WEBVTT - Episode Two: Once Upon a Diet

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<v Speaker 1>It is in consequence of this powerful force of habit,

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<v Speaker 1>that of late. Indeed, during my own lifetime and memory,

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<v Speaker 1>three evil customs have gradually gained foothold in our own Italy.

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<v Speaker 1>The first of these is adulation and ceremony, the second

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<v Speaker 1>is hersy, and the third is the intemperance. You're listening

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<v Speaker 1>to the words of an Italian merchant named Luigi Cornaro,

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<v Speaker 1>voice by an actor, because Luigi himself died in fifteen

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<v Speaker 1>sixty six, and if there was one thing that Luigi

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<v Speaker 1>was really into, it was his diet. He calls eating

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<v Speaker 1>too much that evil, and the fact that it's so

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<v Speaker 1>common a wicked thing, and yet society at the time

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't treat it that way. Over eating is exalted as

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<v Speaker 1>a virtuous thing and even as a mark of distinction,

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<v Speaker 1>while temperance, also known as moderate eating, is stigmatized and

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<v Speaker 1>scorned as dishonorable and as befitting the miserly alone. Luigi

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<v Speaker 1>is sort of the original diet guru. What you're hearing

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<v Speaker 1>is the beginning of his book The Art of Living Long.

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<v Speaker 1>In it, he points out that overeating is gluttony, a

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<v Speaker 1>literal sin. He's arguing that eating less is not just better,

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<v Speaker 1>but also more moral. He says that men are abandoning

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<v Speaker 1>the path of virtue, following one advice e roade, which

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<v Speaker 1>leads them, though they see it not to strange and

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<v Speaker 1>fatal chronic infirmities through which they grow pre maturely old.

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<v Speaker 1>Before they reach the age of forty, their health has

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<v Speaker 1>been completely worn out. Basically, Luigi is saying that people

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<v Speaker 1>are over eating their way into an early grave. But

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<v Speaker 1>he actually says men because again it is the hundreds

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<v Speaker 1>wretched and unhappy Italy. Canst thou not see that intemperance

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<v Speaker 1>kills every year amongst the people as great a number

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<v Speaker 1>as would perish during the time of a most dreadful pestilence,

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<v Speaker 1>or by the sword or fire of many bloody wars.

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<v Speaker 1>He's saying that gluteny kills as many people as plagues

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<v Speaker 1>and wars. Clearly, Luigi Cornaro was a big fan of

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<v Speaker 1>eating less. But the reason that I'm taking us on

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<v Speaker 1>a journey to Renaissance Italy is that this early diet

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<v Speaker 1>became a really big deal, not just at the time

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<v Speaker 1>but also over the years, and its success marks a

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<v Speaker 1>key moment in our transformation from a culture focus on

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<v Speaker 1>health to one that was and still is obsessed with weight.

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<v Speaker 1>Eating less also known as dieting, has had a hold

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<v Speaker 1>on us for a long time. But for a while,

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<v Speaker 1>people saw eating as a way to become healthier and

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<v Speaker 1>for everyone in society to be generally better off. It

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't really about losing weight the way it is today.

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<v Speaker 1>Case in point Luigi Cornaro, who first started overhauling the

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<v Speaker 1>way he ate to improve his health. Luigi was sick

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<v Speaker 1>and pretty unhappy until around the age of forty. He

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<v Speaker 1>has symptoms of gout, all kinds of stomach issues, and

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<v Speaker 1>what he described hibs as a persistent low fever. He

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<v Speaker 1>says he tried almost everything to feel better, but none

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<v Speaker 1>of it worked. He says his only hope is that

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<v Speaker 1>death will put him out of his misery. Then his

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<v Speaker 1>doctors have an idea. My physicians declared there was but

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<v Speaker 1>one remedy left for my eels. That remedy was the

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<v Speaker 1>temperate and orderly life. The prescription was to eat less.

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<v Speaker 1>My physicians warned me, if I neglected to apply this

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<v Speaker 1>remedy in a short time, it would be too late

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<v Speaker 1>to derive any benefit from it. For in a few

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<v Speaker 1>months I should certainly die. This was to be clear,

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<v Speaker 1>a pretty radical approach to eating at the time. To

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<v Speaker 1>hear Luigi tell it, well off people like him were

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<v Speaker 1>eating and drinking large amounts of whatever they enjoyed, but

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<v Speaker 1>Luigi is desperate it, so he follows their advice. He

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<v Speaker 1>cuts out the rich, delicious food and copious wine he

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<v Speaker 1>had been feasting on, and he eventually settles on a

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<v Speaker 1>diet that is simple and austere. Just twelve ounces of

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<v Speaker 1>food a day, an egg yolk, bread, a little meat,

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<v Speaker 1>and some soup. That's it. He also has about fourteen

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<v Speaker 1>ounces of wine. Hey, a man can't live on egg

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<v Speaker 1>yolks alone. After a few days of eating less, Luigi

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<v Speaker 1>says he's already feeling much better. Within a year, he's

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<v Speaker 1>a new man. So long stomach pain, goodbye fever. He's

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<v Speaker 1>in perfect health, and by his account, continues on that

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<v Speaker 1>way for decades. By his eighties, Luigi says he feels strong,

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<v Speaker 1>he can get onto his horse without help and easily

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<v Speaker 1>climbs a hill on foot, and he doesn't talk about

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<v Speaker 1>his weight in the book, only his health. They also

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<v Speaker 1>see how I'm ever cheerful, happy and contented, free from

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<v Speaker 1>all perturbations of his soul, and from every vexatious thought.

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<v Speaker 1>Instead of these, joy and peace have fixed their abode

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<v Speaker 1>in my heart and never depart from it. At one point,

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<v Speaker 1>his family, friends and doctors actually become worried that Luigi

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<v Speaker 1>is not eating enough, so he adds two more ounces

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<v Speaker 1>of food and two more ounces of wine to his

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<v Speaker 1>incredibly strict daily meal plan. It does not go well.

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<v Speaker 1>He writes that he just starts feeling sick again. However,

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<v Speaker 1>I recovered God be praised solely by returning to my

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<v Speaker 1>former rule of life ah the power of dieting while

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<v Speaker 1>dining on egg yokes and wine blu which he actually

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<v Speaker 1>leads a really long life, especially for the sixteenth century.

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<v Speaker 1>He lives to see his daughter grow up and get married.

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<v Speaker 1>He meets his eleven grandchildren and watches them grow up too.

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<v Speaker 1>At the age of eighty three, he decides to share

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<v Speaker 1>his wisdom with others so that they too may defeat

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<v Speaker 1>the evils of intemperance and live a long and happy life.

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<v Speaker 1>So he writes this sixteenth century dieting manifesto. I have

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<v Speaker 1>seen many of my dearest friends and associates, men endowed

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<v Speaker 1>with splendid gifts of intellect and noble qualities of heart

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<v Speaker 1>fall in the prime of life victims of this dread tyrant. Therefore,

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<v Speaker 1>to prevent so great an evil for the future, I

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<v Speaker 1>have decided to point out in this brief treatise what

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<v Speaker 1>a fatal abuse is, the vice of intemperance, and easily

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<v Speaker 1>it may be removed and replaced by the temperate habits

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<v Speaker 1>of life. As Luigi gets even older, he says he's

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<v Speaker 1>still in good health, and now he's cutting down his

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<v Speaker 1>meals even further. Sometimes he's eating just one egg yoke

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<v Speaker 1>over the course of two days. What Luigi is doing

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<v Speaker 1>may sound pretty out there, and it is half an

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<v Speaker 1>egg yolk a day is obviously not enough food to

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<v Speaker 1>live on. But in other ways it's actually a fairly

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<v Speaker 1>modern dieting tactic. He is restricting his calories in a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty extreme way by cutting out whole food groups and

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<v Speaker 1>eating very small portions. It's something a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>still do today. Luigi has had lots of fans over

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<v Speaker 1>the years, including the inventor Thomas at us In. He

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<v Speaker 1>also had lots of skeptics, like the well known German

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<v Speaker 1>philosopher Friedrich Nietzsche, who wrote that rather than leading to

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<v Speaker 1>long life, Luigi Cornaro's diet actually shortened lives. Luigi keeps

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<v Speaker 1>writing about his diet. The collected essays are published as

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<v Speaker 1>a book called The Art of Living Long. The book

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<v Speaker 1>takes off, helped along by a relatively new invention, the

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<v Speaker 1>printing press, and like I said before, Luigi's treatise becomes

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<v Speaker 1>a sensation. It's been called the first best selling diet

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<v Speaker 1>book ever. It is still sold to this day. It

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<v Speaker 1>seems like people are still reading this book because they

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<v Speaker 1>want to learn from Luigi's philosophy, even if they aren't

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<v Speaker 1>going to start on the exact same diet. And Luigi

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<v Speaker 1>did in fact live long, though there's some disagreement about

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<v Speaker 1>whether he died at or lived to be as old

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<v Speaker 1>as a hundred and four. Either way, not bad. But

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<v Speaker 1>the reason I've spent so much time telling you about

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<v Speaker 1>a sixteenth century Italian merchant with a love for eggs

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<v Speaker 1>is that the diet is a long, long tradition. Luigi

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<v Speaker 1>story is a model for pretty much every blockbuster diet

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<v Speaker 1>that's ever existed. In this episode, I'm going to take

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<v Speaker 1>you through the history of dieting, from how the ancient

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<v Speaker 1>Greeks thought about it to the industrial revolutions. Shaping of

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<v Speaker 1>modern diet culture. It turns out that the diet fads

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<v Speaker 1>of today look a whole lot like the diet fads

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<v Speaker 1>of yesterday. We'll also explore what led to the rise

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<v Speaker 1>of mainstream dieting. You might assume that people were gaining

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of weight at the time, but actually no.

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<v Speaker 1>Society was just changing in such a way that people

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<v Speaker 1>were afraid they might gain weight. We'll also dive into

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<v Speaker 1>the psychology behind wacky diets and why we fall for

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<v Speaker 1>them each and every time. I'm Bloomberg News health reporter

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<v Speaker 1>em Accord and from the Prognosis podcast. This is losing It.

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<v Speaker 1>The diet goes back at least two thousand years. Like

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<v Speaker 1>many other things, we can trace it to the days

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<v Speaker 1>of the ancient Greeks. But the Greeks didn't look at

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<v Speaker 1>diet and exactly the way we do today. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>diet comes from a Greek word die eta, as in

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<v Speaker 1>a way of life, healthy body, healthy mind, eat moderately,

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<v Speaker 1>sleep and exercise, well, that kind of thing. They thought

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<v Speaker 1>of it as a responsibility you had not only to yourself,

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<v Speaker 1>but also your community. They had some other more out

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<v Speaker 1>their ideas too. For example, the physician Hippocrates recommended a

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<v Speaker 1>treatment regimen for weed that included walking around naked, sleeping

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<v Speaker 1>on a hard bed, and vomiting after meals. The Greeks

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<v Speaker 1>weren't into weighing out their food or counting their calories.

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<v Speaker 1>They were concerned with good health and saw moderate eating

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<v Speaker 1>as part of the path to getting there. But somewhere

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<v Speaker 1>along the way we lost sight of that goal. Diets

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<v Speaker 1>became about fitting into a smaller pair of pants. That

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<v Speaker 1>shift started in the fifteen hundreds with Luigi, a very

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<v Speaker 1>unwell person who came up with a diet, wrote a

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<v Speaker 1>book about it and sold it in that way. It

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<v Speaker 1>comes in the beginning of the own trend of people

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<v Speaker 1>that work along that formula. This is Louise Foxcroft, a

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<v Speaker 1>medical historian who wrote a book called Calories and Corsets,

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<v Speaker 1>a History of dieting over two thousand years. She's describing

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<v Speaker 1>what Luigi Cornaro did, but also what we still see

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<v Speaker 1>play out to this day. A person transforms how they

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<v Speaker 1>eat then goes on to tell the world about it,

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<v Speaker 1>no matter how extreme, restrictive or seemingly nonsensical. The approach

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<v Speaker 1>to understand how ideas about diet changed so dramatically we're

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<v Speaker 1>jumping forward in time about three hundred years from Luigi

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<v Speaker 1>to the Industrial Revolution. The Industrial Revolution was famously a

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<v Speaker 1>time of economic transformation in the West. People's way of

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<v Speaker 1>life started looking more like it does today. There are

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<v Speaker 1>many new physicians coming out of the medical schools, and

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<v Speaker 1>they've all got to make a living, so they begin

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<v Speaker 1>to diversify into different areas of medicine. And it's an

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<v Speaker 1>industrial age, so more and more people are moving from

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<v Speaker 1>rural settings into urban settings. The media and the print

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<v Speaker 1>market is taking off, and it all comes together to

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<v Speaker 1>create the perfect conditions. Really better technology helps manufacturing and

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<v Speaker 1>transportation expand. People are moving to cities and working in factories.

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<v Speaker 1>Instead of mailing a letter, you could send a telegraph,

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<v Speaker 1>allowing news and ideas to spread more quickly across the world.

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<v Speaker 1>And diets were one of those things that began spreading

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<v Speaker 1>like wildfire. It's during the Industrial Revolution the dieting in

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<v Speaker 1>the truly modern sense takes off, first in Europe and

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<v Speaker 1>then in the US. People are dieting to look good,

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<v Speaker 1>to be healthy, to be judged favorably by other people

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<v Speaker 1>as well as themselves. So doctors begin to take on

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<v Speaker 1>the idea of diets and dieting as fundamental to health,

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<v Speaker 1>which has always been true. But they have their own

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<v Speaker 1>particular take on it, just as you know diet gary

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<v Speaker 1>diet doctors do today. So they all come up with

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<v Speaker 1>their own particular diets and their own particular stories behind

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<v Speaker 1>their diets. They're selling points because they're trying to attract customers, obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>and they can write about it in the press and

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<v Speaker 1>their advertisements in the press, not only for doctors and diets,

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<v Speaker 1>but for diet products. So quite a lot of diet

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<v Speaker 1>drugs come onto the market during the nineteenth century as well,

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<v Speaker 1>which hadn't really happened before. People were taking laxatives and

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<v Speaker 1>even pills made of lard and arsenic in an effort

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<v Speaker 1>to lose weight ironic and dangerous remind you of anything contemporary,

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<v Speaker 1>boosts your metabolism, smashes your appetite, and keeps cravings at

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<v Speaker 1>bath to help you achieve your weight loss goals. I

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<v Speaker 1>have been taking these things for years, and a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people want to know how I have I lost

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<v Speaker 1>so much weight in the past couple of months, because

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<v Speaker 1>I really did lose a lot of weight, But I

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<v Speaker 1>don't fully understand what is in this medicine, but it

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<v Speaker 1>raised his body temperature to a hundred and seven degrees.

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<v Speaker 1>He had to be put into a medically induced coma

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<v Speaker 1>after eight pills. I think twice before you take these things.

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<v Speaker 1>Diet pills are coming on the scene during the Industrial Revolution,

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<v Speaker 1>and because people are living and working more in crowded,

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<v Speaker 1>densely populated areas, everybody can compare themselves to everybody else

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<v Speaker 1>because there you are. You even had the emergence of

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<v Speaker 1>nineteenth century diet influencers. One of them was the poet

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<v Speaker 1>Lord Byron. Back then, Lord Byron was also famous for

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<v Speaker 1>his yo yo dieting. The five ft eight inch tall

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<v Speaker 1>writer weighed himself in public on the London Stores Coffee Skills,

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<v Speaker 1>losing a whopping fifty four pounds between two a nds.

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<v Speaker 1>Lord Byron's weight loss strategies included wearing lots of clothing

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<v Speaker 1>so he would sweat more, and diets that were then

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<v Speaker 1>in vogue, like eating flat vinegary potatoes. Vinegar, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>is still being used for weight loss today. So Janette

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<v Speaker 1>says that after taking apple side of vinegar, she felt

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<v Speaker 1>less bloated. Was it before and after on her then?

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<v Speaker 1>Michelle says she saw a major improvement in her energy

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<v Speaker 1>throughout the day, and Demor says she dropped more than

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<v Speaker 1>the dress side. Anyway, back to Lord Byron, he was

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<v Speaker 1>very influential, and doctors in the eighteen sixties are worried

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<v Speaker 1>about Byron's influence on the young lung after Byron's disappeared

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<v Speaker 1>from the place. It wasn't just Lord Byron, many many

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<v Speaker 1>fad diets emerged during this time, you know, as newspapers

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<v Speaker 1>and magazines and drugs and adverts. It's just a massive

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<v Speaker 1>market and it starts increasing throughout the nineteenth century. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>that business would keep getting bigger and bigger. Today, the

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<v Speaker 1>industry brings in about seventy billion dollars a year in

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<v Speaker 1>the US alone. Around the time that Lord Byron was

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<v Speaker 1>guzzling vinegar, a minister named Sylvester Graham was preaching a

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<v Speaker 1>different kind of diet. M Sylvester rejected the changes happening

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<v Speaker 1>in society at the time, like more processed foods, and

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<v Speaker 1>like any true minister, he was also very concerned about sin,

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<v Speaker 1>specifically the sin of gluttony. Sylvester told his followers to

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<v Speaker 1>cut out meat, even though being vegetarian was pretty radical

0:18:53.480 --> 0:18:58.000
<v Speaker 1>back then. He also wanted them to cut out alcohol, coffee,

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<v Speaker 1>and spices. If Sylvester seems like an old timey figure,

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<v Speaker 1>consider that you've probably eaten a snack. He invented a

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<v Speaker 1>whole week cracker known as the Graham Cracker. Can you

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<v Speaker 1>imagine how horrified he'd be about s'mores. Other trends popularized

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<v Speaker 1>during these years include the low carved diet, also a

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<v Speaker 1>modern favorite, and chewing your food as much as possible,

0:19:27.880 --> 0:19:32.359
<v Speaker 1>which was known as Fletcherizing after the colorful American businessman

0:19:32.480 --> 0:19:37.080
<v Speaker 1>who touted its weight loss benefits. Charlotte took seven hundred cheese,

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<v Speaker 1>by which time nicocial meal would be freezing cold. Say

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<v Speaker 1>you probably wouldn't continue eating anyway. The writer's frowns. Kafka

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<v Speaker 1>and Henry James started Fletcherizing, so did the businessman John Rockefeller,

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<v Speaker 1>And though it might sound silly, plenty of people recommend

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<v Speaker 1>chewing for weight loss to this day. I want to

0:19:58.119 --> 0:20:02.080
<v Speaker 1>work out that flattens your bell fast. Forget about working

0:20:02.080 --> 0:20:08.400
<v Speaker 1>your muscles, try working your jaw instead chewing. New tools

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<v Speaker 1>for measuring both food and bodies also come on the

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<v Speaker 1>scene during this time. They include the calorie, which you

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<v Speaker 1>may remember from episode one to recap Researchers in Europe

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<v Speaker 1>began using calories to measure the energy and food. The

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<v Speaker 1>American scientist wilverolan Atwater brought those ideas to the US,

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<v Speaker 1>where calories would become the basis for you guessed it,

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<v Speaker 1>new diets. The point I am making with this tour

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<v Speaker 1>through diet history is that we've essentially been recycling the

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<v Speaker 1>same tired diet premises for hundreds of years. Another modern

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<v Speaker 1>measurement that will be familiar to any dieter also begins

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<v Speaker 1>in this era, eventually leading to body mass index or

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<v Speaker 1>b m I. The formula was first invented by a

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<v Speaker 1>Belgian mathematician in the eighteen thirties. Life insurance companies subsequently

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<v Speaker 1>began using metrics like weight and height when deciding whether

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<v Speaker 1>to grant people life insurance or not. You can see

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<v Speaker 1>why they might want a tool like this. If someone died,

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<v Speaker 1>life insurers would have to pay up. B m I

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<v Speaker 1>has since become incredibly widely used as a way of

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<v Speaker 1>assessing people's health, but there are a lot of researchers, activists,

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<v Speaker 1>and even doctors who say that it isn't very useful

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<v Speaker 1>for that One of the issues is that b m

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<v Speaker 1>I tables were initially based on white men, and yet

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<v Speaker 1>the measure is uniformly applied to everyone these days, including

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<v Speaker 1>women and people of color. The dangers do health resulting

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<v Speaker 1>from overweight have been shown convincingly by light insurance records.

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<v Speaker 1>Life expectancy decreases as the amount of overweight increases. Excessive

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<v Speaker 1>calorie intake is the cause of overweight. By this point,

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<v Speaker 1>you're probably getting the picture. This time period was the

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<v Speaker 1>start of many of our modern ideas about dieting, the

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<v Speaker 1>calorie body mass index, scammy weight loss pills, foods designed

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<v Speaker 1>specifically for dieting, chewing more to eat less, low carb diets.

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<v Speaker 1>Even that's what keto is. The Keto diet is simply

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<v Speaker 1>a shift in how you eat. They claim to turn

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<v Speaker 1>your body into a fat burning machine. Luigia Cornaro was

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<v Speaker 1>way ahead of his time, and as the Industrial Revolution

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<v Speaker 1>and years following it show, much of dieting comes as

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<v Speaker 1>a result of the conditions of modern life. Diet as

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<v Speaker 1>we know it starts here, and very little about it

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<v Speaker 1>changes from then until now. So okay, let's recap for

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<v Speaker 1>a second. In the nineteenth century, technology was advancing to

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<v Speaker 1>allow us to produce more stuff and communicate more efficiently.

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<v Speaker 1>People were living in cities, Medicine was becoming professionalized, and

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<v Speaker 1>with that you had the rise of doctors trying all

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<v Speaker 1>kinds of creative ways to make money off of people's health.

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<v Speaker 1>These are all things that helped make diets more widespread

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<v Speaker 1>and embraced by everyday people. But what was it about

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<v Speaker 1>this particular moment in time that made people suddenly so

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<v Speaker 1>concerned about their waistline? Sure there was all this technological innovation,

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<v Speaker 1>but what else had changed? It was no longer fashionable.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Peter Stearns. He's a history professor at George

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<v Speaker 1>Mason University an author of a book called fat History.

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<v Speaker 1>The classic story is that until the late nineteenth century,

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<v Speaker 1>if you were a little bit plump, it was probably

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<v Speaker 1>a sign a that you were healthy because you had

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<v Speaker 1>enough to eat, and be you were successful because you

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<v Speaker 1>had enough to eat. And that just that just begins

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<v Speaker 1>to drop off, and the fashion begins to emphasize slenderness.

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<v Speaker 1>What Peter is getting at is that along with changing technology,

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<v Speaker 1>this time also brought some pretty drastic changes to Western

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<v Speaker 1>beauty ideals. At a time when people struggled to get

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<v Speaker 1>enough to eat, being thin was just proof of that.

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<v Speaker 1>It was also more common having curves being heavier. That

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<v Speaker 1>meant you were wealthy and successful, and compared to thinness,

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<v Speaker 1>it was unusual. As industrialization brought more prosperity and with

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<v Speaker 1>it less physical activity and more process foods, the tables

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<v Speaker 1>turned think back to Renaissance paintings hundreds of years earlier,

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<v Speaker 1>in the time of our favorite early diet guru Luigi Cornaro.

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<v Speaker 1>Artists like Peter Paul Rubens and Tysian famously painted curvy women,

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<v Speaker 1>often naked. In Rubens paintings, you see flesh, rippling, fat roles,

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<v Speaker 1>even sally light. His subjects might be called Rubenesque today. Really,

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<v Speaker 1>Luigi was ahead of his time because back then then

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<v Speaker 1>was not the standard. You can see beauty ideals begin

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<v Speaker 1>shifting in art at the time, like the influential drawings

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<v Speaker 1>of women done by the artist Charles Dana Gibson in

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<v Speaker 1>the nineties. The women in his work were known as

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<v Speaker 1>Gibson girls. Gibson girls had thick, glossy hair piled on

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<v Speaker 1>top of their heads and impossibly tiny waists. They wore

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<v Speaker 1>impeccable gowns and often glamorous furs. They became the new

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<v Speaker 1>beauty ideal for American women. They're featured in magazines like

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<v Speaker 1>Life and scrib Neers. Remember this was before TV, so

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<v Speaker 1>magazines were an even bigger deal. They were the subject

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<v Speaker 1>of songs and even wallpaper designs. The Gibson girls are curvy,

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<v Speaker 1>but in a very different way than the Renaissance women

0:26:38.840 --> 0:26:44.320
<v Speaker 1>painted by Rubens and Titian. They have pronounced hourglass figures.

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<v Speaker 1>Women wanted to look like them in the same way

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<v Speaker 1>women want to look like Kardashians Now. Fashion would transform

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<v Speaker 1>even further in the coming decades. A small waists and

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<v Speaker 1>the corsets that made them possible fell out of style

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<v Speaker 1>in favor of the nine twenties flapper look. We're also

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<v Speaker 1>familiar with. Hips were out and then was in. The

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<v Speaker 1>Flapper look comes into style at a time that a

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<v Speaker 1>lot is changing for American women. Many of them started

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<v Speaker 1>working during World War Two, with men away fighting the war,

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<v Speaker 1>and women soon gained the right to vote. Flappers were

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<v Speaker 1>rebelling against the way women had lived their lives before,

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<v Speaker 1>including through what was fashionable. The shift to thinner bodies

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<v Speaker 1>being valued and prized happened really quickly. It's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>funny to think about that today when it can feel

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<v Speaker 1>like being skinny has always been desirable. There was a

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<v Speaker 1>famous French stage star named Sarah Bernard who came to

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<v Speaker 1>the United States I believe in the eighteen eighties, and

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<v Speaker 1>she was ridiculed because she was so thin. People did

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<v Speaker 1>not find her attractive. She came back in the nineties

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<v Speaker 1>and she was a wow, this is exactly the way

0:28:06.880 --> 0:28:10.679
<v Speaker 1>people are supposed to look. There's also a medical side

0:28:10.720 --> 0:28:14.280
<v Speaker 1>to the shift. Remember this is the era of the

0:28:14.400 --> 0:28:20.320
<v Speaker 1>calorie and more sedentary lifestyles. Scientists are becoming concerned about

0:28:20.440 --> 0:28:25.399
<v Speaker 1>people eating too much. Now they're getting evidence that seems

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<v Speaker 1>to say pretty clearly that weighing too much is bad

0:28:29.480 --> 0:28:34.880
<v Speaker 1>for you. The reality is actually more complicated, though that's

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<v Speaker 1>something we'll get into later in this series. There is

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<v Speaker 1>at this point there's well established scientific evidence that we

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<v Speaker 1>definitely relates to health, definitely relates to mortality. Chances concerned

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<v Speaker 1>about issues like heart attacks and blood pressure go up markedly.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the old causes of death are beginning to

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<v Speaker 1>recede in favor of some of the causes we worry

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<v Speaker 1>about today, and wait in body shape clearly enter into

0:29:02.320 --> 0:29:06.800
<v Speaker 1>those causes. People aren't dying as much from infectious disease

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<v Speaker 1>a k A. The old causes of death. Because of

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<v Speaker 1>better treatments and public health measures, the new public health

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<v Speaker 1>concern now is weight, and specifically the health risks of

0:29:19.840 --> 0:29:25.000
<v Speaker 1>carrying around extra pounds. Consumption of calories in excess of

0:29:25.080 --> 0:29:30.680
<v Speaker 1>body needs is the single most extensive nutritional problem affecting

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<v Speaker 1>public health in this country. People should be informed that

0:29:35.440 --> 0:29:40.520
<v Speaker 1>overweight is preventable. Before this, when people weighed themselves, they

0:29:40.640 --> 0:29:45.480
<v Speaker 1>might have used agricultural scales in public places Lord Byron style.

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<v Speaker 1>Now scales start getting used much more widely. Hospitals start

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<v Speaker 1>buying them in the late eighteen hundreds. By the twenties,

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<v Speaker 1>skills make their debut in people's bathrooms, and doctor's offices

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<v Speaker 1>are regularly weighing people when they come in for an exam.

0:30:03.760 --> 0:30:06.800
<v Speaker 1>You have to be a really old fashioned doctor by

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<v Speaker 1>not to know that weight could be an issue. In

0:30:10.360 --> 0:30:14.440
<v Speaker 1>other words, that dreaded way in at your annual physical

0:30:14.840 --> 0:30:19.800
<v Speaker 1>became a routine medical practice hundred years ago. Think about

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<v Speaker 1>that for a second. Doctors didn't constantly check how much

0:30:24.840 --> 0:30:29.720
<v Speaker 1>you weighed. Before then, they didn't always needed to evaluate

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<v Speaker 1>your health because in those days, we was not equivalent

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<v Speaker 1>to health The Industrial revolution was also changing the fashion industry.

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<v Speaker 1>Before handmade clothing was the norm, a seamstress might make

0:30:45.280 --> 0:30:49.680
<v Speaker 1>a gown for you. More mass produced clothing brought clothing

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<v Speaker 1>sizes out into the open and made it a lot

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<v Speaker 1>easier to compare your body to other people's bodies. Think

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<v Speaker 1>about how obsessed people get these days with their pants size.

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<v Speaker 1>That kind of panic dates back here. But this is

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<v Speaker 1>what I find most interesting about everything that is going

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<v Speaker 1>on during this time. There is no real reason to

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<v Speaker 1>believe people were actually gaining more weight at this point

0:31:20.640 --> 0:31:26.400
<v Speaker 1>in history. Instead, the way society was changing, there was

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<v Speaker 1>this potential for weight gain. That is what people were

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<v Speaker 1>concerned about. So on the one side, there's more food,

0:31:35.640 --> 0:31:39.239
<v Speaker 1>more readily available, and at the same time from an

0:31:39.240 --> 0:31:43.360
<v Speaker 1>increasing number of people, physical exertion goes down. More and

0:31:43.400 --> 0:31:47.800
<v Speaker 1>more people are in white collar jobs, the role of agriculture,

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<v Speaker 1>and even blue collar jobs begins graduated decline. So just

0:31:52.560 --> 0:31:55.200
<v Speaker 1>in the normal course of things, people are expanding fewer

0:31:55.240 --> 0:31:59.120
<v Speaker 1>calories during their day. People aren't moving around as much,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're sitting more at desks. Unwanted pounds creep on

0:32:03.360 --> 0:32:07.600
<v Speaker 1>so easily in this motorized and mechanized age with its

0:32:07.760 --> 0:32:12.040
<v Speaker 1>labor saving devices. But it wasn't just this fear of

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<v Speaker 1>becoming unhealthy because you're no longer laboring on a farm

0:32:15.920 --> 0:32:19.920
<v Speaker 1>all day or walking five miles to school. It was

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<v Speaker 1>also new beauty ideals and skills becoming more widely available.

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<v Speaker 1>You have more opportunities to check your weight, therefore more

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<v Speaker 1>opportunities to begin to worry about your weight. If you

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<v Speaker 1>worry about your weight, you are more interested now in

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<v Speaker 1>checking it. So these trans reinforce themselves, no question, there

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<v Speaker 1>are also some new different ways of thinking about the

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<v Speaker 1>evolution of beauty standards. I spoke with Sabrina Strings about that.

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<v Speaker 1>She's an associate professor of sociology at the University of California, Irvine,

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<v Speaker 1>and she actually traces the rise of the thin ideal

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<v Speaker 1>to the eighteenth century, a little earlier than the period

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<v Speaker 1>we've been talking about. The Transatlantic slave trade has been

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<v Speaker 1>going on for hundreds of years at this point, and

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<v Speaker 1>criticisms are gaining steam, and Sabrina says it's no coincidence

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<v Speaker 1>that attitudes about bigger bodies were changing at this time too.

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<v Speaker 1>Sabrina's research has found that racist language starts getting used

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<v Speaker 1>to describe bigger people and justify idealizing thin bodies. People

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<v Speaker 1>were saying that African slaves were fundamentally different from Europeans,

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<v Speaker 1>and one of the ways they did that was by

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<v Speaker 1>making the claim that African slaves couldn't control themselves around food.

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<v Speaker 1>Sabrina says these racist arguments helped justify the institution of slavery,

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<v Speaker 1>and one of the ways in which race science evolved

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<v Speaker 1>to prove European superiority was the suggestion that they knew

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<v Speaker 1>how to control themselves when it came to food. They said,

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<v Speaker 1>black people overeat. You know, they're hyper oral, and this

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<v Speaker 1>is one of the reasons why black people are fat.

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<v Speaker 1>But we as Europeans, we are rational who we are controlled,

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<v Speaker 1>and we can do better than that. Having a bigger

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<v Speaker 1>body became proof of racial inferiority. In other words, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>you've heard diets and the culture around them being described

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<v Speaker 1>as oppressive. It's usually used to say specifically that diets

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<v Speaker 1>oppressed women, a reference to the way women are particularly

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<v Speaker 1>judged for not meeting beauty standards. Most dieters are women,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way. That's why Sabrina's work feels like such

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<v Speaker 1>an important part of history around why and how we

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<v Speaker 1>got to where we are today. It shows another oppressive

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<v Speaker 1>dimension of diets, one that's much less talked about. How

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<v Speaker 1>diets have historical roots slavery and racism. Some people are

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<v Speaker 1>able to benefit magnificently from dieting. They build their whole

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<v Speaker 1>empires on telling people how to lose weight. But then

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<v Speaker 1>there are the other people who are those individuals being

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<v Speaker 1>told to lose weight who are being oppressed by that information.

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<v Speaker 1>So to summarize, during the Industrial Revolution era, society was

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<v Speaker 1>changing rapidly. People started living in cities and leading more

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<v Speaker 1>sedentary lives. At the same time, bigger bodies were falling

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<v Speaker 1>out of fashion in the Western world, and doctors became

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<v Speaker 1>more concerned about people's weight. Things like scales and new

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<v Speaker 1>clothing sizes made it easier for people to notice the

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<v Speaker 1>size of their bodies and worry about it. These all

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<v Speaker 1>help explain why dieting became so incredibly popular at this

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<v Speaker 1>point in history. But there's still a lingering gap here

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<v Speaker 1>that we need to resolve. Because people didn't just fall

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<v Speaker 1>for dangerous, difficult diet schemes hundreds of years ago. They

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<v Speaker 1>fall for them to this very day. Why do we

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<v Speaker 1>do this to ourselves? Time after time. There's just something

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<v Speaker 1>about the promise of dieting that we can't shake. Humans

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<v Speaker 1>have been attracted to these outlandish schemes again and again

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<v Speaker 1>throughout history. We love a ridiculous premise, like the grapefruit diet. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>that was a real diet. Weird al Jankovic even wrote

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<v Speaker 1>a song parodying every big of Me Gonna be an

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<v Speaker 1>aery view now details me one diet throw out. We

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<v Speaker 1>want to believe we truly can lose ten hounds in

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<v Speaker 1>a week if someone tells us they have the secret,

0:37:04.080 --> 0:37:10.319
<v Speaker 1>nobody else has. Sure, why not? Sounds great? I just

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<v Speaker 1>talked about how dieting takes off during and after the

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<v Speaker 1>Industrial Revolution, a time of tremendous economic and societal change.

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<v Speaker 1>People wanted to be thinner because that's what they were

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<v Speaker 1>being told to look like, and because their doctors were

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<v Speaker 1>increasingly concerned about the health risks of extra weight. But

0:37:30.080 --> 0:37:34.080
<v Speaker 1>we're not just obsessed with getting smaller. We're obsessed with

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<v Speaker 1>getting smaller fast. Lots of people have fallen for a

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<v Speaker 1>fad diet that claimed some insane amount of weight loss

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<v Speaker 1>in a ridiculously short amount of time. We've talked a

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<v Speaker 1>lot about the history of diets in this episode. But

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<v Speaker 1>now I want to shift gears. We're going to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about something slightly different, the psychology of diets. Why do

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<v Speaker 1>we keep falling for these things? The short answer has

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<v Speaker 1>to do with a familiar concept, delayed gratification. Delaying gratification

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<v Speaker 1>is something we don't like to do because when things

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<v Speaker 1>are far away, we don't value them as much. The

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<v Speaker 1>technical term for this is delayed discounting. We usually think

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<v Speaker 1>about this idea in terms of good things and pleasure,

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<v Speaker 1>which is why it's known as delayed gratification. But Michael Lowe,

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<v Speaker 1>a professor of clinical psychology at Drexel who has previously

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<v Speaker 1>worked as a Weight Watchers consultant, offered me a different perspective.

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<v Speaker 1>He told me that the same concept applies to unhappiness

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<v Speaker 1>and discomfort. By the time your pre pandemic genes no

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<v Speaker 1>longer fit, you're desperate to change that and soon we

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<v Speaker 1>act quickly to get pleasure as soon as we can.

0:38:59.200 --> 0:39:01.960
<v Speaker 1>But we all I want to act quickly to get

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<v Speaker 1>rid of stress and distress and unhappiness as quickly as

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<v Speaker 1>we can, And therefore the more radical to diet, the

0:39:12.400 --> 0:39:16.600
<v Speaker 1>quicker the pounds come off. In the short term. Michael

0:39:16.640 --> 0:39:20.080
<v Speaker 1>is saying here that really out their diets don't scare

0:39:20.160 --> 0:39:25.399
<v Speaker 1>us off, they actually attract us. Because we think that

0:39:25.440 --> 0:39:31.440
<v Speaker 1>diet sounds so crazy it just might work. Michael says

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<v Speaker 1>that means we are also part of the problem because

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<v Speaker 1>we don't really want to make small, reasonable changes to

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<v Speaker 1>how we eat, exercise and live in the long term.

0:39:42.800 --> 0:39:48.120
<v Speaker 1>What we really want is to lose weight quickly. Fad diet,

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<v Speaker 1>crash diet. It's why we think of diets as short

0:39:53.800 --> 0:39:57.680
<v Speaker 1>term solutions because we're primed to think that way about

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<v Speaker 1>weight loss, a diet that will get you ready for

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<v Speaker 1>swimsuit season or your cousin's upcoming wedding. We treat lots

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<v Speaker 1>of other things that way too. How things will pan

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<v Speaker 1>out longer term isn't even really on our minds. What's

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<v Speaker 1>being offered is something that we want, and generally it's

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<v Speaker 1>being offered in a package that says this is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be quick and relatively easy. This is Janet Paul

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<v Speaker 1>v a psychologist who is now retired but for a

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<v Speaker 1>long time studied diets at the University of Toronto. Much

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<v Speaker 1>quicker and easier than really changing your behavior over the

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<v Speaker 1>long term, and so that's attractive to most of us.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we'd all rather you know, if I could

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<v Speaker 1>rub a cream on my face and have all my

0:40:46.320 --> 0:40:49.520
<v Speaker 1>wriggles disappeared, well, that would be great. Or if I

0:40:49.520 --> 0:40:52.719
<v Speaker 1>could rub a cream on my body and have weight disappear,

0:40:52.880 --> 0:40:56.040
<v Speaker 1>that would be better. She says. There's another reason we

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<v Speaker 1>all fall for diets. She calls it false hope syndrome.

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<v Speaker 1>People think, well, if I only could lose this weight,

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<v Speaker 1>everything in my life would be better. I would get

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<v Speaker 1>a boyfriend, I would get that promotion I've always wanted.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just this weight that's holding me back. But that's

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<v Speaker 1>not realistic either. People think weight loss will change not

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<v Speaker 1>just their bodies, but also everything, all the aspects of

0:41:26.160 --> 0:41:30.200
<v Speaker 1>their lives that weren't totally perfect before. And if you

0:41:30.200 --> 0:41:33.800
<v Speaker 1>think about it, these kinds of transformation stories are baked

0:41:34.000 --> 0:41:38.040
<v Speaker 1>deep into popular culture. It's a basis of fairy tales

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<v Speaker 1>like Cinderella and many a makeover montage and teen movies. Remember,

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<v Speaker 1>Janet calls it false hope syndrome, the idea that weight

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<v Speaker 1>loss will transform your life. That's the hope part, but

0:41:53.920 --> 0:41:58.920
<v Speaker 1>it's actually false hope. Janet has worked as a therapist

0:41:59.000 --> 0:42:02.600
<v Speaker 1>for patients who laws weight. Some I even lost a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of weight. And when they lost weight, sure they

0:42:06.719 --> 0:42:13.400
<v Speaker 1>got compliments, but they also were almost disappointed. I heard

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<v Speaker 1>over and over I actually lost the weight back, you know, whenever,

0:42:21.160 --> 0:42:28.080
<v Speaker 1>and nothing changed. My friends didn't treat me better, my

0:42:28.239 --> 0:42:33.040
<v Speaker 1>work didn't treat me better. Nothing changed. I went through

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<v Speaker 1>all of this. These psychological draws help us understand why

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<v Speaker 1>people have turned to diets over and over and over again,

0:42:42.440 --> 0:42:47.160
<v Speaker 1>over hundreds, if not thousands of years. They're popular and

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<v Speaker 1>controversial because they're about who we are at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the day, what our bodies look like, but also

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<v Speaker 1>how we live our lives. Something I keep coming back to, though,

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<v Speaker 1>is how often diet history repeats itself. Name a modern

0:43:05.200 --> 0:43:11.600
<v Speaker 1>diet and it's probably been done before the century had vegetarians.

0:43:12.000 --> 0:43:16.319
<v Speaker 1>Diet breads are the new Graham crackers. Your ancestors did

0:43:16.440 --> 0:43:21.720
<v Speaker 1>locarb diets before your mom tried Atkins, and before Dr

0:43:21.760 --> 0:43:25.160
<v Speaker 1>Oz was telling you about the weight loss benefits of vinegar,

0:43:25.840 --> 0:43:31.799
<v Speaker 1>Lord Byron was drinking it. These ideas seem new, they

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<v Speaker 1>are not. We just keep falling into the same traps

0:43:36.840 --> 0:43:42.040
<v Speaker 1>and following the same bad information. Here's Louise Foxcraft again

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<v Speaker 1>when I write the book. Actually, I thought, I see

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<v Speaker 1>exactly how to write a good diet book. Now I

0:43:50.640 --> 0:43:53.080
<v Speaker 1>could do that. She was talking about her book on

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<v Speaker 1>the history of dieting. I could call it the History Diet,

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<v Speaker 1>so I could take all the best elements out of

0:43:58.520 --> 0:44:02.000
<v Speaker 1>this and write my own diet book. I'd pick out

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<v Speaker 1>all the best bits, all the bits that appeared to work,

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<v Speaker 1>or all the bits not only I mean, if I

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<v Speaker 1>was completely unscrupulous, not only the bits that appeared to work,

0:44:10.320 --> 0:44:16.160
<v Speaker 1>but the bits that people appeared, um two be susceptible to.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not difficult to do. It's a formula to it all. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>to be clear, Louise never created the History Diet, though

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<v Speaker 1>you could totally see that working right, And she makes

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<v Speaker 1>a great point about diets they always follow a formula.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to explore that. In the next episode. We'll

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<v Speaker 1>head to neighborhood in Miami, Florida, known for its iconic beaches,

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<v Speaker 1>sunny weather, and beautiful people. It's a groundbreaking phenomenon with

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<v Speaker 1>a global following, the South Beach Diet. We'll tell the

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<v Speaker 1>story behind the iconic early two thousands die it and

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<v Speaker 1>what it teaches us about the formula for a hit diet.

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<v Speaker 1>This off actually began with its founder's own effort to

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<v Speaker 1>lose weight, and of course we'll meet that founder, the

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<v Speaker 1>cardiologist Arthur Agatston. The follow starts laughing at me and

0:45:17.920 --> 0:45:19.279
<v Speaker 1>I said, what are you laughing at? He said, look

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<v Speaker 1>at your belly, and I really I had one losing

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<v Speaker 1>It is written and reported by me Ema Court. Kristin V.

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<v Speaker 1>Brown is our editor, Magnus Hendrickson is our senior producer,

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<v Speaker 1>Stacy Wong our associate producer, and Blake Maples is our

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<v Speaker 1>audio engineer. Our theme was composed and performed by Hannis Brown.

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<v Speaker 1>Our voice actor for this episode was Sonny de Knocker.

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