WEBVTT - Player’s Lounge: Better Call Tyrone 0:00:02.880 --> 0:00:05.320 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.320 --> 0:00:14.520 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is the Players Lounge, 0:00:14.720 --> 0:00:19.200 broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys World headquarters at the Star. 0:00:19.920 --> 0:00:25.799 Now your hosts Barry Church, Danny McCrae, Hecma Harrison, and 0:00:26.200 --> 0:00:28.200 Newie Scrugs. 0:00:29.880 --> 0:00:33.720 Live from the taj Mahal of Football in the SWBC 0:00:34.080 --> 0:00:35.280 podcast studios. 0:00:35.360 --> 0:00:37.479 It is the Players. 0:00:37.000 --> 0:00:40.800 Lounge, supposed to by Aristocrat Gaming. Hey, you are now 0:00:40.880 --> 0:00:42.840 rocking with the best you know who's at the desk 0:00:42.960 --> 0:00:46.600 HECKM Harrison, my man, Barry Church, former free safety for 0:00:46.640 --> 0:00:49.080 the Dallas Cowboys, And we have the. 0:00:48.960 --> 0:00:52.800 Pride of Windsor Yes, indeed, Tyrope. 0:00:53.880 --> 0:00:58.320 Yes it's here, Yeah, yes, sir, yes, sir man. Look, 0:00:58.480 --> 0:01:00.680 first of all, it is you never know a man 0:01:00.720 --> 0:01:02.600 until you do a show with a man. And I'm 0:01:02.640 --> 0:01:05.400 telling you I've been dying to meet you. I don't 0:01:05.440 --> 0:01:07.080 have nothing but respect for your game. 0:01:07.560 --> 0:01:09.880 Dog. But we go, we go dig in too some 0:01:09.959 --> 0:01:10.479 things to day. 0:01:11.360 --> 0:01:14.400 No stone will be left unturned, and we got we 0:01:14.480 --> 0:01:16.600 got some defensive lines, specially especially. 0:01:16.640 --> 0:01:19.840 That's what you want to hear about that We've been throwing. 0:01:19.640 --> 0:01:23.080 Our opinions out there but I know specially I already 0:01:23.120 --> 0:01:27.440 knew it was coming. Danni mc cray is on the 0:01:27.520 --> 0:01:29.919 sign of today new we shrugs. Let me drive the bus, 0:01:29.920 --> 0:01:32.080 and so that's what I'm gonna do. But man, when 0:01:32.120 --> 0:01:34.080 I get an opportunity to do a show, first thing 0:01:34.160 --> 0:01:35.920 I do is I check in with my brothers. Man, 0:01:35.959 --> 0:01:38.520 I want to know how your mind is before we 0:01:38.560 --> 0:01:39.440 start talking ball. 0:01:39.760 --> 0:01:41.959 How are you, Tyrone? Man? 0:01:42.160 --> 0:01:44.000 My mind is great. You know, I got a beautiful 0:01:44.000 --> 0:01:47.200 family around me. I'm super grateful. You know, God is good. 0:01:47.240 --> 0:01:50.680 He's put four girls, you know in my life, actually five, 0:01:51.480 --> 0:01:54.680 you know, my wife, my four daughters. Obviously I got 0:01:54.720 --> 0:01:58.160 my mom and but yeah, I mean we just been 0:01:58.200 --> 0:01:59.920 We've just been vibing out. We've had a good summer, 0:02:00.480 --> 0:02:02.080 you know, got the kids to experience a lot of 0:02:02.080 --> 0:02:04.880 different things. I got to go down to Idaho, visit 0:02:04.920 --> 0:02:06.720 the vander Rushes and uh. 0:02:06.720 --> 0:02:08.200 You know, do a little bit of lake time. There. 0:02:08.320 --> 0:02:10.959 Got to go out to camp go and watch the 0:02:11.000 --> 0:02:12.600 boys practice a little bit, and then go down to 0:02:12.600 --> 0:02:14.799 Santa Barbara, visit the Uncle Sean Lee. 0:02:15.800 --> 0:02:16.160 There we go. 0:02:16.360 --> 0:02:18.880 Yeah, in general, and uh yeah, man, in life, you know, 0:02:18.919 --> 0:02:21.360 I've just been chilling. Uh, me and my brother, you know, 0:02:21.480 --> 0:02:23.480 put together, you know, a couple of businesses, one of 0:02:23.520 --> 0:02:27.239 them being outdoor construction that we love. You know, it's 0:02:27.280 --> 0:02:30.839 called Crawford Signature Spaces and uh uh you know, other 0:02:30.880 --> 0:02:32.959 than that, I personally, I do a little bit of 0:02:33.080 --> 0:02:37.560 d line stuff, athletes stuff online and through YouTube, and 0:02:37.840 --> 0:02:39.600 that's about to be released here soon too. And you 0:02:39.639 --> 0:02:42.520 know it's it's my same brand, the work brand. 0:02:42.680 --> 0:02:42.760 Uh. 0:02:43.080 --> 0:02:45.640 Just work extra hard, get a little bit of extra working, dude. 0:02:45.639 --> 0:02:47.760 That's awesome. Man, I'm glad to hear that, man, Glad 0:02:47.800 --> 0:02:49.880 to hear you doing good. Four girls. I have three, 0:02:50.320 --> 0:02:52.840 so I'm gonna pray for you. You pray for me. 0:02:55.120 --> 0:02:59.679 A lot of girls. Exactly how you do it? Brother? Man? 0:02:59.720 --> 0:03:02.240 Like all he's doing amazing. Man, you know, caught my 0:03:02.280 --> 0:03:05.080 blessings every time it's hot. It's real hot down here Dallas, 0:03:05.120 --> 0:03:07.720 but I'm kind of used to it nowadays. Family doing great. 0:03:08.320 --> 0:03:10.040 Little one, you know, he's battling a little bit of 0:03:10.080 --> 0:03:11.760 a headache, so he had to stay home from school 0:03:11.760 --> 0:03:13.600 a little bit, so I've got daddy daycare for a 0:03:13.639 --> 0:03:16.560 little bit before I came out here. But other than that, man, 0:03:16.639 --> 0:03:19.520 things are doing amazing. Wife's business is crushing it as usual. 0:03:19.639 --> 0:03:22.760 So yeah, life's pretty good. Man, can't complain, Man, I 0:03:22.800 --> 0:03:24.480 love to hear it. Man, glad to be in the 0:03:24.560 --> 0:03:24.920 room with you. 0:03:24.960 --> 0:03:26.679 Brothers. Man, how you doing? 0:03:26.960 --> 0:03:28.919 We didn't even through we got throw How you doing? 0:03:28.960 --> 0:03:32.280 They dog every time the light turned green? And to 0:03:32.360 --> 0:03:34.880 open that door down there, I date somebody punking men 0:03:35.280 --> 0:03:39.480 that's talking about all the football. Man, all good in 0:03:39.560 --> 0:03:42.520 my world, man, trust me, it's all good. 0:03:42.640 --> 0:03:42.839 BC. 0:03:43.000 --> 0:03:47.160 Man, everything is everything is wonderful. Man, I'm straight, but guys, 0:03:47.200 --> 0:03:49.160 I know y'all got an opportunity to watch the game 0:03:50.360 --> 0:03:55.120 on Saturday, Cowboys take on the Las Vegas Raiders and 0:03:55.280 --> 0:03:58.800 pulled out a victory, uh for the first preseason victory. 0:03:59.160 --> 0:04:01.040 And man, there's a lot of things to take apart 0:04:01.480 --> 0:04:03.120 in that game. And what I want to do is 0:04:03.160 --> 0:04:05.680 just kind of segmented and make sure that we get 0:04:05.680 --> 0:04:07.880 into the players that we knew coming into that game 0:04:08.240 --> 0:04:12.520 needed to have a pretty good showing. And so expectation wise, 0:04:12.560 --> 0:04:14.480 what you thought, or you know, who were some guys 0:04:14.480 --> 0:04:16.640 that you went in saying, look, this guy has to 0:04:16.640 --> 0:04:17.080 have a game. 0:04:17.240 --> 0:04:18.080 He fulfilled that. 0:04:18.880 --> 0:04:20.320 Who are some guys that you were looking at in 0:04:20.320 --> 0:04:23.440 Tyrone I saw with you. 0:04:23.560 --> 0:04:27.479 Well, I mean, you know, personally, when when I'm watching 0:04:27.520 --> 0:04:30.839 the game, I can't take my eyes off the D line, yep. 0:04:31.080 --> 0:04:35.120 So you know, for me, it's hard for me to 0:04:35.240 --> 0:04:37.880 you know, give you offensive perspectives and my opinion on 0:04:38.279 --> 0:04:39.760 a lot of different offensive guys. 0:04:39.880 --> 0:04:42.760 Although I did watch, uh. 0:04:42.480 --> 0:04:44.840 You know, I had my eye on Max Crosby a 0:04:44.839 --> 0:04:46.680 little bit and I got to watch Tyler go up 0:04:46.720 --> 0:04:49.160 against Max, So I mean, I feel like you did 0:04:49.480 --> 0:04:52.440 a great job, and you know, I was, uh, you know, 0:04:52.480 --> 0:04:54.640 I was. I thought I thought his performance as well, 0:04:55.080 --> 0:04:57.560 but you know, going on to the defense, you know, 0:04:57.720 --> 0:05:00.800 and again I don't want to. Yeah, I'm not the 0:05:00.839 --> 0:05:03.159 guy like this is why I don't think I could 0:05:03.400 --> 0:05:05.919 do TV or anything like that, because I'm not the data, 0:05:06.160 --> 0:05:09.320 you know, try and crush a man for you know, 0:05:09.360 --> 0:05:12.279 how he played football. But you know, I feel like 0:05:12.320 --> 0:05:15.800 the D line, you know, did a good job. But 0:05:15.920 --> 0:05:19.160 you know, I feel like, obviously there's room for improvement, 0:05:19.160 --> 0:05:21.440 and one of the biggest things in improvement as a 0:05:21.480 --> 0:05:23.600 D linman is just doing your job. If everybody does 0:05:23.640 --> 0:05:26.240 their jobs, as Church knows when we were playing, you know, 0:05:26.279 --> 0:05:28.440 if everybody does their job, everybody has an assignment. If 0:05:28.480 --> 0:05:30.080 you do that job, you leave the game with an 0:05:30.080 --> 0:05:33.359 a like we most of the time, you know, you 0:05:33.440 --> 0:05:36.320 control your assignment, then things will go well. And you know, 0:05:36.400 --> 0:05:39.800 if if something goes wrong then but you controlled your assignment, 0:05:39.800 --> 0:05:42.400 everyone was right on their assignment, then you know, then 0:05:42.440 --> 0:05:44.880 you can put another de coordinator, which it should be anyways, right, 0:05:45.400 --> 0:05:47.960 So yeah, I mean, I mean again, I think the 0:05:48.040 --> 0:05:52.680 D line did good, secondary linebackers did good. But again, 0:05:52.920 --> 0:05:54.960 you know it's it's bad coming from me because I'm 0:05:55.000 --> 0:05:57.279 not the guy that wants to stow any negativity any 0:05:57.320 --> 0:05:59.240 any any players, but especially when they're trying to make 0:05:59.240 --> 0:06:01.400 a team. And you know, this is huge, man, this 0:06:01.440 --> 0:06:03.640 is huge for people's families, lives. You know, changed my 0:06:03.720 --> 0:06:06.560 life completely, So I don't want to I don't want 0:06:06.560 --> 0:06:07.640 to crush anybody to earthly. 0:06:08.440 --> 0:06:11.640 Maybe later out of the season I'll talk about Tyrone. 0:06:11.760 --> 0:06:13.640 Listen, you're on the players lounge. 0:06:13.720 --> 0:06:14.240 I hear that. 0:06:14.320 --> 0:06:17.240 And one thing we do on the lounge we keep 0:06:17.279 --> 0:06:20.000 it real. So well we do. 0:06:20.080 --> 0:06:22.039 We're not gonna hate, We're not gonna bake them completely, 0:06:22.480 --> 0:06:24.640 but it will be a waft of smell. 0:06:24.760 --> 0:06:26.480 Well listen, well, listen, I'll do this. 0:06:27.760 --> 0:06:30.280 If I have to agree with something, I'll agree with it. 0:06:30.680 --> 0:06:32.599 You know, I won't be the I won't be the 0:06:32.600 --> 0:06:34.159 flame throw Let me ask you. 0:06:34.440 --> 0:06:35.760 All right, let me let me let me ask you 0:06:35.760 --> 0:06:38.120 this specifically before I go to you. A guy like 0:06:38.360 --> 0:06:41.640 Chauncey Golston who mimics some of the things that you did. 0:06:41.720 --> 0:06:43.520 You were a guy that went from D tackle the 0:06:43.640 --> 0:06:45.960 d N and so he's a twinner and that's he's 0:06:45.960 --> 0:06:48.239 gonna be a guy that we depend on for sure 0:06:48.560 --> 0:06:51.279 this season. What did you think about him in that preseason? 0:06:51.400 --> 0:06:54.400 Okay, so I'm not I've always been. I've been I'm 0:06:54.440 --> 0:07:00.520 a Ghoston fan. So I mean, you know, obviously playing 0:07:00.600 --> 0:07:02.320 D line if you know, a lot of people want 0:07:02.360 --> 0:07:04.520 to see the flash and you know, the glam, the 0:07:04.560 --> 0:07:06.960 glam plays and all that stuff. I'm okay with seeing 0:07:07.279 --> 0:07:09.480 somebody do their job. Like I said, if somebody does 0:07:09.480 --> 0:07:11.320 their job, they do it well, and they make it 0:07:11.360 --> 0:07:13.240 easier for the linebacker, and they make it easier for 0:07:13.280 --> 0:07:17.160 the safeties. You know, I think I think that's that's important, 0:07:18.040 --> 0:07:20.840 you know. So you know that's where I'm gonna leave that. 0:07:21.800 --> 0:07:23.480 But you know, I've always been a fan of I've 0:07:23.480 --> 0:07:27.080 always been a fan of him, and please don't don't 0:07:27.080 --> 0:07:29.800 take this the wrong way, but please mention the number, uh, 0:07:30.120 --> 0:07:33.320 the number of the player, because I'd be forgetting these dudes. 0:07:35.480 --> 0:07:38.480 Right, don't even worry about. 0:07:39.120 --> 0:07:43.120 Right, Yeah, I forget these dudes days. So like, if 0:07:43.120 --> 0:07:44.600 you give me the number, like I, I do like 0:07:44.640 --> 0:07:46.720 the way ninety eight played. You know, I don't know 0:07:46.760 --> 0:07:48.880 his name, but I like the way or ninety three, 0:07:49.840 --> 0:07:51.160 but yeah, I mean I like, I like the way 0:07:51.200 --> 0:07:53.720 some of these guys played. You know, when I when 0:07:53.720 --> 0:07:55.200 I when I, when you tell me the number, I'll 0:07:55.240 --> 0:07:57.080 be like, oh, yeah, okay, I remember, I remember some. 0:07:57.000 --> 0:07:57.720 Of the places play. 0:07:58.080 --> 0:08:00.880 But yeah, so just throwing off, just keeping it real. 0:08:03.840 --> 0:08:06.360 But that's why I loved going to war with a 0:08:06.360 --> 0:08:08.400 guy like Crawford. That's why I loved him being in 0:08:08.440 --> 0:08:11.560 those trenches because he wasn't about you know, hero ball 0:08:11.600 --> 0:08:13.280 and trying to make every single play out there. It 0:08:13.360 --> 0:08:16.080 was do your job and your gap, your responsibility. If 0:08:16.080 --> 0:08:17.520 the play comes your way, you're gonna make it. And 0:08:17.560 --> 0:08:19.320 he made, you know, my job at safety a hell 0:08:19.360 --> 0:08:21.600 of a lot easier. So that's what when I look 0:08:21.600 --> 0:08:23.360 at this defensive line, when I looked at them. You know, 0:08:23.520 --> 0:08:26.280 this past game they played, to me, in my opinion, 0:08:26.320 --> 0:08:28.240 a lot better than they played in that first game. 0:08:28.240 --> 0:08:29.720 We did see a little bit of leaks here and 0:08:29.720 --> 0:08:31.360 there from the rank game, but you know that that's 0:08:31.400 --> 0:08:33.480 gonna happen. That's gonna happen. We see that's gonna happen. 0:08:33.520 --> 0:08:38.080 But from what I saw out there, those guys, at 0:08:38.160 --> 0:08:40.320 least at the point of attack, I thought that they 0:08:40.320 --> 0:08:41.920 played a lot better. They were able to put some 0:08:42.000 --> 0:08:44.000 push back there, and they were going against ones. It 0:08:44.000 --> 0:08:47.240 ain't like, you know, it was our starting defense versus there. 0:08:47.440 --> 0:08:49.880 It was you know, the backups for the Dallas Cowboys 0:08:49.960 --> 0:08:51.080 didn't have d Law out there. 0:08:51.120 --> 0:08:52.080 He didn't have Parsons. 0:08:52.080 --> 0:08:53.920 You didn't have you know, old said Diggy jut out 0:08:53.920 --> 0:08:57.120 there against you know, the ones for the Los Angeles. 0:08:57.400 --> 0:08:58.719 They had been to you out there, they had that 0:08:58.800 --> 0:09:00.800 you're white running the ball out there, and those guys 0:09:00.840 --> 0:09:02.360 were able to hold their own. I believe they held 0:09:02.440 --> 0:09:04.320 them the what was it, six six sixth points out there. 0:09:04.320 --> 0:09:05.240 They were able to hold. 0:09:05.120 --> 0:09:07.240 Those guys out of the end zone, which was huge. 0:09:07.600 --> 0:09:10.160 But the thing I looked at most from that that 0:09:10.240 --> 0:09:12.920 defensive perspective, at least what I saw early on was 0:09:13.280 --> 0:09:17.800 those linebackers once again were able to fly sideline the sideline, 0:09:17.880 --> 0:09:21.040 and that's what we've been missing from this. I don't 0:09:21.080 --> 0:09:23.000 want to defensive line dep whatever the case may be, 0:09:23.600 --> 0:09:25.559 those offsive linemen from the other teams getting up to 0:09:25.600 --> 0:09:28.160 the second level, getting these guys off of their mark 0:09:28.160 --> 0:09:30.240 and not being able to get downhill. The d line, 0:09:30.280 --> 0:09:32.000 in my opinion, did a good job of holding those 0:09:32.040 --> 0:09:34.599 guys up at the point of attack during their responsibility. 0:09:34.840 --> 0:09:35.800 And you saw all guys. 0:09:35.840 --> 0:09:38.240 I don't want to butcher lad his name, I want 0:09:38.240 --> 0:09:41.720 to say, Maurice la the rookie from the rookie from 0:09:41.720 --> 0:09:44.760 Notre Dame line back at number thirty five, that dude 0:09:44.840 --> 0:09:47.040 is he looks like a missile out there, young rookie 0:09:47.040 --> 0:09:49.160 from Notre Dame. He's coming downhill. You saw him all 0:09:49.160 --> 0:09:51.400 over the place. You know, he popped off the tape 0:09:51.400 --> 0:09:53.440 all over the place. Of course, you love to see 0:09:53.440 --> 0:09:55.760 what you saw from Marquis Bell coming downhill as well. 0:09:55.800 --> 0:09:56.880 But to me, those. 0:09:56.679 --> 0:09:59.360 Linebackers, this is the second week in the rower they 0:09:59.360 --> 0:10:01.800 look they look pretty good. We talk about coming downhill, 0:10:01.800 --> 0:10:03.960 defending the run, and it's like I said before, this 0:10:04.040 --> 0:10:06.839 was against the Ones. Yeah, So to me, I feel 0:10:06.840 --> 0:10:09.800 like overall offensive defensive league will tap into the offense 0:10:09.800 --> 0:10:12.840 a little bit later, but overall, I feel like from 0:10:12.880 --> 0:10:15.439 what I've seen in this performance, at least, it was 0:10:15.480 --> 0:10:17.560 a tad bit of bit of hope I'm coming in. 0:10:17.920 --> 0:10:18.320 You know what I mean. 0:10:18.520 --> 0:10:22.040 I told you hope you're narcotic. But there's a tad 0:10:22.120 --> 0:10:24.360 bit of that coming in. And you know, I like 0:10:24.400 --> 0:10:26.280 what I've seen so far. I like what I've seen 0:10:26.280 --> 0:10:26.559 so far. 0:10:26.760 --> 0:10:29.280 So Tyren, we have we talked about a lot of 0:10:29.320 --> 0:10:32.120 these defensive linemen. In one of the comps that I've 0:10:32.160 --> 0:10:35.400 gotten from Barry Church about our rookie marsha On Neeland 0:10:35.640 --> 0:10:38.600 was Tyrone Crawford. And when he said that, I was like, 0:10:38.640 --> 0:10:40.760 wait a minute, I praise we starting to come on, man, 0:10:40.760 --> 0:10:44.200 he's jumping out the gate and so a guy like that, 0:10:44.280 --> 0:10:46.559 I mean, especially with this defensive line, with the woes 0:10:46.559 --> 0:10:48.480 that they had last season, what are some of the 0:10:48.520 --> 0:10:50.400 things for you, Like you're looking at and saying that 0:10:50.440 --> 0:10:53.600 this year's team has to be better at this and 0:10:53.640 --> 0:10:56.160 if they do have success, it's going to be because 0:10:56.200 --> 0:10:57.320 of X. 0:10:58.400 --> 0:10:58.600 Yeah. 0:10:58.640 --> 0:11:01.599 I mean, you know, again, like last year at the 0:11:01.679 --> 0:11:04.440 end of the year. You know, anybody you talk to, 0:11:04.559 --> 0:11:07.240 they blame the game on the offense and you know 0:11:07.280 --> 0:11:09.680 one guy in particular, which you cannot do. This game 0:11:09.760 --> 0:11:13.040 is not about that. It's there's eleven people on the 0:11:13.080 --> 0:11:15.960 field you know for a reason. And you know, I 0:11:16.000 --> 0:11:18.800 mean on on the defensive side of things. Again, it 0:11:18.840 --> 0:11:21.600 comes back to, you know, the assignments man if and 0:11:21.600 --> 0:11:24.520 and what Berry's saying, like, the linebackers have to be 0:11:24.559 --> 0:11:26.800 able to move. The linebackers have to those are the 0:11:26.800 --> 0:11:28.439 play those are the playmakers. And you kind of have 0:11:28.480 --> 0:11:31.160 to humble yourself as a d lineman at times to 0:11:31.520 --> 0:11:34.320 let them to let that be the way the game 0:11:34.400 --> 0:11:36.600 is played. If you, I mean, if you want to 0:11:36.600 --> 0:11:40.920 win the game from the defensive side of things, it 0:11:40.960 --> 0:11:43.720 has to you have to be you know, poison your 0:11:43.720 --> 0:11:47.600 position and letting the linebackers be able to do their job, 0:11:47.880 --> 0:11:52.240 safeties be able to do their job come downhill. So yeah, 0:11:52.240 --> 0:11:54.320 going back to last year's game, you know, you know, 0:11:54.440 --> 0:11:57.920 I personally, if I was on that team, I would 0:11:57.960 --> 0:12:01.760 have held us as the defense very highly responsible for 0:12:01.800 --> 0:12:06.360 that loss because of that in particular thing, people weren't 0:12:06.400 --> 0:12:11.439 taking care of their their responsibility alignment asim key technique. 0:12:11.840 --> 0:12:12.400 It's the thing. 0:12:12.840 --> 0:12:17.079 And and if that's taken care of, there shouldn't be 0:12:17.200 --> 0:12:19.800 no explosive plays. I mean, you're gonna get the odd 0:12:19.840 --> 0:12:23.199 exposive places, but there shouldn't be as many explosive plays happening. 0:12:23.559 --> 0:12:26.240 And explosive plays is what is what kills you on 0:12:26.280 --> 0:12:29.439 the defensive side of things. And personally, you know, when 0:12:29.440 --> 0:12:35.360 I seen Green Bay come in here, which I yeah, yeah, 0:12:35.520 --> 0:12:38.680 so yeah, well the gunslinger a rod got me a bunch. 0:12:38.760 --> 0:12:42.360 But yeah, you know when I see that, I just 0:12:42.840 --> 0:12:44.920 you know, that's the thing that makes me cringees. 0:12:44.960 --> 0:12:45.120 You know. 0:12:45.480 --> 0:12:47.319 Of course the fans want to see the plays, the 0:12:47.400 --> 0:12:49.920 huge plays on defense, the sacks, sacked strips and all that. 0:12:50.000 --> 0:12:53.840 Those are great, Please have those happen. But what needs 0:12:53.880 --> 0:12:56.400 to be handled is the alignment assignment key technique, you know, 0:12:56.520 --> 0:12:59.640 like that has to be handled. And like Marion Nella 0:12:59.679 --> 0:13:02.200 you saw say, which is you know, I'll resort back 0:13:02.240 --> 0:13:03.959 to Marinelli a lot because you know, he's one of 0:13:04.360 --> 0:13:08.079 my favorite coaches, favorite you know, coordinators. And the star 0:13:08.160 --> 0:13:10.320 of the defense is the defense. You know, there's no star, 0:13:10.520 --> 0:13:12.880 there's no one person. There shouldn't be one person, you know, 0:13:13.960 --> 0:13:15.920 there's going to be as there is on this team. 0:13:15.960 --> 0:13:18.040 But you know, the star of the defense is the defense, 0:13:18.040 --> 0:13:19.600 and if that's the way you guys play the game, 0:13:19.640 --> 0:13:23.079 then the defense should handle enough to win the game 0:13:23.120 --> 0:13:24.560 every time. 0:13:24.920 --> 0:13:26.200 So how how hard is it? 0:13:26.200 --> 0:13:27.559 Because it is you know, it's easy for me to 0:13:27.600 --> 0:13:29.400 sit here and say, he got to hold his point 0:13:29.440 --> 0:13:31.840 of attack. He got to be able to sit there 0:13:31.840 --> 0:13:33.720 with you know, double teams and be able to get 0:13:34.120 --> 0:13:36.000 you played the position you played on the inside and 0:13:36.000 --> 0:13:39.080 outside you played at extremely high level. How hard is 0:13:39.080 --> 0:13:41.080 it for that, you know, one tech, three tech, whatever 0:13:41.080 --> 0:13:44.559 the case may be, to hold it there and hold 0:13:44.600 --> 0:13:46.880 that gap position when you got guys, you know, big 0:13:46.880 --> 0:13:49.200 three hundred pounds barreling down on you from either side. 0:13:49.240 --> 0:13:50.599 Because I look at it and I asked you the 0:13:50.679 --> 0:13:53.840 question because last year's you know, first round of Minze Smith, 0:13:54.080 --> 0:13:55.800 you know he had some struggles, you know, staying in 0:13:55.840 --> 0:13:56.920 that gap, and you know. 0:13:56.840 --> 0:13:58.320 It's easy for us to come up here and say, man, 0:13:58.320 --> 0:14:00.800 you gotta stay there. You gotta How hard is. 0:14:00.720 --> 0:14:02.760 It doing on that defensive line to be able to 0:14:02.800 --> 0:14:05.480 maintain that gap presence, to be able to allow your 0:14:05.480 --> 0:14:07.199 linebackers to go sideline ail. 0:14:07.040 --> 0:14:11.000 Yeah, and it's hard, you know obviously, I mean what Kenya, 0:14:11.040 --> 0:14:17.319 you say it's a man's yeah, yeah, yeah, but yeah, 0:14:17.360 --> 0:14:19.440 so I mean down there, it's hard, man. But you know, 0:14:20.440 --> 0:14:22.200 there's a lot of factors that come into play, you know, 0:14:22.240 --> 0:14:24.000 and again a lot of the linebackers have a lot 0:14:24.040 --> 0:14:28.080 of responsibility there as well. You know, if if the 0:14:28.200 --> 0:14:31.360 offensive lineman doesn't coming down as hard, it's because they 0:14:31.360 --> 0:14:33.600 were worried about what that linebacker was about to do. Right, 0:14:34.360 --> 0:14:36.200 So you know, if the linebacker gives a little bit 0:14:36.280 --> 0:14:38.560 better disguise and you know, you know, you guys are 0:14:38.760 --> 0:14:40.640 touching on that in film, you know, that could help. 0:14:41.000 --> 0:14:44.400 But also you know, wait, you know the weight of 0:14:44.400 --> 0:14:47.680 a player, and then maybe uh you know, like for instance, 0:14:47.720 --> 0:14:49.480 I'm gonna put my I'm gonna put myself out there. 0:14:50.400 --> 0:14:53.240 You know. I went from Marinelli where I was off 0:14:53.280 --> 0:14:55.320 the ball, I'm off, I'm off, I'm off. So I'm 0:14:55.400 --> 0:14:55.760 used to that. 0:14:55.800 --> 0:14:57.320 I'm used to get into a spot, and I'm used 0:14:57.320 --> 0:14:59.080 to blowing up the I'm used to blowing up the 0:14:59.120 --> 0:15:03.400 cap to going to Nolan's defense where I was stepping. 0:15:03.680 --> 0:15:07.480 I went from stepping forward to stepping sideways, which I. 0:15:07.400 --> 0:15:10.760 Did not you're getting you're getting hit. Don't go ahead, 0:15:10.800 --> 0:15:18.360 don't okay, let me ask you what I'm saying. I'm sorry, 0:15:18.800 --> 0:15:19.480 you can ask me that. 0:15:19.520 --> 0:15:21.800 But like for what I'm saying for certain players is 0:15:21.800 --> 0:15:25.360 maybe the maybe they're still getting used to the technique 0:15:25.400 --> 0:15:27.520 that needs to be played in that certain defense, you know. 0:15:27.640 --> 0:15:29.520 And and I don't know, I don't know it in 0:15:29.560 --> 0:15:31.640 this case. But what I'm saying is, maybe they are 0:15:31.680 --> 0:15:33.880 getting used to that. Uh, if they're if they're getting 0:15:33.880 --> 0:15:35.680 out of gas, maybe they're telling them to hold onto 0:15:35.720 --> 0:15:37.240 the guard, you know. And like he's like, what do 0:15:37.320 --> 0:15:38.400 you mean hold on to the guard? I'm used to 0:15:38.440 --> 0:15:40.320 blasting his head back, you know. Like That's what I'm 0:15:40.400 --> 0:15:42.280 used to, and that's what I was always used to, 0:15:42.400 --> 0:15:42.880 is getting that. 0:15:43.480 --> 0:15:46.120 You know, I was disruption. I was a disruption player, 0:15:46.200 --> 0:15:46.360 you know. 0:15:46.400 --> 0:15:50.240 I wasn't used to I wasn't used to holding somebody. 0:15:50.520 --> 0:15:50.760 Yeah. 0:15:50.800 --> 0:15:55.160 But yeah, yeah, but you could go, no, we're getting 0:15:55.160 --> 0:15:58.200 passionate I. 0:15:58.880 --> 0:15:59.360 What we do. 0:16:00.280 --> 0:16:02.440 My my question to you is, being a former player 0:16:02.440 --> 0:16:04.600 and a guy that took so much pride in your 0:16:04.680 --> 0:16:07.480 job and your alignment, assignment and just stopping the run, 0:16:07.560 --> 0:16:10.000 is it surprising to you the last couple of years, 0:16:10.000 --> 0:16:13.120 even with Dan Quinn, uh that the Cowboys just haven't 0:16:13.120 --> 0:16:15.520 been able to solve that problem in stopping the run. 0:16:17.960 --> 0:16:19.800 You know, I love DQ and I loved him as 0:16:19.840 --> 0:16:23.960 a as a coordinator. You know, yeah, it's been surprising 0:16:24.000 --> 0:16:26.280 for sure. But you know a lot of that falls 0:16:26.280 --> 0:16:29.120 on I guess. I guess yeah, as an as as 0:16:29.160 --> 0:16:31.720 an Induri or d lineman. You know, you gotta take 0:16:31.760 --> 0:16:33.560 responsibility for a lot of that, you know what I mean. 0:16:33.600 --> 0:16:35.480 And you know that's what I you know, that's what 0:16:35.480 --> 0:16:37.520 we did when we played and you know, when when 0:16:37.560 --> 0:16:39.880 I knew that, hey, I got to do my job better. 0:16:40.760 --> 0:16:43.280 You know that, you know, the responsibility falls on us. 0:16:43.320 --> 0:16:46.240 And yeah, I'm you know, I'm the interior D line. 0:16:47.600 --> 0:16:50.920 I guess we haven't been able to, you know, put 0:16:50.920 --> 0:16:54.880 the puzzle in order, put the puzzle like correctly right now. 0:16:55.600 --> 0:16:57.680 You know, I feel like that that's that's near and 0:16:57.880 --> 0:17:01.840 you know, but you know, obviously playing nose is not easy. 0:17:01.920 --> 0:17:05.000 You know, there's like Nick Hayden played nose the best 0:17:05.040 --> 0:17:09.840 that I've been around. And he will golden cock doodle. 0:17:11.200 --> 0:17:21.639 So wow, yea his name. Wow. He literally had a 0:17:21.640 --> 0:17:24.600 golden rooster on his shirt. That I love everybody. It 0:17:24.680 --> 0:17:25.200 was awesome. 0:17:25.520 --> 0:17:29.520 But yeah, I mean, like there's just you know, four 0:17:29.560 --> 0:17:32.199 equals one on the D line and that again, you know, 0:17:32.320 --> 0:17:36.879 like to be able to play a double team the 0:17:36.920 --> 0:17:39.480 way you know, some defensive coordinators want you to play. 0:17:39.520 --> 0:17:42.760 It's it's just more difficult. But it takes. It takes everybody. 0:17:42.880 --> 0:17:44.199 You know, if that's the way you need to play it, 0:17:44.240 --> 0:17:46.119 then everybody needs to be playing it the same you know. 0:17:46.200 --> 0:17:49.520 So yeah, I mean everybody just needs to be on 0:17:49.520 --> 0:17:52.040 the same page. And I think I I truly think 0:17:52.080 --> 0:17:54.120 that they did do a really good job at stopping 0:17:54.119 --> 0:17:56.480 the run for a long time last year. It's just 0:17:56.520 --> 0:17:58.919 there's there's breakout games where everybody is like damn, like 0:18:00.040 --> 0:18:00.440 and stop. 0:18:01.840 --> 0:18:03.680 Yeah, like those games, they're like, ah. 0:18:03.520 --> 0:18:05.800 Man, they didn't really they did bad, And those games 0:18:05.840 --> 0:18:07.920 stick out to you more than the games. 0:18:07.960 --> 0:18:10.040 Really they did good st games, but they did they did. 0:18:10.119 --> 0:18:12.400 Oh guys, man, we are rolling along. We gonna take 0:18:12.400 --> 0:18:16.119 a first break. But he's already teased what our second 0:18:16.720 --> 0:18:19.720 segment is about. Man, this man seeing a bunch of 0:18:19.760 --> 0:18:22.600 defensive coordinators. 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I know, you you 0:21:30.040 --> 0:21:33.200 talk fundly of Marinelli and what that may have been 0:21:33.320 --> 0:21:36.480 like going to the next administration or the next defensive coordinator. 0:21:37.320 --> 0:21:41.320 Yeah, I mean, you know, coming in it was was 0:21:41.440 --> 0:21:41.960 quite easy. 0:21:42.000 --> 0:21:44.239 You know, I came in and we played under Rob 0:21:44.280 --> 0:21:48.600 Bryant's defense, and you know, I was I needed to 0:21:48.640 --> 0:21:50.000 gain a lot of weight. I got up to like 0:21:50.040 --> 0:21:53.520 three hundred pounds, and you know, it was like, I 0:21:53.520 --> 0:21:56.639 guess that's really the difficult, difficult, you know side of 0:21:56.680 --> 0:21:58.720 things is the different way they want you to play 0:21:58.800 --> 0:22:01.200 D line and different way you need to play D 0:22:01.320 --> 0:22:03.560 line in order. Like I said, if if, if you're 0:22:03.560 --> 0:22:05.159 not doing it the same as everybody else and you're 0:22:05.160 --> 0:22:06.840 trying to do your own thing, it's just not gonna work. 0:22:06.840 --> 0:22:08.640 You're gonna have a lot of explosive plays and that's 0:22:08.640 --> 0:22:11.399 not good for ball. So you know, Rob Ryan I 0:22:11.480 --> 0:22:14.280 was two gapping, you know, and which was good for 0:22:14.320 --> 0:22:16.119 me at that time, and that's what I love to do. 0:22:16.200 --> 0:22:21.720 But then you know Kiff came in. R I p Yeah, yeah, kid, 0:22:22.920 --> 0:22:25.199 And Kiff came in and and and that was a 0:22:25.240 --> 0:22:28.159 great transition because Marinelli was the D line coach and 0:22:28.200 --> 0:22:30.119 it was again off the ball, off the ball, and 0:22:30.160 --> 0:22:31.960 then speed speed was our thing. 0:22:33.200 --> 0:22:35.879 Yeah, went from a three four to four three four. 0:22:35.800 --> 0:22:38.800 Three yeah, and and so yeah, and so Kiff was 0:22:38.800 --> 0:22:43.480 the coordinator, but you know, Marinelli was you know, I 0:22:43.520 --> 0:22:45.320 don't know, like they were both kind of running the 0:22:45.359 --> 0:22:48.000 ship right, so it was it was it was Kiff, 0:22:48.040 --> 0:22:50.639 but it was really Marinelli, you know, holding it down 0:22:50.800 --> 0:22:54.359 for those entire pretty much my entire career, almost my 0:22:54.520 --> 0:22:57.800 entire career, which was which was great because you know, 0:22:57.840 --> 0:23:00.159 I love the way our defense was played, and it 0:23:00.240 --> 0:23:03.800 was played the same every time. You know, the point was, hey, 0:23:04.280 --> 0:23:05.639 you could know what we're doing, but you got to 0:23:05.680 --> 0:23:07.200 stop it. You know what I'm saying, like we're gonna 0:23:07.200 --> 0:23:08.800 get off the ball and you got to stop it. 0:23:08.840 --> 0:23:09.879 And the lad. 0:23:12.000 --> 0:23:14.520 In your gaps and they were like, you ain't your gap. 0:23:14.720 --> 0:23:16.520 This is what this is why we had an explosive play. 0:23:16.760 --> 0:23:20.800 It was like blaming on you because that's why exactly 0:23:20.840 --> 0:23:24.920 what it was. But then yeah, going uh when when 0:23:24.960 --> 0:23:29.800 Marinelli left and went to the Raiders and then we 0:23:29.840 --> 0:23:32.040 had Nolan come in, and then you know, it was 0:23:32.119 --> 0:23:35.560 completely different technique for me. So again, you know, they 0:23:35.560 --> 0:23:38.119 tried to play me inside, wasn't I would have I 0:23:38.160 --> 0:23:41.320 would have preferred outside in that in that defense just 0:23:41.359 --> 0:23:43.919 because it just wasn't meant for me. I was, you 0:23:43.960 --> 0:23:46.280 know at that time one hundred or two hundred and 0:23:46.280 --> 0:23:47.280 eighty poundy lineman. 0:23:48.000 --> 0:23:49.680 I wasn't I wasn't able. 0:23:49.800 --> 0:23:52.679 I wasn't able to about a hundred something found you 0:23:52.720 --> 0:24:01.439 ain't probably waiting, I wrote, there we ball right, No, 0:24:01.600 --> 0:24:04.359 but yeah, so yeah, just the just the difference in 0:24:04.440 --> 0:24:08.760 uh in decoordinators is the difference in the way uh 0:24:09.040 --> 0:24:11.320 you know, you play your gaps the way your assignment's played. 0:24:11.400 --> 0:24:14.560 And you know that's where I struggled when Nolan came in. 0:24:15.160 --> 0:24:17.520 You know, I struggled to hold the gaps and to 0:24:17.640 --> 0:24:19.240 play the double teams. They wanted me to play the 0:24:19.240 --> 0:24:21.000 double teams. I was used to blowing up the double 0:24:21.000 --> 0:24:23.680 team and you know, getting there first before, you know, 0:24:23.760 --> 0:24:26.600 letting them get to me is weird, and I wasn't 0:24:26.600 --> 0:24:27.119 a fan of it. 0:24:27.600 --> 0:24:29.840 Tried my best to do it. I'm again, I'm not 0:24:29.840 --> 0:24:31.840 the type of guy that's gonna, you know, of a 0:24:32.240 --> 0:24:34.159 from the from the team the way we're supposed to 0:24:34.200 --> 0:24:35.640 be doing things. I'm gonna try my best to get 0:24:35.680 --> 0:24:37.240 to get it done the way it's supposed to be. 0:24:37.760 --> 0:24:37.840 Uh. 0:24:37.920 --> 0:24:39.600 But that's kind of new, that's kind of you know, 0:24:40.160 --> 0:24:42.520 you know, a little percentage of the reason why you 0:24:42.520 --> 0:24:44.399 know I knew it was it was getting close to 0:24:44.400 --> 0:24:46.560 the time that I need to be done the game. 0:24:47.760 --> 0:24:50.720 But yeah, so yeah, I mean it was definitely a 0:24:50.720 --> 0:24:52.560 blessing to be able to, you know, have all those 0:24:52.720 --> 0:24:55.639 coordinators in my career and meet different men, uh that 0:24:55.720 --> 0:24:59.719 love the game of football. But yeah, I mean Marionelli's 0:24:59.720 --> 0:25:02.800 defense was obviously my favorite. And and again like even 0:25:02.840 --> 0:25:06.600 in Zimmers or last year, like like I'll say this 0:25:06.720 --> 0:25:08.879 right now, to have a great say like if they 0:25:08.920 --> 0:25:10.280 had a Barry Church, you know. 0:25:10.359 --> 0:25:11.280 Like like a bear. 0:25:12.720 --> 0:25:16.080 Like safety like this, the safeties and strong safeties they're 0:25:16.200 --> 0:25:19.240 like so like important in those defenses. And like you 0:25:19.280 --> 0:25:21.240 know we had the Blues Brothers. We were just talking 0:25:21.280 --> 0:25:27.040 about that allet but you know, hitters, downhill players, fast 0:25:27.040 --> 0:25:28.800 players and just just ball guys. 0:25:29.600 --> 0:25:31.679 Yeah, that's what they wanted. Barry. How does that? How 0:25:31.720 --> 0:25:32.480 does that impact you? 0:25:32.520 --> 0:25:35.520 Because obviously the front half impacts the back half also 0:25:35.600 --> 0:25:40.080 you've been through that transition as well. Going from dan Quinn, 0:25:40.240 --> 0:25:42.960 we think about three safeties you know, now going to 0:25:43.040 --> 0:25:46.440 the two safety look man or our zone look now 0:25:46.760 --> 0:25:49.680 with the with the no zone, look now with versusly 0:25:49.960 --> 0:25:52.440 versus what dan Quinn would do and man, how much 0:25:52.440 --> 0:25:55.240 of a transition would that be for the secondary guys? 0:25:55.280 --> 0:25:56.800 Also to make an adjustment. 0:25:57.000 --> 0:25:59.240 It's a huge adjustment, just like Crawford was talking about 0:25:59.280 --> 0:26:01.600 with the D line, and when you look at it, 0:26:01.680 --> 0:26:03.960 you know, like Knew, he always says, Warren sav says, 0:26:04.000 --> 0:26:05.760 you know, the back don't work without the front, and 0:26:06.040 --> 0:26:07.800 that's one hundred percent true. The more you can get 0:26:07.840 --> 0:26:09.520 on that quarterback, you more can stop the run and 0:26:09.560 --> 0:26:11.280 make that team one dimensional easier. 0:26:11.320 --> 0:26:12.760 It makes our job in the back end. 0:26:13.040 --> 0:26:15.160 But when you switch up coordinators like that, and I'll 0:26:15.200 --> 0:26:17.679 go back, you know to our example early on in 0:26:17.720 --> 0:26:20.359 your career when we had Rex, Ryan was here and 0:26:20.440 --> 0:26:22.720 you know we got Mo Claiborne, who was a corner 0:26:22.720 --> 0:26:24.920 in the secondary and you know, he was a man 0:26:24.960 --> 0:26:27.800 guy LSU four perward winner because he was able to 0:26:27.840 --> 0:26:30.080 lock people down and just play man to man and 0:26:30.160 --> 0:26:31.040 that and that was it. 0:26:31.080 --> 0:26:32.159 That was what his job was. 0:26:32.200 --> 0:26:34.840 So in Rex's system, you know, he was a man 0:26:34.880 --> 0:26:36.760 guy and he was able to flourish. And then we 0:26:36.840 --> 0:26:39.800 transitioned to Marinelli system, which was you know, more of 0:26:39.840 --> 0:26:41.639 a four to three. You know, we played you know, 0:26:41.680 --> 0:26:43.119 some man here and there, but we were more like 0:26:43.160 --> 0:26:45.480 a fire zone type of thing, getting after the quarterback 0:26:45.600 --> 0:26:47.920 and having eyes on a quarterback as a secondary. 0:26:48.040 --> 0:26:49.960 Now for me, I loved it because I was able. 0:26:49.760 --> 0:26:51.520 To just kind of float around and do my poll 0:26:51.560 --> 0:26:53.040 of mylu thing where I'm just kind of like, all right, 0:26:53.040 --> 0:26:54.600 I'm gonna help over here, I'm gonna help over there. 0:26:54.640 --> 0:26:56.679 I made blitz here and there. So I loved it. 0:26:56.680 --> 0:26:58.240 But when you got guys like a you know, a 0:26:58.280 --> 0:27:00.280 Clayborne or a car on the outside of that used 0:27:00.280 --> 0:27:02.199 to just man and man, I need to lock this 0:27:02.280 --> 0:27:05.320 dude down and play zone and kind of communicating more 0:27:05.359 --> 0:27:07.600 with the secondary, it makes things a little bit tough. 0:27:07.640 --> 0:27:10.280 So when you bring up those points about the d line, 0:27:10.280 --> 0:27:12.280 you know how they play double teams. I didn't even 0:27:12.320 --> 0:27:14.160 really think about it that way. I'm thinking, oh, yeah, 0:27:14.160 --> 0:27:15.600 this guy needs to be able to hold it down. 0:27:15.680 --> 0:27:17.920 But there's true because when you you know, you're used 0:27:17.920 --> 0:27:20.480 to penetrating and and blowing things up, and you come 0:27:20.480 --> 0:27:22.240 to a system where, oh man, I got to hold 0:27:22.280 --> 0:27:22.840 it down right. 0:27:22.760 --> 0:27:24.800 Here instead, it's a whole lot different. 0:27:24.840 --> 0:27:27.240 And I didn't even think about it through that lens 0:27:27.280 --> 0:27:30.479 that it can turn things around. So that's why you know, 0:27:30.640 --> 0:27:33.720 we brought up that question, you know, switching decordinators because 0:27:33.720 --> 0:27:35.720 this team obviously went from Quinn and now to the 0:27:35.800 --> 0:27:39.920 Zimmer and Quinn was a predominantly man kind of exotic 0:27:40.000 --> 0:27:42.280 multiple defense blitzing from here and there, and then you 0:27:42.359 --> 0:27:44.480 got Zim who's kind of kind of similar to Marinelli, 0:27:44.520 --> 0:27:46.119 which is, look, we're gonna line up in this. 0:27:46.200 --> 0:27:47.800 We're gonna have variations off of it. 0:27:48.200 --> 0:27:49.960 You know, we may look the same, we may blitz 0:27:50.040 --> 0:27:52.720 from that same look, but it's predominantly gonna be like, 0:27:52.720 --> 0:27:53.480 this is what we're in. 0:27:53.760 --> 0:27:54.800 We'll see what you can do. 0:27:55.400 --> 0:27:57.280 So the player is definitely gonna have to transition, but 0:27:57.400 --> 0:27:59.440 you know that's why you know, they're professionals, and he 0:27:59.480 --> 0:28:01.000 should be able to go out there and get the 0:28:01.040 --> 0:28:02.159 job done and we'll see what they can do. 0:28:02.200 --> 0:28:02.720 This show how. 0:28:02.600 --> 0:28:05.280 Refreshing is it as players to see like this defense 0:28:05.400 --> 0:28:08.520 is still kind of in that vein of forcing those turnovers. 0:28:08.560 --> 0:28:10.560 They got to pick six in this game as well. 0:28:11.040 --> 0:28:14.000 But you guys know, you know, if you live by that, 0:28:14.119 --> 0:28:16.679 you die by that? Is that something also? Obviously you 0:28:16.720 --> 0:28:19.679 see that transition carry over to this this team. Is 0:28:19.720 --> 0:28:21.920 that something positive for you? You saying, look, I just want 0:28:21.920 --> 0:28:24.320 to see y'all start to run. All that other stuff 0:28:24.520 --> 0:28:25.400 is gonna come later. 0:28:25.800 --> 0:28:28.480 You know, I love it because, like you said, when 0:28:28.480 --> 0:28:31.480 you when you're talking defense, ball guys or where it's at. 0:28:31.560 --> 0:28:33.439 And if you got guys that can get after the 0:28:33.440 --> 0:28:37.359 football and take the ball away and any means necessary, 0:28:37.440 --> 0:28:40.440 then you're gonna have success in that defense. So we 0:28:40.480 --> 0:28:42.400 got ball you like, look at Digs Diggs. I don't 0:28:42.440 --> 0:28:44.520 think it matters what system he's in. He's gonna get 0:28:44.520 --> 0:28:47.080 after the football. Same with Bland. He's proven these first 0:28:47.080 --> 0:28:50.000 two years that no matter what system, zone man, he's 0:28:50.000 --> 0:28:52.040 gonna find a way to get the ball and take 0:28:52.040 --> 0:28:54.040 it back the other way. And then you got guys 0:28:54.120 --> 0:28:56.360 like you know d Law who you know, he may 0:28:56.400 --> 0:28:59.520 not have those same sack numbers that he had years ago, but. 0:28:59.640 --> 0:29:00.840 We talked about it last year. 0:29:00.880 --> 0:29:03.719 He probably the best run defender that we've seen on 0:29:03.720 --> 0:29:04.600 this defensive line. 0:29:04.640 --> 0:29:06.680 I mean that guy plays at an extremely high level. 0:29:06.680 --> 0:29:09.239 And of course you got the big Mazukah Parsons out 0:29:09.240 --> 0:29:11.480 there being able to do what he does. So they have, 0:29:11.640 --> 0:29:14.880 in my opinion, enough ball guys throughout that defense to 0:29:14.960 --> 0:29:18.640 where they can make some noise. They could definitely make 0:29:18.680 --> 0:29:20.840 some noise, but it all comes back to me, you 0:29:20.920 --> 0:29:22.520 gotta be able to stop the run, because if you 0:29:22.520 --> 0:29:25.080 can make that team one dimensional, then I mean the 0:29:25.120 --> 0:29:26.160 rest is history after that. 0:29:26.280 --> 0:29:29.160 So guys, I gotta you know, I believe. Over the weekend, 0:29:29.800 --> 0:29:32.480 Jerry did an interview where he was talking about the 0:29:32.560 --> 0:29:37.480 team still being active in acquisitions and free agency and 0:29:37.520 --> 0:29:41.480 they're combing all of the rosters in the NFL. But 0:29:41.720 --> 0:29:44.440 history has shown us that when it comes down to 0:29:44.880 --> 0:29:48.120 signing a free agent, we're gonna get the guy that 0:29:48.360 --> 0:29:50.440 is you know, long in the tooth, tenured. You know, 0:29:50.680 --> 0:29:54.800 it's not gonna be one of those splash pickups or anything. 0:29:55.000 --> 0:29:57.040 Do you see that this team, this is the way 0:29:57.080 --> 0:29:59.480 that things are rounding off right now? Do you think 0:29:59.520 --> 0:30:02.880 that the Boys, even with having a sign CD even 0:30:02.920 --> 0:30:06.480 to sign back signed Micah, seeing them make a splash 0:30:06.560 --> 0:30:09.440 in free agency on this to help this d line 0:30:09.480 --> 0:30:10.800 before the season starts. 0:30:11.080 --> 0:30:15.920 Do I see that happening taking the church? 0:30:16.040 --> 0:30:20.840 I could be honest, I don't see it happening. You know, 0:30:20.920 --> 0:30:22.760 it's been a string. I think the last we talked 0:30:22.760 --> 0:30:25.520 about the last big time free agent signing, like like 0:30:25.600 --> 0:30:28.640 splash top of the market guy was you know, you know, 0:30:28.680 --> 0:30:31.560 maybe b Car you know when we played and you 0:30:31.600 --> 0:30:33.800 know we talked about it, just it's just not in 0:30:34.680 --> 0:30:36.600 I don't know if it's their formula or however. They 0:30:36.640 --> 0:30:38.840 you know, want to break things down, but you know 0:30:38.880 --> 0:30:42.640 they rely on getting the free agency free agent guys 0:30:42.640 --> 0:30:44.560 that you know, maybe your towards the you know, the 0:30:44.600 --> 0:30:47.000 bottom half and you know, get long in the tooth 0:30:47.200 --> 0:30:49.640 ten years, eleven years, and you know that that has 0:30:49.680 --> 0:30:52.560 worked on some occasions. But when you look at it, 0:30:53.040 --> 0:30:55.360 the season is so much longer now almost you know, 0:30:55.400 --> 0:30:59.520 eighteen seventeen, eighteen games. You know, it's hard to put 0:30:59.680 --> 0:31:01.680 you know, X amount of plays on a guy in 0:31:01.840 --> 0:31:02.440 year eleven. 0:31:02.680 --> 0:31:05.000 You know, it's tough. It is real tough. 0:31:05.080 --> 0:31:07.320 And that's just something I you know, I really didn't 0:31:07.400 --> 0:31:10.200 understand when it came to you know, the Cowboys as 0:31:10.200 --> 0:31:13.040 far as you know, going out there and acquiring new 0:31:13.080 --> 0:31:15.440 players on the team is and you know, and it 0:31:15.440 --> 0:31:17.000 ain't guaranteed to work. If you go out there and 0:31:17.000 --> 0:31:18.920 get a prime guy, it's not guaranteed to work. But 0:31:20.080 --> 0:31:23.000 you know, I just feel like maybe just to take 0:31:23.000 --> 0:31:25.000 a shot at it every now and then, to take 0:31:25.040 --> 0:31:26.760 a shot. But it's easy for me to sit here 0:31:26.800 --> 0:31:28.160 and say that, you know, I ain't on the field 0:31:28.160 --> 0:31:28.360 no more. 0:31:28.360 --> 0:31:29.719 That's easy for me to sit there and say that. 0:31:29.800 --> 0:31:31.560 So you know what Jerry always says, you know, he 0:31:31.720 --> 0:31:33.800 likes his guys and he likes to you know, groom 0:31:33.840 --> 0:31:35.840 them from when they draft him and pay those type 0:31:35.880 --> 0:31:38.200 of guys, which I understand as well. But you know, 0:31:38.520 --> 0:31:40.480 sometimes you may need to go out there and get 0:31:40.480 --> 0:31:42.200 you a prime guy to take you over the hump. 0:31:42.240 --> 0:31:43.760 You know, I don't know how you feel about that. 0:31:44.160 --> 0:31:46.760 I really appreciate it about that about Jerry by the way, you. 0:31:46.720 --> 0:31:49.520 Know, like around. 0:31:51.600 --> 0:32:01.440 But philosophy as like that, stay with your God, No, 0:32:01.560 --> 0:32:02.280 but I do. 0:32:02.400 --> 0:32:04.880 I do think, yeah, like you know, if they're if 0:32:04.920 --> 0:32:07.680 there's the person that you know you can't pass on, yes, 0:32:07.880 --> 0:32:09.520 take that shot, you know what I'm saying. But like, 0:32:09.600 --> 0:32:12.160 I don't see anybody out there right now that they 0:32:12.160 --> 0:32:14.320 can go and grab the D line. I love Osa, 0:32:14.520 --> 0:32:16.160 you know, I love what OSA can do. He's not 0:32:16.160 --> 0:32:18.880 in there, you know, like he's dealing with some things 0:32:18.920 --> 0:32:20.600 right now. So you know, he's not in there right now, 0:32:20.880 --> 0:32:22.720 you know, And I think, you know, with a little 0:32:22.720 --> 0:32:26.000 bit of help and a little bit of I guess 0:32:26.040 --> 0:32:30.240 like understanding of you know, what this defense of interior 0:32:30.320 --> 0:32:32.520 line needs I think it's just going to grow on 0:32:32.600 --> 0:32:34.360 these guys and just they're just gonna get better and 0:32:34.440 --> 0:32:35.120 better inside. 0:32:36.360 --> 0:32:36.560 You know. 0:32:36.600 --> 0:32:38.800 But it kind of it's just it needs to happen, 0:32:39.240 --> 0:32:40.680 a lot of people want to see it right now. 0:32:40.720 --> 0:32:41.920 You know, a lot of a lot of people want 0:32:41.960 --> 0:32:44.920 to see you know, you know, that improvement right now, 0:32:44.960 --> 0:32:47.480 and you know, hopefully it does happen sooner than later. 0:32:47.840 --> 0:32:49.960 But you know, I don't feel like, you know, there's 0:32:50.000 --> 0:32:52.320 anybody out there that that can go and you know, 0:32:52.400 --> 0:32:55.960 fix the problem. The problem is to me, it's easily fixed. 0:32:56.000 --> 0:33:00.520 You know, we will tell us please, I mean, which 0:33:00.720 --> 0:33:01.680 hanging on every word? 0:33:01.760 --> 0:33:07.360 What what you got to say? Oh man, well it's 0:33:07.440 --> 0:33:07.920 not it's not. 0:33:07.960 --> 0:33:10.120 I'm not saying it's an easy fix, but it literally 0:33:10.240 --> 0:33:15.880 is just just do your job in that moment. Just 0:33:15.960 --> 0:33:18.640 do your job or that moment. And there's ways, so 0:33:18.840 --> 0:33:21.280 say we were talking about people getting kicked out of 0:33:21.320 --> 0:33:24.280 their gap, there's ways to stop that from happening, you 0:33:24.320 --> 0:33:26.560 know what I'm saying, bring it, like make the linebacker 0:33:26.640 --> 0:33:28.960 do something to stop that from happening. You know, like 0:33:29.040 --> 0:33:32.400 there's ways to you know, improve on those on those 0:33:32.560 --> 0:33:35.040 you know, areas where it's a little bit flawed right now. 0:33:35.720 --> 0:33:38.560 And I think, you know, yeah, please go go and 0:33:38.600 --> 0:33:40.360 get the splash guy if you can go and get him. 0:33:40.360 --> 0:33:42.040 And I don't know any if you know a name, 0:33:42.240 --> 0:33:44.040 throw it out there, but like, I don't know any name. 0:33:44.120 --> 0:33:45.960 I can't think of anybody that can just go and 0:33:46.360 --> 0:33:48.040 get at easy or I mean. 0:33:48.680 --> 0:33:49.800 Point at this point. 0:33:49.880 --> 0:33:52.040 Yeah, I mean, it would have been great in the 0:33:52.080 --> 0:33:56.280 off season. But again, you know, the guys that we have, 0:33:56.440 --> 0:33:59.000 I think they can handle the job. I'm you know, 0:33:59.520 --> 0:34:03.440 and that's keeping it real, taking ahead of the job. 0:34:03.520 --> 0:34:05.560 I just think, you know, it just needs to be. 0:34:06.000 --> 0:34:08.560 This defense needs to just they just need to feed 0:34:08.640 --> 0:34:11.759 on it and just get better at it and and 0:34:11.760 --> 0:34:14.919 and and live it and and just just you don't 0:34:14.960 --> 0:34:16.840 have to be all fancy. Just get in there and 0:34:16.840 --> 0:34:19.440 hold that gap. Hold that gap so a linebacker can 0:34:19.520 --> 0:34:22.000 make the play here here and then the nose hold 0:34:22.040 --> 0:34:23.440 that gap, you know what I mean, Like, I mean, 0:34:24.080 --> 0:34:24.960 it's it's. 0:34:26.160 --> 0:34:27.799 When you're thinking about it, it's not that hard. 0:34:27.840 --> 0:34:30.719 But yeah, you you see, like if somebody didn't do 0:34:30.760 --> 0:34:32.640 the right thing somewhere else, then yeah, you're gonna get 0:34:32.719 --> 0:34:33.480 knocked out of your gap. 0:34:34.480 --> 0:34:35.279 It's gonna spill out. 0:34:35.320 --> 0:34:39.359 He fighting, It's gonna come out. 0:34:39.840 --> 0:34:41.040 What are you doing on Sundays? 0:34:41.040 --> 0:34:41.200 Man? 0:34:41.239 --> 0:34:42.960 You busy on Sundays? Man, you're still uckily. 0:34:43.000 --> 0:34:48.080 You got a little running, you got some days. Some 0:34:48.239 --> 0:34:55.439 days is for you know, relax, relax on someday. Yeah, 0:34:55.440 --> 0:34:56.280 that's for the girls. 0:34:56.280 --> 0:34:59.520 And you know, just to just to learn and you know, uh, 0:34:59.760 --> 0:35:02.239 you know, give give our praise and our appreciation to him. 0:35:02.280 --> 0:35:02.680 Believe that. 0:35:03.400 --> 0:35:05.600 Hey man, hey, we like I said, you never know 0:35:05.600 --> 0:35:06.880 it man until you do a show with er Man. 0:35:06.920 --> 0:35:08.520 So we asked a couple of questions here on the 0:35:08.560 --> 0:35:12.400 show just to get to know people. Uh, Tupaca, biggie, 0:35:12.840 --> 0:35:23.480 I'm going Tupac. Your favorite Eddie Murphy movie. Come, don't 0:35:23.480 --> 0:35:24.320 be taking my card? 0:35:24.440 --> 0:35:26.320 You know what I'm saying. Cards? 0:35:27.280 --> 0:35:35.960 Card? Oh my god, come on, we're waiting. 0:35:37.360 --> 0:35:41.400 Come on, your card is out of your pocket. Yeah, I. 0:35:43.480 --> 0:35:47.880 Don't got one, man, man, I got a favorite. 0:35:47.560 --> 0:35:49.799 Eddie like I mean, I love I love him all. 0:35:49.840 --> 0:35:50.680 I don't got one. 0:35:50.719 --> 0:35:52.520 But if you know, if I had to say one 0:35:52.680 --> 0:35:57.120 is it's when I was a kid man like you know, 0:35:57.200 --> 0:35:57.840 watching him. 0:35:59.400 --> 0:36:04.360 It's life is lifetop fast, Who give me? Give me? 0:36:04.600 --> 0:36:11.960 Course you ain't likely don't even worry about smarting. I'll 0:36:11.960 --> 0:36:18.640 watched it when I was older. Yeah no, ask me 0:36:18.640 --> 0:36:23.080 about Martin. No, no, no, no, no no. We're good right there, 0:36:23.120 --> 0:36:23.520 We're good. 0:36:23.760 --> 0:36:23.960 Yeah. 0:36:24.800 --> 0:36:27.080 Jip jazz, jip jazz. Go ahead, take us the break? 0:36:27.160 --> 0:36:33.120 Yeah you good man? 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He's kept 0:39:18.160 --> 0:39:19.319 it real, all right. 0:39:19.560 --> 0:39:22.080 But I've been digging, man, I'm trying to get some dirt, 0:39:23.120 --> 0:39:24.160 just something from you. 0:39:24.320 --> 0:39:24.560 Cap. 0:39:24.640 --> 0:39:28.960 Come on, that's why they called him that the cat took. 0:39:29.800 --> 0:39:33.920 I got an accountability listen. I'm sorry. 0:39:34.200 --> 0:39:42.120 I'm good though, So for me, honestly, I I had 0:39:42.120 --> 0:39:44.360 players do the same thing to me, and I'm like, 0:39:44.400 --> 0:39:48.560 I'm a fighter. I mean, sadly, sadly, I've had some 0:39:48.600 --> 0:39:51.680 regrets in my life. But like when I would hear it, 0:39:51.680 --> 0:39:54.160 it would initially like get me angry to the point 0:39:54.160 --> 0:39:55.839 where like the next time I seen him I was like, yo, 0:39:55.920 --> 0:39:57.719 like you're smiling in my face, Like why are you 0:39:57.719 --> 0:39:58.520 smiling in my face? 0:39:58.560 --> 0:39:59.839 Like I heard what you said to me on air. 0:40:00.000 --> 0:40:01.239 You know what I'm saying, Like I want to punch 0:40:01.280 --> 0:40:03.759 you in your mouth right now. But like so that's 0:40:03.800 --> 0:40:05.359 why I don't do it like I have I have 0:40:05.440 --> 0:40:08.000 to calm back. I have to stay back from. I 0:40:08.040 --> 0:40:09.879 don't think you have to worry about that. Bro. 0:40:10.000 --> 0:40:11.360 Oh no, I'm not worried about I. 0:40:14.480 --> 0:40:18.520 Just I just I can tell you from one man 0:40:18.600 --> 0:40:20.960 to another, I don't think that I. 0:40:21.760 --> 0:40:24.960 Don't know about them to have them emotions. I want 0:40:25.000 --> 0:40:28.239 to let's keep in church. 0:40:29.719 --> 0:40:32.360 So here's a question that half of you guys, obviously 0:40:32.480 --> 0:40:35.200 a lot of Cowboy Nation is concerned about the running back. 0:40:36.120 --> 0:40:38.840 How concerned are you guys right now going into the season. 0:40:39.160 --> 0:40:41.799 You have Ezekiel Elliott that obviously is ninth year in 0:40:41.800 --> 0:40:44.960 the NFL, recaldal Or a guy that really still I 0:40:44.960 --> 0:40:46.520 think is unproven. 0:40:47.360 --> 0:40:49.480 I would say that, all right, we got el Boogie, 0:40:49.520 --> 0:40:55.040 we got I can't believe you. 0:40:55.400 --> 0:41:02.120 I can't believe you, but I'm trying to do I'm 0:41:02.160 --> 0:41:03.839 trying to help the show out here. 0:41:04.280 --> 0:41:04.640 I get it. 0:41:05.239 --> 0:41:08.040 So look, here's here's what I'm asking guys, and you 0:41:08.120 --> 0:41:10.840 gotta feel peel. As far as this coming down to 0:41:10.880 --> 0:41:14.640 the final fifty three? Will the Cowboys keep four running back? 0:41:14.680 --> 0:41:17.840 So you go with three? And that comes down to 0:41:17.960 --> 0:41:20.600 the question about Rico o'dado and Malik Davis. 0:41:21.160 --> 0:41:23.040 So when it comes to me, like you said, I 0:41:23.040 --> 0:41:23.960 think you're gonna. 0:41:23.760 --> 0:41:26.359 Keep Zeke for Shore is gonna be here because at 0:41:26.360 --> 0:41:29.160 the very worst, even if he's nowhere near you know, 0:41:29.239 --> 0:41:31.319 zekea twenty sixteen or however you want to see him, 0:41:31.719 --> 0:41:33.080 at the very worst, he's gonna be able to put 0:41:33.120 --> 0:41:34.400 the ball in the end zone. Like when you get 0:41:34.440 --> 0:41:36.360 to the two yard line, three yard he's gonna be 0:41:36.360 --> 0:41:37.719 able to punch it in. And that's where you know 0:41:37.760 --> 0:41:40.520 this team last year kind of struggled. They had a 0:41:40.560 --> 0:41:42.239 lot of exposive play though when you got to those 0:41:42.239 --> 0:41:45.120 short yarded situations, there wasn't really someone who can get 0:41:45.120 --> 0:41:46.600 it in the end zone. So you know, Zeke's gonna 0:41:46.600 --> 0:41:48.080 be here because he's gonna, at the very worst be 0:41:48.120 --> 0:41:49.960 able to do that and he can pick up blocks, 0:41:50.000 --> 0:41:51.799 you know, as with with with one of the best 0:41:51.840 --> 0:41:54.120 of them to do that. So to me, it's gonna 0:41:54.120 --> 0:42:00.759 come down to Malik Davis and Rico and I you know, 0:42:01.040 --> 0:42:03.680 they may keep I just I can't see him keeping 0:42:03.719 --> 0:42:06.479 all three because you're gonna have to put Hunter Limke 0:42:06.640 --> 0:42:06.879 on there. 0:42:07.120 --> 0:42:08.319 But you're gonna have to be in there because he's 0:42:08.320 --> 0:42:09.239 a special teams guy. 0:42:09.400 --> 0:42:11.480 Yeah, you're gonna have to keep him on there because 0:42:11.440 --> 0:42:14.000 he's gonna be special teams guy, your full back. You 0:42:14.040 --> 0:42:15.600 know you're gonna have to keep him on there. So 0:42:15.880 --> 0:42:17.759 I think it's gonna come down to those two, and 0:42:18.239 --> 0:42:20.400 they're very similar if you look at it. You know, 0:42:20.520 --> 0:42:23.800 Rico's a slashing guy. He can get you explosive plays, 0:42:23.800 --> 0:42:26.640 but so is Malak showing a burst in the preseason game. 0:42:27.239 --> 0:42:29.920 So to me, what it's gonna come down to those 0:42:29.920 --> 0:42:33.080 two individuals is what can do Who can do more? 0:42:33.200 --> 0:42:35.799 Who can receive out of the backfield, who can you know, 0:42:35.880 --> 0:42:37.680 pick up the blocks if something were to happen to 0:42:37.760 --> 0:42:40.080 Zeke as far as a blocking back, who's can put 0:42:40.080 --> 0:42:41.920 the ball on the end zone from the two yard line, 0:42:42.120 --> 0:42:44.799 and who can who can contribute on special teams Because 0:42:44.840 --> 0:42:46.680 you're not gonna hold a roster spot if you're not 0:42:46.719 --> 0:42:48.640 that starting guy and they're not going by you know, 0:42:48.840 --> 0:42:50.080 running back by committee. 0:42:50.239 --> 0:42:51.200 Who's gonna be able. 0:42:51.000 --> 0:42:53.399 To contribute on special teams under fossils you know, crew 0:42:53.400 --> 0:42:54.959 a little bit over there, because that's what you're gonna 0:42:55.000 --> 0:42:56.799 have to do in that backup you know, second or 0:42:56.800 --> 0:43:00.000 third team back, you're gonna have to participate on special teams. 0:43:00.160 --> 0:43:02.560 So who's gonna be able to go down there, cover kicks, 0:43:02.800 --> 0:43:05.520 cover punts, you know, do those types of things. Is 0:43:05.520 --> 0:43:07.399 what it's going to come down to. I didn't mention 0:43:07.520 --> 0:43:09.560 dus Won. Forgot to mention dus Won out there as well. 0:43:09.560 --> 0:43:12.160 He showed some some spark and then that Raiders game, 0:43:12.920 --> 0:43:15.080 elusive guy. He can be that kind of receiving back 0:43:15.080 --> 0:43:16.720 as well, maybe a returner as well. 0:43:16.800 --> 0:43:18.640 So it's gonna be a tough cutdown. 0:43:18.640 --> 0:43:20.319 But you know, to me, when it comes down to 0:43:20.600 --> 0:43:23.279 those guys, it's gonna be between Rico and the league 0:43:23.280 --> 0:43:24.360 because they're very similar. 0:43:24.440 --> 0:43:25.759 Then it comes down to me, is who's gonna be 0:43:25.760 --> 0:43:26.560 able to do more for the. 0:43:26.520 --> 0:43:30.040 Team running by I mean, just just in my time 0:43:30.080 --> 0:43:32.640 at camp, you know, I said my top three. 0:43:32.600 --> 0:43:37.640 Zeke, Duce, Juice, and Davis. Davis is his last name, right. 0:43:37.560 --> 0:43:42.839 Yeah, yeah, I like those three and again, yeah, like 0:43:42.880 --> 0:43:43.919 you said keep four or three. 0:43:43.960 --> 0:43:48.880 I don't think they're keeping four. So those are my. 0:43:48.920 --> 0:43:53.880 Top three, and I think I think, yeah, Zeke, like 0:43:53.880 --> 0:43:55.520 you said, you made, you made a lot of good points. 0:43:55.560 --> 0:43:55.680 You know. 0:43:55.800 --> 0:43:58.719 Zeke is uh is the guy that if you if 0:43:58.719 --> 0:44:00.520 you need that ball and that end zone, he's he's pick, 0:44:01.360 --> 0:44:04.600 He's a dog. And then I've been a Deuce fan. 0:44:05.080 --> 0:44:07.960 You know, I'm a huge fan of his dad to Chris, 0:44:08.000 --> 0:44:11.759 love Chris. But that's I'm not being biased. I think 0:44:11.880 --> 0:44:15.040 Deuce is is a great running back, and you know, 0:44:15.080 --> 0:44:16.520 I think he can he can hold his own. He's 0:44:16.520 --> 0:44:19.120 got heart, and then you know, I just I just 0:44:19.160 --> 0:44:21.239 feel the heart out of Davis as well. 0:44:21.440 --> 0:44:24.520 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm really instill in that vein where 0:44:24.600 --> 0:44:26.919 I'm looking to see who can be that home run hitter, 0:44:27.400 --> 0:44:29.399 who can be that home run guy, you know, who 0:44:29.440 --> 0:44:32.000 can be your guy to take that take it, take 0:44:32.000 --> 0:44:34.240 it to the outside, hit it, you know, your forty 0:44:34.280 --> 0:44:36.440 fifty yard game, something like that. I think that's what 0:44:36.520 --> 0:44:39.760 we were looking at before with Pollard and and Elliott 0:44:39.800 --> 0:44:43.080 being that thunder lightning or whatever, you know, one two 0:44:43.120 --> 0:44:45.920 punch and everybody and every team in the NFL kind 0:44:45.920 --> 0:44:47.920 of has that one two punch. Now that we got 0:44:48.040 --> 0:44:50.080 Zeke back, who's going to be the other guy? I mean, 0:44:50.120 --> 0:44:52.880 looking at duce Vun, I think offensively, you ask yourself, 0:44:52.920 --> 0:44:55.640 can he pick up the blitz things like that? Obviously 0:44:55.680 --> 0:44:58.040 he's gonna have to contribute on special teams as well, 0:44:58.080 --> 0:44:59.839 So it's going to be interesting coming down to the cuts. 0:45:00.080 --> 0:45:01.920 It's gonna be a lot of guys, a lot of 0:45:01.960 --> 0:45:05.640 great guys uh out there that you know that get cut. 0:45:05.680 --> 0:45:08.239 But I got to ask you this before we go. 0:45:09.000 --> 0:45:13.560 Does the ceedee Lamb contract thing bother you at all 0:45:13.719 --> 0:45:15.880 to this point? Are you saying, Look, they're gonna get 0:45:15.880 --> 0:45:17.800 this thing done here pretty soon and he's gonna be 0:45:17.840 --> 0:45:20.520 ready to go for the season. As a seasoned veteran, 0:45:20.560 --> 0:45:22.239 do you say, look, this guy needs to get here now, 0:45:22.560 --> 0:45:24.600 get you know, get this timing and everything down. 0:45:25.040 --> 0:45:27.839 You know, just just watching how the Zach Martin thing 0:45:27.880 --> 0:45:31.400 played out and just being a cowboy and seeing Jerry's 0:45:31.400 --> 0:45:36.400 Shenanigan's uh, you know, throughout my whole career, I'm not 0:45:36.480 --> 0:45:38.239 worried about it. You know, I can see how people 0:45:38.239 --> 0:45:40.040 could be worried about it, But I'm not worried about it. 0:45:40.080 --> 0:45:43.120 I know that one huge thing for Jerry is you 0:45:43.160 --> 0:45:47.040 know all media is good media. Yeah, and uh, you know, 0:45:47.120 --> 0:45:50.879 the even just the little the little shots thrown back 0:45:50.960 --> 0:45:53.480 and forth at each other is good for the Cowboys. 0:45:53.480 --> 0:45:56.399 And I don't I don't. I don't see I don't 0:45:56.440 --> 0:46:00.719 see any I don't see this going further than Game one. 0:46:00.840 --> 0:46:01.840 Obviously, it would. 0:46:01.680 --> 0:46:02.799 Be great for him to be a part of the 0:46:02.800 --> 0:46:06.720 team before that, but CD is one of those players 0:46:06.719 --> 0:46:09.280 that doesn't need to be you know, like, he's still 0:46:09.280 --> 0:46:12.719 gonna he's still gonna go for dumb numbers. You know 0:46:12.840 --> 0:46:18.280 that game one if if if he showed up on Friday, yeah, Thursday, Friday. 0:46:18.640 --> 0:46:24.080 But I don't want that to just get it done. 0:46:24.160 --> 0:46:28.600 I don't want the way it is. But you know, yeah, 0:46:28.640 --> 0:46:28.839 I don't. 0:46:28.840 --> 0:46:30.279 I don't want to see him go anywhere else to 0:46:30.320 --> 0:46:32.879 tell you that he's I feel like he's the best 0:46:32.880 --> 0:46:34.319 wide receiver in the game right now. 0:46:34.400 --> 0:46:37.279 So you see where you at on this man, If 0:46:37.280 --> 0:46:39.360 he took the button, have took the glass off the button? 0:46:39.400 --> 0:46:42.040 Yet he gotta get it done. I mean, I mean, 0:46:42.080 --> 0:46:44.759 this is this is a must. We talked about it. 0:46:44.960 --> 0:46:47.799 The passing offense is is CD lamb When you look 0:46:47.840 --> 0:46:50.200 at it. I mean, yeah, Ferguson is an upcoming you know, 0:46:50.239 --> 0:46:53.120 great tight end and you know he can he can do. 0:46:53.239 --> 0:46:55.719 He can be a mismatch nightmare for those linebackers and safeties. 0:46:56.239 --> 0:46:59.160 But when you talk about it all around threat and defenses, 0:46:59.280 --> 0:47:01.600 you got to put all all their resources towards stopping 0:47:01.640 --> 0:47:02.120 one guy. 0:47:03.000 --> 0:47:05.000 It's CD. And even when they do because we've seen 0:47:05.040 --> 0:47:07.000 it the past. Those are the last eight games. 0:47:07.239 --> 0:47:09.400 Each game was almost a buck fifty out there for him, 0:47:09.480 --> 0:47:11.880 and they double team, the triple team. They tried all 0:47:11.920 --> 0:47:14.880 they could that guy. He's one of the top in 0:47:15.000 --> 0:47:17.279 the game. And if you want a passing offense and 0:47:17.320 --> 0:47:19.840 you want your offense to be productive, you got to 0:47:19.840 --> 0:47:20.520 get the guy in there. 0:47:20.560 --> 0:47:22.880 Hey, we had we hadn't got an opportunity to see Cooks. 0:47:23.040 --> 0:47:25.879 But I can tell you this at looking at that fourth, 0:47:26.000 --> 0:47:29.759 fifth and sixth CD, you know, wide receiver out there 0:47:29.800 --> 0:47:36.319 for the preseason. Get it done, get it right now. 0:47:36.719 --> 0:47:39.560 Guys we talked about I didn't think we was gonna 0:47:39.560 --> 0:47:40.440 get through this whole thing. 0:47:42.520 --> 0:47:44.680 Man, the time was short. Man, looking back, man, we 0:47:44.719 --> 0:47:48.520 had a good time. So you was that close. 0:47:49.200 --> 0:47:52.279 We need showing that you are all the show. Need 0:47:55.040 --> 0:47:59.359 you can just get it there. We're gonna lie. All 0:47:59.400 --> 0:48:00.600 I need is one show with you. 0:48:00.680 --> 0:48:00.839 Dog. 0:48:00.840 --> 0:48:03.680 You're gonna be You're gonna be mar You gonna tell 0:48:03.800 --> 0:48:06.080 doll it might be back. 0:48:07.640 --> 0:48:10.879 They're gonna be running up on you in the Let's 0:48:10.960 --> 0:48:16.040 not have a glass with us, right. 0:48:17.640 --> 0:48:17.799 Man. 0:48:17.840 --> 0:48:21.560 This has been so much fun, Aristocrat, we're spoiling y'all. 0:48:21.640 --> 0:48:24.760 Right now, man, the Players Lounge will be back on Wednesday. 0:48:24.960 --> 0:48:25.080 Now. 0:48:25.120 --> 0:48:27.440 He will be right here. I'll be over there somewhere. 0:48:27.600 --> 0:48:32.640 BC will be want Tyrone Crawford, my man. Man appreciate 0:48:32.719 --> 0:48:35.440 brous Piggy's up. 0:48:35.480 --> 0:48:37.120 Baby. 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