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Speaker 2: The twenty twenty four NFL Draft in the books. Welcome

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Speaker 2: into a special edition to Chargers Weekly has always joined

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Speaker 2: by Matt Muddy Smith. Buddy, A lot has transpired since

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Speaker 2: I left Top Golf in El Segundo with you. What

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Speaker 2: a draft for the Chargers, you know, I think a

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Speaker 2: lot of teams can say that right afterwards, everyone's happy

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Speaker 2: with the selections and kind of the future of their franchise,

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Speaker 2: And we truly won't know in two or three years

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Speaker 2: as to you know, how some of these guys develop

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Speaker 2: and turned into NFL players. But I think Joe Ortiz

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Speaker 2: did a heck of a job in his first year's

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Speaker 2: general manager, really shape it out this roster, addressing needs

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Speaker 2: and getting potential starters on Day three.

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Speaker 1: That's the key. You know, you always want to come

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Speaker 1: out of the draft of three starters, you know, three pluses.

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Speaker 1: But pretty much most teams say, can we get out

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Speaker 1: no doubt that they got out with three. I mean,

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Speaker 1: those first three picks, those are starters, Those are high end.

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Speaker 1: You know, it's the best offensive tackle in the draft,

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Speaker 1: the best prospect we've seen in about a half decade.

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Speaker 1: It's the best linebacker in the draft, the one that

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Speaker 1: coordinated the defense for Jesse Minner and and Jim Harbaugh

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Speaker 1: to the tune of a national championship. And it's the

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Speaker 1: uh and it's a wide receiver that that's got more

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Speaker 1: juice than anybody on the team right now. So certainly

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Speaker 1: you're you're talking about, you know, three players that are

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Speaker 1: going to make an immediate impact. I know everybody's probably

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Speaker 1: already talked about it. It makes too much sense that,

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Speaker 1: you know, Junior Colson's going to be the starting middle

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Speaker 1: linebacker and he's he's going to be the green dot.

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Speaker 1: He just he knows the defense too well. He's he's

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Speaker 1: been in it, you know, for multiple years, through multiple

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Speaker 1: playoff runs to a national championship. It's the DJ said

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Speaker 1: it on the broadcast, and it was, you know, he's right.

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Speaker 1: He's like, it's going to be weird having a rookie

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Speaker 1: but that's what it's going to be. And man, that's

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Speaker 1: to me, that was that was the steal right that

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Speaker 1: that to me was like the steal of the draft.

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Speaker 1: And I thought for sure it was going to be

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Speaker 1: and we know how much Coach likes him. But you know,

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Speaker 1: I think he was floored that Colson was on the

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Speaker 1: can get into all the picks, and there's so much

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, DJ, nobody's better than DJ at this

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Speaker 2: and in his top fifty he had mcaukey I think

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Speaker 2: at thirty he had all at eight, but you know,

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Speaker 2: a bunch of quarterbacks in front of him, so you know,

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Speaker 2: the fifth overall prospect of the draft. And he had

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Speaker 2: Colson inside his top fifty and he goes at sixty nine,

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Speaker 2: And like you said, it addresses a need, uh, And

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Speaker 2: it just checks that box of knowing Jesse Minter's scheme,

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Speaker 2: being able to call the defense. The familiarity I think

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Speaker 2: that they selected and just the connections to Jim Harball

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Speaker 2: or some other coaches on the staff. But yeah, you know, buddy,

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Speaker 2: we were doing the pod on Thursday during the draft

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Speaker 2: when we started, and wide receivers started to fly off

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Speaker 2: you know, Kean Coleman went on day two, Xavier Legett

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Speaker 2: Keenan Allen has departed, you bring in a guy who

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, I just want to make sure I

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Speaker 1: But it's definitely wide receiver. And I think that's sort

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Speaker 1: think people and look, you don't know what their board looks.

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Speaker 2: because the tackles flew off the board. So I really

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Speaker 2: think Roma Dudesay or Malik Neighbors were the two wide

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Speaker 2: Select one of those those guys at five, who's there

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Speaker 2: going to help Justin Herbert protecting Justin Herbert's paramount, especially

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Speaker 1: No, I I think you know then you can play

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Speaker 1: the exercise out multiple ways. One is like that, you

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Speaker 1: number one tackle in a draft, a blue chip prospect

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Speaker 3: It's coach Ken, Uh, you got where are you at?

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Speaker 3: You got family there?

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Speaker 3: Some enthusiasm down man, We've got.

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Speaker 1: Some shoes, all right, Oh yeah, let's test.

433
00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:57,240
Speaker 2: Let's let's test the draft room here.

434
00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:04,680
Speaker 3: How excited is everybody here?

435
00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:10,760
Speaker 1: All right, let's go. And so they're like, can you

436
00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:15,440
Speaker 1: imagine You've got you know, Dean and John and a

437
00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:19,040
Speaker 1: g Spanos in there. You can see Jeanie the head

438
00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:21,960
Speaker 1: of business in the background. Fred is like all of

439
00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,199
Speaker 1: these people that we know that that are great, and

440
00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,600
Speaker 1: we get to see a side of them that fans

441
00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:28,640
Speaker 1: don't and we love being on the road with them

442
00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,120
Speaker 1: or being at the facility with them, and we've gotten

443
00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:36,159
Speaker 1: to know their personalities. But between ownership, you know, front office,

444
00:22:36,200 --> 00:22:40,760
Speaker 1: business side staff, all those scouts. I just love that

445
00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:45,720
Speaker 1: it's not only Vidal's you know, family that's being asked

446
00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,680
Speaker 1: to how excited are you? But now all of a sudden,

447
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:51,560
Speaker 1: you've got all these people screaming and yelling, and it's

448
00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:55,720
Speaker 1: just like, that's culture. That's what we're talking about. That's

449
00:22:55,760 --> 00:22:59,560
Speaker 1: that enthusiasm. As he likes to say, you know, unknown

450
00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,320
Speaker 1: to man, and that's what this guy is bringing, just

451
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,119
Speaker 1: that juice. And just imagine you hang up that phone

452
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:07,760
Speaker 1: if you're Comini Vidal and you've been waiting around until

453
00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:11,240
Speaker 1: the sixth round, and you know you're maybe bummed, and

454
00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:12,840
Speaker 1: you're like, god, I think I'm better than some of

455
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,199
Speaker 1: these guys. And I just I led the FBS and

456
00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:19,119
Speaker 1: tackles broken in yards after contact and all these touchdowns

457
00:23:19,119 --> 00:23:20,840
Speaker 1: and I got to I'm still sitting here, and you

458
00:23:20,880 --> 00:23:24,000
Speaker 1: hang up that phone and you're like, let's go, man.

459
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:26,000
Speaker 1: I am, I Am, I Am. I just had an

460
00:23:26,160 --> 00:23:29,399
Speaker 1: entire room of scouts and GMS and pro personnel and

461
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:32,359
Speaker 1: owners screaming and yelling because they're excited I'm coming to town.

462
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,560
Speaker 1: Like there's just something so different about him than anybody

463
00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:36,600
Speaker 1: else you could play for.

464
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,439
Speaker 2: It feels good to be wanted to when you're a

465
00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:41,800
Speaker 2: draft picks, especially late, you know you're bummed that you

466
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:43,639
Speaker 2: didn't go as high as you thought you were gonna go.

467
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:46,359
Speaker 2: And we'll get to Brendan Rice, but yeah, to have

468
00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:50,399
Speaker 2: that support, and I have to believe money that fans

469
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:54,280
Speaker 2: feel it too. Like we've interviewed Joe on this podcast

470
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:57,119
Speaker 2: and just to hear him talk throughout this weekend. I

471
00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,119
Speaker 2: thought he did a bang up job. And he's just

472
00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:02,840
Speaker 2: such a personable like I feel like fans should feel

473
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:06,880
Speaker 2: like they're a part of this family, right Joe. Joe

474
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:10,960
Speaker 2: comes across as just like a friend, a buddy, a

475
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:14,240
Speaker 2: family member. And the way that he shouted out everybody

476
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:17,920
Speaker 2: from Josh and the communications crew, to Duddy and the

477
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 2: video crew, to Weedmeire and just everybody that went into

478
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:27,919
Speaker 2: the draft and made it what it was right. It

479
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:31,600
Speaker 2: takes a team effort from video to communications to film,

480
00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:35,240
Speaker 2: and I really feel like they're building this culture where

481
00:24:35,359 --> 00:24:39,640
Speaker 2: everybody is involved, including the fans, and it's a special

482
00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:41,560
Speaker 2: thing to watch. And it's only been a few months.

483
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,399
Speaker 1: Yeah you said it. There are all names that we

484
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:49,160
Speaker 1: know that maybe die hard fans, no, but it is great.

485
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:52,160
Speaker 1: People like to be acknowledged for all the work they're

486
00:24:52,200 --> 00:24:56,159
Speaker 1: putting in. And I don't know if anyone's ever you know,

487
00:24:56,280 --> 00:24:58,439
Speaker 1: tipped the cap to our man Duddy. We love Duddy.

488
00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:01,359
Speaker 1: He's one of the great just energy guys. You know,

489
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,480
Speaker 1: you get on a plane after a win, he gets on,

490
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:06,239
Speaker 1: he starts barking, and he's just he's awesome. And so

491
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:08,919
Speaker 1: to get you know, in this big moment where you

492
00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:10,400
Speaker 1: have a huge press, so that a lot of people

493
00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,920
Speaker 1: are paying attention to uh, Smitty. We love Chris, who's

494
00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,000
Speaker 1: who's always there for me. We go on the road

495
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:19,000
Speaker 1: and I am a I'm a bit absent minded and

496
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,359
Speaker 1: can be an absolute and can be a total mess.

497
00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,280
Speaker 1: And I'll forget a sweatshirt or a polo. It's too

498
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,560
Speaker 1: hot and all I brought was a sweatshirt. And the

499
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:28,520
Speaker 1: booth is right in the path of the sun. And

500
00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:30,119
Speaker 1: I'll give Chris a call and be like, hey, bit,

501
00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,160
Speaker 1: he's got you. I get a polo? Man, can I get?

502
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:34,119
Speaker 1: I get something? I am cooking up here and I

503
00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:37,119
Speaker 1: don't feel like sweating my brains out for sixty minutes

504
00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:39,640
Speaker 1: calling this game. And you know, people that that we

505
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,320
Speaker 1: that we appreciate and that that we rely upon. I

506
00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 1: love that that Joe made sure to reach out. And Chris,

507
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 1: by the way, is the guy in the in the

508
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 1: video with Joe giving him the number one who's probably

509
00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:54,359
Speaker 1: about the same. I think I might be a little

510
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:57,440
Speaker 1: bit taller than Smitty, but just to put it in perspective,

511
00:25:57,800 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 1: you know, I'm clocking in a little over five ten

512
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:02,600
Speaker 1: here to see he looked like he was four foot

513
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 1: two and in that jersey Joe left. You know, Chris

514
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 1: is probably in that five to nine range, and he

515
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 1: looked like he was about four foot two standing next

516
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:12,240
Speaker 1: to Alt. And I think that's one of the other

517
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 1: things that really came out of this is after the

518
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,320
Speaker 1: you know, some of the people and I look, we

519
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 1: were obviously you know how I felt about the Joe

520
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:21,280
Speaker 1: Alt pick. I was all over it and loved it.

521
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,639
Speaker 1: I think it's a statement pick. But for all the

522
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:28,919
Speaker 1: incoming that the organization took that that, you know, people

523
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,399
Speaker 1: for whatever reason decided to air their grievances with me

524
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 1: and my mentions. I'm just someone who's projecting what I

525
00:26:35,040 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 1: think is going to happen and what I personally would

526
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:40,160
Speaker 1: would like to see happen. Whatever. But yeah, I got

527
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 1: a lot of it. And and I think now they

528
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 1: recognize now when all these people are like, my god,

529
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:48,000
Speaker 1: look at this human being. Look at how and you

530
00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:49,879
Speaker 1: were able to stand next to him and walk around

531
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:53,520
Speaker 1: the tour and you're like that big and that athletic

532
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,679
Speaker 1: with that you know, bloodline of a guy that played

533
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,159
Speaker 1: for double you know, decade plus as a tackle in

534
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:03,160
Speaker 1: the league. Okay, now we get it. Now, if one guy, Yeah,

535
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 1: you want to bet on one guy to come out

536
00:27:05,000 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 1: of this thing, that's I don't. I have no question

537
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 1: that's the guy I would put my money on. It's

538
00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 1: not even close. I'm going to bet on one guy

539
00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:13,720
Speaker 1: to make a Pro Bowl in the next two years.

540
00:27:13,720 --> 00:27:15,480
Speaker 1: He's the first guy I would put my money on.

541
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 2: I don't have the exact stats in front of me,

542
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:19,760
Speaker 2: but I think he gave up like two sacks of

543
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,480
Speaker 2: his career Notre Dame, like two one two penalties, two

544
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:26,880
Speaker 2: penalties like just he's and he's twenty one years old. Man, right,

545
00:27:27,119 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 2: he's nearly six ' nine. He's gigantic, and like I

546
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,919
Speaker 2: know that coach said Rashaw had locked in a left tackle,

547
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 2: but who's to say it a couple of years they switch.

548
00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 2: I it's I think it's such a luxury to have

549
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 2: two guys who are so talented and versatile that are

550
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 2: go to protect Justin for for as long as as

551
00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 2: long as they have him.

552
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 1: So yeah, and that was the other thing that coach

553
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,439
Speaker 1: said right after that pick. We you know when we

554
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 1: did it, we did it before you know the press

555
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 1: and all the or maybe we didn't. I don't know.

556
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 1: I don't remember if they had talked or not, but

557
00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:03,359
Speaker 1: you know, best five, so you know, if Trey wants

558
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 1: to to get out.

559
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,440
Speaker 2: Here, he said Trey was best five too, so.

560
00:28:06,280 --> 00:28:08,160
Speaker 1: He's say, hey, there you go, start working on being

561
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,640
Speaker 1: a guard dude, you know, and now if you've got him.

562
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 1: And obviously they did not draft the center. They had

563
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,639
Speaker 1: multiple opportunities to do that. We talked about Norris Ad

564
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,240
Speaker 1: and Bordelini. They had chances to do that. But they

565
00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 1: must feel good about Bozeman and perhaps about the potential

566
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 1: that one of these guys could become a center. So

567
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,600
Speaker 1: it's it's you feel good about that group. I think

568
00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 1: we all feel like we said a lot better about

569
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 1: the wide receiver room today than we did on Thursday night.

570
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 1: And that's why we said it's nine picks and there's

571
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 1: still free agency. There is now still no comp pick

572
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 1: formula to worry about. Now you've got that second wave

573
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,640
Speaker 1: of free agency where you can start looking at some

574
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 1: of these vets that that you might think. But remember

575
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 1: right now, there's already seven guys in that room. So

576
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 1: there's not going to be seven guys in that room

577
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:55,840
Speaker 1: at the started season, So that's kind of something you

578
00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 1: got to remember when it comes to trying to figure

579
00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 1: out how you're going to get this thing to line up.

580
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 2: You know, another need on this team we talked about

581
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 2: throughout this process was a defensive tackle. Defensive line, just

582
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 2: continue to bolster it. And right off the rip, Day three,

583
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 2: Justin a boy bee from Alabama, who I guess it's

584
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,840
Speaker 2: hard to go under the radar at Alabama, but apparently

585
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:21,480
Speaker 2: he did up until this year had a breakout season.

586
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:25,560
Speaker 2: Dan Brugler talked about it. DJ called Justin a temperament

587
00:29:25,640 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 2: pick because of his effort, his toughness, his physicality, and

588
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 2: obviously Jim Harbaugh saw this guy up close last year

589
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 2: at the Rose Bowl. And that's one of the themes

590
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:40,720
Speaker 2: I think throughout this process is I don't think he

591
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 2: played against Notre Dame when Joe Alt was there, but

592
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 2: he's got a coach on the staff that knows Joe Alt,

593
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 2: Ladi McConkey. They played against Junior Colson, he coached a

594
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 2: boy Bee, saw him up close, and this is a

595
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 2: pick that I really liked because everything you hear in

596
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,480
Speaker 2: terms of his effort is toughness, his physicalit and the

597
00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 2: fact that he could play a lot of different positions

598
00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 2: across the line. Them getting their hands on Justin I

599
00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 2: think could be a good thing in his rookie season.

600
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think one thing that jumps out to me

601
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 1: from you know, Junior, from Junior Colson, Justin a Boydbee

602
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 1: and Lad McConkey is you're talking about and this is

603
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,240
Speaker 1: something you hear through the draft process and I think

604
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 1: some people don't quite get it. It's like whatever, but

605
00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 1: do you love football in the NFL? You have to

606
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 1: love football because man, it will beat you to a pulp.

607
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:38,080
Speaker 1: Your body is going to take a pounding and if

608
00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 1: you don't love it's that's going to catch up. It's

609
00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:44,080
Speaker 1: going to catch up. And your willingness to turn plays

610
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,920
Speaker 1: down or your willingness to get back out there after injury.

611
00:30:48,560 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 1: You know, are you injured or are you hurt? Oh

612
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 1: I'm hurt, but I don't feel like playing because I

613
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 1: don't love football. Man. This is a great opportunity for

614
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,600
Speaker 1: make a lot of money in a very small window,

615
00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:00,240
Speaker 1: but it's not something that I love. Look at those

616
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 1: three guys, right Lag McConkie back injury, coming back from that,

617
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 1: to get back out there and fight and get on

618
00:31:06,800 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 1: the field to try to win a national championship game.

619
00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 1: You know, Justin mcboygbe just a horrible, just tragedy in

620
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:16,000
Speaker 1: his life and losing his brother and also a neck

621
00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:19,040
Speaker 1: injury that some people thought could be career ending. Through

622
00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:22,239
Speaker 1: all of that, realizing how much he loves football and

623
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 1: just wanted to get back on the field and this

624
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 1: is not going to be career ending. And Junior Colson,

625
00:31:27,680 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 1: you know who, he said, played with one and one

626
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 1: hand was completely broken. The other hand had two broken fingers,

627
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 1: and he's going out there two broken bones and he's

628
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 1: take whatever, just tape them both up. We got it

629
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,600
Speaker 1: with national championship to win. I think that's like those

630
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:45,040
Speaker 1: are important guys too, you know. And then Joe, you know,

631
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 1: and then even the other like we said, Joe Alt.

632
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 1: Listen to that guy, watch those promotional videos. Listen to

633
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:52,680
Speaker 1: him talk about dominating and what it means to him

634
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 1: to go out there and how much he just loves

635
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,720
Speaker 1: it in the camaraderie and that that room and what

636
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 1: it means, you know, to him to be one of

637
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:01,560
Speaker 1: those fingers on that glove. Like there's a very common

638
00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 1: theme in a lot of these players and I think

639
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:08,440
Speaker 1: the idea of some adversity that that also plays a

640
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:11,880
Speaker 1: part in Hey, these are you know, and look, football

641
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 1: is in adversity sport. The majority you have to be

642
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 1: you know, you've got to have a little something going

643
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 1: on in order to be willing to do what these

644
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 1: guys are willing to do, just in general. But that

645
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 1: is something that jumped out at me from a character standpoint.

646
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,960
Speaker 1: Some of that there was that connection between a number

647
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 1: of these picks.

648
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,640
Speaker 2: You heard Jill Ortiz say, you know, the best player

649
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 2: available for the Chargers, right, these are the traits that

650
00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:41,040
Speaker 2: they were identifying to. The toughness, the competitiveness, and you know,

651
00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 2: I think you're one hundred percent spot on when when

652
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 2: you talk about fighting through adversity and some of the

653
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:49,040
Speaker 2: things that that Colson and boyd By have been through

654
00:32:49,560 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 2: on the field off the field. To h to really

655
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 2: have that translate with the Chargers is going to be huge.

656
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 2: And you know you talk about the defensive line for

657
00:32:59,200 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 2: the Chargers. You got Khalil. By the way, I saw

658
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 2: Khalil and Morgan Fox courtside at the Laker game last night.

659
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 2: They were in the mix. Caleb Williams was there, the

660
00:33:08,800 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 2: Bear New Bears quarterback. But I saw he had Morgan

661
00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:15,280
Speaker 2: and Khalil had better seats than Caleb. But that that

662
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 2: defensive line, that defensive line coming together, the mix of

663
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:23,040
Speaker 2: veterans and then you know guys who they have drafted

664
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 2: the last couple of years. Where do you see a

665
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 2: boy bee fitting in across this line?

666
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:29,920
Speaker 1: I guess we'll find out competition. He's a big body,

667
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 1: you know. I'm just pulling up his six five ninety two.

668
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 1: He's a big guy, you know. And he had had

669
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 1: a great grade in that in that game, had fourteen

670
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:41,120
Speaker 1: key plays that he was part of. In the playoff

671
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:45,040
Speaker 1: game against Michigan, was out there for fifty two snaps,

672
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 1: twenty eight against the run, twenty four in a pass rush.

673
00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:49,959
Speaker 1: Like you said, this was his first full year as

674
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 1: a start, and you watched the highlights from this year.

675
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 1: All seven of those sacks. Some of them are explosion

676
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,520
Speaker 1: plays where he just sheds the guy right away. Some

677
00:33:56,680 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 1: of them are you know, just fight through it, never

678
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 1: stop until a beat after the whistle, plays where he

679
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 1: does not let the play die, thinking that maybe someone's

680
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,279
Speaker 1: just opening downfield. Now you keep kept with it another sack.

681
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 1: The thing also that I noticed is they line him

682
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 1: up all over. He's he's lined up his nose, he's

683
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 1: lined up his three four I two I, you know,

684
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 1: inside the tackle. He's lined up wide as as a

685
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,240
Speaker 1: six outside the tight end. So very similar to Tooley

686
00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:27,399
Speaker 1: where and Joey where. Now jesse Minner is probably like, yeah,

687
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 1: this is my guy, man. We can we can put

688
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 1: him inside, we can put him outside, we can we

689
00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:35,440
Speaker 1: can mix this this up on the front with Morgan

690
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 1: Fox and you know, with with boy b with Tooley,

691
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,319
Speaker 1: with Bosa, with Khalil, where you don't know where it's

692
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:43,879
Speaker 1: coming from. And that's one of the things about jesse

693
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,320
Speaker 1: Minner and and and you know him and the McDonald

694
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 1: defense as well, So you don't know where it's coming from.

695
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:52,320
Speaker 1: That's that's the key. It's the old simulated pressure that

696
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 1: you hear so much about. And so to be able

697
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 1: to have someone that can rush, to have Bosa Tooley

698
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,320
Speaker 1: and now a boy who can rush from the inside

699
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:02,920
Speaker 1: or USh from the edges, that's a huge you know,

700
00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,839
Speaker 1: I have enough bend and speed to rush from the edge,

701
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 1: is enough power to rush from inside. That's a huge

702
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,919
Speaker 1: advantage for this defense. So that's and that was something

703
00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:12,799
Speaker 1: they desperately need. I think a lot of people as

704
00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 1: I kind of pull up, I want to pull up

705
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 1: the fourth here, and just to remind myself of what

706
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,160
Speaker 1: corners were still on the board. Yes, he had Kyrie

707
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 1: Jackson go right after him, you had, you had Richardson

708
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 1: nice tweet, raiders go at it, you know, just right

709
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:35,919
Speaker 1: after him. And yeah, so to me, like again, BP

710
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 1: a best player available. Yeah, well we'll figure it out

711
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 1: with corner. But nobody is higher than a bugbe right

712
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 1: now for us. And it also happens to be a

713
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:48,439
Speaker 1: position of need, So that's it's. Yeah, I think he's

714
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:50,840
Speaker 1: I think every one of these players. I will not

715
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 1: be surprised when you think about the corner room and

716
00:35:53,239 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 1: it being Santae, Samuel Jr. Dean Leonard, Jaseir Taylor, and

717
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,440
Speaker 1: now you add cam Hart Anti he's still to that mix.

718
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 1: I think it's wide open. I wouldn't be the least

719
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:05,719
Speaker 1: bit to surprise to see one of those two fifth

720
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,839
Speaker 1: rounders out there at Christian Fulton I forgot as well.

721
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 1: So yeah, chances are it's gonna be a Sante and

722
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:15,400
Speaker 1: Christian and then we'll see if I can still be

723
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 1: the slot you know, or or could could you know,

724
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 1: is cam Hart at his six foot three, four to

725
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 1: four speed, you know, gonna be one of those outside

726
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:26,920
Speaker 1: guys and you push, you know, one of these other

727
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 1: guys inside. I don't know that there's because I know

728
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 1: they did say that Still had inside outside versatility, so

729
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 1: maybe he's the starting nickel. But it's gonna be fun.

730
00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,400
Speaker 1: It's it's gonna be a competition at every one of

731
00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,239
Speaker 1: these positions, and I think you're going to see a

732
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 1: lot of these young players play immediately.

733
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 2: As Jim said, competitors are welcome. Tarheve Still and cam

734
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:46,440
Speaker 2: Hart the next two players off the board, both corners.

735
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 2: Uh Still from Maryland. Michigan played Maryland. And this is

736
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 2: the This is just the advantage that I think this

737
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 2: coaching staff is going to have going in the next

738
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 2: year is seeing guys uploads and personal in the Big

739
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:01,400
Speaker 2: ten and then having guys that you've coached, right, So

740
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:04,719
Speaker 2: Junior Colson comes in, Jesse Mener coached him, Cam Hart

741
00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:08,799
Speaker 2: comes in. Safety's coach. Chris O'Leary coach Cam Hart at

742
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 2: Notre Dame. I think he was a freaks list guy too.

743
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 2: Bruce Velvin voiceless guy right, six three two oh two.

744
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,800
Speaker 2: So with Cam Heart, we're talking about all the traits

745
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:22,640
Speaker 2: that translate. I believe that he played wide receiver if

746
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 2: I'm not mistaken, to start his career similar to a

747
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 2: Richard Sherman like Jim Harbaugh comp and then you talk

748
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 2: about still Hortiz said that inside outside versatility, being able

749
00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 2: to play outside, also being able to play nickel. This

750
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:39,440
Speaker 2: is gonna be a competition. And I wouldn't be shocked

751
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:42,759
Speaker 2: if if one of these guys gets substantial playing time

752
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 2: this upcoming season.

753
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:47,879
Speaker 1: Immediately, Yeah, I mean, like, so why does a why

754
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 1: does a freaks list guy slide? And that's you know,

755
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 1: there's different reasons. There's traits guys there are, you know,

756
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:58,560
Speaker 1: which is what he is. He's a trades guy. At

757
00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 1: the same time, he only allowed I think one or

758
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 1: two receptions over twenty five yards this past season. So

759
00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 1: but you know, they talk about, oh, what's the issue.

760
00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 1: There's a little bit of stiffness there, a little lack

761
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 1: of fluidity, got a little handsy, you know. It was

762
00:38:12,760 --> 00:38:14,640
Speaker 1: kind of all those sort of things that will knock

763
00:38:14,719 --> 00:38:17,440
Speaker 1: you down. But that's what coaches are for. That's why

764
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 1: coaches get paid, you know, coach them up here here's

765
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:22,440
Speaker 1: a guy, like you said, and I want to make

766
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 1: sure I get I want to get it all right.

767
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:28,360
Speaker 1: But here's, like you said, someone who's coming in a

768
00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:32,840
Speaker 1: legitimate full six foot three. I don't remember what his

769
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:36,239
Speaker 1: wingspan is. I do know it's freakish though it's it's

770
00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 1: it's a freakish wingspan. He just didn't have like the

771
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 1: ball production at Notre Dame. Yeah, that the PBUs and

772
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:46,360
Speaker 1: the i iNTS aren't there. But you know, he's a

773
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 1: guy that comes out with an elite grade from this

774
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 1: past year from PFF. And and again you know how

775
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:53,759
Speaker 1: I feel about their grades. It's the last thing I

776
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:55,920
Speaker 1: look at. But as I'm pulling it up, it's it's

777
00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 1: certainly the one thing that jumps out at you. And

778
00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:02,280
Speaker 1: that's that's so. So you're basically still is the production

779
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,399
Speaker 1: guy and Heart is the trades guy. That's what that's

780
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:09,359
Speaker 1: what you took. Still had great production numbers, and Heart

781
00:39:09,480 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 1: has the traits, So why not take one of each

782
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 1: in the fifth round and let's see what you can do.

783
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:18,080
Speaker 1: And again that that's in addition to what trades guy

784
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 1: Dean Leonard and and someone that we've seen play pretty

785
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,759
Speaker 1: well when asked to start and play some snaps in

786
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 1: John Taylor. So now you feel a lot better about

787
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 1: that corner room. And you didn't have to use a

788
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:32,120
Speaker 1: first you didn't have to trade down and you know,

789
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,839
Speaker 1: and take a corner and add that first pick or whatever.

790
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,400
Speaker 1: And who knows what was available to them. You know,

791
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 1: some people say that the Jets wanted to jump up

792
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 1: to number five and that that was there and that

793
00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:44,880
Speaker 1: that was a possibility. Whatever they get. The number one

794
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:48,400
Speaker 1: tackle set the tone and I think, you know, based

795
00:39:48,440 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 1: on what their evaluations are, where we thought some of

796
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:52,479
Speaker 1: these players, I mean still I think is the only

797
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 1: one that and Johnson are the only two that you

798
00:39:56,680 --> 00:40:00,319
Speaker 1: really were like, okay, maybe they reached the lit little bit,

799
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:03,799
Speaker 1: but they're higher on the chargers board than anybody else's board,

800
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,600
Speaker 1: you know, but everybody else is. You know, Colson was

801
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 1: expected to go in the second maybe high second. McConkie

802
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:11,439
Speaker 1: was thought to be a back end of the first,

803
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 1: very very high second guy either right where he was

804
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 1: supposed to go, or you got a value there, a

805
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:21,319
Speaker 1: boy be. When you think about the production, I think

806
00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:23,920
Speaker 1: that seems about right. There weren't a lot of interior

807
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:25,960
Speaker 1: tackles outside of those top players.

808
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 2: Joe said they had some third grade, third round grades

809
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:31,360
Speaker 2: and maybe a couple of second round grades on.

810
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:34,440
Speaker 1: A boy B. So yeah, so so there you go.

811
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 1: And then obviously Brnnan Rice, which we're going to get

812
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:40,480
Speaker 1: to super just incredible value in the seventh round.

813
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, real quick. Kim Hart, So I'm from the DMV area.

814
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 2: He went to the rival high school, Good Council. He

815
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 2: was the number ninety seven wide receiver nationally coming out

816
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,359
Speaker 2: of Maryland, number twelve player from Maryland, number thirty two

817
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:57,279
Speaker 2: wide receiver Nashley, number eight player from Maryland. So he

818
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 2: goes into college as a wide receiver, and I believe

819
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 2: that's how Richard Sherman's path was right played.

820
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 1: Well, he played. Richard Sherman played a couple of years

821
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:08,720
Speaker 1: as a wide receiver and when when Harbaugh got hired,

822
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 1: he did that with a lot of guys and that

823
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 1: that's something that if you want to change the culture,

824
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:16,879
Speaker 1: coaches will tend to do. They'll flip it. They'll they'll

825
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:21,680
Speaker 1: flip you know, full backs, the linebackers, wide receivers to corners.

826
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:24,320
Speaker 1: And yeah, that's what he did with Sherman. And you

827
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 1: see how that played out. So and Cam Heart certainly

828
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 1: you could tell was emotional in the video that they

829
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:31,719
Speaker 1: had to him. Thought he should have gone a lot higher.

830
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 1: And again, if you're not going to get drafted in

831
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 1: the first in the first round, where you get that guaranteed,

832
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 1: you know, four or five years with the with the

833
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 1: option go to the go to where you fit invest

834
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 1: man and get to your second Contract's what it's all about.

835
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:51,280
Speaker 1: And I'm sure you know both cam Hart and Still

836
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:54,839
Speaker 1: and all these guys Vidal, Rice, they're all pretty darn

837
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 1: excited they're going to end up here and have an

838
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:58,880
Speaker 1: opportunity to make all that money on that second contract

839
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 1: because they landed in a really good situation for them.

840
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,279
Speaker 2: All right, I'm looking at the next guy's up here.

841
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 2: Kamai Vidal.

842
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,359
Speaker 1: The running back from Troy's a fun video to watch,

843
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 1: by the way, folks, go go over to YouTube and

844
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 1: watch the Kamani Vidal highlights from from Troy. He's first

845
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 1: of all, we got Tangleman, we got.

846
00:42:17,360 --> 00:42:20,759
Speaker 2: We got the great nephew of Hank Aaron and the

847
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 2: son of Jerry Rice back to back with that, So.

848
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:27,840
Speaker 1: Like I wouldn't overlook that. With the Rice thing, you know,

849
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,239
Speaker 1: he doesn't want to be a coach guy's made just

850
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 1: tens of millions of dollars. He gets paid to indoors.

851
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 1: He doesn't have the coaching is a grind. And I

852
00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:40,359
Speaker 1: don't think you can overlook, you know, coach Harbaugh who

853
00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:42,040
Speaker 1: was with the Raiders when Jerry was there in the

854
00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:46,719
Speaker 1: twilight of his career, thinking yeah, you know, maybe maybe

855
00:42:46,840 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 1: rookie camp, maybe maybe Jerry wants to kind of hang out.

856
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:52,280
Speaker 1: Wouldn't mind him in this how young, this wide receiver

857
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,359
Speaker 1: room is. See if you can get Jerry over there

858
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 1: talking to Quinton a little bit, you know, training camp,

859
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 1: mini camps. You know, not a bad deal. He al right,

860
00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:02,399
Speaker 1: Wardan will come out, want to hang out, hang out

861
00:43:02,480 --> 00:43:04,880
Speaker 1: and you know, watch Brennan. You're you're more than welcome.

862
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,919
Speaker 1: Doors open for you, man. I don't think, hey John,

863
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:09,640
Speaker 1: all thirteen years you want to kind of come out

864
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 1: and hang out with dev and Nick Hardwick and watch

865
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:14,400
Speaker 1: your son. We we'd love to have you out there

866
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 1: on the field. Free, free to come on out here

867
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:18,680
Speaker 1: and you know, chop it up. Just just hang out

868
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 1: and if you see anything, just wait and go ahead.

869
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:24,640
Speaker 1: Like I don't. I don't think there's anything. I don't

870
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 1: think there's anything wrong with thinking that that that could

871
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 1: be also just a fringe benefit of those two guys.

872
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, uh Vadoll five eight, two thirteen. Between

873
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 2: the tackles runner physical, can catch the ball, can can

874
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:46,840
Speaker 2: pass protect, and he'll be another running back in that

875
00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 2: room competing for touches money.

876
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 1: Again, all I would say, like the stats are are

877
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 1: one thing, and the stats are incredible, like that is

878
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:57,799
Speaker 1: one Yeah, go go look at the stats. Go look

879
00:43:57,840 --> 00:44:00,400
Speaker 1: at at at Kamani vidalts as at matter. I'll just

880
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 1: give him to you right now because they're stupid if

881
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 1: and again I don't think they have the advanced stats here.

882
00:44:07,920 --> 00:44:08,279
Speaker 1: They don't.

883
00:44:08,800 --> 00:44:12,279
Speaker 2: Sixteen sixty one one thousand, six hundred and sixty one

884
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:13,680
Speaker 2: yards in FBS last season.

885
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:18,400
Speaker 1: Yeah so, but it's the it's the yards after contact,

886
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:22,879
Speaker 1: it's the broken tackles, it's the mistackles. So just go watch,

887
00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:26,760
Speaker 1: go watch the highlights, and and and again it's it's Sunbelt.

888
00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 1: Sun Belt's pretty damn competitive. It's it's not, you know,

889
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 1: a power five, but at the same time, it's and

890
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 1: he got better every year every year, you know, played

891
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:39,359
Speaker 1: fourteen games last year, played fourteen games this year, went

892
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:41,600
Speaker 1: from eleven hundred and thirty to sixteen hundred and sixty,

893
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 1: went from four nine to five six to carry, went

894
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:50,319
Speaker 1: from ten touchdowns to fourteen touchdowns. But he's I don't

895
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 1: I hate putting comparisons on because I you know, the

896
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:57,719
Speaker 1: the I don't want to stick a label on him,

897
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 1: but watching him just for me, and and a lot

898
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:03,359
Speaker 1: of this goes back to you know what your frame

899
00:45:03,400 --> 00:45:05,920
Speaker 1: of reference is. But I remember calling a lot of

900
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 1: Oregon State games and Quiz Rogers just short but thick,

901
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,439
Speaker 1: and even though he was small, you're like, my god,

902
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 1: this guy is tossing six foot one linebackers like they

903
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:19,759
Speaker 1: don't have a chance against him. And he's just so

904
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:22,800
Speaker 1: low to the ground, and that lateral quickness and that

905
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:27,239
Speaker 1: jump cut ability, that's what jumped out. I mean, I

906
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:30,200
Speaker 1: don't know if he has the same I don't know.

907
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:31,520
Speaker 1: I don't I don't have it in front of me.

908
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:33,879
Speaker 1: I don't know if he has the same explosiveness as

909
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:39,319
Speaker 1: as Quiz. Quiz was explosive. But he's got receptions. He's got,

910
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 1: you know, receiving tds, he's got, So that's all there.

911
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 1: So there's there's a lot that to me looks like

912
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 1: that that to me looks like a guy that's gonna stay.

913
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:52,799
Speaker 1: That's that that's not a sixth rounder. That's hey, let's

914
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:54,720
Speaker 1: see if we can sneak him through on the practice squad.

915
00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 1: I'd be very surprised if if it wasn't, you know,

916
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 1: because look, that's a stacked room now too, Elijah Dotson,

917
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:04,239
Speaker 1: you know, we know what they thought of him and

918
00:46:04,320 --> 00:46:08,120
Speaker 1: through training camp last year. Obviously, Spillers might be younger

919
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 1: than Vandal for all I know, you know, because he

920
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 1: was so he was the youngest player in the draft

921
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:16,879
Speaker 1: two years ago and and Vandals a four year guy.

922
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,239
Speaker 1: So it's possible that Isaiah Spiller is still younger than him.

923
00:46:19,239 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 1: But to me, that's that's going to be a hell

924
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:23,480
Speaker 1: of a camp battle. Which one of those guys is

925
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:25,239
Speaker 1: the third bat. Because you already got Ben Mason as

926
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 1: your fullbacks, you're carrying a full back. They signed him

927
00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 1: and they want him. Jim Rba likes playing with a

928
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 1: full back, so they're going to carry three, and that's

929
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:35,319
Speaker 1: going to be a hell of a battle between those

930
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 1: three guys, between Vidal, Spiller, and Dotson.

931
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:44,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, Vodal, you know, you talk about the competition level.

932
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:47,920
Speaker 2: We just had a guy leave from Western State, who

933
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:49,680
Speaker 2: was with her, who was with the Charges for seven

934
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 2: years at Austin Eckler. Right, you know, so competition necessarily.

935
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:56,279
Speaker 2: You know, if you could play ball, you could play ball.

936
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:58,320
Speaker 2: And uh Vodal is definitely going to be in the

937
00:46:58,400 --> 00:47:00,400
Speaker 2: mix in that that running back room which I'm just

938
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:02,320
Speaker 2: so fascinated by. We know Gus Edwards is going to

939
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 2: be there if JK. Dobbins is back to form, we

940
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 2: know what he is going to provide, and he could

941
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 2: be really the dark horse in terms of just really

942
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 2: breaking out and comeback player that year, tight capability in

943
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:20,360
Speaker 2: an offensive line centric Charges offense the last.

944
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 1: Tier for Chris, I'm at the NFKFF page right now,

945
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:26,399
Speaker 1: the PFF ultimate page. So yeah, this is what guy had.

946
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 1: Three hundred carries, right, three hundred and five carries. We

947
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 1: talked about the overall numbers they have him with seventeen

948
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:37,960
Speaker 1: forty seven. They have yards after contact eleven to fifteen,

949
00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 1: and that's not that big of a deal. A lot

950
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 1: of times that can just speak to you don't have

951
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 1: a great offensive line, so you know you got somebody

952
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 1: there and you're just kind of getting bumped off of

953
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:46,600
Speaker 1: them and you're trying to make something happen. So but

954
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 1: to me, it's this miss tackles forced on runs ninety

955
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 1: eight misstackles. That's not yards after contact, that's not a

956
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 1: little you know shit, that's if that's to be accurate,

957
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:02,840
Speaker 1: misce tackles per attempt zero point three to two thirty

958
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:07,640
Speaker 1: two percent. So you know you're talking about a mistackle,

959
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 1: mistackle forced on every third run like that's that to

960
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:19,040
Speaker 1: me speaks to strength, elusiveness, explosiveness, being able to work

961
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:20,879
Speaker 1: three arm tackles and stuff. And that's what you get

962
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:24,359
Speaker 1: when you're five eight. That's small, that elusive and two

963
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 1: hundred and fifteen pounds. I mean, my gosh, that is

964
00:48:28,440 --> 00:48:31,759
Speaker 1: that is an incredible amount of weight and power to

965
00:48:31,840 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 1: carry on a frame at five foot eight.

966
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:38,520
Speaker 2: Best player available for the Chargers, as as Joe Ortiz

967
00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:40,640
Speaker 2: said before they dressed the Joe allt and it goes

968
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:42,400
Speaker 2: all the way down to Bataal in the second in

969
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:47,799
Speaker 2: the sixth round rather seventh round two receivers. We talked

970
00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:50,720
Speaker 2: about commodity of it all in the sixth Brendan Rice

971
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:55,279
Speaker 2: going in the seventh and by all indications, everybody that

972
00:48:55,600 --> 00:48:59,319
Speaker 2: we spoke to or who had a big board had

973
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:03,959
Speaker 2: Brendan Ryece going in the fourth round, maybe the third round.

974
00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:07,399
Speaker 2: I think Dane Brugler had him in like one.

975
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:10,879
Speaker 1: Five up Danes. I'm pulling up Danes list right now.

976
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:18,239
Speaker 1: So he had Rice ranked as his let's see, where

977
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:22,880
Speaker 1: is it. I'm looking right here as his eighteenth receiver,

978
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:24,359
Speaker 1: third to fourth round grade.

979
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:28,560
Speaker 2: Okay, So why did he drop money? Why do we

980
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:29,280
Speaker 2: think he dropped?

981
00:49:30,000 --> 00:49:33,680
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. I think because the

982
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 1: productions there, right, twelve touchdowns, that's there, and the yards were.

983
00:49:38,120 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 2: Catch seventeen point six in the PAC twelve, so that's there.

984
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 1: My guess is probably needs to needs to shore up

985
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:51,239
Speaker 1: some route running, you know, like we said, that's that's

986
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 1: something that is more valuable than anything. So here's weaknesses.

987
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:58,840
Speaker 1: Average separation. Separation's important what we talked about with Mconkie's

988
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,840
Speaker 1: the best separator in the draft. Doesn't consistently play up

989
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:06,320
Speaker 1: to his size, loses battles against physical corners below average

990
00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 1: on fifty to fifty balls, accelerates well out of break

991
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:12,240
Speaker 1: tendency to get a head start and round select routes,

992
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 1: body strength to slip off the jam, and needs to

993
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:17,839
Speaker 1: develop his release techniques. Willing, an aggressive blocker, but inconsistent

994
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:19,800
Speaker 1: in space. Never let the team in catches or receiving

995
00:50:19,880 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 1: yards in any of the season. So there's the weaknesses

996
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:25,320
Speaker 1: from Dane. But at the same time, this is a

997
00:50:25,360 --> 00:50:27,719
Speaker 1: seventh round pick. It's a guy who's six oh two three,

998
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 1: so he's just he's six two and a third, he's

999
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 1: two hundred ten pounds, he's got massive he's got nine

1000
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:36,360
Speaker 1: to five eighths in tan's got seventy eight inch wing spanning.

1001
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:38,319
Speaker 1: He's a four to five to forty guy. And he's

1002
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 1: Jerry Rice's kid, and he put up twelve touchdowns for

1003
00:50:41,840 --> 00:50:45,279
Speaker 1: SC last year. So in the seventh round kidding me

1004
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:48,960
Speaker 1: like that, that's someone that I would absolutely be willing

1005
00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 1: to bet on.

1006
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 2: And then right after that, Cordelius Johnson from Michigan, somebody

1007
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:58,760
Speaker 2: that Jim Harbaugh knows. The one thing that it stood

1008
00:50:58,760 --> 00:51:01,359
Speaker 2: out to me is in here ring Chad Alexander talk

1009
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:05,440
Speaker 2: about him perhaps the best blocking wide receiver in the

1010
00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:07,520
Speaker 2: entire draft. So this guy's going to help you on

1011
00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:11,239
Speaker 2: special teams if he can block. He has a job,

1012
00:51:11,920 --> 00:51:14,759
Speaker 2: you would think, and he'll compete in that room. I

1013
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:17,759
Speaker 2: think lanzerol I talked about his route running leaves a

1014
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 2: lot to be desired.

1015
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:22,360
Speaker 1: But yeah, other than a lot of production there, so

1016
00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 1: so not a lot of production. But you said it.

1017
00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:26,399
Speaker 1: You know, the way you have to build special teams

1018
00:51:26,440 --> 00:51:27,920
Speaker 1: now is going to be different. You're going to get

1019
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 1: bigger guys out there. It's not necessarily just your smaller

1020
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:35,279
Speaker 1: fast corners that you want. You're going to start putting linebackers,

1021
00:51:35,480 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 1: bigger wide receivers out there because of the way that

1022
00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:41,000
Speaker 1: that kickoff is going to work moving forward. So that's

1023
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:42,959
Speaker 1: you know, that's kind of what you're speaking to there, Chris,

1024
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:45,160
Speaker 1: is that this is someone that's got a chance to

1025
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:47,360
Speaker 1: make the team because of what he can do on

1026
00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 1: the special team side. So but now you got seven

1027
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:55,480
Speaker 1: receivers in that room, right, Semi Fojoco, Josh Palmer, Darius Davis,

1028
00:51:55,560 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 1: and Quinton We're already there and now you add these three.

1029
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:00,800
Speaker 1: So that's going to be all of a competition. And

1030
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:03,279
Speaker 1: who knows what happens in free agency. You know, if

1031
00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 1: there is a Michael Thomas or a Tyler Boyd or

1032
00:52:05,239 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 1: one of these guys where there's not a compic involved

1033
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:08,759
Speaker 1: now that you'd be interested in bringing in, and what

1034
00:52:08,840 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 1: that means for that room. So and that's good. It's

1035
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:13,080
Speaker 1: better to have a better to have it and not

1036
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:14,360
Speaker 1: need it than to need it and not have it.

1037
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 2: So do we think at Joshua paulber wide receiver one

1038
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:21,359
Speaker 2: right now and Lad mcconukey two or Flick.

1039
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 1: I don't think of it as a one to two

1040
00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:24,880
Speaker 1: or a three. I just think of who can you

1041
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:27,279
Speaker 1: put out there and how do they fit? You know,

1042
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:30,960
Speaker 1: is josh the X because he's been asked to play

1043
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:33,239
Speaker 1: X when Keenan's out there and Mike's out and he's

1044
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:36,280
Speaker 1: been able to excel at that. Is he the slot

1045
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 1: because that's sort of what he has done his first

1046
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:42,360
Speaker 1: three years here, is just shadow Keenan and be that

1047
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 1: big slot and try to replicate everything Keenan did, where

1048
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:48,719
Speaker 1: the majority of those you know as the best slot

1049
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:50,759
Speaker 1: receiver in the NFL, which is what Keenan's been for

1050
00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:54,800
Speaker 1: the majority of his career. You know, mconukey to me

1051
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:57,399
Speaker 1: is more of a z I think you know he did.

1052
00:52:58,239 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 1: He's not the biggest guy. He's one hundred and eighty

1053
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:01,400
Speaker 1: pound and sort of that was one of the knocks

1054
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:02,920
Speaker 1: on him is that it's hard to put weight on

1055
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:04,960
Speaker 1: it's been hard for him to keep weight on. So

1056
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:07,319
Speaker 1: it's hard to be an X when you're when you're

1057
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:09,640
Speaker 1: that light unless you're really good, you know, unless you're

1058
00:53:09,719 --> 00:53:12,440
Speaker 1: just really good in your initial your your initial burst

1059
00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:14,640
Speaker 1: and you know, off the snap where you can shed

1060
00:53:14,719 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 1: that press quickly and they can't even get their hands

1061
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 1: on you, which wouldn't surprise me. He played seventy percent

1062
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:21,520
Speaker 1: of his snaps outside. He can play outside. I just

1063
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:24,120
Speaker 1: don't know if it's as a Z or as an X,

1064
00:53:24,200 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 1: and then can you work with quick because look, Quinton's

1065
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:30,880
Speaker 1: built like an X. That's that's six three two fifty pounds,

1066
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 1: fifteen pounds. He should be an X, you know, he

1067
00:53:33,719 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 1: should have the strength and with the explosion numbers that

1068
00:53:38,320 --> 00:53:41,680
Speaker 1: he has, the vert, the broad the forty like that,

1069
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:44,680
Speaker 1: that's all X. I don't know why it's not lining up,

1070
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:48,279
Speaker 1: So it's perhaps coaching mental what he was asked to do.

1071
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:51,480
Speaker 1: So if you can, if you can make that work,

1072
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:55,040
Speaker 1: then that's you know, That's that's how I would see it.

1073
00:53:55,560 --> 00:53:59,200
Speaker 1: Is that And by the way, how often is this

1074
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 1: team going to be in a lie? Even I don't

1075
00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:03,480
Speaker 1: think very often. I would be really surprised if they're

1076
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:04,279
Speaker 1: that's a good point.

1077
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:05,359
Speaker 2: That's probably key point.

1078
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:09,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like this is a team to me, that's that's

1079
00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:11,920
Speaker 1: going to be playing with full back, running back. That's

1080
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:13,919
Speaker 1: it's gonna be playing in twenty one or it's gonna

1081
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:17,440
Speaker 1: be playing in twelve more often than not. So this

1082
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 1: is not a This is not a heavy eleven personnel team,

1083
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:23,360
Speaker 1: is you know, from from what I would imagine. So

1084
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:26,439
Speaker 1: I think that's where the whole Maybe it's not which

1085
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:28,239
Speaker 1: three are out there, it's which two are out there,

1086
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 1: and that's where the Cornelius Johnson comes in because he

1087
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 1: can block his tail off and maybe he's out there

1088
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 1: for a lot of these plays.

1089
00:54:34,560 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 2: Also, I saw a video if you go on X

1090
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:40,200
Speaker 2: or TikTok or whatever, Quentin Johnson working out with Barbaron

1091
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 2: Harrison Junior.

1092
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:41,719
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1093
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:44,560
Speaker 2: This this this offseason and leading up to the draft

1094
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:46,640
Speaker 2: process for for Marvin, and.

1095
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:49,000
Speaker 1: That's great for him. Yeah, you know, get those X

1096
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:51,360
Speaker 1: reps in man, you know, if that's if that's what

1097
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 1: the team said, and that's what they believe you can

1098
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:56,359
Speaker 1: be and and they can instill because that's the thing

1099
00:54:56,440 --> 00:55:00,960
Speaker 1: with Q. It's not physical, it's all mental. It's all

1100
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:05,920
Speaker 1: concentration and it's all confidence with him because he's fast enough,

1101
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:08,320
Speaker 1: he's big enough. Part you know, here we are with

1102
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:10,879
Speaker 1: the Stuart Smalley, right, you know, he's big enough, he's

1103
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:13,960
Speaker 1: fast enough and got got it. He should be catching

1104
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:16,800
Speaker 1: these balls. So I think it's just a for me.

1105
00:55:16,960 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 1: It's it's finding that right coach that can crack that

1106
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:23,320
Speaker 1: code and say all we're doing is we are just

1107
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:26,960
Speaker 1: tracking the football over your head. That's what we're working on. Once,

1108
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:28,840
Speaker 1: because you've got the speed. I mean, we saw it

1109
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 1: in the Green Bay game. He's wide open, he's beating

1110
00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 1: the corner, he shook off the press, he's got two

1111
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:35,840
Speaker 1: steps and he just couldn't concentrate to haul it in,

1112
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:37,800
Speaker 1: which would have been a win. And maybe the Jordan

1113
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:40,839
Speaker 1: love story has never written, you know, because they're they're

1114
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:42,800
Speaker 1: two in or whatever, they're three and six at that

1115
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:45,680
Speaker 1: point and they don't have a chance to take off.

1116
00:55:46,040 --> 00:55:50,839
Speaker 1: And that's that's what we're talking about. So I think

1117
00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:53,359
Speaker 1: that's sort of the way because I had somebody when

1118
00:55:53,400 --> 00:55:56,960
Speaker 1: I had posted something on Twitter about now can we relax?

1119
00:55:57,120 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 1: Now do you see you take the tackle one? And

1120
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:01,800
Speaker 1: there is no At the time when I tweeted it,

1121
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:03,560
Speaker 1: I was like, there's not been another tackle taken where

1122
00:56:03,560 --> 00:56:05,719
Speaker 1: it picked like sixty five and no other tackle has

1123
00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:08,200
Speaker 1: gone yet. There's a ton of wide receivers that have

1124
00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:10,560
Speaker 1: flown off the board because of how deep the position

1125
00:56:10,640 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 1: group was. And that's what you have to do, all right,

1126
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:14,400
Speaker 1: if we take our wide receiver here, which are we

1127
00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:18,040
Speaker 1: getting to tackle here? And so that in that clearly

1128
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:20,719
Speaker 1: was no, you're not, They're gonna all yes, and yes,

1129
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:22,440
Speaker 1: it's set the record for the most tackles taken in

1130
00:56:22,480 --> 00:56:24,400
Speaker 1: the first round of the NFL Draft. They were gone.

1131
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:26,960
Speaker 1: Teams were jumping up like crazy to get those guys.

1132
00:56:27,480 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 1: So and when I brought that up, they're like, well,

1133
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 1: there's you a wide receiver one. And I was like,

1134
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:34,600
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter. It does not matter. Do you have

1135
00:56:34,840 --> 00:56:36,360
Speaker 1: the personnel on the field that you need to be

1136
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 1: on the field. Is he a starter? Put whatever number

1137
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:41,479
Speaker 1: you want next to McConkey. He's a starter. He's gonna

1138
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:43,160
Speaker 1: get a ton of snaps because of the way he

1139
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:47,400
Speaker 1: separates the routes that he runs, and just visualizing him

1140
00:56:47,400 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 1: as a Keenan Allen type player for Justin to make

1141
00:56:50,760 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 1: himself available and be exactly where he's supposed to be

1142
00:56:53,080 --> 00:56:54,360
Speaker 1: with the separation he's supposed to have.

1143
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:57,560
Speaker 2: The number one thing Quentin Johnson eats in year two

1144
00:56:57,640 --> 00:57:00,880
Speaker 2: is confidence. He's just these confidence and and this is

1145
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:03,200
Speaker 2: the coaching staff and the coaches to instill it. And

1146
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:07,800
Speaker 2: I said this on Thursday. Everybody was peppering Joe and

1147
00:57:08,840 --> 00:57:11,239
Speaker 2: Jim with questions about the wide receiver, and listen, it's

1148
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:15,880
Speaker 2: it's it's they're good questions because Justin heeds weapons excuse me,

1149
00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:20,120
Speaker 2: and he says bye. By the sound of all these questions.

1150
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:24,720
Speaker 2: Let's not bet against Joshua Palmer and Quinton Johnson too.

1151
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:29,680
Speaker 2: And that's what I love about what Jim Harball is

1152
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:32,480
Speaker 2: as a leader is he's always got his guys backs,

1153
00:57:33,040 --> 00:57:35,560
Speaker 2: and he's going to try to instill confidence in the

1154
00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 2: guys who are in that room right now. And let's

1155
00:57:39,320 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 2: not give up on Quintin. He was a first round

1156
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 2: pick for a reason. He had all the trades. He

1157
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 2: had some tough moments, but guess what, the entire team

1158
00:57:46,840 --> 00:57:49,400
Speaker 2: last year had tough moments. And you could point to

1159
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:51,040
Speaker 2: a lot of different players who are still on this

1160
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:53,840
Speaker 2: roster and who are no longer here that had tough

1161
00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 2: moments last year in a in a season that I

1162
00:57:56,440 --> 00:58:00,880
Speaker 2: don't think anybody expected last thing about out the wide

1163
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 2: receiver's money. Our producer Shorten Air Andrew just sent me

1164
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:10,480
Speaker 2: this this thing on Brenda Rice Ig yesterday.

1165
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:11,520
Speaker 1: I just want to read it real quick.

1166
00:58:12,120 --> 00:58:14,280
Speaker 2: Yesterday I began to drop four rounds from where I

1167
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:16,320
Speaker 2: was supposed to go. Today, I laid my brother to

1168
00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:19,000
Speaker 2: rest in Dallas. He was at a funeral yesterday trying

1169
00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 2: to mourn, but also waiting for a phone call. I

1170
00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:24,640
Speaker 2: don't know what happened to me to drop, but I'm

1171
00:58:24,680 --> 00:58:26,840
Speaker 2: glad God gave me the ability to focus on him,

1172
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:29,400
Speaker 2: and I felt as a God as well as Keith

1173
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 2: brought me back to my faith. Now the journey up

1174
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:36,040
Speaker 2: the mountain once again, you will feel my pain. So

1175
00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:40,200
Speaker 2: you have a motivated player coming in here who doesn't

1176
00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:42,440
Speaker 2: have to go far. And he talked about throughout this

1177
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:44,640
Speaker 2: process wanting to play for a guy like coach Harpball.

1178
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 1: He gets his wish. Yeah, it is so much more

1179
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:52,800
Speaker 1: important to go to the right situation as a seventh

1180
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:56,240
Speaker 1: round pick than the wrong situation as a third round pick.

1181
00:58:56,680 --> 00:59:01,240
Speaker 1: I fully believe that football is so circumstantial, and careers

1182
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:05,080
Speaker 1: at every position have been made and ruined based on

1183
00:59:05,320 --> 00:59:09,880
Speaker 1: fit and coaching and how you're used and what you

1184
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:14,080
Speaker 1: have around you. So you if you're let me just

1185
00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:17,960
Speaker 1: kind of pull up. If you go in if you

1186
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:21,440
Speaker 1: go in the third to Carolina, or you go in

1187
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:25,680
Speaker 1: the third to New York, or you go on the third.

1188
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:28,160
Speaker 1: And I'm not trying to take shots at those quarterbacks,

1189
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:30,520
Speaker 1: but I'm just saying, let's like, let's say you're going

1190
00:59:30,600 --> 00:59:34,040
Speaker 1: in the third to Pittsburgh, you know, or you're going

1191
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:38,720
Speaker 1: in the third to just pick any of them, you know, Baltimore,

1192
00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:41,280
Speaker 1: Or you're going to go to a place where they're

1193
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:44,320
Speaker 1: stacked at wide receiver like Tampa, but they already got

1194
00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:47,120
Speaker 1: Mike Evans and Chris Godwin. Are you going to Cincinnati

1195
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:50,640
Speaker 1: where they've already got you know, Jamar Chase. Hey man,

1196
00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:54,280
Speaker 1: this thing's open. There's competition, and you got Justin Herbert

1197
00:59:54,320 --> 00:59:57,080
Speaker 1: throwing you the football. There are going to be opportunities

1198
00:59:57,120 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 1: for you to catch the ball. And that's what it's

1199
00:59:59,520 --> 00:59:59,919
Speaker 1: all about.

1200
01:00:00,360 --> 01:00:00,560
Speaker 2: It is.

1201
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:06,080
Speaker 1: It is all about opportunity, circumstance, the ability to Like

1202
01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:10,640
Speaker 1: I saw Joel talking Joe Klatt talking about how everybody's wondering, what,

1203
01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:12,320
Speaker 1: you know, what the Falcons are thinking. He's like, what

1204
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:14,400
Speaker 1: about what Michael Pennix is thinking. It's a guy who's

1205
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:17,280
Speaker 1: twenty three years old, is the most pro ready quarterback

1206
01:00:17,320 --> 01:00:20,240
Speaker 1: in the draft, and he's got a GM and a

1207
01:00:20,320 --> 01:00:22,240
Speaker 1: presser saying we could let him sit for four or

1208
01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:24,120
Speaker 1: five years, and I'm like four or five years, I'm

1209
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:27,160
Speaker 1: ready to go now, Like I'm the most pro ready

1210
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:30,320
Speaker 1: of all these guys. I've got five years under my belt.

1211
01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:32,880
Speaker 2: I wish you had to talk about that pick, by

1212
01:00:32,920 --> 01:00:33,160
Speaker 2: the way.

1213
01:00:33,240 --> 01:00:35,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, So it's just one of those like that's the

1214
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:38,040
Speaker 1: thing with Brendan Rice is, Hey, you're gonna have opportunities.

1215
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:41,680
Speaker 1: You know, you are going to have opportunities to play.

1216
01:00:41,720 --> 01:00:44,480
Speaker 1: And we've seen it. You know, we've seen late round

1217
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:48,520
Speaker 1: picks and undrafted free agents become great players. It's not

1218
01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:53,600
Speaker 1: out of the ordinary. So I know, I know for

1219
01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:56,920
Speaker 1: certain that I'm sure they're very happy that they were

1220
01:00:56,960 --> 01:00:59,200
Speaker 1: able to take him and get all that value it.

1221
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:01,440
Speaker 1: And that's going to be a heck of a competition. Man.

1222
01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:03,760
Speaker 1: It's because they're not all gonna make it. They're not

1223
01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:07,480
Speaker 1: carrying seven wide receivers. So the one I'm interested in,

1224
01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:11,840
Speaker 1: because you want to talk about playing with fire so

1225
01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:15,280
Speaker 1: you got the best, one of the best returners in football,

1226
01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:18,160
Speaker 1: you know, and Darius Davis, but how much can you

1227
01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:21,240
Speaker 1: use him as a wide receiver now? And with the

1228
01:01:21,400 --> 01:01:26,480
Speaker 1: explosiveness and elusiveness of lad McConkie, does that become a

1229
01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:27,840
Speaker 1: battle for a spot?

1230
01:01:28,080 --> 01:01:28,240
Speaker 2: You know?

1231
01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:32,320
Speaker 1: Is Darius Davis in trouble despite having this incredible rookie

1232
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:35,160
Speaker 1: season as a returner because McConkie is a four to

1233
01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:39,640
Speaker 1: three guy with elusiveness and can fill that role, you know.

1234
01:01:39,840 --> 01:01:42,800
Speaker 1: So that's I think something to keep an eye. Just

1235
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:45,960
Speaker 1: then it comes to these seven guys and getting it

1236
01:01:46,080 --> 01:01:50,760
Speaker 1: down to five, you know, sot like how much team

1237
01:01:50,800 --> 01:01:53,040
Speaker 1: that doesn't need wide receivers really because the way they're

1238
01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:53,720
Speaker 1: gonna play foball.

1239
01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:56,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's like how much you're gonna put on

1240
01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:59,000
Speaker 2: Malconukye's played if if if you if you are gonna

1241
01:01:59,000 --> 01:02:01,520
Speaker 2: be a rd centric team and say, hey, we think

1242
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:04,840
Speaker 2: Black can handle this too. It makes it interesting because

1243
01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:08,360
Speaker 2: Darius Davis was awesome last year, so like it'd be crazy,

1244
01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:11,520
Speaker 2: he'd be like that, it'd be twenty five teams right now.

1245
01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:14,200
Speaker 1: They'd be like, put the way is why I don't

1246
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:17,600
Speaker 1: think it's realistic that that's it. But there's gonna they

1247
01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:21,600
Speaker 1: all you know, there's there's there is. It was a

1248
01:02:22,440 --> 01:02:24,280
Speaker 1: it was a light room. Now it's a heavy room

1249
01:02:24,480 --> 01:02:27,280
Speaker 1: and it's gonna have to get somewhat lighter. So not

1250
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:29,360
Speaker 1: everyone's going to be staying in there, and it'll be

1251
01:02:29,400 --> 01:02:31,120
Speaker 1: interesting to see which ones end up making through the

1252
01:02:31,160 --> 01:02:31,760
Speaker 1: whole process.

1253
01:02:32,280 --> 01:02:34,840
Speaker 2: That's the beauty of yesterday. We were with A Lohi

1254
01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:37,960
Speaker 2: Gilman on Thursday, sixth round pick got a second contract

1255
01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:40,920
Speaker 2: with the Charges, and his advice to the rookies were

1256
01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:44,600
Speaker 2: you come in listen now now it doesn't matter the

1257
01:02:45,040 --> 01:02:48,160
Speaker 2: the the pick you were, the round you were selected

1258
01:02:48,360 --> 01:02:51,040
Speaker 2: is all out the window. And we've seen guys we

1259
01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:54,640
Speaker 2: talked about Austin Ekl early undrafted guy, A Loohi Gilman,

1260
01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:57,880
Speaker 2: sixth round. I just I go back to twenty eighteen.

1261
01:02:58,120 --> 01:03:01,480
Speaker 2: Justin Jackson and his contry to getting that team to

1262
01:03:01,560 --> 01:03:04,440
Speaker 2: where they went to twelve and four that year. Was

1263
01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:06,760
Speaker 2: a hero at Sunday Night Football against the Steelers, scored

1264
01:03:06,800 --> 01:03:09,280
Speaker 2: a touchdown on Thursday Night Football against the Chiefs. You

1265
01:03:09,400 --> 01:03:11,720
Speaker 2: can get these late round picks that can make immediate

1266
01:03:11,840 --> 01:03:15,760
Speaker 2: impacts in year one and Brendan Rice and guys like

1267
01:03:15,840 --> 01:03:19,680
Speaker 2: Cornelia should take heat and know that, hey, we have

1268
01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:22,560
Speaker 2: a chance now to make an impact. And you know

1269
01:03:22,680 --> 01:03:25,480
Speaker 2: Jim Harball is going to play the best players who

1270
01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:29,040
Speaker 2: are the most competitive that that buy into what he's selling.

1271
01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:34,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt. And it's you know, I'll leave it

1272
01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:38,360
Speaker 1: with this of the draft in totality, like the thing

1273
01:03:38,440 --> 01:03:41,600
Speaker 1: that jumps out at me again, I'll go back to

1274
01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:44,520
Speaker 1: where I started with the Junior Colson pick, right, Like

1275
01:03:44,680 --> 01:03:48,120
Speaker 1: imagine saying, hey, would you like to spend the money

1276
01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:51,240
Speaker 1: on Kenneth Murray and keep Eric Kendricks around, or I'm

1277
01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:53,000
Speaker 1: gonna give you Junior Coulson which one would rather have?

1278
01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:55,680
Speaker 1: Like it's crazy to think that's how impactful this guy

1279
01:03:55,840 --> 01:03:58,120
Speaker 1: is going to be that you would take him over

1280
01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:00,720
Speaker 1: Kenneth Murray, who got an eighteen million dollar deal from

1281
01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:03,320
Speaker 1: Tennessee Eric Kendricks, who's been one of the best linebackers,

1282
01:04:03,760 --> 01:04:06,040
Speaker 1: middle linebackers and the leaders in the NFL for the

1283
01:04:06,120 --> 01:04:08,800
Speaker 1: last ten years. And it's like, no, give me, give

1284
01:04:08,840 --> 01:04:10,800
Speaker 1: me number twenty five, give me give me Junior Colson.

1285
01:04:10,840 --> 01:04:13,680
Speaker 1: That's who I'd like to see leading a team with

1286
01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:17,320
Speaker 1: Derwin James, Joey Bosa and Khalil Mack on the same

1287
01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:19,880
Speaker 1: field as him when the when they take the snap,

1288
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:22,600
Speaker 1: I want that guy to lead that unit. Like that's

1289
01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:25,640
Speaker 1: how exceptional a player they got at that position. And

1290
01:04:25,960 --> 01:04:28,600
Speaker 1: the idea that that that that the other side of

1291
01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:30,320
Speaker 1: that is, you know, the other side of the ball

1292
01:04:30,840 --> 01:04:33,840
Speaker 1: that now well you can only run left. The right

1293
01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:36,000
Speaker 1: side just has not been able to open any holes.

1294
01:04:36,120 --> 01:04:38,640
Speaker 1: And now every defense is just loading up on the

1295
01:04:38,720 --> 01:04:40,600
Speaker 1: left side because they know that's the only side you

1296
01:04:40,640 --> 01:04:42,360
Speaker 1: can run behind. So now you can't run the ball.

1297
01:04:42,440 --> 01:04:45,400
Speaker 1: The idea that you're going to have those two guys

1298
01:04:45,520 --> 01:04:48,680
Speaker 1: Slater and Alt is just complete dogs set in the

1299
01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:52,360
Speaker 1: tone on that side, you know, as tackles and the

1300
01:04:52,480 --> 01:04:54,800
Speaker 1: ability to run the football now with and we haven't

1301
01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:58,640
Speaker 1: even we barely talked about JK. Dobbins and just what

1302
01:04:58,800 --> 01:05:00,800
Speaker 1: I think that has the potential to be that that

1303
01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:02,960
Speaker 1: it could be a Gus Edwards JK. Dobbins if his

1304
01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:06,960
Speaker 1: injuries are right, Holy Kyle, talk about a pair of runners.

1305
01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:09,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, telling you, man, comeback player of the Year. That's

1306
01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:11,480
Speaker 2: he's got that, he's got that in him.

1307
01:05:11,880 --> 01:05:13,720
Speaker 1: They'll have the opportunities if they want to give him

1308
01:05:13,720 --> 01:05:16,320
Speaker 1: to him, no doubt uh, you.

1309
01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:18,080
Speaker 2: Know this will be for another podcast, but just I

1310
01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:21,080
Speaker 2: think about the class last year and the impact that

1311
01:05:21,160 --> 01:05:23,200
Speaker 2: those guys could make that we really didn't see last year,

1312
01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:26,040
Speaker 2: Big Fadden and and Henley, you know, talk about j T.

1313
01:05:26,120 --> 01:05:28,440
Speaker 2: Woods for a couple of years ago, like these are

1314
01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:32,320
Speaker 2: the players that you hope Jesse Mitzer and and Jim

1315
01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:35,760
Speaker 2: Harball can get the most out of two So like,

1316
01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:38,400
Speaker 2: you know, a lot of young guys Quentin Johnson of course,

1317
01:05:38,520 --> 01:05:41,120
Speaker 2: like who didn't contribute in the way that maybe we

1318
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:45,680
Speaker 2: envisioned last year. They have an opportunity with this new

1319
01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:48,280
Speaker 2: regime to to make an impact to money.

1320
01:05:49,320 --> 01:05:51,960
Speaker 1: I'm so they didn't have. I'm okay, let me go

1321
01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:54,200
Speaker 1: back to Keenan's year, because I think Junior Colson has

1322
01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:56,960
Speaker 1: a chance to be the best third round pick since

1323
01:05:57,080 --> 01:05:59,240
Speaker 1: Keenan Allen and I don't think that's a stretch at all.

1324
01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:05,040
Speaker 1: So I'm even going to go before Keenan. What's another

1325
01:06:05,120 --> 01:06:10,760
Speaker 1: So Vincent Brown was pretty good? Okay, I'm trying to

1326
01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:17,200
Speaker 1: see here, who's the third? Nope? Nope, now who Charlie

1327
01:06:17,280 --> 01:06:20,840
Speaker 1: Whitehurst certainly not. I'm going through this Chargers. Okay, So

1328
01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:23,600
Speaker 1: let's say you got Keenan. Nick Hardwick was a third

1329
01:06:23,720 --> 01:06:26,680
Speaker 1: rounder in two thousand and four. So we're talking the

1330
01:06:26,800 --> 01:06:31,040
Speaker 1: last twenty years, right, You got Hardwicck, you got Keenan

1331
01:06:31,240 --> 01:06:35,080
Speaker 1: in twenty thirteen, and since then, your third round picks

1332
01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:40,760
Speaker 1: have been Chris Watt, Craig Mager, Max Turrek, Dan Feeney,

1333
01:06:41,560 --> 01:06:50,080
Speaker 1: Justin Jones, Trey Pipkins, Josh Palmer, JT. Woods, dayone Henley

1334
01:06:51,160 --> 01:06:53,480
Speaker 1: like those have been your thirds. You know, there's some

1335
01:06:53,560 --> 01:06:57,000
Speaker 1: good in there. There's two greats in there, and Keenan

1336
01:06:57,080 --> 01:07:00,760
Speaker 1: and Nick and some in place could get on the field,

1337
01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:05,200
Speaker 1: could never make an impact, like Junior Colson is who

1338
01:07:06,120 --> 01:07:08,360
Speaker 1: that's exciting. Now, that's that's something.

1339
01:07:09,200 --> 01:07:12,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, let's close it this way. I told

1340
01:07:12,800 --> 01:07:15,520
Speaker 2: you this was coming, uh, I was. Here's here's a

1341
01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:19,200
Speaker 2: specific ask Fundy to do another call of a letter

1342
01:07:19,400 --> 01:07:23,120
Speaker 2: Vidal touchdown, and I'm hoping Carl Laftis is involved once again.

1343
01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:26,640
Speaker 1: We are late in the fourth two and a half

1344
01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:31,040
Speaker 1: minutes left Chargers high red Zone trail by four at

1345
01:07:31,120 --> 01:07:34,280
Speaker 1: the twenty two of Pittsburgh. Crowd is on its feet,

1346
01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:37,960
Speaker 1: renegade blaring, of course, and exciting contest as both of

1347
01:07:38,040 --> 01:07:41,320
Speaker 1: these teams fighting for a playoff spot here in week thirteen.

1348
01:07:41,400 --> 01:07:43,640
Speaker 1: That's going to go a long way in terms of

1349
01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:45,920
Speaker 1: tie breakers should either of them end up in the

1350
01:07:45,960 --> 01:07:49,280
Speaker 1: wildcard despite fighting for the division title. We got an

1351
01:07:49,320 --> 01:07:51,840
Speaker 1: offset eye and it is Vidal who has been the

1352
01:07:51,960 --> 01:07:54,480
Speaker 1: hot hand in this one. Kind of been split carries

1353
01:07:54,520 --> 01:07:57,520
Speaker 1: for Edwards, Dobbins and Vidal, but he is on the

1354
01:07:57,560 --> 01:08:00,600
Speaker 1: field with this second and six, we get an offset.

1355
01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:02,760
Speaker 1: I've been Mason in front of him. Strength of the

1356
01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:05,680
Speaker 1: line is right distany outside of all and here's the

1357
01:08:05,800 --> 01:08:08,480
Speaker 1: snap and it's pitch right side, stretching it out at

1358
01:08:08,520 --> 01:08:11,360
Speaker 1: all alters in the next level. Patrick Queen gets cleaned

1359
01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:15,360
Speaker 1: out right sideline at all five into the end zone. Touchdown.

1360
01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:22,439
Speaker 1: Chargers take the lead by one. There we go.

1361
01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:24,920
Speaker 2: Patrick Queen got it.

1362
01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:29,840
Speaker 1: Patrick, Hey, you got his money. He's gonna get it.

1363
01:08:30,280 --> 01:08:33,360
Speaker 1: You got his funny. Uh, very well done. That works.

1364
01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:35,599
Speaker 1: That was in there. So there's a lot of time,

1365
01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:37,640
Speaker 1: a lot of time at the line of scrimmage they

1366
01:08:37,640 --> 01:08:39,720
Speaker 1: were trying to figure it out. I was able to

1367
01:08:39,720 --> 01:08:40,439
Speaker 1: get all that in there.

1368
01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:42,520
Speaker 2: It was a couple of delayed games.

1369
01:08:43,720 --> 01:08:45,840
Speaker 1: Games in there, A little bit, a little bit sorry,

1370
01:08:46,000 --> 01:08:47,000
Speaker 1: maybe get my head around it.

1371
01:08:47,520 --> 01:08:49,519
Speaker 2: We'll get a We'll get a lad Jet sweeping there

1372
01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:54,720
Speaker 2: at some point before before Ts are over. Uh, that's

1373
01:08:54,760 --> 01:08:55,120
Speaker 2: gonna do it.

1374
01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:55,320
Speaker 3: Man.

1375
01:08:55,360 --> 01:08:57,559
Speaker 1: Anything else about this draft, I think we covered it all.

1376
01:08:58,439 --> 01:09:01,120
Speaker 1: A good weekend for the Bolts, Yeah, no doubt. I

1377
01:09:01,160 --> 01:09:05,639
Speaker 1: think it speaks to the culture set from the new regime.

1378
01:09:06,080 --> 01:09:08,280
Speaker 1: All the picks you can see, Like we said, there's

1379
01:09:08,280 --> 01:09:11,439
Speaker 1: so many characteristics from them, either production traits and that's

1380
01:09:11,560 --> 01:09:15,519
Speaker 1: any team. But I think overcoming adversity, passion for football.

1381
01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:18,360
Speaker 1: And I'll finish with this, Chris, you know, beyond this class,

1382
01:09:18,800 --> 01:09:21,759
Speaker 1: I think it's clear that the Chargers have a distinct

1383
01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:25,200
Speaker 1: advantage over other teams right now because of the program

1384
01:09:25,280 --> 01:09:28,679
Speaker 1: that Jim Harbaugh comes from, the recruiting that they're able

1385
01:09:28,720 --> 01:09:32,080
Speaker 1: to do. They can recruit anyone nationally, so they're reaching

1386
01:09:32,160 --> 01:09:35,320
Speaker 1: out to players from all over the country. They're a

1387
01:09:35,479 --> 01:09:40,080
Speaker 1: national powerhouse. Not just build defense around our city and

1388
01:09:40,160 --> 01:09:42,240
Speaker 1: our state and let's get all the best players to

1389
01:09:42,280 --> 01:09:45,920
Speaker 1: play for Michigan. No, they recruit nationally and this is

1390
01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:47,639
Speaker 1: going to be a benefit for the next three years.

1391
01:09:47,880 --> 01:09:50,120
Speaker 1: You're talking about guys that are coming in freshmen that

1392
01:09:50,320 --> 01:09:52,559
Speaker 1: coach Harbaugh and his staff are recruiting in. So many

1393
01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:55,920
Speaker 1: of those assistant coaches are on this team as coaches.

1394
01:09:56,240 --> 01:09:58,960
Speaker 1: And it's not just guys from Michigan, but all the

1395
01:09:59,040 --> 01:10:01,560
Speaker 1: players that they have this scout that they faced in

1396
01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:04,799
Speaker 1: games and prepare for and right up Scot who reports

1397
01:10:04,840 --> 01:10:06,280
Speaker 1: on this is how we're going to attack this player.

1398
01:10:06,360 --> 01:10:07,640
Speaker 1: This is this is a player that's going to give

1399
01:10:07,720 --> 01:10:09,280
Speaker 1: us a problem. We got to make sure we account

1400
01:10:09,320 --> 01:10:11,680
Speaker 1: for that. Like, that's what they're going to get the

1401
01:10:11,720 --> 01:10:13,880
Speaker 1: benefit of. You know, someone like a boy Be to

1402
01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:16,760
Speaker 1: me comes to mind, where you're a team that wants

1403
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:19,640
Speaker 1: to run the ball, You're a team that's in the playoffs,

1404
01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:22,000
Speaker 1: and it's like, hey, who do we have to worry

1405
01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:24,479
Speaker 1: about that Dallas Turner? Yet? You gotta worry about Dallas

1406
01:10:24,520 --> 01:10:28,000
Speaker 1: Turner Terryan Oarnold Coolater great, but don't forget about a

1407
01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:30,920
Speaker 1: boy Be. This guy makes big plays in big moments.

1408
01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:34,960
Speaker 1: We cannot allow him to derail us in this game.

1409
01:10:35,040 --> 01:10:37,000
Speaker 1: Like those are the things that they're going to benefit

1410
01:10:37,080 --> 01:10:40,840
Speaker 1: from with this staff, not just Jim Harbaugh, but all

1411
01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:44,400
Speaker 1: the coaches that he brought in, who are expected to recruit,

1412
01:10:44,760 --> 01:10:47,760
Speaker 1: who are expected to advance scout, and that's going to

1413
01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:50,200
Speaker 1: pay dividends, not just in the twenty twenty four draft,

1414
01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:53,160
Speaker 1: but probably in the next two to three at least

1415
01:10:53,760 --> 01:10:57,840
Speaker 1: because of their familiarity with these guys. Money.

1416
01:10:57,920 --> 01:11:01,439
Speaker 2: It's it's late April, and I hate to do like

1417
01:11:01,640 --> 01:11:04,760
Speaker 2: prisoner of the moment stuff, but just the juice in

1418
01:11:04,840 --> 01:11:08,200
Speaker 2: the bounts that I think fans have with Jim Harball here,

1419
01:11:08,360 --> 01:11:08,920
Speaker 2: it's different.

1420
01:11:09,000 --> 01:11:09,160
Speaker 1: Man.

1421
01:11:09,280 --> 01:11:12,720
Speaker 2: It is unlike anything I have ever ever seen since

1422
01:11:12,760 --> 01:11:15,360
Speaker 2: this team moved up to Los Angeles, and just the

1423
01:11:15,479 --> 01:11:19,040
Speaker 2: excitement level. I feel like fans feel like they're a

1424
01:11:19,080 --> 01:11:23,240
Speaker 2: part of it, and just watching the identity of this

1425
01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:26,680
Speaker 2: team takes shape the culture of this team. It has

1426
01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:28,320
Speaker 2: to be a thrill for you knowing that you're going

1427
01:11:28,400 --> 01:11:31,080
Speaker 2: to be calling games this year with Jim Harball as

1428
01:11:31,120 --> 01:11:31,639
Speaker 2: the head coach.

1429
01:11:32,160 --> 01:11:35,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I'm glad you mentioned that. So, yeah,

1430
01:11:35,520 --> 01:11:38,000
Speaker 1: this will be because as we're at past an hour

1431
01:11:38,040 --> 01:11:40,960
Speaker 1: and ten minutes now, this will be my last point.

1432
01:11:41,960 --> 01:11:44,320
Speaker 1: You hear it all the time, coaches say it, and

1433
01:11:44,840 --> 01:11:47,880
Speaker 1: too often it's lip service. Be your authentic self. These

1434
01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:50,439
Speaker 1: guys will see through it. There is no one more

1435
01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:54,200
Speaker 1: authentic in the NFL than Jim Harball. Guy's wearing a

1436
01:11:54,360 --> 01:11:57,600
Speaker 1: plaid shirt with a plaid suit jacket, no gel. His

1437
01:11:57,760 --> 01:12:00,879
Speaker 1: hair is all weird looking. When he's doing press conference,

1438
01:12:00,920 --> 01:12:02,960
Speaker 1: he gets out, he meets Joe All he's got these

1439
01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:05,720
Speaker 1: goofy looking pants on them. He's pulling them up and

1440
01:12:06,280 --> 01:12:08,439
Speaker 1: you know, and he's grabbing John and Joe and like, hey,

1441
01:12:08,520 --> 01:12:12,160
Speaker 1: let's do a hype test. He's just so authentic and

1442
01:12:12,360 --> 01:12:16,160
Speaker 1: the energy is so authentic and just the excitement you

1443
01:12:16,280 --> 01:12:21,200
Speaker 1: can feel it. It's like it's not manufacturer, It's just

1444
01:12:21,400 --> 01:12:24,600
Speaker 1: it's all train of thought and it just comes to

1445
01:12:24,760 --> 01:12:27,960
Speaker 1: him like that, What is is that? Do I hear

1446
01:12:27,960 --> 01:12:29,080
Speaker 1: people in the room. You got a lot of people

1447
01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:31,040
Speaker 1: in the room. Is that what I'm hearing in the background? Yeah? Yeah,

1448
01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:32,759
Speaker 1: I gotta I got a house package. Well are they excited?

1449
01:12:32,840 --> 01:12:35,640
Speaker 1: Let me hear him like it's all authentic, And I

1450
01:12:35,760 --> 01:12:39,600
Speaker 1: think that's that's they They say it, coaches say it

1451
01:12:39,640 --> 01:12:41,960
Speaker 1: all the time. You have got to be authentic. You

1452
01:12:42,120 --> 01:12:45,479
Speaker 1: cannot pretend to be somebody you're not and try to

1453
01:12:45,560 --> 01:12:48,080
Speaker 1: be this. I'm gonna throw the desk through the wall, guy,

1454
01:12:48,280 --> 01:12:51,280
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna, you know, dog, cush you if that's

1455
01:12:51,360 --> 01:12:55,120
Speaker 1: not you. And that's why Philip Rivers is so beloved

1456
01:12:55,200 --> 01:12:57,479
Speaker 1: by this fan base because he was his authentic self

1457
01:12:57,520 --> 01:13:00,160
Speaker 1: and he never allowed anybody to change him. And that's

1458
01:13:00,240 --> 01:13:03,400
Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh. He is he is is author himself man,

1459
01:13:03,479 --> 01:13:07,320
Speaker 1: and he is different than anybody else. And it's it's awesome.

1460
01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:08,800
Speaker 1: It is awesome to have.

1461
01:13:09,680 --> 01:13:13,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, uh we're thrilled for the fans and thrill for

1462
01:13:13,240 --> 01:13:15,040
Speaker 2: us that you get to cover a guy like Jim

1463
01:13:15,080 --> 01:13:18,320
Speaker 2: Harriball who's won at every level. And uh, I feel

1464
01:13:18,360 --> 01:13:21,599
Speaker 2: like he's got a lot to prove. And this staff

1465
01:13:21,880 --> 01:13:25,320
Speaker 2: has really come in with this like home focus of Okay,

1466
01:13:25,400 --> 01:13:28,840
Speaker 2: we're we're coming, like we're we're coming for the AFC West.

1467
01:13:28,880 --> 01:13:30,760
Speaker 2: We're coming for the AFC. I don't know how long

1468
01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:33,320
Speaker 2: it's gonna take money, but enjoy the ride if you're

1469
01:13:33,320 --> 01:13:33,799
Speaker 2: in Chargers.

1470
01:13:33,960 --> 01:13:36,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the key. Enjoy the ride. He's a football guy.

1471
01:13:36,880 --> 01:13:39,920
Speaker 1: He loves This guy is a competitor and he loves

1472
01:13:39,960 --> 01:13:42,400
Speaker 1: football and that's what he wants to do. He wants

1473
01:13:42,439 --> 01:13:44,720
Speaker 1: to coach football. He wants to get these guys to

1474
01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:45,800
Speaker 1: be the best they can be, and he wants to

1475
01:13:45,840 --> 01:13:47,960
Speaker 1: compete and he wants to dominate. And that's you can

1476
01:13:48,040 --> 01:13:50,960
Speaker 1: just see it that's what he's all about. Football, football, football, football,

1477
01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:55,040
Speaker 1: and and that's it's gonna be exciting. It's it's gonna

1478
01:13:55,040 --> 01:13:56,040
Speaker 1: be and we'll be doing this, you know, in a

1479
01:13:56,080 --> 01:13:57,920
Speaker 1: couple of weeks talking rookie camp. So cannot wait to

1480
01:13:57,920 --> 01:13:59,240
Speaker 1: get that going. Yep.

1481
01:13:59,439 --> 01:14:02,160
Speaker 2: Uh, thanks for hanging with us all weekend, guys for money,

1482
01:14:02,160 --> 01:14:05,160
Speaker 2: I'm Chris. This has been charges weekly. Uh, we'll see

1483
01:14:05,200 --> 01:14:07,640
Speaker 2: you this upcoming Thursday. I'm sure we have some some

1484
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Speaker 2: surprises up our sleeve in this upcoming podcast, but appreciate

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Speaker 2: you guys listening. We'll see you next week.