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Speaker 3: Hey, it's on now. It's on now.

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Speaker 2: twenty eight, The Years, twenty twenty five, Episode five sixty

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Speaker 2: crown is yours, Ken Flow. You do not look home.

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Speaker 2: I'm not asking you to necessarily lead with your whereabouts,

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Speaker 2: Oh, Paulie's Island, where, incidentally, Ken Flow is married in

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Speaker 3: You nailed it, dude, all right.

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Speaker 2: So we have so much to get to, so much

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Speaker 2: near de Ritter merchandise on my way home from Florida.

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Speaker 2: Went back down to Florida over the weekend. Some travel

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Speaker 2: issues on the way back, but it is great to

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Speaker 2: be with everyone. So tonight, Ken Flow tonight's the night Right.

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Speaker 2: We have a lot of mixed martial arts to get

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Speaker 2: to rest asshort the premiere of The Naked Gun in

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Speaker 2: New York City. I will be there with my soon

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Speaker 2: to be fourteen year old daughter Riley. Very exciting for

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Speaker 2: her to potentially be able to walk the red carpet.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, I mean, I think a lot of the

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Speaker 2: stuff that we did for the film. We did get

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Speaker 2: an email from the director, Kiva Schaeffer that some of

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Speaker 2: the stuff we did did end up on the cutting

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Speaker 2: room floor and perhaps we'll be repurposed later. But very

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Speaker 2: excited to have a small cameo potentially in this film

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Speaker 2: and excited to see it tonight with my daughter. We'll

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Speaker 2: see the extent to which it's inappropriate for thirteen almost

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Speaker 2: lot of our audience they don't necessarily know about the

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Speaker 2: Naked Gun films. And Leslie Nielsen's just undeniable greatness as

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Speaker 2: a comedic actor. Like massive shoes to fill for Liam

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Speaker 2: Neeson as I walk into this theater tonight.

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Speaker 3: He had a small role in the film Airplane, and

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Speaker 3: I just loved everything, every single thing he said and

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Speaker 3: then they brought them back. Obviously, you know for the

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Speaker 3: Naked Guns all the Zucker Zucker movies, and a big

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Speaker 3: fan of Naked gun Man, so I'm excited to see

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Speaker 2: So I don't know how old a lot of our

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Speaker 2: the original Naked Gun movies, you really should go back

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Speaker 2: and just watch an actor in just prime form and

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Speaker 2: we'll see how it goes tonight. Pamela Anderson and Liam

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Speaker 2: for everything going on in the world of mixed martial arts.

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Speaker 2: Now's a good time to enjoy the tequila that invented tequila. So, Kenny,

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Speaker 2: I don't know where to lead exactly. There are a

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Speaker 2: lead with UFC Fight Night, Whitaker versus Jarritter. Did you

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Speaker 2: see the featherweight prelim offering between Steven Wynn and Mohammed

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Speaker 2: ya Ya? And even if you did not, I know

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Speaker 3: I guess there was a controversial stoppage, right, or maybe

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Speaker 2: Yeah? So I don't know as a broadcast journalist if

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Speaker 2: this should be the lead story or if Robert Whittaker

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Speaker 2: and RDR should be the lead story. Right, But what

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Speaker 2: are we doing in the form of fighter safety?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 2: Like maybe I should call my friend Jason Herzog, whom

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Speaker 2: I really do love right and be like, you know, hey, Jason,

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Speaker 2: The ends don't justify the means. If there's a rally

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Speaker 2: And I know you didn't necessarily see it, so I

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Speaker 2: Bizpink first called for a potential stoppage because of all

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Speaker 3: You know, John, I guess I'll say something then tee

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Speaker 3: you up for a question. Because I did not see

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Speaker 3: How much do you think the early stoppage of the

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Speaker 3: Herzog was the referee for that, right, And.

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Speaker 2: You're damned if you don't. Right it all they all

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Speaker 2: I just think you know, Kevin McDonald Massachusetts accent right,

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Speaker 2: a lot of early stoppages in Korea as a referee,

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Speaker 6: Right.

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Speaker 2: You are going to be roundly criticized if you stop

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Speaker 3: Right. And that's where I wonder, you know, it's like

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I apologize for sidestepping your point. I was sort

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Speaker 2: recency in what you were saying. That Jason Herzo was

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Speaker 2: the referee for that super recently. I guess for a

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Speaker 2: sure Jason has some sort of defense. I just don't

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Speaker 2: dutiful as it gets, right Like, I led with his

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Speaker 2: masterfulness in that fight last year for a reason. But

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Speaker 2: there was a moment in the corner after round one,

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Speaker 2: just a really bad visual and Jason had just looked away.

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Speaker 2: And I'm not suggesting, yeah, he was looking for a

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Speaker 2: we have to lead with fighters safety. We have to

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Speaker 2: we do, and then they'll say power slap and you know,

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Speaker 3: Right, how much blame do you think is levied at

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Speaker 2: John plenty? And it's probably shame on me, right for

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Speaker 2: And then it says UFC Fights, But yeah, palpable, there's

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Speaker 3: You know, I've said this time and time again in

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Speaker 2: I had it the same way. There's certainly a case

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Speaker 2: And I think I was most fascinated amongst everything by

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Speaker 2: fucking anybody but Robert Whittaker, right, And you know, I

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Speaker 3: Kennedy, Yeah, Man, he's tough, he's very unorthodox, similar to

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Speaker 3: I think that the aggression was there. Maybe it's not

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Speaker 2: then I do believe just de Ritter's willingness to push

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Speaker 3: There were some fast based moments of that fight too, John,

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Speaker 2: They rely and a lot of good body language from

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Speaker 2: He's trying to set all sorts of pro creation records

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Speaker 2: I really like Whittaker as the fan base does. I

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Speaker 3: I think he's certainly in the mix. That one eighty

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Speaker 3: And I also think, to you know, Levy some criticism

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Speaker 3: but there's times where I'm like, oh, man, is he

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Speaker 3: So his toughness is amazing. Maybe some of that speed

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Speaker 3: This was the first guy that he hasn't finished in

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Speaker 2: So the calendar I think works for Deritter and I'm

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Speaker 2: what is the dream fight? Drake is duplus ce versus

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Speaker 2: Haamzat Chimaya for the UFC Middleweight Championship. Kenny, Right, I

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Speaker 3: It's going to be insane? First of all, uh and

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Speaker 3: I get, But dude, I that fight can go so

431
00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,760
Speaker 3: many different ways. That's what makes the sport and the

432
00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,360
Speaker 3: UFC so intriguing. I can't wait for that damn play.

433
00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:16,920
Speaker 2: I know we got to move on. Cody just wrote

434
00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:20,120
Speaker 2: in the chat, I think Ham's out is John's favorite

435
00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:24,400
Speaker 2: Driekus Duplessi told me that I was his favorite commentator,

436
00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:28,280
Speaker 2: and after he beat SJN. Strickland, Domina Cruz took a

437
00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:30,119
Speaker 2: picture with him and I think he maybe took a

438
00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:33,080
Speaker 2: photo with DC. I'm not sure, but that I walked

439
00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:34,879
Speaker 2: away and he was like, what, you know, my favorite

440
00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:36,880
Speaker 2: commentator doesn't want a picture after I win the belt,

441
00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,520
Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh, I you know, try to be respectful, right,

442
00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:41,119
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to take I mean, I love a

443
00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:43,359
Speaker 2: picture with you, but I'm not trying to be in

444
00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:46,640
Speaker 2: that moment. But yes, Cody, I think, I mean, yeah,

445
00:22:46,760 --> 00:22:48,840
Speaker 2: COM's out very well might be my favorite fighter. I

446
00:22:49,200 --> 00:22:52,040
Speaker 2: don't know that it had anything to do with being

447
00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,520
Speaker 2: sort of so impressionable in terms of what he was

448
00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:56,639
Speaker 2: doing during the global pandemic. But I think if you

449
00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:59,640
Speaker 2: were to ask Dana White in terms of an electric

450
00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:02,840
Speaker 2: four of nature unlike anything he's ever seen in the

451
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:05,840
Speaker 2: fight game before, I think he would probably say kam

452
00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:09,760
Speaker 2: Za Chimaya, right, or maybe like Ronda Rousey, you know

453
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:13,920
Speaker 2: what I mean, Like, yeah, yeah, there's not a really guy.

454
00:23:13,840 --> 00:23:17,200
Speaker 3: That's really like Kamza as far as the personality and

455
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:20,440
Speaker 3: the skills and everything he does in the octaman. Who

456
00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:24,640
Speaker 3: the hell sits on the octagon cage with his arms crossed,

457
00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:25,919
Speaker 3: just kind of waiting.

458
00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:27,240
Speaker 5: For his opponent. I mean, it's just good.

459
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,639
Speaker 2: Wow, man, well, and like in our first fighter meeting

460
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:32,399
Speaker 2: with the guy he was talking about, He's like, I

461
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:34,720
Speaker 2: want my war, right, and then he ended up getting

462
00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:36,639
Speaker 2: his war and Gil Burns a fight that could very

463
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:40,000
Speaker 2: well go into the Hall of Fame one day. Just incredible. Ah,

464
00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:43,480
Speaker 2: all right, So a lot of different directions in which

465
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:46,359
Speaker 2: we can go. You know, Piodrian remains elite, right, you know,

466
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:51,240
Speaker 2: just an experienced, multifaceted, skilled guy in all phases. And uh,

467
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:53,800
Speaker 2: just love the acceptance of this fight. You know, McGee

468
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:57,600
Speaker 2: obviously acknowledged the opportunity right after they sort of engaged.

469
00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:00,679
Speaker 2: After the fight twenty nine eight across the board for

470
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:04,760
Speaker 2: the uh still super wicked, fucking relevant to peodr Ya.

471
00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,360
Speaker 3: Peoter Yon's a beast man. And you know I ended

472
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 3: up picking Marcus McGee. I thought that it was gonna

473
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,840
Speaker 3: be worth it. You know that their skill set was similar,

474
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:17,560
Speaker 3: but ultimately the experience level was just it was not

475
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,480
Speaker 3: even close. Peoter Yn just was Cammon a lot of

476
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:24,560
Speaker 3: those situations where Marcus McGee wasn't. I think McGee was

477
00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:29,000
Speaker 3: showing that he wasn't as versatile as pewter Yon as well.

478
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:33,640
Speaker 3: And I thought Marcus McGee actually squeezed out round one,

479
00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:37,119
Speaker 3: but round two and round three. If you watch Peodryon before,

480
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:40,320
Speaker 3: this guy gets stronger as or tends to get stronger

481
00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 3: as the fight goes on. And to me, the difference

482
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:47,200
Speaker 3: was versatility and experience in this fight, but he looked phenomenal. John.

483
00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,680
Speaker 3: He's back. He's back, and he's got a lot of

484
00:24:49,720 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 3: momentum because of it.

485
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,679
Speaker 2: My favorite moment of the night is just watching the

486
00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:58,120
Speaker 2: way he embraces his two sons when they come into

487
00:24:58,160 --> 00:25:00,920
Speaker 2: the octagon with him. It's just so cool. And as

488
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:04,080
Speaker 2: far as spinning at four for pyotr Yan, Umar and

489
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,440
Speaker 2: Namaga Meda, right is the fight, right, It's the fight

490
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 2: that the UFC has, I think twice tried to make.

491
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:11,880
Speaker 2: And pyotr Yan has said that he accepted it in Azerbaijan,

492
00:25:11,960 --> 00:25:13,679
Speaker 2: and I think he accepted it somewhere else and now

493
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:18,120
Speaker 2: he's ready to move on. And that's the thing, right,

494
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:22,639
Speaker 2: is that he just went out and put his ranking

495
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,520
Speaker 2: on the line and his status on the line against

496
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:29,000
Speaker 2: a guy who has a two digit ranking, who was

497
00:25:29,080 --> 00:25:32,280
Speaker 2: undefeated in the UFC, and Marcus McGee is super tough, right, Yeah,

498
00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,360
Speaker 2: I think he's a guy who's gonna you know, get

499
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 2: some more green stripes here. But now Peodrian has produced

500
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:41,919
Speaker 2: to win, right, and so now what Pyodryan's supposed to

501
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 2: fight Umar in you know, wherever in November. It's like no, right,

502
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,479
Speaker 2: Like you know, like I understand why the former onun

503
00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,119
Speaker 2: disputed champion is like, you know, I went out and

504
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 2: got my win right now, I think it's smart for

505
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:58,399
Speaker 2: him to pause and see what happens uh between a

506
00:25:58,480 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 2: Robin Corn.

507
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:02,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know he's been very outspoken. I like that,

508
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 3: obviously showing some confidence and demanding some respect. And you know,

509
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:10,800
Speaker 3: Yon's the kind of guy that will fight anybody that

510
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:14,159
Speaker 3: is essentially offered to him. And this is not a

511
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:17,200
Speaker 3: knock on the guys from Dougston, but you know, they're

512
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 3: definitely way more calculated, and perhaps that's why they have

513
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 3: these you know, pristine or close to pristine records, but

514
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 3: they're way more careful in where they fight, who they fight,

515
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 3: what moves they make, all that stuff. And it could

516
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:34,440
Speaker 3: be frustrating for some fans, and for Peodrian, I think

517
00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:36,359
Speaker 3: he's kind of over it and ready to move on.

518
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,280
Speaker 2: As you said, like, if I'm Pyodrian, I'm like have

519
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 2: Sean O'Malley fight Omar, Right, I just went out and

520
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 2: got to win against a really tough guy, right, Like,

521
00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:48,359
Speaker 2: There's just so much that goes into all of this,

522
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:50,880
Speaker 2: and just have a lot of respect for the way

523
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 2: Peodrian has gone about his career. There have been some

524
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:55,639
Speaker 2: weird circumstances Kenny that he's had to deal with. Ed.

525
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:59,399
Speaker 2: I think he was asked a question about his fighting

526
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,080
Speaker 2: prime and where he is relative to it and Kabib

527
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,239
Speaker 2: Normago Medaw maybe has an opinion that you can't have

528
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 2: two fighting primes, And you know, I think Gall's one

529
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 2: of the few guys he's so confident in his own

530
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:16,360
Speaker 2: skin that he's not deferential to the legendary Kabib. Right

531
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,560
Speaker 2: in that moment, he says, well, that's Kabibe's opinion, but

532
00:27:18,680 --> 00:27:20,920
Speaker 2: I'm chasing my own greatness here and trying to become

533
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,160
Speaker 2: a two time on the speed of UFC BANTAMWA champ.

534
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:25,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, And to give U some context as well on

535
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,400
Speaker 3: what he's done with some of these fighters. Again, as

536
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 3: you mentioned Piotr young Jon, a former champion in that division.

537
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 3: It can be hard to go on a losing streak

538
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:36,680
Speaker 3: being at the top of the mountain and then going

539
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 3: on this losing streak and having to fight your way

540
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,359
Speaker 3: back up and now be seen as kind of this

541
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:46,200
Speaker 3: regular dude. The reality is is that he's a former champion.

542
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:48,920
Speaker 3: He had some bad luck, had some really tough fights,

543
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 3: and to find that inner strenk within him and to

544
00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 3: continue working on those skills to get better as a

545
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:58,199
Speaker 3: fighter is rare and difficult in this sport during this

546
00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 3: day and age. And to see him work his way

547
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,160
Speaker 3: back up I think is really really impressive and should

548
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:03,680
Speaker 3: be admired.

549
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 2: So Cody, I asked him to chase the numbers for

550
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:14,520
Speaker 2: Marob takedowns against pyodr Yan and their five round main event.

551
00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 2: Kenny Right, Morob attempted forty nine takedowns in that fight.

552
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,640
Speaker 2: I actually thought it was sixty one, right, I thought

553
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 2: it was sixty one. Now Pyodrian has acknowledged that he

554
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,959
Speaker 2: wasn't healthy in that fight. And again, you know, they

555
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 2: allow Morob, who I don't know if he's a human being, right,

556
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,560
Speaker 2: but they allow him to compete with all these people.

557
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:35,919
Speaker 2: You know, No, but I don't know what would be

558
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,800
Speaker 2: different if Morob were to get through Cory Right. So

559
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 2: we don't want to get ahead of ourselves, right, But

560
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 2: it's just crazy to think back to that first meeting

561
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 2: between Pyotr Jan and Mirob d Wallish Willie and what

562
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,120
Speaker 2: the Russian boxer might need to do to try to

563
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:52,040
Speaker 2: sort of close that gap. But we need to move on.

564
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:56,560
Speaker 2: Congratulations to Pyodrian ray Longo coming up here in about

565
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 2: two minutes. I have a bunch of would you rathers

566
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,280
Speaker 2: for him today, and I don't know, I'm not going

567
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 2: to necessarily lead with that. You know, I want to

568
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 2: get some some thoughts from you on some of these

569
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 2: fight announcements if I could, because I think it's a

570
00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 2: decent segue. We'll talk about Charboul and some of these

571
00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 2: other things. How about bog Doon Guskov. I mean, god,

572
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:20,360
Speaker 2: exactly what that guy fucking needed. But Cory Sanagan has

573
00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 2: got this fight and the one thing that he knew,

574
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 2: and he's fighting Marob Dwallish Willie and it is going

575
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 2: down at UFC three, twenty October, fourth dateline, Las Vegas.

576
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:35,520
Speaker 2: And the one thing Cory Sanahagan knew Kenny was right

577
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 2: like this this all sense like Corey was going on

578
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 2: a vacation, right, And you know with Mara, you're not

579
00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 2: getting six months. You're not getting five months, You're not

580
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 2: getting four months, right, And he knew he was getting

581
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:52,040
Speaker 2: this fight quickly. And here we are July twenty eighth,

582
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 2: and less than three months from now, it shall be done.

583
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 3: I love this fight. I think Corey's haigen poses some

584
00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 3: very interesting problems for mirab Duallashvili. But obviously Morob is

585
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 3: going to be the favorite hitting in It is just

586
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 3: based on the variety of opponents that he has faced.

587
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 3: He's accrued so much experience and has only gotten better

588
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 3: and more confident. So, uh, not not the best time

589
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,520
Speaker 3: to be fighting Marob, But at the very least, I

590
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 3: think if you're Corey Sanahagen, you're saying, well, I know

591
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,560
Speaker 3: they call him the machine, but he is human, I hope,

592
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 3: but he is. He's staying quite active. This is a

593
00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:31,680
Speaker 3: quick turnaround for mirab duwallas Phely. So the hope is that,

594
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,120
Speaker 3: you know, maybe he's not at one hundred percent, but

595
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 3: that's hard to count on when you're talking about someone

596
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 3: like Morab who really does train and fight like a machine.

597
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 3: And yeah, it's it's a tough time to fight someone

598
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 3: like Marob. Corey's gonna have to do everything perfectly. But

599
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 3: I do like the fact that he faced someone like

600
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:53,000
Speaker 3: Umar and Nomonger mean Off in his last fight. He's

601
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 3: at high level wrestling, knows how to scramble out of

602
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 3: a lot of those positions. He's just gonna have to

603
00:30:57,800 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 3: be pretty damn perfect against Marob.

604
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 2: It's all so fascinating, right. I Mean, you talk about

605
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 2: Dwallace Willy fighting Umar and Romago Mutav in January, not

606
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:10,800
Speaker 2: against his will, but on the challenger's timeline, right, and

607
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,719
Speaker 2: again it sort of dovetails back to pyotr Yan, right.

608
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:17,640
Speaker 2: It seemed like that January fight happened on Umar's timeline, right,

609
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:19,760
Speaker 2: So is the Yon fight gonna happen on that timeline

610
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 2: as well? I'm not so sure, But san Hagen knew

611
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 2: that this fight was going to be put together pretty quickly,

612
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 2: so certainly he's been in training camp, right. But Kenny,

613
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 2: that fight week is nine weeks away, and I mean,

614
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,080
Speaker 2: Morav is just putting the UFC on his back, right.

615
00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 2: He could wrap up the Fighter of the Year on

616
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:43,240
Speaker 2: October fourth. The headlining act that night, Kenny, unless I'm mistaken,

617
00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 2: is going to be Ankliah versus Paeda act too. As

618
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 2: Maga Man Anklia makes the first defensive his UFC Light

619
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:53,959
Speaker 2: Heavyweight championship against the former champ, Alex Poeton Paeda. To

620
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 2: what extent do you expect a different fight? What are

621
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:56,760
Speaker 2: your early thoughts on that?

622
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 3: Well, this was the fight to make. Of course, we

623
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 3: know about maybe Alex Perera not being at one hundred

624
00:32:02,720 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 3: percent in that fight against Uncle Liab, so I think

625
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:09,640
Speaker 3: he needs to learn from that fight. That's what it

626
00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 3: comes down to. I also think that, and I've talked

627
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 3: about this a lot, that Pereira I think is, you know,

628
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:19,760
Speaker 3: really highly regarded for his power and for his accuracy,

629
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,520
Speaker 3: but maybe not as respected for his intelligence. I think

630
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 3: this is a really smart fighter that I think will

631
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 3: come back better in this one here against Uncliath.

632
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:30,719
Speaker 5: What does he need to do.

633
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:34,200
Speaker 3: He needs to establish that job. He got that job

634
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 3: going way too late. He needs to be more aggressive.

635
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:40,360
Speaker 3: He needs to throw more volume and have more confidences

636
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 3: to take down defense. So if he's able to do that,

637
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,040
Speaker 3: I think he'll let those hands go a lot more

638
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:47,800
Speaker 3: and put Uncle Live on his back foot, which will

639
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 3: really give him an advantage in the rematch.

640
00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 2: Fascinating stuff. We also have news on the tom asmin

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Speaker 2: Off front. And we'll go three wide to get into

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Speaker 2: all of that. Let's welcome in. This are the program.

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Speaker 2: It's signed for the Ray long Ago minute.

644
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Speaker 3: Now time for the Ray Longo minutes. A hole in

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Speaker 3: this fucking sub That's what I want, The Ray.

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Speaker 2: Longo Minute, the John Annik and Kenny Florian Podcast. I mean,

647
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 2: Ray's so good, he's the star of the show. We

648
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,479
Speaker 2: put him in the center of the screen. Do your

649
00:33:25,520 --> 00:33:27,720
Speaker 2: own show, Ray, but we appreciate you showing up for

650
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 2: us ten years strong.

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Speaker 5: Good morning, Good morning, guys. How are we doing?

652
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,760
Speaker 2: I'm doing okay. I mean if I could fight Jet

653
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:37,920
Speaker 2: Blue as an airline in an octagon, I would. I

654
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 2: got home at three fifteen am. My goodness. They got

655
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 2: to get their act together.

656
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 6: The brother it's getting it's getting worse, man, I'm hearing

657
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 6: this from everybody.

658
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 2: I mean, in terms of personnel and issues. Got an issue.

659
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,560
Speaker 2: Here's a fucking tissue. But I'm telling you, man, you

660
00:33:55,600 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 2: know that many options aren't that comes to uh, But

661
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 2: it's more like the eleven notifications across the eight hours, right,

662
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 2: and then a lot of issues beyond that. But people

663
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,240
Speaker 2: don't want to hear about my problems, right. Very grateful

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Speaker 2: on a Monday, Ray, you're looking pretty good. I mean,

665
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 2: we know you're aging in reverse, but it's always nice

666
00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 2: to see. How was your weekend, kid? How was your weekend? Kid?

667
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 5: Weekend was good? Was pretty good?

668
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 2: So go ahead, go ahead, no please, no, you go no,

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Speaker 2: you had what you had? What I had a rash?

670
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 2: But you got some cream and you're good now, right, I.

671
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Speaker 6: Tell you what this is why he's the best man.

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00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 2: Kissed me off earlier today, though, Ray, what happened, underslept?

673
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 2: It can go right, underslept can go one of two ways.

674
00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 2: It can help you or it can hurt you, you know.

675
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:52,680
Speaker 2: But sometimes people mistake my energy for performance enhancing drugs

676
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:55,960
Speaker 2: like adderall, which is basically cocaine and pill formed. I'm

677
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:59,320
Speaker 2: just excited it's coffee.

678
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,360
Speaker 5: Because what it is so there is no adderall.

679
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 2: Say no, I mean you can send me some. I

680
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,280
Speaker 2: think it would be a performance And no, I don't

681
00:35:06,280 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 2: have any right now, don't have any right now anyway,

682
00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:15,760
Speaker 2: not to get into So we have doing so much today,

683
00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 2: So you got to get out of here in twenty

684
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:18,840
Speaker 2: six minutes from right now? Is that accurate?

685
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 5: Probably?

686
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,040
Speaker 2: Okay? All right, well you tell us whenever you have

687
00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:23,800
Speaker 2: to go. We're going to try to go pretty efficiently

688
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:25,960
Speaker 2: today because I have about ten or twelve things to

689
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 2: get into. So wow, UFC three twenty one aspinall versus

690
00:35:30,040 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 2: seatle Gone is October twenty fifth in Abu Dabi. So

691
00:35:34,120 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 2: we sort of said here on the Anak Imploring podcast,

692
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:37,840
Speaker 2: we felt like the absolute latest we were going to

693
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,440
Speaker 2: see Tommy make the defense of this undisputed title was

694
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 2: going to be October twenty fifth, And he says, you know,

695
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:45,920
Speaker 2: seaedle Gon has gotten myriad opportunities that has been now

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00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 2: acknowledged by the undisputed champion, Kenny, I'd like to get

697
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 2: your thoughts on this as well. Right, But like seal

698
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,759
Speaker 2: Gon has gotten a lot of opportunities and tom sort

699
00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 2: of is ready to clear out this business. What do

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00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,399
Speaker 2: you make of this championship fight? Ray, Because I think

701
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 2: skill for skill probably the competitive heavyweight fight that can

702
00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:02,280
Speaker 2: be put together.

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00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 6: I mean, listen, skill for skill. I think standing up obviously,

704
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 6: I think that'd be a really really good fight. I think,

705
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 6: and the two, you know, kind of opposite. One's more

706
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 6: of a power player, one's a finesse player for a

707
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,840
Speaker 6: big guy. But what Jones did to him on the floor.

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Speaker 5: I think.

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00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:25,799
Speaker 6: I think the problem is that he hasn't corrected that

710
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 6: gap in the wrestling and the jiu jitsu. He's the

711
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 6: same thing's gonna happen. I think Aspall will just take

712
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 6: him down and probably more of them. It will probably

713
00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:34,760
Speaker 6: be even worse.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, John, I'm curious about Aspinall's patience in a fight

715
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Speaker 3: against someone like Cyril Gone, because he has a tendency

716
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 3: and a knack, and this is a positive thing for

717
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:50,799
Speaker 3: slowing down the fight sometimes because he has such good

718
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:54,200
Speaker 3: forward and he understands range really well. He knows how

719
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 3: to kind of diffuse pressure pretty well and kind of

720
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,839
Speaker 3: disengage when he needs to. Tom is used to going

721
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:02,919
Speaker 3: out out there and starching guys early on, and I'm

722
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:05,360
Speaker 3: curious to see what happens to Tom Aspinall when he

723
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 3: gets into rounds three, four, and five, When you get

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00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,399
Speaker 3: a guy that big, that explosive, who doesn't have those

725
00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,839
Speaker 3: late round who doesn't have that late round experience, I'm

726
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:17,720
Speaker 3: curious to see how he responds in that environment, should

727
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 3: it go that route. But I agree with Ray, I

728
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 3: think he's spot on. It's like, even if you know

729
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:24,439
Speaker 3: you have a little bit of an advantage on the feet,

730
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,560
Speaker 3: but if you know you have a huge advantage on

731
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:28,800
Speaker 3: the ground, you take that damn fight to the ground.

732
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 3: When we've seen Cyril gone exposed in the past on

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Speaker 3: the ground. So yeah, I'm curious to see the approach

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Speaker 3: that Aspinall has.

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Speaker 2: It is fascinating, right when you have that combination of

736
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,120
Speaker 2: speed and power as Tommy does on the feet. But

737
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,840
Speaker 2: there is so clearly a path of least resistance. And

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Speaker 2: I'm not even saying Tom Aspinall is like Frankmuir on

739
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 2: the ground, but I don't know how far off he

740
00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 2: is in terms of chas and necks and limbs, right, Kenny, Like,

741
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 2: I just feel like there's so clearly a path here,

742
00:37:56,840 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 2: yet see it all gone ray in theory. I know

743
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 2: he's been shooting movies as well, but has he not

744
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,480
Speaker 2: been doing like in theory he would be doing wrestling

745
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,759
Speaker 2: and grappling like all the time since twenty twenty three

746
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 2: March right?

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00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:12,160
Speaker 5: Should be? Should be right?

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00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 6: But John, I can tell you from being around it

749
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 6: doesn't always work like that. Guys want to do what

750
00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:20,480
Speaker 6: they want to do, and they want to do what

751
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,840
Speaker 6: they like to do, sometimes more than they will have

752
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 6: to do with you know what they have to like

753
00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 6: to do what they have to do.

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00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 5: He has to.

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00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:31,839
Speaker 6: If he didn't put the time in, then yeah, he's

756
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 6: gonna be in trouble. But I'll tell you he is

757
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 6: a guy that navigated you know, Angano pretty good. I

758
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:41,799
Speaker 6: think standing up boys as powerful as Aspinall is. I think,

759
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 6: like what Kenny said, this guy's gonna move. He's gonna

760
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 6: offset you a little bit to where I think Aspinall

761
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 6: I just think it's gonna I know, Brainon, he's just

762
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:52,880
Speaker 6: gonna blast his way in and go for the takedown.

763
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Speaker 2: Yeah. So we spent a lot of time talking about

764
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:59,160
Speaker 2: Morob Dwallis Willey as he ties into this pyodor Yan

765
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,359
Speaker 2: stuff and his win over the weekend. I do want

766
00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:03,320
Speaker 2: to get your thoughts ray On, Ryan near deritter and

767
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 2: all of that. But Mara man right, the fight week

768
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 2: is nine weeks away. Forget China. You're not in China yet,

769
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:11,799
Speaker 2: are you right?

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00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 3: No?

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00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,240
Speaker 5: No, no, you know I'm not going to China.

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00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:19,040
Speaker 2: Oh that's right, that's right. Forgive me no. Yeah, that

773
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 2: really worked out. You literally told your wife as soon

774
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,360
Speaker 2: as that fight was booked, like we need a fucking vacation.

775
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 2: But November I'm not going so ray like can wrap

776
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,800
Speaker 2: up the Fighter of the Year on October fourth, he

777
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:42,040
Speaker 2: is competing again. He has put the UFC on his back,

778
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,120
Speaker 2: and his next title defense is nine weeks away.

779
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 5: Crazy.

780
00:39:47,320 --> 00:39:48,479
Speaker 2: Okay, that's all I got.

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00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 6: No, no, no, no, look I think that Look for me,

782
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 6: I think the weekend is look you got He's gonna

783
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:57,720
Speaker 6: fight on the fourth. Al Joe's wedding is on the fifth.

784
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 6: I think this whole is gonna be crazy. Oh yeah,

785
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 6: Algia's getting married October fifth in Vegas the day after.

786
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, wow.

787
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:10,919
Speaker 2: That is that is fit.

788
00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 5: This is crazy. I think I love it.

789
00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I got bar Mitz for October fifth,

790
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:20,279
Speaker 2: nineteen ninety one. It all makes sense. I can't wait

791
00:40:20,320 --> 00:40:22,440
Speaker 2: to tell that to Alja, who won't get a lot

792
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 2: of numbers. Shit, So that is insane. I'm just digesting

793
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 2: that now. I mean, these guys are on the same block,

794
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 2: they're best friends. He's getting married to the amazing Rebecca

795
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:36,919
Speaker 2: the next day.

796
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,720
Speaker 5: Yeah. Wow, wow.

797
00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:44,160
Speaker 2: I mean Morob is just he isn't human, He's not.

798
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:48,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, I know, he is just the guy's amazing.

799
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,319
Speaker 2: He's my idol, He's my hero. If I had to

800
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:54,000
Speaker 2: fill out a bio now and it's said hero, I'd

801
00:40:54,000 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 2: write fucking Morob Dwallers will right, You're not as amusing

802
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 2: today as Kenny.

803
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 5: No no, no, no, no, no no no no.

804
00:41:03,280 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 6: I'm just I'm thinking of Mob, even though a couple

805
00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:08,920
Speaker 6: of weeks ago when he was in he's just hitting

806
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:11,840
Speaker 6: the bag, doing his thing, not even nothing crazy, and

807
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:15,200
Speaker 6: then somebody that you want to move, it's just he

808
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 6: just starts breaking everybody. He just go It's almost like

809
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 6: he could go from sleeping right into the octagon, like

810
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,520
Speaker 6: I'm sure that was the last thing on his mind,

811
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:28,440
Speaker 6: and he went in there and just terrorized everybody.

812
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:31,359
Speaker 5: I mean, the guys. He's just amazing, man.

813
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 2: So real quick. I didn't intend to go long winded

814
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 2: on this, but not Morob doesn't need to play mind games. Right,

815
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:41,240
Speaker 2: But Corey Sandhagen sort of knew he was the number

816
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:44,360
Speaker 2: one contender after his last win and sort of was

817
00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 2: hoping that Morob would get through Shan O'Malley and make

818
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 2: it clean. And it all has worked out for Corey Sandhagen, right,

819
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 2: But he was about to go on a vacation in

820
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 2: Hawaii with absolutely no joy for that vacation, right because

821
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 2: you know that you're gonna have to turn around quickly,

822
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 2: and it's not a mind game, you know, but it's

823
00:42:03,280 --> 00:42:05,680
Speaker 2: like you're not going to get a lot of time

824
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 2: as a challenger to to to fight this guy. I

825
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 2: can't believe how stamisfied this happened, you know, yeah.

826
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:14,840
Speaker 6: You know it's uh, you know, it's funny too, what

827
00:42:15,040 --> 00:42:17,880
Speaker 6: you talk about mind games. I think Emmy Corey was

828
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 6: we were in the back, and I could be I

829
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 6: might be wrong on this because I wasn't really like

830
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,000
Speaker 6: in the cows, just standing there. But uh, when he

831
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:25,719
Speaker 6: was talking to him a rob and it was like

832
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 6: two in the morning, he said, uh, I think he

833
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 6: said this, and if he didn't, right, he could use

834
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 6: it as his routine. But he goes by by here,

835
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:34,840
Speaker 6: I gotta I gotta get going, I gotta go running.

836
00:42:35,640 --> 00:42:37,560
Speaker 6: But you know what, you know, he's he was. You know,

837
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 6: it was funny Corey's attempt. You know, he's got to

838
00:42:40,239 --> 00:42:43,439
Speaker 6: dry sense to you. Obviously he's not, you know, out

839
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 6: in your face. But I thought it was hysterical, So

840
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:48,319
Speaker 6: I thought, you know, I think he thought he was

841
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 6: playing mind games, maybe in a funny way. But when

842
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 6: you mentioned mind games, That's what I thought of, and

843
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 6: I hope that story is accurate because I think that's

844
00:42:56,120 --> 00:42:56,880
Speaker 6: what went there.

845
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:00,680
Speaker 2: I am curious after this fire, and I know we

846
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,319
Speaker 2: got to move the fuck on. But if we were

847
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:06,760
Speaker 2: to ask Cory Sanagen, hey December in Vegas, December sixth

848
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 2: in Vegas or November Madison Square Garden forgetting about taxes,

849
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 2: would that have been a little bit more ideal? Because

850
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 2: Morob fought June seventh, right, So like, that's what I'm

851
00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 2: saying is like the champion defends his title and six

852
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 2: or seven weeks later, they're like, hey, man, we'll see

853
00:43:23,160 --> 00:43:26,879
Speaker 2: you in nine weeks, right, Like I don't know, June

854
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 2: seventh to October fourth, I don't know how many weeks

855
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:32,720
Speaker 2: that is, right, But I do believe san Haagen expected

856
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,320
Speaker 2: that this would be expedited, but not even this fast.

857
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:35,879
Speaker 2: That's all.

858
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,359
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah, that's all. I mean.

859
00:43:38,440 --> 00:43:40,680
Speaker 6: Look, no matter when you list that guy in a fight,

860
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 6: he's I think he's ready to go and that that

861
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 6: might be a long time for him. I mean, he

862
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:49,800
Speaker 6: came out of that last fight totally fine, so it

863
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 6: was like another another day in the gym for him.

864
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 3: Great, what'd you think of this? Main event between Whittaker

865
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:58,880
Speaker 3: and RDR. Who did you have winning and what do

866
00:43:58,920 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 3: you think of the fight?

867
00:44:00,719 --> 00:44:05,280
Speaker 5: Uh? You know again, listen, I had fights over the weekend,

868
00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:08,839
Speaker 5: so everything I was watching completely I did. I did

869
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 5: watch that fight.

870
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 6: Though I thought Wouldaker won the fight, I would have

871
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:15,959
Speaker 6: given him probably won three and four and.

872
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:19,240
Speaker 5: Okay, I think you could even make a case for five.

873
00:44:19,400 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 6: Very Look, if it's not for the rider's knee, I

874
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:27,799
Speaker 6: don't know a hundred that kept him in the fight

875
00:44:27,880 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 6: at least, But he's.

876
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:29,880
Speaker 5: Just he looked.

877
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:34,040
Speaker 6: He's another example of I mean, he obviously he's good,

878
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:37,360
Speaker 6: but he's so tough and determined that it's it just

879
00:44:37,640 --> 00:44:42,359
Speaker 6: really overrides everything but the optive optics Kenny, of him

880
00:44:42,400 --> 00:44:45,840
Speaker 6: getting jabbed and his head flying back and missing punches.

881
00:44:45,880 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 6: I think, you know, Dean even made a comment on

882
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,800
Speaker 6: on the you know, like, even when you're missing, it

883
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 6: could uh you know, persuade the judges that you're not

884
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 6: looking good.

885
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:57,680
Speaker 5: And I agree.

886
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 6: He's not the most aesthetic looking guy obviously, but man

887
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 6: is he tough determined, And I will say that that

888
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:05,399
Speaker 6: real knee is.

889
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:06,320
Speaker 5: A major problem.

890
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 6: He's got that down to where he could walk in

891
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 6: and if you're not ready for it.

892
00:45:11,000 --> 00:45:12,879
Speaker 5: He could do some damage with it. I think he did.

893
00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 6: I think when he got him down in the second round,

894
00:45:15,120 --> 00:45:17,400
Speaker 6: I think that's what did it. But uh yeah, I

895
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 6: thought Whitaker won Kenny.

896
00:45:19,600 --> 00:45:22,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh gotcha. No, and it was close. The only

897
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:25,080
Speaker 3: thing I would count to Dean's point is that while

898
00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 3: that may be true as far as what may influence

899
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:31,439
Speaker 3: a referee, what my influence isn't what scores the fight.

900
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:36,400
Speaker 6: And there's a big difference. Yeah, yeah, but I think Kenny.

901
00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 6: But we have to admit that those guys are human

902
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:41,319
Speaker 6: and sometimes those differences.

903
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:44,719
Speaker 3: It never looks good when you're kind of yeah right,

904
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 3: And I.

905
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:48,720
Speaker 5: Think that looks really bad. But because it makes it look.

906
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:51,040
Speaker 6: Like if you're scoring on damage, it makes it look

907
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 6: like there's more damage than maybe another guy would make

908
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:55,799
Speaker 6: it look like if he got hit with the jam.

909
00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:58,320
Speaker 6: So you know, I don't know it was, but I,

910
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:02,640
Speaker 6: like you say close. I don't think anybody could complain,

911
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:05,319
Speaker 6: But I thought would good enough to win that fight.

912
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 2: God of love that Raymond goes from banging on the

913
00:46:09,600 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 2: word optics to just adopting it into his vernacular because.

914
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:18,560
Speaker 5: You're a one, right, that's a word I never use,

915
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 5: but but I love it. I love the word.

916
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:26,279
Speaker 2: My least favorite word is impactful. Something either has an

917
00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 2: impact or it doesn't, right, I mean the over usage

918
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:31,959
Speaker 2: of the word impactful in sports. Every time I see

919
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:33,840
Speaker 2: it in anything that is written for me, I just

920
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:37,480
Speaker 2: delete the fuck out of it. So there were so

921
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 2: many things that happened on this UFC fight night right now.

922
00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:42,960
Speaker 2: One question I did have in my notes. You know,

923
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 2: remember a couple of weeks ago seven Waterer, Boy Thompson,

924
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 2: Gabriel Bonfime, and you were sort of saying, in some

925
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:50,400
Speaker 2: part it's just uncanny how these splits go to the

926
00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:54,319
Speaker 2: younger the younger guy, right, And not that there's some

927
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 2: major age gap between Robert Whittaker and Ryan near de Ritter, right,

928
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 2: but in terms of one guy who's maybe coming into

929
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:03,600
Speaker 2: a UFC title shot versus a guy who's been there.

930
00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:05,879
Speaker 2: Were you thinking there's anti parallel to be John there

931
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 2: or not?

932
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 6: First off, I'm always unfortunately unfortunately for me, John, I'm

933
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 6: always thinking like that. But uh, yeah, I mean the

934
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:16,680
Speaker 6: rit is the guy that you know looks like he's

935
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 6: got more momentum.

936
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:21,440
Speaker 5: Thik has been there, done that a hundred times.

937
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know, man, Yeah, I threw it. I

938
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 6: threw it out there, and I think if you look

939
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 6: for the majority of the times, it's going to be

940
00:47:31,160 --> 00:47:32,320
Speaker 6: a correct observation.

941
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:39,440
Speaker 2: So I would imagine that this Steven Wynn Mohammed Yaya

942
00:47:39,719 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 2: prelim fight that resulted in a lot of facial damage

943
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:45,800
Speaker 2: perhaps has crossed your wake on social media.

944
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:49,960
Speaker 6: Wait, well, yeah, that fight, that fight I saw that

945
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 6: was I didn't see any of the social media.

946
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:56,000
Speaker 2: Pa okay, please well, please tell me what the heck

947
00:47:56,080 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 2: you thought.

948
00:47:58,840 --> 00:48:01,799
Speaker 5: The guy that got knocked down like six times each time?

949
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 5: What did I think?

950
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 6: I thought he was, you know, too tough for his

951
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 6: own good. He should have stayed down after the fifteenth time,

952
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:15,959
Speaker 6: you know. But you know, the problem was the guy

953
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 6: was still throwing, like hey make he could have gotten lucky.

954
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:23,479
Speaker 5: I think if he was fighting, he was fighting back,

955
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:27,120
Speaker 5: so some I don't know. That was weird. He was

956
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 5: just like he he was.

957
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 3: So do you I guess I have got I got

958
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:35,280
Speaker 3: two questions. Yeah, I assume you felt that it should

959
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:37,400
Speaker 3: have been stopped. And if you were in his corner,

960
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:38,480
Speaker 3: would you have stopped the fight?

961
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:38,759
Speaker 5: Right?

962
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 6: I mean, i'd have I feel like it definitely should

963
00:48:43,600 --> 00:48:46,799
Speaker 6: have been stopped because if you know, and he wasn't

964
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:49,200
Speaker 6: doing himself any favors, he might not have been hurt.

965
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:51,680
Speaker 6: Maybe a couple of those flash knockdowns, but a couple

966
00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 6: of them looked like he was getting punched off his feet.

967
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 6: You know, so uh man, you'd have to know you

968
00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 6: fight him, But I would want to say, I'd have

969
00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:04,320
Speaker 6: to issue the guy like, un listen, one more, I

970
00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 6: can't watch it. No more, one more knockdown. I'm throwing

971
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 6: the towel at something. Right, you know, you give him

972
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:12,799
Speaker 6: an opportunity to do something, but you know, you know

973
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:16,799
Speaker 6: he was doing just that's where it gets tricky. He

974
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 6: was because a couple didn't he throw some crazy spin backfist,

975
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:24,760
Speaker 6: spin elbows and almost like almost he might have connected.

976
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 6: It's just the other guy was so determined. He knew

977
00:49:27,239 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 6: he was on the route to win in that you know,

978
00:49:30,040 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 6: it wasn't bulling him, But yeah, what do you do

979
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:36,680
Speaker 6: with that that Every so often it's almost like Moutino

980
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:40,279
Speaker 6: against the O'Malley. He could take that beating, you know

981
00:49:40,360 --> 00:49:42,879
Speaker 6: what I mean, like and then you see what that got.

982
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:45,719
Speaker 5: I mean, you know he can't take as much of

983
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:46,359
Speaker 5: a beating and.

984
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:49,360
Speaker 2: You'll see where that got him exactly.

985
00:49:49,480 --> 00:49:51,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's that's the problem.

986
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:57,960
Speaker 2: So and he didn't get knocked down thirty seven times. Yeah, right,

987
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:01,799
Speaker 2: Like we don't need a fire I've knockdown rule. We

988
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 2: just need sort of an inner monologue that's like, all right,

989
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:06,840
Speaker 2: if this guy gets knocked down, if you know, in

990
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:09,600
Speaker 2: a five minute round, he get knocked down five times,

991
00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 2: you know, like, yeah, so well, I'm glad to have

992
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:15,479
Speaker 2: your perspective on that. See, it's weeks like this where

993
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:17,680
Speaker 2: I wish that Ray's alarm clock went off a little

994
00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 2: bit earlier because we would love to have you as

995
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 2: part of that conversation off the top of the show.

996
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:22,560
Speaker 2: But I know eleven am Eastern a little bit of

997
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 2: an early call time.

998
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:26,760
Speaker 5: Yes, if I have to do, I'm a team player,

999
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 5: What are you kidding me? Yeah, yeah, I'm in yeah, but.

1000
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:33,319
Speaker 6: Yeah, but those are you know, I tell you, John,

1001
00:50:33,800 --> 00:50:36,279
Speaker 6: that fight knockdown rule might not be a bad thing.

1002
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:41,360
Speaker 6: You've got to protect guys against them themselves, you know. Yeah,

1003
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:43,840
Speaker 6: it would be a little weird, but that would have

1004
00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 6: helped in that fight. Take it out everybody's hands.

1005
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 2: Right, right, So I wanted to ask you guys, a

1006
00:50:50,239 --> 00:50:52,239
Speaker 2: question that I had in my notes about sort of

1007
00:50:52,280 --> 00:50:55,160
Speaker 2: fighting at the elite levels and staying ready. Because we

1008
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:58,160
Speaker 2: have a new co main event for Chicago here in

1009
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:04,720
Speaker 2: nineteen days UFC three nineteen Laron Murphy versus Aaron Pico.

1010
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:06,759
Speaker 2: So Pico, of course was supposed to fight Moths or

1011
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:11,440
Speaker 2: Ivloyev in Abu Dhabi. That did not happen because I

1012
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 2: Offloyev was forced to withdraw due to injury, right, and

1013
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:17,720
Speaker 2: so in steps Laron Murphy, who is undefeated and undeniably contender.

1014
00:51:17,760 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 2: And I guess the question Ray and Kenny is just

1015
00:51:20,239 --> 00:51:23,719
Speaker 2: sort of about staying ready at the elite level, right,

1016
00:51:23,760 --> 00:51:27,840
Speaker 2: because Aaron Pico is a determined man to win the

1017
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:30,600
Speaker 2: undisputed title, and Kenny and Ray he is of a

1018
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 2: mindset it would appear that he's going to be ready

1019
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 2: for the next year almost for whatever and whatever high

1020
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:41,280
Speaker 2: profile spot materializes, weight cut hard or otherwise. And credit

1021
00:51:41,280 --> 00:51:43,720
Speaker 2: to Laron Murphy as well, But what are your thoughts

1022
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:45,840
Speaker 2: on sort of what you might need to do in

1023
00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 2: the current climate of MMA to try to get a

1024
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 2: title fight at say thirty five, forty five, fifty five

1025
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 2: or seven.

1026
00:51:52,560 --> 00:51:54,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess for me, I was always training. I

1027
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:58,240
Speaker 3: never understood camps. I just kind of would train throughout

1028
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:00,000
Speaker 3: the year, and I think that's the way you got

1029
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:02,759
Speaker 3: to do it. If you're a professional, you should be

1030
00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 3: training all the time. Now, being fight ready is still

1031
00:52:05,600 --> 00:52:08,399
Speaker 3: a different thing, you know, But there are guys out

1032
00:52:08,400 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 3: there that's like, whenever I get a fight is when

1033
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:12,799
Speaker 3: I start training. I don't agree with that. I think

1034
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:17,239
Speaker 3: you gotta be ready, but I think, as you know,

1035
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:20,080
Speaker 3: pro fighter, I think you need I think a solid

1036
00:52:20,120 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 3: two weeks as far as a conditioning camp to really

1037
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:25,719
Speaker 3: get ready. I think that's probably the minimum maybe for

1038
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:28,759
Speaker 3: me to make sure I'm going to be as in

1039
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 3: good shape as possible. But because you're doing your conditioning.

1040
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:35,520
Speaker 3: But as far as being five round ready or three

1041
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 3: round ready, that's a little bit of a different thing

1042
00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:40,279
Speaker 3: as far as how you approach conditioning the way I

1043
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:44,840
Speaker 3: did anyway, So I think I think Laren Murphy's probably

1044
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:49,560
Speaker 3: taking this at the right time and probably maybe trying

1045
00:52:49,560 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 3: to do a UFC a favor since maybe fans didn't

1046
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:53,359
Speaker 3: love his last fight.

1047
00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 5: I like it.

1048
00:52:57,000 --> 00:52:59,440
Speaker 6: I like it, but yeah, I know with the guys

1049
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:02,439
Speaker 6: that listen, you have to be in the gym all

1050
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:05,759
Speaker 6: the time. If you're that That's what Morob does though,

1051
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:10,279
Speaker 6: that's the secret he's he's training and it might be

1052
00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 6: hard for other guys, but it's not hard for him.

1053
00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:15,640
Speaker 6: He enjoys it and that's the way he's going to train,

1054
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 6: and it's gotten him this far and I wouldn't change

1055
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:20,319
Speaker 6: a damn thing about it. But I know when I

1056
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 6: get guys, I got certain conditioning protocols just to I'm

1057
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:26,839
Speaker 6: not going to kill them because it's not fight time

1058
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 6: where you want to try to really reb him a piker,

1059
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 6: just to keep him in there. So if they do

1060
00:53:31,080 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 6: get a last minute or something, they know they've been

1061
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:35,399
Speaker 6: doing something and you know, you know what I mean.

1062
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:38,840
Speaker 6: So I'm definitely very conscious of that with certain people.

1063
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:41,799
Speaker 6: I got this, you know Dylan Montello. I mean I

1064
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:45,320
Speaker 6: told him yesterday. He spawred last night and I was like, dude,

1065
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:47,880
Speaker 6: he doesn't even have a fight coming up, but he's

1066
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 6: doing all the protocols and I go, do that, you're

1067
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 6: ready to go, like I can't even believe this is

1068
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:55,439
Speaker 6: the best like I've seen you look and it could

1069
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 6: because there's no pressure of a fight too, and he's

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00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:00,000
Speaker 6: got a lot on his plate. With you know, kids

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00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:02,480
Speaker 6: and stuff like that. But you have to stay ready.

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00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:05,080
Speaker 6: I mean, he thinks he thinks something's going to come

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00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:08,359
Speaker 6: in these yeah, and you just have to and if you.

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00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:11,879
Speaker 5: Don't, you don't really deserve to be there. Yeah, it's

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00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:12,520
Speaker 5: that simple.

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00:54:13,080 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 2: Certainly, you know. I love hearing that, right, and certainly

1077
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:20,960
Speaker 2: where Dylan is at in his career, it's great to

1078
00:54:21,080 --> 00:54:21,600
Speaker 2: hear that.

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00:54:21,719 --> 00:54:21,960
Speaker 5: You know.

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00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:25,840
Speaker 2: I just think that it's very challenging to be a

1081
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 2: modern day top ten UFC fighter, but I do believe

1082
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:32,560
Speaker 2: that you almost have to try unless the weight cut

1083
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:34,959
Speaker 2: is just too tough, like an Aljoe of thirty five.

1084
00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 2: But to be ready because the potential for Laren Murphy

1085
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:42,239
Speaker 2: now to spin this whole thing forward by doing something

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00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:45,600
Speaker 2: special against Aaron Pico, whom you know is going to

1087
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:48,359
Speaker 2: be given a lot of opportunities because he deserves them,

1088
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:50,719
Speaker 2: you know. I mean, it's just it's fascinating, but you

1089
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:53,080
Speaker 2: really have to be ready. And I think Corey Sandhagen

1090
00:54:53,160 --> 00:54:54,920
Speaker 2: is going to be ready come October fourth.

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00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:57,080
Speaker 3: And that's a three round Comaine.

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00:54:56,960 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 2: John is I believe it is, Kenny. I believe the

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00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:01,680
Speaker 2: short notice nature of it is going to make that

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00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:04,320
Speaker 2: a a three round affair.

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00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 5: You know.

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00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:06,680
Speaker 6: And the problem too, like what Kenny said for the

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00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:08,640
Speaker 6: guys that they're just training when they have a camp,

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00:55:09,080 --> 00:55:11,840
Speaker 6: when they get those short notices, they're just mentally not

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00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:15,480
Speaker 6: they can't do it like they're mentally so ingrained in that.

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Speaker 6: But like you know, if you're just training, like even

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00:55:18,200 --> 00:55:22,319
Speaker 6: al Joe is always in the gym, he's always teaching somebody,

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00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:25,000
Speaker 6: he could like now mentally he might not want to,

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00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:27,279
Speaker 6: but I'm telling you as a coach, he could jump

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00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:29,960
Speaker 6: with anybody at any time. Yeah, you could see if

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00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:32,239
Speaker 6: that's faring, it's not. There's no, he's not gonna have

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00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:35,000
Speaker 6: a problem now. Mentally he might go, man, I needed

1107
00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:37,120
Speaker 6: to do this, this and that. A lot of guys

1108
00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 6: are I'm not saying superstitious, but they know they have

1109
00:55:40,080 --> 00:55:43,319
Speaker 6: their routines, right. Some guys don't care. But you know,

1110
00:55:43,719 --> 00:55:46,400
Speaker 6: it depends about Algael. I think he going there any

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00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 6: any time with anybody.

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00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:51,719
Speaker 2: Well imagine, I know he holds Vulcan great regard, but

1113
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:54,480
Speaker 2: you're right, Aljo could actually take it a title fight

1114
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 2: against Volcan seventeen days notice at forty You know what

1115
00:55:58,200 --> 00:55:58,400
Speaker 2: I mean.

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00:55:58,440 --> 00:56:01,440
Speaker 6: He said, it's that he's so now he's been around

1117
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 6: so long, and he's so seasoned and he's so intelligent.

1118
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:08,880
Speaker 3: So you know the weight cut isn't as extreme.

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00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:14,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, so it's it's different. But if in this climate,

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Speaker 6: the way the UFC is going, if you're not staying

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00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:19,560
Speaker 6: ready every time, because a lot of times the only

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00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:21,319
Speaker 6: way you could get to where you want to go

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00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:26,759
Speaker 6: is by doing what Murphy's doing, stepping in and saving something. Yeah,

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00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 6: maybe you get a couple of favors and if you

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00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:33,280
Speaker 6: could materialize those favors into what you want, Bingo, you're

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00:56:33,360 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 6: home free.

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00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:34,560
Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 2: Ray Long a minute live on the Anicmploring Podcast. Thanks

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00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:40,560
Speaker 2: to everybody joining us live on YouTube on the DraftKings

1130
00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:43,239
Speaker 2: Network wherever you are watching the show or listening, we

1131
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:46,359
Speaker 2: appreciate that. Ray. Would you rather sleep in a doghouse

1132
00:56:46,480 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 2: or let stray dogs sleep in your bed?

1133
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:55,040
Speaker 5: I love dogs.

1134
00:56:55,400 --> 00:56:58,439
Speaker 6: I'll take the doghouse, though on that one I would

1135
00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:00,920
Speaker 6: be opposed to. I don't think i'd be opposed to either.

1136
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:04,560
Speaker 2: Kenny, obviously, you know, with hip escapes and everything else,

1137
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:06,640
Speaker 2: could probably roll himself up into a nice little ball.

1138
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:08,720
Speaker 2: I know you'd be in the doghouse, Kenny, No strays

1139
00:57:08,719 --> 00:57:09,480
Speaker 2: in your bed? Or what.

1140
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 3: Uh, probably no straight. I'm a little bit of a

1141
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:15,759
Speaker 3: you know, clean freak. So yeah, right, I got going

1142
00:57:15,800 --> 00:57:16,480
Speaker 3: to the doghouse.

1143
00:57:16,520 --> 00:57:23,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, Ray, Would you rather be chronically underdressed or overdressed?

1144
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 5: Overdressed?

1145
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:29,840
Speaker 2: No way, Kenny. Underdressed or overdressed chronically?

1146
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:33,800
Speaker 3: Uh god, I was pretty underdressed. And I went out

1147
00:57:33,840 --> 00:57:35,760
Speaker 3: to dinner last night with my wife and I was

1148
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 3: definitely underdressed. So these days I feel like, you know,

1149
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 3: with the kids and everything, I'm always under dressed. Now

1150
00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:42,680
Speaker 3: I'm just like a slum.

1151
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:47,960
Speaker 2: I'm a certifiable bomb. That's the reason for the question.

1152
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:50,160
Speaker 2: My kids are embarrassed. Like now I'm at least trying

1153
00:57:50,200 --> 00:57:53,720
Speaker 2: to match my pajamas. I wear pants every day.

1154
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 5: You know what it is? Today, I do love underdressing.

1155
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:00,120
Speaker 6: But back in the day when we went out, I

1156
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:02,840
Speaker 6: was in a suit and tie every Friday and Saturday night,

1157
00:58:02,920 --> 00:58:03,960
Speaker 6: so it was it was kind.

1158
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 2: Of that's my work uniform. So that's like a complete

1159
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:08,240
Speaker 2: night my work.

1160
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:10,920
Speaker 6: It was my work uniform too, and it was you

1161
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:13,640
Speaker 6: considered going out on the weekends in Long Island work

1162
00:58:13,720 --> 00:58:16,480
Speaker 6: and I was working pretty damn hard in my suit there.

1163
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:23,440
Speaker 2: Ray, would you rather labor under a hot sun or

1164
00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:24,440
Speaker 2: extreme cold.

1165
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:30,840
Speaker 5: I would rather labor under a hot song.

1166
00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:34,960
Speaker 2: Me too, Kent Flow, Yeah, hot sun, Kenny. Would you

1167
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:37,520
Speaker 2: rather spend a year at war or a year in prison?

1168
00:58:38,200 --> 00:58:39,440
Speaker 3: Oh? War for sure?

1169
00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:42,440
Speaker 5: Yeah? Yeah, I go with war.

1170
00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:46,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I came. I mean the camaraderie and everything, uh,

1171
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:48,960
Speaker 2: and just being able to fight for your country as

1172
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:50,720
Speaker 2: opposed to be in prison. I would hope most people

1173
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:53,080
Speaker 2: would fall on that side of it, right, Ray, would

1174
00:58:53,200 --> 00:59:02,600
Speaker 2: rather be invisible or be able to fly? So meantime,

1175
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:05,400
Speaker 2: Cody's talking about prison camaraderie being under.

1176
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:08,520
Speaker 5: That's true.

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00:59:09,880 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 3: Camaraderie.

1178
00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:15,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, I'll take I'll think being able to.

1179
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:17,800
Speaker 2: Fly, Kenny. Would you rather be able to fly or

1180
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:18,640
Speaker 2: be invisible?

1181
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:24,200
Speaker 5: I always wanted to fly, John oh ship, But don't you.

1182
00:59:24,160 --> 00:59:26,480
Speaker 3: DoD a flying dream, dude?

1183
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:29,560
Speaker 2: I mean, come on, yeah, no, I mean that's fair. Right,

1184
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:32,280
Speaker 2: But if you're invisible, you know you could do a

1185
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:33,320
Speaker 2: lot of different things.

1186
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:36,360
Speaker 5: You know, you can't stop your wrong boy, if you're invisible,

1187
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:41,240
Speaker 5: remember that that's true invisible jiu jitsu?

1188
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:43,800
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, hey, right?

1189
00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:47,320
Speaker 2: Would you rather have a third ear or a third eye?

1190
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:50,880
Speaker 2: These are good today? No, I mean I think these

1191
00:59:50,880 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 2: are pretty good third ear or a third eye right

1192
00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:54,360
Speaker 2: long ago.

1193
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:57,600
Speaker 5: I'm gonna say a third year, Kenny.

1194
00:59:57,840 --> 00:59:59,000
Speaker 3: I'll take a third eye.

1195
00:59:59,400 --> 01:00:02,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, put in the back of my head. I mean,

1196
01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:07,040
Speaker 2: can we give Michael dismantherd I bullet bullet?

1197
01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:10,439
Speaker 5: Wow, he's going straight the hell.

1198
01:00:13,480 --> 01:00:15,840
Speaker 2: That's just my monologue that I'm bringing to the masses.

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01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:20,640
Speaker 2: I love Michael dearly, as do we all. He's my

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01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:23,919
Speaker 2: my broadcast partner in The Naked Gun, which premieres August first.

1201
01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:26,040
Speaker 2: Hopefully people will go out and support the film in theaters.

1202
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:27,920
Speaker 2: I got the premiere tonight, Ray with my daughter in

1203
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:28,640
Speaker 2: New York City.

1204
01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:37,400
Speaker 6: Uh uh, Sarah might be there. He's doing really screening.

1205
01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:41,800
Speaker 5: Uh no, Yo, there's.

1206
01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:44,000
Speaker 2: A premiere, So you tell me. I'm to see Maddie tonight.

1207
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:44,720
Speaker 2: That's amazing.

1208
01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:48,120
Speaker 5: He's definitely seeing that movie this week. I don't know

1209
01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:48,920
Speaker 5: what they said.

1210
01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:51,160
Speaker 2: I bet he'll have a vight pen in his pocket.

1211
01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:56,960
Speaker 2: All right, Hey, Ray, would you rather date someone with

1212
01:00:57,080 --> 01:01:00,240
Speaker 2: bad breath or bad manners? Oh?

1213
01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:02,640
Speaker 5: Oh, I got to tell you. Bad manner is.

1214
01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:09,560
Speaker 2: Kenny. See, I'll be trying to affect change with the

1215
01:01:09,640 --> 01:01:14,840
Speaker 2: bad breath because nothing I can't stand. I I hate

1216
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:17,600
Speaker 2: like tactlessness, like I like people who are tactful and

1217
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:20,160
Speaker 2: have good manners. Please and thank you didn't even begin

1218
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:22,320
Speaker 2: to describe it. So for me, I would, I would?

1219
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:23,479
Speaker 2: I would rather bad breath?

1220
01:01:24,200 --> 01:01:26,959
Speaker 5: Help me. I can't get past a bid breath. Impossible.

1221
01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:31,000
Speaker 3: That's tough. I'm out. I'm out, I'm out, I can't

1222
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:34,080
Speaker 3: I can't answer. All right, acceptable, All right?

1223
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:37,360
Speaker 6: Ray?

1224
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:39,919
Speaker 2: Would you would you rather stay in during a snow

1225
01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:44,000
Speaker 2: day or build a fort? Or in Brazil they might

1226
01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:47,480
Speaker 2: say a fort.

1227
01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:54,320
Speaker 5: A forte man like I build a fort? Yeah?

1228
01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:57,040
Speaker 2: Get outside, Ray and our last and today with the

1229
01:01:57,080 --> 01:02:00,800
Speaker 2: great Ray Longo, who's whose time we respect greatly. Would

1230
01:02:00,800 --> 01:02:05,160
Speaker 2: you rather always have bo, always have body odor and

1231
01:02:05,280 --> 01:02:09,800
Speaker 2: not know it, or always smell bo on everyone else?

1232
01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:15,160
Speaker 5: Wow, that's.

1233
01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:18,760
Speaker 2: It's a terrible question. You don't have to answer that one.

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01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:20,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's a tough one.

1235
01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:24,840
Speaker 2: Hey day, and have a great day in a better evening.

1236
01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:26,880
Speaker 2: We love you. Anything else before we let you go,

1237
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:30,600
Speaker 2: We're out. So it went quickly today. Does that mean

1238
01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:31,440
Speaker 2: you enjoyed yourself?

1239
01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:32,000
Speaker 5: Oh?

1240
01:02:32,120 --> 01:02:35,760
Speaker 6: I always enjoy myself. I'm coming on at eleven next week.

1241
01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:37,520
Speaker 2: All right, we'll see off the top of the show

1242
01:02:37,560 --> 01:02:42,440
Speaker 2: next Monday. Have a great day, guys. Future UFC Hall

1243
01:02:42,440 --> 01:02:44,760
Speaker 2: of Famer Ray Longo coach to the Stars with us

1244
01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:48,280
Speaker 2: here every week dating to twenty fifteen. Would you rather

1245
01:02:48,320 --> 01:02:55,720
Speaker 2: have tele telekittesis? Jesus Christ? Would you rather have telekinesis

1246
01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:58,400
Speaker 2: the ability to move things with your mind? Or telepathy

1247
01:02:58,440 --> 01:02:59,800
Speaker 2: the ability to read minds?

1248
01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:02,400
Speaker 3: Ooh telepathy?

1249
01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:03,720
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1250
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:05,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, minds?

1251
01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:05,440
Speaker 2: Right?

1252
01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:09,440
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah.

1253
01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:13,880
Speaker 2: Would you rather get away with a terrible crime but

1254
01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:17,000
Speaker 2: live in fear of someone discovering it? Who wants that?

1255
01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:19,919
Speaker 2: Or go to prison for three years for a crime

1256
01:03:19,960 --> 01:03:23,240
Speaker 2: you didn't commit? Oh? God, brutal. I'd go to prison

1257
01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:25,760
Speaker 2: for three years for a crime I didn't commit, right,

1258
01:03:26,040 --> 01:03:29,200
Speaker 2: and I would just get absolutely fucking shred sky in

1259
01:03:29,240 --> 01:03:31,880
Speaker 2: prison because and hopefully they don't beat me up or

1260
01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:36,000
Speaker 2: do anything crazy, but doing a terrible crime, like I

1261
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:39,520
Speaker 2: don't want to be the committer of a yeah, terrible question. Maybe,

1262
01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:43,280
Speaker 2: Oh gosh, you don't have to answer.

1263
01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:44,720
Speaker 3: I'm stressed thinking about it.

1264
01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:47,160
Speaker 2: All right, Well, maybe for next week you guys can

1265
01:03:47,200 --> 01:03:49,280
Speaker 2: present me with some of these because I'm happy to answering,

1266
01:03:51,240 --> 01:03:53,080
Speaker 2: all right. Pronunciation of the Week is brought you by

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01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:55,920
Speaker 2: Total Wireless, the official wireless provider of UFC yet unlimited

1268
01:03:55,960 --> 01:04:01,200
Speaker 2: data that will not slow you down. So we got

1269
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Speaker 2: a couple files today. We're going to start with the

1270
01:04:03,840 --> 01:04:07,760
Speaker 2: man whose name I actually uttered on the program earlier today,

1271
01:04:08,520 --> 01:04:11,000
Speaker 2: the man who fought Daniel zel Hoober and won that

1272
01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:16,400
Speaker 2: epic fight of the year at Sphere. So I think

1273
01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:18,720
Speaker 2: actually Rogan suggests that was the best MMA fight he

1274
01:04:18,760 --> 01:04:21,280
Speaker 2: had ever seen. We mentioned number one on topology for

1275
01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:23,520
Speaker 2: fight of the Year in twenty twenty four, thirty fourth

1276
01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:27,200
Speaker 2: greatest lightweight fight of all time, according to them. Kenny

1277
01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:29,600
Speaker 2: first name is like ste bomb. But how do we

1278
01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:35,480
Speaker 2: pronounce this name? Nobody does it better than you. I

1279
01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:37,720
Speaker 2: know this is a repeat. I want to hear it again. Cody,

1280
01:04:37,720 --> 01:04:49,040
Speaker 2: you can bang that file. I don't know you have it.

1281
01:04:51,240 --> 01:04:51,840
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1282
01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:54,120
Speaker 2: So and then Cody, I am going to have you

1283
01:04:54,160 --> 01:04:57,200
Speaker 2: go to this other file. Now, we've played this one before.

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Speaker 2: We had a hard time me and the producers determining

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Speaker 2: this one. Kevin vae Host it looks like right v

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Speaker 2: A L L e j O s He's competing in

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Speaker 2: the featherweight main card opener this weekend UFC Fight Night

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Speaker 2: al Bosi versus Tyra If in fact that main event holds,

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Speaker 2: but Danny Silva versus Kevin vae Hosts or so it looks.

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Speaker 2: But listen to this beautiful man pronounce his name.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Garen Jesus, Gary Mach.

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Speaker 2: Kennedy. Can you say that right? It sounds like.

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Speaker 3: You'll hear the V sound like a B and then

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Speaker 3: the yet in certain regions will be hit. So uh,

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Speaker 3: he's he's got that Argentinian accent going.

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Speaker 5: All right?

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Speaker 2: Here are the new fights as we transition here shortly

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Speaker 2: in about a minute to UFC Fight Night. That is

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Speaker 2: no longer al Bosi versus tyros So. Albozi would moved

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Speaker 2: his flyweight belt with Felipe Bunez. Well, there's some other

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Speaker 2: notables on this fight card, but your new main event

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Speaker 2: is tatsu Ro Tyra versus Hun Song Park. We are

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Speaker 2: some predictions here on whatever this UFC fight night is

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Speaker 2: going to be at that little Apex in Vegas this weekend.

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Speaker 2: Let us get to the main event challenge.

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Speaker 3: The main event challenge time is most.

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Speaker 2: How do you everything possible.

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Speaker 3: To win the main event challenge?

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Speaker 4: John and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 2: Podcast, Chief handicapper for the Anakin Flory Podcast, Big Gun

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Speaker 2: Brian Petrie, give him the big screen, Cody. He's wearing

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Speaker 2: his UPS uniform. That's what's as promised. You're the man.

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Speaker 2: You're just the man. I mean, you're trying to get

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Speaker 2: a contract extension, so broh yeah yeah, So I always

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Speaker 2: want to pick your brain on an mm A topic

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Speaker 2: before we dive right in. And as much as we

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Speaker 2: all in this room love Ryan near de Ritter, because

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Speaker 2: of your long long standing status as an MMA fan,

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Speaker 2: I feel like I would want to ask you about

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Speaker 2: this Stephen Wynn Mohammed Yaya situation of what you think

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01:08:55,920 --> 01:08:59,640
Speaker 2: about all those knockdowns and maybe the lack of an

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Speaker 2: early stoppage there.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean listen, this this goes with me saying

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Speaker 4: I love Jason Herzog. He's one of my favorite referees.

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Speaker 4: I think he's one of the best. Not sure what

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Speaker 4: was going on through his mind and that point, I

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Speaker 4: mean after the fourth one I would have stopped it.

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Speaker 4: After the round one ended where he fell backwards on

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Speaker 4: his arm. That's when you gotta call it. There's a

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Speaker 4: lot of times to call it.

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Speaker 2: I get it.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Yeta tough, he doesn't want to go out in

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Speaker 4: front of his home country. Cool, but the ref's there

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Speaker 4: not to care about that. The ref's there to protect

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Speaker 4: this guy. And then his eyes swelled up. That could

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Speaker 4: be surgery for what for a fight?

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Speaker 6: That?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, he rallied and he looked good. He had that

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Speaker 4: one moment, But is that one moment worth what's gonna

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Speaker 4: happen to you in doubt your career and possibly how

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Speaker 4: many months you're out for surgery. I mean, this guy's

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Speaker 4: through fighting. UFC is not making main event money, so

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Speaker 4: I mean he's gonna be out for a while with that.

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Speaker 4: I uh yeah, listen again, this guy was saying I

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Speaker 4: love Herzel got tweeted about it. Not sure what was

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Speaker 4: going on, but you gotta stop that fight. I mean

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Speaker 4: I would have pulled the trigger after the fourth one.

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Speaker 4: Uh and then especially after round one, I would be like,

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Speaker 4: we're done because the way he fell after that knockdown. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: that's it for me.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean you got to pretend that Steven wins

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Speaker 2: the one rep in the United Arab Emirates or something. Right,

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Speaker 2: My goodness. So we got a pretty lean fight card

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Speaker 2: here at the UFC Apex that has just lost its

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Speaker 2: main event. So we have four selections for you today.

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Speaker 2: We'll start in the featherweight division and Brian, if you

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Speaker 2: do have any thoughts on that new look main event,

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Speaker 2: maybe we take it on the backside. But Kevin, how

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Speaker 2: are we pronouncing this last name? Kevin ken Flow? Kevin right? Well,

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Speaker 2: the k dog Man is a minus four fifty five

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Speaker 2: betting favorite against Danny Silva. Does anybody want to bet

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Speaker 2: on Danny Silva? The twenty eight year old out of

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Speaker 2: Santa Ana, California, trains under Cub Swanson two and zero

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Speaker 2: in the UFC. Had a split decision win over Lucas

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Speaker 2: al Mada earlier this year, but huge underdog this weekend.

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Speaker 2: Brian plus three point fifty taken on the Argentinian by

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Speaker 2: Chekos BP. Who do you love?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: I like this fight. I think this is a good fight.

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Speaker 4: Both guys like to stand up a little bit. Silva

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Speaker 4: has been wrestling will but he's laying a takedown in

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Speaker 4: every single fights going back to the Contender series as well.

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Speaker 3: He's a wild.

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Speaker 4: Rounded guy, but you know he likes the flaunt. He

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Speaker 4: likes Aton's Instagram. His coaches are saying he's got the

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Speaker 4: best hands in the UFC, he's the best backs in

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Speaker 4: the NFC. We have.

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Speaker 3: You have to prove it.

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Speaker 4: He's coming off two split decision wins. Where the Almana fight,

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Speaker 4: I thought he won cleanly, the cool Bott fight, I

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Speaker 4: thought maybe he dropped a little bit right. Coolbot is

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Speaker 4: a tough guy.

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Speaker 3: But we're gonna do with it. But we need more

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Speaker 3: ball than.

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Speaker 4: This guy, there's not a lot of power. He fought

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Speaker 4: Angel Pacheco on the dentistries two hundred and seven strikes, landed,

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Speaker 4: dropped him once, hurt him with numerous times, but he

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Speaker 4: also got hit one hundred and ninety seven times by

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Speaker 4: Jay Host. If I'm saying that right there, Ken Kenz,

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Speaker 4: this dude twenty three, twenty four years old stud he

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Speaker 4: lost his youwn silva? You ever heard of him? Your

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Speaker 4: own silva? And he lost by decision. He get put

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Speaker 4: out right and he's out there reckon dudes. My concern

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Speaker 4: is he is he ready for the takedowns? Is he's

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Speaker 4: ready for a three round war because he usually gets

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Speaker 4: guys out of there. Is he gonna slow down? You know,

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Speaker 4: I don't know that young age with knocking people out recently.

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Speaker 4: Where's the confidence at I'm going to kind of be

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Speaker 4: a sucker here. I'm going to pick for the picks

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Speaker 4: by Jejos. But for my people out there that like

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Speaker 4: to gamble a little bit, right plus three fifty Danny

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Speaker 4: Silva staring at me, that's a dog that I'm gonna

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Speaker 4: be looking at come Saturday.

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Speaker 5: For sure.

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Speaker 2: El Chino Bachekos or whatever we are saying is only

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Speaker 2: twenty three years of age fifteen to one Kenny as

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Speaker 2: a pro and yeah, as BP mentioned, only pro loss

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Speaker 2: on the Scorecards season seven at Dana Wat's Contender Series

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Speaker 2: against Jean Lord Silva, who do you have in this

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01:12:34,680 --> 01:12:36,400
Speaker 2: featherweight opener on the main car Templop.

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Speaker 3: I think if this fight stays on the feet, this

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Speaker 3: could be a classic. I think it will be very,

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Speaker 3: very entertaining for the fans. Danny Silva's tough man, He's

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Speaker 3: got a good chin. He likes to strike as well.

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Speaker 3: Does he have the speed, the power, of the slickness

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Speaker 3: of someone like Bajejos. I don't think so. I think

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Speaker 3: Kevin's going to be a little slicker there. But Brian

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Speaker 3: spot On, I think Danny Silva wins his fight by

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01:13:02,320 --> 01:13:05,599
Speaker 3: utilizing his wrestling game, trying to put Bajejos on his

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01:13:05,640 --> 01:13:07,439
Speaker 3: on his back. I think he's just a blue belt

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01:13:07,439 --> 01:13:11,280
Speaker 3: in Brazilian jujitsu, so not as experience on the ground.

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Speaker 3: That's that's something I think a wrestler can really expose,

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Speaker 3: I believe, and we haven't seen too much of it

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Speaker 3: from uh Budget Hoos. He's pretty good at getting back

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01:13:19,280 --> 01:13:21,840
Speaker 3: to his feet, but again, actually grappling on the ground,

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01:13:21,880 --> 01:13:25,439
Speaker 3: that's where he's vulnerable. But while I see some value

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Speaker 3: on Danny Silva, for sure, I think Bajetos is going

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01:13:30,160 --> 01:13:32,320
Speaker 3: to lure Danny Silva into a stand up fight.

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Speaker 2: All right, nicely done, fellas. Next matchup pits welterweight veterans

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01:13:36,840 --> 01:13:39,960
Speaker 2: against one another, Elazils. Let's get Osantos Monus two oh

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Speaker 2: five Neil Magni plus one seventy By the way, credit

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Speaker 2: where credits do? When I mentioned that d rod got

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Speaker 2: magneed several fights to go on the air, that's from

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Speaker 2: VP big gun, always always looking up. So Patras do

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Speaker 2: Santos eleven to five and one in the UFC. He's

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Speaker 2: been ranked before, but just one went over his last

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Speaker 2: four fights. A lot of sort of weird circumstances in

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01:14:01,720 --> 01:14:03,840
Speaker 2: his UFC career at times. He'll be thirty nine in

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Speaker 2: November and now, of course Brian John a guy with

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Speaker 2: more welth weight wins in the UFC than one, George

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Speaker 2: Saint Pierre, than kamar Usman and everybody else out. Neil Magni,

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Speaker 2: what do you making the one seventy years? Probably go ahead?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean when sometimes when I see lines early

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01:14:18,560 --> 01:14:20,719
Speaker 4: one jumps out of me. Last week is Tabitha Ricci

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Speaker 4: at plus one forty. I thought that was crazy, nabbed

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01:14:23,160 --> 01:14:26,240
Speaker 4: her up. This Neil magne Line is jumping out at me. Yeah,

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01:14:26,280 --> 01:14:27,880
Speaker 4: he's lost his last two by knock up, but look

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01:14:27,880 --> 01:14:30,000
Speaker 4: who he's fighting. He's lost three of his last four,

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01:14:30,040 --> 01:14:32,880
Speaker 4: but Ian Gary Colors, Proctest, Michael Morales, all those guys

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01:14:32,880 --> 01:14:34,719
Speaker 4: are gonna fight for a title one day, Like right,

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01:14:34,800 --> 01:14:36,160
Speaker 4: those are okay, But he has a win in there

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01:14:36,160 --> 01:14:39,000
Speaker 4: against Mike Malot, Like that's a solid win. I think

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01:14:39,040 --> 01:14:41,760
Speaker 4: Neil Magni when he's on, when he's performing, he can

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Speaker 4: do well. Dosanto's coming off and loss as well against

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Speaker 4: BEng Bang, Cindy and Jiguani which he got knocked out.

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Speaker 4: But you know, I think Dos Santos really has one

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Speaker 4: path of victory here, and that's the land. Something crazy

1493
01:14:52,120 --> 01:14:53,840
Speaker 4: to hurt Neil. He's got some good hands, but his

1494
01:14:53,920 --> 01:14:56,559
Speaker 4: kicks are obviously dnamite. His spinning stuff's great. He comes

1495
01:14:56,600 --> 01:14:58,640
Speaker 4: in good shape. He's pretty thick, four in seventy. But

1496
01:14:58,720 --> 01:15:00,920
Speaker 4: Neil knows how to just real kind of slow the

1497
01:15:00,960 --> 01:15:03,240
Speaker 4: pace and let you fight the way he wants to fight,

1498
01:15:03,479 --> 01:15:06,720
Speaker 4: especially if he's on, hopefully his confidence is back. I

1499
01:15:06,760 --> 01:15:09,720
Speaker 4: think somebody's getting Neil Magni this week, and that's here.

1500
01:15:09,840 --> 01:15:11,640
Speaker 4: I like Neil Magnie a post one Sevni. I liked

1501
01:15:11,640 --> 01:15:14,120
Speaker 4: the dog money here. I'm feeling it. I liked it early.

1502
01:15:14,200 --> 01:15:15,040
Speaker 4: I'm gonna ride with him.

1503
01:15:15,760 --> 01:15:18,200
Speaker 2: You don't want to get Neil Magnet out there. Twenty

1504
01:15:18,240 --> 01:15:20,280
Speaker 2: two people in the UFC can flow of God. So

1505
01:15:20,360 --> 01:15:23,040
Speaker 2: looking Neil Magni to cross his thirty four UFC appearances.

1506
01:15:23,040 --> 01:15:25,400
Speaker 2: He has just one win spanning his last four, was

1507
01:15:25,439 --> 01:15:27,720
Speaker 2: knocked out by Carlos Protests of course round one. That

1508
01:15:27,800 --> 01:15:29,599
Speaker 2: was his last UFC appearance. It was actually a main

1509
01:15:29,640 --> 01:15:34,040
Speaker 2: event last November and happy early birthday. Neil Magni turns

1510
01:15:34,080 --> 01:15:36,479
Speaker 2: thirty eighth the day after the fight. Can flow who

1511
01:15:36,520 --> 01:15:37,320
Speaker 2: were back in here?

1512
01:15:38,360 --> 01:15:41,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is a very interesting fight. I think that

1513
01:15:42,280 --> 01:15:45,800
Speaker 3: what Brian said is extremely valid. Neil Magni, if he's

1514
01:15:45,800 --> 01:15:48,800
Speaker 3: on his game, can give anybody trouble, especially if you

1515
01:15:48,840 --> 01:15:50,680
Speaker 3: get that jab going. I think that's kind of the

1516
01:15:50,680 --> 01:15:53,400
Speaker 3: big indicator for me. If he has that thing going early,

1517
01:15:53,880 --> 01:15:57,840
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get nervous. Why because I like Alseaio's Aleskitos

1518
01:15:57,880 --> 01:16:01,000
Speaker 3: Santos here. I think his speed, his leg kicking game,

1519
01:16:01,680 --> 01:16:04,160
Speaker 3: that's gotta be on point. He's got to destroy that

1520
01:16:04,280 --> 01:16:07,240
Speaker 3: lead leg of Magni. That's where Magni is also vulnerable

1521
01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:09,200
Speaker 3: because he does put some weight on that lead leg

1522
01:16:09,240 --> 01:16:11,599
Speaker 3: and likes to jab. I think that's where the Brazilian

1523
01:16:11,640 --> 01:16:17,040
Speaker 3: can take advantage and slow Magni down. And I think that,

1524
01:16:18,080 --> 01:16:20,559
Speaker 3: you know, because Do Santos is a little bit lowered

1525
01:16:20,560 --> 01:16:23,120
Speaker 3: to the ground, some of the takedowns that Magni goes for,

1526
01:16:23,200 --> 01:16:25,719
Speaker 3: it might be difficult for him to employ that. That's

1527
01:16:25,760 --> 01:16:27,639
Speaker 3: where I think Magni could have the advantage of also

1528
01:16:27,720 --> 01:16:31,800
Speaker 3: putting the Brazilian on his back. But I like Elzeos

1529
01:16:31,840 --> 01:16:34,400
Speaker 3: Alesti de Santos. I think his athleticism is going to

1530
01:16:34,439 --> 01:16:36,519
Speaker 3: come into play here and I think he'll he'll win

1531
01:16:36,560 --> 01:16:40,280
Speaker 3: a decision, but I'll be nervous if that job starts

1532
01:16:40,320 --> 01:16:41,880
Speaker 3: to land early in that flight for Magnu.

1533
01:16:42,360 --> 01:16:46,280
Speaker 2: So I'm just a little bit underslept, and so popping

1534
01:16:46,320 --> 01:16:49,120
Speaker 2: into my head is this fighter Stephen Cooslo, who I

1535
01:16:49,120 --> 01:16:51,240
Speaker 2: think maybe has the worst nickname in the UFC history,

1536
01:16:51,320 --> 01:16:54,240
Speaker 2: like Obi Juan Kenobi the Pillow or something. It was

1537
01:16:54,280 --> 01:16:56,559
Speaker 2: like the stupidest thing I had ever heard, right, look

1538
01:16:56,600 --> 01:17:00,920
Speaker 2: it up. Right, So Elizios Aleski Doo Santos's nickname is Copa, right,

1539
01:17:01,120 --> 01:17:03,280
Speaker 2: and we all have respect for that great art, but

1540
01:17:03,320 --> 01:17:05,559
Speaker 2: that's sort of a weird nickname, right, Like imagine if

1541
01:17:05,560 --> 01:17:09,519
Speaker 2: it was like like Kenny boxing Floria, like you know,

1542
01:17:09,680 --> 01:17:13,360
Speaker 2: like jiu jitsu John Anick or something like what are

1543
01:17:13,400 --> 01:17:16,400
Speaker 2: we doing jiu jitsu John? I mean that certainly would

1544
01:17:16,400 --> 01:17:19,880
Speaker 2: not be my nickname. That's a terrible, terrible martial art

1545
01:17:19,920 --> 01:17:23,439
Speaker 2: for me, you know, But like it is interesting, like

1546
01:17:23,680 --> 01:17:28,240
Speaker 2: La Zoo Capa is a Leski dos Santos sort of interesting,

1547
01:17:28,280 --> 01:17:38,400
Speaker 2: you know, like La Zoo Brazilian jiu jitsus Brian soccer. Yeah,

1548
01:17:39,600 --> 01:17:44,440
Speaker 2: you know, like ballad. I'm very tired, but like Valentina

1549
01:17:44,560 --> 01:17:48,520
Speaker 2: muy tai check in care.

1550
01:17:48,680 --> 01:17:50,439
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not going to disrespect it, but it's

1551
01:17:50,560 --> 01:17:53,800
Speaker 4: it's it's dance fighting, is what it is. It's not

1552
01:17:53,880 --> 01:17:56,480
Speaker 4: even like high level stuff.

1553
01:17:56,479 --> 01:18:00,640
Speaker 2: Right, it's Stephen Obi Jan Shanobi, the pillow, Like, what

1554
01:18:00,760 --> 01:18:02,880
Speaker 2: what the fuck are we doing? We're trying to get

1555
01:18:03,120 --> 01:18:05,439
Speaker 2: we trying to get we try to get, trying to

1556
01:18:05,479 --> 01:18:08,120
Speaker 2: get cut by the UFC like right when we decide,

1557
01:18:08,439 --> 01:18:09,880
Speaker 2: All right, God?

1558
01:18:10,000 --> 01:18:10,920
Speaker 3: Three nicknames?

1559
01:18:11,200 --> 01:18:11,400
Speaker 5: Ok?

1560
01:18:12,120 --> 01:18:15,679
Speaker 3: From Star Wars? Do you guys from the game Kill

1561
01:18:15,720 --> 01:18:16,280
Speaker 3: the Pillows?

1562
01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:19,920
Speaker 4: Do you remember Corey Anderson's first nickname Wasn't it like

1563
01:18:20,160 --> 01:18:21,800
Speaker 4: five twenty five.

1564
01:18:21,720 --> 01:18:25,679
Speaker 2: Over time amazing? No, it was Beaston twenty five eight there,

1565
01:18:25,880 --> 01:18:29,920
Speaker 2: and it's much better than overtime. Yeah, beast in twenty

1566
01:18:30,400 --> 01:18:34,800
Speaker 2: twenty five eight is in my kid's vernacular because of it, Corey. No,

1567
01:18:35,080 --> 01:18:40,120
Speaker 2: he got rid of an objectively amazing nickname, Corey Beaston

1568
01:18:40,360 --> 01:18:43,760
Speaker 2: twenty five eight Anderson, And it's like perfect for him

1569
01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:48,280
Speaker 2: because he works so goddamn hard. He's literally beasting four

1570
01:18:48,360 --> 01:18:50,760
Speaker 2: hours than there are in the fucking day and more

1571
01:18:50,920 --> 01:18:55,920
Speaker 2: days than the week. Time I goes for manipulating time

1572
01:18:55,960 --> 01:18:59,920
Speaker 2: to be like overtime. Congratul to Corey on a big win.

1573
01:19:00,439 --> 01:19:02,679
Speaker 2: Reports are he made eight hundred thousand dollars to show

1574
01:19:02,840 --> 01:19:07,320
Speaker 2: I ad Esteban Ribevis minus two seventy eight. Another argent

1575
01:19:07,360 --> 01:19:09,920
Speaker 2: time here Esteban Ribevicks minus two to seventy eight, taken

1576
01:19:09,920 --> 01:19:12,559
Speaker 2: on the Brazilian Elvis Brenner who comes back plus two

1577
01:19:12,680 --> 01:19:16,439
Speaker 2: twenty five. Dude, Ribavis bry is a monster man like

1578
01:19:16,960 --> 01:19:19,040
Speaker 2: best of luck at one hundred and fifty five pounds

1579
01:19:19,040 --> 01:19:22,160
Speaker 2: for all these guys in the top thirty durable hard

1580
01:19:22,240 --> 01:19:26,080
Speaker 2: hitter uh split decision loss to nash Rat hack Press.

1581
01:19:26,479 --> 01:19:29,080
Speaker 2: Very exciting fight in the Apex that was March first.

1582
01:19:29,320 --> 01:19:33,000
Speaker 2: Many people, including myself, thought Ribevis won that fight. Yeah,

1583
01:19:33,479 --> 01:19:36,200
Speaker 2: Now he takes on shoot Box Academy's Elvis Brenner BP

1584
01:19:36,360 --> 01:19:37,040
Speaker 2: go ahead.

1585
01:19:37,000 --> 01:19:40,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, Rubens, I think would have if he just really

1586
01:19:40,120 --> 01:19:42,000
Speaker 4: cleans up that takeo on offence, he is going to

1587
01:19:42,040 --> 01:19:44,919
Speaker 4: be a motherfucker because how burs Land a few takedowns

1588
01:19:45,000 --> 01:19:46,759
Speaker 4: they were kind of worthless. But I think the judges

1589
01:19:47,120 --> 01:19:48,600
Speaker 4: lean on that a little bit in a scorecards. I

1590
01:19:48,600 --> 01:19:50,240
Speaker 4: thought he won that fight as well. But you know

1591
01:19:50,360 --> 01:19:51,880
Speaker 4: his early as debut in the US, he got taken

1592
01:19:51,920 --> 01:19:55,280
Speaker 4: out eleven times. This needs to be improved. But my goodness,

1593
01:19:55,360 --> 01:19:57,839
Speaker 4: this dude can take a shot, he can give a shot,

1594
01:19:58,000 --> 01:20:00,519
Speaker 4: he can get up from the canvas. He doesn't get tired,

1595
01:20:00,560 --> 01:20:03,600
Speaker 4: he doesn't get discouraged. And I slept on him a

1596
01:20:03,600 --> 01:20:05,040
Speaker 4: little bit. I'm not gonna lie I slept him a

1597
01:20:05,040 --> 01:20:07,040
Speaker 4: little bit. I loaded up on zel Huber. I bet

1598
01:20:07,160 --> 01:20:09,080
Speaker 4: him again some numerous times of fights, but This guy's

1599
01:20:09,080 --> 01:20:11,519
Speaker 4: the real deal. This is what you have at MMA

1600
01:20:11,680 --> 01:20:14,280
Speaker 4: is when these skills his skills, because he's working, When

1601
01:20:14,280 --> 01:20:16,599
Speaker 4: these skills start catching up with his toughness through his heart,

1602
01:20:16,640 --> 01:20:18,639
Speaker 4: with his card deal, he's going to be a problem.

1603
01:20:18,640 --> 01:20:20,679
Speaker 4: And that's right around the corner. He's getting a guy

1604
01:20:20,680 --> 01:20:22,120
Speaker 4: and Brenner who I think is coming off a pretty

1605
01:20:22,200 --> 01:20:24,599
Speaker 4: ugly loss, even though with a high level loss, pretty

1606
01:20:24,640 --> 01:20:26,800
Speaker 4: ugly loss. He looked listless in that fight. He looked

1607
01:20:26,840 --> 01:20:28,920
Speaker 4: like he didn't know really exactly what his game plan was.

1608
01:20:29,320 --> 01:20:32,000
Speaker 4: He's he's an aggressive fighter, but I think he's gonna

1609
01:20:32,040 --> 01:20:34,439
Speaker 4: run into something to Reebicks here. I like Rubbicks a lot.

1610
01:20:34,439 --> 01:20:36,320
Speaker 4: I wish it was a little bit of a lower number,

1611
01:20:36,479 --> 01:20:39,200
Speaker 4: but I get it. Vegas is smart price in this.

1612
01:20:39,439 --> 01:20:41,599
Speaker 4: He might even go up to minus three hundred come

1613
01:20:41,640 --> 01:20:43,320
Speaker 4: fight night, but I like Rubbicks here.

1614
01:20:43,320 --> 01:20:46,160
Speaker 2: Big ken Flier. The underdog is Elvis Brenner plus two

1615
01:20:46,240 --> 01:20:50,559
Speaker 2: twenty five. He ends a three hundred and sixty four

1616
01:20:50,680 --> 01:20:53,080
Speaker 2: day layoff here at the Apex Withdrew from a scheduled

1617
01:20:53,080 --> 01:20:55,400
Speaker 2: matchup with Daniel zel Hooper back in March. Pretty strong

1618
01:20:55,439 --> 01:20:58,760
Speaker 2: strength of schedule, a lot of tough stylistic matchups. He

1619
01:20:58,800 --> 01:21:01,320
Speaker 2: has lost two in a row, two muck tobeck Orrobai

1620
01:21:01,400 --> 01:21:03,400
Speaker 2: and Joel Alvarez. What do you make of this one here,

1621
01:21:03,439 --> 01:21:06,240
Speaker 2: Brenner and Ribevic's at one fifty five.

1622
01:21:06,840 --> 01:21:09,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, No, Brenner's had a long layoff. A lot can

1623
01:21:09,720 --> 01:21:12,920
Speaker 3: change in the year, who knows. But at the core,

1624
01:21:13,280 --> 01:21:15,479
Speaker 3: the fighter that you are is the fire that you are,

1625
01:21:15,520 --> 01:21:18,120
Speaker 3: and I think that Brian is pretty spot on. I

1626
01:21:18,439 --> 01:21:20,560
Speaker 3: think that he's going to kind of go back to

1627
01:21:20,680 --> 01:21:22,479
Speaker 3: kind of brawling a little bit and being a little

1628
01:21:22,479 --> 01:21:27,040
Speaker 3: bit chaotic, and that only lends itself, you know, to

1629
01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:29,719
Speaker 3: be a great fight, but more importantly a good fight

1630
01:21:29,800 --> 01:21:36,680
Speaker 3: for the Argentinian Ribovics. I think that Estebond is just

1631
01:21:36,720 --> 01:21:39,720
Speaker 3: a whirlwind man. His chin is legendary, I think at

1632
01:21:39,760 --> 01:21:44,640
Speaker 3: this point, and I think he's going to be in

1633
01:21:44,640 --> 01:21:47,519
Speaker 3: a fight where it just favors him. I think he's

1634
01:21:47,760 --> 01:21:50,680
Speaker 3: he hits harder, I think he's stronger. I think he

1635
01:21:50,800 --> 01:21:54,480
Speaker 3: is conditioning is tremendous. So give me Ribovics.

1636
01:21:55,520 --> 01:21:57,479
Speaker 2: All right, let's get to the co main event, and

1637
01:21:57,520 --> 01:21:59,920
Speaker 2: it's also at lightweight, and I do wonder if promotion

1638
01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:02,600
Speaker 2: only they considered making this the main event, right, And

1639
01:22:02,640 --> 01:22:05,200
Speaker 2: I'm a broken record when it comes to the underserved

1640
01:22:05,240 --> 01:22:06,000
Speaker 2: lightweight division.

1641
01:22:06,040 --> 01:22:06,120
Speaker 5: Right.

1642
01:22:06,160 --> 01:22:08,040
Speaker 2: We should be doing one hundred and fifty five pound

1643
01:22:08,120 --> 01:22:13,439
Speaker 2: main events all the time. And I understand Tatsuro tires

1644
01:22:13,439 --> 01:22:15,439
Speaker 2: the man on the marquee here, right, and to keep

1645
01:22:15,520 --> 01:22:18,280
Speaker 2: it that way I think is just cleaner. But you know,

1646
01:22:18,520 --> 01:22:21,719
Speaker 2: don't tell me that Mattaw's round Beski and Chris Duncan

1647
01:22:21,760 --> 01:22:26,800
Speaker 2: are small names and like undeserving of getting that type

1648
01:22:26,840 --> 01:22:30,479
Speaker 2: of promotion on short notice because they are round Betsky

1649
01:22:31,040 --> 01:22:33,360
Speaker 2: and Duncan both four and one of the UFC round

1650
01:22:33,360 --> 01:22:36,559
Speaker 2: Betsky minus two oh five bry Duncan plus one seventy.

1651
01:22:37,439 --> 01:22:39,680
Speaker 2: If it's not Scottish, it's crap. Who do you have

1652
01:22:39,720 --> 01:22:40,200
Speaker 2: in the coment?

1653
01:22:41,200 --> 01:22:42,920
Speaker 4: I can't believe how many times I said if you're

1654
01:22:42,920 --> 01:22:44,599
Speaker 4: not Dutch or not much this weekend with the RDR

1655
01:22:44,600 --> 01:22:47,160
Speaker 4: because I had money on Oudia. I love this way.

1656
01:22:47,240 --> 01:22:47,519
Speaker 3: I agree.

1657
01:22:47,560 --> 01:22:48,840
Speaker 4: I thought they were rid of a moomp this main event.

1658
01:22:48,880 --> 01:22:51,120
Speaker 4: I think both guys are underappreciated. I think Chris Duncan

1659
01:22:51,400 --> 01:22:54,320
Speaker 4: has really came into his own man like two guillotine wins.

1660
01:22:54,520 --> 01:22:56,559
Speaker 4: This is a guy who was just a brawler, right,

1661
01:22:56,680 --> 01:22:59,040
Speaker 4: who went out there in scratt get clipped. Who cares,

1662
01:22:59,040 --> 01:23:01,759
Speaker 4: I'm gonna clip you back yet. Yeah, he's got some grappling.

1663
01:23:01,800 --> 01:23:03,720
Speaker 4: He's tough. He's in shape too. He's big for this

1664
01:23:03,840 --> 01:23:07,360
Speaker 4: vision and Ron Besky, this guy ran into Diago Farrar.

1665
01:23:07,520 --> 01:23:09,720
Speaker 4: I think he was like, oh shit, okay, this is

1666
01:23:10,160 --> 01:23:12,320
Speaker 4: the level I'm at and then comes back and puts

1667
01:23:12,320 --> 01:23:15,120
Speaker 4: on a performance again mucked up or by who is

1668
01:23:15,200 --> 01:23:17,240
Speaker 4: a stud I mean that kid, that guy's really good.

1669
01:23:17,280 --> 01:23:19,120
Speaker 4: We just saw what he did, so I think Ron

1670
01:23:19,160 --> 01:23:21,519
Speaker 4: Besky is a real deal. I do have his grappling.

1671
01:23:21,560 --> 01:23:23,080
Speaker 4: I mean, I wish his arms are a little longer.

1672
01:23:23,080 --> 01:23:25,960
Speaker 4: It would help his striking out because he's powerful, but

1673
01:23:26,040 --> 01:23:27,400
Speaker 4: he s there's nothing he can do about that, right,

1674
01:23:27,400 --> 01:23:29,400
Speaker 4: He's guys to learn how to close the distance better.

1675
01:23:29,720 --> 01:23:30,120
Speaker 3: Duncan.

1676
01:23:30,479 --> 01:23:33,759
Speaker 4: His first instinct is to strike, but then he's learning

1677
01:23:33,800 --> 01:23:36,679
Speaker 4: to grapple himself. But I'm wondering how good his defensive

1678
01:23:36,680 --> 01:23:39,360
Speaker 4: grappling is. He did just get submitted three fights ago.

1679
01:23:39,640 --> 01:23:41,920
Speaker 4: He's obviously still work in progress. He's got a nice record.

1680
01:23:42,080 --> 01:23:43,800
Speaker 4: I believe he's in Florida training. I'm not sure if

1681
01:23:43,800 --> 01:23:46,160
Speaker 4: he's a kill Cliff for American Top Team. Either way,

1682
01:23:46,240 --> 01:23:49,040
Speaker 4: He's with a really good camp, and I can see

1683
01:23:49,120 --> 01:23:51,160
Speaker 4: value on Duncan at plus one seventy. I'm not walked

1684
01:23:51,200 --> 01:23:53,320
Speaker 4: away from that, but I am a believer in Ron Besky.

1685
01:23:53,320 --> 01:23:54,080
Speaker 3: I do like him a lot.

1686
01:23:54,120 --> 01:23:56,880
Speaker 4: I bet him in his tire UFC career. He's done

1687
01:23:56,880 --> 01:23:58,720
Speaker 4: me well so far, and I just think when he

1688
01:23:58,760 --> 01:24:01,360
Speaker 4: gets on top, which would which he will, He's going

1689
01:24:01,439 --> 01:24:03,200
Speaker 4: to be a problem with the ground, ground and pound,

1690
01:24:03,200 --> 01:24:04,640
Speaker 4: and that's going to open up a neck and I

1691
01:24:04,680 --> 01:24:07,160
Speaker 4: see round Beskie winning by submission Ken Flow.

1692
01:24:07,280 --> 01:24:10,000
Speaker 2: It is American Top Team for Chris Duncan. He's got

1693
01:24:10,000 --> 01:24:12,200
Speaker 2: all the best resources down there in terms of training,

1694
01:24:12,240 --> 01:24:14,720
Speaker 2: partners and coaches. Another guys I mentioned for in one

1695
01:24:14,760 --> 01:24:17,880
Speaker 2: of the UFC Striker by Trey BJJ purple belt back

1696
01:24:17,920 --> 01:24:21,400
Speaker 2: to back wins by guillotine, and it's plus one seventy

1697
01:24:21,400 --> 01:24:23,400
Speaker 2: next to the name Duncan monus two five for around

1698
01:24:23,400 --> 01:24:24,639
Speaker 2: Betsky Can Flow. Who do you love?

1699
01:24:25,000 --> 01:24:27,040
Speaker 3: Yeah? And Chris has been grinding over there to att

1700
01:24:27,240 --> 01:24:29,439
Speaker 3: for a long time now, and that was a factor

1701
01:24:29,479 --> 01:24:31,800
Speaker 3: that I considered. But when I look at where they're

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Speaker 3: at or what I've seen so far, guys, I just

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Speaker 3: think that ron Beski is better everywhere. You know, maybe

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Speaker 3: not by a whole lot, but I just think he's

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Speaker 3: better everywhere. I think he hits harder. I think he's

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Speaker 3: a little bit more athletic. I think he's faster. I

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01:24:45,800 --> 01:24:48,760
Speaker 3: think he's the better grappler, and I do think he

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Speaker 3: throws kind of better strikes overall. So and he's got

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Speaker 3: more experience. So I mean, how do I go against that?

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Speaker 3: I do think Duncan can win this fight. Yeah, but

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Speaker 3: I'm with uh, is it Matouch best?

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Speaker 2: Yes? So in nineteen ninety nine, I'm doing this Washington

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Speaker 2: journalism semester at American University, and there's a dutch Man

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Speaker 2: in my class who became one of my best friends

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Speaker 2: in that particular time in my life. His name was

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Speaker 2: Stephan Simons, and first dad I met him, he's like,

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Speaker 2: if you ain't Dutch, you ain't much.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 2: I'm from Holland if you ain't Dutch, you ain't much,

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Speaker 2: you know. And I sort of adopted that into my vernacular.

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Speaker 2: And then of course you heard me say, if it's

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Speaker 2: mean to the German guy in the class, like because

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Speaker 2: he was German, you know. I was like, oh, I'm

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Speaker 2: pretty ignorant here, twenty one year old. I'm just trying

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Speaker 2: to find a bag we even, you know, And I

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Speaker 2: floor is yours.

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Speaker 4: So I was, I was, I was close last week.

1739
01:26:12,200 --> 01:26:14,320
Speaker 4: I hit my parlay sha almost and in the second

1740
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Speaker 4: round ran out the time. In the third round, I

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Speaker 4: hit the other two legs. That's what a parlay is, right,

1742
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Speaker 4: I'm out a part leg. I'm gonna go back to

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Speaker 4: my roots. I'm gonna go back to just something that

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Speaker 4: I felt. And again someone's getting Neil Magni this week,

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Speaker 4: and I believe it. I'm going Neil Magni thousand bucks.

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Speaker 4: Let's go, well, try and double that up. I need it,

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Speaker 4: I need plus money. It was either that around Beskie

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Speaker 4: by submission and I'm I'm afraid that's not gonna be

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Speaker 4: a won't be as good as Neil Magnia A plus

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Speaker 4: one seventy. So give me a Neil Magnie.

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Speaker 2: Nicely done, Bruh, can't flow a thousand bucks. UFC Fight

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Speaker 2: Night looks like it's gonna be ty reversus Park. How

1753
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Speaker 2: you spending your money?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm keeping it simple as well. I'm going thousand

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Speaker 3: dollars on run. Beski whoa nice.

1756
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Speaker 4: Absolutely. Johnny the fighter that I sponsored, Hunter Fraser is

1761
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Speaker 4: going pro. He's making his pro debut this Saturday at

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Speaker 4: Mega Corporavillion out of Newport by, Ohio Combat League. The best,

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Speaker 4: guys right now, and they're They're fantastic and I'm super

1765
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Speaker 4: excited for Hunter. I met up with him a few

1766
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Speaker 4: weeks but I had some old gloves I gave him.

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Speaker 4: We're not old gloves, gloves that were new. That gave

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Speaker 4: them to help them with his journey. He's ready, man,

1769
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Speaker 4: he's locked in. He's fucking jacked, and uh yeah, I

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Speaker 4: can't wait, man, So go down to Newport Million. I

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Speaker 4: will be there Mega Corporavillion doors open at six, Fights

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Speaker 4: at seven. Let's go gives with Brian Petrie. Yeah, hugs

1773
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Speaker 4: and high fives and let's go Hunter Fraser get it done.

1774
01:27:43,080 --> 01:27:45,400
Speaker 4: Great job by your parents picking your first name, Hunter,

1775
01:27:46,439 --> 01:27:48,360
Speaker 4: have a great data, better even thanks for showing up.

1776
01:27:48,360 --> 01:27:49,880
Speaker 2: What can Brown do for you? You look great?

1777
01:27:50,320 --> 01:27:51,759
Speaker 4: Hopefully I delivered today.

1778
01:27:51,840 --> 01:27:57,600
Speaker 2: John There he is. Brian Peatree with us for the

1779
01:27:57,680 --> 01:27:59,560
Speaker 2: main event challenge and place your bets. All right, we

1780
01:27:59,560 --> 01:28:01,360
Speaker 2: got to get on out of here. Thanks to everybody

1781
01:28:01,360 --> 01:28:03,599
Speaker 2: for indulging us. Live right back at it next week

1782
01:28:03,600 --> 01:28:07,360
Speaker 2: and we'll sort of assess this UFC chaos at the Apex,

1783
01:28:07,400 --> 01:28:10,000
Speaker 2: see how it goes down in the main event. Certainly,

1784
01:28:10,040 --> 01:28:12,320
Speaker 2: I think with those two athletes, there's the potential for

1785
01:28:12,479 --> 01:28:14,880
Speaker 2: a finish, but even over three rounds, I just would

1786
01:28:14,880 --> 01:28:17,760
Speaker 2: have liked to have seen Rond Betsky and Duncan get

1787
01:28:17,800 --> 01:28:20,639
Speaker 2: the showcase. Thank you to Ray Long, go to Brian Petrie.

1788
01:28:20,680 --> 01:28:23,519
Speaker 2: Thank you to our executive producer Cody Merrow, Jason Anna

1789
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Speaker 2: putting it all together behind the scenes for Ken Fulum,

1790
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Speaker 2: John and We will talk to you next Monday. Until then,

1791
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Speaker 2: have a great week. You'll later