
Speaker 2: finish in the red zone offensively, and the Chiefs can

1237
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:45,359
Speaker 2: definitely win this game.

1238
00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:47,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it gets my attention. Daniel Jones through for

1239
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:50,959
Speaker 1: three to sixteen on Denver and I just I'm like, wow,

1240
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:54,280
Speaker 1: I didn't realize that, But yes, you're right. The margin

1241
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 1: is very, very slim in these games, and special teams

1242
00:54:56,680 --> 00:55:00,640
Speaker 1: can decide it one way or another. Very least feel

1243
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:03,360
Speaker 1: can have a pat eve locked. Now you're going to

1244
00:55:03,400 --> 00:55:05,400
Speaker 1: go up four. It's going to be just It was

1245
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:07,560
Speaker 1: the reverse of what happened in Super Bowl fifty seven

1246
00:55:07,600 --> 00:55:11,600
Speaker 1: when Leo Chanell blocked the San Francisco pat It only

1247
00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 1: killed some momentum, It made it a three point game.

1248
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 1: It changes everything for Denver knowing that a field goal

1249
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:20,279
Speaker 1: will tie it. Yeah, well so they just their play

1250
00:55:20,320 --> 00:55:23,279
Speaker 1: sheet now goes, oh, let's add four more pages here.

1251
00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:26,919
Speaker 2: Well, think about it. So when Denver tied the game,

1252
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:29,839
Speaker 2: I think it was fourth and six. So if they're

1253
00:55:29,960 --> 00:55:33,719
Speaker 2: down by four with five minutes left, you think they

1254
00:55:33,800 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 2: kick the field goal, they go for it, and if

1255
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 2: they don't get it, you get the ball back with

1256
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:39,879
Speaker 2: great field position, a chance to just up four, up four,

1257
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:41,360
Speaker 2: you have a chance to just end the game with

1258
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:42,160
Speaker 2: the ball in your hands.

1259
00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:42,439
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1260
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:44,759
Speaker 2: I mean, it comes down to those little things and

1261
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:46,960
Speaker 2: I think we've experienced a lot of that this season.

1262
00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:50,879
Speaker 2: The Chiefs, though for so many years, have seized those

1263
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:53,680
Speaker 2: little things. That's still there. Just a matter of doing

1264
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:55,880
Speaker 2: that over the course of the final seven games and

1265
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:57,440
Speaker 2: got to do it against these guys and.

1266
00:55:57,560 --> 00:55:59,920
Speaker 1: Doing it in a one game season.

1267
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:04,920
Speaker 4: Woo By