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Speaker 3: Greetings and welcome in hour two of the program. That

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Speaker 3: first hour flu bye, Welcome aboard. We're just getting warmed

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Speaker 3: up for what is a big week here at Fox

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Speaker 3: Sports Radio, as we are just ten days away from

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Speaker 3: the Hall of Fame game Major League Baseball. We're into

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Speaker 3: the second half and the chaos that ensues just ten

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Speaker 3: days away from the trade deadline. So is your team

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Speaker 3: in or out? Mine's thirty games under five hundred and

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Speaker 3: they're now scoring runs. I don't know what that means.

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Speaker 3: Lewis Robert Jr. Will he be a Dodger? Will he

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Speaker 3: end up somewhere else? I don't know. Bring me more prospects,

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Speaker 3: more of them more. I'm Mike Carbon alongside me is

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Speaker 3: Chris Blank. He's in for Jason Smith tonight at Plank

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Speaker 3: Show where you find him. You hear him Sunday nights

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Speaker 3: alongside Arnie Spaniard pops up in and out on the

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Speaker 3: network as well.

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Speaker 4: Oh, I've got the Friday Night shown out too.

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Speaker 3: I forgot about the Friday Yeah you do follow us

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Speaker 3: up Friday seam right after. I was so conditioned for

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Speaker 3: years because of Bernie, right, because I like, you get

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Speaker 3: the yellow notepad from Arnie ahead, and we all do

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Speaker 3: when we work with Arnie. I would also get the

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Speaker 3: Bernie would have some something he wanted to run by me,

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Speaker 3: usually on a Friday morning. But yeah, Friday Night the

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Speaker 3: Plank Show, following our show eleven pm Pacific time, riding

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Speaker 3: you into the early Saturday morning hours. Boy, how did

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Speaker 3: that slip my brain? I'm sorry, bunny go what it

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Speaker 3: means to short you? The lack of sleep is something

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Speaker 3: that I'm getting used to. But no, it's you've had kids,

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Speaker 3: you know how that works. I still have an eleven

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Speaker 3: year old. She's keeping me up like crazy.

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Speaker 5: Now we're in the summer fun where bedtime is not

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Speaker 5: supposed to be a thing, right, so it's uh, you know,

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Speaker 5: we're at ten oh two Central time, and during the

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Speaker 5: last break I was in a little debate about putting

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Speaker 5: up the iPad and going to bed in summer. I'm like,

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Speaker 5: you gotta get conditioned because we're starting up here pretty quick.

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Speaker 4: MinC how long? About how far do you go back?

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Speaker 4: When you got two three weeks, two weeks, two weeks,

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Speaker 5: Sorry, yeah, you're right, because it's right before the start

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Speaker 5: of the Everything to me gears around the football season

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Speaker 5: Sure, so it's right before the start of the football season.

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Speaker 5: So we're getting there. I cannot wait. You have no idea.

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Speaker 5: You love the time with your kids during the summer.

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Speaker 5: It's great for about three weeks. Then you're ready for

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Speaker 5: them to go back to school. Count me among that crew. See,

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Speaker 5: I'm holding on time. I'm in the final throws man.

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Speaker 5: Next fall, they're both gone.

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Speaker 4: Oh really?

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Speaker 3: So well, one one's finishing up at some juco work

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Speaker 3: and then is going to transfer getting ready to start

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Speaker 3: And then the young one is going to go off

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Speaker 3: become smarter than me.

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Speaker 4: All right, if she isn't already. That's the goal though,

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Speaker 4: want your kids be smart, No.

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Speaker 3: That's it, and do great things while I try to

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Speaker 3: entertain and inform America.

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Speaker 4: Now, I don't know.

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Speaker 5: Can they use the word shot and fruits Shoden Freud?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, they're smarter than me.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure they've got more in the arsenal that I

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Speaker 3: don't even want to know about, particularly if you walk

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Speaker 4: Right, I'm only like a visitor there.

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Speaker 3: I've been told I shouldn't really post there by the youngins,

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Speaker 3: and I'm like, but that's where you are.

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Speaker 4: That's how I get you all on my side. Even

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Speaker 5: My son makes fun of me, my older son, because

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Speaker 5: I don't do I don't do TikTok. I do Instagram reels, okay, yeah,

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Speaker 4: But that's just it.

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Speaker 3: You try to keep a prize so you at least

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Speaker 3: be watching this, and that's where we're at. So like

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Speaker 3: stuff coming up. It's really been really cool, me and

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Speaker 5: It's amazing how the algorithm can get you every commercial

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Speaker 5: is gonna get you, just like every commercial break. I'm

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Speaker 5: fixing my golf swing because I guess I made the

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Speaker 4: So wish me luck? Is this you trying to be

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Speaker 4: Scotty Scheffler. I got too much personality. I can't be Scottisheeah?

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Speaker 3: The fun and exciting, glowing world of a guy who

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Speaker 3: doesn't want to be part of your shiny world. He's

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Speaker 3: really a fascinating case study in the greater.

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Speaker 3: We'll get into that a little bit later on, because

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Speaker 3: I find him fascinating and really he's now near and

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Speaker 3: a story that I think you you would find really

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Speaker 3: fascinating as we talk about the wonderful world of nil deals,

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Speaker 3: all college sports kind of landscape. Steve Sarkisian coming up,

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Speaker 3: where we have this twenty million dollar cap through the

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Speaker 4: How the hell do you decide when I'll go baby

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Speaker 4: the Deloitte system.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so like if it's really worth it to my

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Speaker 4: It's like, who's to decide that, right?

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Speaker 3: I might not be able to get his ass out

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Speaker 3: ten grand You don't know that everybody's got a price,

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Speaker 3: like Ted Dbias, he taught us all those years ago.

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Speaker 3: But here's Steve Sarkisian at the Texas High School Coaches Convention. Quote,

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Speaker 3: somewhere down the road, I don't know if it's tomorrow,

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Speaker 3: punished for going over the cap. I surely don't want

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Speaker 3: to be the school gets punished for doing that because

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Speaker 3: I like coaching, and I like the salary that the

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Speaker 3: University of Texas pays me to coach. Let's be frank,

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Speaker 3: And that's where the curiosity of it it becomes. Right,

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Speaker 3: the bean counting all the way down dollars and cents,

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Speaker 3: what allocation of that twenty million do you get for

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Speaker 3: your football program. We saw the split off the public

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Speaker 3: that was split. It was like what ninety seven points

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Speaker 4: And what have you.

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Speaker 3: But Sarkisian talking about the recruitment cap, call it like

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Speaker 3: it is, players are getting paid to go to school.

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Speaker 3: How much do you allocate to that area in the cap,

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Speaker 3: and how do you divvy up that money per position

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Speaker 3: because how do you try to estimate what a college

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Speaker 3: CAP's going to increase? By Chris, we have enough trouble

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Speaker 3: watching NFL and NBA teams go through this process every year.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and then what if you're at a place it

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Speaker 5: even if it's just I say, just one hundred thousand

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Speaker 5: a salary cap. And then someone got smart and realized, well,

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Speaker 5: holy yes we have a salary cap. Now that's what

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Speaker 5: the whole house settlement is. What are you talking about,

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Speaker 5: Coach Prime. We need a salary cap. We're supposed to

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Speaker 5: have one, now, don't I don't know if it's going

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Speaker 5: to stick. I don't know if it's going to stand.

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Speaker 5: You already have the and I hate talking court stuff, Mike,

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Speaker 5: I know you do too, But we already have the

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Speaker 5: lawyers for the plaintiffs in this that are trying to

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Speaker 5: re phrase the nil actual regulations.

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Speaker 4: See, you got me all wrong.

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Speaker 3: I love the league, LEAs and business on it to

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Speaker 3: I watched Smith's and I'm gonna make sure to steer

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Speaker 3: clear of it right now. But no, it also court

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Speaker 4: They're already pushing to get that taken out of it.

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Speaker 4: And that's supposed to.

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Speaker 5: Be the whole reason why you have inil Go and

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Speaker 5: why you have Deloitte that's monitoring this whole thing. So

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Speaker 5: it's gonna be you know, I like sorry, playing the

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Speaker 5: high in mind. He's like, yeah, we're gonna We're gonna

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Speaker 5: make sure we're relational, not transactional. Meanwhile, there's a line

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Speaker 5: of Lamborghinis that are sitting outside of Daryl k Royle

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Speaker 5: Stadium whenever recruits show up. Sure, buddy, but someone's gonna

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Speaker 5: get busted. He is right, it's just a matter of

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Speaker 5: will you have the power to truly enforce your rules.

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Speaker 3: Because I'll take it into the the larger, you know,

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Speaker 3: memorabilia world where I've traversed since I was a kid.

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Speaker 3: they always have these huge card convention slash autograph signings

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Speaker 5: But does that not then instantly put everything that everyone

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Speaker 3: Bit, Like I just I think this is an interesting system. Well,

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Speaker 5: It's a percent of twenty million. Twenty million has got

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Speaker 5: That's the formula. I mean, I I don't know that

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Speaker 2: Can I get that left? Now?

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Speaker 3: Here's the problem is they're still going to force you

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith

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Speaker 4: There's no Jason Smith this week.

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Speaker 3: He is off circumnavigating the globe, probably celebrating a Mets win,

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Speaker 3: Find me over at Swollen Dome. Find our buddy Chris

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Speaker 3: You know, we leave no pop culture stone unturned. Today

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Speaker 3: You saw the highlight reel stuff. There's Dak Prescott and

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Speaker 5: this stuff. He's like history where repeats itself and he

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Speaker 5: ends up paying them in the long run. But it

438
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Speaker 5: ends up costing them more because he drags it out.

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Speaker 5: What do you make of this approach that he has.

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Speaker 3: It's bad business, but but some of it becomes the

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Speaker 3: all right, if I'm not one hundred percent sure I

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Speaker 3: defended only to that point of if I'm not one

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Speaker 3: hundred percent sure that I want a guy full time

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Speaker 3: long term, especially when injuries have already cropped up, no

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Speaker 3: matter how productive they may be. Right, because you look

446
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Speaker 3: at parsons numbers when he plays and what he's meant

447
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Speaker 3: to that defense. But then you take the larger scope

448
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Speaker 3: of what your team has done, is it wise to

449
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Speaker 3: pay you know, top dollar? I mean, look, I always

450
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Speaker 3: talk about my TAP system. It's the patented Mike Harmon tap.

451
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Speaker 3: I need a thrower, I need an attacker, and I

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Speaker 3: need to protect.

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Speaker 5: Her on that I'm just about to ask you that.

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Speaker 5: So the TAP system is in. It's like the dentist system.

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Speaker 3: That's it for me, or it call it pat whichever

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Speaker 3: one you want, protector, attack or thrower. You know, you

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Speaker 3: go with it what you will. But beyond that then

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Speaker 3: then I got to start, you know, Parson out my dollars.

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Speaker 3: So certainly Parsons fits you know what I need as

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Speaker 3: one of my major three. But I understand sometimes, you know,

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Speaker 3: the reticence to commit, because we've seen a number of

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Speaker 3: other teams where they've committed too early and then all

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Speaker 3: of a sudden they realize, Wow, now we're really on

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Speaker 3: the hook. In this case, he waits, and then the

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Speaker 3: back end is that much worse and the dollar per average,

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Speaker 3: you know, per year average, and everything goes through the

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Speaker 3: roof because four or five other guys have been paid

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Speaker 3: in this case, you know, with TJ. Watt having just

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Speaker 3: gotten his money, Michael Parsons agents sure as helling coming

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Speaker 3: back on, I'm gonna take a lot less than that guy.

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Speaker 4: Mm hmm, right, and he wants.

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Speaker 3: Dollar for dollar or a dollar more because it's a

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Speaker 3: better headline. Michael Parsons is one of the best defensive

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Speaker 3: players in the NFL. And to your point, I could

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Speaker 3: not agree more. I love the tap system. I'm adopting

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Speaker 3: it now.

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Speaker 4: There you go.

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Speaker 5: You need your quarterback, you need your left or right tackle,

479
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Speaker 5: probably both right. And you saw a couple of years

480
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Speaker 5: ago John Gruden he really invested in the right or

481
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Speaker 5: didn't really invest in the right tackle, and everyone had

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Speaker 5: like the lane Johnson's of the world and others. I

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Speaker 5: mean even prior to him, Trent Brown, but is left tackle.

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Speaker 5: You know, you got a right handed quarterback. But the

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Speaker 5: attacker doesn't have to be Oh it's got to be

486
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Speaker 5: an ed rusher, or it's got to be a defensive tackle.

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Speaker 5: It can just be the position that is the best

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Speaker 5: player on your defense. And right now, boy, Jerry's waiting

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Speaker 5: three years, one hundred and twenty three million dollars.

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Speaker 4: That was the deal for That was a deal for J. TJ. Watt.

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Speaker 5: You had Max Crosby get paid. You had Miles Garrett

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Speaker 5: get paid. Remember Miles Garrett wanted a trade. He's like

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Speaker 5: trade mate, and the next thing you know, he gets paid.

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Speaker 5: It just keeps driving that dollar up and up and up.

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Speaker 5: So it's gonna get done, right, It's eventually gonna get done.

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Speaker 5: But now you've got to that number has gone. The

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Speaker 5: only person didn't really go up was Max Crosby. Like

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Speaker 5: his was thirty five point five. Daniel Hunter's deal with

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Speaker 5: the Texans thirty five point six, Miles Scarett forty mil TJ.

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Speaker 4: Watt pre season forty one meal. It's gonna be a.

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Speaker 5: Lot of your salary cap and taking care of the

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Speaker 5: guy whenever you're already a little bit wonky on that

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Speaker 5: number for the Cowboys. Anyway, now we know Michah Parsons

504
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Speaker 5: did take to social media a little bit earlier because

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Speaker 5: he liked and reposted a take from future Hall of

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Speaker 5: Famer JJ Watt. We talk about TJ. Let's talk about

507
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Speaker 5: his brother quote.

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Speaker 3: Anytime you can publicly take a dig at your star

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Speaker 3: quarterback and your star pass rusher simultaneously right before the

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Speaker 3: season begins, you just gotta take it dot dot dot.

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Speaker 3: Nothing makes guys want to fight for you more than

512
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Speaker 3: hearing how upset you are that they got hurt while

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Speaker 3: fighting for you. Boy, if ever, there was a need

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Speaker 3: for the sarcasm font, like I always joke here in

515
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Speaker 3: the Fox Sports Radio studio, we're all pretty adept at

516
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Speaker 3: it doing what we do, there's some level of snark

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Speaker 3: and cynicism. No matter how many positive twists we can

518
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Speaker 3: take to stories, there's some snarkiness that comes through about

519
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Speaker 3: my sarcasm bucket and how its level of done this

520
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Speaker 3: over the course of a four hour JJ Watt would

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Speaker 3: have needed to take that out and dump that and

522
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Speaker 3: just reset from start, because every word of that just

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Speaker 3: gets the tone tenor and verbiage is just a masterclass

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Speaker 3: right there and just waving at Jerry Jones.

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Speaker 5: I know we're up against it for the Seger's update. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: but is it doing damage to the Cowboys with this approach?

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Speaker 5: Earning you're out from Jerry to where they get paid

528
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Speaker 5: and everyone smiles, but you remember the process to get

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Speaker 5: there and what he said.

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Speaker 4: Is it affecting No? I think in the end, you

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Speaker 4: make your decision.

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Speaker 3: Look, Jerry's very loyal to his stars, particularly if he

533
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Speaker 3: feels like he found you right and even if he

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Speaker 3: takes the side swipe the dock, you know, the next

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Speaker 3: time he gets an opportunity to throw flowers in his

536
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Speaker 3: general direction, he's going to tell you that he's one

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Speaker 3: of the greatest throwers of the football.

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Speaker 4: Ever.

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Speaker 3: I can't I can't believe. I don't have like a

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Speaker 3: four minute clip of him or even ai Jerry talking

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Speaker 3: about some of those darts to George Pickens practice today, right, like, Oh,

542
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Speaker 3: that's Dak, that's the guy we paid, that's my guy, right,

543
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Speaker 3: because I mean again, look what he did with Ezekiel Elliott.

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Speaker 3: He went down and found him in Mexico to bring

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Speaker 3: him back and get him paid.

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Speaker 4: So you know he he will do that.

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Speaker 3: You know, he does that tough love thing and eventually

548
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Speaker 3: writes out the giant novelty check like he's at the

549
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Speaker 3: end of a game show.

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Speaker 4: So you know it's good.

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Speaker 3: You just have to wait him out. It's just a

552
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Speaker 3: matter of time. Now, how does that affect everything else? Well,

553
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Speaker 3: it leaves a fewer dollars to spend elsewhere, that's for

554
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Speaker 3: damn sure.

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Speaker 5: But you don't think it does long term damage. You

556
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Speaker 5: don't think these guys keep in the back of their

557
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Speaker 5: mind the fight they had to go through to get it.

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Speaker 5: They're getting paid and then the bag deal like once

559
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Speaker 5: once you get the second one. I mean, if you're

560
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Speaker 5: still playing at the level high enough to go get

561
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Speaker 5: a monster third the then great. But I think Jerry

562
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Speaker 5: has shown it. It may be a painful process, but

563
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Speaker 5: eventually you're gonna get your dollars. So if you're anywhere

564
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Speaker 5: near the level that you are now, and even that,

565
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Speaker 5: what are you seventy eighty percent he's not going and

566
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Speaker 5: finding the next shiny object. If he has a guy

567
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Speaker 5: that he thinks can play, because that's still his guy,

568
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Speaker 5: he doesn't let him out the door. Yeah, that's just

569
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Speaker 5: been his history. For better or for worse. And certainly

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Speaker 5: I know plenty of Cowboys fans. My ex wife's dad,

571
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Speaker 5: we still exchange texts every year. It's like, we're not

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Speaker 5: winning a damn thing until this guy has gone. And

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Speaker 5: I know exactly what he means by that, and I'm

574
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Speaker 5: not going there. I'm Joe positivity here, but he ain't

575
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Speaker 5: leaving that. Steven or whoever else isn't coming over the

576
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Speaker 5: top to make decisions for him.

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Speaker 3: So you just got to ride the lightning. Look, I'm

578
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Speaker 3: a Chicago guy. What do you think I've been waiting

579
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Speaker 3: for all the positivity and feel good? Yeah, they won

580
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Speaker 3: the off season and then rewarded Ryan Poles before they

581
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Speaker 3: won a damn game.

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Speaker 4: How do you think I feel? That's still wild to me?

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Speaker 4: Still wild to me? I mean, was he was he

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Speaker 4: in the contract year?

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Speaker 3: No?

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Speaker 4: Two years left? Makes no sense. Dumbest thing I've seen. Well, actually,

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Speaker 4: there's plenty of them.

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Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Jason Smith

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Speaker 2: Show with Mike Harmon weekdays at ten pm Eastern, seven

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Speaker 2: pm Pacific.

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Speaker 3: We leave no stone unturned, celebrating pop culture at every opportunity.

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Speaker 3: This time, christ Sports music, theater, film, you name it,

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Speaker 3: we'll talk about it here. The Jason Smith Show with Me,

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Speaker 3: Mike Harmon, No, Jason Smith tonight. Chris blank in his

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Speaker 3: stead in with us tonight. He'll follow our show on

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Speaker 3: Friday night eleven till two Saturday morning. That's Pacific time

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Speaker 3: The sounds such more bearable when you use the Pacific

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Speaker 3: time zone. No, I'm gonna do that because I think

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Speaker 3: it makes you feel a little more spry. How much

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Speaker 3: caffeine you got to you gotta do to get get

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Speaker 3: through that, because I know you do some work in

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Speaker 3: the morning. You get a nap into the kids, you know,

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Speaker 3: keep you from doing that? Like, how does that work?

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Speaker 5: There is a lot of caffeine, But there's If I

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Speaker 5: can get a good four hour nap after the show,

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Speaker 5: I'm good for the rest of the day.

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Speaker 4: So that's that's been the key. If I get four

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Speaker 4: hours after the show, I'm good to go. All right. Well,

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Speaker 4: well let me know because I got a good purveyor

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Speaker 4: of coffee.

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Speaker 5: Oh really, Yeah see, you know my great purveyor is

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Speaker 5: he's called Folgers, and I just pour it in and

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Speaker 5: drink it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm gonna elevate you. I'll just need a mailing address.

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Speaker 3: Just send it my way. We'll take care of you.

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Speaker 4: I like that.

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Speaker 3: There you go at Plank Show where you find and

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Speaker 3: find me over at Swollen Dome of course at Fox

620
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Speaker 3: Sports Radio if you have anything you want to fire in.

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Speaker 3: We did get a cool tweet going back to hour

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Speaker 3: one that you'll have to appreciate. This is from Adam quote.

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Speaker 3: Why should I be worried about the Dodgers? They won

624
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Speaker 3: the World Series last year? When was the last time?

625
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Speaker 3: How about a frescos Mets won anything. He's not even

626
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Speaker 3: here and he's catching strays. I love it.

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Speaker 4: Do you buy into the I think?

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Speaker 1: What is it?

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Speaker 2: This?

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Speaker 5: The Bill Simmons theory where once you want a title,

631
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Speaker 5: you can't really complain about anything for like five years.

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Speaker 4: Well there is some of that.

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Speaker 3: I mean, look, in most cases, even if you get

634
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Speaker 3: towards the ultimate goal, that usually buys you a couple

635
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Speaker 3: of extra years where maybe it shouldn't or everything went

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Speaker 3: your way before people realize, hey, you know that was odd,

637
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Speaker 3: that was crazy. So certainly we have that one guy

638
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Speaker 3: who's not up to hyperbole and trying to be held

639
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Speaker 3: up as the pinnacle of any profession or of any

640
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Speaker 3: world is our guy, Scotti Scheffler, who wins once again

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Speaker 3: at the Open and his dominance has continued. Right the

642
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Speaker 3: comparisons to Tiger Woods and his epic run are out there,

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Speaker 3: Scheffler kind of waving it off. Go look, he's at last.

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Speaker 3: My I counted, he's at fifteen to four. So let's

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Speaker 3: not be doing that. Obviously I'm paraphrasing, but a guy

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Speaker 3: who what has been interesting. And the way I wrote

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Speaker 3: it and just my quick notes was the subtitle was

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Speaker 3: the obsession we have with his not being obsessed. It

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Speaker 3: was a week ago where head of the Open, he

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Speaker 3: was fielding questions about his recent run and play and

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Speaker 3: what it means, and he talked about how, you know

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Speaker 3: he'll have that moment, that quiet moment, you know, bring

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Speaker 3: tears to his eyes thinking of the work that he's

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Speaker 3: done and everything that has led to what he's able

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Speaker 3: to do on the greens. And then once it's done,

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Speaker 3: here's a trophy, here's a picture, We're done with this.

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Speaker 3: There were a couple of great memes that came out

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Speaker 3: of Sunday's event, you know, with the kid looking like,

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Speaker 3: all right, I've done this before I'm done, what's next?

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Speaker 3: Isn't this where we normally go to lunch or whatever

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Speaker 3: the case may be. But folks have had a real

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Speaker 3: issue with Scheffler's and stance here, and even last week

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Speaker 3: Smith and I talking about a little bit, you know

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Speaker 3: where you're trying to reconcile it, right, like we love

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Speaker 3: our wonderful world of sports talk radio. But once we're done,

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Speaker 3: I think we all have a moment of all right,

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Speaker 3: did I do well?

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Speaker 4: What have I done?

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Speaker 6: What was it?

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Speaker 3: You still may have family members that say, do you

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Speaker 3: why are you going to get a real job? All

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Speaker 3: of those things? Maybe you still have that, Chris, I

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Speaker 3: know I certainly do. Even my grandmother, a lover, passed

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Speaker 3: away a couple of years ago, but for about the

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Speaker 3: first five years that I was doing media stuff, would

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Speaker 3: still keep buying me, you know, all the extras, like

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Speaker 3: I couldn't afford a shirt and.

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Speaker 4: Tie, so all that. Let's hear from Scottie Scheffler on

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Speaker 4: his place in history here.

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Speaker 7: I mean, I still think they're a bit silly, you know,

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Speaker 7: Tiger one, what fifteen majors, it's my fourth could just

682
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Speaker 7: got one fourth of the way there, so just I mean,

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Speaker 7: it's I think Tiger stands alone in the game of golf.

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Speaker 7: You know, he was inspirational for me growing up, and

685
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Speaker 7: he was a very, very talented guy, and he was

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Speaker 7: a special person to be able to be as good

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Speaker 7: as he was at the game of golf. And I

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Speaker 7: don't focus on that kind of stuff. That's not what

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Speaker 7: motivates me. I'm not not motivated by winning championships. And

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Speaker 7: I don't look at the beginning of the year and

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Speaker 7: just say, hey, I want to win X amount of tournaments.

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Speaker 7: I want to win you know, whatever it is.

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Speaker 2: I don't do that.

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Speaker 4: I have a treat.

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Speaker 3: So there you go, kind of talking about the larger scale,

696
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Speaker 3: the dreams of what he gets from it, and I

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Speaker 3: have to respect it. I have to appreciate it, right,

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Speaker 3: you know, we compartmentalize, like we all go through things

699
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Speaker 3: outside of the walls wherever we work that it only

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Speaker 3: comes in as much as you allow it to. And

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Speaker 3: in this case, he comes in, he compartmentalizes, he dominates,

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Speaker 3: and then he goes on to whatever it is, that

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Speaker 3: greater spiritual plane or whatever he's yearning to find. And

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Speaker 3: you know, it's it's a space that I wish I

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Speaker 3: could cancel the noise in my head, as he clearly

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Speaker 3: has found some aptitude in doing.

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Speaker 5: I'm very envious of a dude that can hit the

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Speaker 5: ball that well, strike it as smooth as he does,

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Speaker 5: and then say, yeah, I want a tournament. Doesn't really

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Speaker 5: matter to me.

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Speaker 4: It's like, what what do you tell you? Just sports?

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Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 5: My personal favorite meme that I saw from this week

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Speaker 5: was Emo Scheffler where they had put the you know,

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Speaker 5: the hair that did kind of come down and gave

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Speaker 5: a little lip ring. Because he does it sounds like

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Speaker 5: a guy that is very happy with his lot in life.

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Speaker 5: But golf isn't who he is, right, It's what he does,

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Speaker 5: it's not who he is. And I appreciate it, right.

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Speaker 5: I think it's pretty cool and I'm envious of it,

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Speaker 5: and I wish I could have that approach, because damn.

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Speaker 4: He can just fly.

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Speaker 5: He can flat out smoke it, and he's hitting the

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Speaker 5: ball so well right now. Just that little bit, maybe

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Speaker 5: this is a little bit more of that personality coming

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Speaker 5: out that might make him more relatable.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I just golf is in a weird spot right now

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Speaker 5: because Tiger was so dominant and overbearing that we're still

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Speaker 5: kind of reeling from it. Every so often you'll get

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Speaker 5: a Rory run like we did the Masters, or you'll

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Speaker 5: get a Phil run.

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Speaker 4: But he's the best player in the game right now, Mike,

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Speaker 4: and it's not even close.

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Speaker 3: But even look at Rory after he can pleaded the

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Speaker 3: career Grand Slam and made the admission of I'm finding

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Speaker 3: it hard week to week to be motivated. He got

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Speaker 3: killed for and I'm like, I can understand where you're at.

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Speaker 3: You had this tremendous feat and now it's just another tournament.

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Speaker 4: What's next? Right?

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Speaker 3: What is next in that process? No question about it. Hey,

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