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Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus

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Speaker 1: in Burrio, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Daley, brought to

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Speaker 1: you by Bally Bet coming soon to Ohio on ESPN Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: He Here are your hosts Bow Bishop and Nathan Zigura. Ah,

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Speaker 1: let's you alive on a football Friday edition of the program,

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Speaker 1: merely Bow the Great Z. There's a certain excellence in

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Speaker 1: the room. Kids. Feast your eyes. Oh baby, what a job.

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Speaker 1: Some would call it the b m Ppe. Yes, the

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Speaker 1: Creme de lacro us, the Creme de la creme. I

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Speaker 1: just feel great in this thing. I feel like I could.

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Speaker 1: There's nothing that I'm incapable of accomplishing when I wear

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Speaker 1: the city. And by the way, yes I did. In

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Speaker 1: case you're wondering, peacock around a little bit. I was

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Speaker 1: curious what the reaction in the building was. I came

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Speaker 1: in really hot today and we've got construction, so I

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Speaker 1: wasn't able to get like my normal A lot of people.

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Speaker 1: I heard a lot of people, how do I get

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Speaker 1: one of those? Sorry you don't sweet. Allison was like,

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Speaker 1: I gotta half and I'm like, I don't know, I

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Speaker 1: don't know what to tell you. I don't want to

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Speaker 1: tell you even unbelievable. There's an illuminary the like one

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Speaker 1: of the no like as big as it would get

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Speaker 1: that would be here on a regular basis. Said that

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Speaker 1: we're we're just catching dubs in these things. And he

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Speaker 1: didn't come out and say it, but it felt like

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Speaker 1: he'd like one. I think it's something that a lot

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Speaker 1: of people are gonna want once once these are seen.

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Speaker 1: So this this we we went through this with with

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Speaker 1: the the exquisite bread Melon yesterday when he was here,

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Speaker 1: called me last night said I I had the best time.

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Speaker 1: I really enjoyed. Said well, you have an open come

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Speaker 1: on any time, Like he could hand out the b

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Speaker 1: MP pe making gums that could have stuck to my

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Speaker 1: hand and I was like, you have an open invitation

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Speaker 1: come whenever he goes. It was really cool. We were

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Speaker 1: just like talking like we're hanging out, like, yeah, that's

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Speaker 1: the show, that's all we do. That's what the show is.

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Speaker 1: That's right, And we loved hanging out Brad Melon. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so he was in yesterday. You know the backstory on

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Speaker 1: the on the hoodies and all of that. Um, you

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Speaker 1: and I I'm trying to remember when we dreamt up

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Speaker 1: the cream. I remember the conversation about it, and I

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Speaker 1: am and homage, uh cor response that took place, and

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Speaker 1: they ended up with the cream starters, which we have

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Speaker 1: um and we at some point decided we're gonna be

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Speaker 1: the Kings of Cream. And then but I and I

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Speaker 1: remember that common station is that how did that when

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Speaker 1: we get to where cream was the correct So there

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Speaker 1: was the black, then there was an orange, then there

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Speaker 1: was a gray, which we were never into, right and

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Speaker 1: I wasn't. I wasn't huge into the RM. I like

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Speaker 1: the black. We were not it. We wanted the black.

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Speaker 1: And then we said, well what about a white? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's right, And then the white showed itself up in Atlanta.

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Speaker 1: The white was distributed and at the same in the

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Speaker 1: most egregiously offensive way possible. And then we said cream,

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Speaker 1: baby cream. We wouldn't even say it out loud on

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Speaker 1: fear of it being And then just so that you

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Speaker 1: people understand, like we back channeled through various different alternative

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Speaker 1: like we would reference things like the Wu Tang clan's

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Speaker 1: theory about you know what rules things, and those those

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Speaker 1: the students of the show, those who get it, who

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Speaker 1: pay attention to the the scores, they knew what we were

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Speaker 1: talking about. But it turns out that we have a

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Speaker 1: hoodie that might be made with like golden fibers. I

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Speaker 1: don't even know, you've never seen anything like it given

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Speaker 1: unless it was like I mean with like Gucci like that,

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Speaker 1: like that type of Yes, it came with its own

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Speaker 1: like bag stitch, no stitch and something accounted for, something incredible,

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Speaker 1: people that these had to be sourced. This is why

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Speaker 1: Brad Mellen is who he is. That's BMPPE. Not only

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Speaker 1: your rolodex. That's right. And we were told that these

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Speaker 1: And it would lead one to believe that Janice probably

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Speaker 1: walks around in a hoodie made of this same material.

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Speaker 1: I bet on the rag, but not with this. Can't can't,

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Speaker 1: can't can come in here and ask me today. And

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that the Cream Cities, which you have

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Speaker 1: so it came to fruition, not even was done. What

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Speaker 1: It was done. So Gibe did everything in his power

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Speaker 1: our joy down, to minimize our joy, to make it

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Speaker 1: almost impossible for us to give it. Get it. He's

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Speaker 1: a thief of joy. He has a thief of joy

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Speaker 1: to disable us. He's supposed to enabling us. He has

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Speaker 1: tried to disable us in every possible way and this,

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Speaker 1: and yet still it's done. Brad told us a story

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Speaker 1: trying to intercept the package he was dealing with FedEx.

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Speaker 1: He was then trying to go yes, Yes, trying to

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Speaker 1: intercept the package for it could get to Brad. And

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Speaker 1: then apparently payments were offered to Brad Melon to burn these,

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Speaker 1: watch that. It just hurts why he's noticed he's not

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Speaker 1: forward to the entire last two minutes of this conversation

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Speaker 1: and a retraction at about three oh five. Please, how

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Speaker 1: could there be what do you mean? How could there

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Speaker 1: are questioning the integrity of Brad Melon the b MP PE.

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Speaker 1: Is that what you're doing right now? Brad and I

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Speaker 1: have our own conversations. I know he told us well,

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Speaker 1: he said that you were flat out against it and

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Speaker 1: but I heard Yeah, I wanted to be a failure.

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Speaker 1: We should. Um. One other key component of this is

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Speaker 1: the Great Pods pod shout out, Uh, unbelievable, Mark unbelievable. Uh.

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Speaker 1: It's his original design. It's perfect, and it's perfect perfect.

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Speaker 1: I mean he even created two for us to choose from.

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Speaker 1: And we went with this and it was a consensus

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Speaker 1: it was. It's the right choice, I think for sure. Um,

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Speaker 1: there is the matter of there is one outstanding unclaimed. Now,

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Speaker 1: this could be something that we bestow, could be could

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Speaker 1: be something that's bestowed. It's in our it's it's we

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Speaker 1: fundraiser with it. Uh, loyal listeners one loyal listener, lottery

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Speaker 1: ed Bobby therapy, or perhaps perhaps there's an essay writing contest,

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Speaker 1: an essay writing contest. Well, then I would have to

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Speaker 1: read the essays. I'll read them. I don't want to

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Speaker 1: maybe maybe an essay contest. Maybe you have to be

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Speaker 1: an essay contest exposing exposing our greatness that we could

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Speaker 1: read whoever can put it in the best context. Or

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Speaker 1: why do you love you? Get three sentences grammatically correct.

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Speaker 1: Why do you love CBD? And why do you deserve

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Speaker 1: this hoodie? Or so why do you love us? Yeah? Well,

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Speaker 1: So that's or it's a pretty good trade chip trade piece.

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Speaker 1: That's the other part. Which and and by the way,

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Speaker 1: guess who has already hit me up last night talking

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Speaker 1: trade already? Meland Wow, they're darn righty was Yeah, yep,

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Speaker 1: I mean because I think I think the one thing

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Speaker 1: and less extend others. Why don't we trade it to

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Speaker 1: interesting you have you've dropped that RV twice this week

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Speaker 1: just focus on that. Yeah, let's let's just try and

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Speaker 1: say positive here there. Let's focus on it. You can't

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Speaker 1: did that go? When I told you my solution. What

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Speaker 1: did they think of that? Ignored? As of down? Nana

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Speaker 1: was on the hook for a third of it, by

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Speaker 1: the way, was so that's how you do it. Drew

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Speaker 1: He is working on his case for the endclaimed and

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Speaker 1: it has to do with on air lights for us. Well,

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Speaker 1: now now we're talking. Now we're talking that would benefit

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Speaker 1: our lives, benefit our lives and the show and and

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Speaker 1: Andrew's a great human. And Drew found on air lights

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Speaker 1: well five months after the fact, not of five months,

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Speaker 1: five years, five years? What do you mean like the

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Speaker 1: whole time? Hold on, I really need to know this.

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Speaker 1: This is bothering me. It's eating at me. Give a

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Speaker 1: why are you not wearing your hoodie? Today was the day?

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Speaker 1: Today's the day I missed the memo number one. Connor

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Speaker 1: did I give him the memo verbally five different times

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Speaker 1: in the last two hours. He handed me a sweatshirt

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Speaker 1: and said, wear this today. I'm trying to get my

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Speaker 1: sea legs back currently. It's been a rough few days.

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Speaker 1: It's amazing that you always try to like come at

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Speaker 1: a vast repertoire. We didn't ask you to go run

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Speaker 1: a marathon. We were already asking about your legs. We're

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Speaker 1: the veteran in the room, give me more targets. And

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Speaker 1: and you don't hear it from any of these guys.

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Speaker 1: Hayden Hurst as well. You know, there's been some hayden

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Speaker 1: Hurst games where he's had six seven catches. Last week,

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Speaker 1: you're right, he had uh, you know, some big plays.

431
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Speaker 1: Obviously the touchdown stands out for most these guys are

432
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Speaker 1: just really unselfish and there you know. Joe Mixon is

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Speaker 1: another example. They haven't ran the ball great this year,

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Speaker 1: but he's kept a really good attitude and last week

435
00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:05,000
Speaker 1: it got rewarded, rewarded the average over five yards to carry.

436
00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,240
Speaker 1: The offensive line was able to get some real push

437
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Speaker 1: and he had some success. But none of these guys

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Speaker 1: have complained. And I think that's really really rare, and

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Speaker 1: I think it starts with Joe because Joe isn't going

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Speaker 1: to throw the ball where are to a guy just

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Speaker 1: because that guy complained. So I don't think anyone complains.

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Speaker 1: Everyone knows that he's going to make the decision that

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Speaker 1: he thinks his best. And if you do that and

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Speaker 1: you're consistent with it, well then you can live with

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Speaker 1: it because more times than not, Joe is gonna be right. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you just be ready because it could be the big moments,

447
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Speaker 1: the one where the ball does go your way. Uh,

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Speaker 1: let's talk about that line because that was one of

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Speaker 1: the things that people were really concerned about, right, and

450
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Speaker 1: now you're going against a chief team that doesn't have

451
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Speaker 1: a lot of household names. But Chris Jones very good,

452
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Speaker 1: Frank Clark upfront, what's the state of that line in

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Speaker 1: terms of you know who's gonna be out there? And

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Speaker 1: then what do you think of their performance last week

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Speaker 1: against the Bills. Yeah, they're gonna be thought Alex Kappa

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Speaker 1: and Jonah Williams again this week, and so three starters down.

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Speaker 1: Well Collins out for the season, Kapa and Williams. I

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Speaker 1: think they'd have a shot if they advanced to play

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Speaker 1: in Super Bowl fifty seven. So that means it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be Jackson Carmen at left tackle, court Ell Wilson and

461
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Speaker 1: Ted Harris at left garden center, and both of those

462
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Speaker 1: guys have started every game this year, and then a

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Speaker 1: right guard. You'll see Max sharping for a third straight

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Speaker 1: start in a keemod energy at right tackle. They played

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Speaker 1: great last week and I was shocked. I didn't think

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Speaker 1: they'd be able to get that push on the ground,

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Speaker 1: which made life much much easier for Burrow and he's

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Speaker 1: not used to that, you know, And so they got

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Speaker 1: out to a lead. He had time was only stacked once.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that's gonna be the case this week.

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Speaker 1: I think they're gonna be tested much more. But if

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Speaker 1: you can contain Chris Jones, I think you have a

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Speaker 1: good shot to to move the ball up and down

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Speaker 1: the field against the Chiefs. James, you know the interest

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Speaker 1: we talked. I talked to people from the Cincinnati side

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Speaker 1: of it, people from the Kansas City side of it,

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Speaker 1: and it's interesting, no matter what side, most people feel

478
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Speaker 1: like that Cincinnati is the better team. And the expectations

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Speaker 1: to go down to Kansas City and win um and

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Speaker 1: and they've won. This would be their fourth consecutive and

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Speaker 1: all three of those games Kansas City had to lead,

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Speaker 1: sometimes big leads. They always had to lead going into

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Speaker 1: the fourth. In order for that to happen, it would

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Speaker 1: have to be another loss from the Homes at Arrowhead

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Speaker 1: with read and I just keep in the I think

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati appears to be the best team too. But in

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Speaker 1: the back of my head, I keep thinking, really, is

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Speaker 1: Mahomes really gonna lose four straight to this team like that?

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Speaker 1: Just that's They're like, where are you as you head

490
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Speaker 1: down there for the game on Sunday? Where's your head

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Speaker 1: on how this thing goes? I agree with you. That

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Speaker 1: was kind of my logic going into that early December

493
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Speaker 1: game that Week thirteen game is all right, are you

494
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Speaker 1: really going to beat them three times in a year

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Speaker 1: in eleven months? Like that's it's still my homes and

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Speaker 1: Read and Kelsey and you know the Chiefs leading up

497
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Speaker 1: to that game, we're clearly out for revenge and made

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Speaker 1: that known in the Bengals. They won the game, but

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Speaker 1: they left points on the field. They had to flow

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Speaker 1: end around to Trent down where on the goal line

501
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Speaker 1: or if you call any other player, you probably pick

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Speaker 1: up the first town and maybe score and uh, you know,

503
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 1: so I think that they Tyler Boyd had a drop

504
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 1: touchdown in that game too, I believe. So they left

505
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:12,880
Speaker 1: points out there are still found the way to win.

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00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 1: I think that they are the better team. Five Arrowhead.

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Speaker 1: That crowd, it's the loudest stadium I've ever been in.

508
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 1: That's tough. The the offensive line issues. It's one thing

509
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 1: to get out to a lead against the Bills and

510
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Speaker 1: not have to communicate as much because they or not

511
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Speaker 1: have as many communication issues because the crowd isn't allowed

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Speaker 1: because you have a fourteen nothing lead early in the quarter. Uh,

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Speaker 1: much different when Arrowheads going crazy. And so I think

514
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Speaker 1: getting off to a start a good start, which they

515
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Speaker 1: haven't really done. I certainly didn't do last year, and

516
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Speaker 1: they have to title game is big for this team.

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Speaker 1: I'm leaning Bengals, but I think it's gonna be a

518
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Speaker 1: really close game. And I expect Patrick Mahomes. I know

519
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Speaker 1: there's a lot of talk about his ankle. I just

520
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 1: expect him to play at a really high level because

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Speaker 1: it's still Patrick Mahomes. If you look at Borough stats,

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Speaker 1: three straight under two fifty five of the last six

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Speaker 1: under two fifty is that you know? And he has

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Speaker 1: the three five against New England and that was a

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Speaker 1: gaming through two picks, uh and they went twenty two

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Speaker 1: to eighteen, which is wild when he throw for three

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Speaker 1: seventy five and three to have twenty two points only

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Speaker 1: in the game. Is that something that has been by design?

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Speaker 1: Is that something that you would imagine would have to

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Speaker 1: change if you want to go beat Kansas City in

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Speaker 1: the Kansas City game when they won four goes, six

532
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Speaker 1: and two, what's kind of do you read anything into

533
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Speaker 1: that or is that just winner football? Tough opponents in

534
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 1: the Baltimore Ravens tough opponent obviously in the snow against Buffalo, well,

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Speaker 1: I think they got up to got out to such

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Speaker 1: a lead and they were in control against Buffalo. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he started nine for nine for one oh five and

538
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 1: us throwing it all over and they were like, we

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Speaker 1: can actually, And this is so weird to say, because

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Speaker 1: I thought going into that game it's going to be

541
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Speaker 1: so tight. Probably the surprise of the playoffs to be

542
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Speaker 1: to this point that it was such a one sided game.

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Speaker 1: But the fact that they were in control and the

544
00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,760
Speaker 1: defense was playing as well as they they were, I

545
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:09,880
Speaker 1: think they dialed it back and they leaned on that

546
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Speaker 1: run game. He could have thrown for three dred last week,

547
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Speaker 1: and so yeah, they're certainly built if it does need

548
00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:17,680
Speaker 1: to be a shootout and it is going to go

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00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 1: that route, you know, they they're still confident in throwing

550
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Speaker 1: it around and I think they're gonna throw it early,

551
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 1: but they certainly hope that that Joe Mixon in this

552
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Speaker 1: offensive line can get some push in the run games. James,

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Speaker 1: great stuff, man, Thanks for your time today. Yeah, of course,

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Speaker 1: thanks for having me. All Right, that's James Rapine joining

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Speaker 1: us on the road on the Twisted Tea Hotline, brought

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Speaker 1: you by Twisted Tea Hard Iced t official sponsor the

557
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Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns keep it twisted Cleveland when they like last weekendst. Buffalo,

558
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 1: they did this when they get leads like they just salted,

559
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:49,400
Speaker 1: like they just snap it with two seconds like they

560
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 1: just they burn it. They burned clock like it's and

561
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 1: they've been able to get Mixing going. That's a huge

562
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 1: part of this. It's even able to get him going.

563
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Speaker 1: But it's most even second half for Mixing. He's still

564
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 1: through thirty six times. Yeah, he threw it against Baltimore

565
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 1: forty two for two and fifteen yards, thirty nine against

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Speaker 1: Tampa for two hundred yards, I mean, and then early

567
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 1: in the year you'd be like thirty seven three hundred yards.

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Speaker 1: So it's just interesting. But his career for the Chiefs,

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Speaker 1: thirty five is average game against the Chiefs at thirty

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Speaker 1: five three or sixty six yards, three touchdowns. It feels

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Speaker 1: pretty good. That feels pretty good. Yeah, that's pretty good.

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Speaker 1: We'll pick it later, um. But it's funny. I meant

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Speaker 1: what I said to James, Like everybody I've talked to

574
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Speaker 1: morning or afternoon, it's Cincinnati, Cincinnati, Cincinnati, Cincinnati, Cincinnati, Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: And that's why both and that's why I can't possibly

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Speaker 1: choose the wine in front of me. It feels like

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00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,440
Speaker 1: it's too much of a foregone conclusion. It's a very

578
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 1: good football team, and that's a pick them a game,

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Speaker 1: that's a pick them. Yeah, it's it's it's vacillated. It

580
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 1: was one and a half to two and a half

581
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Speaker 1: to pick I don't know where it is today. Um,

582
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 1: but yeah, it's just there's so much pressure on the

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Speaker 1: Kansas City side of it. But now I feel like

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of pressure on the Banks. They're almost

585
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,480
Speaker 1: being treated like a favorite. They lost the Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: last year. I think it's Kansas City. I think it's

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00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:10,239
Speaker 1: at home. It's five street NFC championship games. It's just

588
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:13,040
Speaker 1: the one super Bowl. You know, there's kind of a

589
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 1: Braves feel to it, the nineties Braves. So they went

590
00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:18,960
Speaker 1: so many at bats, you know, but they went to two,

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00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 1: went to two one on one one. Yeah, this would

592
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:24,160
Speaker 1: be too straight. I mean you'd start to lose the

593
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 1: mystique of Arrowhead if you lose this game. Yeah, there's

594
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 1: a lot online for both of these teams. Well, if

595
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 1: you're in the you're gonna play to win to the

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Speaker 1: Super go to the super Bowl, Yeah for sure. But

597
00:31:31,040 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 1: like it does feel like to me, it feels like

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00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:38,120
Speaker 1: there's more on Kansas City and with with everything it

599
00:31:38,200 --> 00:31:41,280
Speaker 1: played there. But I would agree it would feel that

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Speaker 1: way to me even more if they were like three

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Speaker 1: or four point favorites. The fact that like they're being

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Speaker 1: spread and treated as though they are the inferior team,

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00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 1: that does put a little bit of pressure on like

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Speaker 1: the Bengals in my mind. And the way that they're

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Speaker 1: talking and they're calling it burrow head like they're doing

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Speaker 1: they are doing a lot of times. They're doing a

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Speaker 1: lot of talking man, which maybe because they know they

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Speaker 1: can back it up. Yeah, they have a ton of Yeah.

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Speaker 1: It just feels like this is a game is gonna

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Speaker 1: come down to, like who makes the critical mistake? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and it's you know, it hasn't been burrow in these

612
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 1: moments he has He has not done that as it

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00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 1: turned it over since uh week sixteen against New England.

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Speaker 1: All right, coming up next, our positional breakdowns continue. We

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Speaker 1: do the tight end position. Coming up next, you listen

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Speaker 1: the snap back looking firing up in the air, touchdown

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Speaker 1: David and Chucko takes the snap play action. Fate got

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Speaker 1: to the right looking pro Bryan and he hung on

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Speaker 1: what I catches he got drill Harrison Bryant on I

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Speaker 1: nine yard hero catch hold. Tight en room, we have

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Speaker 1: amazing athletes, you know with Harrison Faroe di are you know? So?

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Speaker 1: I know they work hard every day. They prepare as

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Speaker 1: if they are tight on one. So watch an underneath

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Speaker 1: center churance play action fake throws it up court at

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Speaker 1: Joco with the ted he's at the firt. He dies

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Speaker 1: for the Pilote touchdown. The chief is in the hands

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Speaker 1: on and he slams down that ball on a thirteen

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Speaker 1: yard catch and running crows wide open. It's Harrison Bryan touchdown.

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Speaker 1: Brown's welcome back to Florida. Harrison Bryant first touchdown on

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Speaker 1: the year. Our whole tight end room is extremely talented,

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Speaker 1: as you've seen so far. You know, all we really

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Speaker 1: talk about and focus on in our room is just

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Speaker 1: getting better every day. And I think we've all done

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Speaker 1: that and just looking to continue to do that. First

639
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 1: in chance, chakes it, drops to throw, look, pulls it down.

640
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 1: Now he's gonna run, gets away from one too. He's

641
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 1: kept priyant. You might open at the fifty, at the

642
00:33:54,560 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 1: forty five across the field, still running at the party

643
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 1: at the thirty nine yard line, watching who Lake's life?

644
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 1: Got a man up and it's caught hit. Joku tends

645
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 1: out of left five yard line, head out him, eyes

646
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 1: looking back, throws near side of Joke, Who's wide open

647
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 1: up the side line twenty five. He hurdles twenty and

648
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 1: he did sign the twenty and he finally goes into

649
00:34:14,920 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 1: the brown sideline. We may not win the game, but

650
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 1: we win the hurdles. The mind of the hurdle on

651
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 1: the end, I guess it's just like the spark of

652
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 1: the moment. Here's percent looking firing end zone. What a

653
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:32,000
Speaker 1: catch by a Joko touchdown? What a catch by the

654
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 1: Chief touchdown? He put it up where only the Chief

655
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:38,319
Speaker 1: could get it, and he went up with the one

656
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 1: hand only his left hand with the defender draped out him,

657
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,840
Speaker 1: and stared it in. What a catch by the Chief

658
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:52,399
Speaker 1: when you needed at the most. Oh my goodness, Jim yes,

659
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 1: fantastic as we can. Sender can continue our offseason positional

660
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 1: breakdown at the tight end position. Now now now ye,

661
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 1: now you're on here, now you're on you good? Uh.

662
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 1: It is the tight end position al right there it

663
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 1: is now you're good yep uh. And it is of

664
00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:17,800
Speaker 1: course led by the Chief. Fifty eight receptions, uh, just eleven.

665
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 1: It's hard to believe in tween he topped that, but

666
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:24,480
Speaker 1: he did uh four touchdowns as well. Harrison Bryant back

667
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: as well, thirty one receptions to thirty nine and a

668
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:30,920
Speaker 1: touch Um. I'll tell you what. The Chief had a

669
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 1: great year. There's more in there. Oh yeah, big bigly, bigly,

670
00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:40,359
Speaker 1: bigly bigly in that way. And Harrison Bryant career year,

671
00:35:40,640 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 1: he exceeded his career high in yards by one, his

672
00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 1: catches by seven touchdowns. First time he did not have

673
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 1: three touchdowns in the season. But you go to the Chief,

674
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:52,319
Speaker 1: here's the thing. He has an opportunity to really become

675
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:54,839
Speaker 1: and I think he was an elite tight end this year.

676
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:56,880
Speaker 1: He's one of the best blocking tight ends in the NFL.

677
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:01,080
Speaker 1: Four we talked about, but if you really go in

678
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:03,520
Speaker 1: and kind of dive into what David and Joku was

679
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 1: able to do last year. You gotta remember he missed

680
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 1: a few games. He missed three games on the season,

681
00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 1: and really, you know you had some bad weather late

682
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,799
Speaker 1: obviously affected his stats against New Orleans. But a guy,

683
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:18,560
Speaker 1: uh there he is the designer podes walking by. What

684
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:23,399
Speaker 1: a moment of triumph, glory, thank you, thank you, thank

685
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 1: you in the original I mean, this is what a

686
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 1: moment that was, just like a Spider Man gift. Yeah, really, well, yeah, gorgeous.

687
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,120
Speaker 1: You know, three touchdowns, all three he had three of

688
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,600
Speaker 1: us four touchdowns came in the final six games, two

689
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 1: of them in the in the games with uh, with

690
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:44,880
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson, I really think that he has a chance

691
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 1: to become one of the pre eminent tight ends in

692
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:48,840
Speaker 1: the game. And what you saw this year was that

693
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:52,279
Speaker 1: stretched right before he got hurt against Pittsburgh nine for

694
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 1: nine a touchdown, five for seventy three against Atlanta, Sight

695
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 1: against Chargers, three for fifty eight, seven for seventy one

696
00:36:58,200 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 1: against the Ravens. That's what he and b he can

697
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 1: be a guy who gives you seventy yards every single game.

698
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:05,319
Speaker 1: If he does that, yes, he will be over a

699
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 1: thousand yards on the season. I think that that is

700
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:10,000
Speaker 1: certainly within play for him, especially get somebody with some

701
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:11,759
Speaker 1: speed open up the middle of the field even more.

702
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 1: But David a Joco, I think is ready to really

703
00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 1: ascend to that elite level. If you still look on

704
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 1: a per game basis, he was top six or seven

705
00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:23,920
Speaker 1: in every category for tight ends. So this was a

706
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 1: very productive year. It's what you expected after you gave

707
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 1: him that contract. And I think even bigger things are

708
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:32,160
Speaker 1: on the horizon with a full season of Deshaun Watson

709
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 1: in a full season of this offense really starting to

710
00:37:34,600 --> 00:37:38,360
Speaker 1: get into gear as it goes forward. You said something

711
00:37:38,440 --> 00:37:40,600
Speaker 1: interesting off the top there. You said many interesting things,

712
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 1: but this, I think this one I took note of.

713
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 1: You said, um that you really believe he's one of

714
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 1: the best tight ends in the league, all around tight

715
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,719
Speaker 1: ends in the league. Uh, Is it essential that he

716
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 1: is based on the way our roster is constructed, because

717
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 1: I think it might be. Yeah, he needs to be

718
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 1: I'm not saying Kelsey, but the next the step below

719
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 1: that that is probably required based on the way our

720
00:38:02,400 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 1: rosters put together. If he can give you, you know,

721
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 1: you's gotta be around a thousand yards in that vicinity

722
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,359
Speaker 1: it depends on who this new receiver is, right, But

723
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 1: we know that's gonna be hard. Yes, I mean, let's

724
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:15,520
Speaker 1: just let's put all the cards on the table. You

725
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,239
Speaker 1: don't have a first round pick. You have tremendous need

726
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 1: at defensive line and at speed receiver. That's gonna be

727
00:38:22,040 --> 00:38:24,399
Speaker 1: hard to come by. So you're gonna it's probably gonna

728
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,640
Speaker 1: be somebody drafted in the later rounds. It could be

729
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 1: a free agent, but you never know how that's all

730
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:32,799
Speaker 1: gonna shake out. Um, he's kind of here's one thing,

731
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,239
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? We were at We threw

732
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:40,799
Speaker 1: for thirty seven hundred and ten yards this year. Okay,

733
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:43,839
Speaker 1: my guess on a conservative estimate is with a full

734
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,879
Speaker 1: season Deshaun Watson, we're gonna be throwing for we'll call

735
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 1: it conservative forty three yards. Let's call it that. Is

736
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 1: that fair to you? On a conservative it's probably more

737
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:58,200
Speaker 1: than that. I just want with the seventeen game, like

738
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:00,319
Speaker 1: on a sixteen game, I always had a good two

739
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:04,439
Speaker 1: fifty two yards a game will probably be above that. Yeah,

740
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 1: I think we'll be above that. Let's let's see where

741
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,759
Speaker 1: the um Let me just see where the leaders were

742
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:14,160
Speaker 1: this year in yards. UM just I'm gonna do an excess.

743
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 1: Brady left it. You continue the exercise. Brady was at

744
00:39:17,080 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 1: fifty two fifty, so I mean that's absurd. How many

745
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 1: people were Herbert was forty seven. Uh no, Mahomes was fifty,

746
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:32,239
Speaker 1: Brady was um forty, Cousins was so that feels about

747
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,399
Speaker 1: somewhere in there. Burrow was okay, let's just say it's

748
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 1: fort okay, and this year we were thirty seven tent

749
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:47,839
Speaker 1: so thy seven ten is eighty two eight too, So

750
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 1: we have a ton of room to grow. And I'll

751
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,760
Speaker 1: do it the other way, which would be divided by

752
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:57,719
Speaker 1: thirty seven ten, which equals one point two, and then

753
00:39:57,760 --> 00:39:59,800
Speaker 1: just multiply that by the chiefs number. So if the

754
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:03,320
Speaker 1: chief just does the exact same share in that offense,

755
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:05,680
Speaker 1: you know he's up. We're now at eight hundred yards.

756
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 1: That's in fourteen game said, if you were to do

757
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 1: that in oh j W, he's excited. If you take

758
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 1: what the chief did last year over over, there's women do.

759
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 1: So basically, a thousand yards is very much within the

760
00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:25,240
Speaker 1: realm of possibility. So I think he needs a bigger share,

761
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. I think it's important that he

762
00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:30,439
Speaker 1: actually grows even at the same share if he played

763
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 1: seventeen games in what we're talking about next year. So

764
00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 1: if he increases, which I think is necessary and I

765
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:41,400
Speaker 1: think likely, Yeah, a thousand yards is absolutely in the

766
00:40:41,440 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 1: realm of possibility for him, and as as are in

767
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:47,280
Speaker 1: my opinion, you know, seven eight touchdowns. But he also

768
00:40:47,400 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 1: is what he does as a blocker. If he can

769
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 1: give you Dallas Goddard, if he can give you even

770
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:54,880
Speaker 1: what Dalton Schultz has been of late for the Dallas

771
00:40:54,920 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 1: Cowboys through the air, and then be the blocker that

772
00:40:57,680 --> 00:40:59,680
Speaker 1: he is on top of that, that's gonna be a

773
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 1: pretty incredible situation for the Cleveland Browns. And I don't

774
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,800
Speaker 1: see why he cannot do that. I think he is

775
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:10,120
Speaker 1: very capable of doing that. I agree, and I do

776
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:12,919
Speaker 1: think that it's I think it's gonna be because it

777
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:15,879
Speaker 1: it is gonna be tough to find what ails you

778
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:18,839
Speaker 1: at the receiver spot pick. You're not gonna you need

779
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,239
Speaker 1: somebody to fall into your lap, and the second or

780
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,839
Speaker 1: third round you need to discover somebody there. It's hard

781
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 1: to find those or you're gonna have to get like

782
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 1: a DJ Chark. And he's somebody who can do, it

783
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 1: would be a reasonably price free agent. Um. The thing

784
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:33,840
Speaker 1: is you need Chief to be all that, because Harrison

785
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 1: Bryant is kind of in the same range all the time.

786
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,919
Speaker 1: Now more opportunities, you would say, maybe he can do more.

787
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 1: But if we were to go ahead and quickly zoom

788
00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 1: in on Harrison Bryant season this year, in the games

789
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 1: that David and Joku missed, you'd say yourself, oh, well,

790
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 1: then that means he's gonna really, you know, kind of

791
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:52,480
Speaker 1: blow up. Well, the first game he miss Agains Cincinnati

792
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:55,800
Speaker 1: went thirteen, he doesn't catch it. Pass Miami three catches

793
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 1: for fifteen yards, Buffalo four catches for forty one yards.

794
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:02,719
Speaker 1: So that didn't manifest itself that way. I think that

795
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 1: you would like to maybe mid round drafty tight end.

796
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 1: I think Zayre Mitchell Payton, who's certainly here in your

797
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:11,320
Speaker 1: reserve future deal. They think he can be a blocking

798
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 1: tight end what Farrell Brown was for the team. You

799
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,320
Speaker 1: could always bring Farrell Brown back. He's an unrestricted free agent.

800
00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 1: Who's Mitchell Payton was the basketball player at Texas Tech.

801
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:24,040
Speaker 1: He's been He's yes, big physical specimen guy. Jesse James

802
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:25,359
Speaker 1: has been the league for eight years. You know, he's

803
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:27,000
Speaker 1: still here. I see him all the time here rehab

804
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:29,680
Speaker 1: and but yeah, it's about Chief. If this room is

805
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 1: gonna be elite, Chief needs to give you elite production.

806
00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 1: There's nobody else here that is going to do that

807
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 1: for you. Harrison Brian is a good player, a solid

808
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,280
Speaker 1: role player. You probably need to add one more solid

809
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 1: role player, either in the draft or free agency to

810
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 1: round out the room and then see if I are

811
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:45,240
Speaker 1: Mitchell Payton can take a step because physically he's exactly

812
00:42:45,239 --> 00:42:47,919
Speaker 1: what you want. I mean, he's a big, strong man. Yeah,

813
00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 1: Harrison Bryan has been more productive than than we we

814
00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:54,919
Speaker 1: did the receiver room, uh yesterday and the receiver room

815
00:42:55,120 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 1: when we're talking about Bell and we're talking about Schwartz

816
00:42:57,080 --> 00:42:59,160
Speaker 1: and we're talking about those guys like Harrison Bryan has

817
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 1: been more product dive, But it also feels like the

818
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:05,120
Speaker 1: time to make an impact is running a bit thin

819
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:08,600
Speaker 1: in terms of consistent impact. Like I think the hope

820
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 1: was that he'd be a little further along and be

821
00:43:10,200 --> 00:43:13,239
Speaker 1: able to have contributed more the last certainly this year,

822
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:16,520
Speaker 1: um than than maybe what happened. And some of that's

823
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:18,319
Speaker 1: the product of the situation you were in with the

824
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 1: quarterback switch and everything else. I mean, he only got

825
00:43:21,120 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 1: forty two targets, you know, so in he caught seventy

826
00:43:25,080 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 1: four percent of his targets. He had one of the

827
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:29,440
Speaker 1: highest cat rates on the team. Only Kareem Hunt had

828
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 1: a higher catch rate than him of people who are

829
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 1: targeted on a regular basis. Um, so he did a

830
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 1: good job from that respect. Chief by the way, it

831
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:41,360
Speaker 1: was great this year. Seventy Uh, he just limited opportunities.

832
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 1: I think he's just a little bit limited in terms

833
00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 1: of his explosiveness as an athlete all of those things. Um,

834
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 1: he's improved as a blocker, but yeah, you don't want

835
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 1: him to have big numbers because you want naven A

836
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:53,720
Speaker 1: Joku to have huge numbers. And quite frankly, we're gonna

837
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:57,480
Speaker 1: go more towards i think, being an eleven personnel based

838
00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:01,840
Speaker 1: team with the show on Watson, so it's not as important,

839
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:03,520
Speaker 1: but it's nice, Harrison Bryan because a good depth. And

840
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 1: that's why I said you can maybe you can get

841
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:07,640
Speaker 1: away with maybe even two tight ends on the fifty

842
00:44:07,719 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 1: three and one on the practice squad this year when

843
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:12,320
Speaker 1: you're doing roster creation, because I think we'll be constructed differently.

844
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 1: The days of needing three and four tight ends, I

845
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 1: think are are over. You might have a play here

846
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,160
Speaker 1: or a play there where you do that, but it's

847
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:21,000
Speaker 1: not going to certainly be a huge part of what

848
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 1: we do. I don't think it'll be as big a

849
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:25,560
Speaker 1: part as what we do as it was in recent memory. No,

850
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 1: it doesn't seem so giving. Wants to know what was

851
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:30,760
Speaker 1: the most impressive change you saw from David d Joku

852
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:32,800
Speaker 1: from last season to this That's easy for me, and

853
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:34,359
Speaker 1: it has nothing to do with on the field, where

854
00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:37,320
Speaker 1: he was excellent, but we've seen his potential for years.

855
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 1: To me, it was his leadership. I thought the words

856
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 1: that he spoke, the way that he he is, He

857
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 1: lives the accountability that I think this organization strives for.

858
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:49,800
Speaker 1: And I think if more people had the mindset that

859
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 1: David d Joku has an approached things the way that

860
00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:54,000
Speaker 1: he does, I think this team would have been in

861
00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:56,200
Speaker 1: a better place this year than it was. I love

862
00:44:56,280 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 1: that leadership. I love that he said this is on us.

863
00:44:58,920 --> 00:45:01,120
Speaker 1: If you don't like the results, like work harder or

864
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 1: be better. Period. Love that. Love the chief he It's

865
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:10,440
Speaker 1: it's so interesting how he approached the contract that he

866
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:15,200
Speaker 1: was given as a way of watch me justify this

867
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:19,319
Speaker 1: on and off the field, which was refreshing um because

868
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:20,919
Speaker 1: you always see that in a professional athlete. You don't

869
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,799
Speaker 1: usually sometimes that happens, and it's it's a chill that

870
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 1: that wasn't here. Man. Chief got got compensated like a

871
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:28,879
Speaker 1: big time tight end, and he said, watch me earn

872
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 1: this on and off the field, and became a real

873
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:33,280
Speaker 1: team leader, which is why I believe in his ability

874
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:35,840
Speaker 1: to be great, because physically he's got tremendous gifts, but

875
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 1: he's got the right mindset. There are people who in

876
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:39,440
Speaker 1: this league who get paid and are like I made it,

877
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 1: and then they coast. Then there are other people in

878
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 1: this league who get paid and then have what I

879
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 1: would call somewhat of a mental crisis where it's, oh man,

880
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 1: they said I'm this good? Like am I this good? Oh?

881
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:57,280
Speaker 1: Now they're talking bad about me? But I got paid

882
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:00,760
Speaker 1: And so it almost has them like a drinking violence

883
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 1: drink from the competition, whereas David and Joku took it

884
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 1: head on and and I think of that if you can,

885
00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:08,279
Speaker 1: you know, somehow kind of get into and I know

886
00:46:08,320 --> 00:46:10,279
Speaker 1: that these organizations do that the way that Nick Chubb,

887
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 1: Dick Nick Chubb gets paid and it's like, I'm gonna

888
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:14,880
Speaker 1: work harder and not be afraid. I'm not going to

889
00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,520
Speaker 1: be afraid of what this status says about me. I'm

890
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 1: gonna live it. And I think that's an important thing. Yeah,

891
00:46:21,600 --> 00:46:23,920
Speaker 1: and he will um In terms of what this room

892
00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:26,320
Speaker 1: could look like, it will. It speaks to the change

893
00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 1: going to much more shotgun, much more eleven versus what

894
00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,759
Speaker 1: we've been up until this point. Yeah, we'll still unders

895
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:34,279
Speaker 1: and I think we'll still do two tight end sets.

896
00:46:34,280 --> 00:46:36,880
Speaker 1: But for the most part, you want to put you know,

897
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:40,000
Speaker 1: your quarterback in the most advantageous positions. I think part

898
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 1: of that is going to be combining the superstructured nature

899
00:46:43,680 --> 00:46:46,280
Speaker 1: of our offense and the timing and rhythm with those laps,

900
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:49,880
Speaker 1: and also marrying that with just giving him plays and

901
00:46:49,960 --> 00:46:53,879
Speaker 1: letting him be a playmaker. Absolutely, all right, we will

902
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:58,160
Speaker 1: take a deep dive on the NFC Championship game. We

903
00:46:58,200 --> 00:46:59,879
Speaker 1: will figure out this is a good one too, man,

904
00:47:00,040 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 1: Niners and Eagles. There's a lot in this one. We'll

905
00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:03,560
Speaker 1: get you set for that one coming up. Next you

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00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 1: listen to Cleveland Browns Daily, brought you by Bally Bet

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914
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915
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:53,360
Speaker 1: the NBC Sports Bay Area. Jennifer Luchan joins us. Jennifer,

916
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 1: thank you so much. Let's just start with the party.

917
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:59,240
Speaker 1: I mean, this is just one of the most remarkable stories,

918
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:03,680
Speaker 1: uh in the league before he started playing. Were there

919
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 1: any whispers out of Niners camp of what he was

920
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:09,359
Speaker 1: capable of? Or did this hit everybody like a ton

921
00:48:09,360 --> 00:48:12,960
Speaker 1: of bricks? You know, I think it hit everybody outside

922
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,360
Speaker 1: the building like a ton of bricks, But everybody inside

923
00:48:15,400 --> 00:48:17,839
Speaker 1: the building saw what he was doing during training camp

924
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:20,160
Speaker 1: and the limited amount of snaps that he got throughout

925
00:48:20,239 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 1: the season before he was the starter just showed them

926
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 1: what he was capable. Of doing. He ran the scout

927
00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 1: team offense, going against the number one defense in the

928
00:48:30,200 --> 00:48:34,480
Speaker 1: league arguably thence he since the trail, Lance got hurt

929
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 1: and weak too. So you know, he's been going up

930
00:48:37,000 --> 00:48:40,319
Speaker 1: against Fred Warner and Nick Bosa in practice, so he

931
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:42,839
Speaker 1: knows what a top defense can do. And they were

932
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 1: not surprised when he stepped into the spy light that

933
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:48,600
Speaker 1: he's performed the way he has done. They say, are

934
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:50,359
Speaker 1: not surprised about it, but we're talking about a guy

935
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:52,520
Speaker 1: who's played the best football of any quarterback in the

936
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 1: NFL since he took over, hasn't lost game. But do

937
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:56,239
Speaker 1: you want think if he was like, okay, you did

938
00:48:56,280 --> 00:48:58,200
Speaker 1: some good things and it was okay, and you know

939
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:00,360
Speaker 1: we were able to overcome it. But the fact that

940
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 1: they've won some games because of his play, his ability

941
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:06,919
Speaker 1: to deliver on third and lungs, I mean, maybe they knew,

942
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 1: but if they knew, he probably should have been playing

943
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:12,879
Speaker 1: over Jimmy Garoppolo and Trey Lance from the rip. Yeah,

944
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:14,839
Speaker 1: I mean they didn't know how good he would be,

945
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:17,880
Speaker 1: you know, throughout as many games as he's won. But

946
00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:19,600
Speaker 1: I think they knew that he had the potential to

947
00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:22,719
Speaker 1: play very well he's got great pocket awareness. He's one

948
00:49:22,719 --> 00:49:25,640
Speaker 1: of those guys who was very calm and is very

949
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:28,239
Speaker 1: rarely ruffle. So I mean, I think that says a

950
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:30,479
Speaker 1: lot for you know, his preparation. I think a big

951
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:31,920
Speaker 1: part of it is that he was a four year

952
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 1: starter at Iowa State, so he has experience. It's not like,

953
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:38,319
Speaker 1: you know, he only had one year under center, so

954
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:40,680
Speaker 1: that all that experience has really paid off. And a

955
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:43,160
Speaker 1: guy you know who's been told over and over over

956
00:49:43,200 --> 00:49:45,120
Speaker 1: again that he's too short, that he doesn't have enough

957
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:48,120
Speaker 1: arm strength, those things, you know, sitting the guys the

958
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:50,239
Speaker 1: back of the guy's head, and I think it really

959
00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:52,880
Speaker 1: is affected how diligent he is in his work ethic

960
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 1: and that is shown on the field. Is this the

961
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:59,400
Speaker 1: best job Kyle's done out there this season? With everything?

962
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 1: You know? I think part of it is execution, which

963
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 1: of course falls on the quarterback, you know, on the coaches,

964
00:50:05,800 --> 00:50:09,279
Speaker 1: but um, he's also had the most weapons. You look

965
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:11,720
Speaker 1: at what how you know, what has happened since Christian

966
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 1: McCaffrey joined the team. Really, what McCaffrey has done is

967
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:18,600
Speaker 1: what I think they wanted Jerk McKinnon to be when

968
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 1: they first got to Santa Clara. You know, a running

969
00:50:21,600 --> 00:50:23,839
Speaker 1: back deck can really run great routes. And you look

970
00:50:23,840 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 1: at how Jerk McKinnon is, you know, thriving. Now that's

971
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:29,239
Speaker 1: what they wanted to have him do when he was

972
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:32,040
Speaker 1: with the Foreigners. Now they have it in Christian McCaffrey,

973
00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:34,480
Speaker 1: and he's really opened up the offense. You look at

974
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:37,880
Speaker 1: how many star players are around Brock pretty and that

975
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:41,880
Speaker 1: I think also helps him in his performance. All right,

976
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:45,960
Speaker 1: let's talk about the big acquisition mid season, Christian McCaffrey.

977
00:50:46,360 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 1: What is he meant to this offense and just kind

978
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 1: of that's helped Brock Purty as this Kittle, as does Debo,

979
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:53,759
Speaker 1: as is I you can and a great offensive line.

980
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 1: But Christian McCaffrey, it feels like, really is the engine

981
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:59,480
Speaker 1: right now of the forty Niners on offense. He is

982
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:02,880
Speaker 1: he is you know, you you see him in the

983
00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:06,840
Speaker 1: locker room. He's very curious. He doesn't joke around much.

984
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:10,759
Speaker 1: He you know, is just a workforce. And I think

985
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:13,560
Speaker 1: one of the things that happened when Christian McCaffrey came

986
00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:15,879
Speaker 1: into the building is that he was trying to learn

987
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 1: Kyle Shan's playbook. And the guy who worked with him

988
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:23,760
Speaker 1: to get better at it too, recognize hearing the plays

989
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 1: in the huddle with Brock Fury. So those two of

990
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:28,839
Speaker 1: them working together since Christian McCaffrey under the building. McCaffrey

991
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:31,400
Speaker 1: likes to learn the plays by hearing it as opposed

992
00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:33,400
Speaker 1: to just reading it. So the two of them, would

993
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:37,200
Speaker 1: you know, work after practice, Brock would you recite the

994
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:38,840
Speaker 1: plays to him as if they were in the huddle

995
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 1: together and then go through things on air and you know,

996
00:51:42,520 --> 00:51:44,919
Speaker 1: both of them I think benefited greatly from that, and

997
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:47,279
Speaker 1: it's really built the chemistry from the get go for

998
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 1: those two players. Yeah, it's it's it's interesting too, like

999
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 1: you mentioned this, and the McCaffrey's part of that too,

1000
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:55,960
Speaker 1: But Devo and Kittle and Iook, I mean, there's they

1001
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:59,360
Speaker 1: have so many things, so many toys for for Kyle

1002
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:01,759
Speaker 1: to play with. Almost it seems they do so many

1003
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:05,320
Speaker 1: inventive things every snap, every series, if something different is

1004
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 1: in their new wrinkles. Just from your perspective, is it's

1005
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:11,799
Speaker 1: got to be fun, uh covering this team because it

1006
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:13,480
Speaker 1: feels like every time out you see something you haven't

1007
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:17,640
Speaker 1: seen before. Yeah, Kyle does keep it very interesting, is

1008
00:52:17,760 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 1: very very creative. And it's all based on the matchup

1009
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:21,799
Speaker 1: that they're going to get on defense. So what you

1010
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 1: see one week is completely different from what you see

1011
00:52:24,080 --> 00:52:27,320
Speaker 1: the next. So with the Eagles defense and the Cowboys

1012
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:30,400
Speaker 1: defense being very, very different, he's going to have different

1013
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:34,400
Speaker 1: things schemed up, for sure. I think what's been most

1014
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 1: interesting throughout the course of the season and the post

1015
00:52:37,080 --> 00:52:40,239
Speaker 1: season and how they come out of the halftime, out

1016
00:52:40,239 --> 00:52:43,879
Speaker 1: of the break and how they don't reevaluate what they're doing,

1017
00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:45,440
Speaker 1: and the script that they go through at the beginning

1018
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 1: of the half for that first offensive drive really kind

1019
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 1: of shows how he can manipulate an opposing defense. How

1020
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:57,319
Speaker 1: they came out of the break going up against the Cowboys,

1021
00:52:57,760 --> 00:52:59,799
Speaker 1: you know, they went from outside zone to inside because

1022
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 1: they weren't getting a lot of yards. And the way

1023
00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:06,839
Speaker 1: he's able to create space and and manipulate the other

1024
00:53:06,920 --> 00:53:11,359
Speaker 1: posing defense is really remarkable. Is George Kettle is fun

1025
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:16,399
Speaker 1: to cover, as it appears that he would be. He's

1026
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 1: definitely one of the biggest personalities on the team. He's

1027
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:23,399
Speaker 1: lots of fun. I've been, you know, covering George since

1028
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:25,399
Speaker 1: he was a rookie, and it's been fun to see

1029
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 1: him develop and just looking at what he does on

1030
00:53:29,000 --> 00:53:31,239
Speaker 1: the field. I mean just from the bobbling catches to

1031
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 1: not being able to be tackled, if you know, by

1032
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:36,839
Speaker 1: one guy, usually it has to take two, sometimes three,

1033
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:41,160
Speaker 1: sometimes four guys. That bringing down his spirit in his

1034
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:44,440
Speaker 1: you know, excitement for the game is something that I

1035
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:46,919
Speaker 1: think is contagious, and it helps the offense, it helps

1036
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 1: the defense. He's one of those motivating factors on the

1037
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:52,279
Speaker 1: entire team, you know. And the other thing about him

1038
00:53:52,320 --> 00:53:55,320
Speaker 1: that I noticed this in the post game over the loss,

1039
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:58,280
Speaker 1: with the win over Dallas, where they're doing the national

1040
00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 1: post game. I think it was Aaron Andrews and I

1041
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:02,440
Speaker 1: can't recall, but it was whoever it was doing the interview,

1042
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:05,840
Speaker 1: and and Purty was, you know, you could tell like

1043
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:08,480
Speaker 1: he was pretty wide eyed, and and there's a lot

1044
00:54:08,640 --> 00:54:10,400
Speaker 1: that he's taken in at once, and it felt like

1045
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:14,359
Speaker 1: Kittle almost as a security blanket on and off the

1046
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:18,040
Speaker 1: field for Purty. And really, this entire offense is that

1047
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:22,880
Speaker 1: is that true? That perception? I think it's the entire offense.

1048
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 1: Do you look at how they're built, and there's a

1049
00:54:25,520 --> 00:54:29,120
Speaker 1: lot of veteran experience. I mean, it's pretty incredible that

1050
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:32,799
Speaker 1: guys like you know, Deebo samael three NFC championship games

1051
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:36,759
Speaker 1: in four years, and you know veterans like Trent Williams

1052
00:54:36,960 --> 00:54:41,200
Speaker 1: and Christian McCaffrey, George Kittle. I mean, those guys have

1053
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:44,520
Speaker 1: really helped lift Rock Pritty up. Granted, he's absolutely capable

1054
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:46,279
Speaker 1: of doing it on his own because he is so

1055
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:49,480
Speaker 1: you know, wired like a professional, but I think having

1056
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 1: that group around him makes it so much easier for

1057
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:56,160
Speaker 1: a rookie. We haven't even talked about the defense, which

1058
00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:59,680
Speaker 1: is also elite, led by Nick Bose upfront, maybe the

1059
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 1: best linebacker combo in the league, and then they've been

1060
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:05,080
Speaker 1: getting it done on the back end as well. Uh,

1061
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:07,719
Speaker 1: this defense, you know, where does it rank for you

1062
00:55:07,800 --> 00:55:10,359
Speaker 1: among some of the recent Niners defenses and and just

1063
00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:12,560
Speaker 1: how good are they and what do they need to

1064
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:17,640
Speaker 1: do to try to slow down the Philadelphia Eagles. I

1065
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:21,239
Speaker 1: think when they played the Raiders in Week seventeen that

1066
00:55:21,360 --> 00:55:23,640
Speaker 1: was a huge wake up call for them. Jared Stidham

1067
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:27,000
Speaker 1: ran on them and four first downs. I think it

1068
00:55:27,080 --> 00:55:30,279
Speaker 1: really surprised them and it was kind of good for

1069
00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:32,719
Speaker 1: that group to face a little adversity before heading into

1070
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:36,279
Speaker 1: the postseason. They've been much better about keeping their rush

1071
00:55:36,360 --> 00:55:39,560
Speaker 1: lanes clean, and they've been more disciplined going forward. And

1072
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:42,080
Speaker 1: you know, you look at Nick both I mean, you

1073
00:55:42,120 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 1: can't ask for more the old pass rusher he is,

1074
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 1: you know, not only wires up that defensive line, but

1075
00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:55,560
Speaker 1: he's also incredibly physically fit. I mean he played all

1076
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:57,359
Speaker 1: but like three or fourth snaps in that last game

1077
00:55:57,480 --> 00:56:00,839
Speaker 1: versus the Cowboys, which you don't normally see from an addrestor. Uh.

1078
00:56:00,840 --> 00:56:04,160
Speaker 1: Fred Warner and Dre green Law are you know, just

1079
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 1: ridiculously talented. Fred Warner I think in coverage doesn't get

1080
00:56:07,680 --> 00:56:11,680
Speaker 1: enough credit. He was you know he the past play

1081
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:13,920
Speaker 1: on third down to Ceedee Lamb where he was on

1082
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:16,799
Speaker 1: the complete other side of the field and then ran

1083
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:20,560
Speaker 1: across the field to cover him and prevent a conversion.

1084
00:56:20,960 --> 00:56:22,719
Speaker 1: I mean for a guy that big, he shouldn't be

1085
00:56:22,760 --> 00:56:24,960
Speaker 1: able to run that fast. So you look at the

1086
00:56:24,960 --> 00:56:26,920
Speaker 1: talent there and then in the second area. As long

1087
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 1: as the past or she's keeping it, you know, pressure

1088
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 1: on the quarterback, they don't have to cover as long

1089
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:33,480
Speaker 1: the guys back there have been doing a really good job.

1090
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:36,279
Speaker 1: Dealmadoor Ladora has started to kind of blossom. He got

1091
00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:39,120
Speaker 1: two picks in the postseason so far. So they're really

1092
00:56:39,160 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 1: pretty solid across all three levels. They are. And I

1093
00:56:43,160 --> 00:56:46,480
Speaker 1: saw a clip of Bosa miked up. He's just like

1094
00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 1: man getting to the quarterbacks hard. Yeah, I like to

1095
00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:51,960
Speaker 1: get sacked. It just seems like such a just chill

1096
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:56,240
Speaker 1: guy for somebody who is relentless and violent and physical

1097
00:56:56,719 --> 00:56:58,719
Speaker 1: on the field. It sounds like there's a lot of

1098
00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:02,960
Speaker 1: contrasting personnel and he's in that locker room that is he.

1099
00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:05,280
Speaker 1: I actually talked to him about one of his interviews

1100
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:06,879
Speaker 1: that I had listened to, and I was like, you're

1101
00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:11,600
Speaker 1: hilarious on radio. He's like, yeah, my stick. So I

1102
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:15,200
Speaker 1: like that's the personality. He's very mellow, you know. I

1103
00:57:15,200 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 1: think he saves all of his energy for what he

1104
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:19,480
Speaker 1: has to do on the field. One of his best

1105
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:22,960
Speaker 1: kind of answers to us in press conference this year is,

1106
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 1: you know, I'm just the hermit. It's like, you know,

1107
00:57:25,360 --> 00:57:27,959
Speaker 1: he does this thing at the facility. He goes home,

1108
00:57:28,560 --> 00:57:31,440
Speaker 1: he puts himself up on the couch, he watches some shows,

1109
00:57:31,600 --> 00:57:33,720
Speaker 1: and then he goes to sleep, and then he gets

1110
00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:35,480
Speaker 1: up it in the morning and goes back to work.

1111
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:37,200
Speaker 1: So I mean, like he really does not have a

1112
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:40,480
Speaker 1: social life, and I think he's fine with that. You know,

1113
00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:42,400
Speaker 1: I think the biggest goal is getting to the super

1114
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:45,120
Speaker 1: Bowl and winning one, So I mean, you know, hey,

1115
00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:47,680
Speaker 1: the sacrifice is worth it. You know. The thing that

1116
00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:50,960
Speaker 1: is so interesting about this matchup with Philly is these

1117
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:54,720
Speaker 1: two teams have are capable of winning whatever style of

1118
00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 1: fight you want. Like, both these teams have proven they

1119
00:57:57,000 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 1: can score in the thirties approaching forty. They've both prove

1120
00:58:00,640 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 1: that they can win games and the teens, you've observed

1121
00:58:03,200 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 1: this Niners team up close and personal. What type of

1122
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:07,880
Speaker 1: style of fight do you think we're gonna get on Sunday.

1123
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:11,440
Speaker 1: I think the big one is going to be in

1124
00:58:11,480 --> 00:58:14,600
Speaker 1: the trenches for both sides. The offensive line, defensive line.

1125
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:18,440
Speaker 1: Both sides are really well matched and they're very talented.

1126
00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 1: So you know, who's going to be able to eke

1127
00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:24,000
Speaker 1: out more yards? And really I think who makes the

1128
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:26,360
Speaker 1: least amount of mistakes is going to win the game.

1129
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:29,200
Speaker 1: If you know, like watching the Niners play the Cowboys,

1130
00:58:29,840 --> 00:58:33,080
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott's through two picks. So if you know, any

1131
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:35,720
Speaker 1: mistake I think is going to be a huge factor,

1132
00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:39,280
Speaker 1: it affected game. Um, so they've got to play clean ball.

1133
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:42,120
Speaker 1: On both sides, but really in the trenches, that's where

1134
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 1: it's going to happen. As always, I mean, I always

1135
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:47,560
Speaker 1: believe that's where it starts. If they can keep Brock

1136
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:51,360
Speaker 1: pretty clean. Hassan Reddick is so good at getting around

1137
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 1: the corner, So if they can stop him or at

1138
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:55,600
Speaker 1: least slow him down, keep the pocket clean, I think

1139
00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:58,840
Speaker 1: they've got a good chance. All right, I gotta go

1140
00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 1: back one week. I grew up in the Bay Area

1141
00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:05,479
Speaker 1: full disclosure, huge forty Niners fan. Niners Cowboys was that's

1142
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 1: like my eighth grade into early high school, graduated nineties

1143
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:10,480
Speaker 1: SI so saw Steve Young title, but it was a

1144
00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:12,160
Speaker 1: Joe Montana guy. I want to be clear about that.

1145
00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:15,800
Speaker 1: What was that environment like? Because for me watching it,

1146
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:20,040
Speaker 1: the most beautiful uniform combination Jerry Rice, all the Niners,

1147
00:59:20,120 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 1: Leeds and Charles Hayley, Merton Hanks walking around. What was

1148
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:25,600
Speaker 1: it like on the field before that game? And I'm

1149
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 1: bummed of this game's in Philly. Obviously it would be

1150
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:28,760
Speaker 1: cool to have it, you know there, but to have

1151
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:32,360
Speaker 1: a Niners Cowboys playoff game of that level of importance

1152
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 1: in the Bay Area with all those legs are what

1153
00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:37,640
Speaker 1: was it like for somebody who would just eat that

1154
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:44,040
Speaker 1: up like I would. Chaotic. There were so many people

1155
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:46,480
Speaker 1: on the field pre game, I was like, how do

1156
00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:48,560
Speaker 1: we have this many field classes for all these people?

1157
00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:52,760
Speaker 1: But it was incredibly fun, tons of energy and yeah,

1158
00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:55,840
Speaker 1: Joe Montana walking down the field Jerry Rice was kind

1159
00:59:55,880 --> 00:59:59,600
Speaker 1: of a normal feature at most games, but yeah, it

1160
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:04,800
Speaker 1: was quite a scene. I got to see several players

1161
01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:08,000
Speaker 1: like Patrick Willis. Was there a lot of guys from

1162
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:13,280
Speaker 1: that you know that Harbaugh era, Ian Williams, um so,

1163
01:00:13,400 --> 01:00:16,320
Speaker 1: Deshaun Goldson of course on NBC Sports Bear we have

1164
01:00:16,400 --> 01:00:19,160
Speaker 1: Dante Wittner on our team. So yeah, it was a

1165
01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:23,280
Speaker 1: lot of fun in that. Um yes, Charles Haley of course,

1166
01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:26,360
Speaker 1: you know the one that got away from the four unitors.

1167
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:28,680
Speaker 1: So it was it was a fun theme, but just yeah,

1168
01:00:28,760 --> 01:00:33,880
Speaker 1: a little chaotic. What is Jerry Rice's necklace like in person?

1169
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:44,000
Speaker 1: It's very blinky? Yeahs about five tons? Yeah, but he

1170
01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:47,080
Speaker 1: he holds it up like it's not too crazy, but yeah,

1171
01:00:47,120 --> 01:00:50,640
Speaker 1: he He's definitely a character of that thing is uh

1172
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:54,200
Speaker 1: blinding will say that was he running any routes pregame

1173
01:00:54,240 --> 01:00:56,120
Speaker 1: or catching passes because the last time we were there

1174
01:00:56,200 --> 01:00:58,680
Speaker 1: on Monday, Night Football. He was like out there running routes,

1175
01:00:58,720 --> 01:01:04,120
Speaker 1: catching passes before Unfortunately on that game and the Niners games, Yeah,

1176
01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:06,400
Speaker 1: he wasn't running round. So he does catch a few

1177
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:08,480
Speaker 1: passes from guys. They'll you know, they'll pass the ball

1178
01:01:08,520 --> 01:01:10,120
Speaker 1: to him a little bit. But he was, you know,

1179
01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:13,600
Speaker 1: uh on the field with the wide receivers group, you know,

1180
01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:15,919
Speaker 1: kind of tapping him up and getting them ready for

1181
01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:18,760
Speaker 1: the game during warm up. So and then he's like

1182
01:01:18,840 --> 01:01:20,720
Speaker 1: kind of towards the ends on of the you know,

1183
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:23,640
Speaker 1: the home side during the game. So yeah, I think

1184
01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:27,480
Speaker 1: when um Kittle gave him I think a touchdown ball,

1185
01:01:28,200 --> 01:01:31,240
Speaker 1: uh yeah, with Christian McCaffrey Randon, So he's down by

1186
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:34,040
Speaker 1: that goal post. So he's always a fixture at Niners

1187
01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:37,200
Speaker 1: home games. So great, so great, Jennifer. We thank you

1188
01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:38,400
Speaker 1: so much for your time. We'll get you out of

1189
01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:39,520
Speaker 1: here on this one. How do you how do you

1190
01:01:39,600 --> 01:01:43,240
Speaker 1: think this thing goes Sunday? I think it comes down

1191
01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:45,360
Speaker 1: to the the wire. I think, you know, the guy, Mr

1192
01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:49,360
Speaker 1: Professional Robbie Gold has a huge play in this because

1193
01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:51,120
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be hard for any team to score,

1194
01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:54,120
Speaker 1: so you know, he's got to be on it as usual.

1195
01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:56,280
Speaker 1: And I expect you will be, but I think it's

1196
01:01:56,320 --> 01:01:58,720
Speaker 1: going to be a close one. Yeah, I feel it

1197
01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:00,560
Speaker 1: does feel like it feels like all of them are

1198
01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:02,840
Speaker 1: enjoy these are this is It's fun when you cover

1199
01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:04,800
Speaker 1: games like this and atmosphere is like the one you're

1200
01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:06,480
Speaker 1: gonna have on Sunday. Enjoy it and thank you so

1201
01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:09,520
Speaker 1: much for your time. No problem, thanks to turping me

1202
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Speaker 1: zero eight to serve your spot today. The Panthers announcing

1215
01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:05,760
Speaker 1: today making an official Frank Right as the new head coach.

1216
01:03:06,160 --> 01:03:09,760
Speaker 1: The team did announce that, uh, Steve Wilkes was in

1217
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:11,880
Speaker 1: on that until the very ended six and six is

1218
01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:15,720
Speaker 1: an interim. Uh did a nice job there they got. Um.

1219
01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:17,640
Speaker 1: It's interesting on Right because I've seen people say, why

1220
01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:19,200
Speaker 1: is he it was a failure. He's you know, he's

1221
01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:21,280
Speaker 1: getting such a quick chance all over again after just

1222
01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:23,880
Speaker 1: being fired in Indie. I mean, honestly, look what he

1223
01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:27,600
Speaker 1: went through an Indie well liked, well respected. There's a

1224
01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:31,120
Speaker 1: lot going on. I mean that that's Rivers wentz Ryan

1225
01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:38,040
Speaker 1: that ownership and wasn't he hired for Luck? Wasn't he

1226
01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:40,439
Speaker 1: didn't he wasn't it Bursette first? I believe he got

1227
01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:45,920
Speaker 1: the job after McDaniels. I believe you're right. McDaniels was

1228
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:47,880
Speaker 1: going to do it and then backed out and then

1229
01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:51,000
Speaker 1: and then it became Frank Right. But his first year,

1230
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:57,720
Speaker 1: will say he was choice number two. I do love

1231
01:03:57,720 --> 01:04:00,720
Speaker 1: that awesome powers number two listening. I know he would

1232
01:04:00,720 --> 01:04:03,960
Speaker 1: have loved that. He would he loved it. Um, but

1233
01:04:04,120 --> 01:04:07,320
Speaker 1: that he was hired. That that was the Andrew Luck

1234
01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:10,120
Speaker 1: year and then Luck retired in camp when we were there,

1235
01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:13,800
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, it's pre set. Rivers

1236
01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:17,680
Speaker 1: wentz like that's who he was, what he was dealing

1237
01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:20,360
Speaker 1: with there, So we'll see that job. It's just a

1238
01:04:20,360 --> 01:04:22,720
Speaker 1: meant can they figure out something at quarterback? I mean,

1239
01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:24,920
Speaker 1: they're just gonna have to figure that out. Rams have

1240
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:27,360
Speaker 1: hired former Jets offensive Cordinay michaela Floor to be their

1241
01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:29,080
Speaker 1: new O. C makes all the sense of the world

1242
01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:31,680
Speaker 1: was there previously. So that's a wind he's and that

1243
01:04:31,680 --> 01:04:34,400
Speaker 1: that's that's the tree. That's right, that's all in the

1244
01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:38,080
Speaker 1: same Shanahan. Well that was what made me. That's that

1245
01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:40,240
Speaker 1: was my theory on why none of these positions are

1246
01:04:40,240 --> 01:04:42,160
Speaker 1: being hired. There's no but there's no more fruit on

1247
01:04:42,200 --> 01:04:46,000
Speaker 1: that tree. The McVeigh Shanahan trees are out of fruit.

1248
01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:49,360
Speaker 1: They've all been hired. So and Demiko is going to

1249
01:04:49,440 --> 01:04:51,400
Speaker 1: get a job. It sounds like it's gonna be in Houston,

1250
01:04:51,600 --> 01:04:53,600
Speaker 1: but it could be Denver. So so my guess is

1251
01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:56,520
Speaker 1: that that had to be some type of a recommendation

1252
01:04:57,240 --> 01:05:02,480
Speaker 1: from Shanahan or the same system, same tree, uh, because

1253
01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:04,240
Speaker 1: they all know each other though, like the Fleur would

1254
01:05:04,280 --> 01:05:05,760
Speaker 1: know McVeigh I mean that goes all the way back

1255
01:05:05,800 --> 01:05:08,920
Speaker 1: to Washington, right, Yeah. But McVeigh on that staff with

1256
01:05:09,040 --> 01:05:11,440
Speaker 1: Kyle and his dad. Yeah, so McVeigh was there, so

1257
01:05:11,480 --> 01:05:13,480
Speaker 1: he would know Kyle through there. But Michael la Fleur's

1258
01:05:13,480 --> 01:05:15,840
Speaker 1: first job was actually here in two thousand and fourteen

1259
01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:18,680
Speaker 1: with Kyle, with Kyle's an offensive intern. Then he went

1260
01:05:18,720 --> 01:05:20,720
Speaker 1: with Kyle to the Falcons. Uh, and then he went

1261
01:05:20,760 --> 01:05:23,200
Speaker 1: with Kyle to the Niners, and then he went to

1262
01:05:23,200 --> 01:05:24,960
Speaker 1: the Jets as the OC for two seasons and now

1263
01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:27,080
Speaker 1: he's the RAMSOC. But I mean he's it's all the same,

1264
01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:31,120
Speaker 1: the same world. Cowboys defense scoenaer Dan Quinn has decided

1265
01:05:31,200 --> 01:05:34,000
Speaker 1: up potential head coaching jobs to remain in Dallas. Head

1266
01:05:34,000 --> 01:05:37,480
Speaker 1: coach Mike McCarthy confirmed yesterday he fired they fired six

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Speaker 1: assistance in Dallas, but they're keeping both coordinators or they

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01:05:41,160 --> 01:05:44,920
Speaker 1: keeping both coaches and coordinator because uh, what's his name?

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01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:47,840
Speaker 1: Kelly Moore interviewed in Carolina, but he's staying as offensive

1270
01:05:47,840 --> 01:05:50,440
Speaker 1: coordinator and Quinn saying his defensive coordinate. But they ever

1271
01:05:50,520 --> 01:05:54,280
Speaker 1: had six assistants in Dallas who well, I don't know

1272
01:05:54,320 --> 01:05:56,520
Speaker 1: the whole staff, but there were six of them. I know.

1273
01:05:56,560 --> 01:05:58,960
Speaker 1: One of the guys they fired was lehon Lett Wow

1274
01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:02,120
Speaker 1: offense sive line coach Joe Philbin, who I believe he's

1275
01:06:02,440 --> 01:06:06,400
Speaker 1: forever and was a head coach right Miami and with

1276
01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:10,439
Speaker 1: Green Bay. He was. Yeah, I feel like was he

1277
01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:15,240
Speaker 1: here for a hot second too? Uh that I don't know.

1278
01:06:15,600 --> 01:06:19,320
Speaker 1: I I definitely think he was because I remember him

1279
01:06:19,320 --> 01:06:23,240
Speaker 1: talking about like splitting practices up or maybe they were.

1280
01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:27,200
Speaker 1: He was coaching a team that was here. So he

1281
01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:31,840
Speaker 1: was the Packers assistant offensive line tight end, assistant offensive

1282
01:06:31,880 --> 01:06:37,480
Speaker 1: line offensive coordinator Dolphins for three years, head coach Indianapolis

1283
01:06:37,480 --> 01:06:40,040
Speaker 1: sistant offensive line. Maybe he was like a consultant here

1284
01:06:40,080 --> 01:06:42,840
Speaker 1: one year or something. I don't know. I didn't say anything,

1285
01:06:42,880 --> 01:06:44,760
Speaker 1: but he was around. I remember, I remember that guy.

1286
01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:46,640
Speaker 1: Maybe he was here with we did a joint practice

1287
01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:49,320
Speaker 1: with the Colts and he was here. But I've definitely

1288
01:06:49,360 --> 01:06:53,320
Speaker 1: been around anyway. So yeah, they gotver to six assistants somehow,

1289
01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:59,360
Speaker 1: Quinn's but Quinn stays and Kellen Moore stays, and McCarthy stays.

1290
01:06:59,400 --> 01:07:01,320
Speaker 1: But they got rid of a bunch of assistance. But

1291
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:04,160
Speaker 1: like which is rare. Usually there's a coordinator, you know,

1292
01:07:04,720 --> 01:07:07,240
Speaker 1: So they got rid of old line coach Joe Philbin

1293
01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:12,080
Speaker 1: running that coach. Skip, that guy has been there forever,

1294
01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:16,280
Speaker 1: Skip Pete. Do you say, Skip Pete? That guy has

1295
01:07:16,280 --> 01:07:22,880
Speaker 1: been there for ever? And I would say Tony Pollard

1296
01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:28,520
Speaker 1: was darn good. Yeah so. And by the way, if

1297
01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:32,840
Speaker 1: you're Dan Quinn, might make sense. None of these jobs

1298
01:07:32,840 --> 01:07:35,200
Speaker 1: are out of this world now. And if you says

1299
01:07:35,200 --> 01:07:39,400
Speaker 1: there is a good chance he can be an interview guy. Yeah. Absolutely.

1300
01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:42,880
Speaker 1: Steeler's president Art Rooney the Second wouldn't comment on about

1301
01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:45,120
Speaker 1: the possibility of extension Mike Tomlin. During the end of

1302
01:07:45,120 --> 01:07:47,360
Speaker 1: the year press conference with media members, he said quote,

1303
01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:51,280
Speaker 1: I don't like to speculate on coaches contract. We'll see. Um.

1304
01:07:51,320 --> 01:07:53,320
Speaker 1: I can see no scenario where he does not continue

1305
01:07:53,320 --> 01:07:56,960
Speaker 1: as the head coach of the Pittsburgh Seelors. I guess

1306
01:07:56,960 --> 01:07:59,920
Speaker 1: he was hesitant when someone asked him about a contract

1307
01:07:59,800 --> 01:08:02,320
Speaker 1: that stension and well, the will see is new for them.

1308
01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:05,080
Speaker 1: Usually they do you know the will see part is

1309
01:08:05,080 --> 01:08:09,440
Speaker 1: is there? Um? Huh yeah, Skipp Pete. By the way,

1310
01:08:09,480 --> 01:08:11,439
Speaker 1: he's been a running back coach in the NFL since

1311
01:08:13,720 --> 01:08:18,960
Speaker 1: that's a long time Raiders thousand and six, Cowboys first

1312
01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:23,519
Speaker 1: st in two thousand twelve, Bears fourteen, RAM sixteen to nineteen.

1313
01:08:23,560 --> 01:08:26,439
Speaker 1: So I'd have been like Pete Todd Gurley. Yeah. And

1314
01:08:26,479 --> 01:08:30,439
Speaker 1: then back to the Cowboys twenty two. The reason why

1315
01:08:30,479 --> 01:08:33,120
Speaker 1: they got rid of who they got rid of, Yeah,

1316
01:08:33,160 --> 01:08:35,080
Speaker 1: I guess they just felt like they had to fire somebody,

1317
01:08:35,160 --> 01:08:36,479
Speaker 1: but they didn't want to fire the head. Then they

1318
01:08:36,479 --> 01:08:38,000
Speaker 1: don't want to fire the court. He went to the

1319
01:08:38,040 --> 01:08:41,160
Speaker 1: second round of the playoffs. I had a chance to

1320
01:08:41,160 --> 01:08:44,799
Speaker 1: win on the road. Yeah. Florio's saying, could the conference

1321
01:08:44,840 --> 01:08:50,040
Speaker 1: championships became a Sunday Monday event? No, stupid, Well, whether

1322
01:08:50,160 --> 01:08:52,200
Speaker 1: or not you want it to be, it's just like,

1323
01:08:52,240 --> 01:08:53,840
Speaker 1: and I'll tell you what else you should do. If

1324
01:08:53,840 --> 01:08:56,439
Speaker 1: you truly wanted to do what's right here, it should

1325
01:08:56,479 --> 01:09:01,559
Speaker 1: be Championship Saturday. Play these on Saturday. One Saturday one Sunday.

1326
01:09:01,680 --> 01:09:06,080
Speaker 1: Why why make a stack into seven hours of sustained football.

1327
01:09:06,160 --> 01:09:08,320
Speaker 1: Here's what you gotta do. Want to do one Saturday

1328
01:09:08,400 --> 01:09:10,040
Speaker 1: night at eight and do the other one Sunday at

1329
01:09:10,080 --> 01:09:13,000
Speaker 1: six thirty. Problem solved, Then they can both nights are

1330
01:09:13,000 --> 01:09:15,320
Speaker 1: accounted for. Come on, how about this. Let me throw

1331
01:09:15,360 --> 01:09:17,200
Speaker 1: this at you. Super Bowl should be on Saturday. By

1332
01:09:17,200 --> 01:09:20,200
Speaker 1: the way, if we're Monday should be a holiday, one

1333
01:09:20,240 --> 01:09:22,000
Speaker 1: of the two you sorted out. However you want to

1334
01:09:22,000 --> 01:09:25,760
Speaker 1: do it, fine, w W is doing that. By the way,

1335
01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:29,760
Speaker 1: the Royal Rumbolf, for example, is this Saturday. Yeah, it's

1336
01:09:29,760 --> 01:09:34,439
Speaker 1: not Sunday anymore. Good Saturday. Um So here was my idea.

1337
01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:37,000
Speaker 1: Now the one wrench that's thrown into it is in

1338
01:09:37,400 --> 01:09:40,000
Speaker 1: Super wild Card. Now you have a Monday game, but

1339
01:09:40,640 --> 01:09:44,040
Speaker 1: Saturday should be the day of the NFC. Sunday should

1340
01:09:44,040 --> 01:09:45,800
Speaker 1: be the day of the NFC a f C because

1341
01:09:45,800 --> 01:09:47,640
Speaker 1: that's the only way that you could keep it so

1342
01:09:47,720 --> 01:09:49,880
Speaker 1: that every day has the same press. So the divisional round,

1343
01:09:50,080 --> 01:09:53,479
Speaker 1: every divisional round game, NFC Saturday, and then you get

1344
01:09:53,520 --> 01:09:55,360
Speaker 1: to see make who's gonna be the championship game? Then

1345
01:09:55,400 --> 01:09:56,760
Speaker 1: Sunday saying for the a f C, and then you

1346
01:09:56,760 --> 01:09:59,360
Speaker 1: go Saturday Sunday. The only as I said, the only

1347
01:09:59,360 --> 01:10:02,120
Speaker 1: hard part would be how you deal with that extra

1348
01:10:02,200 --> 01:10:04,920
Speaker 1: game on Monday night, because you wouldn't have go from

1349
01:10:04,920 --> 01:10:06,519
Speaker 1: a Monday to a Saturday. You couldn't do that. So

1350
01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:08,960
Speaker 1: they have to be an every time there's gonna be

1351
01:10:09,040 --> 01:10:11,040
Speaker 1: one a f C team. This disadvantage. You're gonna want

1352
01:10:11,040 --> 01:10:12,760
Speaker 1: to Okay, but you're gonna be what you're gonna want

1353
01:10:12,760 --> 01:10:16,120
Speaker 1: to be in. I mean that's that's from a TV perspective,

1354
01:10:16,120 --> 01:10:17,519
Speaker 1: that's always going to be a good match. I mean

1355
01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:20,600
Speaker 1: it's it's gonna be a great game. So yeah, I

1356
01:10:20,680 --> 01:10:23,320
Speaker 1: just that's it. Don't go to Monday, No, No one

1357
01:10:23,360 --> 01:10:26,400
Speaker 1: needsolutely not nobody needs to go to Saturday night. I

1358
01:10:26,439 --> 01:10:30,160
Speaker 1: don't know what the infatuation is. College football is determined

1359
01:10:30,200 --> 01:10:33,320
Speaker 1: to play the national So that's at a necessity because

1360
01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:36,120
Speaker 1: college football does not want to go up against the NFL.

1361
01:10:36,640 --> 01:10:39,080
Speaker 1: So that time of year, they go Monday night because

1362
01:10:39,080 --> 01:10:41,599
Speaker 1: the NFL stays away from Monday night on Friday night.

1363
01:10:41,640 --> 01:10:43,280
Speaker 1: That's the only way. Well that's dead, you know that.

1364
01:10:43,360 --> 01:10:45,320
Speaker 1: Come on ratings standpoint, you can't do you can't do that.

1365
01:10:45,640 --> 01:10:48,799
Speaker 1: But you could do if if they could do Saturday

1366
01:10:48,840 --> 01:10:51,160
Speaker 1: Championship on a Friday on the New Year's Eve. Yeah, yeah,

1367
01:10:51,160 --> 01:10:54,240
Speaker 1: you can't do that. No, no, no, it Trestle when

1368
01:10:54,280 --> 01:10:58,400
Speaker 1: you beat Miami was on a Friday night. Oh I

1369
01:10:58,479 --> 01:11:06,960
Speaker 1: defiled myself, don't I'm aware? Springfield, Illinois, man, really yeah

1370
01:11:07,000 --> 01:11:11,280
Speaker 1: it was on a Friday night. Yeah, I don't recall

1371
01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:13,160
Speaker 1: the day. I remember watching it. Vividly. I was in

1372
01:11:13,160 --> 01:11:15,439
Speaker 1: Florida at the time, but I do remember watching vividly,

1373
01:11:15,439 --> 01:11:17,960
Speaker 1: but I don't recall the day of the week uh

1374
01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:22,160
Speaker 1: that it was. Um this Uh this is a happy

1375
01:11:22,200 --> 01:11:26,160
Speaker 1: trails postumist, happy happy trails. Legendary college basketball analyst Billy

1376
01:11:26,240 --> 01:11:30,040
Speaker 1: Packer died yesterday at two UM So just a couple

1377
01:11:30,080 --> 01:11:33,680
Speaker 1: of moments on this fellas when for me growing up,

1378
01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:39,440
Speaker 1: college basketball was the most important thing that I consumed. Agreed,

1379
01:11:39,800 --> 01:11:42,439
Speaker 1: it wasn't it's odd like people think it's crazy now

1380
01:11:42,439 --> 01:11:44,200
Speaker 1: you say it now, But it was not the NFL.

1381
01:11:44,560 --> 01:11:47,400
Speaker 1: It was not even the NBA. It was it was

1382
01:11:47,479 --> 01:11:51,200
Speaker 1: college basket. College hoops, like college hoops from the the

1383
01:11:51,280 --> 01:11:53,879
Speaker 1: middle of the eighties through the middle of the nineties

1384
01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:57,759
Speaker 1: was extraordinary, the Golden age. It was the Golden age.

1385
01:11:57,840 --> 01:12:00,240
Speaker 1: It was a those teams would smoke these teams like

1386
01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:03,960
Speaker 1: smoke the best player Shaquill O'Neil played three years at

1387
01:12:04,040 --> 01:12:06,360
Speaker 1: l s U. So everything that we have in the

1388
01:12:06,439 --> 01:12:12,360
Speaker 1: NFL with the college NFL marriage this this absolute ultimate

1389
01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:16,680
Speaker 1: uh minor league that sends you ready made stars. You

1390
01:12:16,800 --> 01:12:21,080
Speaker 1: had in basketball, you had ready made stars walking onto

1391
01:12:21,240 --> 01:12:24,240
Speaker 1: NBA teams, ready to be dudes who were known, who

1392
01:12:24,280 --> 01:12:26,679
Speaker 1: were who were grown men quite frankly, in the case

1393
01:12:26,680 --> 01:12:29,960
Speaker 1: of Larry Johnson, shaquillaineil Alonzo Morning and others, um and

1394
01:12:30,040 --> 01:12:34,160
Speaker 1: so and Carter Oh for years, Ron Mercer Antoine was

1395
01:12:35,240 --> 01:12:37,719
Speaker 1: they were three year guys, because we're all three year guys.

1396
01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:41,000
Speaker 1: Grant Hill played four years at Duke, Yes, four years

1397
01:12:41,320 --> 01:12:47,400
Speaker 1: like that. This was the norm, and so Packer was

1398
01:12:47,479 --> 01:12:50,280
Speaker 1: the voice of it. And as a kid, I couldn't

1399
01:12:50,320 --> 01:12:54,439
Speaker 1: stand him because he was pretty arrogant and pretty glass

1400
01:12:54,479 --> 01:12:59,240
Speaker 1: is half empty and very critical. His style was very critical,

1401
01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:03,080
Speaker 1: um and and it was something that as a kid

1402
01:13:03,080 --> 01:13:07,240
Speaker 1: bugged me. But as I got older, I grew to appreciate.

1403
01:13:07,800 --> 01:13:11,040
Speaker 1: And he also, in addition to his CBS duties, he

1404
01:13:11,080 --> 01:13:13,240
Speaker 1: would do if I don't even know if you guys,

1405
01:13:13,280 --> 01:13:15,120
Speaker 1: if this was available to you guys here, but there was.

1406
01:13:15,479 --> 01:13:17,400
Speaker 1: The a c C Tournament used to be on a

1407
01:13:17,439 --> 01:13:21,040
Speaker 1: network called Jefferson Pilot. Okay, so in the South it

1408
01:13:21,080 --> 01:13:23,479
Speaker 1: was on this network called Jefferson Pilot, and Jefferson Pilot

1409
01:13:23,680 --> 01:13:28,599
Speaker 1: broadcast a CC regular season games during the year. Billy

1410
01:13:28,640 --> 01:13:32,920
Speaker 1: Packer would call those games. So while ESPN's feed of

1411
01:13:32,960 --> 01:13:35,679
Speaker 1: the a c C the two networks did it. ESPN

1412
01:13:35,680 --> 01:13:38,120
Speaker 1: did the feed and that was done by like Dicky

1413
01:13:38,200 --> 01:13:41,360
Speaker 1: V and whoever he was, Mike Patrick, probably Mike Patrick,

1414
01:13:41,439 --> 01:13:45,680
Speaker 1: Dan Shulman, Yeah, those guys. A c C feed was

1415
01:13:45,720 --> 01:13:48,920
Speaker 1: Billy Packer and that was on Jefferson Pilot and he

1416
01:13:49,000 --> 01:13:51,240
Speaker 1: called the a CEC tournament forever. And I got to

1417
01:13:51,280 --> 01:13:52,720
Speaker 1: meet him a couple of times when I was down

1418
01:13:52,760 --> 01:13:55,000
Speaker 1: there and around a CEC tournaments and stuff, and he

1419
01:13:55,080 --> 01:13:58,200
Speaker 1: was great, really was great. And his son Mark, who

1420
01:13:58,240 --> 01:14:01,439
Speaker 1: does radio down in the South, awesome guy. Um he

1421
01:14:01,479 --> 01:14:04,080
Speaker 1: was as he was a you do every final four,

1422
01:14:04,120 --> 01:14:07,280
Speaker 1: You're involved with every final four from nineteen two thousand eight.

1423
01:14:07,720 --> 01:14:14,120
Speaker 1: H that's legacy. Oh yeah, absolutely iconic and and it's yes,

1424
01:14:14,320 --> 01:14:16,960
Speaker 1: very much the formative. And it's funny. You had two billies, right,

1425
01:14:17,000 --> 01:14:20,960
Speaker 1: he had Packer and Raftere were but rafter he was

1426
01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:22,800
Speaker 1: CBS two and he would but he would always have

1427
01:14:22,840 --> 01:14:25,439
Speaker 1: to bow out at the elite eight because Final four

1428
01:14:25,520 --> 01:14:28,400
Speaker 1: was Jim Nanson. Billy. Yeah, that was it. I mean,

1429
01:14:28,680 --> 01:14:31,000
Speaker 1: Shan McManus said it well. He was synonymous with college

1430
01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:33,160
Speaker 1: basketball for more than three decades and set the standard

1431
01:14:33,160 --> 01:14:34,760
Speaker 1: of excellence as the voice of the n C double

1432
01:14:34,800 --> 01:14:37,479
Speaker 1: A men's basketball tournament. Yeah, no doubt. Nance was on

1433
01:14:37,560 --> 01:14:42,360
Speaker 1: Good Morning America and talking about it almost broke down

1434
01:14:42,400 --> 01:14:46,439
Speaker 1: a couple of times. Yeah, it hit him pretty hard.

1435
01:14:46,479 --> 01:14:48,760
Speaker 1: You could you could tell, well he was you know,

1436
01:14:48,920 --> 01:14:51,639
Speaker 1: he was not without controversy. And he was pushed out

1437
01:14:51,640 --> 01:14:55,719
Speaker 1: in oh eight um, which he passed at eighty two,

1438
01:14:55,760 --> 01:14:58,559
Speaker 1: so you know he was He was pushed out still

1439
01:14:58,640 --> 01:15:01,960
Speaker 1: at what he was sixty seven, So I mean, that's

1440
01:15:01,960 --> 01:15:04,000
Speaker 1: still an age where he could have kept doing it,

1441
01:15:04,280 --> 01:15:06,640
Speaker 1: you know, but they they did push him out. And

1442
01:15:06,680 --> 01:15:08,280
Speaker 1: then you know, one of the all time great guys,

1443
01:15:08,280 --> 01:15:10,720
Speaker 1: Clarke Kellogg, stepped into that seat and crushed it. And

1444
01:15:10,760 --> 01:15:13,600
Speaker 1: now he's really instrumental in the halftime stuff and the

1445
01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:16,160
Speaker 1: pregame stuff that they do. But it's it's now Raftree

1446
01:15:16,280 --> 01:15:19,240
Speaker 1: and Grant Hill and Nance, and this is Nance's last

1447
01:15:19,240 --> 01:15:22,920
Speaker 1: one to share. Is Nance's last one. He's done after

1448
01:15:23,000 --> 01:15:26,400
Speaker 1: this year. But that it made me, It made me

1449
01:15:26,439 --> 01:15:30,479
Speaker 1: think about what that sport was. And I am a

1450
01:15:30,560 --> 01:15:33,559
Speaker 1: little fearful that college football could follow a similar path

1451
01:15:33,680 --> 01:15:35,519
Speaker 1: with where things are going right now in college football.

1452
01:15:35,560 --> 01:15:37,439
Speaker 1: They just gotta keep the kids there, that's it. And

1453
01:15:37,479 --> 01:15:39,439
Speaker 1: I'm away. I was always surprised that that's a big

1454
01:15:39,479 --> 01:15:40,760
Speaker 1: part of it. But I mean, there's gonna be a

1455
01:15:40,760 --> 01:15:44,480
Speaker 1: lot of transient nature and college football coming with the

1456
01:15:44,479 --> 01:15:46,639
Speaker 1: free transfer and all of that. But I was always

1457
01:15:46,640 --> 01:15:49,479
Speaker 1: surprised that the NBA didn't look at what the NFL

1458
01:15:49,560 --> 01:15:52,760
Speaker 1: did and copy it and do the three and out thing.

1459
01:15:52,840 --> 01:15:54,920
Speaker 1: I know that the players didn't want it because you know,

1460
01:15:54,960 --> 01:15:56,880
Speaker 1: you want to get on that first contract and make

1461
01:15:56,920 --> 01:15:59,400
Speaker 1: that money as fast as you can to prolong the career,

1462
01:15:59,640 --> 01:16:01,360
Speaker 1: and you want to work for free, which is you

1463
01:16:01,400 --> 01:16:04,040
Speaker 1: know what college is. But holy cow. From the from

1464
01:16:04,080 --> 01:16:07,280
Speaker 1: the standpoint of the league, the NFL holding firm on

1465
01:16:07,439 --> 01:16:11,120
Speaker 1: three years is one of the most important decisions this

1466
01:16:11,200 --> 01:16:15,400
Speaker 1: league ever made. You draft. When you think about when

1467
01:16:15,439 --> 01:16:19,479
Speaker 1: we drafted Johnny or Baker, like they were stars upon drafting.

1468
01:16:19,760 --> 01:16:22,320
Speaker 1: You don't have to grow them into stars. They already were.

1469
01:16:23,080 --> 01:16:24,960
Speaker 1: It's a big part of the success of this league

1470
01:16:25,000 --> 01:16:29,120
Speaker 1: is that you're drafting known commodities. So it's uh, it's

1471
01:16:29,120 --> 01:16:30,720
Speaker 1: it's amazing what's happened to that sport. But he was

1472
01:16:31,000 --> 01:16:32,519
Speaker 1: for me as a kid, he was he was one

1473
01:16:32,520 --> 01:16:35,160
Speaker 1: of the voices that were synonymous with something that meant

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Speaker 1: for dogs. Time for a little over under game, gentlemen,

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Speaker 1: as we head into championship weekend, I think it is

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01:17:24,120 --> 01:17:29,519
Speaker 1: safe to say we've crowned a champion here. That brings

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01:17:29,520 --> 01:17:32,599
Speaker 1: me great joy to hear you say that. Uh, it's

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01:17:32,640 --> 01:17:37,120
Speaker 1: not clothe it's it's not it's not locked, but it

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01:17:37,240 --> 01:17:40,599
Speaker 1: it would be difficult at this point. Where are we? Uh?

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01:17:40,680 --> 01:17:44,400
Speaker 1: Last week, the half finally got off the schnide after

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01:17:44,439 --> 01:17:48,080
Speaker 1: like a one in four team stretch. Half went three

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01:17:48,080 --> 01:17:52,000
Speaker 1: and two. His overall record is forty six and forty nine.

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01:17:53,160 --> 01:17:56,400
Speaker 1: Not great for the half. Give a little bit of

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01:17:56,439 --> 01:17:59,320
Speaker 1: down week for Gibbe. Gibbe went one in four for

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01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:02,519
Speaker 1: an over all record of forty eight and forty seven,

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01:18:02,720 --> 01:18:08,440
Speaker 1: and Zuga two and three last week, but and overall

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01:18:08,479 --> 01:18:11,960
Speaker 1: of fifty two and forty three, so a four game

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01:18:12,080 --> 01:18:16,920
Speaker 1: lead over GiB A heading into the last trying hard

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01:18:16,960 --> 01:18:18,719
Speaker 1: because I only have a two game lead on half.

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01:18:19,240 --> 01:18:21,559
Speaker 1: It's just a matter of I always had. In fact,

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01:18:21,720 --> 01:18:24,160
Speaker 1: you remember there was a clothing maker called No Fear.

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01:18:25,040 --> 01:18:26,759
Speaker 1: There was a shirt that I had that said second

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01:18:26,800 --> 01:18:30,559
Speaker 1: places the first loser. That's right, So forget the huff,

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01:18:30,600 --> 01:18:32,840
Speaker 1: GiB It doesn't matter if you're second or third, if

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01:18:32,840 --> 01:18:35,120
Speaker 1: you ain't your last. This allows me to go put

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01:18:35,160 --> 01:18:37,320
Speaker 1: post it notes on his Hall of Fame bus down

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01:18:37,400 --> 01:18:40,080
Speaker 1: and campon. Do you bet you get there, you get

1507
01:18:40,120 --> 01:18:42,280
Speaker 1: arrested me? And did you guys see the USFL is

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01:18:42,320 --> 01:18:44,720
Speaker 1: gonna play games in Canton. The Pittsburgh team and the

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01:18:44,800 --> 01:18:48,000
Speaker 1: Jersey team are playing in Canton, which, yeah, the usfls

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01:18:48,080 --> 01:18:54,759
Speaker 1: they're going four markets like Birmingham, Memphis, Canton, and Detroit,

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01:18:55,400 --> 01:18:58,599
Speaker 1: two teams in each and the Canton location, like why

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01:18:58,600 --> 01:19:01,440
Speaker 1: wouldn't just make him the in Ohio team? So Pittsburgh

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01:19:01,439 --> 01:19:05,640
Speaker 1: and New Jersey you're playing at a Canton. No. No,

1514
01:19:05,720 --> 01:19:08,080
Speaker 1: the whole season is playing at a camp. So then

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01:19:08,080 --> 01:19:10,960
Speaker 1: they're not Pittsburgh. They're not Pittsburgh. They're Canton or the

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01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:14,160
Speaker 1: Ohio or whatever, like just call them the Ohio Malers

1517
01:19:14,240 --> 01:19:17,960
Speaker 1: or whatever. Like why was the Midwest Mallers done solved?

1518
01:19:18,320 --> 01:19:22,840
Speaker 1: You've just done it. That's right, all right, gentlemen, you're

1519
01:19:22,840 --> 01:19:25,160
Speaker 1: ready for championship. And just I want to check out

1520
01:19:25,479 --> 01:19:27,800
Speaker 1: one thing, clear on one thing. So we have ten

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01:19:28,520 --> 01:19:31,679
Speaker 1: we have ten ten left and has a few ways

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01:19:32,800 --> 01:19:37,280
Speaker 1: five hundred for the We're not there yet. I'm just thinking.

1523
01:19:37,320 --> 01:19:39,360
Speaker 1: I'm just I want to be prepared. I'm just the

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01:19:39,400 --> 01:19:44,400
Speaker 1: week before and then this week. Yes, and I'm one up. Yeah,

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01:19:45,160 --> 01:19:48,640
Speaker 1: thanks for doing your free show homework to um. All right,

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01:19:48,640 --> 01:19:50,400
Speaker 1: here we go for any one time for over, Under,

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01:19:50,960 --> 01:19:57,960
Speaker 1: next over Zagura. We start with you passing yardage. We're

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01:19:58,000 --> 01:20:04,880
Speaker 1: looking for passing yardage. Patrick Mahomes plus Brock Purty over under,

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01:20:05,160 --> 01:20:18,880
Speaker 1: Burrow and Hurts, Mahomes and Purty, Burrow and Hurts, give

1530
01:20:18,920 --> 01:20:26,200
Speaker 1: me Burrow and Hurts Under give it, damn you Burrow

1531
01:20:26,200 --> 01:20:30,360
Speaker 1: and Hurts. You've gotta go over. Let the man do

1532
01:20:30,400 --> 01:20:37,559
Speaker 1: whatever time, let him do whatever he wants over by

1533
01:20:37,600 --> 01:20:39,160
Speaker 1: the way, I do think, and we'll get to this

1534
01:20:39,200 --> 01:20:43,240
Speaker 1: in scores. I do feel like if like there's only

1535
01:20:43,280 --> 01:20:46,000
Speaker 1: one way for Kansas City, and that's mahomes to go nuclear,

1536
01:20:47,040 --> 01:20:50,320
Speaker 1: I can't that's not necessarily true in Cincinnati, like they

1537
01:20:50,320 --> 01:20:55,280
Speaker 1: could do it. All right, we're looking for total yardage.

1538
01:20:56,800 --> 01:21:01,559
Speaker 1: Give a Christian McCaffrey plus Deebo Sam all over under

1539
01:21:02,840 --> 01:21:09,160
Speaker 1: the Philly trio of Sanders, Goddard and Brown. I'm taking

1540
01:21:09,160 --> 01:21:12,000
Speaker 1: Philly just because Homer Boy is gonna take the forty Niners.

1541
01:21:12,360 --> 01:21:17,000
Speaker 1: Under h I'm gonna go same. Same. Of course, you

1542
01:21:17,040 --> 01:21:21,200
Speaker 1: are two three people three for two, and it's it

1543
01:21:21,360 --> 01:21:25,599
Speaker 1: feels likely to me that yeah, that feels pretty good

1544
01:21:25,600 --> 01:21:32,440
Speaker 1: to me. All right, Next over under Zigura receiving yardage

1545
01:21:33,320 --> 01:21:40,000
Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey, Jamaar Chase just straight up straight receiving yardage

1546
01:21:40,120 --> 01:21:47,080
Speaker 1: straight up Kelsey Over on Kelsey, give I'll go Chase

1547
01:21:47,080 --> 01:21:56,400
Speaker 1: on this one under. Next over over under sacks, interceptions

1548
01:21:56,400 --> 01:21:59,640
Speaker 1: and fumbles. Right, A lot of you went on this

1549
01:22:00,040 --> 01:22:04,320
Speaker 1: as an l A f C over or under NFC

1550
01:22:05,840 --> 01:22:13,120
Speaker 1: A f C versus NFC. I take the NFC same

1551
01:22:13,479 --> 01:22:17,679
Speaker 1: under That's what I when the first opportunity. You shouldn't.

1552
01:22:17,680 --> 01:22:19,760
Speaker 1: The first one is when you would have done it anyway.

1553
01:22:20,720 --> 01:22:26,960
Speaker 1: Next over under NFC points over under a f C

1554
01:22:27,200 --> 01:22:43,439
Speaker 1: total points score under. He agrees to justify it in

1555
01:22:43,479 --> 01:22:46,599
Speaker 1: my head that I can go The Eagles and Niners

1556
01:22:46,680 --> 01:22:53,680
Speaker 1: could easily play a game at thirty eight. Take the

1557
01:22:53,720 --> 01:22:58,000
Speaker 1: a f C h under as well. God, just one

1558
01:22:58,040 --> 01:23:03,720
Speaker 1: difference between you between you, all right, you gotta you'd

1559
01:23:03,760 --> 01:23:06,280
Speaker 1: have to the one difference this week you have to

1560
01:23:06,360 --> 01:23:09,360
Speaker 1: get and then you gotta sweep him next week. Were

1561
01:23:09,360 --> 01:23:13,080
Speaker 1: two weeks in the Super Bowler. All right, very good.

1562
01:23:13,479 --> 01:23:16,160
Speaker 1: If Kelsey Winsad's good night Irene, that's it, that's it,

1563
01:23:16,360 --> 01:23:20,559
Speaker 1: all right. Time for your I would choose the same

1564
01:23:20,600 --> 01:23:24,000
Speaker 1: because I understand strategy which you failed to last year.

1565
01:23:24,320 --> 01:23:26,439
Speaker 1: I would just choose the same as you on your

1566
01:23:26,520 --> 01:23:28,360
Speaker 1: two that you go first and then you're set, and

1567
01:23:28,400 --> 01:23:31,880
Speaker 1: then I'm set. Time for your time for your scores

1568
01:23:31,920 --> 01:23:33,760
Speaker 1: on the championship weekend coming up next you listen to

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01:23:33,800 --> 01:23:35,800
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily brought you by Bally Bet, coming suon

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Speaker 1: ESPN Cleveland. Ahi, welcome to to Clean Browns Daily, brought

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01:23:59,280 --> 01:24:04,000
Speaker 1: ESPN Cleveland. Time for a championship weekend edition of the scores. Alright,

1575
01:24:04,040 --> 01:24:06,040
Speaker 1: so obviously I wasn't on the scores last week. So

1576
01:24:06,080 --> 01:24:10,320
Speaker 1: in the divisional round, in the divisional I mean, in

1577
01:24:10,320 --> 01:24:12,960
Speaker 1: the wild card round, we both went three and three.

1578
01:24:13,880 --> 01:24:16,439
Speaker 1: Last week. You went two and two. I went three

1579
01:24:16,479 --> 01:24:19,080
Speaker 1: and one, with the my lone loss being the crud

1580
01:24:19,200 --> 01:24:22,320
Speaker 1: g men. So we sit at a combined ninety games

1581
01:24:22,320 --> 01:24:26,479
Speaker 1: over five hundred. Still better about that, Jacksonville. That would

1582
01:24:26,479 --> 01:24:30,439
Speaker 1: be the difference between you being over and me being

1583
01:24:31,240 --> 01:24:34,240
Speaker 1: or vice versa or inverted or inverted. So here we are.

1584
01:24:34,640 --> 01:24:38,160
Speaker 1: But I mean, there's a reason we get these cities

1585
01:24:38,200 --> 01:24:41,800
Speaker 1: stunning accomplishments year after year. Why not we should be

1586
01:24:41,800 --> 01:24:44,760
Speaker 1: in an incredible record of gamesman chip out of us.

1587
01:24:44,840 --> 01:24:47,640
Speaker 1: That's right, You're welcome, and we love It's because we

1588
01:24:47,680 --> 01:24:52,320
Speaker 1: love the people. The people. There's no us. We love you.

1589
01:24:54,080 --> 01:24:58,360
Speaker 1: All right. The Championship Sunday we go give three o'clock kick.

1590
01:24:59,400 --> 01:25:02,840
Speaker 1: The game is on Fox. Oh maybe I'm excited. It

1591
01:25:02,960 --> 01:25:07,720
Speaker 1: is the San Francisco forty Niners visiting the Philadelphia Eagles.

1592
01:25:08,240 --> 01:25:12,800
Speaker 1: The Eagles hate everybody, including their own parents. Uh. The

1593
01:25:12,920 --> 01:25:20,120
Speaker 1: Eagles taking on San fran Zagora lead us off, nor So,

1594
01:25:20,200 --> 01:25:22,640
Speaker 1: you made some smoked pork thunderlod last right. How was

1595
01:25:22,680 --> 01:25:24,560
Speaker 1: it delicious? Dad? It was really really good. It was

1596
01:25:24,600 --> 01:25:29,799
Speaker 1: real good. You need to order monkey but immediately I'm smoking, Okay,

1597
01:25:30,600 --> 01:25:32,360
Speaker 1: I will. He sent me like five things on how

1598
01:25:32,360 --> 01:25:34,920
Speaker 1: to order some monkey button, which is the pecana or

1599
01:25:34,920 --> 01:25:37,120
Speaker 1: whatever that cut of meat that that's what they call it,

1600
01:25:37,240 --> 01:25:42,840
Speaker 1: monkey button, And he's adamant about gotta get gotta get it.

1601
01:25:43,280 --> 01:25:47,760
Speaker 1: So with that in mind, we're going to smoke their

1602
01:25:47,840 --> 01:25:54,599
Speaker 1: monkey butts. Niners huge, I'm gonna I'll preface this by

1603
01:25:54,600 --> 01:25:58,000
Speaker 1: saying I can make I could sit here right now

1604
01:25:58,160 --> 01:26:02,679
Speaker 1: and make an argument for either team winning either game.

1605
01:26:03,560 --> 01:26:06,880
Speaker 1: Take the points, brother, this, I mean truly like there.

1606
01:26:07,160 --> 01:26:09,040
Speaker 1: I think these could be great. I think all these

1607
01:26:09,080 --> 01:26:12,400
Speaker 1: teams are great. Um. I've been on the Niners train

1608
01:26:12,479 --> 01:26:15,559
Speaker 1: for a while. I've been a nonbeliever of the Eagles

1609
01:26:15,760 --> 01:26:20,479
Speaker 1: for a while. They've made a believer. I got the Gangster,

1610
01:26:20,760 --> 01:26:22,880
Speaker 1: I got the Niners. I got the Niners by a

1611
01:26:22,960 --> 01:26:26,439
Speaker 1: field goal thirty to seven. By the way, how about

1612
01:26:27,160 --> 01:26:30,360
Speaker 1: salpal yesterday? Two things one the thirty five and two

1613
01:26:30,400 --> 01:26:32,680
Speaker 1: blew his mind, blew his mind, stopped the questioning, we

1614
01:26:32,760 --> 01:26:35,000
Speaker 1: already sent me a text thanking me for that. He's

1615
01:26:35,120 --> 01:26:39,960
Speaker 1: using that yeah, well should take yes, yes, and then

1616
01:26:40,000 --> 01:26:41,680
Speaker 1: the yeah, and then he was the one was if

1617
01:26:41,760 --> 01:26:43,559
Speaker 1: that's a great question. I forget what that one was

1618
01:26:43,720 --> 01:26:46,400
Speaker 1: that but then I really like that. Watched it on

1619
01:26:46,439 --> 01:26:50,080
Speaker 1: the stream from home, and then you use my my

1620
01:26:50,200 --> 01:26:52,800
Speaker 1: thing all week about the one true genius. None, none

1621
01:26:52,840 --> 01:26:56,000
Speaker 1: of it hated it. It went over like, uh, you

1622
01:26:56,080 --> 01:27:05,160
Speaker 1: call him somebody a b That's true. There's such an

1623
01:27:05,160 --> 01:27:08,760
Speaker 1: odd thing to say for someone who's employed. That guy

1624
01:27:08,800 --> 01:27:13,000
Speaker 1: you're referencing is a raider at this moment, not in division.

1625
01:27:13,439 --> 01:27:17,360
Speaker 1: If you know, you know kids, is that on a

1626
01:27:17,400 --> 01:27:20,759
Speaker 1: stream or leave it on this show? It was especially

1627
01:27:20,800 --> 01:27:24,200
Speaker 1: it was a special Brown's Lives. Also, it's in my DVR.

1628
01:27:24,240 --> 01:27:28,679
Speaker 1: I knew, I saw you know that six thirty pm

1629
01:27:29,080 --> 01:27:33,000
Speaker 1: kick off on c b S. It is the a

1630
01:27:33,120 --> 01:27:36,799
Speaker 1: f C title game the Bengals, who will be without

1631
01:27:37,040 --> 01:27:42,280
Speaker 1: Jonah Williams and Alex Kappa, the Bengals confirmed earlier today

1632
01:27:42,600 --> 01:27:50,679
Speaker 1: visiting the Kansas City Chiefs and Patrick one legged Mahomes Bishop.

1633
01:27:50,920 --> 01:27:52,920
Speaker 1: So I've been I've been on now. I think he's

1634
01:27:52,960 --> 01:27:54,960
Speaker 1: he's full go I'm gonna be I've been on the

1635
01:27:54,960 --> 01:27:58,479
Speaker 1: Bengals for a long time. Um, I've had him higher.

1636
01:27:58,560 --> 01:28:00,840
Speaker 1: I almost threw Poisel out of the building for having

1637
01:28:00,840 --> 01:28:02,920
Speaker 1: the Dolphins better than them at one point would have

1638
01:28:02,960 --> 01:28:08,240
Speaker 1: been justified to be fair. Um. I can't quote him now,

1639
01:28:08,280 --> 01:28:10,720
Speaker 1: but I will acknowledge that in the deepest recesses of

1640
01:28:10,760 --> 01:28:13,400
Speaker 1: my brain, I think to myself, really, Mahomes is gonna

1641
01:28:13,439 --> 01:28:16,559
Speaker 1: lose four in a row to too, since they're really

1642
01:28:16,560 --> 01:28:21,800
Speaker 1: gonna lose again at Arrowhead. Honestly, Um, Bengals, I think

1643
01:28:21,840 --> 01:28:29,760
Speaker 1: it's a dandy. It's just like being talked about like

1644
01:28:29,840 --> 01:28:33,040
Speaker 1: it's a foregone conclusion, and I don't believe that it

1645
01:28:33,080 --> 01:28:37,080
Speaker 1: is a foregone conclusion. The Chiefs get it done at home.

1646
01:28:37,360 --> 01:28:39,559
Speaker 1: Mahomes is the best player in the league. He's going

1647
01:28:39,600 --> 01:28:42,519
Speaker 1: to prove it in a big moment. If if this game,

1648
01:28:42,520 --> 01:28:44,519
Speaker 1: we're being talked about like the Chiefs were supposed to win.

1649
01:28:44,560 --> 01:28:46,960
Speaker 1: There the favorite, they're the best team. Yeah, yeah, the

1650
01:28:46,960 --> 01:28:48,720
Speaker 1: Bengals have had their number, but you know their luck's

1651
01:28:48,720 --> 01:28:50,559
Speaker 1: gonna run out feels being presented that way. To me,

1652
01:28:50,880 --> 01:28:53,360
Speaker 1: I would be like, Okay, Bengals, fine, it used to

1653
01:28:53,439 --> 01:28:55,439
Speaker 1: be a great game. I would like the Chiefs to

1654
01:28:55,479 --> 01:28:57,320
Speaker 1: wear all red. I would like the Bengals were all white.

1655
01:28:57,360 --> 01:29:01,200
Speaker 1: I think they'd be stunning, stunning looking. Love that white helmet, though,

1656
01:29:01,240 --> 01:29:04,160
Speaker 1: I think that white helmet is just I do like

1657
01:29:04,200 --> 01:29:06,200
Speaker 1: the orange dropping against the white. I like the j

1658
01:29:06,240 --> 01:29:13,040
Speaker 1: exposition of it. But anyway, you've got Kansas citymies to Kelsey,

1659
01:29:13,200 --> 01:29:18,000
Speaker 1: late doubt four stagger back to the Super Bowl. Go

1660
01:29:18,120 --> 01:29:21,719
Speaker 1: the Chiefs run it back. They win. They win every

1661
01:29:21,720 --> 01:29:24,160
Speaker 1: other year, as you make. As as we're making all

1662
01:29:24,200 --> 01:29:26,040
Speaker 1: of this, though, Gibbey and you probably could acknowledge this

1663
01:29:26,120 --> 01:29:29,760
Speaker 1: as well. I bet each one of us, if we

1664
01:29:29,760 --> 01:29:32,479
Speaker 1: were doing this, could have formulated an argument the other way,

1665
01:29:32,560 --> 01:29:34,360
Speaker 1: of course, and it would have been just as convincing

1666
01:29:34,800 --> 01:29:38,479
Speaker 1: they are. That the four teams are so evenly matched

1667
01:29:38,520 --> 01:29:42,560
Speaker 1: with each other, the two teams matched with each other appropriately,

1668
01:29:43,120 --> 01:29:45,800
Speaker 1: there's no I mean, my god, this this it's plus

1669
01:29:45,840 --> 01:29:48,080
Speaker 1: two and a half and plus one. You can't know

1670
01:29:48,120 --> 01:29:52,599
Speaker 1: what's gonna happen. Nobody does either way. No, they could,

1671
01:29:52,640 --> 01:29:55,040
Speaker 1: and they both could be great. I don't see any

1672
01:29:55,040 --> 01:29:57,120
Speaker 1: scenario where either one of these a bad game. I

1673
01:29:57,760 --> 01:30:00,599
Speaker 1: could well in the NFC, I could see if somebody

1674
01:30:00,640 --> 01:30:02,920
Speaker 1: goes or Niners. I think if somebody goes up like

1675
01:30:03,920 --> 01:30:07,200
Speaker 1: seventeen nothing at some point, or up seventeen in the

1676
01:30:07,200 --> 01:30:10,080
Speaker 1: third quarter, it could get better. Hope it's the Niners,

1677
01:30:10,120 --> 01:30:12,560
Speaker 1: because I don't can the Niners play from behind? I

1678
01:30:12,600 --> 01:30:16,439
Speaker 1: don't know in a straight dropback scenario, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: They're probably a little better equipped. But a f C

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Speaker 1: both kuld both could chase if they needed to, and

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Speaker 1: I think the Chiefs defense is one you could definitely

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Speaker 1: chase on, maybe even more so than the Bengals. I

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Speaker 1: think it's great. Enjoy it, kids, enjoy it. I can't wait.

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Speaker 1: The next level is coming up next. Thanks for listening, everybody.

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Speaker 1: We're back to break it all down in the creams crap.

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Speaker 1: You listen to Cleveland's Daily on fifty ESPN Cleveland. You've

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Speaker 1: been listening to Cleveland Browns Daily, a production of the

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