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Speaker 1: are you doing, man, How you guys doing? Nick Capp

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Speaker 1: and see you again? But thank you, thank you. I

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Speaker 1: saw you just last week. I know time. Clarence is working, man,

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Speaker 1: but that's okay, I mean, that's okay. I'm talking about nothing.

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Speaker 1: when one time when when the Cowboys were the coach

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Speaker 1: that was the year that they they coached the probol.

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Speaker 1: You know, well they've coached several years ago because they

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Speaker 1: that that it's not going to be the case, because

424
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Speaker 1: it hasn't been the case since he's been here. So

425
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Speaker 1: it's like, let's cross train everyone. Let's play him at guards.

426
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Speaker 1: Any center is gonna have to play guard de vice

427
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Speaker 1: first and all that we're just gonna go into this

428
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Speaker 1: knowing that this is going to happen. But I don't

429
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Speaker 1: at the end of the day, I don't believe Terrence

430
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Speaker 1: Steele is really going to be playing left guard. I

431
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Speaker 1: think he ends up playing tackle. If they say best five,

432
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Speaker 1: I think Terrence Steele will be in the best five.

433
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Speaker 1: That's what I believe. Derried Jones does not think he

434
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Speaker 1: wanted the best five a tackle or best to a tackle,

435
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Speaker 1: which is you know, and the idea that and I'm

436
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Speaker 1: not disagreeing with you what you're seeing at the end

437
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Speaker 1: of the day, Tyres injury history is probably gonna make

438
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Speaker 1: that the case anyway, right, But going into what the

439
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Speaker 1: fact that we're talking about cross training Steel at left

440
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Speaker 1: guard or even give him guard rips, tells you he's

441
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Speaker 1: nuts the main guy tackle. Because if he's the main

442
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Speaker 1: guy tackle, if he's the guy you think it's gonna

443
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Speaker 1: be your starting right tackle, you're not giving him guard rips.

444
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Speaker 1: You're not You're not giving you know, you're starting right tackle,

445
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Speaker 1: which is interesting. I'm just saying that you're not. I mean,

446
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Speaker 1: if he's your starting tackle, why are you giving him

447
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Speaker 1: guard If he's gonna be your start attack or why

448
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Speaker 1: are you giving the guard rips? I mean, the tackles

449
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Speaker 1: are the most important players out there. Go ahead, I

450
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Speaker 1: was gonna say. Mike McCarthy said multiple times last year

451
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Speaker 1: that he thinks that Terrence Steal's gonna be here for

452
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Speaker 1: a long time, to the point where like I remember

453
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Speaker 1: it being like a little surprised by it because I'm

454
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Speaker 1: like still looking him as, oh, this is a undrafted guy,

455
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Speaker 1: Is he really? I think they're more of Hey, if

456
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Speaker 1: we're going in the season today, we gotta cross train

457
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Speaker 1: him there because right now, what do we have a

458
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Speaker 1: left guard? Chuma Udoga? Did I say that? Right? I

459
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Speaker 1: think so? Yeah, So I think they want to try

460
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Speaker 1: and cover themselves. But I'll be very surprised if they

461
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Speaker 1: get to this draft they don't draft the guard. I

462
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Speaker 1: think also out of respect. You know they talked about

463
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Speaker 1: that with Zeke. You know, that's why they don't give

464
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Speaker 1: him a deal. It was a low ball with that.

465
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Speaker 1: Of respect is a big deal, and it's gonna be

466
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Speaker 1: a big deal for Tyrn Smith. Out of respect, you say,

467
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Speaker 1: all right, here's your contract and just detailed. I mean

468
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Speaker 1: every game he plays is almost a million dollars and

469
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Speaker 1: you can make six million or you can make seventeen.

470
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Speaker 1: But this is how you get do all that. And

471
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Speaker 1: by the way, you're a backup. No. I mean they're

472
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Speaker 1: not going to do that to him. They're gonna say,

473
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Speaker 1: all right, this is the deal. You've been here a

474
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Speaker 1: long time, future Hall of famer, and this is how

475
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Speaker 1: you make this money. Well, but they don't have to

476
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Speaker 1: say anything at all. But they're saying right now that

477
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Speaker 1: he's left tackle. But that's you have to say that

478
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Speaker 1: because you just gave him the contract. But I mean,

479
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Speaker 1: if it's best five, I don't think he will be

480
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Speaker 1: So let me ask this most space on what you're

481
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Speaker 1: talking about with Tyrant's money. Terran Steele is coming up

482
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Speaker 1: and they'd like to negotiate. So you know, you pay

483
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Speaker 1: guards a lot less than you pay tackles. Is any

484
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Speaker 1: of that any of that be I don't. I don't

485
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Speaker 1: date the people. I don't think they're trying to lowball.

486
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Speaker 1: This is a year early. Let's let's let's try to

487
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Speaker 1: crows trading mid guards. So what do you have to

488
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Speaker 1: come up with? Tackle? You know we don't have to

489
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Speaker 1: pay him. I don't I don't see that. I don't

490
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Speaker 1: think they're being that uh calculated, is looking into next

491
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Speaker 1: year and say we we're gonna cross trade him, guards,

492
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Speaker 1: gonna lower's time. I don't think he's gonna get my

493
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Speaker 1: great tackle money. I mean, at this point, you know

494
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Speaker 1: how much money you think you're gonna get a tackle?

495
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Speaker 1: Did you have to try to little ball him? But

496
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Speaker 1: you're early. I don't think he would be a good

497
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Speaker 1: guard or not that either he's too tall. He's too tall,

498
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Speaker 1: but and I guess get him back to the Tyrens.

499
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Speaker 1: But my conversations with with people in the front office

500
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Speaker 1: and not Jerry Jones, is that they think ter Tyren

501
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Speaker 1: Smith is a better pass blocker Terrence, which is all

502
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Speaker 1: that might be great for the first series of of

503
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:48,040
Speaker 1: the season were running the football. I thought that was

504
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Speaker 1: the thing. And they think he can be They think,

505
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Speaker 1: you know, if he's cractic, he can be as good

506
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Speaker 1: a running block. I'm I'm gonna say what I was told. Okay,

507
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Speaker 1: here's what I what I don't understand, and I'm I'm

508
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Speaker 1: definitely in the minority in this Turren. I mean, if

509
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Speaker 1: it's best five, then why have a really good tackle?

510
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Speaker 1: We'll say Tyrance healthy, Why have a good tackle as

511
00:24:07,560 --> 00:24:09,800
Speaker 1: your swing tackle, and you're trying to figure out what's

512
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,040
Speaker 1: going on at left guard when you know Tyler Smith

513
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Speaker 1: can play left guard. I mean, he's gonna be here

514
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Speaker 1: ten years. Okay, fine, So what if the first two

515
00:24:16,760 --> 00:24:20,119
Speaker 1: aren't fully at left tackle like he can do it?

516
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Speaker 1: I mean, so if that's your best five, why not

517
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Speaker 1: slide him in there? Because I do think there's a

518
00:24:23,560 --> 00:24:25,160
Speaker 1: good chance that that ends up happening if they weren't

519
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Speaker 1: to draft somebody high enough. Yeah, here's a quote. Here's

520
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Speaker 1: the quote though from this was the one when it

521
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:31,520
Speaker 1: first raised my eyes when he said it. This is

522
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Speaker 1: at training camp last August, last August fifteenth, Mike McCarthy goes,

523
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Speaker 1: you just got to be so impressed with Terrence. Two

524
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Speaker 1: years in a row. He's had a tremendous offseason. I

525
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Speaker 1: think Terrence is someone that has a chance to be

526
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Speaker 1: an anchor over at right tackle for us for a

527
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Speaker 1: long time. And this is before the scene started. There's

528
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Speaker 1: nothing that happened during last season that would go yeah,

529
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Speaker 1: I bet you they're changing their tone now like there's

530
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Speaker 1: nothing that he did. So I find it hard to

531
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Speaker 1: believe that the coaching STAF doesn't think now obviously knew

532
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:56,920
Speaker 1: offensive line coach now and so he's gonna have his

533
00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:58,760
Speaker 1: own saying it. But I find it hard to believe

534
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Speaker 1: that Terrence still isn't going to be here here starting

535
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Speaker 1: right tackle. I went back and we were talking about

536
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Speaker 1: the players lounging our text chat, and I said, guys,

537
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Speaker 1: I'm really not going to stress over what's being talked

538
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:12,320
Speaker 1: about in March, because we're talking about seventeen game schedule.

539
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,560
Speaker 1: People are gonna get hurt. And then one of the

540
00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:18,159
Speaker 1: players here, Tyren Smith, we know is not going to

541
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Speaker 1: play seventeen because this is just it's just the bottom

542
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Speaker 1: line facts. We've got half a decade right now to

543
00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:27,160
Speaker 1: prove it. So they can tell us all this stuff here,

544
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 1: but the reality is we know this is the line

545
00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:33,120
Speaker 1: that they want to put out here. It ain't gonna

546
00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 1: be seventeen games with that lineup because you know that

547
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Speaker 1: it makes sense to have three guys that are all

548
00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,160
Speaker 1: offensive tackles. I mean, you also got to develop somebody

549
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 1: else behind them. And I'm for when Tyron goes. I'm

550
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:46,679
Speaker 1: totally fine with that. And less Terrence Steele's off season

551
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:51,960
Speaker 1: of maybe playing guard changes his body type or he's

552
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 1: trying to do that. Always think about Tyrone Crawford. Honestly,

553
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:56,920
Speaker 1: I know I've said this on here maybe before, but

554
00:25:57,080 --> 00:26:00,240
Speaker 1: other show of just Crawford never knew what he was

555
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 1: going to do going into the offseason tackle in you know,

556
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,280
Speaker 1: losing weight, gaining weight and all that, and he was

557
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 1: because you know, these position flex guys are good to have,

558
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,479
Speaker 1: but it also kind of its kind of stunts them

559
00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:13,119
Speaker 1: from from maybe taking it to another level coming off

560
00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 1: an injury. Yeah, so you have to also see he'd

561
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 1: look good. I mean I've seen some of him on

562
00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 1: IG on Big Duke's IG. He's looking pretty good. Yeah,

563
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:24,560
Speaker 1: you know, coming off to injury. And I mean it

564
00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 1: is different between an office line and a wide receiver

565
00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 1: in the cutting and all of the stuff have to

566
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Speaker 1: he'll be ready to go. What about center Tyler Bias,

567
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Speaker 1: I mean he's coming off and making a Pro Bowl.

568
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think that they would be trying

569
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Speaker 1: to go in another direction there. I think what it

570
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:42,160
Speaker 1: comes down to and and just reading about because I'm

571
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:43,440
Speaker 1: not going to see an act like I just study

572
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 1: all of these draft prospects, but there is a lot

573
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Speaker 1: of guard slash center with a lot of these prospects

574
00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:51,240
Speaker 1: guys you can get second third round things like that.

575
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Speaker 1: I think that's what they would like to get, is

576
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Speaker 1: they to get up draft somebody maybe second third, fourth

577
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Speaker 1: round that they feel like can be a guard, can

578
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Speaker 1: be your backup center if needed, and then go from there.

579
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Speaker 1: But um, I don't know. I think Tyler she'll be

580
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 1: the center here for for a while. I think he'll

581
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Speaker 1: get a second contract. Well, my conversations, they like him,

582
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 1: they're they're they're not concerned about the center position. Yeah.

583
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Speaker 1: I mean I think if you get another Connor McGovern

584
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Speaker 1: type of guy and hope that he doesn't get hurt

585
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 1: his first year and all that, which I think really

586
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Speaker 1: kind of hurt him there. But but that type of guy,

587
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Speaker 1: you know, second third round, Yeah, yeah, I'll be a

588
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Speaker 1: first round Yeah. I think, Well, I'm just what I'm doing.

589
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Speaker 1: There's a position flexut on guard and love it. I

590
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Speaker 1: mean at twenty six. So the pro shop may not

591
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Speaker 1: love it to sell the jersey or whatever, but man,

592
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Speaker 1: you get me another Tyler Smith at twenty six or

593
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Speaker 1: you know, with in this case probably more center guard

594
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Speaker 1: than guard tackle. But I think that would be great.

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641
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Speaker 1: talking about the Cowboys draft is coming up here. They've

642
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:26,719
Speaker 1: done some good free agency works, so that next thing

643
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 1: to tackle is the draft, where the Cowboys under Will

644
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 1: McClay have done an outstanding job of drafting players and

645
00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,840
Speaker 1: getting Pro Bowl talent out of them. So we've got

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Speaker 1: John mchodat the Athletic, Nick Eatmon Dallas Cowboys dot com

647
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Speaker 1: and Clared till fort Or Star Telegram on New he scrugs.

648
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 1: D line is still an area I just really really

649
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 1: want to see them addressed, either the first night or

650
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 1: day two. I'm a Cowboy historian, and I go back

651
00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:57,720
Speaker 1: and I look at all five championships. They had outstanding

652
00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 1: play on the defensive line here, and they've got to

653
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,160
Speaker 1: find a way to stop the run because, in my opinion,

654
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 1: when I look at how you beat the Cowboys. The

655
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 1: past couple of years, it's been teams have been able

656
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 1: to run the bow on, especially in the playoffs. So

657
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:13,360
Speaker 1: D line first round thoughts, love it. I just think

658
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 1: with a lot of Cowboys fans, a lot of people

659
00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 1: have followed the Cowboys, there's probably a little bit of

660
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,560
Speaker 1: a bad taste because the last time that they spent

661
00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,360
Speaker 1: a significant pick on the defensive tackle spot, it's been

662
00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 1: you know, it's Tristan Hill. It didn't work out obviously,

663
00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 1: but I don't think that should get you to stop

664
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Speaker 1: doing that. I think that that's one of the if

665
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 1: you if you list their starting lineup right now, I

666
00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 1: think d tackle is the one spot where you're like, man,

667
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 1: they could certainly use another young guy to put next

668
00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:41,000
Speaker 1: to Osa that you have here for I mean, Neville Gallamore,

669
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:43,440
Speaker 1: this is prized last year with the Cowboys, Jonathan Haggins,

670
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 1: it's a one year deal. So what do you have left?

671
00:31:45,400 --> 00:31:48,280
Speaker 1: Then you have Osa, you have Quentin Bohannah. I mean,

672
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 1: you could definitely use some more beef in the stop.

673
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 1: You can also use some more beef in the middle there.

674
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 1: That would make a ton of sense. If the right

675
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 1: guys there that Brian Bercy from from Clemson. Yeah. Absolutely.

676
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:04,000
Speaker 1: I mean it's like Clarence said when we started the show.

677
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 1: I mean what they've done is, you know, free agency,

678
00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 1: they've put band aids on most of the positions, and

679
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 1: that'll be fine going into the draft. And I think that,

680
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:16,320
Speaker 1: you know, going into the first couple rounds of the draft,

681
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 1: if you don't touch this position, in this position, you're fine.

682
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:20,440
Speaker 1: That's that's what free agency is supposed to be. And

683
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 1: I think that they've done that. But yeah, defensive tackle,

684
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 1: I mean, if the guy, if a guy falls to

685
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 1: you there, or you know, something that you just feel

686
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 1: like you have to have. Yeah. The good thing about

687
00:32:31,000 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 1: picking at twenty six is I think is it's gonna

688
00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,719
Speaker 1: come down to is this guy ready to play right now?

689
00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 1: Does he come in and just play? And so if

690
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,800
Speaker 1: if it's a tied end, sure, if it's a if

691
00:32:41,840 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 1: it's a corner, you know, whatever it is. That's why

692
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 1: I don't see it being a receiver because I just

693
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 1: don't think the receiver would come right in at twenty

694
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:50,680
Speaker 1: six and be a difference maker. But I do think

695
00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 1: a defensive tackle way it would be wild too, because

696
00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,600
Speaker 1: that Jayalen Carter from Georgia. A lot of people talk

697
00:32:55,600 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 1: about off the field and things like that, if he

698
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 1: was a fall and we had a Cowboys, like, how

699
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 1: do you how do you pass on that talent? And

700
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 1: because I really do believe that if you really want

701
00:33:04,720 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 1: a real game record detacle, you probably got to get

702
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,160
Speaker 1: him in the top ten. Not many of them really

703
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 1: fall that fire. And we know Jerry loves a rehabilitation project, right,

704
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,120
Speaker 1: you know, especially at a good value as they're talking

705
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 1: about on TV right now. Did value Will for which

706
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 1: I'd never say his name, right, Will Fork? It sounds right?

707
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 1: Did he fall? I mean, I know, I know it

708
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 1: was like twenty one, twenty four something like that. Did

709
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 1: he fall to there? Or is he just like that's

710
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 1: kind of what he was. He was a nose tackle.

711
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 1: He was big, you know, and it was you don't

712
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 1: really draft nose tackles. You don't have any pass rush presence.

713
00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 1: But he was just a special player. But you know,

714
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 1: and getting back to defense, I think that for this

715
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,400
Speaker 1: to truly be a defense, a great defense, you need

716
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:44,320
Speaker 1: a house in the middle. I've said that him again.

717
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:47,360
Speaker 1: I'm old school. You cannot be a special defense without

718
00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 1: somebody special in the middle of that defense pass rushing somebody,

719
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 1: that's gonna be a house in the middle, and the

720
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 1: Cowboys don't have that. I don't know if you get

721
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,760
Speaker 1: that at twenty six, but they do need to upgrade

722
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 1: that defense tackle position. So um, Drew Rosenhouse says he's

723
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 1: not gonna let let his guy Carter go. Is anybody

724
00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 1: who's not the top ten any issues with it? No,

725
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean that's just I don't know what. Yeah,

726
00:34:18,040 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 1: that's asia play because it's like, okay, well team wants

727
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:22,439
Speaker 1: to trade up for him. Yeah, yeah, you're not gonna

728
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,480
Speaker 1: let him go. Meet with him? Right, We're sitting there

729
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,480
Speaker 1: at fourteen or something like that, and you're like, well,

730
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,239
Speaker 1: people sitting there and sitting there at twenty if you

731
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:31,399
Speaker 1: really want to game, like like Clarence said, this isn't

732
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 1: a Cowboys thing, Like it's an NFL thing. You need

733
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:36,239
Speaker 1: good defensive tackle play. There could be a team at

734
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 1: twenty two that's like, this is the missing piece from

735
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 1: our defense. We're going to trade up for him. I

736
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,920
Speaker 1: don't need to meet with your well, I mean, I

737
00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,439
Speaker 1: mean you kind of would like to if you're gonna

738
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:47,319
Speaker 1: trade up to you know, you know you would kind

739
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 1: of like to spend some time. I think, yeah, you're right.

740
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:53,480
Speaker 1: I think that they've met with enough people. You know,

741
00:34:53,480 --> 00:34:56,839
Speaker 1: they'll they'll they they kind of everybody. Everybody knows what's

742
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,360
Speaker 1: going on. You know, Yeah, people know what's going on.

743
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 1: And I I think that you know, you know, I mean,

744
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:03,319
Speaker 1: just like we talked old cowvers weren't gonna draft guys

745
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 1: they visited within the all of a sudden, there's some

746
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:06,920
Speaker 1: people that they draft. You know who was on the board.

747
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take him because I know who's special talent.

748
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 1: What's it if he met Clayborn? Yeah was it mot Clayborn?

749
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 1: Which okay, I mean it didn't work out, but like

750
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 1: they traded for him, I don't think they've never talked

751
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 1: to him. Yeah, I mean because they saw a special

752
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 1: talent there. And I think the same thing would be

753
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 1: the case with McCarter. I mean, using there was a

754
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 1: ton of going in and really digging in with Michael Parsons. No, remember,

755
00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 1: they could remember that story on the on the draft

756
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:34,879
Speaker 1: day that like it was a big deal, like after

757
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:36,279
Speaker 1: they drafted that, Like I want to say, it was

758
00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 1: like Mike McCarthy never even was on like a call

759
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 1: or anything with him or something like that. I know

760
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:41,960
Speaker 1: that you got blown into this big like like it

761
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:45,600
Speaker 1: was beyond just Dallas story about Yeah, they had no ideas,

762
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 1: They had no idea, Miaelig. My biggest thing is when

763
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 1: people talk about the Cowboys draft, is at least you know,

764
00:35:51,800 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 1: before the last three years, since Mike McCarthy has gotten here,

765
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 1: you had a little bit of an idea these last

766
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 1: three years. In the first round, as we said here today,

767
00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:00,799
Speaker 1: you had no idea that we're gonna draft the guys

768
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:04,839
Speaker 1: they did. You didn't cd Michael Parsons, Tyler Smith. Five

769
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:06,799
Speaker 1: days before the draft, most people didn't were like, there's

770
00:36:06,840 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 1: no chance that Tyler Smith whatever. I mean. Heck, an

771
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 1: hour before the draft, most people said not Tyler said

772
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:14,399
Speaker 1: they took the draft. I remember, I remember someone telling

773
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:17,080
Speaker 1: me about Tyler Smith and I and I did that

774
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 1: that was my mock pick. But that's only because the

775
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 1: day of it, I was just like, who yeah, yeah,

776
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:28,000
Speaker 1: it totally worked out here. And I just had this

777
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 1: feeling that all of them, I'm gonna I'm gonna real

778
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:34,320
Speaker 1: quick before you said it worked out because of what

779
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 1: we were just we're talking about about free agency. It

780
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 1: allows you to do that. It allows you like they

781
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 1: covered themselves with the defensive it just enough that you're

782
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,520
Speaker 1: twenty twenty was a chase on that they kind of

783
00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 1: wanted to take. But cd L like you gotta take right.

784
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,680
Speaker 1: But I'm saying, I'm saying they've covered themselves to the

785
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 1: point where when that guy falls to them that they

786
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 1: can do it. So you we don't know. It could

787
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 1: be a position we're not even talking about it. Let

788
00:37:01,360 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 1: me let me corner. Let me just throw this up

789
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 1: so Rosenhouse to see agent, he's not enough business with

790
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,439
Speaker 1: the Cowboys to the years. We think if they didn't

791
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:12,319
Speaker 1: pick up the phone and say, hey, at least put

792
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 1: him on a zoom with us. At least we got

793
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 1: some questions here that he'd take that phone about. And

794
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,760
Speaker 1: I mean, to put a player, especially a D lineman

795
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 1: on the Cowboys with all the games that they're gonna

796
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 1: be on TV, Rosenhouse would do that. That's just me

797
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:29,000
Speaker 1: at the end of the day. What smart agent wouldn't

798
00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:31,320
Speaker 1: want to push the player to the Cowboys where you

799
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:33,359
Speaker 1: know they're gonna be on TV. And oh, by the way,

800
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,319
Speaker 1: if they're really good, Jerry's right, but he's not pushed

801
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 1: them now to twenty six. Well this he's not pushing

802
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 1: so the Cowboys or twenty six. No, And in my

803
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:47,600
Speaker 1: mind it is the Cowboys calling him, Hey, we may,

804
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 1: we might. We've done it before. We'd like to have

805
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 1: a conversation if if something can get into play. Yeah.

806
00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 1: I don't see him trading up. I don't see it.

807
00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 1: I don't see that happening either. Yeah, I never know, man,

808
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 1: never it's just any one. Wow. I mean, what the

809
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:12,319
Speaker 1: doing because you start as you get off, like talking

810
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:13,759
Speaker 1: to rangers on why you spend all that money? So

811
00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 1: I haint man ain't getting no younger. Yeah, but we're

812
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 1: gonna get to Jereed. This that's been Jerry's matching for

813
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 1: the last five years. You make this could be to

814
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:21,840
Speaker 1: I don't have time to have a bad time. I

815
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 1: mean this, ain't you mean that? You know, that's that's

816
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 1: been his mantra. He's been desperate, you know, got rid

817
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:32,839
Speaker 1: of Jason. You know it's whole. Yeah, but I mean

818
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 1: the reason, the reason why he's not going number one

819
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:39,279
Speaker 1: or two or three or whatever. That would be really

820
00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 1: risky to lose two first round picks for you know,

821
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 1: or however much more you have to do to get

822
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:47,880
Speaker 1: up there, questions about his character or work ethic or

823
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 1: whatever it falls to you, and you're like, all right,

824
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 1: let's do. It's like it's like Des Bryant and I don't.

825
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,120
Speaker 1: I'm just saying Des was falling for different reasons too,

826
00:38:56,200 --> 00:38:57,960
Speaker 1: and it's like, okay, yeah, I don't. I don't think

827
00:38:57,960 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 1: they would be moving up like it with Daz. It's

828
00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:01,879
Speaker 1: not you're not moving up from they moved a couple. Yeah,

829
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 1: I could see them doing that for a player. I

830
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 1: do not see them going from not too high. Yeah,

831
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:08,799
Speaker 1: going into the town. You know a teen nineteen right,

832
00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:13,320
Speaker 1: but it Carter starts to fall and it's reports legitimate.

833
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 1: But if their teams saying, hey man, he's not on

834
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 1: our board, the next thing, you know, a guy starts

835
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 1: tumbling down here. I'm not saying it's gonna be a

836
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 1: Randy Most type tumble, but if this guy's next thing,

837
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:26,280
Speaker 1: you know, could be sitting here at thirteen or fourteen,

838
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 1: I think you'd have to make it to the back

839
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 1: end of the time. He's not gonna pass. Philly Phia

840
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,920
Speaker 1: be like, yeah, we never never take they take. They're

841
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 1: taking him. They take a bijou. I feel it's taking

842
00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 1: everybody's gonna take them off. They're gonna get it. They're

843
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 1: gonna get Aaron Rodgers all. It'll surprise everybody everything. Um,

844
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 1: they are in the catbird seat though. Team they have

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Speaker 1: and the picks they have. I mean, it's it's it's

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Speaker 1: just the best of the situation. How comfortable are we

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Speaker 1: with the running back coach? Now? Blast goo? Anybody asked

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Speaker 1: McCarthy about then, m h anybody cares about the new

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Speaker 1: running back coach. He's never been a running back coach

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Speaker 1: in the league. Doesn't matter. I think it matters in

851
00:40:06,920 --> 00:40:09,920
Speaker 1: the running back room. I don't know that the you know, obviously,

852
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Speaker 1: running back is a position that you wake out of

853
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 1: bed you can play. I think everybody understands. That's why

854
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 1: rookies can play. Yeah, yeah, you know you have it.

855
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Speaker 1: I don't know if the but I think there's some

856
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 1: chemistry things that you need to have in a room.

857
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:26,000
Speaker 1: I think the great thing the Skip did last year

858
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 1: was to to get the Zeek and pollered and be

859
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:31,440
Speaker 1: able to get them to share a load and and

860
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 1: split that handled those manage those egos and they running

861
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,720
Speaker 1: back room. The good news if there's not any egos

862
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 1: in this running back room. You know, Tony doesn't have

863
00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:43,600
Speaker 1: an ego, you know, based on his past, and you

864
00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:45,800
Speaker 1: whoever you bring in to go with him won't have

865
00:40:45,880 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 1: an ego. It's not like the seekers there or some

866
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 1: big time back because they have to manage. So I

867
00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 1: think that helps you have a guy like for blastco

868
00:40:55,239 --> 00:40:57,960
Speaker 1: be the running best coaches because there's not anybody that

869
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 1: you know, you have to have reference to. And you too.

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00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 1: You know, for the past two running back coaches we've

871
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 1: seen here, between Skip Pete and the late Gary Brown,

872
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 1: it was really two good guys who connected the room.

873
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 1: And now you're bringing in someone who's not done it.

874
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 1: They played in the league, yeah, and skipped before Gary,

875
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 1: So those those yeah, those guys for a long time.

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00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think even before Skip. I mean maybe

877
00:41:23,800 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 1: Clarence Shellman way back in the day, right, But but

878
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 1: I feel like most of the times it's been somebody

879
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 1: that's played in the league. So but you know, you

880
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:32,839
Speaker 1: can make that case with a lot of positions too.

881
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:36,640
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if Joe Philibin actually blocked

882
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 1: a lot of people in the offensive line, you know,

883
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 1: in his life, but he was a pretty good coach.

884
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 1: There too, So Jerry played and then the offensive line

885
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:46,279
Speaker 1: didn't play. He didn't play guard. Yeah, So that's what

886
00:41:46,320 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 1: I mean. I don't think it's a national it's it's

887
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 1: issue of playing positions, the issue of coaching the position,

888
00:41:52,320 --> 00:41:54,759
Speaker 1: experience with the position. Yeah, and they liked this guy.

889
00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:56,800
Speaker 1: I mean they liked him. They think he's he was

890
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 1: he was an assistant offensive line coach. Talking about Blasco. Right,

891
00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 1: mcarthy's boy. I mean he brought him in Green Bay.

892
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:03,640
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, they like him. But if McCarthy likes him,

893
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:05,520
Speaker 1: I mean, that's this boy. I mean, this is that's

894
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,680
Speaker 1: a Yeah, that's a that's a family thing. It always

895
00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:11,080
Speaker 1: has and he take care of his family. That's always

896
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:15,840
Speaker 1: I mean, like McCurley, linebacker John Garrett. When literally family

897
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 1: it happens, it's a family thing and and that that's

898
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 1: part of the NFL. And and we'll see how this

899
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 1: but I guess I think and I guess my point

900
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 1: is it will work with this room because there's no

901
00:42:26,200 --> 00:42:29,760
Speaker 1: big ego, no big name. I mean, let's we love Tony,

902
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,840
Speaker 1: but I mean Tony is not an ego in this room. Okay,

903
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 1: I just found that to something we hadn't really chat.

904
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 1: I don't think it would work the same way of

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Speaker 1: Zeke was still here, and I think that I do

906
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:42,319
Speaker 1: wonder what was that a part of it as well?

907
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,320
Speaker 1: I do because we have seen that happen before. It

908
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:49,000
Speaker 1: comes back. Yeah, what about that, Clarence, We're not doing

909
00:42:49,080 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 1: this hour. I just pulled up. I just pulled up today.

910
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 1: And did they give outside they give? Did they give

911
00:42:55,480 --> 00:42:58,879
Speaker 1: a number away? He did? Did they give his number away?

912
00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 1: He wants? He wants fifteen? He does want fifteen? Yes,

913
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 1: and this could you least time Jackie is still free agent.

914
00:43:05,200 --> 00:43:06,640
Speaker 1: I don't know what you're saying for over there. But

915
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 1: then again, Will Greer has fifteen and he had he

916
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 1: got to bollow jersey those twenty one jerseys up because

917
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:15,600
Speaker 1: did you have to do that if you're cut for no, Yeah,

918
00:43:15,600 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 1: I don't think you'd have to know that. Yeah, I'm

919
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 1: pretty sure he looked into it and it was zero

920
00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:26,959
Speaker 1: and it was millions. I mean it was a bunch

921
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 1: of millions. He was like, no, elevens good. Curse was

922
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Speaker 1: like jay R take curse. I have to buy any

923
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:35,920
Speaker 1: I've never seen the curse j Yeah. But but getting

924
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 1: back to the Zeke thing. I know we were joking,

925
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:40,400
Speaker 1: but there is a portion of the fan base that

926
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 1: that think that there's a chance of Zeke's come back.

927
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,919
Speaker 1: And I think Jerry then were being nice by saying

928
00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:49,120
Speaker 1: the doors got shut. But there the doors shut. I mean,

929
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:51,759
Speaker 1: they really expected to sign with somewhere else. But the

930
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 1: plan is not for him to come back. Yeah, I

931
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 1: mean he don't see it. Yeah I don't either. I

932
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:58,799
Speaker 1: was being sarc I know, I said you were being

933
00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 1: up there, But there are port and fan base I

934
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:03,919
Speaker 1: mean that whole day. I mean, like, are these people

935
00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 1: they're not listening? Well, yeah, there's a lot of people

936
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Speaker 1: that think that they have a new answer defensive tackle too.

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Speaker 1: So goodness Grace, there's a lot that happens, gentlemen. I

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Speaker 1: appreciate your insights today. John machowd of The Athletic, Nick Eatman,

939
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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys dot Com, Clarence Hill. Before we start telegramming,

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00:44:19,640 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 1: do we scrube, we will do it again? You know,

941
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:23,279
Speaker 1: should we do it next Monday? Are too available? Let's

942
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:25,320
Speaker 1: do it on the area. They're just gonna say it.

943
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Speaker 1: Commit to them right now on that. That's right, man, Yeah,

944
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:33,719
Speaker 1: you're in man, you yes, so sure Okay, all right, Nick,

945
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 1: See there we go. See that easy Easter Monday, don't we?

946
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:40,000
Speaker 1: Don't we in the holiday Easter Monday the Eastern You

947
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:44,200
Speaker 1: worked in this business about Easter Monday, about Thanksgiving Thursdays,

948
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:51,160
Speaker 1: that thing. Goodbye. This has been a production of Dallas

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Speaker 1: Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.