1 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 1: There's only so many ways to get the tight end 2 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:11,080 Speaker 1: of football, and Hayden just felt victim to that much. 3 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: Credit to our listener for keeping that to float. You're 4 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:18,319 Speaker 1: a very loyal bunch, and we do appreciate that the 5 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:20,800 Speaker 1: quality will be better, but the content of what you're 6 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 1: saying it is still gonna be terribly The content will 7 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:40,199 Speaker 1: fell be awful. Nothing of value or enterything today, Welcome 8 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 1: into the lounge. Free Agency has officially opened, but with 9 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 1: lots of caveats, and we're gonna get into all that. Uh. 10 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:49,960 Speaker 1: Make and Eye are day three of the new Quarantine 11 00:00:50,440 --> 00:00:54,200 Speaker 1: Daily Lounge podcasts. It's also episode number two hundred, So 12 00:00:54,280 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: thank you to everybody who's been listening since day one. 13 00:00:57,680 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: It's been a good few years and we've got a 14 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: lot more our exciting podcast coming up. So how are 15 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 1: you feeling over there? I'm feeling I am honestly feeling 16 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 1: very proud of two hundreds that that should not be minimized. 17 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 1: Uh sometimes you know, I know, as much as we 18 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 1: hate to do it, well, you know, pat ourselves in 19 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:18,880 Speaker 1: the back. Yes, we're just so incredibly modest. We don't 20 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 1: like reading the reviews to talk about how much people 21 00:01:21,080 --> 00:01:24,000 Speaker 1: love the podcast anything like that. You know, we hate 22 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: that stuff. Um but but um, you know, as I 23 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: mentioned before, I went to that podcast from conference and 24 00:01:31,400 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 1: they talked like when people would be like, oh, yeah, 25 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:36,960 Speaker 1: we put our fiftieth episode, they were like wow, and 26 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: and now we've hit two hundred, and that is that's 27 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 1: an accomplishment. Much credit to Michelle andres our fearless leader. 28 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 1: Are you trying to get a raised out of this? 29 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 1: Is that? What? This is a value you gotta you know, 30 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: talking about all the great things uh that happens. I 31 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: won't be sad about it. Um. But and and much 32 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 1: credit to Garrett who has edited the podcast throughout how 33 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: will you your do appreciate? Um? And much and much 34 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: credit to our listeners for keeping us afloat and um, 35 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 1: you're a very loyal bunch and we do appreciate that. 36 00:02:08,680 --> 00:02:10,959 Speaker 1: And we got T shirts to give out. It's gonna 37 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: be a once we get back in the office and 38 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:15,799 Speaker 1: we spray those deadboys down with some light though, it's 39 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 1: gonna be a T shirt bonanza. Well that is if 40 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 1: you are waiting for a T shirt right now. I'm 41 00:02:21,120 --> 00:02:23,120 Speaker 1: sure you can understand that things are a bit unique. 42 00:02:23,160 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: But the T shirts are in a box sitting next 43 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: to Ryan's desk, so that it's sitting next to the 44 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:32,640 Speaker 1: truth chair between our two desks. Uh, so that's not 45 00:02:32,680 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 1: an option right now. Um, that's true. Yeah, um yeah, 46 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 1: So we will get those eventually. Eventually, eventually, you know, 47 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: in probably two years, we'll be back in the office, 48 00:02:45,800 --> 00:02:50,120 Speaker 1: right and we'll get those T shirts out. It's crazy time. Yeah, 49 00:02:50,160 --> 00:02:52,959 Speaker 1: and not to um, not to be you know, be 50 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: the dead horse here, be too sappy. But in terms 51 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,000 Speaker 1: of the listeners, one thing that's been awesome about the 52 00:02:57,000 --> 00:02:59,359 Speaker 1: podcast over the past several years that we've done it, 53 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 1: through these two hundred episodes is that I definitely feel 54 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 1: like there's a community with our podcast listeners that's different 55 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: than any other platform that we have. And it's just 56 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:11,800 Speaker 1: awesome to see the emails, the tweets that we get, um, 57 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:14,119 Speaker 1: people on the street who stop us and and say 58 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:17,239 Speaker 1: hello and listen to the lounge. So uh, sincerely, thank 59 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:19,000 Speaker 1: you to everybody that has listened for these past two 60 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 1: hundred episodes, and uh look forward to listening for two 61 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:23,600 Speaker 1: hundred more. So thank you. Can I can I can 62 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:24,959 Speaker 1: I let the cat out of the bag and say 63 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:28,799 Speaker 1: that we want to do some lived with fans in 64 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 1: attendant down the line. Yeah, you can let the cat 65 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:38,920 Speaker 1: out of the bag. But uh, when when big events return, 66 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: as anybody's guess, Yeah, once we're allowed to be around 67 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 1: more than ten people and within six feet of each other, 68 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: we'll be doing that. Um Uh nice timing to announce 69 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 1: that we're gonna be doing live podcasts at a time 70 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:53,760 Speaker 1: when you're not allowed to be around more than ten 71 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: people for the next two months. So uh, perfect timing 72 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: on your part. Well, that just means we don't. Yeah, 73 00:04:01,840 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: that's like, that's a perfect kind of announcement for you. 74 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:06,600 Speaker 1: All Right, let's talk a little bit of football instead 75 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 1: of just podcast stuff. Uh so a few housekeeping things. First, 76 00:04:11,040 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 1: it's four o'clock and we've been talking all week about 77 00:04:13,480 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 1: once once four o'clock hits, well, things will become official 78 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 1: and we'll have plenty to say about all that that 79 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: was partial, that's partially true. Uh, we can talk about 80 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:28,560 Speaker 1: the Hayden Hurst trade. That is official. However, NFL teams 81 00:04:28,600 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 1: are not announcing any moves officially until players have actually 82 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: taken their physical and signed their contract. I'm gonna read 83 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 1: and that this is a memo from the NFL that 84 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 1: was sent to teams, and here's a statement from Eric 85 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 1: to Costa on this. In compliance with the recent memos 86 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: sent by the NFL Management Council, we withhold official announcements 87 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 1: of any personnel moves until prospective players have safely executed 88 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:55,680 Speaker 1: a physical examination and signed a contract. Despite these circumstances, 89 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: we are excited about the steps we've taken and will 90 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 1: continue to take to improve our team during the free 91 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 1: agency period. We look forward to announcing our moves at 92 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 1: the appropriate time. So like everybody, everyone of them, they can't. 93 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 1: We can't. They can't get those physicals. So that's the 94 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:16,800 Speaker 1: problem is because of COVID, UH players aren't able to 95 00:05:16,800 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: come into the facility to get those physicals to then 96 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: make the contract official. So that's why we're all in 97 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 1: a holding pattern and we can't announce them displayed. Everything 98 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 1: that you're seeing out there, we can't make it official. 99 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 1: We can't really comment on it. That's where we're at. Yep, 100 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 1: UH so well with whole comment on on some of 101 00:05:36,279 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 1: those things, but we will talk about Hayden Hurst UH 102 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 1: and the trade. They send Hayden Hurst to the Atlanta 103 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:45,240 Speaker 1: Falcons for a second and fifth round pick, both in 104 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:49,559 Speaker 1: this year's draft. Uh And then the Falcons also sent 105 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 1: a sorry, we sent Hayden and a fourth in exchange 106 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: for a second and a fifth all in this year's draft. Uh. 107 00:05:56,680 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: So let's let's start there. Really, in terms of what 108 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:03,280 Speaker 1: the reaction is to that move, I was I can't 109 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 1: say that I was shocked, because there's been reports of 110 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 1: Hayden getting traded since the middle of last season, so 111 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:11,640 Speaker 1: it's been out there. Um, but when you see the deal, 112 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 1: the Ravens got a lot in return. So I think 113 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 1: that you as a Ravens fan, you gotta feel pretty 114 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:19,680 Speaker 1: good about the you know, the return that you get 115 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 1: with a pair of picks, including a second rounder, and 116 00:06:22,360 --> 00:06:26,240 Speaker 1: a draft that is deep at in that spot. You know, 117 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: the Ravens talking about adding a receiver, maybe that second 118 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:30,159 Speaker 1: round pick that they just traded that they got in 119 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 1: trading Hayden Harris becomes that receiver that the Ravens want 120 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: to add. Well, Ravens got more for Hayden Hurst and 121 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 1: Texas got vin DeAndre Hoppin by a wide margin. Yeah, 122 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I think it's really to me, the 123 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: first thing comes to my mind is it's a win 124 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 1: win for both sides. The Ravens were absolutely loaded at 125 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:51,400 Speaker 1: tight end, and of course that's never a bad thing. 126 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:53,120 Speaker 1: It's not like you want to you want to get 127 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 1: rid of good players. But they had a surplus of 128 00:06:56,640 --> 00:07:00,040 Speaker 1: riches there. Um, And they're gonna be just fine with 129 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 1: Mark Andrews and Nick Boyle nick Wole who catch the 130 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:04,720 Speaker 1: ball too, So don't sleep on Nick Boyle as a 131 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 1: pass catcher. Um. And and maybe they'll add another tight 132 00:07:07,880 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 1: end in the draft or whatnot. You know, I doubt 133 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 1: that's free agency, but I think they could still add 134 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: one because you know, that's that's certainly a priority or 135 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: the tight end that's a heavy part of the offense. Um. 136 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:23,120 Speaker 1: But it's also a big win for Hayden because, let's 137 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 1: face it, I mean, he was behind Mark Andrews. Nick 138 00:07:26,360 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 1: Boyle was a huge part of this offense. He did 139 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 1: not have the full opportunity to break out in Baltimore. 140 00:07:33,080 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 1: And I think that it's a good thing that he'll 141 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 1: get that opportunity. I honestly think he'll make the most 142 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: of it. I think he's gonna put up some good 143 00:07:38,800 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: uberts in Atlanta. Um. So it's it's a chance for 144 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 1: him now with Austin Hooper out out of Atlanta to 145 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 1: be the number one guy down there, um, and I 146 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 1: think with Matt Ryan he'll do quite well. So and 147 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:52,960 Speaker 1: the Ravens. You know, Haydon Hurst is a late first 148 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: round pick. Now to get a mid second round picking 149 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: return after two seasons under contract on his rookie deal, 150 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: that's a good return, um for a guy who had 151 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: thirty catches for three forty nine yards and two touchdowns 152 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: last year. You know, to get a second round pick 153 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: for that, saying round picks are hard to get, like 154 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 1: teams of value those heavily. So I think that was 155 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:14,440 Speaker 1: a good deal by the Costa and I'm happy for 156 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:16,920 Speaker 1: Hayden that he's going to finally get his opportunity. You 157 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 1: could you could see that he was kind of frustrated. 158 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 1: I think, like, you know, he he he was friends. 159 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:24,800 Speaker 1: He was really close friends with Mark Andrews and Nikoile 160 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 1: still is a close friend of theirs. Um. But you 161 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 1: know there are times past this past season, even in 162 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,319 Speaker 1: the Tennessee game, where he made tough catches and then 163 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: his you know, waving his arms at the sideline like 164 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 1: throw me the ball more. See what I just did? 165 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: You know, like, come on, Seed me, you know, uh 166 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 1: and and um I could sense that I could send 167 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:48,760 Speaker 1: some simmering frustration from him, because here's the guy who 168 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: a first round pick. You know, he suffers the foot injury, 169 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:54,959 Speaker 1: and that really put him behind Mark Andrews because to 170 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:58,120 Speaker 1: Mark credit, he jumped, he capitalized on the opportunity when 171 00:08:58,120 --> 00:09:03,080 Speaker 1: Hayden went down last year I'm sorry, not two, and 172 00:09:03,400 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 1: Mark capitalized and then there was no turning back because 173 00:09:05,640 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 1: Mark just kept on performing like a number one tight end. 174 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:11,480 Speaker 1: So really it's no fault the Haygency fell behind the 175 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: eight ball and down the pecking pecking orders, so I 176 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 1: think that was tough for him to swallow. Um and 177 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 1: and and this is a good opportunity for him. Yeah, 178 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 1: a couple of points on what you just said. First 179 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 1: of all, on second round picks being tough to get. 180 00:09:24,320 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 1: Just to drive home that point, I mean, think about 181 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:28,319 Speaker 1: the fact that when the Ravens traded up to get 182 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 1: Lamar at the end of the first round, they sacrificed 183 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 1: a second round pick, you know, and so just to 184 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: kind of illustrate how valued second round picks are, that 185 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 1: was what they gave up at that point, you know, 186 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:42,720 Speaker 1: two years ago. Um and on Hayden. One thing I 187 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 1: think is important to note is I do not look 188 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 1: at him as a bust. Like I don't look at 189 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: him as a first round bust. Um. I think it's 190 00:09:51,040 --> 00:09:54,800 Speaker 1: exactly the way that exactly what you said, Mark andrews 191 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:57,760 Speaker 1: ends up winning that job and has great chemistry with 192 00:09:57,840 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson, and he's been great for the past two 193 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 1: years pro bowler, uh and looks like one of the 194 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: best tight ends of the game. So then you have 195 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 1: the blocker and boil it. Just there's only so many 196 00:10:07,880 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 1: reps to go around at that position. Even though the 197 00:10:09,640 --> 00:10:11,240 Speaker 1: Ravens love putting all of them on the field at 198 00:10:11,240 --> 00:10:12,839 Speaker 1: the same time and they and they love the big 199 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 1: jumbo sets, There's only so many ways to get the 200 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:19,440 Speaker 1: tight end of football, and Hayden just fell victim to that. 201 00:10:19,559 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 1: So like, I do not think of him as somebody 202 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 1: who can't play. I think he can play. And I actually, 203 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:28,200 Speaker 1: like have have said on the podcast before, but obviously 204 00:10:28,200 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 1: before the trade happened, like hey, I'd like to maybe 205 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 1: see him get more involved, um and so and and 206 00:10:33,679 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 1: now he's going to get that opportunity in Atlanta, and 207 00:10:36,000 --> 00:10:38,440 Speaker 1: I think that he certainly could go and have a 208 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:42,199 Speaker 1: really good season down down there, right, The issue was 209 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:45,200 Speaker 1: how do you get him more in I mean, you know, 210 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 1: I'd like to get Mark Andrews the Baltimore he deserves it, 211 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 1: you know. And I'd like to get let's say, the 212 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:53,680 Speaker 1: Ravens draft the wide receiver in the first two rounds. 213 00:10:53,880 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 1: I'd like to get that guy at the ball. I'd 214 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: like to get Hollywood in the ball more, you know, 215 00:10:57,400 --> 00:11:00,200 Speaker 1: when he's fully healthy next year. So even though I 216 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 1: think that he was breaking out, it was still gonna 217 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 1: be hard, you know. I think all of us wanted 218 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: to get Hayden the ball, but it was gonna be 219 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:09,400 Speaker 1: hard because now all of a sudden, we have a 220 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 1: lot of weapons on offense, and uh so, so that's 221 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:14,959 Speaker 1: a good thing. And I think Eric the Cops is 222 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:17,800 Speaker 1: quote really kind of sums it up well too. It says, quote, 223 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: Hayden is a talented emerging player in this league and 224 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:23,280 Speaker 1: a high character individual for whom we have a lot 225 00:11:23,400 --> 00:11:25,959 Speaker 1: of respect. We're grateful for the constributions he made to 226 00:11:26,000 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 1: our team and for the role he played in our 227 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 1: success the past two seasons. We feel this is a 228 00:11:30,120 --> 00:11:33,280 Speaker 1: mutually beneficial deal and we wish Hayden the very best 229 00:11:33,320 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 1: in Atlanta. Yeah, yeah, that mutually. The beneficial part definitely 230 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 1: kind of stands out. You can sometimes trades are best 231 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 1: for both sides, and this is a this is a 232 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:46,120 Speaker 1: fresh start for Hayden. And in terms of like the 233 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: frustration piece, you could see that the point that you 234 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 1: made about kind of pointing over the sidelines and saying, 235 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:53,800 Speaker 1: feed me the ball, give me the rock. Uh. Fans 236 00:11:53,800 --> 00:11:55,719 Speaker 1: obviously saw that as well. And you know, I think 237 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 1: about like the Buffalo game where he had that that 238 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:01,199 Speaker 1: big play and it's just seemed like that was a 239 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:03,440 Speaker 1: weight off his shoulder. Somebody steps to the podium after 240 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:06,199 Speaker 1: the game, he talks about how it's been really frustrating 241 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: and hard and he's had to um kind of endure 242 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:12,760 Speaker 1: not feeling like he's kind of lived up the first 243 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 1: round billing and wants more opportunities like he was dealing 244 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 1: with all of that. So, um, the frustration was definitely there. 245 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:23,319 Speaker 1: I don't think the confidence ever waivered, Like he definitely 246 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 1: is confident in his abilities and feels like if he 247 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 1: gets more opportunities, he's going to perform. And I don't 248 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:30,720 Speaker 1: see any reason why that wouldn't be the case. It's 249 00:12:30,720 --> 00:12:32,520 Speaker 1: all he's a guy that was plagued by drops or 250 00:12:32,520 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 1: anything like that. I mean, he just it was just 251 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 1: an opportunity situation on everything. Yeah, he called everything. I 252 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 1: was very impressed. Can we just stop and I want 253 00:12:41,280 --> 00:12:43,199 Speaker 1: to hear from I want to hear the words out 254 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 1: of your mouth. Garrett. Who was loyal? Who amongst the 255 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 1: two of us, was loyal to Hayden the entire time? Desplate, 256 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: you know, some struggles in his rookie season, not really 257 00:12:54,440 --> 00:12:56,840 Speaker 1: putting a big numbers. He said, Hayden Hurst is gonna 258 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 1: be a good player. I believe in Hayden Hurt. He 259 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 1: said that, I think of the us said that. The 260 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:04,079 Speaker 1: one thing that I that I did say is that 261 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 1: he was never going to be an eight hundred plush 262 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: yard receiver for the Ravens. So I think I'm correct? 263 00:13:08,600 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 1: Am I not? Well? Am I not? Are you just 264 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 1: adding the for the Ravens now or did you get 265 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 1: yeah for the Ravens? So, once again, I continue to 266 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 1: be correct. And you cant you said he was gonna 267 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:22,559 Speaker 1: be a thousand yard receiver in his year third year 268 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 1: for the Ravens. So can you continue to miss? Continue 269 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:29,959 Speaker 1: to miss? I think I've always thought he's a good player. 270 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 1: I've always thought he's a good player. I think that 271 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 1: the and the trade validates that, like the Ravens getting 272 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: what they got for him validates that the league and 273 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 1: the Falcons view him as a quality player. I'm gonna 274 00:13:43,800 --> 00:13:46,320 Speaker 1: say this right now, and I hope none of my 275 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:50,679 Speaker 1: fellow fantasy football owners are out there listening, But because 276 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 1: Hayden Hurston is gonna be a nice late round pick 277 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:56,439 Speaker 1: next year, so you can give you a nice late 278 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 1: round thing. So you know, the one the one thing 279 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 1: about the trade that does make me nervous, and I 280 00:14:01,040 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 1: do think the Ravens will will probably add another tight 281 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:06,679 Speaker 1: end maybe in the draft. Um, you know, that went 282 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:09,560 Speaker 1: from one of the best positions groups on the on 283 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:13,679 Speaker 1: the team to suddenly it's little thin because if they 284 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: use the Titan so much that if Boyle or Andrews 285 00:14:17,559 --> 00:14:18,959 Speaker 1: were to get hurt, then all of a sudden, you're 286 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:20,600 Speaker 1: you're kind of scrambling a little bit. That's the one 287 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:22,360 Speaker 1: thing that makes me a little nervous about it. But 288 00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: if you get that kind of return, um, it's hard 289 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 1: to not take that trade. Yeah, And I do think 290 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 1: you bring up a good point in that one thing 291 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:33,840 Speaker 1: that I think that was a little bit overlooked from 292 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:36,960 Speaker 1: the playoff loss. Was the injury to Nick Boyle that 293 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 1: what was it the first drive in the second half 294 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 1: or something like that. I was midway through the game 295 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 1: and Nick Boyle goes down. That hurts the Ravens offense 296 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 1: in that playoff, right. Um, So you know, and and 297 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 1: Mark Andrews takes some hits. I mean, he's a tough 298 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 1: guy and he played through him. I think I don't 299 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 1: think you missed the game last year. Maybe he said, 300 00:14:54,640 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 1: I think you set out the regular season finale. Uh, 301 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 1: they played in fifteen and uh, you know, he got 302 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 1: had some bumps and bruises. But I don't expect that 303 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 1: to change, especially if he has more on his plate. Um. 304 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 1: But you know, I I do think they'll ad somebody 305 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 1: at some point. It's not gonna be a high picked 306 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 1: the tight ends in this year's draft or not regarded 307 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:17,360 Speaker 1: it particularly great. Um, but I think that you can 308 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 1: get another receiving tight end or all around tight end. Um. 309 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:26,400 Speaker 1: Maybe give my guy Scar he's got he's got the 310 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 1: best name on the team. Just speed. Well, Uh, well 311 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 1: we'll make really receiving sight end now. Yeah. But and honestly, 312 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:35,520 Speaker 1: with the way the Ravens look at it, they may 313 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:37,680 Speaker 1: have said, all right, Hayden would have been our third 314 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 1: tight end again this year. So can you get you know, 315 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: three yards and two touchdowns out of scarf or out 316 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 1: of a rookie? Like that's probably the way that they're 317 00:15:46,640 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 1: looking at it. Is. Mark is clearly the one. So 318 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 1: as good as Hayden could be, he's not. He's not 319 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 1: beat at the Mark right now. So Mark, so definitely 320 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 1: how they're looking at it. So like if you if 321 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: you can plug in a guy and he can be 322 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 1: a three yard receiver as the third tight end is 323 00:16:00,800 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 1: the second receiving option at tight end um and you 324 00:16:04,080 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 1: can get a couple of good picks out of it, 325 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 1: then that's a that's a really good thing for the team, right, 326 00:16:09,080 --> 00:16:10,920 Speaker 1: that shouldn't be hard to find. Let's say they slipped 327 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 1: that second round pick into my guy. I'm gonna call 328 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 1: him on the pod just so you can't take them. 329 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 1: Colorado wide receiver Leiscus shouldn't not How many yards do 330 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:20,400 Speaker 1: you think how many yards do you think Lais could 331 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:22,840 Speaker 1: could put up as as a number two complimentary wide 332 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 1: receiver to Mark to Hollywood Brown, you know, yeah, I 333 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 1: think it's I think it's more than three fifty. So 334 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 1: so it's all about you have to balance your team, right, 335 00:16:32,640 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 1: I mean the Ravens had uh surplus is talent at 336 00:16:36,000 --> 00:16:39,320 Speaker 1: tight end. They had a surplus as talent and defensive tackle, 337 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 1: right with Michael Peers and Brandon Williams. You had a 338 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: surplus of talent at cornerback. Now you know, it looks 339 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 1: like they're probably not gonna bring back Brandon car who knows, 340 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 1: you know, maybe Jimmy. But it's gonna be tough considering 341 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 1: the Ravens uh, you know, don't have a lot of 342 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 1: salary captis. Um, so you just can't have we I 343 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 1: mean that's that's robes management one O one, right, I 344 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:03,160 Speaker 1: mean you don't want to have too many good players 345 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 1: in one position. And then the weeks a row. I 346 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 1: think the raven are you know, according to some of 347 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: the buzze that's out there, we can't confirm any of 348 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 1: the moods, but they're becoming a deeper, more balanced team overall. 349 00:17:16,080 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 1: That's going to be really hard to contend with. Yeah, yeah, 350 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:24,400 Speaker 1: I like, um yeah, we'll have plenty to say when 351 00:17:24,400 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 1: these moves con official. Um So, how about another topic 352 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 1: about a former Raven who he recently saw during the 353 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 1: Marcia Yonda press conference, and that is Joe Flacco. There's 354 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 1: reports that he would be getting released in Denver, um, 355 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:46,760 Speaker 1: which doesn't come as a surprise. He didn't play particularly 356 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 1: well last year. They weren't really good with him at quarterback, 357 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:52,199 Speaker 1: and then he gets hurt and Drew Lock is their 358 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 1: their hope for the long term answer, So Joe would 359 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 1: be a backup there. He might be a backup anywhere 360 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:58,760 Speaker 1: he goes. Considering all the moves that are taking place, 361 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 1: what do you see as a future for him? I 362 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:06,800 Speaker 1: mean I thought that, uh, if it didn't work out 363 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:09,119 Speaker 1: in Denver, then Joe would just call it a career. 364 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 1: To be honest, I just did not think that Joe 365 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: would be happy being a backup. Like he's reached the mountaintop. 366 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:19,920 Speaker 1: He's gonna super Bowl MVP. Uh, He's made a lot 367 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 1: of money. He has a big family that he wants 368 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 1: to spend time with. You've had a good run. I 369 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:26,440 Speaker 1: mean he's played how many seasons now came into the 370 00:18:27,920 --> 00:18:30,160 Speaker 1: twelve twelve years, So I mean that's a good run. 371 00:18:30,240 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 1: That's a that's a if Joe Flacco were to retire today, 372 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 1: he would have had a very successful NFL career, that's 373 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:40,399 Speaker 1: for sure. Um. And so like that, my gut just 374 00:18:40,440 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 1: told me that Joe wouldn't be a guy who would 375 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 1: hang on and become a match shob of the NFL. Right. Uh. 376 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 1: And but you know, to my surprise, when the season 377 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 1: ended and Denver reporters asked him that question if he 378 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:57,479 Speaker 1: would be open to being a backup, he said yes. 379 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:02,399 Speaker 1: And so you know, the guy like playing football. Um, 380 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:05,000 Speaker 1: and he probably has a chip on his shoulder, wants 381 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 1: to prove that he can be an elite starter. Um 382 00:19:08,119 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 1: And can I can I go back and erase the 383 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 1: word elite on that just because I don't want to 384 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 1: go down that road We've seen that goes. Sorry that 385 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 1: just that just popped out of my mouth. That I 386 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 1: didn't even think about it. Um. Anyway, you know, he 387 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:24,399 Speaker 1: wants to prove himself, I think, and and he I 388 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:26,640 Speaker 1: think he just like playing foot football. He's excitive guy 389 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:29,600 Speaker 1: and all that. You know. So you know, I guess 390 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:33,800 Speaker 1: I'm wrong. I guess he's going to continue to play. Supposedly, now, 391 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 1: maybe he was open to being a backup in Denver 392 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,960 Speaker 1: and not being a backup eltwhere you know, if let's say, 393 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:40,760 Speaker 1: if somebody else would signed him and he doesn't win 394 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,639 Speaker 1: the starting job out of camp, maybe he plays plays 395 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:45,679 Speaker 1: out that year and then he called inquis. I don't know, 396 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 1: but um it is it is crazy how much things 397 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:55,160 Speaker 1: can change in such such a short amount of time. Yeah, 398 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:57,199 Speaker 1: how about this one? How about this this thought? And 399 00:19:57,200 --> 00:20:00,320 Speaker 1: I've actually thought this as a possibility when he was 400 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:03,000 Speaker 1: going through the process last year. What if he hands up? 401 00:20:03,359 --> 00:20:05,640 Speaker 1: What if you know, I don't think that's gonna happen. Uh, 402 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 1: what if what if he hands up in New England? Yeah? 403 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 1: That is very interesting. Now I don't think that if 404 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:14,199 Speaker 1: you were to go to New England it would be 405 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 1: as you're coming in as the clear starter, no question 406 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 1: about it. Um. I think that you know, they could 407 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 1: bring in Andy Dalton, as we talked about yesterday in 408 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:27,159 Speaker 1: the podcast. Uh, they could have some of Yeah, I 409 00:20:27,160 --> 00:20:30,159 Speaker 1: can see that. But like, could Joe be a backup 410 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:32,640 Speaker 1: in New England? Could it be a situation where Joe 411 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 1: and Andy come in and are kind of competing for 412 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 1: a job. Was there too much veteran you know, a 413 00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:42,720 Speaker 1: c North for more quarterback? Joe? I don't know, but like, yeah, 414 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:44,920 Speaker 1: I mean most likely they would pick between Joe wore 415 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:47,760 Speaker 1: Andy and they had and they drafted a quarterback last year. 416 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 1: They don't remember something like that. Um, so they would 417 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 1: compete those two guys, I think compete from the starting job. 418 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:56,399 Speaker 1: But my gut still tells me I think Andy Dalton 419 00:20:56,440 --> 00:20:58,639 Speaker 1: made a lot of sense for them. But Joe is 420 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 1: very interesting. I mean, yeah, he's had some good games 421 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 1: up there in Foxboro, right, you see the ball out 422 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 1: up there. Um, you put Joe in the right system, 423 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 1: you know. I just think Andy suits them better, getting 424 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 1: the ball out of the hands quickly, you know, stuff 425 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:18,600 Speaker 1: like that. I mean, and he's pretty good at doing that. 426 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 1: Joe is not, as I think, well made for a 427 00:21:22,440 --> 00:21:25,120 Speaker 1: West Coast system, you know. I mean he's just got 428 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:27,720 Speaker 1: the big arm once to throw bombs and and and 429 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 1: take you know, five seven step drops and and hit 430 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 1: that ten yard out you know. So Um to me, 431 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:37,120 Speaker 1: Andy Dalton makes more sense for them. But it would 432 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:40,199 Speaker 1: be fascinating if Joe went to New England. Yeah, that 433 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,840 Speaker 1: would be really interesting. We didn't really talk about this 434 00:21:42,880 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 1: when we did the Marshall podcast, but I think it's 435 00:21:45,040 --> 00:21:47,959 Speaker 1: worth saying, Like, it was really cool that he came 436 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 1: back for that. I think it was probably really strange 437 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 1: to walk back into the building and uh see a 438 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:56,920 Speaker 1: lot of old faces and and you know, just given 439 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 1: how it ended and he's still playing and it's a 440 00:21:58,880 --> 00:22:01,879 Speaker 1: little awkward and um, but I thought it was really 441 00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 1: a classy move on his part to come back and 442 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 1: be part of that. And Marshall didn't even know that 443 00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,080 Speaker 1: was happening. That was a surprise to Marshall and he 444 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 1: was definitely touched by it. When I talked to him 445 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:12,359 Speaker 1: after his pressor, he was like, I had no idea 446 00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 1: that Joe was going to be here, and that meant 447 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 1: a lot to him. So I think that, as we've 448 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 1: said a million times, Joe is an awesome dude, and 449 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 1: that was just another example of, um, you know, how 450 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,000 Speaker 1: he is so well respected and how he does the 451 00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:28,320 Speaker 1: right thing for his teammates. Yeah. One one thing Joe 452 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:35,880 Speaker 1: is always has been classy. Sure yeah, um, so, um, 453 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:37,639 Speaker 1: what else we want to talk about during free agency? 454 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:39,399 Speaker 1: For the things that we can't talk about, Well, how 455 00:22:39,440 --> 00:22:42,159 Speaker 1: about Tom Brady? We talked about him yesterday. Oh we 456 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 1: did talk about Well, you must have seen that he 457 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 1: was going to the Bucks the whole time right, Yeah, 458 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 1: there was no question about that. Yeah, that's a weird one. 459 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:54,280 Speaker 1: I don't like. To me. That feels like Joe Montana 460 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:59,640 Speaker 1: in Kansas City. That feels like Michael Jordan on the Wizards. Um, 461 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:03,119 Speaker 1: it's doesn't seem to be one that like, oh, the 462 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 1: Bucks are gonna be great next year and Brady is 463 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:09,639 Speaker 1: gonna prove that, Uh it was him all along that 464 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:11,480 Speaker 1: he was he was the key to the success in 465 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:15,680 Speaker 1: New England beyond anything else. Like, yeah, yeah, it doesn't 466 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 1: feel that I think he was salty at the lack 467 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:20,600 Speaker 1: of weapons that he had last year. She said, you 468 00:23:20,600 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 1: know what, I'm gonna go down there with Chris Godwin 469 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:25,040 Speaker 1: and Mike Evans and you know, I'm gonna show the 470 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 1: world that you put some some good wide receivers around me. 471 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:30,640 Speaker 1: I can steal ball. It's just weird thinking about Tom 472 00:23:30,680 --> 00:23:34,919 Speaker 1: Brady playing the Bucks game with the pirate ship in 473 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,159 Speaker 1: ninety degree weather in September, Like I'm used to seeing 474 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:41,600 Speaker 1: him in the in the thermal suit and the snow 475 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:43,920 Speaker 1: and the nasty New England weather. Like the idea of 476 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 1: him playing in Florida is just weird to me. That 477 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:49,080 Speaker 1: does not feel right, Like even the Jersey swap graphics 478 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 1: that we've seen of him in the Bucks uniform. It 479 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:54,240 Speaker 1: just doesn't feel like a real thing. And I don't, 480 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:55,959 Speaker 1: I don't, I don't. I mean, I'm glad he's out 481 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 1: of the a f C, no question about that. But 482 00:23:57,640 --> 00:23:59,479 Speaker 1: I'm not sure I like the idea of him from 483 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,240 Speaker 1: a football fans standpoint, going to plan for the box. 484 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 1: It's just weird. It's too weird for me. Maybe it's 485 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 1: like it's like, you know, you always have like New 486 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,439 Speaker 1: Yorkers and people from the Northeast to get old and 487 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:12,159 Speaker 1: they get tired of the cold weather and they're like, 488 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 1: I'm going, he's just a snowbird. He's a snowbird. Okay, 489 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 1: that makes sense. That was starting to come together. That 490 00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:24,880 Speaker 1: don't make sense now. So I mean, yeah, I'm glad 491 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 1: he's out of it. The NFC, good ridding, um, you know, 492 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 1: And you know what, the Bucks might be pretty good 493 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 1: next year. They have a good defense. You put Tom 494 00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:37,159 Speaker 1: Brady in there with those wide receivers. You don't have 495 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 1: a quarterback who's turning the ball over thirty whatever times 496 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,679 Speaker 1: it was that James through pick flash year. They can 497 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 1: now they have the Saints in that division, it's it's 498 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 1: gonna be an interesting division. Here's one, here's the Here's 499 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:50,399 Speaker 1: one other thing I do want to talk about with 500 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 1: the Ravens is, um, you know, we can't reference what 501 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 1: the moves that have already been made, but based on 502 00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:01,280 Speaker 1: the buzz that's out there in the rumor mill, like, 503 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:04,160 Speaker 1: what left for the Ravens to do, do you think 504 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,400 Speaker 1: on the on the priority list, it's shut it down 505 00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 1: at this point or what? Well, you know what's um? 506 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 1: I mean, I still think inside linebacker is a position 507 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:15,960 Speaker 1: that could be addressed. It's interesting that there's talk of 508 00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:19,119 Speaker 1: Josh Binds getting picked up um to Green Bay. It 509 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 1: hasn't happened yet, but there's the Packers are reportedly interested 510 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 1: in Binds, which that yeah, which just uh speaks to 511 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 1: the kind of season that he had. Um, you know, 512 00:25:31,040 --> 00:25:32,880 Speaker 1: given that he was out of football, then they Ravens 513 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:34,720 Speaker 1: signing he plays well, and now in the first couple 514 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,440 Speaker 1: of days there's there's buzz about him going getting picked 515 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:41,040 Speaker 1: up early. So UM, I still think inside linebacker is 516 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:43,919 Speaker 1: is the spot that could be addressed. As we've talked 517 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 1: this week, I think that receiver is one that will 518 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,560 Speaker 1: be addressed during the draft. That seems to be the 519 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:51,960 Speaker 1: way that the Ravens want to go, and I think 520 00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 1: that's the best bet considering the depth of the class 521 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,280 Speaker 1: um and also where the Ravens have picks, you know, 522 00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,480 Speaker 1: a bunch of picks in those first four rounds, so 523 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:01,800 Speaker 1: I think they'll be able to get a quality receiver 524 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:05,119 Speaker 1: or two uh in the draft. As we're talking about receiver, 525 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,239 Speaker 1: we actually have an email about that. This is from 526 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,520 Speaker 1: Chris Joy. It is always you guys can email us 527 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,679 Speaker 1: at the Lounge at ravenst NFL dot net. He writes. 528 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:17,200 Speaker 1: He is originally a Maryland native, currently lives in Melbourne, Australia. 529 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,360 Speaker 1: He bleeds purple and black. First, I wanted to say 530 00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,160 Speaker 1: I look forward to listening to the Lounge every time 531 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,439 Speaker 1: it comes on. So thank you so much. Like we 532 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 1: were talking about earlier, we don't like to petter petter 533 00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:29,199 Speaker 1: back too much, but here we are. Uh. Secondly, my question, uh, 534 00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 1: what do you think about picking up Josh Gordon in 535 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 1: the free agent market? I know cap space is not there, 536 00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:40,440 Speaker 1: so I would say that problem. Yeah. And and he's 537 00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:46,119 Speaker 1: he mentions the marijuana uh testing um, but you know 538 00:26:46,200 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 1: he thinks he could be a great asset in the 539 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:51,760 Speaker 1: receiver market, so it's not gonna happen. I don't see. 540 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 1: I would be shocked if the Ravens were to pick 541 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:57,679 Speaker 1: up Josh Gordon. He's had so many opportunities. Um, he 542 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 1: clearly has is dealing with you lots of issues and 543 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:05,120 Speaker 1: has been for his entire adult life, maybe his entire life. Um, 544 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 1: And I don't think that you could have faith that 545 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:12,439 Speaker 1: he's going to be on the field. No, yeah, I 546 00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:16,360 Speaker 1: think Josh Gordon is probably done. Yeah, I mean how 547 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 1: many how many strikes do you get? Right? I mean 548 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,920 Speaker 1: he's five strikes, you're out? I mean you know he's 549 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:26,199 Speaker 1: beyond three at this point. So um, yeah, I think 550 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,679 Speaker 1: Josh Gordon's career, you know, I unfortunately, you know, some 551 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 1: people just can't. I can't stay on the straight and narrow. 552 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:37,200 Speaker 1: So um, it's a shame talented player, you know. And uh, 553 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 1: but I think, like I've said before, the Ravens want 554 00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,360 Speaker 1: to get young at wide receiver. Have these guys grew 555 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,680 Speaker 1: up with each other, become best friends on an off 556 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:46,919 Speaker 1: the field where he saw that start last year with 557 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:50,360 Speaker 1: Hollywood and Lamar Myles waken as well, And I think 558 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:53,120 Speaker 1: they want to just continue adding to that yeah. I mean, 559 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 1: just to be specific, Goran has been suspended five times 560 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,560 Speaker 1: in eight years. He's currently and definitely suspended, so uh yeah, 561 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 1: I got them work strikes, right. Yeah. So I understand 562 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,879 Speaker 1: like we've offen answered like a million Josh Gordon questions 563 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,639 Speaker 1: over the past several years and uh mail bag or 564 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:10,880 Speaker 1: people who have written into the podcast, and I understand 565 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:14,640 Speaker 1: like the intrigue. The guy's got immense talent, but um, 566 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 1: he's got other issues off the field. So uh, I 567 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:20,480 Speaker 1: appreciate the question, Chris, um, but I don't think that 568 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,679 Speaker 1: is going to happen. So and then I still, you know, 569 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:28,200 Speaker 1: offensive line is is that interior offensive line spot? Um? 570 00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 1: I still think those veteran guard interior alignement you can 571 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 1: get oftentimes for a bit of a bargain. Um. And 572 00:28:36,280 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 1: you know we're not talking about uh you know it's 573 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:43,000 Speaker 1: it's it's not Zach Thomas or Zack Martin. Um, but 574 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 1: you can get some quality players at that spot. I 575 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:48,200 Speaker 1: think in that kind of second wave of free agency, 576 00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 1: and that could be a spot where I think that 577 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 1: the Ravens look m yeah, I agree. I mean to me, 578 00:28:59,000 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 1: it felt like all along it inside linebacker makes so 579 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 1: much sense in the first round for the Ravens in 580 00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 1: the draft, Kenneth Murray by every possible measure, including just 581 00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 1: his background, just like screams Ravens and and now you know, 582 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 1: so far haven't had any official or reported moves that 583 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 1: inside linebacker for the Ravens. It's just like setting up 584 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:25,040 Speaker 1: for that, you know. Um but the Ravens never liked 585 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 1: to pigeonhole themselves. Um, so I'll be interested to see 586 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 1: if they can find some kind of veterans, you know, 587 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 1: later in the process, or who gets released or something 588 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:38,640 Speaker 1: like that. That'll be interesting. And and yeah, I mean 589 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 1: the money, the money. There ain't a whole lot of 590 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 1: money of money left. So the Guards situation is gonna 591 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,640 Speaker 1: be intriguing because like I said before, I think they 592 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 1: add a veteran, but they gotta they gotta make some 593 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 1: rooms to even do that. So I mean, like like 594 00:29:56,920 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 1: you gotta Ben Powers. Yeah, yeah, I mean you know, 595 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:04,160 Speaker 1: but you've they've done that. Like over, I think of 596 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 1: a guy like Bobby Williams, you know, he was on 597 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl team. Is it just as a random 598 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 1: example of somebody like I'm thinking of a guy in 599 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 1: that category of player who's a veteran um, who can 600 00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 1: come in and play play the position. Well, you know, 601 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 1: get a B, a solid B player at that spot, 602 00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,240 Speaker 1: plug and play. You don't really got to worry about 603 00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 1: them though, that they're going to be there. Um, it's 604 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 1: an example of a guy you know who I think 605 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 1: that they could try to target on the market. Yeah. Yeah, 606 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 1: he'll figure something out there, I'm sure. Yeah, I'm not too. 607 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 1: I'm I'm not. I'm worried about the fact that Marcia 608 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 1: Janno retired and you gotta replace him. But um, I 609 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 1: think that the Ravens will have some options for how 610 00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:53,280 Speaker 1: to address that in free agency. So um yeah, anyway, Yeah, 611 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 1: I think that's it for today. Thank you everybody for listening. 612 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 1: As always, you can reach it at the lounge at 613 00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 1: Ravens NFL dot met. I've got a sleeping baby in 614 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 1: my arms that just strength a bottle. Gonna go sit 615 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 1: here and put her in the crib um, So so 616 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,120 Speaker 1: thank you for listening as always, you can reach us. 617 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 1: And times are changing, so uh, stay came because you 618 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:19,480 Speaker 1: never know when we're gonna be able to announce these deals. Um. 619 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 1: You know, they are looking for medical professionals, perhaps on 620 00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 1: site where the players are to conduct the the physicals 621 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 1: or getting the physicals from their former teams to try 622 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 1: to get these deals to become official. So a lot 623 00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 1: is changing the NFL, as is, all of us are 624 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 1: trying to figure out what to do with this whole 625 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 1: situation because the whole New world so um. But in 626 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,479 Speaker 1: terms of other saying yeah, thanks us, one type us 627 00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 1: one other thing in here, because we've gotten some emails 628 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 1: on this. We've we've gotten a couple of very helpful 629 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 1: emails about our audio issues uh here on the pod, 630 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 1: which uh, you know, we're trying to figure out because 631 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 1: we've never not been in the same room when these 632 00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 1: recording the pots. Um. And we will have improvements to 633 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 1: that very soon. I'm getting much better. Mike sent to 634 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:10,000 Speaker 1: my house. I'm gonna wipe it down with the white 635 00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:13,239 Speaker 1: do the whole shebang. I'm gonna have the gloves on, um. 636 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 1: But we have the whole protocol here at the main 637 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:20,120 Speaker 1: household or anything coming back it um. And once that 638 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 1: is safe and in my house, uh, and we figure 639 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:24,720 Speaker 1: out the back end stuff, that I will start to 640 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:27,000 Speaker 1: sound a lot better. And I'm I'm sure all of 641 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 1: you are going to be looking forward to that. The 642 00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,520 Speaker 1: quality will be better, but the content of what you're 643 00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 1: saying it's going to be terrible. The content will still 644 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:38,479 Speaker 1: be awful. I have nothing, nothing of value or enterthing 645 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 1: that you say. We'll just be able to hear it 646 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,480 Speaker 1: more clearly. Right, the usual crap that I say, Well, 647 00:32:43,520 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 1: you'll it'll come through crystal clear perfect. I'm trying to 648 00:32:46,400 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 1: hear that. UM. We appreciate you guys listening. UM, and 649 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 1: as moves become official, we will can we will have 650 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,560 Speaker 1: a full breakdown on our take and our thoughts. Uh 651 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 1: and what that means for the Ravens. UM. There's lots 652 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,400 Speaker 1: of stuff that's going on right now, and that's why 653 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 1: we're doing this daily podcast. So, UM, thank you so 654 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 1: much for listening. Like makes it earlier. Uh, the quality 655 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 1: will be improved. UH. So we're continuing to work on that, UM, 656 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 1: but stay stay tuned. We love the community that we 657 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,440 Speaker 1: we've built here with you guys, so sending your questions 658 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:21,320 Speaker 1: at the lounge at Raven's on NFL dot net. UM, 659 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 1: thank you so much. We'll talk to you tomorrow.