1 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntire. 2 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:12,320 Speaker 2: What is up, straight Fire? 3 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 3: Quem, It's me Jason MacIntire, Straight Fire for Monday, August 4 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:20,760 Speaker 3: twenty fifth. 5 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 2: Up back baby nice. 6 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:26,440 Speaker 3: So a week off to recharge the old batteries. Oh yeah, 7 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 3: football season cover it up, and I need to recharge 8 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 3: batteries because this week hosting the Herd Coward is out 9 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 3: leading into the NFL season. 10 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:38,520 Speaker 2: He needs a breather, his fifth summer breather. 11 00:00:38,600 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 3: But anyways, that nevertheless kiddingb but it was good to 12 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:45,520 Speaker 3: have a week off. Went to Vegas, made some preseason futures. 13 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 3: I will reveal some of them later. I'll put some 14 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:51,720 Speaker 3: on the The Graham. It was a fascinating week. My 15 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 3: kids started school. I know you don't care deeply about that, 16 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 3: but it is extremely humbling when you sit down and 17 00:00:57,480 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 3: you look and your kid is starting a freshman year 18 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 3: of heights. Cool. I swear it was like five minutes 19 00:01:03,840 --> 00:01:05,479 Speaker 3: ago that I was like, oh, yeah, my kids, he's 20 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 3: gonna be getting out of in elementary school soon. 21 00:01:07,800 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 2: And then boom, here it is, Oh I got a freshman. 22 00:01:10,160 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 3: I think Rob G's known me since my kids were like, 23 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 3: I don't know, I don't believe you think he's met 24 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 3: my kids, but he knew when I moved here I 25 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 3: had kids and he was the producer of the radio 26 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:23,760 Speaker 3: show and my kids were like six and four, you know, 27 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 3: And now it's like, oh my gosh, fourteen and twelve, 28 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 3: and it's just it's crazy and I have to make 29 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:33,320 Speaker 3: it admission. So we have done our best to hold 30 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 3: off no phone, no phone, you could do Apple Watch. Well, 31 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 3: we finally had to cave and got my freshman a phone. 32 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 2: And the only. 33 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 3: Reason is because the school essentially is like, yeah, you 34 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 3: need it. The teachers are essentially telling the kids, you know, 35 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 3: there's group projects you need to communicate, and some of 36 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 3: our stuff's done on these apps. 37 00:01:49,160 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 2: And it's like, well, well, there's no way around it. 38 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 2: You can't just borrow a phone. So we got him 39 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 2: a phone. 40 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 3: The wife and I sat down, this is funny with 41 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 3: the Apple you know, people at the Apple store, and 42 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 3: we were like, listen, this is where we're at, our 43 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 3: kids starting school. 44 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 2: He's getting a phone. 45 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 3: We need you to lock this ish up so he 46 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 3: can't do anything, it can't download anything. We walk out 47 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 3: of there thinking we got it, and my son's like, 48 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:15,359 Speaker 3: oh yeah, I just downloaded this app. 49 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 2: We're like, what the hell you know, it's. 50 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 3: Just one of these are It's tough, it's frustrating, it's NonStop. 51 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:22,359 Speaker 2: But here I am. 52 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:25,079 Speaker 3: So it seems like I didn't miss a whole heck 53 00:02:25,120 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 3: of a lot last week. You know, college football did start, 54 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 3: but it was week zero. There was you know, the 55 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:34,560 Speaker 3: Iowa State game was not terrible. And this coming weekend 56 00:02:34,600 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 3: we have Ohio State Texas, which I'm absolutely fired up about. 57 00:02:38,520 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 3: I cannot wait for that game. We'll do plenty on it, 58 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 3: probably have a guest or two leading into it. I 59 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:47,040 Speaker 3: have not had a fantasy draft yet. I have a 60 00:02:47,080 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 3: few coming up here very short order. My bro had one, 61 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 3: and I kind of advised him on it. If any 62 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 3: of his league mates are listening, sorry, but they did 63 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 3: get upset because it's where people think like, oh, you 64 00:03:00,639 --> 00:03:03,360 Speaker 3: work at sports, you're too good for us in fantasy 65 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 3: we're not doing this. So they kind of rib him, 66 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 3: and when he makes a big. 67 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 2: Run, they're like, oh, this is your brothers dude. 68 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:12,639 Speaker 3: But like I was not totally prepared for his fantasy draft. 69 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 3: I'm getting ready for mine, and this week I rere prepare, 70 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:20,079 Speaker 3: like forty eight hours before and I'll just say fourteen 71 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:23,119 Speaker 3: teams is impossible, and I don't think that's a good idea. 72 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 2: I'll just leave it at that for his league. 73 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:27,239 Speaker 3: But I can tell you this, one guy that ain't 74 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 3: getting drafted in fantasy is Shador Sanders. And listen, it's 75 00:03:32,360 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 3: annoying that we even have to do this. He was 76 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 3: a fifth round pick. Okay, we talked about him in 77 00:03:41,120 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 3: at the. 78 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 2: Draft, leading up to the draft, after the. 79 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 3: Draft in July, in the preseason, we're still talking about 80 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 3: him because what happened over the weekend preseason Game three. 81 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 3: You know, Joe Flacco and Dylan Gabriel do fine in 82 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 3: the first half, Schaduur comes in in the second half, 83 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 3: playing with a bunch of guys who are going to delivering. 84 00:04:02,280 --> 00:04:03,400 Speaker 4: Uber eats or. 85 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 3: Amazon packages in a couple of weeks. And essentially, Shadour 86 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:12,120 Speaker 3: was awful three of six fourteen yards, but worse of all. 87 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 2: He took five sacks. 88 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 3: And essentially the five sacks are what's really really being 89 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 3: scrutinized because obviously the offensive line wasn't there, but he 90 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:28,240 Speaker 3: looked like Caleb Williams playing backyard football at USC and 91 00:04:28,320 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 3: it did not go well. But gets worse. If that's 92 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 3: actually possible, it gets worse. So they get the ball 93 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 3: back two minute drill. Oh hey, Shador, here's your chance, 94 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:42,599 Speaker 3: and Kevin Stefanski pulls Shadoor for Snoop Huntley Tyrone Huntley, 95 00:04:42,600 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 3: who is a veteran, he's twenty seven second stint with 96 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:48,240 Speaker 3: the Browns. It's almost as if Stefanski wanted to get 97 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:51,920 Speaker 3: the win and trusted Huntley because he knows him, he's 98 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:54,840 Speaker 3: been through the system. And of course Huntley leads him 99 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 3: down for the game winning field goal. But everybody's breaking 100 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 3: down the whole will uh stefan full shad Or. 101 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 2: Shadeur gets warming up. 102 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 3: I guess he's riding the bike to get ready to 103 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 3: go back in for the two minute drive, and then 104 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 3: all of a sudden he gets told no, and Shdu 105 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 3: kind of puts his. 106 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 2: Hands up like what what what's going on? 107 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:14,279 Speaker 3: And of course that's great and grab gets a million 108 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 3: views going around, and then Stefansky's got to answer questions 109 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 3: about that, and it's just like it's never ending. And 110 00:05:22,240 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 3: I got a hot take on what I think the 111 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 3: outcome for Shadeur should be. But I'm just gonna go 112 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:33,400 Speaker 3: here like this idea of a celebrity quarterback is just 113 00:05:33,520 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 3: it's it's not gonna it's not gonna work. And this 114 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 3: is why Shaduur fell in the draft. Folks, I'm sure 115 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 3: if you were on social media you saw some of 116 00:05:41,520 --> 00:05:46,640 Speaker 3: the takes. People are losing their minds. It is actually 117 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:52,479 Speaker 3: reminiscent of when Tim Tebow was quarterbacking. Everybody loved Tibo. 118 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 3: They were passionate for Tebou. He just wasn't that guy 119 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 3: at the NFL stage. 120 00:05:58,120 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 2: Now he's a different. 121 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 3: Celebrity because he his parents weren't NFL players or famous, 122 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 3: but people just loved him because he was a legendary 123 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:12,359 Speaker 3: college winner. They were rooting for this tough, gritty white 124 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 3: quarterback who won a lot of college and everybody thought 125 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:17,919 Speaker 3: he's gonna be a great pro. And folks, some of 126 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 3: these takes from people are are they're all making it 127 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 3: like a racial issue. 128 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 2: Oh why would he pull up? What's with the offensive line? 129 00:06:25,200 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 2: It was just a little sad. 130 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:30,120 Speaker 3: And I'm sure you know, if you're in the Cleveland 131 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 3: front office, you don't give a rats ass about what's 132 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 3: happening on social media. But rob which you do care 133 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:39,720 Speaker 3: about is the actual media coming in your building. Before games, 134 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 3: after games, before practice, after pret whatever it is. Asking 135 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:46,600 Speaker 3: about your fifth round pick who's probably gonna start as 136 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 3: the third or fourth quarterback on your depth chart, that 137 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:52,480 Speaker 3: aspect has to get annoying. And someone smart pointed out 138 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:55,960 Speaker 3: how Kevin Stefanski has never had a normal quarterback room. 139 00:06:56,120 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 3: So twenty twenty one, there was Baker Mayfield's kind of injured. 140 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 2: There was the Baker drama member. He tried to play 141 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 2: through the injury. 142 00:07:03,160 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 3: It was a total disaster, a goat, you know what, 143 00:07:06,080 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 3: and they move off of Baker. Then they go and 144 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 3: grab Deshaun Watson, but all of a sudden, he's got 145 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 3: the suspension and he's terrible when he comes back. So 146 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 3: then the next injury, Watson gets hurt. Next season, Watson 147 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 3: gets hurt. Then there's twenty twenty four, Watson's terrible, then 148 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 3: gets hurt again, and now he's got the Shaduur media circus. 149 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 3: So we're going on five years where Kevin Stefanski cannot 150 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:34,720 Speaker 3: have like a normal quarterback existence, and I mean, I 151 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 3: just don't know what to do. 152 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 2: What's the move here? 153 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 154 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 155 00:07:44,080 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: dot Com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to 156 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 1: listen live. 157 00:07:52,760 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 5: I mean, the problem is it looks like the movies 158 00:07:54,360 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 5: they're going to keep all four quarterbacks, which is something 159 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 5: I don't think makes any kind of sense, which is 160 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 5: front off his malp But this whole discourse surrounding Shador 161 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:06,239 Speaker 5: standers has really jumped the shark in the last twenty 162 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 5: four to forty eight hours. You mentioned how he just 163 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 5: had a really rough go of it in his last 164 00:08:11,840 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 5: preseason game on Saturday. You know, so him, I would 165 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 5: have liked to see him get a opporunity the two 166 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 5: many drill. Ideally that had have been great, but he 167 00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 5: did not have what I would consider it to be 168 00:08:20,840 --> 00:08:27,200 Speaker 5: an NFL caliber day on Saturday. And because he has 169 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:31,480 Speaker 5: these sikophants, these you know, cult like following, similar to 170 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:35,680 Speaker 5: Tim Tebow. As you referenced, there were legitimate members of 171 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 5: the media, not like fans, not like people on Twitter, 172 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 5: but legitimate people who work for legitimate websites and outlets 173 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 5: who have real pens and real microphones in their faces, 174 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:50,360 Speaker 5: and they're saying, well, Kevin Stefanski obviously doesn't want to 175 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 5: see Schador sign. You know, that's why he put him 176 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 5: out there with the third string, and you know, four 177 00:08:54,320 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 5: fits of the offensive lineman that he worked with all 178 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:58,319 Speaker 5: got cut on Sunday, So you know, it shows there's 179 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:01,680 Speaker 5: some kind of bias against Shad door standard and it's like, 180 00:09:03,000 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 5: you realize, number one, if I were to play that game, 181 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 5: the idea that the offensive line in front of Shador 182 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 5: standers hates him so much that they don't want to 183 00:09:13,800 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 5: block for him, in itself is an indictment of Sugar Sanders. 184 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:20,839 Speaker 5: Like that that's you know, that's Eddie Martel from the replacements, like, 185 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:22,720 Speaker 5: we hate this guy so much, we're not gonna block 186 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 5: for m. So that's number one. If that's a fabrication, 187 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 5: that's a fairy till that's a movie. Like script number two, 188 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:34,440 Speaker 5: you're suggesting that the coach is going out of his 189 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:38,320 Speaker 5: way to ensure that this guy does not play well. 190 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:43,760 Speaker 5: Do you understand that the coaches get paid to Do 191 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 5: you understand that the coaches have a job to do 192 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:49,199 Speaker 5: as well? And what they don't want to tell you 193 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 5: is something that Pro Football focused let us know early 194 00:09:53,080 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 5: on Sunday just to give you context on what's going 195 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 5: on with Shudor Sanders. His average time to throw in 196 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 5: the prese was five point one to three seconds. What 197 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 5: Jason most good good NFL quarterbacks is anywhere between two 198 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 5: and a half to two and three quarter seconds. 199 00:10:11,600 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 4: Okay. 200 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 5: He was pressured nine out of eleven total dropbacks. Okay 201 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 5: on Saturday. Here's what makes that really frustrating. On those times, 202 00:10:26,600 --> 00:10:29,439 Speaker 5: the pressure only came in the first two and a 203 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:35,640 Speaker 5: half seconds four times. On the flip side, Dylan Gabriel 204 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:41,439 Speaker 5: was pressured four times out of nineteen dropbacks. The pressure 205 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 5: came under two and a half seconds three times, which 206 00:10:45,160 --> 00:10:48,360 Speaker 5: tells you that the problem with Shador Sanders has nothing 207 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 5: to do with the offensive line, nothing to do with 208 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:53,479 Speaker 5: the coaching, nothing to do with some bias against him. 209 00:10:53,720 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 5: It has to do with everything that NFL decision makers 210 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 5: were telling you new was coming out. He holds the 211 00:10:58,800 --> 00:11:02,680 Speaker 5: ball too long, he backs up too much, He's always 212 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:05,240 Speaker 5: looking to see the play open before he really lets 213 00:11:05,240 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 5: it go. Those are real issues that a lot of 214 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 5: young quarterbacks have. Caleb Williams has that issue right now 215 00:11:12,040 --> 00:11:15,640 Speaker 5: in Chicago, and I don't see anybody saying, well, hey, 216 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:17,760 Speaker 5: it's the offensive line, it's Ben Johnson. 217 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 4: That's the reason why why Caleb Williams, can you know. 218 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:23,079 Speaker 5: Get a pass off without getting sacknus because he has 219 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:27,199 Speaker 5: a learning curve to deal with and because he should 220 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:34,120 Speaker 5: door Sanders, He's getting ink coverage podcast like this one 221 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 5: talking about him when the reality is he hasn't looked 222 00:11:37,200 --> 00:11:38,479 Speaker 5: anything like an NFL. 223 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:42,199 Speaker 4: Quarterback so far. I don't know what they're gonna do. 224 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, it feels like Kenny Pickett's hamstring is the only 225 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 3: reason should do or hasn't been traded, or you could 226 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 3: say they trade Kenny Pickett, but rob, let. 227 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:54,560 Speaker 2: Me just float this humor me. 228 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:59,199 Speaker 3: Okay, Okay, So there was an injury to aid and 229 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 3: O'Connell of the raid is fractured. Something out six to 230 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:06,160 Speaker 3: eight weeks, okay, Raiders are set. It started with Geno Smith, 231 00:12:06,160 --> 00:12:09,320 Speaker 3: a veteran who oh, by the way, started out as 232 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 3: a disaster with the Jets. The best or the worst 233 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 3: story I heard was that he was, you know, so 234 00:12:18,200 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 3: cocky and arrogant that he would show up to the 235 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 3: quarterback room in like a bathrobe, like like he just 236 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 3: like literally just rolled out of bed and the coaches 237 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:29,760 Speaker 3: are looking at him like, bro, that's just not how 238 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:33,640 Speaker 3: you act as a professional. And Gino so this is 239 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 3: now a veteran, he's bounced back from early struggles. 240 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:37,959 Speaker 2: He is set. 241 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 3: Nobody's supplanting him in Vegas. Their head coach is Pete Carroll, 242 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 3: a veteran coach, a seventy six year old battle axe 243 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 3: something like that, who is not going to have any 244 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 3: problems commanding the room. If you recall Shaduur Sanders during 245 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:56,679 Speaker 3: the draft process, maybe it was December, January, whatever it was, 246 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 3: he had posted something about Vegas. He drove by the 247 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:05,640 Speaker 3: stadium in Vegas and did some Instagram stories and he 248 00:13:05,720 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 3: was pretty keen on Vegas, according to multiple reports. If 249 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:11,559 Speaker 3: you're the Raiders, do you try to buy low on 250 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 3: Shador Sanders, bring him in as hey developmental backup guy. Now, 251 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 3: the schefter did come out and say they want a 252 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 3: veteran backup, but that's you know, Aid O'Connell wasn't a veteran. 253 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 3: This is right right, right right, So I don't know 254 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:28,080 Speaker 3: if I buy that, But I just wonder, Rob, is 255 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 3: there a world where you say, well, she can we 256 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 3: get him for a seven Browns will take him for 257 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 3: a seventh round pick, and Cleveland then rids themselves of 258 00:13:37,040 --> 00:13:39,320 Speaker 3: the circus. I'll guarantee you the media ain't gonna be 259 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 3: grilling Kevin Stefanski when Shadour's gone right, and then he's 260 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:46,760 Speaker 3: the Raiders problem. And listen, you don't have to worry 261 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:48,560 Speaker 3: about getting on the fild because you ain't not with 262 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 3: Gino Smith healthy. Now if if he is forced to play, 263 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 3: you do have amazing tight end in Bowers. You've got 264 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:58,959 Speaker 3: a great running back in Genty. I don't know, I'm 265 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 3: just bitballing here. What do you think, Rob g wouldn't 266 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 3: would you feel if your Raiders traded by Low on schedule? 267 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 5: I wouldn't hate it. But I actually tweeted about that 268 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:10,319 Speaker 5: on Sunday and it wasn't much door. I said, I 269 00:14:10,320 --> 00:14:12,079 Speaker 5: watched the Raiders end up trading for your Candy Piket 270 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 5: and I hate Anny pick. I don't think he cany 271 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 5: pickt is any good. But to your point, they want, 272 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:18,199 Speaker 5: allegedly want a veteran quarterback and this would kind of 273 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 5: help Cleveland to consolidate the quarterback rub and make them 274 00:14:22,240 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 5: appear smarter than what they really are. As far as 275 00:14:24,360 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 5: Shador Sanders, I wouldn't hate the idea of him as 276 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 5: the backup quarterback because again, you're beginning him dirt cheap. 277 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 5: I just see no scenario where that happens, because they 278 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 5: could have easily drafted him in the fifth round, the 279 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 5: sixth round, and he has that personal relationship with Tom 280 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 5: Brady and that still didn't matter. And this is something 281 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 5: that you've touched on, and I think Albert Breer actually 282 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 5: was the one who said it on the Damn Patrick 283 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 5: Show last week. Shador Sanders fell out of the first 284 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:56,400 Speaker 5: round because of NFL talent issues, right, because he doesn't 285 00:14:56,440 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 5: see the field too well. He's kind of a slow processor. 286 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 5: He's very accurate, he has a good enough arm, he's 287 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 5: a decent enough athlete, but just for NFL purposes, he 288 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:07,360 Speaker 5: does not exhibit what they determined to be first round 289 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 5: quarterback trades, which is fine, right, Like that's the thing. 290 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 5: From then on, it was everything else that lets him 291 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 5: falling from the second round, the third round, the fourth, 292 00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 5: or ultimately the fifth round. And it was because, as 293 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 5: you mentioned, everything he does is going to be a story, 294 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:24,720 Speaker 5: good or bad. So the only situations to me that 295 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:26,720 Speaker 5: would have made sense for him coming out of the 296 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:29,720 Speaker 5: NFL draft would have been either a to go to 297 00:15:29,760 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 5: a team like Cleveland where there is no established quarterback 298 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 5: where it's like, hey, an open competition. If this guy's 299 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:36,640 Speaker 5: as good as you think he is, then he can 300 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 5: win this job outright, or you go somewhere where the 301 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 5: quarterback is so good and so established that there is 302 00:15:44,520 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 5: no question no matter what should do or Sanders does 303 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:49,800 Speaker 5: in the preseason, this guy is our quarterback. Patrick Mahomes 304 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 5: is not getting benched in favor of George Sanders. Josh 305 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:54,200 Speaker 5: Allen's not getting betch. Jo Burrow's not getting benched. You know, 306 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 5: a Jared Goff is not getting benched. Gino Smith. As 307 00:15:57,480 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 5: much as I'm a big fan of visiting a huge 308 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 5: upgrade in Vegas from what we had last year, I 309 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:04,440 Speaker 5: would not consider Geno Smith to be one of those 310 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:08,200 Speaker 5: guys where it's like, hey, if he has a stretch 311 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 5: where they go zero to three and he has one 312 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 5: touchdown five picks, we can't betch Gino Smith, you know, 313 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 5: because he's you know, he's a our starter, and that 314 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 5: is on the table for the Raiders. You have a 315 00:16:20,400 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 5: new offense, new offensive coordinator, Gino Kelly Baby. Gino Smith 316 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 5: had had some issues last season, you know, where you 317 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 5: got into a little gunslinger mode, especially in the red zone. 318 00:16:29,440 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 5: Where he was kind of fitting it where you shouldn't 319 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 5: supposed to, and you know you don't want to have 320 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 5: that on the table, right Eightan O'Connell is a non 321 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 5: threatening guy. Kenny Pickett is a non threatening guy. 322 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:40,240 Speaker 2: Whoever they like. 323 00:16:40,280 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 5: Carson Wentz, who got signed on study, is a non 324 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:44,960 Speaker 5: threatening guy. Shador Sanders, because of his fan base, is 325 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:48,280 Speaker 5: a threat to anybody in quarterback. So I don't really 326 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 5: see that one happening with Vegas. 327 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:55,000 Speaker 2: You know, it's interesting you bring up opportunities. So the 328 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:56,200 Speaker 2: Colts named. 329 00:16:57,760 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 3: Anthony Richardson the backup, and Daniel Jones has won the 330 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 3: starting job. Daniel Jones was in Minnesota even after Sam 331 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 3: Darlad move on. Daniel Jones must have seen, oh, just 332 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 3: McCarthy kid is good, or McCarthy and O'Connell have a relationship. 333 00:17:12,400 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna have a shot. Let me go elsewhere. 334 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:18,080 Speaker 3: He identified the Colts as a great landing spot and 335 00:17:18,119 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 3: Stiken's smart and Richardson, you know, Daniel Jones wins the job. 336 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:22,400 Speaker 4: Smart move. 337 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:24,919 Speaker 2: You're right that. 338 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 3: I don't know if there's a great spot for Shador, 339 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:30,120 Speaker 3: but Cleveland theoretically should have been a good one, right, 340 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 3: I mean it should have, but it didn't quite pan out. 341 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 3: I'm not saying it's over over because you never know, 342 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:40,719 Speaker 3: guys get hurt, whatever. But I will say the New 343 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:44,400 Speaker 3: York Giants look kind of smart given their uh their 344 00:17:44,440 --> 00:17:48,479 Speaker 3: situ defeated in the preseason. And Jackson Dart, who you know, 345 00:17:49,600 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 3: marck the Giants for taking him. He was as as 346 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:54,080 Speaker 3: good as any rookie quarterback in the preseason. 347 00:17:54,080 --> 00:17:56,639 Speaker 2: I'll tell you this. He certainly looked better than whatever 348 00:17:56,680 --> 00:17:58,880 Speaker 2: the Saints are trotting out. Oh my said, team looks 349 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 2: terrible than anything. The Browns have Jackson Dart and again 350 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 2: it's working with Dabole. The numbers are great. 351 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:08,159 Speaker 3: I identified this early guys, but he met with the 352 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 3: media and was like using, what's your name? Okay, Joe, Joe, Yeah, okay, 353 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 3: and like the media left him. He had an instant rapport. 354 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:18,080 Speaker 3: There was no combativeness, there was no like question. They 355 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:22,680 Speaker 3: liked him and Jackson Dart. He ain't gonna start the season, 356 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 3: but I will say this, I will be surprised if 357 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 3: he's not on the field before Halloween. I just feel 358 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:33,919 Speaker 3: like Russell Wilson not quite that guy anymore. And I 359 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:35,800 Speaker 3: think Brian Dabele is going to be grasping and Strauss 360 00:18:35,800 --> 00:18:38,200 Speaker 3: to save his job. I think, Jae, if you give 361 00:18:38,200 --> 00:18:40,400 Speaker 3: me an over under, when will Jackson Dart start a game? 362 00:18:40,480 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 3: I would say before Halloween? Would you go before or after? 363 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:47,480 Speaker 5: I'll go well before Halloween. Oh okay, I could see 364 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 5: him starting, you know, by October first. You know they 365 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 5: start off one in three, two and two, and Russ 366 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 5: just kind of looks like the rest that we saw 367 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:55,880 Speaker 5: at the Enn in Pittsburgh. 368 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:57,359 Speaker 4: Where he's moonball or bust. 369 00:18:57,440 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 5: Then then I get told these that happening, and I'm 370 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 5: actually glad you brought the New York Giants. 371 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 372 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:08,000 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 373 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 1: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to 374 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:13,000 Speaker 1: listen live. 375 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:16,400 Speaker 5: It's well documented that basically every year there's a team 376 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:19,000 Speaker 5: that goes worse to first, right. Since twenty two, twenty 377 00:19:19,040 --> 00:19:21,679 Speaker 5: five teams have done that, right, so basically more than 378 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 5: one a year it happens too. And I'm doing this 379 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 5: thought exercise on Friday ahead of the Oddo Couple Show, 380 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:29,919 Speaker 5: which I actually filled in co hosting apparently did a 381 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 5: terrible job. I'm getting rip on YouTube about it. 382 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:33,680 Speaker 2: That's fun. 383 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 5: But anyways, so there's eight teams this year that are eligible. 384 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 5: The Bears, the Browns, the Raiders, the Patriots, the Saints, 385 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:43,120 Speaker 5: the Giants, the Niners, and the Titans. And anytime you're 386 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:45,680 Speaker 5: trying to project something like this, I've always found it's 387 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 5: less about the team that you're picking and more about 388 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 5: the situation around them. 389 00:19:50,520 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 4: Right. 390 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:53,440 Speaker 5: So, I'm a Raider fan. I would have loved to 391 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 5: pick the Raiders go worse to first. The reality is 392 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 5: there's three ten win plus teams ahead of them, so 393 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:01,160 Speaker 5: you would need a lot lot of people to fall 394 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 5: back to the pack for you to have a chance 395 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 5: to leap frog three teams, right, Like, that's really tricky. 396 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:09,760 Speaker 4: Similar situation, I believe with the Bears. 397 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 5: You know, the Bears have the Lions, the Vikings, the Packers, 398 00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:14,640 Speaker 5: all those teams I think want at least twelve games 399 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,800 Speaker 5: last year, and so you know, to have one team 400 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:19,879 Speaker 5: fall back, sure, but to have two or three is 401 00:20:19,960 --> 00:20:23,720 Speaker 5: really really tricky. And similar thing with the Niners. Like 402 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:26,160 Speaker 5: the Niners, everyone was picking them because you know, Christian 403 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:28,679 Speaker 5: McCaffrey's back, and they got Georgia Kittle and Brock Purty 404 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:31,160 Speaker 5: looks like he's back, and you know they can't possibly 405 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 5: be having the same kind of injury luck this year 406 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 5: they had last year. Again, the Rams and the Seahawks 407 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 5: both won double digit games last year, So you're asking 408 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:41,040 Speaker 5: for a lot of things to go wrong for you 409 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:44,120 Speaker 5: to go worse to first. And that's why I settled 410 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:47,119 Speaker 5: on the New York Football Giants. Oh, come on, and 411 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:48,800 Speaker 5: the reason being, I don't know if you saw this 412 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 5: article come out on Friday on CBS Sports. You mentioned 413 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,399 Speaker 5: the Giants aren defeating the preseason the point differential of 414 00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:56,560 Speaker 5: plus sixty. They're the eight teams to two thousand and 415 00:20:56,640 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 5: nine to do that in the preseason. Of the previous seven, 416 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:04,880 Speaker 5: six of them made the playoffs. Two of them went 417 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:05,960 Speaker 5: on to win the Super Bowl. 418 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:07,080 Speaker 2: Wait, wait one more time. 419 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 5: Six of the seven made the player Six of the 420 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 5: previous seven to have a point differential of plus sixty 421 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:17,040 Speaker 5: or higher in the preseason went on to make the playoffs. 422 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 5: Two of those six won the Super Bowl. The average 423 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:24,399 Speaker 5: win total for a team that had a plus sixty 424 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:31,800 Speaker 5: preseason differential is eleven wins a season. So by process 425 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 5: of elimination, you look at the New York Giants you 426 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:36,920 Speaker 5: mentioned I believe their front four is the best. 427 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 4: Front FOIGN football point play period between. 428 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 5: Thibodeau and I think Abdua Carter was the best player 429 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:41,920 Speaker 5: in the draft last season. 430 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:43,400 Speaker 4: Right, Their defense should be good. 431 00:21:43,720 --> 00:21:47,879 Speaker 5: Malik Nahbors is a stud if their quarterback, and I 432 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 5: think Jackson Dart. 433 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:50,680 Speaker 4: Has been a revelation in this preseason. 434 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 5: Like I would get a lot to talk about shudst Sanders, 435 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:54,240 Speaker 5: it should be about Jackson Dart because he has been 436 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 5: otherworldly in this preseason. I think he's completely almost sevent 437 00:21:57,680 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 5: percent of his passes during his seventy yards three touchdow 438 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,959 Speaker 5: no picks, also another fifty yards rushing in a touchdown 439 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 5: on the ground. So you consider all of that, and 440 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 5: then you look at the surrounding in that division. Obviously 441 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,960 Speaker 5: you got the Eagles at worst. I think they slide 442 00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:15,359 Speaker 5: back to a wild card no matter if it's the 443 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:16,879 Speaker 5: Giants or anybody. I just think because they're such a 444 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:20,440 Speaker 5: good team that loaded. The Cowboys are a weld documented 445 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 5: dumpster fire between Michael Parsons and the head coach Schattenheimer 446 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:26,919 Speaker 5: doesn't look like any kind of control. And then with 447 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,680 Speaker 5: the Washington Commanders, which is the popular pick for popular people, 448 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 5: Everybody loves the Washington Commanders because Jayden Daniels is the monster, 449 00:22:33,000 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 5: and I think long term, jay and Daniels is going 450 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:38,719 Speaker 5: to be in that upper upper tier of quarterback. But 451 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:42,119 Speaker 5: the reality is when you look at their team, Jayden 452 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:47,360 Speaker 5: Daniels beat one top ten defense last year. He beat 453 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:50,240 Speaker 5: eight that were in the bottom ten defense last year. 454 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 5: Here's the list of quarterbacks that the Redskins beat. Ors 455 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 5: you mean the Commanders beat last year? Trey Lance, Michael Panics, 456 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 5: Kenny pick At, Spencer Ratler, Will Levis, Caleb Williams, Shawn Watson, 457 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 5: Kyler Murray, Joe Burrow, Daniel Jones twice. So other than 458 00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:08,480 Speaker 5: Joe Burrow, who on that list do you feel like, Oh, snap, 459 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:10,800 Speaker 5: I can't believe they beat that guy. I can't believe 460 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 5: they really went on the road or in a third 461 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 5: quarter game they went and beat that guy. No, of 462 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 5: course not and last, but not least, you look at 463 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 5: the Commanders and their strength of schedule last season. I 464 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 5: mentioned they played bad defenses. I mentioned they played bad quarterbacks. 465 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:29,320 Speaker 5: The Washington Commanders in twenty twenty four had the lowest 466 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:35,479 Speaker 5: strength of schedule in the NFL. Combined the teams they 467 00:23:35,560 --> 00:23:40,680 Speaker 5: played had a four to thirty win percentage. 468 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,840 Speaker 4: Okay, this is. 469 00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 5: Something that we really got to consider when you're talking 470 00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 5: about worse to first. And it's a big reason why 471 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 5: I could see a scenario where the New York Football 472 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 5: Giants with Jackson Dart not Russell Wilson at quarterback, find 473 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 5: a way to go eleven and five or Tim eleven 474 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:01,359 Speaker 5: and six, twelve and five when it's highbreaker with the 475 00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 5: Eagles and they're the worst the first team in five. 476 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:05,320 Speaker 2: That is passionate. 477 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:08,119 Speaker 3: I don't understand how you're saying you're not good at 478 00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 3: this thing. That that's a fire take. I just have 479 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 3: to say that I completely, one thousand percent disagree with it. Yeah, well, 480 00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:19,639 Speaker 3: we have Warren Sharp on last week he said they 481 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:22,920 Speaker 3: have the hardest schedule in the league. Listen, maybe they 482 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 3: are able to surprise Washington or Dallas in the first 483 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 3: two weeks. They'll need one of those two because after 484 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:30,400 Speaker 3: that they host the Chiefs and then they host the Chargers. 485 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 3: But nevertheless, it's interesting that this is why Rob's good 486 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,879 Speaker 3: at it. I was so surprised at that six of 487 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 3: the seven made the playoffs, but he went by point 488 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:44,640 Speaker 3: differential because the other thing the Giants are is undefeated 489 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 3: in the preseason. So I went to chat gipt, and 490 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:51,040 Speaker 3: we know chatchipts not always reliable. That's a good starting point. 491 00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:53,200 Speaker 3: So I asked, chatchipt, can you give me a list 492 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 3: in the last twenty years of teams that went undefeated 493 00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:59,360 Speaker 3: in the preseason now wait for it, but also had 494 00:24:59,400 --> 00:25:02,160 Speaker 3: a season win total under seven. 495 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 2: So they were projected to be bad, but they shocked 496 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:05,680 Speaker 2: everybody and were great. 497 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:09,480 Speaker 4: Okay, we go, here we go. 498 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,480 Speaker 3: So the two thousand and eight Detroit Lions preseason four 499 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:14,399 Speaker 3: and o and they went. 500 00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 2: Oh to sixteen in the regular season. 501 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:21,399 Speaker 3: Goddamn twenty seventeen Browns four to o preseason they also 502 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 3: went Now that I did not see Coby twenty nineteen 503 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:29,040 Speaker 3: Giants four and no preseason. I think that was pre dable, 504 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure. And they went four and twelve. And 505 00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 3: there's two more. The Bears in twenty twenty two went 506 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,879 Speaker 3: three and oh remember the excitement, Oh my gosh, Bears, Bears. 507 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 3: They went three and fourteen with justin Fields. And finally, 508 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 3: the twenty twenty three Washington Commanders went three and oh 509 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 3: in the preseason. 510 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 2: They went four and thirteen. 511 00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 3: So none of those those teams that went undefeated last 512 00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:55,399 Speaker 3: twenty years sniffed their win total, and that to me 513 00:25:55,560 --> 00:26:00,679 Speaker 3: is terrifying on multiple fronts. That being said, listen, you 514 00:26:00,760 --> 00:26:03,359 Speaker 3: got MyLink neighbors, You're gonna be spicy. You got that 515 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 3: defensive front, you're gonna be plucky. So I mean in 516 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 3: Dables coaching for his job, so I expect him to 517 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 3: be in his bag here. I don't hate Tyrone Tracy 518 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 3: the running back. I don't know if you had a 519 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 3: fancy draft. I don't dislike him at all. The offensive 520 00:26:17,960 --> 00:26:20,400 Speaker 3: line cannot be as bad as it was. I think, 521 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,400 Speaker 3: you know, maybe there's some value in the Giants if 522 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,119 Speaker 3: you are curious, what ta you know? 523 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:29,880 Speaker 2: We love Ta my guy. He had the Giants going. 524 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:34,159 Speaker 3: Three and fourteen, so not great, not great for robbgi 525 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 3: Real quick before we wrap up, so I said, I 526 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 3: went to Vegas obviously. 527 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 2: Week one college football. 528 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,080 Speaker 3: I did lay a little lumber on the Buckeyes minus 529 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:48,479 Speaker 3: two and a half in the opener against Arch, and 530 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 3: I laid a little number on Notre Dame minus two 531 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,439 Speaker 3: and a half against Carson Beck and Miami kind of 532 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 3: sort of loaded up. I'm feeling real good, I am. 533 00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:03,160 Speaker 3: If you missed the David Baker interview doing partial shares 534 00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:05,760 Speaker 3: of his Survivor team. He's only going to do one entry. 535 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:08,479 Speaker 3: I highly recommend reaching out to him if you're interested 536 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 3: in want to just have some fun. 537 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:10,920 Speaker 2: I will be kicking in somebody. 538 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 3: I'm not gonna say how much here, but I said, 539 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:15,120 Speaker 3: I need you to price it out, and if you win, 540 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:17,800 Speaker 3: I need to know what you know. Let's say I 541 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 3: did one hundred dollars, that's not going to get you anywhere. 542 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 3: But if you did five hundred, one thousand, two thousand, 543 00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 3: whatever it is, and it's it's a fun sweat. 544 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 2: I will say. 545 00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,639 Speaker 3: One of the highlights going to Vegas is when you 546 00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,359 Speaker 3: show up with your tickets from last season on Futures. 547 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 2: Rob you hand it to the lady. 548 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 3: She puts them through the machine and then shows you 549 00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,200 Speaker 3: a number and then it says here's the cash that 550 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:40,200 Speaker 3: you win back. They hand it to you and you're like, oh, 551 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:43,119 Speaker 3: thank you, and then you turn around and sign up 552 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:46,080 Speaker 3: for the Survivor contest and you pay them with their money, 553 00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:47,720 Speaker 3: which is which is always fun. 554 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:48,639 Speaker 2: So it was it was good year. 555 00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 3: Last year in Futures I did do a couple of 556 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 3: those Super Bowl long shots X to beat why we'll 557 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:55,720 Speaker 3: talk about them during the week, But I gotta say 558 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 3: some stuff. I can't unload everything on a Monday. We 559 00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 3: are back Moneyana. It's gonna be a fun. Gosh, it's 560 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 3: good to be back. 561 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,680 Speaker 2: Football is almost here, Ladies and germs, see tomorrow.