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Speaker 1: Calling all my sweeties to the forefront. I'm your host,

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Speaker 1: Christopher and this is to Keep It Positive Sweetish Show.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Keep It Positive Sweeties Show, the space

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Speaker 1: where we taught growth, healing, and becoming in real time.

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Speaker 1: Today's guest is actor, filmmaker and create a storyteller Shannon Wallace.

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Speaker 1: Shannon Wallace is someone whose journey has been shaped both

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Speaker 1: in front of and behind the camera, from photography and

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Speaker 1: filmmaking to standout roles on screen. Today's conversation is about

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Speaker 1: how he's building his career with intention, choosing alignment over noise,

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Speaker 1: and staying grounded as momentum continues to grow. Here, Stanley,

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Speaker 1: please give a very warm welcome to the Shannon Wallace's up. Hi. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you look into don't you start that starting? I know

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Speaker 1: that's how we started the last week. We did bet

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Speaker 1: Media House this summer and after we finished talking it

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Speaker 1: was a brief interview, I was like, we got to

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Speaker 1: get you on, So I'm so excited to have you on.

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Speaker 1: But this episode I wanted people to get to know

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Speaker 1: you a little better. You're kind of like a little mystery.

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Speaker 1: You like that your.

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Speaker 2: Business to day. If anybody can get me out of issues.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I appreciate that. So first of all from Long Island,

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Speaker 1: New York, I want to know who young Shannon was like,

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Speaker 1: because right now, like you, he's very funny, You're very funny, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: very funny, outgoing, but then also quirky, had introverted So like,

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Speaker 1: who was a little boy?

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Speaker 2: Okay, to be honest with you, I think I am

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Speaker 2: the little boy.

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Speaker 3: I think I've separated myself from the this thing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I as a kid, I didn't.

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Speaker 3: I was weird, Like they felt things was wrong with

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Speaker 2: I didn't. I don't know. I guess I was like

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Speaker 3: So they tell me that whenever my parents would drop

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Speaker 3: they you know, they were they had a lot to do,

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Speaker 3: so they would drop me off with their older siblings

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Speaker 1: He's just probably didn't have the words with like exactly exactly.

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Speaker 2: And I wasn't really not that I was nonverbal, but

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Speaker 2: I didn't speak.

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Speaker 3: I think it was just I was really shy. So

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Speaker 3: I didn't speak much growing up. I didn't speak much

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Speaker 3: Because I was really junior high, middle school, high school,

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Speaker 3: it was it was just sports. It wasn't even school.

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Speaker 3: It was just play sports. Go to school so you

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Speaker 2: Who is this guy?

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Speaker 1: What happened?

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I think I don't know. I don't

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Speaker 3: Maybe I just didn't you know, what happened is I think,

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Speaker 3: Oh my mom, I don't get in trouble for this.

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Speaker 3: We went we lived in a different district than where

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Speaker 3: I grew up in a neighborhood called Golden Heights, which

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Speaker 1: I love that. So sports was something I feel like

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Speaker 1: So for me it was competition, cheerleading and gymnastics. But

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Speaker 3: I think I always did, and not in the acting,

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Speaker 2: I was like, this is nuts. And this is before

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Speaker 2: In eighth grade, everything always is clearer in hindsight. But

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Speaker 3: One time I snuck out to the cafeteria to audition

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Speaker 2: I don't know why I did it. I wasn't prepared.

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Speaker 2: And I was like, what you like song? So they're like,

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Speaker 2: The next day they were like, yeah, you got it.

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Speaker 3: Now, I kind of, you know, I wanted to, a

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Speaker 2: So I was like, I got to get out of

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Speaker 3: I just didn't like what I saw in there as

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Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, So I got out, and uh, I

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Speaker 1: Got that's what the people said.

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Speaker 2: They said, I've been hearing it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah no, but I had been scouted and I was like,

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Speaker 1: I love that, so modeling into acting. The first time

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Speaker 1: I saw you was DR from Detroit, and I was like,

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Speaker 1: they had me, actually do We've talked about it.

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Speaker 1: They had me do a video to promote the show

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Speaker 1: Like you got Morris Chestnut. I was like, you got

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Speaker 1: this guy who I didn't know that I was like Shannon,

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Speaker 1: It was like you couldn't forget you. It's like when

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Speaker 1: So what was it like? Because you've been on the

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Speaker 1: other shows City on the Hill, Beauty in Black, Divorce

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Speaker 2: That was the thing. I don't know. Up until that point,

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Speaker 3: Shows that nobody saw, like great critically acclaimed shows like

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Speaker 3: City on a Hill was a great experience, it's our showtime.

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Speaker 2: It's yeah, al this is.

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Speaker 1: Kevin Bake and me, isn't that crazy?

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Speaker 4: I just had one of those issues like this is

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Speaker 4: to do the job and then I was telling somebody

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Speaker 4: the other day, you do the job and then you

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Speaker 3: Go because you can't be precious to it. You don't

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Speaker 3: know how it's going to be received. Do the thing,

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Speaker 3: and you just you hope it's good and you hope

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Speaker 3: it leads to another job. Maybe it will be the one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, like so there are from Detroit.

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Speaker 3: It came and it still had that feeling because I

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Speaker 3: and that that was.

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Speaker 2: That became important to me and my work. It was like,

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Speaker 2: you have to you have to leave the impact, right,

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Speaker 2: this show is basically about you without.

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Speaker 3: You being there remembered. So I had that. That became

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Speaker 2: You constantly do that. Your story is nuts, you're annoying,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I had to hustle, but it comes from egos like, man,

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Speaker 1: I love this. So you've done so many things and

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Speaker 2: Yes, don't particularly like it, like that's it, you know, creatively,

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Speaker 1: We do have to shoot. Yes, I would love that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been wondering why you haven't asked him to

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Speaker 2: So it was a story that I needed to tell,

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Speaker 3: Telling this story to me was more powerful than me

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you did open up about losing your brother, and

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Speaker 3: I'm like what And then my dad calls me and

443
00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:08,040
Speaker 3: my dad is talking too fast. I'm like what he

444
00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:11,840
Speaker 3: was at a casino, like he wasn't. That's just what

445
00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:14,840
Speaker 3: I heard, So I'm confused. I hopped in an.

446
00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:16,680
Speaker 2: Uber and I went out.

447
00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:19,560
Speaker 3: You know, I went out to the island and met everybody.

448
00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:22,520
Speaker 3: My entire family was there, and we kind of just

449
00:21:23,320 --> 00:21:24,520
Speaker 3: you know, we dealt with it.

450
00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:29,560
Speaker 2: And then and then I didn't deal with it. You know,

451
00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:32,000
Speaker 2: it was so weird. I wish I could play back.

452
00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:36,520
Speaker 2: I'm the oldest of five and I didn't know.

453
00:21:37,440 --> 00:21:40,639
Speaker 3: I didn't know how to handle something like that, like me,

454
00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:44,199
Speaker 3: my brother, and then have three younger sisters, and I

455
00:21:44,280 --> 00:21:48,199
Speaker 3: just wanted I wanted to kill somebody like myself. I

456
00:21:48,280 --> 00:21:50,879
Speaker 3: really had to remove myself, so I wasn't there for

457
00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:51,480
Speaker 3: my sisters.

458
00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:54,920
Speaker 2: I really had to go away. I took the car

459
00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:57,679
Speaker 2: and I just left, and I was gone for a

460
00:21:57,760 --> 00:21:58,320
Speaker 2: long time.

461
00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:00,920
Speaker 3: So I wasn't I wasn't there when they got the news.

462
00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,000
Speaker 3: I wasn't there for them when they got the news.

463
00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:05,840
Speaker 3: So that is that's that kills me today. You know,

464
00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:08,280
Speaker 3: it drives me nuts. But I didn't know any other

465
00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:09,159
Speaker 3: way to handle.

466
00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:11,359
Speaker 2: It, Like, how how do you like?

467
00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:14,159
Speaker 3: I just I wanted to go on a spree, right,

468
00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,400
Speaker 3: But you know, I just needed to find.

469
00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:21,040
Speaker 2: I don't even want to say peace. I didn't find piece.

470
00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:22,560
Speaker 2: It took it. It took me a very long time

471
00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:24,760
Speaker 2: to find peace. But I just needed to remove myself

472
00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:29,800
Speaker 2: from everybody. And then when I came back, it was Okay,

473
00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:31,399
Speaker 2: what do we do next? How do we know about this?

474
00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:33,760
Speaker 2: That's playing this thing right? Yeah?

475
00:22:34,400 --> 00:22:36,320
Speaker 1: Did you ever have to go through any therapy to

476
00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:38,919
Speaker 1: really like deal with the guilt and those thoughts that

477
00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:39,560
Speaker 1: you had?

478
00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:39,960
Speaker 2: Yeah?

479
00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,720
Speaker 3: I never pulled the trigger on it. I knew that

480
00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:46,160
Speaker 3: I should, but I never I never did. I think

481
00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:49,240
Speaker 3: I don't know. I thought I could man through it.

482
00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:53,800
Speaker 3: I thought I could, you know, control this thing, because

483
00:22:53,800 --> 00:22:55,840
Speaker 3: there was a lot of I'll tell you at that

484
00:22:56,119 --> 00:23:02,399
Speaker 3: At the same time, I'm like, is really good? And

485
00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:06,680
Speaker 3: then acting took off the next year, and I see

486
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:09,240
Speaker 3: it happen to people all the time, where this traumatic

487
00:23:09,320 --> 00:23:12,640
Speaker 3: thing happens and then they just catapult them to these

488
00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:16,280
Speaker 3: new heights, and it happened to me. So I'm working

489
00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:18,560
Speaker 3: and I'm like, I'm good.

490
00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:18,960
Speaker 2: This is cool.

491
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:19,240
Speaker 1: Yeah.

492
00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:22,880
Speaker 3: The problem with that, though, is specifically in the way

493
00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 3: that my brother was killed is we didn't know who

494
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:30,440
Speaker 3: did it. So now I'm out and about and people

495
00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:33,840
Speaker 3: are recognizing me and that I can't tell what kind

496
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:38,680
Speaker 3: of stare that is. So now and I'm still enraged, right,

497
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,800
Speaker 3: I still have this thing driving me nuts.

498
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:43,000
Speaker 2: So I couldn't be in public.

499
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,760
Speaker 3: So then that I had a show called American Soul

500
00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:50,080
Speaker 3: that came out and it was decently received, and I,

501
00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:53,360
Speaker 3: you know, it was my first big thing. I couldn't

502
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:57,680
Speaker 3: enjoy that because I didn't know. I wasn't comfortable around people.

503
00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:00,800
Speaker 3: Anybody could have been the one that, you know, and

504
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,160
Speaker 3: now I got people looking at me from across the.

505
00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 2: Room and look at me. It's a whole different thing.

506
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:10,960
Speaker 3: I had to I left the business I had. I said,

507
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:11,800
Speaker 3: I don't want this thing.

508
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:13,639
Speaker 2: I can't. I don't know how to deal with that

509
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,880
Speaker 2: because I'm still you know, I'm still seeing red. Yes,

510
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:20,879
Speaker 2: you know, I had to. I left. I left the

511
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:23,199
Speaker 2: entire year of twenty nineteen. That's why if you look

512
00:24:23,240 --> 00:24:26,240
Speaker 2: at my resume, I went every two years. Right, there's gas.

513
00:24:26,840 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 2: That was the reason for that gap.

514
00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 3: But it wasn't until City on a Hill that I

515
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 3: was able to work through that thing. Because there was

516
00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:42,879
Speaker 3: a scene where my character, his younger brother, gets in trouble.

517
00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 3: He's cornered, they got him, they pull guns, Big Bro

518
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,159
Speaker 3: pulls up, just start shooting.

519
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:51,880
Speaker 2: Saves his brother gets there in time.

520
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:57,800
Speaker 3: Performing that thing, and my body feeling what that felt.

521
00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:03,160
Speaker 2: Like saved me really did, because it did.

522
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,880
Speaker 3: It was it was nuts, but being able to perform

523
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 3: that thing, getting my nervous system, putting my nervous system

524
00:25:10,880 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 3: through that thing, yeah, was my therapy.

525
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:15,280
Speaker 2: I was okay after that.

526
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,040
Speaker 3: I shot it that day, I shot that scene. That day,

527
00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 3: I went home, I cried, and the next day I'm fine.

528
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 1: That was your therapy.

529
00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:25,200
Speaker 2: That was my therapy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, but I do

530
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:30,080
Speaker 2: I do recommend. I do recommend grief therapy. That was

531
00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,440
Speaker 2: for me. That was a little over two years later.

532
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I probably could have gotten there a lot sooner,

533
00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 3: but I just had I don't know, there was so

534
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:40,360
Speaker 3: many things that, you know, toxic masculinity. I'm sure.

535
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:42,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have something to do with it.

536
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:44,199
Speaker 1: Like you know when you said I can push through this,

537
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 1: I can man through it like that. I think that's

538
00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,159
Speaker 1: something that a lot of our black men try to

539
00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,359
Speaker 1: do with a lot of situations in life. Yeah, and

540
00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:54,320
Speaker 1: then something comes and hits you head on where you're like,

541
00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:55,840
Speaker 1: I gotta deal with this, I.

542
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 2: Gotta confront, I gotta in front. And you know what

543
00:25:58,000 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 2: another thing is like I have a lot of.

544
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 3: I have a lot of women in my life, like

545
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:07,680
Speaker 3: I have all aunts, Like I don't have any uncles

546
00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:14,080
Speaker 3: by birth, marriage, my whole family, and they were even

547
00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 3: my friendships just solid.

548
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:22,720
Speaker 2: My foundation is really solid. And I give a lot

549
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:25,400
Speaker 2: of it to them because I wasn't easy. I wasn't

550
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 2: an easy person to deal with during that time.

551
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:28,920
Speaker 1: I can imagine I.

552
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:32,320
Speaker 3: Wasn't and and all of them stuck by me. And

553
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:34,120
Speaker 3: you know, we're accessible when I needed them.

554
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:37,679
Speaker 1: Shout out to the women in Yes, shout out to

555
00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 1: black women. I love that you are now a writer,

556
00:26:43,000 --> 00:26:48,040
Speaker 1: a director telling your own stories. You are. We're going

557
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:52,680
Speaker 1: to talk about it, but I want to know has

558
00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 1: your life and how you've seen storytelling told from other

559
00:26:56,600 --> 00:26:59,359
Speaker 1: people's perspectives, is that what push you to start writing

560
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:00,920
Speaker 1: and directing your own?

561
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:03,560
Speaker 2: Ego goes neck.

562
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,439
Speaker 1: I love how honest you are. He's like, ego, I

563
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 1: can do that. Let's talk about it.

564
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:13,399
Speaker 2: That's okay, Yes, I'll pick that up. Back to acting.

565
00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 3: The reason I chose acting is I lived in Vegas

566
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 3: after college and I was living.

567
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 2: With a boxer. It's an old friend of mine and

568
00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 2: uh one of his best friends is Lorenz Tate.

569
00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:28,919
Speaker 3: Okay, so we had a memorial date barbecue in the

570
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:29,600
Speaker 3: back of the crib.

571
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 2: I'm, you know, shooting hoops ball. It's like a movie.

572
00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 2: Ball rolls off the court. I'm following the ball hit

573
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,800
Speaker 2: somebody's feet. I look up or I look down.

574
00:27:40,840 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 1: Look you did not look up.

575
00:27:42,640 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 2: Look And it was Lorenz And I'm like, oh, snap,

576
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:52,440
Speaker 2: Like whoa buddy? Like because for me, no friends everything.

577
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,040
Speaker 2: Love Jones of my favorite movies to this day.

578
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,160
Speaker 3: So at the time, this was the This is also

579
00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:59,040
Speaker 3: the first person I ever met that was on TV.

580
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,800
Speaker 3: I was like eight, it's like twenty. I turned twenty

581
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 3: one in Vegas. So I'm you know, and it was

582
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,680
Speaker 3: meeting him that oh.

583
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 2: Wow, and no offense. It's like this is just the guy,

584
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:16,280
Speaker 2: Like this is this is the guy, but you're just

585
00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:16,680
Speaker 2: the guy.

586
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:17,400
Speaker 1: Yeah.

587
00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 2: That thing in me that I have a really competitive thing.

588
00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,439
Speaker 2: If you can do it, I can do it. Like

589
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:26,399
Speaker 2: if you can do it, I can do it.

590
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 3: That's the thing that sparked me. So I went back

591
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 3: to college. I took out all the books on acting, and.

592
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 1: That's what kind of research got me there.

593
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 3: So with with writing, it's almost the same thing, except

594
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:45,040
Speaker 3: with the acting. Up until well now today, I'm not

595
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 3: really I still don't feel like anybody's let me act.

596
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 2: I never got a chance to act. I do this

597
00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:54,240
Speaker 2: thing and it's really specific, and they keep hiring me

598
00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 2: to do the thing.

599
00:28:55,800 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 3: But to me, it's like, you know, right, like nobody

600
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 3: knows how good of an actor I am.

601
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 2: Still I know, but nobody knows. I don't get the opportunity.

602
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 2: So I wrote.

603
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 3: What I feel like was an opportunity for myself. So

604
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:20,240
Speaker 3: I wrote this this film Channels with I filled it

605
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 3: with five characters, five archetypes that I was like, that'll

606
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 3: be cool. And then I got colored these characters in

607
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 3: ways that I feel they should be colored, you know,

608
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 3: like fine, fine strokes instead of the broad strokes, you know,

609
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 3: And yeah, yeah.

610
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 2: That that's what That's what drove me to it.

611
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:43,080
Speaker 3: And then in writing it, I just figured I had

612
00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 3: to direct it. Tyler, I'm coming out of like coming

613
00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 3: out of TPS.

614
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 1: Like I can do everything project.

615
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:52,480
Speaker 2: I was like, if you can do it, I can

616
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 2: do it. And I told them that the same thing.

617
00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:55,600
Speaker 2: For sure.

618
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 3: There's a little toxic in there, but I needed you know,

619
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 3: if you can do this thing, I can do this thing.

620
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 2: The guy really at.

621
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 1: The end of the day, I can do that.

622
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, do that.

623
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,560
Speaker 1: He inspires a lot of people to go bigger than

624
00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:09,520
Speaker 1: what they thought, you know, get out of the box

625
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 1: and do it.

626
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:12,520
Speaker 2: I told him, I'm gonna catch you. He was like,

627
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 2: you can try.

628
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:16,160
Speaker 1: Try.

629
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he.

630
00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 1: Wants you to try, you know, he does, and he

631
00:30:20,040 --> 00:30:22,240
Speaker 1: pushes you to try. That's what. Yeah.

632
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,040
Speaker 2: So I called him. As soon as I made a

633
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 2: decision about directing. I called him. I said, hey, man,

634
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 2: give me advice.

635
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:27,000
Speaker 1: Yeah.

636
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 2: He was like, own it.

637
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 1: I love that. You just crazy just called Berry It's

638
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 1: nuts and be like, hey, I'm doing this thing. What

639
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 1: should I do?

640
00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:39,320
Speaker 2: How do I do it? Yeah, you've done all of

641
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 2: the things. How do I do this thing? Yeah? This thing?

642
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:45,040
Speaker 3: And he didn't give me directing advice because he's like,

643
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 3: you don't need that, you need the executive.

644
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 2: Ad Yep, own it. I love that.

645
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:51,560
Speaker 3: Yeah.

646
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 1: We shot that. It was that to three days and

647
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 1: two days, two days. Yeah, that was awesome. Yeah, you

648
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 1: have to. Well, in this season of my life, I'm

649
00:31:03,800 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 1: very intentional about creating with my friends, and I think

650
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 1: that we are the future of filmmaking, and it's up

651
00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 1: to us. Now that we have these seats, what are

652
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:13,880
Speaker 1: we doing with it?

653
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 2: You know?

654
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 1: So when I heard you were doing I'm like, let's

655
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 1: go crazy.

656
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 2: I did.

657
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 1: Yes, it was so good. I'm so excited about it.

658
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:23,720
Speaker 2: I can't wait for I can't either.

659
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 1: It's gonna be amazing. But you also have a new project,

660
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,160
Speaker 1: a story about you that is going to be premiering

661
00:31:30,240 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 1: a slam dance. Let's talk about that. I'm excited that

662
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 1: you have. You're just doing a lot of things. I

663
00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:36,680
Speaker 1: thought I didn't know you had something else you were

664
00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:37,440
Speaker 1: working on too.

665
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 2: So yeah, working, Yeah, I've been producing for a while.

666
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 2: But that's that's like behind the scenes. But are you

667
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 2: in this tuies? Yeah? Okay, so yeah I'm in this one. Yeah.

668
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 2: This was so Yeah.

669
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 3: This this film is about It's about a man who,

670
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 3: in the course of a week, the five women he's

671
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 3: done with all leave him for different reasons.

672
00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 2: So this is it's like a he's a serial dater

673
00:32:06,240 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 2: and he's uh, you know, he's flawed, and they all

674
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 2: point out a different flow and he discovers himself through

675
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 2: these women, and it's about uh, his journey towards Why

676
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:29,360
Speaker 2: are you laughing? Why I took it? Why relate? What's

677
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 2: the draw? Yeah? No, I saw me.

678
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was nuts when it came, I was I

679
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 3: had to Yeah, I had to do it. It was

680
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 3: I saw myself on that page, and not not because

681
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:51,560
Speaker 3: I juggle people, you know, like I've I've been in many, many, many,

682
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 3: many long term relationships, but I don't take time in between,

683
00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 3: you know.

684
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 2: And that was that was the thing. It was I.

685
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,720
Speaker 3: Learned something from this relationship, and I carry it and

686
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 3: I want to put it into practice on the next

687
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 3: one immediately, immediately. And I saw that in this guy,

688
00:33:08,400 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 3: like these women are teaching you. Each one of them

689
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 3: is teaching you something about yourself. So I've learned. I've

690
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:19,040
Speaker 3: probably learned more about myself the relationship than any other avenue,

691
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 3: you know.

692
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 2: So I needed to tell this guy's story. So yeah,

693
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 2: we shot this. It's a it's a Brooklyn love story.

694
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 2: It's yeah, it's in New York.

695
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:29,120
Speaker 4: Ya.

696
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 1: It all felt like I'm sure like me on this page.

697
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 2: When I'm reading this guy, it was nuts. He's a writer,

698
00:33:36,440 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 2: you know, he's a he's an artist. He's a writer,

699
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:42,760
Speaker 2: he's a he's a Brooklyn dude who's.

700
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:46,400
Speaker 3: Just love life was in shambles, you know, but he

701
00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 3: wants to he wants to do it the right way.

702
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:52,680
Speaker 2: He wants to learn these things, you know, these women.

703
00:33:52,920 --> 00:33:56,120
Speaker 3: It was also an opportunity for me where I saw

704
00:33:56,120 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 3: it as an opportunity to spotlight these whoever these actresses

705
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 3: were going to be the majority of the film. The

706
00:34:03,880 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 3: film is told in vignettes, so it's it's through that

707
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 3: this this like really romantic language that the writer Denisio

708
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 3: lenn she she's incredible. But the way that she had

709
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,879
Speaker 3: written this dialogue about these these women telling this guy

710
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:21,440
Speaker 3: about himself, it was it was wrapped in poetry.

711
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:26,920
Speaker 2: It was almost like soliloquies. So just providing a space

712
00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:30,239
Speaker 2: for these women to say the words, you know, and

713
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 2: just being on the receiving end, it is something that

714
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,359
Speaker 2: I just needed personally, but professionally, I was like, let's

715
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 2: shine the light on these these actresses, you know, like

716
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 2: let's and they all killed it. They all killed it.

717
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:46,239
Speaker 2: So yeah, we premiere on slam Dance next month, which

718
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:50,160
Speaker 2: that's nuts. We weren't expecting, really we weren't.

719
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,000
Speaker 1: No, I think great that stuff like that happens when

720
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 1: you're not expecting it.

721
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, it really came out of nowhere. Yeah.

722
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, we had been working on it for three years

723
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 3: almost and you know, our first festival run, we just

724
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,399
Speaker 3: didn't We weren't happy with the product. So we went

725
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 3: back into the edit for it to be like, you know,

726
00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 3: accepted and redeemed in that way.

727
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,320
Speaker 2: It was as a producer that was incredible.

728
00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 1: I love that.

729
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:16,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, I love that.

730
00:35:17,080 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 1: So this is the perfect segue to talk about love. Yeah,

731
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 1: let's talk about it, Shannon. Yeah, sir, because I know

732
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 1: the ladies want to know. They already speculate that we

733
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 1: go together.

734
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 2: We don't. We don't.

735
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 1: We don't go together.

736
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,840
Speaker 2: We do not we don't go together. Yeah, stay with me.

737
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:45,360
Speaker 2: We don't go to Okay anymore. Know your people are crazy,

738
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 2: They're crazy.

739
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:50,440
Speaker 1: So I know everyone wants to know, like about your

740
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 1: love life. You know, you are the heart thrive. They

741
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 1: want to know what does Shannon have going on?

742
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 2: Yeah?

743
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:59,760
Speaker 1: Are you in a relationship? Are you single?

744
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:00,720
Speaker 4: Are you dating?

745
00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:10,359
Speaker 2: I am yes, I'm taking exclusive?

746
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay it yeah, if anybody gonna get exclusive, I

747
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:16,040
Speaker 3: appreciate that.

748
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:20,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, I am taking I'm very happy.

749
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:25,759
Speaker 1: I love that. I'm so happy for you. Friend. That

750
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:31,800
Speaker 1: really Okay, So you said the movie a story about

751
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 1: you kind of mirrored your old habits. Have what did

752
00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:38,879
Speaker 1: you learn from that and that you're carrying into this

753
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:40,520
Speaker 1: new relationship.

754
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 2: From the film, Yeah, into.

755
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 1: Your real life. We're keeping it personal.

756
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 2: Shut up and listen.

757
00:36:47,680 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.

758
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:56,280
Speaker 3: No, really, though, I I choose people who.

759
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 2: Are smarter than me, like in many ways, and and

760
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:06,719
Speaker 2: I don't know, I don't know if it's a Gemini thing.

761
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 3: I have, I have gut, and I have I have

762
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 3: three I have gut, I have had, I have you know,

763
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 3: and they're they're constantly conflicting, like one tries to rationalize

764
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,280
Speaker 3: the other tries to rationalize the other, and they're always

765
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:26,280
Speaker 3: fighting each other. And to me, with me, it presents

766
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:34,319
Speaker 3: that presents as mood, like it presents as shift or

767
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,200
Speaker 3: change when I'm each when I'm in each of one

768
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 3: of these, you know. But what I'm learning is that

769
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 3: the women that I've been with, the women that I've

770
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:53,160
Speaker 3: spent like the most time with, identify that thing before

771
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:56,720
Speaker 3: I do. Wow, you know, like they're they're just smarter

772
00:37:56,840 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 3: than me in that way. So I'm learning to listen

773
00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 3: earlier to that thing where they diagnose it. They see

774
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 3: it and they're like, you're doing this thing. I know

775
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:12,520
Speaker 3: why you're doing this thing, And now I'm just listening

776
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,800
Speaker 3: to that instead of just tracking it down and making

777
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:17,840
Speaker 3: it make sense for me, right, you know, like that's

778
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:19,960
Speaker 3: the most valuable thing that I'm finding.

779
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, Yeah, it's.

780
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 3: Weird because I'm still learning and I'm like kind of

781
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:39,240
Speaker 3: almost lost the thing because of that, you know, almost

782
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:44,759
Speaker 3: lost the person. Yeah, because of that thing and ego yea.

783
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 1: And women go through the same thing, like, yeah, there

784
00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:50,880
Speaker 1: are times I have to talk myself out of like

785
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 1: a thought because I'm about to miss this thing up.

786
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:56,399
Speaker 1: You know. We can get in our heads too, for sure.

787
00:38:56,600 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, I live up there. I live up there.

788
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm I'm I'm learning, but I'm really optimistic.

789
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:07,759
Speaker 3: Like I've never had a bad relationship.

790
00:39:07,800 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 2: I've always had. Every one of my relationships is a success.

791
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:12,800
Speaker 2: Like my shortest is three years.

792
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:23,360
Speaker 3: Well yeah, you said like your long term things three three, six, four, Yeah,

793
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 3: it's yeah, I'm learning, but I'm excited. I've learned a lot.

794
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:27,680
Speaker 3: I think I got it, you know.

795
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 1: I.

796
00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:33,960
Speaker 2: Hope so I do. Because there is something about me too,

797
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 2: is that I don't date just the date, like.

798
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 1: Come on and talk about it.

799
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's good. Don't so you date to stop dating?

800
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 3: Like take me off the market please, Like I'm talking.

801
00:39:49,880 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 2: Like that is that is always my intention going in.

802
00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 2: It's not get me the streets. I'm trying to like

803
00:39:56,520 --> 00:39:58,880
Speaker 2: every person that I choose is my person.

804
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 1: U you know, Oh my god, we were one in

805
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 1: the same Shannon, Like literally I knew that. Where have

806
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 1: you been? Like I do that?

807
00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:11,240
Speaker 2: Don't do that, don't do that.

808
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 1: But like seriously, I'm the same way, like you're my

809
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 1: person until you are not. Yeah, I get that.

810
00:40:19,840 --> 00:40:20,880
Speaker 2: That's also tricky.

811
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 3: That's also tricky because it's not a lot of people

812
00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 3: think like that, and people kind of grow in relationship

813
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 3: and I just throw it all at you from the

814
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:32,319
Speaker 3: jump because I'm locked in, Yes, this is.

815
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,760
Speaker 2: What it is. Yeah. Yeah.

816
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 1: Would you classify yourself as a hopeless romantic?

817
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 2: Why are you laughing?

818
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:49,640
Speaker 1: Because I am, oh.

819
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, hopeless romantic.

820
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 1: Yeah.

821
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:58,479
Speaker 3: I crave intimacy. I crave closeness in a physical sense,

822
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 3: but also in that in love of sense and that thing.

823
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 3: I'm yeah, I'm addicted to it. I can say that

824
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:13,839
Speaker 3: like I'm addicted to that hopeless romantic. Nobody's ever called

825
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 3: me romantic, so I'm like, can I call myself like

826
00:41:16,640 --> 00:41:17,160
Speaker 3: it's weird?

827
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 1: Do you feel like you're so you're not really like?

828
00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:23,600
Speaker 1: Do you not like you're so romantic? So you don't like?

829
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:27,319
Speaker 1: Do you get flowers?

830
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 2: Things I've learned?

831
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 1: Smart man, smart Let me tell you.

832
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 2: I was just having this conversation. Let me explain this

833
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 2: to you. The thing.

834
00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:41,799
Speaker 3: Okay, I was in a relationship, like all relationships, and

835
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 3: she wants flowers, and I'm okay, okay, you want flowers, right?

836
00:41:46,480 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 2: Why do you want flowers?

837
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter why she wants the.

838
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:54,879
Speaker 2: Flowers, all all the same. Listen, check this out. Why

839
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 2: do you you with me? Why did you want these flowers?

840
00:41:58,840 --> 00:42:00,839
Speaker 3: You don't even know why you want them, but you do.

841
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:06,399
Speaker 3: And I think the reason you want them is it's consideration, right, Yeah,

842
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 3: So I can give you that consideration in different ways

843
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:10,360
Speaker 3: than just these flowers.

844
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 2: These flowers amative.

845
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 3: If I'm just doing it because you ask me for it,

846
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 3: how about it's not tell me more?

847
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 1: Okay? For me, I love fresh flowers. It's something about

848
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:24,799
Speaker 1: walking into my kitchen or my living room and like

849
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 1: seeing a fresh bouquet of flowers even for me, like

850
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:29,240
Speaker 1: I'll go to the store and make my own arrangement

851
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 1: if I have to. I'd love flowers that much. But

852
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 1: the thought of my man like just sending me flowers

853
00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 1: because he thought of me, or I'm so proud of you.

854
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:41,080
Speaker 1: You just accomplish something and I want to let you

855
00:42:41,160 --> 00:42:44,880
Speaker 1: know that I see you. It is the consideration. But

856
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:48,799
Speaker 1: also if there's probably some things that she may not

857
00:42:48,920 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 1: understand that you want done, and she's not going to

858
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 1: be like, I'm just doing it because you asked me

859
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 1: to do it. I'm doing it because this makes you

860
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 1: happy and this makes you feel considered.

861
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,840
Speaker 2: Okay, so get the flowers. Well, at the end of

862
00:43:02,840 --> 00:43:05,279
Speaker 2: the day, I'm getting the flowers. Just have a hard

863
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:06,360
Speaker 2: time with why I'm getting this.

864
00:43:06,719 --> 00:43:09,839
Speaker 1: Right because it makes her heavy bottom line.

865
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 2: Yes see, but you actually love flowers.

866
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:13,480
Speaker 1: I do right, like flowers.

867
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:16,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, that tracks. But if you don't love flowers and

868
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 2: you love the act of receiving flowers, I think I

869
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 2: can I can scratch that. It's in a lot more ways.

870
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:23,360
Speaker 2: I'm going to do the flowers.

871
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:27,160
Speaker 1: But maybe if it's consideration, if that's the root the

872
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 1: root of.

873
00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:31,439
Speaker 3: It, consideration, let's let's diversify, so I'm not just doing

874
00:43:31,480 --> 00:43:32,959
Speaker 3: this thing out of habit Oh for sure.

875
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:35,319
Speaker 2: No, you know yeah, I like that.

876
00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:37,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love that. You got like, what's your wife

877
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:38,800
Speaker 1: tell me about?

878
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:42,040
Speaker 2: I understand, I'm getting the flowers. I just got to

879
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:48,520
Speaker 2: let you know flowers I'm at I'm at the flowers.

880
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 1: Shot right, send her flowers today, just because I promised you.

881
00:43:53,239 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 1: It'll be worth it next time you see her. Thank

882
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:59,480
Speaker 1: you so much, did an incredible conversation. We are going

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Speaker 1: to support you and everything you have going on. Can

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Speaker 1: you please let our audience know. I mean they already

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Speaker 1: support you there, they troll you every day. Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: how can we really support you?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? I got yes, cool man, thank you? Yeah, thank you?

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Speaker 2: I got we have channels.

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Speaker 1: Yes, we have channels.

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Speaker 2: We have channels. That's a short film that'll be be out.

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Speaker 2: We're any edit. I just saw our locked cut.

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Speaker 1: Really, you're incredible, very excited.

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Speaker 2: You're going to thank you. It's great. Yeah, that'll be

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Speaker 2: out middle of the year. The story about You is.

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Speaker 3: Premier in that slam Dance February twenty first and twenty fourth,

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Speaker 3: wow uh Jahn from Detroit season two hopefully coming this spring.

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Speaker 3: It'll be this year, but we don't know when exactly,

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Speaker 3: hopefully spring.

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Speaker 1: We're excited about that, very excited about that. And you're

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Speaker 1: in it? Are you in it?

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Speaker 2: A mi inute? Okay?

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Speaker 1: Right? Yeah, like you more than like.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'll tell you. Like, Actually, I had said

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Speaker 2: earlier that I hadn't really gotten a chance to act.

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Speaker 2: They really threw Uh. They threw the book at me

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Speaker 2: this season. They really trusted me.

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Speaker 3: Because they had heard me voicing this thing that I

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Speaker 3: really wasn't given the opportunity, and they let me do

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Speaker 3: something that nobody's ever let me do before.

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Speaker 1: Shout out dr K Patrick.

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Speaker 2: Shout out d R K Patrick.

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Speaker 3: Miles like, yeah, they threw they threw so much at me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I cannot wait to see you.

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Speaker 2: It's so good. Yeah, and that is I love it.

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Speaker 2: And then we got we got a shoot coming up,

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Speaker 2: you and I.

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Speaker 1: Yes, photo shoot. It's crazy.

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Speaker 2: And we're going to do other things together too.

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Speaker 1: I can't wait.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna make movies and oh yeah, we're going to

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Speaker 2: do things. I need to learn from you. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: I'm here and learn from you as well, Shane. I

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Speaker 1: appreciate you.

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Speaker 2: You look good.

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Speaker 1: Thank you you two free. Yeah, today's conversation as a

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Speaker 1: reminder that growth doesn't always happen all at once. Sometimes

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Speaker 1: it happens while you're still trying to figure it out

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Speaker 1: in real time. Thank you for tuning in to another

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Speaker 1: episode of the Keep It Positive Sweety Show. Be sure

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Speaker 1: to subscribe, share this episode with someone who needs it

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Speaker 1: and is always stay blessed and stay encouraged and keep

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Speaker 1: it Positive, Sweety. I'll see you all next time.