WEBVTT - Episode 113 w/ Kareem "Biggs" Burke 0:00:11.800 --> 0:00:15.360 And it's drink chas, motherfucking podcast make some He's a 0:00:15.480 --> 0:00:18.239 legendary queen's rapper. He's like Green is your boy in 0:00:18.320 --> 0:00:21.920 o R. He's a Miami hippop pioneer. Up his dj 0:00:22.079 --> 0:00:24.400 E f N. Together they drink it up with some 0:00:24.480 --> 0:00:29.480 of the biggest players in the most professional unprofessional podcast 0:00:29.640 --> 0:00:32.760 and your number one sorts for drunk, fat drinks, motherfucking 0:00:32.760 --> 0:00:35.160 pod every day is New Year's Eve. That's like, it's 0:00:35.240 --> 0:00:45.720 time for drink chimps, drink up mother mother. He Hank 0:00:45.760 --> 0:00:48.760 set Green, Hope, your Savia, it's your boy and O R. 0:00:49.200 --> 0:00:51.360 What up is d j E f N And it 0:00:51.479 --> 0:01:00.840 just drink chats, motherfucking happy hour makes some. Not When 0:01:00.880 --> 0:01:05.080 you think about it and you think about independent regular labels, 0:01:05.080 --> 0:01:07.520 and you think about people who grind it from the 0:01:07.600 --> 0:01:12.000 bottom to the top, one of the first names you 0:01:12.080 --> 0:01:18.000 have to think about it's Kareem biggs Hofa. And the 0:01:18.080 --> 0:01:20.959 reason why you gotta think about it is because he 0:01:21.080 --> 0:01:22.959 was the guy on the front line. He was the 0:01:22.959 --> 0:01:26.400 guy who who who participated. He was the guy who 0:01:27.400 --> 0:01:31.800 made sure Rocket Feller was rocket Feller when Rocket Feller 0:01:32.000 --> 0:01:35.520 needed to be Rocket Feller. And if a case you 0:01:35.520 --> 0:01:38.720 don't understand who I'm talking about, we're talking about Kareem 0:01:39.040 --> 0:01:47.480 Biggs Burke make Some Mother and joining us as well 0:01:47.560 --> 0:01:52.000 because I asked him to participate. It's Mickey Benson. The 0:01:52.080 --> 0:01:54.600 case you guys don't know who Mickey Minson. He managed 0:01:54.640 --> 0:01:58.520 Fat Job, he managed Big Punt, and he's still managing 0:01:58.680 --> 0:02:08.240 Iced Tea, which means his money still long. So we're 0:02:08.240 --> 0:02:10.679 gonna take it from the top right now, right now, 0:02:12.880 --> 0:02:16.640 Uh drink Chance podcast. We we we a don't know 0:02:16.720 --> 0:02:19.800 hip hop. We recoppresent hip hop, and that's what we 0:02:19.840 --> 0:02:23.000 want to do. But the thing about it is one 0:02:23.040 --> 0:02:26.079 of the illest things I've ever seen in the hip 0:02:26.160 --> 0:02:30.840 hop was when Rocket Fella Rock wrapped the Buggy I bins. 0:02:31.320 --> 0:02:34.120 Right now at this time, for people that don't know, 0:02:34.160 --> 0:02:36.720 because everybody who got money, you're probably looking at me 0:02:36.760 --> 0:02:41.200 and saying the Buggy bins. You probably like that's nothing 0:02:41.280 --> 0:02:45.600 wrapping the buggy because that's the four thirty now. But 0:02:45.720 --> 0:02:49.919 back then, the Buggy I was like the g S 0:02:51.200 --> 0:02:57.680 four hundred last. So I just want to take it 0:02:57.720 --> 0:03:01.079 from that point. What made y'all say, let me take 0:03:01.120 --> 0:03:04.480 a luxury car because at this time, like like now 0:03:05.280 --> 0:03:09.080 a four or for for thirties, it's regular, right, But 0:03:09.200 --> 0:03:13.120 back then it was that was the S five D 0:03:13.280 --> 0:03:15.280 before the S five. I remember doing it. But it's 0:03:15.280 --> 0:03:18.320 funny because somebody just told me the story the other day. 0:03:19.120 --> 0:03:22.640 And what happened was because that was Dame's car, and 0:03:22.680 --> 0:03:25.440 then we found out that Foxy Brown had the same call. 0:03:25.560 --> 0:03:28.679 We started cutting them all. He's like, you got the 0:03:28.720 --> 0:03:35.560 same car as Foxy, took the car, wrapped it and 0:03:35.560 --> 0:03:43.800 then we put street. Fox's gonna kill me for this 0:03:44.480 --> 0:03:47.960 for some reason. This is I was going back to 0:03:47.960 --> 0:03:53.480 you withox but that's crazy. So so Dave actually had 0:03:53.560 --> 0:03:56.880 this car and then he found out that Fox had 0:03:56.920 --> 0:04:00.080 the call and it was like he's the CEO of 0:04:00.320 --> 0:04:04.480 ex artists. Yeah, that's what push him to wrap it. Yeah, 0:04:04.520 --> 0:04:09.720 so he's like making a street. Yeah, so now big 0:04:09.800 --> 0:04:12.760 This is a hundred year rumor, right, A hundred years 0:04:12.840 --> 0:04:16.599 rumor is the rocket Froller got started. There was money 0:04:16.680 --> 0:04:21.359 that was accolated, but the actual money that started Rocket 0:04:21.360 --> 0:04:24.600 Feller came from Biggs. Is that true. I've been hearing 0:04:24.600 --> 0:04:27.200 the same thing man for a long time. But my 0:04:27.320 --> 0:04:29.479 thing is, don't matter where it came from. A who 0:04:29.520 --> 0:04:32.200 put in equity, whether it's sweat equity or whatever. It is, 0:04:33.160 --> 0:04:35.760 us three coming together. It couldn't have happened any better, 0:04:35.839 --> 0:04:37.640 you know what I'm saying. And plus with us three, 0:04:38.279 --> 0:04:40.880 I think that was the trial fact that I made 0:04:40.920 --> 0:04:56.760 Rocket Feller. That's the greatest nigger. But we understand you 0:04:56.880 --> 0:05:03.040 just got off pro probation bag. Yeah, Federal, I'm gonna 0:05:03.080 --> 0:05:04.640 be honest with you. You used to use me as 0:05:04.680 --> 0:05:07.760 a guinea pig. Because you used to use you as 0:05:07.760 --> 0:05:12.080 a guinea piger. That's a fact. He was on probation correctly. Yeah, 0:05:12.360 --> 0:05:15.360 back then, and you will stop every two weeks like 0:05:15.400 --> 0:05:17.719 the end of the one. Yeah, and then you would 0:05:17.800 --> 0:05:21.719 just roll o big faith. Gary's in the middle, like, ok, 0:05:23.240 --> 0:05:26.160 I just really let let me face Gary, let me 0:05:26.720 --> 0:05:31.960 you you're man, give him give yeah, yeah, and something 0:05:32.240 --> 0:05:39.600 to be around down. It's good baby, it's something man. Heah. Man, 0:05:39.680 --> 0:05:43.360 y'all Nick has done gained up on us and I'm here, man, 0:05:43.560 --> 0:05:47.200 you know you know what's going on. What's going on? Man? 0:05:48.800 --> 0:05:51.640 You slip? They said your drink champs. I said that's 0:05:51.680 --> 0:05:54.000 what it was. No, they called me all day. I said, 0:05:54.040 --> 0:05:56.080 what's going on here? I'll call them to like, yeah, 0:05:56.080 --> 0:06:00.440 I'm gonna be come from no basically gonna say you 0:06:00.440 --> 0:06:04.840 got that panorama? Man, it's got the panoramas. Came home 0:06:05.240 --> 0:06:07.840 about six months, hit me, it's my boy. Keep play 0:06:07.920 --> 0:06:11.039 no games with the coffee seats. I thought he loved me. 0:06:12.600 --> 0:06:19.080 My bro ain't see him sense, not like the Rocket 0:06:19.080 --> 0:06:21.559 Fuller show downtown. We had a good time. It's boiled 0:06:21.640 --> 0:06:23.320 up with the panoramas. You know. He came home there 0:06:23.279 --> 0:06:25.120 a little time. You know. I told him when he 0:06:25.120 --> 0:06:27.719 went home, before he went to jail, I said, the 0:06:27.760 --> 0:06:29.760 word is you broke? He said, when I come home, 0:06:29.800 --> 0:06:33.360 I'm sure if I'm broken. I seen him about came 0:06:33.640 --> 0:06:36.200 pulled up in the PanAm with the coffee cake seats. 0:06:37.279 --> 0:06:42.520 I said, you're not playing no games man, man, man, 0:06:42.560 --> 0:06:52.000 what's going on? Yeah? Making up with Look, look, let 0:06:52.000 --> 0:06:53.719 me let me just let me just bring your ball, 0:06:53.920 --> 0:06:57.320 right because both of y'all like this, this is the boss, 0:06:57.640 --> 0:07:00.400 big time, big time boss, right my friend before the 0:07:00.400 --> 0:07:04.720 boss stop. Okay, you gotta relaxe. Don't say that's my friend. 0:07:04.720 --> 0:07:06.920 I gotta say that you could be the boy the 0:07:06.960 --> 0:07:08.800 boss because my friend too, was what I'm saying. I 0:07:09.040 --> 0:07:11.440 respect that. Okay, So let's take it from the beginning 0:07:11.600 --> 0:07:15.240 right at first, was you guys starting rock and fell 0:07:15.360 --> 0:07:17.680 up before you met home? Because I heard you on 0:07:17.840 --> 0:07:20.440 the UM what is it called the White Boy ship? 0:07:21.280 --> 0:07:24.960 Um crazy as you know right now? Yeah, the White 0:07:24.960 --> 0:07:27.040 Boy Yeah yeah, they it was a great it was 0:07:27.080 --> 0:07:29.840 a great show man. I I can't think that that's 0:07:29.880 --> 0:07:34.080 sad man found found And I was just trying to 0:07:34.360 --> 0:07:41.119 before no, no, because you know you went to before 0:07:41.200 --> 0:07:46.960 I did. They but listen, So what you were saying 0:07:47.160 --> 0:07:49.920 was was that you guys was trying to start a 0:07:49.960 --> 0:07:54.480 company prior to actually meet in jay Z right somewhat, 0:07:54.520 --> 0:07:57.880 well not on my end. My was just literally what 0:07:57.960 --> 0:08:00.440 I said. We used to drink every day. Bigs don't 0:08:00.440 --> 0:08:02.560 care about the music, basic even know about that ship business. 0:08:02.520 --> 0:08:04.880 Just a young dude with a bunch of money, had 0:08:04.880 --> 0:08:07.720 all type of cars, cheating, just like Coop. These were 0:08:07.760 --> 0:08:10.400 hanging out drinking every day. So before you revived, they 0:08:10.640 --> 0:08:14.720 just admitted that Biggs money um started Rocket Feller. Well, 0:08:14.760 --> 0:08:27.360 I have to admit that. Yeah, there's a boss, A 0:08:27.360 --> 0:08:31.560 lot of people say, but I didn't. I didn't look 0:08:31.560 --> 0:08:33.400 at Biggs like that because this big brother was my 0:08:33.440 --> 0:08:35.200 friend and he made me big face so we all 0:08:35.240 --> 0:08:38.080 got close. God bless Bob blah blah blah black. You know, 0:08:38.080 --> 0:08:40.560 he told me everything from the streets on. Biggs was 0:08:40.600 --> 0:08:42.760 a young dude. He just had a bunch of money. 0:08:42.760 --> 0:08:44.360 I don't wander where it was coming from. Dressed like 0:08:44.400 --> 0:08:46.040 a bum. Wo to talk about it? Would it be 0:08:46.120 --> 0:08:48.280 about it? He had a handle, he had money, dressed 0:08:48.280 --> 0:08:56.640 like a bumb BIG's my life a long time ago. Man, 0:08:58.559 --> 0:09:00.719 say Tims were the white should I want to go 0:09:00.760 --> 0:09:02.480 too far? Bis was into that. He was just doing 0:09:02.520 --> 0:09:04.200 what he had to do. And you have the green, 0:09:04.240 --> 0:09:06.880 humble other seats. Let's see what the funk. He never 0:09:06.920 --> 0:09:09.040 talked about nothing, never thought we had to drink everything. 0:09:09.160 --> 0:09:13.120 He acted like nothing. Normal bangs we used. He had 0:09:13.160 --> 0:09:16.160 accurate leg bbs maram treated like a hooptie. I just said, 0:09:16.240 --> 0:09:17.599 let me get that ship. I didn't row that for 0:09:17.640 --> 0:09:19.800 eight days. He's still an actual's car. You'll got a car. 0:09:23.040 --> 0:09:26.280 So let's take it from the beginning. From the beginning. 0:09:26.920 --> 0:09:29.400 Let's just say, allegedly you were doing your thing on 0:09:29.440 --> 0:09:35.240 the streets, right you and Dane, y'all, y'all, people's what 0:09:35.400 --> 0:09:38.040 made you say that, I'm gonna stop what I'm doing 0:09:38.480 --> 0:09:40.920 and just focus on this part of it. That what 0:09:41.000 --> 0:09:42.960 happened is we had a crew, the best out, the 0:09:43.000 --> 0:09:47.040 best out. We got my mind I was in the 0:09:47.040 --> 0:09:49.439 best Out. Yeah, I definitely wasn't, but in my mind 0:09:49.480 --> 0:09:51.880 I was. So that's what it was the best out. 0:09:51.880 --> 0:09:55.160 So Dane left the best Out earlier because Darry and 0:09:55.240 --> 0:09:58.160 Dash brought him into the music business, which is Dane's uncle, 0:09:58.679 --> 0:10:01.720 Dan's cousins staying his brother okay, which it was just 0:10:01.760 --> 0:10:09.480 the dogskin guy with Yeah, so he was managed yea 0:10:10.120 --> 0:10:17.480 brother brother. Yeah. So he was like he was managing 0:10:17.600 --> 0:10:21.440 um Future Sound, which turned in the Original Flavor. He 0:10:21.559 --> 0:10:25.120 started going to school and he said when he went 0:10:25.200 --> 0:10:28.720 to college, he was he brought Damon to manage Original Flavor. 0:10:29.240 --> 0:10:31.440 Damn got to, you know, learn the music business. Like 0:10:31.520 --> 0:10:33.440 that came back to the block. It was like yo, 0:10:33.760 --> 0:10:35.959 right on a hunting for Lens was like, yeah, we 0:10:36.000 --> 0:10:38.199 should all do Rockefellard. You know what I'm saying. We 0:10:38.240 --> 0:10:40.200 should put this together. We can do a music company, 0:10:40.280 --> 0:10:42.160 we could do this and that, and started talking about 0:10:42.200 --> 0:10:48.760 all the stuff to Hooker. Yeah. So that next day 0:10:48.760 --> 0:10:50.160 I called him. I was like, yeah, I like what 0:10:50.200 --> 0:10:52.320 you was talking about. And even though you know, me 0:10:52.360 --> 0:10:54.880 and Dame was cool. We became real, real close friends. 0:10:54.880 --> 0:10:56.679 After that, we started spend a lot of time together. 0:10:56.720 --> 0:10:59.280 And after me and Jay I started supporting like on 0:10:59.320 --> 0:11:01.400 the road and of like that, bringing the lifestyle and 0:11:01.440 --> 0:11:04.800 ship and then that's how we came together. But who 0:11:04.840 --> 0:11:08.560 was the guy who actually met Jay first? Uh? Dan 0:11:08.760 --> 0:11:15.320 from Clark Clark. Clark actually was on this on this podcast, okay, 0:11:15.400 --> 0:11:18.439 but also continued so because original Flavor was signed the 0:11:18.480 --> 0:11:23.680 Clark's label, that's the part we never So he was like, Yo, 0:11:23.800 --> 0:11:25.880 you should deal with this, dude, Jay, because just dude, 0:11:25.880 --> 0:11:28.000 you know, here in the streets or whatever, and he 0:11:28.040 --> 0:11:32.320 don't want to stop. So the only way that Jay 0:11:32.400 --> 0:11:35.920 took it serious is after meeting Dane. And then when 0:11:36.000 --> 0:11:38.960 Dames seeing him, he noticed he had pay uptowns on 0:11:39.320 --> 0:11:42.600 air Force ones. But but why did take it serious 0:11:42.640 --> 0:11:44.640 after beating him? I mean, you know, and you know 0:11:44.679 --> 0:11:48.120 how Dame is, right, Dame is a motiva. Yeah, but 0:11:48.160 --> 0:11:50.400 what I'm saying, but he's a genius. Dames a genius. 0:11:50.400 --> 0:11:54.079 He's business minded, he's motivational, he knew the business, so 0:11:54.480 --> 0:11:56.640 it was perfect. He could be the mouthpiece where Jay 0:11:56.640 --> 0:11:59.959 didn't need to be the mouthpiece. So now you guys 0:12:00.000 --> 0:12:06.280 come together right now. According to Big Face Gary, at 0:12:06.320 --> 0:12:12.360 first he wasn't feeling Jay right. He just wasn't talking. Okay, 0:12:18.040 --> 0:12:20.160 I want you to because you're hard nigger and at 0:12:20.200 --> 0:12:24.560 this time, like people really don't know. If you don't know, 0:12:24.920 --> 0:12:27.840 I mean because you know we have people from Wisconsin 0:12:27.920 --> 0:12:30.200 and all type of places. Listen to this ship if 0:12:30.240 --> 0:12:33.920 you don't. Back then in those days, if you was 0:12:33.960 --> 0:12:36.800 some Queens, you stay with people from Queens. If you 0:12:36.840 --> 0:12:38.439 were from Hall, them you stay with people from Hall. 0:12:38.880 --> 0:12:40.520 If you were from Brookley, stay with people from Hall 0:12:41.040 --> 0:12:42.959 Brooklyn's That's why I was important for me to tell 0:12:43.000 --> 0:12:45.160 you the story. When Dames seen him and seeing Jay 0:12:45.200 --> 0:12:47.880 had on paying uptowns, that's when he was like, oh ship, 0:12:47.920 --> 0:12:52.640 this nigga cool Okay, but let me know what looking 0:12:52.720 --> 0:12:55.760 back to Jay. But here's the here's the thing. Did 0:12:55.880 --> 0:12:58.720 y'all know that when the Air Force once came out, 0:12:59.040 --> 0:13:04.040 we all claimed every girl, every girl. I don't know 0:13:04.080 --> 0:13:15.040 why they stayed they stayed up. I don't under I 0:13:15.040 --> 0:13:21.599 think uptown. I just feel like I don't give you 0:13:21.720 --> 0:13:25.480 give me my man. I Willson got I got a 0:13:25.480 --> 0:13:31.920 great personality. I'm not gonna just say anything though, I'm 0:13:31.960 --> 0:13:36.679 just saying, okay, some things now, all right. So, so 0:13:37.760 --> 0:13:40.800 you're doing your thing on the streets, Dame comes to 0:13:40.840 --> 0:13:42.920 you and says he has an artist. Right, you haven't 0:13:42.960 --> 0:13:46.520 met him yet. You meet him now. I want to 0:13:46.559 --> 0:13:50.720 describe that first time you ever walked in. I think 0:13:50.720 --> 0:13:52.680 the first time I met Jay was in front of 0:13:53.040 --> 0:13:58.120 uh Quad because they had a session or something like that. 0:13:58.160 --> 0:14:00.040 And then you owe me man money. We go on 0:14:00.120 --> 0:14:03.400 it funked out Thursdays every Thursday. You gotta cut me 0:14:03.440 --> 0:14:07.079 a check. I'm so sorry, so sorry, but that's where 0:14:07.080 --> 0:14:11.080 I met him. That yeah, okay, So describe a situation. 0:14:11.320 --> 0:14:13.520 Now we're just an introduction, like, yo, this is my man. 0:14:13.520 --> 0:14:16.719 This Sinnat and Jay so um. I think at that time, 0:14:16.760 --> 0:14:18.600 I know he was messing with him or managing him 0:14:18.600 --> 0:14:20.600 at the time, but it was just like we were 0:14:20.640 --> 0:14:23.600 just going to hang out. So but I think we 0:14:23.680 --> 0:14:25.920 probably heard the music before that, and I was like 0:14:26.120 --> 0:14:28.600 some of JA early on music, and you know, I 0:14:28.680 --> 0:14:31.400 was like, uh, you know, but it wasn't about me 0:14:31.680 --> 0:14:33.520 wanting to be a part of it and not damn 0:14:33.560 --> 0:14:35.680 used to play for everybody, but you guys were already 0:14:35.760 --> 0:14:40.920 rockefellows like you already fresh out the best, the best, 0:14:41.000 --> 0:14:43.880 and there any other artists you're considering. I'm not even 0:14:43.920 --> 0:14:46.440 in the music. But this is just you meeting him 0:14:46.440 --> 0:14:49.520 for the first meeting. So I've read an interview somewhere 0:14:49.640 --> 0:14:51.680 that it was like the fifth record that you came 0:14:51.720 --> 0:14:54.080 to the studio and then after that he was like, 0:14:54.120 --> 0:14:56.560 I want to be down. No, okay, And I never 0:14:56.560 --> 0:14:59.000 said I wanted to be down. So what happened was 0:14:59.040 --> 0:15:01.560 when I believed in eight though, was when he battled DMX, 0:15:03.560 --> 0:15:08.160 hold on, hold on, this is so big for the 0:15:08.200 --> 0:15:15.840 drink chat business. This is the so big the drink chat. 0:15:16.520 --> 0:15:20.280 We gotta actually focus everybody. I don't know, I don't know, 0:15:21.080 --> 0:15:24.480 my man red hat, everybody. Come on, everybody focusing on 0:15:24.520 --> 0:15:32.040 this energy. Time, Unlock your energy, unlocking, unlock your energy. Okay, 0:15:33.120 --> 0:15:35.680 So right now, we're in a rough ride of the neighborhood. 0:15:36.000 --> 0:15:38.160 Right now, right this is this is a whole bunch 0:15:38.160 --> 0:15:40.240 of rough rides. Right We're not we're in the Bronx. 0:15:40.520 --> 0:15:42.760 We're not in the neighborhood. No, I'm talking about right now, 0:15:43.240 --> 0:15:47.560 right now, right so now the battle. Yeah, I wanna 0:15:47.880 --> 0:15:51.760 we heard we had Dame describe this battle. We had 0:15:52.560 --> 0:15:56.880 no said he wasn't dead. We had we had DMX 0:15:56.920 --> 0:16:02.480 actually battle. Now d m X says he didn't lose 0:16:02.560 --> 0:16:10.840 this battle. We had Earth recently who said we think 0:16:11.040 --> 0:16:15.480 ex lost, but I want you to describe the scene. 0:16:16.000 --> 0:16:19.320 So what happens because d it's you and Dame cool 0:16:19.400 --> 0:16:23.360 with d And what happened was we was in um 0:16:23.640 --> 0:16:27.040 got Jim and my man Steve Mac and d m 0:16:27.120 --> 0:16:32.200 They cut me. I still got personal with the coach, 0:16:32.240 --> 0:16:34.080 all of us, you know what. We used to always 0:16:34.160 --> 0:16:37.240 argue about whatever, anything all the time. So he had 0:16:37.280 --> 0:16:40.600 to haul of knights, who had to Steve Mac Steve 0:16:42.000 --> 0:16:45.880 so Steve Mac knew d and Y, so he was like, yo, 0:16:45.960 --> 0:16:47.640 let's have a battle. Him and Dame got into it 0:16:47.680 --> 0:16:49.960 about music. He like, yo, you dude, just whack this 0:16:50.080 --> 0:16:52.840 and you know, going back and forth. So they set 0:16:52.880 --> 0:16:55.080 up the battle and then we went right after to 0:16:55.200 --> 0:16:58.200 the Bronx to a pool room on it's like on 0:16:58.240 --> 0:17:02.080 a hundred or something now close to Webster, it's like 0:17:02.160 --> 0:17:05.520 one seventy four or something like that. So it was 0:17:05.560 --> 0:17:08.639 the Hall of Knights against Original Flavor. But then they 0:17:08.680 --> 0:17:12.520 had roughness and then they had another God of Rich 0:17:12.680 --> 0:17:16.240 with another dude from Hallan and then he called d 0:17:16.600 --> 0:17:19.399 and why and then they brought d m X and 0:17:19.440 --> 0:17:22.240 then Dan brought JA. So that's that's how that that 0:17:22.320 --> 0:17:25.280 got set up. Describe, describe what happened. They walked in, 0:17:32.720 --> 0:17:34.399 but you don't notice it, right, I'm just saying, you 0:17:34.440 --> 0:17:39.639 live in that life every day, Okay, So you know 0:17:39.680 --> 0:17:41.760 they're going back and forth and everybody else in the 0:17:41.800 --> 0:17:48.760 Hall of Knights is is definitely problem. People don't if 0:17:48.800 --> 0:17:52.200 you if you know about Hall like Hall Nights transformed 0:17:52.320 --> 0:17:55.600 into rough riders. But they say that like a lot 0:17:55.640 --> 0:17:58.520 of like the l o X style came from the 0:17:58.560 --> 0:18:00.840 Hall of Knights. Okay, you know what I'm saying. And 0:18:00.880 --> 0:18:03.480 that was a cloud Hall of Night. It was a gang, 0:18:03.680 --> 0:18:11.639 that was a group that was a gang. It was 0:18:12.000 --> 0:18:16.239 from three yeah, Win and um I forgot that were 0:18:16.280 --> 0:18:19.879 doing that. So now they come in and this this 0:18:20.000 --> 0:18:24.600 big icon who was DMX and this big icon who 0:18:24.640 --> 0:18:28.400 was jay Z. But they're not not. But I knew 0:18:28.520 --> 0:18:31.120 DMX prior to that. DMX used to come up town 0:18:31.160 --> 0:18:34.520 a hunting forty and just wrap in the park all day. 0:18:35.240 --> 0:18:37.080 When he used to say k solo took a stop. 0:18:38.320 --> 0:18:42.080 He's still robbing that story. You see DMX like I 0:18:42.200 --> 0:18:58.760 still look, so I still want to standard. So they 0:18:58.880 --> 0:19:01.560 come together. So now what happens because they don't know 0:19:01.640 --> 0:19:04.840 each other, right, No, so it's in the pool hall, 0:19:04.920 --> 0:19:07.439 you said, So I don't remember, like you know what 0:19:07.560 --> 0:19:09.359 happened led up to it. How they arrange who was 0:19:09.400 --> 0:19:14.160 going again too? But damon, I mean j went against 0:19:14.440 --> 0:19:16.000 d m X. They was going back and forth. And 0:19:16.040 --> 0:19:17.960 then the funny thing, Big L was the only one 0:19:18.000 --> 0:19:23.160 recording everything. So that recording that y'all see here all 0:19:23.200 --> 0:19:26.280 came from Big L. But why it was like, Yo, 0:19:26.640 --> 0:19:29.640 I shouldn't incorporated nothing like that. YO, don't tape us. 0:19:29.720 --> 0:19:32.840 So that's why the only footage is on Jake. So 0:19:32.880 --> 0:19:35.320 the thing about it is, we had Earth here, and 0:19:35.440 --> 0:19:38.919 Earth said no, first off, forget us having Earth. We 0:19:38.960 --> 0:19:42.240 had dm MAX here and we asked DMX. We said, Yo, 0:19:43.000 --> 0:19:45.600 who won the battle? DMX said we never, He never 0:19:45.640 --> 0:19:48.000 lost the battle. Then I've seen an interview with Jay. 0:19:48.400 --> 0:19:50.800 Jay said he never lost the battle. But the thing 0:19:50.840 --> 0:19:54.359 about it was, we had just had erv here and 0:19:54.400 --> 0:19:57.000 we asked herv and the Earth said, that's the only 0:19:57.040 --> 0:20:01.840 time I ever heard DMX say I think the people 0:20:02.000 --> 0:20:05.639 thought I lost. He never admitted that you so how 0:20:05.680 --> 0:20:08.400 did you film in your opinion? So that's that's when 0:20:08.400 --> 0:20:12.520 I became a believer with J. Yeah, I was a 0:20:12.520 --> 0:20:14.640 lot of people in the Steve Mac is my man 0:20:14.880 --> 0:20:17.800 and Dame is my man. So I wasn't there favoring nobody. 0:20:18.080 --> 0:20:19.680 It was at that battle when I was like, Yo, 0:20:19.720 --> 0:20:22.120 this dude, J is nice and he started talking about 0:20:22.200 --> 0:20:26.480 the streets right my money machine and he wasn't speed 0:20:26.560 --> 0:20:29.399 rapping a little bit, but not like you know what 0:20:29.400 --> 0:20:32.200 I'm saying, but people reacting to people, and there's a 0:20:32.240 --> 0:20:36.080 lot of people act was going crazy. But I mean 0:20:36.119 --> 0:20:38.480 both of them. It was like one A and one B. 0:20:39.040 --> 0:20:42.040 But I gave you know me, I gave J the 0:20:42.200 --> 0:20:44.879 not But I'm just saying if somebody said X, you 0:20:44.920 --> 0:20:47.840 wouldn't be mad. I'm just saying it was it was 0:20:47.880 --> 0:20:51.800 that close. You know what, I'm drink Honestly, you gotta 0:20:51.880 --> 0:20:54.880 drink something. 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So make sure you check Fat Joe at 0:22:50.760 --> 0:22:53.680 Title dot com forward slash fat Joe for the pick 0:22:53.720 --> 0:22:57.320 It Up video and Title dot Com forward slash Coca 0:22:57.440 --> 0:23:00.960 Vision for the podcast. Support him, you support Drink Champs 0:23:01.000 --> 0:23:06.800 and vice versa. Let's go listen while I got the two. 0:23:07.920 --> 0:23:12.240 Let me tell you something. I've been in this game 0:23:12.680 --> 0:23:18.879 since nineteen nineties seven, all right, and since I have 0:23:19.160 --> 0:23:26.119 never seen people have more fun, celebrate more life, indulge 0:23:26.160 --> 0:23:31.119 in the culture more than Rockefellow records. Like you guys 0:23:31.280 --> 0:23:37.160 birth people. You guys gave people life. You guys gave 0:23:37.200 --> 0:23:43.080 people jobs, You gave people the blueprint. Like everybody that's 0:23:43.119 --> 0:23:46.119 trying to be independent right now, they're basing it on 0:23:46.200 --> 0:23:49.119 you guys. So what made you guys even want to 0:23:49.200 --> 0:23:53.399 be independent. I think that was just the mindset what happened. 0:23:53.440 --> 0:23:55.959 They got Damon J was trying to get a deal 0:23:56.080 --> 0:23:58.840 before that and kept getting turned down. So that's what 0:23:59.000 --> 0:24:01.119 led them to want to do something. You know what 0:24:01.119 --> 0:24:03.200 I'm saying themselves so that you know they came to me. 0:24:03.680 --> 0:24:05.040 I was like, Yo, do you want to you know, 0:24:05.080 --> 0:24:07.280 put this together with us, you know, so you know 0:24:07.359 --> 0:24:10.240 it was all for their country. Refused, so you know 0:24:10.280 --> 0:24:13.800 we put it together. You just I remember something. You 0:24:13.800 --> 0:24:16.720 gotta speak to them. I remember something that was very disrespectful. 0:24:17.400 --> 0:24:19.800 Was drinking every day. Sell the comfort me big drinker, 0:24:20.560 --> 0:24:22.440 big time drinker. One of the best way they did it. 0:24:23.960 --> 0:24:27.280 They one of the best. Almost killed your man, he 0:24:27.280 --> 0:24:33.040 almost killed down Lea was dead back. They went to 0:24:33.119 --> 0:24:36.359 Live Records and Steve Rifkin said, JAYJ is not our 0:24:36.400 --> 0:24:42.680 type of rapper. Steve Rifkin base bat. They said. They said, 0:24:42.680 --> 0:24:44.959 we're tired of this ship. And they went to put 0:24:45.000 --> 0:24:47.200 their own paper up. And see Rifkin, who's laughing that 0:24:47.359 --> 0:24:51.280 before freak because I heard this story. I heard his 0:24:51.359 --> 0:24:54.160 Zach story. Because big face I heard the Zach story. 0:24:54.320 --> 0:24:57.119 Just said, but were you involving that picture? When they 0:24:57.119 --> 0:24:58.879 brought up to Steve Rifkin. I want to Steve, but 0:24:58.920 --> 0:25:00.960 I think at that time when I when we went 0:25:00.960 --> 0:25:03.320 to Steve, we was trying to hire him for promotions. 0:25:04.560 --> 0:25:07.400 So what was what was the attitude to say, we're 0:25:07.400 --> 0:25:09.720 trying to hide him. We're trying to hire calv Louds, 0:25:09.960 --> 0:25:11.840 you know what I'm saying. So the attitude to say 0:25:11.880 --> 0:25:15.200 fun everybody was because people didn't just ever take tale 0:25:16.280 --> 0:25:19.560 year to them. So they had those meetings prior and 0:25:19.600 --> 0:25:21.760 then they came to you. And then I don't want 0:25:21.760 --> 0:25:23.720 you to describe because I don't want you to describe 0:25:23.760 --> 0:25:26.000 things that. Yeah, but I'm saying at that time I 0:25:26.040 --> 0:25:28.720 was with them, supporting the videos and everything. So before that, 0:25:28.840 --> 0:25:31.840 obviously we did St. Thomas right, so we went down there. 0:25:31.880 --> 0:25:34.520 You know, Emory brought the island out of Champagne, so 0:25:35.480 --> 0:25:38.920 describe I can't just say that like that. I mean, actually, 0:25:40.920 --> 0:25:42.760 I don't know why he got this into America, but 0:25:42.840 --> 0:25:45.840 what happened. He brought the whole island out of christalland 0:25:45.840 --> 0:25:49.680 don p So that's why we had more in um 0:25:49.800 --> 0:25:52.440 in the video. So we had the boats and all 0:25:52.480 --> 0:26:03.960 that ship. You know, Chris, did you hear what he said, 0:26:03.960 --> 0:26:08.560 before they went to hire Steve and Kevin laws to 0:26:08.680 --> 0:26:12.480 hire them. Okay, first off, in case people don't know 0:26:12.600 --> 0:26:15.840 if you're just tuning in, Kevin Lows is the past 0:26:19.080 --> 0:26:23.520 as the president. Can you guys can't talk about He said, yeah, 0:26:23.520 --> 0:26:25.040 they gave me a paper bag and I was like, yo, 0:26:25.119 --> 0:26:31.320 I can't take this. I can't spins described that man 0:26:31.440 --> 0:26:34.920 talent be right. Cool, we know we're on the streets. 0:26:34.960 --> 0:26:37.560 We don't get to get into what happened in the streets. 0:26:38.720 --> 0:26:42.680 But when they come to you, you're saying, damon, Jay 0:26:42.800 --> 0:26:45.080 already had this popping, right, they already had this going. 0:26:45.720 --> 0:26:50.560 They came they had the name fell to hok okay. 0:26:50.680 --> 0:26:54.359 So they come to you and they say what He 0:26:54.480 --> 0:26:57.840 was like, yeo, let's do this together because you had 0:26:57.880 --> 0:26:59.960 the business mind we at that time when it was 0:27:00.040 --> 0:27:03.240 hanging together probably every day for like a year and 0:27:03.280 --> 0:27:07.000 a half. So this is in my lifetime is already out. 0:27:07.040 --> 0:27:09.119 I can't get with that. This is probably right. I 0:27:09.119 --> 0:27:13.240 can't after that. Yeah, right after, I can't get with 0:27:13.280 --> 0:27:20.360 that four years old. You got to relax. My lifetime 0:27:20.720 --> 0:27:24.879 in my lifetime, remix in my lifetime, yeah, which is 0:27:24.920 --> 0:27:27.360 one of the most people heard yeah, but the remix, 0:27:27.600 --> 0:27:29.560 you know we did. We came back and did the 0:27:29.640 --> 0:27:32.879 video forge here for the remix. It was right after 0:27:32.920 --> 0:27:34.879 that that we put it together and then the first 0:27:36.440 --> 0:27:38.440 forgot the first song that we don't even remember the 0:27:38.440 --> 0:27:40.959 first song we might have put out. It was right 0:27:41.000 --> 0:27:44.040 after in My Lifetime remix though. Now Biggs, I know 0:27:44.240 --> 0:27:48.280 you personally, like to me and all of my niggas, 0:27:48.800 --> 0:27:52.720 I close my eyes. All of my niggas was like, 0:27:53.640 --> 0:27:58.280 nor we love Biggs right, And this the thing is, 0:27:59.040 --> 0:28:02.960 you've never been industry lives like you've never been, like 0:28:03.240 --> 0:28:05.840 you made all the money in and you were still 0:28:05.920 --> 0:28:10.960 as hood as loved it. How the fund do you 0:28:11.040 --> 0:28:13.600 do that? Like? How do you make all the money 0:28:13.760 --> 0:28:15.720 in the world? Like I remember one time I came 0:28:15.760 --> 0:28:17.200 to a crib and you was hitting me on. I 0:28:17.200 --> 0:28:19.439 didn't even see you, who was just buzzing me and 0:28:19.480 --> 0:28:29.600 your norry you good as we downstairs like you know, 0:28:29.680 --> 0:28:36.240 the bathrooms over He talked to me about to cry. 0:28:37.000 --> 0:28:39.520 Don't cry, don't cry yet. I got some ship. I 0:28:39.560 --> 0:28:43.200 got some ship. No no, no, no, how did you never? 0:28:43.640 --> 0:28:45.760 Like I mean, I'm gonna be honest with you, like 0:28:47.120 --> 0:28:50.560 not only that you know, you're invited me to my career, 0:28:50.640 --> 0:28:53.080 Like my my second day I ever had, my wife 0:28:53.120 --> 0:28:59.040 is at your house. Wow, that's crazy. Like I came through, 0:28:59.360 --> 0:29:00.800 I was say a big you don't like no? No, 0:29:00.880 --> 0:29:05.000 he was like, no, your girls don't even want it's cute. 0:29:05.480 --> 0:29:10.880 It's like the business. Big shut me down. He's like, 0:29:12.200 --> 0:29:19.200 you girl, good cookies. But I come to the biggest 0:29:19.240 --> 0:29:23.400 house almost everything. Keep it real. No, there's no pictures 0:29:23.720 --> 0:29:26.760 that it was none of that. But how how do 0:29:26.800 --> 0:29:32.000 you maintain your sanity? Like especially like I not now 0:29:32.040 --> 0:29:35.000 I'm talking about fact. Then you was getting so much money. 0:29:35.040 --> 0:29:37.880 It was so ridiculous. I remember one time y'all just 0:29:38.080 --> 0:29:39.960 told me to come to answer dam for no reason. 0:29:42.520 --> 0:29:53.720 Herijuana are you trying to realize? Sorry, no, we're gonna 0:29:53.760 --> 0:29:59.280 get into it. But but but let's let's just maintain 0:29:59.040 --> 0:30:02.560 I think you sa like I've never seen you go 0:30:02.680 --> 0:30:06.640 create coming into the game doing well. So it wasn't 0:30:06.720 --> 0:30:10.720 much that change, you know what I'm saying. So obviously 0:30:11.240 --> 0:30:13.680 it was checks instead, right, So you know what I mean, 0:30:13.800 --> 0:30:16.280 the way you got money change, But it wasn't that 0:30:16.400 --> 0:30:18.440 much of a change where you know what I I mean, 0:30:18.480 --> 0:30:20.680 you really had to change who you are? You know 0:30:20.720 --> 0:30:25.720 what I mean? Now, big face Gaby, how you doing so? 0:30:25.960 --> 0:30:28.680 I'm just living that. I'm good. Are you drinking and 0:30:28.760 --> 0:30:31.840 Susa water? Yeah, let's talk about that pup Daddy story. 0:30:31.880 --> 0:30:33.760 Pup Daddy told you don't drink with the help. He 0:30:33.800 --> 0:30:38.640 disrespected me big time. What was happening with me? Bigs 0:30:38.800 --> 0:30:40.440 dat win l A with all of us. I ain't 0:30:40.440 --> 0:30:41.920 know about the music. I just came out of jail. 0:30:42.280 --> 0:30:44.840 Bigg on them was like I was making swording threetys 0:30:44.880 --> 0:30:48.160 a week. They're living food for shelter. I was hanging 0:30:48.240 --> 0:30:51.120 down no shelter. I was working. I was hanging with 0:30:51.160 --> 0:30:53.160 names six and more the damon for a badly day. 0:30:53.200 --> 0:30:55.160 They said, what do you make a week? I said 0:30:55.200 --> 0:30:58.960 to fifty? They said, okay, fuck the megas. I want 0:30:59.000 --> 0:31:01.280 to pay you any grandy year just to hang with us. 0:31:01.280 --> 0:31:03.600 You learn the business, You're gonna get a lot more money, man, 0:31:03.640 --> 0:31:06.440 I said them niggas. So I had them niggas every 0:31:06.520 --> 0:31:11.320 day to drink and snap. Okay, So now I want 0:31:11.320 --> 0:31:13.960 you to tell me because I listen. You know, I listen. 0:31:14.440 --> 0:31:17.120 It's the rail, It's the race of risk, so bad. 0:31:17.680 --> 0:31:21.360 Listen to it. Official I had missed you, and you 0:31:21.360 --> 0:31:23.880 know I you know I love y'all niggas like robbing. 0:31:24.240 --> 0:31:27.560 Y'all was my stinning family. So what was your first 0:31:27.600 --> 0:31:30.040 memory of jay Z? Come on, you can mix it. 0:31:30.040 --> 0:31:32.600 You can get like my first memory juice of something, 0:31:32.600 --> 0:31:36.480 because just here, yeah, I feel like you were the first. 0:31:36.520 --> 0:31:38.840 My memory of Rocket Feller is like I said, it's 0:31:38.840 --> 0:31:44.080 not I don't know. I'm good mean beings every day, 0:31:44.120 --> 0:31:46.840 Like I said, Bags was ridiculous. We just drink every day, 0:31:46.880 --> 0:31:48.960 called me twelve o'clock. We drink from twelve and afternoon 0:31:49.200 --> 0:31:53.040 to literally the next morning. We didn't stop. Damn music, 0:31:53.120 --> 0:31:55.760 bags and talking about music. We're pushing this range over 0:31:55.840 --> 0:32:01.400 no gas gas on the regular were put us rage 0:32:01.440 --> 0:32:07.880 on his laughing. I bought a brand new bag. My 0:32:07.960 --> 0:32:16.760 ship cut out on me even laughing, like honestly, my biggest, 0:32:17.400 --> 0:32:20.440 my biggest Mammy and Jay honestly to one of the 0:32:20.440 --> 0:32:22.960 ones was one night we always drunk. Bigges ain't for 0:32:23.240 --> 0:32:24.960 drive normal for so I played off a lot, and 0:32:25.000 --> 0:32:28.480 so I gotta do something. Jay parked on the hydrant 0:32:28.640 --> 0:32:32.720 because gesture hunted and she got told, so he didn't know. 0:32:33.080 --> 0:32:36.080 So I got caught out to drive j home, big 0:32:36.200 --> 0:32:38.600 him laugh. I drove him home, so I said, I said, J, 0:32:38.760 --> 0:32:41.959 you hid you? You hide this mom. He said, put 0:32:42.000 --> 0:32:47.560 anything on yo, Nori. I drove him from my block 0:32:47.880 --> 0:32:51.200 to State Street and Brooklyn. That motherfucker hit me with 0:32:51.240 --> 0:32:53.960 so more run. But my face was it was skinny 0:32:54.040 --> 0:32:59.120 like his man. When he see was saying ship, they 0:32:59.120 --> 0:33:01.440 make no sense. I said, this is what the fund 0:33:01.480 --> 0:33:04.760 you're just saying, and this is jay Z jay Z, 0:33:05.000 --> 0:33:07.560 no deal, no nothing. I'm not talking about what he 0:33:07.600 --> 0:33:10.200 had on him. That's it's over. He was jay Z 0:33:10.640 --> 0:33:14.600 MPV with BBS. I thought I had a Maserati bigs 0:33:14.600 --> 0:33:16.000 had a bunch of you know, sorry, but I'm not 0:33:16.000 --> 0:33:19.560 pulling out their biggs half range rovers legends hoop these 0:33:19.560 --> 0:33:21.960 to him and you in what kind of car MPV, 0:33:22.160 --> 0:33:30.160 BB swims? Anybody want to judge this MPV? Was that ship? 0:33:33.000 --> 0:33:37.920 Maybe he was like su Bourbon you. I was doing okay, 0:33:37.960 --> 0:33:39.920 but not like I was in this. I'm not gonna 0:33:39.960 --> 0:33:42.080 I did my time the streets back then. No one 0:33:42.120 --> 0:33:43.720 did the level of my brothers. But I did okay 0:33:43.760 --> 0:33:46.520 for myself. But anyway, so I drove Jay home. He 0:33:46.600 --> 0:33:49.000 was saying ship that I called Biggs. The next day, 0:33:49.840 --> 0:33:54.360 I said, ja this, Karran, I told you so big, 0:33:54.400 --> 0:33:56.640 that's the bigg that's my biggest donner. He's infested, he's 0:33:56.680 --> 0:33:59.800 down business in the group. I said, big, this motherfucker's 0:34:00.280 --> 0:34:02.560 I told you Gary, Because let me just tell you 0:34:02.560 --> 0:34:06.280 something about Biggs. It's it's so hard to get Biggs 0:34:06.360 --> 0:34:08.799 to get them down with something. He's so laid back 0:34:08.800 --> 0:34:12.160 at Once you get him down with you all the way, 0:34:13.120 --> 0:34:18.520 he'll stop. That's what I knew. Like because listen, Biggs 0:34:18.520 --> 0:34:25.720 always say I never signed the contract everybody to please. 0:34:27.120 --> 0:34:31.520 They were so rich. I was begging them. I was like, 0:34:31.560 --> 0:34:37.879 give you a contract, just like th flattening them out here. 0:34:38.840 --> 0:34:42.440 The contract there, gonna sen it to you Monday. That's how. 0:34:42.520 --> 0:34:45.360 That's how. But but let me just tell you something X. 0:34:46.560 --> 0:34:49.600 I remember, and I'll tell my people this. All the 0:34:49.680 --> 0:34:53.920 time you had an African driver forget his name, to 0:34:56.040 --> 0:34:59.760 my nigger and every two weeks, just out the blue, 0:35:01.440 --> 0:35:04.960 I too, would just show up in my house and 0:35:05.000 --> 0:35:08.000 I'll be like, I'll come outside and then Biggers are 0:35:08.040 --> 0:35:09.759 calling me, be like I can smell it from here. 0:35:10.120 --> 0:35:12.760 I'm like, are you talking about like you're smoking haze? 0:35:15.120 --> 0:35:19.480 You hated me smoking, and this is hay Is at 0:35:19.480 --> 0:35:25.600 the time. He's like, motherfucker, look at outside with a 0:35:25.680 --> 0:35:29.400 cookie job full of weed and be like being city 0:35:29.480 --> 0:35:33.319 for you. And I was like, you know, the thing 0:35:33.360 --> 0:35:37.120 about bigs was because because when I say big is 0:35:37.160 --> 0:35:40.680 the best CEO and not start with that story, sometimes 0:35:40.760 --> 0:35:44.000 people think I'm basing it off because you gave me 0:35:44.120 --> 0:35:46.239 weed or you gave me. The thing about it was, 0:35:46.320 --> 0:35:49.000 I would come to you with logical ship and you 0:35:49.120 --> 0:35:52.520 always approved every budget. I just had to come with 0:35:52.560 --> 0:35:57.200 something logical. Thank you. Do you think the black CEO 0:35:58.120 --> 0:36:02.719 it's not existing no more because us of that? Um? 0:36:02.760 --> 0:36:04.719 I don't know. I don't. I don't think that a 0:36:04.760 --> 0:36:07.719 lot of other CEOs today believe in the artist the 0:36:07.719 --> 0:36:11.000 way we did, you know, because with us, it was 0:36:11.080 --> 0:36:15.239 more relationship. It wasn't just about the business, you know 0:36:15.239 --> 0:36:16.840 what I mean. We cared about what was going on 0:36:16.880 --> 0:36:19.479 in every artist personal life. If you was going through something, 0:36:19.520 --> 0:36:20.960 if he was going something with your kid, if you 0:36:21.040 --> 0:36:23.680 got through gotten a problem on your block. We had 0:36:23.719 --> 0:36:25.239 to move people, you know what I mean, send him 0:36:25.239 --> 0:36:27.719 out of town, unless it was we was more invested 0:36:28.120 --> 0:36:32.560 than just um from the business standpoint. Yeah, that was official. Yeah, 0:36:32.960 --> 0:36:38.040 now it was there for that. He made a good point. 0:36:38.719 --> 0:36:40.560 I remember when I was working for Rockford things to 0:36:40.600 --> 0:36:42.960 pick on me. I was a mama's boy. I ain't 0:36:43.000 --> 0:36:45.400 wanna leave my mama. I think we lived a man. 0:36:45.400 --> 0:36:47.279 I'm back and for a couple of women living life. 0:36:47.800 --> 0:36:52.719 May see with your mom be you stick with your mom. 0:36:53.120 --> 0:36:55.120 I'm back and forth. I'm i gonna say what he did. 0:36:55.239 --> 0:36:56.839 It must thin't got his way, as I will say 0:36:56.880 --> 0:36:58.960 his name. He cut me a check to get your 0:36:59.000 --> 0:37:01.759 own crib maga one day on me and Dame was 0:37:02.160 --> 0:37:04.520 losing Dame crib and we got in your car. We 0:37:04.640 --> 0:37:08.960 both got a rash that my caddy. Yeah, he eating 0:37:08.960 --> 0:37:15.080 me up a little bit. You don't right, say somebody 0:37:15.080 --> 0:37:19.520 I can take getting You know what you didn't get 0:37:19.520 --> 0:37:23.640 out there, y'all get out good rid about me. I 0:37:23.680 --> 0:37:26.160 didn't pay for myself, y'all. Love was another love with me. 0:37:26.480 --> 0:37:28.600 I'm just happy that we were friends. You know were good. 0:37:28.880 --> 0:37:31.239 But Biggs, man, I'm gonna tell you again. I got 0:37:31.320 --> 0:37:36.200 another story right in the studio, told hook who named 0:37:36.280 --> 0:37:40.920 Rocket Feller drunk as a skunk? They can I live verse? 0:37:41.680 --> 0:37:44.480 Can you get the first right? J? That's my favorite 0:37:44.480 --> 0:37:45.960 record of all time. Sam on the Hook, that's my 0:37:46.000 --> 0:37:49.719 favorite record of ball to bus. Yeah, that's my He 0:37:49.760 --> 0:37:53.200 was drunk as a skunk. Jay on't write big said, 0:37:53.440 --> 0:37:56.120 thank you pissing me off your bath people. Jake write 0:37:56.160 --> 0:37:58.120 up to Jake, j wonte some ship Russians. I don't 0:37:58.120 --> 0:38:00.640 know what Russia. Biggest note this is my rosh can 0:38:00.760 --> 0:38:04.600 I live? Tonk was drunk because I'm saying Jay wrote, 0:38:04.640 --> 0:38:07.120 because you say no Call was Jay's record, but we 0:38:07.200 --> 0:38:10.799 gave to a verse too filthy drunk. Dame couldn't take 0:38:10.840 --> 0:38:12.520 it no more. So he said, you gotta write the verse. 0:38:12.560 --> 0:38:14.279 I can't take this show the more. J wrote some 0:38:14.280 --> 0:38:17.359 ship looked like Russia. You know all right, we don't 0:38:17.400 --> 0:38:20.320 leave our cars. We've bottom as you should. My confederate 0:38:20.360 --> 0:38:23.600 that explode on the set nation in my life base. 0:38:24.120 --> 0:38:26.040 He wrote that verse. I was like, oh my god. 0:38:26.239 --> 0:38:29.120 Tone Tonka's verse tone was so drunk Dame could have 0:38:29.239 --> 0:38:31.279 taken them more. That's when Jay wrote that verse, Man, 0:38:32.320 --> 0:38:34.760 we don't lease. He was like, he's did a six minutes. 0:38:34.800 --> 0:38:39.520 Actually that was my line. What bass gonna saying. I'm 0:38:39.560 --> 0:38:41.319 gonna say this, I hate the biggest me Bass got 0:38:41.360 --> 0:38:43.880 a personal friendship. He's a little cocky, but he's right. 0:38:44.000 --> 0:38:46.040 A lot of sheep was written was through Biggs life. Man, 0:38:46.080 --> 0:38:48.680 I'm not gonna name it Biggest real keep talking about business, 0:38:48.719 --> 0:38:52.279 mind cars because saying no, but I'm that's I'm a mouth. 0:38:52.400 --> 0:38:55.440 That's my man. You're saying it was biggest money that 0:38:55.480 --> 0:39:00.160 started rocking. Everybody know that. I don't know that. I'm that. 0:39:00.200 --> 0:39:04.080 I'm cheating bottles of chamtague. I'm a country club king, 0:39:04.080 --> 0:39:07.960 boles of champagne. I'm chinking bottles of champagne as biggest cream. 0:39:07.960 --> 0:39:10.719 I bluntr ball. I'm walking to the club, Big said, 0:39:10.800 --> 0:39:14.000 Big Favor. We're good here, Buckets, listen, I'm not making 0:39:14.000 --> 0:39:16.560 this up. Bottles this hiding on and make them ships, 0:39:17.000 --> 0:39:20.120 you don't make them Biggest. Sitting there, it's Biggs had 0:39:20.560 --> 0:39:29.839 It's like handcuff bracelets. It was like handcuff. So we're 0:39:29.880 --> 0:39:33.560 laying a little, we're talking shape, drinking, laughing. Literally, I'm like, yo, 0:39:33.600 --> 0:39:35.200 big what Then Bag said, Big Faith, you don't not 0:39:35.200 --> 0:39:38.560 worry about nothing. We're good. Mic Oh sorry, sorry, we 0:39:38.560 --> 0:39:41.880 ain't not worried about nothing. We're gonna live, Yo, the 0:39:41.960 --> 0:39:46.040 big big country club big bottles of champagne. Oh type 0:39:46.040 --> 0:39:48.000 of ship. It was just ridiculous. But my set, like 0:39:48.040 --> 0:39:51.319 I said that memory when Jay wrote that gibberish, I 0:39:51.360 --> 0:39:53.480 know what the ship was. But that was Tone Booker's 0:39:53.480 --> 0:39:56.480 first man. That's my favor breakerd Javid there all time, 0:39:56.520 --> 0:40:01.680 can I live? I love that record. So now you 0:40:01.760 --> 0:40:04.360 guys are both farther. You meet this guy from Brooklyn. 0:40:04.560 --> 0:40:10.000 Right now, you'll believe right now, you'll believe you're you're 0:40:10.000 --> 0:40:17.040 one of the foot soldiers. So so what what what 0:40:17.080 --> 0:40:21.280 makes y'all say let's go full fledh on this whole project? 0:40:21.280 --> 0:40:24.120 What was it was it? Was it a single record? 0:40:24.560 --> 0:40:26.439 Or was it just now? I don't think I don't 0:40:26.440 --> 0:40:30.520 even think we had that many traditionally apologize for traditionally 0:40:30.840 --> 0:40:33.040 back then, if you're from Queen's, you stay with Queen's. 0:40:33.120 --> 0:40:35.600 People from Brooklyn stay with Brooklyn. We will pass out 0:40:35.600 --> 0:40:39.040 of Remember at this time we were already um friends 0:40:39.080 --> 0:40:44.200 for two years, you and Jack. Yeah, okay, continue, yeah, 0:40:44.239 --> 0:40:46.760 So when you know when they said to do it already, 0:40:46.840 --> 0:40:50.000 this is after in my lifetime and the remix. So 0:40:50.239 --> 0:40:52.640 at this time I'm a believer, you know what I'm saying. 0:40:52.680 --> 0:40:55.640 So when we put it together, we put that reasonable 0:40:55.640 --> 0:40:58.879 down album together. I'm not sure. I think maybe uh 0:40:58.960 --> 0:41:03.120 coming to age, coming to the age of the oldest 0:41:03.120 --> 0:41:06.400 song on the album, who knows because him and you 0:41:06.440 --> 0:41:08.359 know they did that with Clark prior, all the old 0:41:08.640 --> 0:41:12.480 all those Clark songs and what's the other ship? Uh 0:41:12.880 --> 0:41:16.360 in my life two twos? I mean obviously because he 0:41:16.400 --> 0:41:20.200 used to perform that all the time. And cash Mere thoughts. 0:41:20.680 --> 0:41:23.160 Those are the those are those are the three older 0:41:23.200 --> 0:41:30.440 songs that random what that is was our driver and 0:41:30.520 --> 0:41:32.719 it was our driving the land of Big Big something. 0:41:32.719 --> 0:41:34.640 Put them on. We put rock foot on the place 0:41:34.640 --> 0:41:37.520 of the white limo, and we destroyed Jack the Rapper. 0:41:38.520 --> 0:41:41.520 Shout out to Kenny Burns, Kenny bron We dominated that weekend, 0:41:42.120 --> 0:41:45.640 dominated Jack the Rapper. What big talk about it because 0:41:45.800 --> 0:41:50.239 there's nobody in this podcast I ever talked about Big 0:41:51.480 --> 0:42:03.640 Biggs called the meeting. Now I'm keep drinking all stop 0:42:04.480 --> 0:42:11.319 here man, you my man. Okay, the best food in 0:42:11.320 --> 0:42:18.400 the world, best drinks in the best atmosphere. 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We were 0:44:45.440 --> 0:44:47.799 bigger on them. In the limo we put rocket had 0:44:47.800 --> 0:44:49.760 the rocketroller buggy at that time we have the rocket 0:44:49.760 --> 0:44:53.400 feller plays on a limo. Damn no buggy. We went 0:44:53.480 --> 0:44:55.040 to some part base from I don't know the party. 0:44:55.320 --> 0:44:58.920 Jay was really Jay Rome Hi talk man. We went 0:44:58.960 --> 0:45:01.120 to a party and pass on mind. Ja flipped the 0:45:01.160 --> 0:45:05.719 table over my baby. Remember they flipped the table over. Yo. 0:45:05.880 --> 0:45:09.319 Jay started wrapping and I was like yo. The people 0:45:09.400 --> 0:45:11.759 was like, who is this motherfucker? But the ship was 0:45:11.800 --> 0:45:13.920 so hot, People like, oh what the fuck? You know? 0:45:14.000 --> 0:45:16.080 You do the soul trade line. We all Hall the 0:45:16.160 --> 0:45:18.279 Week dance, so you know it took j nine minutes 0:45:18.320 --> 0:45:23.879 ago through that line. He rapped like he like this yeah, 0:45:25.840 --> 0:45:31.320 through the line. He literally that's how you do it. 0:45:31.360 --> 0:45:33.759 He was so quiet and smooth. We went to Jack 0:45:33.840 --> 0:45:35.879 the Rabbit. We had a ball man and that's when 0:45:35.920 --> 0:45:37.919 I said, big, this is really gonna happened back. Okay, 0:45:37.920 --> 0:45:39.480 So let me let me ask you are both right, 0:45:39.480 --> 0:45:42.040 because both of you are describing, you know, both of 0:45:42.080 --> 0:45:46.040 your own experiences, which is so awesome. Right, but when 0:45:46.160 --> 0:45:49.839 individually did you really know Javis special? Because the thing 0:45:49.840 --> 0:45:51.680 about it is, I don't give a funk. This is 0:45:51.719 --> 0:45:53.960 my nephew right here. I think he's special. Maybe I 0:45:54.000 --> 0:45:56.359 think he's special because he's my nephew. Maybe I think 0:45:56.400 --> 0:46:00.200 he's special because he's special. I don't know, but I 0:46:00.200 --> 0:46:03.239 would have to find out years down the line. Right, 0:46:03.360 --> 0:46:07.480 So when was the moment for you guys the battle 0:46:07.520 --> 0:46:12.279 with DMX? Now, du was there? Which one? There was 0:46:12.360 --> 0:46:28.839 only one the Bronx, Yeah, table, Yeah, it's a good thing. 0:46:31.160 --> 0:46:35.319 D from motherfucker bro Riders is there. I'm sorry, big, 0:46:35.400 --> 0:46:43.440 you gotta share them. So described this battle because we 0:46:43.560 --> 0:46:48.239 heard we heard from um uh Dane Earth, We heard 0:46:48.239 --> 0:46:51.480 from herb but Earth said he wasn't there, correct. We 0:46:51.600 --> 0:46:54.600 heard from lee All no le All said he wasn't there. 0:46:55.200 --> 0:46:58.359 Le All wasn't there. Um but we heard from pretty 0:46:58.440 --> 0:46:59.719 much it was. It was a couple of people that 0:46:59.800 --> 0:47:01.760 to tell of the people that talked about this battle. 0:47:02.440 --> 0:47:06.040 So I would love to hear D from Rough Riders 0:47:06.520 --> 0:47:10.600 describe this moment. It was. It was, it was in 0:47:10.680 --> 0:47:13.520 the Bronx of the number it was, it wasn't even 0:47:13.600 --> 0:47:15.359 it was it was in the pool and the Bronx. 0:47:15.440 --> 0:47:18.920 It was Webster like I want so many and one 0:47:18.960 --> 0:47:25.200 of them blocks was cool or guys was good with everybody, 0:47:25.200 --> 0:47:28.120 We're good everything. It was good. So what happened? How 0:47:28.120 --> 0:47:30.080 did they put these two? Like I said, we didn't 0:47:30.120 --> 0:47:32.239 know d and why I said we knew Steve Mac 0:47:32.360 --> 0:47:36.320 and Steve Mac was they? Okay? Mike from my building, 0:47:36.520 --> 0:47:39.520 one of my buildings up on Broadway and Harlem, so 0:47:40.040 --> 0:47:43.000 I knew it wasn't even a battle for X. It 0:47:43.160 --> 0:47:46.160 was a battle for UM. I think it was a 0:47:46.239 --> 0:47:49.720 Hall of Nights and somebody else right the original flavors 0:47:49.760 --> 0:47:55.640 briginal flavors, So it wasn't even supposed to be um. Uh. 0:47:55.920 --> 0:47:58.960 It just happened to exactly. So they was battle when 0:47:59.000 --> 0:48:01.399 and then X was over here, and I guess HOLD 0:48:01.560 --> 0:48:04.200 was over there, and it was better on the two 0:48:04.320 --> 0:48:06.040 other people was better. I don't know who they was battling, 0:48:06.080 --> 0:48:07.840 but I don't know. Mack and him have some people battling. 0:48:08.560 --> 0:48:12.279 So they was daring and it wasn't really doing much. 0:48:12.320 --> 0:48:15.000 And then I guess ex got on the table, holding 0:48:15.160 --> 0:48:16.600 on the table. Then we put them both on the 0:48:16.640 --> 0:48:21.759 table and then they started battling from there on the table. First, Yeah, 0:48:21.960 --> 0:48:26.560 so D who won that battle? Yep, that battle You 0:48:26.600 --> 0:48:29.600 really can't say nobody one because they both was good. 0:48:29.680 --> 0:48:34.960 So I gave it like everybody both like when you 0:48:35.000 --> 0:48:37.799 hear it on both sides, people like, it was a 0:48:37.800 --> 0:48:41.120 tough battle. I mean, everybody kind of giving it up. 0:48:41.160 --> 0:48:44.520 Ain't nobody like, yo, this was the clearest And if 0:48:44.600 --> 0:48:46.840 anybody on that side say D M X one, you 0:48:46.880 --> 0:48:50.080 ain't mad. If anybody on this side saying J it 0:48:50.160 --> 0:48:53.960 was that close like it was. It was tight, like 0:48:54.000 --> 0:48:56.520 it was a battle where you had to give it 0:48:56.840 --> 0:48:59.920 up for both sides. And plus it was an experience 0:49:00.640 --> 0:49:03.000 for X as well as whole because they both had 0:49:03.040 --> 0:49:05.480 different styles and energy, so they learned off each other. 0:49:06.000 --> 0:49:09.200 So that's what made it the whole world this way, 0:49:09.239 --> 0:49:10.800 an X that way, he was like, oh, shoot, he 0:49:10.880 --> 0:49:13.200 learned something from next hohopeably learned something from them. And 0:49:13.200 --> 0:49:16.000 they both had two unique styles and nobody really wanted 0:49:16.040 --> 0:49:18.160 was just it was like a draw. But we just 0:49:18.200 --> 0:49:22.720 had herb Gotti on right, and it came out tonight. 0:49:22.760 --> 0:49:36.320 What's the nights? They second the second second and Herbs said, 0:49:36.840 --> 0:49:42.800 this is the only battle with DMX felt like he won, 0:49:43.800 --> 0:49:49.360 but he felt like the people chose um Jack. Do 0:49:49.480 --> 0:49:52.439 you think irv's correcting us the statement, I don't think 0:49:52.440 --> 0:49:55.400 nobody chose anybody. It wasn't even like that. It was 0:49:55.440 --> 0:49:59.319 just like it was said that Jay rom and he 0:49:59.480 --> 0:50:03.200 left to that, and that's what made DMX mad at him. 0:50:03.239 --> 0:50:06.360 That's what the Earth said, right, I'm correct, this is 0:50:06.400 --> 0:50:08.719 not my birth. I don't really I don't really know 0:50:08.800 --> 0:50:12.759 who stayed left, but we was there. Somebody got on 0:50:12.800 --> 0:50:14.600 at the end, some dude that was real nice. I 0:50:14.640 --> 0:50:17.040 don't know if you remember that, some guy from the 0:50:17.040 --> 0:50:19.560 crowd or whatever. He jumped on the table, super nice 0:50:20.120 --> 0:50:21.800 and he just like kicked the verse and then that 0:50:21.960 --> 0:50:28.799 was it. Everybody was goingbody remembers him, don't remember it 0:50:28.960 --> 0:50:35.480 was nice. Every time got on, everybody went crazy. Every 0:50:35.520 --> 0:50:39.759 time Jay got on, everybody went crazy. So does at 0:50:39.760 --> 0:50:42.040 any point in this type of battle, is it aggressive? 0:50:42.080 --> 0:50:46.120 It's just lyrics. It's just rhyming. Yeah, just the cruising. 0:50:47.280 --> 0:50:49.400 I think somebody pull out a gun one time, but 0:50:49.400 --> 0:50:54.279 it was a part of the aggressive guns. Guns is 0:50:54.320 --> 0:51:02.000 gonna come out, Okay, you this battle right with the 0:51:03.320 --> 0:51:08.640 Rothers had this battle right now years later. Right, you 0:51:08.680 --> 0:51:13.400 guys are both on depth there, you guys are both 0:51:15.400 --> 0:51:18.120 blacking them artists. And then you guys do this tour. 0:51:19.920 --> 0:51:21.200 What was the name of the talk? Was it the 0:51:21.239 --> 0:51:25.960 hard Life? And it was DMX on there as well, 0:51:27.120 --> 0:51:30.440 and then DMX and I think Hole was sharing the closing. 0:51:30.719 --> 0:51:33.399 I'm not sure you would correct me if I'm wrong. 0:51:33.800 --> 0:51:35.920 And then it was like reading math from the beginning. 0:51:36.640 --> 0:51:38.480 And then it was like Memphis Bleak and then it's 0:51:38.520 --> 0:51:42.319 the it's the famous ship where um def Jam bought 0:51:42.320 --> 0:51:50.040 somebody a jacket, memp Bleak Bleak and answered my course 0:51:50.080 --> 0:52:00.239 and dropped the Gotti drop. So sorry it was let 0:52:00.360 --> 0:52:04.200 let me just give me. But you guys have this tour. 0:52:08.320 --> 0:52:13.879 This was the first hip hop talk no violence. Correct, Yeah, 0:52:14.520 --> 0:52:19.120 sold out shows. I only went to one show. I 0:52:19.120 --> 0:52:24.799 don't know what you guys have been on the block 0:52:26.480 --> 0:52:34.640 drinking basically, okay me, I need I need to describe 0:52:34.680 --> 0:52:39.560 that talk because that tall single handedly was the tall 0:52:39.719 --> 0:52:43.120 that helped set hip hop back. Wasn't the hard night 0:52:43.200 --> 0:52:46.320 life talk, No, it wasn't hard on. What was the 0:52:46.400 --> 0:52:54.319 name of that talk it was? I wasn't the rough Rider. 0:52:55.000 --> 0:53:09.520 It's rough Riders. I think it was again that so 0:53:09.560 --> 0:53:12.719 now let's just stop me if I'm wrong. Deep all 0:53:12.840 --> 0:53:17.680 big it was j d MX and then meth and 0:53:17.760 --> 0:53:23.200 Red prior to that. Yes, it isn't nothing hard enough like, yeah, 0:53:26.080 --> 0:53:34.360 it's Google because right now, so how's you not googling 0:53:36.480 --> 0:53:43.560 my so deep? How was that? Because y'all? Actually RB, 0:53:43.840 --> 0:53:46.799 we also had Earth. I'm sorry her give us so 0:53:46.880 --> 0:53:53.239 much so Herb said, Lee All played all three of 0:53:53.320 --> 0:53:57.399 the clues, meaning he played murder Inc. He made murder 0:53:57.480 --> 0:54:01.080 Inc Happy for one point. Then he came and married 0:54:01.560 --> 0:54:03.320 Rock and Feller have it was hot, and then he 0:54:03.440 --> 0:54:08.839 came and me rough Riders happy, and then he said, 0:54:09.040 --> 0:54:11.879 this is Erv's exact words. We could actually, he said, 0:54:12.040 --> 0:54:16.600 he played us like a fit to do. I think 0:54:16.640 --> 0:54:19.560 we're gonna do that. I don't know. They all definitely 0:54:19.719 --> 0:54:22.920 make us feel anyway against anybody else. You know, Dame 0:54:23.000 --> 0:54:27.200 would have handled that. How about you know it was good. 0:54:27.560 --> 0:54:32.080 We're always good. We're gonna look at on Earth right now. 0:54:35.040 --> 0:54:39.399 That might have been problem. Definitely not a problem for me. 0:54:40.160 --> 0:54:43.879 Different type of problems. Yea, So it's just a case. Yeah, 0:54:43.880 --> 0:54:47.760 I didn't see IRV got the interview. It's on Thursday, 0:54:48.840 --> 0:54:51.960 it's all right now you're talking. You don't know when 0:54:52.000 --> 0:54:54.640 we found this out, but tippy m in case you 0:54:54.680 --> 0:54:59.720 didn't see how they came out already. In case you 0:54:59.760 --> 0:55:04.879 not face Gary, what's up, big face Gary? You were 0:55:04.920 --> 0:55:08.880 the number one soldier of Rocket. Yeah. I love them boys. 0:55:09.280 --> 0:55:12.960 I love traded my life for Round. You still love him? 0:55:14.200 --> 0:55:17.759 Why I have different like? I love that. What was 0:55:17.800 --> 0:55:21.359 your most difficult part of working for Rocket? Full name 0:55:21.440 --> 0:55:23.719 mood swings Man. He was going through a personal shift. 0:55:23.760 --> 0:55:25.560 I don't know what it was. And be honest, he's 0:55:25.640 --> 0:55:28.279 a snap. I used to hang out rest in his bigges, 0:55:28.280 --> 0:55:29.759 big girls. He got in your car, he got a 0:55:29.840 --> 0:55:32.360 rash No, no, well I don't remember that. But you 0:55:32.400 --> 0:55:34.919 know whatever I had, Well, I was a big big brother, 0:55:35.040 --> 0:55:36.600 was my man. I looked up and put me in 0:55:36.680 --> 0:55:39.800 Harlem and anything. I know, God, God bless. But I 0:55:39.880 --> 0:55:41.920 just people that he should never talk to me crazy. 0:55:42.600 --> 0:55:45.520 Since I started working for him. He named Luca Rossi, 0:55:45.560 --> 0:55:48.680 which is a good thing because caause that means everything 0:55:48.719 --> 0:55:51.279 asked me, but I got done. But then I don't 0:55:51.280 --> 0:55:53.320 know that is personal. It's just I will never know them. 0:55:53.360 --> 0:55:56.360 But they started getting real nasty for no reason. But 0:55:56.440 --> 0:56:00.600 now that I'm forty seven, since ten years of his later, 0:56:00.600 --> 0:56:02.600 I know what it was. It was personal things he 0:56:02.640 --> 0:56:04.960 was going through. But I say this on this Mike, 0:56:05.239 --> 0:56:07.600 I loved you, Dame. You put me on, Biggs putting 0:56:07.600 --> 0:56:10.280 me on, and like, Damn you put me on, Biggs 0:56:10.280 --> 0:56:13.000 put me on. If you'd just told me just going through. 0:56:14.520 --> 0:56:16.560 Oh Jay, I don't even talk about Jake. That's my nigga. 0:56:16.600 --> 0:56:24.120 I love Jack, come on not but what you said 0:56:24.160 --> 0:56:27.120 that he always said to me, I shout a big 0:56:27.120 --> 0:56:30.960 story for me, ja, big Dame ja in a minute. 0:56:31.000 --> 0:56:33.160 You know who knows this story. But Biggs got me 0:56:33.200 --> 0:56:35.520 and I love that. But my point is, I love 0:56:35.640 --> 0:56:38.240 Damon bigg so much. But I love Biggs because Bigges 0:56:38.280 --> 0:56:40.359 brother was my man. And Biggs put me on too, 0:56:40.440 --> 0:56:44.160 and our game talking about and our projects. Then Dame 0:56:44.360 --> 0:56:46.480 put me to the game. But the problem what Dame 0:56:46.600 --> 0:56:48.880 my opinion was, he was going through a lot personally 0:56:48.920 --> 0:56:51.600 because I know he's a coluna. Everything's on him. So 0:56:51.640 --> 0:56:53.640 I'm like, I love Dame. Some of your pull me 0:56:53.680 --> 0:56:56.520 to the side. I'm going through something there staring yell 0:56:56.600 --> 0:56:58.600 at me and curse me because you first, I don't 0:56:58.600 --> 0:57:00.440 care if you do, but tell me going to that ship. 0:57:00.680 --> 0:57:02.160 But if you don't know that's coming, as a man, 0:57:02.560 --> 0:57:05.719 you feel like it can't be little. You know. Gee, 0:57:05.719 --> 0:57:08.120 I'm fucked up. I'm going through something. This is driving 0:57:08.120 --> 0:57:09.719 me crazy, all right, But nigga let it all out 0:57:09.719 --> 0:57:11.200 on me because I'm with you. Niggas you put me 0:57:11.239 --> 0:57:13.200 on my life change around, fucking with you. I was 0:57:13.239 --> 0:57:16.200 getting meetings games to before grand funking with Damn and 0:57:16.800 --> 0:57:19.000 just twenty minutes I got four grand in my pocket, 0:57:19.160 --> 0:57:21.240 getting way too deep. Let's wait for that now, stop 0:57:21.360 --> 0:57:24.000 not back what I'm saying. My point is, you asked 0:57:24.000 --> 0:57:26.280 me a question. That's a know youn getting me. No, 0:57:26.320 --> 0:57:27.920 I don't care. I'll take all that ship. But my 0:57:27.960 --> 0:57:30.680 point was I don't smoke. My fucker's just trying. I 0:57:30.720 --> 0:57:34.680 don't know. But the point I'm trying to make was 0:57:34.720 --> 0:57:36.880 that that was like crazy for me. They changed my 0:57:36.920 --> 0:57:39.920 life around, bummb I have two rapper friends in my life. 0:57:40.120 --> 0:57:42.280 Was my friends? Norbody said, Gary, I don't give a 0:57:42.360 --> 0:57:44.479 funk about rap when it comes to you, you're my friend, 0:57:45.040 --> 0:57:47.640 and Boomby said the same thing. Norby said, Gary, this 0:57:47.760 --> 0:57:50.480 more than rocket Fuller, But you embarrassed me said that, No, 0:57:50.760 --> 0:57:55.640 let me tell yourself. One day he killed me. One 0:57:55.680 --> 0:57:57.920 day that they came to my studio. He couldn't have 0:57:58.040 --> 0:58:05.000 a call. I wasn't involved. Was you know the Yankees 0:58:05.040 --> 0:58:08.080 in the World Series. He was like, yeah, we'll be 0:58:08.160 --> 0:58:16.840 trying to perform, yo, you know right? Yeah, I didn't. 0:58:17.360 --> 0:58:20.080 Can make fun of me. Now what you're coming from? 0:58:20.120 --> 0:58:23.160 When I went from going to jail and come home 0:58:23.480 --> 0:58:26.680 and see what we had, you understand my pain? No, 0:58:26.880 --> 0:58:28.920 it's beautiful. Those are my brothers. Now. It was a 0:58:29.000 --> 0:58:31.560 beautiful sense of Floyd's and I got a big story. Now, 0:58:31.960 --> 0:58:33.760 don't say nothing. Now they ever say, yo, show you 0:58:33.840 --> 0:58:39.680 would laxat me up. I would win the battles, but 0:58:40.200 --> 0:58:42.560 with speed. That's when Nas came off getting over that. 0:58:42.600 --> 0:58:44.960 It was no, it was jokes, Nas j She was real. 0:58:45.360 --> 0:58:48.040 We goes Jake goes Ja put up a million dollars 0:58:48.360 --> 0:58:50.400 and said, you put up a verse. I put a verse. 0:58:51.120 --> 0:58:53.360 Whoever wind't getting million dollars? No, they can't afford it 0:58:54.280 --> 0:58:58.120 with the speed. That night, Jake literally said, you're big face. 0:58:58.240 --> 0:59:00.160 He did a show for free. I think remember us, 0:59:00.480 --> 0:59:02.840 we don't. He didn't show for free. He did a 0:59:02.920 --> 0:59:04.720 show for free. He's a big face and want you 0:59:04.760 --> 0:59:07.000 to come with me because what's all that? Everybody? Don't 0:59:07.080 --> 0:59:14.200 let nobody take my hat. I heard you say this story. Yeah, 0:59:14.240 --> 0:59:16.080 all the time, every show we did, it didn't matter, 0:59:16.120 --> 0:59:17.840 he said, only my hat. We did. The show in 0:59:17.920 --> 0:59:21.800 Speed was for free. He said, your big face. He 0:59:22.000 --> 0:59:25.120 texted me we had two ways. I'm silver ships. You're 0:59:25.240 --> 0:59:28.200 good for the game. The game, the game needs you. 0:59:29.200 --> 0:59:32.040 I'll never forget that text. Man. But they were taking 0:59:32.080 --> 0:59:35.480 his hat. He made regular Ja's icon. Man, that's what 0:59:35.600 --> 0:59:41.360 it happens. Man, it's a superstar woman. My big is. 0:59:41.400 --> 0:59:43.160 What I'm saying is you said all that. It was 0:59:43.240 --> 0:59:45.640 rocking full up. I go from making two fifty I 0:59:45.760 --> 0:59:48.520 was in jail, came home from doing two hundred fifty 0:59:48.560 --> 0:59:51.520 hours a week to making thirty. Granted to hang out 0:59:51.560 --> 0:59:53.760 with them and joking, get snapped on, and we snapped 0:59:53.760 --> 0:59:57.200 back to make a seventy grand week. So if they 0:59:57.320 --> 0:59:59.440 looking big, I get three grand. If they say hello 0:59:59.520 --> 1:00:02.920 with Dame, I get five grand. Why would I love them? No? 1:00:03.120 --> 1:00:05.680 I nobody never said I just knew that. You didn't 1:00:05.720 --> 1:00:12.080 knew uh a life outside of it? That broke down, 1:00:12.280 --> 1:00:15.040 slow down, some sad. Somehow I saw how how how 1:00:15.160 --> 1:00:17.880 bad was it when when Rocket Feller closed, I walked 1:00:17.920 --> 1:00:21.000 in one day, people are Mike, I ain't even known name. 1:00:21.080 --> 1:00:27.000 People crying. Then you're crying for dame. Dame said it's over. 1:00:31.680 --> 1:00:37.160 Question what so you walking walking over a little bit. 1:00:37.360 --> 1:00:39.600 You come in to work, regular work. I'm ready to work, 1:00:39.640 --> 1:00:43.920 getting my money, do what I do. And then people crying. 1:00:44.440 --> 1:00:48.000 You walk in and rest in peace, calling that Dame's 1:00:48.360 --> 1:00:52.320 uncle he died, I said, call my ready crying the 1:00:52.400 --> 1:00:56.240 labels over, Gary, ain't nothing left? And what did you say? 1:00:57.480 --> 1:01:00.439 I was, I was a joker for us, said I left. 1:01:00.880 --> 1:01:03.320 It's over, Gary. Do you don't know I'm going to 1:01:03.360 --> 1:01:06.760 corput ship my niggas got hundreds of millions. I'm looking 1:01:06.800 --> 1:01:14.840 for my fucking sevens. You're telling about d d MG 1:01:15.000 --> 1:01:16.480 that rocket full. Yeah, that's why I just said. I 1:01:16.560 --> 1:01:18.680 just said that. Then I just said that was the last. 1:01:18.760 --> 1:01:21.480 I just said, Dan that musical Bay said that. Yeah. 1:01:21.520 --> 1:01:23.960 I remember walked in the office and I see I said, 1:01:24.080 --> 1:01:26.640 damn Dash music Group. I said that Basie to hear me, 1:01:26.840 --> 1:01:28.480 and I said, it's nothing here. And then I was like, wow, 1:01:28.560 --> 1:01:31.920 people are crying, and I was mean. Dames started arguing, 1:01:32.560 --> 1:01:34.920 didn't want to fight. I want to fight, and it 1:01:35.040 --> 1:01:37.240 was so funny. Beans was there that day being sent 1:01:37.280 --> 1:01:39.240 me the Philly for a week because I want to fight. 1:01:39.320 --> 1:01:44.000 I was so basically, but I also see I came 1:01:44.080 --> 1:01:47.360 to your house. I came to Beanie seagull house, and 1:01:47.480 --> 1:01:51.400 he sick that alligate on you. It was I'm trying 1:01:51.400 --> 1:01:54.439 to get the verse and nord says, even when Nordy says, 1:01:54.440 --> 1:01:56.840 you were doing fun Ja do the right look, you 1:01:57.960 --> 1:02:00.960 had me trying to get the bed segu for Bigamy 1:02:01.360 --> 1:02:03.919 this nigga big Sam, we gotta go to this grid 1:02:03.960 --> 1:02:08.240 and something like Bigamy mess had he had a attack phase. 1:02:08.320 --> 1:02:16.080 I'm like, yo, I don't need to I'm doing with 1:02:16.160 --> 1:02:18.880 the big Hammy mess arized, nunc Rosie, get it done. 1:02:18.920 --> 1:02:21.960 So I'm fighting fighting yo, this mom, Yo, this ship, 1:02:22.000 --> 1:02:31.920 I still got the most ship. Start a little book yo, Yo, 1:02:32.640 --> 1:02:39.680 Universe tonight, I'm feel like you got something person. But 1:02:39.840 --> 1:02:42.479 that's but that's some I love rocket full. I would 1:02:42.520 --> 1:02:45.240 have anything for No. No, we're gonna we're gonna ending 1:02:45.400 --> 1:02:48.280 like that. I got you. I love that. I love that, 1:02:48.680 --> 1:02:50.920 I love that. I've never seen loyal to like, and 1:02:51.000 --> 1:02:53.440 I've never seen loyal to like big Nig. The thing 1:02:53.480 --> 1:02:57.840 about it was I never It's just this is crazy, 1:02:57.960 --> 1:03:00.040 like when we when Shini read let's big Up. I 1:03:00.120 --> 1:03:02.200 even read big Up with Ma Duke to big up 1:03:02.200 --> 1:03:05.160 a vote TV. They hit me and it was like, yo, 1:03:05.240 --> 1:03:08.120 you know what I think, Biggs want to do it tonight. 1:03:08.160 --> 1:03:10.640 And I'm like, all right, cool. And the reason why 1:03:10.760 --> 1:03:14.200 I hit you as well, and D from Rough Riders 1:03:14.800 --> 1:03:24.400 is because building Phil Champboo as well. But at the 1:03:24.520 --> 1:03:28.080 end of the day, when I look at Big Face Gary, 1:03:28.600 --> 1:03:31.360 I look at D from Rough Riders, and I look 1:03:31.400 --> 1:03:35.600 at motherfucking Biggs, I look at them probably the most 1:03:35.680 --> 1:03:41.560 loyal people in the industry really, And when I when 1:03:41.600 --> 1:03:46.400 I say that, I say that with the utmost sincerity 1:03:47.960 --> 1:03:53.640 because it was at one point where if I could 1:03:53.640 --> 1:03:56.040 have came to you and said this artist is doing 1:03:56.120 --> 1:03:57.680 such and such, D would have looked at me and 1:03:57.760 --> 1:04:04.840 so winning was the came of the bigs. The bigs 1:04:04.880 --> 1:04:10.080 would have been like, we're winning. I getn't even came 1:04:10.120 --> 1:04:13.000 to you, this thing, couldn't. He couldn't see any His 1:04:13.240 --> 1:04:16.880 vision was rock are Let me let me say I'm 1:04:16.880 --> 1:04:18.920 working about him. I don't think he's gonna remember any 1:04:18.960 --> 1:04:21.440 of the but you know, I did the streets for 1:04:21.600 --> 1:04:26.040 all y'all in Miami, death jail. I did Rockefeller. Actually 1:04:26.080 --> 1:04:27.760 I got a little confused when we had Jim Jones 1:04:27.800 --> 1:04:30.480 on the pod and I said your name and I 1:04:30.560 --> 1:04:32.160 said aunt live and I got a little confused. But 1:04:32.160 --> 1:04:34.880 I remember now now you're talking right now. I remember 1:04:34.920 --> 1:04:39.040 the conference calls when you would jump on and it 1:04:39.160 --> 1:04:42.080 was just pure passion, like he was just so into 1:04:42.240 --> 1:04:43.840 what he was talking about, and it was it's just 1:04:43.920 --> 1:04:45.720 I'm hearing it all over again right now, and it's 1:04:45.720 --> 1:04:48.400 just the passion was there. It's always been there. Man. 1:04:48.440 --> 1:04:51.160 You got understand man, when you come, I'm not coming 1:04:51.160 --> 1:04:52.840 to us. Had a good parents, I did well for 1:04:52.960 --> 1:05:02.360 myself and from Haiti dB teeth. What I'm saying is 1:05:02.400 --> 1:05:04.880 this that I'm coming from the streets. I did some 1:05:05.000 --> 1:05:07.880 time in jail. I came home. Yeah, say that again, 1:05:08.120 --> 1:05:15.720 my fresh one twice, big talking. What you got that 1:05:22.920 --> 1:05:25.080 the top of anywhere? That what I'm saying is that 1:05:25.880 --> 1:05:27.920 Rocket Fudd was kind of crazy. Like I said, all 1:05:27.960 --> 1:05:31.240 I knew, I'm gonna I'm gonna interject for you one second. 1:05:32.080 --> 1:05:34.280 I don't want to say one thing. I was in 1:05:34.400 --> 1:05:37.520 this game. I was getting money, but I did not 1:05:37.720 --> 1:05:42.040 know how to have fun. Meaning I knew how to 1:05:42.080 --> 1:05:44.840 get the money. I knew how to spend it. I 1:05:44.960 --> 1:05:48.680 just didn't know how to have fun. And it was Big. 1:05:50.360 --> 1:05:56.880 I gottaver lack. Let me feel out. I'm big. Look 1:05:56.960 --> 1:06:01.240 at me and be like, this is real ship. This 1:06:01.320 --> 1:06:03.160 is real ship. I'm not even trying to be funny. 1:06:04.040 --> 1:06:07.000 Big just look at me and be like yeah, because 1:06:07.000 --> 1:06:09.080 he knew we was having funk if he was drinking, 1:06:09.880 --> 1:06:12.760 but I didn't know how to display it, like I 1:06:12.840 --> 1:06:14.760 didn't know how to be like like to show the 1:06:14.840 --> 1:06:16.640 world like if it was Instagram back then, I would 1:06:16.640 --> 1:06:19.600 have been finished because my grand would have been trashed. 1:06:21.120 --> 1:06:24.360 And this is real ship. I gotta give it to 1:06:24.480 --> 1:06:27.520 Biggs ending like I gotta be. And they, honestly, they 1:06:27.600 --> 1:06:30.080 came to me and was like, yo, nigga, you're making money. 1:06:30.240 --> 1:06:38.720 Have fun, and they would have first thank you. Okay, 1:06:39.320 --> 1:06:44.760 that's okay, but y'all was the first two people that 1:06:45.040 --> 1:06:47.960 like you came to me and and and enforced that 1:06:48.080 --> 1:06:52.080 to me. I was like, yo, nigga, you're getting money, 1:06:53.400 --> 1:06:57.000 Smile and have fun. And do what you gotta do 1:06:57.880 --> 1:07:00.439 so and I wouldn't really your artists and that time, 1:07:00.560 --> 1:07:03.080 this is like I was in all your movies. What 1:07:03.400 --> 1:07:06.720 made y'all you said at that time? I'm never signed 1:07:06.760 --> 1:07:17.360 a deal. We canna what I'm saying this big y'all 1:07:17.400 --> 1:07:21.080 would tell other artists from other places how to move 1:07:21.160 --> 1:07:24.640 and how to do that. There was there wasn't other 1:07:24.720 --> 1:07:27.200 than indeed, there wasn't no other people that was doing that. 1:07:28.000 --> 1:07:31.640 Why why why did you even insinuate that? I mean, 1:07:31.720 --> 1:07:33.640 that's just how he was. You know, we didn't hate 1:07:33.640 --> 1:07:36.560 on nobody movement and whatever we did, we tried to 1:07:36.600 --> 1:07:38.400 bust down the door to make sure that somebody else 1:07:38.440 --> 1:07:40.560 be able to walk through. So you know what I 1:07:40.640 --> 1:07:43.760 mean when we're flying around, we showed, right, I showed 1:07:43.760 --> 1:07:45.880 everybody around the world under what you were saying. You 1:07:45.920 --> 1:07:48.000 couldn't go to London or southing right, No, I couldn't 1:07:48.000 --> 1:07:49.680 go to London. You'a got me a pass. I don't know. 1:07:53.240 --> 1:07:58.160 You've got a lot of ship. We'll have a little 1:07:58.240 --> 1:08:01.000 good tell us who was so terrible? We ate chicken? 1:08:01.040 --> 1:08:04.360 Remember there was no more chicken the hotel. We yea 1:08:05.320 --> 1:08:08.760 saying the story way too horrid. You know what I'm doing, 1:08:09.160 --> 1:08:11.600 say the story. Say the story. When I don't care 1:08:11.680 --> 1:08:13.200 you want to say it, I'm gonna say how to 1:08:13.200 --> 1:08:16.639 say I'm being Gary, Okay, I know within the food 1:08:16.760 --> 1:08:20.000 hard London was horrible and we ate chicken every day. 1:08:20.360 --> 1:08:22.360 And we were starring one day and we said where 1:08:22.640 --> 1:08:24.800 once the chicken that said, there's no more chicken, but 1:08:27.000 --> 1:08:30.360 everything out that's doing chicken to the hotel. Not tell 1:08:30.400 --> 1:08:35.040 your songs races. This is not how it happened. I 1:08:36.080 --> 1:08:40.960 remember a great member. Anyway, we kept going to Damon, 1:08:41.040 --> 1:08:46.320 Big Scrift. We kept going there getting drunk with London, 1:08:46.520 --> 1:08:48.600 and then we kept going back to the hotel. And 1:08:48.680 --> 1:08:50.320 every time we go back to the hotel was me 1:08:50.560 --> 1:08:55.280 you beans Freeway Midfleet and we ate out all the 1:08:55.479 --> 1:08:58.920 chicken in the hotel. That's what happened. I just missed apartment, 1:08:58.960 --> 1:09:02.280 got theren like my shoes, what are you all slip? Yeah, 1:09:03.760 --> 1:09:07.720 the whole concert full, but we were dropped. I wasn't 1:09:07.720 --> 1:09:10.200 never stopping on that had a swimming pull in their 1:09:10.240 --> 1:09:15.280 room had a swimming and that's so ridiculous, ridiculous us 1:09:17.880 --> 1:09:22.920 any co London things like oh they had had they 1:09:22.960 --> 1:09:29.160 had they had a swimmer. Yeah, this is crazy. I've 1:09:29.200 --> 1:09:31.920 never seen that black frack. We gotta now they play 1:09:32.880 --> 1:09:37.080 there's no are you serious about the instructor my name? 1:09:37.080 --> 1:09:38.720 And they had a think of that you jump in 1:09:38.920 --> 1:09:42.160 this way. I was like, they had a cheff to say, 1:09:42.200 --> 1:09:48.719 you eat this way. This is that's the booge noticed 1:09:48.920 --> 1:09:50.920 that you ain't no budget. That was the rich side. 1:09:51.040 --> 1:09:52.640 Then me, you got back to the got to what 1:09:52.760 --> 1:09:56.200 we know, but we was getting we had. We appreciated 1:09:56.960 --> 1:09:59.960 big time. We appreciate it. We appreciated. When they came 1:10:00.160 --> 1:10:03.880 out with pastries. I didn't even know what pastries. I 1:10:04.000 --> 1:10:06.559 was like, the chef came out this and it's pastries. 1:10:10.680 --> 1:10:15.280 My mother was all right, listen, I listen to this. 1:10:15.439 --> 1:10:16.880 Let's get to it because I know big want to 1:10:16.920 --> 1:10:22.639 get to it right. This is what happened. Rocket Fella 1:10:22.840 --> 1:10:28.240 and Do Entertainment had a drink drink off. What it was. 1:10:29.120 --> 1:10:30.760 I don't know how this happened. I felt like it 1:10:30.840 --> 1:10:35.000 was together, but they wanted to separate niggas from from 1:10:35.040 --> 1:10:38.040 immediately once it came to drink. Got to break down 1:10:38.080 --> 1:10:42.759 this drink off in the crib. Now, Lazie, I cannot 1:10:42.800 --> 1:10:47.720 shoot on leaz Leazie drank every bottle, but now it's 1:10:47.760 --> 1:10:52.440 no more Vodkas, no more Armadale. Now remember Armadale is gasoline, 1:10:53.320 --> 1:11:00.600 big time. Let's go. It's Armadale. You can light that. 1:11:00.680 --> 1:11:03.600 Shut up and you can fill your gas take off 1:11:03.720 --> 1:11:07.160 with This is the original armadal not the ship. You 1:11:07.200 --> 1:11:11.080 know he got going over. It's not a good but 1:11:13.800 --> 1:11:17.439 so we were battling. There's no more over there and 1:11:17.640 --> 1:11:19.720 my nigga down. Lazie just fall to sleep. But what's 1:11:19.760 --> 1:11:24.200 the battle? How's it? How's the battle? Anything on the table? 1:11:24.360 --> 1:11:27.320 If you shake shot big, we could go, go, go go. 1:11:27.520 --> 1:11:35.240 There's multiple bottles, like different liquors. I'll take bags, so 1:11:35.360 --> 1:11:37.960 you know what I mean. I don't say, do we 1:11:38.120 --> 1:11:41.800 ballot niggaspend on bas moms up with bat. I don't 1:11:41.840 --> 1:11:44.320 want to say that ship, but we battle. I'm hanging 1:11:44.360 --> 1:11:46.200 in there, you know, I have the man up. Yeah, 1:11:46.320 --> 1:11:48.040 let me tell you something to me and Dame. This 1:11:48.479 --> 1:11:52.559 bit me and Dame is big. It's him and Leazie. 1:11:52.600 --> 1:11:57.120 Now Lazie is sitting there. He's good. But then it's 1:11:57.160 --> 1:12:01.280 the last shot. Leazie say it's no more and he's like, 1:12:01.400 --> 1:12:11.360 just no more vodka leaze what is says you're right? 1:12:11.560 --> 1:12:20.240 Then after Walker said, say, let's say you're lazy, I 1:12:21.120 --> 1:12:28.439 smiling and that ain't He'll be like, yo, it's not 1:12:28.640 --> 1:12:31.120 no little hour that basketball. I was like, who in that? 1:12:31.240 --> 1:12:34.160 Ha'm moving? And then I was like, yo, you're sure. 1:12:34.240 --> 1:12:40.960 Your man is like I'm like I look, I'm like 1:12:41.080 --> 1:12:45.160 I know I'm not. And then Lazie over the other 1:12:49.120 --> 1:12:50.920 he just he looked at me and like one of 1:12:51.000 --> 1:12:56.280 the he gave me that you gotta relax, big up 1:12:56.320 --> 1:13:01.040 down least we love you, motherfighth I drink, I'll drink 1:13:01.080 --> 1:13:06.200 biggs Man with dive Ball big week. But now, Rough Riders, 1:13:07.200 --> 1:13:12.760 um Rockefeller, you guys knew each other coming up. Could 1:13:12.800 --> 1:13:18.400 they ever implicate error like you guys had Rough Riders, 1:13:19.840 --> 1:13:30.040 Rocket Feller, even Murder, okay, Randy Aca. Could there ever 1:13:30.160 --> 1:13:32.519 be another error like that? I don't know. It's gonna 1:13:32.520 --> 1:13:36.200 be tough because a lot of everybody's independent. Now. It's 1:13:36.240 --> 1:13:38.559 not like somebody trying to build labels. It's like artists 1:13:38.600 --> 1:13:41.000 is trying to do their own thing themselves, you know 1:13:41.000 --> 1:13:43.880 what I mean. But with that, I mean everybody. You 1:13:44.000 --> 1:13:46.880 got three crews strong, all selling three, four or five 1:13:46.920 --> 1:13:51.240 million records every single time they come out. That I 1:13:51.280 --> 1:13:54.200 mean that it's hard to replicate that. You don't even 1:13:54.439 --> 1:13:57.960 you don't sell those amount of records anymore. He said 1:13:58.000 --> 1:14:01.040 that too. What guy he said was lee All played 1:14:01.200 --> 1:14:05.759 rough Riders, Rockefeller and Murdered Inc against each other because 1:14:06.280 --> 1:14:09.920 every three months it would be an album that would drop. 1:14:10.320 --> 1:14:13.080 So le All would give love to Rockefeller when Rockefeller 1:14:13.160 --> 1:14:15.960 dropped the album, we didn't. I didn't really nobody really 1:14:16.000 --> 1:14:18.519 care who Leo gave. I mean, it was it's still 1:14:18.600 --> 1:14:22.160 a competition, whether it's in house or not. If DMX 1:14:22.200 --> 1:14:24.040 come out, he's selling four million records, we want to 1:14:24.080 --> 1:14:25.800 come out and sell four or five million records. If 1:14:25.880 --> 1:14:27.960 John come out and selling three million. And mean, it 1:14:28.040 --> 1:14:31.559 ain't even just with them anybody, but it just so happened. 1:14:31.600 --> 1:14:33.600 We know each other, so it's like damn, you know 1:14:33.640 --> 1:14:36.960 what I mean, like you know, and in the access 1:14:37.000 --> 1:14:39.560 and you know, with that relationship, that's how Swiss. You know, 1:14:40.120 --> 1:14:42.640 we got introduced the Swiss from from them to you know, 1:14:43.080 --> 1:14:44.880 and I'm gonna bringing them in office that day. That 1:14:45.000 --> 1:14:46.880 was I think that was the first Beati producer actually 1:14:46.920 --> 1:15:02.920 with money cash Holesney TV before that because no, because 1:15:03.280 --> 1:15:04.920 me and Dan went to go hear that because Swiss 1:15:05.000 --> 1:15:09.920 had to hook for it to me and Dane. Just 1:15:10.080 --> 1:15:12.120 listening to it over and over and over, we called 1:15:12.400 --> 1:15:16.960 Jay like, yo, you gotta come do this ship. Yeah, 1:15:19.600 --> 1:15:24.479 let me tell you something. Okay, Swiss, stand understand how 1:15:24.560 --> 1:15:29.240 that happened, because Swiss is alright, alright, alright in my mind, 1:15:29.479 --> 1:15:34.559 like mind you this is from my world. I think 1:15:35.120 --> 1:15:37.760 I'm not sure it wasn't alive, wasn't involved. I think 1:15:37.760 --> 1:15:41.960 it's mart and Moore, we'll hit you. And then and 1:15:42.080 --> 1:15:46.920 said we got a guy named It wasn't Swiss at 1:15:46.960 --> 1:15:51.640 this time. It was just your nephew, his nephew. That's 1:15:51.680 --> 1:15:55.040 what we're saying. He's nephew. I'm like, all right, everybody 1:15:55.040 --> 1:15:59.519 like he's the guy to respect, Okay, I'm respecting, Like 1:16:00.000 --> 1:16:03.160 his nephew got beats and he came down and then 1:16:03.320 --> 1:16:07.040 we did band from TV. Right, so Ravitt was actually 1:16:07.120 --> 1:16:11.840 recorded before Stop Dropped, right, Stop Drop came out maybe 1:16:11.920 --> 1:16:16.840 the year it came up the same year, right. But 1:16:17.000 --> 1:16:21.880 then Swiss, just how did you know because he was 1:16:21.960 --> 1:16:25.200 your nephew, how did you know this was the next guy? 1:16:25.800 --> 1:16:28.120 Because you had Dame Greece at the time. Correct, we 1:16:28.200 --> 1:16:31.600 had Greece, we had Pek, had a bunch of producers, 1:16:31.680 --> 1:16:33.800 but he was he was just the youngest. He was. 1:16:33.920 --> 1:16:35.960 He had learned from a lot of things from everybody 1:16:36.439 --> 1:16:38.040 and kind of put it together and came up with 1:16:38.120 --> 1:16:40.639 his own sound because it was at a point where 1:16:41.360 --> 1:16:43.720 he wasn't getting no beats and so we'd be like, yeah, 1:16:43.760 --> 1:16:46.120 that's gonna put that back over there, and so we 1:16:46.479 --> 1:16:49.600 keep on working. So with God was his determination. Like 1:16:49.680 --> 1:16:52.519 he used to live with me, So I'm going home. 1:16:52.520 --> 1:16:53.960 He'd be like, no, I'm gonna stay right here. I'm 1:16:53.960 --> 1:16:55.479 gonna just stay there. So he had to stay there 1:16:55.520 --> 1:16:58.240 all night and I'll come in. He got fifteen new 1:16:58.320 --> 1:17:01.519 beats every day for all the years straight, basically, and 1:17:01.600 --> 1:17:03.840 then then he figured it out. You had to figure 1:17:03.840 --> 1:17:06.720 it out and find this style. And when you brought 1:17:06.800 --> 1:17:08.280 him to us, he had like a hunt in something 1:17:08.320 --> 1:17:10.680 beats like that. Wasn't heard of a producer to have 1:17:10.880 --> 1:17:16.519 something like that at that time. Guess about bands from 1:17:16.560 --> 1:17:19.920 TV story because they're just here too. Because listen, listen, 1:17:20.360 --> 1:17:21.720 might as well get into I gotta take a piss 1:17:21.760 --> 1:17:26.360 for quick, So listen, I'm gonna be honest. Don't forget 1:17:26.400 --> 1:17:29.479 the talking band from TV. The first beat that wasn't 1:17:29.479 --> 1:17:36.200 the beat that was supposed to be let me take 1:17:36.200 --> 1:17:40.680 you on something this No one let me take Look. 1:17:40.720 --> 1:17:42.479 I wouldn't want to tell a story why he's right here. 1:17:43.600 --> 1:17:48.680 What happened was NAS was on the War Report out m. 1:17:49.800 --> 1:17:52.800 He was on the record called music Make These thus calm. 1:17:53.400 --> 1:17:55.200 Have you ever heard that record? That record is not 1:17:55.280 --> 1:17:57.720 a fishal. It's never been clear. It was supposed to 1:17:57.760 --> 1:18:00.680 be on the War Report album. What happened was us 1:18:04.479 --> 1:18:10.280 I don't know, but it never was clear. Colombia, Yeah, 1:18:10.479 --> 1:18:12.120 it never was clear. I don't want to get into 1:18:12.200 --> 1:18:14.880 particulars because I don't really remember what it was that 1:18:15.360 --> 1:18:18.439 for this moment. So Naas and Jungle, pick up Jungle 1:18:18.479 --> 1:18:20.400 and pick up Nas. They had called me and said, Yo, 1:18:21.000 --> 1:18:23.240 we want to pay you back for that. I was like, 1:18:23.360 --> 1:18:25.200 all right, bet. They said you were gonna, you know, 1:18:25.720 --> 1:18:28.360 do the Firm album. I had never heard of what 1:18:28.560 --> 1:18:33.559 the firm was. Nobody had never announced that. Foxy Ezy 1:18:33.640 --> 1:18:35.280 they they had never announced this. So when they said 1:18:35.280 --> 1:18:38.040 the Firm, I'm like up. I was like a bunch 1:18:38.040 --> 1:18:42.439 of lawyers is about to do album? And that's how 1:18:42.479 --> 1:18:44.920 I thought. When I heard of the firm, I'm like, 1:18:44.960 --> 1:18:47.960 all right, cool. They said, Yo, we're gonna come to Miami. 1:18:48.040 --> 1:18:50.439 I had never been to Miami this time, so I 1:18:50.520 --> 1:18:54.680 can't wait on the Miami. We'll God. So let me 1:18:54.720 --> 1:18:58.280 just make a longest story short. So I actually came 1:18:59.600 --> 1:19:04.400 and it was Nature's session when I landed for the 1:19:04.479 --> 1:19:08.479 firm out and I don't I forget for what reason 1:19:08.640 --> 1:19:11.519 Nature had landed later or something, I don't know. That's 1:19:11.560 --> 1:19:13.479 how I'm leaving came about it. In my opinion. You 1:19:13.520 --> 1:19:15.880 can you can, you can tell me know, so I can't. 1:19:15.960 --> 1:19:19.160 In fact, I'm sucking up. When I first landed it, 1:19:19.479 --> 1:19:22.560 Dre had played me the bloody money meat first, so 1:19:22.680 --> 1:19:24.400 I did that, and then you came in. This is 1:19:24.479 --> 1:19:27.960 your session, though, and then you came in and then 1:19:28.320 --> 1:19:31.720 I'm leaving me came on and I did my verse 1:19:31.880 --> 1:19:35.439 and you never you never said why he spitting that 1:19:36.439 --> 1:19:39.120 we he And that's the reason why I banned from TV. 1:19:41.000 --> 1:19:44.920 I was like this, Nick, I don't even you gotta 1:19:44.960 --> 1:19:47.800 speaking to Mike brother. It's a microphone over, yeah, speak 1:19:47.840 --> 1:19:51.000 over the f sre. But but we'll get you later. 1:19:51.080 --> 1:19:57.200 But so what I'm saying was before that we was 1:19:57.280 --> 1:20:00.600 doing band. So I did banned from TV because I 1:20:00.640 --> 1:20:03.200 wanted to pay Nature back for not being a hater, 1:20:03.600 --> 1:20:07.320 for just sitting back and just I know, nobody told 1:20:07.400 --> 1:20:10.120 him I was coming and I came in. I just 1:20:10.360 --> 1:20:13.080 worked and they just never just he cou could have 1:20:13.160 --> 1:20:15.639 been like, I'm firm, this NI is not firm. Give 1:20:15.720 --> 1:20:17.960 him the funk out of here. You never did they 1:20:18.160 --> 1:20:21.400 I respected to this day. I still love you. Have 1:20:21.479 --> 1:20:23.320 my real phone though, just in case you don't know, 1:20:24.760 --> 1:20:30.920 you gotta relax, So listen solo, let me remix it. 1:20:30.960 --> 1:20:35.800 I'm sorry. So there was an original beat, so I 1:20:35.880 --> 1:20:39.280 tried to get him and Swiss gave me the LSB 1:20:45.120 --> 1:20:49.760 and they just said, I don't like I gotta pay 1:20:49.840 --> 1:20:53.559 this guy back. He just let me live the firm out. 1:20:54.479 --> 1:20:57.880 But this is the LSB. I'm looking at this nigger 1:20:57.920 --> 1:21:00.599 like I want to choke you. He's like, I don't 1:21:00.600 --> 1:21:03.400 like that beat, and then then he plays another beat. 1:21:03.439 --> 1:21:06.759 Then he Swiss plays another beat, and then the Swiss 1:21:06.760 --> 1:21:09.120 plays and beat, and then this is the beat that 1:21:09.160 --> 1:21:10.560 where he's supposed to be. It's supposed to be just 1:21:10.680 --> 1:21:13.880 me and nature, and Nature takes two hours, He's like, 1:21:16.120 --> 1:21:20.439 he's writing this ship and then Swiss was Swiss looked 1:21:20.479 --> 1:21:23.519 at Nate. He said, you don't like this speak and 1:21:23.600 --> 1:21:27.439 then they goes and the Swiss players band from TV 1:21:27.840 --> 1:21:34.560 and they wrote his verse in twenty five seconds and 1:21:34.720 --> 1:21:38.960 my live late like and then this is the time 1:21:39.000 --> 1:21:41.800 where you don't tell a person you don't. You just 1:21:41.880 --> 1:21:48.400 be like, yo, it's cool, it's cool. Okay, now I'm sorry, 1:21:48.439 --> 1:21:51.280 I'm sorry. I had I just follow. I don't know. Yeah, 1:21:51.840 --> 1:21:53.720 we getting back to brock Fell the rough Riders. Man, 1:21:54.240 --> 1:22:00.400 So your big face gay you enter the game. Mh 1:22:02.680 --> 1:22:07.200 your vision is only rocket f Yes? How did your 1:22:07.320 --> 1:22:11.120 vision develop like that? How did that? Even because I 1:22:11.160 --> 1:22:13.200 didn't even know names? Biggs? How the friend was? And 1:22:15.240 --> 1:22:17.439 I don't want to do no? I said the big friend, 1:22:19.120 --> 1:22:22.040 big name, biggest name, had a friends and all, and 1:22:22.080 --> 1:22:25.120 he Biggs is the boss. Biggs fired him and I 1:22:25.240 --> 1:22:27.760 made some moves based on the like I may stay 1:22:27.840 --> 1:22:30.840 properly my friends. They all liked me, and I just 1:22:30.960 --> 1:22:33.559 started working hard. I don't know how to mix recordsized 1:22:33.640 --> 1:22:35.439 to called bags based taught him everything I know. When 1:22:35.479 --> 1:22:37.400 it comes in, I said, called bagel, Bagel by said 1:22:37.439 --> 1:22:39.800 bags taught me a lot of ship and they said, 1:22:40.040 --> 1:22:42.840 and then we got I just kept working and I said, 1:22:42.880 --> 1:22:45.400 basically not big face is not mixed, right, bag you buggle. 1:22:46.479 --> 1:22:49.000 He was fair though you bucket. It's not right. It's 1:22:49.000 --> 1:22:51.000 that hell of the air. Then he taught me I 1:22:51.080 --> 1:22:53.880 got better and better, and bigg this is your niche 1:22:54.240 --> 1:22:56.720 they like you, so they probably your yo group. Do 1:22:56.880 --> 1:22:59.000 your thing. And then the Biggs left them to me. 1:22:59.200 --> 1:23:01.280 Biggs is to do the front. I do all the 1:23:01.400 --> 1:23:06.479 music studio. It's what do you like? I fixed? And 1:23:06.560 --> 1:23:09.600 then I was it now bis, Now what made you 1:23:09.720 --> 1:23:14.320 guys actually try to make people bosses their self because 1:23:14.400 --> 1:23:17.679 most regulator, especially right now, they get an artist, they're 1:23:17.720 --> 1:23:20.120 hot and they want a three sixty m. You guys 1:23:20.200 --> 1:23:22.799 are actually getting the artist, getting them hot and actually 1:23:23.040 --> 1:23:25.840 making them bosses. Goes back to what I was saying 1:23:25.920 --> 1:23:28.439 opening the doors. But at another thing is when we 1:23:28.520 --> 1:23:30.120 signed out there, we knew we were just gonna sell 1:23:30.160 --> 1:23:32.840 a company in a certain amount of time. So Rockefeller 1:23:32.920 --> 1:23:37.479 wasn't gonna last. Yeah, So you know, most people don't 1:23:37.520 --> 1:23:39.160 know when you get in the business, you you build 1:23:39.200 --> 1:23:40.880 and sell a company. That's where you make you know 1:23:40.960 --> 1:23:43.720 your money at the end of the day. So there's 1:23:43.760 --> 1:23:46.000 always a multiple, right, So whatever you're doing at the 1:23:46.080 --> 1:23:48.680 end of the year, whether it's a five x, three x, 1:23:48.760 --> 1:23:53.280 ten x whatever, each industry has a you know, uh, 1:23:54.360 --> 1:23:57.200 an industry standard. But we knew we was gonna sell 1:23:57.240 --> 1:23:59.759 a company, so it was about making everybody else bosses. 1:23:59.840 --> 1:24:02.160 So after he had gone, they can do their own thing. 1:24:03.680 --> 1:24:09.000 That's incredible now now now right. The thing about it 1:24:09.280 --> 1:24:14.160 was we're here that you guys had the lots. You 1:24:14.240 --> 1:24:18.599 guys had DMX, you guys had even an the same time. 1:24:18.720 --> 1:24:23.760 Eve came later. Correct, yeah, Eve came, But you guys 1:24:23.920 --> 1:24:28.519 the lots and DMX. What made what made y'all see 1:24:30.160 --> 1:24:35.080 that X will be the guy to go more multi? What? What? What? 1:24:35.240 --> 1:24:37.240 What gave you the insight for that? Oh? We gave 1:24:37.280 --> 1:24:40.439 you the insight for that. It was we already knew 1:24:40.479 --> 1:24:42.679 who was to pick up the litter at that point, 1:24:42.880 --> 1:24:50.840 to pick up the er, because we had him already 1:24:50.920 --> 1:24:53.320 years before they even got on, So we already knew 1:24:53.600 --> 1:24:56.960 who was who. It doesn't matter you had a good 1:24:57.000 --> 1:24:58.800 song or you have you thought you was next. I 1:24:58.880 --> 1:25:01.760 knew who he was. So it was pretty easy for 1:25:01.840 --> 1:25:04.680 us because we didn't. We never really got artists and 1:25:04.760 --> 1:25:07.000 didn't know who they were before we put them on, 1:25:07.080 --> 1:25:08.880 so we knew X was to pick. He was the 1:25:08.960 --> 1:25:11.760 main one, period point blank on enderstand, and all the 1:25:11.880 --> 1:25:15.080 artists knew that. Now now because now let let me 1:25:15.120 --> 1:25:17.200 stop you, Renny. I'm gonna get a vote leave Bowie 1:25:17.280 --> 1:25:19.519 because let me stop me there. Because the thing about 1:25:19.560 --> 1:25:24.320 it is the thing you understood. You understand the language 1:25:26.400 --> 1:25:32.920 coming out. So because because the thing about it X, 1:25:33.520 --> 1:25:37.640 it's just not like every encounter I ever have a 1:25:37.760 --> 1:25:43.400 DMX has never ever been industry. I could see this 1:25:43.439 --> 1:25:46.720 thing in fat Burger and then what's something you gotta 1:25:46.760 --> 1:25:54.200 stir it? Platinum? You ask me. I definitely got the 1:25:54.240 --> 1:25:58.559 cigarette for you, but like, so how could you see us? 1:25:58.960 --> 1:26:01.760 Like because we had got he here, right, and Herb 1:26:01.840 --> 1:26:05.040 said like, I'm sorry, I keep referring to Earth because 1:26:05.080 --> 1:26:08.320 it just refers to this interview so much, right, And 1:26:09.560 --> 1:26:15.760 he's saying that he's sorry through a lot jaw. He's 1:26:15.800 --> 1:26:17.920 saying that you don't know this is real ship right 1:26:18.800 --> 1:26:25.920 time he ever run for he had embraces or something. 1:26:26.600 --> 1:26:29.280 How the fun Like listen, mom, dude, I could look 1:26:29.320 --> 1:26:31.599 at certain people and say, yeah, yeah, I can see 1:26:31.640 --> 1:26:33.960 you get money. I can't see you and say you're 1:26:33.960 --> 1:26:37.240 a superstar. I don't have that ability. How the hell 1:26:37.360 --> 1:26:40.200 did you see that? I just knew he was talented, 1:26:40.240 --> 1:26:42.320 because you see, when you dealt with him for years 1:26:42.400 --> 1:26:44.840 before he got on, it was just a matter of 1:26:45.000 --> 1:26:48.240 time for everybody in the world understood. So we was 1:26:48.320 --> 1:26:50.040 all over the place. We was, you know, it was 1:26:50.080 --> 1:26:53.200 in the streets. So we hustled everywhere. We've been everywhere. 1:26:53.320 --> 1:26:56.240 We took him everywhere. Anywhere we had a battle. We 1:26:56.320 --> 1:26:59.479 probably never lost. Like he would battle and go, who 1:26:59.520 --> 1:27:00.840 want to bat? Don't want to be a bunch of 1:27:00.880 --> 1:27:03.720 people in room and you will go, I go, you go, 1:27:03.880 --> 1:27:06.519 I go. You know, he was just good at was crap. 1:27:06.760 --> 1:27:09.639 The next time the deal before the GM dealer dog 1:27:09.800 --> 1:27:12.080 like big beat or something. No, I think it was. 1:27:13.320 --> 1:27:14.920 I don't remember that deal, but it was. It was 1:27:14.960 --> 1:27:16.560 going to be a deal, but he didn't really get it. 1:27:17.240 --> 1:27:18.920 So you want to check the first time I met 1:27:19.000 --> 1:27:26.120 DMX's real ship, Battery studio, I'm olschool. I'm sorry, Battery students. 1:27:26.240 --> 1:27:29.160 I need you looking at it looks like this thing 1:27:29.280 --> 1:27:33.839 is I'm in Battery Students. A dog running in my session. 1:27:34.000 --> 1:27:41.160 Literally a dog jungle. LA's brother kicks the dog, and 1:27:41.240 --> 1:27:44.080 then twenty minutes later this Nidal Max woke to my ship. 1:27:44.640 --> 1:27:49.600 Don't like dogs, you said, what the funding dog told you. 1:27:53.520 --> 1:27:57.559 There's no way, it's only acuing it. The dog told 1:27:57.640 --> 1:28:10.639 you cool. Ever since that's the real ship, I swear 1:28:10.680 --> 1:28:14.080 to go making. I swear to gone. Listen man. But 1:28:14.240 --> 1:28:15.800 on that note to you, gotta shout out to Earth 1:28:15.800 --> 1:28:18.880 because he definitely got an eye for talent. And you 1:28:18.960 --> 1:28:20.559 know what, it ain't going back there. They know he produced. 1:28:22.479 --> 1:28:26.840 That's like ness be yo. Besides, when I'm Trump, I 1:28:27.320 --> 1:28:29.400 didn't know you. I don't know about that. I was 1:28:29.479 --> 1:28:33.120 damn the studio. I said that beat was ridiculous because 1:28:33.320 --> 1:28:36.360 it was our DJ prior to the Monster beat. Moms 1:28:36.840 --> 1:28:39.280 or didn't talk about this on the park and he 1:28:39.439 --> 1:28:43.679 was yeah, I said, hey, mocks djer got he said 1:28:44.920 --> 1:28:51.719 was necessarily hold hold every time week we should drink. 1:28:51.800 --> 1:28:58.200 I don't lie, nigga. We're like every something that made 1:28:58.280 --> 1:29:01.040 sure we would drink and go studio and not in 1:29:01.080 --> 1:29:08.759 my life baby. Basically at that time we would drink 1:29:09.080 --> 1:29:11.040 and go to students every night. Big, We've been a 1:29:11.120 --> 1:29:13.920 whole crew No one cared about nothing. It was snap 1:29:14.360 --> 1:29:16.720 and we have a ball and Jay were wrapped. That 1:29:16.880 --> 1:29:19.840 was it. That was all we did. How different was 1:29:19.920 --> 1:29:23.000 that for y'all because back then Hall and people stayed 1:29:23.040 --> 1:29:24.920 with Hall and people like I know I said that earlier, 1:29:25.280 --> 1:29:30.120 but to see him just like you know, how difficult 1:29:30.200 --> 1:29:32.479 was that to claim that? Because that was y'all crew. 1:29:32.600 --> 1:29:34.280 Now I know one thing. We snap a lot that 1:29:35.080 --> 1:29:39.640 is gonna snap like y'all snap. We used to go 1:29:39.800 --> 1:29:45.519 home basic nothing based to snap fucking athletes. I have 1:29:45.640 --> 1:29:47.880 my days, but based on loose too many battles, but 1:29:48.600 --> 1:29:50.920 I saw one he lost a couple and I loved it. Okay, 1:29:55.640 --> 1:29:58.080 got you bags, we drop other covins. I can see 1:29:58.360 --> 1:30:01.439 somebody and your brother rest of bings ball off got 1:30:01.479 --> 1:30:04.160 based a couple of times after that business that's not 1:30:04.280 --> 1:30:08.519 I'm lost anyway. So all little Biggs this song like 1:30:08.600 --> 1:30:11.360 the snap Biggs used to go to war. Biggs had 1:30:11.439 --> 1:30:14.599 up what day said Virginia seven hour drives? Snapped them 1:30:16.080 --> 1:30:18.639 seven hours straight. You know you can't escape. So I'm 1:30:18.680 --> 1:30:21.759 in the highway, mean I'm jumping out the car. You can't. 1:30:23.880 --> 1:30:26.080 They're one tope face business by one of two battles. 1:30:26.080 --> 1:30:28.200 But my point is Brooklyn is gonna snap. 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You had the wrango 1:31:38.360 --> 1:31:42.200 boots on a bunch of money, beautiful call killed that. 1:31:42.400 --> 1:31:49.640 I'm not joking. I don't. I don't remember he had 1:31:50.840 --> 1:31:53.519 he had a bunch of money with night dolls. We 1:31:53.680 --> 1:32:01.479 snapped on them. Board the bottle to pay white towns 1:32:02.120 --> 1:32:08.559 paying bas TIMPs, you big things the rain. I had 1:32:08.600 --> 1:32:12.040 to add to buy four pair of Tempts because I 1:32:12.120 --> 1:32:14.040 looked at my closet and I said dead, asked me, 1:32:14.280 --> 1:32:19.200 that's not right. I had no temps ship the right 1:32:19.240 --> 1:32:21.320 way to legal way it's used to play dumb b 1:32:21.520 --> 1:32:29.519 I hate you for that, big basic don't matter, basic 1:32:29.600 --> 1:32:32.680 balls stuff BA. Let me let me change something for 1:32:32.760 --> 1:32:37.360 one second. So for one second, right, Um? To me, 1:32:37.520 --> 1:32:41.040 the best time in hip hop was when d from 1:32:41.120 --> 1:32:46.000 Rough Riders was in power. Why Rough Riders is in power? Uh? 1:32:47.040 --> 1:32:55.680 Bigs damn ar Gotti? Uh the black CEO, who of 1:32:55.800 --> 1:32:57.560 course I mean? But you know I'm just saying that 1:32:57.640 --> 1:33:01.599 I'm speaking Paul just CEOs no this. Do you think 1:33:01.680 --> 1:33:06.960 that time will ever come back? Tough to say, yeah, 1:33:08.000 --> 1:33:11.160 do you think that time it's necessary to come back? Um? 1:33:11.720 --> 1:33:13.800 I don't know if it's if it's necessary, because like 1:33:13.960 --> 1:33:16.960 everybody's taking their fate in their own hands. So everything 1:33:17.040 --> 1:33:19.040 that we was trying to teach artists back then to 1:33:19.120 --> 1:33:21.280 be their own boss, now you can actually do it. 1:33:21.960 --> 1:33:24.040 You know, you can record your album in the house 1:33:24.120 --> 1:33:26.080 and a crib, put it out on tune call whatever 1:33:26.120 --> 1:33:29.240 it is. You know, make your own money, build a 1:33:29.280 --> 1:33:32.880 following on social goal perform. You know, can't forget not 1:33:33.000 --> 1:33:35.800 to perform because everybody just think puts some out on 1:33:35.880 --> 1:33:38.559 YouTube or Instagram, and like they're not on the road. 1:33:38.640 --> 1:33:40.439 Get on the road, build up a following. But you 1:33:40.479 --> 1:33:43.320 could do it yourself now. So the blueprint has changed 1:33:43.360 --> 1:33:46.240 a little bit. Technology change the landscape, how about you. 1:33:48.040 --> 1:33:51.480 The game is a little different through because of the technology. 1:33:51.640 --> 1:33:53.680 And you know, everybody could do it theyselves. You know, 1:33:53.760 --> 1:33:56.080 you're training them and you're showing the blueprint. You know, 1:33:56.120 --> 1:33:57.760 you're showing how to do this to that, and then 1:33:58.200 --> 1:33:59.680 everybody be able to do it their own. Like the 1:33:59.720 --> 1:34:03.040 luck everybody being able to get deals, independent deals and 1:34:03.120 --> 1:34:05.920 move forward. So you told them everything, So it's not 1:34:06.040 --> 1:34:07.720 gonna never really be the same like we did it. 1:34:08.280 --> 1:34:09.840 We did it was a little different. They could do 1:34:09.840 --> 1:34:12.000 it themselves now, So what I am amost happy about 1:34:12.040 --> 1:34:14.360 us seeing that the artists are getting money outside of music, 1:34:14.680 --> 1:34:16.519 because that's what we always trying to teach them, Like 1:34:16.640 --> 1:34:19.720 it's other things outside and they don't don't have to 1:34:19.760 --> 1:34:21.599 be music. You use that as a platform to get 1:34:21.640 --> 1:34:24.840 into something else. Question, hold on before you do that. 1:34:25.280 --> 1:34:31.120 But now Rockefeller, right, they expanded out to clothing. Yeah, 1:34:31.920 --> 1:34:35.320 but when they got to clothing, you were it involved 1:34:35.439 --> 1:34:38.120 in the clothing. Why is that? Well? I was involved 1:34:38.160 --> 1:34:40.040 on a cross marketing of it. So that's why I 1:34:40.080 --> 1:34:43.639 went Dame, went over there to Rocket where I stood 1:34:43.680 --> 1:34:46.280 and I took over Rockefeller. So that's when I was 1:34:46.360 --> 1:34:56.880 doing trying to sign you. You never signed. I know, 1:34:57.000 --> 1:35:00.080 I did Kanye's album and Young Guns album, but so 1:35:00.360 --> 1:35:01.960 you know, while I while he was going down and 1:35:02.000 --> 1:35:04.880 everybody played their part. It was perfect because I was, 1:35:05.160 --> 1:35:07.400 you know, doing all across market and taking the artist 1:35:07.479 --> 1:35:10.479 to perform state property, taking everybody to London, do the 1:35:10.560 --> 1:35:12.920 Rocketway shows in Germany wherever we was going. So it 1:35:13.000 --> 1:35:15.760 was important to do it like that. Okay, nothing, d right. 1:35:16.640 --> 1:35:20.479 I want to ask you because you and Rocketfroller did 1:35:20.560 --> 1:35:29.200 the biggest tour together, correct and I felt like, in 1:35:29.320 --> 1:35:32.160 my opinion, I could be wrong, Like, actually, the biggest 1:35:32.360 --> 1:35:36.400 artist at that moment, you could have did a rough 1:35:36.520 --> 1:35:39.360 Rider talk by yourself. What made you choose to do 1:35:40.800 --> 1:35:44.760 a Rocket Feller rough Rider tour together? Because you would 1:35:44.760 --> 1:35:46.639 the head hounter. You could have said, fuck it, let's 1:35:46.680 --> 1:35:50.720 just do Drag on Eve and but you said you 1:35:50.920 --> 1:35:54.519 chose to do the Rocket Feller Tour. What the what 1:35:54.680 --> 1:35:58.080 made you make the decision? I'm thinking I think we was. 1:35:58.600 --> 1:36:00.720 I don't remember if it was. I think it was 1:36:00.760 --> 1:36:03.200 probably me and home because I was kind of more 1:36:03.680 --> 1:36:06.599 Me and him had a relationship. Then then we would 1:36:06.640 --> 1:36:08.559 be talking different things, and then we probably came up 1:36:08.600 --> 1:36:11.560 with the concept of doing it together. Plus you know, 1:36:11.640 --> 1:36:13.479 we're all coming from the same place, so it was like, 1:36:13.520 --> 1:36:15.320 you know, why, let's give it a shot, let's go. 1:36:15.680 --> 1:36:17.560 We all high anyway, so we was good. You know, 1:36:17.920 --> 1:36:20.560 he was big, what was big? X was big, So 1:36:21.040 --> 1:36:23.639 it just made sense at that time to do it together. 1:36:23.760 --> 1:36:26.280 You know, it would be bigger. So that's what we did. 1:36:26.360 --> 1:36:29.360 We just we just did it together. Make some noise 1:36:29.400 --> 1:36:38.040 for that. Me personally, I think like as a person 1:36:38.160 --> 1:36:41.960 that's been in the industry, as an artist, and when 1:36:42.000 --> 1:36:43.880 I bought sed Up, I just bossed up with with 1:36:44.040 --> 1:36:48.040 just us. I just feel like we need the black CEO. 1:36:48.280 --> 1:36:50.760 We need these guys. The one thing, the one thing 1:36:50.800 --> 1:36:56.559 about Bigs me working with him directly is I could 1:36:56.560 --> 1:36:59.479 say some bullshit in the in the circle and biggest 1:36:59.479 --> 1:37:02.560 to Black, He'll look and he'll like somewhat agree with 1:37:02.680 --> 1:37:04.720 me and then pull me to the side that you 1:37:04.760 --> 1:37:11.960 know you and we don't have that no more, like 1:37:12.240 --> 1:37:14.920 artists don't really have that. Like artists don't really have 1:37:15.120 --> 1:37:17.080 the you know, I'm gonna sunk with you by the 1:37:17.120 --> 1:37:19.280 see you like the people is around the other, the 1:37:19.360 --> 1:37:22.160 other people that's cutting the checks, and then as soon 1:37:22.200 --> 1:37:27.800 as it's going on, lookstood everything you you would talk 1:37:27.960 --> 1:37:31.320 it like. We don't have that no more. And that's 1:37:31.360 --> 1:37:34.360 the reason why so people can't complain about the lyrics 1:37:34.720 --> 1:37:37.519 or the music. They gotta complain about the people that's 1:37:37.560 --> 1:37:42.040 actually pushing it. I don't know if that makes sense. 1:37:42.080 --> 1:37:45.240 You don't understand what I'm trying to say. Can we 1:37:45.439 --> 1:37:50.240 ever get back to tow with you guys are running 1:37:50.280 --> 1:37:52.720 the old person that's like you guys, But let's say it. Maybe, 1:37:53.120 --> 1:37:55.599 I mean, it's obviously there's a lot of young artists right, 1:37:55.680 --> 1:37:58.040 like you know little kids today that's getting in the 1:37:58.120 --> 1:38:00.360 game that that may not know it, but do. There's 1:38:00.360 --> 1:38:03.160 a lot of season managers as well that can play 1:38:03.240 --> 1:38:05.080 that role, you know what I mean. So it doesn't 1:38:05.080 --> 1:38:07.120 always have to be the CEO. If you could surround 1:38:07.120 --> 1:38:09.680 yourself with a good team with people that season, you 1:38:09.680 --> 1:38:12.320 ain't gotta really depend on the label. That's what we 1:38:12.400 --> 1:38:15.000 used to tell everybody. Stop depending on the label. Even 1:38:15.080 --> 1:38:17.360 with us, right, we will go to to the artists 1:38:17.360 --> 1:38:18.599 and be like, what do you want to do? What's 1:38:18.600 --> 1:38:20.320 your market and playing? What are you songs? What do 1:38:20.439 --> 1:38:21.960 you like the single to be? You know what I'm saying. 1:38:22.000 --> 1:38:25.120 We were trying to always teach. So I mean, like Gino, right, 1:38:25.200 --> 1:38:27.120 like guys like that. You've got people, you know, all 1:38:27.160 --> 1:38:30.479 around people that manage to do stuff that helps the artists. 1:38:30.479 --> 1:38:32.519 I think that they could look for that ums for 1:38:32.640 --> 1:38:36.200 help as well. Maybe it morphs into into people taking 1:38:36.280 --> 1:38:38.599 over the reins of some of these technology companies as well, 1:38:38.880 --> 1:38:42.840 because that's what's kind of running people taking the reins 1:38:42.880 --> 1:38:45.960 of the technology companies, the tech companies that are actually 1:38:46.400 --> 1:38:48.920 really running the industry. So before I use the bathrooms, 1:38:49.200 --> 1:38:52.200 use the bathroom up. I'll be honest, I beholding it's 1:38:52.240 --> 1:38:57.000 the whole time. But listen, it's streaming helping or hurting 1:38:58.000 --> 1:39:03.280 the industry? It is, and question is it helping? Because 1:39:03.840 --> 1:39:11.960 right now, forget on spotting. I got like three hundred 1:39:13.560 --> 1:39:18.839 spins on like one ship right to three hundred friends. 1:39:19.000 --> 1:39:21.600 Back then I'll be two hundred thou away from me 1:39:21.680 --> 1:39:26.160 and go on a single. But then they calculated very different. 1:39:26.200 --> 1:39:29.040 They say three hundred thousand. Oh, they say every fift 1:39:29.280 --> 1:39:36.639 hundred spins streams streams equals one. So it's it's streaming 1:39:36.720 --> 1:39:39.880 helping or hurt in the industry. Truthfully, I don't know. 1:39:39.920 --> 1:39:42.720 I didn't really look at the business of streaming, um, 1:39:43.160 --> 1:39:48.080 so I really can't answer that. How about you, day Oh, 1:39:49.560 --> 1:39:52.720 it probably like me said, you know, we're don't really 1:39:52.800 --> 1:39:56.679 look into it. I'm old school. I don't pay attention 1:39:56.760 --> 1:39:58.880 to that as much. But it's probably definitely going to 1:39:58.960 --> 1:40:03.160 affect the whole business on top of everything. So it's 1:40:03.200 --> 1:40:05.200 never gonna be the same. Like if you keep saying that, 1:40:05.280 --> 1:40:10.519 it's probably never gonna be the same. There's too much technology. Okay, 1:40:10.560 --> 1:40:12.800 hold on, y'all, I'm taking you go. I'm going to 1:40:15.400 --> 1:40:18.120 your big right now. I'm going. I know you gotta 1:40:18.200 --> 1:40:26.920 cool it. I gotta got what's up. Ready you listen, 1:40:27.720 --> 1:40:30.240 we're back. I hadn't had to take a pigis this 1:40:30.320 --> 1:40:34.080 is how it's going down. But now, Biggs, I want 1:40:34.120 --> 1:40:39.160 to take it back to reasonable doubt class. That's my 1:40:39.280 --> 1:40:44.439 ship right there. I don't love you love folks, that's 1:40:44.720 --> 1:40:48.120 never nothing. I'll do the album ever, ever, every reason. 1:40:48.520 --> 1:40:53.479 When we were together as brothers, every day, every hangout, 1:40:53.880 --> 1:40:57.759 sucker comfort. But Cardy BIG's giving me a thousand jaws 1:40:58.160 --> 1:41:00.320 picking me up to make the twelve o'clock we drinking 1:41:00.360 --> 1:41:04.519 again and again to the next day. Don't do that 1:41:04.600 --> 1:41:07.960 to me, my crossing Chris down give me acause it 1:41:08.080 --> 1:41:09.880 was the biggest bom umber this big time because I 1:41:09.960 --> 1:41:11.519 was nothing. That's what they did on record and you 1:41:11.560 --> 1:41:15.200 said one, yeah, he said, I'm just gonna say like 1:41:15.640 --> 1:41:18.120 one was dead. No, not my doubt. I was like 1:41:18.200 --> 1:41:21.400 down a line of resum album. I do know I 1:41:21.479 --> 1:41:23.160 said that, but I was sending the wrong album. One 1:41:23.280 --> 1:41:26.880 was there, but that's my doubt. You gotta take my 1:41:26.960 --> 1:41:30.439 last I take I'm sorry. I got a hyper I 1:41:30.520 --> 1:41:32.479 love that album. I'm sorry, I'm slip. I love that. 1:41:32.560 --> 1:41:38.800 I definitely asked you get me all. I love. We 1:41:38.880 --> 1:41:50.200 keep drinking, okay, slop slop, listen some things. Yeah, you 1:41:50.320 --> 1:41:55.040 finally believe after he battles d M Man. Yeah, so 1:41:55.160 --> 1:41:58.519 in your opinion, he beat d M Max right, correct, 1:41:59.760 --> 1:42:02.360 And you guys go to record the album or was 1:42:02.479 --> 1:42:07.240 y'all already recorded an altu president? Now he wasn't recording album. Pricice, 1:42:07.479 --> 1:42:13.280 you go record the album? So what what makes you 1:42:13.439 --> 1:42:17.400 continue to believe? I started to hear other songs, so 1:42:17.560 --> 1:42:22.960 n South, Uh the song um that that never came out? 1:42:23.120 --> 1:42:25.080 That was I think that was a song that Clock did. 1:42:25.800 --> 1:42:27.720 It was like two or three other songs that I 1:42:27.840 --> 1:42:30.240 heard that I never heard before that that Clock had done. 1:42:30.960 --> 1:42:33.920 For Jay was talking more like how Jay talked as 1:42:33.960 --> 1:42:37.479 of recent. So that's what it made me to believe. 1:42:37.560 --> 1:42:42.200 I believe. Now, all right, let's get after in my lifetime. Alright, 1:42:42.479 --> 1:42:45.800 let's get to like when you were locked up? Right first, 1:42:45.800 --> 1:42:47.240 of a lot of people don't even know we were 1:42:47.280 --> 1:42:50.560 locked up or what happened. It was a conspiracy. So 1:42:50.800 --> 1:42:55.000 I introduced somebody to somebody and uh in l a 1:42:55.120 --> 1:42:59.200 from New York and they didn't. Even though they didn't 1:42:59.200 --> 1:43:02.240 do a deal, they wanted me to basically talk, so 1:43:02.320 --> 1:43:06.440 I chose not to. Haven't got time for it. Hit, 1:43:06.920 --> 1:43:10.320 of course I don't. I'm talking to you now, I'm talking. Now, 1:43:10.360 --> 1:43:16.799 I'm talking. Relax, Relax, relax and relax. I'm gonna let's 1:43:16.800 --> 1:43:25.479 make a noise him everybody. It's all right, Biggs. This 1:43:25.600 --> 1:43:28.000 is because because let me just let me just as 1:43:28.040 --> 1:43:31.479 an outside of looking at right when I heard when 1:43:31.560 --> 1:43:35.320 I heard Biggs had a charge, but I said, this 1:43:35.400 --> 1:43:38.479 is no way Biggs is something. But yeah, I was 1:43:38.560 --> 1:43:42.559 buying dispensaries in California. That made no sense of legal side. 1:43:42.640 --> 1:43:45.200 I was buying dispensaries in California. This is a little 1:43:45.240 --> 1:43:48.120 tell tell you. Let me tell you on that one. 1:43:48.479 --> 1:43:51.400 What wait what when? When? When you're ready, let me talk. Relax, 1:43:51.760 --> 1:43:53.639 let me take it for Biggs. But okay, you gotta relax, 1:43:55.720 --> 1:43:58.440 big say that against So you was what buying dispensaries? 1:43:58.640 --> 1:44:03.000 He was buying dispense to me California. Yeah, medical dispenses. 1:44:03.080 --> 1:44:06.400 So why so why when this story came out, these 1:44:06.439 --> 1:44:09.720 people actually thought that like you were selling we and 1:44:09.840 --> 1:44:13.240 to me, I know I knew, like I had a 1:44:13.320 --> 1:44:22.000 hundred arguments this thinking bigs ain't pounds, that's what that laughed. 1:44:22.560 --> 1:44:25.439 So they actually found a pound two pounds in my 1:44:25.520 --> 1:44:28.240 house and it was like we got it. So but 1:44:28.400 --> 1:44:31.920 you know how, what's the rumor to like wherever? They 1:44:31.960 --> 1:44:33.840 said you had to leak in your house or something 1:44:33.920 --> 1:44:37.040 like that. And then they guys at my penthouse that 1:44:37.120 --> 1:44:43.760 was years before. Oh okay, rocket in Jersey. I love 1:44:43.880 --> 1:44:46.720 that house. Look you don't got that, no more want 1:44:46.720 --> 1:44:54.040 to you still got you ever seen let's first you 1:44:54.120 --> 1:44:57.200 had the first year, had the first ball I ever 1:44:57.320 --> 1:45:05.240 seen you here this man, you have been there. Fuck 1:45:05.320 --> 1:45:10.400 you relax as you're talking about relax. I'm not the 1:45:10.560 --> 1:45:13.639 groopie that's not on bus my man. I know why. 1:45:13.640 --> 1:45:39.240 I because my friend. I know we lived at good time. Asshole. Yeah, 1:45:39.280 --> 1:45:41.600 big face was locked up. You want to say that 1:45:41.720 --> 1:45:46.840 one more time? So now, what's the best arra in 1:45:46.920 --> 1:45:49.519 hip hop? In your opinion? It doesn't have to be 1:45:50.120 --> 1:45:53.280 the arraw that you were in. This the best arra 1:45:53.800 --> 1:46:00.639 hip hop period that's tough, late eighties, probably early nine. Said, 1:46:02.240 --> 1:46:06.840 you're talking about criss Cross era. No Big Daddy, Kane, Arrow, 1:46:07.520 --> 1:46:20.680 kanem D, Kim D Douggy Fresh, after that, after that 1:46:23.280 --> 1:46:25.439 Jen and Juicon at the day, I'm going right into 1:46:25.640 --> 1:46:34.080 Era J nine was chr rass right, slick rag not nice? Yeah, yeah, 1:46:34.760 --> 1:46:39.680 coold you, that's that. What's what's your favorite? Era? D 1:46:40.240 --> 1:46:42.040 right around that area right then all the way up 1:46:42.120 --> 1:46:47.519 until it got to us. Yeah, my favorite as us 1:46:48.800 --> 1:47:02.320 sorry was a hard ye man, this is a great time. 1:47:03.040 --> 1:47:06.240 Chigi has a great time, right hand man Vegs here 1:47:06.560 --> 1:47:10.320 Slime bepposed to have beans and free rade to but 1:47:10.360 --> 1:47:17.160 then what was the inspirational Beans and Beans get to 1:47:17.240 --> 1:47:19.760 the mike means another level man, one of the best 1:47:19.920 --> 1:47:23.400 rappers I've seen them, but he had an alligant about you. 1:47:25.920 --> 1:47:27.920 But you know, Beans is Beans Beans, the street dude 1:47:27.920 --> 1:47:31.160 who did what he wanted to do, but lyrically a monster. 1:47:31.400 --> 1:47:34.080 I never seen nothing like it. Man. I and our 1:47:34.120 --> 1:47:36.080 Biggest Game but the opportunity and our Beans one of 1:47:36.080 --> 1:47:38.679 the biggest jail within the two three million at the beginning, 1:47:39.360 --> 1:47:41.720 the Biggest game and the whole album. But then of 1:47:41.840 --> 1:47:43.880 course at the end, I would left bigg. I would 1:47:43.920 --> 1:47:46.240 have to call bix is my boss. What you want? 1:47:46.320 --> 1:47:49.360 Bass taught me how to mix records, you know, things 1:47:49.400 --> 1:47:53.160 like that. But beans special a big means special rappers, 1:47:53.280 --> 1:47:58.160 especially special Monster. And you said he could have been 1:47:58.479 --> 1:48:02.759 just as big as Jake. You know he was very close. 1:48:02.840 --> 1:48:04.880 Just a lot of jail time. Look disrespect to him. 1:48:05.120 --> 1:48:07.840 Philly is a very bad It's a tough town. If 1:48:07.880 --> 1:48:10.040 you don't hold your own, dude get handed. So he 1:48:10.120 --> 1:48:11.880 does have to held held did what he had to do. 1:48:12.280 --> 1:48:18.800 But basyis that's especial, right, great talent. Like I said 1:48:18.800 --> 1:48:20.920 something to get Peter Crab one second biggest what this album? 1:48:20.960 --> 1:48:24.400 That's what Biggs did. Biggs was smart. He wouldn't hang 1:48:24.520 --> 1:48:26.800 with us bisical to do his work and come to 1:48:26.880 --> 1:48:30.040 the block his niggers and bring every out every we 1:48:30.120 --> 1:48:32.760 did what y'all think. He wouldn't say nothing if we 1:48:32.880 --> 1:48:35.640 like it. Basically, you gotta hit if not and in it. 1:48:35.800 --> 1:48:38.240 But Biggs, but the truth, Biggs, I said, what this 1:48:38.280 --> 1:48:41.360 stick to here? He said this nigga from Philly, don Mike. 1:48:41.439 --> 1:48:43.960 When I heard the truth, I try to light skinned 1:48:44.000 --> 1:48:51.040 man to use ruth fools about you. That was actually 1:48:51.120 --> 1:48:54.639 Kanye's first saying, yeah, we shout the Biggs and fund 1:48:54.760 --> 1:49:01.280 Kanye West till everybody take the truth. Was Kanye's first s. Yeah, wait, wait, wait, 1:49:01.520 --> 1:49:05.280 oh no, I'm gonna your show. I gotta do one thing. Babu, 1:49:05.720 --> 1:49:07.920 you gotta be too much at one time. I'm sorry. 1:49:07.960 --> 1:49:16.680 I hype up, but I'm something. I'm a calm down. 1:49:17.400 --> 1:49:20.080 He said, what you said it again? Which one? Now 1:49:20.600 --> 1:49:26.760 you said that you troof kind of producing but big 1:49:26.800 --> 1:49:30.360 but Beanie wrapped Biggs water to hunting for they say 1:49:30.479 --> 1:49:32.240 on the next one. His crew was at. It was 1:49:32.280 --> 1:49:34.920 all they drinking. BIG's a door record and make sure 1:49:35.160 --> 1:49:37.840 Big how a technique with us. He threw the record 1:49:38.080 --> 1:49:40.120 and come to the hood. We played off like it's 1:49:40.160 --> 1:49:43.040 nothing if we like it, bat it. Biggs paid the truth. 1:49:43.520 --> 1:49:47.080 I turned light skin you. No, I'm not. I'm my 1:49:47.280 --> 1:49:52.880 light still like it's this boat us like ules use 1:49:52.960 --> 1:49:56.360 fools like ules use tools. It was ridiculous, I said, 1:49:56.400 --> 1:50:00.800 big gotter. I said, really gotta and he just kept 1:50:00.840 --> 1:50:02.439 hitting those directords my bigges side of tall. You come 1:50:02.439 --> 1:50:07.759 to the hood with him, man, big, big time, big time. Okay, 1:50:08.040 --> 1:50:11.080 So now I gotta go there. Okay, but we want 1:50:11.080 --> 1:50:12.880 to go. You got to the top of the world. 1:50:13.479 --> 1:50:20.560 Give me some rose. They popping ship. I'm feel the 1:50:20.600 --> 1:50:22.599 good sim in my world. That time you got me here, 1:50:22.840 --> 1:50:26.560 you guys on top of the world. Right before we 1:50:26.640 --> 1:50:28.479 had we had all that talent from Philly. I don't 1:50:28.479 --> 1:50:31.040 know wherever you get he from. I started telling on 1:50:31.080 --> 1:50:42.200 these millions of going in there, but like and then 1:50:43.160 --> 1:50:48.599 you guys, well not you guys. Once this nis right, 1:50:52.560 --> 1:51:01.439 there's nothing my ship right? Old this nis okay, come on, 1:51:04.800 --> 1:51:08.439 so hold this nis right. We shot at ship booth. 1:51:09.680 --> 1:51:12.040 You can't have a shot of champagne. It's doesn't exist 1:51:12.720 --> 1:51:20.760 copy shampagne. Okay, I'm sorry, listen, so hold this, nis right. 1:51:21.200 --> 1:51:24.479 I love you man, my mother? What what? What? What? 1:51:24.680 --> 1:51:27.800 What made y'all say to yourself? Like, all right, cool, 1:51:28.840 --> 1:51:31.040 this is what whole want to do. We're backing them. 1:51:31.439 --> 1:51:35.280 Oh did you say this is not us? Like? What 1:51:35.479 --> 1:51:38.800 was your position? I want to take over? Now? I'm 1:51:38.800 --> 1:51:40.479 not sure. I think it was after I heard the 1:51:40.560 --> 1:51:42.559 take over. I don't even think Jay spent the rounds 1:51:42.600 --> 1:51:45.040 to us before, but he just didn't take on his 1:51:45.120 --> 1:51:51.479 own And then and then I heard it. Either it 1:51:51.600 --> 1:51:55.400 was rare, neither was ridiculous. It was rare. So how 1:51:55.439 --> 1:51:59.160 did y'all feel? Let's just be honest. I'm gonna I'm 1:51:59.160 --> 1:52:00.880 gonna scream through. But you know what my seats is, 1:52:00.960 --> 1:52:03.640 oh five, So I love you to death, find me, 1:52:03.760 --> 1:52:07.000 find me when lotus he's still my snuff. I'm just 1:52:07.120 --> 1:52:09.240 doing day al right, man, Jay, Look there's something I 1:52:09.360 --> 1:52:17.600 take that high back of the days. Basically we just 1:52:17.640 --> 1:52:19.680 sit on top of the couch. It's not like on 1:52:19.800 --> 1:52:23.439 top of this is on top. You know, I'm something slim, 1:52:23.560 --> 1:52:25.160 you know when you sit on seats, but on top 1:52:25.200 --> 1:52:27.519 of us. He's like like that not not there, like 1:52:27.640 --> 1:52:30.880 not where Randy's at on top. Yeah, so we're talking. 1:52:31.320 --> 1:52:35.120 That record came out Jayson mc killers nigger. I start laughing, 1:52:35.200 --> 1:52:37.479 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, you don't killing the guy. Na 1:52:37.680 --> 1:52:40.760 I'm killers, he said, dick sucking lips. You know, men 1:52:40.800 --> 1:52:43.639 don't play that game. Jay hated that verse. He could 1:52:43.640 --> 1:52:46.920 take that verse. Pissed in the funk off man. I said, 1:52:47.240 --> 1:52:48.720 you beat no word about that ship. Come back you 1:52:48.800 --> 1:52:50.719 got you got it. So he's gonna put the record 1:52:50.720 --> 1:52:52.240 out with Ivers said all that ship. I don't care 1:52:52.280 --> 1:52:54.679 about that ship. It wasn't anything the impact we wanted. 1:52:55.000 --> 1:52:56.680 But when he came back that something he took a 1:52:56.720 --> 1:53:00.400 break h over. I got my mojo bad be o 1:53:00.920 --> 1:53:04.320 ad no No, that's just my Nigga's back. I'm a 1:53:04.439 --> 1:53:07.040 big time Jay fan. He struggled through that. My opinion, 1:53:07.320 --> 1:53:09.320 when he came back with that record, he's back. So 1:53:09.360 --> 1:53:11.400 when the ax nas, I got a million in your head, 1:53:12.200 --> 1:53:14.759 you say it first, I say it verse who wouldn't 1:53:14.760 --> 1:53:17.000 get a million? Na said? I still don't remember this. 1:53:17.360 --> 1:53:20.200 He where did this happen? That? It was on the Raguar? Now, 1:53:20.200 --> 1:53:22.919 I was on my point one. Am I making that up? Anybody? 1:53:23.800 --> 1:53:26.000 Thank you? I'm making I'm not making it st up 1:53:26.040 --> 1:53:28.680 More It was a nice point at more teamas he 1:53:28.840 --> 1:53:31.280 put a moon on his head. You say it first, 1:53:31.680 --> 1:53:33.720 I say first. Who ever? Once I got to get 1:53:33.760 --> 1:53:35.920 a million? He said, I can't afford it. Day J 1:53:36.080 --> 1:53:41.880 got deeper. Said no, definitely, he said, in a look 1:53:41.920 --> 1:53:45.240 at if I'm gonna say the happen, he said, anyone 1:53:45.240 --> 1:53:46.960 wasn't putting it up. It's not I'm not making as 1:53:47.080 --> 1:53:50.040 you don't do that now I know I'm not. I 1:53:50.840 --> 1:53:54.760 didn't say that. He said, you didn't say you don't 1:53:54.760 --> 1:54:00.280 want to look it up? Saying but he see, like, 1:54:00.439 --> 1:54:06.000 I'm just telling you your feelings, not a lot of money. 1:54:06.080 --> 1:54:10.200 Have your feelings. Everybody will have a mining off. Go 1:54:10.320 --> 1:54:13.000 on line to yourself. You say that, but oh, y'all 1:54:13.120 --> 1:54:15.760 not a reality. You're having to be in in cash 1:54:15.880 --> 1:54:20.200 if it's very serious, he said. He turned to the 1:54:20.280 --> 1:54:23.280 fod hold on not at a point one and she 1:54:23.400 --> 1:54:25.960 Mortina said it flesh and said it. I don't make 1:54:26.000 --> 1:54:28.080 a bliese. They he killed me him all. I don't 1:54:28.120 --> 1:54:32.080 get because I don't definitely Okay, well you have. I'm 1:54:32.120 --> 1:54:34.800 just telling you, even if he can't afford it, say that, 1:54:34.880 --> 1:54:37.480 I'm okay. Some you know what seves different words. Yeah, 1:54:37.480 --> 1:54:39.520 I'm just telling you if I wonder the words he was. Now, 1:54:39.720 --> 1:54:42.320 I'm a big fan. For the record, I said, destroy 1:54:42.480 --> 1:54:44.920 Jack behind now. I said the Jay was just better 1:54:44.920 --> 1:54:47.720 than Jay. But then when Jay became I manned up. 1:54:47.960 --> 1:54:50.080 So if I'm saying the wrong us, I apologized, but 1:54:50.120 --> 1:54:52.640 I remember it was something about the money wasn't right. 1:54:53.160 --> 1:54:56.680 All I'm saying is Jay came back that summer and 1:54:56.800 --> 1:55:00.560 hit that classic regort, h O V. I got my 1:55:00.720 --> 1:55:05.440 mojo back, baby over a no no, I said, he's back. 1:55:05.960 --> 1:55:07.920 I'm the latest Babe James. Friends, I don't like him 1:55:08.040 --> 1:55:10.160 for us. I loved Jack. I love him. I like 1:55:10.280 --> 1:55:13.600 my love everybody. I remember, I haven't respect him my 1:55:13.640 --> 1:55:17.800 first he's all right, like that skinny motherfucker started. Can 1:55:17.920 --> 1:55:20.640 I live where I'm from? This time is my risk? 1:55:20.680 --> 1:55:23.360 I got clock of life. You can't do shit about this. 1:55:23.720 --> 1:55:32.920 That was my man, my man. Nobody said no, no 1:55:33.200 --> 1:55:37.080 Jameson Jason Monson. I see Jake is a monster lyricist man. 1:55:37.920 --> 1:55:41.080 He got a little sense of that last off multiple 1:55:41.440 --> 1:55:44.200 know with his wife the lemon chipball, don't get cheeked 1:55:44.240 --> 1:55:46.280 and fall before. It's my favorite, James. I ain't like 1:55:47.560 --> 1:55:52.480 what I like the beam. I'm about the disadvantage scream 1:55:54.440 --> 1:55:56.160 you didn't like from my love that I was. I'm 1:55:56.200 --> 1:55:58.120 being my asshole because I just felt like it was 1:55:58.120 --> 1:55:59.800 bound out, was just white. I'm a sucker thinker for that. 1:55:59.840 --> 1:56:01.640 I'm sorry. I'm sorry. You got it. I'm got it. 1:56:01.720 --> 1:56:04.320 I'm a sucker. It's a great. I'm just being an asshole. Now. 1:56:05.560 --> 1:56:09.000 It's just I'm money, ain't you privately? My house is 1:56:09.040 --> 1:56:11.760 a need me a little morm. You know you gotta 1:56:11.920 --> 1:56:13.680 you gotta get some you gotta get more money. If 1:56:13.720 --> 1:56:16.080 you don't like fall for four, that mean you ain't. 1:56:16.360 --> 1:56:17.640 I ain't got the slim I got to know. You 1:56:17.760 --> 1:56:19.400 gotta get something then, But but I'm here. You don't 1:56:19.440 --> 1:56:22.800 like Fall full four you get you don't get it. 1:56:25.120 --> 1:56:38.040 It's gotta getting. Family is gonna pick the I'm not station. 1:56:38.120 --> 1:56:43.480 I'm not calling big if. I thank God, it's good good. 1:56:43.960 --> 1:56:46.520 I'm loving this man. I love all I'm but what's 1:56:46.520 --> 1:56:50.600 your favorite ever hip hop? I asked both of them. Damn, 1:56:52.240 --> 1:56:54.920 I'm stay property arrow, you're not. I'm gonna go the 1:56:55.040 --> 1:56:57.640 first time. I'm gonna do not rocket fall. You're gonna laugh. 1:56:57.680 --> 1:56:59.880 It's you, that's all I know. It's rocket fuller all 1:57:00.120 --> 1:57:08.800 for one new good. That's all that's small. I love him, Yeah, yeah, 1:57:10.240 --> 1:57:15.400 great minds and I c e that's my area. Then 1:57:15.520 --> 1:57:17.680 I'm not gonna lie. Became a rocket fall for from 1:57:17.720 --> 1:57:19.880 the I don't love from the rocket fall. After that, 1:57:21.000 --> 1:57:24.200 after that, let me tell you something. Sometime Big Face 1:57:24.240 --> 1:57:27.400 Garrank in my studio. Let's just talking to him, like 1:57:27.880 --> 1:57:35.080 my cheeseburgers. He's like, yeah, beans love that too. You 1:57:35.160 --> 1:57:40.320 know what you hit me? You know I'm about some 1:57:40.400 --> 1:57:46.760 fresh rods like bleaking about that. Don't choke me and 1:57:46.800 --> 1:57:49.000 I'll take that. I'm gonna tell you right now, when 1:57:49.040 --> 1:57:51.120 you come home. I've been someone here that don't want me. 1:57:51.200 --> 1:57:54.760 S fresh it up. I called myself when you go 1:57:55.000 --> 1:57:57.560 through a lot, you've been around these guys every day 1:57:58.320 --> 1:58:01.400 and you're just you're making having fun, making good money. 1:58:01.480 --> 1:58:03.640 You're not listen to me. I set up a meeting 1:58:03.680 --> 1:58:07.720 with them. I made five grand. Yeah, and you let 1:58:07.800 --> 1:58:10.520 me just say day. I just had to tell them. 1:58:10.520 --> 1:58:14.120 I was like, you know, we scream on screak. Listen. 1:58:14.280 --> 1:58:16.880 It's biggeran rocket. He screak on me. There's a life 1:58:18.320 --> 1:58:20.720 like everything I was talking to him about. I'd be like, yo, 1:58:20.840 --> 1:58:23.080 you know, I see you see this chick. She got 1:58:23.160 --> 1:58:25.360 a bad bace front. He was like, yeah, you should 1:58:25.400 --> 1:58:31.960 the same. The sashion is. It's it's sad, but you're hey. 1:58:32.120 --> 1:58:34.920 I love them that much. They let they let me, 1:58:35.160 --> 1:58:41.400 let me diet a little bit, but it's my program. Basically, 1:58:42.520 --> 1:58:48.280 some great people bad. I got no problems. Bags had great, 1:58:48.520 --> 1:58:52.840 great time. I don't told y'all. Bags was driving big calls. 1:58:53.320 --> 1:58:57.160 I had Biggs call for nine weeks. Basically, I said 1:58:57.480 --> 1:59:00.040 I could call, Oh love my call, bigger guy. You 1:59:00.040 --> 1:59:02.280 didn't care about. It's a good dude man. That's a 1:59:02.320 --> 1:59:05.360 good dude man. Be my dough golfice bags were switch 1:59:05.400 --> 1:59:08.800 on the ball makers. You know everybody home nigger track. 1:59:15.440 --> 1:59:17.240 This is my man. But I said one thing though, 1:59:18.040 --> 1:59:19.960 when you got your teeth fixs, you look a lot better, though, 1:59:30.000 --> 1:59:41.800 Ye shout out to my man. Yank up the west side, 1:59:41.880 --> 1:59:44.480 Biggs honestly bigging my man. Biggs taught me a lot 1:59:44.560 --> 1:59:46.640 you're going to meet. This is a boss man. I 1:59:46.760 --> 1:59:49.480 gotta do the problem jay z Ball, Dame boss. I 1:59:49.560 --> 1:59:52.160 got friends, having Biggs of them. Bumba is one of 1:59:52.240 --> 1:59:56.400 my best friends. He calls me, um my man, my man. 1:59:56.400 --> 1:59:58.840 I'm Maori told me one day Gary, you're not my 1:59:59.040 --> 2:00:00.400 You're not a rapper to me and out of a 2:00:00.480 --> 2:00:03.720 and all, you're my friend. So I swear to God 2:00:04.520 --> 2:00:08.480 had some bad experiences. But me and no we real close. 2:00:09.120 --> 2:00:12.960 Me and um my man, my man, bumpies very close, y'all. 2:00:13.160 --> 2:00:15.880 One time I remember Sony Studio, we came to see 2:00:15.960 --> 2:00:18.440 you and you was with Pete Crack and that's when 2:00:18.520 --> 2:00:22.440 me Nori bumped into literally see a little Seeds that 2:00:22.560 --> 2:00:25.120 was working with Junior Mafia. Yes, little see. That's the 2:00:25.200 --> 2:00:27.720 first time he gets got cos the norm and it 2:00:27.880 --> 2:00:30.160 was ill right nor even when the studio with Pete 2:00:30.240 --> 2:00:39.200 Crack and you just you know rich. You know you 2:00:39.280 --> 2:00:42.400 got some Norrison assholes. You know you gotta get fat. 2:00:42.520 --> 2:00:46.480 All I'm saying is he shoked. We killed me a 2:00:46.520 --> 2:00:49.240 little bit, all rock Nor we got some new chips. 2:00:55.120 --> 2:00:58.320 We're just struggling in pop right now, just struggling at 2:00:58.360 --> 2:01:01.560 the door right now. And old different man Yang shot 2:01:01.640 --> 2:01:04.640 to my man Yang. The lottis uppold side. We don't 2:01:04.680 --> 2:01:07.680 have the fun Nor I'm loving. When I met you, 2:01:08.200 --> 2:01:12.680 your teeth was like a cat. Touch your like a cat? 2:01:13.160 --> 2:01:21.160 Now ships white your Why don't keep you a pretty one? 2:01:25.400 --> 2:01:29.400 You did? You did the rage side, the ring tone, 2:01:30.160 --> 2:01:34.120 the career was almost old stay treat chats wants you 2:01:34.280 --> 2:01:52.320 back there? He was sad. I got shot that side 2:01:52.320 --> 2:01:56.200 of the big face you miss. Yeah, I'm your side. 2:01:56.720 --> 2:02:01.080 I'm just showing love. I'm I'm yours like big yo. 2:02:01.520 --> 2:02:03.520 I never see what you'll seeing, but I do know 2:02:03.680 --> 2:02:19.400 one thing. We go tone, what's to fix everybody? We 2:02:19.520 --> 2:02:26.320 killed him? Killed him. Nobody came back in the audience 2:02:26.400 --> 2:02:28.880 that you killed him, You killed the game that she 2:02:29.120 --> 2:02:31.520 was so copy shot the video and then then you 2:02:31.640 --> 2:02:33.760 added on on the video moment when you get out 2:02:34.760 --> 2:02:41.640 when you get him no change, but I didn't when 2:02:41.680 --> 2:02:47.080 I didn't like you got so that happened. The round 2:02:47.720 --> 2:02:49.920 said what I did with this reggae THO tell him 2:02:50.400 --> 2:02:53.840 so slipping is big. So we shot the video in 2:02:53.960 --> 2:02:58.080 my hand and he split the video and then the 2:02:58.200 --> 2:03:01.480 shot touch you to added to the video. When they 2:03:01.560 --> 2:03:07.720 getting Norma the rocket fuller chang you did? And where 2:03:07.840 --> 2:03:18.520 is it? Chan happy? Where Chan? He never signed the deal? 2:03:18.640 --> 2:03:20.920 Can we talk about why you never signed the deal? Man? 2:03:21.400 --> 2:03:25.840 You got the check? Never signed? This did not signed? 2:03:29.200 --> 2:03:35.320 You say that was my first platinum change? I got 2:03:35.400 --> 2:03:38.160 their names right, I funked up. Shout out to Aragant 2:03:38.200 --> 2:03:40.840 Jeff Rosenthor. Man, they show was great. Man, that's the 2:03:40.880 --> 2:03:42.920 one you heard me that day when you call me, 2:03:43.040 --> 2:03:46.000 don't do that North with that dumb face. Man, you 2:03:46.040 --> 2:03:48.120 didn't show them slide that day and he loved it. 2:03:48.200 --> 2:03:51.400 Don't do that. They got you. They got I'm talking money. 2:03:51.400 --> 2:03:55.640 I told you the days dropped the good things. When 2:03:55.640 --> 2:04:03.080 that stunt that tell her it was so rich, doesn't doesn't? Where? 2:04:04.840 --> 2:04:18.840 Where's what did pop tell you the other day? Come here? 2:04:24.920 --> 2:04:27.720 I'm not talking about this ship. I'm talking about when 2:04:27.720 --> 2:04:30.400 we using his crib. Right, I gave him the man 2:04:30.520 --> 2:04:34.120 that idea. Me and Jim Jones, we gotta man, we 2:04:34.200 --> 2:04:38.280 gotta be in that idea. Right. So then when I next, 2:04:38.720 --> 2:04:42.560 I didn't say it was so. And then and then 2:04:42.640 --> 2:04:44.720 Pop said, you gotta come to the money couch, right. 2:04:46.120 --> 2:04:49.920 I never knew this a money couch. When I went, 2:04:50.160 --> 2:04:52.960 I sat down, I said, the money couch feels sucking awesome. 2:04:54.120 --> 2:05:02.480 And he said that's it. I forgot my boy money. 2:05:03.240 --> 2:05:09.000 You know, the money got going saying over here for 2:05:09.080 --> 2:05:23.560 something time the subject why are you sign about something? 2:05:23.840 --> 2:05:27.240 I said this it was like it was it was, 2:05:27.400 --> 2:05:30.480 it was. It was we were sitting on the money couch. 2:05:30.760 --> 2:05:33.800 That's what he said. It is. He says sometimes say 2:05:33.880 --> 2:05:37.080 I'm just so rich that it's just hard to That's 2:05:37.120 --> 2:05:41.080 what it is. It's hard to kill. This is the 2:05:41.160 --> 2:05:46.200 reason why I brought this. I want to make this clear. 2:05:46.840 --> 2:05:50.200 I want to make this clear. I wanted to sign 2:05:50.680 --> 2:05:54.360 the Rock. They were my niggas. They invited me to 2:05:54.480 --> 2:05:58.480 every movie they ever did. They invited me, so I 2:05:58.680 --> 2:06:01.720 felt there was something going on, and I was like, fucking. 2:06:02.080 --> 2:06:06.480 I fought with y'all, no problem, damon, Biggs. They never 2:06:06.600 --> 2:06:08.960 sent me a contract, not once. He said, I've never 2:06:09.080 --> 2:06:13.160 signed it. I've never got presented a contract, not one. 2:06:13.240 --> 2:06:24.800 I swear to god. I know you probably ready Randy 2:06:24.880 --> 2:06:32.920 wrote it, already wrote it. Listen, listen. I'm not even 2:06:32.960 --> 2:06:38.360 looking at Randy signal. Listen. It definitely gets sent to me. Like, 2:06:38.560 --> 2:06:41.120 but I was asking, y'all you send me the contract, 2:06:41.560 --> 2:06:43.440 was like, be good. That put the chain on me. 2:06:44.400 --> 2:06:49.280 I was like, good, that was it? And what's y'all? 2:06:49.400 --> 2:06:54.360 Let me hit that? But that error in hip hop 2:06:54.680 --> 2:06:57.640 could never be duplicated? In your opinion? Do you think 2:06:58.000 --> 2:07:00.680 that error hip hop could never be like you know 2:07:01.000 --> 2:07:04.720 d MX? Because again, I'm sorry to keep referring to IRV, 2:07:04.800 --> 2:07:06.520 but IRV is the person that we just had on 2:07:06.680 --> 2:07:09.440 here and he dropped balls. But what he was saying 2:07:09.640 --> 2:07:14.360 was every year it would be rocket Fella dropping the ball, 2:07:14.840 --> 2:07:17.680 did rough riders dropping the ball, and then murdered egg 2:07:17.800 --> 2:07:22.080 dropping the ball? We dropped every year. Do you think 2:07:22.120 --> 2:07:28.200 that can ever be duplicated? I don't care. They just 2:07:28.280 --> 2:07:33.160 can't even happen in today's You think that can't happen 2:07:33.200 --> 2:07:36.720 in this climate right now because the way things changed digitally, 2:07:37.320 --> 2:07:38.880 I know all this has the work ethic to do 2:07:39.000 --> 2:07:41.080 that every year, but it's just the game is different. 2:07:41.560 --> 2:07:43.600 You may think I'm crazy and people putting out the music. 2:07:44.120 --> 2:07:46.160 I'm gonna tell you think you have to work ethic. 2:07:46.280 --> 2:07:49.160 J has base Maker disagree it to me and pick 2:07:49.240 --> 2:07:51.160 up to him crazy. Drake has a work ethic man. 2:07:51.560 --> 2:07:54.680 He puts record out after record after record, but he 2:07:54.800 --> 2:07:56.640 just don't have the swag that people are looking for 2:07:57.160 --> 2:08:00.760 his work. After he went Timberlins with no drawing Drake, 2:08:00.920 --> 2:08:04.640 I said Drake in my friend. No one agreed. Drake 2:08:04.720 --> 2:08:07.840 put out record after record after record, but he would 2:08:11.800 --> 2:08:16.720 think they gotta work out it, So gotta work ethic. 2:08:17.720 --> 2:08:22.960 Y'all can say it's the boy rap the board with 2:08:23.080 --> 2:08:26.920 the boy wrapping board wraps the board. Okay that Biggs. 2:08:27.120 --> 2:08:28.840 Has there ever been an artist that came to you 2:08:29.000 --> 2:08:31.480 that you wanted to sign, you didn't sign, and you 2:08:31.560 --> 2:08:35.280 regret it that I wanted to Probably the uh the 2:08:35.320 --> 2:08:40.640 only one week didn't didn't go through the scar face Wow? Okay, 2:08:40.680 --> 2:08:45.680 everybody relaxed before the Death gamescribing everybody that it was 2:08:46.040 --> 2:08:48.760 whatever are you because it was supposed to be Rocket 2:08:48.800 --> 2:08:51.720 Phone Um the fixed album that was supposed to be 2:08:51.760 --> 2:08:54.320 on Death Jam No, No, that was on de that 2:08:54.480 --> 2:08:56.280 was on Death was before that. I mean we were 2:08:56.280 --> 2:08:57.960 talking to him because you know, we had a relationship. 2:08:58.160 --> 2:09:02.080 Scar faces on almost every we did All Beans album. 2:09:02.720 --> 2:09:07.080 So we're just talking about signing and then uh and 2:09:07.360 --> 2:09:12.480 probably Twister. We never actually signed, yeah, because you know 2:09:12.560 --> 2:09:15.640 Twister was like an honorary rocket feller too, but he 2:09:15.960 --> 2:09:26.840 actually didn't sign. He did, like you yeah, now that well, 2:09:26.960 --> 2:09:30.040 God bless my man. Trial brought me. He brought the album, 2:09:31.160 --> 2:09:33.320 but he was bringing me so much. I'm like, y'all 2:09:33.480 --> 2:09:35.320 taking the hip hop man, I can't listen to no 2:09:35.440 --> 2:09:39.040 more music and hip hop is your brother? Yeah, by 2:09:39.080 --> 2:09:41.240 the way, and he took it to uh, what's up 2:09:41.240 --> 2:09:45.640 a dude? I was managing Nellie um cool lovel and 2:09:45.680 --> 2:09:47.680 then they did it and that was that album. This 2:09:47.760 --> 2:09:50.200 is the second it's the same. This is the second 2:09:50.400 --> 2:09:54.000 episode that fucking Nellie and Cooler Love gets mentioned in 2:09:54.320 --> 2:09:58.120 your Motherfucker's Better Now, D Motherfucker's Better Come here now? 2:09:58.240 --> 2:10:00.640 D Had there ever been an artist I came across 2:10:00.680 --> 2:10:03.520 that table that you're fronted on and you regretted that. 2:10:04.640 --> 2:10:08.320 M M no, I'm not really at that point because 2:10:08.320 --> 2:10:11.040 I have more than enough artists. I gave artists away 2:10:11.160 --> 2:10:14.600 like I maze you have. I had made side the 2:10:14.640 --> 2:10:16.280 lock side of all of them. I was like I 2:10:16.360 --> 2:10:17.880 had to give some way to just to be able 2:10:17.920 --> 2:10:20.400 to get it done. So where you have passed? Yeah, 2:10:20.560 --> 2:10:31.480 missed Wenation. I think he probably went over there. Hold on, 2:10:31.720 --> 2:10:36.400 so you have Mace, Yeah, I mane from Holland, so 2:10:36.480 --> 2:10:39.360 you know anything from haller moving. Yeah, I'm pretty much 2:10:39.400 --> 2:10:40.960 gonna be able to give my hands on it because 2:10:40.960 --> 2:10:42.280 I know a lot of people in the Hall. So 2:10:42.400 --> 2:10:44.320 d we always thought you from the Bronx and you 2:10:44.440 --> 2:10:48.120 from the Bronx at Hall both. I'm from the Bronxon 2:10:48.160 --> 2:10:50.440 halland but you know I was born in the Bronx. 2:10:50.960 --> 2:10:52.440 But I've been in Hall ofm all my life. So 2:10:52.600 --> 2:10:54.400 the bridge, I can walk across the bridge. I'm good 2:10:54.440 --> 2:10:56.440 on the side. So we are all right. So it's 2:10:56.480 --> 2:10:59.760 all like this family, you know. So I've been home 2:10:59.840 --> 2:11:01.960 so much. You know, I'm a Hall of nigga because 2:11:01.960 --> 2:11:03.800 I just like all of nigga, but I'm a Bronx nigga. 2:11:04.040 --> 2:11:09.000 When I gotta get uply Bronx niggers. Mace was actually 2:11:09.040 --> 2:11:15.520 on that president, yeah, that president. Yeah, this is a history, 2:11:17.640 --> 2:11:23.720 j Z. What that sounds like without Ja? Yeah, so 2:11:23.840 --> 2:11:25.400 he had to be first and saying he had to be, 2:11:25.520 --> 2:11:27.160 but I didn't like the way he sounds, so we 2:11:27.280 --> 2:11:29.320 took him off and we gave it to Jay. So 2:11:29.480 --> 2:11:32.960 now so now okay, because that's when children in the car, 2:11:33.040 --> 2:11:36.960 remember we had Yeah, there was never a version with 2:11:37.120 --> 2:11:41.240 Mace and Jay. Okay, this is the only one that 2:11:41.320 --> 2:11:44.680 we had. You know, it was way back. Was niggas 2:11:44.720 --> 2:11:46.960 then started something that was just on the mixtape. That's all. 2:11:47.000 --> 2:11:49.320 I don't know right then at that point, niggas then 2:11:49.400 --> 2:11:51.480 started something. Mace all them was on there right there. 2:11:53.320 --> 2:11:56.400 That was that was the sumaking. That's it. Yeah, we 2:11:56.480 --> 2:12:04.560 did history. Just a big face g what's up? You know? 2:12:04.720 --> 2:12:06.760 We love you over here on this side. Want you 2:12:06.760 --> 2:12:10.520 to take a shot drinking. I didn't stop thinking it right, 2:12:10.960 --> 2:12:14.280 I gotta take a shot. I'm having a good years. 2:12:14.360 --> 2:12:16.560 I don't know what that podcast you went to before? 2:12:17.120 --> 2:12:19.400 You know, you got me talk about that later they 2:12:19.560 --> 2:12:25.640 got you My person, My person, I don't stop. I 2:12:25.960 --> 2:12:28.280 can do for eight years. I'm Gary. It's easy for me. 2:12:29.080 --> 2:12:31.640 Damn sure. You gotta do your own podcast. You know, 2:12:31.760 --> 2:12:35.520 I'm educated yeah, you get we got you, We got you, 2:12:35.960 --> 2:12:38.120 we got you, you got me. You want something? I 2:12:38.200 --> 2:12:42.720 forgot this call? Be on? What be on? Be on? 2:12:42.880 --> 2:12:50.240 You want to be on? Energy? Good vibes with you? 2:12:51.080 --> 2:12:56.160 So now big. At some point, you guys made Chris 2:12:56.200 --> 2:13:01.160 Style famous, right, hey, we're going back round there now, Crystal, 2:13:01.520 --> 2:13:03.960 I don't wanna talk about that ship was so expensive 2:13:04.000 --> 2:13:06.680 of the average person in the hood. You guys made 2:13:06.720 --> 2:13:09.720 it famous, and then at some point you guys hold 2:13:09.760 --> 2:13:12.600 away from it. I would like to describe, if you 2:13:12.720 --> 2:13:16.480 can describe the moment of making Cristal famous, in the 2:13:16.560 --> 2:13:18.960 moment of pulling away from it, I think we probably 2:13:19.000 --> 2:13:25.800 started drinking it something like that. Yeah, yeah, but it 2:13:25.920 --> 2:13:29.440 was actually at the Dead President's video. Actually were trying 2:13:29.520 --> 2:13:32.120 in ninety six, were trying to find a new champagne 2:13:34.280 --> 2:13:38.560 so Le Grand Dam and um, we'll start doing vv Yeah. 2:13:38.640 --> 2:13:40.440 So we we found that, but they didn't taste it 2:13:40.480 --> 2:13:42.880 as good, so we kept drinking it. But that was 2:13:42.920 --> 2:13:47.600 back in and the other scovering Crystal, yeah, three or 2:13:47.640 --> 2:13:50.480 four years prior. Okay, yeah, so at ninety six were 2:13:50.520 --> 2:13:54.040 already done with it. And so what happened the moment 2:13:54.120 --> 2:13:56.560 where you felt like when you guys felt like Christal 2:13:56.760 --> 2:14:00.400 was racist. That that was years years later. You know, 2:14:00.680 --> 2:14:03.120 that was trying. I mean we felt other companies was racist. 2:14:03.120 --> 2:14:05.640 That's how we got an Armadale because everything we was 2:14:05.680 --> 2:14:07.560 doing for Belvet there at the time, putting that in 2:14:07.640 --> 2:14:10.840 songs and making that popular, and then we reached out 2:14:10.920 --> 2:14:13.080 the Belvit there to get some cases for a video 2:14:13.160 --> 2:14:16.400 and they said no. So we did another song and 2:14:16.440 --> 2:14:18.120 then we tried to get a deal with them and 2:14:18.160 --> 2:14:22.920 then they said no. So that's why. Yeah, so that's 2:14:22.960 --> 2:14:26.600 when we did Armadale, and then for that same thing 2:14:26.680 --> 2:14:29.720 with the clothes with Iceberg, and that's why rocketwat started 2:14:30.000 --> 2:14:34.880 so okay, so because he said that very very fast. Okay, 2:14:35.200 --> 2:14:38.120 so you guys tried to get an Iceberg deal. Yeah, 2:14:38.160 --> 2:14:40.560 we try to first transfer with the hottest clothes line 2:14:40.600 --> 2:14:43.960 at the time. You see a lot of people don't 2:14:44.000 --> 2:14:47.280 know that we say Iceberg that people are thinking just whatever, right, 2:14:47.760 --> 2:14:52.200 but no, Iceberg was that way. Iceberg was. It was 2:14:52.240 --> 2:14:59.040 like damn near Gucci right around my way. No, it 2:14:59.160 --> 2:15:11.560 was played out hall talked speakers of the world. So 2:15:13.040 --> 2:15:19.720 so now so you go outs go to Iceberg, say, 2:15:20.080 --> 2:15:22.080 you say, we just want gear or you guys want 2:15:22.080 --> 2:15:23.839 out to get first and try to get some clothes. 2:15:24.440 --> 2:15:28.880 They said no, right, So after making it popular again, 2:15:28.960 --> 2:15:30.320 the same thing like we did with Belvett, and we 2:15:30.400 --> 2:15:32.200 reached out to try to get a deal and they 2:15:32.200 --> 2:15:34.880 didn't want to have nothing to do with it. So yeah, 2:15:35.000 --> 2:15:38.720 that's how rock That's how rockways started, that's how Armadale started. 2:15:39.160 --> 2:15:41.520 That's how the music business start. Every time somebody closed 2:15:41.520 --> 2:15:54.840 the door, your thing makes for that. Yeah, but no, 2:15:55.160 --> 2:16:00.480 you gotta sweet to the mic. They well, I just 2:16:00.560 --> 2:16:03.760 want to know the dream karean the Korean listen. But 2:16:03.840 --> 2:16:08.480 in hindsight, when when y'all became millionaires or whatever, and 2:16:09.160 --> 2:16:16.200 you mean from the music business for the music business, yeah, 2:16:33.040 --> 2:16:35.600 you'll gonna get mad at me. I swear I'm uch 2:16:35.640 --> 2:16:38.040 of dispect clapped you that he said before the music 2:16:38.120 --> 2:16:47.880 business don't getting money. I listen now what I'm but 2:16:47.959 --> 2:16:50.920 I'm saying in hindsight, like you know, when you start 2:16:51.000 --> 2:16:53.120 dealing with big company, because at first you said that 2:16:53.200 --> 2:16:55.560 y'all thought that a lot of people was all these 2:16:55.600 --> 2:16:59.240 companies was on racist and everything about or whatever they 2:16:59.280 --> 2:17:03.080 say that no reaction. So you said that whatever y'all 2:17:03.120 --> 2:17:05.760 didn't think that whatever reason, they y'alls reaching out with them, 2:17:05.800 --> 2:17:08.480 and they wasn't fucking with y'all. And do you think 2:17:09.280 --> 2:17:11.800 and beginning anything like they just shipping on yellow whatever 2:17:11.879 --> 2:17:13.320 for whatever reason, I think they ain't dealing with you. 2:17:13.440 --> 2:17:16.680 But when y'all become dealing with bigger companies and everything like, 2:17:16.760 --> 2:17:20.000 do you think that they were just missing formed? But 2:17:20.160 --> 2:17:22.320 why it wasn't doing it? And I can't say. I 2:17:22.440 --> 2:17:24.360 can't say why they didn't want to do it or not. 2:17:24.680 --> 2:17:27.640 But what it did is motivate us to go harder. 2:17:28.400 --> 2:17:31.200 You we just use it as motivation. So it was 2:17:31.320 --> 2:17:33.760 no racist going on. I don't know, you didn't care. 2:17:33.840 --> 2:17:36.320 It was like somebody said racist. This is why I 2:17:36.400 --> 2:17:54.440 really was saying that you can't toge, you know, perform music. 2:17:55.840 --> 2:17:58.720 Hold on one more thing, didn't I wanted to say 2:17:58.760 --> 2:18:02.640 something about for a minute that brother, it's hard to 2:18:02.760 --> 2:18:05.600 find a man that loyal these days. When I how 2:18:05.640 --> 2:18:07.400 I grew up, you grew up. We must you know, 2:18:07.440 --> 2:18:10.480 I'm forty four before the five, so you know what 2:18:10.480 --> 2:18:13.879 I mean. Like it sounds crazy sometimes when the man 2:18:14.080 --> 2:18:17.440 is that loyal, but that's it's hard to find a 2:18:17.520 --> 2:18:22.080 motherfucker like that. And I motherfucking'spect you. Okay, yeah, yeah, 2:18:22.200 --> 2:18:24.600 I don't scared, And let me tell you something Until 2:18:24.680 --> 2:18:27.080 I do, Man, let me tell you something. I used 2:18:27.080 --> 2:18:30.200 to hang out with you like that, and everything I 2:18:30.440 --> 2:18:32.280 spoke to this nigger, I'd be like, yeah, I'm about 2:18:32.280 --> 2:18:34.480 to get up get a hero like yo. You know 2:18:34.879 --> 2:18:42.880 you know we love heron no, no, you get a 2:18:42.959 --> 2:18:54.560 break just the course. I'm not a dick roller. I 2:18:54.680 --> 2:19:01.680 just love them. I love him, if you have that 2:19:01.920 --> 2:19:04.880 making my point. I just loved them because they put 2:19:04.959 --> 2:19:07.800 in a position that the normal person can't get into. 2:19:08.080 --> 2:19:10.520 If they didn't love me, like you know what I 2:19:10.600 --> 2:19:13.880 just saw to that mine I was making seven Yeah, 2:19:14.480 --> 2:19:17.880 and I didn't know ship right, Just loyalty, That's what 2:19:18.000 --> 2:19:21.880 he's talking about. I don't know somebody that telling about me. 2:19:24.360 --> 2:19:27.720 You know what I'm saying is that I didn't love. 2:19:27.879 --> 2:19:29.600 That's all I knew. When the wreck with Dad does, 2:19:30.160 --> 2:19:32.080 that's what he's saying. He's saying you, you was loyal 2:19:32.200 --> 2:19:37.080 to one brand and nothing else. And when the first 2:19:37.160 --> 2:19:46.640 person loyalty is too much like that ship but something 2:19:46.680 --> 2:19:49.440 that comes to everything by myself, you did, I come 2:19:49.480 --> 2:19:52.080 to the studio every night by myself, it's the crazy 2:19:53.240 --> 2:19:56.320 somebody liked. I mean, you listen, let me let me 2:19:56.400 --> 2:20:02.360 let me look guys, listen, let me just tell you'll, 2:20:02.440 --> 2:20:07.160 let me just let me just reveal the secret. Young guys. Bleak. 2:20:08.360 --> 2:20:11.120 All these niggas will go make albums and we'll go 2:20:11.360 --> 2:20:14.760 presented to Rockefella and like, Nigga, you made that as 2:20:14.800 --> 2:20:18.480 Sun's suns cript. We're not. We're not paying you for that, right, 2:20:18.800 --> 2:20:24.080 and that was cool. So they somehow bleak put everybody 2:20:24.200 --> 2:20:30.960 on has Studio. So what we're gonna do is we're 2:20:31.040 --> 2:20:34.840 not gonna say it's Nory studio I had because remember 2:20:34.920 --> 2:20:42.320 my studios on Madison happened, So studio what's called? But 2:20:42.520 --> 2:20:55.160 the invoices are called Madison Incorporated. And and he would 2:20:55.200 --> 2:20:58.600 make me throw my way away. He hated Hayes. I 2:20:58.640 --> 2:21:00.520 don't throw my Hayes away. I'm like bags, I have 2:21:00.640 --> 2:21:02.480 to throw it away. He's like, you want some of 2:21:02.560 --> 2:21:09.040 this Raona, But this is all the ree froll the 2:21:09.120 --> 2:21:12.480 artists to do, all the brother artists like yo, if 2:21:12.520 --> 2:21:15.680 I go do my album on my own jay and 2:21:15.800 --> 2:21:19.720 them niggers is never gonna because they know that this 2:21:19.840 --> 2:21:24.480 is But if it wis hood Madison. So I used 2:21:24.480 --> 2:21:27.600 to envoys and I had all keep it real g 2:21:28.240 --> 2:21:30.920 I had every rocket Frollo artists and the boof had 2:21:31.240 --> 2:21:34.879 Biggs had to proven and big bis like Raigs Biggs. 2:21:35.360 --> 2:21:37.440 Biggs new what I was doing. But no, no, no 2:21:37.560 --> 2:21:40.760 bas like one thing. My base based like music. Well 2:21:40.800 --> 2:21:45.400 maybe were Regulus bass based my boss. You understand, Bagges 2:21:45.480 --> 2:21:48.520 was like Bigg like records. He's a proven it no records, 2:21:48.560 --> 2:21:51.760 no music. What did I say, records? Pull on on? 2:21:54.840 --> 2:21:57.320 What did I say? Big? Now, I'm gonna love me? 2:21:57.400 --> 2:22:00.280 Look what did I say? What he said? But really said? 2:22:00.320 --> 2:22:05.640 He on your favorite executive? I see why, Um I 2:22:05.800 --> 2:22:10.200 forgot why he's got bad. Remember remember chill, I'm not 2:22:10.240 --> 2:22:13.080 gonna look at you because he approved what all he said. 2:22:13.080 --> 2:22:15.080 He bro he said if he liked it, he approved 2:22:15.200 --> 2:22:17.000 that he give me whatever and give you a chance. 2:22:18.000 --> 2:22:19.680 And you just said the same as act. I just 2:22:19.800 --> 2:22:23.440 told this got the sucker. But I'm just saying with you, 2:22:24.160 --> 2:22:26.560 I'm helping your You like to help me? Is my man. 2:22:28.800 --> 2:22:31.920 I didn't just be big for that little Biggins. He 2:22:32.040 --> 2:22:36.360 was like eighteen pigspen. Since I was like, I don't 2:22:36.400 --> 2:22:38.640 wanna talk about this it's a ridiculous for years. Man, 2:22:38.800 --> 2:22:42.840 that's my friend. Man, it's his big brother, was my mentor, 2:22:43.560 --> 2:22:46.160 and Biggs is my man. You don't have to talk 2:22:46.200 --> 2:22:51.440 about Biggs everything. Biggs houses. I've been everywhere, Bigger, his father, rescipes, 2:22:51.520 --> 2:22:54.320 his mother. I knew everything, my lata babes. I would say, 2:22:54.360 --> 2:22:56.800 eating with Bases talking this is a good dude. Man. 2:22:56.959 --> 2:22:58.760 So I don't like when you're just doing this ship 2:22:58.920 --> 2:23:20.640 like big to somebody like that's my man. Ain't because 2:23:21.080 --> 2:23:23.240 we want to do a little bit. Because business Norman, 2:23:23.400 --> 2:23:27.520 this is my drink's been basically took them sit there. 2:23:27.560 --> 2:23:30.520 I never lacked. I just got said getting there because 2:23:30.680 --> 2:23:34.520 he kept saying, you've been the big house, keep saying 2:23:34.520 --> 2:23:43.440 that I'm doing good. It's all good. Okay, I want 2:23:43.440 --> 2:23:48.160 the bathroom. You listen. Is it that big great shows? 2:23:48.920 --> 2:23:52.920 Is that this? Want everybody to understand, Sorry, let me 2:23:52.920 --> 2:23:54.760 get let me get one second, let me get one second. 2:23:55.680 --> 2:23:59.680 I just want everybody to understand and realize me and 2:23:59.800 --> 2:24:08.760 this guy right here, Eric Fernando. But when we started 2:24:08.800 --> 2:24:13.240 this ship, we sat together and we said to ourselves, 2:24:14.280 --> 2:24:17.120 there's every format for a new artist to come on, 2:24:17.680 --> 2:24:19.920 Like if you're just new and you just you know, 2:24:20.280 --> 2:24:22.720 you had you had one record and you know the um, 2:24:22.879 --> 2:24:25.920 what's that ship called Millie Rock? You know what the 2:24:26.000 --> 2:24:29.720 Millie Rock? You got, you got your platform. You know, 2:24:30.640 --> 2:24:34.080 we respect that. But we sat around and said, where's 2:24:34.080 --> 2:24:38.040 the platform for people who've been in this industry, you know, 2:24:38.280 --> 2:24:42.320 more than five ten years, and where's the platform for 2:24:42.440 --> 2:24:47.320 them to respect them? Correct the event to talk about 2:24:47.440 --> 2:24:49.960 legacy as well, and legacy And this is the reason 2:24:50.040 --> 2:24:54.520 why I'm honored to be sitting in front BIGS, to 2:24:54.560 --> 2:24:56.520 be sitting in front of the to be sitting in 2:24:56.600 --> 2:24:59.640 front of Big Face Gary, and be sitting in Sting 2:24:59.800 --> 2:25:08.320 Ray Sting Rays. Correct? What what? What address? Again? Avenue? 2:25:08.680 --> 2:25:11.800 This is the reason why were The thing about hip 2:25:11.879 --> 2:25:14.480 hop is when you get a certain amount of years 2:25:14.520 --> 2:25:17.199 in hip hop, people want to tell you that's over 2:25:17.320 --> 2:25:20.760 for you. People want to tell you that you're done. 2:25:21.840 --> 2:25:25.960 You guys had a successful uh clothes company and you 2:25:26.040 --> 2:25:29.200 start another successful clothing company and you and Barnes and 2:25:29.320 --> 2:25:34.280 you and North Streams or whatever these people and these 2:25:34.320 --> 2:25:39.560 people want to say. These people want to say, you 2:25:39.720 --> 2:25:42.800 can't do it again. And the thing about it is 2:25:42.920 --> 2:25:47.800 our platform, what we represent is we can live forever 2:25:50.080 --> 2:25:52.920 because hip hop shouldn't have a limit to it. When 2:25:52.959 --> 2:25:55.199 you sit sit around and you look at the Rolling Stones, 2:25:55.280 --> 2:25:57.560 you look at the Rolling Stone magazines, look at the 2:25:57.640 --> 2:26:03.000 Rolling Stones, They're actually still touring. Publication is still actually 2:26:03.360 --> 2:26:07.920 in existence. Why we can't do that with hip hop? 2:26:08.520 --> 2:26:11.520 Why we can't why you know what I'm trying to say. 2:26:11.600 --> 2:26:13.680 What I'm trying to say is why we can't be 2:26:13.800 --> 2:26:17.800 our own like, why we can't we get it. Certain 2:26:17.840 --> 2:26:21.000 people gotta be on you know, reality shows and certain people. 2:26:21.440 --> 2:26:25.640 But we have to lift our people forever and make 2:26:25.680 --> 2:26:28.120 sure that they live forever and make sure that their 2:26:28.240 --> 2:26:32.760 legacy live forever. So that's what Drink Champions is about. 2:26:34.320 --> 2:26:37.840 That's what Drink Champions is about. Saluting d from rough writers. 2:26:38.920 --> 2:26:43.480 You know, bigs Yo, You guys are the epitome of 2:26:43.680 --> 2:26:52.320 CEOs in the time quick time boss in the time 2:26:52.400 --> 2:26:56.960 where CEOs matter, And we may never ever see that 2:26:57.080 --> 2:27:00.560 ever again. We just might not never see that against 2:27:00.640 --> 2:27:03.920 this lord. So if nobody else will big y'all up 2:27:04.200 --> 2:27:07.520 or salute y'all, And I'm sure people salute y'all, big 2:27:07.600 --> 2:27:09.840 y'all up, but I would like to do it on 2:27:10.080 --> 2:27:15.000 camera notified, so I don't know how many. Yeah, that too, 2:27:16.680 --> 2:27:28.800 I don't know what's going on. Seems fun already, you know, Biggs, 2:27:32.080 --> 2:27:35.880 I can't thank you enough for being so honest with me, 2:27:37.360 --> 2:27:41.600 for so being so truthful with me at the time, 2:27:42.760 --> 2:27:46.480 and even when the breakop was happening, you never lied 2:27:46.560 --> 2:27:49.240 to me. You kept it real me, You kept it. 2:27:50.640 --> 2:27:54.360 You gave me a brief conversation, but it was real you. 2:27:54.560 --> 2:27:58.800 You didn't say you can't be real with me. And 2:27:59.080 --> 2:28:02.080 and think about that is I can only salute you 2:28:02.200 --> 2:28:05.880 for that. I can only bow that all ship then 2:28:06.200 --> 2:28:12.400 might get me a d the same exact thing. Um, 2:28:12.920 --> 2:28:17.320 you guys dominated whatever you had to do, would you ever? 2:28:17.560 --> 2:28:21.160 You guys was dominated. You guys came back and you 2:28:21.280 --> 2:28:23.160 never You never changed on me. If I needed a 2:28:23.240 --> 2:28:26.280 DMX feature, if I needed a locks feature, I needed 2:28:26.280 --> 2:28:28.960 to Jada kiss feature, you always cleared it for me. 2:28:29.840 --> 2:28:32.400 And the thing about it is, I missed the error 2:28:33.000 --> 2:28:35.160 when you guys are in the forefront. Not saying you 2:28:35.200 --> 2:28:38.320 guys are not at the forefront now, but what I'm 2:28:38.360 --> 2:28:41.640 saying is I missed when you guys was actually in 2:28:41.760 --> 2:28:48.320 the building. Yeah, you know, because now I'm a media guy, 2:28:48.720 --> 2:28:54.720 so now to invite me as a media job. So 2:28:55.640 --> 2:28:58.120 I get invited into the building, but I'm like kind 2:28:58.200 --> 2:29:01.480 of media, like, you know, we got such a such 2:29:01.560 --> 2:29:05.160 shooter what's his name? And they want me to cover 2:29:05.320 --> 2:29:08.000 him and they want me to interview this guy, Like, 2:29:08.160 --> 2:29:12.400 that's not you guys never seen my show. I slute legends, 2:29:12.800 --> 2:29:15.280 slute people that have been here, people that have more 2:29:15.360 --> 2:29:18.800 than ten years or more in this game. Because if 2:29:20.200 --> 2:29:21.960 you don't have more than ten years in this game, 2:29:22.240 --> 2:29:24.520 you you have Hot nuney seven, you have Power one 2:29:24.600 --> 2:29:28.160 on five, you have you have the entire Internet. You 2:29:28.240 --> 2:29:31.760 have to Internet. But to get on this joint you 2:29:31.879 --> 2:29:33.720 have to be ten years or more and be a 2:29:33.879 --> 2:29:39.400 legend trying to pass down the store. No, you don't 2:29:39.440 --> 2:29:44.560 have to be years and years in years. You got 2:29:44.640 --> 2:29:50.200 to be doing. And the thing about it is YouTube 2:29:50.440 --> 2:29:55.199 brothers along Big Face Guy Live some of the most 2:29:55.560 --> 2:30:01.280 craziest errors in hip hop, Like DMX and jay Z 2:30:01.879 --> 2:30:06.520 had to be the two most craziest, most opposites popping 2:30:07.400 --> 2:30:13.040 at the same time. Yes, because s was, I mean, 2:30:13.280 --> 2:30:16.360 to my mind, he's still out of his mind, that's funny. 2:30:16.560 --> 2:30:22.039 I love and then Jay he's the most put together 2:30:23.240 --> 2:30:29.080 person in the world. But money cash holes worked. How 2:30:29.160 --> 2:30:33.000 does that? How does that work? I mean, Jane, you 2:30:33.080 --> 2:30:35.879 know he goes anyway. So it depends on whatever song 2:30:36.000 --> 2:30:41.000 he's getting on. That's what he's gonna be here. He 2:30:41.440 --> 2:30:43.880 was first right by seeing in my life man and 2:30:44.000 --> 2:30:46.560 my big boases. I know Jay, he does a monster. 2:30:47.320 --> 2:30:49.879 He proved it already. You did too much ready, Man, 2:30:50.840 --> 2:30:53.680 he did it already. Man, I can't believe it. Ship 2:31:00.040 --> 2:31:03.640 kind of your seriously, then you've got two grades. Yeah, bus, 2:31:03.760 --> 2:31:06.240 my friend, I'm a bus for years. Bas the journey. 2:31:06.320 --> 2:31:09.880 Yeah you're laughing. Oh yea joke, Bas, Yeah, slim you. 2:31:10.000 --> 2:31:13.120 So I'm getting friends wrap with your friend. This is 2:31:13.120 --> 2:31:22.240 about thousands. You love me fifty ugly and they love 2:31:22.320 --> 2:31:24.840 me and I love yo. This is crazy man. Yeah, 2:31:25.200 --> 2:31:27.400 I'm super happy. I'm super happy. You made my dad. Man, 2:31:30.800 --> 2:31:35.240 it's a beautiful thing. You threw me off what you 2:31:35.280 --> 2:31:38.400 can kill me all night. I wasn't killing you, kill you. 2:31:38.879 --> 2:31:41.040 I killed you for thirty seconds. It's your I love it. 2:31:41.080 --> 2:31:43.760 I love it. I killed me for't even spong. I 2:31:43.800 --> 2:31:45.880 got bad jokes, you know, I got I know your animals. 2:31:49.680 --> 2:31:54.120 Rocket fall of this Hero with Joe let me say, 2:31:54.120 --> 2:31:57.000 you want me take some I don't see stuff first, 2:31:57.320 --> 2:32:01.200 dude I've ever seen in the whole industry, like he can't. No, No, 2:32:01.320 --> 2:32:04.040 I'm ge. I'm not even trying to be funny. You 2:32:04.160 --> 2:32:07.520 came to my studio one day and everything I said 2:32:08.240 --> 2:32:11.600 it was like, yeah, he kept naming the rocket for 2:32:11.720 --> 2:32:15.680 the artist, and I was like, Gee, I'm sorry, Gee, 2:32:15.760 --> 2:32:21.040 I'm not. You're not killing out prom you'rekilling me and 2:32:21.120 --> 2:32:24.600 I can you know this is a life like you 2:32:24.680 --> 2:32:32.760 know you could go home, you know, eat your girl's pussy. Fella. Yeah, 2:32:33.000 --> 2:32:35.600 I'm gonna say this. If you come from certain things 2:32:35.640 --> 2:32:39.119 you're not used to. I'm I'm trying to go around 2:32:40.840 --> 2:32:45.400 home making semi grand a year. What am I supposed 2:32:45.400 --> 2:32:48.520 to do with guys who I grew up with? This 2:32:48.680 --> 2:32:52.959 motherfucker he's coming to my studio. I'd be like, Yo, 2:32:53.040 --> 2:32:56.360 what's going on? You good? But Yo? You know beans 2:32:56.400 --> 2:33:03.320 and I get niggas alone when you come here like this. 2:33:04.400 --> 2:33:06.120 I'm not going to kill kill me, killing man. No, 2:33:06.200 --> 2:33:13.400 I'm not. I'm not. How much was he never listened 2:33:13.400 --> 2:33:17.280 to me? This is the first time in my whole life. 2:33:17.360 --> 2:33:20.080 I said, that's a that's a that's a that's a 2:33:20.280 --> 2:33:23.199 version of being too loyal, Like he was just too loyal. 2:33:23.320 --> 2:33:26.400 Like what I mean was he couldn't see I'm not 2:33:26.520 --> 2:33:29.160 coming at you you kill you. No, I'm not coming out. 2:33:29.200 --> 2:33:34.680 I just never see nobody I'm bigging you up because ye, 2:33:34.840 --> 2:33:38.000 the loyalty was so crazy. But at the same time, 2:33:38.520 --> 2:33:40.800 I'm just like, gee, you know, a see saw goes 2:33:40.920 --> 2:33:45.039 up and down. You know, we see the up part. 2:33:45.959 --> 2:33:47.480 And then I was like, yo, you gotta you know, 2:33:48.040 --> 2:33:54.240 you gotta come down. And I almost got evicted. I 2:33:54.320 --> 2:33:57.039 have no idea where we're going to be the asshole. 2:33:57.280 --> 2:34:00.960 It's your base, wasn't to bigg has never told me 2:34:01.040 --> 2:34:04.320 no in my life. I don't know where you've been 2:34:04.360 --> 2:34:06.400 a little bit to what I do. Kill me a little, 2:34:07.080 --> 2:34:10.400 get a little back. My point was that there was 2:34:10.440 --> 2:34:12.600 hard times after Rocket for them, Death Music and Folder, 2:34:15.040 --> 2:34:17.199 and then it was Tim was stressed out before that part. 2:34:18.280 --> 2:34:23.720 Way before that, Bigs had a rule basically, get mad, 2:34:23.800 --> 2:34:26.960 I don't give a fuck, but he will make up. Gee, 2:34:27.000 --> 2:34:32.960 whatever I do for you, don't tell nobody beautiful. It's beautiful, 2:34:34.640 --> 2:34:39.280 beautiful remember ship still but base, I'm saying it's a 2:34:39.360 --> 2:34:41.680 front base. Use them, you know all. Let me say 2:34:41.720 --> 2:34:43.720 this just to get base a little bit. What's your 2:34:43.760 --> 2:34:46.920 big brother, my man? I love that. Maybe Biggs on 2:34:47.000 --> 2:34:49.240 my love to death when he died, took a chunk 2:34:49.280 --> 2:34:53.960 out of me, boblem when I needed Biggs. He never 2:34:54.040 --> 2:34:59.440 tried this back on me ever, ever, ever, ever, ever ever, 2:35:00.320 --> 2:35:03.879 It'd be bullshit money. I'm embarrassed asked for hundred dollars 2:35:04.160 --> 2:35:07.920 because I had a lot of pride for hunted her 2:35:07.959 --> 2:35:10.960 three hundred and your car made Dame Dash breakout. Let's 2:35:10.959 --> 2:35:13.520 just throw that out there. What calls MP about the 2:35:14.360 --> 2:35:16.320 Dame Dash? One time we went in your car and 2:35:16.440 --> 2:35:28.240 Dame Dash said he got hobs. I was just do 2:35:28.320 --> 2:35:33.840 two shots, you kill me? Do two shots shout shout 2:35:33.920 --> 2:35:36.240 the up board side, shout out the haitious sucked by 2:35:36.280 --> 2:35:48.520 some women shot to my mane back to alright. I 2:35:48.560 --> 2:35:50.160 don't even know what car had, but I don't know 2:35:50.320 --> 2:35:51.960 how the MP V man had the DBS. It was 2:35:52.000 --> 2:35:58.480 pop definitely wasn't there. It was like a Chevrolet. Definitely 2:35:58.600 --> 2:36:01.160 was the MP D gays b B. I can't even later, 2:36:02.000 --> 2:36:04.840 but I wrote in the car and I went with 2:36:05.040 --> 2:36:07.760 Dane damn tondy me. Where is an art district I was, 2:36:08.480 --> 2:36:10.520 and then he couldn't sleep. I mean he was just 2:36:10.600 --> 2:36:14.480 like about under the raid tone almost finish your career. Yeah, 2:36:16.560 --> 2:36:24.080 Almo broke your house. That's my brothers. Let I'm joking, 2:36:24.800 --> 2:36:28.840 Bumby and Nory the only rappers he said, fun wrap 2:36:28.959 --> 2:36:32.800 we love. He had a big, gass house. I was ridiculous. Listen. 2:36:34.160 --> 2:36:37.040 He was the only thing I used to come on 2:36:37.600 --> 2:36:39.760 doing big just to call me and say, I feel 2:36:39.800 --> 2:36:45.200 like you're smoking hags drive what's his name? Be too 2:36:46.160 --> 2:36:49.240 too to be outside, be to see me for you 2:36:50.640 --> 2:36:55.040 had a big ass cookie job from Biggs while you 2:36:55.160 --> 2:36:59.320 met selling we his money. Funny, why do people think yourself? 2:37:00.000 --> 2:37:07.960 You don't know what people thank you and something? The 2:37:08.000 --> 2:37:13.440 bottom just defend you so much to me only one Listen. 2:37:13.560 --> 2:37:17.280 We went to amsterdamn to get Harold warm landed, and 2:37:17.360 --> 2:37:21.840 he still say let's go get some sour. You don't 2:37:21.879 --> 2:37:26.280 remember that day. They're telling me big some of well. 2:37:26.680 --> 2:37:31.160 I said, big day said you come now. I came 2:37:31.200 --> 2:37:33.760 out of my career. He said, take a trip with me. 2:37:33.840 --> 2:37:37.920 I said, all right, cool. I brought no bags. I'm like, 2:37:38.000 --> 2:37:39.840 all right cool. And we didn'tchee the borrow I'm like, 2:37:40.120 --> 2:37:42.320 hold on, type of trip will we take it? But 2:37:43.040 --> 2:37:47.200 Nigga said, well, we're going overseas, said I gotta get 2:37:47.280 --> 2:37:49.560 some clothes. So that's not that's not what we were 2:37:49.600 --> 2:37:52.280 doing over here, Slam, you bought the clothes with me. Lad. 2:37:53.920 --> 2:37:56.400 I wasn't a bowler like that back then. I didn't 2:37:56.440 --> 2:37:58.640 know what to do, so I was like, alright, cool, 2:37:58.879 --> 2:38:02.640 I can't really I got so I went. We went 2:38:02.720 --> 2:38:07.400 to Amsterdam. This is when Haro Winna first, like that's 2:38:07.400 --> 2:38:09.320 the first time I ever heard of Herojuanna. I actually 2:38:09.320 --> 2:38:15.200 thought we were smoking heroin, but I just said, I'm 2:38:15.280 --> 2:38:18.560 any way too deep to pull out at this point. 2:38:19.200 --> 2:38:23.000 Fuck it, we're gonna smoke heroin. Yeah, niggas ain't laughing. 2:38:25.800 --> 2:38:30.480 In my mind, like fucking these niggas is mad. This 2:38:30.640 --> 2:38:36.000 is dead. It's not Yeah in my mind, I said, Carojuanna, 2:38:36.680 --> 2:38:40.480 it was so good. It was we don't we don't 2:38:40.520 --> 2:38:46.600 get it that she was and then you came back, 2:38:47.800 --> 2:38:52.879 and then you came back, and then and then then 2:38:53.360 --> 2:38:55.720 like the case happened about two or three years later, 2:38:56.000 --> 2:38:59.800 and people were saying, Biggs with selling but now almost 2:39:00.400 --> 2:39:02.840 almost spoke to like three people and I'm trying to 2:39:03.040 --> 2:39:08.840 explain to people, Bigs, it's really a real smoke that 2:39:09.000 --> 2:39:12.480 Nigga is he ain't doing but this is this is mine, 2:39:12.520 --> 2:39:15.680 So I never actually asked you that. So what happened 2:39:15.720 --> 2:39:19.440 with the case again? Again? One monthime, I'm bother d. 2:39:19.840 --> 2:39:22.240 I introduced to people it was a conspiracy and I 2:39:22.360 --> 2:39:25.000 chose not to tell. That's the short from it's a 2:39:25.160 --> 2:39:32.400 bit stern business. I'm sorry, but we don't take a 2:39:32.400 --> 2:39:34.120 shot of that guy. I'm telling whatever you want me 2:39:34.120 --> 2:39:36.320 to do. Big Big from his brother's camp man, Big Brother, 2:39:36.440 --> 2:39:39.560 Big bab Lau told me everything I know I can discreeze. 2:39:39.840 --> 2:39:41.760 He told me a lot. God bless your soul. Man, 2:39:42.080 --> 2:39:43.959 I knew that wasn't gonna happen. I knew that wasn't 2:39:43.959 --> 2:39:48.080 gonna happen. I wasn't gonna happen. Not Bigger Leo, what 2:39:48.320 --> 2:39:50.800 wasn't gonna happen? Big telling among people who whatever he 2:39:50.879 --> 2:39:53.640 will happen, and that wasn't gonna happen. Big said, give 2:39:53.680 --> 2:39:56.800 me that. But you know BIG's got a big time money, 2:39:56.920 --> 2:39:59.200 so you have to wait for lawyers, biggest promoter as 2:39:59.240 --> 2:40:12.760 much as can, he said, I can't ask me your 2:40:12.760 --> 2:40:19.120 way saying that gonna shill me. So now big, all right, 2:40:19.240 --> 2:40:23.560 let's just look right, okay, let's chet everybody. Everybody please 2:40:23.600 --> 2:40:25.920 give me, give me one second, one second. This is 2:40:26.040 --> 2:40:29.039 this is my time. So now here's the man out 2:40:29.040 --> 2:40:32.040 of question the whole industry that I watched all your 2:40:32.080 --> 2:40:37.440 interviews and they never asked it right when you were 2:40:37.480 --> 2:40:41.720 locked up, right, there was so many rumors, so many things, 2:40:42.360 --> 2:40:46.320 and then you come home. Prior to you coming home, 2:40:46.640 --> 2:40:51.880 Dame had actually did like a publicity run and he 2:40:52.080 --> 2:40:55.880 was quote on how you were mad at people. He 2:40:56.080 --> 2:41:00.760 was like, Biggs is madda Kanye, biggest, madda Jay, biggest 2:41:00.879 --> 2:41:05.520 mad You know why you don't when you get added 2:41:05.600 --> 2:41:10.480 me keep it added, but don't kick So so Dame 2:41:10.680 --> 2:41:13.360 was just he was just running with this right. Well, Dame, 2:41:13.400 --> 2:41:15.400 I actually said, I've seen the interview on Sway. He said, 2:41:15.440 --> 2:41:17.720 Biggs is probably gonna be mad at me for saying 2:41:17.800 --> 2:41:21.840 this because I was coming from him, But I see 2:41:21.879 --> 2:41:24.400 the Brethers Club. He didn't say that, so he did 2:41:24.560 --> 2:41:28.480 afterwards he fixed it. Okay, So why do you think 2:41:28.560 --> 2:41:32.280 Dame took that approach? I'm not sure. I can't. You know, 2:41:32.800 --> 2:41:35.320 Dame is dame, you know, but I didn't feel in 2:41:35.360 --> 2:41:38.199 no way by anybody, all right, So then I'm taking 2:41:38.240 --> 2:41:43.000 it from you coming home. You're coming home. Did anybody 2:41:43.160 --> 2:41:45.440 act funny with you because of those statements? Or no? 2:41:46.000 --> 2:41:48.120 Not at all, because I think the first picture we 2:41:48.200 --> 2:41:50.080 ever seen of you when you came home was in 2:41:50.240 --> 2:41:54.880 Madison school garden, correct with Kanye? Probably? Yeah? Yeah? And 2:41:55.760 --> 2:41:58.280 then like me, I'm fake media now, so the end 2:41:58.280 --> 2:42:02.720 of that, we're crazy s long as your minds. So yeah, 2:42:02.760 --> 2:42:06.280 you could do that when you ready. So did you 2:42:06.440 --> 2:42:09.080 did you? Did you think? Did you? Did you know 2:42:09.160 --> 2:42:11.840 how powerful the internet was it that at that point? 2:42:13.160 --> 2:42:17.400 Definitely you knew it. I wasn't in side Barrier. I 2:42:17.480 --> 2:42:22.680 was in Philadelphia or the Fats. So now you come home, 2:42:24.160 --> 2:42:28.119 you hit this backlash, you hear, you hear what's happening. 2:42:29.160 --> 2:42:34.840 And then the first thing is we hear you say 2:42:35.200 --> 2:42:38.040 you don't got nothing to do with it? Do with that, 2:42:38.800 --> 2:42:42.640 and then you and Jay is in Fairfax and the 2:42:43.160 --> 2:42:47.000 Supreme Block I figet with. Yeah. I called it the 2:42:47.000 --> 2:42:50.119 Supreme Block because the Supreme is right. So they see 2:42:50.160 --> 2:42:54.000 you and there's no dang dash there, and then two 2:42:54.080 --> 2:42:55.880 days later they see me and there did they see 2:42:55.920 --> 2:42:59.680 you and there? Actually you put that together? Mm hmm. 2:43:00.160 --> 2:43:04.680 Give me the problems. Talk about that, Bigs. What happened 2:43:04.680 --> 2:43:08.480 to him? About Big Ye? What happened you reached out 2:43:08.520 --> 2:43:11.280 to me? He was like, yoe um, hey, damn yeah, 2:43:11.280 --> 2:43:14.240 because you know, I'm gonna be honest with you. I 2:43:14.360 --> 2:43:16.240 never said this, and I hope Dame is not mad 2:43:16.280 --> 2:43:20.560 at me. But I looked and I seen you hold together, 2:43:21.760 --> 2:43:24.240 and really you're not told me that. I think prior 2:43:24.320 --> 2:43:28.160 to that it wasn't then, you know, I mean you have. 2:43:28.320 --> 2:43:30.080 I had it, but I spoke on the seeing them, 2:43:30.240 --> 2:43:33.120 so had pictures with J had pictures were day and 2:43:33.240 --> 2:43:37.400 I appreciated it so much because it's just like when 2:43:37.440 --> 2:43:42.360 I see somebody who's with punt Um and now obviously 2:43:42.400 --> 2:43:44.920 punt is not here, I always want to give him 2:43:45.000 --> 2:43:48.000 that same love that if pund was here. So when 2:43:48.040 --> 2:43:51.520 I see Rocket Fellow, it's just I always think of 2:43:51.640 --> 2:43:55.960 y'all three, am I It's the same thing. None changed? 2:43:56.520 --> 2:43:59.440 Am I idiot for thinking that three? Or it's a 2:43:59.480 --> 2:44:01.959 trific that it's all of us. Rockefeller couldn't have ben 2:44:02.040 --> 2:44:06.119 Rocket fell without me, j and Dan Okay, Big Tim, 2:44:06.480 --> 2:44:09.080 So let me actually tell my brothers to this day 2:44:09.120 --> 2:44:16.160 botha god damn. Let's make some days. So now the 2:44:16.240 --> 2:44:21.880 reasonable Doubt album is that owned by you, Dane and Jay. 2:44:22.680 --> 2:44:26.680 I knew that. I knew that. Sorry, Bass, I dispectful. 2:44:26.800 --> 2:44:28.680 I was there for that. I knew what happened to 2:44:28.720 --> 2:44:31.440 that project. Sorr Yo cursed me out. I was there 2:44:31.520 --> 2:44:37.320 for every song day made Babes go Doubt was the 2:44:39.520 --> 2:44:42.440 crew ain't and all that not me? Not Big. They 2:44:42.520 --> 2:44:44.760 got drunk with the student and we did record after 2:44:44.840 --> 2:44:49.240 record after record, all of them names. Yes on the 2:44:49.320 --> 2:44:56.600 West Side, but that's my brothers I remember, so they 2:44:59.200 --> 2:45:01.680 know where I'm from. Yeah, I gotta do what I do, man, 2:45:01.760 --> 2:45:03.960 just want to do. But now it's slum. I gotta 2:45:03.959 --> 2:45:08.200 say that man Big was about stove Emory Tap and 2:45:08.320 --> 2:45:14.040 be talking just your man name to big Time, big time, Yes, sir, 2:45:14.200 --> 2:45:18.000 big time, Yes, sir. We hung out every enough boil makers. 2:45:18.120 --> 2:45:20.680 We had to dive ball nights is Amsterdam, which your 2:45:20.840 --> 2:45:24.080 boy making us beard with shots of bourbon. The tap, 2:45:24.160 --> 2:45:26.880 white people, not the tap is twenty hundred. Garret is 2:45:26.920 --> 2:45:29.080 gonna pay this, So let's just get it others way 2:45:29.160 --> 2:45:32.640 top top one spray right, that's that's a fact. I 2:45:32.680 --> 2:45:34.160 don't know to see that. I don't get into that. 2:45:34.640 --> 2:45:36.480 Just get into you go with your ship. I don't 2:45:36.480 --> 2:45:38.880 know about that. I don't know nothing about the men 2:45:38.920 --> 2:45:42.039 of the Biggs. What I don't know about that? Bigs 2:45:42.080 --> 2:45:48.879 on nothing think you we got you to spill? Man, 2:45:50.320 --> 2:45:55.800 what's good spills? I don't care about this great spills. 2:45:56.280 --> 2:45:59.879 I don't love you, and I love you all loves 2:46:00.040 --> 2:46:04.760 and smokes like if you hit one full life, it's 2:46:04.760 --> 2:46:06.959 not gonna happen. Now, we're not gonna have to drive home. 2:46:07.080 --> 2:46:10.600 I'm good. I love I gotta drive home. You driving 2:46:10.760 --> 2:46:19.520 ships for Miami? What are you driving? Joy? Yeah, I'm 2:46:19.520 --> 2:46:22.200 gonna screw This is the we laugh. This is special man, 2:46:22.720 --> 2:46:24.280 you know that's what I were doing. This is the 2:46:24.440 --> 2:46:33.360 best taste something shop in America. Yeah, the most time. 2:46:33.440 --> 2:46:36.040 My goal list, you know, my goal list to be 2:46:36.120 --> 2:46:40.160 the second best show in America. Podcast. You gonna make 2:46:40.200 --> 2:46:43.560 it up because I gotta This is crazy. I'm gonna 2:46:44.360 --> 2:46:48.959 you know, you know, like half that ship is crazy, right, 2:46:50.240 --> 2:46:55.120 Look a bigs you have a handle a million dollars. 2:46:55.160 --> 2:47:00.520 Bags kissed me on Biggs. They hand the wagon with 2:47:00.680 --> 2:47:05.400 base lovers with a hat a bunch of money played 2:47:05.400 --> 2:47:12.480 in Greek You played the game Great So Big, So Big. 2:47:13.760 --> 2:47:18.400 One of the shows I would like to teach. It's 2:47:18.440 --> 2:47:24.039 called rap class, right, meaning I spent probably like um 2:47:25.879 --> 2:47:31.680 d bigs. Everybody from from seven Tonight two thousand and seven, 2:47:32.400 --> 2:47:36.960 two thousand and seventeen, we might have spent seventeen like 2:47:37.040 --> 2:47:45.320 a million dollars in liquor, right ship, So but we 2:47:45.440 --> 2:47:48.560 still don't understand, like people in the hood still don't 2:47:48.600 --> 2:47:51.600 understand like a good bottle or red one that called 2:47:51.680 --> 2:47:55.920 six hundred dollars. So I wanted to teach rap class, 2:47:57.000 --> 2:48:01.400 meaning you know we you you say, I want to 2:48:01.400 --> 2:48:05.280 spend this, but you get this, like I see the 2:48:05.320 --> 2:48:11.480 pictures with about say that, um Steve Stout. You see 2:48:11.760 --> 2:48:14.960 that that photograph or where Steve Stout was coming from 2:48:15.040 --> 2:48:20.360 Italy and and they actually pulled Steve Stout over and 2:48:20.440 --> 2:48:23.000 he was sitting there and he had all these bottles, 2:48:23.080 --> 2:48:26.520 and I had, you know, I got white friends, So 2:48:26.640 --> 2:48:29.760 I had the white friends google every bottle that he had, 2:48:31.160 --> 2:48:34.360 and every bottle that he had was like dirty seven hunted. 2:48:36.440 --> 2:48:39.680 But it was ship that I never heard of, and 2:48:39.760 --> 2:48:43.160 I'm like, damn, I want to drink that do you 2:48:43.240 --> 2:48:54.480 think we need wrap class noise, because that's real ship. 2:48:54.959 --> 2:48:57.279 We spend money on the liquor, but we don't understand 2:48:57.360 --> 2:48:59.879 what we're actually buying. It's just like when Hole says, 2:49:00.000 --> 2:49:04.840 stop buying Christal. We didn't understand that he actually um 2:49:05.200 --> 2:49:08.879 applied something for it to be replaceable with Mason's spade 2:49:09.800 --> 2:49:16.520 or drinking something else besides the rock. I said, that's 2:49:16.560 --> 2:49:18.440 what I'm trying to say. That's what he That's what 2:49:18.640 --> 2:49:31.200 Jay said. He said, I love drink something. Drink when 2:49:32.600 --> 2:49:35.480 it is big, is gonna smoke up from like, Oh no, 2:49:36.959 --> 2:49:40.120 ill is it because you're on your workout ship. You 2:49:40.280 --> 2:49:44.040 just beat parole, correct, probation, probation, Let's make some big. 2:49:45.360 --> 2:49:52.040 Let's okay, so you beat probation, I ain't beat it. 2:49:52.200 --> 2:49:59.040 I got it, he finish. So when it's big is 2:49:59.120 --> 2:50:01.760 coming you this guy right here, his name is Jordan's. 2:50:03.080 --> 2:50:08.640 He's the biggest weed growing in Rhode Islands. Correct undirect 2:50:09.879 --> 2:50:11.840 Because big is about your whole farm. You gotta likes. 2:50:14.920 --> 2:50:18.760 So when this BIG's coming back home to the country, 2:50:19.120 --> 2:50:22.520 I don't know. You don't know. Right now, I'm just 2:50:22.560 --> 2:50:26.560 trying to actually just drink wine myself. That's it. That's it, y'all. 2:50:26.560 --> 2:50:28.280 Remember at one point you should come to a crab 2:50:28.640 --> 2:50:30.800 and you used to stop like three weeks after like 2:50:30.920 --> 2:50:33.120 before you go to see the po and then you 2:50:33.280 --> 2:50:37.480 just make cookies. You just used me as you were 2:50:37.520 --> 2:50:41.240 just told like seven ounces one cookie without your hair 2:50:41.360 --> 2:50:53.640 already small word. Just watch me, you know, listen, I 2:50:53.720 --> 2:50:55.960 sweeter guard. I'm not a line. It's so different, man. 2:50:55.959 --> 2:50:58.040 It's my boy. It's the first time I ever smoked 2:50:58.080 --> 2:51:04.480 the volcano. You know what? Little they got seven different 2:51:04.560 --> 2:51:10.040 things and I'm smoking. I'm too hot. What can I do? 2:51:10.440 --> 2:51:15.840 He's like taking another cookie? Yo, I'm missed. I missed. 2:51:16.560 --> 2:51:18.560 He's just kind of like three or four times a week. 2:51:19.280 --> 2:51:20.880 I'm not gonna lie. I think it was four or 2:51:20.920 --> 2:51:26.000 five yo. Yo. My first date with my wife was 2:51:26.200 --> 2:51:28.920 like a big I'm taking to get something to eat. 2:51:30.640 --> 2:51:32.400 We're gonna go to big scrib after that. But you 2:51:32.440 --> 2:51:36.760 feel like a king. Man, feel like a king. How 2:51:36.840 --> 2:51:40.480 did we get back? I don't smoke that ship. I 2:51:40.520 --> 2:51:43.720 don't smoke Williams. You know you know our engineering, Okain, 2:51:44.760 --> 2:51:57.040 don't get mad at what you're doing. Cocaine cocaine has 2:51:57.120 --> 2:51:59.560 don't do it. I only see whom do coke on 2:51:59.680 --> 2:52:04.280 face to that's it nine persons, your artists? How the 2:52:04.520 --> 2:52:07.840 how was it? How was it just you know, um 2:52:08.640 --> 2:52:11.440 dealing with Rocket Feller Because a lot of people they 2:52:11.520 --> 2:52:14.960 think it was just Jaye, right, they think it was 2:52:15.040 --> 2:52:19.120 jay and that's it. But you dealt with with everything 2:52:19.200 --> 2:52:22.960 as a person that there was inside? How was it 2:52:23.040 --> 2:52:25.880 dealing with like people are artists like pe craft, artists 2:52:25.920 --> 2:52:29.560 like a freeway and you know, I mean for me, 2:52:29.640 --> 2:52:31.920 it was it was natural. They just people from the block. 2:52:32.240 --> 2:52:34.680 That's who you know, dealt with every day, so probably 2:52:35.040 --> 2:52:37.480 all the exact way of problems with that. For me, 2:52:37.560 --> 2:52:39.280 it was just natural. That's why they related to me. 2:52:39.400 --> 2:52:41.800 That's why everybody gravitated towards me, because I was just 2:52:41.959 --> 2:52:45.720 like them. That's the fact. What did I tell you? 2:52:46.640 --> 2:52:49.240 I went to biggest to get you. I knew that. 2:52:49.920 --> 2:52:54.039 I went to the your d I love you big, 2:52:54.560 --> 2:52:57.480 I love you big face, Gary, I love you. You 2:52:57.600 --> 2:53:03.680 came at me way more than that, came to your no, 2:53:03.879 --> 2:53:05.560 way bigger than I will ever be in my life. 2:53:08.879 --> 2:53:11.880 I'm gonna be when you rock yeah and I picture 2:53:12.040 --> 2:53:19.119 and then we're done. Thank y'all so much for I'm 2:53:19.120 --> 2:53:23.440 gonna be honest. I'm gonna be these big champagne niggers. 2:53:23.640 --> 2:53:25.880 They did it way before me. I just want to know, 2:53:26.200 --> 2:53:29.480 did you'll ever see him? 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