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Speaker 1: The afternoon, How were doing great? Mike, Greg was.

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Speaker 2: Talking the street about how you and Ashton Grant have

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Speaker 2: different purposes for Drake curious how you would break down

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Speaker 2: those two different purposes.

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure exactly what the context of the Could

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Speaker 1: you tell me what the context of the conversation was.

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Speaker 1: I think it was.

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Speaker 2: He was just saying, you guys play different rules and

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Speaker 2: has developed.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I mean Ashton does a I mean, Ascid's

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Speaker 1: a really bright young coach who does a great job of,

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Speaker 1: you know, a lot of a lot of little details,

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Speaker 1: a lot of things that really helped bring the game

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Speaker 1: plan to life. All of our study preparations are cut ups,

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Speaker 1: coverage details, individual technique drills, a lot of little things

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Speaker 1: that are you know, they're big for the quarterback, you know.

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Speaker 1: And so Ashton does a tremendous job of putting all

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Speaker 1: those together every week. And when he has individual time

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Speaker 1: with the qbs, it's always productive because he's either helping

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Speaker 1: helping us get closer to really understanding the opponent that

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Speaker 1: we're getting ready to play, et cetera. And so and then,

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Speaker 1: like I said, you know, sometimes my time is a

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Speaker 1: little bit more big picture and you know, global with

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Speaker 1: the offense and the installation and all that stuff. So

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Speaker 1: I'm not one hundred percent sure if that is what

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Speaker 1: he was referring to, but I'm assuming that's in that ballpark.

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Speaker 1: But no, Ash does a tremendous job with those guys,

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Speaker 1: have a lot of confidence in everything he does. Josha

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Speaker 1: should be get to know them over time. What if

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Speaker 1: he liked maybe more each and every week about the

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Speaker 1: wide receiver group that you have. There's a lot that

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Speaker 1: I like about the receiver group, start with their attitude

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Speaker 1: and the way that they work very unself and I think,

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Speaker 1: you know, that's a position that's very hot and cold.

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Speaker 1: It runs hot and cold, you know, and practice sometimes

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Speaker 1: you may have a practice where you catch nine balls.

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Speaker 1: what the play was dictated. Something else happened. And those

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Speaker 1: They come to work every day, learn it, do it

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Speaker 1: to the best of their ability. They really take coaching well.

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Speaker 1: They got a great position coach who does extra with

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Speaker 1: all of them. They ask for extra meat, extra come

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Speaker 1: the best thing is that they've all been ready to

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Speaker 1: so they're all developing different chemistry. With the quarterback, it's

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Speaker 1: all positive. It's all good chemistry, and just love the

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Speaker 1: way they approach each day. And then the last thing

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Speaker 1: the best way for us to improve at any position

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Speaker 1: Booty wasn't there, Hollins wasn't there, Pop wasn't there. You know,

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Speaker 1: which obviously goes a long way towards any position group

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Speaker 1: to see. Well, there's a lot of little things that

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Speaker 1: really well, Josh. I know that's changes week to week.

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Speaker 1: You guys are intentional about the volume emotion you use

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Speaker 2: You're second to league right now by EPA for play

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Speaker 1: So I'm curious what you see driving that and if

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Speaker 1: You know, I think motion is is like I said,

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Speaker 1: So if motion is one of those things that you

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Speaker 1: in terms of leverage adjustmant by the defense softer coverage whatever,

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Speaker 1: Laitue period. You know, just in general, take them all,

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Speaker 1: He you know, the the number one thing that's that

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Speaker 1: rest of it. Very powerful, disruptive, really good teammate too,

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Speaker 1: you know. So again, there's not enough superlatives to describe

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Speaker 1: and that's certainly going to go a long way to

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Speaker 1: there's a challenge with scheme, uh certainly with the front

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Speaker 1: opportunists to the secondary catch the ball when you make

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Speaker 1: Different style of defense than last week. Certainly hard at

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Speaker 1: work at getting to know him. Now we'll see one

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Speaker 1: of Kyle Williams ste How close do you feel like

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Speaker 2: It seems like he guys been trying to work him in. Yeah, close.

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Speaker 1: Do you think he's getting certainly well. I think some

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Speaker 1: You know. So I think the fact that he continues

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Speaker 1: you know, I mean, so he's he's in there running plays.

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Speaker 1: You know, last week he subbed in for Diggs. He

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Speaker 1: I'm excited when he gets his opportunity, I really am.

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Speaker 2: Do you think that pass protection stuff, just seeing it's

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Speaker 2: quite a bit of you know, bax chipping, tight end

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Speaker 2: stand in, moving pockets, things like that. I'd like a

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Speaker 2: conscious effort to make it as easy on the offensive

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think doing different things in general is

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Speaker 1: think sitting in one thing and saying hey, this is

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Speaker 1: what we're doing. When we're in these formations and that's

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Speaker 1: all we're doing, can get very difficult, you know, because

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Speaker 1: people start to tee off on the things you're doing. So,

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Speaker 1: whether it's changing the timing of the passing game, changing

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Speaker 1: the protection, adding a layer of assistance somewhere in the protection,

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Speaker 1: moving the pocket as you mentioned, I think all of

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Speaker 1: those things go into trying to create a productive pass

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Speaker 1: offense so that you're just you're you know, you're giving

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Speaker 1: them enough to think about where it's not the same

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Speaker 1: every time, they're not getting blocked by the same people

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Speaker 1: every time, and it gives the quarterback an opportunity to

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Speaker 1: to you know, change the rhythm of the pass offense

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Speaker 1: in general. So I've always believed in that. I think

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Speaker 1: that helps everybody, not just you know, one lineman or

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Speaker 1: two linemen or the whole group. It's the entire passing offense.

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Speaker 1: I think gets assistance when you do that, and you

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Speaker 1: can be productive doing those things. The most important thing

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Speaker 1: when we do that is that the guys on the

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Speaker 1: field execute, and when they've done a good job of that,

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Speaker 1: we've had an opportunity to be productive in a pass game.

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Speaker 2: Josh, how have you see drinks his confidence growth, specifically

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Speaker 2: on those longer throws.

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Speaker 1: He's been confident in those since I've met him. You

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Speaker 1: got it, Thank you,