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Speaker 1: What's up, everybody? Welcome to Move the Sticks, presented by

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Speaker 1: Zaxby's DJ. Bucky Back with you, Buck. We have just

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Speaker 1: a couple of days here before we get this thing

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Speaker 1: kicked off with the NFL, and no shortage of news

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Speaker 1: to discuss today, No, I no shortages news. I mean,

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Speaker 1: such a busy weekend, and you know, it's always kind

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Speaker 1: We've seen people reshape their practice squab rosters and turn

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Speaker 1: a lot of stuff to talk about. And I'm excited

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Speaker 1: because football is only a few days away. Yeah, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna get to that that big game here with Chiefs

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Speaker 1: of that contest. But before we get to that and

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Speaker 1: some other NFL news, did you get a chance to

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Speaker 1: see any of the B y U Navy game. I

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Speaker 1: know you've always had an intrigue there with with the

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Speaker 1: triple options, so I'm asking you to check that out,

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Speaker 1: not only checked it out, I taped it so I

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Speaker 1: like because earlier this weekend I watched Army played Middle

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Speaker 1: are going, how they're going, what are they doing? And man,

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Speaker 1: the b y U Navy game was interesting for a

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Speaker 1: team talk about Navy did minimal contact, no live tackling,

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Speaker 1: they put on the field without tackling and without any physicality,

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Speaker 1: I mean, B y you just bullied them. And now

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429
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Speaker 1: see if why receiver becomes a position that we're like, hey, man,

430
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Speaker 1: we can find our guy in the second round. We

431
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Speaker 1: don't need to burn capital or draft capital in the

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Speaker 1: first round to get a premier wide receiver. How about

433
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Speaker 1: Davante Adams, how about Stefon Diggs. I mean we can

434
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Speaker 1: go on and on, uh, you know, Robert Woods, Cooper

435
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Speaker 1: Cup and on and on and on and on. I mean,

436
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Speaker 1: I mean there's something to be said for that, And

437
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Speaker 1: I think if you're confident, if you have a truant

438
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Speaker 1: track record and being able to know exactly what you

439
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Speaker 1: want at the wide receiver position, UM, it is a

440
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Speaker 1: position where you can find value outside of the first

441
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Speaker 1: round and that value can uh immediately turn into premiere

442
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Speaker 1: talent and premiere production. All Right, one more contract then

443
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Speaker 1: we'll get to the Chiefs Texans. Uh your thoughts on

444
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Speaker 1: Clowney his one year deal with the Titans. You know,

445
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Speaker 1: I have this weird relationship when I think about this

446
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Speaker 1: weird view when it comes to j Vian Clowney. Right,

447
00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:09,520
Speaker 1: Jadeveon Clowny was a number one overall pick, and a

448
00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:13,080
Speaker 1: lot of times when we take edge player number one,

449
00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:17,880
Speaker 1: we think sacks, dominance, disruption, um being able to put

450
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Speaker 1: up these numbers. Myles Garret gets twenty five million dollars

451
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Speaker 1: a year because the last two years he has like thirty,

452
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Speaker 1: like thirty sacks and a bunch of UM production on

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Speaker 1: the quarterback. And so with Jadeveon Clowney, I felt like

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Speaker 1: it was always going to be hard for him to

455
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Speaker 1: get the monster deal that he wanted because you see

456
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Speaker 1: the disruptiveness. But at some point you still have to

457
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Speaker 1: be able to get the quarterback down. He's never had

458
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Speaker 1: double digit sacks, and I know he has like eighty

459
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Speaker 1: quarterback hits, but there's a difference in hitting the quarterback

460
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Speaker 1: and taking the quarterback down. And so I think the

461
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Speaker 1: deal comes in about where it should be fifteen million

462
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Speaker 1: dollars because he is a very disruptive player against the run.

463
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Speaker 1: He is what I call a flash pass rusher. He

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Speaker 1: flashes at times, but I don't know if you can

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Speaker 1: pay him Khalil macmoney, Aaron Donald money when he doesn't

466
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Speaker 1: give you that kind of production. Yeah, I mean he's now,

467
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Speaker 1: he's better than this. I don't want to sound the

468
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Speaker 1: wrong come out the wrong way, but he's kind of

469
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Speaker 1: he's kind of an Instagram player, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: Where it's just if you look at these little ten

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Speaker 1: second cut ups, the fifteen second cut ups, and look,

472
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Speaker 1: I had him as the best player in that draft.

473
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Speaker 1: I gave him a huge grade. I recognize the talent.

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Speaker 1: Talent is unbelievable, but it hasn't. It just hasn't. He

475
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Speaker 1: hasn't sustained any success, any consistency. And that's some of

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Speaker 1: that's health related. I get it, but for his skill

477
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Speaker 1: set to not ever accumulated double digit sack season. I

478
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Speaker 1: see all the pressures. I get that. I know the

479
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Speaker 1: analytics people will tell you there's no difference between it,

480
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Speaker 1: and there's a difference you go into it, you go

481
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Speaker 1: and you go into the draft room, you go sitting

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Speaker 1: those free agency meetings. There's a difference from guys that

483
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Speaker 1: finish and guys that get pressures. And he just hasn't

484
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Speaker 1: been able to put together that type of success. And

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Speaker 1: so um I looked the the league doesn't lie. When

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Speaker 1: you can play, you're going to get paid. And the

487
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Speaker 1: guy sat out there forever and look at the money

488
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Speaker 1: that he got compared to what some of these other

489
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Speaker 1: guys you're talking about with Miles Garrett are getting. So

490
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Speaker 1: that's this is not one team's opinion on Jadeveon Clowney.

491
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Speaker 1: This is the whole league had an opportunity here, and

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Speaker 1: this is what the league believes his value is, which

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Speaker 1: is not as good as his talent level. Yeah, that

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Speaker 1: that that is true. And I will also say this DJ,

495
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Speaker 1: like if we go and I think what people have

496
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Speaker 1: to understand is like what we may think about a

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Speaker 1: player when he's drafted. That's great, because that's a projection.

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Speaker 1: Once they get to the pros, that is the evaluation

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Speaker 1: on this is who you are, this is what you've done,

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Speaker 1: This is who you are. And I think the thing

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Speaker 1: for Jadevion Clowney that he's never done. He's a great athlete,

502
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Speaker 1: but he's an unskilled pass rush. Meaning when I look

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Speaker 1: at him compared to the Joey Boss of the world,

504
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Speaker 1: compared to some of the other guys that the Neil Hunters,

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Speaker 1: he does doesn't have what they have in the toolbox.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't have a fastball, a curveball, and a change up.

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Speaker 1: His fastball is all he has, but it's not dominant

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Speaker 1: enough for him to get to the quarterback consistently. And

509
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Speaker 1: so what do you do with a guy like that?

510
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Speaker 1: This is what you do. You pay him twelve million

511
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Speaker 1: with the sentences to get up to fifteen million, and

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Speaker 1: I think he's a mercenary for maybe the rest of

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Speaker 1: his career. So one you deal. I mean, he's he's

514
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Speaker 1: kind of similar, you know, and domin con sus kind

515
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Speaker 1: of turned into this right and at the back end

516
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Speaker 1: of his career where he's just doing these kind of

517
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Speaker 1: continual one to your deals. Yeah, and and and and

518
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Speaker 1: Jadevion clown Maybe he'll get it after this, but I

519
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Speaker 1: think the bigger thing for the Tennessee Titans, here's what

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Speaker 1: he gives them. Um, Harold l like it's interesting because

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Speaker 1: there are three edge rushes are Harold Landry, Dadeveon Clowney,

522
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Speaker 1: and Vic Beasley. I believe Vic Beasley is more pass rusher.

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Speaker 1: Only Dadeveon Clowney is better run player than pass rusher.

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Speaker 1: I think they have to fig got how their rotation is.

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Speaker 1: I think Harold Landry is probably the better player of

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Speaker 1: them all when it comes to who is going to

527
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Speaker 1: end up being more complete? This is my opinion. How

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Speaker 1: does how does Mike Vrabel use these guys? Does he

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Speaker 1: kick d Davian Clowney inside, because remember Mike Rabel was

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Speaker 1: the defensive coordinated for Houston Texas. He moved to David

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Speaker 1: Clowney around a little bit. Um. I think J. J.

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Speaker 1: Watts may have been absent some of that year when

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Speaker 1: he was the d C, so he got a chance

534
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Speaker 1: to play and that might have been Dadavian Clowney's best

535
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Speaker 1: years when he moved around and he had more responsibility

536
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Speaker 1: on him. I'm curious to see how Mike Vrabel deploys

537
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Speaker 1: him to see the maximum value that he can get

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Speaker 1: out of him. Well, I mean, I think the most

539
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Speaker 1: talented player in their front might be Jeffrey Simmons. Oh,

540
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:52,919
Speaker 1: you know, being able to inside and you can you

541
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Speaker 1: can kick Clowney in there on some subsituations and let

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Speaker 1: them work off each other. So, um, they've they've they've

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Speaker 1: got some dudes up there. I do think that Clowney

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Speaker 1: kind of fits um kind of the the uh the bully.

545
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Speaker 1: You know that they're trying to build there in that division,

546
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Speaker 1: right they they hummeled the Ravens just you know, Ravens

547
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,120
Speaker 1: are physical team and they beat them up. And now

548
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:17,159
Speaker 1: you can give Clowney Clowney whatever the stat sheet will

549
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Speaker 1: say at the end of the game. You don't want

550
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:20,400
Speaker 1: to be the guy that's gotta block him. You're gonna

551
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Speaker 1: be in the tub the next day because he is

552
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:23,920
Speaker 1: going to beat you up because it is a bull

553
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Speaker 1: in a china shop and he's he's just a very

554
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Speaker 1: physical player. So I think from a play standpoint, um, stylistically,

555
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Speaker 1: he kind of fits into what they're building there under Rabel.

556
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Speaker 1: I like that description building the child shop. I think

557
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Speaker 1: there's something else that came out of this negotiation, not

558
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Speaker 1: necessarily with the Tennessee Titans, but the New Orleans Saints

559
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 1: attempting to be very creative, attempting to be very I

560
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:53,000
Speaker 1: would say NBA MLB like in their dealings, trying to

561
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Speaker 1: get someone to sign him, then trade him and then

562
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Speaker 1: offer a PIX in cash and exchange. Um, what do

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Speaker 1: think about that? What do you think about the creativity? Now,

564
00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:04,840
Speaker 1: the NFL nicks the deal, but what do you think

565
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Speaker 1: about really trying to think outside of the box to

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Speaker 1: get a deal done with the player that you wanted. Well,

567
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 1: we talked about using every weapon at your disposal when

568
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Speaker 1: you're putting together a game plan offensively or defensively. Same

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Speaker 1: thing when you're trying to work around the salary cap. Right.

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Speaker 1: I mean this to me, I I don't mind it.

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Speaker 1: I think if it's it's creative. If I if I'm

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Speaker 1: a team and I've been um um, I've been very

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Speaker 1: you know, cost conscious in constructing my roster. And I've

574
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Speaker 1: got extra salary cap space, and you're telling me I

575
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Speaker 1: can basically use some of my salary cap space to

576
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Speaker 1: absorb a contract and then get a pick. Like I'm

577
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,280
Speaker 1: using every avenue I have to try and make my

578
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Speaker 1: team better. I kind of like it. I think it's

579
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Speaker 1: fun now. I think it's great, and I am so

580
00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:51,159
Speaker 1: glad that maybe some of it Mickey Loomis and the

581
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:53,879
Speaker 1: Saints aren't the young generation. But I am so glad

582
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 1: like the new generation of general managers and decision makers.

583
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Speaker 1: They are unafraid dj They're unafraid to jet and picks,

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Speaker 1: to under trade, to trade for players. We have seen

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Speaker 1: more transactions did I would say yesteryear, we would call

586
00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 1: those bold moves that you would never see. You would

587
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 1: never see people give up picks for players. And now

588
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,720
Speaker 1: we're seeing guys like, hey man, we're all in. We're

589
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,239
Speaker 1: trying to make it happen. We're going forward now, and

590
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:20,399
Speaker 1: we're we're not worried about what the outside world thinks

591
00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:25,400
Speaker 1: about us giving up currency for the draft two. We're

592
00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 1: trying to rent right now. And so I love it.

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Speaker 1: I love the out of the box thinking. I just

594
00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 1: believe the league is going to a different place and

595
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:37,120
Speaker 1: you have to jump on board, and if you're not adaptable, flexible, creative,

596
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 1: you can get left behind. It is interesting, though, you know,

597
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Speaker 1: on the money side of things. Next year, we don't

598
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Speaker 1: know what the salary cap is going to look like.

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Speaker 1: You know, we'll see what happens with these new TV

600
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Speaker 1: contracts and how they end up trying to defer some

601
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Speaker 1: of the losses they're gonna have this year from no

602
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 1: fans or limited fans in the stands. But we don't

603
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Speaker 1: have a great feel for what that number looks like. So,

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Speaker 1: you know, whatever creativity you saw them attempt in this

605
00:29:00,040 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 1: trade that wasn't allowed, I think we're setting up for

606
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 1: this next year, this next calendar year. Man, you're gonna

607
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 1: have to You're gonna see some really creative things take

608
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Speaker 1: place and are in order to try and figure this

609
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Speaker 1: salary cap out. Yeah, I think there's gonna do that.

610
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Speaker 1: And I think the teams that really understand the salary cap,

611
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Speaker 1: really understand the players that they really want, and are

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00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:23,080
Speaker 1: unafraid to make these hard decisions, They're going to be fine.

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Speaker 1: And I think the one thing that I've learned this offseason,

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Speaker 1: particularly during training camp, because we've seen a flurry of deals,

615
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Speaker 1: if you want to play, you can find the money.

616
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Speaker 1: You can find the money under the couch Cristians to

617
00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 1: pay the players that you want to keep. The players

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Speaker 1: that you believe are your core players. You can get

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00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 1: those deals done. And so we can talk about the

620
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Speaker 1: economics and whether there's gonna be a reduction of the cap.

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Speaker 1: But the teams, um that understand the players that they

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Speaker 1: won't find a way to get it done. Yep, you're

623
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 1: exactly right, all right, But lets jump into this game

624
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Speaker 1: here real quick. Texans chiefs. I guess, um, the thing

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Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to the most, and I feel like

626
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Speaker 1: we've touched on this on the pod before, or is

627
00:30:01,400 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 1: I'm looking I'm anxious to see with these two teams.

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Speaker 1: I think you can make a case these are two

629
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Speaker 1: fastest offenses in the National Football League. Just the most

630
00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 1: speed they can throw out on the field. Um, and

631
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Speaker 1: so you have play speed and then you also have pace,

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Speaker 1: uh you know, pace of play. I'm anxious to see

633
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,640
Speaker 1: just how fast these teams look on the grass and

634
00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 1: then how fast they play that those are, to me

635
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 1: are the two things I'm looking forward to. Yeah, look,

636
00:30:23,160 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I'm really excited to see these teams. Now. Uh,

637
00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 1: let's let's focus on the Texas for a minute, right

638
00:30:28,880 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 1: because Deseans Watson's deal is the most recent. So let's

639
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 1: look at what they've done with the team. So they

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Speaker 1: lose DeAndre Howkins, they bring over Ramda Cop, they have

641
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Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks. Will Fuller is really kind of the Lynch

642
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Speaker 1: pinted the offense because they're drastically different when he plays

643
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Speaker 1: and when he doesn't play. And then they have David

644
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 1: Johnson Um. I think this team becomes a little more

645
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 1: New England like in terms of the way that they play.

646
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:56,240
Speaker 1: When Bill O'Brien um, even though he's conceded like control

647
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 1: of the offense to his offensive coordinator, I think this

648
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 1: becomes more of a ding can dunk team with selective

649
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,160
Speaker 1: shots down the field, whereas before I think it was

650
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 1: a feat the ball to DeAndre Hopkins, and it kind

651
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 1: of I would say stunted. Maybe a little bit of

652
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson's growth. I think now he has to use

653
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 1: the entire field and that should make Deshaun Watson a

654
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 1: better player. And I'm gonna say this, and I know

655
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 1: people have really dumped on David Johnson because the last

656
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:23,560
Speaker 1: year and a half, the last two years in Arizona,

657
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 1: he wasn't very good. I think we could see a

658
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 1: re emergence of David Johnson, not just as a runner,

659
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,800
Speaker 1: but as a guy that catches fifty to sixty balls

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00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 1: out of the backfield, and he makes his mark by

661
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 1: Italian scrimmage yards, the combination of running and receiving yards

662
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Speaker 1: over a hundred. If he becomes a guy that can

663
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 1: give them a hundred scrimmag yards the game. I think

664
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Speaker 1: this offense is not only balanced, but I think it's

665
00:31:47,720 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 1: a more difficult offense to defend than the one that

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Speaker 1: they had with DeAndre Hopkins. I'll say something right now

667
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 1: that I don't know that we've ever said about the

668
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Speaker 1: bell O'Brien Houston Texas. I think their offensive line is

669
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Speaker 1: actually going to be good. Um you. Deshaun Watson has

670
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,320
Speaker 1: been running for his life through his entire career. It's

671
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 1: a it's a miracle that he's been able to stay

672
00:32:05,040 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 1: as healthy as he has um for the most part

673
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 1: during his time there. But you saw the trades that

674
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 1: they made and saw some of the picks. Now, they

675
00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 1: weren't able to keep all those guys on the field

676
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 1: and keep them healthy. Titus Howard missed a big chunk

677
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 1: of time last year. But Max Sharpening, who they took,

678
00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 1: is a good young player. Um you look at Titus Howard.

679
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,760
Speaker 1: You look obviously, Larremy Tunsel I think is the most

680
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 1: talented left tackle in the National Football League. They've they've

681
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 1: actually got a pretty good offensive line in front of

682
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Speaker 1: de Shaun Watson, which he has never had before. UM,

683
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:33,959
Speaker 1: and so not only Canna be able to protect him

684
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 1: a little bit. Uh. It makes you see what David

685
00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 1: Johnson does run the football. It makes you see what

686
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Speaker 1: they look like running the football, because I think they

687
00:32:39,600 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 1: have a chance. They've got some guys that can get

688
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,800
Speaker 1: some movement there at the point of attack. I'm excited

689
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Speaker 1: to see what this Houston offense looks like. Yeah, I'm

690
00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 1: excited to see that now. Obviously, whenever you talking about

691
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 1: the Kansa the Chiefs, the excitement is always on their

692
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:54,120
Speaker 1: video game like offense. UM. And we can talk about

693
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Speaker 1: Pat Mahomes and the weapons that they have on the outside. Uh, Tyreekyo,

694
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 1: Sammy Watkins, Travis Kelsey. Uh, those guys are terrific. Miko

695
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 1: Harman gives them speed. But obviously I think a lot

696
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 1: of detention has to be on the backfield. And Clyde

697
00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 1: Edwards a lark like they used the first round picking them.

698
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 1: The comparisons to Brian Westbrook certainly make your eye your

699
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 1: eyebrows raised because you know how dominant and in fact

700
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,959
Speaker 1: that Brian Westbrook was for Andy Reid in that offense

701
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 1: in Philadelphia. And so, man, you just think about how

702
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 1: this offense has been able to go. And I'll say this,

703
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:29,160
Speaker 1: the offense, in my mind, took a step back when

704
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 1: they lost Kareem Hunt. When Kareem Hunt was there, that

705
00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 1: offense was unstoppable. And even though they were able to

706
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 1: win a Super Bowl and get by, it was still

707
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 1: a difference when they didn't have to look they got

708
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 1: by with some running backs Damian Williams and all those guys.

709
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Speaker 1: But now you give them a legitimate playmaker in the

710
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 1: backfield and Clyde Edwards a lark. I think this offense

711
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,600
Speaker 1: returns to the level that we saw with Kareem Hunt.

712
00:33:53,680 --> 00:33:55,520
Speaker 1: And I think they're saying something for an offense that

713
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 1: has been scoring thirty points a pop, no matter who

714
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 1: was in the backfield behind Pat, What are you looking

715
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 1: at defensively in this matchup? Personally, I'm I'm anxious to

716
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 1: just see what what Tyrone Matthew does. You know, with

717
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 1: another year of just being comfortable in this system, we

718
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:14,600
Speaker 1: saw how much improvement he made through the year last year. Uh,

719
00:34:14,640 --> 00:34:16,279
Speaker 1: and I think now you get a chance with him

720
00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 1: with Pagnolo, he's gonna be Uh, he's gonna be really

721
00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 1: cut loose. I'm anxious to see how they used him,

722
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 1: what all he does. Look man, it it should be

723
00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 1: really exciting, um to see what they do because this

724
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 1: defense settled in the last six games of the regular

725
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 1: season and play well during the playoffs. So Nodada, everyone

726
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:35,000
Speaker 1: knows exactly what they're doing. I think they should play

727
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 1: play well. Um. I need to shout this guy out

728
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 1: because my high school teammate is their secondary coach, David Merritt.

729
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,840
Speaker 1: David mart and I played together since we were like

730
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 1: fifteen sixty years old. I went to North Carolina, he

731
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:49,080
Speaker 1: went to State. He has worked his way up the

732
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 1: coaching ranks. He is ready to be a de coordinator.

733
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Speaker 1: He handles this secondary. Today is his birthday, so had

734
00:34:54,960 --> 00:34:57,439
Speaker 1: birthday to my man de Marritt. We get a chance

735
00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,880
Speaker 1: to see him on Thursday. But yeah, I'm excited to

736
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,480
Speaker 1: to see what Tyron Matthew does on defense. And then

737
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 1: with the Houston Texas. I don't know if people have

738
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 1: talked about enough, but Anthony Weavers now the new defensive

739
00:35:09,600 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 1: coordinator and the challenge that he hass not only been

740
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,760
Speaker 1: a new defensive coordinator, but when you've been a defensive

741
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:19,239
Speaker 1: alignement all your life, you now think about the game

742
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 1: from front to back. And does he have the breath

743
00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:26,239
Speaker 1: of knowledge when it comes to secondary play to be

744
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:28,560
Speaker 1: able to be able to put this together or does

745
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 1: he have people around him to help him put together

746
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,479
Speaker 1: to back end to match the way that he wants

747
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 1: to play on the front end. Normally, DJ the defensive

748
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 1: coordinators that we've seen are guys with either linebacker backgrounds

749
00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:47,280
Speaker 1: or secondary backgrounds. Because coverage is so critical in this game.

750
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Speaker 1: How does Anthony Weaver tie all of this stuff in?

751
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:53,839
Speaker 1: Being a guy that look he made his hey being

752
00:35:53,840 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 1: a defensive alignement. How much does he know about the

753
00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 1: entire package when it comes to putting to cover to

754
00:36:00,200 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 1: go with the rush. Yeah? I was there with the

755
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,600
Speaker 1: Ravens when he was a defensive tackle. There was a

756
00:36:04,600 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 1: good player, very very smart, and obviously you see what

757
00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 1: he's done to rise up to the coaching ranks. Buck.

758
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 1: I I like, uh, you know, I like a couple

759
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 1: of pieces they have on defense. But when I just

760
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 1: look at this matchup. I mean they're gonna have to

761
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 1: score thirty five forty points to win this game. I

762
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 1: just don't see this secondary being able to hold up

763
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 1: against the Chiefs now and the only the only thing

764
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:28,520
Speaker 1: that can help him is to turnover game. We saw

765
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:30,839
Speaker 1: this in the playoffs. Uh kan see he get off

766
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:33,520
Speaker 1: to a slow start, had a couple of giveaways. The

767
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 1: Texans ran out. The problem is they can hit the

768
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 1: three ball. I mean they're like the Houston Rockets. Like

769
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,479
Speaker 1: they hit a couple of threes. They can get going.

770
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:47,239
Speaker 1: And so the big play is really the key. I

771
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,920
Speaker 1: believe for the Texas to win, they cannot let the

772
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 1: ball flower over their head. They almost have to play

773
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 1: ben but don't break and dare Pat Mahomes to win

774
00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 1: in a very disciplined style. You can't let them get

775
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,200
Speaker 1: the ass of seeing Tyreek Hill is Sammy watchers that

776
00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey have a big play, because if you do that,

777
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:08,400
Speaker 1: you have no chance. I agree with you, Um, you

778
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:09,920
Speaker 1: want to pick a winner in this game? Who who

779
00:37:09,960 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 1: do you like in this one? Buck, I'm gonna go

780
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,359
Speaker 1: to Chiefs, and I understand the pressures on them coming back,

781
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 1: all of the dynasty talk. Uh, there's really no pressure

782
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 1: on the Texas. I just think the Chiefs are a

783
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 1: better team, and I think this is his version is

784
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 1: better than last year's version. Uh. The only thing uh

785
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,520
Speaker 1: that would make me pause for them during the years,

786
00:37:27,960 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 1: can they handle the weight of getting everybody's best punch

787
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,319
Speaker 1: each and every week. But for the opener, I'm gonna

788
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 1: I gotta go, I gotta go in to Chiefs. Yep,

789
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:37,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Chiefs on that one too. I

790
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:38,960
Speaker 1: don't know where I have to look at the numbers

791
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:40,920
Speaker 1: of what they've been in openers under Andy Reid, but

792
00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:43,320
Speaker 1: I know obviously what they are after Bie Weeks anytime

793
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,440
Speaker 1: he's had a long time to get dialed in on

794
00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 1: an opponent pretty darn good. So I think the Chiefs one.

795
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:50,360
Speaker 1: Not when I think the Texans put up some points,

796
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 1: but I think the I think the Chiefs end up

797
00:37:52,160 --> 00:37:54,799
Speaker 1: winning that football game. Um, all right, but let's get

798
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:57,239
Speaker 1: some predictions here real quick. Uh just kind of some

799
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 1: season predictions. I'll give you mine and then UH see

800
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,799
Speaker 1: what you got. So m v P. I did Dak Prescott,

801
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 1: which I think really Twitter was really happy with, except

802
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:11,600
Speaker 1: that they weren't uh defensive Player of the Year, Miles Garrett,

803
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:16,240
Speaker 1: uh Offensive Rookie of the Year, Clyde Edwards, Hilaire Defensive

804
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 1: Rookie of the Year. Really going out on a limb

805
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:19,759
Speaker 1: with this one with Chase Young and then Coach of

806
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 1: the Year. I did Anthony Lynn with the Chargers because

807
00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 1: I did the Chargers if they, you know, somehow we're

808
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 1: to go nine and seven or tenant six and sneak

809
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:29,520
Speaker 1: in the playoffs after you know, moving on from Philip Rivers,

810
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 1: I think that Anthony Lynne would get some credit for that. Man, Okay,

811
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 1: I dig it um, I'm I'm I'm a I'm a

812
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 1: rocky world. Because I believe the m v P is

813
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 1: going to come out in New England. I think Cam

814
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:44,080
Speaker 1: Newton is gonna really candidate. I think the Patriots are

815
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 1: gonna be much better than anybody imagine. So I'm going

816
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 1: with I'm going with Cam Newton as my m v P,

817
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 1: my defensive Player of the Year. Like this is interesting

818
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 1: because I believe the guy should have got more recognition

819
00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 1: last year but kind of fell off at the end.

820
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:01,280
Speaker 1: Uh Mike and Fitzpatrick will play bigger goal for the

821
00:39:01,360 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 1: Steller's defense. I think he gets in the mix in

822
00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 1: terms of offensive Rookie of the Year, I'm gonna kind

823
00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:08,800
Speaker 1: of play chalk. I'm gonna go with Joe Burrow. I

824
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 1: think Joe Burrow's position this offense is much better than

825
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 1: people will give it credit for Joe Mix and being resigned.

826
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 1: Um A j Green coming back, Tyler boy, I think

827
00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:19,920
Speaker 1: they have some pieces. I think he's going to put

828
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:23,080
Speaker 1: up enough numbers to get that. UM. I love your

829
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 1: pick with Chase Young to wash their risk. His defense

830
00:39:27,840 --> 00:39:30,880
Speaker 1: should be nasty and he is well positioned to be

831
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 1: in a spot to get a lot of recognition. Coach

832
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:37,680
Speaker 1: of the Year. Let's go with Mike McCarthy for the

833
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:42,440
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys. Dallas Carboys have really changed up things a lot.

834
00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,840
Speaker 1: Uh Did I cover it all? Am? I missing anybody?

835
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 1: Offensive Player of the Year, I guess, but that is

836
00:39:51,000 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 1: typically tied with M v P. So I'm gonna go

837
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:54,719
Speaker 1: with Kim because I think Cam is gonna be extraordinary

838
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 1: this year. Can I give you my h I love

839
00:39:57,120 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 1: the Cam Newton call. By the way, my uh as

840
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 1: we called Bowl prediction or whatever, but just kind of

841
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,280
Speaker 1: if you look back on the air and a shocking,

842
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:06,640
Speaker 1: shocking development, I think look, Cam new would be the

843
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 1: MVP would probably classify that is that. I'm gonna say,

844
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 1: the two guys they're going to have the most interceptions

845
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:16,840
Speaker 1: in the National Football League this year are two players

846
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 1: that do not have a career interception in the National

847
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,640
Speaker 1: Football League. That's my ball prediction, and we give you

848
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 1: who we got. Yeah, please all right. Antoine Winfield was

849
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 1: announced as a starter for the Bucks as a roast.

850
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:33,239
Speaker 1: Antoine Winfield, when he's been healthy in college alway does

851
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 1: pick off the football. He's got unbelievable instincts. Obviously everybody

852
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Speaker 1: knows his dad, but he's he's gonna be planning. You know.

853
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Speaker 1: You would hope that that offense with Brady and all

854
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 1: those weapons are gonna get some leads, play with leads,

855
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Speaker 1: ball goes up in the air, they have a pass

856
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Speaker 1: rush with Shack Barrett and JPP. All that math to

857
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Speaker 1: me kind of works for him being able to get

858
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Speaker 1: his hands on six or seven balls potentially. The other

859
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Speaker 1: one is a name that I think everybody has forgotten

860
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Speaker 1: about um and that is the Seer Adderly for the

861
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 1: Chargers and Nasir Adderly. I loved him. I thought he

862
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Speaker 1: was the perfect compliment to Derwin. James Derwin James can

863
00:41:07,520 --> 00:41:10,400
Speaker 1: played down n Sira Adderie played high at Delaware. He

864
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 1: was a ball hawk, unbelievable ball skills. He plays in

865
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Speaker 1: the preseason. He only played one game. I was against

866
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Speaker 1: the Niners. I think it was the third or fourth

867
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Speaker 1: week of the preseason. He had a pick, He almost

868
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Speaker 1: had three picks. Got You could just see him ranging

869
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Speaker 1: all over the place. But last year he just he

870
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Speaker 1: wasn't healthy. He missed basically the whole season. Um so

871
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Speaker 1: he didn't You just didn't see him out there. So

872
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Speaker 1: now Derwin James gets nicked, I think that's gonna provide

873
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:36,359
Speaker 1: an opportunity for him. He's healthy. Now it's year two

874
00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,839
Speaker 1: of the games slowed down for him, and again you

875
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Speaker 1: have a pass rush with botha and Ingram. I think

876
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:43,719
Speaker 1: what it will do is a free up ra Sean

877
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Speaker 1: Jenkins to drop down and then you could put now

878
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Speaker 1: Nasri Adderly high. So I don't know. These are two

879
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,399
Speaker 1: young guys with big time instincts playing behind a pass rush,

880
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:55,839
Speaker 1: and to me, that bodes well for big numbers. That's

881
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 1: the best way to do it. Like the best way

882
00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 1: to be able to do it is one you're playing

883
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Speaker 1: uh with an offense that scores points because the offense

884
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 1: that scores points puts pressure on the opponent to be

885
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:09,000
Speaker 1: able to chase points. That gives you an opportunity. Both

886
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Speaker 1: of those guys have rushes in front of him, gives

887
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Speaker 1: them a chance to get um interceptions off tips and overthrows.

888
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Speaker 1: So no, I I like that. I am big on that.

889
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 1: I got another safety that I want people to keep

890
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Speaker 1: an eye on. Uh. The Dallas Cowboys surprisingly cut high

891
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 1: Clinton Dicks. Their starting safety is Darien Thompson from Boise State.

892
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 1: Remember Darren Thompson. When he was coming out of college,

893
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:34,240
Speaker 1: he broke Eric Weddle's career interception record in the Mountain

894
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Speaker 1: West with nineteen picks. Guys who get picks in college

895
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Speaker 1: continue to get picks in the pros. I think he

896
00:42:40,080 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 1: could be well positioned and Mike Nolan split safety defense

897
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:45,640
Speaker 1: to get his hands on a lot of balls. I

898
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Speaker 1: like it. Man said, we get a little safety, A

899
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 1: little bonus nuggets there for you. Um. By the way,

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Speaker 1: real quick, did we uh? We didn't discuss this yet.

901
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 1: How funny is it that that Josh McCowen got that

902
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 1: deal to stay in Texas but to be the emergency

903
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:01,680
Speaker 1: quarterback when we've been taught. Once they announced the rules

904
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Speaker 1: with the practice squad that you could have veterans, I

905
00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:05,200
Speaker 1: went back and looked at it. I think it was

906
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 1: June three or early June when we kicked around this

907
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 1: idea on the podcast of basically using the uh you know,

908
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 1: one of those spots for a for veteran quarterbacks that

909
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:17,840
Speaker 1: could do a couple of things. They can be your

910
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,439
Speaker 1: emergency quarterback in case you need him. They can help

911
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:23,879
Speaker 1: basically be another quarterback coach um and and be able

912
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 1: to mentor some guys. Now I saw some people on

913
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Speaker 1: Twitter when you tweeted that out. Some people said, how

914
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Speaker 1: he can't mentor anybody, He can't help anybody when he's

915
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Speaker 1: in Texas. Uh. Yeah, can when when you're Carson Wentz

916
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Speaker 1: and you say, hey, you know we have the Redskins

917
00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 1: and can you go back and watch uh, you know three,

918
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 1: you know, three or four games from Carolina, so I

919
00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:44,080
Speaker 1: can see what you think of that defense that that

920
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 1: when del Rio was there, what they ran blah blah

921
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:50,880
Speaker 1: blah blah blah. You're an employee, he basically, Josh McCown

922
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,759
Speaker 1: can be an employee of Carson Wentz in Texas. You

923
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:56,719
Speaker 1: didn't have to be right there. No, he doesn't. And man,

924
00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 1: you just talked about jasmcown wants to be a coach.

925
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 1: I mean this is the ultimate training because you talk

926
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 1: about he is now the special projects coach. He is

927
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Speaker 1: the guy that does all of the other stuff. And

928
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Speaker 1: we have heard great quarterbacks paid men and would talk

929
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Speaker 1: about the projects that he would give his backup quarterbacks.

930
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:14,920
Speaker 1: So when he was yeah he was step into the

931
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Speaker 1: room on Monday's, the backup quarterback would have all of

932
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:21,880
Speaker 1: this information already ready for him when they begin to

933
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:24,799
Speaker 1: look towards the next week. I think this is a

934
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Speaker 1: great uh thing for Josh McCown. The fact that he

935
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Speaker 1: was able to play the way that he played in

936
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Speaker 1: the playoffs. He gives them a lot and so this

937
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 1: is a terrific idea and I think it works. But DJ,

938
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 1: there's something else that I want to talk about with

939
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:43,359
Speaker 1: the practice squad. Um. I don't know if you saw

940
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Speaker 1: who the San Francisco forty Niners have been keeping on

941
00:44:47,800 --> 00:44:50,200
Speaker 1: their practice squad. I'm trying to pull it up. The

942
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:54,200
Speaker 1: names that have like guys like Kevin White is on

943
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:59,239
Speaker 1: the squad, veteran guys. I did see that Okay, so

944
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:03,399
Speaker 1: here you go Kevin White, Dion Jordan's, Jonathan Cyprian. So

945
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:07,160
Speaker 1: these are guys exception of that of Kevin White, Deon Jordan, what,

946
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:10,040
Speaker 1: they played a lot of football. So now with your

947
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 1: unlimited spots, you're putting real players there. And so when

948
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:16,160
Speaker 1: we talk about the call up system, it is something

949
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:18,239
Speaker 1: that is real. And I had a conversation with the

950
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Speaker 1: guy that is a high ranking officially for one of

951
00:45:20,520 --> 00:45:22,920
Speaker 1: those teams and he said, look, man, we feel like

952
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 1: we've done a great job with our practice squad. We've

953
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 1: does some out of the box thinking, Um, we're trying

954
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 1: to make sure that we have loaded it up with

955
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 1: guys that can play. So if we get in one

956
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 1: of these jams and we need guys to play, we

957
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 1: not only have a mix of young guys to develop,

958
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:36,759
Speaker 1: but we have players that we really can bring them

959
00:45:36,840 --> 00:45:40,359
Speaker 1: up and utilize them at a moment's notice. Yeah, it's

960
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:43,040
Speaker 1: interesting to see how many, how different, uh, all the

961
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:45,680
Speaker 1: different approaches teams are using with this practice squad. Again,

962
00:45:45,719 --> 00:45:46,839
Speaker 1: you look at the teams that are ready to win

963
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:48,919
Speaker 1: right now that it's this is their Triple A team.

964
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:50,719
Speaker 1: You look at teams that maybe a little more long

965
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 1: term that they're trying to develop some of their younger guys.

966
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:55,919
Speaker 1: So UM, different strategies there. I think it makes it fun.

967
00:45:56,480 --> 00:45:58,439
Speaker 1: Um anything else you want to add before we jump

968
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Speaker 1: out of here, Buck, No, look, just make sure when

969
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:05,840
Speaker 1: it comes to Hard Knock tonight. Tonight is the finale.

970
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Speaker 1: Check that out. Check that out, and be able to

971
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Speaker 1: make sure you check out the podcast by our buddy

972
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Speaker 1: Peter Schreeger. Uh. He'll be discussing that final episode there

973
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 1: Tuesday at ten Eastern as when you can find Hard

974
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Speaker 1: Knocks and you can find the Hard Knocks podcast wherever

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Speaker 1: want to thank everybody that's left us the ratings and

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Speaker 1: to let us know who the best high school football

984
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Speaker 1: player you've ever seen, and some of the names that

985
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:52,760
Speaker 1: have come through recently, Uh, fantastic Reggie Bush, Mike Hughes

986
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Speaker 1: and Kwam Bold and Peter Wark. I'd love to see

987
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Speaker 1: some highlights of Peter work in high school Shack Thompson,

988
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Speaker 1: Tim Dwhite. People forget Tim White could fly uh in

989
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Speaker 1: Jadeveon Clowney. Not a surprise there with Clowney. No, not

990
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Speaker 1: a surprise at all. Like he was the dominant player

991
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:08,720
Speaker 1: in high school, number one over a recruit in his class.

992
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Speaker 1: But man Reggie Bush and Kwan Bowden because I think

993
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Speaker 1: Anon Bolden was a quarterback. Peter Wark to stop star

994
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Speaker 1: quitness that Peter Work showed at Florida State, I can

995
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Speaker 1: only imagine what it looked like in high school. I

996
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Speaker 1: can't wait till we finally get all these guys and

997
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:23,080
Speaker 1: look at some of the Hotel highlights and really get

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Speaker 1: excited about what they were um as high schoolers and

999
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:29,520
Speaker 1: also talk about what they were in the National Football League. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I love it. Thank you guys for forgiving us that feedback.

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Speaker 1: by the way, did you see that I challenged around

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Speaker 1: the NFL guys to a debate. I figure it's election season,

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Speaker 1: so let's let's have an mts A t N debate

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Speaker 1: to Erica also being a co moderator. If they want

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Speaker 1: to do to moderators, we can do that. Yeah, Tampa,

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Speaker 1: she absolutely can't get on that, so we'll see what

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Speaker 1: happens there. All right, that's gonna do it for us today. Guys,

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Speaker 1: enjoy the kickoff to the NFL season. I know we're

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Speaker 1: looking forward to it, and we will be back to

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Speaker 1: recap that game with a special episode on Friday with

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Speaker 1: our good friend David Shaw, head coach at Stanford, who

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Speaker 1: has a little time on his hands as it turns out,

1019
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Speaker 1: so he's gonna watch this game. Uh, and he's gonna

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Speaker 1: be able to break it down with us on Friday.

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Speaker 1: So be on the lookout for that podcast. That's gonna

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Speaker 1: do it for us today. Thank you, guys so much

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