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Speaker 1: In the Lab, a Texans podcast that takes a different

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Speaker 1: look at things. Drew Doherty and John Harris have their

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Speaker 1: lab coats and goggles on and the Bunsen burners burning.

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Speaker 1: Here's Drew, John, it's been nine months, So baby coming.

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Speaker 2: But I guess in a sense there is.

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Speaker 3: A big, beautiful baby that's gonna get delivered at noon

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Speaker 3: on Saturday, and that beautiful baby is the start of

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Speaker 3: the NFL season for the Texans.

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Speaker 2: We can't wait to welcome you, baby.

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Speaker 3: Re'll love you, We're gonna hold you, tight feed you,

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Speaker 3: will burp you, and we'll change your diapers when when

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Speaker 3: when they need changing. But I'm excited, John, aren't you

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Speaker 3: excited about this nine month excursion?

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Speaker 4: Well when you said nine months, I didn't. I didn't

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Speaker 4: immediately go ooh, football baby, but then the hit.

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Speaker 5: Then that thought hit me like right before you said it.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, I'm hoping that this twenty or football baby

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Speaker 4: that is about to be unearthed on Sunday is gonna

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Speaker 4: be It's gonna be a fun one.

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Speaker 5: And I think, you know.

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Speaker 4: We talked to Nick Casario earlier this week and one

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Speaker 4: of the things that I asked him was is there

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Speaker 4: even with all the planning and all the preparation, everything

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Speaker 4: that you do going out and getting free agents and

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Speaker 4: trading for different players and putting in constructing this roster

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Speaker 4: is there's still a little bit of curiosity that you

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Speaker 4: have week one on Sunday what you're gonna see.

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Speaker 5: And I think that's the way I kind of feel

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Speaker 5: like I have a.

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Speaker 4: Feeling that I know what over time this team is

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Speaker 4: probably gonna do. Now, injuries obviously change the trajectory of things,

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Speaker 4: but if all things stay relatively healthy, like you have

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Speaker 4: an idea of what it probably should be.

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Speaker 5: But I still think week.

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Speaker 4: One there's that thought of huh, oh, I didn't think

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Speaker 4: about that, or ooh, I like the look of that.

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Speaker 5: I didn't put that together. I'm a little surprised by.

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Speaker 5: And then there's some other things going yeah, that's to

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Speaker 4: So to me, there's always this level of curiosity of

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Speaker 4: you know, it's a boy, you know it's a girl.

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Speaker 5: But that's really kind of where it stops.

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Speaker 4: After that, it's well, you know what blonde hair, blue hair,

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Speaker 4: green hair, you know, you just never know. And I

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Speaker 4: think there's that curiosity that makes it really really cool

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Speaker 4: to go into week one of any football season.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean in a dumped down way, much less

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Speaker 3: you know, much less important and let lesser stakes. It

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Speaker 3: is like a new baby. I mean, like I just

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Speaker 3: mentioned all burpying, the change of the diaper. You're gonna

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Speaker 3: have days where you you got a full diaper, you know,

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Speaker 3: and you gotta change It's it's gonna be happy moments.

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Speaker 3: There's gonna be sad moments, all that stuff.

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Speaker 2: So I'm pumped.

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Speaker 3: I mean walking off the field in Baltimore round out

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Speaker 3: the second half, starting to see it's not gonna be

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Speaker 3: there's not gonna be much more football play this year

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Speaker 3: for the Texas.

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Speaker 2: You know, it was it was a.

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Speaker 3: Game at the half, but things kind of got out

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Speaker 3: it was. But you all you knew, man, the future

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Speaker 3: is bright because of the guy under center, the pieces

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm jacked that it's here. And I don't

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Speaker 3: When we walk off the field, I didn't know or

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Speaker 3: after the fact. We've discussed this time and time and

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Speaker 3: time again. But just with that that lens of looking

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Speaker 3: back and thinking about where we were, man, you added

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Speaker 3: some firepower on both sides of the ball. And I

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Speaker 3: didn't mention as as he's a Shire either, but it's exciting.

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Speaker 3: It's a really exciting and we've talked about it last

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Speaker 3: week on this podcast. But Derek Stingley Junior's another cause

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Speaker 3: for excitement. Go back and check that one out if

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Speaker 3: But it's just wild to think about all that the

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Speaker 4: And you know where I like to have my bread butter,

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Speaker 4: and that's in the draft too. And I think after

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Speaker 4: for a lot of fans as well, whatever they do

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Speaker 4: just gonna well, we'll read benefits to that twenty twenty

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Speaker 4: of a mindset that the defensive structure is going to

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Speaker 5: Whoa, whoa, whoa.

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Speaker 4: We've got to have him out there. He's got to

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Speaker 4: be the number one corner opposite Derek Stingley. We don't

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Speaker 4: now let's think about putting Jaln Petrie down.

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Speaker 5: Oh okay. Now, I like to look at this and

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Speaker 5: you just think about what that.

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Speaker 4: One decision, based on the progress and the play of

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Speaker 4: then you throw in Blake Fisher, who is taking reps

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Speaker 4: all that up to say, yeah, there were a lot

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Speaker 5: Whatever. But I think this draft could end up being

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Speaker 5: Not really sure.

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Speaker 4: not one of them was drafted in the first round.

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Speaker 4: So it's gonna be interesting to watch how the rookies

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Speaker 4: I think, having played games where they played in college,

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Speaker 4: I don't worry about them shrinking in the moment.

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Speaker 5: I don't worry about that whatsoever. I do.

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Speaker 4: But I do know, and you know, because we've seen many,

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Speaker 4: many players come to this organization from a lot of

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Speaker 4: It can happen in Week one, but then you get

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Speaker 4: You know, think about last year we're going to Baltimore.

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Speaker 4: You got new head coach, new offense coordinator, new defensive coordinator,

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Speaker 5: the Ravens in second half kind of ran away with it.

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Speaker 4: But you walked out of there going, hey, I think

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Speaker 4: You know people ask but you have been asked million times,

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Speaker 3: So you just brought up you know, who's gonna make

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Speaker 3: talking about a Texans win over the Colts to open

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Speaker 3: the twenty twenty four season. Who will your Cream of

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Speaker 3: the Crop Award? Wouldner be the of the crop? Thank

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Speaker 3: you much for man Rady Savage. Has been a while

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Speaker 3: since we've gotten to hear that. It's been January nine months.

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Speaker 3: Going back to the baby thing. But John which Texan.

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Speaker 3: It's the cream of the Crop award. If Houston is

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Speaker 4: I've got two, but you understand why I have two.

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Speaker 4: It's Henry Totoa and Aziz al Shire. Yeah, because I

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Speaker 4: think to beat this team, those two players have to

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Speaker 4: play a pristine game. They got to play it upstairs

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Speaker 4: got to be smart. What formations are they looking at?

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Speaker 4: But then they got to trust their eyes and what

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Speaker 4: they see. I think that Anthony Richardson in Week two

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Speaker 5: I discipline was all over the place. They weren't reading

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Speaker 4: And I think about the Colts in Week eighteen, there

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Speaker 4: gashing the Texans. There are also moments in which the

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Speaker 4: gonna be plenty of RPO stuff. There's gonna be plenty

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Speaker 4: to be a linebacker imperative this week. Like up on

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Speaker 4: the board, that's got to be it. Those two guys

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 4: I do think that Texas defensive front can hold up

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Speaker 5: They're bigger, they're stronger.

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Speaker 4: He's really good the offense Cordner and head coach of

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Speaker 4: And those linebackers have to shut those things down and

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Speaker 3: All right, those are good ones. I'm gonna go with

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Speaker 3: because good one. You can argue that this Colt's interior

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Speaker 3: those guys are game wreckers, and you gott us keep

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Speaker 3: that pressure out of the middle. It affects every quarterback,

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Speaker 2: They're in the middle. And you know I'm leaving names out.

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Speaker 3: You can also if you want to get not squirrely,

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Speaker 2: I know you liked him a lot.

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Speaker 3: That guy's I hate that he's in the division because

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Speaker 3: But I think that guy's got to be counted four two.

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Speaker 5: Well, John, Yeah, absolutely. I mean Lat two's gonna face

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Speaker 5: And and Lot Too works at he works at it.

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Speaker 4: And that's what Max Crosby has. So you know he's

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Speaker 5: But then I see a division opponent.

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Speaker 2: With the Colts. Are the Titans of the Jags?

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Speaker 3: Who's your guy with I know we're talking about the Colts,

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Speaker 2: Was it de and Andre Sweatija spears, Jiji spears? Okay?

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Speaker 5: We'll see with the Jags.

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Speaker 5: It was Muma for the Titans. It was was Ty.

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Speaker 5: Man.

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Speaker 4: When I saw him, I saw the culture gonna lot

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Speaker 5: I was like, I can't believe this. I was so mad,

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Speaker 2: Well, it's finally here, man, I'm pumped. Can't wait. Dude.

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Speaker 3: It's gonna be chilly. It's like seventy degrees in Indianapolis.

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Speaker 3: So I guess they're gonna have the roof open. I

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Speaker 5: Yes, when they've had that thing open, Jim Merse will

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Speaker 5: tell us at some point, Yes he will. He always

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Speaker 2: It would be the upper quartile of the top quartile.

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Speaker 5: So it's gonna be fun already. Everybody that's that.

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Speaker 2: I'd love to take.

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Speaker 3: I'd love to take Fred for that, but that's all

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Speaker 3: Pendrick Pendry Aston Pea Peas. Yeah, sure, another listing. What's up, guys,

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Speaker 3: I love you too. All right man, well, we'll talk

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Speaker 2: This has been Texans in the lab.

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