WEBVTT - 111823 Healing Generational Trauma with Iya Affo (Part 2)

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<v Speaker 1>If you just tune in a civic cipher. I am

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<v Speaker 1>your host Ramsey's job. Big shout out to my man

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<v Speaker 1>c Ward, who is off in Manila, literally because that's

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<v Speaker 1>what he does. Lucky him. But I'd like to also

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<v Speaker 1>say lucky me, because I am here with the brilliant

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<v Speaker 1>mind that is ya Afo. And I'm also here with

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<v Speaker 1>a good friend of the show and a fellow activist

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<v Speaker 1>once upon a Time, and a fellow do gooder and

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<v Speaker 1>one of my favorite people, Leanna Taylor, and we're having

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<v Speaker 1>a conversation about generational trauma that I feel is very

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<v Speaker 1>important for you to stick around for the second half

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<v Speaker 1>of the show and listen to and learn from the

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<v Speaker 1>conversation that we're having today. That so far it's been

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<v Speaker 1>very informative, and I know we're not going to cover everything,

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<v Speaker 1>but we'll definitely be sure to leave you with some

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<v Speaker 1>connective tissue so you can do some independent studies and

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully create a link with you Yah and the work

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<v Speaker 2>To quote, I'm chomping at the bit, yes, Okay, I've

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<v Speaker 2>been waiting to be able to say this. I'm blown

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<v Speaker 2>away that you use I mean, we're aligned in a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of ways, Okay, but yeah we are. I'm blown

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<v Speaker 2>away that you use this example of the barrel of laughs.

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<v Speaker 2>Collectivist people, people from collectivist cultures have what some scientists

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<v Speaker 2>call the funny bone gene. Okay, I won't get to

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<v Speaker 2>sciencey because then I'll lose you. Okay, but I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>explain it without all the science. But our genetics are different,

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<v Speaker 2>and we have this gene for laughter and for humor.

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<v Speaker 2>So when we are in environments where we're not able

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<v Speaker 2>to laugh and have collective humor, it disturbs our neurological regulation.

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<v Speaker 3>There's parts of the.

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<v Speaker 2>Brain that are designed for us to laugh collectively. Every

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<v Speaker 2>single thing that you mentioned that you said, well, we

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<v Speaker 2>also you were quoting someone and you said, well, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we had these barrel laughs. But then we also bounced

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<v Speaker 2>babies on the knee, and we had interconnected relationships and

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<v Speaker 2>we got together and all of those things, all of

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<v Speaker 2>those things, as human beings.

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<v Speaker 3>Were wired for that.

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<v Speaker 2>So when we have interconnectedness and we have relationships, it

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<v Speaker 2>allows our brain to release the feel goods into our system. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>the dopamine, the serotonin, the oxytocin, the things that make

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<v Speaker 2>us feel good, make us feel joy, pleasure, safety, And

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<v Speaker 2>so when we don't have an opportunity for those things,

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<v Speaker 2>when that is stripped of us, right, this is another

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<v Speaker 2>part of our culture. Right, culture and neurobiology go hand

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<v Speaker 2>in hand. In fact, we have studies. Now you know

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<v Speaker 2>a science known as cultural neurobiology, because we're un understanding

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<v Speaker 2>that culture and neurobiology go together. If we are people

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<v Speaker 2>from a collectivist culture and we're environment and environments where

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<v Speaker 2>we don't dance collectively, where we don't sing collectively, where

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<v Speaker 2>we don't have an opportunity to laugh, it's going to

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<v Speaker 2>disturb our neurobiology. So it doesn't surprise me, right, that

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<v Speaker 2>we weren't allowed to laugh on the plantation. More does

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<v Speaker 2>it surprise me that we were always trying to get

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<v Speaker 2>together to laugh, because the brain is always seeking regulation

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<v Speaker 2>working on the plantation, right, we're neurologically disregulated because we're

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<v Speaker 2>always in fear. And those moments of laughter, those moments

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<v Speaker 2>of connectedness, those moments of babies on our lap, allows

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<v Speaker 2>us to activate the pleasure center of our brain, which

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<v Speaker 2>then allows us to have the dopamine release where we

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<v Speaker 2>can feel joy and pleasure and safety. So it's just

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<v Speaker 2>it's you know, that story is really in alignment with

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<v Speaker 2>what I'm talking about. What you mean, these are ways

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<v Speaker 2>that we can heal ourselves. You see, we're looking our

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<v Speaker 2>communities in trouble, right, Our communities need healing, and we

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<v Speaker 2>think that we're going to get that healing from Western medicine.

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<v Speaker 2>We think we're going to get that healing from outside

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<v Speaker 2>providers and outside people. But we have the capacity to

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<v Speaker 2>become self healing communities. We have the capacity. We're wired,

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<v Speaker 2>we have the inate ability to heal ourselves. We just

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<v Speaker 2>have to be reminded because our ancestors knew how to

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<v Speaker 2>manage adversity, but through colonization, we've been stripped of our

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<v Speaker 2>cultural identity and we no longer know how to manage adversity.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I see what you mean about her, she's

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<v Speaker 1>uh something special especially, Yeah, I think that's that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>a bit of an understatement really, So let's do this, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember you said that you didn't want to get

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<v Speaker 1>to sciencey, but while we have or listeners here, I

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<v Speaker 1>do want to at least touch on a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of the science here. Because it's one thing to say

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<v Speaker 1>that these are some good ideas, or these are some

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<v Speaker 1>culturally relevant practices, or these are things that this group

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<v Speaker 1>of people likes to do, and then Jewish people like

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<v Speaker 1>to do this, and tel Aviv and you know, on

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<v Speaker 1>and on and on. But if there's a scientific basis

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<v Speaker 1>for it, science is a language that tends to transcend

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of prejudices. So let's take a moment and

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<v Speaker 1>discuss for folks that don't know, what is epigenetics.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So epigenetics is the science that deals with how

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<v Speaker 2>our genetics has to adapt to our environment. So we

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<v Speaker 2>have genes, right that we inherit from our family, from

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<v Speaker 2>our parents. That stays solid, right, that's static. We have

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<v Speaker 2>that genetic information no matter what. But and that lives

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<v Speaker 2>in the genome of the DNA. We then have something

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<v Speaker 2>that's on the outside of the genome, which is the epigenome,

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<v Speaker 2>and that contains chemical markers, and those chemical markers determine how, when,

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<v Speaker 2>and if that genetic information gets expressed. Okay, so if

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<v Speaker 2>we have so let's just do an example. If we

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<v Speaker 2>have an ancestor that was on the continent during the

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<v Speaker 2>slave trade. Right, there's an ancestor walking around doing their

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<v Speaker 2>day to day work. They know that there's someone that

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<v Speaker 2>is stealing and enslaving Africans, so they're fearful. Right, somebody

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<v Speaker 2>might get me. I don't know if it's going to

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<v Speaker 2>be somebody from another tribe. I don't know if it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be somebody, you know, a colonizer, but somebody.

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<v Speaker 3>Might get me. So they're moving around in fear.

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<v Speaker 2>They become hypervigilant because we must become hypervigilant in order

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<v Speaker 2>to right. So suddenly we can see farther than we

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<v Speaker 2>used to be able to see because we have to

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<v Speaker 2>train ourselves. Our body is going to adjust to this

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<v Speaker 2>for survival. We can see farther. Our sense of smell, right,

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<v Speaker 2>we see these silly movies where you know, like either

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<v Speaker 2>a Native American person or an African person, I smell bear, right,

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<v Speaker 2>these things are true. Right, our smell becomes discerning because

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<v Speaker 2>I need to know if I'm in the bush, I

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<v Speaker 2>need to know is that was there a human being

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<v Speaker 2>just here?

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<v Speaker 3>Was that? You know? Did they come from another tribe?

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<v Speaker 3>Are they European? Is it a bear? You know, who's

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<v Speaker 3>in the woods?

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<v Speaker 2>And so our DNA adapts to whatever environment we're in.

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<v Speaker 2>When that adaptation happens, it can be passed. The adaptation

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<v Speaker 2>of let's say, hypervigilance can be passed one generation to

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<v Speaker 2>the next for potentially fourteen generations. We can look at

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<v Speaker 2>the cherry blossom study to have more information about this.

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<v Speaker 2>So during in the cherry blossoms study, what they did

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<v Speaker 2>is they took a bunch of rats and they exposed

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<v Speaker 2>rats to the smell of cherry blossoms. At the time

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<v Speaker 2>that they were exposing those rats, they were giving the

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<v Speaker 2>rats a shock at the same time, So they were

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<v Speaker 2>experiencing pain and smelling cherry blossoms at the same time.

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<v Speaker 2>Fourteen yes, similar, yes, fourteen generations later, those rats who

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<v Speaker 2>have no experience of being shocked when they smell cherry blossom,

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<v Speaker 2>they will have the same amount of stress hormones in

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<v Speaker 2>their system the cortisol nor adrenaline adrenaline as the group

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<v Speaker 2>of rats that initially smelled the cherry blossoms while they

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<v Speaker 2>were getting shocked. So that's why the scientists are starting

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<v Speaker 2>to say, wait a minute, there's a connection here, and

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<v Speaker 2>this can be passed fourteen generations down the road. But

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<v Speaker 2>I have to also say, because I am not a

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<v Speaker 2>doom and gloom, I'm not everything as bad. This is

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<v Speaker 2>wonderful information. This is fantastic to know write as traumatic

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<v Speaker 2>as it is for us that potentially we have all

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<v Speaker 2>this trauma, and trauma's trauma is cumulative, so we have

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<v Speaker 2>the potential of all this accumulated trauma.

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<v Speaker 3>But at the same time we have the potential.

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<v Speaker 2>To pass love and positive experiences and benevolence, all those things.

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<v Speaker 3>Fourteen generations forward. This is healing our communities.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that. I want to man, I wish my

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<v Speaker 1>dad was alive still. He would like to hear you

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<v Speaker 1>say that that was a very special thing. You for

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<v Speaker 1>saying that that was very good.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you're welcome.

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<v Speaker 1>To hear that. Okay, fourteen generations. Yes, I believe Leanna

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<v Speaker 1>that once upon a time we either read or had

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<v Speaker 1>a discussion about the Willie Lynch Letters. That's how I'm familiar.

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<v Speaker 1>A long time ago.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a long time ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, all right, are you are you're familiar with the

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<v Speaker 1>little Lynch Letter. Okay, so we've talked about the Willie

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<v Speaker 1>Lynch Letter on this show before, but if you missed

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<v Speaker 1>that episode, I have to give you a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of background information. So there was a letter that was

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<v Speaker 1>reported to have been written by a slaver in the

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<v Speaker 1>Americas who really taught or really established a framework for

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<v Speaker 1>breaking a slave in the way that you would break

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<v Speaker 1>a horse. You would break them from their natural state,

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<v Speaker 1>which is the state of human and you would you

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<v Speaker 1>would cause them to devolve into a subservient lesser state

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<v Speaker 1>of humanity. It was a psychological undertaking that required for

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<v Speaker 1>you to take the entire family. And I have to

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<v Speaker 1>say this because as I need to retain my journalistic

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<v Speaker 1>INCREDI credibility here that whether or not the the the

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<v Speaker 1>letter is a truthful accounting of or or that Willy

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<v Speaker 1>Lynch was was an actual individual who wrote this. Whether

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<v Speaker 1>or not that is true has been up for debate

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<v Speaker 1>for some time, but the Library of Congress has chronicled

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<v Speaker 1>the Willie Lynch Letter nonetheless, and so even if it

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<v Speaker 1>is a work of fiction, it gives insight into actual

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<v Speaker 1>practices that took place during slavery. Now, if you've never

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<v Speaker 1>heard of the Willi Lynch Letter for black people, in

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<v Speaker 1>particular black people in the world of academia, it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>a letter that we use. And for those that listen

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<v Speaker 1>to hip hop like me, you might hear it come

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<v Speaker 1>up in like a talib verse or you know, most

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<v Speaker 1>step those type of people. But read it. It's called

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<v Speaker 1>how to Make a Slave? Okay. The reason I'm referencing

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<v Speaker 1>this right now and giving you such a background on

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<v Speaker 1>it is because a it is a subject of conversations,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, for those of us who are black and

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<v Speaker 1>are trying to combat things that have been levied, leveled,

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<v Speaker 1>sorry against our community initiatives and so forth, the disenfranchisement

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<v Speaker 1>and kind of the psychological state of our people. And

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<v Speaker 1>so this has kind of been I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>call it a guidepost, but sort of a reference point.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll call it that now. In this letter, toward the end.

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<v Speaker 1>Funnily enough, it uses the word self refueling, which is

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<v Speaker 1>part of why that word is part of why the

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<v Speaker 1>letter is debated because the word refueling wasn't used popularly

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<v Speaker 1>way back when the letter was supposed to have been written.

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<v Speaker 1>But self refueling. I want you to keep that word

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<v Speaker 1>in mind. In the letter, it says, if you implement

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<v Speaker 1>these things the way this letter instructs, if you take

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<v Speaker 1>the black man away from his woman with the children present,

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<v Speaker 1>and you tie them to four horses, and you send

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<v Speaker 1>the four horses in four directions and tear his body apart.

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<v Speaker 1>And you take another black man and you tarn, feather

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<v Speaker 1>him and beat him to the point of death. Do

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<v Speaker 1>this in front of the black woman, and she will

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<v Speaker 1>raise her children in reverse roles. You need to read it.

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<v Speaker 1>But this is the quick and dirty version of it.

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<v Speaker 1>If she raises her children in reverse roles, she will

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<v Speaker 1>be subservient, but she will be the one that negotiates

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<v Speaker 1>with you. Her daughter will be subservient and he will

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<v Speaker 1>negotiate with you. Her son will be paralyzed in fear

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<v Speaker 1>and will eat out of the palm of your hand.

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<v Speaker 1>More or less, this is kind of what is said,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is where you end up getting the black

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<v Speaker 1>Mama trope. Black you ain't going to come over here

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<v Speaker 1>with all that, you know, that sort of attitude, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know what else, angry black woman, that sort of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, these things are kind of built off of

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<v Speaker 1>this psychology that's in this letter. The thing is back

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<v Speaker 1>to what I'm saying. It says in the letter. If

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<v Speaker 1>these steps are implemented correctly on your plantation, the slaves

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<v Speaker 1>will exist in a perpetual state of servitude, a self

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<v Speaker 1>refueling cycle that will last up to three hundred years

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<v Speaker 1>is it three hundred? Yeah? Okay, three hundred years, or

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<v Speaker 1>until something resets the natural state of thinking for these people.

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<v Speaker 1>So you have to break the language, You have to

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<v Speaker 1>break everything familiar. Teach them a new peculiar language, a

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<v Speaker 1>new peculiar religion. These are words actually from the document.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't believe I'm remembering so much. Maybe I am smart,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but well maybe I have a good

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<v Speaker 1>memory all of a sudden. But anyway, so you're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about fourteen generations, and that falls right in line with

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<v Speaker 1>what I believe to be true of the Willie Lynch letter.

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<v Speaker 1>It sounds like you've already made this connection before I have.

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<v Speaker 2>And the thing about the wally you know, well, no,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, it's part of what I lecture in my course. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>you know we talk about yes, because we see so

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<v Speaker 2>much of those things still in our communities, in our

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<v Speaker 2>black community, sure, right, And so we're talking about a

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<v Speaker 2>few things there, right, we're talking about what's happening neurobiologically.

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<v Speaker 2>You're living in fear all the time. You're constantly in fear,

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<v Speaker 2>you're seeing violence, you're you know, constantly witnessing violence.

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<v Speaker 3>You're always in fear. It changes your neurobiology.

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<v Speaker 2>If we're always in fight or flight response, right, fight

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<v Speaker 2>or flight. We know what fight or flight is because

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<v Speaker 2>everybody's always talking about it, right, But we're wired for that.

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<v Speaker 2>If we're walking along in the world and we see

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<v Speaker 2>a bear, we're wired so that either we fight the bear,

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<v Speaker 2>we run like we've never run before in our lives,

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<v Speaker 2>or we drop on the ground and play dead before

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<v Speaker 2>we can even think about it, because that's how we're

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<v Speaker 2>wired for survival. If we're fighting the bear, we become very,

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<v Speaker 2>very aggressive, right, because we have cortisol and nor adrenaline

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<v Speaker 2>and adrenaline and all of these a whole cocktail of

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<v Speaker 2>stress hormones in our system that's going to cause us

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<v Speaker 2>to be aggressive, cause us to be hostile, controlling, agitated, violent,

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<v Speaker 2>because we need to survive if we have generations, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and we'll go before the Willie Lynch letter, Right, We're

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<v Speaker 2>going to go all the way from our ancestor that

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<v Speaker 2>was on the continent waiting to be stolen. Right, So

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<v Speaker 2>we have the fear that's there, we have the trauma

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<v Speaker 2>that's there. We have the trauma of once they get caught,

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<v Speaker 2>the trauma of the dungeons that they waited in chain together,

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<v Speaker 2>defecating and urinating on one another, and then all the

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<v Speaker 2>people that died. Then the trauma of walking down that

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<v Speaker 2>last road before they got onto the boat, and then

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<v Speaker 2>the trauma of some of our ancestors drowning themselves in defiance,

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<v Speaker 2>refusing to get on that boat and watching that happen,

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<v Speaker 2>and then surviving the Middle Passage. Right, all of this

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<v Speaker 2>is cumulated trauma. Then we get to the new Land,

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<v Speaker 2>we're put on the auction blocks. We have the trauma

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<v Speaker 2>of that, and anybody that we might have been related to.

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<v Speaker 2>Then we're going to be separated from our loved ones,

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<v Speaker 2>and we have the trauma of that. And then we

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<v Speaker 2>get to the plantation, and then we have the Willy

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<v Speaker 2>Lynch letter and the behaviors described in the Willy Lynch letters. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>this is trauma accumulated over time from various sources. It

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<v Speaker 2>impacts the neurobiology. So we cannot wonder why if we

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<v Speaker 2>go into our communities and we see big behaviors, we

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<v Speaker 2>see aggression, we don't say it's cultural, it's their messed up.

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<v Speaker 2>Genetics is an and environmental. This is an issue of environment.

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<v Speaker 2>We have been put in an environment where we are

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<v Speaker 2>in constant fear over these generations.

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<v Speaker 3>Then we add in.

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<v Speaker 2>All of our brothers and sisters being shot in the

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<v Speaker 2>back by the police. Then we add in incarceration, We

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<v Speaker 2>add in all of those things.

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<v Speaker 3>So what happens.

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<v Speaker 1>Often, what is it? Man? I was going to say

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<v Speaker 1>it black odes, Jim.

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<v Speaker 2>Crow, Jim Crow, absolutely, Jim Crow, all of those things.

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<v Speaker 2>So when you go into our communities, you're going to

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<v Speaker 2>see people who haven't activated threat response system. They're operating

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<v Speaker 2>in the brain. I'm going to get sciencey, but you're

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<v Speaker 2>going to follow me beautifully and you're going to love it.

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<v Speaker 2>But when we activate that fight or flight response, we

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<v Speaker 2>are activating the brain stem and part of our brain,

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<v Speaker 2>the most primitive part of our brain, the part of

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<v Speaker 2>the brain that's intact when we're already born. That's a

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<v Speaker 2>part of the brain for survival. Limic system is part

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<v Speaker 2>of the right So that's a terrific system for survival.

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<v Speaker 2>It's going to control my heart rate, my blood pressure,

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<v Speaker 2>my respiratory rate, all of those things. I need my

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<v Speaker 2>die incephalon to inhibit some of my behaviors. I need

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<v Speaker 2>my cortex in order to learn. The brain is very efficient.

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<v Speaker 2>If the brain says danger, danger, danger, and we need

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<v Speaker 2>to survive, it's going to activate the brain stem. Now

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<v Speaker 2>we're in survival mode. The other parts of the brain

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<v Speaker 2>are going to power off. So I don't have access

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<v Speaker 2>to my dyeing cephalon. I don't have access to my cortex.

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<v Speaker 2>So I can't have empathy, I can't have memory, I

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<v Speaker 2>can't have good self reflection, I can't make good decisions

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<v Speaker 2>because I don't have access to the part of the

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<v Speaker 2>brain that I need in order to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that just means we're going to have to schedule

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<v Speaker 1>a part two for this because I feel like we

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<v Speaker 1>could talk for I wanted to ask you so much,

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<v Speaker 1>what is it your hope for the outcomes? What is it?

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<v Speaker 1>And we'll table those things for next time. In the

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<v Speaker 1>short run, we please do me a favor and share

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<v Speaker 1>any social media websites anything like that with our listeners

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<v Speaker 1>so that they can I healhistoricaltrauma.

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<v Speaker 2>Dot com is my website. If you're interested in learning

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<v Speaker 2>more about epigenetics, check out the cherry blossom study. It's fascinating.

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<v Speaker 2>Check out the Human Genome Project and you'll get to

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<v Speaker 2>more information about.

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<v Speaker 1>That as well. All right, and Leanna, the Arizona Pet Project.

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<v Speaker 3>Log it, oh yeah, my nonprofit Arizona Pet Project.

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<v Speaker 1>You can find us at Arizona Azypetproject dot org.

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<v Speaker 3>On social media is the Arizona Pet Project.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh right. If you're in the pets, she's the person

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<v Speaker 1>you want to talk too, all right, okay, and you

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<v Speaker 1>Civic Cipher. I'm ramses John. Until next week, y'all. Peace,