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Speaker 2: HECKM Harrison, my man, Barry Church, former free safety for
Speaker 2: the Dallas Cowboys, And we have the.
Speaker 3: Pride of Windsor Yes, indeed, Tyrope.
Speaker 2: Yes it's here, Yeah, yes, sir, yes, sir man. Look,
Speaker 2: first of all, it is you never know a man
Speaker 2: until you do a show with a man. And I'm
Speaker 2: telling you I've been dying to meet you. I don't
Speaker 2: have nothing but respect for your game.
Speaker 3: Dog. But we go, we go dig in too some
Speaker 3: things to day.
Speaker 2: No stone will be left unturned, and we got we
Speaker 2: got some defensive lines, specially especially.
Speaker 4: That's what you want to hear about that We've been throwing.
Speaker 2: Our opinions out there but I know specially I already
Speaker 2: knew it was coming. Danni mc cray is on the
Speaker 2: sign of today new we shrugs. Let me drive the bus,
Speaker 2: and so that's what I'm gonna do. But man, when
Speaker 2: I get an opportunity to do a show, first thing
Speaker 2: I do is I check in with my brothers. Man,
Speaker 2: I want to know how your mind is before we
Speaker 2: start talking ball.
Speaker 3: How are you, Tyrone? Man?
Speaker 5: My mind is great. You know, I got a beautiful
Speaker 5: family around me. I'm super grateful. You know, God is good.
Speaker 5: He's put four girls, you know in my life, actually five,
Speaker 5: you know, my wife, my four daughters. Obviously I got
Speaker 5: my mom and but yeah, I mean we just been
Speaker 5: We've just been vibing out. We've had a good summer,
Speaker 5: you know, got the kids to experience a lot of
Speaker 5: different things. I got to go down to Idaho, visit
Speaker 5: the vander Rushes and uh.
Speaker 3: You know, do a little bit of lake time. There.
Speaker 5: Got to go out to camp go and watch the
Speaker 5: boys practice a little bit, and then go down to
Speaker 5: Santa Barbara, visit the Uncle Sean Lee.
Speaker 3: There we go.
Speaker 5: Yeah, in general, and uh yeah, man, in life, you know,
Speaker 5: I've just been chilling. Uh, me and my brother, you know,
Speaker 5: put together, you know, a couple of businesses, one of
Speaker 5: them being outdoor construction that we love. You know, it's
Speaker 5: called Crawford Signature Spaces and uh uh you know, other
Speaker 5: than that, I personally, I do a little bit of
Speaker 5: d line stuff, athletes stuff online and through YouTube, and
Speaker 5: that's about to be released here soon too. And you
Speaker 5: know it's it's my same brand, the work brand.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 7: Just work extra hard, get a little bit of extra working, dude.
Speaker 2: That's awesome. Man, I'm glad to hear that, man, Glad
Speaker 2: to hear you doing good. Four girls. I have three,
Speaker 2: so I'm gonna pray for you. You pray for me.
Speaker 3: A lot of girls. Exactly how you do it? Brother? Man?
Speaker 4: Like all he's doing amazing. Man, you know, caught my
Speaker 4: blessings every time it's hot. It's real hot down here Dallas,
Speaker 4: but I'm kind of used to it nowadays. Family doing great.
Speaker 4: Little one, you know, he's battling a little bit of
Speaker 4: a headache, so he had to stay home from school
Speaker 4: a little bit, so I've got daddy daycare for a
Speaker 4: little bit before I came out here. But other than that, man,
Speaker 4: things are doing amazing. Wife's business is crushing it as usual.
Speaker 4: So yeah, life's pretty good. Man, can't complain, Man, I
Speaker 4: love to hear it. Man, glad to be in the
Speaker 4: room with you.
Speaker 3: Brothers. Man, how you doing?
Speaker 2: We didn't even through we got throw How you doing?
Speaker 2: They dog every time the light turned green? And to
Speaker 2: open that door down there, I date somebody punking men
Speaker 2: that's talking about all the football. Man, all good in
Speaker 2: my world, man, trust me, it's all good.
Speaker 3: BC.
Speaker 2: Man, everything is everything is wonderful. Man, I'm straight, but guys,
Speaker 2: I know y'all got an opportunity to watch the game
Speaker 2: on Saturday, Cowboys take on the Las Vegas Raiders and
Speaker 2: pulled out a victory, uh for the first preseason victory.
Speaker 2: And man, there's a lot of things to take apart
Speaker 2: in that game. And what I want to do is
Speaker 2: just kind of segmented and make sure that we get
Speaker 2: into the players that we knew coming into that game
Speaker 2: needed to have a pretty good showing. And so expectation wise,
Speaker 2: what you thought, or you know, who were some guys
Speaker 2: that you went in saying, look, this guy has to
Speaker 2: have a game.
Speaker 3: He fulfilled that.
Speaker 2: Who are some guys that you were looking at in
Speaker 2: Tyrone I saw with you.
Speaker 5: Well, I mean, you know, personally, when when I'm watching
Speaker 5: the game, I can't take my eyes off the D line, yep.
Speaker 5: So you know, for me, it's hard for me to
Speaker 5: you know, give you offensive perspectives and my opinion on
Speaker 5: a lot of different offensive guys.
Speaker 3: Although I did watch, uh.
Speaker 5: You know, I had my eye on Max Crosby a
Speaker 5: little bit and I got to watch Tyler go up
Speaker 5: against Max, So I mean, I feel like you did
Speaker 5: a great job, and you know, I was, uh, you know,
Speaker 5: I was. I thought I thought his performance as well,
Speaker 5: but you know, going on to the defense, you know,
Speaker 5: and again I don't want to. Yeah, I'm not the
Speaker 5: guy like this is why I don't think I could
Speaker 5: do TV or anything like that, because I'm not the data,
Speaker 5: you know, try and crush a man for you know,
Speaker 5: how he played football. But you know, I feel like
Speaker 5: the D line, you know, did a good job. But
Speaker 5: you know, I feel like, obviously there's room for improvement,
Speaker 5: and one of the biggest things in improvement as a
Speaker 5: D linman is just doing your job. If everybody does
Speaker 5: their jobs, as Church knows when we were playing, you know,
Speaker 5: if everybody does their job, everybody has an assignment. If
Speaker 5: you do that job, you leave the game with an
Speaker 5: a like we most of the time, you know, you
Speaker 5: control your assignment, then things will go well. And you know,
Speaker 5: if if something goes wrong then but you controlled your assignment,
Speaker 5: everyone was right on their assignment, then you know, then
Speaker 5: you can put another de coordinator, which it should be anyways, right,
Speaker 5: So yeah, I mean, I mean again, I think the
Speaker 5: D line did good, secondary linebackers did good. But again,
Speaker 5: you know it's it's bad coming from me because I'm
Speaker 5: not the guy that wants to stow any negativity any
Speaker 5: any any players, but especially when they're trying to make
Speaker 5: a team. And you know, this is huge, man, this
Speaker 5: is huge for people's families, lives. You know, changed my
Speaker 5: life completely, So I don't want to I don't want
Speaker 5: to crush anybody to earthly.
Speaker 2: Maybe later out of the season I'll talk about Tyrone.
Speaker 3: Listen, you're on the players lounge.
Speaker 7: I hear that.
Speaker 3: And one thing we do on the lounge we keep
Speaker 3: it real. So well we do.
Speaker 2: We're not gonna hate, We're not gonna bake them completely,
Speaker 2: but it will be a waft of smell.
Speaker 3: Well listen, well, listen, I'll do this.
Speaker 5: If I have to agree with something, I'll agree with it.
Speaker 5: You know, I won't be the I won't be the
Speaker 5: flame throw Let me ask you.
Speaker 2: All right, let me let me let me ask you
Speaker 2: this specifically before I go to you. A guy like
Speaker 2: Chauncey Golston who mimics some of the things that you did.
Speaker 2: You were a guy that went from D tackle the
Speaker 2: d N and so he's a twinner and that's he's
Speaker 2: gonna be a guy that we depend on for sure
Speaker 2: this season. What did you think about him in that preseason?
Speaker 5: Okay, so I'm not I've always been. I've been I'm
Speaker 5: a Ghoston fan. So I mean, you know, obviously playing
Speaker 5: D line if you know, a lot of people want
Speaker 5: to see the flash and you know, the glam, the
Speaker 5: glam plays and all that stuff. I'm okay with seeing
Speaker 5: somebody do their job. Like I said, if somebody does
Speaker 5: their job, they do it well, and they make it
Speaker 5: easier for the linebacker, and they make it easier for
Speaker 5: the safeties. You know, I think I think that's that's important,
Speaker 5: you know. So you know that's where I'm gonna leave that.
Speaker 5: But you know, I've always been a fan of I've
Speaker 5: always been a fan of him, and please don't don't
Speaker 5: take this the wrong way, but please mention the number, uh,
Speaker 5: the number of the player, because I'd be forgetting these dudes.
Speaker 3: Right, don't even worry about.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I forget these dudes days. So like, if
Speaker 2: you give me the number, like I, I do like
Speaker 2: the way ninety eight played. You know, I don't know
Speaker 2: his name, but I like the way or ninety three,
Speaker 2: but yeah, I mean I like, I like the way
Speaker 2: some of these guys played. You know, when I when
Speaker 2: I when I, when you tell me the number, I'll
Speaker 2: be like, oh, yeah, okay, I remember, I remember some.
Speaker 3: Of the places play.
Speaker 4: But yeah, so just throwing off, just keeping it real.
Speaker 4: But that's why I loved going to war with a
Speaker 4: guy like Crawford. That's why I loved him being in
Speaker 4: those trenches because he wasn't about you know, hero ball
Speaker 4: and trying to make every single play out there. It
Speaker 4: was do your job and your gap, your responsibility. If
Speaker 4: the play comes your way, you're gonna make it. And
Speaker 4: he made, you know, my job at safety a hell
Speaker 4: of a lot easier. So that's what when I look
Speaker 4: at this defensive line, when I looked at them. You know,
Speaker 4: this past game they played, to me, in my opinion,
Speaker 4: a lot better than they played in that first game.
Speaker 4: We did see a little bit of leaks here and
Speaker 4: there from the rank game, but you know that that's
Speaker 4: gonna happen. That's gonna happen. We see that's gonna happen.
Speaker 4: But from what I saw out there, those guys, at
Speaker 4: least at the point of attack, I thought that they
Speaker 4: played a lot better. They were able to put some
Speaker 4: push back there, and they were going against ones. It
Speaker 4: ain't like, you know, it was our starting defense versus there.
Speaker 4: It was you know, the backups for the Dallas Cowboys
Speaker 4: didn't have d Law out there.
Speaker 3: He didn't have Parsons.
Speaker 4: You didn't have you know, old said Diggy jut out
Speaker 4: there against you know, the ones for the Los Angeles.
Speaker 4: They had been to you out there, they had that
Speaker 4: you're white running the ball out there, and those guys
Speaker 4: were able to hold their own. I believe they held
Speaker 4: them the what was it, six six sixth points out there.
Speaker 4: They were able to hold.
Speaker 3: Those guys out of the end zone, which was huge.
Speaker 4: But the thing I looked at most from that that
Speaker 4: defensive perspective, at least what I saw early on was
Speaker 4: those linebackers once again were able to fly sideline the sideline,
Speaker 4: and that's what we've been missing from this. I don't
Speaker 4: want to defensive line dep whatever the case may be,
Speaker 4: those offsive linemen from the other teams getting up to
Speaker 4: the second level, getting these guys off of their mark
Speaker 4: and not being able to get downhill. The d line,
Speaker 4: in my opinion, did a good job of holding those
Speaker 4: guys up at the point of attack during their responsibility.
Speaker 3: And you saw all guys.
Speaker 4: I don't want to butcher lad his name, I want
Speaker 4: to say, Maurice la the rookie from the rookie from
Speaker 4: Notre Dame line back at number thirty five, that dude
Speaker 4: is he looks like a missile out there, young rookie
Speaker 4: from Notre Dame. He's coming downhill. You saw him all
Speaker 4: over the place. You know, he popped off the tape
Speaker 4: all over the place. Of course, you love to see
Speaker 4: what you saw from Marquis Bell coming downhill as well.
Speaker 3: But to me, those.
Speaker 4: Linebackers, this is the second week in the rower they
Speaker 4: look they look pretty good. We talk about coming downhill,
Speaker 4: defending the run, and it's like I said before, this
Speaker 4: was against the Ones. Yeah, So to me, I feel
Speaker 4: like overall offensive defensive league will tap into the offense
Speaker 4: a little bit later, but overall, I feel like from
Speaker 4: what I've seen in this performance, at least, it was
Speaker 4: a tad bit of bit of hope I'm coming in.
Speaker 3: You know what I mean.
Speaker 4: I told you hope you're narcotic. But there's a tad
Speaker 4: bit of that coming in. And you know, I like
Speaker 4: what I've seen so far. I like what I've seen
Speaker 4: so far.
Speaker 2: So Tyren, we have we talked about a lot of
Speaker 2: these defensive linemen. In one of the comps that I've
Speaker 2: gotten from Barry Church about our rookie marsha On Neeland
Speaker 2: was Tyrone Crawford. And when he said that, I was like,
Speaker 2: wait a minute, I praise we starting to come on, man,
Speaker 2: he's jumping out the gate and so a guy like that,
Speaker 2: I mean, especially with this defensive line, with the woes
Speaker 2: that they had last season, what are some of the
Speaker 2: things for you, Like you're looking at and saying that
Speaker 2: this year's team has to be better at this and
Speaker 2: if they do have success, it's going to be because
Speaker 2: of X.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, again, like last year at the
Speaker 5: end of the year. You know, anybody you talk to,
Speaker 5: they blame the game on the offense and you know
Speaker 5: one guy in particular, which you cannot do. This game
Speaker 5: is not about that. It's there's eleven people on the
Speaker 5: field you know for a reason. And you know, I
Speaker 5: mean on on the defensive side of things. Again, it
Speaker 5: comes back to, you know, the assignments man if and
Speaker 5: and what Berry's saying, like, the linebackers have to be
Speaker 5: able to move. The linebackers have to those are the
Speaker 5: play those are the playmakers. And you kind of have
Speaker 5: to humble yourself as a d lineman at times to
Speaker 5: let them to let that be the way the game
Speaker 5: is played. If you, I mean, if you want to
Speaker 5: win the game from the defensive side of things, it
Speaker 5: has to you have to be you know, poison your
Speaker 5: position and letting the linebackers be able to do their job,
Speaker 5: safeties be able to do their job come downhill. So yeah,
Speaker 5: going back to last year's game, you know, you know,
Speaker 5: I personally, if I was on that team, I would
Speaker 5: have held us as the defense very highly responsible for
Speaker 5: that loss because of that in particular thing, people weren't
Speaker 5: taking care of their their responsibility alignment asim key technique.
Speaker 3: It's the thing.
Speaker 5: And and if that's taken care of, there shouldn't be
Speaker 5: no explosive plays. I mean, you're gonna get the odd
Speaker 5: exposive places, but there shouldn't be as many explosive plays happening.
Speaker 5: And explosive plays is what is what kills you on
Speaker 5: the defensive side of things. And personally, you know, when
Speaker 5: I seen Green Bay come in here, which I yeah, yeah,
Speaker 5: so yeah, well the gunslinger a rod got me a bunch.
Speaker 5: But yeah, you know when I see that, I just
Speaker 5: you know, that's the thing that makes me cringees.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 5: Of course the fans want to see the plays, the
Speaker 5: huge plays on defense, the sacks, sacked strips and all that.
Speaker 5: Those are great, Please have those happen. But what needs
Speaker 5: to be handled is the alignment assignment key technique, you know,
Speaker 5: like that has to be handled. And like Marion Nella
Speaker 5: you saw say, which is you know, I'll resort back
Speaker 5: to Marinelli a lot because you know, he's one of
Speaker 5: my favorite coaches, favorite you know, coordinators. And the star
Speaker 5: of the defense is the defense. You know, there's no star,
Speaker 5: there's no one person. There shouldn't be one person, you know,
Speaker 5: there's going to be as there is on this team.
Speaker 5: But you know, the star of the defense is the defense,
Speaker 5: and if that's the way you guys play the game,
Speaker 5: then the defense should handle enough to win the game
Speaker 5: every time.
Speaker 3: So how how hard is it?
Speaker 4: Because it is you know, it's easy for me to
Speaker 4: sit here and say, he got to hold his point
Speaker 4: of attack. He got to be able to sit there
Speaker 4: with you know, double teams and be able to get
Speaker 4: you played the position you played on the inside and
Speaker 4: outside you played at extremely high level. How hard is
Speaker 4: it for that, you know, one tech, three tech, whatever
Speaker 4: the case may be, to hold it there and hold
Speaker 4: that gap position when you got guys, you know, big
Speaker 4: three hundred pounds barreling down on you from either side.
Speaker 4: Because I look at it and I asked you the
Speaker 4: question because last year's you know, first round of Minze Smith,
Speaker 4: you know he had some struggles, you know, staying in
Speaker 4: that gap, and you know.
Speaker 3: It's easy for us to come up here and say, man,
Speaker 3: you gotta stay there. You gotta How hard is.
Speaker 4: It doing on that defensive line to be able to
Speaker 4: maintain that gap presence, to be able to allow your
Speaker 4: linebackers to go sideline ail.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and it's hard, you know obviously, I mean what Kenya,
Speaker 5: you say it's a man's yeah, yeah, yeah, but yeah,
Speaker 5: so I mean down there, it's hard, man. But you know,
Speaker 5: there's a lot of factors that come into play, you know,
Speaker 5: and again a lot of the linebackers have a lot
Speaker 5: of responsibility there as well. You know, if if the
Speaker 5: offensive lineman doesn't coming down as hard, it's because they
Speaker 5: were worried about what that linebacker was about to do. Right,
Speaker 5: So you know, if the linebacker gives a little bit
Speaker 5: better disguise and you know, you know, you guys are
Speaker 5: touching on that in film, you know, that could help.
Speaker 5: But also you know, wait, you know the weight of
Speaker 5: a player, and then maybe uh you know, like for instance,
Speaker 5: I'm gonna put my I'm gonna put myself out there.
Speaker 3: You know. I went from Marinelli where I was off
Speaker 3: the ball, I'm off, I'm off, I'm off. So I'm
Speaker 3: used to that.
Speaker 2: I'm used to get into a spot, and I'm used
Speaker 2: to blowing up the I'm used to blowing up the
Speaker 2: cap to going to Nolan's defense where I was stepping.
Speaker 3: I went from stepping forward to stepping sideways, which I.
Speaker 2: Did not you're getting you're getting hit. Don't go ahead,
Speaker 2: don't okay, let me ask you what I'm saying. I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: you can ask me that.
Speaker 5: But like for what I'm saying for certain players is
Speaker 5: maybe the maybe they're still getting used to the technique
Speaker 5: that needs to be played in that certain defense, you know.
Speaker 5: And and I don't know, I don't know it in
Speaker 5: this case. But what I'm saying is, maybe they are
Speaker 5: getting used to that. Uh, if they're if they're getting
Speaker 5: out of gas, maybe they're telling them to hold onto
Speaker 5: the guard, you know. And like he's like, what do
Speaker 5: you mean hold on to the guard? I'm used to
Speaker 5: blasting his head back, you know. Like That's what I'm
Speaker 5: used to, and that's what I was always used to,
Speaker 5: is getting that.
Speaker 3: You know, I was disruption. I was a disruption player,
Speaker 3: you know.
Speaker 2: I wasn't used to I wasn't used to holding somebody.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, but you could go, no, we're getting
Speaker 2: passionate I.
Speaker 3: What we do.
Speaker 2: My my question to you is, being a former player
Speaker 2: and a guy that took so much pride in your
Speaker 2: job and your alignment, assignment and just stopping the run,
Speaker 2: is it surprising to you the last couple of years,
Speaker 2: even with Dan Quinn, uh that the Cowboys just haven't
Speaker 2: been able to solve that problem in stopping the run.
Speaker 5: You know, I love DQ and I loved him as
Speaker 5: a as a coordinator. You know, yeah, it's been surprising
Speaker 5: for sure. But you know a lot of that falls
Speaker 5: on I guess. I guess yeah, as an as as
Speaker 5: an Induri or d lineman. You know, you gotta take
Speaker 5: responsibility for a lot of that, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: And you know that's what I you know, that's what
Speaker 5: we did when we played and you know, when when
Speaker 5: I knew that, hey, I got to do my job better.
Speaker 5: You know that, you know, the responsibility falls on us.
Speaker 5: And yeah, I'm you know, I'm the interior D line.
Speaker 5: I guess we haven't been able to, you know, put
Speaker 5: the puzzle in order, put the puzzle like correctly right now.
Speaker 5: You know, I feel like that that's that's near and
Speaker 5: you know, but you know, obviously playing nose is not easy.
Speaker 5: You know, there's like Nick Hayden played nose the best
Speaker 5: that I've been around. And he will golden cock doodle.
Speaker 3: So wow, yea his name. Wow. He literally had a
Speaker 3: golden rooster on his shirt. That I love everybody. It
Speaker 3: was awesome.
Speaker 5: But yeah, I mean, like there's just you know, four
Speaker 5: equals one on the D line and that again, you know,
Speaker 5: like to be able to play a double team the
Speaker 5: way you know, some defensive coordinators want you to play.
Speaker 5: It's it's just more difficult. But it takes. It takes everybody.
Speaker 5: You know, if that's the way you need to play it,
Speaker 5: then everybody needs to be playing it the same you know.
Speaker 5: So yeah, I mean everybody just needs to be on
Speaker 5: the same page. And I think I I truly think
Speaker 5: that they did do a really good job at stopping
Speaker 5: the run for a long time last year. It's just
Speaker 5: there's there's breakout games where everybody is like damn, like
Speaker 5: and stop.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like those games, they're like, ah.
Speaker 5: Man, they didn't really they did bad, And those games
Speaker 5: stick out to you more than the games.
Speaker 2: Really they did good st games, but they did they did.
Speaker 2: Oh guys, man, we are rolling along. We gonna take
Speaker 2: a first break. But he's already teased what our second
Speaker 2: segment is about. Man, this man seeing a bunch of
Speaker 2: defensive coordinators. So we got some questions about the transfer
Speaker 2: of power in the defensive room. I got my man,
Speaker 2: Tyrone Crawford in the building, Barry churches here on mc maherson.
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Speaker 2: The second segment is the best segment because we get
Speaker 2: to pick more brains over here.
Speaker 3: Tyron Crawford is in the building.
Speaker 2: My man BC is up in here, and man, nobody
Speaker 2: nobody's seen more turnover as far as the defensive coordinator
Speaker 2: room than you. I mean, you've seen quite a few
Speaker 2: guys come in and out. And what has that transition
Speaker 2: been like as a player to lose one defensive coordinator
Speaker 2: that you may be attached to. I know, you you
Speaker 2: talk fundly of Marinelli and what that may have been
Speaker 2: like going to the next administration or the next defensive coordinator.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you know, coming in it was was
Speaker 3: quite easy.
Speaker 5: You know, I came in and we played under Rob
Speaker 5: Bryant's defense, and you know, I was I needed to
Speaker 5: gain a lot of weight. I got up to like
Speaker 5: three hundred pounds, and you know, it was like, I
Speaker 5: guess that's really the difficult, difficult, you know side of
Speaker 5: things is the different way they want you to play
Speaker 5: D line and different way you need to play D
Speaker 5: line in order. Like I said, if if, if you're
Speaker 5: not doing it the same as everybody else and you're
Speaker 5: trying to do your own thing, it's just not gonna work.
Speaker 5: You're gonna have a lot of explosive plays and that's
Speaker 5: not good for ball. So you know, Rob Ryan I
Speaker 5: was two gapping, you know, and which was good for
Speaker 5: me at that time, and that's what I love to do.
Speaker 5: But then you know Kiff came in. R I p Yeah, yeah, kid,
Speaker 5: And Kiff came in and and and that was a
Speaker 5: great transition because Marinelli was the D line coach and
Speaker 5: it was again off the ball, off the ball, and
Speaker 5: then speed speed was our thing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, went from a three four to four three four.
Speaker 5: Three yeah, and and so yeah, and so Kiff was
Speaker 5: the coordinator, but you know, Marinelli was you know, I
Speaker 5: don't know, like they were both kind of running the
Speaker 5: ship right, so it was it was it was Kiff,
Speaker 5: but it was really Marinelli, you know, holding it down
Speaker 5: for those entire pretty much my entire career, almost my
Speaker 5: entire career, which was which was great because you know,
Speaker 5: I love the way our defense was played, and it
Speaker 5: was played the same every time. You know, the point was, hey,
Speaker 5: you could know what we're doing, but you got to
Speaker 5: stop it. You know what I'm saying, like we're gonna
Speaker 5: get off the ball and you got to stop it.
Speaker 3: And the lad.
Speaker 4: In your gaps and they were like, you ain't your gap.
Speaker 4: This is what this is why we had an explosive play.
Speaker 5: It was like blaming on you because that's why exactly
Speaker 5: what it was. But then yeah, going uh when when
Speaker 5: Marinelli left and went to the Raiders and then we
Speaker 5: had Nolan come in, and then you know, it was
Speaker 5: completely different technique for me. So again, you know, they
Speaker 5: tried to play me inside, wasn't I would have I
Speaker 5: would have preferred outside in that in that defense just
Speaker 5: because it just wasn't meant for me. I was, you
Speaker 5: know at that time one hundred or two hundred and
Speaker 5: eighty poundy lineman.
Speaker 3: I wasn't I wasn't able.
Speaker 2: I wasn't able to about a hundred something found you
Speaker 2: ain't probably waiting, I wrote, there we ball right, No,
Speaker 2: but yeah, so yeah, just the just the difference in
Speaker 2: uh in decoordinators is the difference in the way uh
Speaker 2: you know, you play your gaps the way your assignment's played.
Speaker 2: And you know that's where I struggled when Nolan came in.
Speaker 2: You know, I struggled to hold the gaps and to
Speaker 2: play the double teams. They wanted me to play the
Speaker 2: double teams. I was used to blowing up the double
Speaker 2: team and you know, getting there first before, you know,
Speaker 2: letting them get to me is weird, and I wasn't
Speaker 2: a fan of it.
Speaker 5: Tried my best to do it. I'm again, I'm not
Speaker 5: the type of guy that's gonna, you know, of a
Speaker 5: from the from the team the way we're supposed to
Speaker 5: be doing things. I'm gonna try my best to get
Speaker 5: to get it done the way it's supposed to be.
Speaker 10: Uh.
Speaker 5: But that's kind of new, that's kind of you know,
Speaker 5: you know, a little percentage of the reason why you
Speaker 5: know I knew it was it was getting close to
Speaker 5: the time that I need to be done the game.
Speaker 5: But yeah, so yeah, I mean it was definitely a
Speaker 5: blessing to be able to, you know, have all those
Speaker 5: coordinators in my career and meet different men, uh that
Speaker 5: love the game of football. But yeah, I mean Marionelli's
Speaker 5: defense was obviously my favorite. And and again like even
Speaker 5: in Zimmers or last year, like like I'll say this
Speaker 5: right now, to have a great say like if they
Speaker 5: had a Barry Church, you know.
Speaker 3: Like like a bear.
Speaker 5: Like safety like this, the safeties and strong safeties they're
Speaker 5: like so like important in those defenses. And like you
Speaker 5: know we had the Blues Brothers. We were just talking
Speaker 5: about that allet but you know, hitters, downhill players, fast
Speaker 5: players and just just ball guys.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what they wanted. Barry. How does that? How
Speaker 3: does that impact you?
Speaker 2: Because obviously the front half impacts the back half also
Speaker 2: you've been through that transition as well. Going from dan Quinn,
Speaker 2: we think about three safeties you know, now going to
Speaker 2: the two safety look man or our zone look now
Speaker 2: with the with the no zone, look now with versusly
Speaker 2: versus what dan Quinn would do and man, how much
Speaker 2: of a transition would that be for the secondary guys?
Speaker 2: Also to make an adjustment.
Speaker 4: It's a huge adjustment, just like Crawford was talking about
Speaker 4: with the D line, and when you look at it,
Speaker 4: you know, like Knew, he always says, Warren sav says,
Speaker 4: you know, the back don't work without the front, and
Speaker 4: that's one hundred percent true. The more you can get
Speaker 4: on that quarterback, you more can stop the run and
Speaker 4: make that team one dimensional easier.
Speaker 3: It makes our job in the back end.
Speaker 4: But when you switch up coordinators like that, and I'll
Speaker 4: go back, you know to our example early on in
Speaker 4: your career when we had Rex, Ryan was here and
Speaker 4: you know we got Mo Claiborne, who was a corner
Speaker 4: in the secondary and you know, he was a man
Speaker 4: guy LSU four perward winner because he was able to
Speaker 4: lock people down and just play man to man and
Speaker 4: that and that was it.
Speaker 3: That was what his job was.
Speaker 4: So in Rex's system, you know, he was a man
Speaker 4: guy and he was able to flourish. And then we
Speaker 4: transitioned to Marinelli system, which was you know, more of
Speaker 4: a four to three. You know, we played you know,
Speaker 4: some man here and there, but we were more like
Speaker 4: a fire zone type of thing, getting after the quarterback
Speaker 4: and having eyes on a quarterback as a secondary.
Speaker 3: Now for me, I loved it because I was able.
Speaker 4: To just kind of float around and do my poll
Speaker 4: of mylu thing where I'm just kind of like, all right,
Speaker 4: I'm gonna help over here, I'm gonna help over there.
Speaker 3: I made blitz here and there. So I loved it.
Speaker 4: But when you got guys like a you know, a
Speaker 4: Clayborne or a car on the outside of that used
Speaker 4: to just man and man, I need to lock this
Speaker 4: dude down and play zone and kind of communicating more
Speaker 4: with the secondary, it makes things a little bit tough.
Speaker 4: So when you bring up those points about the d line,
Speaker 4: you know how they play double teams. I didn't even
Speaker 4: really think about it that way. I'm thinking, oh, yeah,
Speaker 4: this guy needs to be able to hold it down.
Speaker 4: But there's true because when you you know, you're used
Speaker 4: to penetrating and and blowing things up, and you come
Speaker 4: to a system where, oh man, I got to hold
Speaker 4: it down right.
Speaker 3: Here instead, it's a whole lot different.
Speaker 4: And I didn't even think about it through that lens
Speaker 4: that it can turn things around. So that's why you know,
Speaker 4: we brought up that question, you know, switching decordinators because
Speaker 4: this team obviously went from Quinn and now to the
Speaker 4: Zimmer and Quinn was a predominantly man kind of exotic
Speaker 4: multiple defense blitzing from here and there, and then you
Speaker 4: got Zim who's kind of kind of similar to Marinelli,
Speaker 4: which is, look, we're gonna line up in this.
Speaker 3: We're gonna have variations off of it.
Speaker 4: You know, we may look the same, we may blitz
Speaker 4: from that same look, but it's predominantly gonna be like,
Speaker 4: this is what we're in.
Speaker 3: We'll see what you can do.
Speaker 4: So the player is definitely gonna have to transition, but
Speaker 4: you know that's why you know, they're professionals, and he
Speaker 4: should be able to go out there and get the
Speaker 4: job done and we'll see what they can do.
Speaker 3: This show how.
Speaker 2: Refreshing is it as players to see like this defense
Speaker 2: is still kind of in that vein of forcing those turnovers.
Speaker 2: They got to pick six in this game as well.
Speaker 2: But you guys know, you know, if you live by that,
Speaker 2: you die by that? Is that something also? Obviously you
Speaker 2: see that transition carry over to this this team. Is
Speaker 2: that something positive for you? You saying, look, I just want
Speaker 2: to see y'all start to run. All that other stuff
Speaker 2: is gonna come later.
Speaker 4: You know, I love it because, like you said, when
Speaker 4: you when you're talking defense, ball guys or where it's at.
Speaker 4: And if you got guys that can get after the
Speaker 4: football and take the ball away and any means necessary,
Speaker 4: then you're gonna have success in that defense. So we
Speaker 4: got ball you like, look at Digs Diggs. I don't
Speaker 4: think it matters what system he's in. He's gonna get
Speaker 4: after the football. Same with Bland. He's proven these first
Speaker 4: two years that no matter what system, zone man, he's
Speaker 4: gonna find a way to get the ball and take
Speaker 4: it back the other way. And then you got guys
Speaker 4: like you know d Law who you know, he may
Speaker 4: not have those same sack numbers that he had years ago, but.
Speaker 3: We talked about it last year.
Speaker 4: He probably the best run defender that we've seen on
Speaker 4: this defensive line.
Speaker 3: I mean that guy plays at an extremely high level.
Speaker 4: And of course you got the big Mazukah Parsons out
Speaker 4: there being able to do what he does. So they have,
Speaker 4: in my opinion, enough ball guys throughout that defense to
Speaker 4: where they can make some noise. They could definitely make
Speaker 4: some noise, but it all comes back to me, you
Speaker 4: gotta be able to stop the run, because if you
Speaker 4: can make that team one dimensional, then I mean the
Speaker 4: rest is history after that.
Speaker 2: So guys, I gotta you know, I believe. Over the weekend,
Speaker 2: Jerry did an interview where he was talking about the
Speaker 2: team still being active in acquisitions and free agency and
Speaker 2: they're combing all of the rosters in the NFL. But
Speaker 2: history has shown us that when it comes down to
Speaker 2: signing a free agent, we're gonna get the guy that
Speaker 2: is you know, long in the tooth, tenured. You know,
Speaker 2: it's not gonna be one of those splash pickups or anything.
Speaker 2: Do you see that this team, this is the way
Speaker 2: that things are rounding off right now? Do you think
Speaker 2: that the Boys, even with having a sign CD even
Speaker 2: to sign back signed Micah, seeing them make a splash
Speaker 2: in free agency on this to help this d line
Speaker 2: before the season starts.
Speaker 3: Do I see that happening taking the church?
Speaker 4: I could be honest, I don't see it happening. You know,
Speaker 4: it's been a string. I think the last we talked
Speaker 4: about the last big time free agent signing, like like
Speaker 4: splash top of the market guy was you know, you know,
Speaker 4: maybe b Car you know when we played and you
Speaker 4: know we talked about it, just it's just not in
Speaker 4: I don't know if it's their formula or however. They
Speaker 4: you know, want to break things down, but you know
Speaker 4: they rely on getting the free agency free agent guys
Speaker 4: that you know, maybe your towards the you know, the
Speaker 4: bottom half and you know, get long in the tooth
Speaker 4: ten years, eleven years, and you know that that has
Speaker 4: worked on some occasions. But when you look at it,
Speaker 4: the season is so much longer now almost you know,
Speaker 4: eighteen seventeen, eighteen games. You know, it's hard to put
Speaker 4: you know, X amount of plays on a guy in
Speaker 4: year eleven.
Speaker 3: You know, it's tough. It is real tough.
Speaker 4: And that's just something I you know, I really didn't
Speaker 4: understand when it came to you know, the Cowboys as
Speaker 4: far as you know, going out there and acquiring new
Speaker 4: players on the team is and you know, and it
Speaker 4: ain't guaranteed to work. If you go out there and
Speaker 4: get a prime guy, it's not guaranteed to work. But
Speaker 4: you know, I just feel like maybe just to take
Speaker 4: a shot at it every now and then, to take
Speaker 4: a shot. But it's easy for me to sit here
Speaker 4: and say that, you know, I ain't on the field
Speaker 4: no more.
Speaker 3: That's easy for me to sit there and say that.
Speaker 4: So you know what Jerry always says, you know, he
Speaker 4: likes his guys and he likes to you know, groom
Speaker 4: them from when they draft him and pay those type
Speaker 4: of guys, which I understand as well. But you know,
Speaker 4: sometimes you may need to go out there and get
Speaker 4: you a prime guy to take you over the hump.
Speaker 3: You know, I don't know how you feel about that.
Speaker 3: I really appreciate it about that about Jerry by the way, you.
Speaker 6: Know, like around.
Speaker 11: But philosophy as like that, stay with your God, No,
Speaker 11: but I do.
Speaker 5: I do think, yeah, like you know, if they're if
Speaker 5: there's the person that you know you can't pass on, yes,
Speaker 5: take that shot, you know what I'm saying. But like,
Speaker 5: I don't see anybody out there right now that they
Speaker 5: can go and grab the D line. I love Osa,
Speaker 5: you know, I love what OSA can do. He's not
Speaker 5: in there, you know, like he's dealing with some things
Speaker 5: right now. So you know, he's not in there right now,
Speaker 5: you know, And I think, you know, with a little
Speaker 5: bit of help and a little bit of I guess
Speaker 5: like understanding of you know, what this defense of interior
Speaker 5: line needs I think it's just going to grow on
Speaker 5: these guys and just they're just gonna get better and
Speaker 5: better inside.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 5: But it kind of it's just it needs to happen,
Speaker 5: a lot of people want to see it right now.
Speaker 5: You know, a lot of a lot of people want
Speaker 5: to see you know, you know, that improvement right now,
Speaker 5: and you know, hopefully it does happen sooner than later.
Speaker 5: But you know, I don't feel like, you know, there's
Speaker 5: anybody out there that that can go and you know,
Speaker 5: fix the problem. The problem is to me, it's easily fixed.
Speaker 2: You know, we will tell us please, I mean, which
Speaker 2: hanging on every word?
Speaker 3: What what you got to say? Oh man, well it's
Speaker 3: not it's not.
Speaker 5: I'm not saying it's an easy fix, but it literally
Speaker 5: is just just do your job in that moment. Just
Speaker 5: do your job or that moment. And there's ways, so
Speaker 5: say we were talking about people getting kicked out of
Speaker 5: their gap, there's ways to stop that from happening, you
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, bring it, like make the linebacker
Speaker 5: do something to stop that from happening. You know, like
Speaker 5: there's ways to you know, improve on those on those
Speaker 5: you know, areas where it's a little bit flawed right now.
Speaker 5: And I think, you know, yeah, please go go and
Speaker 5: get the splash guy if you can go and get him.
Speaker 5: And I don't know any if you know a name,
Speaker 5: throw it out there, but like, I don't know any name.
Speaker 5: I can't think of anybody that can just go and
Speaker 5: get at easy or I mean.
Speaker 3: Point at this point.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, it would have been great in the
Speaker 5: off season. But again, you know, the guys that we have,
Speaker 5: I think they can handle the job. I'm you know,
Speaker 5: and that's keeping it real, taking ahead of the job.
Speaker 5: I just think, you know, it just needs to be.
Speaker 5: This defense needs to just they just need to feed
Speaker 5: on it and just get better at it and and
Speaker 5: and and live it and and just just you don't
Speaker 5: have to be all fancy. Just get in there and
Speaker 5: hold that gap. Hold that gap so a linebacker can
Speaker 5: make the play here here and then the nose hold
Speaker 5: that gap, you know what I mean, Like, I mean,
Speaker 5: it's it's.
Speaker 3: When you're thinking about it, it's not that hard.
Speaker 5: But yeah, you you see, like if somebody didn't do
Speaker 5: the right thing somewhere else, then yeah, you're gonna get
Speaker 5: knocked out of your gap.
Speaker 3: It's gonna spill out.
Speaker 2: He fighting, It's gonna come out.
Speaker 3: What are you doing on Sundays?
Speaker 9: Man?
Speaker 3: You busy on Sundays? Man, you're still uckily.
Speaker 2: You got a little running, you got some days. Some
Speaker 2: days is for you know, relax, relax on someday. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that's for the girls.
Speaker 5: And you know, just to just to learn and you know, uh,
Speaker 5: you know, give give our praise and our appreciation to him.
Speaker 3: Believe that.
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Speaker 2: Crawford has come into the building and sat down with us,
Speaker 2: keeping it pc.
Speaker 3: He'd thrown anybody under the building. Nobody's under. He's kept
Speaker 3: it real, all right.
Speaker 2: But I've been digging, man, I'm trying to get some dirt,
Speaker 2: just something from you.
Speaker 7: Cap.
Speaker 3: Come on, that's why they called him that the cat took.
Speaker 3: I got an accountability listen. I'm sorry.
Speaker 5: I'm good though, So for me, honestly, I I had
Speaker 5: players do the same thing to me, and I'm like,
Speaker 5: I'm a fighter. I mean, sadly, sadly, I've had some
Speaker 5: regrets in my life. But like when I would hear it,
Speaker 5: it would initially like get me angry to the point
Speaker 5: where like the next time I seen him I was like, yo,
Speaker 5: like you're smiling in my face, Like why are you
Speaker 5: smiling in my face?
Speaker 2: Like I heard what you said to me on air.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like I want to punch
Speaker 2: you in your mouth right now. But like so that's
Speaker 2: why I don't do it like I have I have
Speaker 2: to calm back. I have to stay back from. I
Speaker 2: don't think you have to worry about that. Bro.
Speaker 3: Oh no, I'm not worried about I.
Speaker 2: Just I just I can tell you from one man
Speaker 2: to another, I don't think that I.
Speaker 3: Don't know about them to have them emotions. I want
Speaker 3: to let's keep in church.
Speaker 2: So here's a question that half of you guys, obviously
Speaker 2: a lot of Cowboy Nation is concerned about the running back.
Speaker 3: How concerned are you guys right now going into the season.
Speaker 2: You have Ezekiel Elliott that obviously is ninth year in
Speaker 2: the NFL, recaldal Or a guy that really still I
Speaker 2: think is unproven.
Speaker 3: I would say that, all right, we got el Boogie,
Speaker 3: we got I can't believe you.
Speaker 2: I can't believe you, but I'm trying to do I'm
Speaker 2: trying to help the show out here.
Speaker 3: I get it.
Speaker 2: So look, here's here's what I'm asking guys, and you
Speaker 2: gotta feel peel. As far as this coming down to
Speaker 2: the final fifty three? Will the Cowboys keep four running back?
Speaker 2: So you go with three? And that comes down to
Speaker 2: the question about Rico o'dado and Malik Davis.
Speaker 3: So when it comes to me, like you said, I
Speaker 3: think you're gonna.
Speaker 4: Keep Zeke for Shore is gonna be here because at
Speaker 4: the very worst, even if he's nowhere near you know,
Speaker 4: zekea twenty sixteen or however you want to see him,
Speaker 4: at the very worst, he's gonna be able to put
Speaker 4: the ball in the end zone. Like when you get
Speaker 4: to the two yard line, three yard he's gonna be
Speaker 4: able to punch it in. And that's where you know
Speaker 4: this team last year kind of struggled. They had a
Speaker 4: lot of exposive play though when you got to those
Speaker 4: short yarded situations, there wasn't really someone who can get
Speaker 4: it in the end zone. So you know, Zeke's gonna
Speaker 4: be here because he's gonna, at the very worst be
Speaker 4: able to do that and he can pick up blocks,
Speaker 4: you know, as with with with one of the best
Speaker 4: of them to do that. So to me, it's gonna
Speaker 4: come down to Malik Davis and Rico and I you know,
Speaker 4: they may keep I just I can't see him keeping
Speaker 4: all three because you're gonna have to put Hunter Limke
Speaker 4: on there.
Speaker 3: But you're gonna have to be in there because he's
Speaker 3: a special teams guy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're gonna have to keep him on there because
Speaker 4: he's gonna be special teams guy, your full back. You
Speaker 4: know you're gonna have to keep him on there. So
Speaker 4: I think it's gonna come down to those two, and
Speaker 4: they're very similar if you look at it. You know,
Speaker 4: Rico's a slashing guy. He can get you explosive plays,
Speaker 4: but so is Malak showing a burst in the preseason game.
Speaker 4: So to me, what it's gonna come down to those
Speaker 4: two individuals is what can do Who can do more?
Speaker 4: Who can receive out of the backfield, who can you know,
Speaker 4: pick up the blocks if something were to happen to
Speaker 4: Zeke as far as a blocking back, who's can put
Speaker 4: the ball on the end zone from the two yard line,
Speaker 4: and who can who can contribute on special teams Because
Speaker 4: you're not gonna hold a roster spot if you're not
Speaker 4: that starting guy and they're not going by you know,
Speaker 4: running back by committee.
Speaker 3: Who's gonna be able.
Speaker 4: To contribute on special teams under fossils you know, crew
Speaker 4: a little bit over there, because that's what you're gonna
Speaker 4: have to do in that backup you know, second or
Speaker 4: third team back, you're gonna have to participate on special teams.
Speaker 4: So who's gonna be able to go down there, cover kicks,
Speaker 4: cover punts, you know, do those types of things. Is
Speaker 4: what it's going to come down to. I didn't mention
Speaker 4: dus Won. Forgot to mention dus Won out there as well.
Speaker 4: He showed some some spark and then that Raiders game,
Speaker 4: elusive guy. He can be that kind of receiving back
Speaker 4: as well, maybe a returner as well.
Speaker 3: So it's gonna be a tough cutdown.
Speaker 4: But you know, to me, when it comes down to
Speaker 4: those guys, it's gonna be between Rico and the league
Speaker 4: because they're very similar.
Speaker 3: Then it comes down to me, is who's gonna be
Speaker 3: able to do more for the.
Speaker 5: Team running by I mean, just just in my time
Speaker 5: at camp, you know, I said my top three.
Speaker 7: Zeke, Duce, Juice, and Davis. Davis is his last name, right.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I like those three and again, yeah, like
Speaker 5: you said keep four or three.
Speaker 7: I don't think they're keeping four. So those are my.
Speaker 5: Top three, and I think I think, yeah, Zeke, like
Speaker 5: you said, you made, you made a lot of good points.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 5: Zeke is uh is the guy that if you if
Speaker 5: you need that ball and that end zone, he's he's pick,
Speaker 5: He's a dog. And then I've been a Deuce fan.
Speaker 5: You know, I'm a huge fan of his dad to Chris,
Speaker 5: love Chris. But that's I'm not being biased. I think
Speaker 5: Deuce is is a great running back, and you know,
Speaker 5: I think he can he can hold his own. He's
Speaker 5: got heart, and then you know, I just I just
Speaker 5: feel the heart out of Davis as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm really instill in that vein where
Speaker 2: I'm looking to see who can be that home run hitter,
Speaker 2: who can be that home run guy, you know, who
Speaker 2: can be your guy to take that take it, take
Speaker 2: it to the outside, hit it, you know, your forty
Speaker 2: fifty yard game, something like that. I think that's what
Speaker 2: we were looking at before with Pollard and and Elliott
Speaker 2: being that thunder lightning or whatever, you know, one two
Speaker 2: punch and everybody and every team in the NFL kind
Speaker 2: of has that one two punch. Now that we got
Speaker 2: Zeke back, who's going to be the other guy? I mean,
Speaker 2: looking at duce Vun, I think offensively, you ask yourself,
Speaker 2: can he pick up the blitz things like that? Obviously
Speaker 2: he's gonna have to contribute on special teams as well,
Speaker 2: So it's going to be interesting coming down to the cuts.
Speaker 2: It's gonna be a lot of guys, a lot of
Speaker 2: great guys uh out there that you know that get cut.
Speaker 2: But I got to ask you this before we go.
Speaker 2: Does the ceedee Lamb contract thing bother you at all
Speaker 2: to this point? Are you saying, Look, they're gonna get
Speaker 2: this thing done here pretty soon and he's gonna be
Speaker 2: ready to go for the season. As a seasoned veteran,
Speaker 2: do you say, look, this guy needs to get here now,
Speaker 2: get you know, get this timing and everything down.
Speaker 5: You know, just just watching how the Zach Martin thing
Speaker 5: played out and just being a cowboy and seeing Jerry's
Speaker 5: Shenanigan's uh, you know, throughout my whole career, I'm not
Speaker 5: worried about it. You know, I can see how people
Speaker 5: could be worried about it, But I'm not worried about it.
Speaker 5: I know that one huge thing for Jerry is you
Speaker 5: know all media is good media. Yeah, and uh, you know,
Speaker 5: the even just the little the little shots thrown back
Speaker 5: and forth at each other is good for the Cowboys.
Speaker 5: And I don't I don't. I don't see I don't
Speaker 5: see any I don't see this going further than Game one.
Speaker 3: Obviously, it would.
Speaker 5: Be great for him to be a part of the
Speaker 5: team before that, but CD is one of those players
Speaker 5: that doesn't need to be you know, like, he's still
Speaker 5: gonna he's still gonna go for dumb numbers. You know
Speaker 5: that game one if if if he showed up on Friday, yeah, Thursday, Friday.
Speaker 2: But I don't want that to just get it done.
Speaker 2: I don't want the way it is. But you know, yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 5: I don't want to see him go anywhere else to
Speaker 5: tell you that he's I feel like he's the best
Speaker 5: wide receiver in the game right now.
Speaker 2: So you see where you at on this man, If
Speaker 2: he took the button, have took the glass off the button?
Speaker 4: Yet he gotta get it done. I mean, I mean,
Speaker 4: this is this is a must. We talked about it.
Speaker 4: The passing offense is is CD lamb When you look
Speaker 4: at it. I mean, yeah, Ferguson is an upcoming you know,
Speaker 4: great tight end and you know he can he can do.
Speaker 4: He can be a mismatch nightmare for those linebackers and safeties.
Speaker 4: But when you talk about it all around threat and defenses,
Speaker 4: you got to put all all their resources towards stopping
Speaker 4: one guy.
Speaker 3: It's CD. And even when they do because we've seen
Speaker 3: it the past. Those are the last eight games.
Speaker 4: Each game was almost a buck fifty out there for him,
Speaker 4: and they double team, the triple team. They tried all
Speaker 4: they could that guy. He's one of the top in
Speaker 4: the game. And if you want a passing offense and
Speaker 4: you want your offense to be productive, you got to
Speaker 4: get the guy in there.
Speaker 2: Hey, we had we hadn't got an opportunity to see Cooks.
Speaker 2: But I can tell you this at looking at that fourth,
Speaker 2: fifth and sixth CD, you know, wide receiver out there
Speaker 2: for the preseason. Get it done, get it right now.
Speaker 2: Guys we talked about I didn't think we was gonna
Speaker 2: get through this whole thing.
Speaker 3: Man, the time was short. Man, looking back, man, we
Speaker 3: had a good time. So you was that close.
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