1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:19,960 Speaker 1: Oh text text text time, Good afternoon, and welcome to 2 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:22,600 Speaker 1: the show. I'm a new week. Welcome to really kind 3 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: of a new season. Here at one Bill's Drive. It 4 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: is the first day of the offseason conditioning program and 5 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 1: we are live on the air for Morchard Park. If 6 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:32,200 Speaker 1: you're watching on the MSG FEE, you see the shot 7 00:00:32,280 --> 00:00:34,800 Speaker 1: of the stadium. Uh, it doesn't look like a new 8 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:37,880 Speaker 1: season where it doesn't It looks like BORI it's a 9 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: little bit of light snow here on Chard Park today. 10 00:00:39,800 --> 00:00:41,720 Speaker 1: But we're not to Steve. I said to Steve, look 11 00:00:41,720 --> 00:00:43,199 Speaker 1: at that, and he said, we're not talking about it. 12 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 1: So we're not gonna talk about about it. It's just 13 00:00:44,920 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 1: a little snow won't want to get hurt, Steve. I 14 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:48,760 Speaker 1: was in New York over the weekend. It was seventy 15 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: five and sunny Saturday and Sunday. It was ridiculously nice. 16 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 1: I'm totally with you. I played golf on Saturday. It 17 00:00:55,200 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 1: was gorgeous. Uh, there's a lot of you know, it's 18 00:00:57,800 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 1: a great day and with outside Yeah, I know it was. 19 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 1: It's gonna be kind of a cruddy week this week. 20 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:06,399 Speaker 1: It's gonna be that mid to high fit. It does 21 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:09,080 Speaker 1: get up to sixty and the high sixties Wednesday or so, 22 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:11,480 Speaker 1: just tell me you didn't want to talk about No, 23 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Let's getting better. It's getting better, just getting 24 00:01:13,920 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 1: extended five day. I don't dwell on the negative. I 25 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: try to dwell on the positive. So you know that's 26 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:21,400 Speaker 1: where I'm at. Here's positive looking forward. That's why it's 27 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 1: kind of a start of a new season. First day 28 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:27,840 Speaker 1: of the voluntary offseason conditioning program was today. What do 29 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 1: we count about forty or fifty players out there? We 30 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:33,960 Speaker 1: saw the offensive Yeah, there was like thirty almost forties 31 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 1: offensive players, and there's got to be maybe that many 32 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:38,800 Speaker 1: defensive players. There's gotta be seventy man, there might be. 33 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:45,280 Speaker 1: They might get ninety ninety five percent uh participation. Yeah, 34 00:01:45,640 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 1: of course, all you know, they're you know, they're not 35 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: I don't know what they're doing there. And we were 36 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: watching on MSG. They're throwing the medicine bowls. Right. This 37 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: is all conditioning. It's you know, Josh is out there 38 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 1: throwing this thing around. And this is the first phase 39 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: of the off season, voluntary offseason conditioning program. It's conditioning. 40 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 1: It's strength workouts. No positional work allowed, so you won't 41 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 1: be you won't see running backs lineup or receivers lining up. 42 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:09,919 Speaker 1: Players who need rehab work can get treatment. This goes 43 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 1: for the first two weeks, and then in week three 44 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:14,120 Speaker 1: they get to Phase two, so Phase one of the 45 00:02:14,200 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 1: Bill's voluntary offseason conditioning program. I believe Tyler Croft is 46 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 1: on screen right there. Phase one of the voluntary offseason 47 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:23,959 Speaker 1: conditioning program began today and it will wrap up in 48 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:25,960 Speaker 1: the next couple of minutes or so. Coming up at 49 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: one o'clock, we will hear from some of the principles involved. 50 00:02:28,520 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 1: You've got the podium sound coming from players after the workouts, 51 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:35,919 Speaker 1: including Jermaine Edmonds and Josh Allen and a couple of others. 52 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:39,520 Speaker 1: Get their view on the start of the offseason conditioning program. 53 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:42,480 Speaker 1: I mentioned to you today and I was just reminded 54 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:44,679 Speaker 1: watching the video that we have in an MSG. This 55 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 1: is really the start of the big season for the 56 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 1: strength and conditioning staff, Eric Siano and his staff, right, 57 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: this is when they go to work with these players, 58 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 1: These players who come in after what two and a 59 00:02:55,080 --> 00:02:57,239 Speaker 1: half three months I'm not going to say of inactivity, 60 00:02:57,320 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: but at least not of structured workouts. Yeah, yeah, and 61 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: they go to work now It's funny too because Eric Siano, 62 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: this is the perfect time year we want to talk 63 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 1: to him, you know, we want to get him on 64 00:03:07,520 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 1: this show. He's like busy, He's one of those guys. 65 00:03:11,919 --> 00:03:13,519 Speaker 1: I ain't got time to do that either. He doesn't 66 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: want to come on there. We're trying to get him on. 67 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 1: It could because I think it would be infinitely interesting, 68 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 1: particularly with the new facility that they're in and all 69 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 1: the stuff that they're doing with these players. I just 70 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:23,720 Speaker 1: want to get at of all the what do they 71 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:26,799 Speaker 1: call them, modalities that they've got available to these guys 72 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:28,799 Speaker 1: to keep them on the field. They had a really 73 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:32,639 Speaker 1: good season last year. The medical and training staff and 74 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 1: the and the strength conditioning staff had a phenomenal year. 75 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 1: Last night in support of this team. Now, the team 76 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: only went six and ten, but they lost fewer man 77 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 1: games to injury than anybody in the National Football League. 78 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: And with the upgrade in their facilities that we just 79 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 1: opened that they just opened up on Friday, they should, 80 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: you know, feel like they've got a real head start 81 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: on having another good year like that. And there's no 82 00:03:54,720 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: getting around You're not gonna have nobody get hurt during 83 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: the season. It's one hundred percent chance of anybody have 84 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:04,120 Speaker 1: you getting hurt during your regular season. That was that 85 00:04:04,200 --> 00:04:06,040 Speaker 1: way when I played. It still that way, but to 86 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: get these guys on the back on the practice field 87 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 1: and on the game field, of course feeling much much 88 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 1: better than the otherwise would have because of all this 89 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:17,280 Speaker 1: new equipment, the new technologies that they're implementing. It's a 90 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:19,000 Speaker 1: big step forward for the team, and I think it's 91 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 1: gonna help, and you know, over the course of a 92 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: long season, it will be a big benefit to these guys. 93 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 1: So I'd love to get him on. If we go, 94 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 1: we'll keep pestering him thought. That's what we do. We're 95 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 1: gonna hear from some of these players coming up at 96 00:04:31,080 --> 00:04:32,840 Speaker 1: one o'clock or so when they hit the podium over 97 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 1: in the media room. We will share those interviews with 98 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:38,640 Speaker 1: you on the show here today Before that, twelve thirty today, 99 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Bills Insider Buffalo Bills dot Com, will join 100 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: us right here in studio in about twenty six minutes 101 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:46,839 Speaker 1: to discuss what he sees today. We'll get his thoughts 102 00:04:46,920 --> 00:04:50,160 Speaker 1: on the new player Performance center, the new weight room 103 00:04:50,200 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 1: which is open and now and in business today, and 104 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: a couple of other issues with Chris Brown coming up 105 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 1: at twelve thirty one o'clock, we'll hear from the podium 106 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 1: two o'clock we're gonna focus on the draft for an 107 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:01,000 Speaker 1: hour week and away. A week and a half away 108 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:03,840 Speaker 1: from around one day one of the NFL Draft, which 109 00:05:03,920 --> 00:05:07,560 Speaker 1: is a Thursday, April twenty fifth, we'll talk with Dan Shaka, 110 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:11,039 Speaker 1: the editor and publisher of Our Lads Draft Our Lads 111 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen Guide to the NFL Draft. I'm a subscriber, 112 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:16,280 Speaker 1: I have been for some thirty years. Just got my 113 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 1: Our Lads Draft Guide in the mail over the weekend. 114 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: Our Lands you want it badly, but you're not gonna 115 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 1: get Yeah, no I don't. This is the Bible, you know. 116 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:25,960 Speaker 1: You know what I've got. I've got the website. I 117 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:29,840 Speaker 1: know this is easier to maneuver through. It probably is. Look, 118 00:05:30,080 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 1: here's the best thing about it. And I mentioned this 119 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:33,880 Speaker 1: to Dan Shaka last time. I handa not a picture 120 00:05:33,920 --> 00:05:37,239 Speaker 1: in the magazine. It's all info. It's almost like data 121 00:05:37,640 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 1: when you open it up. I mean it's it's it's 122 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: pretty analytical stuff. So it's kind of fun to do. 123 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:44,480 Speaker 1: But um, you know, so we got he's coming on 124 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:47,240 Speaker 1: with us at two o'clock. That'll be fun um talking 125 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:50,200 Speaker 1: more about it. There's all kinds now. And as you know, 126 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:52,920 Speaker 1: anybody listens to the radio and listen to us, we're 127 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:57,479 Speaker 1: all in NFL all the time mostly, and it's mock 128 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 1: draft season, I mean everybody's and now you mock draft 129 00:06:00,680 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: two point zero, mock draft three point zero, you know. 130 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 1: And I saw a mock draft today that had the 131 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 1: Bills trading out at number nine down to fifteen with 132 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 1: the Washington Redskins, and the Bills still get DK Metcalf 133 00:06:10,920 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 1: doing that plus some picks. So there's all of that 134 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:17,679 Speaker 1: conjecture going on. There's still questions about whether the Cardinals 135 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 1: will actually take Kyler Murray with the first pick of 136 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:22,800 Speaker 1: the draft. Maybe it's all smoke screen where they think, yeah, 137 00:06:22,839 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: he's the guy, he's the guy that can really get 138 00:06:24,560 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: it done, and it's all a smoke screen because they're 139 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 1: gonna actually keep Josh Rosen and trade that top pick, 140 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:34,800 Speaker 1: hoping they can get great value and build their roster, 141 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 1: because you know, they were a poor football team last 142 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 1: year with a poor roster, and the only way to 143 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 1: get a better roster is to pick a lot of better, 144 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:44,599 Speaker 1: a lot better players and a lot of them. They 145 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 1: need more picks to do that, So maybe the Arizona 146 00:06:48,040 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 1: Cardinals will trade more picks for the first to get 147 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:53,920 Speaker 1: more picks for the first pick of the draft this year, 148 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 1: and that has obviously a ripple effect throughout the first 149 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 1: round and beyond. So there's a lot of conjecture going 150 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 1: on at this time of year, and that's where we're at, 151 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:05,880 Speaker 1: and we're neck deep in it. In the our Lands guy, 152 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:08,200 Speaker 1: Dan Shonka, we'll talk to him about this today too. 153 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: He's got Arizona going with Nick Boza with the first 154 00:07:11,640 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 1: overall picked, the Ohio State defensive end. We'll talk to 155 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 1: him about that. He's got Connor Murray going eleventh as 156 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: the second quarterback chosen, which is different than what's been 157 00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 1: the narrative since he ended the combine. But all of 158 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 1: that coming up with Dan Shonka coming up at two 159 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: o'clock was today our Lands guy to the NFL tramp. 160 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:30,560 Speaker 1: So the draft is in the mixed. Brownie's coming in, 161 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 1: a couple of min's coming in twelve thirty. We got 162 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: a lot to talk about, including the weekend which most 163 00:07:36,600 --> 00:07:39,360 Speaker 1: sports fans, most Americans I think, were consumed by the 164 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 1: coverage of the Masters on CBS over the weekend. Here. 165 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: You know, I was in New York and then coming home, 166 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 1: and I thought I miss it, and I was aware 167 00:07:49,600 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 1: of what happened. I actually watched a little bit of 168 00:07:51,200 --> 00:07:54,280 Speaker 1: a replay, the late afternoon replay in the Laguardi Airport. 169 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 1: But I got home. I turned on the TV at 170 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 1: eight thirty when I got home last night, and there 171 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 1: was the Masters, the entire sports. So I stayed up 172 00:08:03,040 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 1: one thirty in the morning. I was up watching the Masters. 173 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 1: It was good. It wasn't here's the thing, I'm not 174 00:08:08,120 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 1: going to poke holes at it. It's obviously one of 175 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 1: the most memorable Masters in recent years. It wasn't overly 176 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:17,240 Speaker 1: dramatic in terms of the play Steve. I mean, there 177 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: was the moment on twelve when what four of the 178 00:08:19,720 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 1: six golfers plunked it in the water, kind of the 179 00:08:22,480 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 1: turning point, but you know, there was no great charge 180 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 1: down sixteen seventeen eighteen. Tiger was methodical, he was efficient 181 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: and did fantastic. He was great. Others crumbled a little bit. 182 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 1: I was impressed by a lot of things from Tiger Woods, 183 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:40,520 Speaker 1: including his demeanor. Steve. He never got too excited up 184 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 1: two down, too high or low about how his round 185 00:08:43,640 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 1: was going right, and he just chewing his gum, confidently 186 00:08:46,320 --> 00:08:49,959 Speaker 1: chewing his gum and making shots. Nothing spectacular, and he 187 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: came out of winter. It is a memorable win. We'll 188 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 1: talk about that in a moment, but I didn't listen. 189 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: I'm talking to people on my way to the airport yesterday. 190 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:58,559 Speaker 1: Oh it's the greatest. I've never seen anything like it. 191 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:01,319 Speaker 1: And I was, really, that's a little bit let down 192 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: watching it last night. Is said, well, there's no great 193 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: drama here. So there was some there was some great 194 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:10,319 Speaker 1: um moments in the tournament, but at the end of 195 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:12,160 Speaker 1: the tournament, it was just two holes to go. It 196 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: was over. Yeah, I guess that's what I'm saying. That's it, 197 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:17,319 Speaker 1: and I get it. And I can go on and 198 00:09:17,440 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: on about the Masters Golf Tournament. I've been there a 199 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:22,440 Speaker 1: handful of times and watched a lot of different rounds 200 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:28,079 Speaker 1: and um, and I've I've been to a multitude of 201 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 1: top level sporting events in a multitude of sports, you know, 202 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 1: from the NBA to the NHL to of course the NFL, 203 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 1: UH the golf golf, the PGA, both with the Ryder 204 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:44,719 Speaker 1: Cup and the PGA and the Masters. I've been to 205 00:09:44,920 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: major events. I've been to the Boston Marathon, I've been 206 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:49,800 Speaker 1: to World Series Games, you know, all of those different 207 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:53,199 Speaker 1: sports at the highest level of being performed at. And 208 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: I can go on and on about why the Masters 209 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:58,480 Speaker 1: is a unique sporting event at the highest level. There's 210 00:09:58,520 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: a lot of reasons for it. Most of it has 211 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: to do with when you're there, not only the way 212 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 1: they demand that the networks cover it, but also the 213 00:10:07,480 --> 00:10:11,439 Speaker 1: high level of competition. And that tournament yesterday did have 214 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 1: some unique moments in it that we've seen similar things 215 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 1: to it before. But you know, it was unique because 216 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:19,959 Speaker 1: the first couple of rounds of the tournament over the 217 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: weekend there was it was a current day Mount Rushmore 218 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 1: with about ten or twelve names instead of just four 219 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:31,600 Speaker 1: of guys who were on the leaderboard with a chance 220 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: to win it, big names, major winners, guys who were 221 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:39,079 Speaker 1: tied for the lead, within one of the lead. It 222 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 1: was at a huge, huge, top heavy leader board that 223 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:45,199 Speaker 1: was really compelling because any one of those guys and 224 00:10:45,320 --> 00:10:47,599 Speaker 1: all of them had experience of winning a tournament of 225 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 1: this magnitude, so it was really a horse race at 226 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:53,560 Speaker 1: the end of the tournament and then to see Tiger 227 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 1: get into the final group late in the day on 228 00:10:57,880 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 1: Saturday was a big teaser, you know, sure, so, uh, 229 00:11:04,040 --> 00:11:06,400 Speaker 1: it was a It was a great Masters. I loved 230 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:11,079 Speaker 1: watching it that and it leads us into what, you know, 231 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:12,679 Speaker 1: what we want to talk about today for the for 232 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 1: the Twitter question that goes on throughout the day, is 233 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 1: it was really moving and what we've seen in that 234 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 1: sporting with Tiger in his personal life and his professional life, 235 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 1: it's pretty compelling to see him win the Masters again 236 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:25,439 Speaker 1: as his first major back after an over over a 237 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 1: ten year drought. Yeah, champions, can I say it is? 238 00:11:28,880 --> 00:11:31,800 Speaker 1: Your colleagues at CBS Sports did a fantastic job and 239 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 1: watching it as I did. You know, after the fact, 240 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: I knew the outcome, I knew how it's to settle, 241 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:38,800 Speaker 1: and I'm watching it thinking why are they showing these 242 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 1: guys at first of all more Tiger and more Tiger, 243 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 1: And then I thought, wait a minute, in real time, 244 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 1: they had at some time points, say at seven or 245 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:48,199 Speaker 1: eight or nine guys yesterday in real time, late in 246 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 1: the afternoon or late in the round who had a 247 00:11:50,720 --> 00:11:53,599 Speaker 1: chance to win, and to their credits CBS did a 248 00:11:53,640 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 1: great job but keeping you all abreast of what everybody 249 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:58,960 Speaker 1: was doing. Even some lesser light too were having great 250 00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 1: rounds in the first group or in the second group, 251 00:12:02,160 --> 00:12:04,719 Speaker 1: and they did a fantastic job. I always felt like 252 00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 1: I knew what the leaderboard was. I mean, I can't 253 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:10,079 Speaker 1: tell you every thirty seconds they showed a leaderboard, but 254 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 1: they had too so you can keep track everybody. I 255 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 1: was really impressed with the way CBS told the story 256 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 1: yesterday in real time as I watched it on replay 257 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:21,959 Speaker 1: last night. The pictures are always great, the insight is 258 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 1: always great. There's a little bit of humor. But I 259 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 1: really thought it was masterful sports television yesterday for the Masters, 260 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 1: I really do. I agree with you that CBS does 261 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 1: a wonderful job. Now they've also obviously had decades of 262 00:12:32,480 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 1: practice of doing it. They work within the lines the 263 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: confines of the Masters tournament that are laid out by 264 00:12:38,400 --> 00:12:40,599 Speaker 1: the by the committee, which is not easy. It is 265 00:12:40,640 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 1: not easy, and it's different, and that's the hard part 266 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 1: for me and the announcers, guys like Nick Faldo and 267 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:48,959 Speaker 1: our guy Andrew Catalan is also on that on that 268 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: broadcast telecast. It's all hands on deck really on the 269 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:54,719 Speaker 1: play by play side of it. They got all the 270 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 1: guys over there, and there's also four or five platforms 271 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 1: that they're broadcasting off, and some of the platforms have 272 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 1: some pretty stark boundaries that they can work within and 273 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:09,680 Speaker 1: and to do a job like they do and keep 274 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: particularly the main broadcast on CBS television, Uh it's Channel 275 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 1: four here in town. It's hard to keep everybody included. 276 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 1: You got a guy like Zander Shaffley who most of 277 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 1: us don't aren't familiar with at all. He's a young, 278 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:30,640 Speaker 1: mid early twenty something kid who's yeah, and he's he's 279 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: in the mix at the end of the Masters, and 280 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:34,720 Speaker 1: we're seeing shots from him because he got a chance. 281 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 1: And then also everybody wants to see, well, what's Tire 282 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 1: going to do? Now? What's you know, where's Phil Mickelson, 283 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 1: where's uh Brooks Kepka And they've got all these names 284 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:47,959 Speaker 1: that they're juggling, and they've had enough experience to pull 285 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: it off pretty seamlessly. They mixed in a couple of 286 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 1: interviews in the Butler cabin during the time, you know 287 00:13:55,040 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 1: where they had Okay Brooks, what do you think of 288 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 1: you're around? He as well. You know I did this 289 00:13:58,160 --> 00:13:59,719 Speaker 1: and he had a chance to you know, when he 290 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 1: had a chance to birdie that last hole and couldn't 291 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 1: get it done, missed the putt. The drama is really 292 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 1: on the course when guys have a chance and then 293 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 1: even with a couple of holes to play, it evaporates. 294 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 1: You could feel the air go out of Francesco Molinari 295 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:18,959 Speaker 1: when he put the ball in the water at twelve. 296 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:21,400 Speaker 1: That's six holes to play. He wasn't out of it. 297 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:23,160 Speaker 1: I mean he just dropped back to the lead or 298 00:14:23,240 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 1: one behind the lead, so he was still in it, 299 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:27,160 Speaker 1: but man, oh man, you could just feel him go away. 300 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 1: That's the interesting thing about golf that I think it 301 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 1: offers a viewer in competition that no other sport does. 302 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 1: Even though the game, you know, there's always that point 303 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 1: where all the game's over. There's three minutes to go 304 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:41,920 Speaker 1: and they're down by four goals in hockey, or they're 305 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 1: down by four touchdowns in the NFL, But in golf, 306 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 1: it seems like it's a slow moving death and that's 307 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 1: I think that's the drama of it. That's CBS, I 308 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 1: think put On. They did a really nice broadcast last 309 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: year the other great thing about Masters on TV the 310 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 1: limited commercial bricks, short commercial breaks, not too many, you 311 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 1: know what I mean. It's eminently watchable when you know 312 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:07,440 Speaker 1: you watch stuff. I mean the NCAA tournament, you know, 313 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 1: you got to sit through a ton of commercial breaks 314 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 1: and they're longer than normal college basketball play in the 315 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 1: super Bowl there. Yeah. Yeah. The Masters is the other way. 316 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 1: The short commercial breaks, very few of them. It was great, 317 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:21,480 Speaker 1: NBA Finals, NHL. Yeah, it's all like that. And I 318 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 1: could go on and on about and I could give 319 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 1: you a couple of them off the top of my 320 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:27,000 Speaker 1: head about the Masters. Even though when you watch the Masters, 321 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 1: the one thing you don't see, and maybe you don't 322 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 1: notice as a result, is the fact that there is 323 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 1: no signage on the course. There's no Mercedes Benz, there's 324 00:15:36,680 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 1: no Rolex, there's no Buick, there's no whatever whatever whatever. 325 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:45,240 Speaker 1: There's none of that on the grounds of the event. 326 00:15:45,600 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 1: No signs, no advertising, nothing. The Cups and even CBS, 327 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 1: I mean, they've got Mike flags on, but you rarely 328 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 1: ever see You see it in the Butler cabin on 329 00:15:57,240 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 1: one on a microphone. That's the only place you'll ever 330 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:03,760 Speaker 1: see the CBS MIC flag or the CBS emblem. You 331 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 1: just don't see it. It is totally about golf and 332 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:11,880 Speaker 1: Augusta National. And it's really interesting when you think about 333 00:16:12,280 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: where we are in this day and age. The only 334 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 1: advertising you see is on the collar or the or 335 00:16:17,400 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 1: the shirts or the hats or the participants. That's the 336 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 1: only place you see advertising. Those guys sponsors when you're 337 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 1: on the grounds. Of course, everybody knows you can't. You 338 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 1: can't have a cell phone on Augusta National. They check it. 339 00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 1: You gotta go through a metal detector. They take your 340 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 1: phone away from you. You got to check it or 341 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 1: leave it at home. If you need to call somebody 342 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 1: at Augusta National, there's a phone there for you. You 343 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 1: go up and you dial the number and it's free. 344 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:45,880 Speaker 1: They got a whole bank of twenty five phones. Just 345 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 1: walk up. You can call Japan if you want to 346 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:50,920 Speaker 1: while you're at the master's and it's totally free of charge. 347 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 1: So all of that stuff makes it different. They've got 348 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 1: security people everywhere that are some in uniforms, some not, 349 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 1: do a multitude of things. They don't allow people to 350 00:17:03,320 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 1: yell at the players. They don't heckling is forbidden. They 351 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 1: don't you can't yell from the top of the gallery 352 00:17:09,640 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 1: down to a player during one of those quiet moments. 353 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:13,680 Speaker 1: You know if they if you do that, there's a 354 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:15,160 Speaker 1: couple of guys up there that make it a lie 355 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 1: contact with each other. Then they pinpoint you and then 356 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:20,280 Speaker 1: they come up and politely ask you not to do that, 357 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:23,199 Speaker 1: and right and it escalates from there. If you're going 358 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 1: to continue to do it, then you know that's gonna 359 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 1: have to be it for you. They and they don't 360 00:17:27,880 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 1: do it in a confrontational way. It's just the way 361 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 1: it is. The restrooms, concession stands are all unique and different, 362 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 1: the pro shop is different. It's all unique and you 363 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 1: have to be there to experience. But if you're a 364 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:43,720 Speaker 1: golf fan, the Masters has to be on your bucket list, 365 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:46,880 Speaker 1: or you're not a golf fan. For if sports fan, 366 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:50,400 Speaker 1: it should still be on your bucket list because it's 367 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 1: that unique of an event. And plus you got to 368 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:55,160 Speaker 1: go to all these other events like the Kentucky Derby, 369 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 1: like the UNA five hundred, like the NBA Finals, like 370 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:03,239 Speaker 1: the NHL Stanley Cup, like the World Series. I've been 371 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:05,239 Speaker 1: to all of that stuff, like the Boston Marathon. I've 372 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 1: been to all of that stuff. Will only by going 373 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 1: to all of that stuff will you go to the 374 00:18:08,600 --> 00:18:11,959 Speaker 1: Masters and notice how unique it is. I just went 375 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,159 Speaker 1: on like on a ramble. Sorry, that's okay, you've been there. 376 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:17,840 Speaker 1: Yesterday's Masters, obviously was a seminal event in this year's 377 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 1: sports calendar. Certainly at the end of the year, people 378 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:22,159 Speaker 1: will be talking about it for years. People will be 379 00:18:22,240 --> 00:18:24,040 Speaker 1: talking about it. People are talking about it today. We 380 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:25,399 Speaker 1: want to talk with you about it a little bit. 381 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:27,479 Speaker 1: And yes, we're trying to relate it a little bit 382 00:18:27,560 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 1: to the NFL, which is really our Baileywick. So here's 383 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 1: the question. It's not a pull on Twitter. The question 384 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:36,440 Speaker 1: we can discuss on the phone lines, discuss on Twitter 385 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 1: eight oh three oh five fifty or toll free one 386 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 1: eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty. And our 387 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 1: Twitter site is one bills Live. If we like your 388 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:46,919 Speaker 1: tweet and we have time, we'll read it on the air. Here. 389 00:18:46,960 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 1: It is fresh off Tiger Woods come back to win 390 00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:52,440 Speaker 1: his fifth Masters tournament, first since two thousand and five. 391 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 1: We ask you this question, what is the best redemption 392 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:59,600 Speaker 1: story in the NFL history? What's the best or current 393 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:02,879 Speaker 1: you can current? What's the best redemption story? In the NFL. 394 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:04,439 Speaker 1: Give us a call, let us know what you think. 395 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:07,880 Speaker 1: Eighth three fifty twenty three one eight eight eight five 396 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 1: fifty two five fifty. If you're a frequent listener to 397 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 1: this show, you know we agonize sometimes over the Twitter 398 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 1: poll question we did today. We had a long, not heated, 399 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 1: but just h this was passing a discussion about this 400 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:23,440 Speaker 1: question and how to frame this question and what we're 401 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 1: really asking. That's a good way to put it. Passionate. 402 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 1: We rarely get heated, particularly with each other, but but 403 00:19:29,520 --> 00:19:33,200 Speaker 1: we do. We do have long conversations about the language, 404 00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:35,920 Speaker 1: the wording, and this was no exception. This was a 405 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:42,199 Speaker 1: this was a long, last minute and this decision. Here's why. Um, 406 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:45,200 Speaker 1: we're thinking about what happened yesterday with Tiger, trying to 407 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 1: relate it to NFL stories, and we're I guess there 408 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:49,399 Speaker 1: was a difference of opinion a little bit on what 409 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 1: exactly was that yesterday. Was it a comeback? Was it 410 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 1: a comeback from injury? Yes, yes it was. He had 411 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 1: tiger head serious back issues that all you know, prevented 412 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:01,199 Speaker 1: him from from walking correctly playing golf again. I mean 413 00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 1: it was it was an injury comeback and that was significant. 414 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:06,480 Speaker 1: That was big yesterday, no question about that. Was it 415 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:12,119 Speaker 1: redemption from misbehavior? Absolutely it was. I mean, not too 416 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 1: long ago, Tiger was was generally regarded as nobody's favorite, right, 417 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:18,480 Speaker 1: I mean, his life was a personal life, was a 418 00:20:18,560 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 1: trainer's family, right, Yeah, which his behavior and he's paid 419 00:20:21,240 --> 00:20:25,720 Speaker 1: the price for that years and it's a redemption from that. 420 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 1: It's a redemption from all the other associated things that 421 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 1: came out of that. You know, well, Tiger did this, 422 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 1: and Tiger did that, and I saw Tiger here, and 423 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,040 Speaker 1: I was with Tiger here, all of that. I mean, 424 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 1: the guy. It was a spectacular and ugly fall from 425 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 1: grace for Tiger Woods in the last ten or twelve years, 426 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 1: and he has redeemed himself to some extent with that 427 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 1: victory yesterday. So our struggle to figure out what exactly 428 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 1: that was yesterday led to today's the fact that it's 429 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 1: not a pole because we don't know who to equate 430 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:55,359 Speaker 1: it to in the NFL. But it led to our 431 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 1: question today, what's the best player redemption story in the 432 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:01,439 Speaker 1: NFL historically or recurrent? If you got somebody, so let 433 00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 1: us know what you think, give us a call. Eight 434 00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 1: oh three five fifty toll free one eight eight eight, 435 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 1: five fifty two five fifty. It is redemption, it is 436 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 1: a comeback, it's an injury comeback. It's redemption. It's um 437 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 1: winning back fans who obviously went away in droves ten 438 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 1: to twelve years ago, Steve. And of course we have 439 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:23,719 Speaker 1: no idea how long this redemption will last. Does he win? 440 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 1: And now he needs what four majors to break Jack 441 00:21:26,920 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 1: Nicholas record? Does he get close to that? Or is 442 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 1: that it is this a one time blip on the screen, 443 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:33,440 Speaker 1: or is this the new Tiger. We don't have that answer. 444 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:36,400 Speaker 1: You may related to the NFL. What's the best player 445 00:21:36,440 --> 00:21:38,040 Speaker 1: redemption story in the NFL? Can I just throw it 446 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 1: a couple of name absolutely ahead? And this is where 447 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 1: he got a little heated, you know, Michael Vick. Michael 448 00:21:42,800 --> 00:21:46,440 Speaker 1: Vick was public enemy number one back right back in 449 00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 1: good reason. Yeah, the dog fighting thing, and he redeemed 450 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 1: himself on the football field. He was even a better 451 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 1: passer when he returned. His redemption came on the playing field. 452 00:21:57,280 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 1: First season back in the league was two thousand and nine. 453 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 1: Three time Pro Bowl quarterback for Atlanta went to jail 454 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,640 Speaker 1: for the dog fighting a conviction, and he came back. 455 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 1: Michael Vick, I think is a serious NFL redemption story. 456 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:11,040 Speaker 1: I think ray Lewis and this is where he got 457 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,480 Speaker 1: a little heated look. Ray Lewis was in deep dark 458 00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:16,400 Speaker 1: trouble back in two thousand the Super Bowl Super Bowl 459 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:20,040 Speaker 1: thirty four in Atlanta. He was indicted on murder charges, 460 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:22,280 Speaker 1: later accepted a deal that forced him instead to plead 461 00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 1: guilty to obstruction of justice since the twelve months probation 462 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 1: find two hundred and fifty thousand dollars by the NFL. 463 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 1: Right after that fact, he came back. He played, He 464 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 1: played well. After that misstep, that bad misstep. He's in 465 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:37,479 Speaker 1: the Pro Football Hall of Fame. Ten years later, won 466 00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl, won a Super Bowl. It wasn't even ten, right, 467 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: it was just a year or two. No, it was 468 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 1: a while. Well, Michael Vick, is a serious redemption story. 469 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 1: I believe redemption for really serious criminal issues. You made 470 00:22:50,760 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 1: a strong case for Peyton Manning as a great redemption 471 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,160 Speaker 1: slash comeback story. A guy who had won a Super 472 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 1: Bowl with a team and still had some football to play, 473 00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:00,880 Speaker 1: but was injured out of football an entire year, went 474 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 1: as a free agent to Denver and set records as 475 00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:07,719 Speaker 1: a passer, came back and then won a Super bolst 476 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 1: a super Bowl, and won a Super Bowl with Denver 477 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 1: after being having it thought that you know, he and 478 00:23:15,240 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl he won with Denver, he couldn't throw 479 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 1: the football twenty five yards. I mean, he was a 480 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 1: shell of his former self and yet got it done. 481 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:31,719 Speaker 1: And that year he had I believe it was twenty twelve, 482 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 1: the year they lost the Super Bowl to the Seattle Seahawks. 483 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:40,520 Speaker 1: Peyton Manning had and the Broncos had probably the best 484 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:45,080 Speaker 1: offensive year arguably in one of them in history. And 485 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 1: that was after he was had multiple neck surgeries and 486 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:53,119 Speaker 1: thought and the team that drafted him and made him 487 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:54,879 Speaker 1: fan he made famous and put on the map and 488 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,760 Speaker 1: had a new stadium built because of his success, they 489 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:03,200 Speaker 1: kicked him to the curb. They didn't resign him, didn't 490 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 1: show any loyalty, put him out there, and he went 491 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 1: to Denver and had a chance to go to three 492 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:11,399 Speaker 1: Super Bowls out of the four years he was there, 493 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 1: and did go to two. So yeah, that's a great 494 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:18,119 Speaker 1: story of redemption that Peyton Manning was the author of. 495 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:19,680 Speaker 1: There are others who we want to hear from you 496 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 1: of your nominations, the best redemption story in the NFL, 497 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:27,160 Speaker 1: in NFL history or the current NFL the tweet sheet 498 00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,600 Speaker 1: from Brian he says, currently it has to be Peyton Manning. 499 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 1: He had similar surgery to Tiger, was out for over 500 00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:35,440 Speaker 1: a year, then came back to the Broncos, set the 501 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 1: touchdound record his first year back, went to two Super Bowls, 502 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 1: winning one. That's exactly what Steve just said. But Jason Harris, 503 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:45,160 Speaker 1: it's not Jay Harris, isn't. I don't think so, Jason Harris, 504 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:49,640 Speaker 1: no relationshion are tweets listened. What Tiger accomplished is far 505 00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 1: more impressive than Peyton Manning. Golf is an individual sport. 506 00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,199 Speaker 1: You can't rely on anyone else to pick you up. 507 00:24:56,240 --> 00:25:00,680 Speaker 1: Ze relevant, Yeah, a little bit, but it's hard. That's 508 00:25:00,720 --> 00:25:02,840 Speaker 1: why it's hard to jump sports because they are It's 509 00:25:02,920 --> 00:25:08,120 Speaker 1: hard to compare the accomplishments of individuals over team exploits. 510 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 1: And then, of course, from Bill's fan extreme Mike Vick. 511 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:13,920 Speaker 1: Without question, he came over. He went from cover of 512 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: Madden O four to being one of the most vilified 513 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 1: athletes on the planet and came back from all that 514 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 1: a better person. I think I can't think of a 515 00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,199 Speaker 1: better redemption story in the NFL than that, in my opinion, 516 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 1: in the NFL. Yeah, you're right, he's in the conversation. 517 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:30,679 Speaker 1: Also from Doug Brett Farve. You remember Brett Farve, right 518 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 1: going to the Vikings winning a division against his old 519 00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:38,520 Speaker 1: team and taking the Vikings to the NFC championship, and 520 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 1: he was you know, that's that's a pretty good story 521 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 1: doing it as a forty plus quarterback in the NFL 522 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:49,800 Speaker 1: after being retired and coming back. Also Jim Plunkett from 523 00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:53,160 Speaker 1: Ray pelowis Jim Plunkett from going from the top draft 524 00:25:53,200 --> 00:25:55,440 Speaker 1: pick to a bust to leading the Raiders to two 525 00:25:55,560 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 1: Super Bowl titles. So there's a there's a short list 526 00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 1: of people who are in the conversation. We've got also 527 00:26:01,320 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 1: people chiming in saying, hey, it was Frank Reich. He 528 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:06,639 Speaker 1: passed over as a head coach a number of times. 529 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 1: He's not the first choice by Indianapolis. I think that 530 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:12,959 Speaker 1: has yet to be redeemed. Certainly he's the head coach Indianapolis. 531 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,679 Speaker 1: Certainly they're very happy to have him. He was their 532 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:21,320 Speaker 1: second choice because of the acceptance then refusal of Josh 533 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 1: McDaniels from New England, and then Frank Wich takes over 534 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,440 Speaker 1: that job in Indianapolis, last minute replacement. He and Andrew 535 00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:32,400 Speaker 1: luck now looked to be on the road to success. 536 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,239 Speaker 1: And I think Indianapolis is really happy they've got him. 537 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 1: And it looks and he's obviously and you're you know, 538 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 1: you're talking to me. You know, I'm the one that 539 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 1: saying this because he's a friend of mine. Yeah, they've 540 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:45,160 Speaker 1: got the right guy. And for me, yeah, I hope 541 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,399 Speaker 1: he does see that the story of redemption. That'll be 542 00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 1: a great story of redemption when he was the second 543 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 1: guy they picked, or just you know, as a fallback position, 544 00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:57,159 Speaker 1: and then to take that team hopefully to some great success, 545 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:59,440 Speaker 1: that'll be a great story, you know. But that's unfinished, 546 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 1: I think, Yeah, I agree with you. It's early in 547 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 1: our show, in this discussion, and we'll have a lot 548 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:05,440 Speaker 1: more of it to come over the next two and 549 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,440 Speaker 1: a half hours. But I don't know we're going to 550 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:10,600 Speaker 1: get to the redemption story that is quite the same 551 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:13,920 Speaker 1: as what happened yesterday with Tiger Woods one. Because of 552 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,680 Speaker 1: the magnitude of who Tiger Woods was back at the 553 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 1: time at his fall from Grace He transcended golf, no 554 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:23,359 Speaker 1: question about that. He transcended sports. He was arguably one 555 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,639 Speaker 1: of the most notable people in the world at the 556 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:31,399 Speaker 1: time right when he crashed and burned, and you'd be 557 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 1: hard pressed. There very few NFL players, very few other 558 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:38,400 Speaker 1: professional athletes who had that sort of statue at any time, 559 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,760 Speaker 1: So that'll be a problem. And his fall was spectacular. 560 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,680 Speaker 1: Steve I read the Tiger Woods biography. I can't remember 561 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 1: who wrote it last summer, but it was amazing. What 562 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:51,680 Speaker 1: of force he was both business wise and endorsement wise 563 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:55,240 Speaker 1: before he got into trouble, and how steep his fall was. 564 00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,120 Speaker 1: And to be honest, and this is illustrated in the book, 565 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 1: wasn't that good a guy? I mean, he didn't treat 566 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,920 Speaker 1: people that well all the time. I think he's redeemed 567 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 1: himself personally. But you know, a lot of golfers, obviously 568 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,119 Speaker 1: jealousy would have been a factor, but a lot of 569 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:10,639 Speaker 1: golfers didn't like the way Tiger was played, didn't like 570 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 1: the way he handled himself, and didn't like the way 571 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:14,879 Speaker 1: he did it went about his business, and that was 572 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:18,240 Speaker 1: like an open secret. I think he's better now according 573 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,520 Speaker 1: to the book. I gotta find the exact I think 574 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 1: the book is Tiger, but I read it last summer, 575 00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 1: and according to that book, he is much more. He's 576 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:30,679 Speaker 1: come a long way in terms of rebuilding his status 577 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:34,200 Speaker 1: among his fellow players. It was a great scene post match, 578 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,639 Speaker 1: and I didn't stay up late beyond one thirty to 579 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 1: watch it. But on his walk up to butler cabin, 580 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 1: when all those other green jacket holders and other players 581 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,480 Speaker 1: were standing there waiting to congratulate him and shake his hand, 582 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 1: I thought to myself, I wonder if these guys would 583 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:48,800 Speaker 1: have been there ten twelve years ago. If Tiger wins it. 584 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 1: That's a good point, you know what I mean. I agree, 585 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,239 Speaker 1: I think that's a that's a good point. We'll never 586 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 1: know the answer to it, but certainly they were there, 587 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 1: and they seemed genuine in their in their appreciation of 588 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 1: what he'd done. All Right, we got a break here. 589 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 1: We'll talk more about this. What's the best redemption story 590 00:29:03,400 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 1: that you know of that you can site in the NFL, 591 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:08,440 Speaker 1: anything compared to what happened with Tiger yesterday? Let us know. 592 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 1: Give us a call. Eight oh three oh five fifty 593 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 1: toll free one eight eight five fifty two five fifty 594 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 1: we're just getting started. Chris Brown Bills Inside Buffalo Bills 595 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 1: dot com. Stan anybody to join us to talk about 596 00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 1: the Bills. Maybe he'll have a thought on this as well. 597 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:22,960 Speaker 1: Come on back One Bills Live from One Bills Drive 598 00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:37,520 Speaker 1: and this is Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back. One goes 599 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 1: live from One Goals Drive. I'm John Murhy's See tasker 600 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 1: and joined by Chris Brown Bills Inside or Buffalo Bills 601 00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:45,360 Speaker 1: dot Com. The draft approaches a week and a half away. 602 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,479 Speaker 1: The offseason conditioning program began today. Happy to have you here, Chris. 603 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 1: I think we'll see a lot of you the next 604 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 1: couple weeks if you're up to it. Are you up 605 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 1: to it? Sure? We love having you on the show. Yeah. Yeah, 606 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:56,920 Speaker 1: we need your insight too because we're you know, we 607 00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 1: don't get to have the chance to go out there 608 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 1: and stand around and watch these guys in their little 609 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 1: you know, and their gym shoes. You're not missing, right, 610 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,880 Speaker 1: but you do it though. I know you did. Saw yeah, 611 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 1: littles and see here's the thing too. And then next 612 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 1: satursdays they start doing that. Then they start competing, right, 613 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 1: They're gonna have captains like Cole Beasley, like Lorenzo Alexander 614 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 1: said he's one of the captains and Cole Beasley is 615 00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,000 Speaker 1: his partner captain, and I don't yeah, and I don't 616 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 1: know who the other two captains are going to be, 617 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,880 Speaker 1: or if there's four captains or whatever. I want to know, 618 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 1: you know how that goes. They draft those guys for 619 00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 1: those teams. I think they do it. No, I can't 620 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:35,280 Speaker 1: remember if they do. If they split it up like 621 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 1: I think they try to split it by body type 622 00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 1: and big guys against little guys, or or you know what, 623 00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 1: they try to make a string O line against first team. 624 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 1: They try to blend. Yeah, they try to burst time 625 00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 1: first team dbs with the second team O line versus 626 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 1: the second team D line and the first team running 627 00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 1: backs that kind of thing, you know. You know what 628 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 1: I mean. They try to blend the because they have 629 00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 1: stuff like tug of war and if you got all 630 00:30:57,600 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 1: the linemen over here, it's gonna be over pretty quick, 631 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And just from a weight 632 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 1: pulling perspective, right, so they even them up, but still 633 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 1: the same by the same token. It's this turns competitive 634 00:31:06,400 --> 00:31:08,560 Speaker 1: pretty quick, and that's where they start playing the team. No, 635 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:10,959 Speaker 1: it does it gets competitive, and you know, they got 636 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,080 Speaker 1: a point system, and you know, I got a leaderboard, 637 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 1: and once you got a leaderboard up on a screen, 638 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 1: guys get pretty competitive. And the lock of trophies I've 639 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 1: seen the Yeah, as you put a scoreboard on it 640 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 1: and start putting names up on the wall. Yeah, the 641 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 1: Fanks come out. It's great. Well, we will talk a 642 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,440 Speaker 1: little bit more about the offseason conditioning, but Chris wants 643 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 1: to weigh in on our Twitter question today deals with 644 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 1: Tiger Woods victory yesterday whatever that was, come back redemption story. 645 00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:43,000 Speaker 1: What's the closest parallel you can find in the National 646 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 1: Football League in NFL history to what Tiger Woods did yesterday. 647 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,720 Speaker 1: I think it's a redemption story yesterday, wasn't it? Yeah? 648 00:31:49,760 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 1: I guess I would say that ye have a injury comeback. 649 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:56,240 Speaker 1: It's more than yes, it is, right, Yeah, here it is. Yeah. 650 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,360 Speaker 1: And I mean everybody can debate how he's kind of 651 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 1: cleaned up his act off the field, but you know, 652 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,680 Speaker 1: because nobody knows because he's kept that pretty personal and 653 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 1: understandably so. But um, I think the guy could barely 654 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 1: He couldn't even play golf, right, I mean, his back 655 00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 1: was so bad he couldn't even play. Yeah, he couldn't. 656 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:15,480 Speaker 1: He couldn't move around, he couldn't go out of his chair, 657 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, that's it was bad. So our 658 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 1: Twitter question today and we're taking comments on this on 659 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 1: the phones and on Twitter. Uh, fresh off Tiger Woods, 660 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 1: come back to win the Masters yesterday. What's the best 661 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:31,200 Speaker 1: redemption story in the NFL? You got, you got one? Yeah? 662 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 1: Mine is Adrian Peterson twenty twelve, tears his ACL less 663 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,080 Speaker 1: than seven months later, he's back on the field and 664 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,960 Speaker 1: then goes out and wins NFL MVP and Offensive MVP, 665 00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 1: rushes for twenty one hundred and nine yards, seven yards 666 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:47,320 Speaker 1: short of Eric Dickerson's all time single season rushing mark. 667 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 1: That's pretty damn good one. That's I mean, it's pretty good. 668 00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:54,480 Speaker 1: That's that's redemption with a capital R. That's a really 669 00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:57,720 Speaker 1: good one. Any Annie beat out Peyton Manning, who was 670 00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 1: coming back that same year from the next surgery and 671 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 1: had a fantastic offensive season Peterson, Peterson beats him out 672 00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 1: for Offensive Player of the Year end MVP with a 673 00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,239 Speaker 1: knee and Jade Man's gotta be at that banquet going, 674 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:13,520 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, are you kidding? Men? The year I 675 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,560 Speaker 1: put together and this guy does that seven yards shy 676 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 1: at Eric Dickerson's single season all time rushing reck seven 677 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:22,840 Speaker 1: months after the season starts, seven months after he yeah, 678 00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,360 Speaker 1: after he's catastrophic knee injury. At the age, I mean, 679 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 1: the guy's the age of like ninety two, right, guy's 680 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,560 Speaker 1: a freak. But I mean I think everybody he was 681 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 1: he was like a thirty. No, he wasn't that all. 682 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 1: He was in the O seven draft, so it was 683 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 1: only his fifth or six year in the league. But 684 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,280 Speaker 1: are you talking about Pete Manning. I'm talking about Adrian 685 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,800 Speaker 1: Peter Peterson was seven draft. I'm almost positive. Okay, so 686 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 1: he was still in the middle of it. Yeah, okay, 687 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 1: he was just hitting his prime, which certainly helped his 688 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:51,000 Speaker 1: cause for sure. But seven months after an ACL and 689 00:33:51,040 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 1: you're playing running back, I mean, hello, that's technology for you, 690 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:59,040 Speaker 1: and then that's jeans. Yeah yeah, and that's a lot. Yeah, 691 00:33:59,240 --> 00:34:01,800 Speaker 1: and you know that you're right, You're right, it's it's 692 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 1: amazing condemption with the capital ar Russian one rushing for 693 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 1: that is are you thinking at all? And this is 694 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,800 Speaker 1: not this is not pleasant, but about his kind of 695 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:13,279 Speaker 1: a minimal suspension for the way he disciplined his son, right, Yeah, 696 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 1: with switching. Is that part of your calculation and redemption? 697 00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:19,839 Speaker 1: Because no, because I don't think that was an issue yet. 698 00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:21,840 Speaker 1: I don't think that had come up in twenty thirteen. 699 00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:23,640 Speaker 1: I want to say that was just a few years ago. 700 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:27,560 Speaker 1: It was like, yeah, the following year, so now following year. 701 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:31,040 Speaker 1: So now he's on a roller and uh, look out, 702 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 1: it's nice back to the bottom. I got you. Yeah. Well, 703 00:34:34,160 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 1: Steve U saw one on Twitter that is interesting in 704 00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:39,440 Speaker 1: Bills really absolutely. You know, you think about a guy 705 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 1: that used to play for the Buffalo Bills. There's a couple. 706 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,400 Speaker 1: One just recently is Richie Incognito. You think I got 707 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 1: a guy who has his demons and and was out 708 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 1: of football for being, you know, having anger issues and 709 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 1: having the bullying issues that he did in the Miami Dolphins, 710 00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:58,160 Speaker 1: out of the league and people he was. You talk 711 00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,360 Speaker 1: about a guy that took some heat first two or 712 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 1: three weeks, Yeah, he was. He was probably Kademy number one. 713 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,880 Speaker 1: He would and he was everything that the NFL didn't 714 00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:10,640 Speaker 1: want itself to be. You know, They've got all these big, strong, 715 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:14,800 Speaker 1: athletic guys here, uh, and to have have them portrayed 716 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,959 Speaker 1: in this light was really bad for the National Football League. 717 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:22,880 Speaker 1: Richie looked horrible in it. Uh. With the incident that 718 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 1: happened with the bullying of Jonathan Martin, one of his teammates, 719 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:27,839 Speaker 1: he was out of football for an entire year, comes back, 720 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:31,080 Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills give him like this lifeline, which is 721 00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:32,800 Speaker 1: a one year deal, right. I mean it was just 722 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,320 Speaker 1: a you know, okay, you can, we'll give you a 723 00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,480 Speaker 1: shot kind of thing. And he comes in and goes 724 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:43,200 Speaker 1: to the Pro Bowl and stayed here for a couple 725 00:35:43,239 --> 00:35:45,879 Speaker 1: of years and was a beloved member of the team. 726 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:49,000 Speaker 1: I mean, Lashawn McCoy loved the guy. So it was 727 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,000 Speaker 1: it was one of those guys that got another chance 728 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:53,719 Speaker 1: and made the most of it. Now he's you know, 729 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:55,920 Speaker 1: he's out of the league now because and he retired 730 00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:58,279 Speaker 1: because of his body was failing. But and he's had 731 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,000 Speaker 1: his issues since then. But to see a guy come 732 00:36:01,040 --> 00:36:03,840 Speaker 1: back and put together a few good years after the 733 00:36:03,960 --> 00:36:05,960 Speaker 1: stretch that we all saw and went to that public 734 00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 1: the public drop that happened, Wow, that's pretty throw you 735 00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:15,279 Speaker 1: throw Willis mcgahey in there too. I mean there was 736 00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,480 Speaker 1: an injury comeback. Yeah, I mean the knee just got 737 00:36:17,600 --> 00:36:20,839 Speaker 1: completely I don't think anybody's seen a knee blown up 738 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 1: like that in a long time. I mean, every ligament 739 00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:28,360 Speaker 1: in his knee was destroyed. And to come back in 740 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 1: the I mean he didn't play his rookie here as 741 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:31,840 Speaker 1: we all know because that was here. But then in 742 00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:33,880 Speaker 1: O four to go for eleven hundred yards and was 743 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 1: twenty four touch He had a ten year career plus 744 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,120 Speaker 1: in the NFL after having a knee injury, Like the 745 00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:40,960 Speaker 1: guy would have been a top three pick in the 746 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,520 Speaker 1: draft if he did. And listen, this is the worst 747 00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:45,640 Speaker 1: possible case scenario. And this is always one of those 748 00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:47,400 Speaker 1: they bring up when you see these kids saying it 749 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:49,919 Speaker 1: like like Nick Bosa this year, didn't play the last 750 00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,880 Speaker 1: his senior year because he's junior year, because you know, 751 00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:56,080 Speaker 1: he didn't want to get hurt. Willis mcgahey in the 752 00:36:56,200 --> 00:37:00,000 Speaker 1: National Championship Game January first or second, whenever they were playing, 753 00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:06,440 Speaker 1: and gets his knee injured in one of those plays 754 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:10,360 Speaker 1: where they don't even want to show the replay. It 755 00:37:10,640 --> 00:37:15,719 Speaker 1: was horrific, and you just knew that he was never 756 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,040 Speaker 1: going to be the same and it was going to 757 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,200 Speaker 1: it had a chance to cost him all this money 758 00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,120 Speaker 1: in this career, we were never going to get to 759 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:23,680 Speaker 1: see him play the way you know, it looked like 760 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:25,440 Speaker 1: he was going to be able to play. And to 761 00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:28,080 Speaker 1: see him come back and put together a very very 762 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:31,040 Speaker 1: good professional career after that is that is a good one. 763 00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:33,600 Speaker 1: Willis mcgaye. He's a great one. We'll talk more about 764 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:35,359 Speaker 1: this redemption story thing, Chris, but there are a couple 765 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,120 Speaker 1: of other issues we want to go through with you, 766 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,720 Speaker 1: including we talked about the return of the players offseason conditioning, 767 00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:42,719 Speaker 1: and the vocal point is going to be the brand 768 00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:45,360 Speaker 1: new player development center. They cut the ribbon on Friday. 769 00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:47,600 Speaker 1: Players are in there today. What role do you think 770 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:51,279 Speaker 1: that room, that weight room, that that player performance center, 771 00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,279 Speaker 1: What role will that play over the next six, eight weeks, 772 00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:56,760 Speaker 1: a couple of months here. It certainly has them motivated 773 00:37:56,800 --> 00:37:59,360 Speaker 1: to get in there. Those guys are in there taking pictures. 774 00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:01,719 Speaker 1: I mean they're going into the weight room with their 775 00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:03,839 Speaker 1: phones to be like, holy cow, look at this place. 776 00:38:04,200 --> 00:38:07,040 Speaker 1: I mean it is I wrote this on Buffalo bills 777 00:38:07,080 --> 00:38:08,600 Speaker 1: dot com where we have a long ride up in 778 00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,800 Speaker 1: some comment from Kim Pogoula on the facility that you 779 00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:15,000 Speaker 1: know her and Terry pretty much paid for out of 780 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:18,040 Speaker 1: their own pocket. I mean, and I think people forget 781 00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:21,120 Speaker 1: there's been a lot of personal investment by the Pagoulas 782 00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:23,879 Speaker 1: around here since they became owners, whether you're talking about 783 00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:29,240 Speaker 1: redesigning and expanding the team locker room, the grass field expansion, 784 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,440 Speaker 1: the purchase of land out here just on the outside 785 00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:33,200 Speaker 1: of the field house. I mean, they tripled the size 786 00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:36,200 Speaker 1: of the grass field, you know that they have out 787 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:40,279 Speaker 1: there for practice. The training room got completely redesigned a 788 00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:42,680 Speaker 1: few years ago, you know. And now this, and as 789 00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:44,640 Speaker 1: I said in the write up, this is the crown 790 00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:46,960 Speaker 1: jewel of all of those improvements. In my estimation, that 791 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,840 Speaker 1: place is a palace in there. And as a player, 792 00:38:50,600 --> 00:38:53,360 Speaker 1: just talking to some of them, they can't help but 793 00:38:53,719 --> 00:39:00,360 Speaker 1: feel that their performance on the field means something to 794 00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:03,080 Speaker 1: this organization. They want them to be the best they 795 00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:04,799 Speaker 1: can be. But I think Kim took it a step 796 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:06,560 Speaker 1: further when I talked to her last week after the 797 00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:10,560 Speaker 1: ribbon cutting ceremony, she said, we want these players to 798 00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:12,799 Speaker 1: be the best they can be, have the best life 799 00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:15,759 Speaker 1: they can have, even after their career is done. We 800 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:18,799 Speaker 1: want that for all the players that walk through these doors, 801 00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:20,879 Speaker 1: whether we have them for a week, a month, a year, 802 00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,839 Speaker 1: or their entire career. We want them to leave here 803 00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,920 Speaker 1: better than they came in. And this performance center is 804 00:39:26,960 --> 00:39:30,279 Speaker 1: going to do that. Not just from a weightlifting an 805 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:33,839 Speaker 1: old school training perspective, but I mean we're talking red 806 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:35,880 Speaker 1: light therapy. I mean even know what that is. It 807 00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:39,200 Speaker 1: looks like a tanning bed, and the red light therapy 808 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:44,320 Speaker 1: kind of reverses the effects of aging. It's got documented 809 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:48,279 Speaker 1: proof to do that. I mean those I'm telling you 810 00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:49,560 Speaker 1: right now. I want to get in there because it 811 00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:53,719 Speaker 1: also grows hair. But that's a whole other thing as 812 00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:55,279 Speaker 1: long as I don't want to hear in my back. 813 00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:56,640 Speaker 1: But I mean, here on my head is what I'm 814 00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:58,080 Speaker 1: looking for. Maybe I could just stick my head at 815 00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:02,480 Speaker 1: information anyway. But then they have the cryotherapy chamber. They 816 00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,280 Speaker 1: have the cryotherapy chamber. They have a new therapy pool 817 00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:07,880 Speaker 1: that has a treadmill that runs on the bottom of it. 818 00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:10,680 Speaker 1: Where you know a player coming off an ACL injury, 819 00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:12,680 Speaker 1: they're not allowed to run under their own body weight. 820 00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:15,040 Speaker 1: Well you put them in the pool and the buoyancy 821 00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:17,200 Speaker 1: allows them to get back into that running motion that 822 00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:19,279 Speaker 1: much sooner. Three hundred pound guy can run like one 823 00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:22,279 Speaker 1: hundred and ten pound guy. Yeah in there, which they 824 00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:24,680 Speaker 1: could be cleared to do on their knee after four months, 825 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:28,840 Speaker 1: but not you know, in a regular setting and development 826 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,320 Speaker 1: muscle developments. When they get back out, they have fewer setbacks. 827 00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:34,680 Speaker 1: And they have acupuncture room. They've got unbelievable, they've got 828 00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:36,880 Speaker 1: a massage room. I mean, these guys used to have 829 00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:40,120 Speaker 1: to leave the facility to go and get a massage themselves, right, 830 00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:42,920 Speaker 1: or go to an acupuct themselves, or go to a 831 00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:45,759 Speaker 1: yoga session outside where you know, they're out in the 832 00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:48,040 Speaker 1: public taking a yoga class like anybody else. That's all 833 00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:50,960 Speaker 1: here now and they don't have to do everything, but 834 00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,920 Speaker 1: the fact that they have options where they can kind 835 00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:57,440 Speaker 1: of custom make their own workouts to what they I mean, 836 00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:00,440 Speaker 1: Like Lorenzo Alexandra is one of the most routine oriented 837 00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:03,879 Speaker 1: guys you're going to find here among the players, all 838 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,000 Speaker 1: the way down to his cup of coffee at eight 839 00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:07,600 Speaker 1: o'clock in the morning on a game day that he 840 00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:10,279 Speaker 1: takes on the bus with him to the stadium. He 841 00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,640 Speaker 1: is super regimented, but there's enough here where he doesn't 842 00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:15,680 Speaker 1: have to go off site anymore and do the pilates 843 00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,560 Speaker 1: like he usually does. He can do that here, and 844 00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:21,560 Speaker 1: then what takes it to the next level is the 845 00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:25,279 Speaker 1: sports science area. There is so much testing that they 846 00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:27,160 Speaker 1: can do on each of these players where they can 847 00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,480 Speaker 1: get it down to the individual guy and say, look, 848 00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:33,279 Speaker 1: this is the kind of work you need to incorporate 849 00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:38,160 Speaker 1: into your regiment for injury prevention and to maximize your 850 00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:42,480 Speaker 1: body type in this sport. And so to have it 851 00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:46,040 Speaker 1: so cut and dry for every player to see on paper, 852 00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:49,480 Speaker 1: this is the best workout regiment for me, not just 853 00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:53,120 Speaker 1: defensive backs because I play a corner. For me based 854 00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:56,799 Speaker 1: on my height, weight, body type, body mass index, fat, 855 00:41:56,920 --> 00:41:59,560 Speaker 1: body fat percentage, all of that. It does it all 856 00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,400 Speaker 1: from each guy. It's the technology behind it that that 857 00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:05,080 Speaker 1: makes it a difference. And here's the here's the crux 858 00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:09,959 Speaker 1: of the entire problem and why they're so far. There's 859 00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:12,720 Speaker 1: so much further down the road here, I think than many, 860 00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,200 Speaker 1: if not all, the other teams in the league. You've 861 00:42:15,239 --> 00:42:17,400 Speaker 1: got their their philosophy and their culture. And we have 862 00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:19,680 Speaker 1: Lorenzo in here all the time. And Lorenzo, like you like, 863 00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:21,719 Speaker 1: he's the easy example at the top of your head 864 00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:24,520 Speaker 1: because he has bought into it. He transformed his body 865 00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,080 Speaker 1: to stay in the league. He knows what it means 866 00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:29,880 Speaker 1: to see the connection between what he eats, what he drinks, 867 00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:32,680 Speaker 1: how he exercises, to the success he has on the field. 868 00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:35,720 Speaker 1: A lot of young guys that come in the league, 869 00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,400 Speaker 1: they've always been the fastest, always been the strongest, always 870 00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:40,960 Speaker 1: been the best athlete, always all the way through Division 871 00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:43,359 Speaker 1: one football at the highest level they can at coming 872 00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:47,359 Speaker 1: into this, they have never had to eat right, lift right, 873 00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:51,080 Speaker 1: run right, and get all this other stuff done before 874 00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:53,400 Speaker 1: they experience the wear and tear that the NFL is. 875 00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:56,160 Speaker 1: But plus they've never seen anybody else who had now now, 876 00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:58,880 Speaker 1: and it used to be you'd have guys like Lorenzo 877 00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:01,000 Speaker 1: around and just worked this way up until this year too, 878 00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,239 Speaker 1: learns grab a guy said, hey, you need to you're 879 00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:06,120 Speaker 1: having trouble here. You need to try and you get 880 00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:09,720 Speaker 1: a massage on a Thursday to get ready for the weekend, 881 00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:11,760 Speaker 1: or to have you ready in the right way on Sunday, 882 00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:13,160 Speaker 1: that kind of thing. So there's a lot of it 883 00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,120 Speaker 1: going in and to see the connection, it starts at 884 00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:19,680 Speaker 1: the top. The coaching staff, the strength conditioning staff, the 885 00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:22,920 Speaker 1: medical staff, the training staff, sports science staff. Sports science 886 00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:26,040 Speaker 1: staff have to get Kim and Terry to see the 887 00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:29,200 Speaker 1: connection between that and wins on the field and get 888 00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:31,400 Speaker 1: that connection. It's just like the players. You have to 889 00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:33,400 Speaker 1: teach these young players to see the connection between what 890 00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,200 Speaker 1: happens in this building and making them better on the field. 891 00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,480 Speaker 1: And once you do that, and you can see the difference, 892 00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:42,239 Speaker 1: and it's and starts at the top. And you said it, 893 00:43:43,480 --> 00:43:45,800 Speaker 1: this ownerships on board, you can see it. Let's go. 894 00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:49,719 Speaker 1: They spare no expense. And that's that's the cool part 895 00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:52,680 Speaker 1: about it. They when they're on board, everybody's on board, 896 00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:54,960 Speaker 1: and that's that's pretty awesome. That's one more question. We're 897 00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,279 Speaker 1: running out of time here, Chris. Different topic. You wrote 898 00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,920 Speaker 1: about it though, and it's a topic that Great cosellman 899 00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:02,239 Speaker 1: tone or show a couple of fridays ago. We're talking 900 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:04,960 Speaker 1: about offensive lineman in the draft. We asked the question 901 00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,160 Speaker 1: as if, well, are they still in the market for 902 00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:10,719 Speaker 1: old lineman with everything they've done in free agency. Great 903 00:44:10,800 --> 00:44:13,160 Speaker 1: kind of convinced me that yeah, they probably should be, 904 00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:16,759 Speaker 1: based on who they have and what they have still available. 905 00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:19,600 Speaker 1: Give me your take on that. I mean, they still 906 00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:24,160 Speaker 1: could use a premium first round, top ten offensive tackle 907 00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:28,120 Speaker 1: prospect on this roster, couldn't they Yeah, tackle, you know, 908 00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:30,440 Speaker 1: if it's not in the first round, I think the 909 00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,279 Speaker 1: value swings to the interior. Though after that, you know, 910 00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:36,400 Speaker 1: rounds two through five are really good at the guard position, 911 00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:39,239 Speaker 1: and so I don't think it necessarily has to be 912 00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:42,440 Speaker 1: a tackle. But the fact is that, you know, yes, 913 00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:44,279 Speaker 1: Lee Adrian waddles here, but he's here on a one 914 00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:48,440 Speaker 1: year contract. What happens after this year? Dion Dawkins is 915 00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:50,239 Speaker 1: in the year three of a four year deal, and 916 00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:52,480 Speaker 1: Tie and Seki only signed a two year contract. You 917 00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:55,960 Speaker 1: don't have people locked up long term at those positions. 918 00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:58,560 Speaker 1: If you brought a rookie in of high regard and 919 00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:02,440 Speaker 1: repute then and you know you've got somebody locked up 920 00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:04,759 Speaker 1: for at least four years. You know that can grow 921 00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:08,160 Speaker 1: with this program as it moves forward. So I don't 922 00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:12,360 Speaker 1: think you can rule out an offensive tackle early. But 923 00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:14,439 Speaker 1: if it doesn't happen in the first round, I don't 924 00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:17,080 Speaker 1: think fans should have their you know, underwear and a 925 00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:19,960 Speaker 1: not over it, because there is I'm telling you right now, 926 00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:24,000 Speaker 1: at almost every position in this draft, with a few exceptions, cornerback, 927 00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:28,200 Speaker 1: running back, maybe a couple of others. The meat and 928 00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:31,800 Speaker 1: potatoes of this draft. Round two through five is really 929 00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:36,640 Speaker 1: good at a lot of positions. Guard, tight end, wide receiver, 930 00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:41,880 Speaker 1: offensive tackle, defensive line. I mean, there's gonna be a 931 00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:45,279 Speaker 1: lot of good picks on Day two and early Day three, 932 00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:47,800 Speaker 1: players that are gonna play eight ten years in this 933 00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,720 Speaker 1: league and have a good career, that are gonna help teams. 934 00:45:51,080 --> 00:45:53,680 Speaker 1: And that's really the strength of this draft. The middle 935 00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,920 Speaker 1: rounds at a lot of positions. I mean, it's limited 936 00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:59,080 Speaker 1: at the top in some area like wide receiver. I 937 00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:02,359 Speaker 1: don't think there's a lot of top end wide receiver talent. 938 00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:03,840 Speaker 1: You may only give one or two guys in the 939 00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:08,160 Speaker 1: first round offensive tackles. Maybe there's four in the first round. 940 00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:13,040 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe, I mean unless there's an early run and 941 00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:15,359 Speaker 1: maybe there's five. But I think you're looking at three 942 00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:18,120 Speaker 1: or four otis in the first round. H and then 943 00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:21,160 Speaker 1: after that it gets it gets interesting. But that's probably 944 00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:23,640 Speaker 1: what you're probably what you're looking at. We've got more 945 00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:25,799 Speaker 1: draft talk for you. Can we do it next week 946 00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:27,640 Speaker 1: before the draft? We have time next week, right, Are 947 00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:29,320 Speaker 1: you gonna be totally booked? You won't be able to 948 00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:32,120 Speaker 1: I'm on, I'm on vacation early next Yeah, who takes 949 00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:34,800 Speaker 1: vacation on draft week me because that's that's when my 950 00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,560 Speaker 1: kids are out of school. Oh you go, all right, 951 00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:39,200 Speaker 1: we'll get you in here. Thanks Chris, Thank you got 952 00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:42,000 Speaker 1: me Chris Brown, Bills Inside or Buffalo Bills dot Com. Steve, 953 00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:44,520 Speaker 1: when I coming back one Bills from One Bill's Drive 954 00:46:44,600 --> 00:47:01,120 Speaker 1: on Buffalo Bills Radio. Why Mill Slide from one Mills 955 00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:03,840 Speaker 1: Drive or coming to you from our one Buffalo studio 956 00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:06,680 Speaker 1: on a snowy day. But I gonna you're right, it's 957 00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:13,120 Speaker 1: no point talking about the weather. It's a little don't lose. 958 00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:18,920 Speaker 1: We're almost there where they should be, you know what 959 00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:22,000 Speaker 1: I mean. Hey, um, We've got a lot going on 960 00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:24,320 Speaker 1: here today. We got first day back for the offseason 961 00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:26,520 Speaker 1: conditioning program. We're gonna hear from some of the players, 962 00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,239 Speaker 1: Tremaine Edmunds, Josh Allen, a couple of others. That's coming 963 00:47:29,320 --> 00:47:31,440 Speaker 1: up in the next hour of the show. Some draft talk. 964 00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:34,320 Speaker 1: A draft preview with Dan Shaka, editor and publisher of 965 00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:38,440 Speaker 1: Our Lads Guide to the two nineteen NFL Draft. Our 966 00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:41,439 Speaker 1: topic today turns out getting pretty good response. We weren't 967 00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:44,279 Speaker 1: sure about it. We agonized over Yeah, we were. We 968 00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:47,040 Speaker 1: were cutting veins in there and bleeding. We were agonized 969 00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:48,680 Speaker 1: over it was. It was this is a hard topic 970 00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:51,640 Speaker 1: to come up with because we couldn't get it the way. Yeah, 971 00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:54,719 Speaker 1: I wanted it, but I couldn't get at the one 972 00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:57,279 Speaker 1: and I was fighting at tooth and nail. But we 973 00:47:57,400 --> 00:48:00,600 Speaker 1: got the best redemption story. We got tiger Wood Yesterday. Redemption. Right, 974 00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:03,320 Speaker 1: it's mostly a redemption story, right, injury come back, a 975 00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:06,200 Speaker 1: lot going on in his personal life. He redeemed himself 976 00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:08,359 Speaker 1: with his victory and the Masters yesterday. It's the best 977 00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:10,040 Speaker 1: redemption story in the NFL. We got a lot of 978 00:48:10,080 --> 00:48:11,759 Speaker 1: good response, some of it on the tweets. Here, all right, 979 00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:14,000 Speaker 1: he goes, he's from Brian Moss. I'd vote Kurt Warner 980 00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:17,279 Speaker 1: from arena ball and bagging groceries to playing in Super Bowls, 981 00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:20,200 Speaker 1: winning three time MVP, then to the Hall of Fame. Yeah, 982 00:48:20,280 --> 00:48:22,319 Speaker 1: I get Kurt Warner. But here I don't think he's 983 00:48:22,320 --> 00:48:24,200 Speaker 1: as much as a redemption story as it is just 984 00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:29,240 Speaker 1: slow start to a career. He was in the NFL 985 00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:31,640 Speaker 1: for a minute and ninety four with the Green Bay Packers, 986 00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:33,840 Speaker 1: didn't make it, went around, banged around in the in 987 00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:36,320 Speaker 1: the Arena League and the NFL Europe came back and 988 00:48:36,440 --> 00:48:39,640 Speaker 1: got a job with the Saints, with the Rams, and 989 00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:42,480 Speaker 1: then due to injury, got his chance to play and 990 00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:44,120 Speaker 1: of course knocked it out of the park and put 991 00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:45,640 Speaker 1: himself in the Hall of Fame as a result. I 992 00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:47,279 Speaker 1: think it was a slow start to his career rather 993 00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:51,040 Speaker 1: than redemption. I think next listen, he's a great dude, 994 00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:53,320 Speaker 1: and that's a great story, no question about it. But 995 00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:57,160 Speaker 1: I think as far as redemption, just having a slow 996 00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:58,680 Speaker 1: start to your career and getting cut by a team. 997 00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:03,080 Speaker 1: That's you know, that's happened too most players. Yeah, this 998 00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:05,160 Speaker 1: next one is really good and I never would have 999 00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,000 Speaker 1: thought of it. It's from on the tweet sheet from 1000 00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:11,080 Speaker 1: mister mfc K fifty eight. Although he never returned to 1001 00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:14,600 Speaker 1: a roster, he writes, he tweets Ryan Leaf has turned 1002 00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:17,360 Speaker 1: his life around and spreads his message to later generations 1003 00:49:17,360 --> 00:49:19,319 Speaker 1: of NFL players. That's a really good point. You talked 1004 00:49:19,320 --> 00:49:20,600 Speaker 1: to him Ian Leave at the Super Bowl a couple 1005 00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:22,759 Speaker 1: of years ago, right, he does. He is a completely 1006 00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:26,440 Speaker 1: different guy. I spoke to him the first time he 1007 00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:28,960 Speaker 1: was playing in an NFL game. That was opening weekend 1008 00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:32,120 Speaker 1: of nineteen ninety eight against the Buffalo Bills in San Diego. 1009 00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:35,960 Speaker 1: There were four quarterbacks on both on the whole field 1010 00:49:36,040 --> 00:49:40,359 Speaker 1: at two for Buffalo, two four San Diego. All four 1011 00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:42,480 Speaker 1: guys got on the field. Ryan Leaf it was his 1012 00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:45,280 Speaker 1: first start and all that for the San Diego Chargers. 1013 00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:48,800 Speaker 1: Both guys got nicked up, and Ryan Leaf was you 1014 00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:51,400 Speaker 1: could tell he had a lot of issues he was 1015 00:49:51,480 --> 00:49:53,759 Speaker 1: dealing with. He was not He was not a great 1016 00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:57,920 Speaker 1: leader at that time. He was. He was an enabled 1017 00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:03,880 Speaker 1: u finger pointer, never took responsibility. It was never his 1018 00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:06,200 Speaker 1: fault kind of guy, and he just didn't had never 1019 00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:08,440 Speaker 1: been put in a position of responsibility where he had 1020 00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:11,399 Speaker 1: to own what he did. And it showed very much 1021 00:50:11,600 --> 00:50:13,959 Speaker 1: in his production meeting with us and on the field, 1022 00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:16,239 Speaker 1: and of course he flamed out very quickly with San 1023 00:50:16,320 --> 00:50:19,440 Speaker 1: Diego and never got back into the league as a result. 1024 00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:23,319 Speaker 1: So but now, but now, when we spoke to him 1025 00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:25,520 Speaker 1: list last year, which is you know, twenty years later, 1026 00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:29,560 Speaker 1: he is a completely different guy. He's and he hasn't 1027 00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:32,040 Speaker 1: got it all together and he'll had but now he 1028 00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:34,520 Speaker 1: admits it and he also owns what he's done and 1029 00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:37,160 Speaker 1: his life and where he's been. So it's it is 1030 00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:39,080 Speaker 1: a good story. That's and that's a that's a good 1031 00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:42,920 Speaker 1: a good get really good idea best redemption sore in 1032 00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:45,959 Speaker 1: the NFL. Will continue this discussion as the afternoon rolls along. 1033 00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:48,080 Speaker 1: Coming up next, we're gonna hear from some of the players. 1034 00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:50,319 Speaker 1: Some of the Bills players we're at the podium today 1035 00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:54,000 Speaker 1: speaking after their first day of offseason conditioning. That's coming 1036 00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:56,279 Speaker 1: up when we return One Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive. 1037 00:50:56,520 --> 00:51:11,840 Speaker 1: This says Buffalo Bills Radio Bills Radio Network Stories update. 1038 00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:15,040 Speaker 1: The update from One Bills Drive. The Bills, many of them, 1039 00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:18,320 Speaker 1: have returned to One Bill's Drive for the offseason conditioning program. 1040 00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:21,759 Speaker 1: Phase one began today and conditioning and strength workouts. No 1041 00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:24,319 Speaker 1: position will work allowed, a little bit of meeting time, 1042 00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:26,600 Speaker 1: and a couple of players meeting with the media as 1043 00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:28,360 Speaker 1: we speak. We'll hear from some of them in the 1044 00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:30,440 Speaker 1: next hour or so. The Bills day one of their 1045 00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:34,200 Speaker 1: offseason conditioning program first two weeks is just conditioning only. 1046 00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:37,120 Speaker 1: Bill's reportedly are going to meet with the top defensive 1047 00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:40,520 Speaker 1: tackle in this year's NFL draft. ESPN says the Bills 1048 00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:43,280 Speaker 1: have a visit schedule today with Quinn and Williams from Alabama. 1049 00:51:43,560 --> 00:51:46,560 Speaker 1: They'll reportedly make also visits to the Giants and the Jets. 1050 00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:49,200 Speaker 1: With the Bills are gonna get Quinn and Williams, they'd 1051 00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:51,279 Speaker 1: likely have to move up from their current spot on 1052 00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:53,520 Speaker 1: the draft number nine in the first round, which is 1053 00:51:53,640 --> 00:51:55,960 Speaker 1: where they're scheduled to go in the first round. Bills 1054 00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:58,880 Speaker 1: looking for some defensive line help with the retiring of 1055 00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:02,040 Speaker 1: Kyle Williams stop season. Quinn and Williams meeting with the 1056 00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:05,240 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills today. The report in Seattle says star quarterback 1057 00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:08,320 Speaker 1: Russell Wilson reportedly does not intend to sign a contract 1058 00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:10,920 Speaker 1: extension with the Hawks if the two sides cannot reach 1059 00:52:10,960 --> 00:52:14,600 Speaker 1: an agreement prior to his deadline of midnight today. That's 1060 00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:18,000 Speaker 1: according to ESPN. According to Adam Schefter, discussions over a 1061 00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:20,000 Speaker 1: new deal are ongoing in an effort to reach a 1062 00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:24,000 Speaker 1: new deal before the deadline. Hockey, the Rochester Americans are 1063 00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:26,839 Speaker 1: going to host the Toronto Marley's on Friday, Blue Cross 1064 00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:29,400 Speaker 1: Arena in Rochester, game one of the Calder Cup playoffs. 1065 00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:32,040 Speaker 1: Rochester wrapped up their regular season over the weekend with 1066 00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:35,440 Speaker 1: back to back wins, and the Minnesota Duluth Bulldogs won 1067 00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:38,960 Speaker 1: the Frozen Four the NCAA National Championship. Here in Buffalo 1068 00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:42,279 Speaker 1: on Saturday with the victory over UMass at Key Bank Center. 1069 00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:45,200 Speaker 1: Bison's got swept in Scranton over the weekend. They've lost 1070 00:52:45,239 --> 00:52:47,520 Speaker 1: seven in a row now they heard lost nine five 1071 00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:49,920 Speaker 1: to the rail Riders. Yesterday they opened a three game 1072 00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:53,319 Speaker 1: series in Pawtucket against the Red Sox. Red Sox tonight 1073 00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:56,680 Speaker 1: six oh five. Righthander Jacob wages Pac gets the start 1074 00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:59,560 Speaker 1: for the Buffalo Bisons. And that's the update from one 1075 00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:02,080 Speaker 1: bills right, John Murphy, Steve Tasker our number two of 1076 00:53:02,120 --> 00:53:04,359 Speaker 1: the show, welcome back, having a good discussion. I think 1077 00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:06,120 Speaker 1: you know what I like about our discussion today, Steve. 1078 00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:09,040 Speaker 1: As much as we agonize over the Twitter poll the 1079 00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:12,200 Speaker 1: Twitter question, we're getting good thoughtful responses stuff we didn't 1080 00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:14,560 Speaker 1: think of. I know you think that a Twitter poll 1081 00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:18,080 Speaker 1: with you know, fifty forty nine percent kind of margins 1082 00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:19,800 Speaker 1: are the best. But I like when people who have 1083 00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:21,400 Speaker 1: to think a little bit in these questions. And I 1084 00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:22,920 Speaker 1: think I can see that going on with something we 1085 00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:24,680 Speaker 1: give them. We don't give them choices to make. They 1086 00:53:24,719 --> 00:53:26,880 Speaker 1: can come up with their own. I don't mind choices, 1087 00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:29,320 Speaker 1: but I like when people put thought into it. Absolutely, 1088 00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:31,319 Speaker 1: And I think we're seeing that today. Yes we are, 1089 00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:34,319 Speaker 1: and we've got some good ones. I'm gonna go back, Yeah, 1090 00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:38,800 Speaker 1: I gotta because I want to see this, because I 1091 00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:40,920 Speaker 1: this is the one that destrikes me. Because I'll tell 1092 00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:43,520 Speaker 1: you why. After I read a displaced Bill's fan, Saints 1093 00:53:43,560 --> 00:53:45,480 Speaker 1: winning the Super Bowl in OZ nine would be a 1094 00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:48,719 Speaker 1: redemption story. Three years after Katrina hit New Orleans. Not 1095 00:53:48,840 --> 00:53:51,040 Speaker 1: a player, not a player come back, but the team 1096 00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:53,200 Speaker 1: and the city came back from the abyss to win 1097 00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:56,280 Speaker 1: it all. I I went down to New Orleans after Katrina. 1098 00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:58,640 Speaker 1: I don't know how long it was, whether it's eight months, 1099 00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:01,160 Speaker 1: nine months, twelve months. I can't remember because it was 1100 00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:05,520 Speaker 1: a while ago. And did hurricane right, because the hurricane 1101 00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:08,520 Speaker 1: was August September, they didn't play there the next year. 1102 00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:09,880 Speaker 1: You went back, right, I went. I went in and 1103 00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:14,960 Speaker 1: helped him. Yes, I can't remember. It was Monday night football, 1104 00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:18,440 Speaker 1: the first game back. I wasn't there for that. Yeah, No, 1105 00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:21,839 Speaker 1: I was there doing relief work. Okay. I went down 1106 00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:23,840 Speaker 1: like in the summer. We were there and uh with 1107 00:54:23,960 --> 00:54:25,480 Speaker 1: a with a group of people. We went down and 1108 00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:29,279 Speaker 1: cleaned up debris and the houses and things that have 1109 00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:31,920 Speaker 1: been destroyed and help people kind of get their places 1110 00:54:31,960 --> 00:54:36,279 Speaker 1: back together, and to see where that city was at 1111 00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:39,200 Speaker 1: that time, and to feel and the attitude of the 1112 00:54:39,239 --> 00:54:41,960 Speaker 1: people ended to see them come back and rebuild the 1113 00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:44,239 Speaker 1: Superdome and come back. And I told you this and 1114 00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:46,160 Speaker 1: I kind of laugh about it. You know, Steve Glee 1115 00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:49,080 Speaker 1: that they're playing in the Atlanta Falcons Big Division rivalry. 1116 00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:51,120 Speaker 1: It's the first game back in the Dome after the 1117 00:54:51,400 --> 00:54:56,560 Speaker 1: Hurricane Katrina, and Steve Glee and blocks that punt. I 1118 00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:58,960 Speaker 1: can't tell us and I gotta keep moving because I 1119 00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:01,439 Speaker 1: can't tell a story with that choking up. I told 1120 00:55:01,480 --> 00:55:03,680 Speaker 1: Peter King, We've talked about it a number of times. 1121 00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:05,880 Speaker 1: I told him that is the most timely and important 1122 00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:08,759 Speaker 1: special teams play of all time. Steve Gleason blocking the 1123 00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:12,920 Speaker 1: punt in the Monday Night game against the Atlanta Falcons 1124 00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:20,680 Speaker 1: on the first series of that game to get it going. Yeah. 1125 00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:26,400 Speaker 1: A couple of years later, when the Niners and the 1126 00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:28,719 Speaker 1: Ravens played in the Super Bowl, we went down did 1127 00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:31,920 Speaker 1: some some human interest stories for CBS Sports Network and 1128 00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:33,799 Speaker 1: I was doing some feature stories and we did a game. 1129 00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:38,160 Speaker 1: There was a charity game. Steve Gleason and Cooper Manning, 1130 00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:41,760 Speaker 1: who put this flag football game together between Wounded Warriors 1131 00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:45,120 Speaker 1: and NFL guys, and it was a fundraiser at a 1132 00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:46,719 Speaker 1: high school field. It was a big deal, and we 1133 00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:48,879 Speaker 1: did a feature story on it, and I was doing 1134 00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:50,160 Speaker 1: a stand up at the end, you know what I'm 1135 00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:52,200 Speaker 1: talking about, a stand up, but to wrap up the story, 1136 00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:56,879 Speaker 1: I couldn't get through the stand up because I kept crying, Wow, 1137 00:55:57,760 --> 00:56:01,000 Speaker 1: you know that. That's what that redemption story meant to 1138 00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:03,000 Speaker 1: me as a guy who played at that position and 1139 00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:05,239 Speaker 1: saw what Steve did and now the struggles that he's 1140 00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:09,160 Speaker 1: gone through als and and it's a I love that 1141 00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:11,759 Speaker 1: that somebody remembers that that's called me. That's what I mean. 1142 00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:14,280 Speaker 1: We're getting great responses stuff we didn't think of the Saints. 1143 00:56:14,680 --> 00:56:17,280 Speaker 1: That's redemption, right, what the Saints did coming back winning 1144 00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:19,200 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl a couple of years later, coming back 1145 00:56:19,239 --> 00:56:22,120 Speaker 1: and playing in that stadium which was the epicenter of 1146 00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:24,120 Speaker 1: a lot of the misery that went on during Katrina 1147 00:56:24,280 --> 00:56:26,319 Speaker 1: back in two thousand and five. That's a really good answer. 1148 00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:28,000 Speaker 1: We're getting a lot of good responses to this. We'll 1149 00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:32,520 Speaker 1: get to more of them. I laughed, because I do 1150 00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:35,399 Speaker 1: tier up pretty easily, like a good beer commercial. Gets 1151 00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:37,120 Speaker 1: me going to you know, So I don't want to 1152 00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:39,680 Speaker 1: make it sound like that this is out of character 1153 00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:42,319 Speaker 1: for me, because I do, like I cry, commercials are 1154 00:56:42,360 --> 00:56:43,600 Speaker 1: a thing of mine. I think it's an art form. 1155 00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:46,200 Speaker 1: It's a great American art form because we're We're the 1156 00:56:46,440 --> 00:56:49,280 Speaker 1: country that spends the most money consumers, right, We're the consumer, 1157 00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:53,319 Speaker 1: so our commercials are the best. So there are I have. Yeah, 1158 00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:55,160 Speaker 1: there have been even commercials that have got I can't 1159 00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:56,560 Speaker 1: remember what they are now, but you know, the old 1160 00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:58,919 Speaker 1: at and t but like girls use a tier on now, yeah, 1161 00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:02,640 Speaker 1: come on, but yeah, beer commercials. I'm I'm one of 1162 00:57:02,680 --> 00:57:05,240 Speaker 1: those guys. So when you know something like that happens, 1163 00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:08,560 Speaker 1: it's real. Yeah, I even today, it's like it's been 1164 00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:12,320 Speaker 1: ten years, eleven years. I still, you know, I in 1165 00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:16,120 Speaker 1: a you know, in a moment that gets me chokes 1166 00:57:16,120 --> 00:57:19,120 Speaker 1: me up. It's unbelievable. I'm maybe it's just because I'm old. 1167 00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:20,800 Speaker 1: Are you okay to go on? I think I can't. 1168 00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:23,720 Speaker 1: All right, we'll go. Let me, let me just swallow 1169 00:57:23,760 --> 00:57:25,720 Speaker 1: the lump in my throat and I'll be ready. We'll 1170 00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:28,200 Speaker 1: get more of these redemption stories and your thoughts. Can 1171 00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:31,880 Speaker 1: you know we all generated by Tiger Woods redemption story yesterday. 1172 00:57:31,960 --> 00:57:35,280 Speaker 1: What's the best redemption story in the NFL in NFL history. 1173 00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:37,160 Speaker 1: Give us some calls. We got lines open eight oh 1174 00:57:37,240 --> 00:57:40,240 Speaker 1: three five fifty toll free one eight eight eight five 1175 00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:43,080 Speaker 1: fifty two five fifty. This Buffalo Bill stream time to 1176 00:57:43,120 --> 00:57:45,160 Speaker 1: come back from a six win season last year. So 1177 00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:47,360 Speaker 1: a little bit of redemption here, and today was the 1178 00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:50,000 Speaker 1: first day to get that going. First day of offseason 1179 00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:52,439 Speaker 1: conditioning about well, I don't have a number yet. Maybe 1180 00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:54,360 Speaker 1: Sean McDermott will give us a number later in the day. 1181 00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:56,480 Speaker 1: But some of the Bills players already meeting with the 1182 00:57:56,560 --> 00:58:00,640 Speaker 1: media as the offseason workouts begin today include second year 1183 00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:04,240 Speaker 1: linebacker Premade Edmonds. He's still twenty years old. He'll be 1184 00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:06,760 Speaker 1: twenty one May second this year. He's twenty years old. 1185 00:58:07,040 --> 00:58:09,560 Speaker 1: He is considered one of the premier building blocks for 1186 00:58:09,680 --> 00:58:12,760 Speaker 1: this Buffalo defense and the leader on the defensive side 1187 00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:14,920 Speaker 1: of the ball, and Premiade Edmonds was asked about that 1188 00:58:15,280 --> 00:58:17,040 Speaker 1: just a couple of minutes ago in the media room 1189 00:58:18,160 --> 00:58:20,280 Speaker 1: in your past week, get a guy like Kyle out 1190 00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:23,560 Speaker 1: here early on, Nady Lorenzo, you're in your second year, 1191 00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:26,160 Speaker 1: twenty gonna be twenty one years old night, and yet 1192 00:58:26,680 --> 00:58:27,880 Speaker 1: what do you mean to you to be the guy 1193 00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:29,440 Speaker 1: that they kind of trade to come out here in 1194 00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:33,080 Speaker 1: the first day to basically represent the defense. Uh, you know, 1195 00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:35,120 Speaker 1: it means a lot to me. You know, just knowing 1196 00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:37,480 Speaker 1: that those guys trust me to come out here and 1197 00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:39,720 Speaker 1: speak to you guys, it means a lot. You know. 1198 00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:41,720 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna take the things that they showed. You know, 1199 00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:44,240 Speaker 1: they showed a lot of leadership last year. So take 1200 00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:46,040 Speaker 1: those things, you know, try to do it in my 1201 00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:48,240 Speaker 1: own way, but learn from it and go forward from there. 1202 00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:52,120 Speaker 1: I mean, when you go back at your rookie season, 1203 00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:55,240 Speaker 1: what were the main things that you feel you learn 1204 00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:59,160 Speaker 1: in game? Just the whole NFL experience. I mean, you 1205 00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:01,320 Speaker 1: know I was young coming in, you know, learning a 1206 00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:03,920 Speaker 1: new system. So you know, I have a year under 1207 00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:07,040 Speaker 1: my belt now. So now it's about going going back 1208 00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:09,320 Speaker 1: and finding tune in what I did last year, you know, 1209 00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:12,400 Speaker 1: and what we did as a team. You're learning from there. 1210 00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:14,800 Speaker 1: Sit down with the guys, you know, get more into 1211 00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:16,960 Speaker 1: depth with it now. You know, talk more football talk, 1212 00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:19,680 Speaker 1: more situational work. Since everybody now kind of got a 1213 00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:21,840 Speaker 1: foundation and we all kind of on the same talk 1214 00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:24,560 Speaker 1: now as we was as we got through a little 1215 00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:26,480 Speaker 1: bit last year. But uh, you know, just going from 1216 00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:28,960 Speaker 1: there and learning from there getting better is you're around 1217 00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:32,720 Speaker 1: your teammates. You saw that this team did it free agency, 1218 00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:39,240 Speaker 1: bringing water guys, what's the what's the sense of expectation 1219 00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:41,960 Speaker 1: when you first kind of got around you and your 1220 00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:45,200 Speaker 1: teammates for the first time and the gather room. You know, 1221 00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:47,960 Speaker 1: I don't think it was an expectation, but you know, 1222 00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:50,240 Speaker 1: you know, we hold ourselves to a certain standard here, 1223 00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:52,360 Speaker 1: so you know, I think the biggest thing was just 1224 00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:55,000 Speaker 1: getting everybody on the same language, so we all speaking 1225 00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:57,440 Speaker 1: the same type of talk. But uh, you know, we 1226 00:59:57,560 --> 00:59:58,920 Speaker 1: know it's gonna be tough coming in, you know, a 1227 00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:01,560 Speaker 1: lot of new faces, so it's about getting the guys around, 1228 01:00:01,600 --> 01:00:04,200 Speaker 1: communicating to each other, just building that bond because that's 1229 01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:05,800 Speaker 1: what it's gonna take to win games. And you know, 1230 01:00:05,840 --> 01:00:08,240 Speaker 1: we just starting from day one in the same in 1231 01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:13,680 Speaker 1: the same sense, though, what was your reaction to the 1232 01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:18,360 Speaker 1: amount of upgrades that Brandon being brought in to improve 1233 01:00:18,520 --> 01:00:21,720 Speaker 1: this roster. I mean, it's certainly seemed like, you know, 1234 01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:25,240 Speaker 1: it seemed like Brandon, maybe we're sending a message that 1235 01:00:25,360 --> 01:00:28,280 Speaker 1: this team is ready to win, or so to some extent. 1236 01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:30,280 Speaker 1: I mean I'm excited. I mean it's a new year. 1237 01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:32,160 Speaker 1: You got to prove yourself every year in this league. 1238 01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:34,640 Speaker 1: And so you know, we brought guys along, you know, 1239 01:00:34,760 --> 01:00:36,200 Speaker 1: like I said, I just pick you back on. We 1240 01:00:36,400 --> 01:00:38,800 Speaker 1: we got to build that trust with each other, a 1241 01:00:38,880 --> 01:00:40,400 Speaker 1: lot of like you said, a lot of new faces. 1242 01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:42,720 Speaker 1: So it's gonna take us spending some time together to 1243 01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:46,080 Speaker 1: really click. So uh, I mean I'm excited, and I 1244 01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:47,680 Speaker 1: know the whole team is excited. We all ready to 1245 01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:53,080 Speaker 1: get to work. If you care your say off season, 1246 01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:55,880 Speaker 1: you know, compared to coming from college to a team 1247 01:00:55,960 --> 01:00:58,720 Speaker 1: now that you got through a pro year and got 1248 01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:01,400 Speaker 1: a lot of the important from the focus about the 1249 01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:05,560 Speaker 1: diet and workout, muscle and all that, if you had 1250 01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:10,040 Speaker 1: any dramatic changes in your approach, I mean, you know, 1251 01:01:10,120 --> 01:01:11,960 Speaker 1: the college off seeing a little bit different from the 1252 01:01:12,040 --> 01:01:14,400 Speaker 1: NFL off season. So just the way our train was 1253 01:01:14,400 --> 01:01:16,360 Speaker 1: a little bit different, you know, nutrition was a little 1254 01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:19,080 Speaker 1: bit different. Just getting on the routine, sticking with it, 1255 01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:22,760 Speaker 1: and uh you know moving forward from there, any like 1256 01:01:22,920 --> 01:01:26,640 Speaker 1: weight wise or anything like that any different from now. 1257 01:01:28,480 --> 01:01:30,920 Speaker 1: Most of your rookie season heard about the same. It's 1258 01:01:30,920 --> 01:01:32,800 Speaker 1: about the same, you know, a little bit more muscle mass, 1259 01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:36,240 Speaker 1: you know, finding tuning towards that, getting stronger overall, you know, 1260 01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:38,720 Speaker 1: footwork things, things like that, just to help my game 1261 01:01:38,800 --> 01:01:41,120 Speaker 1: take the next level. Do you think of this folding away? 1262 01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:45,320 Speaker 1: It's amazing. I think it speaks for itself. You know, 1263 01:01:45,360 --> 01:01:48,560 Speaker 1: the owners really did pretty much what we could ask for. 1264 01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:51,680 Speaker 1: I mean beyond that, you know, we have the resources 1265 01:01:52,000 --> 01:01:54,160 Speaker 1: to be successful, and that's where I think it starts there. 1266 01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:56,880 Speaker 1: So now it's up to us to take advantage of it, 1267 01:01:57,040 --> 01:01:59,360 Speaker 1: use everything they put in there, and go to work 1268 01:01:59,400 --> 01:02:02,080 Speaker 1: from there. The schedule should be out sometime this week. 1269 01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:04,200 Speaker 1: Can you talk with torellbou You know this year, you 1270 01:02:04,240 --> 01:02:06,040 Speaker 1: guys are gonna match up. We're gonna play each other. 1271 01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:08,920 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I've been talking since since it first came out. 1272 01:02:08,960 --> 01:02:10,920 Speaker 1: You know, I have two brothers that are actually Torel 1273 01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:13,960 Speaker 1: and Trace, so we've been talking, communicating. Man, my parents 1274 01:02:14,040 --> 01:02:16,600 Speaker 1: they happy, everybody happy. But uh, it's it's gonna be 1275 01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:18,280 Speaker 1: a good game. I mean, it's gonna be a good season. 1276 01:02:18,320 --> 01:02:20,320 Speaker 1: I'm excited for everything. We gotta take it one step 1277 01:02:20,360 --> 01:02:22,800 Speaker 1: at the time. When that time comes, it comes. But 1278 01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:26,480 Speaker 1: I'm excited though when the draft next week, when you 1279 01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:29,919 Speaker 1: think a year ago where you were at this time, 1280 01:02:30,320 --> 01:02:33,919 Speaker 1: just sort of what recogition to remember his kind mom. 1281 01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:36,680 Speaker 1: Just going through these process, you know, getting in the building, 1282 01:02:36,760 --> 01:02:39,680 Speaker 1: speaking to the coaches. Uh, just going on business trips. 1283 01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:41,760 Speaker 1: You gotta approach it. It's because it's gonna it's about 1284 01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:44,560 Speaker 1: to be a job. So everything is business like. But uh, 1285 01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:47,680 Speaker 1: I enjoyed that time, man, just coming through, spending time 1286 01:02:47,720 --> 01:02:49,880 Speaker 1: in the building, looking around the facility, seeing the players. 1287 01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:51,880 Speaker 1: But uh, it's a fun time, man. So I think 1288 01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:54,000 Speaker 1: the players should definitely, you know, take advantage of it, 1289 01:02:55,480 --> 01:02:59,320 Speaker 1: find out where your professional career. So then you can't forget. 1290 01:02:59,600 --> 01:03:01,600 Speaker 1: I mean, it's what we dream of, man. So when 1291 01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:05,880 Speaker 1: I heard my name called, I was excited. I was excited. 1292 01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:07,960 Speaker 1: One of the biggest moments of my life. But I 1293 01:03:08,040 --> 01:03:10,400 Speaker 1: knew since day one, since my name got called, man, 1294 01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:12,280 Speaker 1: it was gonna be a business. Had to come in 1295 01:03:12,320 --> 01:03:14,919 Speaker 1: and improve a point. So uh, I mean, like I said, 1296 01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:19,000 Speaker 1: man to day, I would never forget the draft. I'm 1297 01:03:19,040 --> 01:03:20,640 Speaker 1: gonna try to tune in on it. I'm gonna try 1298 01:03:20,680 --> 01:03:22,400 Speaker 1: to tune in on it. So uh, I just want 1299 01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:24,240 Speaker 1: to see what's going on, what's going on around the league. 1300 01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:30,560 Speaker 1: So I tuned in, see what's going on. Speak you think, 1301 01:03:34,040 --> 01:03:35,720 Speaker 1: you know, I leave that up to the coaches. So 1302 01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:38,400 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure they're doing a good job determining that. 1303 01:03:38,560 --> 01:03:41,240 Speaker 1: So I leave it up to them. You So, therego. 1304 01:03:41,320 --> 01:03:43,920 Speaker 1: Tremaine had been a portion of his comments moments to 1305 01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:46,680 Speaker 1: go in the media room. I just I know this, 1306 01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:48,840 Speaker 1: and I just read it. He's twenty years old, Steve, 1307 01:03:48,880 --> 01:03:51,400 Speaker 1: you'll be twenty one May. Second they drafted him, he 1308 01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:55,480 Speaker 1: was nineteen, UM and there's a lot, Look there was 1309 01:03:55,560 --> 01:03:58,160 Speaker 1: last year too. There's a lot on his shoulders. They're 1310 01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:01,160 Speaker 1: they're expecting a lot from from It's pretty exciting. I 1311 01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:03,360 Speaker 1: think they have a guy that young and that talent 1312 01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:06,400 Speaker 1: and and with that much upside, and there's the upside, 1313 01:04:06,560 --> 01:04:08,360 Speaker 1: is all still there for him? I believe. I hope 1314 01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:12,520 Speaker 1: he's playing for the Bills when he's forty. Unlikely, but 1315 01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:14,320 Speaker 1: I hope you're right too. I hope. I hope he 1316 01:04:14,360 --> 01:04:17,080 Speaker 1: plays till he's forty at that middle of linebacker spot. 1317 01:04:17,160 --> 01:04:19,840 Speaker 1: And I you know, and when he retires, I hope 1318 01:04:19,840 --> 01:04:22,400 Speaker 1: we all wonder what we'll do without him, you know, Yeah, 1319 01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:24,600 Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's what you hope for guys like that. 1320 01:04:24,760 --> 01:04:27,680 Speaker 1: He's a great guy and he's you know, he just 1321 01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:30,160 Speaker 1: wish the best for guys like that. And you heard 1322 01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:34,280 Speaker 1: him kind of embrace the leadership mantle that's been put 1323 01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:36,120 Speaker 1: on his shoulders, right, And he did a little bit 1324 01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:38,040 Speaker 1: last year. He had to call the defense, you know, 1325 01:04:38,120 --> 01:04:41,840 Speaker 1: relay the defensive signals, and we saw that whole progress 1326 01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:43,920 Speaker 1: right as the season went along. He got more comfortable 1327 01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:46,520 Speaker 1: as a player, I thought, and started making plays in 1328 01:04:46,600 --> 01:04:48,920 Speaker 1: the final third of the season, maybe the second half 1329 01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:50,880 Speaker 1: of the season. And now just think what he can 1330 01:04:50,920 --> 01:04:52,720 Speaker 1: pick up where he can pick up from here. You know, 1331 01:04:52,840 --> 01:04:55,080 Speaker 1: he'll he'll have all of that experience of playing in 1332 01:04:55,080 --> 01:04:57,880 Speaker 1: all those games last year, plus all of that experience 1333 01:04:57,960 --> 01:05:01,880 Speaker 1: calling this defense is less Frazier Sean McDermott defense for 1334 01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:04,600 Speaker 1: another year. Boy, the sky's the limit for that guy. 1335 01:05:04,640 --> 01:05:07,680 Speaker 1: As much as we love the first first pick last year, 1336 01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:10,200 Speaker 1: the first first round pick last year, the second one 1337 01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:13,120 Speaker 1: is really good and really important I think to the 1338 01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:16,360 Speaker 1: future of this team long term. Yeah, and that and 1339 01:05:17,160 --> 01:05:18,920 Speaker 1: the fact that they got these guys in the same 1340 01:05:19,080 --> 01:05:22,720 Speaker 1: draft is I think more symbolic than it is meaningful. 1341 01:05:23,040 --> 01:05:25,320 Speaker 1: You got to get these guys somewhere, somehow, some way, 1342 01:05:25,360 --> 01:05:27,880 Speaker 1: whether he's a free agent in his third year, or 1343 01:05:27,880 --> 01:05:30,480 Speaker 1: where the draft a teenager and he turns into that 1344 01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:34,760 Speaker 1: guy fairly quickly, you got to have him. And the 1345 01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:37,200 Speaker 1: fact that these guys are linked by that draft. The 1346 01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:38,640 Speaker 1: only thing it does for you is that they're going 1347 01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:40,360 Speaker 1: to come up with their contracts in the same year, 1348 01:05:41,120 --> 01:05:43,240 Speaker 1: and you hope you're really worried about trying to sign 1349 01:05:43,320 --> 01:05:44,920 Speaker 1: them because you've got to have both of them. You know, 1350 01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:48,400 Speaker 1: you just wish the you know, their script for their career, 1351 01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:51,480 Speaker 1: all it's gonna be still has yet to be written. 1352 01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:55,600 Speaker 1: They're certainly off to a good start individually, not maybe 1353 01:05:55,640 --> 01:06:03,200 Speaker 1: not statistically, but they certainly both have have not done 1354 01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:05,960 Speaker 1: anything to say, hey, they didn't deserve to be picked 1355 01:06:06,000 --> 01:06:07,600 Speaker 1: where they did, because I think both of those guys 1356 01:06:07,720 --> 01:06:10,520 Speaker 1: have have proven that the chance that the Bills took 1357 01:06:10,600 --> 01:06:12,760 Speaker 1: on those and every draft picks a chance, do you 1358 01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:16,520 Speaker 1: take that that chance was well worth it. HI marks 1359 01:06:17,000 --> 01:06:19,880 Speaker 1: for the new player Development Center from Tremaine Edmonds. I 1360 01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:22,080 Speaker 1: think we'll hear that from all the players we hear 1361 01:06:22,120 --> 01:06:24,680 Speaker 1: from over the next few weeks. And an interesting point 1362 01:06:24,720 --> 01:06:27,080 Speaker 1: that Chris Brown made about how some of the players 1363 01:06:27,120 --> 01:06:29,520 Speaker 1: are in there where their phones taking pictures today of 1364 01:06:29,560 --> 01:06:31,960 Speaker 1: the new weight room, the new player development center, and 1365 01:06:32,040 --> 01:06:33,920 Speaker 1: you'd have to think of the players who were not 1366 01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:37,600 Speaker 1: here for whatever reason, travel or prior commitments, or just 1367 01:06:37,720 --> 01:06:40,000 Speaker 1: not ready to come in yet. Those pictures are probably 1368 01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:41,440 Speaker 1: going to those guys who don't you think, hey, look 1369 01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:43,400 Speaker 1: where we gotta look at this? Remember our wait room 1370 01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:45,480 Speaker 1: last year? Look at this? Look where we have here? Yeah, 1371 01:06:46,040 --> 01:06:48,520 Speaker 1: And I tell you it's not You see all the 1372 01:06:48,600 --> 01:06:50,640 Speaker 1: pictures and I've said this before a couple of times. 1373 01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:52,840 Speaker 1: It's really true. And we had it even with Brownie 1374 01:06:52,920 --> 01:06:54,560 Speaker 1: on at twelve thirty. You see the pictures of people 1375 01:06:54,600 --> 01:06:56,880 Speaker 1: walking around and the lines of weights and how cool 1376 01:06:56,920 --> 01:06:58,680 Speaker 1: they look, and they all got the logo on them, 1377 01:06:58,680 --> 01:07:01,160 Speaker 1: and they got all the cardios stuff. There's two levels 1378 01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:03,520 Speaker 1: with great big windows and it's a big, airy open 1379 01:07:03,600 --> 01:07:06,600 Speaker 1: space with all the state of the art new equipment 1380 01:07:06,680 --> 01:07:10,080 Speaker 1: that is in there, and it looks fantastic. And every 1381 01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:12,920 Speaker 1: team has to have something like that. They gotta have 1382 01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:15,600 Speaker 1: a place where guys can lift and exercise and train. 1383 01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:18,760 Speaker 1: I get it. But the real gem of that entire 1384 01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:22,960 Speaker 1: place is the technology behind closed doors. It's the it's 1385 01:07:23,000 --> 01:07:27,880 Speaker 1: the prehab centers. It's the dry needle acupuncture, the massage tables, 1386 01:07:27,960 --> 01:07:33,200 Speaker 1: the red light therapy, the cryo chamber, the hyperbaric chambers, 1387 01:07:33,440 --> 01:07:36,840 Speaker 1: the cold pool, the world pools, the hot tubs, the 1388 01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:40,640 Speaker 1: cold tubs. It's the treadmill under the water kind of stuff. 1389 01:07:40,680 --> 01:07:44,320 Speaker 1: It's the technology that's gonna get these guys on an 1390 01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:46,840 Speaker 1: individual basis to be the best they can be in 1391 01:07:46,920 --> 01:07:50,440 Speaker 1: their own career. And I think by doing that and 1392 01:07:50,520 --> 01:07:52,400 Speaker 1: getting these guys in there and setting them down. Looking 1393 01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:54,640 Speaker 1: these young players who have been so good for so long, 1394 01:07:54,680 --> 01:07:56,480 Speaker 1: they're like, you got to convince them, you know, you 1395 01:07:56,560 --> 01:07:58,240 Speaker 1: got to convince them that you're gonna make them better, 1396 01:07:58,280 --> 01:08:01,800 Speaker 1: You're gonna change their look. To sit them down and 1397 01:08:01,880 --> 01:08:05,080 Speaker 1: get them to buy into that, and not having to 1398 01:08:05,320 --> 01:08:07,440 Speaker 1: have a veteran convince them that they need to get 1399 01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:10,200 Speaker 1: a massage, not having to have a veteran say what 1400 01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:11,920 Speaker 1: are you doing and say, well, I'm getting acupuncture. I 1401 01:08:11,960 --> 01:08:14,120 Speaker 1: don't want to do that, you know, to convince them 1402 01:08:14,160 --> 01:08:18,400 Speaker 1: to get around, get their mind around being a professional 1403 01:08:18,920 --> 01:08:24,320 Speaker 1: athlete and knowing that your toolbox is what is inside 1404 01:08:24,360 --> 01:08:26,519 Speaker 1: your own skin. And you got to make sure you 1405 01:08:26,600 --> 01:08:30,479 Speaker 1: have it right. That's a hard message to sell to 1406 01:08:30,640 --> 01:08:34,519 Speaker 1: a twenty years question. Don't smart players look around and 1407 01:08:34,680 --> 01:08:37,479 Speaker 1: just pick up intuitively, like oh, look at Lorenzo going 1408 01:08:37,560 --> 01:08:39,240 Speaker 1: at it in that room, or look at them going 1409 01:08:39,280 --> 01:08:40,880 Speaker 1: at and on that machine, or this guy doing this. 1410 01:08:41,320 --> 01:08:43,880 Speaker 1: Do you have to really sit them down and tell them, oh, yeah, 1411 01:08:44,439 --> 01:08:46,720 Speaker 1: it's not enough just to have him a veteran guy 1412 01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:51,000 Speaker 1: looking say they don't see they don't see Lorenzo Alexander 1413 01:08:51,080 --> 01:08:56,120 Speaker 1: doing that stuff until September October. It's it's more April, 1414 01:08:56,840 --> 01:08:59,320 Speaker 1: who does these young players the draft picks don't and 1415 01:08:59,320 --> 01:09:01,200 Speaker 1: see even these young players, you're these free agents who 1416 01:09:01,240 --> 01:09:03,080 Speaker 1: come from other teams who may have been young guys. 1417 01:09:03,080 --> 01:09:05,560 Speaker 1: Are they're certainly they're smart and listen to stay in 1418 01:09:05,640 --> 01:09:07,519 Speaker 1: a little in the NFL for a long time, you 1419 01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:09,240 Speaker 1: gotta your light's gotta be on because you got to 1420 01:09:09,280 --> 01:09:11,920 Speaker 1: have a sense of commitment and a sense of intelligence 1421 01:09:11,960 --> 01:09:15,080 Speaker 1: to sacrifice and do all the intelligent things to keep 1422 01:09:15,120 --> 01:09:17,720 Speaker 1: your body right. But they're not gonna they don't get 1423 01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:19,280 Speaker 1: to know these guys. They don't get to see these 1424 01:09:19,320 --> 01:09:21,600 Speaker 1: guys and to have this there and to say to 1425 01:09:21,720 --> 01:09:23,560 Speaker 1: give them a tour and say listen, here's what this 1426 01:09:23,760 --> 01:09:26,280 Speaker 1: is and here's what it does. You're gonna sit down. 1427 01:09:26,760 --> 01:09:29,080 Speaker 1: You think it has not been all that long ago 1428 01:09:29,160 --> 01:09:31,160 Speaker 1: where they said, hey, here's are the trainers. When you 1429 01:09:31,200 --> 01:09:33,200 Speaker 1: get your ankles tape, go to these guys, you know, 1430 01:09:33,320 --> 01:09:35,479 Speaker 1: like this, and if you get injured, go see these guys. 1431 01:09:36,080 --> 01:09:39,519 Speaker 1: That's not the way it is anymore. Now you go in, 1432 01:09:39,640 --> 01:09:41,840 Speaker 1: you sit down with these guys. They give you an evaluation. 1433 01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:43,840 Speaker 1: They stretch you, they see where your limber, they get 1434 01:09:43,880 --> 01:09:49,799 Speaker 1: your measurements. You're measurables, you're EKGs, you're physical, you're internal, 1435 01:09:49,880 --> 01:09:53,160 Speaker 1: you're external, you're orthopedic, all this stuff. How flexible you're 1436 01:09:53,240 --> 01:09:55,880 Speaker 1: this joint is, how flexible that joint is? And then 1437 01:09:55,960 --> 01:10:00,800 Speaker 1: they say, okay, here you go. You're playing dB. Your legs, 1438 01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:05,920 Speaker 1: your hip joints are just not flexible enough. So you're 1439 01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:07,840 Speaker 1: we're gonna work on. That's what you're gonna do. And 1440 01:10:08,040 --> 01:10:10,439 Speaker 1: while this guy over here is doing bench and doing 1441 01:10:11,120 --> 01:10:14,000 Speaker 1: you know, incline bench, decline bench, he's doing squads, he's 1442 01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:15,960 Speaker 1: doing vertical jumps on You're not gonna be doing any 1443 01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:17,639 Speaker 1: of that. You're gonna be over here and we're gonna 1444 01:10:17,640 --> 01:10:20,240 Speaker 1: have three people stretching you out for forty five minutes 1445 01:10:20,280 --> 01:10:23,840 Speaker 1: every day, that's your workout. To have a kid sit 1446 01:10:23,920 --> 01:10:27,719 Speaker 1: down and have him get that kind of individual care, 1447 01:10:28,439 --> 01:10:31,760 Speaker 1: and it sends a strong message throughout the roster, and 1448 01:10:31,800 --> 01:10:35,320 Speaker 1: it makes the guy empowers him that this team is 1449 01:10:35,320 --> 01:10:38,160 Speaker 1: all in with him. And that's and that's a mentality 1450 01:10:38,240 --> 01:10:40,920 Speaker 1: that permeates everybody and on the field, and you get 1451 01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:44,280 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you get a group of whoever 1452 01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:48,479 Speaker 1: you have playing way over their heads together. Yeah, I 1453 01:10:48,600 --> 01:10:51,479 Speaker 1: get you just for comparison's sake. And I'm not trying 1454 01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:54,360 Speaker 1: to make you feel old, but you can human we're 1455 01:10:54,400 --> 01:10:56,920 Speaker 1: looking out there today, I really feel old. What was 1456 01:10:57,000 --> 01:10:58,800 Speaker 1: it like in eighty six you show up here at 1457 01:10:58,840 --> 01:11:01,639 Speaker 1: the Bill's The weight room was down in the stadium 1458 01:11:01,680 --> 01:11:03,760 Speaker 1: where you practiced over there where there was only place 1459 01:11:03,800 --> 01:11:06,040 Speaker 1: to practice. It was down below the locker room a 1460 01:11:06,080 --> 01:11:09,080 Speaker 1: little bit. It was pretty bare bones, right, It was 1461 01:11:09,240 --> 01:11:12,160 Speaker 1: pretty basic. A lot of what Nautilus equipment, and that 1462 01:11:12,280 --> 01:11:15,639 Speaker 1: was it free weights Nautilus. And it's a little bigger 1463 01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:17,760 Speaker 1: than this room, a little bigger than the room we're 1464 01:11:17,800 --> 01:11:20,280 Speaker 1: sitting in, not even about the same size of the room. 1465 01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:22,719 Speaker 1: We're seeing a little maybe a little bigger and Fred 1466 01:11:23,200 --> 01:11:25,960 Speaker 1: and they had one, you know, Rusty Jones strength conditioning 1467 01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:28,000 Speaker 1: coach who was ahead of his time, no question, yeah, 1468 01:11:28,520 --> 01:11:31,360 Speaker 1: and was all over it and and kept trying to 1469 01:11:31,479 --> 01:11:33,720 Speaker 1: push the envelope. We were always doing new things and 1470 01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:36,599 Speaker 1: different things. So we were growing exponentially even back then. 1471 01:11:36,840 --> 01:11:39,519 Speaker 1: And we were ahead of the game there too even then. 1472 01:11:40,120 --> 01:11:43,000 Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean it was what are you gonna do? 1473 01:11:43,120 --> 01:11:45,400 Speaker 1: You know, we had very experienced training, a very good 1474 01:11:45,479 --> 01:11:48,120 Speaker 1: training staff and that day and age very good they 1475 01:11:48,240 --> 01:11:50,759 Speaker 1: and I felt like, and this is an important connection 1476 01:11:50,800 --> 01:11:53,760 Speaker 1: to make, I really felt like the training staff of 1477 01:11:53,800 --> 01:11:57,519 Speaker 1: the Bills at that time, Bud Carpenter at Abramowski, those 1478 01:11:57,560 --> 01:12:00,320 Speaker 1: guys had my best interest at heart. And I went 1479 01:12:00,360 --> 01:12:04,200 Speaker 1: in there injured. They knew the Prague nos and they 1480 01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:06,040 Speaker 1: had such a wealth of experience. They say, listen, you 1481 01:12:06,080 --> 01:12:07,800 Speaker 1: can expect to be out this long and here's what's 1482 01:12:07,800 --> 01:12:10,000 Speaker 1: going to happen every step of the way, and here's 1483 01:12:10,000 --> 01:12:13,240 Speaker 1: what you should do, and and you're it's a bad 1484 01:12:13,280 --> 01:12:15,679 Speaker 1: idea for you to go out there. They were very 1485 01:12:15,840 --> 01:12:19,360 Speaker 1: open saying no, you're not practicing today. And the head 1486 01:12:19,400 --> 01:12:22,479 Speaker 1: coach I played for Marv Levy, to his credit, listened 1487 01:12:22,520 --> 01:12:25,320 Speaker 1: to those guys to a great extent. Yeah, so it was. 1488 01:12:25,400 --> 01:12:28,479 Speaker 1: It was a great atmosphere and a great attitude, but 1489 01:12:28,600 --> 01:12:32,160 Speaker 1: it was stone Age compared to worth her right technologically. Yeah. Yeah. 1490 01:12:32,200 --> 01:12:33,880 Speaker 1: And we're gonna hear from Josh Allen. What do you 1491 01:12:33,960 --> 01:12:36,280 Speaker 1: think to the new Player Performance Center and much more. 1492 01:12:36,600 --> 01:12:38,760 Speaker 1: Josh Allen coming up from the podium, speaking of the 1493 01:12:38,840 --> 01:12:41,880 Speaker 1: media today, Day one of the Bills offseason conditioning program. 1494 01:12:41,920 --> 01:12:43,920 Speaker 1: We're back with that at the moment. One goes Live 1495 01:12:44,160 --> 01:12:57,040 Speaker 1: from One Goes Drive. This is Buffalo Bill's radio. Welcome back, 1496 01:12:57,080 --> 01:12:59,719 Speaker 1: One Goes Live from One Goes Drive. John Murphy, Steve Tasker, 1497 01:12:59,760 --> 01:13:02,000 Speaker 1: can I three curveball? Do exactly what I did not 1498 01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:03,439 Speaker 1: tell you I was going to do? Here? Go ahead. 1499 01:13:03,479 --> 01:13:05,080 Speaker 1: We got a call on the line. Who wants to respond? 1500 01:13:05,080 --> 01:13:07,520 Speaker 1: I want to keep the conversation because I liked this conversation. 1501 01:13:08,160 --> 01:13:11,599 Speaker 1: Got Tiger Woods great redemption at the Master's yesterday. What's 1502 01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:14,479 Speaker 1: the best player redemption story in NFL history? What do 1503 01:13:14,560 --> 01:13:17,320 Speaker 1: you think? Brian in Kansas on the line, where are 1504 01:13:17,320 --> 01:13:20,679 Speaker 1: you from? You from Lyota, Kansas Spring? Where are you from? Hi? Guys? 1505 01:13:20,720 --> 01:13:25,240 Speaker 1: How are we doing? Okay, where in Kansas are you from? Oh? Yeah, 1506 01:13:25,439 --> 01:13:27,599 Speaker 1: right next door? No, well it is, it's only five 1507 01:13:27,640 --> 01:13:33,200 Speaker 1: hour drive, right, Thanks for calling. Hey, um, I was thinking, 1508 01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:36,720 Speaker 1: what do you guys think about that Kevin Everett situation. 1509 01:13:36,800 --> 01:13:39,400 Speaker 1: You know, you've got paralyzing in I know he don't 1510 01:13:39,439 --> 01:13:42,240 Speaker 1: play football a nomore, but a year later, you know, 1511 01:13:42,320 --> 01:13:44,040 Speaker 1: I learned how he walked out of the hospital. I 1512 01:13:44,120 --> 01:13:47,519 Speaker 1: thought I was pretty inspirational. Yeah, Unfortunately, there's been a 1513 01:13:47,600 --> 01:13:50,400 Speaker 1: couple of those where a guy has gotten catastrophically injured 1514 01:13:50,439 --> 01:13:53,960 Speaker 1: and wasn't able to walk, like Darryl Stingley back in 1515 01:13:54,000 --> 01:13:56,880 Speaker 1: the seventies. So yeah, that's a that's a good one. 1516 01:13:56,920 --> 01:14:00,639 Speaker 1: I'm an interesting side note about the Kevin an efforte story. 1517 01:14:00,680 --> 01:14:03,560 Speaker 1: His injury happened on the day, just after halftime that 1518 01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:05,160 Speaker 1: I got inducted into the Wall of Fame here at 1519 01:14:05,200 --> 01:14:08,640 Speaker 1: the stadium. Was Houston, Texas? It was, I believe it was, 1520 01:14:08,760 --> 01:14:11,960 Speaker 1: and I and I not opening day. It was a 1521 01:14:12,040 --> 01:14:14,599 Speaker 1: home opener. Might have been a second week two. Maybe 1522 01:14:15,400 --> 01:14:18,920 Speaker 1: it might have been Denver too. Yeah, it wasn't wasn't Houston, 1523 01:14:19,040 --> 01:14:21,599 Speaker 1: And uh so that happened. You were inducted at halftime 1524 01:14:22,120 --> 01:14:25,040 Speaker 1: and it happened opening kickoff after halftime. It happened. In fact, 1525 01:14:25,120 --> 01:14:27,479 Speaker 1: I got you know, it takes a while because everybody 1526 01:14:27,520 --> 01:14:29,720 Speaker 1: was saying congratulations in the game, you know, kind of 1527 01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:31,360 Speaker 1: took off while I was still making my way back 1528 01:14:31,439 --> 01:14:34,599 Speaker 1: up to the to the suite, and uh and sure 1529 01:14:34,680 --> 01:14:37,560 Speaker 1: enough it had taken a long time, obviously because he 1530 01:14:37,680 --> 01:14:41,040 Speaker 1: was really injured. And that's you know, on a day 1531 01:14:41,080 --> 01:14:42,800 Speaker 1: that I got inducted into the Wall of Fame, I 1532 01:14:42,920 --> 01:14:45,240 Speaker 1: kind of remember that even more, you know, But I 1533 01:14:45,240 --> 01:14:47,200 Speaker 1: remember about that week. What year was at see by 1534 01:14:47,200 --> 01:14:49,720 Speaker 1: the way, in nineteen ninety seven? Wow? Is that long ago? 1535 01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:53,800 Speaker 1: Two thousand? Yeah, Jake says two thousand, and you know 1536 01:14:53,880 --> 01:14:55,639 Speaker 1: it was it was in the two thousands, he says, 1537 01:14:55,680 --> 01:14:59,080 Speaker 1: it's oh seven, okay, you know, one of the many 1538 01:14:59,400 --> 01:15:02,479 Speaker 1: enduring memory of that week. The following week, the next week, 1539 01:15:02,520 --> 01:15:04,559 Speaker 1: the Bills went to Pittsburgh to play at the Steelers 1540 01:15:05,240 --> 01:15:08,240 Speaker 1: Friday practice. Kevin Everts still in the hospital getting better, 1541 01:15:08,360 --> 01:15:11,200 Speaker 1: but you know, nothing is cleared yet. And after the 1542 01:15:11,240 --> 01:15:14,280 Speaker 1: Friday practice, coach Giron it was Dick Duron then had 1543 01:15:14,800 --> 01:15:17,519 Speaker 1: Kevin Everett's mother, who was in town visiting her son, 1544 01:15:17,880 --> 01:15:20,439 Speaker 1: speak to the team running the field in the stadium. 1545 01:15:20,880 --> 01:15:23,639 Speaker 1: It was amazing. She's talking about how you're all my sons. 1546 01:15:23,720 --> 01:15:25,760 Speaker 1: I love you all, Thank you for taking care of us. 1547 01:15:25,880 --> 01:15:27,960 Speaker 1: It was amazing. I've never seen I was you know, 1548 01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:30,400 Speaker 1: are you were getting choked up? Yeah? I got choked 1549 01:15:30,479 --> 01:15:32,519 Speaker 1: up that day that Friday before the game against the 1550 01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:35,920 Speaker 1: Steelers to watch Kevin Evert's mom speak that eloquently and 1551 01:15:36,040 --> 01:15:39,880 Speaker 1: that really meaningfully to that team. You know how Friday 1552 01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:42,639 Speaker 1: practices are you know, Yeah, it was amazing. Hey, yeah, 1553 01:15:42,680 --> 01:15:44,840 Speaker 1: we'll talk more about that. The best player redemption story 1554 01:15:44,880 --> 01:15:46,760 Speaker 1: in the NFL? What do you have? And it's kind 1555 01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:48,760 Speaker 1: of based off what happened yesterday with Tiger Woods and 1556 01:15:48,840 --> 01:15:50,960 Speaker 1: his redemption. Let us know what you think. Eight h 1557 01:15:51,040 --> 01:15:53,519 Speaker 1: three h five fifty toll free one eight eight eight 1558 01:15:53,800 --> 01:15:56,960 Speaker 1: five fifty two five fifty. The players are here twenty 1559 01:15:57,040 --> 01:15:59,240 Speaker 1: nineteen Buffalo Bills are here for the first day of 1560 01:15:59,320 --> 01:16:02,320 Speaker 1: offseason sing Josh Allen speaking with the media a couple 1561 01:16:02,360 --> 01:16:05,599 Speaker 1: of moments ago, and the Buffalo quarterback was asked about this, Apparently, 1562 01:16:05,680 --> 01:16:08,479 Speaker 1: when the Bills signed free agents. Over the last five 1563 01:16:08,600 --> 01:16:10,680 Speaker 1: six weeks or so, Josh Allen has made it a 1564 01:16:10,720 --> 01:16:12,560 Speaker 1: point to pretty much dial up all of them and 1565 01:16:12,640 --> 01:16:14,720 Speaker 1: talk to them about coming to the Buffalo Bills. He 1566 01:16:14,800 --> 01:16:17,080 Speaker 1: was asked about that today when he met with the media. 1567 01:16:18,200 --> 01:16:20,360 Speaker 1: I mean, it doesn't take a lot of effort to 1568 01:16:20,439 --> 01:16:22,240 Speaker 1: do that, you know, just reaching out in them to someone, 1569 01:16:22,400 --> 01:16:25,799 Speaker 1: especially Kevin on the Bills, Um, you know, just asking 1570 01:16:25,880 --> 01:16:28,280 Speaker 1: for the phone number, just letting them know that, you know, 1571 01:16:28,280 --> 01:16:30,920 Speaker 1: I'm excited for them to be with us and be 1572 01:16:31,040 --> 01:16:33,680 Speaker 1: a part of this, you know, wonderful franchise and you know, 1573 01:16:34,040 --> 01:16:37,880 Speaker 1: start trying to set that um, you know, culture of 1574 01:16:37,920 --> 01:16:39,479 Speaker 1: where we want to be, you know, where we want 1575 01:16:39,479 --> 01:16:41,720 Speaker 1: to be. So what does it mean to you that 1576 01:16:42,600 --> 01:16:45,639 Speaker 1: most of these free agent signs obviously on your side 1577 01:16:45,680 --> 01:16:48,280 Speaker 1: of the ball, conceivably putting a whole bunch of new 1578 01:16:48,360 --> 01:16:52,200 Speaker 1: starters as well. It means we had a lot of 1579 01:16:52,200 --> 01:16:54,760 Speaker 1: work to do. You know, I had a lot of different, um, 1580 01:16:55,200 --> 01:16:57,599 Speaker 1: you know, new minds trying to work with each other now, 1581 01:16:57,680 --> 01:17:00,320 Speaker 1: trying to build that camaraderie, especially using this time to 1582 01:17:00,520 --> 01:17:03,840 Speaker 1: you know, develop that team chemistry. Um. You know, there's 1583 01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:06,040 Speaker 1: a lot a lot of new guys obviously coming into 1584 01:17:06,080 --> 01:17:08,479 Speaker 1: a new system. It's not gonna be perfect right away, 1585 01:17:08,479 --> 01:17:10,320 Speaker 1: and we don't expect it to be perfect, but you know, 1586 01:17:10,400 --> 01:17:13,439 Speaker 1: starting that communication now and um, you know, hopefully this 1587 01:17:13,800 --> 01:17:15,439 Speaker 1: this time we can start getting on the same page 1588 01:17:15,439 --> 01:17:18,040 Speaker 1: with everything. Obviously you were following it along because we've 1589 01:17:18,040 --> 01:17:22,880 Speaker 1: heard as you were following, were you kind of almost 1590 01:17:22,920 --> 01:17:27,200 Speaker 1: shocked by the way being attactive. I mean they were 1591 01:17:27,240 --> 01:17:29,120 Speaker 1: just like a sign of your heads and seem like 1592 01:17:29,280 --> 01:17:32,439 Speaker 1: you're all offensive guys. You're kind of surprised about how 1593 01:17:32,479 --> 01:17:33,960 Speaker 1: it was all played out. Well, I mean it's my 1594 01:17:34,080 --> 01:17:36,320 Speaker 1: first off season, so I don't really know how things work. 1595 01:17:36,520 --> 01:17:38,720 Speaker 1: You know, this is uh all new to me. So 1596 01:17:38,880 --> 01:17:43,000 Speaker 1: seeing whether there's a Twitter updates or um getting a 1597 01:17:43,040 --> 01:17:45,680 Speaker 1: call from Kevin or coach Daves or or not not 1598 01:17:45,760 --> 01:17:50,040 Speaker 1: coaches but Kevin. Um, you know, it was just you know, 1599 01:17:50,120 --> 01:17:54,799 Speaker 1: good to see that, you know, whether it um honestly 1600 01:17:54,840 --> 01:17:57,080 Speaker 1: Twitter updates is where where I got my information from. 1601 01:17:57,160 --> 01:17:58,960 Speaker 1: But just trying to reach out to them, and you know, 1602 01:17:59,080 --> 01:18:04,000 Speaker 1: it was a fun time for me. What did you 1603 01:18:04,120 --> 01:18:07,280 Speaker 1: think days before that you were going to contact you know, 1604 01:18:07,439 --> 01:18:11,200 Speaker 1: some of the new guys or what what prompted you 1605 01:18:11,479 --> 01:18:13,759 Speaker 1: reaching out to these guys and saying, you know, welcome 1606 01:18:13,800 --> 01:18:16,840 Speaker 1: to Buffalo. I mean nothing really like I said, it 1607 01:18:16,840 --> 01:18:18,200 Speaker 1: didn't take a whole lot of effort to do it. 1608 01:18:18,360 --> 01:18:20,400 Speaker 1: You know, I just wanted them to know that I 1609 01:18:20,560 --> 01:18:22,599 Speaker 1: was following and I was, you know, trying to stay 1610 01:18:22,680 --> 01:18:24,240 Speaker 1: up with everything that was going on, trying to let 1611 01:18:24,280 --> 01:18:26,360 Speaker 1: them know that I'm happy that they're with us, like 1612 01:18:26,400 --> 01:18:29,479 Speaker 1: I said earlier. So, um, just just trying to reach 1613 01:18:29,560 --> 01:18:31,240 Speaker 1: out and get my foot in the door and start 1614 01:18:31,320 --> 01:18:39,839 Speaker 1: that relationship as quickly as possible. Next question, you mentioned 1615 01:18:40,200 --> 01:18:43,599 Speaker 1: you don't want to get no, that's yeah, we'll keep 1616 01:18:43,640 --> 01:18:47,479 Speaker 1: that in house. You're old that you have in the 1617 01:18:47,520 --> 01:18:51,080 Speaker 1: position to quarterback is not to rookie anymore. So how 1618 01:18:51,200 --> 01:18:55,800 Speaker 1: do you see maybe your leadership role rolling advancing and 1619 01:18:55,880 --> 01:18:59,240 Speaker 1: the jewelery. Well, obviously being in year two and being 1620 01:18:59,280 --> 01:19:02,200 Speaker 1: with the same staff for a year now, understanding the offense, 1621 01:19:02,800 --> 01:19:06,160 Speaker 1: you know, having um, Matt and Day in the quarterback room, 1622 01:19:06,439 --> 01:19:09,280 Speaker 1: it's very familiar. Now obviously a new coach with coach 1623 01:19:09,360 --> 01:19:12,840 Speaker 1: Dorsey and you know, starting to develop that relationship as well. Um, 1624 01:19:13,840 --> 01:19:17,519 Speaker 1: but I mean, you know, using that first year and 1625 01:19:17,560 --> 01:19:19,800 Speaker 1: all the experience that I had last year and bring 1626 01:19:19,920 --> 01:19:22,000 Speaker 1: it into this year. Obviously there's gonna be some stuff 1627 01:19:22,040 --> 01:19:24,760 Speaker 1: that I still haven't seen but you know, throughout this 1628 01:19:24,840 --> 01:19:27,360 Speaker 1: OTA process, trusting on the guys that have been here before, 1629 01:19:27,640 --> 01:19:30,080 Speaker 1: um you know the vet you know, like Lorenzo, Alexander 1630 01:19:30,160 --> 01:19:33,759 Speaker 1: and and Lashawan, and just understanding what's going on because 1631 01:19:33,760 --> 01:19:35,439 Speaker 1: this is still new to me. So I'm still trying 1632 01:19:35,439 --> 01:19:37,920 Speaker 1: to figure it out. Um, you know, whether it's scheduling 1633 01:19:38,280 --> 01:19:41,160 Speaker 1: or what to do on the weekends, you know, what 1634 01:19:41,320 --> 01:19:43,639 Speaker 1: we do after twelve o'clock more when you know we're 1635 01:19:43,760 --> 01:19:46,280 Speaker 1: not supposed to be here. So um, but I'm looking 1636 01:19:46,320 --> 01:19:47,880 Speaker 1: forward to it and looking forward to meeting all the 1637 01:19:48,040 --> 01:19:50,760 Speaker 1: especially the new guys, and continuing the relationships with the 1638 01:19:50,800 --> 01:19:52,880 Speaker 1: guys that have been here, um, you know off the field, 1639 01:19:52,880 --> 01:19:56,360 Speaker 1: whether they're be you know, just hanging out and having fun. 1640 01:19:58,040 --> 01:20:00,160 Speaker 1: To that leadership this year that maybe you don't want 1641 01:20:00,160 --> 01:20:02,040 Speaker 1: to overstep when you're a rookie, even if you are 1642 01:20:02,040 --> 01:20:03,639 Speaker 1: in the quarterback do you know what I mean? So, yeah, 1643 01:20:03,760 --> 01:20:08,120 Speaker 1: you're two. Is there a different comfort level I've been here? Um, 1644 01:20:08,560 --> 01:20:10,360 Speaker 1: I mean I'm still I want to improve. I want 1645 01:20:10,400 --> 01:20:13,760 Speaker 1: I want to win football games, and um, you know, 1646 01:20:13,840 --> 01:20:15,680 Speaker 1: the quarterback's job is you know, to put the ball 1647 01:20:15,720 --> 01:20:17,639 Speaker 1: in the end zone and lead a group of guys. 1648 01:20:17,680 --> 01:20:20,519 Speaker 1: So but it takes it takes all eleven. So we're 1649 01:20:20,720 --> 01:20:22,479 Speaker 1: going to continue to do that and continue to grow 1650 01:20:22,520 --> 01:20:26,639 Speaker 1: as an offense and myself personally. Um, you know, get bigger, faster, stronger, 1651 01:20:26,720 --> 01:20:30,400 Speaker 1: and and you know, try to gain more depth inside 1652 01:20:30,439 --> 01:20:32,920 Speaker 1: the playbook and try to get inside coach Dabel's mind 1653 01:20:33,000 --> 01:20:35,280 Speaker 1: and understand what he's trying to do when he calls 1654 01:20:35,320 --> 01:20:37,200 Speaker 1: a certain play. You know, I know we're a long 1655 01:20:37,240 --> 01:20:39,759 Speaker 1: way out from football games, but um, you know, ultimately 1656 01:20:39,840 --> 01:20:41,840 Speaker 1: that's that's our goal is. You know, we want to 1657 01:20:41,880 --> 01:20:44,240 Speaker 1: be on the field together and start winning football games 1658 01:20:44,280 --> 01:20:47,760 Speaker 1: and doing that at the end of that season. Do 1659 01:20:47,840 --> 01:20:50,120 Speaker 1: you have reflected upon the last offseason how your body 1660 01:20:50,200 --> 01:20:51,920 Speaker 1: change due to your training and that really helped you 1661 01:20:52,000 --> 01:20:55,360 Speaker 1: when your your running ability and athleticism. Do you maintain 1662 01:20:55,479 --> 01:20:57,560 Speaker 1: that type of training? Was it the same kind of 1663 01:20:57,600 --> 01:20:59,200 Speaker 1: thing because you saw a wow, look what I could do. 1664 01:20:59,320 --> 01:21:02,280 Speaker 1: I mean, it's gonna where that decision process was for you. 1665 01:21:02,360 --> 01:21:04,599 Speaker 1: How you wanted your body to be this year because 1666 01:21:04,640 --> 01:21:07,000 Speaker 1: you weren't going through the combine stuff. Yeah, I mean 1667 01:21:07,000 --> 01:21:08,320 Speaker 1: I feel like I'm in a good place right now. 1668 01:21:08,600 --> 01:21:11,080 Speaker 1: Obviously wasn't as aggressive as last year, not having the 1669 01:21:11,160 --> 01:21:14,320 Speaker 1: combine and in pro day and you know having to 1670 01:21:14,400 --> 01:21:17,360 Speaker 1: be in tip top physical shape. Um. But this is 1671 01:21:17,439 --> 01:21:19,840 Speaker 1: the point now where we want to start ramping it 1672 01:21:19,960 --> 01:21:22,960 Speaker 1: up and start getting back into into playing shape. And 1673 01:21:23,000 --> 01:21:25,360 Speaker 1: then when we get into June and July, that's when 1674 01:21:25,400 --> 01:21:27,639 Speaker 1: you still want to stay aggressive and try to peek 1675 01:21:27,640 --> 01:21:31,439 Speaker 1: at the right time. There. You got a portion of 1676 01:21:31,520 --> 01:21:34,040 Speaker 1: the comments from Josh Hewne. You got a gift, he 1677 01:21:34,200 --> 01:21:36,559 Speaker 1: said for Brandon Bean for all of the free agency 1678 01:21:36,680 --> 01:21:39,880 Speaker 1: sign Do you do that? Have you ever done that? No? 1679 01:21:40,160 --> 01:21:43,760 Speaker 1: I what it's got. We gotta find out what that is. 1680 01:21:43,920 --> 01:21:45,560 Speaker 1: You didn't want to tell him what anybody what it was. 1681 01:21:45,720 --> 01:21:47,840 Speaker 1: I don't know what it was. Golf, something golf related. 1682 01:21:48,240 --> 01:21:51,200 Speaker 1: I think, yeah, this guy maybe, Oh no, it'll yeah, 1683 01:21:51,200 --> 01:21:53,880 Speaker 1: it's gotta be yeah. Maybe. All right, we're breaking, We're 1684 01:21:53,920 --> 01:21:55,920 Speaker 1: coming back One Bill's Live from One Bills Driving. This 1685 01:21:56,080 --> 01:22:11,519 Speaker 1: is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back to the show. John Murphy, 1686 01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:15,479 Speaker 1: Steam Tasker. Day one of the week. By the way, Steve, 1687 01:22:15,880 --> 01:22:17,640 Speaker 1: indications are we're gonna get a schedule here in the 1688 01:22:17,680 --> 01:22:19,720 Speaker 1: next couple of days, maybe as soon as Wednesday night. 1689 01:22:20,200 --> 01:22:23,400 Speaker 1: Nothing official from the NFL, but we have some sources 1690 01:22:23,439 --> 01:22:26,839 Speaker 1: our staff has some sources. I can't wait for the schedule, 1691 01:22:27,160 --> 01:22:29,719 Speaker 1: and the indications are maybe as soon as this Wednesday 1692 01:22:29,800 --> 01:22:32,080 Speaker 1: night is Christmas in April. Yeah right, It's gonna be fun. 1693 01:22:32,360 --> 01:22:35,000 Speaker 1: Today the first day of the offseason conditioning program. Also 1694 01:22:35,080 --> 01:22:38,960 Speaker 1: today the day after Tiger woods remarkable performance that the 1695 01:22:39,040 --> 01:22:42,200 Speaker 1: Masters won the Masters yesterday in remarkable fashion, and that 1696 01:22:42,320 --> 01:22:44,280 Speaker 1: kind of got us going today as far as a 1697 01:22:44,479 --> 01:22:46,680 Speaker 1: topic to talk about. Not a Twitter poll today, but 1698 01:22:46,800 --> 01:22:49,760 Speaker 1: our topic anyway, Tiger Woods with his amazing victory and 1699 01:22:49,840 --> 01:22:54,880 Speaker 1: the Masters marking an amazing comeback his fifth Master's championship, 1700 01:22:54,920 --> 01:22:57,439 Speaker 1: first since two thousand and five. We ask you this question, 1701 01:22:57,800 --> 01:23:01,000 Speaker 1: what is the best redemption story in the NFL? What 1702 01:23:01,080 --> 01:23:03,759 Speaker 1: do you think? Give us a call eight three fifty 1703 01:23:03,760 --> 01:23:08,360 Speaker 1: two three eight five fifty two five fifty tweet in 1704 01:23:08,439 --> 01:23:10,680 Speaker 1: a response at one Bills Live. We may use it 1705 01:23:10,800 --> 01:23:13,080 Speaker 1: on the air. What's the best redemption story? We've had 1706 01:23:13,080 --> 01:23:15,519 Speaker 1: a lot of good suggestions from from our listeners today. 1707 01:23:15,600 --> 01:23:17,960 Speaker 1: Mike and Lancaster has an idea. Michael I had best 1708 01:23:18,000 --> 01:23:20,360 Speaker 1: redemption story in the NFL? What do he had? Mike? 1709 01:23:21,360 --> 01:23:24,479 Speaker 1: Good afternoon, Steve and John, Hi, thank you all right, 1710 01:23:24,880 --> 01:23:30,519 Speaker 1: I nominate Jim Kelly is my favorite redemption story. Tell 1711 01:23:30,600 --> 01:23:35,400 Speaker 1: us why I might explain it? Yeah, well, he inspired, Uh. 1712 01:23:35,960 --> 01:23:38,719 Speaker 1: He was my favorite from the first game he played 1713 01:23:38,800 --> 01:23:43,720 Speaker 1: with his toughness, his swag, he was just he was 1714 01:23:43,760 --> 01:23:47,559 Speaker 1: just buffalo. Where's the redemption part, though, Mike? What redemption 1715 01:23:48,360 --> 01:23:51,800 Speaker 1: took us to four Super Bowls? And you know, and 1716 01:23:52,160 --> 01:23:55,240 Speaker 1: we lost the four and and then he goes gets 1717 01:23:55,320 --> 01:23:57,760 Speaker 1: knocked out of the NFL and at Jackson go game 1718 01:23:57,840 --> 01:24:01,679 Speaker 1: and cart it off and then he goes through so much, 1719 01:24:02,280 --> 01:24:06,439 Speaker 1: he loses his son and then is dealing with cancer 1720 01:24:06,760 --> 01:24:09,280 Speaker 1: and just how he's a different man than the man 1721 01:24:09,439 --> 01:24:12,880 Speaker 1: that's uh played, but he's still Jim. That's the part 1722 01:24:12,960 --> 01:24:14,599 Speaker 1: I was when you get too much, and I'll take 1723 01:24:14,800 --> 01:24:16,120 Speaker 1: a really good point, that's the part that was what 1724 01:24:16,160 --> 01:24:19,000 Speaker 1: when you get it? I'm sorry, I'm sorry, go ahead. 1725 01:24:19,080 --> 01:24:22,719 Speaker 1: His post football life has been the story of redemption. 1726 01:24:22,880 --> 01:24:25,040 Speaker 1: You're right part Yeah, And you're right when you start 1727 01:24:25,200 --> 01:24:27,160 Speaker 1: talking about like that both of us, he got so much, Mike, 1728 01:24:27,200 --> 01:24:29,320 Speaker 1: I want to ask you a question, and this is 1729 01:24:29,800 --> 01:24:33,040 Speaker 1: only a half joking, what actor is going to play 1730 01:24:33,120 --> 01:24:36,200 Speaker 1: Jim Kelly in the story in the in the movie 1731 01:24:36,240 --> 01:24:38,720 Speaker 1: about his life? Because there's no question. It has been 1732 01:24:39,080 --> 01:24:41,560 Speaker 1: a roller coaster of the highest of highs and the 1733 01:24:41,640 --> 01:24:49,040 Speaker 1: lowest of lows, and he's come out an unbelievable certainly 1734 01:24:49,200 --> 01:24:54,759 Speaker 1: a regional treasure, if not a national treasure, an NFL treasure. 1735 01:24:55,280 --> 01:24:59,920 Speaker 1: Who plays him in the movie Charlton Heston, Charlton Heston's dead, 1736 01:25:01,640 --> 01:25:08,720 Speaker 1: I'm serious, would be literally resurrection. Is he dead? He 1737 01:25:08,880 --> 01:25:11,720 Speaker 1: was dead. That's a different guy, and it's apparent to 1738 01:25:12,560 --> 01:25:15,200 Speaker 1: everyone who knew him as a player and knows him now. 1739 01:25:15,640 --> 01:25:20,080 Speaker 1: But he's still Jim with the gym we loved. But uh, 1740 01:25:21,160 --> 01:25:23,960 Speaker 1: he's a remarkable new man. Who plays Jim Kelly in 1741 01:25:24,000 --> 01:25:28,000 Speaker 1: the movie I gotta pick a living Yeah, you gotta 1742 01:25:28,040 --> 01:25:31,479 Speaker 1: pick a living actor. Really all But the other thought 1743 01:25:31,560 --> 01:25:33,760 Speaker 1: that came to my mind. If you know the movie 1744 01:25:33,840 --> 01:25:39,400 Speaker 1: Grand Torino, Yeahswood when Clint dies at the end pulling 1745 01:25:39,439 --> 01:25:44,080 Speaker 1: the lighter right pocket, Yeah, back in the ground. I'll say, 1746 01:25:44,280 --> 01:25:47,200 Speaker 1: a younger Clint would play a great Jim Kelly. Well, 1747 01:25:47,520 --> 01:25:49,720 Speaker 1: he's not gonna do it either. Who do you got? 1748 01:25:49,760 --> 01:25:54,160 Speaker 1: You got an actor? That's not my script. You can 1749 01:25:54,240 --> 01:25:57,599 Speaker 1: make Josh Allen makeup look a little older. We'll let 1750 01:25:57,680 --> 01:25:59,679 Speaker 1: Josh play him. I don't know. I don't know either, 1751 01:25:59,800 --> 01:26:02,200 Speaker 1: just only because I know and love Jim. He's a 1752 01:26:02,240 --> 01:26:08,400 Speaker 1: friend of mine. Josh is too good looking. That's he 1753 01:26:08,479 --> 01:26:10,960 Speaker 1: can't have a player do it though? Who else would be? Who? 1754 01:26:11,760 --> 01:26:13,760 Speaker 1: That's a good question. That's a Twitter poll right there. 1755 01:26:13,880 --> 01:26:15,960 Speaker 1: It would be somebody out there. Yeah, right, that's a 1756 01:26:15,960 --> 01:26:18,320 Speaker 1: good You're right. Jim is a great redemption story, not 1757 01:26:18,600 --> 01:26:21,559 Speaker 1: for on a lot of different post football as well. 1758 01:26:22,720 --> 01:26:24,599 Speaker 1: To be the guy he was a first ballot Hall 1759 01:26:24,640 --> 01:26:29,120 Speaker 1: of Famer, than to have Hunter, his son, Um be 1760 01:26:29,200 --> 01:26:31,680 Speaker 1: afflicted with Crabe's disease and we lose him, and then 1761 01:26:31,760 --> 01:26:35,479 Speaker 1: Jim getting cancer and fighting that and and and beating 1762 01:26:35,520 --> 01:26:37,880 Speaker 1: it once and then having it going around again and 1763 01:26:37,960 --> 01:26:41,879 Speaker 1: beating it again, Um, And then to be the iconic 1764 01:26:42,280 --> 01:26:45,880 Speaker 1: public figure that he has been and the advocate that 1765 01:26:45,960 --> 01:26:48,519 Speaker 1: he has been, both on the governmental level, going to 1766 01:26:49,040 --> 01:26:52,720 Speaker 1: lobby the government, the state governments around the country to 1767 01:26:52,840 --> 01:26:55,280 Speaker 1: make it better for kids in their future who or 1768 01:26:55,320 --> 01:26:58,000 Speaker 1: maybe afflicted for this from this disease and their families. 1769 01:26:58,240 --> 01:27:01,160 Speaker 1: I mean, it's um you talk. Yeah, you're right. That's 1770 01:27:01,160 --> 01:27:02,920 Speaker 1: a great one, Mike, and I appreciate you calling in 1771 01:27:03,040 --> 01:27:06,960 Speaker 1: and letting us remember one of the guys. That's kind 1772 01:27:06,960 --> 01:27:08,960 Speaker 1: of right in the midst of us right now. Best 1773 01:27:09,040 --> 01:27:10,960 Speaker 1: redemption story in the NFL? Who do you got, John 1774 01:27:11,040 --> 01:27:12,640 Speaker 1: and Buffalo on the line? Go ahead, John, you're on 1775 01:27:12,720 --> 01:27:18,000 Speaker 1: the air. Steve, this is for you. If I added 1776 01:27:18,160 --> 01:27:22,160 Speaker 1: my way, you'd be in all of fame for your 1777 01:27:22,320 --> 01:27:28,400 Speaker 1: canatity on the special teams. All right, Wow, John, thanks 1778 01:27:28,439 --> 01:27:35,400 Speaker 1: for the call, Avid fan, here is it? Just go 1779 01:27:35,840 --> 01:27:40,599 Speaker 1: John and Jamestown. John, you're on the air, He Murf 1780 01:27:40,720 --> 01:27:43,600 Speaker 1: and Steve. Great to be on with you. I'm on 1781 01:27:43,720 --> 01:27:45,760 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame train as well. But I want 1782 01:27:45,800 --> 01:27:49,439 Speaker 1: to talk about Rocky Bayer today. Yeah. Oh that's a 1783 01:27:49,520 --> 01:27:54,559 Speaker 1: great one. Go ahead, best redemption story. Course, Rocky wounded 1784 01:27:54,640 --> 01:27:58,479 Speaker 1: in Vietnam and comes back and the Roo He's give 1785 01:27:58,560 --> 01:28:04,320 Speaker 1: him a chance to be a great player in the NFL. Yeah, 1786 01:28:04,400 --> 01:28:06,920 Speaker 1: an important player. Yeah, on a really great team, no 1787 01:28:07,040 --> 01:28:11,799 Speaker 1: question about it. Yeah, Rocky was blown up in combat 1788 01:28:12,040 --> 01:28:15,680 Speaker 1: and took him a long time to rehabilitate, and the 1789 01:28:15,920 --> 01:28:17,880 Speaker 1: Steelers did give him an opportunity. He made the most 1790 01:28:17,880 --> 01:28:19,400 Speaker 1: of it. That's a great story as well. And there 1791 01:28:19,560 --> 01:28:22,880 Speaker 1: there was Robert Yurick played Rocky Blyer in the movie, 1792 01:28:23,280 --> 01:28:27,960 Speaker 1: So there you go. That's that's already been casted out 1793 01:28:28,040 --> 01:28:31,479 Speaker 1: in the higher Wood. But we're lucky enough down here 1794 01:28:31,560 --> 01:28:36,000 Speaker 1: in Jamestown to have the medic that patched him up 1795 01:28:36,040 --> 01:28:39,840 Speaker 1: in a rice patty in Vietnam still with us today. 1796 01:28:39,960 --> 01:28:43,600 Speaker 1: And that is awesome. Bloom Chris is a cancer survivor 1797 01:28:43,760 --> 01:28:48,560 Speaker 1: and and but Rocky has sent him things over the 1798 01:28:48,680 --> 01:28:52,719 Speaker 1: years and acknowledged his role in saving his foot in Vietnam. 1799 01:28:53,240 --> 01:28:56,880 Speaker 1: That's awesome. Thank you. Thanks for Rex in town of 1800 01:28:56,920 --> 01:28:59,280 Speaker 1: want to go ahead, Rex around the hear best best 1801 01:28:59,320 --> 01:29:01,400 Speaker 1: player redemption story in the NFL. What do you think 1802 01:29:03,560 --> 01:29:07,920 Speaker 1: Rex no missed him? Jeff and Depew. Jeff, you have 1803 01:29:08,000 --> 01:29:11,160 Speaker 1: an idea on this? Yeah, I was just saying, I 1804 01:29:11,240 --> 01:29:13,400 Speaker 1: think Kurt Warner was there is on a Cardinals. You know, 1805 01:29:13,720 --> 01:29:15,680 Speaker 1: everybody knows his whole story, how he was pretty much 1806 01:29:15,720 --> 01:29:17,960 Speaker 1: written off by the NFL, and you know me to 1807 01:29:18,040 --> 01:29:20,040 Speaker 1: come back and you know it won a Super Bowl. 1808 01:29:20,160 --> 01:29:22,280 Speaker 1: So that was mine. Yeah, that's a good one. And 1809 01:29:22,360 --> 01:29:24,080 Speaker 1: we talked about as well. Murph and I are kind 1810 01:29:24,120 --> 01:29:27,000 Speaker 1: of I like Kurt. I know him. I'm well acquainted 1811 01:29:27,040 --> 01:29:29,040 Speaker 1: with him from my work with Westwood One Radio on 1812 01:29:29,160 --> 01:29:31,240 Speaker 1: Monday Night Football. He's the analyst, and I was on 1813 01:29:31,280 --> 01:29:33,160 Speaker 1: the sidelines for him on a handful of games, and 1814 01:29:33,680 --> 01:29:37,599 Speaker 1: so we crossed pass and I he absolute first ballot 1815 01:29:37,640 --> 01:29:40,360 Speaker 1: Hall of Famer, Hall of Fame person. But I think 1816 01:29:40,439 --> 01:29:42,640 Speaker 1: more than redemption, his story was more about getting a 1817 01:29:42,680 --> 01:29:46,000 Speaker 1: slow start and getting overlooked more than it was having 1818 01:29:46,520 --> 01:29:50,320 Speaker 1: the roof cave in on his career. He certainly had 1819 01:29:50,360 --> 01:29:53,480 Speaker 1: to climb out, though, and once he got an opportunity. 1820 01:29:54,400 --> 01:29:57,160 Speaker 1: I don't know that there's anyone who have come out 1821 01:29:57,240 --> 01:30:02,000 Speaker 1: of more out of nowhere. Thank Warner did go into 1822 01:30:02,080 --> 01:30:05,280 Speaker 1: a three time MVP Super Bowl winner, right, and even 1823 01:30:05,320 --> 01:30:07,360 Speaker 1: to follow him up, I mean even Carson Palmer, he 1824 01:30:07,400 --> 01:30:10,160 Speaker 1: was the same team and the cast trophic injury, he died, 1825 01:30:10,200 --> 01:30:12,680 Speaker 1: his career was over. He came back for the Carlos two, 1826 01:30:12,760 --> 01:30:15,400 Speaker 1: had a pretty successful a couple of years there after 1827 01:30:15,520 --> 01:30:19,720 Speaker 1: that injury. That's true, That's correct. Yeah, Warner Warner win 1828 01:30:19,760 --> 01:30:21,000 Speaker 1: in the Hall of Fame a couple of years ago. 1829 01:30:21,000 --> 01:30:22,880 Speaker 1: And I remember at the Super Bowl prior to that, 1830 01:30:23,160 --> 01:30:24,800 Speaker 1: he was a candidate for the Hall of Fame again, 1831 01:30:24,840 --> 01:30:26,360 Speaker 1: and I talked to him and I think a Fox, 1832 01:30:26,760 --> 01:30:28,560 Speaker 1: you know, they do the TV things, And you know 1833 01:30:28,600 --> 01:30:31,439 Speaker 1: what I got on this. He's great to talk with him. 1834 01:30:31,479 --> 01:30:34,240 Speaker 1: He's a wonderful person. We got onto it and I thought, 1835 01:30:34,280 --> 01:30:36,920 Speaker 1: this is maybe the most to me, this is just 1836 01:30:37,040 --> 01:30:39,679 Speaker 1: me talking. The most important thing about Kurt Warner's career 1837 01:30:39,760 --> 01:30:43,120 Speaker 1: that he took not one, but two different down and 1838 01:30:43,200 --> 01:30:46,000 Speaker 1: out franchises to the super Bowl. Right. He did it 1839 01:30:46,080 --> 01:30:47,880 Speaker 1: with the Rams and he did it again with Arizona, 1840 01:30:47,960 --> 01:30:52,160 Speaker 1: two different teams, two different situations. Is that redemption? I 1841 01:30:52,200 --> 01:30:53,600 Speaker 1: don't know. I do agree with you, it's more of 1842 01:30:53,640 --> 01:30:55,800 Speaker 1: a slow start. Once he got good, he was good. 1843 01:30:55,840 --> 01:30:58,200 Speaker 1: He was a really good NFL quarterback. But to lift 1844 01:30:58,280 --> 01:31:01,080 Speaker 1: up two different franchises get them to the super Bowl 1845 01:31:01,120 --> 01:31:04,200 Speaker 1: when they had no but nowhere near super Bowl history 1846 01:31:04,240 --> 01:31:06,479 Speaker 1: in their background, to me, is maybe the most significant 1847 01:31:06,520 --> 01:31:08,680 Speaker 1: thing about Kurt Warners And I agree, I agree, And 1848 01:31:08,960 --> 01:31:12,000 Speaker 1: he did it. He wasn't one hundred percent when he 1849 01:31:12,040 --> 01:31:13,680 Speaker 1: went with the Cardinals either. He could know he had 1850 01:31:13,680 --> 01:31:15,160 Speaker 1: to wear a glove when he threw the ball because 1851 01:31:15,160 --> 01:31:17,600 Speaker 1: his grip wasn't there. And and he was, you know, 1852 01:31:17,680 --> 01:31:21,120 Speaker 1: just a courageous effort to help that team and that 1853 01:31:21,600 --> 01:31:26,719 Speaker 1: you know, that's a game that was a phenomenal super Bowl. Steelers, 1854 01:31:26,800 --> 01:31:29,280 Speaker 1: the Steelers Cardinals game. So a lot of fun to 1855 01:31:29,320 --> 01:31:31,240 Speaker 1: watch it. And Kurt Warner is a great story and 1856 01:31:31,760 --> 01:31:33,840 Speaker 1: a great human being as well. I wonder who will 1857 01:31:33,880 --> 01:31:36,120 Speaker 1: played Kurt Warner in the movie We got a call 1858 01:31:36,280 --> 01:31:37,880 Speaker 1: on the line? Who has an answer for you? Steven 1859 01:31:37,920 --> 01:31:40,160 Speaker 1: who plays Jim Kelly in the movie Bran and Buffalo 1860 01:31:40,240 --> 01:31:43,840 Speaker 1: on the air? Go ahead, Brian, Yeah, hey guys, long 1861 01:31:43,920 --> 01:31:46,720 Speaker 1: time listener. Yeah, the guy that's got to play Jim 1862 01:31:46,800 --> 01:31:51,360 Speaker 1: in the movie Buffalo's Own William Fickner. Oh, yeah, that's right. 1863 01:31:51,520 --> 01:31:54,880 Speaker 1: Maybe yeah he uh, he was the narrator for the 1864 01:31:54,960 --> 01:31:59,320 Speaker 1: thirty for thirty four Falls of Buffalo. Yes, go ahead, yeah, yeah. 1865 01:31:59,360 --> 01:32:01,600 Speaker 1: He was a quarter back in the remake of The 1866 01:32:01,760 --> 01:32:05,000 Speaker 1: Longest Yard? Why not? Oh he was. I didn't know that, Okay, 1867 01:32:05,040 --> 01:32:07,320 Speaker 1: I didn't know that. He's a good guy. You've met him, Yeah, sure, 1868 01:32:07,360 --> 01:32:10,080 Speaker 1: he's a great guy. Yep. All right, we gotta take 1869 01:32:10,120 --> 01:32:11,719 Speaker 1: a break. We're gonna come back. We're gonna talk about 1870 01:32:11,720 --> 01:32:14,240 Speaker 1: the draft with Dan Shaka. He is editor publisher of 1871 01:32:14,320 --> 01:32:17,880 Speaker 1: Our Lad's twenty nineteen Guy to the NFL Draft. Come 1872 01:32:17,920 --> 01:32:20,040 Speaker 1: on back, one goes live from One Bills Drive. This 1873 01:32:20,200 --> 01:32:35,080 Speaker 1: is Buffalo Bills Radio. Hello, Bills Radio Network Sports if 1874 01:32:35,160 --> 01:32:37,479 Speaker 1: they comes from one Bill's Drive where there were players 1875 01:32:37,560 --> 01:32:41,160 Speaker 1: here today. Day one of the voluntary offseason conditioning program 1876 01:32:41,280 --> 01:32:43,800 Speaker 1: started early this morning. Bills players, most of them have 1877 01:32:43,880 --> 01:32:46,320 Speaker 1: wrapped it up by now. Meetings a little bit after 1878 01:32:46,400 --> 01:32:48,760 Speaker 1: the workouts on the field. A lot of conditioning work. 1879 01:32:48,960 --> 01:32:52,799 Speaker 1: Phase one featuring conditioning and strength workouts, no positional work allowed. 1880 01:32:53,240 --> 01:32:56,080 Speaker 1: Players who need rehab can get that treatment. This phase 1881 01:32:56,200 --> 01:32:58,599 Speaker 1: goes on for two weeks. The Bills in phase one 1882 01:32:58,640 --> 01:33:02,320 Speaker 1: of their voluntary season conditioning program. Today, Bills are going 1883 01:33:02,360 --> 01:33:04,840 Speaker 1: to meet with the top defensive tackle prospect before the 1884 01:33:04,960 --> 01:33:07,160 Speaker 1: draft in a week and a half. Bills reportedly have 1885 01:33:07,240 --> 01:33:10,320 Speaker 1: a visit on the schedule today with Alabama defensive tackle 1886 01:33:10,439 --> 01:33:13,240 Speaker 1: Quinn and Williams reportedly will make the rounds. All Over 1887 01:33:13,560 --> 01:33:15,519 Speaker 1: is meeting with the Giants and the Jets also in 1888 01:33:15,560 --> 01:33:17,479 Speaker 1: the next couple of days. If the Bills gonna get 1889 01:33:17,560 --> 01:33:19,320 Speaker 1: Quinnon Williams, they would like to have to move up 1890 01:33:19,520 --> 01:33:21,799 Speaker 1: from their current spot on the draft, which is nine. Overall. 1891 01:33:22,000 --> 01:33:24,519 Speaker 1: They have needs on the defensive line with the offseason 1892 01:33:24,640 --> 01:33:29,160 Speaker 1: retirement of defensive tackle Kyle Williams. Quarterback Russell Wilson reportedly 1893 01:33:29,240 --> 01:33:31,880 Speaker 1: does not intend to sign a contract extension with the 1894 01:33:31,920 --> 01:33:34,479 Speaker 1: Seahawks if they can't get a deal before his self 1895 01:33:34,520 --> 01:33:38,880 Speaker 1: imposed deadline of midnight. Adam Schefter of ESPN says discussions 1896 01:33:38,880 --> 01:33:40,840 Speaker 1: on a new deal are ongoing in an effort to 1897 01:33:40,920 --> 01:33:43,519 Speaker 1: reach a deal prior to the deadline. Russell Wilson, thirty 1898 01:33:43,560 --> 01:33:45,880 Speaker 1: years old, entering the final year of a four year, 1899 01:33:45,960 --> 01:33:48,640 Speaker 1: eighty seven point six million dollars deal he signed in 1900 01:33:48,800 --> 01:33:52,240 Speaker 1: July twenty fifteen. Hockey Stanley Cup playoffs resumed tonight with 1901 01:33:52,320 --> 01:33:55,160 Speaker 1: four games. Boston and Toronto played Game three of their 1902 01:33:55,240 --> 01:33:58,080 Speaker 1: first round matchup. That series tied at one win apiece. 1903 01:33:58,360 --> 01:34:01,439 Speaker 1: That game coming up in Toronto tonight. The Washington Capitols 1904 01:34:01,520 --> 01:34:03,840 Speaker 1: play at Carolina Game three of that series. The Caps 1905 01:34:03,920 --> 01:34:06,360 Speaker 1: lead the series two games to none. Nashville plays at 1906 01:34:06,439 --> 01:34:09,240 Speaker 1: Dallas Game three with the series tied at one apiece, 1907 01:34:09,479 --> 01:34:11,880 Speaker 1: and out West at ten o'clock tonight, Game three of 1908 01:34:11,960 --> 01:34:15,320 Speaker 1: the Calgary Colorado series. That series tied at one win apiece. 1909 01:34:15,400 --> 01:34:18,320 Speaker 1: Bisons swept in Scranton over the weekend. They've now lost 1910 01:34:18,400 --> 01:34:20,760 Speaker 1: seven in a row. They lost to Scranton nine to 1911 01:34:20,840 --> 01:34:23,240 Speaker 1: five yesterday. Now they opened a three game series in 1912 01:34:23,320 --> 01:34:26,200 Speaker 1: Pawtucket against the Red Sox tonight six so five. Right 1913 01:34:26,240 --> 01:34:29,080 Speaker 1: handed pitcher Jacob wegisback gets the start for the Bisons. 1914 01:34:29,240 --> 01:34:32,240 Speaker 1: Bisons come back home to start a new homestand later 1915 01:34:32,360 --> 01:34:34,720 Speaker 1: this week. And that's the update from One Bills Drive. 1916 01:34:34,800 --> 01:34:37,759 Speaker 1: Welcome to our three John Murphy, Steve Tasker, One Bills 1917 01:34:37,800 --> 01:34:39,840 Speaker 1: Live from One Bill's Drive. You're gonna talk about the 1918 01:34:39,920 --> 01:34:42,400 Speaker 1: draft now that we're just what ten days away from 1919 01:34:42,400 --> 01:34:44,680 Speaker 1: around one of the draft and joining us on the 1920 01:34:44,800 --> 01:34:46,640 Speaker 1: line right now as a man who puts together the 1921 01:34:46,840 --> 01:34:49,519 Speaker 1: Our Lads Scouting Service two thousand and nine Guide to 1922 01:34:49,600 --> 01:34:53,080 Speaker 1: the NHL Draft, Our Lads editor publisher Dan Shanka on 1923 01:34:53,160 --> 01:34:55,600 Speaker 1: the line. Dan, thanks for coming on, John Murphy and 1924 01:34:55,600 --> 01:34:58,679 Speaker 1: Steve Tasker up here in Buffalo. How are you good? 1925 01:34:58,880 --> 01:35:01,599 Speaker 1: John and Steve to be with you again. The reason 1926 01:35:01,640 --> 01:35:03,559 Speaker 1: why I had the idea to get you out because 1927 01:35:03,760 --> 01:35:06,320 Speaker 1: over the weekend I just got your twenty nineteen NFL 1928 01:35:06,479 --> 01:35:09,120 Speaker 1: Draft Guide in the mail. I await this with bated 1929 01:35:09,200 --> 01:35:11,479 Speaker 1: breath every year, and you do not disappoint Dana. It's 1930 01:35:11,479 --> 01:35:14,599 Speaker 1: a great book. Thank you very much. Will we try 1931 01:35:14,640 --> 01:35:16,720 Speaker 1: to have you know we're a little bit different than 1932 01:35:16,840 --> 01:35:18,960 Speaker 1: a lot of people out there. All our stuff is 1933 01:35:19,400 --> 01:35:22,960 Speaker 1: written by scouts and or coaches or a combination of 1934 01:35:23,120 --> 01:35:26,439 Speaker 1: you know, NFL coaches that and so we kind of 1935 01:35:26,600 --> 01:35:28,840 Speaker 1: you know, got a lot of meat and not too much, 1936 01:35:29,680 --> 01:35:33,160 Speaker 1: not too much. We got not civil but meat. Yeah, 1937 01:35:33,479 --> 01:35:35,400 Speaker 1: there's no pictures in it. I love that about it. 1938 01:35:35,479 --> 01:35:40,200 Speaker 1: It's all data. It's all information, not one p Yeah, 1939 01:35:40,280 --> 01:35:43,479 Speaker 1: that's all. It's all information. That's good stuff. I gotta 1940 01:35:43,479 --> 01:35:46,200 Speaker 1: ask you what's the most intriguing is a lot of drafts, 1941 01:35:46,560 --> 01:35:49,160 Speaker 1: and I guess there's some uncertainty every year. Do you 1942 01:35:49,240 --> 01:35:51,439 Speaker 1: think this draft of the top five or top ten 1943 01:35:51,840 --> 01:35:54,479 Speaker 1: of this draft is there's more uncertainty this year or 1944 01:35:54,600 --> 01:35:58,120 Speaker 1: less uncertainty about what teams are going to do? Steve, 1945 01:35:58,280 --> 01:36:01,800 Speaker 1: I think there's uncertainty through two hundred and fifty four. 1946 01:36:02,880 --> 01:36:06,040 Speaker 1: You know this, this is this is really this is 1947 01:36:06,400 --> 01:36:09,840 Speaker 1: really unbelievable because you know, so many of these guys 1948 01:36:09,920 --> 01:36:14,400 Speaker 1: came out of his underclassmen in January, and you know 1949 01:36:14,479 --> 01:36:17,000 Speaker 1: you're studying these you know, the seniors and then the 1950 01:36:17,080 --> 01:36:19,519 Speaker 1: juniors think are coming out, but all these guys are 1951 01:36:19,560 --> 01:36:22,240 Speaker 1: coming out, and you've got to vet all these guys. 1952 01:36:22,280 --> 01:36:24,680 Speaker 1: You've got to study all these guys, and you know, 1953 01:36:24,760 --> 01:36:28,960 Speaker 1: I don't know if everybody you know teams obviously you 1954 01:36:29,040 --> 01:36:31,639 Speaker 1: know they got those areas. Scout zeroed in on guys 1955 01:36:31,640 --> 01:36:33,679 Speaker 1: who come out in their area and their cross checkers 1956 01:36:33,800 --> 01:36:37,280 Speaker 1: and then uh over the top guys and everything. But well, 1957 01:36:37,280 --> 01:36:38,960 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, it's hard when you don't have 1958 01:36:39,040 --> 01:36:41,120 Speaker 1: a book but a year on a kid, you know, 1959 01:36:41,360 --> 01:36:44,120 Speaker 1: I mean, you look at the top two quarterbacks, Well 1960 01:36:44,120 --> 01:36:46,040 Speaker 1: they played a year, you know what I mean, And 1961 01:36:46,160 --> 01:36:47,800 Speaker 1: you look at some of these other guys. So I 1962 01:36:47,880 --> 01:36:52,120 Speaker 1: think it's really tough to nail down guys unless they 1963 01:36:52,240 --> 01:36:55,479 Speaker 1: pay played you know, three at least three years, and 1964 01:36:55,600 --> 01:36:59,040 Speaker 1: if they played four, that's tremendous. Did let me ask you. 1965 01:36:59,320 --> 01:37:01,240 Speaker 1: One of the great things about our Lad's Guide, the 1966 01:37:01,760 --> 01:37:05,519 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen Draft Guide is the team by team need list. 1967 01:37:05,600 --> 01:37:08,360 Speaker 1: You have the roster, complete roster for all thirty two teams, 1968 01:37:08,600 --> 01:37:10,360 Speaker 1: and you go through what they need in the draft. 1969 01:37:10,400 --> 01:37:12,719 Speaker 1: For the Bills, I think, like most people, you believe 1970 01:37:12,800 --> 01:37:15,000 Speaker 1: defensive line is a critical area that the Bills have 1971 01:37:15,120 --> 01:37:18,360 Speaker 1: to shore up. Right it is? Yeah, it is, And 1972 01:37:19,040 --> 01:37:22,240 Speaker 1: you know, but I tell you Kyle Williams him retire 1973 01:37:22,320 --> 01:37:24,880 Speaker 1: and what a great football player loved watching him over 1974 01:37:24,960 --> 01:37:27,640 Speaker 1: the years, and uh, you know, but things you got 1975 01:37:27,760 --> 01:37:29,600 Speaker 1: to be shot up up front a little bit. But 1976 01:37:29,680 --> 01:37:32,479 Speaker 1: you know, Harrison Phillips, he's a really good football player, 1977 01:37:32,520 --> 01:37:34,080 Speaker 1: I think, and he's got to take another step off 1978 01:37:34,240 --> 01:37:36,840 Speaker 1: this year. But there's you know, some more needs up front. 1979 01:37:36,920 --> 01:37:39,960 Speaker 1: Like you said, what do you think is is the 1980 01:37:40,080 --> 01:37:43,080 Speaker 1: likelihood that the you know, that something doesn't happen to 1981 01:37:43,120 --> 01:37:46,080 Speaker 1: the Bills. What's your advice to because this we've heard 1982 01:37:46,080 --> 01:37:48,040 Speaker 1: our draft guys say that this is a very strong 1983 01:37:48,160 --> 01:37:50,400 Speaker 1: draft in the middle rounds. What are the likelihood that 1984 01:37:50,640 --> 01:37:53,200 Speaker 1: some of these teams, including the Bills, draft out of 1985 01:37:53,240 --> 01:37:55,519 Speaker 1: that spot in the top ten, pick up a couple 1986 01:37:55,560 --> 01:37:57,960 Speaker 1: of mid round draft picks and just try to acquire 1987 01:37:58,080 --> 01:38:00,680 Speaker 1: more picks rather than keeping the leap picks at the 1988 01:38:00,680 --> 01:38:04,439 Speaker 1: top ten. Well, theoretically, in this graft it would be 1989 01:38:04,439 --> 01:38:06,479 Speaker 1: a great thing to do, but you always got to 1990 01:38:06,520 --> 01:38:09,200 Speaker 1: have a dance partner to do it with. And you know, 1991 01:38:09,880 --> 01:38:12,760 Speaker 1: thirty two teams maybe taking the same thing, you know, 1992 01:38:13,080 --> 01:38:15,720 Speaker 1: And so because it is, like I said, it is 1993 01:38:15,720 --> 01:38:18,160 Speaker 1: a pol pari. This year of you know, a year 1994 01:38:18,280 --> 01:38:22,599 Speaker 1: started seeing guys getting grabbed from needs maybe earlier than normal. 1995 01:38:22,760 --> 01:38:25,320 Speaker 1: Than maybe just take him the best player and what 1996 01:38:25,520 --> 01:38:28,200 Speaker 1: have you. But no, I think you know the bills 1997 01:38:28,240 --> 01:38:30,639 Speaker 1: that probably like trade down, pick up some more picks 1998 01:38:30,720 --> 01:38:33,960 Speaker 1: and things. But sometimes you get stuck and if you're 1999 01:38:34,520 --> 01:38:37,000 Speaker 1: jammed right there, then you got to go ahead and 2000 01:38:37,640 --> 01:38:40,559 Speaker 1: you know, take who your top player is on your 2001 01:38:40,600 --> 01:38:43,840 Speaker 1: board there and there's gonna be some good ones there. 2002 01:38:43,880 --> 01:38:46,599 Speaker 1: I think at nine for Buffalo, well, in your mock drets, 2003 01:38:46,640 --> 01:38:48,759 Speaker 1: and you do have a mock draft, you have Christian Wilkins, 2004 01:38:48,840 --> 01:38:52,320 Speaker 1: the defensive tackle from Clemson going to Buffalo at nine overall. 2005 01:38:52,640 --> 01:38:54,479 Speaker 1: Tell us about him, and tell us, does he merit 2006 01:38:54,560 --> 01:38:57,240 Speaker 1: being in the top ten? Do you think, Dan? You know, 2007 01:38:57,479 --> 01:39:01,080 Speaker 1: I really like him because here's a guy, super smart, 2008 01:39:01,520 --> 01:39:06,479 Speaker 1: he's a four year guy. He's a blue collar, hard working. Um. 2009 01:39:07,160 --> 01:39:09,719 Speaker 1: I mean to me, he's you know, we talk about 2010 01:39:09,800 --> 01:39:14,480 Speaker 1: Jekyl and Hide football players. This guy here, he's just tremendous, 2011 01:39:14,640 --> 01:39:18,240 Speaker 1: tremendous hard worker on the field and just a great 2012 01:39:18,439 --> 01:39:21,920 Speaker 1: human being off the field. And uh, I mean you 2013 01:39:22,040 --> 01:39:24,240 Speaker 1: can't go wrong with guys like that. I mean, this 2014 01:39:24,400 --> 01:39:27,599 Speaker 1: is this guy will give it to you every single down, Alex, 2015 01:39:27,800 --> 01:39:29,800 Speaker 1: you know, Kyle Williams, I mean, you get in there 2016 01:39:29,880 --> 01:39:33,400 Speaker 1: and he'll just uh give in. Plus, he's very versatile. 2017 01:39:33,439 --> 01:39:35,720 Speaker 1: He can go with defensive end, you know, or he 2018 01:39:35,840 --> 01:39:37,760 Speaker 1: can go in. I mean he'd be not a pass 2019 01:39:37,880 --> 01:39:40,080 Speaker 1: rusher now, he'd be a run stuffer, but he can 2020 01:39:40,160 --> 01:39:43,240 Speaker 1: go get kicked inside and play you know, any kind 2021 01:39:43,240 --> 01:39:45,559 Speaker 1: of skip because you know Leslie Frazer're he gonna mix 2022 01:39:45,680 --> 01:39:48,360 Speaker 1: up stuff up front and everything. He could slide guys 2023 01:39:48,400 --> 01:39:49,920 Speaker 1: one way or another. I mean, if you're in a 2024 01:39:50,040 --> 01:39:52,280 Speaker 1: three man front, you know, he could play the angle 2025 01:39:52,400 --> 01:39:54,840 Speaker 1: nose inside, or he can go with the defensive end 2026 01:39:54,840 --> 01:39:57,080 Speaker 1: the four man front, or he's stick him at defensive tackle. 2027 01:39:57,439 --> 01:40:00,759 Speaker 1: He's very versatile. I think I'm I'm not sure about 2028 01:40:00,840 --> 01:40:02,600 Speaker 1: this because I don't really check out a lot of 2029 01:40:02,640 --> 01:40:06,040 Speaker 1: other ones, but I think we're probably higher on Wilkins 2030 01:40:06,120 --> 01:40:09,040 Speaker 1: and most people, but for the reasons I gave you, 2031 01:40:09,280 --> 01:40:11,679 Speaker 1: because he's smart and a great football player. It seems 2032 01:40:11,680 --> 01:40:14,400 Speaker 1: like everybody you talk about another defensive lineman who now 2033 01:40:14,720 --> 01:40:17,040 Speaker 1: and it always happens at this point, when you're inside 2034 01:40:17,080 --> 01:40:19,840 Speaker 1: a week two weeks of the draft, you start getting 2035 01:40:19,920 --> 01:40:21,920 Speaker 1: other names thrown. At the top pick of the draft. 2036 01:40:22,040 --> 01:40:24,000 Speaker 1: Nick Bosa is a guy that everybody knows he's going 2037 01:40:24,040 --> 01:40:26,280 Speaker 1: to be a really good pro. He's got a great pedigree, 2038 01:40:26,360 --> 01:40:28,720 Speaker 1: all of that. Is he good enough to be the 2039 01:40:28,800 --> 01:40:31,000 Speaker 1: top pick of the draft? Well he lure Arizona away 2040 01:40:31,040 --> 01:40:34,760 Speaker 1: from Kyler Murray. Well, you know, I think that's the 2041 01:40:34,840 --> 01:40:37,720 Speaker 1: thing that we're kind of talking about. Because of the 2042 01:40:38,479 --> 01:40:40,960 Speaker 1: variety of players. If you talk to eight or nine 2043 01:40:41,000 --> 01:40:44,160 Speaker 1: different scouts or general managers, they want to have eight 2044 01:40:44,280 --> 01:40:46,599 Speaker 1: or nine people they like at the number one pick, 2045 01:40:46,800 --> 01:40:49,760 Speaker 1: you know, and for the right reasons. But I mean 2046 01:40:49,920 --> 01:40:56,120 Speaker 1: to me, since there's no say, premier premier quarterback, or 2047 01:40:56,400 --> 01:41:02,120 Speaker 1: premier left tackle or premier warner, Now you know your 2048 01:41:02,200 --> 01:41:05,120 Speaker 1: fourth you know spot you've kind of taken. And when 2049 01:41:05,160 --> 01:41:07,559 Speaker 1: you look at putting together a team. Is a pass 2050 01:41:07,680 --> 01:41:11,200 Speaker 1: rusher and he is a supreme league gifted pass rusher, 2051 01:41:11,520 --> 01:41:13,800 Speaker 1: so he would deserve to go at number one. Hey, 2052 01:41:13,840 --> 01:41:16,719 Speaker 1: he's not gonna win any you know, athletic contest, running 2053 01:41:16,760 --> 01:41:20,320 Speaker 1: forties and all that. But his hand is the ability 2054 01:41:20,360 --> 01:41:22,920 Speaker 1: to use his hands the slip blocks, to get up, 2055 01:41:23,320 --> 01:41:26,559 Speaker 1: to turn the fend, to get around the edge. Flattened down, 2056 01:41:26,760 --> 01:41:29,720 Speaker 1: knocked off plays be disruptive on the inside, even though 2057 01:41:29,800 --> 01:41:32,960 Speaker 1: the plays away. Anybody's like coming up inside. You know, 2058 01:41:33,040 --> 01:41:36,640 Speaker 1: he can knock him off, you know, make a tackle there. Uh. 2059 01:41:36,840 --> 01:41:40,160 Speaker 1: He just you know, he's just a very disruptive football player. 2060 01:41:40,240 --> 01:41:42,559 Speaker 1: And I think, you know, he's certainly deserved to go one, 2061 01:41:42,800 --> 01:41:45,559 Speaker 1: and I personally think the Cardinals are to take him 2062 01:41:45,560 --> 01:41:48,520 Speaker 1: at one. On the line with Dan Schanka, editor publisher 2063 01:41:48,720 --> 01:41:52,000 Speaker 1: of Our Lads Guide to the NFL Draft. Um let's 2064 01:41:52,280 --> 01:41:54,519 Speaker 1: so you do it both as your top rated player. 2065 01:41:54,600 --> 01:41:57,839 Speaker 1: Our Lads also has a value board everybody ranked, everybody 2066 01:41:57,880 --> 01:42:00,000 Speaker 1: available in the draft. I was surprised to see him 2067 01:42:00,080 --> 01:42:02,599 Speaker 1: number two a quarterback, and that's the one I expected. 2068 01:42:02,680 --> 01:42:06,120 Speaker 1: You've got the Dwayne Haskins, Ohio State quarterback as your 2069 01:42:06,200 --> 01:42:08,679 Speaker 1: number two ranked player in the draft and your first 2070 01:42:08,760 --> 01:42:10,960 Speaker 1: quarterback off the board ahead of Kyler Murray. Tell me 2071 01:42:11,000 --> 01:42:14,439 Speaker 1: about that equation, if you would please in Yeah, John 2072 01:42:14,520 --> 01:42:17,479 Speaker 1: and Steve, you if you remember last year we were 2073 01:42:18,000 --> 01:42:22,040 Speaker 1: waving the flag for baker Wayfield play ahead everybody else, 2074 01:42:22,080 --> 01:42:26,040 Speaker 1: I mean probably a year before anybody else. And you know, 2075 01:42:26,520 --> 01:42:29,400 Speaker 1: there's things that you gotta have or you know, you've 2076 01:42:29,439 --> 01:42:32,720 Speaker 1: got to be accurate and you've got to make great decisions. 2077 01:42:32,880 --> 01:42:34,479 Speaker 1: You've got to have those two things and then of 2078 01:42:34,520 --> 01:42:37,360 Speaker 1: course there's you know, all kinds of other criteria that 2079 01:42:37,479 --> 01:42:42,120 Speaker 1: you're looking at and critical factors in a quarterback. But 2080 01:42:42,760 --> 01:42:46,000 Speaker 1: in Halfton's all he had one year, So that's probably 2081 01:42:46,080 --> 01:42:48,599 Speaker 1: why that Maybe I'm not waving a flag for him 2082 01:42:48,680 --> 01:42:52,400 Speaker 1: one step higher, but he is a guy that just 2083 01:42:52,600 --> 01:42:57,160 Speaker 1: got better and better through the year. Very poised, very smart, 2084 01:42:57,400 --> 01:43:01,040 Speaker 1: hard worker, very accurate. He puts the ball like even 2085 01:43:01,080 --> 01:43:03,680 Speaker 1: in his workout there in Ohio State. You know, he's 2086 01:43:03,760 --> 01:43:05,760 Speaker 1: kind of playing pretend out there a little bit a game. 2087 01:43:05,840 --> 01:43:09,200 Speaker 1: There's a defensive back now covering my wide receiver on 2088 01:43:09,280 --> 01:43:11,439 Speaker 1: his back hip. I can only throw it to the 2089 01:43:11,560 --> 01:43:14,320 Speaker 1: outside shoulder of him and get him over the top. 2090 01:43:14,560 --> 01:43:16,479 Speaker 1: And I mean he wouldn't just throwing the ball on 2091 01:43:16,600 --> 01:43:18,599 Speaker 1: like a line. He would put it where it had 2092 01:43:18,680 --> 01:43:21,599 Speaker 1: to be to keep that ball away from a defensive back. 2093 01:43:21,640 --> 01:43:23,200 Speaker 1: He even did that when he's working in the red 2094 01:43:23,280 --> 01:43:26,800 Speaker 1: zone out there at the receiver foot blace pretenders linebackers there, 2095 01:43:27,000 --> 01:43:30,080 Speaker 1: which everybody knows, at your enemy, it's about your defensive 2096 01:43:30,120 --> 01:43:33,040 Speaker 1: back and throlls linebackers in their drop man. He put 2097 01:43:33,080 --> 01:43:35,479 Speaker 1: it he pretended to a linebacker there. He throw it 2098 01:43:35,640 --> 01:43:38,080 Speaker 1: right over the top. And so it was really cool 2099 01:43:38,160 --> 01:43:40,360 Speaker 1: to see that. And anyway, I just think he's an 2100 01:43:40,400 --> 01:43:43,520 Speaker 1: ascending player and in our mind he's the best quarterback. 2101 01:43:43,600 --> 01:43:46,840 Speaker 1: He's durable, and I just think that, you know, he's 2102 01:43:46,920 --> 01:43:49,280 Speaker 1: the guy. If I was a giant, I would be 2103 01:43:49,360 --> 01:43:52,280 Speaker 1: all over him. At Yeah, that's a good it's a 2104 01:43:52,439 --> 01:43:54,640 Speaker 1: great observation. He does seem to be more of the 2105 01:43:54,760 --> 01:43:57,559 Speaker 1: type of quarterback you see in the NFL rather than college, 2106 01:43:57,600 --> 01:44:00,320 Speaker 1: whereas Kyler Murray, who looks to be and maybe the 2107 01:44:00,600 --> 01:44:03,519 Speaker 1: top pick of the draft, is not that prototypical guy. 2108 01:44:03,560 --> 01:44:06,160 Speaker 1: Where does Kyler Murray and his abilities fall in this draft? 2109 01:44:06,800 --> 01:44:10,800 Speaker 1: And just strictly value in and the value since right, well, 2110 01:44:10,840 --> 01:44:13,200 Speaker 1: he's a true system guy and that's the thing. His 2111 01:44:13,400 --> 01:44:16,759 Speaker 1: value is where if you've got somebody to run that offense. 2112 01:44:17,240 --> 01:44:21,599 Speaker 1: And but the thing is, you know, incorporated that value, 2113 01:44:21,760 --> 01:44:24,800 Speaker 1: you've got to have some durability. I mean, I don't 2114 01:44:24,800 --> 01:44:26,880 Speaker 1: know if you've seen Kyler or Murray in person. Now, 2115 01:44:26,960 --> 01:44:29,519 Speaker 1: he's a very small bone guy. You know, I don't 2116 01:44:29,560 --> 01:44:32,040 Speaker 1: care if he's weigh two o seven all that, he's 2117 01:44:32,120 --> 01:44:33,960 Speaker 1: kind of beefed up and eight a couple of lemon 2118 01:44:34,120 --> 01:44:36,400 Speaker 1: rang fives or something. I think before weighing, you know. 2119 01:44:36,640 --> 01:44:39,200 Speaker 1: But and then even if I think he, I don't think. 2120 01:44:39,240 --> 01:44:41,439 Speaker 1: I think those guys that were measuring him at the 2121 01:44:41,479 --> 01:44:43,800 Speaker 1: combine were afraid to put the t square right through 2122 01:44:43,880 --> 01:44:46,120 Speaker 1: his you know, mohawk up there to get it flat 2123 01:44:46,160 --> 01:44:48,719 Speaker 1: where it really goes, because he's really like five nine. 2124 01:44:48,800 --> 01:44:52,759 Speaker 1: But anyway, he's a tremendous athlete. But I mean, Steve, 2125 01:44:52,840 --> 01:44:56,360 Speaker 1: you're an exception. I mean, you see you first hand. 2126 01:44:56,479 --> 01:44:59,080 Speaker 1: When you get hit, it's like a mack truck. You're 2127 01:44:59,160 --> 01:45:01,360 Speaker 1: running you over. And I just don't think he can 2128 01:45:01,400 --> 01:45:05,160 Speaker 1: hold up physically. And uh, I mean he's gonna get Hey, 2129 01:45:05,240 --> 01:45:07,960 Speaker 1: yere fifty five nine, five ten quarterbacks. I mean, one 2130 01:45:07,960 --> 01:45:10,519 Speaker 1: of the greatest of all time in my opinion, And 2131 01:45:10,680 --> 01:45:12,679 Speaker 1: I think a lot of people finding it was Doug Flutie, 2132 01:45:12,960 --> 01:45:15,280 Speaker 1: you know, and Doug, you know, and it's a different 2133 01:45:15,320 --> 01:45:17,559 Speaker 1: ball game now, and thanks thanks a little more wide open. 2134 01:45:17,680 --> 01:45:20,400 Speaker 1: But you know, Murray didn't. He didn't throw to his 2135 01:45:20,600 --> 01:45:23,160 Speaker 1: receivers are all wide open. He's I tell you what, 2136 01:45:23,240 --> 01:45:25,320 Speaker 1: you could almost cut on one hand how many tight 2137 01:45:25,439 --> 01:45:27,920 Speaker 1: windows he threw into. And when he did, it was 2138 01:45:27,960 --> 01:45:30,920 Speaker 1: a bad decision because usually a double or triple covered 2139 01:45:31,080 --> 01:45:33,080 Speaker 1: and he's threw it up there to receiver hope of 2140 01:45:33,160 --> 01:45:35,960 Speaker 1: his receivers would make the play. So I just think that, 2141 01:45:36,720 --> 01:45:39,360 Speaker 1: you know, his value is if he doesn't go to 2142 01:45:39,960 --> 01:45:42,360 Speaker 1: which you know, I think everybody thinks he's gonna go 2143 01:45:42,439 --> 01:45:45,240 Speaker 1: to Arizona, But I mean I wouldn't take him there, 2144 01:45:45,320 --> 01:45:47,439 Speaker 1: But that's up to Arizona. They make a lot of 2145 01:45:47,479 --> 01:45:51,160 Speaker 1: decisions on first round draft choices aren't very good, so 2146 01:45:51,680 --> 01:45:53,960 Speaker 1: that that might be another one we'll see down the road. 2147 01:45:54,080 --> 01:45:57,080 Speaker 1: But anyway, um, you know, he's probably gonna end up 2148 01:45:57,120 --> 01:46:00,400 Speaker 1: fall and maybe get down to Cincinnati if that ideas 2149 01:46:00,479 --> 01:46:03,280 Speaker 1: next stop. If if he doesn't go, you know, go 2150 01:46:03,479 --> 01:46:08,479 Speaker 1: one to Arizona. Hey, your comments on quarterbacks, Haskins versus 2151 01:46:08,560 --> 01:46:12,120 Speaker 1: Kyler's got me re energized about next week's draft, and 2152 01:46:12,200 --> 01:46:14,280 Speaker 1: I'm sure many others as well. Dan tell us, if 2153 01:46:14,360 --> 01:46:16,360 Speaker 1: folks can still get the book right, the Draft Guide, 2154 01:46:16,360 --> 01:46:19,720 Speaker 1: they can order it online somewhere everything. Oh yeah, absolutely. 2155 01:46:19,840 --> 01:46:22,880 Speaker 1: They go to our website at our lasts dot com 2156 01:46:23,560 --> 01:46:27,680 Speaker 1: and there's a subscription, a little button and stuff. You 2157 01:46:27,880 --> 01:46:30,240 Speaker 1: click up there and you can order online, or you 2158 01:46:30,280 --> 01:46:33,080 Speaker 1: can give us a phone call at one eight hundred 2159 01:46:33,240 --> 01:46:37,479 Speaker 1: pro draft and we'll have operators are ready to take 2160 01:46:37,560 --> 01:46:40,479 Speaker 1: your calls and get it out today. So at our 2161 01:46:40,560 --> 01:46:43,720 Speaker 1: Last dot com and uh, you know it's it's a 2162 01:46:44,040 --> 01:46:47,920 Speaker 1: draft guide written really it's for you know, people that 2163 01:46:48,040 --> 01:46:50,320 Speaker 1: are really really a raft. I know what. The all 2164 01:46:50,360 --> 01:46:52,840 Speaker 1: the Bills fans up there are great fans. We got 2165 01:46:52,880 --> 01:46:55,720 Speaker 1: a lot of Bills subscribers, so we appreciate it. Yeah, 2166 01:46:55,720 --> 01:46:57,200 Speaker 1: I'm one of them. Dan, thanks for this. I have 2167 01:46:57,240 --> 01:47:00,240 Speaker 1: a great draft. We'll talk again soon. Thank you, Thank 2168 01:47:00,240 --> 01:47:02,920 Speaker 1: you so much, guys. Okay, all right, Dan Shanka, editor 2169 01:47:03,000 --> 01:47:06,120 Speaker 1: publisher of our Lands Guide to the NFL Draft twenty 2170 01:47:06,439 --> 01:47:08,840 Speaker 1: nineteen NFL Draft Guide is available. Got it in the 2171 01:47:08,880 --> 01:47:10,960 Speaker 1: mail over the weekend. You can go to our Lands 2172 01:47:11,040 --> 01:47:13,880 Speaker 1: dot com for more information on that. I meant it 2173 01:47:13,920 --> 01:47:17,679 Speaker 1: when I said his take on Haskins and Kyler Murray 2174 01:47:17,800 --> 01:47:19,479 Speaker 1: and where we're at with that kind of gets me. 2175 01:47:20,320 --> 01:47:22,560 Speaker 1: Not that I was losing interest in the draft, but 2176 01:47:22,680 --> 01:47:27,640 Speaker 1: for since what since the combine ed to March, everybody's considered, well, 2177 01:47:27,760 --> 01:47:30,240 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray goes number one to Arizona, so the draft 2178 01:47:30,280 --> 01:47:32,599 Speaker 1: starts after that. But people are kind of backing off 2179 01:47:32,640 --> 01:47:35,599 Speaker 1: that Steven fact. Daniel Jeremiah moving the sticks or move 2180 01:47:35,680 --> 01:47:38,439 Speaker 1: the Sticks on Twitter at a really interesting tweet. He 2181 01:47:38,600 --> 01:47:40,680 Speaker 1: is an NFL Network draft expert. We had him on 2182 01:47:40,720 --> 01:47:43,200 Speaker 1: the show down there and at the combine and he 2183 01:47:43,560 --> 01:47:47,599 Speaker 1: wrote this today. April first confidence meter, Kyler Murray will 2184 01:47:47,600 --> 01:47:51,080 Speaker 1: be the first overall pick ninety percent confidence. Two weeks later, 2185 01:47:51,200 --> 01:47:54,360 Speaker 1: April fifteenth, confidence meter, Kyler Murray will be the first 2186 01:47:54,400 --> 01:47:58,160 Speaker 1: overall pick. Now he's just sixty percent confident. People are 2187 01:47:58,200 --> 01:48:00,960 Speaker 1: thinking of other options other than Kyler Murder Arizona, which 2188 01:48:01,000 --> 01:48:04,120 Speaker 1: I find very exciting. I do too. I'm a I'm 2189 01:48:04,160 --> 01:48:06,240 Speaker 1: a coin flip right now as to whether he goes 2190 01:48:06,280 --> 01:48:09,120 Speaker 1: first or not, because of all the reasons that Dan 2191 01:48:09,200 --> 01:48:16,000 Speaker 1: Shanka just articulated. He's five ten, one hundred and ninety pounds, 2192 01:48:16,000 --> 01:48:20,799 Speaker 1: one hundred and ninety five pounds. He is a system 2193 01:48:21,040 --> 01:48:26,280 Speaker 1: quarterback through and through. There's just even Cliff Kingsbury will 2194 01:48:26,320 --> 01:48:28,520 Speaker 1: tell you, I mean, that's the reason he was associated 2195 01:48:28,560 --> 01:48:31,760 Speaker 1: with Kyler Murray months ago, is because he runs a 2196 01:48:31,840 --> 01:48:37,439 Speaker 1: system that Kyler Murray's very good in. Kyler Murray is 2197 01:48:37,479 --> 01:48:40,000 Speaker 1: a you know, his production even the Heisman Trophy that 2198 01:48:40,080 --> 01:48:42,760 Speaker 1: they had a system with some players in place in 2199 01:48:42,880 --> 01:48:47,840 Speaker 1: the NFL. The system doesn't win. The players win. The 2200 01:48:48,000 --> 01:48:50,880 Speaker 1: coaches who put their players in a spot to do 2201 01:48:51,080 --> 01:48:54,040 Speaker 1: what they are gifted to do all the time, or 2202 01:48:54,160 --> 01:48:57,080 Speaker 1: more often than not, are the coaches who win. It's 2203 01:48:57,120 --> 01:49:01,280 Speaker 1: not about you run. Chip Kelly with the Philadelphia Eagles 2204 01:49:01,840 --> 01:49:04,080 Speaker 1: found that out very quickly. He was going to run 2205 01:49:04,160 --> 01:49:06,439 Speaker 1: his system. He said it was culture and all that 2206 01:49:06,640 --> 01:49:09,639 Speaker 1: was and his system were more important than the talent. 2207 01:49:09,880 --> 01:49:12,840 Speaker 1: That's why he's trading great players like Leshaun mccoyan and 2208 01:49:13,240 --> 01:49:16,040 Speaker 1: doing some of the stuff that he did. It's not 2209 01:49:16,680 --> 01:49:19,600 Speaker 1: it's getting the best players on the field, putting a 2210 01:49:19,760 --> 01:49:22,680 Speaker 1: system around them that allows them to do what they 2211 01:49:22,800 --> 01:49:27,160 Speaker 1: do best. It's not going to change. It's just the 2212 01:49:27,320 --> 01:49:29,639 Speaker 1: reality of what happens when you get this many guys 2213 01:49:29,640 --> 01:49:31,519 Speaker 1: on a team playing a sport of this nature that 2214 01:49:31,680 --> 01:49:35,320 Speaker 1: is this complicated. You can't win with a system with 2215 01:49:35,520 --> 01:49:37,519 Speaker 1: one guy who's built to run it. You have to have, 2216 01:49:38,240 --> 01:49:40,240 Speaker 1: you know, everybody in the office. You got have twenty 2217 01:49:40,280 --> 01:49:42,240 Speaker 1: six guys who are running it and built for it 2218 01:49:42,360 --> 01:49:45,280 Speaker 1: and in it. And you got to have a backup 2219 01:49:45,400 --> 01:49:48,679 Speaker 1: quarterback that can run it. And you've got to hope 2220 01:49:48,720 --> 01:49:51,280 Speaker 1: that there's no defense that can defend it no matter 2221 01:49:51,360 --> 01:49:55,519 Speaker 1: what they do unless you can. Because listen, if a 2222 01:49:55,600 --> 01:49:58,080 Speaker 1: system was gonna win, people would be everybody would be 2223 01:49:58,160 --> 01:50:01,920 Speaker 1: running that system. They're problems with every system. You've got 2224 01:50:02,000 --> 01:50:04,800 Speaker 1: to be able to go three wide, two wide, pack 2225 01:50:04,880 --> 01:50:07,840 Speaker 1: it in with, go heavy, go wide, go unbalanced. Run 2226 01:50:07,920 --> 01:50:10,719 Speaker 1: the ball, throw the ball, short pass, long pass, intermediate pass, 2227 01:50:10,760 --> 01:50:14,560 Speaker 1: outside the number, screen passes, bubble screen passes. All of 2228 01:50:14,600 --> 01:50:16,439 Speaker 1: that stuff has got to be in your arsenal. If 2229 01:50:16,439 --> 01:50:18,680 Speaker 1: you're running a system, some of the stuff's not in there, 2230 01:50:19,800 --> 01:50:23,080 Speaker 1: you're gonna be limited. And if you're limited, you're predictable, 2231 01:50:23,640 --> 01:50:25,720 Speaker 1: and it's not gonna work. That's why a guy like 2232 01:50:25,880 --> 01:50:28,719 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray and guys like that who can't do everything 2233 01:50:28,840 --> 01:50:32,760 Speaker 1: or enough things are gonna be suspect until they prove 2234 01:50:32,840 --> 01:50:34,760 Speaker 1: him otherwise. Now I'm not saying Cayla Murray won't be 2235 01:50:34,840 --> 01:50:37,920 Speaker 1: that guy, but it hain't been done before. And the 2236 01:50:38,240 --> 01:50:42,800 Speaker 1: reason that's resonated with me, Daniel Jeremiah's a tweet about 2237 01:50:42,840 --> 01:50:45,760 Speaker 1: how things have changed in two weeks. Look, maybe things 2238 01:50:45,840 --> 01:50:48,720 Speaker 1: haven't changed, but we don't know, right, but two weeks later, 2239 01:50:49,040 --> 01:50:52,160 Speaker 1: everybody who was spot I'm certain that Caler Murray would 2240 01:50:52,160 --> 01:50:54,840 Speaker 1: go number one overall to Arizona. Some of the same people, 2241 01:50:54,840 --> 01:50:56,920 Speaker 1: and I are like, well, I don't know. It happens 2242 01:50:56,960 --> 01:50:58,800 Speaker 1: every year, right, and it may happen in the next 2243 01:50:58,880 --> 01:51:01,840 Speaker 1: ten days before the draft. It may happen. People get 2244 01:51:01,960 --> 01:51:04,880 Speaker 1: different ideas in their head, they watch more video, there's 2245 01:51:04,960 --> 01:51:07,360 Speaker 1: nothing else going on, so that could happen again over 2246 01:51:07,400 --> 01:51:09,280 Speaker 1: the next ten days. The other thing that he mentioned, 2247 01:51:09,520 --> 01:51:11,960 Speaker 1: he's got the Bills at nine going with Christian Wilkins, 2248 01:51:12,040 --> 01:51:15,840 Speaker 1: the three pound defensive tackle from Clemson who certainly would 2249 01:51:15,840 --> 01:51:17,800 Speaker 1: feel a need for the Bills. What he said about 2250 01:51:17,880 --> 01:51:20,400 Speaker 1: Christian Wilkins, though, I think what got me thinking, like, 2251 01:51:20,520 --> 01:51:23,160 Speaker 1: maybe he is the Bills guy I'm reading now in 2252 01:51:23,360 --> 01:51:27,400 Speaker 1: our lad's description of Christian Wilkins, he is a winning 2253 01:51:27,439 --> 01:51:29,640 Speaker 1: football player that makes others better and will be a 2254 01:51:29,720 --> 01:51:34,240 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator's favorite, most versatile toy. There's that the versatility 2255 01:51:34,280 --> 01:51:37,759 Speaker 1: which the Bills. This Bill's coaching staff has always seemed 2256 01:51:37,760 --> 01:51:41,760 Speaker 1: to put a premium on position flexibility. They may have that, 2257 01:51:41,920 --> 01:51:44,759 Speaker 1: as Dan Chaka said, this guy can play some defensive 2258 01:51:44,880 --> 01:51:47,400 Speaker 1: end too. And there's also what Chaka said about his 2259 01:51:47,479 --> 01:51:50,040 Speaker 1: attitude and his you know, his approach to the game, 2260 01:51:50,080 --> 01:51:53,120 Speaker 1: which sounds like it's Taylor made for what McDermot and 2261 01:51:53,200 --> 01:51:55,120 Speaker 1: this group is trying to build here in Buffalo. Didn't it, 2262 01:51:55,160 --> 01:51:58,120 Speaker 1: didn't he? Or that sounded like he was absolutely the 2263 01:51:58,240 --> 01:52:00,560 Speaker 1: kind of guy that they want on that roster, the 2264 01:52:00,680 --> 01:52:02,960 Speaker 1: kind of you know, the Termaine Edmunds and Josh Allen's 2265 01:52:03,000 --> 01:52:06,360 Speaker 1: and Micah Hide, Jordan Poyers, you know, Kyle Williams kind 2266 01:52:06,360 --> 01:52:08,960 Speaker 1: of guys. Or Rinze Alexander looks sounded like he fit 2267 01:52:09,200 --> 01:52:13,840 Speaker 1: right into that. H did Christian Wilkins, and he's end 2268 01:52:13,880 --> 01:52:16,640 Speaker 1: Let's face it it, he plays that right position. He 2269 01:52:16,680 --> 01:52:20,920 Speaker 1: plays the right spot. You know. Brian Billick, the Super 2270 01:52:20,960 --> 01:52:23,479 Speaker 1: Bowl winning head coach of the Ravens when they wanted 2271 01:52:23,520 --> 01:52:27,200 Speaker 1: in the year two thousand, said this, when you're going 2272 01:52:27,240 --> 01:52:31,280 Speaker 1: into the draft, need is a terrible talent evaluator. When 2273 01:52:31,320 --> 01:52:35,879 Speaker 1: you really need a guy, you tend to overinflate his ability. 2274 01:52:37,880 --> 01:52:39,519 Speaker 1: And that's you know, you don't want to get caught 2275 01:52:39,600 --> 01:52:42,920 Speaker 1: like that if you're the Buffalo Bills. That's why you've 2276 01:52:42,920 --> 01:52:45,960 Speaker 1: got to look at all these guys, Christian Wilkins and 2277 01:52:46,080 --> 01:52:49,040 Speaker 1: all the others that play that spot and then cross 2278 01:52:49,160 --> 01:52:51,600 Speaker 1: reference them to a different position and how good this 2279 01:52:51,720 --> 01:52:56,920 Speaker 1: guy is. So it really is a lesson in discipline 2280 01:52:57,280 --> 01:52:59,880 Speaker 1: and patience as to what guys are there when you pick, 2281 01:53:00,439 --> 01:53:03,439 Speaker 1: and which guy really is the best football player. We're 2282 01:53:03,479 --> 01:53:06,559 Speaker 1: down there about ten days exactly, uh, ten days until 2283 01:53:06,600 --> 01:53:08,160 Speaker 1: around one of the draft. You got all kinds of 2284 01:53:08,240 --> 01:53:10,160 Speaker 1: coverage coming up when that happens a week and a 2285 01:53:10,200 --> 01:53:13,040 Speaker 1: half away, and more pre draft coverage coming up this week. 2286 01:53:13,120 --> 01:53:14,519 Speaker 1: Mel Kiper is going to be part of the show 2287 01:53:14,560 --> 01:53:18,200 Speaker 1: on Friday. We'll have great co slum, probably more draft guests. 2288 01:53:18,320 --> 01:53:21,639 Speaker 1: You're looking forward to talking to mel Kiper. Get doing 2289 01:53:21,680 --> 01:53:25,080 Speaker 1: evaluations when you were coming out in eighty five. I 2290 01:53:25,240 --> 01:53:27,479 Speaker 1: doubt it. I doubt he was probably just a you know, 2291 01:53:27,600 --> 01:53:31,920 Speaker 1: a kid who liked doing that stuff. Yeah in his basement. Yeah, yeah, 2292 01:53:31,960 --> 01:53:36,839 Speaker 1: exactly kind of still is he He made the industry. 2293 01:53:37,479 --> 01:53:39,880 Speaker 1: He made the industry. And you know what I gotta 2294 01:53:39,920 --> 01:53:42,639 Speaker 1: tell you too, he didn't. It's a lot of legwork, 2295 01:53:43,160 --> 01:53:45,280 Speaker 1: it's a lot of travel, it's a lot of phone calls, 2296 01:53:45,320 --> 01:53:47,840 Speaker 1: there's a lot of conversations. It's work that needs to 2297 01:53:47,880 --> 01:53:49,320 Speaker 1: be done. But he was the first one who really 2298 01:53:49,360 --> 01:53:51,000 Speaker 1: wanted to do it and took it along far enough 2299 01:53:51,080 --> 01:53:53,000 Speaker 1: to and I don't know. I don't go back and 2300 01:53:53,080 --> 01:53:56,640 Speaker 1: look at this. I assume probably wrongfully, but he was 2301 01:53:56,760 --> 01:53:59,400 Speaker 1: right a lot of the time. Sometimes you know, when 2302 01:53:59,439 --> 01:54:01,640 Speaker 1: he's wrong, it is more fun, right, which wrong when 2303 01:54:01,640 --> 01:54:03,920 Speaker 1: he's more fun. But then also and I remember the 2304 01:54:04,240 --> 01:54:06,360 Speaker 1: one time when he first started doing it, and maybe 2305 01:54:06,400 --> 01:54:08,679 Speaker 1: the second year he was doing it was the year 2306 01:54:10,160 --> 01:54:13,960 Speaker 1: that I believe as Mike Mamula got drafted or no, 2307 01:54:14,360 --> 01:54:17,320 Speaker 1: it wasn't. It was Jeff Logeman by the Jets. The 2308 01:54:17,479 --> 01:54:21,559 Speaker 1: Jets took Jeff Logerman in the first round, and mel 2309 01:54:21,720 --> 01:54:26,120 Speaker 1: Kiper roasted him, absolutely roasted him for taking him and 2310 01:54:26,479 --> 01:54:28,599 Speaker 1: so and so. In fact, he roast him so bad 2311 01:54:28,680 --> 01:54:33,120 Speaker 1: the Jet coaching staff was calling ESPN griping about him, 2312 01:54:33,160 --> 01:54:35,440 Speaker 1: talking about him on the air. So it was it 2313 01:54:35,640 --> 01:54:38,040 Speaker 1: was he burst onto the scenes by taking a stand 2314 01:54:38,120 --> 01:54:40,560 Speaker 1: on guys and was right enough of the time that 2315 01:54:40,880 --> 01:54:43,960 Speaker 1: he's got a reputation for being the expert. More draft 2316 01:54:44,240 --> 01:54:46,160 Speaker 1: analysis coming up over the next week and a half. 2317 01:54:46,200 --> 01:54:48,080 Speaker 1: We can talk about that. We can. We're gonna take 2318 01:54:48,080 --> 01:54:49,440 Speaker 1: a break here and go back to our kind of 2319 01:54:49,480 --> 01:54:52,360 Speaker 1: our topic of the day. In deference to what Tiger 2320 01:54:52,440 --> 01:54:54,360 Speaker 1: Woods did yesterday, Why don't open you what's the best 2321 01:54:54,480 --> 01:54:57,200 Speaker 1: redemption story in the NFL? The best one you can 2322 01:54:57,240 --> 01:54:58,960 Speaker 1: think of. We've had a lot of good responses to 2323 01:54:59,040 --> 01:55:01,440 Speaker 1: this one, right, a lot of people with different ideas, 2324 01:55:01,640 --> 01:55:05,520 Speaker 1: including the New Orleans Saints and Adrian Peterson. It was 2325 01:55:05,600 --> 01:55:08,680 Speaker 1: Chris Brown's story. What's the best player redemption story you've 2326 01:55:08,760 --> 01:55:10,920 Speaker 1: got in the NFL? And you know, kind of keeping 2327 01:55:10,960 --> 01:55:13,200 Speaker 1: in mind what Tiger did yesterday. Also, we'll hear from 2328 01:55:13,200 --> 01:55:15,440 Speaker 1: Sean McDermott. He met with the media briefly today. We'll 2329 01:55:15,440 --> 01:55:18,560 Speaker 1: hear some of that plus NFL true and false. See, 2330 01:55:18,600 --> 01:55:20,040 Speaker 1: how are you gonna do all this? In the remaining 2331 01:55:20,200 --> 01:55:21,720 Speaker 1: a few minutes of the show, and I we'll start 2332 01:55:21,760 --> 01:55:24,160 Speaker 1: cutting things, have to cut some stuff, throw some stuff out. Edit, 2333 01:55:24,200 --> 01:55:25,920 Speaker 1: We're gonna editor, so I'll just leave leave you more 2334 01:55:26,000 --> 01:55:28,240 Speaker 1: room and then I can take it all. Right, what 2335 01:55:28,320 --> 01:55:31,560 Speaker 1: about we're gonna break. We're back One goes live from 2336 01:55:31,600 --> 01:55:46,400 Speaker 1: One Deals Drive on Buffalo Bill's Radio. Welcome back One 2337 01:55:46,440 --> 01:55:49,320 Speaker 1: Bills Live. Holy cow, Steve, it's two thirty in the afternoon. Already, 2338 01:55:49,400 --> 01:55:52,720 Speaker 1: where did the day go? Steve? Not over yet? But 2339 01:55:52,880 --> 01:55:55,200 Speaker 1: shot and the breeze with you, Murph is like no 2340 01:55:55,360 --> 01:55:57,360 Speaker 1: time at all past it's been a great show. It's 2341 01:55:57,360 --> 01:56:01,280 Speaker 1: been a fun shows. A draft it's getting it's getting 2342 01:56:01,280 --> 01:56:04,120 Speaker 1: to where we're having some content here, you know, with 2343 01:56:04,280 --> 01:56:06,520 Speaker 1: the draft coming up. We got all these people in it, 2344 01:56:07,680 --> 01:56:09,400 Speaker 1: and we were just talking about mel Kiper, who's coming 2345 01:56:09,440 --> 01:56:12,560 Speaker 1: on the show later in the week. All these guys 2346 01:56:12,600 --> 01:56:15,200 Speaker 1: are chiming in with who they think is going to happen, 2347 01:56:15,280 --> 01:56:18,680 Speaker 1: and Dan Shonka was great. He goes, listen, there's two 2348 01:56:18,760 --> 01:56:20,680 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty guys none of us know. Yeah, good, 2349 01:56:20,680 --> 01:56:22,400 Speaker 1: and they're all gonna get drafted mission, you know, and 2350 01:56:22,480 --> 01:56:23,880 Speaker 1: he goes, none of us know where these guys are 2351 01:56:23,880 --> 01:56:26,320 Speaker 1: gonna go. Because one draft, if the Cardinals trade out 2352 01:56:26,320 --> 01:56:30,880 Speaker 1: of the number one pick, every mock draft is junk. Yeah, 2353 01:56:30,960 --> 01:56:34,080 Speaker 1: they're all as far as predictors. Yeah, but still fun. 2354 01:56:34,240 --> 01:56:35,880 Speaker 1: And the draft is gonna be fun. I look forward 2355 01:56:35,880 --> 01:56:38,120 Speaker 1: to it. Dan Shanka from Our Lives, we thank him, 2356 01:56:38,240 --> 01:56:40,840 Speaker 1: is Steve said, mel Kiper's coming on the show Friday, 2357 01:56:41,320 --> 01:56:43,640 Speaker 1: um later this week. I believe Daniel Jeremiah, who we 2358 01:56:43,720 --> 01:56:46,040 Speaker 1: just references, coming on as well, and his tweet I 2359 01:56:46,360 --> 01:56:50,120 Speaker 1: interpret his level of certainty that Connor Murray goes number 2360 01:56:50,160 --> 01:56:53,280 Speaker 1: one ninety two weeks ago sixty percent. Now that's I 2361 01:56:53,440 --> 01:56:55,840 Speaker 1: don't believe that's I don't want to get locked into 2362 01:56:55,880 --> 01:56:57,720 Speaker 1: this two. But I don't think he's saying anything about 2363 01:56:57,960 --> 01:57:00,280 Speaker 1: where the Arizona Cardinals are at. I think he's saying 2364 01:57:00,320 --> 01:57:03,240 Speaker 1: everything about where people's thoughts are right now, you know, 2365 01:57:03,840 --> 01:57:06,200 Speaker 1: because we get close and people get anty and nervous, 2366 01:57:06,240 --> 01:57:08,280 Speaker 1: and we're week and half away, and people aren't sure 2367 01:57:08,360 --> 01:57:11,640 Speaker 1: now about the thing they thought was a lock, immortal 2368 01:57:11,720 --> 01:57:14,640 Speaker 1: lock eight weeks ago. If no team in the NFL 2369 01:57:14,720 --> 01:57:18,920 Speaker 1: had any need that was glaring, that's what most of 2370 01:57:18,960 --> 01:57:21,040 Speaker 1: these mock drafts trying like pull out of what the 2371 01:57:21,080 --> 01:57:22,920 Speaker 1: best player at the best position will where these teams 2372 01:57:22,960 --> 01:57:24,960 Speaker 1: and now. But here's the thing. Every team has a 2373 01:57:25,000 --> 01:57:27,000 Speaker 1: little bit of a thing that not everybody's aware of. 2374 01:57:27,280 --> 01:57:29,920 Speaker 1: Like Brandon Bean is saying now that they don't really 2375 01:57:29,960 --> 01:57:31,520 Speaker 1: have a glaring need. They wanted to get to where 2376 01:57:31,520 --> 01:57:34,600 Speaker 1: they didn't have a positional emergency for this draft, and 2377 01:57:34,640 --> 01:57:36,880 Speaker 1: he says they're pretty close to that right now. So 2378 01:57:37,240 --> 01:57:39,680 Speaker 1: if that's the case for every team, well then you 2379 01:57:39,760 --> 01:57:41,680 Speaker 1: should be able to look at that draft board and say, 2380 01:57:41,680 --> 01:57:43,520 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter where this guy plays. These are the 2381 01:57:43,560 --> 01:57:46,840 Speaker 1: guys that should go. And this is the order that 2382 01:57:47,120 --> 01:57:51,680 Speaker 1: is a pipe dream, because every team is going to 2383 01:57:51,760 --> 01:57:53,840 Speaker 1: reach for a guy at a position they really don't 2384 01:57:53,880 --> 01:57:55,480 Speaker 1: feel that good about. And the problem is none of 2385 01:57:55,560 --> 01:57:57,040 Speaker 1: us know where they don't feel good because they're not 2386 01:57:57,040 --> 01:57:59,400 Speaker 1: admitting it. I'm just gonna say, everybody's playing poker. Y're 2387 01:57:59,400 --> 01:58:02,720 Speaker 1: not showing everybody all thirty two teams are playing poker 2388 01:58:02,840 --> 01:58:06,480 Speaker 1: right now. There's like a bazillion moving parts to this thing, 2389 01:58:07,280 --> 01:58:11,440 Speaker 1: and we don't And the first part stops moving after 2390 01:58:11,520 --> 01:58:14,040 Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals picked their guy. That's one moving part 2391 01:58:14,120 --> 01:58:17,080 Speaker 1: that stops. You know, then there's still a basilion left. 2392 01:58:17,440 --> 01:58:19,320 Speaker 1: So I mean it just goes and goes and goes, 2393 01:58:19,360 --> 01:58:21,800 Speaker 1: and it's it's fun for you and me because it 2394 01:58:23,080 --> 01:58:24,800 Speaker 1: kind of enlightens you as to what other teams have 2395 01:58:24,880 --> 01:58:26,960 Speaker 1: been doing in the offseason because you get a feel like, well, 2396 01:58:26,960 --> 01:58:29,280 Speaker 1: they're starting to think about this guy because you know 2397 01:58:29,600 --> 01:58:31,440 Speaker 1: they're they've got a position of need or this. They 2398 01:58:31,560 --> 01:58:34,920 Speaker 1: stunk at this last year. Same thing everybody says about 2399 01:58:34,920 --> 01:58:36,880 Speaker 1: the Bills where they were last year. They still are 2400 01:58:36,960 --> 01:58:39,120 Speaker 1: making assumptions about what the Bills will do based on 2401 01:58:39,440 --> 01:58:41,760 Speaker 1: their weakness or strength of their season last year, rather 2402 01:58:41,800 --> 01:58:44,520 Speaker 1: than where they are in free agency and what the 2403 01:58:44,640 --> 01:58:47,400 Speaker 1: reasons are for some of those problems they had last 2404 01:58:47,440 --> 01:58:49,400 Speaker 1: year where there was injury and a guy's coming back, 2405 01:58:50,040 --> 01:58:51,320 Speaker 1: or whether it's just the fact that they didn't have 2406 01:58:51,320 --> 01:58:54,680 Speaker 1: anybody to play there, you know, or you know. Yeah, 2407 01:58:54,760 --> 01:58:58,400 Speaker 1: there's a million moving parts, ye heyu among the other things. 2408 01:58:58,440 --> 01:59:02,959 Speaker 1: Also this week, we believe, and this is UH sources 2409 01:59:03,320 --> 01:59:05,480 Speaker 1: telling us that the schedules coming out Wednesday night. So 2410 01:59:05,600 --> 01:59:07,680 Speaker 1: that'll be you're talking about what a good content week 2411 01:59:07,720 --> 01:59:13,160 Speaker 1: we're moving into here. Yes, totally totally unconfirmed rumors, reports, 2412 01:59:13,200 --> 01:59:16,080 Speaker 1: and innuendos Wednesday night, the Wednesday night. I have no 2413 01:59:16,160 --> 01:59:20,680 Speaker 1: idea what time. No, it'll be it'll be after three. Call. Yeah, 2414 01:59:21,400 --> 01:59:25,440 Speaker 1: that's time. Those guys in Buffalo off the air. Okay, 2415 01:59:25,520 --> 01:59:27,480 Speaker 1: we'll do it. Three. Everything's happening at three oh five 2416 01:59:27,920 --> 01:59:30,520 Speaker 1: Fresh Shop. Tiger Woods come back to win the Masters yesterday. 2417 01:59:30,600 --> 01:59:33,040 Speaker 1: Our question of the day deals with Tiger and his 2418 01:59:33,200 --> 01:59:36,720 Speaker 1: redemption story. Yesterday has come back. What's the best redemption 2419 01:59:36,800 --> 01:59:38,920 Speaker 1: story in the NFL all time? Give us a call. 2420 01:59:39,000 --> 01:59:42,320 Speaker 1: Eight oh three five fifty toll free from outside Buffalo 2421 01:59:42,440 --> 01:59:45,600 Speaker 1: one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty A 2422 01:59:45,640 --> 01:59:48,400 Speaker 1: couple of suggestions, Rex in Tonawanda. Are you there now, Rex, 2423 01:59:48,480 --> 01:59:51,160 Speaker 1: are you with us? I am here now, Sorry about 2424 01:59:51,200 --> 01:59:54,320 Speaker 1: the problem, Rex, go ahead, but thanks thanks for taking 2425 01:59:54,400 --> 01:59:56,440 Speaker 1: my call again. Yeah, I wanted to throw the name 2426 01:59:56,520 --> 02:00:00,040 Speaker 1: Michael Vick into the ring. I think his story it 2427 02:00:00,080 --> 02:00:03,120 Speaker 1: was a great one. Everybody after his scandal, you know, 2428 02:00:03,280 --> 02:00:05,320 Speaker 1: they uh, they didn't want to go near him. They 2429 02:00:05,360 --> 02:00:07,360 Speaker 1: put him in the doghouse, and he came back and 2430 02:00:07,560 --> 02:00:11,240 Speaker 1: he just uh, it was just remarkable, just how he 2431 02:00:11,360 --> 02:00:13,280 Speaker 1: came back as a player and as a person now 2432 02:00:13,440 --> 02:00:17,760 Speaker 1: doing the reporting. Um, yeah, he really Uh that was 2433 02:00:17,800 --> 02:00:20,720 Speaker 1: an inspiration. An honorable mentioned to Raymond Lewis for his 2434 02:00:20,800 --> 02:00:23,480 Speaker 1: scandal as well. Yeah, good ones. I think both of 2435 02:00:23,520 --> 02:00:26,240 Speaker 1: those we've obviously we've we've heard those names throughout the show. 2436 02:00:26,280 --> 02:00:29,800 Speaker 1: And you're right, it's a Michael Vick going to prison 2437 02:00:30,400 --> 02:00:33,000 Speaker 1: and then coming out and uh and doing the things 2438 02:00:33,040 --> 02:00:35,280 Speaker 1: he did on the football field and becoming a different guy, 2439 02:00:35,400 --> 02:00:39,080 Speaker 1: even a different persona and putting a um and obviously 2440 02:00:39,600 --> 02:00:43,120 Speaker 1: being changed by the whole experience for the better. You're right, 2441 02:00:43,200 --> 02:00:45,320 Speaker 1: it is a great story, and um, it's it's good 2442 02:00:45,360 --> 02:00:47,000 Speaker 1: to see something good come out of what was a 2443 02:00:47,120 --> 02:00:51,960 Speaker 1: really really, really bad situation. In Michael Vick's case, I 2444 02:00:52,080 --> 02:00:56,160 Speaker 1: think in ray Lewis's case and in Tiger woods case, 2445 02:00:56,320 --> 02:01:01,480 Speaker 1: these guys were huge national flashpoint points for anger Steve. 2446 02:01:01,520 --> 02:01:04,640 Speaker 1: People were livid about Michael Vick and that that did 2447 02:01:04,800 --> 02:01:09,040 Speaker 1: require a football redemption. He had to serve his criminal 2448 02:01:09,200 --> 02:01:12,160 Speaker 1: jail time. He had to serve his NFL suspension um 2449 02:01:12,920 --> 02:01:16,880 Speaker 1: in Tiger's case, no criminal charges. But I mean his 2450 02:01:17,040 --> 02:01:18,760 Speaker 1: personal life was a train wreck. Yeah. He was the 2451 02:01:18,880 --> 02:01:21,200 Speaker 1: lead story everywhere for a week or two, right, and 2452 02:01:21,400 --> 02:01:23,720 Speaker 1: he had more stuff kept coming up. Exactly it was. 2453 02:01:23,840 --> 02:01:25,400 Speaker 1: It was, it got worse and worse and worse for 2454 02:01:25,440 --> 02:01:28,960 Speaker 1: over a period of time, and and it you know, 2455 02:01:29,000 --> 02:01:32,080 Speaker 1: it cost him dearly personally. Yeah, and you know it 2456 02:01:32,200 --> 02:01:34,920 Speaker 1: was self inflicted. I mean, nobody's denying that, but get 2457 02:01:35,080 --> 02:01:39,760 Speaker 1: he paid a significant price for those transgressions, and in 2458 02:01:39,840 --> 02:01:42,280 Speaker 1: some people's eyes, he still does. Uh. Some people will 2459 02:01:42,320 --> 02:01:44,920 Speaker 1: never you know, get around that. Uh. And then a 2460 02:01:45,080 --> 02:01:49,080 Speaker 1: couple that with the you know, the professional injuries that 2461 02:01:49,120 --> 02:01:51,200 Speaker 1: he had his career as golf career and how that went. 2462 02:01:51,400 --> 02:01:53,440 Speaker 1: There were four things that happened to Tiger and one 2463 02:01:53,440 --> 02:01:54,720 Speaker 1: of the fourth thing, and I was going to get 2464 02:01:54,720 --> 02:01:56,640 Speaker 1: to this later in the show. There are four things 2465 02:01:57,040 --> 02:02:02,480 Speaker 1: that make this redemption comeback story for Tiger amazing. One, 2466 02:02:02,560 --> 02:02:05,240 Speaker 1: of course, is his personal life that we just spoke about, 2467 02:02:05,480 --> 02:02:08,360 Speaker 1: the breakup of his marriage, losing his family, and the 2468 02:02:08,600 --> 02:02:12,280 Speaker 1: years of turmoil it took to get that under back 2469 02:02:12,360 --> 02:02:15,320 Speaker 1: under control in his own life. The second thing is 2470 02:02:15,480 --> 02:02:17,840 Speaker 1: the injuries. His back injury. Had multiple back injuries. He 2471 02:02:17,840 --> 02:02:19,800 Speaker 1: couldn't even get out of a chair, he couldn't walk. 2472 02:02:19,960 --> 02:02:21,680 Speaker 1: There were times when he didn't know if you'd ever 2473 02:02:22,160 --> 02:02:24,040 Speaker 1: swing a golf club again in his whole life, and 2474 02:02:24,080 --> 02:02:26,800 Speaker 1: those were real, Those were real concerns. The third is 2475 02:02:27,280 --> 02:02:29,560 Speaker 1: he now has to come back twenty as a forty 2476 02:02:29,640 --> 02:02:31,480 Speaker 1: year old, and this is exclusive to golf, as the 2477 02:02:31,520 --> 02:02:35,280 Speaker 1: other sports, twenty years after he began this. He's playing 2478 02:02:35,360 --> 02:02:39,560 Speaker 1: against competitors who were inspired to pick up a golf 2479 02:02:39,640 --> 02:02:43,200 Speaker 1: club by him. He's playing against the own legacy, of 2480 02:02:43,280 --> 02:02:45,920 Speaker 1: his own dominance of the sport. These guys took up 2481 02:02:45,960 --> 02:02:47,560 Speaker 1: this game, a lot of them, not all of them, 2482 02:02:47,720 --> 02:02:49,680 Speaker 1: but a ton of them took up the game because 2483 02:02:49,720 --> 02:02:53,880 Speaker 1: of him, and they It is an unbelievable full circle 2484 02:02:54,120 --> 02:02:56,760 Speaker 1: that he has to compete at the highest level against 2485 02:02:56,840 --> 02:02:59,240 Speaker 1: guys who were inspired to take up the game because 2486 02:02:59,280 --> 02:03:01,800 Speaker 1: of him. And then the fourth thing is the guy's 2487 02:03:01,920 --> 02:03:06,320 Speaker 1: forty forty three years old. He is playing the game 2488 02:03:06,400 --> 02:03:09,280 Speaker 1: in a completely different way and winning a major tournament, 2489 02:03:09,400 --> 02:03:11,760 Speaker 1: the Masters, in a completely different way than he did 2490 02:03:11,960 --> 02:03:14,680 Speaker 1: when he was winning again his prime. He overpowered the field, 2491 02:03:14,680 --> 02:03:17,760 Speaker 1: he overpowered the golf course. He won by twelve shots 2492 02:03:17,880 --> 02:03:20,880 Speaker 1: that same tournament that he won yesterday. He was over 2493 02:03:21,000 --> 02:03:25,640 Speaker 1: he was just unbeatable. He was dominant. Now he's winning 2494 02:03:25,680 --> 02:03:32,200 Speaker 1: with gile, with consistency, and with intelligence at this point 2495 02:03:32,240 --> 02:03:33,839 Speaker 1: in his career. So he's doing it in a completely 2496 02:03:33,880 --> 02:03:35,560 Speaker 1: different way at this stage of his life. So for 2497 02:03:35,640 --> 02:03:37,760 Speaker 1: all four of those things, his personal life, the injury 2498 02:03:37,800 --> 02:03:40,360 Speaker 1: that he overcame, the legacy that is now competing against, 2499 02:03:40,800 --> 02:03:44,560 Speaker 1: and his age now as well, those four things are 2500 02:03:44,600 --> 02:03:47,240 Speaker 1: making this redemption story for Tiger really compelling. On your 2501 02:03:47,280 --> 02:03:49,840 Speaker 1: third point, that's really fascinating, And you could see it 2502 02:03:49,960 --> 02:03:52,680 Speaker 1: yesterday and watching last night, you know, when players being 2503 02:03:52,720 --> 02:03:56,080 Speaker 1: an interviewed post there after the round saying well, you know, 2504 02:03:56,160 --> 02:03:59,440 Speaker 1: I saw Tiger out there with the red mock turtleneck 2505 02:03:59,520 --> 02:04:01,120 Speaker 1: on a Sunday, and I knew what this said, right, 2506 02:04:01,160 --> 02:04:04,000 Speaker 1: they knew what was coming. Is there in any sense 2507 02:04:04,840 --> 02:04:08,680 Speaker 1: does can Tiger use that? You're as a former professional athlete, 2508 02:04:09,040 --> 02:04:11,360 Speaker 1: He's in their heads already, even at age forty three. 2509 02:04:11,440 --> 02:04:13,280 Speaker 1: You know, the younger guys are up against him, saying, oh, 2510 02:04:13,320 --> 02:04:15,720 Speaker 1: there's Tiger, it's Sunday. He's in his red mock turtleneck. 2511 02:04:16,040 --> 02:04:17,760 Speaker 1: I have no chance here. He can almost use that 2512 02:04:17,880 --> 02:04:20,240 Speaker 1: as an advantage. I get it. He's competing against his 2513 02:04:20,320 --> 02:04:23,680 Speaker 1: own legacy, his own historical legacy. But in some ways 2514 02:04:24,760 --> 02:04:27,160 Speaker 1: he's got their number right because they know what's coming 2515 02:04:27,240 --> 02:04:29,040 Speaker 1: on Sunday when he's wearing well, he's gonna say that 2516 02:04:29,120 --> 02:04:30,760 Speaker 1: now when he when he heard those guys say that 2517 02:04:30,880 --> 02:04:32,880 Speaker 1: yesterday and said, but let me just tell you that. 2518 02:04:33,120 --> 02:04:37,840 Speaker 1: Let me remind you it was a done deal in 2519 02:04:37,960 --> 02:04:40,640 Speaker 1: the year two thousand, nineteen ninety eight, nineteen ninety nine, 2520 02:04:40,680 --> 02:04:42,800 Speaker 1: two thousand and one, two thousand and two. It was 2521 02:04:43,040 --> 02:04:47,440 Speaker 1: over on Sunday when Tiger was there in the red shirt. 2522 02:04:47,840 --> 02:04:50,320 Speaker 1: They had no shot at catching him, and they knew it. 2523 02:04:50,680 --> 02:04:53,840 Speaker 1: It was he was dominant. There was These guys now 2524 02:04:53,960 --> 02:04:55,960 Speaker 1: have seen him play for ten years off and on 2525 02:04:56,440 --> 02:04:59,520 Speaker 1: for these last ten years. Sometimes sometimes he couldn't play 2526 02:04:59,760 --> 02:05:01,960 Speaker 1: or come back, and he'd have to withdraw, and he 2527 02:05:02,080 --> 02:05:05,120 Speaker 1: wasn't the same player. They've seen him creep back to 2528 02:05:05,240 --> 02:05:07,200 Speaker 1: this point where he can win a major now, but 2529 02:05:07,360 --> 02:05:10,120 Speaker 1: it hasn't been like this week after week thing of 2530 02:05:10,200 --> 02:05:12,360 Speaker 1: them getting their heads beat in by this guy with 2531 02:05:12,840 --> 02:05:15,640 Speaker 1: I mean, everybody's playing for second place. So I don't 2532 02:05:15,680 --> 02:05:17,800 Speaker 1: think it's the same as it was back in his 2533 02:05:17,880 --> 02:05:22,360 Speaker 1: heyday when he was overpowering the field. Certainly it's reminiscent 2534 02:05:22,480 --> 02:05:24,760 Speaker 1: of that when they look over them, and I even 2535 02:05:24,800 --> 02:05:26,320 Speaker 1: remember it, you know, it's like, wow, there he is. 2536 02:05:26,400 --> 02:05:28,280 Speaker 1: There's a red shirt, black pants on the red shirt. 2537 02:05:28,360 --> 02:05:30,920 Speaker 1: I get it. But it's not the same. So I 2538 02:05:31,000 --> 02:05:33,280 Speaker 1: don't think. No, I don't think it's the same as 2539 02:05:33,320 --> 02:05:36,720 Speaker 1: it was fifteen twenty years ago when he was head 2540 02:05:36,760 --> 02:05:38,760 Speaker 1: and shoulders above the field. Let us know what you think. 2541 02:05:38,840 --> 02:05:41,600 Speaker 1: Is there a comparable story in the NFL redemption to 2542 02:05:41,760 --> 02:05:43,960 Speaker 1: what happened when Tiger Wood yesterday. We'll take more calls 2543 02:05:43,960 --> 02:05:45,880 Speaker 1: on this if we get them. Maybe read a few 2544 02:05:45,880 --> 02:05:48,480 Speaker 1: more tweets tom now for NFL Toura Falls, Brought to 2545 02:05:48,520 --> 02:05:51,920 Speaker 1: you by Yancey's Fancy New York's artists and cheese toura falls. 2546 02:05:52,200 --> 02:05:54,920 Speaker 1: Adam Feeling got a new contract with the Minnesota Vikings. 2547 02:05:54,960 --> 02:05:59,640 Speaker 1: Sixty four million dollars is in a steel for Minnesota. Again, 2548 02:05:59,640 --> 02:06:02,960 Speaker 1: Adam Feeling for sixty four million dollars seems like a 2549 02:06:03,000 --> 02:06:06,280 Speaker 1: lot of money right kicks in in twenty twenty one, 2550 02:06:06,720 --> 02:06:08,480 Speaker 1: So it takes a while that think, Yeah, yeah, that's 2551 02:06:08,520 --> 02:06:09,800 Speaker 1: the part I think that makes it. Yeah, a bit 2552 02:06:09,800 --> 02:06:11,560 Speaker 1: of a steel. What do you think? I agree that. 2553 02:06:11,680 --> 02:06:12,960 Speaker 1: I looked at it and I said, what do you mean? 2554 02:06:13,040 --> 02:06:15,640 Speaker 1: I mean, the guy's is sixty four million over four years, 2555 02:06:16,240 --> 02:06:19,160 Speaker 1: you know whatever. Naga doesn't come about for two years 2556 02:06:19,320 --> 02:06:21,400 Speaker 1: down the road, and I don't know what the specifics 2557 02:06:21,440 --> 02:06:25,840 Speaker 1: of this contract are. That's crazy to me because Adam Feeling, 2558 02:06:26,080 --> 02:06:27,560 Speaker 1: I don't know if you'll ever see a dime of that, man. 2559 02:06:27,560 --> 02:06:29,080 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's any of its guaranteed or what. 2560 02:06:29,160 --> 02:06:30,640 Speaker 1: So I don't really know the details of it. But 2561 02:06:30,720 --> 02:06:33,440 Speaker 1: to push it down the road two years is a 2562 02:06:33,600 --> 02:06:36,880 Speaker 1: brilliant move by the Vikings because by that time, under 2563 02:06:36,960 --> 02:06:42,360 Speaker 1: current trends, the cap will be raised up more than 2564 02:06:42,400 --> 02:06:45,040 Speaker 1: this contract's worth year to year on a year to 2565 02:06:45,120 --> 02:06:47,920 Speaker 1: year basis, So it's like getting him for free in 2566 02:06:48,000 --> 02:06:50,400 Speaker 1: two years. Yeah, so I think it's a brilliant move 2567 02:06:50,480 --> 02:06:52,600 Speaker 1: by the Vikings. True, I said, true as well, I 2568 02:06:52,720 --> 02:06:55,160 Speaker 1: think pushing that down the line. And also another thing 2569 02:06:55,200 --> 02:06:57,600 Speaker 1: that you may as well get used to it a 2570 02:06:57,720 --> 02:06:59,400 Speaker 1: lot of these contracts. We're hearing it with the Russell 2571 02:06:59,440 --> 02:07:03,320 Speaker 1: Wilson stuff, and we heard with this feeling thing they're 2572 02:07:03,360 --> 02:07:05,560 Speaker 1: talking about. I don't care what the numbers exactly are 2573 02:07:05,560 --> 02:07:07,600 Speaker 1: on the contract, but this is the percentage of the 2574 02:07:07,800 --> 02:07:11,240 Speaker 1: cap that our guys gonna get. We want eight point 2575 02:07:11,320 --> 02:07:13,640 Speaker 1: two percent of the NFL sour cap, no matter what 2576 02:07:13,720 --> 02:07:15,960 Speaker 1: it is. We want to be guaranteed at least that. 2577 02:07:16,880 --> 02:07:19,680 Speaker 1: And so that's where these numbers are starting to head 2578 02:07:19,720 --> 02:07:22,160 Speaker 1: to in these contract negotiations. And Theeland's is a very 2579 02:07:22,200 --> 02:07:24,200 Speaker 1: low number is eight point I was just looking at 2580 02:07:24,440 --> 02:07:27,520 Speaker 1: eight point five percent of the cap for the Vikings. 2581 02:07:27,640 --> 02:07:30,200 Speaker 1: Is Adam feeling very productive and he will count for 2582 02:07:30,280 --> 02:07:34,000 Speaker 1: a lower percentage of his team's cap than Odell Beckham, 2583 02:07:34,040 --> 02:07:37,880 Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins, Brandon Cooks, t Y Hilton, Antonio Brown, DeVante Adams, 2584 02:07:37,960 --> 02:07:40,600 Speaker 1: Jarvis Landry. All those guys account for more of their 2585 02:07:40,640 --> 02:07:44,200 Speaker 1: team's cap than Adam feeling well for that reason. Yes, 2586 02:07:44,320 --> 02:07:46,480 Speaker 1: I do believe that it's a steel right, I'd say true. 2587 02:07:46,600 --> 02:07:48,480 Speaker 1: I think true as well. I think it's brilliant moving 2588 02:07:48,520 --> 02:07:50,400 Speaker 1: it down there. I think only because they moved it 2589 02:07:50,440 --> 02:07:53,920 Speaker 1: down the road two years. True or false, Giants face 2590 02:07:54,040 --> 02:07:57,720 Speaker 1: the most urgency in the twenty nineteen draft. I'm gonna 2591 02:07:57,760 --> 02:08:00,520 Speaker 1: go true on this also based and it's also because 2592 02:08:00,520 --> 02:08:02,920 Speaker 1: it went on last year, Steve Will. They passed on 2593 02:08:03,000 --> 02:08:05,040 Speaker 1: a quarterback at number two and chose the running back, 2594 02:08:05,400 --> 02:08:08,360 Speaker 1: and that need is still there. Eli Manning is still there. 2595 02:08:09,120 --> 02:08:11,560 Speaker 1: You know, Dave got them on, who I consider a 2596 02:08:11,640 --> 02:08:14,360 Speaker 1: good guy and a good general manager, has got questions 2597 02:08:14,400 --> 02:08:16,200 Speaker 1: to answer. And yeah, there's got to be urgency in 2598 02:08:16,280 --> 02:08:17,600 Speaker 1: what they do in a week and a half. Yes, 2599 02:08:17,840 --> 02:08:21,600 Speaker 1: I agree because of Peyton, because of Eli Manning, the 2600 02:08:21,720 --> 02:08:23,840 Speaker 1: time time's running out for him. They've got to either 2601 02:08:24,240 --> 02:08:25,880 Speaker 1: they've got one of two things to do, and I 2602 02:08:25,920 --> 02:08:27,600 Speaker 1: don't know what they're ready to do. If if they 2603 02:08:27,680 --> 02:08:30,000 Speaker 1: go full in and support Eli Manning and trying to 2604 02:08:30,040 --> 02:08:34,160 Speaker 1: get him all the weapons he needs. Certainly trading Odell 2605 02:08:34,240 --> 02:08:37,000 Speaker 1: Beckham Junior does not do that. If they're changing their 2606 02:08:37,040 --> 02:08:40,360 Speaker 1: philosophy and they're going to ride se Quon Barkley for 2607 02:08:40,400 --> 02:08:41,640 Speaker 1: as long as they can. I get that. But they 2608 02:08:41,720 --> 02:08:44,520 Speaker 1: better upgrade their offensive line in a way they haven't done. 2609 02:08:44,760 --> 02:08:46,920 Speaker 1: Their defense isn't as dominant as at once. What They've 2610 02:08:46,960 --> 02:08:48,960 Speaker 1: got a lot of issues they're facing and a lot 2611 02:08:49,000 --> 02:08:52,040 Speaker 1: of questions about what their philosophy and what their plans 2612 02:08:52,040 --> 02:08:53,920 Speaker 1: are going to be going forward, and they've got to 2613 02:08:54,120 --> 02:08:57,440 Speaker 1: get and it's like everybody, it's a tright to say it, 2614 02:08:57,520 --> 02:09:00,320 Speaker 1: but more so than any team. Hence this true false question. 2615 02:09:00,800 --> 02:09:04,640 Speaker 1: They gotta pick the right guys almost every single pick 2616 02:09:05,040 --> 02:09:07,440 Speaker 1: they got about a thousand. Nobody ever does. And I 2617 02:09:07,520 --> 02:09:09,080 Speaker 1: don't think the Giants will be able to either. But 2618 02:09:09,160 --> 02:09:11,480 Speaker 1: that's what they're up against. One more draft question when 2619 02:09:11,520 --> 02:09:13,680 Speaker 1: it comes to NFL too or falls today, the Dolphins 2620 02:09:14,040 --> 02:09:17,320 Speaker 1: familiar with them in their quarterback issues. NFL dot Com 2621 02:09:17,520 --> 02:09:19,360 Speaker 1: ran a story about which teams need to trade up 2622 02:09:19,400 --> 02:09:21,120 Speaker 1: and get a quarterback in this year's draft to get 2623 02:09:21,120 --> 02:09:24,839 Speaker 1: their quarterback of the future. One observer says the Dolphins 2624 02:09:24,920 --> 02:09:26,760 Speaker 1: must trade up to get a quarterback of the future 2625 02:09:27,200 --> 02:09:28,960 Speaker 1: in this draft. I'm gonna go first, or you want 2626 02:09:28,960 --> 02:09:32,440 Speaker 1: to go? Can I go go ahead? Okay, No, they 2627 02:09:32,600 --> 02:09:35,120 Speaker 1: don't have to. In fact, I don't think they should. 2628 02:09:35,280 --> 02:09:37,640 Speaker 1: I think I don't know if there's anybody in this 2629 02:09:37,800 --> 02:09:42,200 Speaker 1: draft who merits a big move up. Michael Robinson of 2630 02:09:42,320 --> 02:09:44,600 Speaker 1: NFL Network said the Dolphins should move up to get 2631 02:09:44,640 --> 02:09:47,440 Speaker 1: the quarterback. Says Chris Greer would be wise to trade 2632 02:09:47,520 --> 02:09:50,280 Speaker 1: up in nap Ohio states Dwayne Haskins, who has the 2633 02:09:50,360 --> 02:09:53,120 Speaker 1: best armed talent in this crass class. See another guy 2634 02:09:53,160 --> 02:09:55,839 Speaker 1: who puts Haskins now ahead of Kyler Murray. But regardless 2635 02:09:55,840 --> 02:09:59,320 Speaker 1: of that, I don't think either Murray nor Dwayne Haskins 2636 02:09:59,680 --> 02:10:02,160 Speaker 1: have the kind of quarterback talent that should make any team, 2637 02:10:02,320 --> 02:10:05,120 Speaker 1: including the Dolphins, make a big bull move up into 2638 02:10:05,120 --> 02:10:07,920 Speaker 1: the first round. Nope, I go false. I think false 2639 02:10:08,000 --> 02:10:09,760 Speaker 1: as well. Certainly they can if they want to. They 2640 02:10:09,760 --> 02:10:11,040 Speaker 1: could go out and see if they can trade for 2641 02:10:11,120 --> 02:10:12,880 Speaker 1: Josh Rose and see if they can get Dwayne Haskins 2642 02:10:12,960 --> 02:10:14,960 Speaker 1: in the draft trade up to where the Giants are 2643 02:10:15,040 --> 02:10:17,400 Speaker 1: to get him or anything else they could do that. 2644 02:10:17,520 --> 02:10:19,480 Speaker 1: I don't think it's critical that they do it now, 2645 02:10:19,600 --> 02:10:22,240 Speaker 1: because this is a roster that's not built to win anyway. 2646 02:10:22,560 --> 02:10:24,120 Speaker 1: It would give them a head start if they do 2647 02:10:24,240 --> 02:10:26,360 Speaker 1: get a rookie quarterback to give him a year behind, 2648 02:10:26,640 --> 02:10:28,520 Speaker 1: you know, to get his feet under him without too 2649 02:10:28,560 --> 02:10:31,160 Speaker 1: many expectations on win losses. I would say it's not 2650 02:10:31,320 --> 02:10:33,200 Speaker 1: critical for the Dolphins at this point. They got too 2651 02:10:33,240 --> 02:10:35,200 Speaker 1: many other needs that are glaring and they don't want 2652 02:10:35,200 --> 02:10:37,000 Speaker 1: to ruin a young quarterback even if they do get him, 2653 02:10:37,000 --> 02:10:40,280 Speaker 1: So it's not critical. But it's coming on the horizon absolutely. 2654 02:10:40,400 --> 02:10:42,760 Speaker 1: I just don't know if there's a quarterback in this 2655 02:10:42,920 --> 02:10:45,160 Speaker 1: draft that should frace them into that that's exactly right, 2656 02:10:45,240 --> 02:10:47,640 Speaker 1: or if they're not sure there is, they certainly shouldn't 2657 02:10:47,640 --> 02:10:49,680 Speaker 1: spend the capital it takes together, and it's gonna be 2658 02:10:49,720 --> 02:10:52,320 Speaker 1: interesting the new decision making group down there in Miami. 2659 02:10:52,440 --> 02:10:54,320 Speaker 1: Chris Greer, you have been around the Dolphins for a 2660 02:10:54,400 --> 02:10:57,200 Speaker 1: long time, good background, But he's never done this job before. 2661 02:10:57,320 --> 02:10:59,760 Speaker 1: Right is the general manager, brand new head coach, never 2662 02:11:00,040 --> 02:11:04,080 Speaker 1: the job before. I like several teams positioned much better 2663 02:11:04,160 --> 02:11:06,160 Speaker 1: than the Miami Dolphins right now, let me put it 2664 02:11:06,280 --> 02:11:08,240 Speaker 1: that way. Yeah, including the one that lives right next 2665 02:11:08,280 --> 02:11:10,240 Speaker 1: door here. Steve and I taken a break. We're coming 2666 02:11:10,280 --> 02:11:12,800 Speaker 1: back with more One Bills Live from One Bill's Drive. 2667 02:11:13,160 --> 02:11:29,840 Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bills Radio. Okay, so what have we learned? 2668 02:11:29,880 --> 02:11:32,760 Speaker 1: It's presented by Advanced Alarm providing Western New York's homes 2669 02:11:32,800 --> 02:11:36,320 Speaker 1: and businesses with the finest insecurity and home theater, the 2670 02:11:36,480 --> 02:11:39,520 Speaker 1: preferred alarm and home theater provider of the Buffalo Bills. 2671 02:11:39,520 --> 02:11:41,560 Speaker 1: We had a good show today. Chris Brown joined US 2672 02:11:41,600 --> 02:11:44,440 Speaker 1: Bills Insider Buffalo Bills dot com and we talked to 2673 02:11:44,520 --> 02:11:51,800 Speaker 1: him about the oh An offensive tackle ot I'm taking overtime. 2674 02:11:51,840 --> 02:11:54,200 Speaker 1: What we didn't talk about all the time. We talked 2675 02:11:54,200 --> 02:11:56,160 Speaker 1: to him about should the Bills be looking at an 2676 02:11:56,200 --> 02:11:58,720 Speaker 1: offensive tackle for their first election in the draft. Here's 2677 02:11:58,760 --> 02:12:02,480 Speaker 1: what he had to say. I don't think you can 2678 02:12:02,600 --> 02:12:07,040 Speaker 1: rule out an offensive tackle early. I'm telling you right now, 2679 02:12:07,160 --> 02:12:09,760 Speaker 1: at almost every position in this draft, with a few 2680 02:12:09,840 --> 02:12:15,160 Speaker 1: exceptions cornerback, running back, maybe a couple others, the meat 2681 02:12:15,240 --> 02:12:18,320 Speaker 1: and potatoes of this draft, Round two through five is 2682 02:12:18,560 --> 02:12:22,360 Speaker 1: really good at a lot of positions. Guard, tight end, 2683 02:12:22,880 --> 02:12:28,760 Speaker 1: wide receiver, offensive tackle, defensive line. I mean, there's gonna 2684 02:12:28,800 --> 02:12:31,240 Speaker 1: be a lot of good picks on Day two and 2685 02:12:31,400 --> 02:12:34,360 Speaker 1: early Day three, players that are gonna play eight ten 2686 02:12:34,480 --> 02:12:36,560 Speaker 1: years in this league and have a good career that 2687 02:12:36,640 --> 02:12:39,960 Speaker 1: are gonna help teams. NFL draft just a week and 2688 02:12:40,000 --> 02:12:41,600 Speaker 1: a half away. We'll talk a lot more about it 2689 02:12:41,680 --> 02:12:43,400 Speaker 1: as a week goes along. We talked about it with 2690 02:12:43,480 --> 02:12:47,280 Speaker 1: Dan Shaka of Old Our Lad's Guide to the NFL Draft. 2691 02:12:47,320 --> 02:12:51,240 Speaker 1: Today he's got the Bills choosing Clemson defensive tackle Christian 2692 02:12:51,360 --> 02:12:53,640 Speaker 1: Wilkins in the first round at nine overall. Here's what 2693 02:12:53,720 --> 02:12:57,920 Speaker 1: he said about it. You know, I really like him 2694 02:12:57,920 --> 02:13:01,120 Speaker 1: because here's a guy that's super small. He's a four 2695 02:13:01,240 --> 02:13:06,200 Speaker 1: year guy. He's a blue collar, hard working. Um. I 2696 02:13:06,280 --> 02:13:09,080 Speaker 1: mean to me, he's you know, we talked about Jekyl 2697 02:13:09,120 --> 02:13:13,440 Speaker 1: and high football players. This guy here, he's just tremendous, 2698 02:13:13,600 --> 02:13:17,200 Speaker 1: tremendous hard worker on the field and just a great 2699 02:13:17,400 --> 02:13:20,880 Speaker 1: human being off the field. And uh, I mean you 2700 02:13:21,000 --> 02:13:23,160 Speaker 1: can't go wrong with guys like that. I mean, this 2701 02:13:23,360 --> 02:13:25,840 Speaker 1: is this guy will give it to you every single down. 2702 02:13:26,880 --> 02:13:28,440 Speaker 1: I don't want to draft him. I want to adopt 2703 02:13:28,520 --> 02:13:32,320 Speaker 1: him now, Steve Christie Wilks and moving too my house 2704 02:13:32,400 --> 02:13:34,440 Speaker 1: with me now. It was good. Shock has got good 2705 02:13:34,440 --> 02:13:36,840 Speaker 1: stuff in his book. Is amazing Our Lads guy to 2706 02:13:36,880 --> 02:13:39,680 Speaker 1: the NFL Draft. He had good discussion today. We came 2707 02:13:39,720 --> 02:13:41,440 Speaker 1: in saying, did you see tag everybody went to work 2708 02:13:41,440 --> 02:13:43,200 Speaker 1: today and say that, And we talked about it, and 2709 02:13:43,240 --> 02:13:45,800 Speaker 1: I thought we got really good feedback from listeners on 2710 02:13:45,840 --> 02:13:48,640 Speaker 1: the phones and on Twitter. Butt where to put that 2711 02:13:48,800 --> 02:13:50,560 Speaker 1: in the NFL? Yeah, And I'll tell you this, here's 2712 02:13:50,600 --> 02:13:52,680 Speaker 1: why we did it. It's one of those rare moments 2713 02:13:52,680 --> 02:13:54,240 Speaker 1: in sports where you got to try and put it 2714 02:13:54,320 --> 02:13:56,800 Speaker 1: in context. It was so big and so unique and 2715 02:13:56,920 --> 02:13:59,840 Speaker 1: pretty cool by a guy everybody knows. You had to 2716 02:14:00,040 --> 02:14:02,000 Speaker 1: tend to think about it. It was fun, right, all right, 2717 02:14:02,040 --> 02:14:04,720 Speaker 1: Tomorrow we'll have more fun. Our production assistants George Blast, 2718 02:14:04,800 --> 02:14:07,400 Speaker 1: Jeff Colt, Nick Thomas, Honander, Kelly Rude, j j Rito, 2719 02:14:07,720 --> 02:14:10,720 Speaker 1: Kevin Cartis, James Robot, our producer Jay Harris, seeing tomorrow 2720 02:14:10,720 --> 02:14:12,840 Speaker 1: at noon. One Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive. This 2721 02:14:13,000 --> 02:14:14,200 Speaker 1: is Buffalo Bill's Radio