WEBVTT - Pluribus | Episodes 1 & 2 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:03.600 Warning. Today's episode contains spoilers for the new Vince Gilligan 0:00:03.760 --> 0:00:07.040 sci fi show on Apple TV, plus Pluribus episodes one 0:00:07.040 --> 0:00:07.360 and two. 0:00:07.520 --> 0:00:24.720 You won't Hello. 0:00:25.040 --> 0:00:26.440 My name is Jason Kntepsion. 0:00:26.920 --> 0:00:29.120 Hello, I'm Rosy night, and welcome back to. 0:00:29.080 --> 0:00:30.920 Extra Vision of the podcast where we dive you but to 0:00:30.920 --> 0:00:32.720 your favorite shows, movies, comics of pop culture. 0:00:32.760 --> 0:00:34.519 Coming to you from My Heart Podcast. We'll bring you 0:00:35.080 --> 0:00:37.720 three episodes a weeks listeners. 0:00:37.960 --> 0:00:41.520 In today's episode, we talked about it with former Rolling 0:00:41.560 --> 0:00:44.400 Stone critic Alan Sepenwall. We tease that a little bit, 0:00:44.479 --> 0:00:47.560 but now we're able to dig fully into the absolutely 0:00:47.840 --> 0:00:54.000 wild Pluribus episodes one and two on Apple TV. Now, guys, 0:00:54.160 --> 0:00:58.480 just before we jump into that super crazy, unexpected pilot, 0:00:59.120 --> 0:01:01.960 a quick production this holiday season, we are going to 0:01:02.040 --> 0:01:05.240 be sharing some short stocking stuff for episodes with you. 0:01:05.680 --> 0:01:07.840 With so many great shows and movies coming out these 0:01:07.840 --> 0:01:10.039 next few months, these episodes will help us cover some 0:01:10.160 --> 0:01:12.839 extra content we wouldn't usually be able to get onto 0:01:13.200 --> 0:01:15.800 on our normal episodes, So stay tuned for our stocking 0:01:15.800 --> 0:01:17.840 stuff as starting the week of Thanksgiving. 0:01:19.000 --> 0:01:26.320 But first, Glory of bus I'm one too. The pilot 0:01:26.400 --> 0:01:31.720 opens with a counter showing that it is some four 0:01:31.800 --> 0:01:34.679 hundred and fifty plus days before the beginning of the 0:01:34.680 --> 0:01:37.880 actual show, so over a year before the events that 0:01:37.959 --> 0:01:44.280 we will see. Scientists discover that there's a message that's 0:01:44.319 --> 0:01:48.040 been beamed in the direction of Earth, and it's been 0:01:48.080 --> 0:01:51.960 going for an unknown amount of time. It's coming from 0:01:52.000 --> 0:01:57.960 six hundred light years away, and it certainly seems intelligent 0:01:58.240 --> 0:02:01.600 in origin, and everybody's very interested in this. When they 0:02:01.640 --> 0:02:04.680 discover it, one thing leads to another. It turns out 0:02:04.680 --> 0:02:10.760 that this message is divided into four parts, and each part, 0:02:11.400 --> 0:02:16.399 a guy figures out, is a representative of one of 0:02:16.440 --> 0:02:20.799 the protein ingredients for DNA, So it turns out to 0:02:20.800 --> 0:02:24.000 be a recipe for like an RNA strand, a strand 0:02:24.040 --> 0:02:27.080 of protein. Fast forward about a year later after this, 0:02:27.760 --> 0:02:31.440 but approximately fifty days or something like that before the 0:02:31.480 --> 0:02:34.880 events of the show. Military doctors at the United States 0:02:35.040 --> 0:02:39.120 Army Military Research Intelligence Division, I think that's correct, you, 0:02:39.200 --> 0:02:43.440 sam Rid, which I know about because of Stephen King's 0:02:43.440 --> 0:02:49.760 the stand have succeeded in creating this recipe which infectious 0:02:49.800 --> 0:02:54.680 diseases to get United States Army Military Research infectious diseases 0:02:55.080 --> 0:03:00.280 something and thank you. Ian super producer ian. So they 0:03:00.280 --> 0:03:02.680 make this protein, which is. 0:03:02.639 --> 0:03:03.320 That a good idea? 0:03:03.360 --> 0:03:03.960 But they make it. 0:03:04.040 --> 0:03:06.080 I feel like it's not a good idea, Like, let's 0:03:06.080 --> 0:03:08.600 be real happen. 0:03:09.400 --> 0:03:11.679 Yeah, they would definitely make it, and they're trying to 0:03:11.720 --> 0:03:13.799 be I guess as safe as possible. They're making it. 0:03:14.400 --> 0:03:16.760 They've been trying it out on animals, but they don't 0:03:16.880 --> 0:03:18.440 see like any. 0:03:18.960 --> 0:03:20.320 Effects at all. Like you. 0:03:20.360 --> 0:03:23.560 They're injecting into different species, but nothing's happening. And they 0:03:23.560 --> 0:03:27.160 have this big bank of like rats, and there's these 0:03:27.160 --> 0:03:30.160 two doctors in there doing the day's tasks with you know, 0:03:30.240 --> 0:03:33.960 injecting this protein and seeing what happens. And they notice 0:03:34.000 --> 0:03:36.800 that one of the rats is dead, and so they 0:03:36.880 --> 0:03:39.520 take it out and they're looking at it and it's 0:03:39.600 --> 0:03:41.400 like the heart is pumping really strong, but it's just 0:03:41.440 --> 0:03:45.200 like stunned. And this doctor takes off their gloves so 0:03:45.240 --> 0:03:47.240 they can feel the pulse of the rat, which I 0:03:47.280 --> 0:03:49.440 feel like, there's got to be a better way to 0:03:49.520 --> 0:03:52.120 do it. But whatever, take off the gloves, I fail. 0:03:52.280 --> 0:03:54.840 Never take off the glove. The rat bites the person 0:03:55.520 --> 0:04:00.840 and the virus has entered the human population. This doctor 0:04:00.920 --> 0:04:04.520 quickly goes about infecting the doctor that she is in 0:04:04.520 --> 0:04:07.760 the lab with and infecting, and they both go about 0:04:07.840 --> 0:04:11.840 infecting people throughout the facility, and very very quickly the 0:04:11.840 --> 0:04:15.760 facility falls like within a night or so easily easily, 0:04:16.160 --> 0:04:19.800 and all the people who have been infected are now 0:04:19.960 --> 0:04:22.680 like working together part of a hive mind, we will discover, 0:04:23.240 --> 0:04:27.320 so sharing a kind of consciousness, and they begin working 0:04:27.360 --> 0:04:31.240 together happily to like box up the samples of this 0:04:31.440 --> 0:04:35.960 protein and begin mailing it to different labs across the 0:04:36.400 --> 0:04:39.200 military labs we will later find out an episode two, 0:04:39.800 --> 0:04:44.480 and also like licking the doughnuts down in the lobby 0:04:44.640 --> 0:04:46.920 so that everybody who comes in and you know, including 0:04:46.920 --> 0:04:50.640 people who were at work today, will eventually become infected. 0:04:51.400 --> 0:04:56.320 And as this is going on, we meet author Carol 0:04:56.400 --> 0:04:59.200 Stirka in the midst of a book tour. She's kind 0:04:59.200 --> 0:05:03.760 of like like a down market Diana Galbadon. 0:05:04.240 --> 0:05:06.640 Yeah, I was gonna say, it's it's big like Apple 0:05:07.240 --> 0:05:08.960 book energy kind of. 0:05:08.960 --> 0:05:10.200 But not the top shelf. 0:05:10.240 --> 0:05:12.640 As no, no, no, this is this is the low 0:05:13.160 --> 0:05:15.320 If you sold out a fourth wing, this is what 0:05:15.400 --> 0:05:16.160 you pick up next. 0:05:17.279 --> 0:05:22.960 Right, she is like below Diana Galbadon below Sarah J. 0:05:23.160 --> 0:05:26.760 Moss. Oh, definitely she's like, you know, like thirtieth on 0:05:26.960 --> 0:05:28.320 the Chops. 0:05:28.360 --> 0:05:30.000 Right, Yeah, So. 0:05:31.680 --> 0:05:35.200 Carol's fans are very ardent, and they're mostly like these 0:05:35.279 --> 0:05:42.600 kind of you know, like white, very romance centric white ladies, 0:05:43.200 --> 0:05:49.560 with a few like very very very dedicated like nerds. 0:05:49.640 --> 0:05:53.160 And Carol's feelings about her work are clearly very complex. 0:05:53.200 --> 0:05:57.120 She doesn't think it's very artful or very like authentic 0:05:57.200 --> 0:06:00.560 to who she is as a creator, as an artist, 0:06:00.680 --> 0:06:06.360 but you know, it's work, and she's successful, and she's 0:06:06.360 --> 0:06:10.840 in a relationship with her manager, Helen, who is on 0:06:10.920 --> 0:06:15.640 tour with her, but also she is keeping that part 0:06:15.680 --> 0:06:18.600 of her life like deeply under wraps in order to 0:06:18.800 --> 0:06:23.520 keep selling books. Like the main romance in the books 0:06:23.600 --> 0:06:26.279 is it's a very it's a hetero romance with this 0:06:26.920 --> 0:06:30.880 kind of sexy figure known as Rabond. All these white 0:06:30.880 --> 0:06:36.000 women Rabon who all these ladies like love RoboN. But 0:06:37.200 --> 0:06:39.760 we're going to find out that originally Carol wanted Rabond 0:06:39.760 --> 0:06:41.480 to be a woman because that would be again more 0:06:41.480 --> 0:06:43.800 authentic to her, but then she decided not to and 0:06:44.160 --> 0:06:45.440 she feels like she's sold. 0:06:45.240 --> 0:06:45.920 Out because of this. 0:06:46.440 --> 0:06:49.479 About a week later, Carolyn Helen are returning from tour, 0:06:50.400 --> 0:06:54.039 Helen clearly has many dwi's on her record. Because she 0:06:54.080 --> 0:06:56.560 needs a breathalyzer to start her car. They stop at 0:06:56.560 --> 0:06:56.800 a bar. 0:06:56.920 --> 0:06:58.240 I had no idea this was the thing. 0:06:58.279 --> 0:06:59.960 By the way, until the show, it is a thing. 0:07:00.440 --> 0:07:02.720 It's a real thing. I like, it's a real thing. 0:07:03.320 --> 0:07:06.400 So they stop at a bar. They're discussing Carol's career, 0:07:06.440 --> 0:07:10.200 which again she's kind of like dissatisfied with. They notice 0:07:10.240 --> 0:07:14.560 outside that there's these planes flying overhead in perfect like 0:07:14.640 --> 0:07:18.600 parallel lines. Probably I'm guessing military planes that are dropping 0:07:18.640 --> 0:07:21.400 the virus like in aerosol form, like from the air, 0:07:21.960 --> 0:07:24.880 And very soon everybody begins falling sick, just like everybody 0:07:24.960 --> 0:07:26.320 in the Samurid facility. 0:07:26.360 --> 0:07:28.520 They like go into. 0:07:28.320 --> 0:07:30.640 This convulsion and then they come out as part of 0:07:30.680 --> 0:07:35.720 the hot mind. Helen, when she's becoming infected, falls and 0:07:35.800 --> 0:07:39.640 hits her head like really hard. She eventually dies of 0:07:39.800 --> 0:07:42.800 brain bleed. Carol is like trying to get her to 0:07:42.840 --> 0:07:44.960 the hospital, and every time she's trying to get to 0:07:45.000 --> 0:07:47.480 it's like a problem, one problem after another. She can't 0:07:47.480 --> 0:07:49.840 start the car because the breathalyser. She has to take 0:07:49.880 --> 0:07:53.840 another guy's car. She struggles Helen into the pickup truck. 0:07:53.920 --> 0:07:57.840 She gets there at the hospital, everybody's infected. A doctor 0:07:57.920 --> 0:08:00.920 tries to infect her by kissing her and very clearly 0:08:00.960 --> 0:08:03.880 doesn't work. Carol eventually ends up back home and has 0:08:03.880 --> 0:08:06.160 to leave Helen's body outside, and she turns on the 0:08:06.200 --> 0:08:10.480 TV is relieved to see a government emergency broadcast hosted 0:08:10.520 --> 0:08:13.720 by a guy who turns out as the under Secretary 0:08:13.760 --> 0:08:18.760 of Agriculture, like fifteenth down the bay whatever everyone else 0:08:18.840 --> 0:08:19.600 is somewhere else. 0:08:19.640 --> 0:08:21.600 As soon as I saw that, I was like, it's 0:08:21.680 --> 0:08:25.320 giving you know, designated leader or whatever that. 0:08:26.200 --> 0:08:30.280 So she's Carol is relieved that the government appears to 0:08:30.320 --> 0:08:33.800 be going, but then she's disturbed when she notices like 0:08:33.880 --> 0:08:37.640 all the graphics on the screen are addressing her by name, 0:08:37.800 --> 0:08:39.960 Like Caroll just calls everything that's gonna be okay. 0:08:40.559 --> 0:08:41.680 She calls the number. 0:08:42.360 --> 0:08:45.599 This guy, his name is Davis Tafler, the Undersecretary of 0:08:45.640 --> 0:08:50.320 agg and he addresses her like in the broadcast, addresses 0:08:50.360 --> 0:08:52.560 her phone call like he's listening to her, and he's like, listen, 0:08:53.640 --> 0:08:56.920 sorry about everything that's happening, So sorry about Helen, Sorry about. 0:08:56.720 --> 0:08:57.560 Everybody that's died. 0:08:58.800 --> 0:09:04.240 Long story short, like this alien broadcast, you know, was 0:09:04.280 --> 0:09:07.120 a recipe for a virus, and we're all infected with 0:09:07.160 --> 0:09:09.400 the virus and now we're very happy because we're all 0:09:09.440 --> 0:09:13.040 like this unified hive mind. And by the way, anything 0:09:13.080 --> 0:09:17.040 you need like food, medicine, whatever, Like we want this 0:09:17.080 --> 0:09:20.040 to be as comfortable and peacefullow transition transition for you 0:09:20.080 --> 0:09:22.720 as possible, Like don't whatever you want to do, you 0:09:22.760 --> 0:09:25.520 can do, but like we suggest you don't wander around 0:09:25.559 --> 0:09:28.040 too much because we're cleaning up all the dead bodies. 0:09:27.679 --> 0:09:28.559 In the streets. 0:09:29.160 --> 0:09:33.240 And we're so sorry about this, but like everything's gonna 0:09:33.240 --> 0:09:35.240 be fine after this, peace on Earth, the whole thing. 0:09:35.840 --> 0:09:38.120 And where's the president. 0:09:38.160 --> 0:09:42.760 The president unfortunately passed away during the transition, along with 0:09:42.880 --> 0:09:46.920 many other high ranking members of your government. But you 0:09:47.160 --> 0:09:51.199 are immune for some reason. We're studying it, and there's 0:09:51.240 --> 0:09:54.000 twelve other people that are immune just like you, and 0:09:54.040 --> 0:09:55.080 we're going to figure that out. 0:09:55.240 --> 0:09:55.560 Okay. 0:09:56.440 --> 0:10:00.520 And Carol like flips out and hangs up, as Davis 0:10:00.640 --> 0:10:02.239 is like on the TV being like Carol. 0:10:02.040 --> 0:10:02.679 Carol'll pick up. 0:10:02.679 --> 0:10:04.040 We just want to talk to you, Carroll pick up. 0:10:04.520 --> 0:10:05.360 That is a pilot. 0:10:06.000 --> 0:10:11.760 I wassilarly Bunker's pilot so well, mockted. I've had so 0:10:11.840 --> 0:10:13.760 many messages about this pilot. 0:10:14.480 --> 0:10:17.280 Quite intriguing. My wife, who's not a sci fi person, 0:10:17.360 --> 0:10:19.520 was into it. Let's go to a quick break. We'll 0:10:19.559 --> 0:10:22.199 come back recap episode two and then talk about our 0:10:22.240 --> 0:10:36.640 thoughts about this show so much. Pluribus Episode two, The 0:10:36.760 --> 0:10:41.560 Hive and the Body. We open in Tangiers, over in 0:10:41.640 --> 0:10:47.160 the North Africa, and you know, it's the same issue everywhere, 0:10:48.320 --> 0:10:51.120 not going great. You know, stuff's on fire, but the 0:10:51.200 --> 0:10:54.720 Hive Mind people are putting you know, putting out the 0:10:54.760 --> 0:10:57.480 fires and collecting the dead bodies, of which there are 0:10:57.480 --> 0:10:59.959 a lot. We see this woman who we will eventually 0:11:00.480 --> 0:11:02.880 learned his named Zosia, although does that really matter in 0:11:02.960 --> 0:11:05.000 this time when they all have the High Mind. 0:11:05.480 --> 0:11:07.040 Is helping clear corpses. 0:11:07.559 --> 0:11:10.160 And then she hops on a plane to go to Albuquerque, 0:11:10.160 --> 0:11:13.520 where Vince Gillian loves to set all his shows, and 0:11:14.240 --> 0:11:18.160 she goes basically to meet Carol. Carol is at home 0:11:18.200 --> 0:11:20.760 in New Mexico, and she's like burying Helen, trying to bury, 0:11:20.920 --> 0:11:24.120 digging grave, trying to bury Helen in the backyard. Very 0:11:24.200 --> 0:11:28.560 earth is very hard. It's a very difficult go of it. 0:11:28.880 --> 0:11:32.640 And in the middle of all this, Zosha appears cleaned up, 0:11:34.040 --> 0:11:36.280 you know, she having taken a shower at the airport, 0:11:36.480 --> 0:11:39.960 basically saying, hey, I'm from the Hive Mind. How are 0:11:40.000 --> 0:11:43.520 you and do you need any water? We're worried about 0:11:43.559 --> 0:11:48.880 your about your hydration. I am every medical doctor on earth, 0:11:49.000 --> 0:11:50.400 and I can look at you and I can tell 0:11:50.400 --> 0:11:51.400 you're dehydrated. 0:11:52.040 --> 0:11:53.400 Also, you've been watching. 0:11:53.080 --> 0:11:56.200 You from a from a reaper drone high above, high 0:11:56.240 --> 0:11:58.480 above your house, just to make sure if you're okay. 0:11:59.160 --> 0:12:03.120 Carol throws away the water bottle, believing I, you know, 0:12:03.920 --> 0:12:06.600 I get it, believing that perhaps it's poisoned. 0:12:06.240 --> 0:12:08.520 Or never have found. 0:12:10.559 --> 0:12:14.640 She. Carol notices something about Zosha, and that is that 0:12:14.760 --> 0:12:19.280 clearly the Hive Mind selected her because she very much 0:12:19.400 --> 0:12:21.719 resembles She goes inside and gets a copy of her 0:12:21.800 --> 0:12:25.600 latest book from inside, brings it out, holds it up 0:12:25.600 --> 0:12:29.480 to Zosha, and it's very clear that Zosha was selected 0:12:29.559 --> 0:12:36.599 because she looks very much like a female version of Rabond. 0:12:37.240 --> 0:12:38.880 Something only Carol knew. 0:12:39.040 --> 0:12:45.080 Wickero novels right, only Carol, only Helen. Only Carol knows currently. 0:12:45.400 --> 0:12:49.720 But Helen knew before she died, of course, that Carol 0:12:49.760 --> 0:12:53.400 wanted Rabond to be a woman and struggled with that 0:12:53.440 --> 0:12:56.120 for a while, and here is you know, the visual 0:12:56.160 --> 0:13:00.480 representation of female rabond Zsha is like, by the way, 0:13:00.559 --> 0:13:04.480 Helen is very happy with us. She was only alive 0:13:04.760 --> 0:13:08.240 for a few moments during the transition, but in those moments, 0:13:09.360 --> 0:13:11.760 and if you recall in the pilot, you see her 0:13:11.840 --> 0:13:17.160 smile in these final as she's passing away, and in 0:13:17.200 --> 0:13:20.679 the moment I read it as she sees Carol and 0:13:21.480 --> 0:13:24.240 is able to pass away peacefully because she's seen the 0:13:24.240 --> 0:13:27.960 person she loves. But what probably happened is she was 0:13:28.040 --> 0:13:30.880 finding peace and satisfaction as a member of the Hive 0:13:30.920 --> 0:13:37.160 Mind collective. And Carol is so mad at this. She 0:13:37.200 --> 0:13:41.199 tells Zoshita fuck off, and she's so angry. And you aliens, 0:13:41.240 --> 0:13:45.319 you motherfucker? Is this that and the other? And her anger, 0:13:45.600 --> 0:13:48.199 we discover in this moment, has the ability to short 0:13:48.200 --> 0:13:51.960 circuit people infected with the virus, and not just like 0:13:52.040 --> 0:13:58.160 one of them, the entire biomass of infected humans on 0:13:58.240 --> 0:14:03.120 the planet, the Hive Mind, that's like four We find 0:14:03.120 --> 0:14:05.640 out that they've about a billion let's round it up 0:14:05.679 --> 0:14:07.520 to a billion people have died, but like eight hundred 0:14:07.559 --> 0:14:10.920 million died in the initial transition. So there's like four 0:14:11.120 --> 0:14:13.880 whatever it is, five billion people like on Earth, and 0:14:13.920 --> 0:14:20.600 they all collapse because Carol's never frozen. Yes, Carol realizes 0:14:20.760 --> 0:14:22.840 that she had some kind of hand in this, and 0:14:22.880 --> 0:14:25.480 as she's driving across town, realizes that like all the 0:14:25.520 --> 0:14:29.360 people that she sees are having this convulsion. She's trying 0:14:29.400 --> 0:14:31.200 to save people's lives. She trying to get a guy 0:14:31.280 --> 0:14:35.320 down from like a cherry picker, and it's just it's 0:14:35.400 --> 0:14:38.800 just stressful and exhausting. But when they come back, it's fine, 0:14:38.840 --> 0:14:41.080 everything's fine. They're not mad at her. They just go 0:14:41.160 --> 0:14:47.040 about their peaceful, weird, hive mind lives. Zosha is gone, 0:14:47.960 --> 0:14:50.880 and Carol, exhausted, calls the numbers she saw on TV, 0:14:51.080 --> 0:14:54.120 which you know, basically gives the High Mind permission for 0:14:54.160 --> 0:14:56.520 them to retrieve her. Zosha comes back and is like, listen, 0:14:56.680 --> 0:15:01.120 you accidentally killed a few a few people, maybe how many, 0:15:01.160 --> 0:15:04.840 I don't know, like a couple of million, millions, Like 0:15:05.200 --> 0:15:07.200 we find out I think the number is eleven. Yeah, 0:15:07.240 --> 0:15:13.240 in this episode, So that's really troubling. That's very disturbing. 0:15:14.360 --> 0:15:17.760 Carol is horrified, but also chastened now kind of realizing 0:15:17.800 --> 0:15:20.120 like I need to get at this is all so 0:15:20.160 --> 0:15:22.480 stressful and traumatic, but I got to get a grip. 0:15:23.400 --> 0:15:26.120 She wants to finish Helen's grave by herself, but Sosha's like, 0:15:26.160 --> 0:15:28.720 let us help you, and she brings in like this 0:15:29.320 --> 0:15:33.440 fucking earth mover to dig up the soil and try 0:15:33.520 --> 0:15:36.359 and like, and they bring in by helicopter. It's incredible. 0:15:37.840 --> 0:15:42.240 All the resources of earth basically are at Carol's disposal 0:15:42.280 --> 0:15:46.240 if she should so want it. That night, Carol is like, well, 0:15:46.600 --> 0:15:49.480 I heard that there's the other uninfected. I would like 0:15:49.520 --> 0:15:53.400 to speak to them, the twelve of them. Zosha flies 0:15:53.680 --> 0:15:57.560 Carol to bill Bao in Spain, and Carol meets four 0:15:57.600 --> 0:16:00.080 of them there, each from a different country, along with 0:16:00.120 --> 0:16:04.000 their families, each traveling with you know, their love. Their 0:16:04.000 --> 0:16:06.040 loved ones are now part of the collective, but like 0:16:06.080 --> 0:16:10.880 they clearly it makes the uninfected happy to have them around. 0:16:11.520 --> 0:16:16.280 And then the fifth survivor shows up, Diabate from Mauritania, 0:16:16.320 --> 0:16:19.760 and mister Diabate, a very elegant French speaking man, comes 0:16:19.880 --> 0:16:22.920 onboard Air Force one and he's late because he was like, well, 0:16:22.920 --> 0:16:24.240 I'm gonna make the trip, but I'm going to make 0:16:24.240 --> 0:16:27.280 the trip in Air Force one and he's there with 0:16:27.320 --> 0:16:30.400 this harem of beautiful women and he's drinking champagne and 0:16:30.400 --> 0:16:32.560 he's very, very happy with the way things have turned. 0:16:32.360 --> 0:16:33.160 Out lately on Earth. 0:16:33.680 --> 0:16:37.840 They have lunch and they basically talk about like what's 0:16:37.920 --> 0:16:44.720 going on. Diabate is like Carol is clearly stridently against 0:16:44.840 --> 0:16:47.000 all of this, and she even says multiple times like 0:16:47.040 --> 0:16:49.320 we've seen this movie right, Invasion of the Body Snatchers, 0:16:49.400 --> 0:16:53.800 like bad, on and on and on, like this can't stand, 0:16:54.040 --> 0:16:58.080 Like this is whatever's going on here, it must be wrong. 0:16:58.800 --> 0:17:02.960 And Diabate is like, I don't know, like Earth at peace, 0:17:03.240 --> 0:17:07.400 no racism, I have Air Force one, I. 0:17:07.280 --> 0:17:10.439 Got horm beautiful, I got a hair all the time. 0:17:11.080 --> 0:17:15.720 Yeah, that love presumably to do whatever it is, like 0:17:15.760 --> 0:17:20.360 I'm asking for creepy, very very creepy. Carol pushes back, 0:17:20.359 --> 0:17:21.320 but it's not going well. 0:17:22.000 --> 0:17:22.119 Uh. 0:17:22.800 --> 0:17:27.520 Zosia says to Carol, listen, this is not this is 0:17:27.560 --> 0:17:31.359 not a violent It wasn't a violent takeover. It's just 0:17:31.720 --> 0:17:35.840 everybody is following a kind of biological protocol and everybody's 0:17:35.880 --> 0:17:38.920 like very happy the assimilation. We get more information about 0:17:38.920 --> 0:17:41.080 the assimilation. It turns out that the military kind of 0:17:41.119 --> 0:17:44.040 figured out somewhat sometime during the process like what was 0:17:44.119 --> 0:17:46.800 going on, which meant that the hive mind like had 0:17:46.840 --> 0:17:50.840 to escalate and go quickly and make sure that you know, 0:17:50.920 --> 0:17:55.159 the people in bunkers like underground and in space, like 0:17:55.200 --> 0:17:58.160 all those people were infected like in their early phases, 0:17:58.200 --> 0:18:01.400 so they wouldn't have any like wars or anything. And 0:18:02.480 --> 0:18:04.800 we get the number eight hundred and eighty six million 0:18:05.080 --> 0:18:07.560 dead in the transition and an eleven million gone after 0:18:07.640 --> 0:18:12.639 Carol's freaked out the first time, and unfortunately, Carol freaks 0:18:12.640 --> 0:18:19.840 out again because all the survivors are at best just 0:18:19.920 --> 0:18:23.720 kind of like rolling with it, and at worst either 0:18:24.320 --> 0:18:30.440 like diabaatee, like fully on board with it or kind 0:18:30.480 --> 0:18:36.960 of blinding themselves to what really is. And so Carol 0:18:37.080 --> 0:18:39.960 screams in the midst of dinner she's drinking like mad, 0:18:40.000 --> 0:18:42.360 like she needs to get that out very clearly. She's 0:18:42.400 --> 0:18:46.560 an alcoholic, right and this is not helping. But she flipped, 0:18:46.640 --> 0:18:48.879 she falls, and when the hive mind tries to like 0:18:49.080 --> 0:18:51.119 help her, she flips out like get away from me, 0:18:51.200 --> 0:18:54.440 don't touch me, and they all collapse. The entire high 0:18:54.480 --> 0:19:00.000 mind collapses once again, killing untold millions. By morning, it's 0:19:00.520 --> 0:19:07.480 it's only Diabate and Zosha. And Zosha's like, listen with 0:19:07.520 --> 0:19:12.119 your permission. Excuse me, Diabate says to Carol, listen with 0:19:12.200 --> 0:19:14.280 your permission. I would like to take Zosha with me. 0:19:14.840 --> 0:19:16.720 I've been talking to her all night, by the way, 0:19:17.119 --> 0:19:19.760 and I find her to be charming and beautiful, and 0:19:19.760 --> 0:19:21.639 I would love to add her to my harem. You 0:19:21.640 --> 0:19:24.359 don't even know her name. You've been calling her I 0:19:24.400 --> 0:19:26.280 forget what he she was calling her. 0:19:26.200 --> 0:19:28.520 Like she doesn't know what's going on. She's not doing 0:19:28.560 --> 0:19:32.000 like a good job connecting, and she wants to go. 0:19:32.119 --> 0:19:34.160 And then so Carol's like, well, let me talk to Zosha. 0:19:34.200 --> 0:19:37.200 And Zusha comes over and is like yeah, like I'm 0:19:38.119 --> 0:19:41.440 I'm happy to accompany him if you say it's okay, 0:19:41.520 --> 0:19:44.160 I don't want you. And then Carol is like, this 0:19:44.240 --> 0:19:46.159 is a very I thought this was very important. Carol's like, 0:19:46.200 --> 0:19:49.840 you decide. Susha's like, I can't decide because deciding would 0:19:49.840 --> 0:19:52.640 put you to in conflict. I would be disappointing one 0:19:52.680 --> 0:19:55.040 of you. And we learn through this that the hive 0:19:55.119 --> 0:19:59.360 mind really really cannot It's a lot like chat GPT. 0:20:00.000 --> 0:20:05.040 I tell you, it can't tell you like no or 0:20:05.400 --> 0:20:08.040 I don't like that it's always gonna be very It 0:20:08.119 --> 0:20:09.439 wants to please and. 0:20:10.480 --> 0:20:12.920 To use it more and to be more comfortable. 0:20:13.000 --> 0:20:16.960 Yes, So Carol's disgusted with this, and she's like, fly 0:20:17.040 --> 0:20:17.320 me home. 0:20:17.320 --> 0:20:17.800 I'm leaving. 0:20:17.840 --> 0:20:21.520 You can go with him. But she she locks eyes 0:20:21.600 --> 0:20:23.919 like through her plane window, like as she's leaving, she 0:20:23.960 --> 0:20:26.880 sees Zosha like boarding her first one. She locks eyes 0:20:26.920 --> 0:20:32.399 with her and decides, I'm stopping this. She runs in 0:20:32.400 --> 0:20:34.720 front of Air Force one, stops the plane and that's 0:20:34.760 --> 0:20:37.560 the end of episode two. Seek a quick break and 0:20:37.800 --> 0:20:54.280 come back. This fascinating show. Yeah, we're back. I love 0:20:54.320 --> 0:20:57.520 how mysterious Apple TV kept this because. 0:20:57.280 --> 0:20:59.879 They did the right thing. So many people of the 0:21:00.080 --> 0:21:02.679 meled me about this pilot because they had no idea. 0:21:03.080 --> 0:21:05.520 I think that was the right move because I think 0:21:07.320 --> 0:21:12.600 kind of allah severance. The more you would tell people, 0:21:12.640 --> 0:21:14.960 because there's so many tropes involved in this, right like 0:21:15.440 --> 0:21:19.520 the way that you would log line elevator pitch, this 0:21:19.640 --> 0:21:23.320 would basically reduce it to tropes. You know, there's an 0:21:23.320 --> 0:21:27.439 alien virus and people. Yeah I've mind and but but 0:21:27.720 --> 0:21:30.800 you know there's some people who are immune, and it 0:21:30.840 --> 0:21:33.520 would reduce the show to its parts in a way 0:21:33.520 --> 0:21:37.159 that I think would not do well to sell, like 0:21:37.240 --> 0:21:39.640 how interesting it is, and it really is a fascinating 0:21:39.760 --> 0:21:43.399 I was, I'm all in, what do you think? 0:21:43.680 --> 0:21:46.600 Yeah, I love this idea because something I think is 0:21:46.720 --> 0:21:52.199 so interesting is the essential kind of bass pitch is 0:21:52.280 --> 0:21:56.159 like what if the worst, most angriest person in the 0:21:56.160 --> 0:21:58.760 world had to save everyone from being happy? 0:21:58.920 --> 0:21:59.120 Right? 0:21:59.560 --> 0:22:03.679 But I love one Recijorn. She's a genius, so I 0:22:03.760 --> 0:22:06.159 love that. Vince was like, I'm definitely getting her the Emmy. 0:22:06.600 --> 0:22:09.920 But also there's just so much complexity in these first 0:22:09.960 --> 0:22:13.480 two episodes, this kind of wrinkle that he adds in, 0:22:13.520 --> 0:22:16.560 this insane, bombastic wrinkle of like, well, she can't be 0:22:16.720 --> 0:22:20.040 angry because that will kill people, So then that starts 0:22:20.080 --> 0:22:24.160 to become about her having to immediately change her behaviors. 0:22:24.520 --> 0:22:27.080 I also love something I've thought for a long time 0:22:27.280 --> 0:22:29.359 that had not been done properly in a kind of 0:22:29.480 --> 0:22:33.200 dystopian space is like, you know, we've gotten the comedy 0:22:33.280 --> 0:22:36.200 version of say a zombie land, where it's like I'm 0:22:36.240 --> 0:22:39.480 eating twinkies, I'm driving in a tank. But I've always 0:22:39.480 --> 0:22:42.280 felt like there's gonna be people in a situation like 0:22:42.320 --> 0:22:44.679 that who are flying Air Force one who are taking 0:22:44.760 --> 0:22:47.880 dates to the Eiffel empty Eiffel Tower and stuff like that. 0:22:48.160 --> 0:22:51.320 So I love that Vince and Apple went big enough 0:22:52.160 --> 0:22:55.480 that within the first two episodes you're in multiple countries 0:22:55.560 --> 0:22:57.719 and you feel like, Okay, well, yeah, this is what 0:22:57.760 --> 0:23:00.960 it would be like. You're not a bystander. You are 0:23:01.080 --> 0:23:04.000 essentially now the focus of the hive mind. Because there's 0:23:04.000 --> 0:23:06.960 only eleven of years. So the hive mind's job is 0:23:07.000 --> 0:23:09.720 to make you happy no matter what and make you 0:23:09.800 --> 0:23:12.920 ignore what's going on. AKA. When I was watching this 0:23:12.920 --> 0:23:17.520 this morning, rewatching it, it was I realized how much 0:23:17.520 --> 0:23:20.480 of a statement it obviously is on like social media 0:23:20.520 --> 0:23:23.440 and algorithms and stuff, and this kind of notion of 0:23:23.480 --> 0:23:26.560