WEBVTT - Return of Cody/AEW Dynamite/RAW on SCI FI 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:02.840 Hey, this is Brian Alvarez and this is today's edition 0:00:02.840 --> 0:00:09.920 of the Wrestling Observer Daily podcast on the eight Side Network. Ready, Ready, 0:00:10.600 --> 0:00:15.480 let's get it all. How's it going, everybody? Brian Alvarez 0:00:15.640 --> 0:00:18.560 here on or Wrestling over Live. We are here every 0:00:18.600 --> 0:00:22.200 day Monday through Friday, New Pacific three Eastern, Sunday three Pacific, 0:00:22.239 --> 0:00:27.880 sixth Eastern. It's Wednesday here on the show. And you 0:00:27.920 --> 0:00:30.960 know what that means. I always say that, but man, 0:00:31.960 --> 0:00:34.320 every day I don't even know what's going on, and 0:00:34.400 --> 0:00:39.400 today is no exception. Well, we got lots. Last night 0:00:39.479 --> 0:00:42.400 was n x T two point oh. Tonight is a 0:00:42.520 --> 0:00:47.000 e W Dynamite, the return of John Moxley and the 0:00:47.040 --> 0:00:51.200 return of Cody as well. And of course we've got 0:00:51.360 --> 0:00:54.920 the line up for tonight's show. We'll tell you all 0:00:54.960 --> 0:01:00.720 the matches there. We got some notes on raw airing 0:01:00.760 --> 0:01:05.000 on Sci Fi and February as a result of the Olympics. 0:01:05.959 --> 0:01:08.039 What were those stand up for? W W A blokes, 0:01:08.040 --> 0:01:09.840 We're gonna say when rod is a horrible number on 0:01:09.920 --> 0:01:11.920 Sci Fi, I'm sure they will blame it on the 0:01:11.959 --> 0:01:15.280 booking and claim that the ship is sinking. That's what 0:01:15.319 --> 0:01:17.559 they'll do, right, They won't. They won't know that designed 0:01:17.560 --> 0:01:20.880 a different network and thus probably isn't gonna do as well. 0:01:22.120 --> 0:01:27.840 Surely that won't happen, and the Rampage ratings SmackDown as well. 0:01:28.480 --> 0:01:32.720 Scotty too, Hattie talking about his time and at n 0:01:32.920 --> 0:01:36.760 x T and how Vince McMahon wanted the trainers to 0:01:36.920 --> 0:01:41.720 look younger because of course he did. And yes, everybody, 0:01:41.920 --> 0:01:52.080 we're gonna talk about Gunther Stark anyway, that's gonna come 0:01:52.120 --> 0:01:54.160 up after the break. You want Texas here today, you 0:01:54.200 --> 0:01:57.040 want to contact us, well, it's easy. Four to five 0:01:57.160 --> 0:01:59.840 seven eight zero seven six is the phone number. Four 0:01:59.840 --> 0:02:03.680 two five seven five six six. Brian at Wrestling Observer 0:02:04.000 --> 0:02:08.480 dot com adds Brian Alvarez on Twitter. Believe we'll have 0:02:08.560 --> 0:02:11.320 a special guest later on in the show today, but 0:02:11.400 --> 0:02:13.280 it won't be Cody Rhodes. I gotta figure that out 0:02:13.320 --> 0:02:17.640 as well, because I had a lot of stuff going on. Man, 0:02:17.800 --> 0:02:40.080 every day. Back I'm on with more Deserver Live sometimes 0:02:40.240 --> 0:02:48.560 love back in the show. Brian Albert is here Wrestling 0:02:48.600 --> 0:02:57.280 Observer Alive. Mike Simper bv also of Wrestling Observer dot Com. 0:02:57.320 --> 0:03:01.840 I want to mention, by the way that before I 0:03:01.840 --> 0:03:05.960 get into gun thirst Stark. I would like to mention 0:03:06.080 --> 0:03:08.240 that we had an article on the front page about 0:03:08.240 --> 0:03:11.359 Cody and UH. At the end of the article it 0:03:11.440 --> 0:03:13.160 said that Cody was going to be the guest on 0:03:13.200 --> 0:03:18.280 Wrestling Observer Radio with Dave Milton and Bryan Alvarez today. 0:03:19.360 --> 0:03:22.600 I read it, I was like, he is, yeah, and 0:03:22.600 --> 0:03:26.040 then I texted Dave and they said, I don't know 0:03:26.080 --> 0:03:27.799 that's all about either. I thought he was gonna be 0:03:27.840 --> 0:03:30.160 at Observer Live. I was gonna text you to find out. 0:03:30.560 --> 0:03:33.240 And so anyway, neither Dave or I have any knowledge 0:03:33.240 --> 0:03:37.320 of this whatsoever. So I think I think that that 0:03:37.560 --> 0:03:41.440 at some point somewhere on a show, someone said something 0:03:41.480 --> 0:03:46.760 that was misinterpreted, but Cody Cody is not you know 0:03:46.760 --> 0:03:50.680 what I think it was now they think about it. 0:03:51.400 --> 0:03:54.840 I think that at some point when we were talking 0:03:54.840 --> 0:04:03.080 about the UH Cody Rhodes story, UM, Dave said He's 0:04:03.080 --> 0:04:06.200 gonna be on the show Wednesday. I think that was 0:04:06.240 --> 0:04:08.720 misinterpreted as he was gonna be on this show or 0:04:08.760 --> 0:04:12.720 Observer Radio. The show that we were referencing was a 0:04:12.920 --> 0:04:17.960 E W Dynamite. So anyway, there is UH. It is 0:04:18.040 --> 0:04:21.000 unlikely that Cody is going to be on the show today. 0:04:21.520 --> 0:04:24.040 Now that might disappoint some people for this show, but 0:04:24.320 --> 0:04:26.960 Adam Abdala is gonna be on to talk about the 0:04:27.000 --> 0:04:29.320 Orange Crushed books that he puts out as well as 0:04:29.360 --> 0:04:32.760 g c W at the Hammerstein and the Indie Wrestling 0:04:32.760 --> 0:04:35.000 Hall of Fame, so we have that coming up later on. 0:04:35.120 --> 0:04:40.080 So right, all right, well, I suppose I should talk 0:04:40.080 --> 0:04:44.560 about gun Thirst Stark, right, is that what I should do? 0:04:45.600 --> 0:04:49.920 What's funny is um, I'll just read the article from 0:04:49.920 --> 0:04:51.720 the front page of Wrestling Observer dot com and then 0:04:51.960 --> 0:04:53.760 I'll get going here and a lot of people in 0:04:53.760 --> 0:04:56.440 the check going, oh, how long is this Brian gonna 0:04:56.560 --> 0:04:58.359 rant for? I don't know what I'm gonna do. I 0:04:58.360 --> 0:05:00.960 never know what I'm gonna do. Guys, there's no plan. 0:05:01.120 --> 0:05:02.520 I don't know if you figured that out. And on 0:05:02.560 --> 0:05:05.359 the show. So this from Wrestling Observed dot com. The 0:05:05.400 --> 0:05:07.600 end of n x T saw Walter announcing a new 0:05:07.680 --> 0:05:12.919 name for himself. Walter announced himself as Gunther after defeating 0:05:13.000 --> 0:05:15.679 Roderick Strong on tonight's n x T with an air raid, 0:05:15.800 --> 0:05:20.520 crash and a power bomb. After Walter announced the name change, 0:05:20.880 --> 0:05:24.320 Fabian Eichner and Marcel Bartel ran in and attacked strong 0:05:24.760 --> 0:05:27.760 the Creed brothers and ran in and the team's brawl 0:05:27.880 --> 0:05:31.960 to end the show. On January thirteen, at w W 0:05:32.200 --> 0:05:35.840 filed a trademark with the United States Patent and Trademark 0:05:35.880 --> 0:05:40.440 Office for the name Gunther Stark. And is also the 0:05:40.520 --> 0:05:45.080 name of a Nazi military commander during World War Two 0:05:45.560 --> 0:05:48.680 who died after his vessel sunk in the English Channel 0:05:48.720 --> 0:05:52.320 in nineteen forty four. The last name was not mentioned 0:05:52.400 --> 0:05:55.479 on tonight's show. I like to tell these stories the 0:05:55.480 --> 0:05:59.080 way that the stories unfolded to me, you know what 0:05:59.080 --> 0:06:03.520 I'm saying. So yesterday I got a random text. Because 0:06:03.520 --> 0:06:05.120 I don't watch these shows live because I'm on the 0:06:05.120 --> 0:06:08.159 West Coast, I have to watch him on delay. And 0:06:09.120 --> 0:06:11.479 somebody texted me out of the blue and said, I 0:06:11.560 --> 0:06:14.679 don't want to spoil you, but there's a new gimmick 0:06:15.279 --> 0:06:19.880 and someone has a new name. Good luck. I thought, 0:06:21.560 --> 0:06:25.760 what's going on here? So, you know, I don't mind spoilers, 0:06:26.240 --> 0:06:28.039 and shows always get spoiled for me. So then they 0:06:28.080 --> 0:06:33.600 started looking around, and everywhere I look on our board, 0:06:34.560 --> 0:06:40.240 which are etcetera, I'm bombarded with the fact that w 0:06:40.240 --> 0:06:45.440 w E has renamed Vaulter. They have given him the 0:06:45.520 --> 0:06:55.720 name of a Nazi. Now I mean listen, I mean listen. 0:06:55.800 --> 0:06:59.360 There were a lot of Nazis, okay, you know, lots 0:06:59.400 --> 0:07:02.440 of them, and they had a lot of names, obviously, 0:07:03.320 --> 0:07:06.800 but this particular Nazi was was famous enough that like, 0:07:07.400 --> 0:07:10.080 you google him and he comes right up. He's not 0:07:10.160 --> 0:07:16.040 some random Nazi. So I was like, what, wait a second. 0:07:17.040 --> 0:07:19.640 I hate to laugh about this, but like this is 0:07:19.640 --> 0:07:22.160 a new level. I mean it's not every day that 0:07:22.280 --> 0:07:25.920 you know, w W E renames Vaulter, they name him 0:07:25.960 --> 0:07:29.040 after a Nazi. Not every day that that happens that 0:07:29.240 --> 0:07:31.840 I have to admit as a new one. So I'm 0:07:31.880 --> 0:07:35.360 like what And you know, so I started watching the show, 0:07:36.480 --> 0:07:40.840 and the show starts and they announced tonight Roderick Strong 0:07:40.880 --> 0:07:47.840 will face Vaulter. Like okay, So then the announcer started 0:07:47.840 --> 0:07:53.160 talking about it's Roderick Strong versus Vaulter tonight. So I'm 0:07:53.160 --> 0:07:56.920 watching the whole show, no mention of the name Gunther 0:07:57.440 --> 0:08:00.600 Stark and uh. And then fine, it's time for the 0:08:00.600 --> 0:08:06.080 main event, and you know, the ring announcer says, coming 0:08:06.120 --> 0:08:11.720 to the ring, Vaulter. It comes down to the ring, 0:08:12.680 --> 0:08:16.120 and uh, Like I'm watching this whole show and I'm like, okay, 0:08:16.160 --> 0:08:19.080 this is like something that you know, I imagined, He's 0:08:19.120 --> 0:08:21.640 actually still still Vaulter. I don't know what everyone's all 0:08:21.720 --> 0:08:24.160 angry about. And then of course at the end of 0:08:24.200 --> 0:08:26.880 the show, he announces she's about to announce him the 0:08:26.880 --> 0:08:30.320 winner because in fact, he beat Roderick Strong, and he announces, no, 0:08:30.640 --> 0:08:34.760 the winner of this matches Gunther and then him an imperium, 0:08:34.800 --> 0:08:36.640 you know, beat down Roderick Strong, and I was like, 0:08:36.760 --> 0:08:40.679 my god, he's actually he's he's gun the stark they 0:08:40.720 --> 0:08:45.439 have they have trademarked the name of a Nazi for Rodick, 0:08:45.520 --> 0:08:49.280 for for for Vaulter. So then, you know, I'm just thinking, 0:08:49.480 --> 0:08:53.640 what in God's name? And then I started getting messages 0:08:54.200 --> 0:08:57.560 from from a number of people and uh, this is 0:08:57.600 --> 0:09:00.200 this this story is is baffling to me because is 0:09:00.600 --> 0:09:03.160 there this is literally a I can't even believe I'm 0:09:03.160 --> 0:09:07.520 saying this, but a polarizing topic. Okay, because there's the 0:09:07.559 --> 0:09:12.040 one side that is that is absolutely appalled, the w 0:09:12.040 --> 0:09:16.920 w E has trademarked the name of a Nazi for Vaulter. 0:09:17.920 --> 0:09:21.080 And then and this was not one person, I might add, 0:09:21.320 --> 0:09:24.400 I had I had several people, a number of people 0:09:24.440 --> 0:09:27.040 in fact, that don't see this as a big deal 0:09:27.080 --> 0:09:29.600 at all. Okay, and you're probably wondering, well, how could 0:09:29.600 --> 0:09:33.240 they not see this as a big deal. Well, the 0:09:33.280 --> 0:09:38.480 first argument was, well, you know the talent, he gets 0:09:38.480 --> 0:09:42.640 to pick their name, so you know, Vaulter, and we 0:09:42.679 --> 0:09:44.760 don't know this for sure, but I mean, you know, 0:09:44.800 --> 0:09:48.160 in in most cases what happens is they say, okay, 0:09:48.160 --> 0:09:50.560 you can no longer be Vaulter. Come up with like 0:09:50.679 --> 0:09:52.960 ten names, and then we'll pick one of them. So 0:09:53.240 --> 0:09:55.920 Vulter writes down ten names and they go, oh, you know, 0:09:56.000 --> 0:09:58.520 I really like this gunther Stark. That sounds like a 0:09:58.600 --> 0:10:01.280 cool name. And so then you know, he ends up 0:10:01.320 --> 0:10:04.520 being gunther Stark. So the first argument was, well, everyone's 0:10:04.559 --> 0:10:07.000 mad at Vince and w w E, but you know, 0:10:07.040 --> 0:10:10.520 there's a pretty good chance that Voulter himself is the 0:10:10.520 --> 0:10:13.839 one who came up with the name gunther Stark. Okay, 0:10:13.880 --> 0:10:16.960 now no one said one way or the other, but 0:10:17.320 --> 0:10:19.559 that was that was the first deal. Maybe this is 0:10:19.600 --> 0:10:24.000 all Walter's idea, all right. So then the other argument was, well, 0:10:24.040 --> 0:10:26.800 you know they never called him gunther Stark. They only 0:10:26.880 --> 0:10:33.839 called him Gunther like well, they trademarked the whole name. 0:10:35.840 --> 0:10:39.679 So the thing that baffles me is, okay, all right, 0:10:40.920 --> 0:10:44.280 let's say that this was not a w w E idea. 0:10:44.360 --> 0:10:46.920 Let's say that this was not Vince or whoever saying, Hey, 0:10:46.960 --> 0:10:49.840 I got an idea, let's name him after a famous Nazi. 0:10:50.760 --> 0:10:56.200 You know it was his idea. If if you, the listener, 0:10:57.640 --> 0:11:02.440 owned w w E and somebody came up with a 0:11:02.480 --> 0:11:06.640 list and you narrowed it down to Gunther Stark, Okay, 0:11:07.040 --> 0:11:10.839 there's nobody in this billion dollar company who's tasked with 0:11:11.520 --> 0:11:17.000 typing a name into Google. Okay, right, Like you don't 0:11:17.040 --> 0:11:20.679 want you don't want some some woman to uh debut 0:11:21.080 --> 0:11:24.200 on the main roster is Jenna Jamison? Right, that's a 0:11:24.240 --> 0:11:27.320 famous female porn star. You don't want your your your 0:11:27.360 --> 0:11:29.840 superstars named after porn stars. Right. You don't want some 0:11:29.960 --> 0:11:32.480 kids saying, oh man, I like that Jennet Jamison. Let 0:11:32.480 --> 0:11:33.920 me Google and all of a sudden, you know what 0:11:34.040 --> 0:11:37.960 comes up? That doesn't happen? Right? You would think that 0:11:38.000 --> 0:11:40.360 they would want to make sure that whatever name somebody 0:11:40.400 --> 0:11:43.920 came up with was not like an infamous name. I 0:11:43.960 --> 0:11:45.920 would go as far as to say that Gunther Stark 0:11:45.920 --> 0:11:48.400 would be an infamous name. So the first question is 0:11:48.679 --> 0:11:53.160 you're telling me that nobody bothered to google the name 0:11:53.240 --> 0:11:56.679 Gunther Stark. Okay, well, then maybe you know, and we'll 0:11:56.679 --> 0:11:59.040 talk about why it's possible no one bothered to google 0:11:59.080 --> 0:12:02.680 this name. So in you know, you trademark that, you 0:12:02.720 --> 0:12:05.280 go all the way to trademarking the name of this Nazi, 0:12:05.800 --> 0:12:08.040 and then of course word gets out that you trademark 0:12:08.120 --> 0:12:10.840 the name of a Nazi. So you're telling me that 0:12:10.960 --> 0:12:14.640 to avoid controversy, your plan is not to save Walter. 0:12:14.760 --> 0:12:17.240 We need a different name. But it said ago, Well 0:12:17.320 --> 0:12:23.280 we'll just call him Gunther. There's more I'll get you 0:12:23.360 --> 0:12:38.760 after the break Observer Live. I can't even believe here. 0:12:39.720 --> 0:12:42.200 I'm still going here. Michael Joy is here at some 0:12:42.280 --> 0:12:44.559 point here. But I look on the chat here and 0:12:44.559 --> 0:12:48.880 I gotta going, Well, he's not a famous Nazi. Bro Listen, 0:12:49.040 --> 0:12:52.760 he's not Adolph Hitler. Okay, but how many Nazis do 0:12:52.760 --> 0:12:58.520 you think there were? Okay, plenty of them. If you 0:12:58.559 --> 0:13:01.480 google her name, nothing's gonna come up. You google gunt 0:13:01.640 --> 0:13:04.520 Stark's name and it comes up immediately. Of course, now 0:13:04.640 --> 0:13:06.520 you have to search back a few pages because now 0:13:06.520 --> 0:13:09.160 when you google gun Their Stark it's all w w 0:13:09.240 --> 0:13:13.240 E in stories about w w E. But anyway, the 0:13:13.360 --> 0:13:18.079 point of this is, again, if it were your company 0:13:18.160 --> 0:13:19.760 and someone came up to you and they wanted to 0:13:19.760 --> 0:13:23.880 be named Gunther Stark, A, no one googles it, and 0:13:23.960 --> 0:13:26.960 b when you start to get blowback from fans, you 0:13:26.960 --> 0:13:28.679 don't just give him a totally different name, but you 0:13:28.800 --> 0:13:32.800 keep the Gunther. Now it's okay, that's the idea here. 0:13:34.679 --> 0:13:36.520 Then people arguing that, I'm like, well, what if what 0:13:36.559 --> 0:13:38.079 if you'd come up to you and said I want 0:13:38.080 --> 0:13:42.000 to use the name Adolph Hitler, Joseph Goebbels, Are you 0:13:42.040 --> 0:13:47.600 okay with that one? Benito Mussolini because his favorite baseball 0:13:47.600 --> 0:13:51.600 player was Benito Santia. No, they get no, get nothing 0:13:51.679 --> 0:13:54.959 on this. No idiot spittake. Somebody banned spittake. He goes, 0:13:55.000 --> 0:13:58.079 you know, Gunther is a common German name, right, Well, yes, 0:13:58.800 --> 0:14:03.120 but they didn't trade mark Gunther. I am the trademark 0:14:03.360 --> 0:14:07.080 Gunther Stark. And the chances are, since they trademarked the 0:14:07.080 --> 0:14:10.640 whole name that if they hadn't gotten blowback, he would 0:14:10.640 --> 0:14:14.400 have been gun Thur Stark. But they got blowback, and 0:14:14.440 --> 0:14:18.199 so they dropped the Stark part so do you. That 0:14:18.240 --> 0:14:21.560 makes it okay. So if if if Walter came up 0:14:21.560 --> 0:14:22.920 to and he goes, hey, you know what, I got 0:14:22.960 --> 0:14:27.560 a great name for a character, Adolf Hitler. All right, 0:14:27.640 --> 0:14:31.880 let's trademark Adolf Hitler for entertainment purposes. Because when you 0:14:31.920 --> 0:14:34.440 do a trademark, that's what it's for. So you trademark 0:14:34.560 --> 0:14:38.600 Aidolf Hitler and then fans go, what you trademark the 0:14:38.680 --> 0:14:43.240 name Adolf Hitler for entertainment purposes And they're like, oh, 0:14:43.320 --> 0:14:46.200 I'm embarrassed now as a company, Well we'll just call 0:14:46.280 --> 0:14:53.640 him Aidolf. Now that's okay. M interesting. They get no 0:14:53.680 --> 0:14:56.480 benefit of the doubt. I don't care if Walter wanted 0:14:56.520 --> 0:14:58.960 to call himself that you still have to go through. 0:14:59.280 --> 0:15:01.640 If I say something on air, I'm gonna be named 0:15:01.640 --> 0:15:04.120 as part of the lawsuit. But if somebody wants to sue, 0:15:04.160 --> 0:15:07.800 they're coming after Brian, okay, because that's where the buck stops. 0:15:07.880 --> 0:15:10.560 So that's how that works, and it's they were the 0:15:10.560 --> 0:15:13.280 ones responsible for this, and they're the ones that actually 0:15:13.280 --> 0:15:16.600 went ahead and trademarked the whole name. And if it 0:15:16.680 --> 0:15:19.680 wasn't people yesterday, a couple of people kind of cringed 0:15:19.760 --> 0:15:21.720 when I said, you know a lot of the old 0:15:21.720 --> 0:15:24.040 white guys that prop up Martin Luther King and they 0:15:24.080 --> 0:15:26.320 never actually make their way past that, and they look 0:15:26.360 --> 0:15:28.920 at that as this is what we know about culture 0:15:28.920 --> 0:15:31.560 and race, and then everything else be damned like actual 0:15:31.720 --> 0:15:33.600 real issues. And this is how we end up with 0:15:34.000 --> 0:15:38.360 crime time and Mexic cools and Hirohito. Do you remember 0:15:38.360 --> 0:15:42.640 that one, Brian? Do you remember Hirohito were two ace yes, 0:15:42.760 --> 0:15:46.400 Kenzo Suzuki and do you know why they stopped that? 0:15:46.520 --> 0:15:49.040 They got blowback, and do you know how they responded 0:15:49.040 --> 0:15:51.760 to that blowback? Apparently Vince was pissed that he got 0:15:51.800 --> 0:15:56.840 blowback for this wonderful idea of Hirohito as the Kenzo 0:15:56.920 --> 0:16:00.400 Suzuki is his grandson looking for revenge on you know, 0:16:00.560 --> 0:16:03.080 the bombs being dropped on America. He's gonna take this 0:16:03.160 --> 0:16:06.080 out on wrestlers. They get no benefit of the doubt 0:16:06.120 --> 0:16:08.960 because of how they've done everything. This was not an 0:16:09.000 --> 0:16:12.880 oversight or a mistake. Obviously it was. But I'm sorry. 0:16:12.920 --> 0:16:15.360 When you continue to play these games and you continue 0:16:15.360 --> 0:16:18.120 to do the things that you've done, sorry, you get 0:16:18.160 --> 0:16:20.240 no benefit of the doubt for this. And bottom line 0:16:20.320 --> 0:16:23.120 is it's a sloppy shop anyway, because even if everything 0:16:23.400 --> 0:16:25.960 you take it at face value, that this is because 0:16:26.000 --> 0:16:28.400 more than one person has said to me, well, what 0:16:28.480 --> 0:16:31.800 if Gunter really wanted this, that's fine, but somebody's got 0:16:31.800 --> 0:16:34.160 a sign off on all of these things. On top 0:16:34.200 --> 0:16:38.000 of the fact it's a stupid idea. I care if 0:16:38.000 --> 0:16:40.480 he didn't want to be Walter. He's been Walter on 0:16:40.520 --> 0:16:43.640 the Royal Rumble, he was Walter for the entire show. 0:16:44.200 --> 0:16:48.720 Why now, why? Now? You know, I gotta add one 0:16:48.760 --> 0:16:51.160 thing here because somebody made a good point there in 0:16:51.200 --> 0:16:54.600 the h in the chat. And this is also a 0:16:54.640 --> 0:16:56.000 chance to get a plug in if you're in the 0:16:56.040 --> 0:16:58.680 bottle area. We got a yoga studio he've opened up 0:16:58.680 --> 0:17:02.160 in conjunction with thekarate and jiu jitsu school. So if 0:17:02.200 --> 0:17:04.520 you want to do some yoga and bothel free trial 0:17:04.840 --> 0:17:09.639 and go to cedar tree yoga dot com. What does 0:17:09.680 --> 0:17:11.520 that have to do with all of this, I'll tell you. 0:17:12.240 --> 0:17:15.119 So when we uh, when we decided we were gonna 0:17:15.359 --> 0:17:18.520 branch out to do this studio, Uh, the guy that 0:17:18.560 --> 0:17:20.399 owns the school says, well, what do you want to 0:17:20.480 --> 0:17:24.160 use for a name? And so does this sound familiar? 0:17:24.440 --> 0:17:26.760 What do you want to use for a name, and 0:17:26.840 --> 0:17:29.359 so we had to think of some names, and uh 0:17:29.560 --> 0:17:33.400 we we thought. I got an idea about cedar Tree Yoga, 0:17:33.720 --> 0:17:38.240 and the first thing this guy said was, well, we don't. 0:17:38.240 --> 0:17:41.240 We're gonna have to google it, because before you can 0:17:41.320 --> 0:17:43.960 register it as a business name, you have to check 0:17:44.000 --> 0:17:46.520 to see if there's any other Cedar Tree Yoga in 0:17:46.560 --> 0:17:51.360 the state of Washington. So this, by the way, this 0:17:52.280 --> 0:17:54.960 kind of you know, the idea that oh, well, you know, 0:17:55.040 --> 0:17:57.879 someone came up with the name gunser Stark and nobody 0:17:57.920 --> 0:18:01.480 bothered to google it before the trademark did. That's impossible 0:18:01.800 --> 0:18:04.680 because before you go to trademark the name, you need 0:18:04.720 --> 0:18:07.480 a Google to see if there is another gun th 0:18:07.680 --> 0:18:10.639 Stark or whatever name you came up with. So, in fact, 0:18:11.040 --> 0:18:13.760 the idea that oh, we didn't know until after it 0:18:13.840 --> 0:18:17.640 was trademarked, no, you would have had to have googled 0:18:17.760 --> 0:18:20.200 the name before you can go to try to apply 0:18:20.320 --> 0:18:25.920 for a trademark for the name. Oh my, the way 0:18:26.960 --> 0:18:29.840 ties into another nx T story. I got material for 0:18:29.880 --> 0:18:33.600 hours today. So then we had, you know, I had 0:18:33.600 --> 0:18:36.040 the people yesterday going on maybe they didn't know or 0:18:36.200 --> 0:18:38.840 or you know, you do realize that this name company 0:18:38.880 --> 0:18:41.960 that didn't know that Adam Cole's contract expired, and and 0:18:42.240 --> 0:18:45.879 all of these other clerical errors, which stems from a 0:18:46.119 --> 0:18:51.080 situation like two thousand seven when the Rocks contract expired. 0:18:51.240 --> 0:18:56.320 They let the Rocks contract expire and when asked, they 0:18:56.359 --> 0:19:01.480 claimed it was a clerical error. MH. So anyway, they've 0:19:01.480 --> 0:19:04.159 had a lot of clerical errors lately. Meanwhile, that was 0:19:04.200 --> 0:19:07.280 a sour time between the two parties. But the point 0:19:07.359 --> 0:19:10.320 is they have had legitimate clerical errors, like you know, whoever, 0:19:11.160 --> 0:19:13.080 I think it was Kenyan Seamen actually was the guy 0:19:13.080 --> 0:19:15.800 that woke up and realized that, you know, Adam Cole's 0:19:15.840 --> 0:19:19.560 contract was expiring far earlier than they realized. And you know, 0:19:19.680 --> 0:19:21.919 I think you got fired over that or anyway, it 0:19:21.960 --> 0:19:23.800 was a big to do. But there have been many 0:19:23.920 --> 0:19:28.520 legitimate clerical errors in this billion dollar company. So the latest, 0:19:28.560 --> 0:19:30.399 I don't know this is a clerical error or not, 0:19:30.560 --> 0:19:33.000 but you realize On n x T two point oh 0:19:33.080 --> 0:19:36.560 last night, besides the debut of Nazi commander gun their Stark, 0:19:36.880 --> 0:19:42.880 they also announced a women's Dusty Cup. But they have 0:19:42.960 --> 0:19:49.480 no teams. They haven't figured out, they haven't figured out 0:19:49.560 --> 0:19:53.640 who's even gonna be in this tournament. You know who 0:19:53.680 --> 0:19:55.600 returned on the show last night out of the blue, 0:19:56.960 --> 0:20:01.679 Rockel Gonzalez. You do real is that she's on her 0:20:01.720 --> 0:20:04.680 way out and uh they had to bring her back 0:20:05.040 --> 0:20:08.639 because they have no teams for a tournament that they announced. 0:20:09.400 --> 0:20:12.359 So they're trying to figure out and I'm not talking 0:20:12.400 --> 0:20:14.200 about like you know, a long time ago. I'm talking 0:20:14.240 --> 0:20:16.840 about today, who is going to be in this tournament. 0:20:17.320 --> 0:20:20.520 We have announced a tournament, but we have no teams. 0:20:21.240 --> 0:20:24.040 So you know, if you want to argue that maybe 0:20:24.119 --> 0:20:26.000 you know, with this whole gun there Stark thing one 0:20:26.000 --> 0:20:28.200 hand didn't know what the other hand was doing. I mean, 0:20:28.240 --> 0:20:30.560 there is evidence for that because we didn't announce a 0:20:30.600 --> 0:20:38.080 tournament for women with no women. But considering the main 0:20:38.200 --> 0:20:40.640 roster has got one tag team for the Tag Team 0:20:40.680 --> 0:20:44.520 Championship and then nobody else. The person want to know 0:20:44.520 --> 0:20:46.480 who's duty company. We're talking about the n x T 0:20:46.760 --> 0:20:51.360 Women's Dusty Cup. They don't have enough teams. They were 0:20:51.400 --> 0:20:55.560 discussing bringing down Rhea Nikki, who broke up. By the way, 0:20:55.920 --> 0:20:58.480 I'm pretty sure that one's out, but I would put 0:20:58.480 --> 0:21:01.479 nothing past them because they need somehow get you know, 0:21:01.640 --> 0:21:06.920 eight teams, right, eight teams one too, at least eight. Yeah, 0:21:07.000 --> 0:21:09.720 so they need sixteen women. They need eight female take 0:21:09.760 --> 0:21:12.560 teams that they don't have. So that's why you don't 0:21:12.600 --> 0:21:16.440 have brackets, because they don't have any teams for a 0:21:16.480 --> 0:21:20.000 tournament that they already announced on television. Do you think 0:21:20.040 --> 0:21:24.040 Sirey is gonna team with the spirit of her grandmother? Yes, siree. 0:21:24.520 --> 0:21:27.560 A lot of people are mad about sire But Sailor Moon, 0:21:28.800 --> 0:21:31.600 I mean, we haven't seen what her actual entring gimmick was. 0:21:31.640 --> 0:21:34.199 I mean, maybe that's what she actually wears for street clothes. 0:21:34.400 --> 0:21:38.760 We don't know this, But yes, she's back. She explained, 0:21:39.160 --> 0:21:42.120 I could never win, so I left and went home. 0:21:42.600 --> 0:21:45.560 But now I'm now I'm back, she says. Now she'll 0:21:45.600 --> 0:21:48.440 be a winner. And she found some pendant that her 0:21:48.600 --> 0:21:51.760 her strong grandmother once owned, and this is gonna give 0:21:51.760 --> 0:21:56.359 her strength to succeed here in n x T that 0:21:56.480 --> 0:21:59.800 in her school girl outfit, help her succeed with these 0:22:00.040 --> 0:22:02.520 t two year old men that watch this show. Well, yeah, 0:22:02.560 --> 0:22:04.520 I'm sure it will help or succeed with them. I'm 0:22:04.560 --> 0:22:06.600 sure that's right up there, Alley. I'm sure somebody in 0:22:06.680 --> 0:22:10.040 creative is around that age, A couple of them in fact, 0:22:10.800 --> 0:22:12.880 that are around that age coming up with that sort 0:22:12.880 --> 0:22:19.240 of stuff. But yeah, I mean, of all the things, 0:22:19.440 --> 0:22:21.560 I just I don't. I don't. I don't get it. 0:22:21.600 --> 0:22:26.960 I don't why why why Karen Qes deal? And I 0:22:27.040 --> 0:22:33.360 know it's cute, it's cute, and it's was amusing. Once 0:22:33.960 --> 0:22:36.240 I'm already done with it. I'm already done with it. 0:22:36.320 --> 0:22:39.480 I know, well, Orange Cassidy, no, I I have more 0:22:39.560 --> 0:22:41.879 faith in Orange Cassidy the character and all that was 0:22:41.880 --> 0:22:44.400 built up before he was on a w TV. I'm 0:22:44.400 --> 0:22:48.919 looking at this creation and going, okay, you know, I 0:22:49.080 --> 0:22:52.520 just they have nothing but losers on the main roster, 0:22:53.000 --> 0:22:55.480 Guys and women that can't hold onto their money, people 0:22:55.480 --> 0:22:57.359 who don't know how to win, people who don't know 0:22:57.440 --> 0:23:00.800 to have how to have friendships and relationships. I mean, 0:23:01.480 --> 0:23:03.560 they are doing a great job in n XT and 0:23:03.560 --> 0:23:06.800 getting people ready for the type of characters who are 0:23:06.800 --> 0:23:08.920 going to be on the main roster, that's for sure, 0:23:08.960 --> 0:23:11.919 except with a lot more, a lot less experience that 0:23:12.000 --> 0:23:14.840 Creed Brothers, Brooks and Jensen or whatever the hell they're 0:23:14.880 --> 0:23:19.159 called match. It was ugly, you know, it was. It 0:23:19.160 --> 0:23:21.040 could have been a lot worse. But I see, you know, 0:23:21.119 --> 0:23:23.960 four guys in there. They're just basically clubbing and thundering 0:23:24.040 --> 0:23:27.439 with each other, and it's like, God, bless you know, 0:23:27.520 --> 0:23:29.920 seeing those guys on the main roster. You know they 0:23:29.920 --> 0:23:32.000 get called up. Randy weren't gonna want to get thrown 0:23:32.040 --> 0:23:34.800 around by the Casper brothers. I don't know about that. 0:23:35.680 --> 0:23:37.520 I look at I look at what they're developing, and 0:23:37.560 --> 0:23:40.440 I just I cringe. And it's not this talent's fault. 0:23:40.480 --> 0:23:42.639 You can see there's a lot of puppies with big paws. 0:23:43.000 --> 0:23:45.000 It's just unfortunate that they're gonna be locked in a 0:23:45.080 --> 0:23:46.879 box and they're not gonna be able to develop in 0:23:46.880 --> 0:24:14.240 most cases. Back at the moment, everybody Obserer Live look 0:24:14.240 --> 0:24:18.200 in the show. Bran Eva is here Wrestling Observer Live mixuperviv, 0:24:18.480 --> 0:24:22.840 also of Wrestling Observer dot Com. Adam abdalls here on 0:24:22.880 --> 0:24:27.520 the show today talking g c W Orange Crushing much more. 0:24:27.600 --> 0:24:31.360 What's going on? Adam, Hey, guys, thank you for having me. Hey, 0:24:31.400 --> 0:24:34.760 are you gonna do an Orange Crush about gunther Stark? 0:24:36.240 --> 0:24:39.040 I'd love to do one about Vaulter, but gunther Stark 0:24:39.359 --> 0:24:41.200 and I don't know, man, I don't think that's gonna 0:24:41.240 --> 0:24:44.919 sell a lot of copies. The Adventures of Gunther Stark. 0:24:46.080 --> 0:24:50.760 Not to my current audience. It's weird. It seems to 0:24:50.800 --> 0:24:53.919