1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to Brainstuff the production of I Heart Radio, Hey 2 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: brain Stuff Lauren Bogibom here. America's famous yellow school buses 3 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 1: have been slowly going electric, but more still will be 4 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 1: plugging in soon, thanks in large part to the one 5 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:22,000 Speaker 1: point to twillion dollar bipartisan Infrastructure bill passed by the 6 00:00:22,040 --> 00:00:27,480 Speaker 1: US Senate auguste. While the bill has not yet been 7 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 1: passed into law, and many in the sustainable transportation community 8 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 1: are already excited about what this bill could mean for 9 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 1: the possibility of electrifying more of the US's fleet of 10 00:00:37,479 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 1: four hundred and eighty thousand school buses, and how that 11 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 1: could help lower emissions and improve air quality. Of the 12 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:48,520 Speaker 1: one point to trillion dollar infrastructure bill, two point five 13 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 1: billion is earmarked for zero emissions buses, enough for roughly 14 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 1: eleven thousand electric vehicles, and another two point five billion 15 00:00:56,560 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: for low emission buses, which could be fueled by natural 16 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 1: gas or propane. While this may seem like a lot 17 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 1: of money, it's significantly less than what President Joe Biden 18 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: initially proposed in March of this year, which was a 19 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 1: hundred and seventy four billion dollar lump sum to boost 20 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:16,880 Speaker 1: the electric vehicle market, including nine thousand school buses instead 21 00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 1: of the eleven thousand that the bill would now cover. 22 00:01:20,920 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 1: So why school buses? There are a lot of reasons 23 00:01:24,560 --> 00:01:27,600 Speaker 1: it makes sense for school buses to go electric. First, 24 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: most new electric buses have a range of up to 25 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:32,919 Speaker 1: a hundred and twenty miles. That's a hundred nine KOs 26 00:01:33,040 --> 00:01:35,760 Speaker 1: on a single charge, which is plenty far enough for 27 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 1: the average school bus route on. Second, some charging systems 28 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: can charge a bus in just ninety minutes. Plus, Electric 29 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:47,120 Speaker 1: buses also require a lot less maintenance than their diesel counterparts, 30 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 1: but it's also simple numbers. School buses currently make up 31 00:01:51,880 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: around of the buses on the roads in the US, 32 00:01:54,920 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 1: and those run on high polluting diesel fuel the right now, 33 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: less than one percent are electric. For context, the entire 34 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:08,080 Speaker 1: US transit fleet has around four and eighty thousand school 35 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: buses and just seventy public transportation buses. That's less than 36 00:02:12,360 --> 00:02:16,080 Speaker 1: fift percent of the number of school buses. For the article, 37 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:18,359 Speaker 1: this episode is based on how Stuff Works. Spoke with 38 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 1: Lauren Justice, development director at the Center for Transportation and 39 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:26,760 Speaker 1: the Environment. She said transportation is the largest contributor to 40 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:30,119 Speaker 1: greenhouse gas emissions in the US. The medium and heavy 41 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 1: duty sector produces more than percent of these emissions, despite 42 00:02:33,960 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: comprising less than five percent of vehicles on the road. 43 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 1: If the entire school bus fleet were electrified, greenhouse gas 44 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: emissions from all buses in the US would be reduced 45 00:02:43,960 --> 00:02:48,919 Speaker 1: by around fifty Along with the issue of adding greenhouse 46 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:52,560 Speaker 1: gases into the atmosphere, thus increasing global warming and its 47 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:56,799 Speaker 1: associated risks, these emissions are also harmful for the twenty 48 00:02:56,800 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: million school children who ride these buses to school. Not 49 00:03:00,720 --> 00:03:03,240 Speaker 1: only are these buses emitting in the neighborhoods through which 50 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:06,520 Speaker 1: they drive, but the pollution inside the bus can actually 51 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 1: be up to twelve times higher than ambient levels. In addition, 52 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 1: it's an issue of equity. According to the World Resources Institute, 53 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 1: students from low income communities are particularly exposed to this 54 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 1: toxic pollution, and some sixty percent of students from low 55 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:25,240 Speaker 1: income families use buses to get to and from school, 56 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 1: compared with forty five percent of students from higher income families, 57 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:32,560 Speaker 1: an issue that's exacerbated in communities of color due to 58 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 1: America's history of racist economic policies in both the government 59 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: and private sector that concentrated those communities closer to highways 60 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 1: and policies from zoning, to housing, to lending to the 61 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 1: very construction of our highway system. And Justice said switching 62 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: from diesel powered school buses to electric could avoid an 63 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 1: average a five point three million tons of greenhouse gas 64 00:03:54,800 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 1: emissions each year and over seven hundred thousand pounds that's 65 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 1: three hundred thousand kilos of ep A criteria pollutants admitted 66 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 1: near children. So can it be done? Advocates believe it 67 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:10,520 Speaker 1: can be, but they say much more money needs to 68 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 1: be allocated to the issue, and that the infrastructure bill 69 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: is definitely not enough on its own. And it's not 70 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,479 Speaker 1: just about money. There also need to be plans in 71 00:04:19,560 --> 00:04:22,919 Speaker 1: place to help school districts through the transition to electric buses, 72 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 1: and Justice said the critical piece that any successful plan 73 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 1: must include is an avenue for school districts to receive 74 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:35,600 Speaker 1: technical assistance. While most school buses are still diesel powered, 75 00:04:35,880 --> 00:04:38,679 Speaker 1: some districts have been adding electric buses to their fleets. 76 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 1: In Maryland, for example, the Montgomery County Public School System 77 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 1: has plans to get three hundred and twenty six electric 78 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: school buses over the next four years. This is the 79 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:52,240 Speaker 1: largest commitment by any single school district today. Thirty three 80 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: states have electric school buses announced, procured, delivered, or in operation. However, 81 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 1: as previously mentioned, the is inequality baked into the system, 82 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:05,360 Speaker 1: and that's just as true for which areas will get 83 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:09,359 Speaker 1: more electric school buses more quickly. Already, the largest share 84 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: thirty percent of school districts with at least one electric 85 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 1: school bus, are in suburban areas, which tend to be wealthier. 86 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: In addition, about sixty of all committed future electric buses 87 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 1: are in suburban areas, versus just percent in cities, seven 88 00:05:24,520 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 1: percent in towns, and six percent in rural areas. Along 89 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 1: with the infrastructure bill, there are numerous other programs and 90 00:05:32,320 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 1: political initiatives to electrify the nation's school buses. In February 91 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 1: of this year, the Clean school Bus Act was reintroduced 92 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: in the US Senate and the House of Representatives. This 93 00:05:42,480 --> 00:05:45,480 Speaker 1: act would establish a Clean school Bus Grant program to 94 00:05:45,560 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: award grants to replace existing school buses with electric ones. However, 95 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:54,840 Speaker 1: as of now, the bill is stalled in subcommittee. Meanwhile, 96 00:05:55,000 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: the Federal Transit Authorities Low or No Emission Vehicle Program 97 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:02,919 Speaker 1: allocates roughly two million dollars in funding for low and 98 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 1: no emissions buses and the facilities that support them. Its 99 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: goal is to support the Infrastructure Bill to reduce greenhouse 100 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 1: gas emissions by by the end of the decade. And 101 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: speaking of funding, electric school buses do cost more than 102 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: diesel powered, but they can lead to long term savings 103 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 1: for school districts who purchase them. For several reasons, electricity 104 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:28,119 Speaker 1: is typically less expensive than diesel fuel, and as said above, 105 00:06:28,320 --> 00:06:32,480 Speaker 1: electric buses require less maintenance. Plus, if the districts equip 106 00:06:32,600 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: their schools with vehicle to grid technology, they can both 107 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 1: draw energy from and return it to the electrical grid. 108 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:44,240 Speaker 1: A While Justice and other clean transportation advocates are pleased 109 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 1: to the Infrastructure Bill and local governments are addressing this problem, 110 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 1: they know that there's still a long way to go 111 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:53,280 Speaker 1: when it comes to electrifying school buses in the United States. 112 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,520 Speaker 1: Today's episode is based on the article why you want 113 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: your kids school bus to be Electric on how stuff 114 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:06,760 Speaker 1: Works dot com, written by Stephanie Parker. 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