WEBVTT - Episode 2: Martial Arts with Bryan Frasher 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:03.840 Hello, this is Christian Bush and welcome to episode two 0:00:03.920 --> 0:00:12.319 of Geeking Out, my new podcast. Every episode is a 0:00:12.360 --> 0:00:15.480 new person talking about what they're obsessed with that has 0:00:15.520 --> 0:00:18.400 nothing to do with their job. The only requirement is 0:00:18.440 --> 0:00:20.520 that they're totally geeking out on it and they want 0:00:20.520 --> 0:00:23.439 to talk about it. From bee keeping the craft beer 0:00:23.640 --> 0:00:26.880 from eighties TV shows to custom printed tennis shoes, from 0:00:26.880 --> 0:00:31.560 remodeling airstream trailers to collecting Game of Thrones bobbleheads. Tell 0:00:31.600 --> 0:00:34.159 me what you love, why you love it, how you 0:00:34.240 --> 0:00:38.879 got into it, and what makes it awesome. Every episode 0:00:38.960 --> 0:00:41.960 is presented in three chapters. Chapter one, my guest and 0:00:42.000 --> 0:00:45.479 I talk about what they're obsessed with. Chapter two is 0:00:45.520 --> 0:00:47.680 a game I call trade jo, where my guest and 0:00:47.720 --> 0:00:50.560 I turn each other on to one thing that we've discovered. 0:00:51.280 --> 0:00:54.280 And Chapter three closes the show with me talking about 0:00:54.360 --> 0:00:58.120 music that I'm currently geeking out on and why I 0:00:58.200 --> 0:01:01.520 believe that curiosity is can tageous and the life is 0:01:01.600 --> 0:01:11.120 better with a soundtrack. So let's go chapter one. Today, 0:01:11.160 --> 0:01:23.280 I visit with Mr Brian Fraser. Brian spent most of 0:01:23.280 --> 0:01:26.080 his life in the music business, first as a musician, 0:01:26.160 --> 0:01:29.040 then as a powerful record company executive and now as 0:01:29.080 --> 0:01:32.000 an artist manager. I recently worked with him when I 0:01:32.080 --> 0:01:35.360 produced one of his artists, Lindsea Yell, who you just heard. 0:01:36.040 --> 0:01:39.240 In working with Brian, I was taken by his personality, 0:01:39.480 --> 0:01:43.880 his knowledge, and his excitement about the entire world around him. Also, 0:01:43.959 --> 0:01:48.720 it should be said that Brian is very tall. He's fit, 0:01:49.160 --> 0:01:51.760 with a full head of blonde hair, and has likely 0:01:51.800 --> 0:01:54.400 had to bend down to hug everyone in his life, 0:01:55.600 --> 0:01:59.000 So I mean with Brian Fraser. Hey, hey, welcome to 0:01:59.040 --> 0:02:01.320 the podcast. So I have to be here. Podcast is 0:02:01.360 --> 0:02:05.600 currently happening in my home in Nashville, which is awesome, 0:02:05.640 --> 0:02:08.239 by the way, would you like to describe it for podcasters. 0:02:09.320 --> 0:02:12.880 I'm on the second floor, right near where the stairs 0:02:12.919 --> 0:02:15.440 come up from the entryway, and I'm looking at a 0:02:15.560 --> 0:02:18.720 wall of vinyl records and I don't think there's one 0:02:18.800 --> 0:02:21.920 up there that came out before h S admin and 0:02:21.919 --> 0:02:26.480 it's probably eight thrillers. What he was explaining to me 0:02:26.600 --> 0:02:30.160 how whoever comes in can rotate out whatever records they 0:02:30.160 --> 0:02:32.200 want to play. They just put new ones up every time. 0:02:32.440 --> 0:02:35.320 I think it's just such a great fun concept and 0:02:35.480 --> 0:02:37.240 just awesome. Thank you. It was a way for me 0:02:37.280 --> 0:02:41.360 to avoid decorating my place. So you you've heard the 0:02:41.400 --> 0:02:44.400 rules of the podcast. You I was briefed on the 0:02:44.480 --> 0:02:49.000 rules by Whitney. Okay, good, Whitney's here actually in the Yeah, 0:02:49.120 --> 0:02:51.240 we love having Whitney around. Um, we want to talk 0:02:51.280 --> 0:02:54.120 about what you are totally geeking out on right now. 0:02:54.160 --> 0:02:56.520 That is not your job. So first of all, you 0:02:56.600 --> 0:02:58.800 might want to just say what your job is so 0:02:59.080 --> 0:03:05.120 people can understand the distance and well, I mean, I 0:03:05.160 --> 0:03:07.160 mean currently in my third career. My first career was 0:03:07.160 --> 0:03:09.400 as a musician. My second one was as a record 0:03:09.480 --> 0:03:12.400 label guy. I was the vice president promotion of B 0:03:12.480 --> 0:03:16.120 and A Records, which was has since become Columbia Records 0:03:16.200 --> 0:03:20.160 Nashville under Sony Music. And I now am at Red 0:03:20.240 --> 0:03:23.480 Light Management and I managed Lindsay l and I co 0:03:23.600 --> 0:03:26.799 managed Craig Morgan. And I do radio promotion and marketing 0:03:26.880 --> 0:03:29.960 for whoever else on the Red Light roster might need 0:03:30.000 --> 0:03:33.040 it in terms of country radio. What are you geeking 0:03:33.080 --> 0:03:36.920 out on right now? Well, I'm geeking out on jiu 0:03:37.000 --> 0:03:42.560 jitsu martial arts in general, Brazilian jiu jitsu currently. Uh. 0:03:42.600 --> 0:03:46.000 But I have studied martial arts since I was twelve 0:03:46.080 --> 0:03:51.080 years old and I'm fifty two. Uh and uh it's 0:03:51.160 --> 0:03:53.360 something my brother and I started when we were kids. 0:03:53.400 --> 0:03:56.440 My father got us into it. I found out later 0:03:56.640 --> 0:04:00.920 his logic, which was incredibly sound for about as much 0:04:00.920 --> 0:04:03.440 of a redneck as you can get in West Virginia. Uh. 0:04:03.920 --> 0:04:06.960 He he told me when we were older, he said, 0:04:07.000 --> 0:04:10.920 I knew if I could get you boys into the 0:04:10.960 --> 0:04:13.120 martial arts, that you would always take care of your 0:04:13.120 --> 0:04:17.360 body and you always maintain a healthy lifestyle. Uh. If 0:04:17.480 --> 0:04:19.560 I could get you into this and you would fall 0:04:19.560 --> 0:04:21.279 in love with it, which both my brother and I 0:04:21.320 --> 0:04:23.839 did fall in love with. My brother actually has a 0:04:23.920 --> 0:04:27.680 school in Columbus, Ohio, and he's a very high ranking 0:04:27.680 --> 0:04:30.400 black belt in the Chuck Norris system, and like literally 0:04:30.440 --> 0:04:35.679 goes to Chuck's ranch and he's hold on the Chuck 0:04:35.720 --> 0:04:39.239 north system. Yeah, it's you found Unifighting Arts Federation of America, 0:04:40.000 --> 0:04:44.919 United Fighting Arts Federation. Chuck Norris's UH system is called 0:04:45.040 --> 0:04:48.760 Chun Cook Dough and it is based on tang Pudo, 0:04:49.240 --> 0:04:51.880 which was a Korean martial art, and it's a it's 0:04:51.920 --> 0:04:54.279 it's kind of like a taekwondo. There's a lot of 0:04:54.320 --> 0:04:56.600 high kicking, a lot of you know, punching, kicking, that 0:04:56.680 --> 0:04:59.719 kind of thing, and it's uh. There originally was a 0:04:59.720 --> 0:05:04.279 big point karate circuit that both my brother and I did. Uh. 0:05:04.360 --> 0:05:07.920 When we were younger, I fought in tournaments all rather 0:05:07.920 --> 0:05:10.599 than to my mid thirties, I was always training for 0:05:10.720 --> 0:05:13.400 or fighting in some kind of tournament of some sort. 0:05:14.320 --> 0:05:17.400 Norris system coming before the movies or did the movie. Well, 0:05:17.400 --> 0:05:19.080 here's the thing a lot of people don't understand about 0:05:19.120 --> 0:05:21.039 Chuck Norrith. Chuck Norris is the real deal man, I 0:05:21.040 --> 0:05:23.000 mean he is. He he was doing that and then 0:05:23.080 --> 0:05:25.200 got put into the movies because that's what he was. 0:05:25.279 --> 0:05:31.080 A world champion competitive karate uh fighter and and a 0:05:31.200 --> 0:05:34.360 kickboxer and he was for real all the way around. 0:05:34.680 --> 0:05:38.400 And he Bruce Lee picked him to be in the movie. 0:05:38.440 --> 0:05:40.359 I think it's Return of the Dragon that he's in 0:05:40.480 --> 0:05:43.039 and they have this fight in the Colosseum, and Bruce 0:05:43.120 --> 0:05:46.279 Lee had he had written the movie. Uh, and Bruce 0:05:47.160 --> 0:05:50.599 actually hand picked Chuck to play the guy the his 0:05:50.600 --> 0:05:54.960 his opponent. His Chuck is a bad guy in the movie. Huh. Right, 0:05:55.440 --> 0:05:59.440 So so there there's an incredible scene and as a musician, 0:05:59.520 --> 0:06:01.159 you will love it that this is the thing about 0:06:02.000 --> 0:06:05.760 martial arts for me is especially with jiu jitsu, it's 0:06:05.880 --> 0:06:10.600 so so many of the principles applied directly to music 0:06:10.680 --> 0:06:13.680 and your everyday life. And it's the principles and the 0:06:13.760 --> 0:06:17.920 concepts behind the techniques that work that make them work. 0:06:17.960 --> 0:06:20.400 And if you understand the principles of why something works, 0:06:20.440 --> 0:06:22.560 you can apply all across all areas of your life. 0:06:22.720 --> 0:06:25.160 You can apply it in music if you understand why, 0:06:25.800 --> 0:06:28.440 you know, this certain chord works over this harmonic structure 0:06:28.480 --> 0:06:31.120 or vice versa, then you can apply that in any key. Right, 0:06:31.520 --> 0:06:34.000 What's the same thing with a with a martial arts technique, 0:06:34.000 --> 0:06:36.279 if you understand it, you understand the principle of why 0:06:36.279 --> 0:06:38.560 it works, and your practice to a level that you 0:06:38.600 --> 0:06:42.120 can execute it, then you can you just create on 0:06:42.160 --> 0:06:45.920 the spot. It's a whole world of creation and immediacy 0:06:45.960 --> 0:06:49.240 that happens when you're when you're when you're actually doing it, 0:06:49.279 --> 0:06:52.080 you know. So. Uh. But anyway, so back to the 0:06:52.160 --> 0:06:54.680 musician part with Chuck Norris and Bruce Lee. They had 0:06:55.120 --> 0:06:57.280 at the end of returning to the Dragon, there's this this, 0:06:57.400 --> 0:06:59.640 and I believe it's returning to the Dragon. There's uh, 0:07:00.360 --> 0:07:03.440 there's the fight scene, the final climactic fight scene between 0:07:03.480 --> 0:07:07.080 Bruce Lee and Chuck Norris, the characters, and they're in 0:07:07.200 --> 0:07:11.679 the Roman Coliscene during the coliseum room, and you see, 0:07:12.080 --> 0:07:15.680 you can you can see this developed. At first, Bruce 0:07:16.160 --> 0:07:18.680 is his character is trying to fight the Chuck North 0:07:18.760 --> 0:07:22.720 style fight, and the music sounds a certain way. It's 0:07:22.840 --> 0:07:25.520 very stiff. It's very staunch, you know, it's it's very 0:07:25.720 --> 0:07:30.560 very um um. It's predictable. The music is predictable, right, 0:07:31.480 --> 0:07:33.880 and then so Bruce takes a couple of shots and 0:07:33.920 --> 0:07:36.840 then he realizes, I've got to fight my own way. 0:07:37.000 --> 0:07:39.080 You can, if you know the concepts behind it, you 0:07:39.080 --> 0:07:41.200 can see the wheels turning in the movie. Because Bruce 0:07:41.280 --> 0:07:43.840 Lee directed this, he shot the whole thing. And when 0:07:43.880 --> 0:07:46.920 he starts realizing that he needs to fight his way, 0:07:47.320 --> 0:07:50.560 his own and and express himself his own way, the 0:07:50.720 --> 0:07:55.360 music changes to it, and then it's a real improvisational 0:07:55.440 --> 0:07:59.360 kind of like funky jazz, like that early seventies progressive 0:07:59.440 --> 0:08:02.520 jazz kind of sound. It goes the music changes to that, 0:08:02.640 --> 0:08:06.680 and Bruce just starts he's stopping every punch he's hitting it. 0:08:06.720 --> 0:08:10.160 And then you see him defeat Chuck and he's upset 0:08:10.560 --> 0:08:12.320 that he has to kill him in the end because 0:08:12.400 --> 0:08:15.120 this was such a worthy opponent. You know, it's it's 0:08:16.400 --> 0:08:19.840 you know, if you understand the philosophy behind this, it 0:08:19.960 --> 0:08:24.320 is incredible to understand how that that. You you need 0:08:24.360 --> 0:08:26.760 to watch that movie and even if you fast forward 0:08:26.800 --> 0:08:29.680 to the last like ten fifteen minutes to the Colosseum 0:08:29.720 --> 0:08:35.079 stuff and watched that scene understanding the concepts of how 0:08:35.080 --> 0:08:40.040 it was why all I mean the and now that 0:08:40.120 --> 0:08:42.640 was at the time period in Bruce Lee's life when 0:08:42.720 --> 0:08:47.040 he was he had he had just written the kind 0:08:47.040 --> 0:08:49.800 of the philosophy, the Tao of jeep Kundo and jee 0:08:49.840 --> 0:08:52.040 Kundo was his style of martial arts that he developed. 0:08:52.120 --> 0:08:55.160 It's called it's a way of the intercepting fist and 0:08:55.840 --> 0:09:00.200 based on based on oh dude, everything, I mean, there's 0:09:00.240 --> 0:09:04.680 been movies made so but it's uh. It's The beautiful 0:09:04.720 --> 0:09:11.319 thing about uh Bruce's art je condo was that he 0:09:11.320 --> 0:09:13.760 he took all of the things that he found practical 0:09:13.800 --> 0:09:16.560 and worked from all the different fighting systems. He took 0:09:16.679 --> 0:09:19.280 a boxing stance before you put your hands in boxing stand. 0:09:19.320 --> 0:09:23.200 He took that from boxing. He took Filipino collie, which 0:09:23.240 --> 0:09:25.840 is a scream a stick fighting and knifefighting, and he 0:09:25.880 --> 0:09:28.640 applied that to empty hands so that you had trapping 0:09:28.640 --> 0:09:31.720 and a lot joint locks that he brought from jiu jitsu, 0:09:31.920 --> 0:09:34.040 and he studied with all the masters of these different 0:09:34.080 --> 0:09:36.640 things that he studied with Wally j who was when 0:09:36.640 --> 0:09:39.240 I first started taking jiu jitsu. Uh it was small 0:09:39.280 --> 0:09:41.880 circle jiu jitsu, which is what Wally j Is was 0:09:41.920 --> 0:09:45.920 famous for. And that small circle means up um using 0:09:45.920 --> 0:09:49.560 the smaller joint locks like finger joint locks, um um, 0:09:49.600 --> 0:09:52.320 you know, wrist locks being able to if you can, 0:09:52.520 --> 0:09:55.600 if I'm gonna lock out a finger, then I would. 0:09:55.679 --> 0:09:57.719 I'm trying to describe it so people can understand what 0:09:57.760 --> 0:09:59.640 the podcast. But if I haven't in your hand, if 0:10:00.040 --> 0:10:02.960 in my hand and I push, I push on the 0:10:03.000 --> 0:10:04.800 top and I pull under the bottom, and I create 0:10:04.840 --> 0:10:07.760 a small circle here, then I get right into the 0:10:07.840 --> 0:10:10.360 joint of it, and it causes pain, causes extreme pain, 0:10:10.520 --> 0:10:12.800 but it didn't break it. It doesn't hurt me. It 0:10:12.840 --> 0:10:15.040 just hurts me for a while. So I can control 0:10:15.120 --> 0:10:18.720 the person. Right, So me have your hand just so, 0:10:18.960 --> 0:10:20.560 and we're gonna take two figures right, so you just 0:10:20.600 --> 0:10:21.800 you can feel it, so you can feel. It just 0:10:21.960 --> 0:10:24.400 filled out my interest today. Okay, you see you feel that. 0:10:24.840 --> 0:10:27.000 You see the push and here's the pool. So I'm 0:10:27.040 --> 0:10:29.560 here and I yeah, I'll do what you can feel. 0:10:30.559 --> 0:10:33.120 You feel the pain, but now you're fine, You're okay, 0:10:33.679 --> 0:10:35.400 not hurting, but you could move my body around. I 0:10:35.440 --> 0:10:36.680 can make you do what I want you to do. 0:10:36.720 --> 0:10:39.240 How many people that you work with on a day 0:10:39.240 --> 0:10:41.720 to day basis even have any idea that this is 0:10:41.760 --> 0:10:44.400 what you do? None? Really, I don't really, I have 0:10:44.520 --> 0:10:46.520 never talked about it. This is the first time I've 0:10:46.559 --> 0:10:49.480 ever talked about it in any kind of form bigger 0:10:49.520 --> 0:10:52.480 than one or two people before we we we sat 0:10:52.520 --> 0:10:56.080 down today. I did the least amount of research I 0:10:56.120 --> 0:10:59.960 could because I wanted you to teach me as well 0:11:00.080 --> 0:11:02.840 you should that's the way, Well, it's it's. It's because 0:11:02.960 --> 0:11:05.640 I want to be just like my listeners, which are 0:11:05.840 --> 0:11:07.959 you know, turned me onto it. And the first thing 0:11:08.040 --> 0:11:09.640 I did is I and the only thing I did 0:11:09.679 --> 0:11:13.240 was pull it up on Wikipedia and jiu jitsu, my 0:11:13.320 --> 0:11:17.000 saying yeah, there's there's it's and it seems like that's 0:11:17.040 --> 0:11:20.440 a it's a family tree. Yes, the branches come off 0:11:20.440 --> 0:11:22.280 and the leaves come off, the branches. That's right. So 0:11:22.400 --> 0:11:29.000 jiu jitsu is originally about combat against someone who is 0:11:29.120 --> 0:11:33.440 in armor and may or may not have a weapon 0:11:34.320 --> 0:11:38.200 and the person who is performing jiu jitsu does not. 0:11:39.360 --> 0:11:43.760 You know, it's close hand combat for people who are armored, yes, 0:11:44.000 --> 0:11:47.160 from someone who is not. Yeah, basically, yeah, that's that 0:11:47.240 --> 0:11:52.360 is correct. It's uh true combat jujitsu. Now, my first 0:11:52.640 --> 0:11:54.959 black belt in jujicsu is in combat jujitsu. I'm a 0:11:55.000 --> 0:11:57.400 fourth degree black belt in combat jujitsu. I'm a fourth 0:11:57.400 --> 0:12:00.560 degree black belt and issuary karate, and I'm currently a 0:12:00.559 --> 0:12:05.120 purple belt in Brazilian jujitsu. Combat jujitsu is really is 0:12:05.280 --> 0:12:09.960 kind of a Japanese style jiujitsu, and it was based 0:12:10.000 --> 0:12:12.880 off of actually goes all the way to India. There 0:12:12.880 --> 0:12:16.200 are wrestling styles in India to thousand years ago that 0:12:16.320 --> 0:12:20.560 migrated into China and then migrated down into Japan, and 0:12:21.160 --> 0:12:25.600 the samurais developed jiu jitsu as you would know it 0:12:25.640 --> 0:12:28.679 as you read about it. They developed it because of 0:12:28.720 --> 0:12:32.520 the armor. So if you are striking somebody and you're 0:12:32.600 --> 0:12:35.160 hitting armor, you're hitting a face mask, You're gonna hurt 0:12:35.200 --> 0:12:37.840 yourself too. You can't strike against this armor. But The 0:12:37.880 --> 0:12:41.840 things that you can control are the joint the joints 0:12:41.840 --> 0:12:45.120 of the risk, the joints of the elbow, shoulder, the knees, 0:12:45.240 --> 0:12:48.720 the ankles, the hips. There's all kinds of different where 0:12:48.760 --> 0:12:52.520 the body is flexible. Um so if somebody has on 0:12:52.800 --> 0:12:56.200 a suit of armor and they're wielding a sword or 0:12:56.280 --> 0:12:58.680 a bow and arrow or whatever, they still have to 0:12:58.720 --> 0:13:00.840 have the mechanics to bend their arms and swing them 0:13:00.840 --> 0:13:03.000 and all that stuff. So the joints are free. So 0:13:03.800 --> 0:13:07.880 that's why they developed the system of joint manipulation. Two. 0:13:08.440 --> 0:13:10.800 That's that's when I say lock, I mean I'm locking 0:13:10.840 --> 0:13:12.720 your wrist out in a certain way that it causes 0:13:12.760 --> 0:13:15.760 you pain. And it it either it over extends the 0:13:15.800 --> 0:13:19.440 tendons or it's the card elage of stuff separates it 0:13:19.440 --> 0:13:21.880 in the joint. It terms that your elbow or your 0:13:21.880 --> 0:13:24.040 wrist away that it's not supposed to go and it 0:13:24.080 --> 0:13:26.600 causes the pain. Now you can break that if you 0:13:26.640 --> 0:13:29.000 move very fast. I can decide I want to go 0:13:29.360 --> 0:13:32.280 really fast, hit that really quick and break it, pop 0:13:32.280 --> 0:13:35.600 it because of the force, the momentum and the angles 0:13:35.800 --> 0:13:38.840 on the wrist. Or I can choose to hold that 0:13:39.640 --> 0:13:41.600 right at that point where it hurts really really bad, 0:13:41.720 --> 0:13:43.120 and you will stop do them. You know, I can 0:13:43.200 --> 0:13:45.320 kind of control what you do. I love this because 0:13:45.320 --> 0:13:47.240 you're one of the kindest men I know. And I 0:13:47.280 --> 0:13:51.760 just had no idea I had that. So what did 0:13:51.800 --> 0:13:54.880 it feel like to grow up knowing how to fight 0:13:55.240 --> 0:13:58.360 and really never having you have you had to fight 0:13:58.440 --> 0:14:01.439 outside the Oh yeah, outside? Yeah, I mean it never 0:14:01.559 --> 0:14:05.800 was competition. I mean, here's the thing, man, after fighting 0:14:05.880 --> 0:14:08.720 so many tournaments in my early thirties and stuff, when 0:14:08.720 --> 0:14:13.920 I was competing against trained people, and then you know, 0:14:14.040 --> 0:14:16.679 just you know, little altercations and ship that happens when 0:14:16.720 --> 0:14:19.680 you're you know, in your mid twenties and you're drunk 0:14:19.720 --> 0:14:22.520 in a bar and somebody doesn't something ugly to a 0:14:22.520 --> 0:14:25.960 friend of yours. Um. Those After you've done a few 0:14:25.960 --> 0:14:28.880 of those, you realize that you're you just feel like, man, 0:14:28.920 --> 0:14:32.760 you just feel like a freaking panther walking among gazelles. 0:14:34.240 --> 0:14:37.600 You're just allowing it to happen, just let it, just 0:14:37.680 --> 0:14:42.320 letting that behavior cool man. So But but but what 0:14:42.360 --> 0:14:46.080 it does, and it is it makes me I don't 0:14:46.200 --> 0:14:49.720 get freaked out and I don't help. It's helped me 0:14:49.720 --> 0:14:53.320 in business so much because I can stay calm. I'm not. 0:14:53.480 --> 0:14:55.800 I don't. It doesn't I don't get too worked up 0:14:55.800 --> 0:14:58.880 over anything, you know, in in pressure situations, because you're 0:14:58.880 --> 0:15:03.200 always in pressure situation issues. Um, and it's beautiful in 0:15:04.360 --> 0:15:07.920 and when you're training, Like if I'm stressed about something 0:15:08.400 --> 0:15:11.760 and I go to work out and I'm rolling with 0:15:11.800 --> 0:15:14.360 a guy that is probably gonna put me to sleep, 0:15:14.440 --> 0:15:16.760 or is like, really, you know, these guys are so 0:15:16.840 --> 0:15:18.560 much better than me these days, and they're young, they're 0:15:18.560 --> 0:15:21.600 twenty years younger. And if I'm not focused on what's 0:15:21.640 --> 0:15:24.240 happening in the moment, then I don't. It's not gonna 0:15:24.480 --> 0:15:26.880 nothing's gonna last very long, and they're gonna kill me, right, 0:15:26.920 --> 0:15:28.800 So I have to. I have to pay attention. Or 0:15:28.840 --> 0:15:30.400 what it does is it forces me to let go 0:15:30.440 --> 0:15:33.840 of everything else has bothered me. So I spend an 0:15:33.840 --> 0:15:37.640 hour hour and a half training hard, working on technique, 0:15:37.800 --> 0:15:41.200 sparring and in. The beautiful thing about Brazilian jiu jitsu. 0:15:41.360 --> 0:15:43.480 One of the reasons that it makes you so effective 0:15:43.520 --> 0:15:45.920 is that you can train at almost full speed all 0:15:45.960 --> 0:15:49.920 the time and not get hurt because it's wrestling, it's 0:15:49.960 --> 0:15:54.160 it's grappling, it's your your your your body positioning, You're 0:15:54.360 --> 0:15:56.480 you're trying to work three and four moves ahead to 0:15:56.520 --> 0:15:58.360 get this guy to give you something you know you 0:15:58.400 --> 0:16:00.280 want three or four music. It's like chess, and it's 0:16:00.320 --> 0:16:03.360 like it's like human chess, you know. So it's so 0:16:04.160 --> 0:16:07.800 intellectual and it's so physical at the same time. I've 0:16:07.800 --> 0:16:11.800 never found anything that is it's equal in terms of 0:16:11.800 --> 0:16:15.760 being intellectual and physical at the same time with such intensity. 0:16:15.840 --> 0:16:18.560 So when you're done and you're just wasted and you're 0:16:18.600 --> 0:16:20.680 just you're sitting there and your ass feels about like 0:16:20.760 --> 0:16:23.120 thirty pounds that che bubble gum and you're just sitting 0:16:23.120 --> 0:16:26.080 there and you're like, oh my god, uh and you're 0:16:26.120 --> 0:16:29.080 kind of shaking because you've worked so hard. You're just 0:16:29.200 --> 0:16:33.080 completely relaxed. And I just I really believe that people need. 0:16:33.520 --> 0:16:35.560 They need things that are hard in their life. There 0:16:35.640 --> 0:16:38.440 need things that don't that they have to struggle to 0:16:38.480 --> 0:16:44.240 achieve in order to really to really know what that 0:16:44.800 --> 0:16:47.800 is and what how it can relate to other parts. 0:16:47.880 --> 0:16:49.400 It will make them better in every part of their life. 0:16:49.760 --> 0:16:52.160 I mean, man, you know, I've been struggling to learn 0:16:52.200 --> 0:16:55.360 Brazilian jiu jitsu on top of I mean I've studied 0:16:55.440 --> 0:16:57.880 marshal arts for years, but Brazilian jiu jitsu is a 0:16:58.000 --> 0:17:00.880 freaking mystery to me still. It's just baffling to me. 0:17:00.920 --> 0:17:03.160 And I've been doing it now for eight almost nine years, 0:17:03.680 --> 0:17:06.520 and and at this age, you know, and and it's 0:17:06.560 --> 0:17:08.760 one of those things that my body has to learn 0:17:08.800 --> 0:17:11.280 it I had. My sensitivity has to be developed to 0:17:11.440 --> 0:17:14.480 feel this move here and to think three moves ahead, 0:17:14.480 --> 0:17:16.080 and to to be able to do that, and it 0:17:16.280 --> 0:17:18.840 that requires time on the mat, and I, you know, 0:17:18.880 --> 0:17:20.400 if I don't get the time on the mat, then 0:17:20.480 --> 0:17:22.440 I fall back and I have to start over it 0:17:22.520 --> 0:17:26.480 kind of have to rebuild again. But it's it's that 0:17:26.720 --> 0:17:30.360 struggle of learning it that is so fulfilling because then 0:17:30.400 --> 0:17:33.800 when you start you start seeing results. It's like, man, 0:17:33.880 --> 0:17:38.600 you know I did that, Because in especially in Brazilian jujitsu, 0:17:39.400 --> 0:17:42.320 it either works or it doesn't, and nobody gives you anything. 0:17:43.119 --> 0:17:46.320 You are either respected on the map because you work 0:17:46.359 --> 0:17:48.160 hard and you try hard. You don't need to win, 0:17:48.720 --> 0:17:50.119 but you need to work hard and you need to 0:17:50.160 --> 0:17:54.080 try hard. And if you um, if you are are 0:17:54.080 --> 0:17:57.560 putting in the time and you're working hard, everybody there 0:17:57.680 --> 0:18:01.359 will support you. And the have your back at every 0:18:01.400 --> 0:18:04.960 turn no matter what, because they know you're trying. You know, 0:18:05.080 --> 0:18:07.200 if you don't try, you don't stick around them. It's 0:18:07.200 --> 0:18:12.000 a really pure, true thing that you cannot um can't 0:18:12.040 --> 0:18:14.400 argue your way. You can't argue your way. You can't 0:18:14.400 --> 0:18:15.720 say I would have done this or I would have 0:18:15.760 --> 0:18:17.560 done that. It's all bullshit and everybody knows it too. 0:18:18.320 --> 0:18:21.000 It's either you either can do it or you can't. 0:18:21.119 --> 0:18:23.960 And if you can't do it, then you need to 0:18:24.000 --> 0:18:26.920 be working towards the ability to do it the right 0:18:26.960 --> 0:18:29.400 way or to to find the truth in what you're doing. 0:18:29.760 --> 0:18:31.959 And I think that that has so much to do 0:18:32.040 --> 0:18:35.879 with life that that's what I love about. It's just 0:18:35.920 --> 0:18:37.920 a beautiful thing to have. I mean, there's still a 0:18:37.920 --> 0:18:39.399 few things in this world that we can count on 0:18:39.760 --> 0:18:44.600 that are absolutely true, Like I know, black and white truth. 0:18:45.000 --> 0:18:56.399 When that stuff works, and when it does Chapter two. 0:18:56.800 --> 0:18:59.439 In every episode of Geeking Out, I see if I 0:18:59.440 --> 0:19:02.640 can trade one thing I've discovered with one thing that 0:19:02.680 --> 0:19:06.479 my guest has discovered, a friendly exchange. I call it 0:19:06.520 --> 0:19:09.879 trade you. I'm gonna trade you one thing that I've discovered. 0:19:10.000 --> 0:19:12.640 It just so happens. I discovered it this past week. Um, 0:19:12.680 --> 0:19:17.560 I came across pillows that are cold. Oh yeah, day 0:19:18.160 --> 0:19:21.440 pillows have you I have been dreaming. Let me tell 0:19:21.480 --> 0:19:24.800 you something, dude. I for like three years ago I 0:19:24.840 --> 0:19:28.320 went to a showcase during CRS that big machine put 0:19:28.359 --> 0:19:32.399 on and the parting gift was this giant stakehold like 0:19:32.480 --> 0:19:35.160 pillow but memory phone, but it's cold on one side pillow. 0:19:35.520 --> 0:19:38.240 To this day, I thought, my wife, that's my pillow. 0:19:38.320 --> 0:19:41.280 I've got something for you. They have. The technology has 0:19:41.320 --> 0:19:44.199 gone one step further. So it's no longer the the 0:19:44.280 --> 0:19:49.160 gel pillow or the stay phoned the NASA pillow. It's 0:19:49.200 --> 0:19:51.639 now here's this one here, I'm trady picture of it. 0:19:51.640 --> 0:19:54.880 It's called a hydrolux air and it is a straight 0:19:54.960 --> 0:20:01.440 up feather pillow, right, and it stays hold And I 0:20:01.520 --> 0:20:03.960 don't know how it does it, but it has to 0:20:03.960 --> 0:20:08.040 do with pressure, right. It really works like you put 0:20:08.119 --> 0:20:09.919 your head on it, and I do you have to 0:20:09.960 --> 0:20:12.639 do anything to prep it first? Nothing? Just to fill up? No, 0:20:12.800 --> 0:20:14.760 I'm like in my mind, you you know, like remember 0:20:14.760 --> 0:20:16.240 how we used to have to put the rice things 0:20:16.240 --> 0:20:19.920 in the microwaves or maybe the cold packs when you 0:20:20.000 --> 0:20:23.720 hurt yourself while you're jiu jitsuing? Right? Is that? Because 0:20:23.720 --> 0:20:26.840 it's a verb and um, you would crack it and 0:20:26.880 --> 0:20:29.440 put it on your shoulder. This stuff you literally lay 0:20:29.480 --> 0:20:32.120 on it and it gets cold. It is so important 0:20:32.160 --> 0:20:35.200 to me now that I'm thinking of replacing more than 0:20:35.280 --> 0:20:36.919 just one. You let us send me a link to 0:20:36.960 --> 0:20:39.400 that so I can I can get one. It's amazing. 0:20:39.480 --> 0:20:41.760 Hydro lux air is what it is. The one I tried. 0:20:42.720 --> 0:20:45.600 This sounds silly, there's no such thing. Well it makes 0:20:45.640 --> 0:20:48.840 I don't know. Do you ever spend any time on Pinterest? 0:20:49.800 --> 0:20:53.919 You know what? Um? I when Pinterest first started, I tried, 0:20:54.280 --> 0:20:56.880 and I do. I love it. I swear to god, 0:20:56.920 --> 0:20:59.399 I love Pinterest. There's so much cool guy stuff on there. 0:20:59.480 --> 0:21:02.399 There's like rate motorcycles and just and I will go 0:21:02.480 --> 0:21:05.919 down the rabbit hole if I'm really just kind of 0:21:05.920 --> 0:21:07.600 want to veg out and I just want to kind 0:21:07.600 --> 0:21:10.080 of just I just want to kind of do dumb stuff. 0:21:10.240 --> 0:21:12.600 You know, what are your searches? Like? I mean, I 0:21:12.640 --> 0:21:14.880 would tell you what, but here's the thing. It's weird 0:21:15.119 --> 0:21:18.520 because it's an intuitive website and and I know Pinterest 0:21:18.600 --> 0:21:20.200 is a thing that people know about it. I don't 0:21:20.200 --> 0:21:23.120 know but for me, I've only in the last month 0:21:23.240 --> 0:21:25.240 or two become just enamored with it. But it's a 0:21:26.640 --> 0:21:30.280 you it after you've searched so many different things, it 0:21:30.359 --> 0:21:32.760 picks stuff for you and it just feeds you the 0:21:32.840 --> 0:21:35.600 things that you it thinks that you will like, and 0:21:35.600 --> 0:21:39.359 and it's usually so right. It is so right with me. 0:21:39.440 --> 0:21:41.359 I'm like, and I'm looking at it and I'm like, 0:21:41.359 --> 0:21:45.600 oh my god, if somebody saw my pinter stage, what 0:21:45.720 --> 0:21:47.920 kind of person would they think I am? Because there's 0:21:47.960 --> 0:21:50.280 just all kinds. There's like survival gear on there, there's 0:21:50.359 --> 0:21:54.560