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Speaker 1: We don't get to get into what happened in the streets.

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00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:42,680
Speaker 1: But when they come to you, you're saying, damon, Jay

424
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 1: already had this popping, right, they already had this going.

425
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:50,560
Speaker 1: They came they had the name fell to hok okay.

426
00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:54,359
Speaker 1: So they come to you and they say what He

427
00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:57,840
Speaker 1: was like, yeo, let's do this together because you had

428
00:26:57,880 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 1: the business mind we at that time when it was

429
00:27:00,040 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 1: hanging together probably every day for like a year and

430
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 1: a half. So this is in my lifetime is already out.

431
00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:09,119
Speaker 1: I can't get with that. This is probably right. I

432
00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:13,240
Speaker 1: can't after that. Yeah, right after, I can't get with

433
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:20,360
Speaker 1: that four years old. You got to relax. My lifetime

434
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:24,879
Speaker 1: in my lifetime, remix in my lifetime, yeah, which is

435
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,360
Speaker 1: one of the most people heard yeah, but the remix,

436
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 1: you know we did. We came back and did the

437
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,879
Speaker 1: video forge here for the remix. It was right after

438
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:34,879
Speaker 1: that that we put it together and then the first

439
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:38,440
Speaker 1: forgot the first song that we don't even remember the

440
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,959
Speaker 1: first song we might have put out. It was right

441
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 1: after in My Lifetime remix though. Now Biggs, I know

442
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 1: you personally, like to me and all of my niggas,

443
00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:52,720
Speaker 1: I close my eyes. All of my niggas was like,

444
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 1: nor we love Biggs right, And this the thing is,

445
00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 1: you've never been industry lives like you've never been, like

446
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 1: you made all the money in and you were still

447
00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 1: as hood as loved it. How the fund do you

448
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 1: do that? Like? How do you make all the money

449
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:15,720
Speaker 1: in the world? Like I remember one time I came

450
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:17,200
Speaker 1: to a crib and you was hitting me on. I

451
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,439
Speaker 1: didn't even see you, who was just buzzing me and

452
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:29,600
Speaker 1: your norry you good as we downstairs like you know,

453
00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 1: the bathrooms over He talked to me about to cry.

454
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 1: Don't cry, don't cry yet. I got some ship. I

455
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:43,200
Speaker 1: got some ship. No no, no, no, how did you never?

456
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:45,760
Speaker 1: Like I mean, I'm gonna be honest with you, like

457
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 1: not only that you know, you're invited me to my career,

458
00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 1: Like my my second day I ever had, my wife

459
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 1: is at your house. Wow, that's crazy. Like I came through,

460
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 1: I was say a big you don't like no? No,

461
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 1: he was like, no, your girls don't even want it's cute.

462
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 1: It's like the business. Big shut me down. He's like,

463
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 1: you girl, good cookies. But I come to the biggest

464
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:23,400
Speaker 1: house almost everything. Keep it real. No, there's no pictures

465
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 1: that it was none of that. But how how do

466
00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:32,000
Speaker 1: you maintain your sanity? Like especially like I not now

467
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 1: I'm talking about fact. Then you was getting so much money.

468
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,880
Speaker 1: It was so ridiculous. I remember one time y'all just

469
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 1: told me to come to answer dam for no reason.

470
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:53,720
Speaker 1: Herijuana are you trying to realize? Sorry, no, we're gonna

471
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:59,280
Speaker 1: get into it. But but but let's let's just maintain

472
00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:02,560
Speaker 1: I think you sa like I've never seen you go

473
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 1: create coming into the game doing well. So it wasn't

474
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 1: much that change, you know what I'm saying. So obviously

475
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 1: it was checks instead, right, So you know what I mean,

476
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 1: the way you got money change, But it wasn't that

477
00:30:16,400 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 1: much of a change where you know what I I mean,

478
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,680
Speaker 1: you really had to change who you are? You know

479
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 1: what I mean? Now, big face Gaby, how you doing so?

480
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 1: I'm just living that. I'm good. Are you drinking and

481
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 1: Susa water? Yeah, let's talk about that pup Daddy story.

482
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 1: Pup Daddy told you don't drink with the help. He

483
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 1: disrespected me big time. What was happening with me? Bigs

484
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 1: dat win l A with all of us. I ain't

485
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 1: know about the music. I just came out of jail.

486
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 1: Bigg on them was like I was making swording threetys

487
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 1: a week. They're living food for shelter. I was hanging

488
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 1: down no shelter. I was working. I was hanging with

489
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 1: names six and more the damon for a badly day.

490
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:55,160
Speaker 1: They said, what do you make a week? I said

491
00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:58,960
Speaker 1: to fifty? They said, okay, fuck the megas. I want

492
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 1: to pay you any grandy year just to hang with us.

493
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 1: You learn the business, You're gonna get a lot more money, man,

494
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 1: I said them niggas. So I had them niggas every

495
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 1: day to drink and snap. Okay, So now I want

496
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 1: you to tell me because I listen. You know, I listen.

497
00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 1: It's the rail, It's the race of risk, so bad.

498
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 1: Listen to it. Official I had missed you, and you

499
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 1: know I you know I love y'all niggas like robbing.

500
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:27,560
Speaker 1: Y'all was my stinning family. So what was your first

501
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 1: memory of jay Z? Come on, you can mix it.

502
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 1: You can get like my first memory juice of something,

503
00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 1: because just here, yeah, I feel like you were the first.

504
00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 1: My memory of Rocket Feller is like I said, it's

505
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 1: not I don't know. I'm good mean beings every day,

506
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 1: Like I said, Bags was ridiculous. We just drink every day,

507
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 1: called me twelve o'clock. We drink from twelve and afternoon

508
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 1: to literally the next morning. We didn't stop. Damn music,

509
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 1: bags and talking about music. We're pushing this range over

510
00:31:55,840 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 1: no gas gas on the regular were put us rage

511
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:07,880
Speaker 1: on his laughing. I bought a brand new bag. My

512
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 1: ship cut out on me even laughing, like honestly, my biggest,

513
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 1: my biggest Mammy and Jay honestly to one of the

514
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 1: ones was one night we always drunk. Bigges ain't for

515
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:24,960
Speaker 1: drive normal for so I played off a lot, and

516
00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:28,480
Speaker 1: so I gotta do something. Jay parked on the hydrant

517
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 1: because gesture hunted and she got told, so he didn't know.

518
00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 1: So I got caught out to drive j home, big

519
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 1: him laugh. I drove him home, so I said, I said, J,

520
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,959
Speaker 1: you hid you? You hide this mom. He said, put

521
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 1: anything on yo, Nori. I drove him from my block

522
00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 1: to State Street and Brooklyn. That motherfucker hit me with

523
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,960
Speaker 1: so more run. But my face was it was skinny

524
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 1: like his man. When he see was saying ship, they

525
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 1: make no sense. I said, this is what the fund

526
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 1: you're just saying, and this is jay Z jay Z,

527
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,560
Speaker 1: no deal, no nothing. I'm not talking about what he

528
00:33:07,600 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 1: had on him. That's it's over. He was jay Z

529
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:14,600
Speaker 1: MPV with BBS. I thought I had a Maserati bigs

530
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,000
Speaker 1: had a bunch of you know, sorry, but I'm not

531
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 1: pulling out their biggs half range rovers legends hoop these

532
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,960
Speaker 1: to him and you in what kind of car MPV,

533
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:30,160
Speaker 1: BB swims? Anybody want to judge this MPV? Was that ship?

534
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 1: Maybe he was like su Bourbon you. I was doing okay,

535
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 1: but not like I was in this. I'm not gonna

536
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 1: I did my time the streets back then. No one

537
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:43,720
Speaker 1: did the level of my brothers. But I did okay

538
00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:46,520
Speaker 1: for myself. But anyway, so I drove Jay home. He

539
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 1: was saying ship that I called Biggs. The next day,

540
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 1: I said, ja this, Karran, I told you so big,

541
00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 1: that's the bigg that's my biggest donner. He's infested, he's

542
00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 1: down business in the group. I said, big, this motherfucker's

543
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 1: I told you Gary, Because let me just tell you

544
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 1: something about Biggs. It's it's so hard to get Biggs

545
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 1: to get them down with something. He's so laid back

546
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 1: at Once you get him down with you all the way,

547
00:34:13,120 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 1: he'll stop. That's what I knew. Like because listen, Biggs

548
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:25,720
Speaker 1: always say I never signed the contract everybody to please.

549
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 1: They were so rich. I was begging them. I was like,

550
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:37,879
Speaker 1: give you a contract, just like th flattening them out here.

551
00:34:38,840 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 1: The contract there, gonna sen it to you Monday. That's how.

552
00:34:42,520 --> 00:34:45,360
Speaker 1: That's how. But but let me just tell you something X.

553
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 1: I remember, and I'll tell my people this. All the

554
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:53,920
Speaker 1: time you had an African driver forget his name, to

555
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:59,760
Speaker 1: my nigger and every two weeks, just out the blue,

556
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 1: I too, would just show up in my house and

557
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 1: I'll be like, I'll come outside and then Biggers are

558
00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 1: calling me, be like I can smell it from here.

559
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:12,760
Speaker 1: I'm like, are you talking about like you're smoking haze?

560
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 1: You hated me smoking, and this is hay Is at

561
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 1: the time. He's like, motherfucker, look at outside with a

562
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 1: cookie job full of weed and be like being city

563
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:33,319
Speaker 1: for you. And I was like, you know, the thing

564
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:37,120
Speaker 1: about bigs was because because when I say big is

565
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:40,680
Speaker 1: the best CEO and not start with that story, sometimes

566
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 1: people think I'm basing it off because you gave me

567
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 1: weed or you gave me. The thing about it was,

568
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:49,000
Speaker 1: I would come to you with logical ship and you

569
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 1: always approved every budget. I just had to come with

570
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 1: something logical. Thank you. Do you think the black CEO

571
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:02,719
Speaker 1: it's not existing no more because us of that? Um?

572
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't. I don't think that a

573
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 1: lot of other CEOs today believe in the artist the

574
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 1: way we did, you know, because with us, it was

575
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 1: more relationship. It wasn't just about the business, you know

576
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:16,840
Speaker 1: what I mean. We cared about what was going on

577
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:19,479
Speaker 1: in every artist personal life. If you was going through something,

578
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:20,960
Speaker 1: if he was going something with your kid, if you

579
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 1: got through gotten a problem on your block. We had

580
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 1: to move people, you know what I mean, send him

581
00:36:25,239 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 1: out of town, unless it was we was more invested

582
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 1: than just um from the business standpoint. Yeah, that was official. Yeah,

583
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 1: now it was there for that. He made a good point.

584
00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 1: I remember when I was working for Rockford things to

585
00:36:40,600 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 1: pick on me. I was a mama's boy. I ain't

586
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,400
Speaker 1: wanna leave my mama. I think we lived a man.

587
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 1: I'm back and for a couple of women living life.

588
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 1: May see with your mom be you stick with your mom.

589
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 1: I'm back and forth. I'm i gonna say what he did.

590
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:56,839
Speaker 1: It must thin't got his way, as I will say

591
00:36:56,880 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 1: his name. He cut me a check to get your

592
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 1: own crib maga one day on me and Dame was

593
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 1: losing Dame crib and we got in your car. We

594
00:37:04,640 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 1: both got a rash that my caddy. Yeah, he eating

595
00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 1: me up a little bit. You don't right, say somebody

596
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 1: I can take getting You know what you didn't get

597
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 1: out there, y'all get out good rid about me. I

598
00:37:23,680 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 1: didn't pay for myself, y'all. Love was another love with me.

599
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,600
Speaker 1: I'm just happy that we were friends. You know were good.

600
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 1: But Biggs, man, I'm gonna tell you again. I got

601
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:36,200
Speaker 1: another story right in the studio, told hook who named

602
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 1: Rocket Feller drunk as a skunk? They can I live verse?

603
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:44,480
Speaker 1: Can you get the first right? J? That's my favorite

604
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 1: record of all time. Sam on the Hook, that's my

605
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:49,719
Speaker 1: favorite record of ball to bus. Yeah, that's my He

606
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 1: was drunk as a skunk. Jay on't write big said,

607
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 1: thank you pissing me off your bath people. Jake write

608
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 1: up to Jake, j wonte some ship Russians. I don't

609
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:00,640
Speaker 1: know what Russia. Biggest note this is my rosh can

610
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 1: I live? Tonk was drunk because I'm saying Jay wrote,

611
00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 1: because you say no Call was Jay's record, but we

612
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 1: gave to a verse too filthy drunk. Dame couldn't take

613
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 1: it no more. So he said, you gotta write the verse.

614
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 1: I can't take this show the more. J wrote some

615
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:17,359
Speaker 1: ship looked like Russia. You know all right, we don't

616
00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:20,320
Speaker 1: leave our cars. We've bottom as you should. My confederate

617
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 1: that explode on the set nation in my life base.

618
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 1: He wrote that verse. I was like, oh my god.

619
00:38:26,239 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 1: Tone Tonka's verse tone was so drunk Dame could have

620
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,279
Speaker 1: taken them more. That's when Jay wrote that verse, Man,

621
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,760
Speaker 1: we don't lease. He was like, he's did a six minutes.

622
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:39,520
Speaker 1: Actually that was my line. What bass gonna saying. I'm

623
00:38:39,560 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 1: gonna say this, I hate the biggest me Bass got

624
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,880
Speaker 1: a personal friendship. He's a little cocky, but he's right.

625
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 1: A lot of sheep was written was through Biggs life. Man,

626
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:48,680
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna name it Biggest real keep talking about business,

627
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 1: mind cars because saying no, but I'm that's I'm a mouth.

628
00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 1: That's my man. You're saying it was biggest money that

629
00:38:55,480 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 1: started rocking. Everybody know that. I don't know that. I'm that.

630
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 1: I'm cheating bottles of chamtague. I'm a country club king,

631
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Speaker 1: boles of champagne. I'm chinking bottles of champagne as biggest cream.

632
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Speaker 1: I bluntr ball. I'm walking to the club, Big said,

633
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Speaker 1: Big Favor. We're good here, Buckets, listen, I'm not making

634
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Speaker 1: this up. Bottles this hiding on and make them ships,

635
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Speaker 1: you don't make them Biggest. Sitting there, it's Biggs had

636
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Speaker 1: It's like handcuff bracelets. It was like handcuff. So we're

637
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Speaker 1: laying a little, we're talking shape, drinking, laughing. Literally, I'm like, yo,

638
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Speaker 1: big what Then Bag said, Big Faith, you don't not

639
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Speaker 1: worry about nothing. We're good. Mic Oh sorry, sorry, we

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641
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Speaker 1: big big country club big bottles of champagne. Oh type

642
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Speaker 1: of ship. It was just ridiculous. But my set, like

643
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Speaker 1: I said that memory when Jay wrote that gibberish, I

644
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Speaker 1: know what the ship was. But that was Tone Booker's

645
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Speaker 1: first man. That's my favor breakerd Javid there all time,

646
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Speaker 1: can I live? I love that record. So now you

647
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Speaker 1: guys are both farther. You meet this guy from Brooklyn.

648
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Speaker 1: Right now, you'll believe right now, you'll believe you're you're

649
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Speaker 1: one of the foot soldiers. So so what what what

650
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Speaker 1: makes y'all say let's go full fledh on this whole project?

651
00:40:21,280 --> 00:40:24,120
Speaker 1: What was it was it? Was it a single record?

652
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:26,439
Speaker 1: Or was it just now? I don't think I don't

653
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Speaker 1: even think we had that many traditionally apologize for traditionally

654
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Speaker 1: back then, if you're from Queen's, you stay with Queen's.

655
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Speaker 1: People from Brooklyn stay with Brooklyn. We will pass out

656
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Speaker 1: of Remember at this time we were already um friends

657
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:44,200
Speaker 1: for two years, you and Jack. Yeah, okay, continue, yeah,

658
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Speaker 1: So when you know when they said to do it already,

659
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Speaker 1: this is after in my lifetime and the remix. So

660
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Speaker 1: at this time I'm a believer, you know what I'm saying.

661
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Speaker 1: So when we put it together, we put that reasonable

662
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Speaker 1: down album together. I'm not sure. I think maybe uh

663
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Speaker 1: coming to age, coming to the age of the oldest

664
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Speaker 1: song on the album, who knows because him and you

665
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,359
Speaker 1: know they did that with Clark prior, all the old

666
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Speaker 1: all those Clark songs and what's the other ship? Uh

667
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Speaker 1: in my life two twos? I mean obviously because he

668
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Speaker 1: used to perform that all the time. And cash Mere thoughts.

669
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Speaker 1: Those are the those are those are the three older

670
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671
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Speaker 1: Shout out to Kenny Burns, Kenny bron We dominated that weekend,

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Speaker 1: dominated Jack the Rapper. What big talk about it because

676
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Speaker 1: there's nobody in this podcast I ever talked about Big

677
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Speaker 1: say we go to Atlanta. We're getting jackets and were

721
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Speaker 1: getting rooms. We're gonna chip in it. We're gonna play

722
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723
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724
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725
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Speaker 1: bigger on them. In the limo we put rocket had

726
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727
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Speaker 1: feller plays on a limo. Damn no buggy. We went

728
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Speaker 1: to some part base from I don't know the party.

729
00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 1: Jay was really Jay Rome Hi talk man. We went

730
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Speaker 1: to a party and pass on mind. Ja flipped the

731
00:45:01,160 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 1: table over my baby. Remember they flipped the table over. Yo.

732
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:09,319
Speaker 1: Jay started wrapping and I was like yo. The people

733
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Speaker 1: was like, who is this motherfucker? But the ship was

734
00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:13,920
Speaker 1: so hot, People like, oh what the fuck? You know?

735
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Speaker 1: You do the soul trade line. We all Hall the

736
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Speaker 1: Week dance, so you know it took j nine minutes

737
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:23,879
Speaker 1: ago through that line. He rapped like he like this yeah,

738
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:31,320
Speaker 1: through the line. He literally that's how you do it.

739
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 1: He was so quiet and smooth. We went to Jack

740
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:35,879
Speaker 1: the Rabbit. We had a ball man and that's when

741
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:37,919
Speaker 1: I said, big, this is really gonna happened back. Okay,

742
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:39,480
Speaker 1: So let me let me ask you are both right,

743
00:45:39,480 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 1: because both of you are describing, you know, both of

744
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 1: your own experiences, which is so awesome. Right, but when

745
00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:49,839
Speaker 1: individually did you really know Javis special? Because the thing

746
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:51,680
Speaker 1: about it is, I don't give a funk. This is

747
00:45:51,719 --> 00:45:53,960
Speaker 1: my nephew right here. I think he's special. Maybe I

748
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,359
Speaker 1: think he's special because he's my nephew. Maybe I think

749
00:45:56,400 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 1: he's special because he's special. I don't know, but I

750
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 1: would have to find out years down the line. Right,

751
00:46:03,360 --> 00:46:07,480
Speaker 1: So when was the moment for you guys the battle

752
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 1: with DMX? Now, du was there? Which one? There was

753
00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:28,839
Speaker 1: only one the Bronx, Yeah, table, Yeah, it's a good thing.

754
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:35,319
Speaker 1: D from motherfucker bro Riders is there. I'm sorry, big,

755
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 1: you gotta share them. So described this battle because we

756
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 1: heard we heard from um uh Dane Earth, We heard

757
00:46:48,239 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 1: from herb but Earth said he wasn't there, correct. We

758
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:54,600
Speaker 1: heard from lee All no le All said he wasn't there.

759
00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:58,359
Speaker 1: Le All wasn't there. Um but we heard from pretty

760
00:46:58,440 --> 00:46:59,719
Speaker 1: much it was. It was a couple of people that

761
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:01,760
Speaker 1: to tell of the people that talked about this battle.

762
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 1: So I would love to hear D from Rough Riders

763
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 1: describe this moment. It was. It was, it was in

764
00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 1: the Bronx of the number it was, it wasn't even

765
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:15,359
Speaker 1: it was it was in the pool and the Bronx.

766
00:47:15,440 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 1: It was Webster like I want so many and one

767
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:25,200
Speaker 1: of them blocks was cool or guys was good with everybody,

768
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 1: We're good everything. It was good. So what happened? How

769
00:47:28,120 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 1: did they put these two? Like I said, we didn't

770
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Speaker 1: know d and why I said we knew Steve Mac

771
00:47:32,360 --> 00:47:36,320
Speaker 1: and Steve Mac was they? Okay? Mike from my building,

772
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 1: one of my buildings up on Broadway and Harlem, so

773
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:43,000
Speaker 1: I knew it wasn't even a battle for X. It

774
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 1: was a battle for UM. I think it was a

775
00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:49,720
Speaker 1: Hall of Nights and somebody else right the original flavors

776
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:55,640
Speaker 1: briginal flavors, So it wasn't even supposed to be um. Uh.

777
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 1: It just happened to exactly. So they was battle when

778
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:01,399
Speaker 1: and then X was over here, and I guess HOLD

779
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 1: was over there, and it was better on the two

780
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 1: other people was better. I don't know who they was battling,

781
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:07,840
Speaker 1: but I don't know. Mack and him have some people battling.

782
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 1: So they was daring and it wasn't really doing much.

783
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 1: And then I guess ex got on the table, holding

784
00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 1: on the table. Then we put them both on the

785
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:21,759
Speaker 1: table and then they started battling from there on the table. First, Yeah,

786
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 1: so D who won that battle? Yep, that battle You

787
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:29,600
Speaker 1: really can't say nobody one because they both was good.

788
00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:34,960
Speaker 1: So I gave it like everybody both like when you

789
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:37,799
Speaker 1: hear it on both sides, people like, it was a

790
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:41,120
Speaker 1: tough battle. I mean, everybody kind of giving it up.

791
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 1: Ain't nobody like, yo, this was the clearest And if

792
00:48:44,600 --> 00:48:46,840
Speaker 1: anybody on that side say D M X one, you

793
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 1: ain't mad. If anybody on this side saying J it

794
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 1: was that close like it was. It was tight, like

795
00:48:54,000 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 1: it was a battle where you had to give it

796
00:48:56,840 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 1: up for both sides. And plus it was an experience

797
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 1: for X as well as whole because they both had

798
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 1: different styles and energy, so they learned off each other.

799
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 1: So that's what made it the whole world this way,

800
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:10,800
Speaker 1: an X that way, he was like, oh, shoot, he

801
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 1: learned something from next hohopeably learned something from them. And

802
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 1: they both had two unique styles and nobody really wanted

803
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 1: was just it was like a draw. But we just

804
00:49:18,200 --> 00:49:22,720
Speaker 1: had herb Gotti on right, and it came out tonight.

805
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:36,320
Speaker 1: What's the nights? They second the second second and Herbs said,

806
00:49:36,840 --> 00:49:42,800
Speaker 1: this is the only battle with DMX felt like he won,

807
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:49,360
Speaker 1: but he felt like the people chose um Jack. Do

808
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:52,439
Speaker 1: you think irv's correcting us the statement, I don't think

809
00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:55,400
Speaker 1: nobody chose anybody. It wasn't even like that. It was

810
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:59,319
Speaker 1: just like it was said that Jay rom and he

811
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 1: left to that, and that's what made DMX mad at him.

812
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:06,360
Speaker 1: That's what the Earth said, right, I'm correct, this is

813
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 1: not my birth. I don't really I don't really know

814
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:12,759
Speaker 1: who stayed left, but we was there. Somebody got on

815
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 1: at the end, some dude that was real nice. I

816
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 1: don't know if you remember that, some guy from the

817
00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:19,560
Speaker 1: crowd or whatever. He jumped on the table, super nice

818
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:21,800
Speaker 1: and he just like kicked the verse and then that

819
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:28,799
Speaker 1: was it. Everybody was goingbody remembers him, don't remember it

820
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:35,480
Speaker 1: was nice. Every time got on, everybody went crazy. Every

821
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 1: time Jay got on, everybody went crazy. So does at

822
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 1: any point in this type of battle, is it aggressive?

823
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:46,120
Speaker 1: It's just lyrics. It's just rhyming. Yeah, just the cruising.

824
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:49,400
Speaker 1: I think somebody pull out a gun one time, but

825
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:54,279
Speaker 1: it was a part of the aggressive guns. Guns is

826
00:50:54,320 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 1: gonna come out, Okay, you this battle right with the

827
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 1: Rothers had this battle right now years later. Right, you

828
00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:13,400
Speaker 1: guys are both on depth there, you guys are both

829
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 1: blacking them artists. And then you guys do this tour.

830
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:21,200
Speaker 1: What was the name of the talk? Was it the

831
00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:25,960
Speaker 1: hard Life? And it was DMX on there as well,

832
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 1: and then DMX and I think Hole was sharing the closing.

833
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:33,399
Speaker 1: I'm not sure you would correct me if I'm wrong.

834
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 1: And then it was like reading math from the beginning.

835
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 1: And then it was like Memphis Bleak and then it's

836
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:42,319
Speaker 1: the it's the famous ship where um def Jam bought

837
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:50,040
Speaker 1: somebody a jacket, memp Bleak Bleak and answered my course

838
00:51:50,080 --> 00:52:00,239
Speaker 1: and dropped the Gotti drop. So sorry it was let

839
00:52:00,360 --> 00:52:04,200
Speaker 1: let me just give me. But you guys have this tour.

840
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:13,879
Speaker 1: This was the first hip hop talk no violence. Correct, Yeah,

841
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 1: sold out shows. I only went to one show. I

842
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:24,799
Speaker 1: don't know what you guys have been on the block

843
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 1: drinking basically, okay me, I need I need to describe

844
00:52:34,680 --> 00:52:39,560
Speaker 1: that talk because that tall single handedly was the tall

845
00:52:39,719 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 1: that helped set hip hop back. Wasn't the hard night

846
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:46,320
Speaker 1: life talk, No, it wasn't hard on. What was the

847
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:54,319
Speaker 1: name of that talk it was? I wasn't the rough Rider.

848
00:52:55,000 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 1: It's rough Riders. I think it was again that so

849
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 1: now let's just stop me if I'm wrong. Deep all

850
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 1: big it was j d MX and then meth and

851
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:23,200
Speaker 1: Red prior to that. Yes, it isn't nothing hard enough like, yeah,

852
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:34,360
Speaker 1: it's Google because right now, so how's you not googling

853
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:43,560
Speaker 1: my so deep? How was that? Because y'all? Actually RB,

854
00:53:43,840 --> 00:53:46,799
Speaker 1: we also had Earth. I'm sorry her give us so

855
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:53,239
Speaker 1: much so Herb said, Lee All played all three of

856
00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:57,399
Speaker 1: the clues, meaning he played murder Inc. He made murder

857
00:53:57,480 --> 00:54:01,080
Speaker 1: Inc Happy for one point. Then he came and married

858
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:03,320
Speaker 1: Rock and Feller have it was hot, and then he

859
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:08,839
Speaker 1: came and me rough Riders happy, and then he said,

860
00:54:09,040 --> 00:54:11,879
Speaker 1: this is Erv's exact words. We could actually, he said,

861
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:16,600
Speaker 1: he played us like a fit to do. I think

862
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 1: we're gonna do that. I don't know. They all definitely

863
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:22,920
Speaker 1: make us feel anyway against anybody else. You know, Dame

864
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 1: would have handled that. How about you know it was good.

865
00:54:27,560 --> 00:54:32,080
Speaker 1: We're always good. We're gonna look at on Earth right now.

866
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:39,399
Speaker 1: That might have been problem. Definitely not a problem for me.

867
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:43,879
Speaker 1: Different type of problems. Yea, So it's just a case. Yeah,

868
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:47,760
Speaker 1: I didn't see IRV got the interview. It's on Thursday,

869
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:51,960
Speaker 1: it's all right now you're talking. You don't know when

870
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 1: we found this out, but tippy m in case you

871
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:59,720
Speaker 1: didn't see how they came out already. In case you

872
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:04,879
Speaker 1: not face Gary, what's up, big face Gary? You were

873
00:55:04,920 --> 00:55:08,880
Speaker 1: the number one soldier of Rocket. Yeah. I love them boys.

874
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:12,960
Speaker 1: I love traded my life for Round. You still love him?

875
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:17,759
Speaker 1: Why I have different like? I love that. What was

876
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:21,359
Speaker 1: your most difficult part of working for Rocket? Full name

877
00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:23,719
Speaker 1: mood swings Man. He was going through a personal shift.

878
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:25,560
Speaker 1: I don't know what it was. And be honest, he's

879
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:28,279
Speaker 1: a snap. I used to hang out rest in his bigges,

880
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:29,759
Speaker 1: big girls. He got in your car, he got a

881
00:55:29,840 --> 00:55:32,360
Speaker 1: rash No, no, well I don't remember that. But you

882
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:34,919
Speaker 1: know whatever I had, Well, I was a big big brother,

883
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:36,600
Speaker 1: was my man. I looked up and put me in

884
00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:39,800
Speaker 1: Harlem and anything. I know, God, God bless. But I

885
00:55:39,880 --> 00:55:41,920
Speaker 1: just people that he should never talk to me crazy.

886
00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:45,520
Speaker 1: Since I started working for him. He named Luca Rossi,

887
00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:48,680
Speaker 1: which is a good thing because caause that means everything

888
00:55:48,719 --> 00:55:51,279
Speaker 1: asked me, but I got done. But then I don't

889
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:53,320
Speaker 1: know that is personal. It's just I will never know them.

890
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:56,360
Speaker 1: But they started getting real nasty for no reason. But

891
00:55:56,440 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 1: now that I'm forty seven, since ten years of his later,

892
00:56:00,600 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 1: I know what it was. It was personal things he

893
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:04,960
Speaker 1: was going through. But I say this on this Mike,

894
00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 1: I loved you, Dame. You put me on, Biggs putting

895
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:10,280
Speaker 1: me on, and like, Damn you put me on, Biggs

896
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:13,000
Speaker 1: put me on. If you'd just told me just going through.

897
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 1: Oh Jay, I don't even talk about Jake. That's my nigga.

898
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 1: I love Jack, come on not but what you said

899
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:27,120
Speaker 1: that he always said to me, I shout a big

900
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 1: story for me, ja, big Dame ja in a minute.

901
00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 1: You know who knows this story. But Biggs got me

902
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:35,520
Speaker 1: and I love that. But my point is, I love

903
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:38,240
Speaker 1: Damon bigg so much. But I love Biggs because Bigges

904
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:40,359
Speaker 1: brother was my man. And Biggs put me on too,

905
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:44,160
Speaker 1: and our game talking about and our projects. Then Dame

906
00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:46,480
Speaker 1: put me to the game. But the problem what Dame

907
00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:48,880
Speaker 1: my opinion was, he was going through a lot personally

908
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:51,600
Speaker 1: because I know he's a coluna. Everything's on him. So

909
00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 1: I'm like, I love Dame. Some of your pull me

910
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 1: to the side. I'm going through something there staring yell

911
00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 1: at me and curse me because you first, I don't

912
00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:00,440
Speaker 1: care if you do, but tell me going to that ship.

913
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:02,160
Speaker 1: But if you don't know that's coming, as a man,

914
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:05,719
Speaker 1: you feel like it can't be little. You know. Gee,

915
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 1: I'm fucked up. I'm going through something. This is driving

916
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:09,719
Speaker 1: me crazy, all right, But nigga let it all out

917
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:11,200
Speaker 1: on me because I'm with you. Niggas you put me

918
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:13,200
Speaker 1: on my life change around, fucking with you. I was

919
00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:16,200
Speaker 1: getting meetings games to before grand funking with Damn and

920
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:19,000
Speaker 1: just twenty minutes I got four grand in my pocket,

921
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:21,240
Speaker 1: getting way too deep. Let's wait for that now, stop

922
00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:24,000
Speaker 1: not back what I'm saying. My point is, you asked

923
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:26,280
Speaker 1: me a question. That's a know youn getting me. No,

924
00:57:26,320 --> 00:57:27,920
Speaker 1: I don't care. I'll take all that ship. But my

925
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:30,680
Speaker 1: point was I don't smoke. My fucker's just trying. I

926
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 1: don't know. But the point I'm trying to make was

927
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:36,880
Speaker 1: that that was like crazy for me. They changed my

928
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:39,920
Speaker 1: life around, bummb I have two rapper friends in my life.

929
00:57:40,120 --> 00:57:42,280
Speaker 1: Was my friends? Norbody said, Gary, I don't give a

930
00:57:42,360 --> 00:57:44,479
Speaker 1: funk about rap when it comes to you, you're my friend,

931
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:47,640
Speaker 1: and Boomby said the same thing. Norby said, Gary, this

932
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 1: more than rocket Fuller, But you embarrassed me said that, No,

933
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 1: let me tell yourself. One day he killed me. One

934
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:57,920
Speaker 1: day that they came to my studio. He couldn't have

935
00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:05,000
Speaker 1: a call. I wasn't involved. Was you know the Yankees

936
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:08,080
Speaker 1: in the World Series. He was like, yeah, we'll be

937
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:16,840
Speaker 1: trying to perform, yo, you know right? Yeah, I didn't.

938
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:20,080
Speaker 1: Can make fun of me. Now what you're coming from?

939
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:23,160
Speaker 1: When I went from going to jail and come home

940
00:58:23,480 --> 00:58:26,680
Speaker 1: and see what we had, you understand my pain? No,

941
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:28,920
Speaker 1: it's beautiful. Those are my brothers. Now. It was a

942
00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:31,560
Speaker 1: beautiful sense of Floyd's and I got a big story. Now,

943
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:33,760
Speaker 1: don't say nothing. Now they ever say, yo, show you

944
00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:39,680
Speaker 1: would laxat me up. I would win the battles, but

945
00:58:40,200 --> 00:58:42,560
Speaker 1: with speed. That's when Nas came off getting over that.

946
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:44,960
Speaker 1: It was no, it was jokes, Nas j She was real.

947
00:58:45,360 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 1: We goes Jake goes Ja put up a million dollars

948
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:50,400
Speaker 1: and said, you put up a verse. I put a verse.

949
00:58:51,120 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 1: Whoever wind't getting million dollars? No, they can't afford it

950
00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:58,120
Speaker 1: with the speed. That night, Jake literally said, you're big face.

951
00:58:58,240 --> 00:59:00,160
Speaker 1: He did a show for free. I think remember us,

952
00:59:00,480 --> 00:59:02,840
Speaker 1: we don't. He didn't show for free. He did a

953
00:59:02,920 --> 00:59:04,720
Speaker 1: show for free. He's a big face and want you

954
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:07,000
Speaker 1: to come with me because what's all that? Everybody? Don't

955
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 1: let nobody take my hat. I heard you say this story. Yeah,

956
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:16,080
Speaker 1: all the time, every show we did, it didn't matter,

957
00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:17,840
Speaker 1: he said, only my hat. We did. The show in

958
00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:21,800
Speaker 1: Speed was for free. He said, your big face. He

959
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:25,120
Speaker 1: texted me we had two ways. I'm silver ships. You're

960
00:59:25,240 --> 00:59:28,200
Speaker 1: good for the game. The game, the game needs you.

961
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:32,040
Speaker 1: I'll never forget that text. Man. But they were taking

962
00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:35,480
Speaker 1: his hat. He made regular Ja's icon. Man, that's what

963
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:41,360
Speaker 1: it happens. Man, it's a superstar woman. My big is.

964
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:43,160
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is you said all that. It was

965
00:59:43,240 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 1: rocking full up. I go from making two fifty I

966
00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:48,520
Speaker 1: was in jail, came home from doing two hundred fifty

967
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:51,520
Speaker 1: hours a week to making thirty. Granted to hang out

968
00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 1: with them and joking, get snapped on, and we snapped

969
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:57,200
Speaker 1: back to make a seventy grand week. So if they

970
00:59:57,320 --> 00:59:59,440
Speaker 1: looking big, I get three grand. If they say hello

971
00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:02,920
Speaker 1: with Dame, I get five grand. Why would I love them? No?

972
01:00:03,120 --> 01:00:05,680
Speaker 1: I nobody never said I just knew that. You didn't

973
01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:12,080
Speaker 1: knew uh a life outside of it? That broke down,

974
01:00:12,280 --> 01:00:15,040
Speaker 1: slow down, some sad. Somehow I saw how how how

975
01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:17,880
Speaker 1: bad was it when when Rocket Feller closed, I walked

976
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:21,000
Speaker 1: in one day, people are Mike, I ain't even known name.

977
01:00:21,080 --> 01:00:27,000
Speaker 1: People crying. Then you're crying for dame. Dame said it's over.

978
01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:37,160
Speaker 1: Question what so you walking walking over a little bit.

979
01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:39,600
Speaker 1: You come in to work, regular work. I'm ready to work,

980
01:00:39,640 --> 01:00:43,920
Speaker 1: getting my money, do what I do. And then people crying.

981
01:00:44,440 --> 01:00:48,000
Speaker 1: You walk in and rest in peace, calling that Dame's

982
01:00:48,360 --> 01:00:52,320
Speaker 1: uncle he died, I said, call my ready crying the

983
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:56,240
Speaker 1: labels over, Gary, ain't nothing left? And what did you say?

984
01:00:57,480 --> 01:01:00,439
Speaker 1: I was, I was a joker for us, said I left.

985
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:03,320
Speaker 1: It's over, Gary. Do you don't know I'm going to

986
01:01:03,360 --> 01:01:06,760
Speaker 1: corput ship my niggas got hundreds of millions. I'm looking

987
01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:14,840
Speaker 1: for my fucking sevens. You're telling about d d MG

988
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:16,480
Speaker 1: that rocket full. Yeah, that's why I just said. I

989
01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:18,680
Speaker 1: just said that. Then I just said that was the last.

990
01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:21,480
Speaker 1: I just said, Dan that musical Bay said that. Yeah.

991
01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:23,960
Speaker 1: I remember walked in the office and I see I said,

992
01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:26,640
Speaker 1: damn Dash music Group. I said that Basie to hear me,

993
01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:28,480
Speaker 1: and I said, it's nothing here. And then I was like, wow,

994
01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:31,920
Speaker 1: people are crying, and I was mean. Dames started arguing,

995
01:01:32,560 --> 01:01:34,920
Speaker 1: didn't want to fight. I want to fight, and it

996
01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:37,240
Speaker 1: was so funny. Beans was there that day being sent

997
01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:39,240
Speaker 1: me the Philly for a week because I want to fight.

998
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:44,000
Speaker 1: I was so basically, but I also see I came

999
01:01:44,080 --> 01:01:47,360
Speaker 1: to your house. I came to Beanie seagull house, and

1000
01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:51,400
Speaker 1: he sick that alligate on you. It was I'm trying

1001
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:54,439
Speaker 1: to get the verse and nord says, even when Nordy says,

1002
01:01:54,440 --> 01:01:56,840
Speaker 1: you were doing fun Ja do the right look, you

1003
01:01:57,960 --> 01:02:00,960
Speaker 1: had me trying to get the bed segu for Bigamy

1004
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:03,919
Speaker 1: this nigga big Sam, we gotta go to this grid

1005
01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:08,240
Speaker 1: and something like Bigamy mess had he had a attack phase.

1006
01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:16,080
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, I don't need to I'm doing with

1007
01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:18,880
Speaker 1: the big Hammy mess arized, nunc Rosie, get it done.

1008
01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:21,960
Speaker 1: So I'm fighting fighting yo, this mom, Yo, this ship,

1009
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:31,920
Speaker 1: I still got the most ship. Start a little book yo, Yo,

1010
01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:39,680
Speaker 1: Universe tonight, I'm feel like you got something person. But

1011
01:02:39,840 --> 01:02:42,479
Speaker 1: that's but that's some I love rocket full. I would

1012
01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:45,240
Speaker 1: have anything for No. No, we're gonna we're gonna ending

1013
01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:48,280
Speaker 1: like that. I got you. I love that. I love that,

1014
01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:50,920
Speaker 1: I love that. I've never seen loyal to like, and

1015
01:02:51,000 --> 01:02:53,440
Speaker 1: I've never seen loyal to like big Nig. The thing

1016
01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:57,840
Speaker 1: about it was I never It's just this is crazy,

1017
01:02:57,960 --> 01:03:00,040
Speaker 1: like when we when Shini read let's big Up. I

1018
01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:02,200
Speaker 1: even read big Up with Ma Duke to big up

1019
01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:05,160
Speaker 1: a vote TV. They hit me and it was like, yo,

1020
01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:08,120
Speaker 1: you know what I think, Biggs want to do it tonight.

1021
01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:10,640
Speaker 1: And I'm like, all right, cool. And the reason why

1022
01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:14,200
Speaker 1: I hit you as well, and D from Rough Riders

1023
01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:24,400
Speaker 1: is because building Phil Champboo as well. But at the

1024
01:03:24,520 --> 01:03:28,080
Speaker 1: end of the day, when I look at Big Face Gary,

1025
01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:31,360
Speaker 1: I look at D from Rough Riders, and I look

1026
01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:35,600
Speaker 1: at motherfucking Biggs, I look at them probably the most

1027
01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:41,560
Speaker 1: loyal people in the industry really, And when I when

1028
01:03:41,600 --> 01:03:46,400
Speaker 1: I say that, I say that with the utmost sincerity

1029
01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:53,640
Speaker 1: because it was at one point where if I could

1030
01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:56,040
Speaker 1: have came to you and said this artist is doing

1031
01:03:56,120 --> 01:03:57,680
Speaker 1: such and such, D would have looked at me and

1032
01:03:57,760 --> 01:04:04,840
Speaker 1: so winning was the came of the bigs. The bigs

1033
01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:10,080
Speaker 1: would have been like, we're winning. I getn't even came

1034
01:04:10,120 --> 01:04:13,000
Speaker 1: to you, this thing, couldn't. He couldn't see any His

1035
01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:16,880
Speaker 1: vision was rock are Let me let me say I'm

1036
01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:18,920
Speaker 1: working about him. I don't think he's gonna remember any

1037
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:21,440
Speaker 1: of the but you know, I did the streets for

1038
01:04:21,600 --> 01:04:26,040
Speaker 1: all y'all in Miami, death jail. I did Rockefeller. Actually

1039
01:04:26,080 --> 01:04:27,760
Speaker 1: I got a little confused when we had Jim Jones

1040
01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:30,480
Speaker 1: on the pod and I said your name and I

1041
01:04:30,560 --> 01:04:32,160
Speaker 1: said aunt live and I got a little confused. But

1042
01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:34,880
Speaker 1: I remember now now you're talking right now. I remember

1043
01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:39,040
Speaker 1: the conference calls when you would jump on and it

1044
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:42,080
Speaker 1: was just pure passion, like he was just so into

1045
01:04:42,240 --> 01:04:43,840
Speaker 1: what he was talking about, and it was it's just

1046
01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:45,720
Speaker 1: I'm hearing it all over again right now, and it's

1047
01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:48,400
Speaker 1: just the passion was there. It's always been there. Man.

1048
01:04:48,440 --> 01:04:51,160
Speaker 1: You got understand man, when you come, I'm not coming

1049
01:04:51,160 --> 01:04:52,840
Speaker 1: to us. Had a good parents, I did well for

1050
01:04:52,960 --> 01:05:02,360
Speaker 1: myself and from Haiti dB teeth. What I'm saying is

1051
01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:04,880
Speaker 1: this that I'm coming from the streets. I did some

1052
01:05:05,000 --> 01:05:07,880
Speaker 1: time in jail. I came home. Yeah, say that again,

1053
01:05:08,120 --> 01:05:15,720
Speaker 1: my fresh one twice, big talking. What you got that

1054
01:05:22,920 --> 01:05:25,080
Speaker 1: the top of anywhere? That what I'm saying is that

1055
01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:27,920
Speaker 1: Rocket Fudd was kind of crazy. Like I said, all

1056
01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:31,240
Speaker 1: I knew, I'm gonna I'm gonna interject for you one second.

1057
01:05:32,080 --> 01:05:34,280
Speaker 1: I don't want to say one thing. I was in

1058
01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:37,520
Speaker 1: this game. I was getting money, but I did not

1059
01:05:37,720 --> 01:05:42,040
Speaker 1: know how to have fun. Meaning I knew how to

1060
01:05:42,080 --> 01:05:44,840
Speaker 1: get the money. I knew how to spend it. I

1061
01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:48,680
Speaker 1: just didn't know how to have fun. And it was Big.

1062
01:05:50,360 --> 01:05:56,880
Speaker 1: I gottaver lack. Let me feel out. I'm big. Look

1063
01:05:56,960 --> 01:06:01,240
Speaker 1: at me and be like, this is real ship. This

1064
01:06:01,320 --> 01:06:03,160
Speaker 1: is real ship. I'm not even trying to be funny.

1065
01:06:04,040 --> 01:06:07,000
Speaker 1: Big just look at me and be like yeah, because

1066
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:09,080
Speaker 1: he knew we was having funk if he was drinking,

1067
01:06:09,880 --> 01:06:12,760
Speaker 1: but I didn't know how to display it, like I

1068
01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:14,760
Speaker 1: didn't know how to be like like to show the

1069
01:06:14,840 --> 01:06:16,640
Speaker 1: world like if it was Instagram back then, I would

1070
01:06:16,640 --> 01:06:19,600
Speaker 1: have been finished because my grand would have been trashed.

1071
01:06:21,120 --> 01:06:24,360
Speaker 1: And this is real ship. I gotta give it to

1072
01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:27,520
Speaker 1: Biggs ending like I gotta be. And they, honestly, they

1073
01:06:27,600 --> 01:06:30,080
Speaker 1: came to me and was like, yo, nigga, you're making money.

1074
01:06:30,240 --> 01:06:38,720
Speaker 1: Have fun, and they would have first thank you. Okay,

1075
01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:44,760
Speaker 1: that's okay, but y'all was the first two people that

1076
01:06:45,040 --> 01:06:47,960
Speaker 1: like you came to me and and and enforced that

1077
01:06:48,080 --> 01:06:52,080
Speaker 1: to me. I was like, yo, nigga, you're getting money,

1078
01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:57,000
Speaker 1: Smile and have fun. And do what you gotta do

1079
01:06:57,880 --> 01:07:00,439
Speaker 1: so and I wouldn't really your artists and that time,

1080
01:07:00,560 --> 01:07:03,080
Speaker 1: this is like I was in all your movies. What

1081
01:07:03,400 --> 01:07:06,720
Speaker 1: made y'all you said at that time? I'm never signed

1082
01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:17,360
Speaker 1: a deal. We canna what I'm saying this big y'all

1083
01:07:17,400 --> 01:07:21,080
Speaker 1: would tell other artists from other places how to move

1084
01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:24,640
Speaker 1: and how to do that. There was there wasn't other

1085
01:07:24,720 --> 01:07:27,200
Speaker 1: than indeed, there wasn't no other people that was doing that.

1086
01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:31,640
Speaker 1: Why why why did you even insinuate that? I mean,

1087
01:07:31,720 --> 01:07:33,640
Speaker 1: that's just how he was. You know, we didn't hate

1088
01:07:33,640 --> 01:07:36,560
Speaker 1: on nobody movement and whatever we did, we tried to

1089
01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:38,400
Speaker 1: bust down the door to make sure that somebody else

1090
01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:40,560
Speaker 1: be able to walk through. So you know what I

1091
01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:43,760
Speaker 1: mean when we're flying around, we showed, right, I showed

1092
01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:45,880
Speaker 1: everybody around the world under what you were saying. You

1093
01:07:45,920 --> 01:07:48,000
Speaker 1: couldn't go to London or southing right, No, I couldn't

1094
01:07:48,000 --> 01:07:49,680
Speaker 1: go to London. You'a got me a pass. I don't know.

1095
01:07:53,240 --> 01:07:58,160
Speaker 1: You've got a lot of ship. We'll have a little

1096
01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:01,000
Speaker 1: good tell us who was so terrible? We ate chicken?

1097
01:08:01,040 --> 01:08:04,360
Speaker 1: Remember there was no more chicken the hotel. We yea

1098
01:08:05,320 --> 01:08:08,760
Speaker 1: saying the story way too horrid. You know what I'm doing,

1099
01:08:09,160 --> 01:08:11,600
Speaker 1: say the story. Say the story. When I don't care

1100
01:08:11,680 --> 01:08:13,200
Speaker 1: you want to say it, I'm gonna say how to

1101
01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:16,639
Speaker 1: say I'm being Gary, Okay, I know within the food

1102
01:08:16,760 --> 01:08:20,000
Speaker 1: hard London was horrible and we ate chicken every day.

1103
01:08:20,360 --> 01:08:22,360
Speaker 1: And we were starring one day and we said where

1104
01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:24,800
Speaker 1: once the chicken that said, there's no more chicken, but

1105
01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:30,360
Speaker 1: everything out that's doing chicken to the hotel. Not tell

1106
01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:35,040
Speaker 1: your songs races. This is not how it happened. I

1107
01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:40,960
Speaker 1: remember a great member. Anyway, we kept going to Damon,

1108
01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:46,320
Speaker 1: Big Scrift. We kept going there getting drunk with London,

1109
01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:48,600
Speaker 1: and then we kept going back to the hotel. And

1110
01:08:48,680 --> 01:08:50,320
Speaker 1: every time we go back to the hotel was me

1111
01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:55,280
Speaker 1: you beans Freeway Midfleet and we ate out all the

1112
01:08:55,479 --> 01:08:58,920
Speaker 1: chicken in the hotel. That's what happened. I just missed apartment,

1113
01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:02,280
Speaker 1: got theren like my shoes, what are you all slip? Yeah,

1114
01:09:03,760 --> 01:09:07,720
Speaker 1: the whole concert full, but we were dropped. I wasn't

1115
01:09:07,720 --> 01:09:10,200
Speaker 1: never stopping on that had a swimming pull in their

1116
01:09:10,240 --> 01:09:15,280
Speaker 1: room had a swimming and that's so ridiculous, ridiculous us

1117
01:09:17,880 --> 01:09:22,920
Speaker 1: any co London things like oh they had had they

1118
01:09:22,960 --> 01:09:29,160
Speaker 1: had they had a swimmer. Yeah, this is crazy. I've

1119
01:09:29,200 --> 01:09:31,920
Speaker 1: never seen that black frack. We gotta now they play

1120
01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:37,080
Speaker 1: there's no are you serious about the instructor my name?

1121
01:09:37,080 --> 01:09:38,720
Speaker 1: And they had a think of that you jump in

1122
01:09:38,920 --> 01:09:42,160
Speaker 1: this way. I was like, they had a cheff to say,

1123
01:09:42,200 --> 01:09:48,719
Speaker 1: you eat this way. This is that's the booge noticed

1124
01:09:48,920 --> 01:09:50,920
Speaker 1: that you ain't no budget. That was the rich side.

1125
01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:52,640
Speaker 1: Then me, you got back to the got to what

1126
01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:56,200
Speaker 1: we know, but we was getting we had. We appreciated

1127
01:09:56,960 --> 01:09:59,960
Speaker 1: big time. We appreciate it. We appreciated. When they came

1128
01:10:00,160 --> 01:10:03,880
Speaker 1: out with pastries. I didn't even know what pastries. I

1129
01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:06,559
Speaker 1: was like, the chef came out this and it's pastries.

1130
01:10:10,680 --> 01:10:15,280
Speaker 1: My mother was all right, listen, I listen to this.

1131
01:10:15,439 --> 01:10:16,880
Speaker 1: Let's get to it because I know big want to

1132
01:10:16,920 --> 01:10:22,639
Speaker 1: get to it right. This is what happened. Rocket Fella

1133
01:10:22,840 --> 01:10:28,240
Speaker 1: and Do Entertainment had a drink drink off. What it was.

1134
01:10:29,120 --> 01:10:30,760
Speaker 1: I don't know how this happened. I felt like it

1135
01:10:30,840 --> 01:10:35,000
Speaker 1: was together, but they wanted to separate niggas from from

1136
01:10:35,040 --> 01:10:38,040
Speaker 1: immediately once it came to drink. Got to break down

1137
01:10:38,080 --> 01:10:42,759
Speaker 1: this drink off in the crib. Now, Lazie, I cannot

1138
01:10:42,800 --> 01:10:47,720
Speaker 1: shoot on leaz Leazie drank every bottle, but now it's

1139
01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:52,440
Speaker 1: no more Vodkas, no more Armadale. Now remember Armadale is gasoline,

1140
01:10:53,320 --> 01:11:00,600
Speaker 1: big time. Let's go. It's Armadale. You can light that.

1141
01:11:00,680 --> 01:11:03,600
Speaker 1: Shut up and you can fill your gas take off

1142
01:11:03,720 --> 01:11:07,160
Speaker 1: with This is the original armadal not the ship. You

1143
01:11:07,200 --> 01:11:11,080
Speaker 1: know he got going over. It's not a good but

1144
01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:17,439
Speaker 1: so we were battling. There's no more over there and

1145
01:11:17,640 --> 01:11:19,720
Speaker 1: my nigga down. Lazie just fall to sleep. But what's

1146
01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:24,200
Speaker 1: the battle? How's it? How's the battle? Anything on the table?

1147
01:11:24,360 --> 01:11:27,320
Speaker 1: If you shake shot big, we could go, go, go go.

1148
01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:35,240
Speaker 1: There's multiple bottles, like different liquors. I'll take bags, so

1149
01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:37,960
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I don't say, do we

1150
01:11:38,120 --> 01:11:41,800
Speaker 1: ballot niggaspend on bas moms up with bat. I don't

1151
01:11:41,840 --> 01:11:44,320
Speaker 1: want to say that ship, but we battle. I'm hanging

1152
01:11:44,360 --> 01:11:46,200
Speaker 1: in there, you know, I have the man up. Yeah,

1153
01:11:46,320 --> 01:11:48,040
Speaker 1: let me tell you something to me and Dame. This

1154
01:11:48,479 --> 01:11:52,559
Speaker 1: bit me and Dame is big. It's him and Leazie.

1155
01:11:52,600 --> 01:11:57,120
Speaker 1: Now Lazie is sitting there. He's good. But then it's

1156
01:11:57,160 --> 01:12:01,280
Speaker 1: the last shot. Leazie say it's no more and he's like,

1157
01:12:01,400 --> 01:12:11,360
Speaker 1: just no more vodka leaze what is says you're right?

1158
01:12:11,560 --> 01:12:20,240
Speaker 1: Then after Walker said, say, let's say you're lazy, I

1159
01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:28,439
Speaker 1: smiling and that ain't He'll be like, yo, it's not

1160
01:12:28,640 --> 01:12:31,120
Speaker 1: no little hour that basketball. I was like, who in that?

1161
01:12:31,240 --> 01:12:34,160
Speaker 1: Ha'm moving? And then I was like, yo, you're sure.

1162
01:12:34,240 --> 01:12:40,960
Speaker 1: Your man is like I'm like I look, I'm like

1163
01:12:41,080 --> 01:12:45,160
Speaker 1: I know I'm not. And then Lazie over the other

1164
01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:50,920
Speaker 1: he just he looked at me and like one of

1165
01:12:51,000 --> 01:12:56,280
Speaker 1: the he gave me that you gotta relax, big up

1166
01:12:56,320 --> 01:13:01,040
Speaker 1: down least we love you, motherfighth I drink, I'll drink

1167
01:13:01,080 --> 01:13:06,200
Speaker 1: biggs Man with dive Ball big week. But now, Rough Riders,

1168
01:13:07,200 --> 01:13:12,760
Speaker 1: um Rockefeller, you guys knew each other coming up. Could

1169
01:13:12,800 --> 01:13:18,400
Speaker 1: they ever implicate error like you guys had Rough Riders,

1170
01:13:19,840 --> 01:13:30,040
Speaker 1: Rocket Feller, even Murder, okay, Randy Aca. Could there ever

1171
01:13:30,160 --> 01:13:32,519
Speaker 1: be another error like that? I don't know. It's gonna

1172
01:13:32,520 --> 01:13:36,200
Speaker 1: be tough because a lot of everybody's independent. Now. It's

1173
01:13:36,240 --> 01:13:38,559
Speaker 1: not like somebody trying to build labels. It's like artists

1174
01:13:38,600 --> 01:13:41,000
Speaker 1: is trying to do their own thing themselves, you know

1175
01:13:41,000 --> 01:13:43,880
Speaker 1: what I mean. But with that, I mean everybody. You

1176
01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:46,880
Speaker 1: got three crews strong, all selling three, four or five

1177
01:13:46,920 --> 01:13:51,240
Speaker 1: million records every single time they come out. That I

1178
01:13:51,280 --> 01:13:54,200
Speaker 1: mean that it's hard to replicate that. You don't even

1179
01:13:54,439 --> 01:13:57,960
Speaker 1: you don't sell those amount of records anymore. He said

1180
01:13:58,000 --> 01:14:01,040
Speaker 1: that too. What guy he said was lee All played

1181
01:14:01,200 --> 01:14:05,759
Speaker 1: rough Riders, Rockefeller and Murdered Inc against each other because

1182
01:14:06,280 --> 01:14:09,920
Speaker 1: every three months it would be an album that would drop.

1183
01:14:10,320 --> 01:14:13,080
Speaker 1: So le All would give love to Rockefeller when Rockefeller

1184
01:14:13,160 --> 01:14:15,960
Speaker 1: dropped the album, we didn't. I didn't really nobody really

1185
01:14:16,000 --> 01:14:18,519
Speaker 1: care who Leo gave. I mean, it was it's still

1186
01:14:18,600 --> 01:14:22,160
Speaker 1: a competition, whether it's in house or not. If DMX

1187
01:14:22,200 --> 01:14:24,040
Speaker 1: come out, he's selling four million records, we want to

1188
01:14:24,080 --> 01:14:25,800
Speaker 1: come out and sell four or five million records. If

1189
01:14:25,880 --> 01:14:27,960
Speaker 1: John come out and selling three million. And mean, it

1190
01:14:28,040 --> 01:14:31,559
Speaker 1: ain't even just with them anybody, but it just so happened.

1191
01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:33,600
Speaker 1: We know each other, so it's like damn, you know

1192
01:14:33,640 --> 01:14:36,960
Speaker 1: what I mean, like you know, and in the access

1193
01:14:37,000 --> 01:14:39,560
Speaker 1: and you know, with that relationship, that's how Swiss. You know,

1194
01:14:40,120 --> 01:14:42,640
Speaker 1: we got introduced the Swiss from from them to you know,

1195
01:14:43,080 --> 01:14:44,880
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna bringing them in office that day. That

1196
01:14:45,000 --> 01:14:46,880
Speaker 1: was I think that was the first Beati producer actually

1197
01:14:46,920 --> 01:15:02,920
Speaker 1: with money cash Holesney TV before that because no, because

1198
01:15:03,280 --> 01:15:04,920
Speaker 1: me and Dan went to go hear that because Swiss

1199
01:15:05,000 --> 01:15:09,920
Speaker 1: had to hook for it to me and Dane. Just

1200
01:15:10,080 --> 01:15:12,120
Speaker 1: listening to it over and over and over, we called

1201
01:15:12,400 --> 01:15:16,960
Speaker 1: Jay like, yo, you gotta come do this ship. Yeah,

1202
01:15:19,600 --> 01:15:24,479
Speaker 1: let me tell you something. Okay, Swiss, stand understand how

1203
01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:29,240
Speaker 1: that happened, because Swiss is alright, alright, alright in my mind,

1204
01:15:29,479 --> 01:15:34,559
Speaker 1: like mind you this is from my world. I think

1205
01:15:35,120 --> 01:15:37,760
Speaker 1: I'm not sure it wasn't alive, wasn't involved. I think

1206
01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:41,960
Speaker 1: it's mart and Moore, we'll hit you. And then and

1207
01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:46,920
Speaker 1: said we got a guy named It wasn't Swiss at

1208
01:15:46,960 --> 01:15:51,640
Speaker 1: this time. It was just your nephew, his nephew. That's

1209
01:15:51,680 --> 01:15:55,040
Speaker 1: what we're saying. He's nephew. I'm like, all right, everybody

1210
01:15:55,040 --> 01:15:59,519
Speaker 1: like he's the guy to respect, Okay, I'm respecting, Like

1211
01:16:00,000 --> 01:16:03,160
Speaker 1: his nephew got beats and he came down and then

1212
01:16:03,320 --> 01:16:07,040
Speaker 1: we did band from TV. Right, so Ravitt was actually

1213
01:16:07,120 --> 01:16:11,840
Speaker 1: recorded before Stop Dropped, right, Stop Drop came out maybe

1214
01:16:11,920 --> 01:16:16,840
Speaker 1: the year it came up the same year, right. But

1215
01:16:17,000 --> 01:16:21,880
Speaker 1: then Swiss, just how did you know because he was

1216
01:16:21,960 --> 01:16:25,200
Speaker 1: your nephew, how did you know this was the next guy?

1217
01:16:25,800 --> 01:16:28,120
Speaker 1: Because you had Dame Greece at the time. Correct, we

1218
01:16:28,200 --> 01:16:31,600
Speaker 1: had Greece, we had Pek, had a bunch of producers,

1219
01:16:31,680 --> 01:16:33,800
Speaker 1: but he was he was just the youngest. He was.

1220
01:16:33,920 --> 01:16:35,960
Speaker 1: He had learned from a lot of things from everybody

1221
01:16:36,439 --> 01:16:38,040
Speaker 1: and kind of put it together and came up with

1222
01:16:38,120 --> 01:16:40,639
Speaker 1: his own sound because it was at a point where

1223
01:16:41,360 --> 01:16:43,720
Speaker 1: he wasn't getting no beats and so we'd be like, yeah,

1224
01:16:43,760 --> 01:16:46,120
Speaker 1: that's gonna put that back over there, and so we

1225
01:16:46,479 --> 01:16:49,600
Speaker 1: keep on working. So with God was his determination. Like

1226
01:16:49,680 --> 01:16:52,519
Speaker 1: he used to live with me, So I'm going home.

1227
01:16:52,520 --> 01:16:53,960
Speaker 1: He'd be like, no, I'm gonna stay right here. I'm

1228
01:16:53,960 --> 01:16:55,479
Speaker 1: gonna just stay there. So he had to stay there

1229
01:16:55,520 --> 01:16:58,240
Speaker 1: all night and I'll come in. He got fifteen new

1230
01:16:58,320 --> 01:17:01,519
Speaker 1: beats every day for all the years straight, basically, and

1231
01:17:01,600 --> 01:17:03,840
Speaker 1: then then he figured it out. You had to figure

1232
01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:06,720
Speaker 1: it out and find this style. And when you brought

1233
01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:08,280
Speaker 1: him to us, he had like a hunt in something

1234
01:17:08,320 --> 01:17:10,680
Speaker 1: beats like that. Wasn't heard of a producer to have

1235
01:17:10,880 --> 01:17:16,519
Speaker 1: something like that at that time. Guess about bands from

1236
01:17:16,560 --> 01:17:19,920
Speaker 1: TV story because they're just here too. Because listen, listen,

1237
01:17:20,360 --> 01:17:21,720
Speaker 1: might as well get into I gotta take a piss

1238
01:17:21,760 --> 01:17:26,360
Speaker 1: for quick, So listen, I'm gonna be honest. Don't forget

1239
01:17:26,400 --> 01:17:29,479
Speaker 1: the talking band from TV. The first beat that wasn't

1240
01:17:29,479 --> 01:17:36,200
Speaker 1: the beat that was supposed to be let me take

1241
01:17:36,200 --> 01:17:40,680
Speaker 1: you on something this No one let me take Look.

1242
01:17:40,720 --> 01:17:42,479
Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to tell a story why he's right here.

1243
01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:48,680
Speaker 1: What happened was NAS was on the War Report out m.

1244
01:17:49,800 --> 01:17:52,800
Speaker 1: He was on the record called music Make These thus calm.

1245
01:17:53,400 --> 01:17:55,200
Speaker 1: Have you ever heard that record? That record is not

1246
01:17:55,280 --> 01:17:57,720
Speaker 1: a fishal. It's never been clear. It was supposed to

1247
01:17:57,760 --> 01:18:00,680
Speaker 1: be on the War Report album. What happened was us

1248
01:18:04,479 --> 01:18:10,280
Speaker 1: I don't know, but it never was clear. Colombia, Yeah,

1249
01:18:10,479 --> 01:18:12,120
Speaker 1: it never was clear. I don't want to get into

1250
01:18:12,200 --> 01:18:14,880
Speaker 1: particulars because I don't really remember what it was that

1251
01:18:15,360 --> 01:18:18,439
Speaker 1: for this moment. So Naas and Jungle, pick up Jungle

1252
01:18:18,479 --> 01:18:20,400
Speaker 1: and pick up Nas. They had called me and said, Yo,

1253
01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:23,240
Speaker 1: we want to pay you back for that. I was like,

1254
01:18:23,360 --> 01:18:25,200
Speaker 1: all right, bet. They said you were gonna, you know,

1255
01:18:25,720 --> 01:18:28,360
Speaker 1: do the Firm album. I had never heard of what

1256
01:18:28,560 --> 01:18:33,559
Speaker 1: the firm was. Nobody had never announced that. Foxy Ezy

1257
01:18:33,640 --> 01:18:35,280
Speaker 1: they they had never announced this. So when they said

1258
01:18:35,280 --> 01:18:38,040
Speaker 1: the Firm, I'm like up. I was like a bunch

1259
01:18:38,040 --> 01:18:42,439
Speaker 1: of lawyers is about to do album? And that's how

1260
01:18:42,479 --> 01:18:44,920
Speaker 1: I thought. When I heard of the firm, I'm like,

1261
01:18:44,960 --> 01:18:47,960
Speaker 1: all right, cool. They said, Yo, we're gonna come to Miami.

1262
01:18:48,040 --> 01:18:50,439
Speaker 1: I had never been to Miami this time, so I

1263
01:18:50,520 --> 01:18:54,680
Speaker 1: can't wait on the Miami. We'll God. So let me

1264
01:18:54,720 --> 01:18:58,280
Speaker 1: just make a longest story short. So I actually came

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01:18:59,600 --> 01:19:04,400
Speaker 1: and it was Nature's session when I landed for the

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01:19:04,479 --> 01:19:08,479
Speaker 1: firm out and I don't I forget for what reason

1267
01:19:08,640 --> 01:19:11,519
Speaker 1: Nature had landed later or something, I don't know. That's

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01:19:11,560 --> 01:19:13,479
Speaker 1: how I'm leaving came about it. In my opinion. You

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01:19:13,520 --> 01:19:15,880
Speaker 1: can you can, you can tell me know, so I can't.

1270
01:19:15,960 --> 01:19:19,160
Speaker 1: In fact, I'm sucking up. When I first landed it,

1271
01:19:19,479 --> 01:19:22,560
Speaker 1: Dre had played me the bloody money meat first, so

1272
01:19:22,680 --> 01:19:24,400
Speaker 1: I did that, and then you came in. This is

1273
01:19:24,479 --> 01:19:27,960
Speaker 1: your session, though, and then you came in and then

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01:19:28,320 --> 01:19:31,720
Speaker 1: I'm leaving me came on and I did my verse

1275
01:19:31,880 --> 01:19:35,439
Speaker 1: and you never you never said why he spitting that

1276
01:19:36,439 --> 01:19:39,120
Speaker 1: we he And that's the reason why I banned from TV.

1277
01:19:41,000 --> 01:19:44,920
Speaker 1: I was like this, Nick, I don't even you gotta

1278
01:19:44,960 --> 01:19:47,800
Speaker 1: speaking to Mike brother. It's a microphone over, yeah, speak

1279
01:19:47,840 --> 01:19:51,000
Speaker 1: over the f sre. But but we'll get you later.

1280
01:19:51,080 --> 01:19:57,200
Speaker 1: But so what I'm saying was before that we was

1281
01:19:57,280 --> 01:20:00,600
Speaker 1: doing band. So I did banned from TV because I

1282
01:20:00,640 --> 01:20:03,200
Speaker 1: wanted to pay Nature back for not being a hater,

1283
01:20:03,600 --> 01:20:07,320
Speaker 1: for just sitting back and just I know, nobody told

1284
01:20:07,400 --> 01:20:10,120
Speaker 1: him I was coming and I came in. I just

1285
01:20:10,360 --> 01:20:13,080
Speaker 1: worked and they just never just he cou could have

1286
01:20:13,160 --> 01:20:15,639
Speaker 1: been like, I'm firm, this NI is not firm. Give

1287
01:20:15,720 --> 01:20:17,960
Speaker 1: him the funk out of here. You never did they

1288
01:20:18,160 --> 01:20:21,400
Speaker 1: I respected to this day. I still love you. Have

1289
01:20:21,479 --> 01:20:23,320
Speaker 1: my real phone though, just in case you don't know,

1290
01:20:24,760 --> 01:20:30,920
Speaker 1: you gotta relax, So listen solo, let me remix it.

1291
01:20:30,960 --> 01:20:35,800
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. So there was an original beat, so I

1292
01:20:35,880 --> 01:20:39,280
Speaker 1: tried to get him and Swiss gave me the LSB

1293
01:20:45,120 --> 01:20:49,760
Speaker 1: and they just said, I don't like I gotta pay

1294
01:20:49,840 --> 01:20:53,559
Speaker 1: this guy back. He just let me live the firm out.

1295
01:20:54,479 --> 01:20:57,880
Speaker 1: But this is the LSB. I'm looking at this nigger

1296
01:20:57,920 --> 01:21:00,599
Speaker 1: like I want to choke you. He's like, I don't

1297
01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:03,400
Speaker 1: like that beat, and then then he plays another beat.

1298
01:21:03,439 --> 01:21:06,759
Speaker 1: Then he Swiss plays another beat, and then the Swiss

1299
01:21:06,760 --> 01:21:09,120
Speaker 1: plays and beat, and then this is the beat that

1300
01:21:09,160 --> 01:21:10,560
Speaker 1: where he's supposed to be. It's supposed to be just

1301
01:21:10,680 --> 01:21:13,880
Speaker 1: me and nature, and Nature takes two hours, He's like,

1302
01:21:16,120 --> 01:21:20,439
Speaker 1: he's writing this ship and then Swiss was Swiss looked

1303
01:21:20,479 --> 01:21:23,519
Speaker 1: at Nate. He said, you don't like this speak and

1304
01:21:23,600 --> 01:21:27,439
Speaker 1: then they goes and the Swiss players band from TV

1305
01:21:27,840 --> 01:21:34,560
Speaker 1: and they wrote his verse in twenty five seconds and

1306
01:21:34,720 --> 01:21:38,960
Speaker 1: my live late like and then this is the time

1307
01:21:39,000 --> 01:21:41,800
Speaker 1: where you don't tell a person you don't. You just

1308
01:21:41,880 --> 01:21:48,400
Speaker 1: be like, yo, it's cool, it's cool. Okay, now I'm sorry,

1309
01:21:48,439 --> 01:21:51,280
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I had I just follow. I don't know. Yeah,

1310
01:21:51,840 --> 01:21:53,720
Speaker 1: we getting back to brock Fell the rough Riders. Man,

1311
01:21:54,240 --> 01:22:00,400
Speaker 1: So your big face gay you enter the game. Mh

1312
01:22:02,680 --> 01:22:07,200
Speaker 1: your vision is only rocket f Yes? How did your

1313
01:22:07,320 --> 01:22:11,120
Speaker 1: vision develop like that? How did that? Even because I

1314
01:22:11,160 --> 01:22:13,200
Speaker 1: didn't even know names? Biggs? How the friend was? And

1315
01:22:15,240 --> 01:22:17,439
Speaker 1: I don't want to do no? I said the big friend,

1316
01:22:19,120 --> 01:22:22,040
Speaker 1: big name, biggest name, had a friends and all, and

1317
01:22:22,080 --> 01:22:25,120
Speaker 1: he Biggs is the boss. Biggs fired him and I

1318
01:22:25,240 --> 01:22:27,760
Speaker 1: made some moves based on the like I may stay

1319
01:22:27,840 --> 01:22:30,840
Speaker 1: properly my friends. They all liked me, and I just

1320
01:22:30,960 --> 01:22:33,559
Speaker 1: started working hard. I don't know how to mix recordsized

1321
01:22:33,640 --> 01:22:35,439
Speaker 1: to called bags based taught him everything I know. When

1322
01:22:35,479 --> 01:22:37,400
Speaker 1: it comes in, I said, called bagel, Bagel by said

1323
01:22:37,439 --> 01:22:39,800
Speaker 1: bags taught me a lot of ship and they said,

1324
01:22:40,040 --> 01:22:42,840
Speaker 1: and then we got I just kept working and I said,

1325
01:22:42,880 --> 01:22:45,400
Speaker 1: basically not big face is not mixed, right, bag you buggle.

1326
01:22:46,479 --> 01:22:49,000
Speaker 1: He was fair though you bucket. It's not right. It's

1327
01:22:49,000 --> 01:22:51,000
Speaker 1: that hell of the air. Then he taught me I

1328
01:22:51,080 --> 01:22:53,880
Speaker 1: got better and better, and bigg this is your niche

1329
01:22:54,240 --> 01:22:56,720
Speaker 1: they like you, so they probably your yo group. Do

1330
01:22:56,880 --> 01:22:59,000
Speaker 1: your thing. And then the Biggs left them to me.

1331
01:22:59,200 --> 01:23:01,280
Speaker 1: Biggs is to do the front. I do all the

1332
01:23:01,400 --> 01:23:06,479
Speaker 1: music studio. It's what do you like? I fixed? And

1333
01:23:06,560 --> 01:23:09,600
Speaker 1: then I was it now bis, Now what made you

1334
01:23:09,720 --> 01:23:14,320
Speaker 1: guys actually try to make people bosses their self because

1335
01:23:14,400 --> 01:23:17,679
Speaker 1: most regulator, especially right now, they get an artist, they're

1336
01:23:17,720 --> 01:23:20,120
Speaker 1: hot and they want a three sixty m. You guys

1337
01:23:20,200 --> 01:23:22,799
Speaker 1: are actually getting the artist, getting them hot and actually

1338
01:23:23,040 --> 01:23:25,840
Speaker 1: making them bosses. Goes back to what I was saying

1339
01:23:25,920 --> 01:23:28,439
Speaker 1: opening the doors. But at another thing is when we

1340
01:23:28,520 --> 01:23:30,120
Speaker 1: signed out there, we knew we were just gonna sell

1341
01:23:30,160 --> 01:23:32,840
Speaker 1: a company in a certain amount of time. So Rockefeller

1342
01:23:32,920 --> 01:23:37,479
Speaker 1: wasn't gonna last. Yeah, So you know, most people don't

1343
01:23:37,520 --> 01:23:39,160
Speaker 1: know when you get in the business, you you build

1344
01:23:39,200 --> 01:23:40,880
Speaker 1: and sell a company. That's where you make you know

1345
01:23:40,960 --> 01:23:43,720
Speaker 1: your money at the end of the day. So there's

1346
01:23:43,760 --> 01:23:46,000
Speaker 1: always a multiple, right, So whatever you're doing at the

1347
01:23:46,080 --> 01:23:48,680
Speaker 1: end of the year, whether it's a five x, three x,

1348
01:23:48,760 --> 01:23:53,280
Speaker 1: ten x whatever, each industry has a you know, uh,

1349
01:23:54,360 --> 01:23:57,200
Speaker 1: an industry standard. But we knew we was gonna sell

1350
01:23:57,240 --> 01:23:59,759
Speaker 1: a company, so it was about making everybody else bosses.

1351
01:23:59,840 --> 01:24:02,160
Speaker 1: So after he had gone, they can do their own thing.

1352
01:24:03,680 --> 01:24:09,000
Speaker 1: That's incredible now now now right. The thing about it

1353
01:24:09,280 --> 01:24:14,160
Speaker 1: was we're here that you guys had the lots. You

1354
01:24:14,240 --> 01:24:18,599
Speaker 1: guys had DMX, you guys had even an the same time.

1355
01:24:18,720 --> 01:24:23,760
Speaker 1: Eve came later. Correct, yeah, Eve came, But you guys

1356
01:24:23,920 --> 01:24:28,519
Speaker 1: the lots and DMX. What made what made y'all see

1357
01:24:30,160 --> 01:24:35,080
Speaker 1: that X will be the guy to go more multi? What? What? What?

1358
01:24:35,240 --> 01:24:37,240
Speaker 1: What gave you the insight for that? Oh? We gave

1359
01:24:37,280 --> 01:24:40,439
Speaker 1: you the insight for that. It was we already knew

1360
01:24:40,479 --> 01:24:42,679
Speaker 1: who was to pick up the litter at that point,

1361
01:24:42,880 --> 01:24:50,840
Speaker 1: to pick up the er, because we had him already

1362
01:24:50,920 --> 01:24:53,320
Speaker 1: years before they even got on, So we already knew

1363
01:24:53,600 --> 01:24:56,960
Speaker 1: who was who. It doesn't matter you had a good

1364
01:24:57,000 --> 01:24:58,800
Speaker 1: song or you have you thought you was next. I

1365
01:24:58,880 --> 01:25:01,760
Speaker 1: knew who he was. So it was pretty easy for

1366
01:25:01,840 --> 01:25:04,680
Speaker 1: us because we didn't. We never really got artists and

1367
01:25:04,760 --> 01:25:07,000
Speaker 1: didn't know who they were before we put them on,

1368
01:25:07,080 --> 01:25:08,880
Speaker 1: so we knew X was to pick. He was the

1369
01:25:08,960 --> 01:25:11,760
Speaker 1: main one, period point blank on enderstand, and all the

1370
01:25:11,880 --> 01:25:15,080
Speaker 1: artists knew that. Now now because now let let me

1371
01:25:15,120 --> 01:25:17,200
Speaker 1: stop you, Renny. I'm gonna get a vote leave Bowie

1372
01:25:17,280 --> 01:25:19,519
Speaker 1: because let me stop me there. Because the thing about

1373
01:25:19,560 --> 01:25:24,320
Speaker 1: it is the thing you understood. You understand the language

1374
01:25:26,400 --> 01:25:32,920
Speaker 1: coming out. So because because the thing about it X,

1375
01:25:33,520 --> 01:25:37,640
Speaker 1: it's just not like every encounter I ever have a

1376
01:25:37,760 --> 01:25:43,400
Speaker 1: DMX has never ever been industry. I could see this

1377
01:25:43,439 --> 01:25:46,720
Speaker 1: thing in fat Burger and then what's something you gotta

1378
01:25:46,760 --> 01:25:54,200
Speaker 1: stir it? Platinum? You ask me. I definitely got the

1379
01:25:54,240 --> 01:25:58,559
Speaker 1: cigarette for you, but like, so how could you see us?

1380
01:25:58,960 --> 01:26:01,760
Speaker 1: Like because we had got he here, right, and Herb

1381
01:26:01,840 --> 01:26:05,040
Speaker 1: said like, I'm sorry, I keep referring to Earth because

1382
01:26:05,080 --> 01:26:08,320
Speaker 1: it just refers to this interview so much, right, And

1383
01:26:09,560 --> 01:26:15,760
Speaker 1: he's saying that he's sorry through a lot jaw. He's

1384
01:26:15,800 --> 01:26:17,920
Speaker 1: saying that you don't know this is real ship right

1385
01:26:18,800 --> 01:26:25,920
Speaker 1: time he ever run for he had embraces or something.

1386
01:26:26,600 --> 01:26:29,280
Speaker 1: How the fun Like listen, mom, dude, I could look

1387
01:26:29,320 --> 01:26:31,599
Speaker 1: at certain people and say, yeah, yeah, I can see

1388
01:26:31,640 --> 01:26:33,960
Speaker 1: you get money. I can't see you and say you're

1389
01:26:33,960 --> 01:26:37,240
Speaker 1: a superstar. I don't have that ability. How the hell

1390
01:26:37,360 --> 01:26:40,200
Speaker 1: did you see that? I just knew he was talented,

1391
01:26:40,240 --> 01:26:42,320
Speaker 1: because you see, when you dealt with him for years

1392
01:26:42,400 --> 01:26:44,840
Speaker 1: before he got on, it was just a matter of

1393
01:26:45,000 --> 01:26:48,240
Speaker 1: time for everybody in the world understood. So we was

1394
01:26:48,320 --> 01:26:50,040
Speaker 1: all over the place. We was, you know, it was

1395
01:26:50,080 --> 01:26:53,200
Speaker 1: in the streets. So we hustled everywhere. We've been everywhere.

1396
01:26:53,320 --> 01:26:56,240
Speaker 1: We took him everywhere. Anywhere we had a battle. We

1397
01:26:56,320 --> 01:26:59,479
Speaker 1: probably never lost. Like he would battle and go, who

1398
01:26:59,520 --> 01:27:00,840
Speaker 1: want to bat? Don't want to be a bunch of

1399
01:27:00,880 --> 01:27:03,720
Speaker 1: people in room and you will go, I go, you go,

1400
01:27:03,880 --> 01:27:06,519
Speaker 1: I go. You know, he was just good at was crap.

1401
01:27:06,760 --> 01:27:09,639
Speaker 1: The next time the deal before the GM dealer dog

1402
01:27:09,800 --> 01:27:12,080
Speaker 1: like big beat or something. No, I think it was.

1403
01:27:13,320 --> 01:27:14,920
Speaker 1: I don't remember that deal, but it was. It was

1404
01:27:14,960 --> 01:27:16,560
Speaker 1: going to be a deal, but he didn't really get it.

1405
01:27:17,240 --> 01:27:18,920
Speaker 1: So you want to check the first time I met

1406
01:27:19,000 --> 01:27:26,120
Speaker 1: DMX's real ship, Battery studio, I'm olschool. I'm sorry, Battery students.

1407
01:27:26,240 --> 01:27:29,160
Speaker 1: I need you looking at it looks like this thing

1408
01:27:29,280 --> 01:27:33,839
Speaker 1: is I'm in Battery Students. A dog running in my session.

1409
01:27:34,000 --> 01:27:41,160
Speaker 1: Literally a dog jungle. LA's brother kicks the dog, and

1410
01:27:41,240 --> 01:27:44,080
Speaker 1: then twenty minutes later this Nidal Max woke to my ship.

1411
01:27:44,640 --> 01:27:49,600
Speaker 1: Don't like dogs, you said, what the funding dog told you.

1412
01:27:53,520 --> 01:27:57,559
Speaker 1: There's no way, it's only acuing it. The dog told

1413
01:27:57,640 --> 01:28:10,639
Speaker 1: you cool. Ever since that's the real ship, I swear

1414
01:28:10,680 --> 01:28:14,080
Speaker 1: to go making. I swear to gone. Listen man. But

1415
01:28:14,240 --> 01:28:15,800
Speaker 1: on that note to you, gotta shout out to Earth

1416
01:28:15,800 --> 01:28:18,880
Speaker 1: because he definitely got an eye for talent. And you

1417
01:28:18,960 --> 01:28:20,559
Speaker 1: know what, it ain't going back there. They know he produced.

1418
01:28:22,479 --> 01:28:26,840
Speaker 1: That's like ness be yo. Besides, when I'm Trump, I

1419
01:28:27,320 --> 01:28:29,400
Speaker 1: didn't know you. I don't know about that. I was

1420
01:28:29,479 --> 01:28:33,120
Speaker 1: damn the studio. I said that beat was ridiculous because

1421
01:28:33,320 --> 01:28:36,360
Speaker 1: it was our DJ prior to the Monster beat. Moms

1422
01:28:36,840 --> 01:28:39,280
Speaker 1: or didn't talk about this on the park and he

1423
01:28:39,439 --> 01:28:43,679
Speaker 1: was yeah, I said, hey, mocks djer got he said

1424
01:28:44,920 --> 01:28:51,719
Speaker 1: was necessarily hold hold every time week we should drink.

1425
01:28:51,800 --> 01:28:58,200
Speaker 1: I don't lie, nigga. We're like every something that made

1426
01:28:58,280 --> 01:29:01,040
Speaker 1: sure we would drink and go studio and not in

1427
01:29:01,080 --> 01:29:08,759
Speaker 1: my life baby. Basically at that time we would drink

1428
01:29:09,080 --> 01:29:11,040
Speaker 1: and go to students every night. Big, We've been a

1429
01:29:11,120 --> 01:29:13,920
Speaker 1: whole crew No one cared about nothing. It was snap

1430
01:29:14,360 --> 01:29:16,720
Speaker 1: and we have a ball and Jay were wrapped. That

1431
01:29:16,880 --> 01:29:19,840
Speaker 1: was it. That was all we did. How different was

1432
01:29:19,920 --> 01:29:23,000
Speaker 1: that for y'all because back then Hall and people stayed

1433
01:29:23,040 --> 01:29:24,920
Speaker 1: with Hall and people like I know I said that earlier,

1434
01:29:25,280 --> 01:29:30,120
Speaker 1: but to see him just like you know, how difficult

1435
01:29:30,200 --> 01:29:32,479
Speaker 1: was that to claim that? Because that was y'all crew.

1436
01:29:32,600 --> 01:29:34,280
Speaker 1: Now I know one thing. We snap a lot that

1437
01:29:35,080 --> 01:29:39,640
Speaker 1: is gonna snap like y'all snap. We used to go

1438
01:29:39,800 --> 01:29:45,519
Speaker 1: home basic nothing based to snap fucking athletes. I have

1439
01:29:45,640 --> 01:29:47,880
Speaker 1: my days, but based on loose too many battles, but

1440
01:29:48,600 --> 01:29:50,920
Speaker 1: I saw one he lost a couple and I loved it. Okay,

1441
01:29:55,640 --> 01:29:58,080
Speaker 1: got you bags, we drop other covins. I can see

1442
01:29:58,360 --> 01:30:01,439
Speaker 1: somebody and your brother rest of bings ball off got

1443
01:30:01,479 --> 01:30:04,160
Speaker 1: based a couple of times after that business that's not

1444
01:30:04,280 --> 01:30:08,519
Speaker 1: I'm lost anyway. So all little Biggs this song like

1445
01:30:08,600 --> 01:30:11,360
Speaker 1: the snap Biggs used to go to war. Biggs had

1446
01:30:11,439 --> 01:30:14,599
Speaker 1: up what day said Virginia seven hour drives? Snapped them

1447
01:30:16,080 --> 01:30:18,639
Speaker 1: seven hours straight. You know you can't escape. So I'm

1448
01:30:18,680 --> 01:30:21,759
Speaker 1: in the highway, mean I'm jumping out the car. You can't.

1449
01:30:23,880 --> 01:30:26,080
Speaker 1: They're one tope face business by one of two battles.

1450
01:30:26,080 --> 01:30:28,200
Speaker 1: But my point is Brooklyn is gonna snap. You know,

1451
01:30:28,600 --> 01:30:30,720
Speaker 1: first one get money. Don't know about closing boy, whether

1452
01:30:30,960 --> 01:30:39,880
Speaker 1: they're by gunch Snap, what up? Drink Champs Army e

1453
01:30:40,080 --> 01:30:42,960
Speaker 1: Fn here. I just want to remind y'all to pick

1454
01:30:43,040 --> 01:30:45,760
Speaker 1: up merch at drink Champs dot com or eight and

1455
01:30:45,840 --> 01:30:48,680
Speaker 1: nine dot com. Really appreciate your supporting us, whether you

1456
01:30:48,720 --> 01:30:51,280
Speaker 1: watch us some revote or listening listening to us on

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Speaker 1: Check us. But so we point out the j and

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Speaker 1: I got sitting in the podcast. You had the wrango

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Speaker 1: boots on a bunch of money, beautiful call killed that.

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Speaker 1: I'm not joking. I don't. I don't remember he had

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01:31:50,840 --> 01:31:53,519
Speaker 1: he had a bunch of money with night dolls. We

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01:31:53,680 --> 01:32:01,479
Speaker 1: snapped on them. Board the bottle to pay white towns

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01:32:02,120 --> 01:32:08,559
Speaker 1: paying bas TIMPs, you big things the rain. I had

1476
01:32:08,600 --> 01:32:12,040
Speaker 1: to add to buy four pair of Tempts because I

1477
01:32:12,120 --> 01:32:14,040
Speaker 1: looked at my closet and I said dead, asked me,

1478
01:32:14,280 --> 01:32:19,200
Speaker 1: that's not right. I had no temps ship the right

1479
01:32:19,240 --> 01:32:21,320
Speaker 1: way to legal way it's used to play dumb b

1480
01:32:21,520 --> 01:32:29,519
Speaker 1: I hate you for that, big basic don't matter, basic

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01:32:29,600 --> 01:32:32,680
Speaker 1: balls stuff BA. Let me let me change something for

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01:32:32,760 --> 01:32:37,360
Speaker 1: one second. So for one second, right, Um? To me,

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01:32:37,520 --> 01:32:41,040
Speaker 1: the best time in hip hop was when d from

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01:32:41,120 --> 01:32:46,000
Speaker 1: Rough Riders was in power. Why Rough Riders is in power? Uh?

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01:32:47,040 --> 01:32:55,680
Speaker 1: Bigs damn ar Gotti? Uh the black CEO, who of

1486
01:32:55,800 --> 01:32:57,560
Speaker 1: course I mean? But you know I'm just saying that

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01:32:57,640 --> 01:33:01,599
Speaker 1: I'm speaking Paul just CEOs no this. Do you think

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01:33:01,680 --> 01:33:06,960
Speaker 1: that time will ever come back? Tough to say, yeah,

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01:33:08,000 --> 01:33:11,160
Speaker 1: do you think that time it's necessary to come back? Um?

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01:33:11,720 --> 01:33:13,800
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's if it's necessary, because like

1491
01:33:13,960 --> 01:33:16,960
Speaker 1: everybody's taking their fate in their own hands. So everything

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01:33:17,040 --> 01:33:19,040
Speaker 1: that we was trying to teach artists back then to

1493
01:33:19,120 --> 01:33:21,280
Speaker 1: be their own boss, now you can actually do it.

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01:33:21,960 --> 01:33:24,040
Speaker 1: You know, you can record your album in the house

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01:33:24,120 --> 01:33:26,080
Speaker 1: and a crib, put it out on tune call whatever

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01:33:26,120 --> 01:33:29,240
Speaker 1: it is. You know, make your own money, build a

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01:33:29,280 --> 01:33:32,880
Speaker 1: following on social goal perform. You know, can't forget not

1498
01:33:33,000 --> 01:33:35,800
Speaker 1: to perform because everybody just think puts some out on

1499
01:33:35,880 --> 01:33:38,559
Speaker 1: YouTube or Instagram, and like they're not on the road.

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01:33:38,640 --> 01:33:40,439
Speaker 1: Get on the road, build up a following. But you

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01:33:40,479 --> 01:33:43,320
Speaker 1: could do it yourself now. So the blueprint has changed

1502
01:33:43,360 --> 01:33:46,240
Speaker 1: a little bit. Technology change the landscape, how about you.

1503
01:33:48,040 --> 01:33:51,480
Speaker 1: The game is a little different through because of the technology.

1504
01:33:51,640 --> 01:33:53,680
Speaker 1: And you know, everybody could do it theyselves. You know,

1505
01:33:53,760 --> 01:33:56,080
Speaker 1: you're training them and you're showing the blueprint. You know,

1506
01:33:56,120 --> 01:33:57,760
Speaker 1: you're showing how to do this to that, and then

1507
01:33:58,200 --> 01:33:59,680
Speaker 1: everybody be able to do it their own. Like the

1508
01:33:59,720 --> 01:34:03,040
Speaker 1: luck everybody being able to get deals, independent deals and

1509
01:34:03,120 --> 01:34:05,920
Speaker 1: move forward. So you told them everything, So it's not

1510
01:34:06,040 --> 01:34:07,720
Speaker 1: gonna never really be the same like we did it.

1511
01:34:08,280 --> 01:34:09,840
Speaker 1: We did it was a little different. They could do

1512
01:34:09,840 --> 01:34:12,000
Speaker 1: it themselves now, So what I am amost happy about

1513
01:34:12,040 --> 01:34:14,360
Speaker 1: us seeing that the artists are getting money outside of music,

1514
01:34:14,680 --> 01:34:16,519
Speaker 1: because that's what we always trying to teach them, Like

1515
01:34:16,640 --> 01:34:19,720
Speaker 1: it's other things outside and they don't don't have to

1516
01:34:19,760 --> 01:34:21,599
Speaker 1: be music. You use that as a platform to get

1517
01:34:21,640 --> 01:34:24,840
Speaker 1: into something else. Question, hold on before you do that.

1518
01:34:25,280 --> 01:34:31,120
Speaker 1: But now Rockefeller, right, they expanded out to clothing. Yeah,

1519
01:34:31,920 --> 01:34:35,320
Speaker 1: but when they got to clothing, you were it involved

1520
01:34:35,439 --> 01:34:38,120
Speaker 1: in the clothing. Why is that? Well? I was involved

1521
01:34:38,160 --> 01:34:40,040
Speaker 1: on a cross marketing of it. So that's why I

1522
01:34:40,080 --> 01:34:43,639
Speaker 1: went Dame, went over there to Rocket where I stood

1523
01:34:43,680 --> 01:34:46,280
Speaker 1: and I took over Rockefeller. So that's when I was

1524
01:34:46,360 --> 01:34:56,880
Speaker 1: doing trying to sign you. You never signed. I know,

1525
01:34:57,000 --> 01:35:00,080
Speaker 1: I did Kanye's album and Young Guns album, but so

1526
01:35:00,360 --> 01:35:01,960
Speaker 1: you know, while I while he was going down and

1527
01:35:02,000 --> 01:35:04,880
Speaker 1: everybody played their part. It was perfect because I was,

1528
01:35:05,160 --> 01:35:07,400
Speaker 1: you know, doing all across market and taking the artist

1529
01:35:07,479 --> 01:35:10,479
Speaker 1: to perform state property, taking everybody to London, do the

1530
01:35:10,560 --> 01:35:12,920
Speaker 1: Rocketway shows in Germany wherever we was going. So it

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01:35:13,000 --> 01:35:15,760
Speaker 1: was important to do it like that. Okay, nothing, d right.

1532
01:35:16,640 --> 01:35:20,479
Speaker 1: I want to ask you because you and Rocketfroller did

1533
01:35:20,560 --> 01:35:29,200
Speaker 1: the biggest tour together, correct and I felt like, in

1534
01:35:29,320 --> 01:35:32,160
Speaker 1: my opinion, I could be wrong, Like, actually, the biggest

1535
01:35:32,360 --> 01:35:36,400
Speaker 1: artist at that moment, you could have did a rough

1536
01:35:36,520 --> 01:35:39,360
Speaker 1: Rider talk by yourself. What made you choose to do

1537
01:35:40,800 --> 01:35:44,760
Speaker 1: a Rocket Feller rough Rider tour together? Because you would

1538
01:35:44,760 --> 01:35:46,639
Speaker 1: the head hounter. You could have said, fuck it, let's

1539
01:35:46,680 --> 01:35:50,720
Speaker 1: just do Drag on Eve and but you said you

1540
01:35:50,920 --> 01:35:54,519
Speaker 1: chose to do the Rocket Feller Tour. What the what

1541
01:35:54,680 --> 01:35:58,080
Speaker 1: made you make the decision? I'm thinking I think we was.

1542
01:35:58,600 --> 01:36:00,720
Speaker 1: I don't remember if it was. I think it was

1543
01:36:00,760 --> 01:36:03,200
Speaker 1: probably me and home because I was kind of more

1544
01:36:03,680 --> 01:36:06,599
Speaker 1: Me and him had a relationship. Then then we would

1545
01:36:06,640 --> 01:36:08,559
Speaker 1: be talking different things, and then we probably came up

1546
01:36:08,600 --> 01:36:11,560
Speaker 1: with the concept of doing it together. Plus you know,

1547
01:36:11,640 --> 01:36:13,479
Speaker 1: we're all coming from the same place, so it was like,

1548
01:36:13,520 --> 01:36:15,320
Speaker 1: you know, why, let's give it a shot, let's go.

1549
01:36:15,680 --> 01:36:17,560
Speaker 1: We all high anyway, so we was good. You know,

1550
01:36:17,920 --> 01:36:20,560
Speaker 1: he was big, what was big? X was big, So

1551
01:36:21,040 --> 01:36:23,639
Speaker 1: it just made sense at that time to do it together.

1552
01:36:23,760 --> 01:36:26,280
Speaker 1: You know, it would be bigger. So that's what we did.

1553
01:36:26,360 --> 01:36:29,360
Speaker 1: We just we just did it together. Make some noise

1554
01:36:29,400 --> 01:36:38,040
Speaker 1: for that. Me personally, I think like as a person

1555
01:36:38,160 --> 01:36:41,960
Speaker 1: that's been in the industry, as an artist, and when

1556
01:36:42,000 --> 01:36:43,880
Speaker 1: I bought sed Up, I just bossed up with with

1557
01:36:44,040 --> 01:36:48,040
Speaker 1: just us. I just feel like we need the black CEO.

1558
01:36:48,280 --> 01:36:50,760
Speaker 1: We need these guys. The one thing, the one thing

1559
01:36:50,800 --> 01:36:56,559
Speaker 1: about Bigs me working with him directly is I could

1560
01:36:56,560 --> 01:36:59,479
Speaker 1: say some bullshit in the in the circle and biggest

1561
01:36:59,479 --> 01:37:02,560
Speaker 1: to Black, He'll look and he'll like somewhat agree with

1562
01:37:02,680 --> 01:37:04,720
Speaker 1: me and then pull me to the side that you

1563
01:37:04,760 --> 01:37:11,960
Speaker 1: know you and we don't have that no more, like

1564
01:37:12,240 --> 01:37:14,920
Speaker 1: artists don't really have that. Like artists don't really have

1565
01:37:15,120 --> 01:37:17,080
Speaker 1: the you know, I'm gonna sunk with you by the

1566
01:37:17,120 --> 01:37:19,280
Speaker 1: see you like the people is around the other, the

1567
01:37:19,360 --> 01:37:22,160
Speaker 1: other people that's cutting the checks, and then as soon

1568
01:37:22,200 --> 01:37:27,800
Speaker 1: as it's going on, lookstood everything you you would talk

1569
01:37:27,960 --> 01:37:31,320
Speaker 1: it like. We don't have that no more. And that's

1570
01:37:31,360 --> 01:37:34,360
Speaker 1: the reason why so people can't complain about the lyrics

1571
01:37:34,720 --> 01:37:37,519
Speaker 1: or the music. They gotta complain about the people that's

1572
01:37:37,560 --> 01:37:42,040
Speaker 1: actually pushing it. I don't know if that makes sense.

1573
01:37:42,080 --> 01:37:45,240
Speaker 1: You don't understand what I'm trying to say. Can we

1574
01:37:45,439 --> 01:37:50,240
Speaker 1: ever get back to tow with you guys are running

1575
01:37:50,280 --> 01:37:52,720
Speaker 1: the old person that's like you guys, But let's say it. Maybe,

1576
01:37:53,120 --> 01:37:55,599
Speaker 1: I mean, it's obviously there's a lot of young artists right,

1577
01:37:55,680 --> 01:37:58,040
Speaker 1: like you know little kids today that's getting in the

1578
01:37:58,120 --> 01:38:00,360
Speaker 1: game that that may not know it, but do. There's

1579
01:38:00,360 --> 01:38:03,160
Speaker 1: a lot of season managers as well that can play

1580
01:38:03,240 --> 01:38:05,080
Speaker 1: that role, you know what I mean. So it doesn't

1581
01:38:05,080 --> 01:38:07,120
Speaker 1: always have to be the CEO. If you could surround

1582
01:38:07,120 --> 01:38:09,680
Speaker 1: yourself with a good team with people that season, you

1583
01:38:09,680 --> 01:38:12,320
Speaker 1: ain't gotta really depend on the label. That's what we

1584
01:38:12,400 --> 01:38:15,000
Speaker 1: used to tell everybody. Stop depending on the label. Even

1585
01:38:15,080 --> 01:38:17,360
Speaker 1: with us, right, we will go to to the artists

1586
01:38:17,360 --> 01:38:18,599
Speaker 1: and be like, what do you want to do? What's

1587
01:38:18,600 --> 01:38:20,320
Speaker 1: your market and playing? What are you songs? What do

1588
01:38:20,439 --> 01:38:21,960
Speaker 1: you like the single to be? You know what I'm saying.

1589
01:38:22,000 --> 01:38:25,120
Speaker 1: We were trying to always teach. So I mean, like Gino, right,

1590
01:38:25,200 --> 01:38:27,120
Speaker 1: like guys like that. You've got people, you know, all

1591
01:38:27,160 --> 01:38:30,479
Speaker 1: around people that manage to do stuff that helps the artists.

1592
01:38:30,479 --> 01:38:32,519
Speaker 1: I think that they could look for that ums for

1593
01:38:32,640 --> 01:38:36,200
Speaker 1: help as well. Maybe it morphs into into people taking

1594
01:38:36,280 --> 01:38:38,599
Speaker 1: over the reins of some of these technology companies as well,

1595
01:38:38,880 --> 01:38:42,840
Speaker 1: because that's what's kind of running people taking the reins

1596
01:38:42,880 --> 01:38:45,960
Speaker 1: of the technology companies, the tech companies that are actually

1597
01:38:46,400 --> 01:38:48,920
Speaker 1: really running the industry. So before I use the bathrooms,

1598
01:38:49,200 --> 01:38:52,200
Speaker 1: use the bathroom up. I'll be honest, I beholding it's

1599
01:38:52,240 --> 01:38:57,000
Speaker 1: the whole time. But listen, it's streaming helping or hurting

1600
01:38:58,000 --> 01:39:03,280
Speaker 1: the industry? It is, and question is it helping? Because

1601
01:39:03,840 --> 01:39:11,960
Speaker 1: right now, forget on spotting. I got like three hundred

1602
01:39:13,560 --> 01:39:18,839
Speaker 1: spins on like one ship right to three hundred friends.

1603
01:39:19,000 --> 01:39:21,600
Speaker 1: Back then I'll be two hundred thou away from me

1604
01:39:21,680 --> 01:39:26,160
Speaker 1: and go on a single. But then they calculated very different.

1605
01:39:26,200 --> 01:39:29,040
Speaker 1: They say three hundred thousand. Oh, they say every fift

1606
01:39:29,280 --> 01:39:36,639
Speaker 1: hundred spins streams streams equals one. So it's it's streaming

1607
01:39:36,720 --> 01:39:39,880
Speaker 1: helping or hurt in the industry. Truthfully, I don't know.

1608
01:39:39,920 --> 01:39:42,720
Speaker 1: I didn't really look at the business of streaming, um,

1609
01:39:43,160 --> 01:39:48,080
Speaker 1: so I really can't answer that. How about you, day Oh,

1610
01:39:49,560 --> 01:39:52,720
Speaker 1: it probably like me said, you know, we're don't really

1611
01:39:52,800 --> 01:39:56,679
Speaker 1: look into it. I'm old school. I don't pay attention

1612
01:39:56,760 --> 01:39:58,880
Speaker 1: to that as much. But it's probably definitely going to

1613
01:39:58,960 --> 01:40:03,160
Speaker 1: affect the whole business on top of everything. So it's

1614
01:40:03,200 --> 01:40:05,200
Speaker 1: never gonna be the same. Like if you keep saying that,

1615
01:40:05,280 --> 01:40:10,519
Speaker 1: it's probably never gonna be the same. There's too much technology. Okay,

1616
01:40:10,560 --> 01:40:12,800
Speaker 1: hold on, y'all, I'm taking you go. I'm going to

1617
01:40:15,400 --> 01:40:18,120
Speaker 1: your big right now. I'm going. I know you gotta

1618
01:40:18,200 --> 01:40:26,920
Speaker 1: cool it. I gotta got what's up. Ready you listen,

1619
01:40:27,720 --> 01:40:30,240
Speaker 1: we're back. I hadn't had to take a pigis this

1620
01:40:30,320 --> 01:40:34,080
Speaker 1: is how it's going down. But now, Biggs, I want

1621
01:40:34,120 --> 01:40:39,160
Speaker 1: to take it back to reasonable doubt class. That's my

1622
01:40:39,280 --> 01:40:44,439
Speaker 1: ship right there. I don't love you love folks, that's

1623
01:40:44,720 --> 01:40:48,120
Speaker 1: never nothing. I'll do the album ever, ever, every reason.

1624
01:40:48,520 --> 01:40:53,479
Speaker 1: When we were together as brothers, every day, every hangout,

1625
01:40:53,880 --> 01:40:57,759
Speaker 1: sucker comfort. But Cardy BIG's giving me a thousand jaws

1626
01:40:58,160 --> 01:41:00,320
Speaker 1: picking me up to make the twelve o'clock we drinking

1627
01:41:00,360 --> 01:41:04,519
Speaker 1: again and again to the next day. Don't do that

1628
01:41:04,600 --> 01:41:07,960
Speaker 1: to me, my crossing Chris down give me acause it

1629
01:41:08,080 --> 01:41:09,880
Speaker 1: was the biggest bom umber this big time because I

1630
01:41:09,960 --> 01:41:11,519
Speaker 1: was nothing. That's what they did on record and you

1631
01:41:11,560 --> 01:41:15,200
Speaker 1: said one, yeah, he said, I'm just gonna say like

1632
01:41:15,640 --> 01:41:18,120
Speaker 1: one was dead. No, not my doubt. I was like

1633
01:41:18,200 --> 01:41:21,400
Speaker 1: down a line of resum album. I do know I

1634
01:41:21,479 --> 01:41:23,160
Speaker 1: said that, but I was sending the wrong album. One

1635
01:41:23,280 --> 01:41:26,880
Speaker 1: was there, but that's my doubt. You gotta take my

1636
01:41:26,960 --> 01:41:30,439
Speaker 1: last I take I'm sorry. I got a hyper I

1637
01:41:30,520 --> 01:41:32,479
Speaker 1: love that album. I'm sorry, I'm slip. I love that.

1638
01:41:32,560 --> 01:41:38,800
Speaker 1: I definitely asked you get me all. I love. We

1639
01:41:38,880 --> 01:41:50,200
Speaker 1: keep drinking, okay, slop slop, listen some things. Yeah, you

1640
01:41:50,320 --> 01:41:55,040
Speaker 1: finally believe after he battles d M Man. Yeah, so

1641
01:41:55,160 --> 01:41:58,519
Speaker 1: in your opinion, he beat d M Max right, correct,

1642
01:41:59,760 --> 01:42:02,360
Speaker 1: And you guys go to record the album or was

1643
01:42:02,479 --> 01:42:07,240
Speaker 1: y'all already recorded an altu president? Now he wasn't recording album. Pricice,

1644
01:42:07,479 --> 01:42:13,280
Speaker 1: you go record the album? So what what makes you

1645
01:42:13,439 --> 01:42:17,400
Speaker 1: continue to believe? I started to hear other songs, so

1646
01:42:17,560 --> 01:42:22,960
Speaker 1: n South, Uh the song um that that never came out?

1647
01:42:23,120 --> 01:42:25,080
Speaker 1: That was I think that was a song that Clock did.

1648
01:42:25,800 --> 01:42:27,720
Speaker 1: It was like two or three other songs that I

1649
01:42:27,840 --> 01:42:30,240
Speaker 1: heard that I never heard before that that Clock had done.

1650
01:42:30,960 --> 01:42:33,920
Speaker 1: For Jay was talking more like how Jay talked as

1651
01:42:33,960 --> 01:42:37,479
Speaker 1: of recent. So that's what it made me to believe.

1652
01:42:37,560 --> 01:42:42,200
Speaker 1: I believe. Now, all right, let's get after in my lifetime. Alright,

1653
01:42:42,479 --> 01:42:45,800
Speaker 1: let's get to like when you were locked up? Right first,

1654
01:42:45,800 --> 01:42:47,240
Speaker 1: of a lot of people don't even know we were

1655
01:42:47,280 --> 01:42:50,560
Speaker 1: locked up or what happened. It was a conspiracy. So

1656
01:42:50,800 --> 01:42:55,000
Speaker 1: I introduced somebody to somebody and uh in l a

1657
01:42:55,120 --> 01:42:59,200
Speaker 1: from New York and they didn't. Even though they didn't

1658
01:42:59,200 --> 01:43:02,240
Speaker 1: do a deal, they wanted me to basically talk, so

1659
01:43:02,320 --> 01:43:06,440
Speaker 1: I chose not to. Haven't got time for it. Hit,

1660
01:43:06,920 --> 01:43:10,320
Speaker 1: of course I don't. I'm talking to you now, I'm talking. Now,

1661
01:43:10,360 --> 01:43:16,799
Speaker 1: I'm talking. Relax, Relax, relax and relax. I'm gonna let's

1662
01:43:16,800 --> 01:43:25,479
Speaker 1: make a noise him everybody. It's all right, Biggs. This

1663
01:43:25,600 --> 01:43:28,000
Speaker 1: is because because let me just let me just as

1664
01:43:28,040 --> 01:43:31,479
Speaker 1: an outside of looking at right when I heard when

1665
01:43:31,560 --> 01:43:35,320
Speaker 1: I heard Biggs had a charge, but I said, this

1666
01:43:35,400 --> 01:43:38,479
Speaker 1: is no way Biggs is something. But yeah, I was

1667
01:43:38,560 --> 01:43:42,559
Speaker 1: buying dispensaries in California. That made no sense of legal side.

1668
01:43:42,640 --> 01:43:45,200
Speaker 1: I was buying dispensaries in California. This is a little

1669
01:43:45,240 --> 01:43:48,120
Speaker 1: tell tell you. Let me tell you on that one.

1670
01:43:48,479 --> 01:43:51,400
Speaker 1: What wait what when? When? When you're ready, let me talk. Relax,

1671
01:43:51,760 --> 01:43:53,639
Speaker 1: let me take it for Biggs. But okay, you gotta relax,

1672
01:43:55,720 --> 01:43:58,440
Speaker 1: big say that against So you was what buying dispensaries?

1673
01:43:58,640 --> 01:44:03,000
Speaker 1: He was buying dispense to me California. Yeah, medical dispenses.

1674
01:44:03,080 --> 01:44:06,400
Speaker 1: So why so why when this story came out, these

1675
01:44:06,439 --> 01:44:09,720
Speaker 1: people actually thought that like you were selling we and

1676
01:44:09,840 --> 01:44:13,240
Speaker 1: to me, I know I knew, like I had a

1677
01:44:13,320 --> 01:44:22,000
Speaker 1: hundred arguments this thinking bigs ain't pounds, that's what that laughed.

1678
01:44:22,560 --> 01:44:25,439
Speaker 1: So they actually found a pound two pounds in my

1679
01:44:25,520 --> 01:44:28,240
Speaker 1: house and it was like we got it. So but

1680
01:44:28,400 --> 01:44:31,920
Speaker 1: you know how, what's the rumor to like wherever? They

1681
01:44:31,960 --> 01:44:33,840
Speaker 1: said you had to leak in your house or something

1682
01:44:33,920 --> 01:44:37,040
Speaker 1: like that. And then they guys at my penthouse that

1683
01:44:37,120 --> 01:44:43,760
Speaker 1: was years before. Oh okay, rocket in Jersey. I love

1684
01:44:43,880 --> 01:44:46,720
Speaker 1: that house. Look you don't got that, no more want

1685
01:44:46,720 --> 01:44:54,040
Speaker 1: to you still got you ever seen let's first you

1686
01:44:54,120 --> 01:44:57,200
Speaker 1: had the first year, had the first ball I ever

1687
01:44:57,320 --> 01:45:05,240
Speaker 1: seen you here this man, you have been there. Fuck

1688
01:45:05,320 --> 01:45:10,400
Speaker 1: you relax as you're talking about relax. I'm not the

1689
01:45:10,560 --> 01:45:13,639
Speaker 1: groopie that's not on bus my man. I know why.

1690
01:45:13,640 --> 01:45:39,240
Speaker 1: I because my friend. I know we lived at good time. Asshole. Yeah,

1691
01:45:39,280 --> 01:45:41,600
Speaker 1: big face was locked up. You want to say that

1692
01:45:41,720 --> 01:45:46,840
Speaker 1: one more time? So now, what's the best arra in

1693
01:45:46,920 --> 01:45:49,519
Speaker 1: hip hop? In your opinion? It doesn't have to be

1694
01:45:50,120 --> 01:45:53,280
Speaker 1: the arraw that you were in. This the best arra

1695
01:45:53,800 --> 01:46:00,639
Speaker 1: hip hop period that's tough, late eighties, probably early nine. Said,

1696
01:46:02,240 --> 01:46:06,840
Speaker 1: you're talking about criss Cross era. No Big Daddy, Kane, Arrow,

1697
01:46:07,520 --> 01:46:20,680
Speaker 1: kanem D, Kim D Douggy Fresh, after that, after that

1698
01:46:23,280 --> 01:46:25,439
Speaker 1: Jen and Juicon at the day, I'm going right into

1699
01:46:25,640 --> 01:46:34,080
Speaker 1: Era J nine was chr rass right, slick rag not nice? Yeah, yeah,

1700
01:46:34,760 --> 01:46:39,680
Speaker 1: coold you, that's that. What's what's your favorite? Era? D

1701
01:46:40,240 --> 01:46:42,040
Speaker 1: right around that area right then all the way up

1702
01:46:42,120 --> 01:46:47,519
Speaker 1: until it got to us. Yeah, my favorite as us

1703
01:46:48,800 --> 01:47:02,320
Speaker 1: sorry was a hard ye man, this is a great time.

1704
01:47:03,040 --> 01:47:06,240
Speaker 1: Chigi has a great time, right hand man Vegs here

1705
01:47:06,560 --> 01:47:10,320
Speaker 1: Slime bepposed to have beans and free rade to but

1706
01:47:10,360 --> 01:47:17,160
Speaker 1: then what was the inspirational Beans and Beans get to

1707
01:47:17,240 --> 01:47:19,760
Speaker 1: the mike means another level man, one of the best

1708
01:47:19,920 --> 01:47:23,400
Speaker 1: rappers I've seen them, but he had an alligant about you.

1709
01:47:25,920 --> 01:47:27,920
Speaker 1: But you know, Beans is Beans Beans, the street dude

1710
01:47:27,920 --> 01:47:31,160
Speaker 1: who did what he wanted to do, but lyrically a monster.

1711
01:47:31,400 --> 01:47:34,080
Speaker 1: I never seen nothing like it. Man. I and our

1712
01:47:34,120 --> 01:47:36,080
Speaker 1: Biggest Game but the opportunity and our Beans one of

1713
01:47:36,080 --> 01:47:38,679
Speaker 1: the biggest jail within the two three million at the beginning,

1714
01:47:39,360 --> 01:47:41,720
Speaker 1: the Biggest game and the whole album. But then of

1715
01:47:41,840 --> 01:47:43,880
Speaker 1: course at the end, I would left bigg. I would

1716
01:47:43,920 --> 01:47:46,240
Speaker 1: have to call bix is my boss. What you want?

1717
01:47:46,320 --> 01:47:49,360
Speaker 1: Bass taught me how to mix records, you know, things

1718
01:47:49,400 --> 01:47:53,160
Speaker 1: like that. But beans special a big means special rappers,

1719
01:47:53,280 --> 01:47:58,160
Speaker 1: especially special Monster. And you said he could have been

1720
01:47:58,479 --> 01:48:02,759
Speaker 1: just as big as Jake. You know he was very close.

1721
01:48:02,840 --> 01:48:04,880
Speaker 1: Just a lot of jail time. Look disrespect to him.

1722
01:48:05,120 --> 01:48:07,840
Speaker 1: Philly is a very bad It's a tough town. If

1723
01:48:07,880 --> 01:48:10,040
Speaker 1: you don't hold your own, dude get handed. So he

1724
01:48:10,120 --> 01:48:11,880
Speaker 1: does have to held held did what he had to do.

1725
01:48:12,280 --> 01:48:18,800
Speaker 1: But basyis that's especial, right, great talent. Like I said

1726
01:48:18,800 --> 01:48:20,920
Speaker 1: something to get Peter Crab one second biggest what this album?

1727
01:48:20,960 --> 01:48:24,400
Speaker 1: That's what Biggs did. Biggs was smart. He wouldn't hang

1728
01:48:24,520 --> 01:48:26,800
Speaker 1: with us bisical to do his work and come to

1729
01:48:26,880 --> 01:48:30,040
Speaker 1: the block his niggers and bring every out every we

1730
01:48:30,120 --> 01:48:32,760
Speaker 1: did what y'all think. He wouldn't say nothing if we

1731
01:48:32,880 --> 01:48:35,640
Speaker 1: like it. Basically, you gotta hit if not and in it.

1732
01:48:35,800 --> 01:48:38,240
Speaker 1: But Biggs, but the truth, Biggs, I said, what this

1733
01:48:38,280 --> 01:48:41,360
Speaker 1: stick to here? He said this nigga from Philly, don Mike.

1734
01:48:41,439 --> 01:48:43,960
Speaker 1: When I heard the truth, I try to light skinned

1735
01:48:44,000 --> 01:48:51,040
Speaker 1: man to use ruth fools about you. That was actually

1736
01:48:51,120 --> 01:48:54,639
Speaker 1: Kanye's first saying, yeah, we shout the Biggs and fund

1737
01:48:54,760 --> 01:49:01,280
Speaker 1: Kanye West till everybody take the truth. Was Kanye's first s. Yeah, wait, wait, wait,

1738
01:49:01,520 --> 01:49:05,280
Speaker 1: oh no, I'm gonna your show. I gotta do one thing. Babu,

1739
01:49:05,720 --> 01:49:07,920
Speaker 1: you gotta be too much at one time. I'm sorry.

1740
01:49:07,960 --> 01:49:16,680
Speaker 1: I hype up, but I'm something. I'm a calm down.

1741
01:49:17,400 --> 01:49:20,080
Speaker 1: He said, what you said it again? Which one? Now

1742
01:49:20,600 --> 01:49:26,760
Speaker 1: you said that you troof kind of producing but big

1743
01:49:26,800 --> 01:49:30,360
Speaker 1: but Beanie wrapped Biggs water to hunting for they say

1744
01:49:30,479 --> 01:49:32,240
Speaker 1: on the next one. His crew was at. It was

1745
01:49:32,280 --> 01:49:34,920
Speaker 1: all they drinking. BIG's a door record and make sure

1746
01:49:35,160 --> 01:49:37,840
Speaker 1: Big how a technique with us. He threw the record

1747
01:49:38,080 --> 01:49:40,120
Speaker 1: and come to the hood. We played off like it's

1748
01:49:40,160 --> 01:49:43,040
Speaker 1: nothing if we like it, bat it. Biggs paid the truth.

1749
01:49:43,520 --> 01:49:47,080
Speaker 1: I turned light skin you. No, I'm not. I'm my

1750
01:49:47,280 --> 01:49:52,880
Speaker 1: light still like it's this boat us like ules use

1751
01:49:52,960 --> 01:49:56,360
Speaker 1: fools like ules use tools. It was ridiculous, I said,

1752
01:49:56,400 --> 01:50:00,800
Speaker 1: big gotter. I said, really gotta and he just kept

1753
01:50:00,840 --> 01:50:02,439
Speaker 1: hitting those directords my bigges side of tall. You come

1754
01:50:02,439 --> 01:50:07,759
Speaker 1: to the hood with him, man, big, big time, big time. Okay,

1755
01:50:08,040 --> 01:50:11,080
Speaker 1: So now I gotta go there. Okay, but we want

1756
01:50:11,080 --> 01:50:12,880
Speaker 1: to go. You got to the top of the world.

1757
01:50:13,479 --> 01:50:20,560
Speaker 1: Give me some rose. They popping ship. I'm feel the

1758
01:50:20,600 --> 01:50:22,599
Speaker 1: good sim in my world. That time you got me here,

1759
01:50:22,840 --> 01:50:26,560
Speaker 1: you guys on top of the world. Right before we

1760
01:50:26,640 --> 01:50:28,479
Speaker 1: had we had all that talent from Philly. I don't

1761
01:50:28,479 --> 01:50:31,040
Speaker 1: know wherever you get he from. I started telling on

1762
01:50:31,080 --> 01:50:42,200
Speaker 1: these millions of going in there, but like and then

1763
01:50:43,160 --> 01:50:48,599
Speaker 1: you guys, well not you guys. Once this nis right,

1764
01:50:52,560 --> 01:51:01,439
Speaker 1: there's nothing my ship right? Old this nis okay, come on,

1765
01:51:04,800 --> 01:51:08,439
Speaker 1: so hold this nis right. We shot at ship booth.

1766
01:51:09,680 --> 01:51:12,040
Speaker 1: You can't have a shot of champagne. It's doesn't exist

1767
01:51:12,720 --> 01:51:20,760
Speaker 1: copy shampagne. Okay, I'm sorry, listen, so hold this, nis right.

1768
01:51:21,200 --> 01:51:24,479
Speaker 1: I love you man, my mother? What what? What? What?

1769
01:51:24,680 --> 01:51:27,800
Speaker 1: What made y'all say to yourself? Like, all right, cool,

1770
01:51:28,840 --> 01:51:31,040
Speaker 1: this is what whole want to do. We're backing them.

1771
01:51:31,439 --> 01:51:35,280
Speaker 1: Oh did you say this is not us? Like? What

1772
01:51:35,479 --> 01:51:38,800
Speaker 1: was your position? I want to take over? Now? I'm

1773
01:51:38,800 --> 01:51:40,479
Speaker 1: not sure. I think it was after I heard the

1774
01:51:40,560 --> 01:51:42,559
Speaker 1: take over. I don't even think Jay spent the rounds

1775
01:51:42,600 --> 01:51:45,040
Speaker 1: to us before, but he just didn't take on his

1776
01:51:45,120 --> 01:51:51,479
Speaker 1: own And then and then I heard it. Either it

1777
01:51:51,600 --> 01:51:55,400
Speaker 1: was rare, neither was ridiculous. It was rare. So how

1778
01:51:55,439 --> 01:51:59,160
Speaker 1: did y'all feel? Let's just be honest. I'm gonna I'm

1779
01:51:59,160 --> 01:52:00,880
Speaker 1: gonna scream through. But you know what my seats is,

1780
01:52:00,960 --> 01:52:03,640
Speaker 1: oh five, So I love you to death, find me,

1781
01:52:03,760 --> 01:52:07,000
Speaker 1: find me when lotus he's still my snuff. I'm just

1782
01:52:07,120 --> 01:52:09,240
Speaker 1: doing day al right, man, Jay, Look there's something I

1783
01:52:09,360 --> 01:52:17,600
Speaker 1: take that high back of the days. Basically we just

1784
01:52:17,640 --> 01:52:19,680
Speaker 1: sit on top of the couch. It's not like on

1785
01:52:19,800 --> 01:52:23,439
Speaker 1: top of this is on top. You know, I'm something slim,

1786
01:52:23,560 --> 01:52:25,160
Speaker 1: you know when you sit on seats, but on top

1787
01:52:25,200 --> 01:52:27,519
Speaker 1: of us. He's like like that not not there, like

1788
01:52:27,640 --> 01:52:30,880
Speaker 1: not where Randy's at on top. Yeah, so we're talking.

1789
01:52:31,320 --> 01:52:35,120
Speaker 1: That record came out Jayson mc killers nigger. I start laughing,

1790
01:52:35,200 --> 01:52:37,479
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, you don't killing the guy. Na

1791
01:52:37,680 --> 01:52:40,760
Speaker 1: I'm killers, he said, dick sucking lips. You know, men

1792
01:52:40,800 --> 01:52:43,639
Speaker 1: don't play that game. Jay hated that verse. He could

1793
01:52:43,640 --> 01:52:46,920
Speaker 1: take that verse. Pissed in the funk off man. I said,

1794
01:52:47,240 --> 01:52:48,720
Speaker 1: you beat no word about that ship. Come back you

1795
01:52:48,800 --> 01:52:50,719
Speaker 1: got you got it. So he's gonna put the record

1796
01:52:50,720 --> 01:52:52,240
Speaker 1: out with Ivers said all that ship. I don't care

1797
01:52:52,280 --> 01:52:54,679
Speaker 1: about that ship. It wasn't anything the impact we wanted.

1798
01:52:55,000 --> 01:52:56,680
Speaker 1: But when he came back that something he took a

1799
01:52:56,720 --> 01:53:00,400
Speaker 1: break h over. I got my mojo bad be o

1800
01:53:00,920 --> 01:53:04,320
Speaker 1: ad no No, that's just my Nigga's back. I'm a

1801
01:53:04,439 --> 01:53:07,040
Speaker 1: big time Jay fan. He struggled through that. My opinion,

1802
01:53:07,320 --> 01:53:09,320
Speaker 1: when he came back with that record, he's back. So

1803
01:53:09,360 --> 01:53:11,400
Speaker 1: when the ax nas, I got a million in your head,

1804
01:53:12,200 --> 01:53:14,759
Speaker 1: you say it first, I say it verse who wouldn't

1805
01:53:14,760 --> 01:53:17,000
Speaker 1: get a million? Na said? I still don't remember this.

1806
01:53:17,360 --> 01:53:20,200
Speaker 1: He where did this happen? That? It was on the Raguar? Now,

1807
01:53:20,200 --> 01:53:22,919
Speaker 1: I was on my point one. Am I making that up? Anybody?

1808
01:53:23,800 --> 01:53:26,000
Speaker 1: Thank you? I'm making I'm not making it st up

1809
01:53:26,040 --> 01:53:28,680
Speaker 1: More It was a nice point at more teamas he

1810
01:53:28,840 --> 01:53:31,280
Speaker 1: put a moon on his head. You say it first,

1811
01:53:31,680 --> 01:53:33,720
Speaker 1: I say first. Who ever? Once I got to get

1812
01:53:33,760 --> 01:53:35,920
Speaker 1: a million? He said, I can't afford it. Day J

1813
01:53:36,080 --> 01:53:41,880
Speaker 1: got deeper. Said no, definitely, he said, in a look

1814
01:53:41,920 --> 01:53:45,240
Speaker 1: at if I'm gonna say the happen, he said, anyone

1815
01:53:45,240 --> 01:53:46,960
Speaker 1: wasn't putting it up. It's not I'm not making as

1816
01:53:47,080 --> 01:53:50,040
Speaker 1: you don't do that now I know I'm not. I

1817
01:53:50,840 --> 01:53:54,760
Speaker 1: didn't say that. He said, you didn't say you don't

1818
01:53:54,760 --> 01:54:00,280
Speaker 1: want to look it up? Saying but he see, like,

1819
01:54:00,439 --> 01:54:06,000
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you your feelings, not a lot of money.

1820
01:54:06,080 --> 01:54:10,200
Speaker 1: Have your feelings. Everybody will have a mining off. Go

1821
01:54:10,320 --> 01:54:13,000
Speaker 1: on line to yourself. You say that, but oh, y'all

1822
01:54:13,120 --> 01:54:15,760
Speaker 1: not a reality. You're having to be in in cash

1823
01:54:15,880 --> 01:54:20,200
Speaker 1: if it's very serious, he said. He turned to the

1824
01:54:20,280 --> 01:54:23,280
Speaker 1: fod hold on not at a point one and she

1825
01:54:23,400 --> 01:54:25,960
Speaker 1: Mortina said it flesh and said it. I don't make

1826
01:54:26,000 --> 01:54:28,080
Speaker 1: a bliese. They he killed me him all. I don't

1827
01:54:28,120 --> 01:54:32,080
Speaker 1: get because I don't definitely Okay, well you have. I'm

1828
01:54:32,120 --> 01:54:34,800
Speaker 1: just telling you, even if he can't afford it, say that,

1829
01:54:34,880 --> 01:54:37,480
Speaker 1: I'm okay. Some you know what seves different words. Yeah,

1830
01:54:37,480 --> 01:54:39,520
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you if I wonder the words he was. Now,

1831
01:54:39,720 --> 01:54:42,320
Speaker 1: I'm a big fan. For the record, I said, destroy

1832
01:54:42,480 --> 01:54:44,920
Speaker 1: Jack behind now. I said the Jay was just better

1833
01:54:44,920 --> 01:54:47,720
Speaker 1: than Jay. But then when Jay became I manned up.

1834
01:54:47,960 --> 01:54:50,080
Speaker 1: So if I'm saying the wrong us, I apologized, but

1835
01:54:50,120 --> 01:54:52,640
Speaker 1: I remember it was something about the money wasn't right.

1836
01:54:53,160 --> 01:54:56,680
Speaker 1: All I'm saying is Jay came back that summer and

1837
01:54:56,800 --> 01:55:00,560
Speaker 1: hit that classic regort, h O V. I got my

1838
01:55:00,720 --> 01:55:05,440
Speaker 1: mojo back, baby over a no no, I said, he's back.

1839
01:55:05,960 --> 01:55:07,920
Speaker 1: I'm the latest Babe James. Friends, I don't like him

1840
01:55:08,040 --> 01:55:10,160
Speaker 1: for us. I loved Jack. I love him. I like

1841
01:55:10,280 --> 01:55:13,600
Speaker 1: my love everybody. I remember, I haven't respect him my

1842
01:55:13,640 --> 01:55:17,800
Speaker 1: first he's all right, like that skinny motherfucker started. Can

1843
01:55:17,920 --> 01:55:20,640
Speaker 1: I live where I'm from? This time is my risk?

1844
01:55:20,680 --> 01:55:23,360
Speaker 1: I got clock of life. You can't do shit about this.

1845
01:55:23,720 --> 01:55:32,920
Speaker 1: That was my man, my man. Nobody said no, no

1846
01:55:33,200 --> 01:55:37,080
Speaker 1: Jameson Jason Monson. I see Jake is a monster lyricist man.

1847
01:55:37,920 --> 01:55:41,080
Speaker 1: He got a little sense of that last off multiple

1848
01:55:41,440 --> 01:55:44,200
Speaker 1: know with his wife the lemon chipball, don't get cheeked

1849
01:55:44,240 --> 01:55:46,280
Speaker 1: and fall before. It's my favorite, James. I ain't like

1850
01:55:47,560 --> 01:55:52,480
Speaker 1: what I like the beam. I'm about the disadvantage scream

1851
01:55:54,440 --> 01:55:56,160
Speaker 1: you didn't like from my love that I was. I'm

1852
01:55:56,200 --> 01:55:58,120
Speaker 1: being my asshole because I just felt like it was

1853
01:55:58,120 --> 01:55:59,800
Speaker 1: bound out, was just white. I'm a sucker thinker for that.

1854
01:55:59,840 --> 01:56:01,640
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. I'm sorry. You got it. I'm got it.

1855
01:56:01,720 --> 01:56:04,320
Speaker 1: I'm a sucker. It's a great. I'm just being an asshole. Now.

1856
01:56:05,560 --> 01:56:09,000
Speaker 1: It's just I'm money, ain't you privately? My house is

1857
01:56:09,040 --> 01:56:11,760
Speaker 1: a need me a little morm. You know you gotta

1858
01:56:11,920 --> 01:56:13,680
Speaker 1: you gotta get some you gotta get more money. If

1859
01:56:13,720 --> 01:56:16,080
Speaker 1: you don't like fall for four, that mean you ain't.

1860
01:56:16,360 --> 01:56:17,640
Speaker 1: I ain't got the slim I got to know. You

1861
01:56:17,760 --> 01:56:19,400
Speaker 1: gotta get something then, But but I'm here. You don't

1862
01:56:19,440 --> 01:56:22,800
Speaker 1: like Fall full four you get you don't get it.

1863
01:56:25,120 --> 01:56:38,040
Speaker 1: It's gotta getting. Family is gonna pick the I'm not station.

1864
01:56:38,120 --> 01:56:43,480
Speaker 1: I'm not calling big if. I thank God, it's good good.

1865
01:56:43,960 --> 01:56:46,520
Speaker 1: I'm loving this man. I love all I'm but what's

1866
01:56:46,520 --> 01:56:50,600
Speaker 1: your favorite ever hip hop? I asked both of them. Damn,

1867
01:56:52,240 --> 01:56:54,920
Speaker 1: I'm stay property arrow, you're not. I'm gonna go the

1868
01:56:55,040 --> 01:56:57,640
Speaker 1: first time. I'm gonna do not rocket fall. You're gonna laugh.

1869
01:56:57,680 --> 01:56:59,880
Speaker 1: It's you, that's all I know. It's rocket fuller all

1870
01:57:00,120 --> 01:57:08,800
Speaker 1: for one new good. That's all that's small. I love him, Yeah, yeah,

1871
01:57:10,240 --> 01:57:15,400
Speaker 1: great minds and I c e that's my area. Then

1872
01:57:15,520 --> 01:57:17,680
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. Became a rocket fall for from

1873
01:57:17,720 --> 01:57:19,880
Speaker 1: the I don't love from the rocket fall. After that,

1874
01:57:21,000 --> 01:57:24,200
Speaker 1: after that, let me tell you something. Sometime Big Face

1875
01:57:24,240 --> 01:57:27,400
Speaker 1: Garrank in my studio. Let's just talking to him, like

1876
01:57:27,880 --> 01:57:35,080
Speaker 1: my cheeseburgers. He's like, yeah, beans love that too. You

1877
01:57:35,160 --> 01:57:40,320
Speaker 1: know what you hit me? You know I'm about some

1878
01:57:40,400 --> 01:57:46,760
Speaker 1: fresh rods like bleaking about that. Don't choke me and

1879
01:57:46,800 --> 01:57:49,000
Speaker 1: I'll take that. I'm gonna tell you right now, when

1880
01:57:49,040 --> 01:57:51,120
Speaker 1: you come home. I've been someone here that don't want me.

1881
01:57:51,200 --> 01:57:54,760
Speaker 1: S fresh it up. I called myself when you go

1882
01:57:55,000 --> 01:57:57,560
Speaker 1: through a lot, you've been around these guys every day

1883
01:57:58,320 --> 01:58:01,400
Speaker 1: and you're just you're making having fun, making good money.

1884
01:58:01,480 --> 01:58:03,640
Speaker 1: You're not listen to me. I set up a meeting

1885
01:58:03,680 --> 01:58:07,720
Speaker 1: with them. I made five grand. Yeah, and you let

1886
01:58:07,800 --> 01:58:10,520
Speaker 1: me just say day. I just had to tell them.

1887
01:58:10,520 --> 01:58:14,120
Speaker 1: I was like, you know, we scream on screak. Listen.

1888
01:58:14,280 --> 01:58:16,880
Speaker 1: It's biggeran rocket. He screak on me. There's a life

1889
01:58:18,320 --> 01:58:20,720
Speaker 1: like everything I was talking to him about. I'd be like, yo,

1890
01:58:20,840 --> 01:58:23,080
Speaker 1: you know, I see you see this chick. She got

1891
01:58:23,160 --> 01:58:25,360
Speaker 1: a bad bace front. He was like, yeah, you should

1892
01:58:25,400 --> 01:58:31,960
Speaker 1: the same. The sashion is. It's it's sad, but you're hey.

1893
01:58:32,120 --> 01:58:34,920
Speaker 1: I love them that much. They let they let me,

1894
01:58:35,160 --> 01:58:41,400
Speaker 1: let me diet a little bit, but it's my program. Basically,

1895
01:58:42,520 --> 01:58:48,280
Speaker 1: some great people bad. I got no problems. Bags had great,

1896
01:58:48,520 --> 01:58:52,840
Speaker 1: great time. I don't told y'all. Bags was driving big calls.

1897
01:58:53,320 --> 01:58:57,160
Speaker 1: I had Biggs call for nine weeks. Basically, I said

1898
01:58:57,480 --> 01:59:00,040
Speaker 1: I could call, Oh love my call, bigger guy. You

1899
01:59:00,040 --> 01:59:02,280
Speaker 1: didn't care about. It's a good dude man. That's a

1900
01:59:02,320 --> 01:59:05,360
Speaker 1: good dude man. Be my dough golfice bags were switch

1901
01:59:05,400 --> 01:59:08,800
Speaker 1: on the ball makers. You know everybody home nigger track.

1902
01:59:15,440 --> 01:59:17,240
Speaker 1: This is my man. But I said one thing though,

1903
01:59:18,040 --> 01:59:19,960
Speaker 1: when you got your teeth fixs, you look a lot better, though,

1904
01:59:30,000 --> 01:59:41,800
Speaker 1: Ye shout out to my man. Yank up the west side,

1905
01:59:41,880 --> 01:59:44,480
Speaker 1: Biggs honestly bigging my man. Biggs taught me a lot

1906
01:59:44,560 --> 01:59:46,640
Speaker 1: you're going to meet. This is a boss man. I

1907
01:59:46,760 --> 01:59:49,480
Speaker 1: gotta do the problem jay z Ball, Dame boss. I

1908
01:59:49,560 --> 01:59:52,160
Speaker 1: got friends, having Biggs of them. Bumba is one of

1909
01:59:52,240 --> 01:59:56,400
Speaker 1: my best friends. He calls me, um my man, my man.

1910
01:59:56,400 --> 01:59:58,840
Speaker 1: I'm Maori told me one day Gary, you're not my

1911
01:59:59,040 --> 02:00:00,400
Speaker 1: You're not a rapper to me and out of a

1912
02:00:00,480 --> 02:00:03,720
Speaker 1: and all, you're my friend. So I swear to God

1913
02:00:04,520 --> 02:00:08,480
Speaker 1: had some bad experiences. But me and no we real close.

1914
02:00:09,120 --> 02:00:12,960
Speaker 1: Me and um my man, my man, bumpies very close, y'all.

1915
02:00:13,160 --> 02:00:15,880
Speaker 1: One time I remember Sony Studio, we came to see

1916
02:00:15,960 --> 02:00:18,440
Speaker 1: you and you was with Pete Crack and that's when

1917
02:00:18,520 --> 02:00:22,440
Speaker 1: me Nori bumped into literally see a little Seeds that

1918
02:00:22,560 --> 02:00:25,120
Speaker 1: was working with Junior Mafia. Yes, little see. That's the

1919
02:00:25,200 --> 02:00:27,720
Speaker 1: first time he gets got cos the norm and it

1920
02:00:27,880 --> 02:00:30,160
Speaker 1: was ill right nor even when the studio with Pete

1921
02:00:30,240 --> 02:00:39,200
Speaker 1: Crack and you just you know rich. You know you

1922
02:00:39,280 --> 02:00:42,400
Speaker 1: got some Norrison assholes. You know you gotta get fat.

1923
02:00:42,520 --> 02:00:46,480
Speaker 1: All I'm saying is he shoked. We killed me a

1924
02:00:46,520 --> 02:00:49,240
Speaker 1: little bit, all rock Nor we got some new chips.

1925
02:00:55,120 --> 02:00:58,320
Speaker 1: We're just struggling in pop right now, just struggling at

1926
02:00:58,360 --> 02:01:01,560
Speaker 1: the door right now. And old different man Yang shot

1927
02:01:01,640 --> 02:01:04,640
Speaker 1: to my man Yang. The lottis uppold side. We don't

1928
02:01:04,680 --> 02:01:07,680
Speaker 1: have the fun Nor I'm loving. When I met you,

1929
02:01:08,200 --> 02:01:12,680
Speaker 1: your teeth was like a cat. Touch your like a cat?

1930
02:01:13,160 --> 02:01:21,160
Speaker 1: Now ships white your Why don't keep you a pretty one?

1931
02:01:25,400 --> 02:01:29,400
Speaker 1: You did? You did the rage side, the ring tone,

1932
02:01:30,160 --> 02:01:34,120
Speaker 1: the career was almost old stay treat chats wants you

1933
02:01:34,280 --> 02:01:52,320
Speaker 1: back there? He was sad. I got shot that side

1934
02:01:52,320 --> 02:01:56,200
Speaker 1: of the big face you miss. Yeah, I'm your side.

1935
02:01:56,720 --> 02:02:01,080
Speaker 1: I'm just showing love. I'm I'm yours like big yo.

1936
02:02:01,520 --> 02:02:03,520
Speaker 1: I never see what you'll seeing, but I do know

1937
02:02:03,680 --> 02:02:19,400
Speaker 1: one thing. We go tone, what's to fix everybody? We

1938
02:02:19,520 --> 02:02:26,320
Speaker 1: killed him? Killed him. Nobody came back in the audience

1939
02:02:26,400 --> 02:02:28,880
Speaker 1: that you killed him, You killed the game that she

1940
02:02:29,120 --> 02:02:31,520
Speaker 1: was so copy shot the video and then then you

1941
02:02:31,640 --> 02:02:33,760
Speaker 1: added on on the video moment when you get out

1942
02:02:34,760 --> 02:02:41,640
Speaker 1: when you get him no change, but I didn't when

1943
02:02:41,680 --> 02:02:47,080
Speaker 1: I didn't like you got so that happened. The round

1944
02:02:47,720 --> 02:02:49,920
Speaker 1: said what I did with this reggae THO tell him

1945
02:02:50,400 --> 02:02:53,840
Speaker 1: so slipping is big. So we shot the video in

1946
02:02:53,960 --> 02:02:58,080
Speaker 1: my hand and he split the video and then the

1947
02:02:58,200 --> 02:03:01,480
Speaker 1: shot touch you to added to the video. When they

1948
02:03:01,560 --> 02:03:07,720
Speaker 1: getting Norma the rocket fuller chang you did? And where

1949
02:03:07,840 --> 02:03:18,520
Speaker 1: is it? Chan happy? Where Chan? He never signed the deal?

1950
02:03:18,640 --> 02:03:20,920
Speaker 1: Can we talk about why you never signed the deal? Man?

1951
02:03:21,400 --> 02:03:25,840
Speaker 1: You got the check? Never signed? This did not signed?

1952
02:03:29,200 --> 02:03:35,320
Speaker 1: You say that was my first platinum change? I got

1953
02:03:35,400 --> 02:03:38,160
Speaker 1: their names right, I funked up. Shout out to Aragant

1954
02:03:38,200 --> 02:03:40,840
Speaker 1: Jeff Rosenthor. Man, they show was great. Man, that's the

1955
02:03:40,880 --> 02:03:42,920
Speaker 1: one you heard me that day when you call me,

1956
02:03:43,040 --> 02:03:46,000
Speaker 1: don't do that North with that dumb face. Man, you

1957
02:03:46,040 --> 02:03:48,120
Speaker 1: didn't show them slide that day and he loved it.

1958
02:03:48,200 --> 02:03:51,400
Speaker 1: Don't do that. They got you. They got I'm talking money.

1959
02:03:51,400 --> 02:03:55,640
Speaker 1: I told you the days dropped the good things. When

1960
02:03:55,640 --> 02:04:03,080
Speaker 1: that stunt that tell her it was so rich, doesn't doesn't? Where?

1961
02:04:04,840 --> 02:04:18,840
Speaker 1: Where's what did pop tell you the other day? Come here?

1962
02:04:24,920 --> 02:04:27,720
Speaker 1: I'm not talking about this ship. I'm talking about when

1963
02:04:27,720 --> 02:04:30,400
Speaker 1: we using his crib. Right, I gave him the man

1964
02:04:30,520 --> 02:04:34,120
Speaker 1: that idea. Me and Jim Jones, we gotta man, we

1965
02:04:34,200 --> 02:04:38,280
Speaker 1: gotta be in that idea. Right. So then when I next,

1966
02:04:38,720 --> 02:04:42,560
Speaker 1: I didn't say it was so. And then and then

1967
02:04:42,640 --> 02:04:44,720
Speaker 1: Pop said, you gotta come to the money couch, right.

1968
02:04:46,120 --> 02:04:49,920
Speaker 1: I never knew this a money couch. When I went,

1969
02:04:50,160 --> 02:04:52,960
Speaker 1: I sat down, I said, the money couch feels sucking awesome.

1970
02:04:54,120 --> 02:05:02,480
Speaker 1: And he said that's it. I forgot my boy money.

1971
02:05:03,240 --> 02:05:09,000
Speaker 1: You know, the money got going saying over here for

1972
02:05:09,080 --> 02:05:23,560
Speaker 1: something time the subject why are you sign about something?

1973
02:05:23,840 --> 02:05:27,240
Speaker 1: I said this it was like it was it was,

1974
02:05:27,400 --> 02:05:30,480
Speaker 1: it was. It was we were sitting on the money couch.

1975
02:05:30,760 --> 02:05:33,800
Speaker 1: That's what he said. It is. He says sometimes say

1976
02:05:33,880 --> 02:05:37,080
Speaker 1: I'm just so rich that it's just hard to That's

1977
02:05:37,120 --> 02:05:41,080
Speaker 1: what it is. It's hard to kill. This is the

1978
02:05:41,160 --> 02:05:46,200
Speaker 1: reason why I brought this. I want to make this clear.

1979
02:05:46,840 --> 02:05:50,200
Speaker 1: I want to make this clear. I wanted to sign

1980
02:05:50,680 --> 02:05:54,360
Speaker 1: the Rock. They were my niggas. They invited me to

1981
02:05:54,480 --> 02:05:58,480
Speaker 1: every movie they ever did. They invited me, so I

1982
02:05:58,680 --> 02:06:01,720
Speaker 1: felt there was something going on, and I was like, fucking.

1983
02:06:02,080 --> 02:06:06,480
Speaker 1: I fought with y'all, no problem, damon, Biggs. They never

1984
02:06:06,600 --> 02:06:08,960
Speaker 1: sent me a contract, not once. He said, I've never

1985
02:06:09,080 --> 02:06:13,160
Speaker 1: signed it. I've never got presented a contract, not one.

1986
02:06:13,240 --> 02:06:24,800
Speaker 1: I swear to god. I know you probably ready Randy

1987
02:06:24,880 --> 02:06:32,920
Speaker 1: wrote it, already wrote it. Listen, listen. I'm not even

1988
02:06:32,960 --> 02:06:38,360
Speaker 1: looking at Randy signal. Listen. It definitely gets sent to me. Like,

1989
02:06:38,560 --> 02:06:41,120
Speaker 1: but I was asking, y'all you send me the contract,

1990
02:06:41,560 --> 02:06:43,440
Speaker 1: was like, be good. That put the chain on me.

1991
02:06:44,400 --> 02:06:49,280
Speaker 1: I was like, good, that was it? And what's y'all?

1992
02:06:49,400 --> 02:06:54,360
Speaker 1: Let me hit that? But that error in hip hop

1993
02:06:54,680 --> 02:06:57,640
Speaker 1: could never be duplicated? In your opinion? Do you think

1994
02:06:58,000 --> 02:07:00,680
Speaker 1: that error hip hop could never be like you know

1995
02:07:01,000 --> 02:07:04,720
Speaker 1: d MX? Because again, I'm sorry to keep referring to IRV,

1996
02:07:04,800 --> 02:07:06,520
Speaker 1: but IRV is the person that we just had on

1997
02:07:06,680 --> 02:07:09,440
Speaker 1: here and he dropped balls. But what he was saying

1998
02:07:09,640 --> 02:07:14,360
Speaker 1: was every year it would be rocket Fella dropping the ball,

1999
02:07:14,840 --> 02:07:17,680
Speaker 1: did rough riders dropping the ball, and then murdered egg

2000
02:07:17,800 --> 02:07:22,080
Speaker 1: dropping the ball? We dropped every year. Do you think

2001
02:07:22,120 --> 02:07:28,200
Speaker 1: that can ever be duplicated? I don't care. They just

2002
02:07:28,280 --> 02:07:33,160
Speaker 1: can't even happen in today's You think that can't happen

2003
02:07:33,200 --> 02:07:36,720
Speaker 1: in this climate right now because the way things changed digitally,

2004
02:07:37,320 --> 02:07:38,880
Speaker 1: I know all this has the work ethic to do

2005
02:07:39,000 --> 02:07:41,080
Speaker 1: that every year, but it's just the game is different.

2006
02:07:41,560 --> 02:07:43,600
Speaker 1: You may think I'm crazy and people putting out the music.

2007
02:07:44,120 --> 02:07:46,160
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you think you have to work ethic.

2008
02:07:46,280 --> 02:07:49,160
Speaker 1: J has base Maker disagree it to me and pick

2009
02:07:49,240 --> 02:07:51,160
Speaker 1: up to him crazy. Drake has a work ethic man.

2010
02:07:51,560 --> 02:07:54,680
Speaker 1: He puts record out after record after record, but he

2011
02:07:54,800 --> 02:07:56,640
Speaker 1: just don't have the swag that people are looking for

2012
02:07:57,160 --> 02:08:00,760
Speaker 1: his work. After he went Timberlins with no drawing Drake,

2013
02:08:00,920 --> 02:08:04,640
Speaker 1: I said Drake in my friend. No one agreed. Drake

2014
02:08:04,720 --> 02:08:07,840
Speaker 1: put out record after record after record, but he would

2015
02:08:11,800 --> 02:08:16,720
Speaker 1: think they gotta work out it, So gotta work ethic.

2016
02:08:17,720 --> 02:08:22,960
Speaker 1: Y'all can say it's the boy rap the board with

2017
02:08:23,080 --> 02:08:26,920
Speaker 1: the boy wrapping board wraps the board. Okay that Biggs.

2018
02:08:27,120 --> 02:08:28,840
Speaker 1: Has there ever been an artist that came to you

2019
02:08:29,000 --> 02:08:31,480
Speaker 1: that you wanted to sign, you didn't sign, and you

2020
02:08:31,560 --> 02:08:35,280
Speaker 1: regret it that I wanted to Probably the uh the

2021
02:08:35,320 --> 02:08:40,640
Speaker 1: only one week didn't didn't go through the scar face Wow? Okay,

2022
02:08:40,680 --> 02:08:45,680
Speaker 1: everybody relaxed before the Death gamescribing everybody that it was

2023
02:08:46,040 --> 02:08:48,760
Speaker 1: whatever are you because it was supposed to be Rocket

2024
02:08:48,800 --> 02:08:51,720
Speaker 1: Phone Um the fixed album that was supposed to be

2025
02:08:51,760 --> 02:08:54,320
Speaker 1: on Death Jam No, No, that was on de that

2026
02:08:54,480 --> 02:08:56,280
Speaker 1: was on Death was before that. I mean we were

2027
02:08:56,280 --> 02:08:57,960
Speaker 1: talking to him because you know, we had a relationship.

2028
02:08:58,160 --> 02:09:02,080
Speaker 1: Scar faces on almost every we did All Beans album.

2029
02:09:02,720 --> 02:09:07,080
Speaker 1: So we're just talking about signing and then uh and

2030
02:09:07,360 --> 02:09:12,480
Speaker 1: probably Twister. We never actually signed, yeah, because you know

2031
02:09:12,560 --> 02:09:15,640
Speaker 1: Twister was like an honorary rocket feller too, but he

2032
02:09:15,960 --> 02:09:26,840
Speaker 1: actually didn't sign. He did, like you yeah, now that well,

2033
02:09:26,960 --> 02:09:30,040
Speaker 1: God bless my man. Trial brought me. He brought the album,

2034
02:09:31,160 --> 02:09:33,320
Speaker 1: but he was bringing me so much. I'm like, y'all

2035
02:09:33,480 --> 02:09:35,320
Speaker 1: taking the hip hop man, I can't listen to no

2036
02:09:35,440 --> 02:09:39,040
Speaker 1: more music and hip hop is your brother? Yeah, by

2037
02:09:39,080 --> 02:09:41,240
Speaker 1: the way, and he took it to uh, what's up

2038
02:09:41,240 --> 02:09:45,640
Speaker 1: a dude? I was managing Nellie um cool lovel and

2039
02:09:45,680 --> 02:09:47,680
Speaker 1: then they did it and that was that album. This

2040
02:09:47,760 --> 02:09:50,200
Speaker 1: is the second it's the same. This is the second

2041
02:09:50,400 --> 02:09:54,000
Speaker 1: episode that fucking Nellie and Cooler Love gets mentioned in

2042
02:09:54,320 --> 02:09:58,120
Speaker 1: your Motherfucker's Better Now, D Motherfucker's Better Come here now?

2043
02:09:58,240 --> 02:10:00,640
Speaker 1: D Had there ever been an artist I came across

2044
02:10:00,680 --> 02:10:03,520
Speaker 1: that table that you're fronted on and you regretted that.

2045
02:10:04,640 --> 02:10:08,320
Speaker 1: M M no, I'm not really at that point because

2046
02:10:08,320 --> 02:10:11,040
Speaker 1: I have more than enough artists. I gave artists away

2047
02:10:11,160 --> 02:10:14,600
Speaker 1: like I maze you have. I had made side the

2048
02:10:14,640 --> 02:10:16,280
Speaker 1: lock side of all of them. I was like I

2049
02:10:16,360 --> 02:10:17,880
Speaker 1: had to give some way to just to be able

2050
02:10:17,920 --> 02:10:20,400
Speaker 1: to get it done. So where you have passed? Yeah,

2051
02:10:20,560 --> 02:10:31,480
Speaker 1: missed Wenation. I think he probably went over there. Hold on,

2052
02:10:31,720 --> 02:10:36,400
Speaker 1: so you have Mace, Yeah, I mane from Holland, so

2053
02:10:36,480 --> 02:10:39,360
Speaker 1: you know anything from haller moving. Yeah, I'm pretty much

2054
02:10:39,400 --> 02:10:40,960
Speaker 1: gonna be able to give my hands on it because

2055
02:10:40,960 --> 02:10:42,280
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people in the Hall. So

2056
02:10:42,400 --> 02:10:44,320
Speaker 1: d we always thought you from the Bronx and you

2057
02:10:44,440 --> 02:10:48,120
Speaker 1: from the Bronx at Hall both. I'm from the Bronxon

2058
02:10:48,160 --> 02:10:50,440
Speaker 1: halland but you know I was born in the Bronx.

2059
02:10:50,960 --> 02:10:52,440
Speaker 1: But I've been in Hall ofm all my life. So

2060
02:10:52,600 --> 02:10:54,400
Speaker 1: the bridge, I can walk across the bridge. I'm good

2061
02:10:54,440 --> 02:10:56,440
Speaker 1: on the side. So we are all right. So it's

2062
02:10:56,480 --> 02:10:59,760
Speaker 1: all like this family, you know. So I've been home

2063
02:10:59,840 --> 02:11:01,960
Speaker 1: so much. You know, I'm a Hall of nigga because

2064
02:11:01,960 --> 02:11:03,800
Speaker 1: I just like all of nigga, but I'm a Bronx nigga.

2065
02:11:04,040 --> 02:11:09,000
Speaker 1: When I gotta get uply Bronx niggers. Mace was actually

2066
02:11:09,040 --> 02:11:15,520
Speaker 1: on that president, yeah, that president. Yeah, this is a history,

2067
02:11:17,640 --> 02:11:23,720
Speaker 1: j Z. What that sounds like without Ja? Yeah, so

2068
02:11:23,840 --> 02:11:25,400
Speaker 1: he had to be first and saying he had to be,

2069
02:11:25,520 --> 02:11:27,160
Speaker 1: but I didn't like the way he sounds, so we

2070
02:11:27,280 --> 02:11:29,320
Speaker 1: took him off and we gave it to Jay. So

2071
02:11:29,480 --> 02:11:32,960
Speaker 1: now so now okay, because that's when children in the car,

2072
02:11:33,040 --> 02:11:36,960
Speaker 1: remember we had Yeah, there was never a version with

2073
02:11:37,120 --> 02:11:41,240
Speaker 1: Mace and Jay. Okay, this is the only one that

2074
02:11:41,320 --> 02:11:44,680
Speaker 1: we had. You know, it was way back. Was niggas

2075
02:11:44,720 --> 02:11:46,960
Speaker 1: then started something that was just on the mixtape. That's all.

2076
02:11:47,000 --> 02:11:49,320
Speaker 1: I don't know right then at that point, niggas then

2077
02:11:49,400 --> 02:11:51,480
Speaker 1: started something. Mace all them was on there right there.

2078
02:11:53,320 --> 02:11:56,400
Speaker 1: That was that was the sumaking. That's it. Yeah, we

2079
02:11:56,480 --> 02:12:04,560
Speaker 1: did history. Just a big face g what's up? You know?

2080
02:12:04,720 --> 02:12:06,760
Speaker 1: We love you over here on this side. Want you

2081
02:12:06,760 --> 02:12:10,520
Speaker 1: to take a shot drinking. I didn't stop thinking it right,

2082
02:12:10,960 --> 02:12:14,280
Speaker 1: I gotta take a shot. I'm having a good years.

2083
02:12:14,360 --> 02:12:16,560
Speaker 1: I don't know what that podcast you went to before?

2084
02:12:17,120 --> 02:12:19,400
Speaker 1: You know, you got me talk about that later they

2085
02:12:19,560 --> 02:12:25,640
Speaker 1: got you My person, My person, I don't stop. I

2086
02:12:25,960 --> 02:12:28,280
Speaker 1: can do for eight years. I'm Gary. It's easy for me.

2087
02:12:29,080 --> 02:12:31,640
Speaker 1: Damn sure. You gotta do your own podcast. You know,

2088
02:12:31,760 --> 02:12:35,520
Speaker 1: I'm educated yeah, you get we got you, We got you,

2089
02:12:35,960 --> 02:12:38,120
Speaker 1: we got you, you got me. You want something? I

2090
02:12:38,200 --> 02:12:42,720
Speaker 1: forgot this call? Be on? What be on? Be on?

2091
02:12:42,880 --> 02:12:50,240
Speaker 1: You want to be on? Energy? Good vibes with you?

2092
02:12:51,080 --> 02:12:56,160
Speaker 1: So now big. At some point, you guys made Chris

2093
02:12:56,200 --> 02:13:01,160
Speaker 1: Style famous, right, hey, we're going back round there now, Crystal,

2094
02:13:01,520 --> 02:13:03,960
Speaker 1: I don't wanna talk about that ship was so expensive

2095
02:13:04,000 --> 02:13:06,680
Speaker 1: of the average person in the hood. You guys made

2096
02:13:06,720 --> 02:13:09,720
Speaker 1: it famous, and then at some point you guys hold

2097
02:13:09,760 --> 02:13:12,600
Speaker 1: away from it. I would like to describe, if you

2098
02:13:12,720 --> 02:13:16,480
Speaker 1: can describe the moment of making Cristal famous, in the

2099
02:13:16,560 --> 02:13:18,960
Speaker 1: moment of pulling away from it, I think we probably

2100
02:13:19,000 --> 02:13:25,800
Speaker 1: started drinking it something like that. Yeah, yeah, but it

2101
02:13:25,920 --> 02:13:29,440
Speaker 1: was actually at the Dead President's video. Actually were trying

2102
02:13:29,520 --> 02:13:32,120
Speaker 1: in ninety six, were trying to find a new champagne

2103
02:13:34,280 --> 02:13:38,560
Speaker 1: so Le Grand Dam and um, we'll start doing vv Yeah.

2104
02:13:38,640 --> 02:13:40,440
Speaker 1: So we we found that, but they didn't taste it

2105
02:13:40,480 --> 02:13:42,880
Speaker 1: as good, so we kept drinking it. But that was

2106
02:13:42,920 --> 02:13:47,600
Speaker 1: back in and the other scovering Crystal, yeah, three or

2107
02:13:47,640 --> 02:13:50,480
Speaker 1: four years prior. Okay, yeah, so at ninety six were

2108
02:13:50,520 --> 02:13:54,040
Speaker 1: already done with it. And so what happened the moment

2109
02:13:54,120 --> 02:13:56,560
Speaker 1: where you felt like when you guys felt like Christal

2110
02:13:56,760 --> 02:14:00,400
Speaker 1: was racist. That that was years years later. You know,

2111
02:14:00,680 --> 02:14:03,120
Speaker 1: that was trying. I mean we felt other companies was racist.

2112
02:14:03,120 --> 02:14:05,640
Speaker 1: That's how we got an Armadale because everything we was

2113
02:14:05,680 --> 02:14:07,560
Speaker 1: doing for Belvet there at the time, putting that in

2114
02:14:07,640 --> 02:14:10,840
Speaker 1: songs and making that popular, and then we reached out

2115
02:14:10,920 --> 02:14:13,080
Speaker 1: the Belvit there to get some cases for a video

2116
02:14:13,160 --> 02:14:16,400
Speaker 1: and they said no. So we did another song and

2117
02:14:16,440 --> 02:14:18,120
Speaker 1: then we tried to get a deal with them and

2118
02:14:18,160 --> 02:14:22,920
Speaker 1: then they said no. So that's why. Yeah, so that's

2119
02:14:22,960 --> 02:14:26,600
Speaker 1: when we did Armadale, and then for that same thing

2120
02:14:26,680 --> 02:14:29,720
Speaker 1: with the clothes with Iceberg, and that's why rocketwat started

2121
02:14:30,000 --> 02:14:34,880
Speaker 1: so okay, so because he said that very very fast. Okay,

2122
02:14:35,200 --> 02:14:38,120
Speaker 1: so you guys tried to get an Iceberg deal. Yeah,

2123
02:14:38,160 --> 02:14:40,560
Speaker 1: we try to first transfer with the hottest clothes line

2124
02:14:40,600 --> 02:14:43,960
Speaker 1: at the time. You see a lot of people don't

2125
02:14:44,000 --> 02:14:47,280
Speaker 1: know that we say Iceberg that people are thinking just whatever, right,

2126
02:14:47,760 --> 02:14:52,200
Speaker 1: but no, Iceberg was that way. Iceberg was. It was

2127
02:14:52,240 --> 02:14:59,040
Speaker 1: like damn near Gucci right around my way. No, it

2128
02:14:59,160 --> 02:15:11,560
Speaker 1: was played out hall talked speakers of the world. So

2129
02:15:13,040 --> 02:15:19,720
Speaker 1: so now so you go outs go to Iceberg, say,

2130
02:15:20,080 --> 02:15:22,080
Speaker 1: you say, we just want gear or you guys want

2131
02:15:22,080 --> 02:15:23,839
Speaker 1: out to get first and try to get some clothes.

2132
02:15:24,440 --> 02:15:28,880
Speaker 1: They said no, right, So after making it popular again,

2133
02:15:28,960 --> 02:15:30,320
Speaker 1: the same thing like we did with Belvett, and we

2134
02:15:30,400 --> 02:15:32,200
Speaker 1: reached out to try to get a deal and they

2135
02:15:32,200 --> 02:15:34,880
Speaker 1: didn't want to have nothing to do with it. So yeah,

2136
02:15:35,000 --> 02:15:38,720
Speaker 1: that's how rock That's how rockways started, that's how Armadale started.

2137
02:15:39,160 --> 02:15:41,520
Speaker 1: That's how the music business start. Every time somebody closed

2138
02:15:41,520 --> 02:15:54,840
Speaker 1: the door, your thing makes for that. Yeah, but no,

2139
02:15:55,160 --> 02:16:00,480
Speaker 1: you gotta sweet to the mic. They well, I just

2140
02:16:00,560 --> 02:16:03,760
Speaker 1: want to know the dream karean the Korean listen. But

2141
02:16:03,840 --> 02:16:08,480
Speaker 1: in hindsight, when when y'all became millionaires or whatever, and

2142
02:16:09,160 --> 02:16:16,200
Speaker 1: you mean from the music business for the music business, yeah,

2143
02:16:33,040 --> 02:16:35,600
Speaker 1: you'll gonna get mad at me. I swear I'm uch

2144
02:16:35,640 --> 02:16:38,040
Speaker 1: of dispect clapped you that he said before the music

2145
02:16:38,120 --> 02:16:47,880
Speaker 1: business don't getting money. I listen now what I'm but

2146
02:16:47,959 --> 02:16:50,920
Speaker 1: I'm saying in hindsight, like you know, when you start

2147
02:16:51,000 --> 02:16:53,120
Speaker 1: dealing with big company, because at first you said that

2148
02:16:53,200 --> 02:16:55,560
Speaker 1: y'all thought that a lot of people was all these

2149
02:16:55,600 --> 02:16:59,240
Speaker 1: companies was on racist and everything about or whatever they

2150
02:16:59,280 --> 02:17:03,080
Speaker 1: say that no reaction. So you said that whatever y'all

2151
02:17:03,120 --> 02:17:05,760
Speaker 1: didn't think that whatever reason, they y'alls reaching out with them,

2152
02:17:05,800 --> 02:17:08,480
Speaker 1: and they wasn't fucking with y'all. And do you think

2153
02:17:09,280 --> 02:17:11,800
Speaker 1: and beginning anything like they just shipping on yellow whatever

2154
02:17:11,879 --> 02:17:13,320
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, I think they ain't dealing with you.

2155
02:17:13,440 --> 02:17:16,680
Speaker 1: But when y'all become dealing with bigger companies and everything like,

2156
02:17:16,760 --> 02:17:20,000
Speaker 1: do you think that they were just missing formed? But

2157
02:17:20,160 --> 02:17:22,320
Speaker 1: why it wasn't doing it? And I can't say. I

2158
02:17:22,440 --> 02:17:24,360
Speaker 1: can't say why they didn't want to do it or not.

2159
02:17:24,680 --> 02:17:27,640
Speaker 1: But what it did is motivate us to go harder.

2160
02:17:28,400 --> 02:17:31,200
Speaker 1: You we just use it as motivation. So it was

2161
02:17:31,320 --> 02:17:33,760
Speaker 1: no racist going on. I don't know, you didn't care.

2162
02:17:33,840 --> 02:17:36,320
Speaker 1: It was like somebody said racist. This is why I

2163
02:17:36,400 --> 02:17:54,440
Speaker 1: really was saying that you can't toge, you know, perform music.

2164
02:17:55,840 --> 02:17:58,720
Speaker 1: Hold on one more thing, didn't I wanted to say

2165
02:17:58,760 --> 02:18:02,640
Speaker 1: something about for a minute that brother, it's hard to

2166
02:18:02,760 --> 02:18:05,600
Speaker 1: find a man that loyal these days. When I how

2167
02:18:05,640 --> 02:18:07,400
Speaker 1: I grew up, you grew up. We must you know,

2168
02:18:07,440 --> 02:18:10,480
Speaker 1: I'm forty four before the five, so you know what

2169
02:18:10,480 --> 02:18:13,879
Speaker 1: I mean. Like it sounds crazy sometimes when the man

2170
02:18:14,080 --> 02:18:17,440
Speaker 1: is that loyal, but that's it's hard to find a

2171
02:18:17,520 --> 02:18:22,080
Speaker 1: motherfucker like that. And I motherfucking'spect you. Okay, yeah, yeah,

2172
02:18:22,200 --> 02:18:24,600
Speaker 1: I don't scared, And let me tell you something Until

2173
02:18:24,680 --> 02:18:27,080
Speaker 1: I do, Man, let me tell you something. I used

2174
02:18:27,080 --> 02:18:30,200
Speaker 1: to hang out with you like that, and everything I

2175
02:18:30,440 --> 02:18:32,280
Speaker 1: spoke to this nigger, I'd be like, yeah, I'm about

2176
02:18:32,280 --> 02:18:34,480
Speaker 1: to get up get a hero like yo. You know

2177
02:18:34,879 --> 02:18:42,880
Speaker 1: you know we love heron no, no, you get a

2178
02:18:42,959 --> 02:18:54,560
Speaker 1: break just the course. I'm not a dick roller. I

2179
02:18:54,680 --> 02:19:01,680
Speaker 1: just love them. I love him, if you have that

2180
02:19:01,920 --> 02:19:04,880
Speaker 1: making my point. I just loved them because they put

2181
02:19:04,959 --> 02:19:07,800
Speaker 1: in a position that the normal person can't get into.

2182
02:19:08,080 --> 02:19:10,520
Speaker 1: If they didn't love me, like you know what I

2183
02:19:10,600 --> 02:19:13,880
Speaker 1: just saw to that mine I was making seven Yeah,

2184
02:19:14,480 --> 02:19:17,880
Speaker 1: and I didn't know ship right, Just loyalty, That's what

2185
02:19:18,000 --> 02:19:21,880
Speaker 1: he's talking about. I don't know somebody that telling about me.

2186
02:19:24,360 --> 02:19:27,720
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying is that I didn't love.

2187
02:19:27,879 --> 02:19:29,600
Speaker 1: That's all I knew. When the wreck with Dad does,

2188
02:19:30,160 --> 02:19:32,080
Speaker 1: that's what he's saying. He's saying you, you was loyal

2189
02:19:32,200 --> 02:19:37,080
Speaker 1: to one brand and nothing else. And when the first

2190
02:19:37,160 --> 02:19:46,640
Speaker 1: person loyalty is too much like that ship but something

2191
02:19:46,680 --> 02:19:49,440
Speaker 1: that comes to everything by myself, you did, I come

2192
02:19:49,480 --> 02:19:52,080
Speaker 1: to the studio every night by myself, it's the crazy

2193
02:19:53,240 --> 02:19:56,320
Speaker 1: somebody liked. I mean, you listen, let me let me

2194
02:19:56,400 --> 02:20:02,360
Speaker 1: let me look guys, listen, let me just tell you'll,

2195
02:20:02,440 --> 02:20:07,160
Speaker 1: let me just let me just reveal the secret. Young guys. Bleak.

2196
02:20:08,360 --> 02:20:11,120
Speaker 1: All these niggas will go make albums and we'll go

2197
02:20:11,360 --> 02:20:14,760
Speaker 1: presented to Rockefella and like, Nigga, you made that as

2198
02:20:14,800 --> 02:20:18,480
Speaker 1: Sun's suns cript. We're not. We're not paying you for that, right,

2199
02:20:18,800 --> 02:20:24,080
Speaker 1: and that was cool. So they somehow bleak put everybody

2200
02:20:24,200 --> 02:20:30,960
Speaker 1: on has Studio. So what we're gonna do is we're

2201
02:20:31,040 --> 02:20:34,840
Speaker 1: not gonna say it's Nory studio I had because remember

2202
02:20:34,920 --> 02:20:42,320
Speaker 1: my studios on Madison happened, So studio what's called? But

2203
02:20:42,520 --> 02:20:55,160
Speaker 1: the invoices are called Madison Incorporated. And and he would

2204
02:20:55,200 --> 02:20:58,600
Speaker 1: make me throw my way away. He hated Hayes. I

2205
02:20:58,640 --> 02:21:00,520
Speaker 1: don't throw my Hayes away. I'm like bags, I have

2206
02:21:00,640 --> 02:21:02,480
Speaker 1: to throw it away. He's like, you want some of

2207
02:21:02,560 --> 02:21:09,040
Speaker 1: this Raona, But this is all the ree froll the

2208
02:21:09,120 --> 02:21:12,480
Speaker 1: artists to do, all the brother artists like yo, if

2209
02:21:12,520 --> 02:21:15,680
Speaker 1: I go do my album on my own jay and

2210
02:21:15,800 --> 02:21:19,720
Speaker 1: them niggers is never gonna because they know that this

2211
02:21:19,840 --> 02:21:24,480
Speaker 1: is But if it wis hood Madison. So I used

2212
02:21:24,480 --> 02:21:27,600
Speaker 1: to envoys and I had all keep it real g

2213
02:21:28,240 --> 02:21:30,920
Speaker 1: I had every rocket Frollo artists and the boof had

2214
02:21:31,240 --> 02:21:34,879
Speaker 1: Biggs had to proven and big bis like Raigs Biggs.

2215
02:21:35,360 --> 02:21:37,440
Speaker 1: Biggs new what I was doing. But no, no, no

2216
02:21:37,560 --> 02:21:40,760
Speaker 1: bas like one thing. My base based like music. Well

2217
02:21:40,800 --> 02:21:45,400
Speaker 1: maybe were Regulus bass based my boss. You understand, Bagges

2218
02:21:45,480 --> 02:21:48,520
Speaker 1: was like Bigg like records. He's a proven it no records,

2219
02:21:48,560 --> 02:21:51,760
Speaker 1: no music. What did I say, records? Pull on on?

2220
02:21:54,840 --> 02:21:57,320
Speaker 1: What did I say? Big? Now, I'm gonna love me?

2221
02:21:57,400 --> 02:22:00,280
Speaker 1: Look what did I say? What he said? But really said?

2222
02:22:00,320 --> 02:22:05,640
Speaker 1: He on your favorite executive? I see why, Um I

2223
02:22:05,800 --> 02:22:10,200
Speaker 1: forgot why he's got bad. Remember remember chill, I'm not

2224
02:22:10,240 --> 02:22:13,080
Speaker 1: gonna look at you because he approved what all he said.

2225
02:22:13,080 --> 02:22:15,080
Speaker 1: He bro he said if he liked it, he approved

2226
02:22:15,200 --> 02:22:17,000
Speaker 1: that he give me whatever and give you a chance.

2227
02:22:18,000 --> 02:22:19,680
Speaker 1: And you just said the same as act. I just

2228
02:22:19,800 --> 02:22:23,440
Speaker 1: told this got the sucker. But I'm just saying with you,

2229
02:22:24,160 --> 02:22:26,560
Speaker 1: I'm helping your You like to help me? Is my man.

2230
02:22:28,800 --> 02:22:31,920
Speaker 1: I didn't just be big for that little Biggins. He

2231
02:22:32,040 --> 02:22:36,360
Speaker 1: was like eighteen pigspen. Since I was like, I don't

2232
02:22:36,400 --> 02:22:38,640
Speaker 1: wanna talk about this it's a ridiculous for years. Man,

2233
02:22:38,800 --> 02:22:42,840
Speaker 1: that's my friend. Man, it's his big brother, was my mentor,

2234
02:22:43,560 --> 02:22:46,160
Speaker 1: and Biggs is my man. You don't have to talk

2235
02:22:46,200 --> 02:22:51,440
Speaker 1: about Biggs everything. Biggs houses. I've been everywhere, Bigger, his father, rescipes,

2236
02:22:51,520 --> 02:22:54,320
Speaker 1: his mother. I knew everything, my lata babes. I would say,

2237
02:22:54,360 --> 02:22:56,800
Speaker 1: eating with Bases talking this is a good dude. Man.

2238
02:22:56,959 --> 02:22:58,760
Speaker 1: So I don't like when you're just doing this ship

2239
02:22:58,920 --> 02:23:20,640
Speaker 1: like big to somebody like that's my man. Ain't because

2240
02:23:21,080 --> 02:23:23,240
Speaker 1: we want to do a little bit. Because business Norman,

2241
02:23:23,400 --> 02:23:27,520
Speaker 1: this is my drink's been basically took them sit there.

2242
02:23:27,560 --> 02:23:30,520
Speaker 1: I never lacked. I just got said getting there because

2243
02:23:30,680 --> 02:23:34,520
Speaker 1: he kept saying, you've been the big house, keep saying

2244
02:23:34,520 --> 02:23:43,440
Speaker 1: that I'm doing good. It's all good. Okay, I want

2245
02:23:43,440 --> 02:23:48,160
Speaker 1: the bathroom. You listen. Is it that big great shows?

2246
02:23:48,920 --> 02:23:52,920
Speaker 1: Is that this? Want everybody to understand, Sorry, let me

2247
02:23:52,920 --> 02:23:54,760
Speaker 1: get let me get one second, let me get one second.

2248
02:23:55,680 --> 02:23:59,680
Speaker 1: I just want everybody to understand and realize me and

2249
02:23:59,800 --> 02:24:08,760
Speaker 1: this guy right here, Eric Fernando. But when we started

2250
02:24:08,800 --> 02:24:13,240
Speaker 1: this ship, we sat together and we said to ourselves,

2251
02:24:14,280 --> 02:24:17,120
Speaker 1: there's every format for a new artist to come on,

2252
02:24:17,680 --> 02:24:19,920
Speaker 1: Like if you're just new and you just you know,

2253
02:24:20,280 --> 02:24:22,720
Speaker 1: you had you had one record and you know the um,

2254
02:24:22,879 --> 02:24:25,920
Speaker 1: what's that ship called Millie Rock? You know what the

2255
02:24:26,000 --> 02:24:29,720
Speaker 1: Millie Rock? You got, you got your platform. You know,

2256
02:24:30,640 --> 02:24:34,080
Speaker 1: we respect that. But we sat around and said, where's

2257
02:24:34,080 --> 02:24:38,040
Speaker 1: the platform for people who've been in this industry, you know,

2258
02:24:38,280 --> 02:24:42,320
Speaker 1: more than five ten years, and where's the platform for

2259
02:24:42,440 --> 02:24:47,320
Speaker 1: them to respect them? Correct the event to talk about

2260
02:24:47,440 --> 02:24:49,960
Speaker 1: legacy as well, and legacy And this is the reason

2261
02:24:50,040 --> 02:24:54,520
Speaker 1: why I'm honored to be sitting in front BIGS, to

2262
02:24:54,560 --> 02:24:56,520
Speaker 1: be sitting in front of the to be sitting in

2263
02:24:56,600 --> 02:24:59,640
Speaker 1: front of Big Face Gary, and be sitting in Sting

2264
02:24:59,800 --> 02:25:08,320
Speaker 1: Ray Sting Rays. Correct? What what? What address? Again? Avenue?

2265
02:25:08,680 --> 02:25:11,800
Speaker 1: This is the reason why were The thing about hip

2266
02:25:11,879 --> 02:25:14,480
Speaker 1: hop is when you get a certain amount of years

2267
02:25:14,520 --> 02:25:17,199
Speaker 1: in hip hop, people want to tell you that's over

2268
02:25:17,320 --> 02:25:20,760
Speaker 1: for you. People want to tell you that you're done.

2269
02:25:21,840 --> 02:25:25,960
Speaker 1: You guys had a successful uh clothes company and you

2270
02:25:26,040 --> 02:25:29,200
Speaker 1: start another successful clothing company and you and Barnes and

2271
02:25:29,320 --> 02:25:34,280
Speaker 1: you and North Streams or whatever these people and these

2272
02:25:34,320 --> 02:25:39,560
Speaker 1: people want to say. These people want to say, you

2273
02:25:39,720 --> 02:25:42,800
Speaker 1: can't do it again. And the thing about it is

2274
02:25:42,920 --> 02:25:47,800
Speaker 1: our platform, what we represent is we can live forever

2275
02:25:50,080 --> 02:25:52,920
Speaker 1: because hip hop shouldn't have a limit to it. When

2276
02:25:52,959 --> 02:25:55,199
Speaker 1: you sit sit around and you look at the Rolling Stones,

2277
02:25:55,280 --> 02:25:57,560
Speaker 1: you look at the Rolling Stone magazines, look at the

2278
02:25:57,640 --> 02:26:03,000
Speaker 1: Rolling Stones, They're actually still touring. Publication is still actually

2279
02:26:03,360 --> 02:26:07,920
Speaker 1: in existence. Why we can't do that with hip hop?

2280
02:26:08,520 --> 02:26:11,520
Speaker 1: Why we can't why you know what I'm trying to say.

2281
02:26:11,600 --> 02:26:13,680
Speaker 1: What I'm trying to say is why we can't be

2282
02:26:13,800 --> 02:26:17,800
Speaker 1: our own like, why we can't we get it. Certain

2283
02:26:17,840 --> 02:26:21,000
Speaker 1: people gotta be on you know, reality shows and certain people.

2284
02:26:21,440 --> 02:26:25,640
Speaker 1: But we have to lift our people forever and make

2285
02:26:25,680 --> 02:26:28,120
Speaker 1: sure that they live forever and make sure that their

2286
02:26:28,240 --> 02:26:32,760
Speaker 1: legacy live forever. So that's what Drink Champions is about.

2287
02:26:34,320 --> 02:26:37,840
Speaker 1: That's what Drink Champions is about. Saluting d from rough writers.

2288
02:26:38,920 --> 02:26:43,480
Speaker 1: You know, bigs Yo, You guys are the epitome of

2289
02:26:43,680 --> 02:26:52,320
Speaker 1: CEOs in the time quick time boss in the time

2290
02:26:52,400 --> 02:26:56,960
Speaker 1: where CEOs matter, And we may never ever see that

2291
02:26:57,080 --> 02:27:00,560
Speaker 1: ever again. We just might not never see that against

2292
02:27:00,640 --> 02:27:03,920
Speaker 1: this lord. So if nobody else will big y'all up

2293
02:27:04,200 --> 02:27:07,520
Speaker 1: or salute y'all, And I'm sure people salute y'all, big

2294
02:27:07,600 --> 02:27:09,840
Speaker 1: y'all up, but I would like to do it on

2295
02:27:10,080 --> 02:27:15,000
Speaker 1: camera notified, so I don't know how many. Yeah, that too,

2296
02:27:16,680 --> 02:27:28,800
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on. Seems fun already, you know, Biggs,

2297
02:27:32,080 --> 02:27:35,880
Speaker 1: I can't thank you enough for being so honest with me,

2298
02:27:37,360 --> 02:27:41,600
Speaker 1: for so being so truthful with me at the time,

2299
02:27:42,760 --> 02:27:46,480
Speaker 1: and even when the breakop was happening, you never lied

2300
02:27:46,560 --> 02:27:49,240
Speaker 1: to me. You kept it real me, You kept it.

2301
02:27:50,640 --> 02:27:54,360
Speaker 1: You gave me a brief conversation, but it was real you.

2302
02:27:54,560 --> 02:27:58,800
Speaker 1: You didn't say you can't be real with me. And

2303
02:27:59,080 --> 02:28:02,080
Speaker 1: and think about that is I can only salute you

2304
02:28:02,200 --> 02:28:05,880
Speaker 1: for that. I can only bow that all ship then

2305
02:28:06,200 --> 02:28:12,400
Speaker 1: might get me a d the same exact thing. Um,

2306
02:28:12,920 --> 02:28:17,320
Speaker 1: you guys dominated whatever you had to do, would you ever?

2307
02:28:17,560 --> 02:28:21,160
Speaker 1: You guys was dominated. You guys came back and you

2308
02:28:21,280 --> 02:28:23,160
Speaker 1: never You never changed on me. If I needed a

2309
02:28:23,240 --> 02:28:26,280
Speaker 1: DMX feature, if I needed a locks feature, I needed

2310
02:28:26,280 --> 02:28:28,960
Speaker 1: to Jada kiss feature, you always cleared it for me.

2311
02:28:29,840 --> 02:28:32,400
Speaker 1: And the thing about it is, I missed the error

2312
02:28:33,000 --> 02:28:35,160
Speaker 1: when you guys are in the forefront. Not saying you

2313
02:28:35,200 --> 02:28:38,320
Speaker 1: guys are not at the forefront now, but what I'm

2314
02:28:38,360 --> 02:28:41,640
Speaker 1: saying is I missed when you guys was actually in

2315
02:28:41,760 --> 02:28:48,320
Speaker 1: the building. Yeah, you know, because now I'm a media guy,

2316
02:28:48,720 --> 02:28:54,720
Speaker 1: so now to invite me as a media job. So

2317
02:28:55,640 --> 02:28:58,120
Speaker 1: I get invited into the building, but I'm like kind

2318
02:28:58,200 --> 02:29:01,480
Speaker 1: of media, like, you know, we got such a such

2319
02:29:01,560 --> 02:29:05,160
Speaker 1: shooter what's his name? And they want me to cover

2320
02:29:05,320 --> 02:29:08,000
Speaker 1: him and they want me to interview this guy, Like,

2321
02:29:08,160 --> 02:29:12,400
Speaker 1: that's not you guys never seen my show. I slute legends,

2322
02:29:12,800 --> 02:29:15,280
Speaker 1: slute people that have been here, people that have more

2323
02:29:15,360 --> 02:29:18,800
Speaker 1: than ten years or more in this game. Because if

2324
02:29:20,200 --> 02:29:21,960
Speaker 1: you don't have more than ten years in this game,

2325
02:29:22,240 --> 02:29:24,520
Speaker 1: you you have Hot nuney seven, you have Power one

2326
02:29:24,600 --> 02:29:28,160
Speaker 1: on five, you have you have the entire Internet. You

2327
02:29:28,240 --> 02:29:31,760
Speaker 1: have to Internet. But to get on this joint you

2328
02:29:31,879 --> 02:29:33,720
Speaker 1: have to be ten years or more and be a

2329
02:29:33,879 --> 02:29:39,400
Speaker 1: legend trying to pass down the store. No, you don't

2330
02:29:39,440 --> 02:29:44,560
Speaker 1: have to be years and years in years. You got

2331
02:29:44,640 --> 02:29:50,200
Speaker 1: to be doing. And the thing about it is YouTube

2332
02:29:50,440 --> 02:29:55,199
Speaker 1: brothers along Big Face Guy Live some of the most

2333
02:29:55,560 --> 02:30:01,280
Speaker 1: craziest errors in hip hop, Like DMX and jay Z

2334
02:30:01,879 --> 02:30:06,520
Speaker 1: had to be the two most craziest, most opposites popping

2335
02:30:07,400 --> 02:30:13,040
Speaker 1: at the same time. Yes, because s was, I mean,

2336
02:30:13,280 --> 02:30:16,360
Speaker 1: to my mind, he's still out of his mind, that's funny.

2337
02:30:16,560 --> 02:30:22,039
Speaker 1: I love and then Jay he's the most put together

2338
02:30:23,240 --> 02:30:29,080
Speaker 1: person in the world. But money cash holes worked. How

2339
02:30:29,160 --> 02:30:33,000
Speaker 1: does that? How does that work? I mean, Jane, you

2340
02:30:33,080 --> 02:30:35,879
Speaker 1: know he goes anyway. So it depends on whatever song

2341
02:30:36,000 --> 02:30:41,000
Speaker 1: he's getting on. That's what he's gonna be here. He

2342
02:30:41,440 --> 02:30:43,880
Speaker 1: was first right by seeing in my life man and

2343
02:30:44,000 --> 02:30:46,560
Speaker 1: my big boases. I know Jay, he does a monster.

2344
02:30:47,320 --> 02:30:49,879
Speaker 1: He proved it already. You did too much ready, Man,

2345
02:30:50,840 --> 02:30:53,680
Speaker 1: he did it already. Man, I can't believe it. Ship

2346
02:31:00,040 --> 02:31:03,640
Speaker 1: kind of your seriously, then you've got two grades. Yeah, bus,

2347
02:31:03,760 --> 02:31:06,240
Speaker 1: my friend, I'm a bus for years. Bas the journey.

2348
02:31:06,320 --> 02:31:09,880
Speaker 1: Yeah you're laughing. Oh yea joke, Bas, Yeah, slim you.

2349
02:31:10,000 --> 02:31:13,120
Speaker 1: So I'm getting friends wrap with your friend. This is

2350
02:31:13,120 --> 02:31:22,240
Speaker 1: about thousands. You love me fifty ugly and they love

2351
02:31:22,320 --> 02:31:24,840
Speaker 1: me and I love yo. This is crazy man. Yeah,

2352
02:31:25,200 --> 02:31:27,400
Speaker 1: I'm super happy. I'm super happy. You made my dad. Man,

2353
02:31:30,800 --> 02:31:35,240
Speaker 1: it's a beautiful thing. You threw me off what you

2354
02:31:35,280 --> 02:31:38,400
Speaker 1: can kill me all night. I wasn't killing you, kill you.

2355
02:31:38,879 --> 02:31:41,040
Speaker 1: I killed you for thirty seconds. It's your I love it.

2356
02:31:41,080 --> 02:31:43,760
Speaker 1: I love it. I killed me for't even spong. I

2357
02:31:43,800 --> 02:31:45,880
Speaker 1: got bad jokes, you know, I got I know your animals.

2358
02:31:49,680 --> 02:31:54,120
Speaker 1: Rocket fall of this Hero with Joe let me say,

2359
02:31:54,120 --> 02:31:57,000
Speaker 1: you want me take some I don't see stuff first,

2360
02:31:57,320 --> 02:32:01,200
Speaker 1: dude I've ever seen in the whole industry, like he can't. No, No,

2361
02:32:01,320 --> 02:32:04,040
Speaker 1: I'm ge. I'm not even trying to be funny. You

2362
02:32:04,160 --> 02:32:07,520
Speaker 1: came to my studio one day and everything I said

2363
02:32:08,240 --> 02:32:11,600
Speaker 1: it was like, yeah, he kept naming the rocket for

2364
02:32:11,720 --> 02:32:15,680
Speaker 1: the artist, and I was like, Gee, I'm sorry, Gee,

2365
02:32:15,760 --> 02:32:21,040
Speaker 1: I'm not. You're not killing out prom you'rekilling me and

2366
02:32:21,120 --> 02:32:24,600
Speaker 1: I can you know this is a life like you

2367
02:32:24,680 --> 02:32:32,760
Speaker 1: know you could go home, you know, eat your girl's pussy. Fella. Yeah,

2368
02:32:33,000 --> 02:32:35,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say this. If you come from certain things

2369
02:32:35,640 --> 02:32:39,119
Speaker 1: you're not used to. I'm I'm trying to go around

2370
02:32:40,840 --> 02:32:45,400
Speaker 1: home making semi grand a year. What am I supposed

2371
02:32:45,400 --> 02:32:48,520
Speaker 1: to do with guys who I grew up with? This

2372
02:32:48,680 --> 02:32:52,959
Speaker 1: motherfucker he's coming to my studio. I'd be like, Yo,

2373
02:32:53,040 --> 02:32:56,360
Speaker 1: what's going on? You good? But Yo? You know beans

2374
02:32:56,400 --> 02:33:03,320
Speaker 1: and I get niggas alone when you come here like this.

2375
02:33:04,400 --> 02:33:06,120
Speaker 1: I'm not going to kill kill me, killing man. No,

2376
02:33:06,200 --> 02:33:13,400
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not. How much was he never listened

2377
02:33:13,400 --> 02:33:17,280
Speaker 1: to me? This is the first time in my whole life.

2378
02:33:17,360 --> 02:33:20,080
Speaker 1: I said, that's a that's a that's a that's a

2379
02:33:20,280 --> 02:33:23,199
Speaker 1: version of being too loyal, Like he was just too loyal.

2380
02:33:23,320 --> 02:33:26,400
Speaker 1: Like what I mean was he couldn't see I'm not

2381
02:33:26,520 --> 02:33:29,160
Speaker 1: coming at you you kill you. No, I'm not coming out.

2382
02:33:29,200 --> 02:33:34,680
Speaker 1: I just never see nobody I'm bigging you up because ye,

2383
02:33:34,840 --> 02:33:38,000
Speaker 1: the loyalty was so crazy. But at the same time,

2384
02:33:38,520 --> 02:33:40,800
Speaker 1: I'm just like, gee, you know, a see saw goes

2385
02:33:40,920 --> 02:33:45,039
Speaker 1: up and down. You know, we see the up part.

2386
02:33:45,959 --> 02:33:47,480
Speaker 1: And then I was like, yo, you gotta you know,

2387
02:33:48,040 --> 02:33:54,240
Speaker 1: you gotta come down. And I almost got evicted. I

2388
02:33:54,320 --> 02:33:57,039
Speaker 1: have no idea where we're going to be the asshole.

2389
02:33:57,280 --> 02:34:00,960
Speaker 1: It's your base, wasn't to bigg has never told me

2390
02:34:01,040 --> 02:34:04,320
Speaker 1: no in my life. I don't know where you've been

2391
02:34:04,360 --> 02:34:06,400
Speaker 1: a little bit to what I do. Kill me a little,

2392
02:34:07,080 --> 02:34:10,400
Speaker 1: get a little back. My point was that there was

2393
02:34:10,440 --> 02:34:12,600
Speaker 1: hard times after Rocket for them, Death Music and Folder,

2394
02:34:15,040 --> 02:34:17,199
Speaker 1: and then it was Tim was stressed out before that part.

2395
02:34:18,280 --> 02:34:23,720
Speaker 1: Way before that, Bigs had a rule basically, get mad,

2396
02:34:23,800 --> 02:34:26,960
Speaker 1: I don't give a fuck, but he will make up. Gee,

2397
02:34:27,000 --> 02:34:32,960
Speaker 1: whatever I do for you, don't tell nobody beautiful. It's beautiful,

2398
02:34:34,640 --> 02:34:39,280
Speaker 1: beautiful remember ship still but base, I'm saying it's a

2399
02:34:39,360 --> 02:34:41,680
Speaker 1: front base. Use them, you know all. Let me say

2400
02:34:41,720 --> 02:34:43,720
Speaker 1: this just to get base a little bit. What's your

2401
02:34:43,760 --> 02:34:46,920
Speaker 1: big brother, my man? I love that. Maybe Biggs on

2402
02:34:47,000 --> 02:34:49,240
Speaker 1: my love to death when he died, took a chunk

2403
02:34:49,280 --> 02:34:53,960
Speaker 1: out of me, boblem when I needed Biggs. He never

2404
02:34:54,040 --> 02:34:59,440
Speaker 1: tried this back on me ever, ever, ever, ever, ever ever,

2405
02:35:00,320 --> 02:35:03,879
Speaker 1: It'd be bullshit money. I'm embarrassed asked for hundred dollars

2406
02:35:04,160 --> 02:35:07,920
Speaker 1: because I had a lot of pride for hunted her

2407
02:35:07,959 --> 02:35:10,960
Speaker 1: three hundred and your car made Dame Dash breakout. Let's

2408
02:35:10,959 --> 02:35:13,520
Speaker 1: just throw that out there. What calls MP about the

2409
02:35:14,360 --> 02:35:16,320
Speaker 1: Dame Dash? One time we went in your car and

2410
02:35:16,440 --> 02:35:28,240
Speaker 1: Dame Dash said he got hobs. I was just do

2411
02:35:28,320 --> 02:35:33,840
Speaker 1: two shots, you kill me? Do two shots shout shout

2412
02:35:33,920 --> 02:35:36,240
Speaker 1: the up board side, shout out the haitious sucked by

2413
02:35:36,280 --> 02:35:48,520
Speaker 1: some women shot to my mane back to alright. I

2414
02:35:48,560 --> 02:35:50,160
Speaker 1: don't even know what car had, but I don't know

2415
02:35:50,320 --> 02:35:51,960
Speaker 1: how the MP V man had the DBS. It was

2416
02:35:52,000 --> 02:35:58,480
Speaker 1: pop definitely wasn't there. It was like a Chevrolet. Definitely

2417
02:35:58,600 --> 02:36:01,160
Speaker 1: was the MP D gays b B. I can't even later,

2418
02:36:02,000 --> 02:36:04,840
Speaker 1: but I wrote in the car and I went with

2419
02:36:05,040 --> 02:36:07,760
Speaker 1: Dane damn tondy me. Where is an art district I was,

2420
02:36:08,480 --> 02:36:10,520
Speaker 1: and then he couldn't sleep. I mean he was just

2421
02:36:10,600 --> 02:36:14,480
Speaker 1: like about under the raid tone almost finish your career. Yeah,

2422
02:36:16,560 --> 02:36:24,080
Speaker 1: Almo broke your house. That's my brothers. Let I'm joking,

2423
02:36:24,800 --> 02:36:28,840
Speaker 1: Bumby and Nory the only rappers he said, fun wrap

2424
02:36:28,959 --> 02:36:32,800
Speaker 1: we love. He had a big, gass house. I was ridiculous. Listen.

2425
02:36:34,160 --> 02:36:37,040
Speaker 1: He was the only thing I used to come on

2426
02:36:37,600 --> 02:36:39,760
Speaker 1: doing big just to call me and say, I feel

2427
02:36:39,800 --> 02:36:45,200
Speaker 1: like you're smoking hags drive what's his name? Be too

2428
02:36:46,160 --> 02:36:49,240
Speaker 1: too to be outside, be to see me for you

2429
02:36:50,640 --> 02:36:55,040
Speaker 1: had a big ass cookie job from Biggs while you

2430
02:36:55,160 --> 02:36:59,320
Speaker 1: met selling we his money. Funny, why do people think yourself?

2431
02:37:00,000 --> 02:37:07,960
Speaker 1: You don't know what people thank you and something? The

2432
02:37:08,000 --> 02:37:13,440
Speaker 1: bottom just defend you so much to me only one Listen.

2433
02:37:13,560 --> 02:37:17,280
Speaker 1: We went to amsterdamn to get Harold warm landed, and

2434
02:37:17,360 --> 02:37:21,840
Speaker 1: he still say let's go get some sour. You don't

2435
02:37:21,879 --> 02:37:26,280
Speaker 1: remember that day. They're telling me big some of well.

2436
02:37:26,680 --> 02:37:31,160
Speaker 1: I said, big day said you come now. I came

2437
02:37:31,200 --> 02:37:33,760
Speaker 1: out of my career. He said, take a trip with me.

2438
02:37:33,840 --> 02:37:37,920
Speaker 1: I said, all right, cool. I brought no bags. I'm like,

2439
02:37:38,000 --> 02:37:39,840
Speaker 1: all right cool. And we didn'tchee the borrow I'm like,

2440
02:37:40,120 --> 02:37:42,320
Speaker 1: hold on, type of trip will we take it? But

2441
02:37:43,040 --> 02:37:47,200
Speaker 1: Nigga said, well, we're going overseas, said I gotta get

2442
02:37:47,280 --> 02:37:49,560
Speaker 1: some clothes. So that's not that's not what we were

2443
02:37:49,600 --> 02:37:52,280
Speaker 1: doing over here, Slam, you bought the clothes with me. Lad.

2444
02:37:53,920 --> 02:37:56,400
Speaker 1: I wasn't a bowler like that back then. I didn't

2445
02:37:56,440 --> 02:37:58,640
Speaker 1: know what to do, so I was like, alright, cool,

2446
02:37:58,879 --> 02:38:02,640
Speaker 1: I can't really I got so I went. We went

2447
02:38:02,720 --> 02:38:07,400
Speaker 1: to Amsterdam. This is when Haro Winna first, like that's

2448
02:38:07,400 --> 02:38:09,320
Speaker 1: the first time I ever heard of Herojuanna. I actually

2449
02:38:09,320 --> 02:38:15,200
Speaker 1: thought we were smoking heroin, but I just said, I'm

2450
02:38:15,280 --> 02:38:18,560
Speaker 1: any way too deep to pull out at this point.

2451
02:38:19,200 --> 02:38:23,000
Speaker 1: Fuck it, we're gonna smoke heroin. Yeah, niggas ain't laughing.

2452
02:38:25,800 --> 02:38:30,480
Speaker 1: In my mind, like fucking these niggas is mad. This

2453
02:38:30,640 --> 02:38:36,000
Speaker 1: is dead. It's not Yeah in my mind, I said, Carojuanna,

2454
02:38:36,680 --> 02:38:40,480
Speaker 1: it was so good. It was we don't we don't

2455
02:38:40,520 --> 02:38:46,600
Speaker 1: get it that she was and then you came back,

2456
02:38:47,800 --> 02:38:52,879
Speaker 1: and then you came back, and then and then then

2457
02:38:53,360 --> 02:38:55,720
Speaker 1: like the case happened about two or three years later,

2458
02:38:56,000 --> 02:38:59,800
Speaker 1: and people were saying, Biggs with selling but now almost

2459
02:39:00,400 --> 02:39:02,840
Speaker 1: almost spoke to like three people and I'm trying to

2460
02:39:03,040 --> 02:39:08,840
Speaker 1: explain to people, Bigs, it's really a real smoke that

2461
02:39:09,000 --> 02:39:12,480
Speaker 1: Nigga is he ain't doing but this is this is mine,

2462
02:39:12,520 --> 02:39:15,680
Speaker 1: So I never actually asked you that. So what happened

2463
02:39:15,720 --> 02:39:19,440
Speaker 1: with the case again? Again? One monthime, I'm bother d.

2464
02:39:19,840 --> 02:39:22,240
Speaker 1: I introduced to people it was a conspiracy and I

2465
02:39:22,360 --> 02:39:25,000
Speaker 1: chose not to tell. That's the short from it's a

2466
02:39:25,160 --> 02:39:32,400
Speaker 1: bit stern business. I'm sorry, but we don't take a

2467
02:39:32,400 --> 02:39:34,120
Speaker 1: shot of that guy. I'm telling whatever you want me

2468
02:39:34,120 --> 02:39:36,320
Speaker 1: to do. Big Big from his brother's camp man, Big Brother,

2469
02:39:36,440 --> 02:39:39,560
Speaker 1: Big bab Lau told me everything I know I can discreeze.

2470
02:39:39,840 --> 02:39:41,760
Speaker 1: He told me a lot. God bless your soul. Man,

2471
02:39:42,080 --> 02:39:43,959
Speaker 1: I knew that wasn't gonna happen. I knew that wasn't

2472
02:39:43,959 --> 02:39:48,080
Speaker 1: gonna happen. I wasn't gonna happen. Not Bigger Leo, what

2473
02:39:48,320 --> 02:39:50,800
Speaker 1: wasn't gonna happen? Big telling among people who whatever he

2474
02:39:50,879 --> 02:39:53,640
Speaker 1: will happen, and that wasn't gonna happen. Big said, give

2475
02:39:53,680 --> 02:39:56,800
Speaker 1: me that. But you know BIG's got a big time money,

2476
02:39:56,920 --> 02:39:59,200
Speaker 1: so you have to wait for lawyers, biggest promoter as

2477
02:39:59,240 --> 02:40:12,760
Speaker 1: much as can, he said, I can't ask me your

2478
02:40:12,760 --> 02:40:19,120
Speaker 1: way saying that gonna shill me. So now big, all right,

2479
02:40:19,240 --> 02:40:23,560
Speaker 1: let's just look right, okay, let's chet everybody. Everybody please

2480
02:40:23,600 --> 02:40:25,920
Speaker 1: give me, give me one second, one second. This is

2481
02:40:26,040 --> 02:40:29,039
Speaker 1: this is my time. So now here's the man out

2482
02:40:29,040 --> 02:40:32,040
Speaker 1: of question the whole industry that I watched all your

2483
02:40:32,080 --> 02:40:37,440
Speaker 1: interviews and they never asked it right when you were

2484
02:40:37,480 --> 02:40:41,720
Speaker 1: locked up, right, there was so many rumors, so many things,

2485
02:40:42,360 --> 02:40:46,320
Speaker 1: and then you come home. Prior to you coming home,

2486
02:40:46,640 --> 02:40:51,880
Speaker 1: Dame had actually did like a publicity run and he

2487
02:40:52,080 --> 02:40:55,880
Speaker 1: was quote on how you were mad at people. He

2488
02:40:56,080 --> 02:41:00,760
Speaker 1: was like, Biggs is madda Kanye, biggest, madda Jay, biggest

2489
02:41:00,879 --> 02:41:05,520
Speaker 1: mad You know why you don't when you get added

2490
02:41:05,600 --> 02:41:10,480
Speaker 1: me keep it added, but don't kick So so Dame

2491
02:41:10,680 --> 02:41:13,360
Speaker 1: was just he was just running with this right. Well, Dame,

2492
02:41:13,400 --> 02:41:15,400
Speaker 1: I actually said, I've seen the interview on Sway. He said,

2493
02:41:15,440 --> 02:41:17,720
Speaker 1: Biggs is probably gonna be mad at me for saying

2494
02:41:17,800 --> 02:41:21,840
Speaker 1: this because I was coming from him, But I see

2495
02:41:21,879 --> 02:41:24,400
Speaker 1: the Brethers Club. He didn't say that, so he did

2496
02:41:24,560 --> 02:41:28,480
Speaker 1: afterwards he fixed it. Okay, So why do you think

2497
02:41:28,560 --> 02:41:32,280
Speaker 1: Dame took that approach? I'm not sure. I can't. You know,

2498
02:41:32,800 --> 02:41:35,320
Speaker 1: Dame is dame, you know, but I didn't feel in

2499
02:41:35,360 --> 02:41:38,199
Speaker 1: no way by anybody, all right, So then I'm taking

2500
02:41:38,240 --> 02:41:43,000
Speaker 1: it from you coming home. You're coming home. Did anybody

2501
02:41:43,160 --> 02:41:45,440
Speaker 1: act funny with you because of those statements? Or no?

2502
02:41:46,000 --> 02:41:48,120
Speaker 1: Not at all, because I think the first picture we

2503
02:41:48,200 --> 02:41:50,080
Speaker 1: ever seen of you when you came home was in

2504
02:41:50,240 --> 02:41:54,880
Speaker 1: Madison school garden, correct with Kanye? Probably? Yeah? Yeah? And

2505
02:41:55,760 --> 02:41:58,280
Speaker 1: then like me, I'm fake media now, so the end

2506
02:41:58,280 --> 02:42:02,720
Speaker 1: of that, we're crazy s long as your minds. So yeah,

2507
02:42:02,760 --> 02:42:06,280
Speaker 1: you could do that when you ready. So did you

2508
02:42:06,440 --> 02:42:09,080
Speaker 1: did you? Did you think? Did you? Did you know

2509
02:42:09,160 --> 02:42:11,840
Speaker 1: how powerful the internet was it that at that point?

2510
02:42:13,160 --> 02:42:17,400
Speaker 1: Definitely you knew it. I wasn't in side Barrier. I

2511
02:42:17,480 --> 02:42:22,680
Speaker 1: was in Philadelphia or the Fats. So now you come home,

2512
02:42:24,160 --> 02:42:28,119
Speaker 1: you hit this backlash, you hear, you hear what's happening.

2513
02:42:29,160 --> 02:42:34,840
Speaker 1: And then the first thing is we hear you say

2514
02:42:35,200 --> 02:42:38,040
Speaker 1: you don't got nothing to do with it? Do with that,

2515
02:42:38,800 --> 02:42:42,640
Speaker 1: and then you and Jay is in Fairfax and the

2516
02:42:43,160 --> 02:42:47,000
Speaker 1: Supreme Block I figet with. Yeah. I called it the

2517
02:42:47,000 --> 02:42:50,119
Speaker 1: Supreme Block because the Supreme is right. So they see

2518
02:42:50,160 --> 02:42:54,000
Speaker 1: you and there's no dang dash there, and then two

2519
02:42:54,080 --> 02:42:55,880
Speaker 1: days later they see me and there did they see

2520
02:42:55,920 --> 02:42:59,680
Speaker 1: you and there? Actually you put that together? Mm hmm.

2521
02:43:00,160 --> 02:43:04,680
Speaker 1: Give me the problems. Talk about that, Bigs. What happened

2522
02:43:04,680 --> 02:43:08,480
Speaker 1: to him? About Big Ye? What happened you reached out

2523
02:43:08,520 --> 02:43:11,280
Speaker 1: to me? He was like, yoe um, hey, damn yeah,

2524
02:43:11,280 --> 02:43:14,240
Speaker 1: because you know, I'm gonna be honest with you. I

2525
02:43:14,360 --> 02:43:16,240
Speaker 1: never said this, and I hope Dame is not mad

2526
02:43:16,280 --> 02:43:20,560
Speaker 1: at me. But I looked and I seen you hold together,

2527
02:43:21,760 --> 02:43:24,240
Speaker 1: and really you're not told me that. I think prior

2528
02:43:24,320 --> 02:43:28,160
Speaker 1: to that it wasn't then, you know, I mean you have.

2529
02:43:28,320 --> 02:43:30,080
Speaker 1: I had it, but I spoke on the seeing them,

2530
02:43:30,240 --> 02:43:33,120
Speaker 1: so had pictures with J had pictures were day and

2531
02:43:33,240 --> 02:43:37,400
Speaker 1: I appreciated it so much because it's just like when

2532
02:43:37,440 --> 02:43:42,360
Speaker 1: I see somebody who's with punt Um and now obviously

2533
02:43:42,400 --> 02:43:44,920
Speaker 1: punt is not here, I always want to give him

2534
02:43:45,000 --> 02:43:48,000
Speaker 1: that same love that if pund was here. So when

2535
02:43:48,040 --> 02:43:51,520
Speaker 1: I see Rocket Fellow, it's just I always think of

2536
02:43:51,640 --> 02:43:55,960
Speaker 1: y'all three, am I It's the same thing. None changed?

2537
02:43:56,520 --> 02:43:59,440
Speaker 1: Am I idiot for thinking that three? Or it's a

2538
02:43:59,480 --> 02:44:01,959
Speaker 1: trific that it's all of us. Rockefeller couldn't have ben

2539
02:44:02,040 --> 02:44:06,119
Speaker 1: Rocket fell without me, j and Dan Okay, Big Tim,

2540
02:44:06,480 --> 02:44:09,080
Speaker 1: So let me actually tell my brothers to this day

2541
02:44:09,120 --> 02:44:16,160
Speaker 1: botha god damn. Let's make some days. So now the

2542
02:44:16,240 --> 02:44:21,880
Speaker 1: reasonable Doubt album is that owned by you, Dane and Jay.

2543
02:44:22,680 --> 02:44:26,680
Speaker 1: I knew that. I knew that. Sorry, Bass, I dispectful.

2544
02:44:26,800 --> 02:44:28,680
Speaker 1: I was there for that. I knew what happened to

2545
02:44:28,720 --> 02:44:31,440
Speaker 1: that project. Sorr Yo cursed me out. I was there

2546
02:44:31,520 --> 02:44:37,320
Speaker 1: for every song day made Babes go Doubt was the

2547
02:44:39,520 --> 02:44:42,440
Speaker 1: crew ain't and all that not me? Not Big. They

2548
02:44:42,520 --> 02:44:44,760
Speaker 1: got drunk with the student and we did record after

2549
02:44:44,840 --> 02:44:49,240
Speaker 1: record after record, all of them names. Yes on the

2550
02:44:49,320 --> 02:44:56,600
Speaker 1: West Side, but that's my brothers I remember, so they

2551
02:44:59,200 --> 02:45:01,680
Speaker 1: know where I'm from. Yeah, I gotta do what I do, man,

2552
02:45:01,760 --> 02:45:03,960
Speaker 1: just want to do. But now it's slum. I gotta

2553
02:45:03,959 --> 02:45:08,200
Speaker 1: say that man Big was about stove Emory Tap and

2554
02:45:08,320 --> 02:45:14,040
Speaker 1: be talking just your man name to big Time, big time, Yes, sir,

2555
02:45:14,200 --> 02:45:18,000
Speaker 1: big time, Yes, sir. We hung out every enough boil makers.

2556
02:45:18,120 --> 02:45:20,680
Speaker 1: We had to dive ball nights is Amsterdam, which your

2557
02:45:20,840 --> 02:45:24,080
Speaker 1: boy making us beard with shots of bourbon. The tap,

2558
02:45:24,160 --> 02:45:26,880
Speaker 1: white people, not the tap is twenty hundred. Garret is

2559
02:45:26,920 --> 02:45:29,080
Speaker 1: gonna pay this, So let's just get it others way

2560
02:45:29,160 --> 02:45:32,640
Speaker 1: top top one spray right, that's that's a fact. I

2561
02:45:32,680 --> 02:45:34,160
Speaker 1: don't know to see that. I don't get into that.

2562
02:45:34,640 --> 02:45:36,480
Speaker 1: Just get into you go with your ship. I don't

2563
02:45:36,480 --> 02:45:38,880
Speaker 1: know about that. I don't know nothing about the men

2564
02:45:38,920 --> 02:45:42,039
Speaker 1: of the Biggs. What I don't know about that? Bigs

2565
02:45:42,080 --> 02:45:48,879
Speaker 1: on nothing think you we got you to spill? Man,

2566
02:45:50,320 --> 02:45:55,800
Speaker 1: what's good spills? I don't care about this great spills.

2567
02:45:56,280 --> 02:45:59,879
Speaker 1: I don't love you, and I love you all loves

2568
02:46:00,040 --> 02:46:04,760
Speaker 1: and smokes like if you hit one full life, it's

2569
02:46:04,760 --> 02:46:06,959
Speaker 1: not gonna happen. Now, we're not gonna have to drive home.

2570
02:46:07,080 --> 02:46:10,600
Speaker 1: I'm good. I love I gotta drive home. You driving

2571
02:46:10,760 --> 02:46:19,520
Speaker 1: ships for Miami? What are you driving? Joy? Yeah, I'm

2572
02:46:19,520 --> 02:46:22,200
Speaker 1: gonna screw This is the we laugh. This is special man,

2573
02:46:22,720 --> 02:46:24,280
Speaker 1: you know that's what I were doing. This is the

2574
02:46:24,440 --> 02:46:33,360
Speaker 1: best taste something shop in America. Yeah, the most time.

2575
02:46:33,440 --> 02:46:36,040
Speaker 1: My goal list, you know, my goal list to be

2576
02:46:36,120 --> 02:46:40,160
Speaker 1: the second best show in America. Podcast. You gonna make

2577
02:46:40,200 --> 02:46:43,560
Speaker 1: it up because I gotta This is crazy. I'm gonna

2578
02:46:44,360 --> 02:46:48,959
Speaker 1: you know, you know, like half that ship is crazy, right,

2579
02:46:50,240 --> 02:46:55,120
Speaker 1: Look a bigs you have a handle a million dollars.

2580
02:46:55,160 --> 02:47:00,520
Speaker 1: Bags kissed me on Biggs. They hand the wagon with

2581
02:47:00,680 --> 02:47:05,400
Speaker 1: base lovers with a hat a bunch of money played

2582
02:47:05,400 --> 02:47:12,480
Speaker 1: in Greek You played the game Great So Big, So Big.

2583
02:47:13,760 --> 02:47:18,400
Speaker 1: One of the shows I would like to teach. It's

2584
02:47:18,440 --> 02:47:24,039
Speaker 1: called rap class, right, meaning I spent probably like um

2585
02:47:25,879 --> 02:47:31,680
Speaker 1: d bigs. Everybody from from seven Tonight two thousand and seven,

2586
02:47:32,400 --> 02:47:36,960
Speaker 1: two thousand and seventeen, we might have spent seventeen like

2587
02:47:37,040 --> 02:47:45,320
Speaker 1: a million dollars in liquor, right ship, So but we

2588
02:47:45,440 --> 02:47:48,560
Speaker 1: still don't understand, like people in the hood still don't

2589
02:47:48,600 --> 02:47:51,600
Speaker 1: understand like a good bottle or red one that called

2590
02:47:51,680 --> 02:47:55,920
Speaker 1: six hundred dollars. So I wanted to teach rap class,

2591
02:47:57,000 --> 02:48:01,400
Speaker 1: meaning you know we you you say, I want to

2592
02:48:01,400 --> 02:48:05,280
Speaker 1: spend this, but you get this, like I see the

2593
02:48:05,320 --> 02:48:11,480
Speaker 1: pictures with about say that, um Steve Stout. You see

2594
02:48:11,760 --> 02:48:14,960
Speaker 1: that that photograph or where Steve Stout was coming from

2595
02:48:15,040 --> 02:48:20,360
Speaker 1: Italy and and they actually pulled Steve Stout over and

2596
02:48:20,440 --> 02:48:23,000
Speaker 1: he was sitting there and he had all these bottles,

2597
02:48:23,080 --> 02:48:26,520
Speaker 1: and I had, you know, I got white friends, So

2598
02:48:26,640 --> 02:48:29,760
Speaker 1: I had the white friends google every bottle that he had,

2599
02:48:31,160 --> 02:48:34,360
Speaker 1: and every bottle that he had was like dirty seven hunted.

2600
02:48:36,440 --> 02:48:39,680
Speaker 1: But it was ship that I never heard of, and

2601
02:48:39,760 --> 02:48:43,160
Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, I want to drink that do you

2602
02:48:43,240 --> 02:48:54,480
Speaker 1: think we need wrap class noise, because that's real ship.

2603
02:48:54,959 --> 02:48:57,279
Speaker 1: We spend money on the liquor, but we don't understand

2604
02:48:57,360 --> 02:48:59,879
Speaker 1: what we're actually buying. It's just like when Hole says,

2605
02:49:00,000 --> 02:49:04,840
Speaker 1: stop buying Christal. We didn't understand that he actually um

2606
02:49:05,200 --> 02:49:08,879
Speaker 1: applied something for it to be replaceable with Mason's spade

2607
02:49:09,800 --> 02:49:16,520
Speaker 1: or drinking something else besides the rock. I said, that's

2608
02:49:16,560 --> 02:49:18,440
Speaker 1: what I'm trying to say. That's what he That's what

2609
02:49:18,640 --> 02:49:31,200
Speaker 1: Jay said. He said, I love drink something. Drink when

2610
02:49:32,600 --> 02:49:35,480
Speaker 1: it is big, is gonna smoke up from like, Oh no,

2611
02:49:36,959 --> 02:49:40,120
Speaker 1: ill is it because you're on your workout ship. You

2612
02:49:40,280 --> 02:49:44,040
Speaker 1: just beat parole, correct, probation, probation, Let's make some big.

2613
02:49:45,360 --> 02:49:52,040
Speaker 1: Let's okay, so you beat probation, I ain't beat it.

2614
02:49:52,200 --> 02:49:59,040
Speaker 1: I got it, he finish. So when it's big is

2615
02:49:59,120 --> 02:50:01,760
Speaker 1: coming you this guy right here, his name is Jordan's.

2616
02:50:03,080 --> 02:50:08,640
Speaker 1: He's the biggest weed growing in Rhode Islands. Correct undirect

2617
02:50:09,879 --> 02:50:11,840
Speaker 1: Because big is about your whole farm. You gotta likes.

2618
02:50:14,920 --> 02:50:18,760
Speaker 1: So when this BIG's coming back home to the country,

2619
02:50:19,120 --> 02:50:22,520
Speaker 1: I don't know. You don't know. Right now, I'm just

2620
02:50:22,560 --> 02:50:26,560
Speaker 1: trying to actually just drink wine myself. That's it. That's it, y'all.

2621
02:50:26,560 --> 02:50:28,280
Speaker 1: Remember at one point you should come to a crab

2622
02:50:28,640 --> 02:50:30,800
Speaker 1: and you used to stop like three weeks after like

2623
02:50:30,920 --> 02:50:33,120
Speaker 1: before you go to see the po and then you

2624
02:50:33,280 --> 02:50:37,480
Speaker 1: just make cookies. You just used me as you were

2625
02:50:37,520 --> 02:50:41,240
Speaker 1: just told like seven ounces one cookie without your hair

2626
02:50:41,360 --> 02:50:53,640
Speaker 1: already small word. Just watch me, you know, listen, I

2627
02:50:53,720 --> 02:50:55,960
Speaker 1: sweeter guard. I'm not a line. It's so different, man.

2628
02:50:55,959 --> 02:50:58,040
Speaker 1: It's my boy. It's the first time I ever smoked

2629
02:50:58,080 --> 02:51:04,480
Speaker 1: the volcano. You know what? Little they got seven different

2630
02:51:04,560 --> 02:51:10,040
Speaker 1: things and I'm smoking. I'm too hot. What can I do?

2631
02:51:10,440 --> 02:51:15,840
Speaker 1: He's like taking another cookie? Yo, I'm missed. I missed.

2632
02:51:16,560 --> 02:51:18,560
Speaker 1: He's just kind of like three or four times a week.

2633
02:51:19,280 --> 02:51:20,880
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. I think it was four or

2634
02:51:20,920 --> 02:51:26,000
Speaker 1: five yo. Yo. My first date with my wife was

2635
02:51:26,200 --> 02:51:28,920
Speaker 1: like a big I'm taking to get something to eat.

2636
02:51:30,640 --> 02:51:32,400
Speaker 1: We're gonna go to big scrib after that. But you

2637
02:51:32,440 --> 02:51:36,760
Speaker 1: feel like a king. Man, feel like a king. How

2638
02:51:36,840 --> 02:51:40,480
Speaker 1: did we get back? I don't smoke that ship. I

2639
02:51:40,520 --> 02:51:43,720
Speaker 1: don't smoke Williams. You know you know our engineering, Okain,

2640
02:51:44,760 --> 02:51:57,040
Speaker 1: don't get mad at what you're doing. Cocaine cocaine has

2641
02:51:57,120 --> 02:51:59,560
Speaker 1: don't do it. I only see whom do coke on

2642
02:51:59,680 --> 02:52:04,280
Speaker 1: face to that's it nine persons, your artists? How the

2643
02:52:04,520 --> 02:52:07,840
Speaker 1: how was it? How was it just you know, um

2644
02:52:08,640 --> 02:52:11,440
Speaker 1: dealing with Rocket Feller Because a lot of people they

2645
02:52:11,520 --> 02:52:14,960
Speaker 1: think it was just Jaye, right, they think it was

2646
02:52:15,040 --> 02:52:19,120
Speaker 1: jay and that's it. But you dealt with with everything

2647
02:52:19,200 --> 02:52:22,960
Speaker 1: as a person that there was inside? How was it

2648
02:52:23,040 --> 02:52:25,880
Speaker 1: dealing with like people are artists like pe craft, artists

2649
02:52:25,920 --> 02:52:29,560
Speaker 1: like a freeway and you know, I mean for me,

2650
02:52:29,640 --> 02:52:31,920
Speaker 1: it was it was natural. They just people from the block.

2651
02:52:32,240 --> 02:52:34,680
Speaker 1: That's who you know, dealt with every day, so probably

2652
02:52:35,040 --> 02:52:37,480
Speaker 1: all the exact way of problems with that. For me,

2653
02:52:37,560 --> 02:52:39,280
Speaker 1: it was just natural. That's why they related to me.

2654
02:52:39,400 --> 02:52:41,800
Speaker 1: That's why everybody gravitated towards me, because I was just

2655
02:52:41,959 --> 02:52:45,720
Speaker 1: like them. That's the fact. What did I tell you?

2656
02:52:46,640 --> 02:52:49,240
Speaker 1: I went to biggest to get you. I knew that.

2657
02:52:49,920 --> 02:52:54,039
Speaker 1: I went to the your d I love you big,

2658
02:52:54,560 --> 02:52:57,480
Speaker 1: I love you big face, Gary, I love you. You

2659
02:52:57,600 --> 02:53:03,680
Speaker 1: came at me way more than that, came to your no,

2660
02:53:03,879 --> 02:53:05,560
Speaker 1: way bigger than I will ever be in my life.

2661
02:53:08,879 --> 02:53:11,880
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be when you rock yeah and I picture

2662
02:53:12,040 --> 02:53:19,119
Speaker 1: and then we're done. Thank y'all so much for I'm

2663
02:53:19,120 --> 02:53:23,440
Speaker 1: gonna be honest. I'm gonna be these big champagne niggers.

2664
02:53:23,640 --> 02:53:25,880
Speaker 1: They did it way before me. I just want to know,

2665
02:53:26,200 --> 02:53:29,480
Speaker 1: did you'll ever see him? The rose like that keep

2666
02:53:29,480 --> 02:53:32,600
Speaker 1: you never seen just s