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Speaker 1: season fourteen, episode number sixty seven. Welcome to another edition
Speaker 1: of The Break, live from the s WBC Morgan Studios.
Speaker 1: At the start, we appreciate, we appreciate you guys, take
Speaker 1: it some time with us today. It is our last
Speaker 1: show of the week. We're gonna take a little time
Speaker 1: tomorrow to regenerate and recuperate and rejuvenate and just have
Speaker 1: a good weekend. And we're started today. High asked soon,
Speaker 1: so it must be nice. Yeah, no, So we'll go,
Speaker 1: we'll go. We'll we have about third minutes today because
Speaker 1: Cowboys change up some of the scheduling that this is
Speaker 1: not our fault, like we've been doing the forty five
Speaker 1: minute thing and I know some people don't like that,
Speaker 1: hate it. Sorry, but this is not our fault. Like
Speaker 1: Cowboys changed up their schedule during the bye week, which
Speaker 1: is completely contrary to the schedule we've been running on
Speaker 1: all during the season. So I think we can do
Speaker 1: I don't know what you want me to do about it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: do it in the afternoon. But I want to go home.
Speaker 1: I want to go home, yes, the bye week. So
Speaker 1: we're gonna jump right in. We got a few topics
Speaker 1: I want to hit um. First thing I want to
Speaker 1: hit um is the Amari Cooper arrival. He is now
Speaker 1: in the building. He had his first practice yesterday. Let
Speaker 1: me ask you a question. How long do you guys
Speaker 1: expect it will take before he is ready to be
Speaker 1: a starting contributor for this team. I mean he's gonna
Speaker 1: be starting against the Titans on Monday, he will be yes.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, you don't give up a first round pick.
Speaker 1: And then especially if you have the bye week, like
Speaker 1: if they were playing Sunday, maybe, but he'll have been
Speaker 1: here for twelve days by the time our ten days
Speaker 1: whatever it is, by the time they take the field. Like,
Speaker 1: if he's not starting, something is up. I hope he's
Speaker 1: not taking a five day, you know, bye week like
Speaker 1: everyone else, because he's already Remember he's coming off a
Speaker 1: bye week. Yeah, well, I did see yesterday that supposedly
Speaker 1: he and Dak are planning to stay in town and
Speaker 1: just kind of spending a little time together over the
Speaker 1: bye which if true and accurate, then I think it's
Speaker 1: probably a good thing. It's probably not a bad idea
Speaker 1: for them to start getting on the same page because
Speaker 1: now Dak has his number one guy and it's not
Speaker 1: I mean, it's a guy that he's getting fresh, and
Speaker 1: so it's kind of like, you know, he has an
Speaker 1: opportunity to kind of mold him around what he does
Speaker 1: and the vice versa, and the hope I think from
Speaker 1: the Cowboys perspective is that they're both going to be
Speaker 1: here for quite a while, So that's probably a smartening
Speaker 1: to do. It's like a body catcher to me? Is
Speaker 1: he cool? I just saw a couple of highlights he
Speaker 1: was now. I mean, it's hard to tell for what
Speaker 1: we saw yesterday and today. I mean, there's it's not
Speaker 1: a lot of practice practice, but I mean he's he's
Speaker 1: got a you know, good size to him. I mean
Speaker 1: he's not like a really really big guy, but he's
Speaker 1: definitely not a small guy. And he's just you know,
Speaker 1: he looks like a kind of looks like an average
Speaker 1: sized receiver. Um, maybe a little bit bigger than that.
Speaker 1: But you know he's got he's supposed to do everything well,
Speaker 1: which is why they draft you fourth overall. When your
Speaker 1: receiver draft fourth overall. I mean, you run good routes,
Speaker 1: you've got good speed, you've got good body size, and
Speaker 1: you've got good hands. And I know he's had some
Speaker 1: drops lately, but I don't really I don't buy the
Speaker 1: theory that like, I mean, it sounds good and it
Speaker 1: can certainly be useful, but I just think it's one
Speaker 1: of the most overhyped things in football. Like we're gonna
Speaker 1: we're gonna get together on Saturday and run some routes,
Speaker 1: like your routes on air. Is really gonna do that
Speaker 1: much for you? Like, I don't necessarily buy it, But
Speaker 1: by the time they play the Titans, Dak and Cooper
Speaker 1: will have been able to practice five or six times.
Speaker 1: So it's enough. I don't know how great it's gonna look,
Speaker 1: but it's enough. So that's what I expect. Yeah, do
Speaker 1: you expect? I know you said he's definitely you you
Speaker 1: think he's definitely starting by Tennessee how how long do
Speaker 1: you think it takes before he's actually really contributing? Would
Speaker 1: you be shocked if you get to Tennessee, he starts
Speaker 1: the game he only has one catch? Does that bother
Speaker 1: you if you get to Tennessee and he only has
Speaker 1: one catch? I think he'll really be a good contributor
Speaker 1: for this offense next season. That's really what I believe.
Speaker 1: That's that's what I'm trying to get to. Is this
Speaker 1: so this year thing or is this a well? I
Speaker 1: think they're gonna try this year, and I think there'll
Speaker 1: be certain routes that he can run and and you know,
Speaker 1: whether he starts or not just depends on the personnel
Speaker 1: package they put out there. But I mean, I think
Speaker 1: he's going to be a contributor right away. But I
Speaker 1: just think it'll take a while before he actually is,
Speaker 1: you know, in this offense. And who knows if next
Speaker 1: year's offense will be the same as this year. I
Speaker 1: don't I don't know that. I don't know. I actually
Speaker 1: I wrote about this. I wrote three thousand words for
Speaker 1: my column this week, Like that's how much That's how
Speaker 1: much stuff I just had for the average person out there.
Speaker 1: That threat that when you say that doesn't really make
Speaker 1: a difference. To tell me a little bit, what put
Speaker 1: some great mark on that. A story. A news story
Speaker 1: is anywhere from three to eight hundred words, and column
Speaker 1: is probably like eight hundreds. You went through thousand to
Speaker 1: a thousand in my college yesterday. Yeah, so you did
Speaker 1: three lot a book. I had a lot to say
Speaker 1: about the trade. But anyway, the point is into some
Speaker 1: days here like multiple two. Um. I think one thing
Speaker 1: I want to keep in mind is like the Cowboys
Speaker 1: are not asking Amari Cooper to be like Antonio Brown
Speaker 1: in the sense that he's going to catch one hundred
Speaker 1: and fifteen balls for sixteen hundred yards. Like that's not really,
Speaker 1: that's not this offense. It's not I mean, this is
Speaker 1: still a run first offense. It hasn't looked as good
Speaker 1: because they haven't had a receiving threat. But literally, in
Speaker 1: my column, the baseline that I'm looking at for any
Speaker 1: number one receiver in this offense is pretty much what
Speaker 1: Dez did in sixteen. And I know that sounds weird,
Speaker 1: but and I've said this a million times, like Dez
Speaker 1: played well in that sixteen offense, and he gave them
Speaker 1: the running room that they needed. And he made plays
Speaker 1: down the field. He caught fifty balls for eight something
Speaker 1: or no, he caught fifty balls for seven something and
Speaker 1: eight touchdowns in thirteen games because he missed three and
Speaker 1: I literally handicapped, and I was like, Okay, if you
Speaker 1: play sixteen games, that's about sixty catches for about almost
Speaker 1: a thousand a little bit less and eight to ten touchdowns.
Speaker 1: It's not elite numbers, but it's good enough. It's good
Speaker 1: enough for what you want to do in this offense
Speaker 1: to run the ball the way you need to run
Speaker 1: it and to open things up for Beasley. That's only
Speaker 1: four catches for sixty yards a game. That's not I mean,
Speaker 1: I'm not asking a lot of you. So I don't
Speaker 1: know if he's going to get that against Tennessee. I'd
Speaker 1: be surprised, but I would like to believe that he
Speaker 1: can start hitting those types of numbers after a little
Speaker 1: while in this offense. I mean, what I would like
Speaker 1: to see more than anything is is, you know, just
Speaker 1: get the ball down the field or at least attempt
Speaker 1: him down the field a little bit more, and you
Speaker 1: don't even have to make that's just with that pass
Speaker 1: interference penalties work. Just the same. It doesn't help anyone's
Speaker 1: fantasy team or doesn't really help his numbers, but I
Speaker 1: can promise you if you're going down the field and
Speaker 1: getting you know, different kind of coverages and things like that,
Speaker 1: and drawing penalties, that would be good. It'll be interesting
Speaker 1: to see how teams treat him, you know, watching Mary
Speaker 1: Cooper over there, you know, just like because it took
Speaker 1: a while for dez Dez even last year got more
Speaker 1: double coverages than anybody's getting. Nobody's really getting that here,
Speaker 1: so they need that. They need that back again. That
Speaker 1: would kind of help with it with the offense, but
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to prove that he's worth doubling at
Speaker 1: some point. You gotta prove that. And that's a good point.
Speaker 1: I felt if it were me, and it's not. But
Speaker 1: if it were me and I were making the offensive
Speaker 1: calls in the game against Tennessee, I would come out
Speaker 1: in that game and I would I would just be
Speaker 1: bombs away that game. The reason why is because I
Speaker 1: need teams to think, right, I need teams to think
Speaker 1: that I got this new weapon and I'm gonna be
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be bullish about using him. And and he
Speaker 1: has the ability to be able to be a game breaker,
Speaker 1: like if you don't pay enough attention to him, he
Speaker 1: will hit you for an eighty yard or and all
Speaker 1: of a sudden, just like that, Cowboys got seven points.
Speaker 1: I need them to know that, because I think that's
Speaker 1: part of the reason why the offense has been staggered
Speaker 1: at times this year is because it. Part of the
Speaker 1: reason is because again what they've said is we expect
Speaker 1: that we're gonna have eight nine in the box all
Speaker 1: the time, and we always run against that. Well, with
Speaker 1: an offensive line that's not as good as what it's
Speaker 1: been in the past, they can't run against eight and
Speaker 1: nine in the box. They got to be able to
Speaker 1: get that safety out of this. They got to be
Speaker 1: able to force them to keep two guys back. And
Speaker 1: I would basically more than a few times this game,
Speaker 1: I would have Gallop and I would have Cooper on
Speaker 1: opposite sides of the field, both challenging both deep sides
Speaker 1: of the field. So the safeties have to be back,
Speaker 1: and I'm taking the shot if if if I catch
Speaker 1: him in single high safety, I'm taking a shot at him.
Speaker 1: Because I'm forcing teams around. I'm doing it more for
Speaker 1: all the other teams are gonna have to play than
Speaker 1: just for Tennessee. You know what, let me say this too.
Speaker 1: And I don't know about if this is fair to
Speaker 1: the offensive line or not, but you said, because of
Speaker 1: the way the offensive line is playing, they can't beat
Speaker 1: the eight and nine men in the box. Are we
Speaker 1: sure it's not because of the eight and nine men
Speaker 1: in the box the offensive line is playing this way. Well,
Speaker 1: if you want to go back to what Zeke was
Speaker 1: saying before the season began, he said, we always have
Speaker 1: eight nine in the box, we still run against it,
Speaker 1: and we're still going to be successful against. His expectation
Speaker 1: at least was we've seen that before. I've been seeing
Speaker 1: that since I got to the Cowboys. My offensive line
Speaker 1: is good enough to where we could still make Hay
Speaker 1: against that kind of front. And to be honest with you,
Speaker 1: for the most part, they had like there have been
Speaker 1: one or two defenses in these last couple of years
Speaker 1: that could really stop the Cowboys offense when they wanted
Speaker 1: to run the ball. The Denver game, the New York game.
Speaker 1: New York had had done a pretty good job against
Speaker 1: them in a couple of different occasions. You could say Philly,
Speaker 1: but there weren't a lot of teams the other day. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but this year we've seen a lot more. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: that's my point Like before, he was right before that,
Speaker 1: there are a lot of teams that wanted to stop
Speaker 1: the run, they just couldn't. Yeah, this year, more and
Speaker 1: more teams having success stopping the run. But you've got
Speaker 1: all Pro and Hall of Fame players that are that
Speaker 1: are gone, and you just can't on all levels too.
Speaker 1: I mean, you're an All Pro center, the best center
Speaker 1: in the league, or arguably the best, is gone. You've
Speaker 1: got an Hall of Fame tight end who wasn't playing
Speaker 1: at that highest of levels. Still better than anything you got,
Speaker 1: still better, and he still understood coverages, he understood how
Speaker 1: to get open, he understood, you know, just how to
Speaker 1: get in the way and blocking. You know, Dez, say
Speaker 1: what you want. He's still demanded more more attention than
Speaker 1: anybody's doing now. So when you're taking all of these
Speaker 1: hits like that, yeah, it is going to be a difference.
Speaker 1: And I think Connor Williams is learning on the run
Speaker 1: and that's affecting everything. Yep. Let's take a real quick
Speaker 1: break when we come back. Um, I want to jump
Speaker 1: into an idea I had for a few topics where
Speaker 1: we'll talk about some change. I want to throw some
Speaker 1: different things that the Cowboys could do here in the
Speaker 1: in the off week that could possibly changed things up.
Speaker 1: And then I'm gonna let you guys tell me whether
Speaker 1: you think they're good ideas bad ideas. And also are
Speaker 1: these things that the Cowboys coaches you think would actually
Speaker 1: do or if it's something they would never do. We'll
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Speaker 1: we will not be doing shows tomorrow. Actually, none of
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Speaker 1: a little bit of time to term Recouper eight and
Speaker 1: get their minds right for this second half of the season.
Speaker 1: So Rie and Marie Cooper eight, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: You get it? Yeah, Okay, good job, You're welcome. You're
Speaker 1: welcome to that. No. I mean when you said recouper eight,
Speaker 1: I thought that's gonna be a headline. Oh you guys
Speaker 1: are already thinking like that. Oh I just that was
Speaker 1: My first thought was wow, because every thing we've done
Speaker 1: in the last four five days. I mean, if you
Speaker 1: just look at all our headlines, just says Scooper. Cooper,
Speaker 1: you know, if if he goes out and he plays
Speaker 1: a good game and the Cowboys win against Tennessee, the
Speaker 1: heck of a title for your game. The Cowboys are
Speaker 1: winning against Tennessee. Like, let's just let's dispel that. I mean,
Speaker 1: I know, we got to talk about them next week. No,
Speaker 1: they are. They're at home. They're at home. They're that's literally,
Speaker 1: they're gonna win at home, and then they're gonna lose
Speaker 1: to the Eagles, and then I don't think you can
Speaker 1: take any team for any game for granted. I take
Speaker 1: for granted, I was just trying to make a smart
Speaker 1: ass game. Okay, good at three and our at home.
Speaker 1: They are gonna win that game, all right, They're gonna win.
Speaker 1: All right, We will see Tennessee. I mean, Tennessee is
Speaker 1: one of those teams is so weird, Like there are
Speaker 1: times they played this year where you were like, huh,
Speaker 1: look pretty good. The other times they play this year,
Speaker 1: you're like, yeah, but layoffs last year they don't get believable,
Speaker 1: Like they don't get blown out, though they were in
Speaker 1: a lot of game. They lost twenty one nothing at home.
Speaker 1: They got Ravens be slapped by that Ravens last week though,
Speaker 1: who are they playing? Last? They lost by a point
Speaker 1: to the Chargers in London. Charges, that's what it was,
Speaker 1: and the Charges are good team. They gave the good
Speaker 1: eleven sacks to the Ravens eleven. I know the Ravens
Speaker 1: has been really good, their defense especially really words. We're
Speaker 1: burning through topics for now, all right, So here's what's
Speaker 1: gonna do. Here's gonna do. We've got um. I wanted
Speaker 1: to throw out some different things that the Cowboys could
Speaker 1: possibly change this week, and these are not things that
Speaker 1: necessarily they would change. But what I guess the question
Speaker 1: I'm gonna ask you guys on each of these is
Speaker 1: number one, is it a good idea or bad idea
Speaker 1: to make this change? And then number two is this
Speaker 1: something that, based on your knowledge of this coaching staff,
Speaker 1: that they would do or something they would absolutely not do?
Speaker 1: All right, we gotta do it. First one change the
Speaker 1: offensive play caller. Go from Linahan to Jason Garrett. Good idea,
Speaker 1: bad idea, good idea, good idea. I mean that's wow.
Speaker 1: You may really make me take a hard stance here,
Speaker 1: Like it's not a bad idea, but like, I don't,
Speaker 1: I really don't think that that's like this magical cure all.
Speaker 1: To be totally honest with you, like, I don't think
Speaker 1: the play calling is Like I know people hate Scott Nahan,
Speaker 1: but I don't think it's just gonna magically be better
Speaker 1: doing doing. There's no doing if it's not gonna be Basically,
Speaker 1: I feel like there's not a different point. I really Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's kind of how I feel. Like I'm not saying
Speaker 1: it's a great Like I don't think Scotland Hahn's doing
Speaker 1: this amazing job, but I don't think that's this huge
Speaker 1: fix in my opinion. I mean, I probably isn't, but
Speaker 1: I mean it's not nothing's changing right now. So I mean,
Speaker 1: what's it gonna hurt his feelings? Yeah, I mean it would, yeah,
Speaker 1: assume but not that Oh well, this is a results
Speaker 1: oriented business. Yeah, it's I mean something different. I mean
Speaker 1: we've been seeing the same stuff over and over. I
Speaker 1: mean I don't know I would I would make a change,
Speaker 1: but yeah, I don't know if it would necessarily do anything. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I would have I would have made a change
Speaker 1: this this week. I kind of agree with you from
Speaker 1: the standpoint that Nick, I kind of agree with you
Speaker 1: because I think you know what they always say about
Speaker 1: the definition of insanity, keep doing the same thing over
Speaker 1: and over and expecting a different result. If your offense
Speaker 1: is not doing enough right, um, you gotta do something
Speaker 1: to shake it up and whether and I kind of
Speaker 1: agree with you Dave from standpoint, I don't know that
Speaker 1: that's the answer. I don't know if there's gonna be
Speaker 1: some magical change that would happen by that. But to me,
Speaker 1: sometimes if you just have a different person calling plays
Speaker 1: in a different sequence, it can ignite the offense and
Speaker 1: give the offense a little bit of a spark because
Speaker 1: it's just a little bit different. It's the same plays,
Speaker 1: it's just a sequencing which you call them, right, It's
Speaker 1: just how aggressive are you in this situation versus this
Speaker 1: situation that can sometimes make the difference. I mean, think
Speaker 1: of it if you're like a NASCAR team though, think
Speaker 1: of it if you're at Lanahan and you're like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm the driver, I'm the driver here and we've been
Speaker 1: dealing with this and this car's a little raggedy or whatever,
Speaker 1: and they're like, all right, well guess what, we're gonna
Speaker 1: change the driver this week, and we're changing a new car.
Speaker 1: So we're gonna give a new car, and then someone
Speaker 1: else is gonna get the driver. Like, wait a second,
Speaker 1: why can't I get the new car? You know, maybe
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do better if you give me something, you know,
Speaker 1: some better tools. Yeah. The only problem with that is
Speaker 1: he got a nice, nice car, pretty decent car in
Speaker 1: Tavon Austin, and we hadn't seen us effective, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a really good point. Yeah, I mean he didn't
Speaker 1: got him the way that the other teams. They didn't
Speaker 1: find a way to use him and incorporate him into
Speaker 1: this offense to where it made a sizeable difference in
Speaker 1: I mean, if Houston could do something with Kiki Kuti
Speaker 1: or whatever, I mean, do something, yes Austin, Yes, I agree. No,
Speaker 1: And that's that's a really good point. Is I mean, No,
Speaker 1: there's there's clearly star power lacking on this offense, but
Speaker 1: they are not without talent, and that Tavon Austin is
Speaker 1: the big one that I don't understand. Uh, Lucky Whitehead
Speaker 1: was more active in their offense than Tavon Austin was,
Speaker 1: and he didn't always even get the ball, but he
Speaker 1: was just a more active part of what was going on.
Speaker 1: Uh baffling U. The Deontay Thompson thing. It's just like
Speaker 1: you're not using him to do what he's supposed to do.
Speaker 1: I mean, you're just you're you're not. I mean, you're
Speaker 1: He needs to be running the deep rounity. He needs
Speaker 1: to be using the speed. He's not a possession receiver.
Speaker 1: I mean with the game on the line and Carolina,
Speaker 1: they threw him the out route he was cut earlier
Speaker 1: in the week, and then now he's the guy with
Speaker 1: the game on the line. He runs a timing route
Speaker 1: and you know it's incomplete off his hands or it's
Speaker 1: an interception against Houston because you know he doesn't he
Speaker 1: comes back and bought you know, knocks the ball up
Speaker 1: in the air. I mean, it just he seems like
Speaker 1: the guy that should be running deep and taking the
Speaker 1: safety with them and opening out things in the middle.
Speaker 1: I want to I don't want to kill your game.
Speaker 1: But the last thing that you the last thing that
Speaker 1: you said, really is it keeps resonating with me. Is
Speaker 1: like based on what I know about this coaching staff,
Speaker 1: what do I think? And that's gonna color everything I say.
Speaker 1: And that's cool, that's why I that's the next part
Speaker 1: of the question, So go with that. Well, it's just that,
Speaker 1: like I know, I know this coaching staff really well,
Speaker 1: to the point, like I was shocked that the Cowboys
Speaker 1: even traded for a Marii Cooper because that doesn't seem
Speaker 1: like something that they would do. So it's nice to
Speaker 1: see that they're willing to step outside their comfort zone.
Speaker 1: But in my opinion, basically Jason Garrett is he's not
Speaker 1: that type of guy. Like he's more you know, he's
Speaker 1: gonna keep hammering on the nail until it goes in,
Speaker 1: like you know, even I specifically myself asked him, you know,
Speaker 1: earlier in the season, like, well, your tight ends aren't
Speaker 1: really playing the way that you would prefer them to play,
Speaker 1: Like does that make you think that you need to
Speaker 1: alter the way that you play offense? But I mean,
Speaker 1: do you need to change personality? You need to use
Speaker 1: fewer tight ends, you need to incorporate your receivers more,
Speaker 1: And he thought of it more as, no, we need
Speaker 1: more time on task with these tight ends. So that
Speaker 1: they can get better and we can execute what we
Speaker 1: want them to do better I can. I know there's
Speaker 1: people at home that disagree with that, and that's fine,
Speaker 1: but that's how the head coach thinks. And the head
Speaker 1: coach has the backing of the owner. And we've said before,
Speaker 1: I mean he's going to have the backing until he doesn't.
Speaker 1: But for the time being, Jerry Jones is all in
Speaker 1: on Jason Garrett, and so all these decisions are going
Speaker 1: to reflect Jason Garrett's thought process, and it's not Jason
Speaker 1: Garrett's way to make those type of knee jerk mid
Speaker 1: season changes. I don't think that's an interesting point of
Speaker 1: view on the coach because I see that in some
Speaker 1: ways that that could be a good characteristic because I
Speaker 1: think sometimes this happens a lot in college football. There's
Speaker 1: so much change in college football. You see, these programs
Speaker 1: are changing coaches every three or four years, and there's
Speaker 1: just always something changing, and so there's never a time
Speaker 1: to really focus in and say we're just going to
Speaker 1: get better in this area. We're gonna keep hammering at
Speaker 1: until we get better in this area to actually improve.
Speaker 1: So I can see it from that side, the flip
Speaker 1: side to it is you can become so stubborn to
Speaker 1: the point to where you literally need to make a
Speaker 1: move and you won't because you're so blinded by we
Speaker 1: gotta make this work, gotta make this work, and it
Speaker 1: just doesn't work right. So it's kind of a double
Speaker 1: edged sword. You kind of want that a little bit.
Speaker 1: But at what point does he have to say, Okay,
Speaker 1: I've really got to make a change. This organization has
Speaker 1: come across as pretty stubborn at many points in the
Speaker 1: last five or six years, So, I mean, you're right,
Speaker 1: there's been some times when I thought that Jason should
Speaker 1: change things up a lot more, but he just stays
Speaker 1: consistent with the message. And you know, that's why this
Speaker 1: team has been consistent. I mean they have. I mean,
Speaker 1: you can say that they're inconsistent, but they're very consistent.
Speaker 1: I mean they're they're just very consistently average, and even
Speaker 1: in the years that they have good years, they follow
Speaker 1: it up with a really bad year. I mean, it
Speaker 1: all kind of evens out. That's why his record is
Speaker 1: a kind of right there. But you look around the league,
Speaker 1: most coaches are, i mean, most teams are kind of
Speaker 1: the same way. They just haven't had as much longer
Speaker 1: as long as a leash as he's had a right
Speaker 1: Let's move on to the next topic regarding change Lyle Collins.
Speaker 1: You could take Lyle Collins who is in right now
Speaker 1: you're right tackle, and you could possibly flip him into
Speaker 1: left guard. Take Connor Williams moving him out to right tackle.
Speaker 1: The idea would be there that maybe Lyle is better
Speaker 1: at guard. Maybe that shorees up your left side a
Speaker 1: little bit more. Connor Williams played tackle in college, so
Speaker 1: maybe getting him back out to tackle moves him to
Speaker 1: something that's more familiar. Although he was a left tackle
Speaker 1: in college, moving out to tackle, maybe that gets him
Speaker 1: something that's more familiar that he can maybe adapt to
Speaker 1: a little faster, and maybe you get a little bump
Speaker 1: in in what you're able to get out of your
Speaker 1: offensive line. Good idea or bad idea. This goes right
Speaker 1: back to what I was saying, is like, you know,
Speaker 1: do you you see it and say this isn't working.
Speaker 1: We got a change, or you like, these guys will
Speaker 1: get better if they can just get more time. And
Speaker 1: I don't have an easy answer to it, and it
Speaker 1: hurts me just on a Lyle Collins is one of
Speaker 1: my favorite guys on the team. He went to LSU
Speaker 1: and he I thought he played fantastic last year given
Speaker 1: the circumstances, and it's just not happening for him this year.
Speaker 1: Like he's he's not playing well and I can't put
Speaker 1: a finger on why. Um so I'm not I'm not
Speaker 1: trying to defend that and he's playing great. What are
Speaker 1: you talking about? I'm not blind, but I don't know
Speaker 1: what to do about that. And I don't know, I
Speaker 1: really don't know if shuffling is the right is the
Speaker 1: right call, because what's what's Connor Williams's problem when he's
Speaker 1: run into problems power? Right, Like he's not that strong,
Speaker 1: which ends are strong too? Like it's not, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, you don't have to be as strong to
Speaker 1: play tackle. It's more about your feet, it's more about
Speaker 1: it's more about your absolutely. But I guarante he'll get
Speaker 1: overpowered at tackle too if he's getting I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: it's not it ain't like I mean, think look at
Speaker 1: look at DeMarcus Lawrence like he's I mean, no, they're bullrushes.
Speaker 1: That's how you're going up that power. Yeah, And on
Speaker 1: top of that, I think. I mean think Connor Williams
Speaker 1: has played well more than he's played bad, that I
Speaker 1: worried about hindering his development at one position by flopping him.
Speaker 1: And you're already paying Lyle pretty good money at tackle,
Speaker 1: and I just I don't. I tempted to say, you
Speaker 1: just write it out. I'm not saying it's looked good,
Speaker 1: but I think that's better than the ultimate first thought
Speaker 1: was the same as you know, write it out. But
Speaker 1: but I do I thought of the exact same thing
Speaker 1: you just said, like, what are the problems of these
Speaker 1: two guys? And I think that that Lyle has become
Speaker 1: kind of big and you know, burly little bit and
Speaker 1: and he has some problems with some speed rushers and
Speaker 1: maybe you know, inside would be better for him. And
Speaker 1: on the flip side, yeah, I think Connor's got pretty
Speaker 1: good feet, but he gets overpowered some and and he
Speaker 1: might face less of that on the outside. But you know,
Speaker 1: if if if you could just do that quickly, then
Speaker 1: why do we go to training camp? You know, why
Speaker 1: do we have off season? If we could just do
Speaker 1: it like whatever that you know, then then why do
Speaker 1: it and practice and all that time? And I don't
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's necessarily the best answer, but um,
Speaker 1: it's kind of similar to the play calling stuff. I mean,
Speaker 1: maybe you can try it, but if you try it,
Speaker 1: how long do you stick with it? I mean, this
Speaker 1: isn't something you just go back to something else. So
Speaker 1: I don't see that happening. I'd be intrigued if they
Speaker 1: did it, but I don't see it happening. And I
Speaker 1: think that's the big thing like this, when you get
Speaker 1: to this part of the question would the coaches do it?
Speaker 1: I don't think there's any way in hell that these
Speaker 1: coaches would make that kind of change right now in
Speaker 1: the season. To be perfect, I given to go ahead.
Speaker 1: You know what Another issue that the Lyon's dealing with
Speaker 1: as well is is, you know, Jason Witton would line
Speaker 1: up on that right side this team would play right handed,
Speaker 1: and they'd have he'd have an experienced, you know, good
Speaker 1: technique block or not strong all the time, but he
Speaker 1: held his own at times, you know, And he doesn't
Speaker 1: have that guy anymore. And I think that they're hurting
Speaker 1: on at the tight end position. So I think that's
Speaker 1: how you know, that's definitely affecting Lyell, and I think
Speaker 1: it would affect whoever the right tackle is too. I mean,
Speaker 1: you're not getting as much help as you typically have
Speaker 1: in the past. If you had asked me earlier in
Speaker 1: the week, you know, if there was going to be
Speaker 1: a change, even more so than Scotland Ahan. And I'm
Speaker 1: just you know, I'm taking a guest based on my
Speaker 1: knowledge of the team. I probably would have said Paul Alexander.
Speaker 1: Just you know, he's the new offensive line coach. Your
Speaker 1: tackles have both regressed this year. You know, there's been
Speaker 1: a lot of talk about playing new techniques on the
Speaker 1: offensive line. I would not have been surprised to see
Speaker 1: them make that change at all. But it's Thursday of
Speaker 1: the bye week. I mean, it's it's Friday for all
Speaker 1: intents and purposes, and that hasn't happened, and I have
Speaker 1: a hard time believing it's going to happen now. So
Speaker 1: that's definitely, you know, I think that's something that could
Speaker 1: have been considered. But again, the coaching staff, the way
Speaker 1: we do, I don't think any of us are surprised
Speaker 1: that they didn't do that. Okay, I have several more.
Speaker 1: We're at the end of our show, so I'm gonna
Speaker 1: hold these till next week. We'll get into these on Mondays.
Speaker 1: I'm actually some are more interesting ones, like travel Byron Jones.
Speaker 1: I think that would be an interesting one for us
Speaker 1: to dive into and think about it so whether that
Speaker 1: could be a good option. But we'll talk about all
Speaker 1: those on next Monday. Again, we're out tomorrow. We'll be
Speaker 1: back on Monday. We'll be back at our regular time, hopefully.
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure we'll be back at our regular time
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