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Speaker 1: And welcome in Lake Kick is live.

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Speaker 2: It is Thursday night, January twenty seventh, the year of

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Speaker 2: Our Lord, twenty twenty two.

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Speaker 1: Where is Jackson Dark right now? Caleb Williams, where are

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Speaker 1: you at?

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Speaker 2: Will you be in the same place by the time

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Speaker 2: this live broadcast goes off the air that you.

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Speaker 1: Are right now?

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Speaker 2: Probably not, but we're gonna make sense of whatever we

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Speaker 2: can make sense up tonight. We are jam packed. We

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Speaker 2: are high at top downtown Nashville, Tennessee. We are a

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Speaker 2: mere twenty four some odd hours coming off of our

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Speaker 2: final five star reveal show here at twenty four seven Sports,

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Speaker 2: and we are what seven days from yesterday?

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Speaker 3: So a week from yesterday, we are just around the

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Speaker 3: corner from our national Signing Day show. The reason I

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Speaker 3: paused is because I just realized yesterday I said nine days.

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Speaker 3: I thought yesterday was Monday the whole day. I don't

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Speaker 3: know why that was the case.

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Speaker 2: But anyway, there's a lot of talk about recruiting right now,

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Speaker 2: and you know, we don't do individual recruit breakdowns on

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Speaker 2: the show as much, but I do have something to

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Speaker 2: address tonight. There are a lot of allegations flying around,

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Speaker 2: and there have been.

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Speaker 1: For quite a while.

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Speaker 2: Basically since Nick Saban came to Alabama, there's been this allegation.

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Speaker 2: And you know good and well what the phrase is.

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Speaker 2: It is Bama bump, It's Bama bias. And then you

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Speaker 2: got the Bama bump. The Bama bump is a noun.

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Speaker 2: It is an actual thing allegedly that takes place in

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Speaker 2: the recruiting world. Well, look, am I employed by CBS

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Speaker 2: and twenty four seven Sports. Yes I am am. I

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Speaker 2: a mouthpiece for the company. If they pay me enough tonight,

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Speaker 2: will I be No?

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Speaker 1: I will not. So you and I will investigate together

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Speaker 1: and if big, if, if we.

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Speaker 2: Find evidence, I'm calling the company out. We'll do that

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Speaker 2: mere moments from now. We will also talk about the

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Speaker 2: latest in the transfer portal. There are rumors, we are

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Speaker 2: well aware of them about Jackson Dart. Where's he been

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Speaker 2: admitted to? Where will he enroll? Has he already enrolled?

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Speaker 2: Is he waiting on someone else to make a decision?

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Speaker 2: Three thousand miles away? All of that we will try

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Speaker 2: and unpack as best we can here with our very

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Speaker 2: determined crew on late kick. We'll do that about fifteen

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Speaker 2: minutes from now. Also, the Tennessee Mood Tracker rolls on.

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Speaker 2: The Mood Tracker series is getting a ton of push

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Speaker 2: from you guys, and so we may not even limit

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Speaker 2: it to just one program per show. We may bump

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Speaker 2: it up to two programs per show. I was talking

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Speaker 2: to a player at Missouri today. He said, I listen

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Speaker 2: to every show. Why haven't you done a Missouri Mood

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Speaker 2: Tracker yet. Well, it is in the cards, so obviously

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Speaker 2: we're gonna have to bump it up from just one

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Speaker 2: a show. Also, we've got Q and A, and I

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Speaker 2: got a special Q and A. I'm going to ask

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Speaker 2: the question which defeats the whole purpose of viewer Q

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Speaker 1: But you'll see why it makes sense at the end

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Speaker 1: of the show.

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Speaker 2: At Late Kick, Josh got to make sure you're following

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Speaker 2: on the social platforms. Aside from the obvious reasons, there

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Speaker 2: are some new things happening with the show. Every now

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Speaker 2: and then i'll ask your opinion on something. And as

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Speaker 2: you know, a couple of weeks ago, I said, if

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Speaker 2: I had my way about it, I would just record

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Speaker 2: the Late Kick Extra podcast in my dark and empty

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Speaker 2: apartment bedroom early in the morning on Wednesdays, and I

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Speaker 2: would send it off to producer Jordan, and that'd be that.

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Speaker 2: But a lot of you had been asking for more.

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Speaker 2: And what I told our crew was, let's wait. Let's

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Speaker 2: see if our numbers really fade after the season ends,

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Speaker 2: we get into irregular season, what the casuals would call

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Speaker 2: an off season, and I said, if they leave, then

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Speaker 2: we're not going to give them anymore. But if they stay,

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Speaker 2: we're going to give them exactly what they asked for.

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Speaker 2: We you've stayed, our numbers have been about a three

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Speaker 1: So you haven't gone anywhere.

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Speaker 2: And as I promised you, if you don't go anywhere,

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Speaker 2: we're going to keep the same energy until spring practice.

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Speaker 1: Post spring practice.

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Speaker 2: Well, what that means for the Extra podcast is we're

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Speaker 2: putting a video product on it. Now, if you just

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Speaker 2: listen to the pod, nothing's going to change. But if

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Speaker 2: you went to the twenty four to seven Sports YouTube

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Speaker 2: channel today, you probably saw a couple of new looking videos,

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Speaker 2: to be a fixture there. Now, you need to let

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Speaker 2: let me know what kind of tweaks you want, because essentially,

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Speaker 2: you guys are the executive producers there. We're just kind

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Speaker 2: of the mice on the wheel and we are following direction.

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Speaker 2: So make sure you're following because a lot of times

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Speaker 2: I don't share all this on the show, but you

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Speaker 2: will get all the details. And it's a great way

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Speaker 2: to get in touch with me at Late Kick Josh Twitter,

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Speaker 1: So that's enough of that.

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Speaker 2: Okay, a little investigation I took it upon myself to

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Speaker 2: conduct earlier today, Colin, this is probably your endpoint here.

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Speaker 2: So yesterday we did the final five star reveal show

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Speaker 2: here at twenty four to seven Sports. Chris Singletary was

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Speaker 2: on the show. Cooper Protagna was on the show. We've

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Speaker 2: got a cast of thousands behind the scenes and they

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Speaker 2: are responsible for everything from editing film of high school

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Speaker 1: Now there is an allegation, it's a dirty one.

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Speaker 2: But listen, we got to peel the band aid off tonight,

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Speaker 2: even though I work for this company, not for the

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Speaker 2: And so dutifully we went to work for you the

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Speaker 2: our entire company. And I did not ask for permission,

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Speaker 2: because we will ask for forgiveness later. But to be clear,

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Speaker 2: here's the allegation has to do with Alabama, and the

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Speaker 1: The Bama bump is very simply this.

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Speaker 2: There are wide swaths of the college football public that

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Speaker 2: And what was once a four star is now a

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Speaker 1: And so I went to dig in a little bit.

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Speaker 2: right now, because now I want to be real with

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Speaker 2: you for a second. You had me with this for

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Speaker 1: And I would do just like some of you.

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Speaker 2: I would anecdotally pick out an example, and I would

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Speaker 2: I dug I did my own research. I encourage you

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Speaker 1: Data logic tended to get in the way.

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Speaker 2: Certainly on field results got in the way. The NFL

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Speaker 2: draft was a real you know what. Against this argument,

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Speaker 2: also the entire concept of Nick Saban. You know, if

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Speaker 2: that's the best of all time, you have to allow

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Speaker 2: there to be in the equation the possibility that Nick

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Speaker 2: Saban's evaluations are ahead of the recruiting industry that has

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Speaker 2: if even fractions of the respect you have for this

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Speaker 1: He knows how to evaluate talent.

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Speaker 2: And he's got an entire army up there working to

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Speaker 2: evaluate talent. And if you don't know, well, I'll tell

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Speaker 2: you he does each and every one of their evows personally.

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Speaker 2: who's already been evowed and they say, coach, we need

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Speaker 2: your permission to offer this guy. He's doing the evow

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Speaker 2: view could just be that Nick Saban's evowls get ahead

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Speaker 1: Else in college football? Do you know what that actually means?

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Speaker 2: Legitimate argument the classes may be underrated. Now, let me

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Speaker 1: Something like this.

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Speaker 2: We got this kid here and he checks this box,

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Speaker 2: point have a serious talk with her about why we

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Speaker 2: only shop at Academy.

438
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Speaker 1: Now she's fully on board. Here are the receipts to

439
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Speaker 1: prove it.

440
00:19:48,640 --> 00:19:51,720
Speaker 2: At which point he sent me pictures of receipts to

441
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Speaker 2: prove that the Brave's Championship merchandise was indeed purchased at

442
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Speaker 2: Academy Sports and Outdoors. We've got a big announcement coming

443
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Speaker 2: about to me Sports and Outdoors in the very near future.

444
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Speaker 1: We're not going to do it tonight. I want to

445
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Speaker 1: be properly equipped.

446
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Speaker 2: But things are going very well between us and Academy

447
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Speaker 2: Sports and Outdoors. We are ready to take our relationship

448
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Speaker 2: to the next level. And really all this concerns is me,

449
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Speaker 2: Academy and you guys. So that's the relationship. It's a

450
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Speaker 2: very tight knit relationship. But they have thoroughly enjoyed the

451
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Speaker 2: partnership with us. We have, of course enjoyed the partnership

452
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Speaker 2: with them. If you're new to the pod, or if

453
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Speaker 2: you've been here every step of the way, I just

454
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Speaker 2: want to reiterate you continue to make this possible, and

455
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Speaker 2: all we ask you to do, very humbly, is take

456
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Speaker 2: the stuff that you're already going to purchase for your

457
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Speaker 2: life anyway, and just do it through Academy Sports and Outdoors.

458
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Speaker 2: They are the reason why we don't have to have

459
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Speaker 2: a show full of ad breaks. But they're also the

460
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Speaker 2: reason why you can have access to one entity that

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Speaker 2: you know shares mutual interest with you, and number two

462
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Speaker 2: carries anything you need warm weather gear, cold weather gear, baseball, basketball, football,

463
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Speaker 2: whatever the case may be.

464
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Speaker 1: They of course have everything you need.

465
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Speaker 2: But also they don't have to be in your town

466
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Speaker 2: because Academy dot Com takes care of all your online

467
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Speaker 2: shopping needs that you're in person shopping cannot take care of.

468
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Speaker 1: So all I'm trying to tell you is be more

469
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Speaker 1: like Maurice.

470
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Speaker 2: It's probably the last time I'll ever give you that

471
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Speaker 2: piece of advice, knowing who I'm talking about, But be

472
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Speaker 2: more like Maurice, and for that matter, be more like

473
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Speaker 2: Maurice's mom. Shop at Academy Sports and Outdoors. Do yourself

474
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Speaker 2: a favor, and do the show a favor in the process.

475
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Speaker 2: The transfer portal's on fire.

476
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Speaker 1: Did you know that.

477
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Speaker 2: If you didn't, I'm here to warn you. The transfer

478
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Speaker 2: portal is on fire. Caleb Williams, as of airtime tonight,

479
00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:42,040
Speaker 2: still has not made a final decision. But what's interesting

480
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Speaker 2: is we've been talking about that January twenty eighth drop

481
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Speaker 2: ad date for.

482
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Speaker 1: Classes out at USC.

483
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Speaker 2: There's some debate as to how hard that date is,

484
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Speaker 2: but there were speculations and rumors floating around LA still

485
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Speaker 2: are that today or tomorrow was kind of going to

486
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Speaker 2: be when USC found out something one way or the

487
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Speaker 2: other about Caleb Williams had a bad hiccup there. So

488
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Speaker 2: over the past seventy two hours, there was a little

489
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Speaker 2: bit of smoke about Wisconsin. Now you'll remember what would

490
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Speaker 2: about two weeks ago on the show this show, we

491
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Speaker 2: mentioned Wisconsin. I got to be real with you. My

492
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Speaker 2: strategy was not to call our shot. My strategy, as

493
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Speaker 2: I told producer Jesse, was to just have something in

494
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Speaker 2: the can. This sounds a little bit slimy, but I

495
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Speaker 2: just wanted something in the can so that if on

496
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Speaker 2: the off chance Caleb Williams committed to Wisconsin, we could

497
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Speaker 2: go in our bag and we could say called it.

498
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Speaker 2: Now everyone would understand it was kind of sarcastic, But

499
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Speaker 2: it turns out, yeah, there was a little smoke there.

500
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Speaker 2: We don't know how much smoke. We know that there

501
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Speaker 2: are some family relationships and acquaintances and connections with the

502
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Speaker 2: supposed offensive coordinator that they have hired Slash or hiring.

503
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Speaker 2: So yeah, there is there's a little more there than

504
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Speaker 2: meets the eye. And I selfishly, now if you want

505
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Speaker 2: my rooting interest here, and most of you, if you're

506
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Speaker 2: not a USC fan, I think most people would be

507
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Speaker 2: rooting for something like that to happen, like Russell Wilson

508
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Speaker 2: did once upon a time. But I would have to

509
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Speaker 2: say USC is still the odds on favorite now. I

510
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Speaker 2: was over on the peristyle earlier. It's the USC message

511
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Speaker 2: board here at twenty four seven Sports, and I knew

512
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Speaker 2: this was coming.

513
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Speaker 1: You could have predicted this if.

514
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Speaker 2: Kayleb Williams did not immediately leave Oklahoma, do his due

515
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Speaker 2: diligence in about a week and a week and a

516
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Speaker 2: half and then commit to USC Lincoln Riley, you were

517
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Speaker 2: going to get some folks who got upset because this

518
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Speaker 2: kid is not working on my timeline. We've avoided that

519
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Speaker 2: on this show, but I know some of our USC

520
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Speaker 2: brethren are very antsy because right now it is January

521
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Speaker 2: twenty seventh, we're trying to get ready to kick off

522
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Speaker 2: spring practice in like a month, and you know, in

523
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Speaker 2: an ideal world, yes, you would like to know who

524
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Speaker 2: your starting quarterback is going to be.

525
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Speaker 1: Remains to be seen.

526
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Speaker 2: We can confidently report that USC has been slaughtering the

527
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Speaker 2: transfer portal outside of Kayleb Williams, but as of tonight,

528
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Speaker 2: we don't know anything more about Kayleb Williams. That's not

529
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Speaker 2: even the juiciest bit of speculation about transfer portal quarterbacks

530
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Speaker 2: even in the last four hours or so. So right now,

531
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Speaker 2: depending on where you get your old Miss news from,

532
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Speaker 2: you are probably seeing some people out there report that

533
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Speaker 2: Jackson Dart has been accepted into Old Miss. There is

534
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Speaker 2: some speculation out there that he has enrolled. We can't

535
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Speaker 2: confirm that, at least we have not confirmed that.

536
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Speaker 1: Now.

537
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Speaker 2: I've been in the studio twenty minutes, so maybe outside

538
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Speaker 2: in the real world out the door, maybe a lot's

539
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Speaker 2: changed in the past twenty minutes. Chris Hummer, who works

540
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Speaker 2: for us here at twenty four seven Sports, I would

541
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Speaker 2: highly advise you to follow him on this whole situation.

542
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Speaker 2: I don't think he's a guy who is going to

543
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Speaker 2: be scooped on this, meaning when there's something solid to

544
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,960
Speaker 2: report based on what I know about what he knows

545
00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:48,879
Speaker 2: about all this, I think that's going to be the

546
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 2: guy you want to be following this morning he put

547
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Speaker 2: in a crystal ball. I think it may be yesterday

548
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:58,119
Speaker 2: put in a crystal ball for Jackson Dart to Old Miss.

549
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Speaker 1: And I can.

550
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Speaker 2: Tell you that really up the way that we felt

551
00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 2: about this, thanks in part to his reporting on the

552
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Speaker 2: issue that they are the overwhelming favorite at Ole Miss

553
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Speaker 2: to land Jackson Dart. Has it happened, maybe not as

554
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Speaker 2: of yet. Michael Trigg, the tight end who seems to

555
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Speaker 2: be attached to the hip with Jackson Dart. I think

556
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Speaker 2: probably if you have a rumor about Dart, you might

557
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Speaker 2: as well just put Trigg's name in the blank below that.

558
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Speaker 2: Hold on, hold on, Okay, So I just got a

559
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Speaker 2: voice in my ear. That's Jesse talking to me in

560
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Speaker 2: my ear. Chris Hummer just moments ago. We're live. This

561
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Speaker 2: is how live broadcasting works. Put in a crystal ball

562
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Speaker 2: from Michael Trigg to Ole Miss. So even as it

563
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Speaker 2: just comes out of my mouth, we didn't produce it

564
00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:42,119
Speaker 2: this way, but it works out this way that you

565
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:44,480
Speaker 2: can assume those two attached to the hip. That's what

566
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Speaker 2: Chris Hummer kind of all but confirms there. Look, I

567
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Speaker 2: think it's eminent that they both end up at Ole

568
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Speaker 2: Miss if slash when that happens, it is a monstrous

569
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Speaker 2: piece to Lane Kiffin's twenty twenty two puzzle because you

570
00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 2: got Matt Carral heading out the door. Luke Altmeyer, as

571
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,840
Speaker 2: it stands right now, would probably be their starter this

572
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,679
Speaker 2: upcoming season. And this is no knock on him, but

573
00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,639
Speaker 2: if you want to advance on the progress that you

574
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Speaker 2: made on the field in twenty twenty one, I think

575
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Speaker 2: most reasonable miss fans would speculate, we're gonna need a

576
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:18,439
Speaker 2: guy the caliber of Jackson Dart to do that. I

577
00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 2: told Colin and Jesse before the show. You know, we

578
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,320
Speaker 2: clip most of this for individual use the next day.

579
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 2: I told him, boys, I highly doubt that by the

580
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Speaker 2: time the sun comes up tomorrow everything that we say

581
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:30,720
Speaker 2: in this particular part of the show is going to

582
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Speaker 2: be relevant. Maybe it will be, but I think that

583
00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 2: this is going to get dated pretty quick because I

584
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:38,919
Speaker 2: think we're going to see action potentially on multiple fronts

585
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Speaker 2: over the next twenty four hours and who knows, maybe

586
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Speaker 2: twelve hours. You got to remember, when we're talking usc

587
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,920
Speaker 2: and we're doing a seven o'clock Central Time show, they're

588
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Speaker 2: just driving home from work. It's eight o'clock on the

589
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:51,840
Speaker 2: East coast. You guys are going to watch the show

590
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:53,200
Speaker 2: and knowing some of you you're about to go to

591
00:26:53,240 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 2: bed after this. They're just driving home from work out there,

592
00:26:55,760 --> 00:26:59,159
Speaker 2: so who knows, still a long night ahead in southern California.

593
00:26:59,280 --> 00:27:01,639
Speaker 2: Now there is a guy that we can definitively just

594
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 2: confirm and get out of the way where he's going,

595
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,360
Speaker 2: and that is Jared Bernard, a converse three names there.

596
00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 2: We were talking about him the other day. He is

597
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,000
Speaker 2: the four year starter from Oklahoma State. He's a corner

598
00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 2: all Big twelve, very very good player, and he entered

599
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 2: the transfer portal. He didn't stay there long. He has

600
00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 2: committed to LSU. This is a monstrous pickup for them

601
00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,399
Speaker 2: because that second corner spot. Those that follow the program

602
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 2: are well aware it was a huge question mark. That

603
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 2: thing was going to be really, really up in the air.

604
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 2: And this is a guy who is essentially a plug

605
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 2: and play. It's kind of like when Georgia picked up

606
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:39,040
Speaker 2: Darien Kendrick. There was no okay, he's going to go

607
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 2: to Georgia and battle for a starting spot. Yeah, the

608
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:44,920
Speaker 2: coaching staff didn't just come right out and say he's

609
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,439
Speaker 2: a starter, nor is Brian Kelly going to come out

610
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 2: and say this guy's a starter, But I on this

611
00:27:50,760 --> 00:27:53,600
Speaker 2: show will come out and say that guy's a starter,

612
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 2: and he's going to be a very, very timely addition

613
00:27:56,760 --> 00:28:00,159
Speaker 2: to the LSU secondary. Now, you watched the style they

614
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,440
Speaker 2: play at Oklahoma State, and there is a stereotype about

615
00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,479
Speaker 2: Big twelve defenses that has just been thrown in the trash.

616
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:09,120
Speaker 2: They're playing really good defense in the Big twelve now,

617
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 2: and that guy was among the reasons that Oklahoma State

618
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:15,199
Speaker 2: in some metrics, had one of the best defenses in

619
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Speaker 2: the country this past year.

620
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,400
Speaker 1: So this is not some woebegone.

621
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:23,320
Speaker 2: Also, ran corner who's got no tread left on his tires,

622
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 2: and the tires really wouldn't go that fast to begin with.

623
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:27,920
Speaker 2: He's a player, He's played a good mixture of zone

624
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,120
Speaker 2: and man. The kind of scheme that they ran under

625
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 2: Jim Knowles there makes him probably very prepared for whatever they're.

626
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 1: Going to run at LSU. So that's a big pick

627
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:36,360
Speaker 1: up there.

628
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:40,760
Speaker 2: Look, the transfer portal is close to winding down until

629
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Speaker 2: after spring, so we're going to do the segments. We're

630
00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 2: going to talk about it on the show as long

631
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 2: as we need to but we're getting close. But obviously

632
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 2: two of the biggest dominos are still out there, so

633
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 2: just keep an eye Caleb Williams, Jackson dart If Slash.

634
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 2: When those taking time bombs there in the transfer portal

635
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 2: go off, we'll talk about it.

636
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 1: It's going to be a big deal, Okay.

637
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 2: The Mood Tracker rolls on tonight, and I just keep

638
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 2: checking my phone because I know our luck around here,

639
00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,440
Speaker 2: and I really think whenever these things happen, they're going

640
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 2: to happen when we're on the air.

641
00:29:10,200 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm scared. We're all scared. Don't worry. We

642
00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 1: can tremble together.

643
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 2: The Mood Tracker series rolls on tonight, and we got

644
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 2: a head to Knoxville, and we got to talk about Tennessee. Now,

645
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 2: anytime I talk about Tennessee, as you know, in good faith,

646
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 2: I go in the control room where director Colin is

647
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,240
Speaker 2: patiently waiting on the show to begin, and I say, Colin,

648
00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 2: I'm talking about Tennessee tonight.

649
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 1: What should I say?

650
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 2: And so I told Director Colin, who some of you

651
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:35,920
Speaker 2: still don't think is real. So if you are part

652
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 2: of that crew, just imagine me talking to myself in

653
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 2: the control room and I said, director Colin talking about

654
00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 2: Tennessee mood Tracker, tonight, you're in my Tennessee authority.

655
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:43,880
Speaker 1: What do we think?

656
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 2: Here's what Colin had to say, and then you can

657
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 2: match it with what you think about Tennessee. Colin's mood

658
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:54,040
Speaker 2: was we've been here before, but that sounds negative. He

659
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 2: had a positive ending to the tone. He said, I

660
00:29:56,680 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 2: like Joshipel, I like Mike White, the athletic director there.

661
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 2: He said, yes, we've got questions about defense depth and whatnot,

662
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,800
Speaker 2: but that couldn't really be answered last year given the attrition.

663
00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 2: More on that in a second, but he did say

664
00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 2: it's a much more fun program to follow. There's a

665
00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 2: lot more energy around the program. And what he said,

666
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 2: and I remember he's given me this quote a couple

667
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:20,040
Speaker 2: of times. Now, we already sucked. That's why we had

668
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:21,959
Speaker 2: to get a new coaching staff in here. If you're

669
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 2: gonna suck, at least suck in a much more entertaining manner.

670
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 2: No one wants to suck and lose eighteen to six, Okay,

671
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 2: thirty eight thirty five is a little bit different. And

672
00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,120
Speaker 2: so I'm not saying Tennessee suck last year. Far from that.

673
00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 2: But it's a much more entertaining style. At least outsiders

674
00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 2: are much more likely to watch Tennessee. Now here is

675
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 2: my mood tracker on Tennessee the Tennessee fan base, or

676
00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,280
Speaker 2: the mood tracker on the Tennessee fan base, I think

677
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:47,720
Speaker 2: could best be described as ready for the twist. So

678
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 2: if you take a can of soda or a bottle

679
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 2: of soda and you shake that thing up, one of

680
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 2: two things is about to happen. Either when you twist

681
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 2: that top off, it's going to go all over the place,

682
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 2: or it's going to because you find out you got

683
00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:02,640
Speaker 2: flat soda your hand. Now there's a lot of anticipation

684
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 2: and there's a lot of guarded excitement around the Tennessee

685
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 2: program right now.

686
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:07,400
Speaker 1: That's exactly how i'd feel.

687
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 2: You know, if I lived in Diana, Tennessee right off

688
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 2: sixty five underrated Railtown there in Diana. If I lived

689
00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:17,080
Speaker 2: in Diana Tennessee and I was a Tennessee fan, I'd

690
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 2: feel that way. That's exactly how i'd feel. But I

691
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:23,360
Speaker 2: wouldn't have one hundred percent confidence on what's going to happen.

692
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 1: If Slash Whin we twist that top off, We're one

693
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 1: year in.

694
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 2: We're right around one year since Josh Heipel got hired

695
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 2: and Mike White the athletic directors there, even in the

696
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 2: midst of a rebuild, we don't know what their version

697
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:37,600
Speaker 2: of Tennessee fully is going to look like. We have

698
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 2: some good sneak previews as to what it's going to

699
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:43,000
Speaker 2: look like. I'm a big believer they overachieved in twenty

700
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 2: twenty one, to be perfectly clear. You know, they had

701
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:48,720
Speaker 2: two or three more close losses, but they won seven games,

702
00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 2: and I really think for proper context, we need to

703
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:53,760
Speaker 2: go back, like on VAS twenty four to seven. Those

704
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,160
Speaker 2: guys have done a really good job of doing sort

705
00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 2: of a one year check up on the program, and

706
00:31:58,760 --> 00:32:02,000
Speaker 2: they talked about where they were this time last year

707
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 2: and then going into spring and coming out of spring.

708
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,480
Speaker 2: I think some people have forgotten this though. I think

709
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 2: there's a lot of amnesia about how bad this program looked,

710
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 2: and they had a ton of attrition already. They were

711
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 2: making the move and the roster was not good. And

712
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 2: not only is the roster not good, they then lost

713
00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:22,360
Speaker 2: a lot of pieces on that roster. And not only

714
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,800
Speaker 2: did they lose a lot of pieces, you're also talking

715
00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 2: about bringing in a style and just a philosophy. Then

716
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 2: in a lot of ways, is in one one hundred

717
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 2: and eighty de return from what they had been doing.

718
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 2: That spells disaster in the sec most of the time,

719
00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:39,520
Speaker 2: and it really didn't set you up for success no

720
00:32:39,560 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 2: matter what level of football you're playing most of the time.

721
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 2: And yet they found a way last year, and even

722
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 2: in some of the games they lost. The Pit game

723
00:32:47,520 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 2: was an instant classic. They went back and forth on

724
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 2: that one. The Old Miss game, which we were at,

725
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 2: kind of gets overshadowed because of the trash on the

726
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:55,480
Speaker 2: field at the end and whatnot.

727
00:32:56,040 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 1: Officiating was abhorrent that night. One of the biggest.

728
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 2: Calls for change that I think I've ever seen in

729
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:06,040
Speaker 2: my time watching college football, and unfortunately it got overshadowed

730
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 2: because of the ending. But those were close games. They

731
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,680
Speaker 2: played Bama close to the half, the Georgia game, the

732
00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:15,680
Speaker 2: Alabama game, those they're not expected to compete in. But

733
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 2: they got to the Music City Bowl. That's a last

734
00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 2: minute kind of game. Back and forth. So you've got

735
00:33:20,560 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 2: seven wins versus ten wins, and there being a bounce

736
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 2: of the balls difference really and a one possession difference

737
00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 2: in a lot of those games. My point is this

738
00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,640
Speaker 2: was not any kind of underachievement. This was an overachievement

739
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 2: to me. In year one, we're seeing progression offensively. That

740
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 2: alone is one of the most refreshing things to say

741
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 2: about Tennessee football. Think about the last time, if you're

742
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 2: a Tennessee volunteer fan, that you could lay your head

743
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,400
Speaker 2: on your pillow at night and know that even amidst

744
00:33:47,480 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 2: all the uncertainty elsewhere in the program, and we still

745
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 2: got the whole NCAA thing out there. We don't know

746
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 2: how that's going to pan out, but at least I

747
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 2: know one thing. I know my quarterbacks in good hands tonight,

748
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 2: and I know my offense is in good hands tonight.

749
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 2: And I know that we are in the process of

750
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 2: putting a product on the field that skill, perimeter, talent

751
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 2: and quarterbacks are going to want to come and play for.

752
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 2: It's been a long time since any of us, myself included,

753
00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 2: have been able to say that. But there are other

754
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 2: positives to consider here. Tennessee is a long way from

755
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:19,040
Speaker 2: a finished product, but there are other positives to consider.

756
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:22,439
Speaker 2: They lost a lot to the portal, but they also

757
00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:24,839
Speaker 2: got a lot out of the portal last year and

758
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,360
Speaker 2: virtually every one of those guys contributed. Now, some of

759
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 2: that was out of necessity, but it also signifies they

760
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,080
Speaker 2: did a heck of a job evaluating guys in the

761
00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 2: portal versus their needs, and they got some really good

762
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 2: pieces that helped them immediately. How are they going to

763
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 2: do moving forward in the portal? Is that how they're

764
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 2: going to strike the balance? You know, a lot of

765
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 2: different administrations, a lot of different staffs, have their own

766
00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 2: idea about how to balance the amount we lean on

767
00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:52,800
Speaker 2: high school ranks versus the amount we lean on the portal.

768
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:55,400
Speaker 2: It's still a little bit too early to know how

769
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 2: Josh Haipel and Tennessee view that. For that matter, it's

770
00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:00,839
Speaker 2: still a little bit early to know how anybody views that.

771
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 2: But they were really aggressive in the summer recruiting stretch.

772
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:06,800
Speaker 2: They've I think got the number fifteen class. They're in

773
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 2: the mid teens right now as it relates to the

774
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:11,919
Speaker 2: twenty twenty two cycle. But it is my belief when

775
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 2: we specifically look at talent acquisition, whether through high school

776
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,839
Speaker 2: recruiting or the portal, I think it is a lie

777
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 2: when people tell you Tennessee is not capable of recruiting

778
00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:25,879
Speaker 2: like they used to. And this is not even it's

779
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 2: not even a commentary on the potential of Josh Hipel

780
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,239
Speaker 2: at Tennessee. This is just me talking about Tennessee. I've

781
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:32,200
Speaker 2: always felt this way.

782
00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:34,319
Speaker 1: To me, the secret is.

783
00:35:34,239 --> 00:35:36,839
Speaker 2: Not asking how much in state talent in the state

784
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,960
Speaker 2: of Tennessee is there. I think Tennessee's a whole lot

785
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 2: more likely to put talent out of Charlotte than Memphis,

786
00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:43,960
Speaker 2: is what I'm telling you, because of the shape of

787
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,160
Speaker 2: the state and because of how sheer geographical dynamics work.

788
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,600
Speaker 2: The way I've always felt it's more property gauged Tennessee

789
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:53,360
Speaker 2: is drawing a six hour radius around the campus and

790
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 2: understanding that that includes North Georgia, North Alabama, most all

791
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 2: of Tennessee. You get into Ohio, you get into the

792
00:35:58,520 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 2: Virginia area, the Carolina. There is a ton of talent

793
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:04,839
Speaker 2: in that six hour radius. If you've got the right

794
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 2: environment and right staff and culture on campus, it will

795
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 2: be attractive. Having a good offense helps out a whole

796
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 2: lot there. If you take that part A and then

797
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 2: you combine it with a part B of really thorough

798
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 2: evaluation processes for not only leveraging the transfer portal to

799
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 2: get raw talent out of it, but getting the right

800
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 2: kind of talent that fits your scheme and guys that

801
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:27,399
Speaker 2: can be plug in plays. You can put a winning

802
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 2: product on the field. To be clear, when I say

803
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:31,880
Speaker 2: winning product, I mean you can compete for the SEC

804
00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:35,400
Speaker 2: championship at Tennessee, not this year necessarily.

805
00:36:35,880 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 1: You can surprise me. Feel free to do so.

806
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:42,400
Speaker 2: There is no reason why Tennessee has to resign themselves

807
00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,480
Speaker 2: to taking a back seat. There are teams in the

808
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:48,360
Speaker 2: SEC that, if we're real with ourselves, kind of have

809
00:36:48,480 --> 00:36:51,279
Speaker 2: to do that until further notice, Tennessee's not one of them.

810
00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 2: Just because Tennessee hasn't been something for a long time

811
00:36:54,760 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 2: doesn't mean the program lost the capability to be that.

812
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 2: I have never believed that, and so it's going to

813
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 2: be real fun because this is a program. If you

814
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:07,640
Speaker 2: were putting a spotlight on a program in the Southeastern

815
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 2: Conference this spring, I don't know outside of Florida because

816
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:13,400
Speaker 2: there's just a whole bunch of new down there, I

817
00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:14,879
Speaker 2: don't know that there's going to be a more fun

818
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 2: slash interesting program to watch than Tennessee because there's so

819
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:20,839
Speaker 2: many different ways that this can still go. And I

820
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:23,200
Speaker 2: was over on the Valls twenty four to seven board

821
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 2: today and I was asking, what's your mood right now?

822
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 2: And a lot of those guys and girls over there

823
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 2: were saying the same thing. There's optimism, but none of

824
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 2: them are so ignorant to believe what we're out of

825
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,680
Speaker 2: the woods. Seven wins last year will equal ten wins

826
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 2: this year will equal SEC championship or bust in twenty

827
00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 2: twenty three. No one's talking like that. This is Tennessee.

828
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,560
Speaker 2: They've learned the lessons over and over and over again.

829
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:48,840
Speaker 2: So that's one of the more jaded fan bases. So

830
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 2: it's very hard. It is very hard to get them

831
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 2: fired up. Some of them are, but they're going about

832
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,800
Speaker 2: it the right way. They understand. Let's be careful. Okay,

833
00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 2: we see the top layer of the water here is frozen.

834
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:02,799
Speaker 2: There's a layer of ice. We don't know how thick

835
00:38:02,840 --> 00:38:05,319
Speaker 2: that layer is. So we're not gonna sprint across it.

836
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:08,640
Speaker 2: We're gonna tiptoe across it. They're tiptoeing across.

837
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:08,799
Speaker 1: It right now.

838
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:12,960
Speaker 2: Actually, maybe instead of soda bottles, the better metafair would would.

839
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:13,240
Speaker 1: Have been ice.

840
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 2: Not a lot of that in Tennessee though, So that's

841
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 2: the mood tracker there, all right. What I wanted to

842
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:22,160
Speaker 2: wrap up with tonight was a question, and we've been

843
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 2: doing a lot of Q and A at the end

844
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 2: of the show, but this was not a question that

845
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:28,200
Speaker 2: any of you asked. It was a question I asked

846
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,960
Speaker 2: earlier today that I wanted to get some answers on.

847
00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 2: So earlier today I'll go on Twitter, and I was

848
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,640
Speaker 2: kind of thinking this morning about a conversation I had,

849
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 2: which led to me thinking about the question. If I

850
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 2: had five minutes to talk to someone who's never watched

851
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 2: college football before and I wanted to recruit them to

852
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:48,040
Speaker 2: the sport, how would I spend that five minutes, short

853
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 2: of teleportation and being able to take them to a

854
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 2: moment in time. What would I show them? What would

855
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 2: I play for them? What story would I tell them?

856
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,280
Speaker 2: So this is the tweet if you're watching on YouTube,

857
00:38:57,320 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 2: That's what I said. You guys get five men and

858
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 2: you can do with it whatever you want, but you

859
00:39:03,000 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 2: only get five minutes. How would you sell someone who

860
00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 2: may be a sports fan, but they're totally college football agnostic,

861
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,239
Speaker 2: they have no feel on it whatsoever. How would you

862
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 2: recruit them to the sport, and man it took off.

863
00:39:13,560 --> 00:39:14,839
Speaker 2: We got a lot of responses on it.

864
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:15,120
Speaker 1: Now.

865
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:17,240
Speaker 2: There were a lot of people who said, I would

866
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:20,080
Speaker 2: show them the last five minutes of the USC versus

867
00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:23,440
Speaker 2: Texas National championship game. So that's the five Rose Bowl,

868
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 2: or if you want to call it the six Rose

869
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 2: Bowl like a psychopath, you can do that. It's the

870
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 2: five Rose Bowl. Yes, that would be very good. Vin

871
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:33,200
Speaker 2: Schung to the corner. Texas wins the National Championship. We

872
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 2: didn't know it at the time, but that was the

873
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 2: beginning of the decline of USC football and they've really

874
00:39:38,360 --> 00:39:41,200
Speaker 2: never been back. Keith Jackson on the call. We just

875
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,680
Speaker 2: talked about this game like a month ago, the Rose Bowl.

876
00:39:43,719 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 2: It's kind of a movie setting out there. Yes, that

877
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 2: would be great. I have no problem with that. Some

878
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:53,120
Speaker 2: others said, the kick six just the last final five

879
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:56,280
Speaker 2: minutes of the twenty thirteen Iron Bowl. That is surreal.

880
00:39:56,320 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 2: It's nothing like that that we've really seen in the

881
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:02,280
Speaker 2: sport before or since then. That's like a Stanford band

882
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 2: on the field kind of deal. Yes, that would be

883
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 2: another very very good thing to show, and so there

884
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 2: were replies like that. But I was thinking to myself.

885
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 1: Where would I go?

886
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:16,320
Speaker 2: And you know that there are a lot of postseason moments,

887
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:18,879
Speaker 2: like we could go to the twenty seventeen National Championship Game,

888
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:21,919
Speaker 2: the second and twenty six Alabama wins on a walk off.

889
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 1: We could do that. We could absolutely do that.

890
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,560
Speaker 2: But I'm a regular season guy, and I believe the

891
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 2: most precious commodity we have in this sport and the

892
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 2: most beautiful thing about this.

893
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:33,120
Speaker 1: Sport is the regular season. It's unique under anything.

894
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,080
Speaker 2: Else in sports. So that's what I want to do.

895
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 2: I want to show them something that they can't get

896
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 2: anywhere else. You can get great endings. You watch the

897
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 2: Chiefs Bills the other day. You could get a great

898
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 2: postseason ending in any level of competition, at a high

899
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 2: level at least, But where can you go to get

900
00:40:49,080 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 2: what they don't have anywhere else?

901
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 1: In college football? Where do I go? I go to

902
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:53,360
Speaker 1: the regular season.

903
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 2: So I was thinking about October ninth of this year,

904
00:40:57,680 --> 00:40:59,920
Speaker 2: if I could just put a mash up a monta

905
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:04,080
Speaker 2: together of the day October ninth, Do you remember where

906
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 2: you were? You may not, Let me refreshify your memory.

907
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 2: That was the day that we were in Dallas for

908
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 2: Oklahoma Texas it's the best regular season game. I saw

909
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 2: one of the most incredible games period I've ever seen,

910
00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 2: and so that was an instant classic. And that was

911
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 2: a field storming at the end, field storming number one

912
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 2: of the day. Then Dennis Dodd, I think, was up

913
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:30,760
Speaker 2: in Iowa City. He was at Penn State versus Iowa.

914
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 2: That's when Sean Clifford went down. Iowa wins, I think,

915
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:38,239
Speaker 2: to remain undefeated, field storming number two of the day.

916
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:40,960
Speaker 2: And then to cap it all off as yours truly,

917
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 2: even though he's got credentials to the game. Forsakes the

918
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,000
Speaker 2: A and M Alabama game. He gets on a plane

919
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,799
Speaker 2: to go home. I'm there watching on the plane as

920
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,840
Speaker 2: Texas A and M off the leg of Seth Small

921
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:55,879
Speaker 2: at a field goal that the buzzer takes down Alabama

922
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 2: field storming number three.

923
00:41:58,040 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 1: Of the day.

924
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 2: That Chris Delies is number one. What the regular season

925
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,799
Speaker 2: means in college football. Notice I didn't say December ninth.

926
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 2: I didn't say Conference championship week. I said October ninth.

927
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 2: It was probably what week five or week six of

928
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:14,400
Speaker 2: the season. And there were three different instances over like

929
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 2: an eight hour period where we had field stormings in Dallas,

930
00:42:18,360 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 2: and we had a field storming in Iowa City, and

931
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 2: we had a field storming in College Station.

932
00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:25,279
Speaker 1: That's what I'd show them, and.

933
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:27,279
Speaker 2: Then I would say to them, this was not a

934
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 2: national championship day. This was not a college football playoff day.

935
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 2: This was not even a conference championship day. This was

936
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:39,239
Speaker 2: just a regular Saturday. Because on any given Saturday in

937
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:43,320
Speaker 2: this sport, this stuff can happen because as the sport

938
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 2: is currently constructed, every regular season game carries with it

939
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:52,960
Speaker 2: maximum importance because, unlike pro sports and maybe the future

940
00:42:53,000 --> 00:42:55,520
Speaker 2: of this sport, there is not a giant safety net

941
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:58,080
Speaker 2: built under these games. You don't get to fall off

942
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:01,040
Speaker 2: the high wire and then crash harmlessly into the safety

943
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:03,319
Speaker 2: net and say, oh, well, I guess we're not going

944
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:04,280
Speaker 2: to be a top three seed.

945
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 1: Probably be like a nine seed now. Nope.

946
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 2: Penn State left Iowa City that day knowing they had

947
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:13,319
Speaker 2: zero margin for er left. Alabama left A and M

948
00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 2: that day knowing we've got zero margin for Era left.

949
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 2: We can't be losing another game. Ditto for Oklahoma and Texas.

950
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 2: I mean Texas. That was their second loss already, and

951
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 2: so Texas knew even though some folks had picked them

952
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 2: to be the surprise of the country. They had to

953
00:43:28,120 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 2: reassess their goals already, and Oklahoma very very close. They

954
00:43:32,239 --> 00:43:35,319
Speaker 2: were down eighteen points multiple times in that game. That

955
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 2: was the best Saturday of the fall. You could see

956
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 2: it coming a mile away. I mean, we did a

957
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 2: segment in August where we talked about how good that

958
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:43,200
Speaker 2: day would be if I got someone out there and

959
00:43:43,239 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 2: I got five minutes. That's what I'm showing them. I

960
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 2: don't think the USC Texas strategy is wrong. I don't

961
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 2: think the kick six strategy is wrong. I want to

962
00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 2: show them what's great about the regular season because that

963
00:43:52,800 --> 00:43:55,240
Speaker 2: is the tool that I'm going to use to recruit

964
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:57,319
Speaker 2: anyone to this sports. Not the postseason. I'm going to

965
00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 2: use the regular season. Really appreciate you guys as being

966
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 2: tuned in. Please like the video if you have not

967
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,920
Speaker 2: already a subscribe to the channel. We have got a

968
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 2: weird week coming up next week, so we are going

969
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,560
Speaker 2: to do the Sunday show here like normal, and then

970
00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 2: we will be I'm going to head down to Fort Lauter.

971
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 2: The company's given me an excuse, so I'm going.

972
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 1: To Florida all week.

973
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:20,399
Speaker 2: Always do that if you live in a town where

974
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 2: it's twenty five degrees and the sunsets at four thirty

975
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:25,359
Speaker 2: in the winter, always go to Florida if they give

976
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 2: you an excuse too.

977
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:27,239
Speaker 1: So I'm going to be down there all week.

978
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:29,879
Speaker 2: We are going to do our Wednesday National Signing Day

979
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 2: show from Fort Lauderdale, TBD on the Thursday edition of

980
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 2: Late Kick. Just stay tuned, follow me on Twitter at

981
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:38,520
Speaker 2: Late Kick Josh. But I do want to tell you

982
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:41,400
Speaker 2: this as we go off the air. Two stories. Actually,

983
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 2: one's very quick. There is a falling iguana alert in

984
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:46,959
Speaker 2: South Florida right now. I'm not making this up because

985
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 2: they're going to get below forty degrees down there, thankfully

986
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:53,520
Speaker 2: not next week. But the iguanas apparently do not handle

987
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:56,399
Speaker 2: sub forty degree weather very well, and so they get

988
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:59,319
Speaker 2: docile and they fall out of trees, and so they

989
00:44:59,320 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 2: have to issue rarely, but they have to issue falling

990
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:03,800
Speaker 2: iguana alerts down in South Florida.

991
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 1: Now.

992
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 2: The last time I was down there, one of the

993
00:45:05,640 --> 00:45:07,359
Speaker 2: first things I talked to you about when I got

994
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 2: back was iguanas are like squirrels. They're all over the

995
00:45:10,120 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 2: place down there. Apparently they can't handle the cold nearly

996
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:16,120
Speaker 2: as well as our squirrel friends up here do. So

997
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 2: heads up for iguanas in South Florida. That'll be rereckedfied

998
00:45:19,040 --> 00:45:21,400
Speaker 2: by the time I get down there next week. Second

999
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:23,120
Speaker 2: thing I want to tell you is hold on. This

1000
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 2: company does not sponsor us. I'm not showing you which

1001
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:25,560
Speaker 2: company it is.

1002
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:28,399
Speaker 1: This little can right here holds one hundred and eighty

1003
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 1: milligrams of caffeine. I just sip on it.

1004
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 2: Some of you prefer whiskey. I use caffeine. I just

1005
00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 2: sip on it to get through the day. And on

1006
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 2: the show, Jesse is a psychopath producer. Jesse is at

1007
00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:41,800
Speaker 2: his desk today and I walk in and my exact

1008
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:43,640
Speaker 2: words to him were, Jesse, I'm about to punk you

1009
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 2: one way or the other. He said, tell me more so.

1010
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 2: I had Death Wish coffee. They also don't sponsor the show.

1011
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:52,200
Speaker 2: Who knows that could change one day. But it is

1012
00:45:52,239 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 2: a three hundred milligram essentially can of gasoline that somehow

1013
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:59,680
Speaker 2: is legal to be carried by publics and other grocery

1014
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 2: stores across the country. And I said, Jesse, I dare

1015
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 2: you to drink this? He has turned down the one

1016
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 2: hundred and eighty milligram version before, so I peer pressured

1017
00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 2: producer Jesse just to see what would happen. It's always

1018
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:14,800
Speaker 2: encouraged in a large corporate setting. And so he chugged

1019
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:16,600
Speaker 2: it right in front of me. He said, I'm not

1020
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:18,960
Speaker 2: going to fall for this, and he chugs it and

1021
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 2: I don't. He wasn't the same person. I really didn't

1022
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:26,920
Speaker 2: recognize the person he turned into. We don't ever have music.

1023
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:27,280
Speaker 1: In the office.

1024
00:46:27,320 --> 00:46:29,840
Speaker 2: I go to the bathroom. I come back, Jesse, what

1025
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:33,200
Speaker 2: band were you there playing? He's blaring something out of

1026
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:36,879
Speaker 2: his office door open? Totally classless. Move Go ahead, Jesse,

1027
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:40,640
Speaker 2: I'm listening. He was blaring Disturbed, I think, one of

1028
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 2: my dad's favorite bands.

1029
00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:44,280
Speaker 1: And so I will.

1030
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 2: Tell you that I put the video on Twitter for

1031
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 2: those of you who want to see Death Wish Coffee

1032
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:52,000
Speaker 2: came in. They acknowledged producer Jesse, and so I just

1033
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 2: wanted to acknowledge him too, because there was a lot

1034
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 2: of bad that came out of that.

1035
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 1: So I at least wanted to.

1036
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 2: Give him some public recognition that he did not get punked.

1037
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:02,880
Speaker 2: He did chug the Death Wish coffee. And it is

1038
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 2: the first and last time that I will ever try

1039
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:04,920
Speaker 2: that way.

1040
00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 1: Now we got to get.

1041
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:07,320
Speaker 2: Out of here because we've got a lot of editing

1042
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:08,000
Speaker 2: to do on the back.

1043
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:08,439
Speaker 1: Half of the show.

1044
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 2: So thank you so much for watching. Make sure you're

1045
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 2: following on Twitter and Instagram. Hat Lee kick Josh for

1046
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:14,959
Speaker 2: director for Colin much more well behaved today.

1047
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 1: To producer Jesse, I'm Josh Baatee.

1048
00:47:16,719 --> 00:47:18,120
Speaker 2: Thanks so much for watching and have a great rest

1049
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 2: of your evening and God bless you.