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Find 4 00:00:09,600 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: your local station for The Herd at Fox Sports Radio 5 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: dot com, or stream us live every day on the 6 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:18,440 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio or FSR. 7 00:00:21,920 --> 00:00:23,960 Speaker 2: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. 8 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:27,240 Speaker 1: So earlier in the show, about an hour ago, I 9 00:00:27,320 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: had Matt Hasselbeck on and I said, I just love 10 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: I always liked Matt Hasselbeck's journey. 11 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 3: Well, our next. 12 00:00:35,320 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: Guest four years at Perdue, which is not a high 13 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: profile program. 14 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 3: It's a great university. 15 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 1: Raheem Moster made the most of his NFL career eleven year, 16 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: six teams, some of the best coaches. A couple of 17 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 1: years ago with Miami, you could not get him out 18 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:52,240 Speaker 1: of the end zone, and he is now joining us live. 19 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 1: So my first take is, why are you want to 20 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:58,480 Speaker 1: do you still want to play because you have been 21 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 1: so pred I think of you, I think of end zone. 22 00:01:02,360 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 1: I think of a guy that figures out a way. 23 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:07,880 Speaker 1: You've got good hands, you know, you're a bully down there. 24 00:01:08,120 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 1: Would you play if offered a gig? Oh? 25 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:14,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, I would definitely play. And first, first and foremost, 26 00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:15,759 Speaker 4: this is like an honor just being on. 27 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 5: This show with you. You know, I think of the. 28 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 3: World of you. 29 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:19,839 Speaker 5: Man, You're definitely one of one. 30 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:22,280 Speaker 4: Of those guys up at the top that's doing unbelievable things. 31 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 4: So I thank thank you for having me. Man, this 32 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:26,960 Speaker 4: means a lot. But yeah, no, I definitely want to 33 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:28,800 Speaker 4: keep playing. You know why why not? 34 00:01:29,080 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 5: You know, I felt feel good, feel great. 35 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:35,600 Speaker 4: Didn't take as much beating last season, so UH want 36 00:01:35,640 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 4: to continue to keep playing. 37 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 1: So I want to ask you about Mike McDaniel because 38 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 1: I've said before I don't know if he's a great 39 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: head coach, but I know he's a good football coach. 40 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:47,760 Speaker 1: And for you, he figured out very quickly. And I 41 00:01:47,800 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: respect Mike for this. He's like, I gotta get I 42 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: got to feed this guy. Yeah, and so you were 43 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 1: vital in this offense as a head coach. What went 44 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 1: right with Mike McDaniel and what maybe didn't go right? 45 00:02:02,400 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 3: What? What? What was your relationship with him? 46 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:08,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, we had, We had a good relationship going into 47 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 4: you know, the Dolphins organization, but obviously things kind of 48 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 4: flustered and went their their own ways. 49 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 5: But you know at the beginning. 50 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 4: Of everything, there's always a good story and good telling. 51 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 4: You know, we we we did everything that we possibly 52 00:02:23,200 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 4: could to maximize the opportunities that were given to us. 53 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:29,640 Speaker 4: And then you know, he's a great he's a great coach. 54 00:02:30,400 --> 00:02:34,120 Speaker 4: You know, he listens to to if guys are talking 55 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 4: to you, he'll listen and and you know, give him 56 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 4: some give him some advice. But head coach wise, obviously, 57 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:42,240 Speaker 4: you know, the past couple of years, what they've been 58 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:44,520 Speaker 4: going through has just been you know, kind of kind 59 00:02:44,520 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 4: of rough and and I kind of feel bad for 60 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:49,840 Speaker 4: the players, you know, just because you know, when you 61 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 4: have a coach that that is so you know, player friendly, 62 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 4: it doesn't really mix all that well. You know, I 63 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 4: mean look at look at the coach in history, not 64 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 4: in just in the NFL, but you know, MLB, NBA, 65 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:07,839 Speaker 4: you know, all these different these sports franchises, they they 66 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:12,359 Speaker 4: have coaches that implement toughness, resilience, you know, and that's 67 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 4: something that he kind of missed the mark all in 68 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 4: being a head coach. 69 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 1: No, I think you nailed. In fact, you were the 70 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 1: tough quotient for him. And it's very interesting Raheem that 71 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: you mentioned that because Mike when I when I he 72 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:28,519 Speaker 1: got hired. My take, I said this on the air. 73 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:31,200 Speaker 1: I said, I know he's smart, and I know he 74 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: knows offense. I said, but there is something about Mike 75 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 1: Tomlin or Mike Rabel or Mike McDonald that there's a 76 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:44,520 Speaker 1: physical stature. There's sort of a tough guy thing. And 77 00:03:44,560 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 1: I said, I look at Mike McDaniel is more like 78 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 1: super smart, little nerdy whatever. You know. But you felt 79 00:03:51,960 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: it as well that there was a lack of toughness 80 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 1: in the Dolphins. You felt that a little bit. 81 00:03:55,680 --> 00:03:57,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, I mean, and on top of that, to 82 00:03:58,320 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 4: go to your point, you know, when you're talking about 83 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 4: guys like you know, Mike Tomlin, Vrabel, you know some 84 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:05,400 Speaker 4: of these, I mean, even look at Belichick, it was 85 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 4: it was no nonsense. 86 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:07,119 Speaker 3: BS. 87 00:04:07,160 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 5: We getting here, We're getting the job done. 88 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 4: And and it's my way of the highway, you know, 89 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 4: it's it's pure. This is how we're gonna coach it. 90 00:04:14,080 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 4: You know, I'm I'm I'm essentially the ruler. I'm the 91 00:04:17,120 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 4: one that's you know, making these these games and and 92 00:04:20,040 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 4: also the failures. I have to accept that. But you know, 93 00:04:23,000 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 4: when you're dealing with a coach that's so nonchalant, laid back, 94 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:30,159 Speaker 4: wants to be you know, the the catalyst behind being 95 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 4: a players coach. It kind of shifts that organization and 96 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 4: the pivot you know, within that system, so which it 97 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 4: can work for other you know, other smaller league teams possibly, 98 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,480 Speaker 4: but you know when it when you're dealing with somebody 99 00:04:45,560 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 4: something like that is as a player, you're like, no, 100 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 4: I need somebody you know, tough that's gonna lay the 101 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 4: hammer down when it needs to be down and tell 102 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:56,440 Speaker 4: other players to get in line. And and you know 103 00:04:56,520 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 4: when you don't got that, that that impact and can 104 00:04:58,920 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 4: definitely be detrimental. 105 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 1: Okay, let's talk Kyle Shanahan, who's always been that's that's 106 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: the first time I really you know a lot of 107 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:09,039 Speaker 1: people saw you. You know, we're like, oh, who is 108 00:05:09,120 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: this guy? And again you were a tough, physical back. 109 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 1: Shanahan is known as a running backs friend. Did you 110 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 1: know immediately with the Niners like oh this is gonna work? 111 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 3: Yeah? 112 00:05:20,560 --> 00:05:25,039 Speaker 4: Absolutely, you know I remember specifically, I don't want to 113 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 4: go into too many crazy details, you know, I sat 114 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:31,039 Speaker 4: in the meeting room after one game, I put the 115 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 4: ball on the ground and he grabbed me and he said, hey. 116 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 5: Look, come to my office. Let me let me talk 117 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 5: to you. 118 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:40,000 Speaker 4: And at that moment he was just asking me, hey, look, 119 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 4: like what's going on? And I told him, hey, coach, 120 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:44,200 Speaker 4: you know you expect a lot out of me, but 121 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 4: in practice, I don't get these looks. In practice, I'm not, 122 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 4: you know, getting that quality of work. And then you 123 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,279 Speaker 4: expect me to go into the game and do my 124 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 4: job to the fullest. Now, yes, I'm a professional athlete. 125 00:05:55,640 --> 00:05:58,159 Speaker 4: I should be able to do those things when I'm 126 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:01,479 Speaker 4: not getting those looks in practice. But you know, I 127 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 4: think that we needed we need to change it up. 128 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:06,160 Speaker 4: I need to get more touches. That's how I roll, like, 129 00:06:06,279 --> 00:06:08,440 Speaker 4: you know, I'm more of like the physical you know. 130 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 4: Let's get this thing rolling and then go and come 131 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 4: into the game on Sunday. Yeah, and now you can 132 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:16,720 Speaker 4: see what I could really do. And he looked at 133 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:19,000 Speaker 4: me and he was like, you know what, You're right, 134 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 4: I haven't seen you touch the ball all that much 135 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 4: in practice. We're gonna give you some more opportunities. And 136 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 4: that's that's the type of coach that you want, you know, 137 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:28,800 Speaker 4: a guy that's going to tell you exactly what's going 138 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 4: to happen, and he's going to get it done. And 139 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 4: that very same day he threw me right on in 140 00:06:33,600 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 4: and I got about ten ten touches and everything was rest. 141 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 5: The rest was history. 142 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 3: So you were there four or five years actually. 143 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:43,840 Speaker 1: And one of the criticisms on Shanahan, and there aren't many, 144 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: is man he can he can really wear out or 145 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: running back. McCaffrey's got three or four hundred touches. But 146 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:52,400 Speaker 1: it sounds like you sort of like you're like Nolan Ryan. 147 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:54,880 Speaker 1: You were better the later the innings went. You liked 148 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: the Verlander picture, you liked more touches, you liked the 149 00:06:58,400 --> 00:06:59,320 Speaker 1: physicality of it. 150 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, you know. 151 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:04,880 Speaker 4: And and when he runs his offense is running back 152 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 4: by committee, you know. But when you have a guy 153 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 4: like Christian McCaffrey and he does exactly what he needs 154 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:14,040 Speaker 4: to do within the offense, and Kyle loves the fact 155 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 4: that he could put him out, split him out, you know, 156 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 4: give him even more touches because he knows what he's 157 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:20,200 Speaker 4: going to get out of that guy. You know, each 158 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 4: and every touch that's that's specific to that that that 159 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 4: style offense. And that's what Kyle's been able to do 160 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 4: all these years. Even even with his dad, you know, 161 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 4: him watching his dad, Mike Shanahan out in Denver and 162 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 4: even in Washington. You know, they both understand the running 163 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 4: back position and what it needs to what needs to 164 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 4: happen in order for you to get the most out 165 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:41,920 Speaker 4: of those backs. 166 00:07:42,760 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 1: So Ashton Genty, you had a little spell with Ashton Genty, 167 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: the Boise State kid. I see about one boy see 168 00:07:50,640 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: state game a year I watched, I think it was 169 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 1: against Oregon. 170 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 3: He's really clever. 171 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 1: He kind of could hide in the backfield because he 172 00:07:57,760 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 1: you know what, he reminded me of a guy years 173 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 1: ago with the play that Oregon State name Rogers. 174 00:08:02,760 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 3: Uh Jaquas Rogers Rogers. Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. 175 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 1: Now I thought he was more explosive, but that he 176 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: was smaller and shifting. He'd come flying out of the 177 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 1: backfield and you couldn't see him behind the big offensive line. 178 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 4: So what did you make of GENTI first impression? This 179 00:08:18,400 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 4: dude is made of the right stuff. Obviously, you know 180 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 4: he's a rookie and and you know, being a first rounder, 181 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 4: you have a stature about you, right, you have a 182 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 4: you have a requirement, and man, he exceeded that he 183 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 4: exceeded his his professionalism and his growth, and and me 184 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 4: even trying to implement you know, my my take and 185 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 4: everything that I bring to the game and you know, 186 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 4: my knowledge behind the game. He just absorbed it like 187 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 4: a sponge and was really really focused outing and listen. Yeah, 188 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 4: he's really he's really a difference maker on that team. 189 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:53,200 Speaker 4: And you know, I got nothing but love for him. 190 00:08:53,240 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 4: He's uh, he's forever a brother of mine, and he's 191 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 4: he's going to continue to do great things. And I'm 192 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 4: excited about the I'm excited where he goes man in 193 00:09:02,080 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 4: regards to his career because he's he's exception to the rule. 194 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:10,200 Speaker 4: Let's just say that he's he's way way better than 195 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:12,720 Speaker 4: people think. Obviously last year, you know, he missed out 196 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 4: on a thousand yards. You know you could see, you know, 197 00:09:15,160 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 4: he had only he was only twenty five yards shy 198 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,480 Speaker 4: and and I'll tell you what, man if if he 199 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 4: can get that twenty five yards, he would do it 200 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 4: in a heartbeat, in no matter who's in front of 201 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:26,719 Speaker 4: him blocking for him. 202 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:27,679 Speaker 3: I love that. 203 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, raheem most hurt for our radio audience listening. We're 204 00:09:30,520 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 1: on TV as well. FS one, so Raheem when you 205 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 1: you played for the Niners, winning culture, good ownership, great coach, 206 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:40,720 Speaker 1: then you played with the Raiders, and then you play 207 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:46,160 Speaker 1: with the Dolphins. For our audience, is there a difference 208 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 1: winning team, winning culture to losing culture? Is it the 209 00:09:49,400 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 1: little things or is it just like well, I mean 210 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 1: cause I look at the Niners and it's like they 211 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:58,439 Speaker 1: got to a Super Bowl at Garoppolo, it brought party wins, 212 00:09:58,480 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: Like it's not they you have have to have Patrick 213 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 1: Mahomes and San Francisco Like yeah, do you tell me 214 00:10:04,240 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 1: the difference between you know, the winning cultures you played 215 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 1: with and the ones that struggle. Is there something specific? 216 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 4: Honestly, it's the details, you know, and the decisions. I 217 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 4: think that that's the biggest thing that you know when 218 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 4: you're looking at these teams that are winning. I mean, 219 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 4: think about this, have you what do you the past 220 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 4: three years? Would you ever put together a team like 221 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 4: Seattle to win the Super Bowl? 222 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 3: You know most people said, but they draft so well. 223 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:32,600 Speaker 4: They draft well, and they know how to they know 224 00:10:32,640 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 4: how to get their guys in the building, and the 225 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 4: head coach knows how to get the guys to go. 226 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 4: You know, it's all about those details, and you know 227 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 4: that's some of the things that winning teams they figure out. 228 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 4: Losing teams they can't really figure it out. And so 229 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:50,120 Speaker 4: when you're dealing with a team like you know, the 230 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 4: forty nine ers, they can figure it out. They could 231 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 4: really figure it out, take it to the next pinnacle, 232 00:10:55,320 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 4: get up to that championship mindset, and ultimately the game, 233 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 4: but they can't figure out that that last you know, 234 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 4: drive that really can. 235 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 5: Count for them in order to win the Super Bowl. 236 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:09,960 Speaker 4: And then also with the Dolphins, you know my time there, 237 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:13,720 Speaker 4: you know, we had one of the best offenses you know, 238 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 4: to ever be displayed that twenty twenty three season, and 239 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:21,080 Speaker 4: you know, when it boiled down to those critical games, 240 00:11:21,120 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 4: you know, yeah, people want to say, hey, look it 241 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 4: was a cold that messed you up. You know, you 242 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 4: don't know how to play in cold weather, or teams 243 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 4: above five hundred you can't really beat. That's just all 244 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 4: that's hearsay, right, It's all about execution. Yeah, some coaches 245 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:39,679 Speaker 4: can tense up in those situations and some players can 246 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 4: tense up as well, but you know, it's all about 247 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 4: the details and trying to figure out how you can 248 00:11:44,240 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 4: execute that game in order to win it, and we 249 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 4: were just unable to do it. But like you said, 250 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 4: winning culture, it stems from being detailed and that goes 251 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:55,680 Speaker 4: on both sides of the ball. And it also goes 252 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:57,839 Speaker 4: within the coaching staff. If you have a coaching staff 253 00:11:57,840 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 4: that doesn't really believe in the system while the players 254 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 4: want to believe in the system, you know, it's it's relative. 255 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 1: So you played with Nick Bosa and Fred Warner and 256 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: George Kittle and Christian McCaffrey and Max Crosby and Brock 257 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:15,560 Speaker 1: Bauers and Tyreek Hill. I mean you played crazy. Is 258 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:17,959 Speaker 1: there a player that you played with? And obviously you're 259 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 1: a four year starter in the Big Ten. You've had 260 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:23,480 Speaker 1: a very successful career. You had a twenty one touchdown season. 261 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:28,600 Speaker 1: If I said to you a professional athlete that you 262 00:12:28,640 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: looked at and thought as a confident player, thought, man, 263 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 1: that guy's different. 264 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:34,960 Speaker 3: Is there one guy that stands out or two? 265 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 4: You know what out of all those guys on the list. 266 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:40,920 Speaker 4: And to be honest with you, I played this past 267 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 4: season with him and it and you know, I believed 268 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 4: all the hype I was listening to all the all 269 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 4: the hype coming in. It would have to be Max Crosby. 270 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:52,199 Speaker 4: I mean, and and he's a brother of mine. That's 271 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 4: you know, I love Max. He's he's a regular, straightforward dude, 272 00:12:56,960 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 4: his straight shooter that you know, really really cares about 273 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 4: the game and he puts his heart when I tell you, 274 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 4: he puts his heart and soul into it. 275 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:05,079 Speaker 5: He really does. 276 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 4: And he's a professional, super super professional guy. He wants 277 00:13:10,320 --> 00:13:13,760 Speaker 4: to just be the ultimate competitor and ultimately win, and 278 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:16,439 Speaker 4: he hasn't had that in some odd years and it's 279 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 4: frustrating to see that, you know. I at the beginning 280 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 4: of the year, I told him, Hey, look, man, like 281 00:13:21,559 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 4: we're gonna do this thing. Like I want to help 282 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 4: you win like I want to. 283 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 3: I want to. 284 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 4: I want to win for you, like I It's not 285 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:30,440 Speaker 4: about the game itself. I just want to do it 286 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 4: for you because I know what you've been through in 287 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 4: your career and you deserve it just because of the 288 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 4: attitude that you display, the confidence that you have, and 289 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 4: the tenacity to go out there each and every day 290 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 4: and put on it either in practice or in the game. 291 00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 4: Now he's played however many snaps you know, in the 292 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:51,440 Speaker 4: in the past several seasons, dude does not come off 293 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:53,839 Speaker 4: the field, and you got to respect a guy like that. 294 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 4: You know he can he can go out there with 295 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 4: a broken knee and torn a cl whatever and still 296 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 4: put it, put his body out there on the line, 297 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 4: like you know. 298 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 5: He there's no tomorrow. 299 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 4: So just a guy like him and his caliber, you know, 300 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 4: like you said, I don't play with you know Fred Warner. 301 00:14:09,440 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 4: Fred is awesome. Fred is a true competitor as well. 302 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:14,120 Speaker 4: He wants to win. But when I tell you about 303 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:18,199 Speaker 4: this guy named Max, Max Crosby is an ultimate competitor. Man, 304 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 4: He's he wants to win and I love it. Man, 305 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 4: he boosts everybody up around him. Well, raheem Moster. 306 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:27,200 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, if I was a general manager watching 307 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 1: the last twelve minutes, I would want you on my team. 308 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 3: I appreciate it. 309 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 1: Led the NFL with eighteen rushing touchdowns twenty one total 310 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: for the Dolphins in twenty twenty three. And I mean 311 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 1: San Francisco. Is there a team that you'd like to get? 312 00:14:44,080 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 1: Call you if I said, hey, this one team is 313 00:14:46,880 --> 00:14:47,960 Speaker 1: kind of interested. 314 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 3: Is there one? 315 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:52,560 Speaker 4: Honestly? I would love there's two. I would love to 316 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 4: go to Miami. I know Halflee and you know slow 317 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,000 Speaker 4: offensive coordinator I know them very well. They were with 318 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:04,920 Speaker 4: me at the Niners, you know, we I remember when 319 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 4: Half he was he was the dB coach and and man, 320 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:11,160 Speaker 4: I had nothing but respect for him because he had 321 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:13,760 Speaker 4: his DV. He had his DB's playing good, you know. 322 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 4: And the same thing with Slow. I know Slow. I 323 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 4: was with his brother in Miami too, So I know 324 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 4: they're they're that family is uh, they're they're great people. 325 00:15:23,400 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 4: And then obviously San Fran you know, that's that's that's 326 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 4: just like home to me. That's that's where I felt 327 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:31,960 Speaker 4: like my my career pivoted and and did a lot 328 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 4: of great things. And I want to continue to do 329 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:36,240 Speaker 4: great things. And plus who wouldn't want to have a 330 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 4: Christian and Raheem, you know duo back together. 331 00:15:39,080 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 3: You know what I mean? Like, well, I. 332 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:43,560 Speaker 1: Appreciate it, man, you uh you hit it out of 333 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:45,520 Speaker 1: the park today and I appreciate it absolutely. 334 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 5: I appreciate you. Thanks again for having me. Hey, let's 335 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 5: do this again. 336 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 4: Man. 337 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 3: I love I love the show. 338 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 5: I swear oh, I love that. 339 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 1: I love to hear it NFL GMS. There's a running 340 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:56,520 Speaker 1: back that's interested in playing and he gets into the 341 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 1: end zone. 342 00:15:57,720 --> 00:15:59,040 Speaker 3: Raheem, thank you so much. 343 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 1: We also have by the way, Dusty Maine, Michigan head 344 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 1: coach basketball coach, joining us before the end of the show. 345 00:16:05,320 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 1: They beat up on the fighting line I Friday and 346 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 1: they are I mean, if you had to make a 347 00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 1: bet today, I would take Michigan to win it. Michigan 348 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 1: beats Duke Gonzaga Arizona. There's a handful of teams Florida, 349 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 1: but Michigan seven wins over ranked opponents, and they throttled 350 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:27,920 Speaker 1: some really good teams like Illinois. 351 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 352 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 2: and neon eastern nine am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio 353 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 2: FS one and the iHeartRadio app. 354 00:16:37,760 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 4: Hey, it's Rob Parker and Calvin Washington from The Odd 355 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 4: Couple on Fox Sports Radio. And in addition to hearing 356 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 4: us live weeknights from seven to ten pm Eastern on 357 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 4: Fox Sports Radio, we are excited to. 358 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 5: Announce brand new YouTube channel for the show. 359 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 6: That's right, you can now watch The Odd Couple live 360 00:16:55,560 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 6: on YouTube every day. 361 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:00,680 Speaker 4: All you gotta do search O Couble FSR on YouTube 362 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 4: again YouTube, just search Odd Couple FSR. 363 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:06,600 Speaker 5: Check us out on YouTube and subscribed. 364 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:13,840 Speaker 1: Dusty May, who is just dominating the Big Ten, Michigan's 365 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 1: head basketball coach. They've beaten thirteen straight Big Ten opponents 366 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:21,960 Speaker 1: and they're blowing people out the fighting a Line. I 367 00:17:21,960 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 1: had had Michigan's number for a while and they Clobberdam Friday. 368 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:27,440 Speaker 1: So Dusty May will be joining us as we get 369 00:17:27,480 --> 00:17:30,159 Speaker 1: ready to head into March Madness. 370 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 3: Here's j Mack with the news. Turn on the news. 371 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 2: This is the Herdline News. 372 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:39,560 Speaker 7: All right, Conna, let's start with some auto racing. I 373 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:42,440 Speaker 7: think you're gonna like this Michael Jordan. I mean, does 374 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:45,360 Speaker 7: the guy lose it anything? He just keeps winning. Yesterday, 375 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:49,200 Speaker 7: Tyler Reddick, who's a star driver on MJ's twenty three 376 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:53,639 Speaker 7: XI Racing team, made history by winning his third straight 377 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:56,920 Speaker 7: race to open the NASCAR season, holding off Shane Van 378 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 7: giggsbur and oh, not a good job by me over 379 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:02,680 Speaker 7: the final twenty laps of the Circuit of Americas to 380 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 7: seal the win. 381 00:18:03,880 --> 00:18:04,200 Speaker 8: Colin. 382 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:07,479 Speaker 7: Obviously, Jordan just dominates everything he touches, right, I mean 383 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:08,680 Speaker 7: the guy is. 384 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 3: This great, legendary great for NASCAR. 385 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 8: Yeah. 386 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:14,440 Speaker 1: Absolutely, And he's been fighting them and they've had a 387 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 1: little angst in the relationship, but it's tremendous for NASCAR. 388 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 7: Yeah, Hugh, huge week ahead as well. 389 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:22,919 Speaker 8: All right, let's quickly move to the NFL colin the 390 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 8: Cleveland Browns. 391 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 7: Everybody wants to know what they're doing at quarterbacks, at Shauduur's, 392 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:30,440 Speaker 7: at Deshaun Watson, Dylan Gabriel, What about Ty Simpson? Can 393 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:32,880 Speaker 7: we get Ty Simpson in the mix? There's an interesting 394 00:18:32,880 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 7: connection here. Simpson's dad, a coach, knows Todd munkin the 395 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 7: new Browns coach very well. And there's some speculation potentially 396 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:44,920 Speaker 7: the Browns picked their quarterback, maybe trade one or two 397 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:47,879 Speaker 7: of the other guys and go Ty Simpson. I don't 398 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:52,119 Speaker 7: totally see it, but given the connection of the family connection, 399 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:54,640 Speaker 7: I guess there's some potential for it. What do you think? 400 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 1: Well, probably not, because they drafted Dylan Gabriel and Shador 401 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:03,159 Speaker 1: Sanders last year. So my my hunch would be no. 402 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 1: But you know, I've said this about Simpson. He doesn't 403 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:11,159 Speaker 1: blow me away like I feel the same way I 404 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:14,199 Speaker 1: do about Jackson Dart. He's got a good arm, and 405 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:17,679 Speaker 1: he moves pretty well. Uh which he was a little bigger. 406 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:22,399 Speaker 1: There's no trait that I go wow, But Jackson Dart 407 00:19:23,359 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 1: is only one and a half percent cap hit to 408 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:28,159 Speaker 1: the Giants, So you can stack the roster around. And 409 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 1: when you get these guys, let's say Pittsburgh drafts him 410 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:33,160 Speaker 1: at twenty one, well, you're allowed to have a deeper rock. 411 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 1: Look at Caleb's roster in Chicago, look at bow Nick's roster, 412 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:38,840 Speaker 1: Look at Drake May's roster. Look at Seattle and Sam 413 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 1: Darnold with just a team. 414 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 3: Friendly quarterback deal. 415 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 1: So the truth is, when you get a Jackson Dart 416 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 1: or a ty Simpson, you have to bake in the 417 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 1: fact that they're going to have a better roster their 418 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:53,879 Speaker 1: first four years in the league than a lot of 419 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 1: teams they play. 420 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 3: We love Lamar. 421 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 1: Jackson, but when you start paying people what Lamar Jackson's making, 422 00:20:00,320 --> 00:20:03,840 Speaker 1: you've got to move off three starters. I mean, Minnesota 423 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:06,360 Speaker 1: right now, because they have to bring in another quarterback 424 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 1: is going to have to move off Aaron Jones. They're 425 00:20:08,200 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 1: going to move off Hard Rove, the defensive wineman who 426 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:14,840 Speaker 1: had a decent year. So I mean Jackson Dart with 427 00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:17,600 Speaker 1: one more. I mean, if if Scataboo and Neighbors can 428 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:19,479 Speaker 1: stay healthy, they get a tight end, they've got their 429 00:20:19,560 --> 00:20:20,159 Speaker 1: left tackle. 430 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 3: You know Giants will be pretty good. They'll have a 431 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:23,240 Speaker 3: very good roster. 432 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 1: So I think Simpson, if he goes to a functioning team, 433 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 1: could be interesting. 434 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 7: I'm just curious Dylan Gabriel. There's a lot of chatter 435 00:20:33,119 --> 00:20:36,239 Speaker 7: in Cleveland. He doesn't fit the Monkin profile. Given all 436 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:41,439 Speaker 7: the quarterbacks historically for Unkin, Dylan Gable is a trade piece. 437 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 7: I know you loved him at Oregon. Do you think 438 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:48,280 Speaker 7: he would actually be valuable? This is a terrible quarterback draft. 439 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 7: After then, there's a lot of questions. 440 00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 3: I don't, huh. 441 00:20:51,760 --> 00:20:54,479 Speaker 1: I think the one that's really that nobody's talking about 442 00:20:55,000 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 1: is Jimmy Garoppolo. M Jimmy Garoppolo, the Rams. He's not playing, 443 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 1: and the Rams are probably you know, they're going to 444 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 1: try to cut costs because Stafford's going to cost some money, 445 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:09,879 Speaker 1: right so there, and if the reports are true that 446 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 1: they're interested in Max Crosby, you know, the Rams, I 447 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 1: mean they're looking at the salary cap. Ledger, I think 448 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo is a guy that could go somewhere. You're 449 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:23,639 Speaker 1: not getting mobility, you're getting experienced. Can he just hold 450 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 1: down the fort somewhere for a year. That's a name 451 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:27,320 Speaker 1: to keep your eye on. 452 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 7: Okay, well, I'll just remind everybody where Dylan Gabriel's old 453 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:35,640 Speaker 7: coach ended up. How's our quarterback situation there? 454 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 8: Huh, keep an eye on that. Not breaking any news, 455 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:40,880 Speaker 8: just floating it out there. 456 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 3: All right. Jmack with the news. 457 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 2: Well that's the news, and thanks for stopping by the 458 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 2: Herd line. 459 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 1: Now, Well, they are crushing it and dominating the Big Ten. 460 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 1: Dust He May and the Wolverines are on a big 461 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:56,719 Speaker 1: time heater, one of the favorites to win it all, 462 00:21:56,720 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 1: and he'll be joining us next. 463 00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 464 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 2: and noone Easter not a em Pacific. 465 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 1: Well, he got the job a couple of years ago 466 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 1: and he has just smashed it at Michigan. Dusty May 467 00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:18,960 Speaker 1: is fifty four and twelve. They're on a heater against 468 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,840 Speaker 1: the Big Ten, which may be the best conference, and 469 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 1: he is joining us. I watched them play Friday. You 470 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:27,960 Speaker 1: know my first takeaway watching you Friday, I'm thinking, Okay, 471 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:31,399 Speaker 1: so he's rolling people. You're Mallanoi is a good team. 472 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:33,600 Speaker 1: They may have lost at UCLA, they're a good team, 473 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 1: and I'm thinking to myself, is that coach wondering, you're 474 00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 1: going to get into the tournament and you're going to 475 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:44,159 Speaker 1: get into close games, how do you prepare your team 476 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 1: for Okay, you're a big favorite, the pressure's all on 477 00:22:47,600 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 1: you in the tournament, and it's a four point game 478 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 1: with four minutes to go. Because that's the reality of 479 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:56,240 Speaker 1: the tournament, people get hot. Is there a way to 480 00:22:56,320 --> 00:23:00,199 Speaker 1: create pressurized moments when you're winning by an average to 481 00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:01,160 Speaker 1: twenty points a game. 482 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:06,239 Speaker 6: Well, it's less normal for us to feel like that 483 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 6: in those moments, but we've been in a few of 484 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 6: them and we've performed well. We've made big free throws, 485 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:13,879 Speaker 6: and it's such a contrast the last season, where every 486 00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 6: game was four points or less, or at least it seemed, 487 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:19,199 Speaker 6: And so we went into this year thinking that if 488 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 6: a game's under four points or less, there's a fifty 489 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 6: to fifty chance you're going to lose the game because 490 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:27,120 Speaker 6: you're playing against a like opponent, and so we've tried 491 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 6: to make sure that we weren't in these one possession games. 492 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:33,920 Speaker 8: But I do believe because we have the ability to score. 493 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:36,239 Speaker 6: At the rim and then also make three, so we 494 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 6: don't rely on low percentage shots to win, and. 495 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 8: Then defensively we're very sound. 496 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 6: We're I think we're behind Duke now and defensive efficiency 497 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,520 Speaker 6: in the country. And we also have guys that make 498 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,640 Speaker 6: better percentage free throws than they do normally. So those 499 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 6: things give you some hope and comfort, but hopefully we're 500 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 6: not in a one possession game early on. 501 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:57,919 Speaker 1: Especially so you started years ago in coaching where you 502 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 1: were going to AU tournament and maybe even high school. 503 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 1: Now it's more administrative, it's you know, it's nil, it's 504 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 1: portal stuff. Let mean just I mean, you're you're a 505 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 1: very youthful looking late forties. 506 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 3: Do you miss some of the AAU grind? Is the nil. 507 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,719 Speaker 1: Frustrating where you're sometimes recruiting your own players to stay? 508 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:19,439 Speaker 1: How do you? 509 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:19,879 Speaker 2: How do you? 510 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:21,160 Speaker 3: How's it land for you? 511 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 6: Just my nature I just to adjust and adapt to 512 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:29,119 Speaker 6: whatever I am and try to learn as much as 513 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,719 Speaker 6: I can about it and enjoy it. I've always enjoyed 514 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,359 Speaker 6: the different It's almost like the season ends and you 515 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 6: become a different type of employee where now you're a 516 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 6: recruiter and a developer, and then when the season's there, 517 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 6: you're trying to win games and you're scouting an opponent. 518 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 6: So I've always it's almost been like seasons where throughout 519 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:48,359 Speaker 6: the season there's three or four different seasons to our job, 520 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 6: and so the newness was. 521 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 8: Always I guess fresh. 522 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 6: And now when I go to city to recruit, I 523 00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 6: make sure I stop and see a couple maybe donors 524 00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,360 Speaker 6: who are who own their own businesses, because you might 525 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,680 Speaker 6: need them down line. 526 00:25:02,000 --> 00:25:03,320 Speaker 8: And so it's just different. 527 00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 6: You go meet with agents when you're in a certain 528 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 6: city are big agencies because you know over the course 529 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 6: of time they're going to have good players and you 530 00:25:11,119 --> 00:25:13,360 Speaker 6: want them to you want to have a relationship with them, 531 00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 6: So the time is the same. 532 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:15,959 Speaker 8: It's just different. 533 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 6: But I haven't forgotten those eight am to midnight sitting 534 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 6: in a gym in Vegas, wondering what day it is 535 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 6: and living off Glizzies and popcorn. 536 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 1: By the way, I used to cover you and LV 537 00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:29,840 Speaker 1: my first job out of college, and I would see 538 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 1: a see of coaches at the Las Vegas Classic, and 539 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 1: you're describing it aptly. So excellenaborg Is are best player. 540 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 1: You got four different guys that score in double figures. 541 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 1: You're very balanced. For anybody that hasn't watched Michigan they're balanced, 542 00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 1: and they're big. Your best player cutting on pro. You 543 00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 1: ended up convincing him, Okay, come up to Michigan and 544 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 1: a lot of people. 545 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 3: You know, that's not easy. You're staring at You're staring 546 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:54,840 Speaker 3: at NBA money. 547 00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:57,359 Speaker 1: Most of your players want to play, they want to 548 00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 1: play professional. What was your sales pitch for a kid 549 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,240 Speaker 1: that could have gone pro? What was your pets to 550 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 1: stay in college and go to Michigan. 551 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:07,640 Speaker 8: Well, if you take the NBA. 552 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 6: Out of this, the stars were aligned for us a 553 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,960 Speaker 6: yaxell that we lost Danny and Vlad. We had a 554 00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,879 Speaker 6: proof of concept that we played our bigs in a 555 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 6: unique style and way where he could benefit. And then 556 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 6: he was familiar with our staff, our program because we 557 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 6: competed against him, he knew some of our guys. So literally, 558 00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 6: I see everything lined up perfectly except his desire to 559 00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 6: go to the NBA. And so he was looking for 560 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,800 Speaker 6: a first round guarantee and he once he realized that 561 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 6: he wasn't he couldn't get a team to give him 562 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:39,919 Speaker 6: a guarantee that they were going to draft him in 563 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:41,959 Speaker 6: the first round, then he was going back to college. 564 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:45,000 Speaker 6: Now he did get a couple guarantees for the early 565 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 6: second round, where teams said they would guarantee him and 566 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 6: give him multi year contract, but he felt like he 567 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,640 Speaker 6: needed another year of college, especially at this level playing 568 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 6: against the biggest, best, strongest, and wanted to prove himself 569 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 6: in the Big ten. 570 00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 8: And he held. 571 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,119 Speaker 6: Michigan in a high regard because he had lived in 572 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 6: Ohio when he was a young player, and so literally, 573 00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,680 Speaker 6: I don't think everything could have lined up any better 574 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 6: than it did for us and him. But we had 575 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,919 Speaker 6: we loved our roster before, so when he decided not 576 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,640 Speaker 6: to come to college, I mean decided to come back 577 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 6: to college, we felt like our pieces didn't necessarily fit. 578 00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 6: We were big, We had three guys that we thought 579 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 6: would be our three of our best players, that had 580 00:27:23,640 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 6: all played the center position at their previous stop. So 581 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,680 Speaker 6: we thought this, there's this is higher risk, high reward, 582 00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:33,640 Speaker 6: but it could go poorly in this era. And his 583 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 6: salary was well publicized, so would how would that have it? 584 00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:39,240 Speaker 6: You know, what type of impact would that have on 585 00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 6: our locker room when he's paid so much more than 586 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,240 Speaker 6: anyone else. And we were very open and honest with 587 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 6: all of it, and and he came back and just 588 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,440 Speaker 6: wanted to be one of the guys. I think that's 589 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:51,680 Speaker 6: probably the biggest reason it's worked. That he hasn't tried 590 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 6: to be bigger than the team. He just simply wanted 591 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,600 Speaker 6: to be just one of many and try to do 592 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:57,600 Speaker 6: something special together. 593 00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:00,640 Speaker 1: You know, I said with the Nil, well, I think 594 00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 1: not that it's saved college basketball, but I said that 595 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 1: the Billy Donovan Florida Gator teams, to me were great 596 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 1: college basketball teams that could have worked in any era, 597 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 1: and then there was a dry spell for about fifteen years, 598 00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 1: a lot of one and done. I thought the NBA 599 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 1: demonized college basketball. It was a mistake. I never liked 600 00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:19,639 Speaker 1: the G League. In fact, you can't name a single 601 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:23,600 Speaker 1: NBA star from it Ignite over time. You know, I 602 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,000 Speaker 1: understand kids not wanting to go to college, but I 603 00:28:26,040 --> 00:28:30,040 Speaker 1: think the coaching in college helps players. I also think 604 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:33,879 Speaker 1: playing in intense arenas, that's like NBA level stuff. You 605 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 1: don't get that in the G League or Ignite. You go, 606 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 1: you know, your game Friday. That place is a zoo. 607 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 1: It's loud, you can't hear it's it's a caustic. So 608 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 1: my take is Nil. His actually European guys coming to 609 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:51,880 Speaker 1: the States, keeping guys like your best player in college. 610 00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:55,360 Speaker 1: I feel like when I watch college basketball today it 611 00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,720 Speaker 1: is noticeably deeper and better than five years ago. 612 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 3: But I'm you know, I'm a layman here. 613 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 1: Does it feel like when you're on when you're watching 614 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 1: basketball and tape, it's like there's just more NBA dudes 615 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:08,200 Speaker 1: on the floor now in college? 616 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, I think what you the things you said, the ote, 617 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 6: the ignite, they're the part of the reason things are 618 00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 6: the way they are. And if you just take all 619 00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 6: the peripheral stuff away, the actual product is better than 620 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:26,480 Speaker 6: it's ever been. There are more teams, there's more great players. 621 00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 6: It's more competitive than ever. I know when I turn 622 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 6: I'll turn on the TV tonight and watch a couple 623 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 6: of games and I'll be blown away at how good 624 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 6: the teams, the coaching. And then even if these guys 625 00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:40,440 Speaker 6: come to college at twenty one or twenty two, they're 626 00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 6: learning a. 627 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 8: Lot as far as being professionals. 628 00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:45,880 Speaker 6: Even you take the classroom out of it, what we 629 00:29:46,040 --> 00:29:49,880 Speaker 6: learn from eighteen to twenty four changes the way we think, 630 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 6: the way we move as adults. And so I think 631 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 6: the longer people are on college campus is the better 632 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 6: for them. Now is it better for an eighteen year 633 00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 6: old freshman. Know that this has always been a meritocracy. 634 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 6: The best players have always been able to get the 635 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:06,800 Speaker 6: scholarships or the nil, whatever the case, and that's never 636 00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 6: going to change. 637 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 8: And it's the same way in the NBA. 638 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 6: The best players get the best contracts and play the longest, 639 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:13,800 Speaker 6: and then they have to say when it comes to 640 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 6: the players union and all the decisions that affect those 641 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 6: below them. 642 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,960 Speaker 1: All right, Dusty May, coach of Michigan, big win over 643 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 1: the fighting of LINEI. Now they're talking about this whole 644 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 1: expansion and listen, college football playoff the networks wanted. I'm 645 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:29,520 Speaker 1: not naive here. 646 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:34,200 Speaker 3: I get the whole game, but I kind of like 647 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 3: the way it is. 648 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you when you hear about March expansion. 649 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:39,600 Speaker 3: What do you make of that? 650 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 6: Once again, if I died and came back as the 651 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 6: cizar of college basketball, I wouldn't expand the tournament right now. 652 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 6: But if there's a compelling case of why it's better 653 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 6: for the enterprise of college basketball, then I would be 654 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 6: all ears. I think every time there's been change, it's 655 00:30:56,240 --> 00:31:00,320 Speaker 6: been met with resistance based on nostalgia. Yeah, and if 656 00:31:00,360 --> 00:31:02,959 Speaker 6: the TV networks want it, if it gets more, if 657 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 6: it improves the experience for more players, then and it 658 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 6: keeps teams more engaged for longer periods, which makes the 659 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 6: games meaningful of February, then it wouldn't be hard for 660 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 6: me to change my opinion or be persuaded in that way. 661 00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 8: I just don't know. 662 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,120 Speaker 6: I haven't put enough time in it because I don't 663 00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:24,720 Speaker 6: have any any say so, I just I take it 664 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 6: for what it is. If we expand, great, If we don't, great, 665 00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:29,160 Speaker 6: We'll have our team ready to play ball. 666 00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:30,719 Speaker 8: That's kind of how I look at all these issues. 667 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I like our staff. Cut some video of Michigan. 668 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 1: Your guy's size is incredible for them. I mean, you 669 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:39,480 Speaker 1: guys are just big, big and intimidating. Okay, finally, you 670 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 1: had a viral moment against Michigan State earlier this year. 671 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 1: I'm going to go out on a limb here and 672 00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 1: say you actually enjoyed this. It was you were silently 673 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:49,760 Speaker 1: taunting Spartan fans. 674 00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:51,200 Speaker 3: Take me to that moment. 675 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 6: Yeah, Colin, it's it's completely I'm completely out of. 676 00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 8: How I am by nature when I'm when I'm coaching. 677 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 6: Now where I'm a small, fiery Irish guy that probably 678 00:32:03,440 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 6: got more. 679 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:08,960 Speaker 8: Fights growing up than I had easy days, And once. 680 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 6: I got into coaching and had a family, I basically 681 00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,600 Speaker 6: just left all that behind and became a borderline pacifist. 682 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,280 Speaker 8: So now I just when people have road rage, I 683 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 8: just kind of shrug it off. 684 00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 6: If people get mad in the line, I just shrug 685 00:32:19,720 --> 00:32:20,960 Speaker 6: it off and let them go in front of me. 686 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 6: So if a bunch of eighteen to twenty two year 687 00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:28,240 Speaker 6: olds who were probably overserved beginning at eight am, what 688 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 6: a yell and scream in cynities at me, let them 689 00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:30,840 Speaker 6: go ahead. 690 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:32,320 Speaker 8: It's all part of the game. 691 00:32:32,480 --> 00:32:35,720 Speaker 6: I enjoy watching European basketball and the stuff. 692 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 8: That goes on with ass so I think it's part 693 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:37,200 Speaker 8: of it. 694 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,840 Speaker 6: There's nothing any of those people can say that's going 695 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 6: to get a rise out of me. So yes, in 696 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:44,840 Speaker 6: a way, I did enjoy it, but just for the 697 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 6: fact that those kids are never going to be able 698 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:47,760 Speaker 6: to get under my skin. 699 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I'm married to an Irish wife, you're an 700 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 1: Irish guy. 701 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:56,280 Speaker 3: Overserved happens. That's just life, is it? 702 00:32:56,320 --> 00:33:00,080 Speaker 8: Not all part of it? 703 00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 3: Great? 704 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:04,160 Speaker 1: Seeing a great meeting your coach, Congratulations, you put together 705 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:08,320 Speaker 1: a daunting front court and a really interesting program. And 706 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:10,320 Speaker 1: congrats and I love to have you on the show today. 707 00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 8: Thank you. Con I enjoyed. I appreciate having me on. 708 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 1: Dusty May coach of Michigan, I'm telling you right now, 709 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:19,760 Speaker 1: and we are staff at a great job cutting some 710 00:33:19,800 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 1: of the video. When you watch Michigan play Jay Mack, 711 00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 1: you love college basketball. They are big, they are I mean, 712 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 1: they are a big front line. 713 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:29,520 Speaker 7: They've been at cash Cow most of the season because 714 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,640 Speaker 7: they just obliterate teams. I mean, their resume is incredible. 715 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 7: I think they probably win the title. Rematch against Duke 716 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 7: will be fun. Also, like Florida a lot. 717 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 8: They're they're dangerous at all. 718 00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 1: All right, I was go seeing coach Raheem Mostert. Way 719 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 1: to go, young man. You crushed at Matt Hassel Becuzola's Hey, 720 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 1: we'll see it tomorrow on a Tuesday. 721 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 3: It's the hurt