1 00:00:09,119 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Favorites, the podcast from the Action Network. 2 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: I am Schad Millman, I'm your host. We have a massive, 3 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:26,079 Speaker 1: massive show today because it is PJA Championship Week out 4 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: at Bethpage in Long Island. Uh. And of course we 5 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:34,559 Speaker 1: have the best golf writer of his generation working at 6 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:36,839 Speaker 1: the Action Network. That is Jason Sobel. He is going 7 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:39,760 Speaker 1: to come on later in the show. We are finally 8 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: down to the conference finals in the NBA Playoffs, and 9 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:49,200 Speaker 1: we happen to have um, maybe the best NBA better 10 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: currently in existence working with us at the Action Network 11 00:00:53,360 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 1: that is Justin Fan. We're gonna explain to everybody how 12 00:00:56,040 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: you can all jump on the fan wagon start following 13 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: Justin in the Action Network app. But first up, the 14 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 1: most polarizing man, not just at the Action Network but 15 00:01:09,319 --> 00:01:18,680 Speaker 1: in all of sports media and potentially Twitter itself, Mr 16 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 1: Darren Ravel, what's up. How you doing, buddy? I'm good, 17 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:30,759 Speaker 1: I'm good. I'm excited about this week. I'm excited about 18 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:32,319 Speaker 1: it too. We're gonna talk about a new project you're 19 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:36,480 Speaker 1: working on that's gonna debut on Twitter, and the reason 20 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 1: why we decided to do on Twitter I think can 21 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 1: be summed up in what you did on Twitter over 22 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: the past same month. Because first, Um, on the night 23 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 1: of the n C Double A Tournament finals, the championship game, 24 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: you doing what you do, which is like completely authentic, 25 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:01,360 Speaker 1: passionate and genuine and then and willing to share it. 26 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 1: And I say this with respect and admiration. Um, you 27 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: sang one Shining Moment and you did like a whole 28 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:13,440 Speaker 1: rendition of it that we shared on the Action Network 29 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 1: Twitter handle at Action Network HQ and that you shared, 30 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: and honest to god, it had more views than the 31 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: actual highlight reel that CBS put out for one Shining Moment. 32 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 1: So that was more more, Yeah, it got, It got 33 00:02:27,120 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 1: more than double. What if you added up the official 34 00:02:31,320 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: n c A handle and the CBS handle got from 35 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: the social output of one Shining Moment. So and that 36 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:42,640 Speaker 1: was just genuine honestly, we we were It was me 37 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 1: and a couple of our guys are social guys, Jack 38 00:02:45,960 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: and and Connor in the office and it was like 39 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:52,800 Speaker 1: seven thirty and we're saying to each other, God, this 40 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: thing starts at nine twenty. There's nothing going on, and 41 00:02:56,800 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 1: we felt that there was just a dead time. And 42 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 1: I said, know, I loved one shining moment. I sang 43 00:03:02,600 --> 00:03:05,440 Speaker 1: the song at my rehearsal dinner, SA there. I have 44 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:08,600 Speaker 1: a good relationship with David Barrett, the guy who wrote it. 45 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:11,880 Speaker 1: It's an important song and I couldn't wait for the tip, 46 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: let alone one shining moment. We put it out there 47 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: and I think, love it or hate it, people were 48 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: talking about it, all right, So that was number one 49 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: like that that trended so wildly that Tom Brady, who 50 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 1: had just joined Twitter, that twigged it and said I'm 51 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: leaving Twitter. You know. We got Tom Brady and J. J. 52 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 1: Watt both responding. So that's that he interviewed him. I've 53 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: interviewed him several times. I believe he'd know who I 54 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: am if he saw me. But we are not acquaintances, 55 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: nor does he follow me on Twitter. So that goes 56 00:03:52,800 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: to show you how how much of a deal it was. 57 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 1: Someone either sent it to him. You've got to see this, 58 00:03:58,800 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: or he doesn't follow me. So alright, So the second 59 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 1: thing you did, and I want to get this is 60 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: all leading up to the premise of this project, and 61 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: so I'm I'm deliberately creating a build up here so 62 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 1: people are gonna have to hold on to listen to 63 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 1: hear what you're gonna be doing on Twitter that that 64 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:17,359 Speaker 1: they control or enjoy, depending on their perspective. But the 65 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:20,800 Speaker 1: second thing you did was you posted a picture of 66 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:24,080 Speaker 1: the L. S U gymnastics team celebrating coming in second 67 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: place in the NC Double A tournament and said why 68 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 1: are they posting a billboard? And it set off a firestorm. 69 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 1: Explain your logic and what happened. Well, the logic is 70 00:04:36,320 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: simply the way they did it, that they had like 71 00:04:39,040 --> 00:04:43,800 Speaker 1: a special logo that said runner up. Now I know 72 00:04:43,920 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: that the n c A has given out trophies for 73 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 1: the runner up for all their championships. I think since 74 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:58,760 Speaker 1: around Okay, so there is a runner up trophy. I 75 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 1: have never seen a runner up logo. I did research 76 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: the background quickly when I saw this online that they 77 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 1: had a runner up billboard, and it was basically because L. 78 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:14,760 Speaker 1: S U Gymnastics had the greatest four year run in 79 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:20,479 Speaker 1: their history. They did not win a championship by gymnastics standards. 80 00:05:20,520 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 1: They got beaten soundly by Oklahoma, and I just felt like, 81 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 1: you can thank the community, you can say what a 82 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 1: four year run, but to have them together holding the 83 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 1: runner up trophy, with a runner up logo just to me. 84 00:05:37,279 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 1: I just didn't like it, and I knew exactly what 85 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,960 Speaker 1: was going to happen. It's because it's me, But it's 86 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 1: also because Twitter, by its nature, is out of context, right, 87 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:48,960 Speaker 1: Like I wasn't gonna explain the whole thing. All I 88 00:05:49,000 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 1: was gonna say is I don't agree with how they 89 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:56,280 Speaker 1: put it out. And people went nuts, and the gymnastic 90 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: team went nuts, and it became about me and how 91 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 1: marble person and whatever. But but but I was trending 92 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: nationally for five hours only to be topped, only to 93 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 1: be topped by when you ran the forty yard dash 94 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:21,159 Speaker 1: before the NFL Draft, And the comments were both hilarious 95 00:06:21,200 --> 00:06:23,599 Speaker 1: and mean, and some of them were just, you know, 96 00:06:24,760 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 1: kind of neutral to supportive. Talk us through this, Darren, So, 97 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:35,200 Speaker 1: Nike gave an opportunity for a couple of journalists to 98 00:06:35,320 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 1: run the four yard dash. It was actually a twenty 99 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: yard dash, which they didn't had some formula because you 100 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:44,000 Speaker 1: started twice as to what would be a forty yard dash. 101 00:06:44,040 --> 00:06:47,000 Speaker 1: She was in their headquarters in New York, so they 102 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 1: didn't have forty yards to run straight. They gave some 103 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:54,160 Speaker 1: journalists the opportunity This is on the day of the 104 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 1: the NFL draft um And there were several things that 105 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: I knew going in that we would not make it 106 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:06,600 Speaker 1: ideal for me. One they wanted us to wear the 107 00:07:06,600 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: their new cleats, which I'm just not a natural cleats. 108 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: I'd rather wear running shoes. Two it was on like 109 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 1: some sod type surface, you know, that was kind of slippery. 110 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 1: And three I was running a half marathon two weeks 111 00:07:22,880 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: later and I really didn't feel like carrying my A 112 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 1: C L. So there was a lot of tentativeness. These 113 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 1: are not excuses I am not I'm not saying this 114 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: is why I ran it. I ran a six point 115 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 1: nine nine, which is, you know, slower than rich Eysen's 116 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 1: and the one that. But people really were making fun 117 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 1: of my form, how I didn't lift my feet up 118 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 1: and all this. And it's all good to me because 119 00:07:47,080 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: I I don't pride myself on speed. I pride myself 120 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 1: on actually running long distance. But people had a lot 121 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:57,280 Speaker 1: of fun at at my expense, and I read it 122 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: with lee And as long as you know you're talking 123 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 1: about me, and you can love me or hate me, 124 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 1: I'm fine with it. But it managed to generate You 125 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 1: would think someone just running a forty that there wouldn't 126 00:08:10,360 --> 00:08:13,280 Speaker 1: be these type of feelings that would be evoked. But 127 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 1: I guess, uh, it brought out the best and worst 128 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:24,400 Speaker 1: of people. Alright. So for again, you were trending on 129 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: Twitter for that. And so look, you know how to 130 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: piket people on Twitter. You know how to move the 131 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 1: conversation on Twitter. Uh, we all came up with an 132 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 1: idea for a new project that you're going to launch 133 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 1: on Twitter. Today is Monday. You're gonna launch it today. 134 00:08:42,679 --> 00:08:47,240 Speaker 1: People can engage with it the entire week. Um, tell 135 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: us what you're gonna do. So basically, a lot of 136 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: a lot of the time when I first started on Twitter, 137 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:59,480 Speaker 1: Twitter did not have any polling, uh the device, and 138 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 1: so I had vote A for yes and B for no, 139 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:04,920 Speaker 1: and then I had someone counted up. It was. It 140 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:08,760 Speaker 1: was enough of a bit that when I asked Chrissie 141 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 1: Teagan a way back to sign a Sports illustrated the 142 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 1: photo of her, she wrote, do you like this? Vote 143 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 1: A for yes, B for no. Then I still have that. 144 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: But that so it became that much of a thing 145 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 1: that I was doing that a lot. So, um, we 146 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: you know, polling I've done a lot of polling, probably 147 00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:35,320 Speaker 1: more than anyone else on Twitter, and i've you know, 148 00:09:35,360 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 1: there are certain topics that just seemed to hit, whether 149 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:42,959 Speaker 1: it's relevant in the moment, or whether it's a standard 150 00:09:43,080 --> 00:09:46,560 Speaker 1: thing that people just feel passionate about, whether it's the 151 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 1: in and out versus Shake shack five guys debate which 152 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 1: always goes nuts. You know, Twitter is very much a 153 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 1: kind of in the moment and what do you think 154 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 1: of this? And leading to the we're the phrase that 155 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: has another thing that people make fun of me, the 156 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 1: water cooler people talking at the water cooler over. So 157 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 1: we've decided to to do this bit on Twitter. It's 158 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:18,960 Speaker 1: starting today. It's called ranked, and essentially what it is 159 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 1: is I will go out UM and say, okay, this 160 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 1: is our topic. You tell me what your favorites are 161 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:32,040 Speaker 1: in this topic, and then we will the next day 162 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:37,720 Speaker 1: put out a poll of the four most popular UM 163 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 1: and then over a forty eight hour time frame, you 164 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 1: will choose which one is your favorite. So the Twitter 165 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: verse gets to decide, and then we make a a 166 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:53,839 Speaker 1: show or a podcast, or we'll have a conversation over 167 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 1: that winner and talk to someone in the Twitter sphere 168 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:03,800 Speaker 1: or someone who knows something about that topic. Um, and 169 00:11:03,840 --> 00:11:06,319 Speaker 1: make it a whole big thing. And and so it's 170 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 1: like you it's like chose your own adventure, but it's 171 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:12,679 Speaker 1: it's crowdsourcing it. And I'm I think it's a good 172 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 1: idea and I'm really excited to do it. I'm excited 173 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:19,760 Speaker 1: about it too. You you engave people on Twitter better 174 00:11:19,760 --> 00:11:22,439 Speaker 1: than anything. And so, um, if you were to rank 175 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:27,719 Speaker 1: your forty or dash, you're trolling of the l s 176 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: U gymnastics team and you're singing of one shining moment, 177 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: how would you rank those in terms of your Twitter 178 00:11:35,520 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 1: influencer lifestyle best to worst. Ah, that's a good one. Um, 179 00:11:42,679 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 1: I think the the one shining moment. I would do 180 00:11:47,160 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 1: one just because you know, to me, that's like I 181 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 1: just wanted to have fun and blasted out and I 182 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 1: didn't care what people thought. But I knew how people 183 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: would think. I knew that people would go crazy over it. Um. 184 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: So I felt like I liked how I knew that 185 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 1: there was kind of this gap, and we filled the 186 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 1: gap with content that people would like. Um too, I 187 00:12:12,679 --> 00:12:15,679 Speaker 1: would say the LSU gymnastics thing because it's a little 188 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:20,320 Speaker 1: bit different. Um, it just it just was I just 189 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 1: I just wanted to have it take. And I also, again, 190 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 1: I'm self aware. I knew what was going to happen. Um. 191 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 1: But but it's not like I do it as a device. 192 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 1: I do it and I'm proud of it because I 193 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:38,120 Speaker 1: believe in it. Um. It's not quite the uh, your 194 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:41,439 Speaker 1: kid getting a trophy for coming in fourth place or 195 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:44,520 Speaker 1: a certificate for something you didn't win. But I thought 196 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:47,679 Speaker 1: it was worth pointing out. And the way people reacted, 197 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:50,559 Speaker 1: even if they reacted negatively, showed that it was worth 198 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:53,600 Speaker 1: pointing out. And then you know, the forty yard dash, 199 00:12:53,679 --> 00:12:57,599 Speaker 1: I think is the last UM. But it's okay. I'm 200 00:12:57,640 --> 00:12:59,920 Speaker 1: I knew that I wasn't going to run the fastest. 201 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:04,560 Speaker 1: Guess what, you wouldn't either, So I think people don't 202 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 1: even know how they look when they run, but they 203 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 1: just assumed that I look worse than everyone else. Um. 204 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 1: But I also liked that I have in the back pocket. 205 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 1: I also like that I have in my back pocket 206 00:13:16,559 --> 00:13:19,640 Speaker 1: that Hey. Two weeks later, I ran a I ran 207 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 1: a half marathon where only one of my miles was 208 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:27,040 Speaker 1: over ten minutes. Um. So like you could call me 209 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 1: the worst athlete in the world. But I'm I'm not. 210 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 1: I'm just I just walked like a duck and never 211 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 1: got my when run like a duck and never got 212 00:13:34,360 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 1: my feet corrected as a child for season. Who alright? 213 00:13:38,200 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: That like we all look worse in video than we think. 214 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 1: You know, a couple of years where you know, growing up, 215 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:45,760 Speaker 1: I was playing basketball with my friends every single day 216 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:48,360 Speaker 1: and we're like, let's videotape this. So you said, it 217 00:13:48,520 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 1: came and we videotaped it. Then we watched it and 218 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:54,840 Speaker 1: we were so much slower and worse than the way 219 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 1: we thought we looked when we were actually in the 220 00:13:57,800 --> 00:13:59,360 Speaker 1: middle of the game. So let me asked me my 221 00:13:59,400 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 1: last question here, yeah, us my last question. There's my 222 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:06,080 Speaker 1: last question. Go alright, go ahead, tell me your context. No, 223 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 1: the only context people have are elite athletes who have 224 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:14,240 Speaker 1: practiced for a year. They don't have videos themselves running 225 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 1: anything Like I was deceptively slow. You think I'm like 226 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:21,600 Speaker 1: a little guy, and I'm like relatively coordinated, so you 227 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 1: think I'd be fast, and I was like I was 228 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 1: making moves that they might as well have been in 229 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 1: slow motion. Um, all right, so now we've gotten through this, 230 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 1: tell me what ranked is going to be about what 231 00:14:33,800 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 1: is the subject for Ranked this week? It better be timely, 232 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 1: It better owned the conversation in Twitter, because that's all 233 00:14:40,480 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 1: that matters. You need to be a facilitator. You need 234 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 1: to be like the Damian Lillard of Twitter this week 235 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 1: with Ranked. So it has to be It would either 236 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 1: be two things. It would it would it would either 237 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: be uh the worst companies that went public because of Uber. 238 00:14:59,280 --> 00:15:01,720 Speaker 1: But I think one that's going to take over more 239 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:07,680 Speaker 1: is going to be what's the best show of all time? 240 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 1: The best series? Because we have the Game of Thrones 241 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 1: finale coming up. Um and admittedly I think, you know, 242 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 1: I mean, my my favorite series is probably I'm gonna 243 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:25,800 Speaker 1: say it, I'm gonna say it the Wonder Years. Um 244 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:28,800 Speaker 1: and and people can again make fun of me for saying, 245 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 1: what wait after your fourteen nothing else happened. Listen, We're 246 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:37,280 Speaker 1: we're all nostalgic about our childhood, but we want to 247 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 1: hear from you kind of whether you think Game of 248 00:15:39,640 --> 00:15:42,600 Speaker 1: Thrones is going to be in the top four or 249 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:47,520 Speaker 1: you know, whether it's Homeland or um, you know, and 250 00:15:47,680 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 1: any any of the show is Obviously it's gonna be 251 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:52,520 Speaker 1: tough for us to go through all of them, but 252 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:55,200 Speaker 1: we're pretty confident we can get down to the to 253 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:57,880 Speaker 1: the final four and then give you forty eight hours 254 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 1: to vote on it, and then spend uh a good 255 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 1: time talking about the one that prevails. We're talking about 256 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: best series of all time, not finales, Yes series. I mean, 257 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 1: I already know the answers. The answers are the West Wing, 258 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 1: Breaking Bad, Seinfeld, Sinfeld, correct I have to be the 259 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 1: top three. If those aren't the top three, I believe 260 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 1: Breaking I don't know about the West Wing. I think 261 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 1: I think Breaking Bad and Seinfeld are definitely two. Um 262 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 1: and I guess Scheme of Thrones has to get in 263 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 1: there by default. We'll have to figure that out. I mean, 264 00:16:37,680 --> 00:16:42,040 Speaker 1: obviously there's a recency bias here, but I do believe 265 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 1: Seinfeld is definitely that. Does Friends get in there? Does 266 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 1: Grade and Altimate get in there? Grays anatomy, this is 267 00:16:51,200 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 1: the beauty. We're gonna let the people vote, So everybody 268 00:16:56,280 --> 00:17:00,560 Speaker 1: go check the hashtag ranked on Twitter. Darren is going 269 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 1: to tweet it out like a madman. We want to 270 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:05,120 Speaker 1: hear what you have to say. We'll figure out what 271 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 1: the final four are gonna be, and then we will 272 00:17:07,800 --> 00:17:09,720 Speaker 1: talk about it later in the week, engage with it 273 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:13,520 Speaker 1: all week long, den Ravel, thanks for coming on the podcast. 274 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 1: Next up on the Favorites, Everybody's favorite at the Action Network, 275 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 1: no joke. Uh. If you want to see people scramble, 276 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 1: if you want to see meetings stop uh, follow Justin 277 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 1: Fan in the Action Network app because we do something 278 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:35,880 Speaker 1: called the fan Wagon and whenever Justin makes a bet, uh, 279 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:37,680 Speaker 1: we all follow him in the app. We all get 280 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:41,560 Speaker 1: an alert and you will immediately see, like our office 281 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: come to a halt because fan Wagon has been so 282 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:49,160 Speaker 1: smart about his bets this year that it's turned into 283 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:52,879 Speaker 1: a bit of a phenomenon in our office. Got him 284 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 1: on the podcast today because we are down to the 285 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 1: Western Conference and Eastern Conference Finals, a lot of activity. 286 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:01,560 Speaker 1: I know he's low did on the Golden State Warriors. 287 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 1: Justin Fan thanks for coming on, brother, Thanks for having 288 00:18:05,560 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 1: me on. UM excited to talk to The basketball has 289 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:12,400 Speaker 1: been really really good lately, to great Game Seven's on Sunday, 290 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 1: then the Warriors Rockets Game six. I mean, we've just 291 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 1: been spoiled by really good basketball earlyist so UM expecting 292 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:21,439 Speaker 1: kind of the same in the in the Conference finals. 293 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 1: Then you're kind of looking forward to dive in here. Alright. 294 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:26,119 Speaker 1: So I know, you know, you were in town in 295 00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:27,720 Speaker 1: New York this past week and so we spent a 296 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:30,960 Speaker 1: lot of time together. I know that you are loaded 297 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 1: on the Warriors to win the title, uh, in multiple ways. 298 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 1: So Saturday night, Um, the whenever the game was, it 299 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 1: was a Saturday night the Rockets and the Warriors? Was 300 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:45,439 Speaker 1: that game six? Is it Friday night? When was that? 301 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:50,639 Speaker 1: It was Friday nightday? So when you're watching that game, 302 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:54,719 Speaker 1: how are you strategizing? How are you thinking about? All right, 303 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:56,840 Speaker 1: I've got the Warriors in the finals. Do I do 304 00:18:56,920 --> 00:18:59,439 Speaker 1: anything with this game? Do I heade starting? Now? What 305 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:03,439 Speaker 1: is your thinking there? Yeah? So the the line was, 306 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 1: you know, pretty substantial, So I didn't see much value 307 00:19:07,840 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 1: hedging at that time. So I kind of viewed Game 308 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 1: six of a free role and away from me kind 309 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:13,639 Speaker 1: of to evaluate what I was going to do in 310 00:19:13,680 --> 00:19:16,520 Speaker 1: Game seven. If they looked really really bad and if 311 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 1: I was really concerned with how they were able to 312 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 1: generate their offense and how things looked without k D, 313 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:24,120 Speaker 1: then I would hedge a little bit more in Game 314 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:27,399 Speaker 1: seven and bet Rockets money line. Um, So I just 315 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 1: kind of, you know, you did kind of as a 316 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 1: dress rehearsal. Honestly, I was not expecting the Warriors to 317 00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 1: come away with a win there, So I was pleasantly surprised. Um. 318 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 1: But yeah, for me, it was kind of a wait 319 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:39,440 Speaker 1: and see approach. I wanted to see how they looked 320 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: before I made a decision heading into game seven. You know, Uh, 321 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 1: you and I think we talked about this. We're doing 322 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:49,679 Speaker 1: this new project where we're gonna sort of simulate NBA 323 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:53,120 Speaker 1: two game NBA two K games and so, and then 324 00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 1: put lines on of Shaun Corner, one of the guys 325 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:59,400 Speaker 1: on our team, who's a brilliant sort of model and projectionist. Uh, 326 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 1: was gonna work with me on this, and so I 327 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:04,119 Speaker 1: did it this weekend. I did um the two thousand, 328 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:08,880 Speaker 1: fifteen sixteen Warriors versus the current Warriors, with the key 329 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:12,879 Speaker 1: difference being Kevin Durant on one team Harrison Barnes on 330 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 1: the fifteen sixteen team. Uh. If you had to project, Uh, 331 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:25,639 Speaker 1: what do you think the line on that game would be? Wow? Um, 332 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:29,879 Speaker 1: I mean Warriors minus this this this Trent group of 333 00:20:29,880 --> 00:20:33,160 Speaker 1: the Warriors minus three and a half four, um, something 334 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 1: like that. Um, that team kind of had a little 335 00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 1: bit more depth. I believe so, Um, you know, I 336 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 1: think it would be pretty competitive, but um, yeah, I 337 00:20:44,280 --> 00:20:45,879 Speaker 1: think it'd be probably a couple of points. What do 338 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 1: you think. I was in the same camp and actually 339 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 1: Corner Shaan Corner before he simulated any of the games, 340 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:58,360 Speaker 1: handicapped it at the current Warriors at minus three. Then 341 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:00,440 Speaker 1: each of us played the games we play. It's six 342 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:05,640 Speaker 1: games total. Uh, the current Warriors won by an average 343 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 1: of eighteen points per game. They won four of those games, 344 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 1: and the fifteen sixteen Warriors won two of the games, um, 345 00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 1: one by eight, one by I think nineteen. Um, So 346 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,800 Speaker 1: Corner made the number, made the total to one and 347 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:25,000 Speaker 1: a half, and he made the side current Warriors minus 348 00:21:25,040 --> 00:21:30,159 Speaker 1: seven and a half. Yeah, I mean that's substantial. And 349 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:33,040 Speaker 1: I think step was on another level than he was 350 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 1: and then he is now. Um, I think that kind 351 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 1: of the factors in as well. And like I said, 352 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 1: I think they had a little bit more better play 353 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 1: from their bench players. Um, the guys like Bogett, Uh 354 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:45,760 Speaker 1: you know do that the fifteen sixteen begum was way 355 00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:49,160 Speaker 1: more effective. Um, they had some a decent bench mob 356 00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 1: in Barbosa most states. Um, you know slag Deally, I mean, 357 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:55,440 Speaker 1: they had some guys there that, um, you know, we're 358 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 1: a little better and a little deeper than this current group, 359 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:01,480 Speaker 1: but UM yeah, I probably stick to three and a half. Four. 360 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:05,640 Speaker 1: That's interesting, all right. So now we got a Western 361 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:07,720 Speaker 1: Conference finals of the Warriors and the Blazers. Did you 362 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:11,400 Speaker 1: is this? Is this what you saw happening? I thought 363 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 1: Denver would win, um game seven. I mean I thought 364 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 1: they hold home court. I bet the Blazer second half, um, 365 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 1: thinking they'd be able to you know, start hitting a 366 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,360 Speaker 1: little bit, you know, a couple more shots. Um, dame, 367 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 1: would you know not get not say I cold from three? 368 00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 1: But um, yeah, I definitely didn't expect this. And you know, 369 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 1: I'm really excited for this, this uh this matchup here. 370 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:35,960 Speaker 1: You know I got step In Clay versus Damon c J. 371 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 1: You know you've got step versus brother Steth games from Oakland, So, um, 372 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:42,480 Speaker 1: this is gonna be really fun and and you know, 373 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 1: excited to see how this one plays up. So what's 374 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 1: your prediction? How do you see a plane out? How 375 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:52,159 Speaker 1: do you play uh finals like this? I mean I 376 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 1: have Warriors in five right now, and I think, um, 377 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 1: you know you kind of look at how you know 378 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 1: the Warriors are gonna defend in DJ. I don't really 379 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:03,920 Speaker 1: have much concern there. Gave and they just came off 380 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 1: a series where they had to, you know, keep hard 381 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 1: and CB three in check. Um. They've had good success 382 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:12,840 Speaker 1: in the regular season defending those guys. Plays defended game 383 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 1: held in the thirty seven percent shooting, steps defended CJ. 384 00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 1: McCollums held them the seven percent shooting. And I think 385 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:21,760 Speaker 1: the difference in this series between these two teams, you 386 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 1: have these dynamic backcourts, the difference is going to be Draymond. Um. 387 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:30,840 Speaker 1: You know, we all know Draymond defensive value. Um. The 388 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 1: difference in this series between the two teams is gonna 389 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 1: be Um. The Blazers don't don't how the god like 390 00:23:36,600 --> 00:23:39,640 Speaker 1: out on office and UM, we saw Game six. Man, 391 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:43,119 Speaker 1: you run that step Draymond pick and roll. It's really 392 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 1: really hard to defend. You're either gonna leave step one 393 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 1: on one or you're gonna play four on three with 394 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 1: Draymond leading, you know, the charge downhill. I mean it's 395 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:56,320 Speaker 1: really really tough. So Um, the Blazers, I just don't 396 00:23:56,320 --> 00:24:00,720 Speaker 1: see them having enough players around Damon CJ to stick 397 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:02,840 Speaker 1: with the Warriors in this one. And you know, Rodney 398 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 1: Hood just had a knee injury in Game seven. That's 399 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 1: gonna be really big because he was basically the series 400 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:11,199 Speaker 1: MVP for them. You know, he was really really important 401 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:14,880 Speaker 1: for them. So um, yeah, I I have a hard 402 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 1: time seeing um, you know, penis cancer surviying this series, 403 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 1: defending to pick and roll with Steph Curry. Um. You know, 404 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:25,919 Speaker 1: they have two starters in Alfarukamnu Mohrklets who have been 405 00:24:25,960 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 1: basically unplayable, and they will haunt Game seven basically on 406 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 1: a massive outlier game from Evan Turner. So um, it's 407 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 1: been a great series, great story for the Blazers so far. Um. 408 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 1: You know, they've had deal with death of Paul Allen, John, 409 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 1: the Begyn um, the injury, to the use of Nurkic. 410 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 1: I mean, this has been a really easy team to 411 00:24:47,680 --> 00:24:50,320 Speaker 1: root for. But I just don't see them having you know, 412 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 1: enough enough talent here to really hang with the Warriors, 413 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 1: and you have tiving to rent kind of looming. I 414 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 1: mean I think you know, you probably returned to the 415 00:24:57,840 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 1: game three or Game four and that you know, that's 416 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,080 Speaker 1: kind of a car in the back pocket that the 417 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:05,439 Speaker 1: Warriors can play here if they really have to. What 418 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 1: do you think of when you hear people say the 419 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:14,920 Speaker 1: Warriors are a better team without Kevin Durant. I think 420 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 1: it's true to an extent. They play a much better 421 00:25:19,280 --> 00:25:23,440 Speaker 1: offensive brand of basketball there Stylistically, they're harder to defend. 422 00:25:23,480 --> 00:25:26,159 Speaker 1: Like I said, that step Draymond pick and roll is 423 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 1: really really tough. You're rather choosing not to double step 424 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 1: and kind of leaving your defender on island or you're 425 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:37,639 Speaker 1: going you know, you're you're giving Draymond the ball downhill. 426 00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,720 Speaker 1: He's playing four and three. You can find play um 427 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 1: on the you know, behind the perimeter, or you know, 428 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:47,199 Speaker 1: throw an alley you to Andre Gudala or Kamal Mooney. Like, 429 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:51,200 Speaker 1: it's really really tough to defend the Warriors um when 430 00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 1: they kind of play that brand of basketball, and it's 431 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:55,840 Speaker 1: kind of picked your poison with Katie, you know, you 432 00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,640 Speaker 1: have to defend them, you know, one on one in isolation. 433 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:02,920 Speaker 1: I think the ideal, um, you know, blend here is 434 00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 1: kind of blend those two together, you know, kind of 435 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 1: blend a little bit more pick and roll, a little 436 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,719 Speaker 1: bit more team basketball with Katie, And you know, I 437 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 1: think that's kind of the aspect of they're kind of 438 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 1: missing when you know they played Katie a lot of 439 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:16,640 Speaker 1: times the offense get bogged down, they'll have to kind 440 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 1: of rely on Katie hitting you know, tough contested isolation shots. Um. 441 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 1: You know, you know with him, how they've played a 442 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:28,160 Speaker 1: lot more of a team brand of basketball where um, 443 00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:29,720 Speaker 1: you know, it's a lot it's a lot more kind 444 00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 1: of difficult to you know, to defend. And you know 445 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 1: so many guys are involved that, um you know, um, 446 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,840 Speaker 1: and you kind of put the ball on step hands 447 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 1: and it's really tough, you know, to to kind of 448 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 1: defend that. All right, let's jump to the other one, 449 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 1: um Bucks and Raptors. Wow, that game by Kwi last 450 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:55,840 Speaker 1: night was insanity and it sets up a really interesting matchup. 451 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 1: And obviously I'm talking about Kauai's last second shot against 452 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 1: the Sixers. Oftentimes in these series, I tend to bet 453 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:06,119 Speaker 1: on the team that has the best player, because in 454 00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,639 Speaker 1: a seven game series or in a multi game series 455 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:10,760 Speaker 1: like this, when you're seeing the same team every night, 456 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 1: you get a pretty good read on their offense. You 457 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,080 Speaker 1: get a pretty good read on their defense, so you 458 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,199 Speaker 1: get an understanding on how to sort of get in 459 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:20,280 Speaker 1: the way. You even saw it like with the Blazers 460 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,920 Speaker 1: and the Nuggets, Like the way the Nuggets would step 461 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,800 Speaker 1: out on Dame sort of like three or four feet 462 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,680 Speaker 1: beyond the arc and the transitions they made and the 463 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:34,520 Speaker 1: adjustments they made that allows for adjustments. But most of 464 00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 1: the best players Janie and Kauai included, I feel like 465 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 1: are kind of impervious two adjustments, right, they can rise 466 00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:45,240 Speaker 1: above adjustments almost literally. How do you handicap a series 467 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:50,560 Speaker 1: in which it is almost entirely about these two guys? Yeah, 468 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:53,960 Speaker 1: I mean you said you generally bet on the best player. 469 00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:55,920 Speaker 1: Who do you think the better players in the series? 470 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:01,159 Speaker 1: I have really hard time with. Yeah, they're number one, 471 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,640 Speaker 1: number two in player efficiency rating in the playoffs. I mean, 472 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,879 Speaker 1: they've been clearly the best two way players um in 473 00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 1: the playoffs so far. So um. Yeah, I mean I'm 474 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 1: really curious to see how how the Raptors are able 475 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 1: to defend the bus here. I mean, they're they're a 476 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 1: team that can win, you know, with bigger, small lineups. 477 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:24,679 Speaker 1: They can win up tempo and transition, or in the 478 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:26,920 Speaker 1: half court they'll bludden you in the paint with the 479 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,080 Speaker 1: honest or hits you with the barag of threes. I mean, 480 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 1: this Bucks team is so tough defend and obviously the 481 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 1: center pieces that is the honest and commit bodies to them. 482 00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,040 Speaker 1: You lost the paint will find shooters and they have 483 00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 1: just shooters. Goalre Middleton, Brogden, Merrittage, Connaton Brook, Lopez, Elia Solvay, 484 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,920 Speaker 1: George Hill. The list goes on. So um for me, 485 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 1: I handicapped this being Bucks and five just because I 486 00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 1: just have a tough time seeing how the Raptors are 487 00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 1: able to figure this thing out. And um, you know really, 488 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 1: you know, we talked about Kauaile obviously, and you know 489 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 1: Pascal Siakam has been great too, But one guy who's 490 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 1: been really really important for them, um in the first 491 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,479 Speaker 1: two rounds has been Marcut soul Um. I think he 492 00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:13,440 Speaker 1: hasn't put the you know, counting sets that people are 493 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 1: are expecting, but his defense on Nick Dusevich in in 494 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 1: the in the first series and his defense on Joel 495 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 1: Embiid in the second round has been phenomenal. I mean, 496 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 1: he has played some incredible defense and for him in 497 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:30,960 Speaker 1: this series, I have a hard time figuring out where 498 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 1: he really fits in. I mean, you have a smaller set, uh, 499 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:37,200 Speaker 1: you know, a stretch, your center in brook Lopez, you'd 500 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 1: like to live on the perimeter. I'm not sure your 501 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 1: sultan really you know, hang with him. So where's Marcus 502 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 1: Sulfate in the series? Um, I don't know. And just 503 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,360 Speaker 1: the Bucks give you so many different looks and can 504 00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 1: play so many different lives and styles that I just 505 00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 1: have a hard time seeing that turning our Toronto keeping 506 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 1: up here, you know when you put it that way, 507 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 1: like I'm thinking about who are the secondary assets? Right, 508 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 1: So let's say you double team or even triple team 509 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 1: you Honice, he can throw it to Chris Middleton. Who's 510 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,400 Speaker 1: Kauai going to throw it to Kyle Lowry? Like are 511 00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:14,960 Speaker 1: you really going to trust Kyle Lowry? You know, yeah, 512 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 1: he's you know, he's a little banged up, so like, 513 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 1: you know, there's some inconsistency there. And also he hasn't 514 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 1: been in the spot where it's like Chris Middleton is 515 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 1: an all star, Like I have a lot more faith 516 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 1: in Chris Middleton than I do in Siam at this point, 517 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 1: even though I do think he's sort of a guy 518 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:34,440 Speaker 1: on the rise. Um, I need you to explain to 519 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 1: people you have created something in the Fantasy Labs NBA 520 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:43,360 Speaker 1: handle that like for insiders, and it crossed a hundred 521 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,680 Speaker 1: thousand followers this year, and it's pretty amazing accomplishment. UM 522 00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:50,680 Speaker 1: for insiders of the NBA and inside NBA bettors, it's 523 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:56,480 Speaker 1: become indispensable explain to people what you've built. I mean, 524 00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 1: I think you know, the goal when we create the 525 00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 1: fantasy that the NBA handle it just basically, if I was, 526 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,760 Speaker 1: you know, a DFS player, if I was a sports better, 527 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:10,400 Speaker 1: what information would I want? And you know, I want 528 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,959 Speaker 1: to have it fashion than anybody else and have the 529 00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 1: information be more accurate and more reliable than any other source. 530 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 1: And you know, I think that's kind of what we've 531 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 1: done with that, you know, with that account, is with 532 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:27,320 Speaker 1: that feed is just give um, you know, give betters 533 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 1: and DFS players the best information possible. And you know, 534 00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,520 Speaker 1: for me as a better, I think, you know, I 535 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 1: try avoid it. I try to avoid getting spreads and 536 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 1: total straight up as much as possible. Meaning if there's 537 00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:43,640 Speaker 1: like no news, um, no movement at all in the line, 538 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 1: it's pretty standard. I tried to avoid those situations as possible. 539 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 1: For me, I'm constantly looking to find edges and to 540 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 1: exploit them. And one of those UM ways. One of 541 00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:57,800 Speaker 1: those edges that I found obviously is with news and um, 542 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,160 Speaker 1: for me, you know, on a typical NBA day, I'll 543 00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,000 Speaker 1: read you know, five thousand to ten thousand tweets today 544 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:06,760 Speaker 1: from you know, NBA beat reporters and writers. I'll you know, 545 00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 1: read dirty articles and watch a ton of video from 546 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 1: shoot around. So I'm just constantly trying to dive into 547 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:18,920 Speaker 1: those um pieces of information to find nuggets and and 548 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 1: and kind of leans. If it guy's questionable, well you know, 549 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 1: I'll try to you know, gather as much information to 550 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:27,959 Speaker 1: have a lean whether he's more probable or doubtful than 551 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:31,760 Speaker 1: only kind of use that information, um to bet news 552 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 1: and jump onlines before they moved. I mean, I mean, 553 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 1: because if you're a better I think what you're trying 554 00:32:36,560 --> 00:32:38,960 Speaker 1: to do more often than not is just to aim 555 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:41,800 Speaker 1: to consistently beat the closing line as much as possible. 556 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 1: So um, yeah, for me, that's just become a part 557 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 1: of a big part of how I bet games, and um, 558 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 1: you know, it's kind of worked out for me pretty 559 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:54,560 Speaker 1: well so far. Yeah, what you and J J k 560 00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 1: A and J person do with the fantasy who abs 561 00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:00,560 Speaker 1: NBA handle that is exactly why we jump on the 562 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:03,239 Speaker 1: fan wagon when you make a bet because we know, 563 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:07,160 Speaker 1: like the information is coming in and you're making the 564 00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 1: move before the number has moved, and uh, we just 565 00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:15,400 Speaker 1: need to get on that as quickly as possible. Yeah, 566 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,800 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, most of most of the time 567 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:19,440 Speaker 1: I worked out, except for that final day of the 568 00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 1: season when you have like five Blazers players that are 569 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 1: bench players. They played forty eight minutes and you know, 570 00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,240 Speaker 1: I'll beat the closing line by five points and still 571 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 1: just get absolutely um taking to the cleaners. So most 572 00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 1: of the time it works. Sometimes it doesn't, but you know, 573 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 1: it's it's really just about you know, the process obviously. 574 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 1: So yeah, I think that's you know, big edge that 575 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 1: you know we've been we've been looking to exploit and 576 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 1: and try to get the most out of alright. Justin 577 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 1: fan of the Action Network, lead editor for Fantasy Labs, 578 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 1: NBA News, part of the Action Network. Thanks for coming 579 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 1: on the podcast, buddy, Thanks for having me a banner 580 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 1: epic episode of the Favorites. We conclude with Jason Sobel, 581 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 1: Action Network golf writer, the premier golf writer of his generation, 582 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:14,000 Speaker 1: calling from his parents house in Long Island, where he 583 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 1: is staying while he covers the PGA Championship at Bethpage. 584 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 1: When you and I were working together at ESPN, did 585 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:24,840 Speaker 1: you ever have to stay at your parents house for 586 00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:29,279 Speaker 1: an event? Uh, it happened a couple of times, but 587 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:33,440 Speaker 1: we just so have happened where I grew up, basically 588 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,279 Speaker 1: right between Schneekock and beath Page. And so now, for 589 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:39,720 Speaker 1: the second time in the last eleven months, I'm staying 590 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 1: with my parents. Not always staying with my parents, not 591 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,759 Speaker 1: always staying with my parents started a golf tournament, but 592 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:48,680 Speaker 1: staying with my parents during a major championship, which that's 593 00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 1: obviously the biggest weeks of the year. So I'm doing 594 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 1: that mostly because, Uh, I love the company that I 595 00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:56,799 Speaker 1: worked with, and I want to save you guys money. 596 00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,359 Speaker 1: I know those expenses are coming straight out of your pocket, Chad, 597 00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,320 Speaker 1: so um, I slew your first class at some caviar 598 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,200 Speaker 1: in the airport, but I wanted to cut down on expenses. 599 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:08,480 Speaker 1: So I'm staying with the folks this week. Only the 600 00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 1: best for you, so you have earned it. That's awesome. 601 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,480 Speaker 1: I just have this vision of like your mom calling 602 00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,560 Speaker 1: you while you're in the tent talking to Tiger Woods honey, 603 00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:23,160 Speaker 1: what are you gonna be home for dinner? It literally happens, 604 00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,000 Speaker 1: and it's not. My parents are great about it, they 605 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,879 Speaker 1: really are. Um, it's basically like I can crash here 606 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 1: and you know, I got a key and whatever I 607 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,560 Speaker 1: need to do. It's fine. There's no curfew. But there's 608 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,000 Speaker 1: a little of like, hey, are you gonna be home 609 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,319 Speaker 1: at seven for dinner? Uh? You know, shul I keep 610 00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:39,839 Speaker 1: dinner on, Like, what do you want me to do? 611 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:43,600 Speaker 1: I just I don't know. That's something usual question I 612 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 1: get from the courtyard at Marriott, people who don't seem 613 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:49,880 Speaker 1: to mind when I come and go. But it's okay, 614 00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:53,080 Speaker 1: it's fine. It's all awkward. That's fine. I love the 615 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,920 Speaker 1: idea of, like you're saying, there's no there's no curfew. 616 00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:00,600 Speaker 1: It's almost impossible to sort of it's im possible to 617 00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 1: be like a guy who doesn't live at home, Like 618 00:36:05,719 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 1: you're a parent, you've lived out of the house forever, 619 00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 1: and yet you like when you go home, it's still 620 00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:14,560 Speaker 1: kind of like you're fifteen years old, very much. I mean, 621 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:18,040 Speaker 1: it's like, at some point this week I will go out. 622 00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:21,200 Speaker 1: You know. Other writers are staying in Huntington, which about 623 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:23,160 Speaker 1: twenty minutes from where I am an ice slip, and 624 00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:25,440 Speaker 1: I'll go and meet them for a beer or something. 625 00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:27,439 Speaker 1: And as I'm walking out of the house, my parents 626 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:30,600 Speaker 1: will be well, where are you going? And yeah, not 627 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 1: more out of curiosity than questioning, but just hey, where 628 00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:35,839 Speaker 1: are you going? Whore you going out with? I'm gonna 629 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:37,399 Speaker 1: go meet up with some of the guys. We're gonna 630 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,319 Speaker 1: grab beer. All right, We'll be careful driving home. You know, 631 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,719 Speaker 1: don't have more than one because you know, Okay, Yeah, 632 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,319 Speaker 1: I'm forty three years old, I've got two kids, I've 633 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,760 Speaker 1: got a wife, I got a mortgage, I got car payments. 634 00:36:49,080 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 1: I get it. Thank you. But yes, you're you're absolutely 635 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:55,759 Speaker 1: right about that, Chantet. There's in some sense it still 636 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 1: feels like you're fifteen years old answering questions. I don't 637 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:01,319 Speaker 1: even know how we're getting by as a company. All right. 638 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,279 Speaker 1: So well, so let's talk about what you actually have 639 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:07,560 Speaker 1: to do out there this week? Uh Tiger Woods. Yeah, seriously, 640 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:12,360 Speaker 1: not just hang out with your Tiger Woods first major 641 00:37:12,760 --> 00:37:19,000 Speaker 1: since uh, the major of all majors that ended all majors. Um, 642 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 1: he's the leader, uh in terms of odds. Go check 643 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:23,879 Speaker 1: it out. Action network dot Com. I think he's eight 644 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:27,960 Speaker 1: to one right now. Clearly there's no value there. So 645 00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 1: let's talk about the board. Let's talk about where you're 646 00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:34,320 Speaker 1: seeing the value. Well, I mean, after what we started 647 00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:37,440 Speaker 1: gust the last month, are we do for like a 648 00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:41,239 Speaker 1: Sean mckill wins by seven kind of major championship? I mean, 649 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:43,560 Speaker 1: don't don't we all kinds deserve that we don't deserve 650 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,160 Speaker 1: like a few of these really good ones in the 651 00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:48,960 Speaker 1: row we sort of deserved, like all right, like I 652 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,440 Speaker 1: could be let down. We had we had one of 653 00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:54,480 Speaker 1: the greatest major championships of all time last month. This 654 00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:56,640 Speaker 1: one can be a letdown. That's you know, we'll deserve 655 00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:00,640 Speaker 1: nice things every single month. But um, it's great momentum 656 00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:03,600 Speaker 1: first of all for the new golf schedule, which, as 657 00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:08,480 Speaker 1: you know now as majors every month from April through July. 658 00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:13,280 Speaker 1: And UH the coming off the momentum of UH tigers 659 00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:16,759 Speaker 1: winning the Master's last month and having all as of 660 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,839 Speaker 1: right now top hundred players UH in the world who 661 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:21,880 Speaker 1: are in this field for the first time ever in 662 00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:24,840 Speaker 1: a major, and being in the biggest media market in 663 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,640 Speaker 1: the world in New York. UH, you're at Beth Page 664 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,400 Speaker 1: it's going to be a big deal this week. I 665 00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:33,440 Speaker 1: think it's going to play for the big hitters. Um 666 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,200 Speaker 1: best stage isn't necessarily I mean, we always think of 667 00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:40,080 Speaker 1: it sort of being fierce and being toothy, just sort 668 00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:43,839 Speaker 1: of having uh, just just a big ballparkt it is, 669 00:38:43,880 --> 00:38:48,000 Speaker 1: but seventy hundred fifty nine yards, it's not the biggest 670 00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:50,279 Speaker 1: that we've seen. It's not the longest golf course that 671 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:54,239 Speaker 1: we'll see out of the major championships. But um, as 672 00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,160 Speaker 1: Ricky Fowler explained to me a couple of weeks ago, 673 00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:58,919 Speaker 1: and I was at Quail Hollow, he said, look, it's 674 00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:02,160 Speaker 1: not a driver way golf course, and so you're gonna 675 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:03,839 Speaker 1: be hitting a lot of six irons out of the rough. 676 00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,399 Speaker 1: You're gonna be hitting seven irons. And to me, I'd 677 00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:09,239 Speaker 1: rather see a guy who's a big hitter and can 678 00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,759 Speaker 1: knock get way down there, even if he's missing fairways, 679 00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,520 Speaker 1: but be able to hit eight irons repeatedly out of 680 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:16,600 Speaker 1: the rough instead of six irons. I think that's a 681 00:39:16,719 --> 00:39:19,160 Speaker 1: huge advantage for the guys who hit the ball a 682 00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:22,000 Speaker 1: long way. So I've done my ranking, I'm still kind 683 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,640 Speaker 1: of fine tuning it. I haven't filed yet, but rank 684 00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:27,719 Speaker 1: the entire hundred and fifty six man field, and uh, 685 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:29,800 Speaker 1: you will see a lot of the big hitters, a 686 00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,040 Speaker 1: lot of the big names up near the top of 687 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:34,839 Speaker 1: that ranking. I loving you do those rankings. They are 688 00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:38,359 Speaker 1: a they're massive drivers for traffic and subscriptions, but they're 689 00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,919 Speaker 1: also just like I do like that mercenary that way. 690 00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:45,160 Speaker 1: But they're also just like so detailed and interesting and 691 00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:48,400 Speaker 1: like high utility with these great nuggets like you just 692 00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:51,160 Speaker 1: added about Fowler sort of it's not a driver and 693 00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:54,400 Speaker 1: wedge golf course, like that's just inside the rope stuff 694 00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:58,279 Speaker 1: that that has made you you. Um here is the 695 00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:02,200 Speaker 1: beat that is going around owned in slack right now 696 00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:05,239 Speaker 1: at the Action Network. And they're one of the reasons 697 00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:06,640 Speaker 1: I think people like him is because of what you 698 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:12,719 Speaker 1: just mentioned. H Bubba Watson at sixty two one right now, 699 00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:16,080 Speaker 1: big hitter off the tea. Why are we talking about 700 00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:18,439 Speaker 1: Bubba Watson at six two one is one of our group? 701 00:40:18,520 --> 00:40:21,960 Speaker 1: That's all right, Well, I've got a couple of different 702 00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,680 Speaker 1: reasons why I really like Bubba this week and one 703 00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,840 Speaker 1: big one why I don't. And so I've been wrestling 704 00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:29,400 Speaker 1: with Bubba. I think on my list right now I've 705 00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,879 Speaker 1: got him number six or seven going into the week, 706 00:40:32,920 --> 00:40:34,440 Speaker 1: and like I said, I'm still fine tuning in a 707 00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:36,600 Speaker 1: little bit. I'm holding off on filing a few more 708 00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:39,319 Speaker 1: hours because I kind of want to weigh a few 709 00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,480 Speaker 1: things and we'll get a few more things. And but 710 00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:45,239 Speaker 1: Bubba's up there. Um. I like him obviously the obvious reason. 711 00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:47,359 Speaker 1: He h's a long way off the TA. We all 712 00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:51,520 Speaker 1: know that. Secondally, he loves courses where he could have sightlines. 713 00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,800 Speaker 1: He doesn't like wide open golf courses where he doesn't 714 00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,080 Speaker 1: know where to aim. He needs trees in the background, 715 00:40:57,080 --> 00:40:59,080 Speaker 1: he needs the power line here and there. He needs 716 00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:01,960 Speaker 1: something to look at and say, I'm gonna hit it 717 00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,960 Speaker 1: at that with a twenty two yard cut, And so 718 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:08,200 Speaker 1: that helps him a lot, and I think this plays 719 00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:10,880 Speaker 1: into his game. Second Certainly, he likes to work the 720 00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,560 Speaker 1: ball both ways. He wants to hit it left to right, 721 00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:15,440 Speaker 1: he wants hit it right to left. He can do 722 00:41:15,480 --> 00:41:18,600 Speaker 1: everything except a did straight ball. He doesn't like doing that. 723 00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:23,160 Speaker 1: So I think Beth Page affords him the ability to 724 00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:25,959 Speaker 1: work the ball both ways. All those are really good things. 725 00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:28,480 Speaker 1: He's played well enough this year for his twelve Masters 726 00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:31,160 Speaker 1: last month that I wouldn't be scared to take him 727 00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:34,680 Speaker 1: at all. Here's the downside for Bubba. Bubba has gone 728 00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:38,360 Speaker 1: on record saying he has anxiety. He doesn't like crowds, 729 00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:41,879 Speaker 1: he doesn't like people, he doesn't like people watching him. 730 00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:45,080 Speaker 1: This is going to be the most raucous crowds that 731 00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:48,279 Speaker 1: we've seen, really since the last time there's a major 732 00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:51,960 Speaker 1: championship at beth Page. These are uh New York crowds. 733 00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:55,320 Speaker 1: These are public golf course crowds. These are long islanders, 734 00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:58,719 Speaker 1: These are New Yorkers. They are allowed. And if you 735 00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:00,640 Speaker 1: let them get in your head just a little bit, 736 00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,839 Speaker 1: and if you show some sign of intimidation, they're gonna 737 00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:06,120 Speaker 1: jump all over you. They do that Sergio back in 738 00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:09,600 Speaker 1: two thousand two when he was waggling over the ball 739 00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:12,760 Speaker 1: and they started counting up the waggles they got inside 740 00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,759 Speaker 1: Colin Montgomery, he's had that year. And I can see 741 00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:19,239 Speaker 1: Bubba if he gets a little bit flustered having these 742 00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:22,480 Speaker 1: fans inside his head. And that's the only downside to 743 00:42:22,520 --> 00:42:26,640 Speaker 1: picking Bubba Watson this week. I need to unpack what 744 00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:30,480 Speaker 1: you just said for a second. Bubba Watson aiming for 745 00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:37,320 Speaker 1: having like points of aim, the the detail and specificity 746 00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,840 Speaker 1: with which you can say the degrees to which he 747 00:42:39,880 --> 00:42:43,239 Speaker 1: will cut a ball going from both directions, and then 748 00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:46,480 Speaker 1: the level of anxiety and the way you describe New Yorkers. 749 00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:49,719 Speaker 1: That might be the greatest sixty seconds of golf analysis 750 00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:53,319 Speaker 1: about the PGA Championship I've ever heard, well, thank you, 751 00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:55,600 Speaker 1: the week is earlier, though we can get better than that. 752 00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:59,600 Speaker 1: But no, it's true. I mean, it looks everything points 753 00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:03,279 Speaker 1: to Bubba Watson having a nice week. I mean you 754 00:43:03,280 --> 00:43:04,919 Speaker 1: look at the golf course and said, well, of course 755 00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,040 Speaker 1: really works for him. It's of course that should shoot 756 00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:09,759 Speaker 1: his eye. And for Bubba, more so than almost any 757 00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,799 Speaker 1: other player out there, the course needs to fit his eye. 758 00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:15,640 Speaker 1: If it doesn't, he's done before he even starts. But 759 00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,440 Speaker 1: for Bubba, he needs to walk out there and say, hey, 760 00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:21,840 Speaker 1: this looks right to me. And that's when he plays 761 00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,080 Speaker 1: well and and we see it. There are certain golf 762 00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:30,040 Speaker 1: courses TBC River Highlands in Connecticut, Rivieria out in l A, Augusta, Nashville, 763 00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:33,960 Speaker 1: of course, where Bubba Watson plays well repeatedly, year after year, 764 00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:36,360 Speaker 1: and then there are other golf courses that he returns 765 00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:38,959 Speaker 1: to and never plays well at at all, and there's 766 00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:42,319 Speaker 1: specific reasons for that. First of all, the course has 767 00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:45,160 Speaker 1: to suit his eye. But secondly, I have always thought, 768 00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,239 Speaker 1: especially Augusta, where the fans are not on top of you, 769 00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,520 Speaker 1: the fans are not raw becouse, fans are not yelling 770 00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:53,520 Speaker 1: out at you the entire time. I think that atmosphere, 771 00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:58,400 Speaker 1: those surroundings are the perfect, the perfect thing for for 772 00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:01,399 Speaker 1: Bubba Watson Uh to have around him during a golf 773 00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:04,960 Speaker 1: tournament because they're not yelling Baba booie, they're not yelling 774 00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:08,960 Speaker 1: uh mashed potatoes in your backswing, And I think it 775 00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,080 Speaker 1: doesn't affect him as much. Um, you know, so I 776 00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:13,920 Speaker 1: think that's huge for him. Um. I would look at 777 00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,399 Speaker 1: a few other players Jason Day, I really like this 778 00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:19,799 Speaker 1: week and the course should suit him. Um. But I 779 00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:21,680 Speaker 1: know a lot of people who have had on Jason 780 00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:24,080 Speaker 1: Day and who have taken Jason Day in dfs and 781 00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:28,839 Speaker 1: have UH have gotten in their opinions screwed over by 782 00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,520 Speaker 1: the fact that he's withdrawn. He did that the Arnold 783 00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:34,080 Speaker 1: Palmer Invitational look like he might do that the Masters, 784 00:44:34,080 --> 00:44:36,759 Speaker 1: although he wound up finishing in fifth place even after 785 00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:39,680 Speaker 1: Uh lying on the ground stretching out in the second hall. 786 00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:41,960 Speaker 1: Well you look at it and you say, Okay, there's 787 00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:43,719 Speaker 1: a good course for Jason Day. He looks at the 788 00:44:43,760 --> 00:44:45,960 Speaker 1: models that we have on Fantasy Labs. They really like 789 00:44:46,080 --> 00:44:49,280 Speaker 1: Jason Day. He's up there and everything the stats make sense, 790 00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:52,600 Speaker 1: and yet it's about fifty degrees out here, which first 791 00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:53,920 Speaker 1: of all, chat, I don't know how you guys live 792 00:44:53,920 --> 00:44:57,120 Speaker 1: in these conditions. I live in Connecticut for fifteen years, obviously, 793 00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,440 Speaker 1: like I said, grew up on Long Island. I live 794 00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:01,359 Speaker 1: in Orland. Know now, I don't know. I don't go 795 00:45:01,400 --> 00:45:03,160 Speaker 1: outside and under seventies, So I don't know how you 796 00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:05,680 Speaker 1: guys live in this. Jason Day is not going to 797 00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:08,479 Speaker 1: like this when he walks outside and tries to swing 798 00:45:08,520 --> 00:45:10,840 Speaker 1: on the first see at best page black, and his 799 00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:13,480 Speaker 1: back is not really activated to use the term the 800 00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:16,279 Speaker 1: Tigers uses, so uh, if it's cold out and he's 801 00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:18,680 Speaker 1: trying to swing, it's gonna hurt him a little bit. 802 00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:21,400 Speaker 1: So there are other factors. My My main point of 803 00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:23,239 Speaker 1: all this being there are other factors. We can look 804 00:45:23,239 --> 00:45:25,880 Speaker 1: at models, we can look at how the course fits 805 00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:28,160 Speaker 1: certain players, but you have to look pass out a 806 00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:30,960 Speaker 1: little bit some of these intangibles because they're going to 807 00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,160 Speaker 1: be into play. They're gonna come into play this week. 808 00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:39,920 Speaker 1: Jason Sobel, golf writer for the Action Network. Really golf 809 00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:42,799 Speaker 1: everything for the Action Network. You're like a golf extraordinaire 810 00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:45,960 Speaker 1: um clearly the best writer of your generation when it 811 00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:50,560 Speaker 1: comes to golf, and also maybe your mom's favorite golf writer, 812 00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:56,120 Speaker 1: I hope. So I will tell you a very true story. 813 00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:58,439 Speaker 1: So my grandmother, who is now a hundred years old, 814 00:45:59,000 --> 00:46:01,520 Speaker 1: will And you know, she's been doing this since I've 815 00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,359 Speaker 1: started liking golf. She's been a golf fan for her 816 00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:08,160 Speaker 1: entire life. And she would cut out articles from the 817 00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:10,680 Speaker 1: newspaper and send them to me when I first started 818 00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:13,400 Speaker 1: and Jock, Okay, well that's nice. I guess she's just 819 00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:15,120 Speaker 1: trying to show me kind of what's out there. And 820 00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:17,319 Speaker 1: after a while she would cut have these articles from 821 00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:19,759 Speaker 1: the newspaper, from like the Palm Beach Post she was 822 00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,480 Speaker 1: down in in South Florida, and from you know, the 823 00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:25,080 Speaker 1: Miami Herald. She cut out these articles. I'm so they're going. 824 00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:27,759 Speaker 1: I was sitting next to the guy who wrote that, 825 00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:30,640 Speaker 1: and I asked the actual question to listen to the 826 00:46:30,719 --> 00:46:34,000 Speaker 1: quote that he used in second paragraph. So I'm not sure, 827 00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:35,799 Speaker 1: you know, Grandma I'm not sure what you're sending me, 828 00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:38,440 Speaker 1: but you should probably go on the computer and look 829 00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:40,080 Speaker 1: at what I wrote, because it's better than what that 830 00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:43,799 Speaker 1: guy wrote. But anyway, yes, so you know, not necessarily 831 00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,040 Speaker 1: the favorite golf writer of everyone in the family, I guess, 832 00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:49,360 Speaker 1: but I do think my mom likes some of my stuff. 833 00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:53,680 Speaker 1: Subtle motivation. Thank you Jason Sobel for coming on the 834 00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:56,120 Speaker 1: Favorite Podcast. Talk to you later, have a good week. 835 00:46:57,040 --> 00:47:01,360 Speaker 1: I have to appreciate this has been an bick episode 836 00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:03,960 Speaker 1: of the Favorites. 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