1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,199 Speaker 1: Ron and Nanian part of the problem in diagnosing a vehicle. 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: For me, it gets to be emotional if we are 3 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: to truly discover the meaning of these events. Absolutely issue 4 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:17,599 Speaker 1: the car doctor if you let your emotions get involved. 5 00:00:17,840 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 1: This car is a piece of junk. This car is 6 00:00:19,560 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 1: a piece of junk. This car is a piece of junk. 7 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: And it's not like that that has to go to 8 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 1: the back of your mind. It has to be what's 9 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: the source of the problem. What steps am I going 10 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:30,520 Speaker 1: to take to resolve? Are you incapable of restraining yourself? 11 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: Would you take tried in being an insufferable Welcome to 12 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 1: the radio home of Ron and Nanian, the Car Doctor, 13 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:42,479 Speaker 1: since this is where car owners the world overturned to 14 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. If your mechanics 15 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:49,720 Speaker 1: giving you a busy signal, pick up the phone and 16 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: call in the garage doors are open, but I am 17 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: here to take your call at eight five and now 18 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:04,600 Speaker 1: he is running. Hey, hey, hey, how the automobile continues 19 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:07,040 Speaker 1: to evolve and change? Hello, and welcome on RONANINNI in 20 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 1: the Car Doctor here at zero nine nine zero zero 21 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 1: to take your calls and answer your questions. There's more 22 00:01:13,240 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 1: information about this radio show is always at Car Doctor 23 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:18,560 Speaker 1: Show dot com, as well as links on the Car 24 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:22,440 Speaker 1: Doctor Show page to tune in iHeart iTunes dot com, 25 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:24,960 Speaker 1: as well as some other information as far as what's 26 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 1: going on with the Car Doctor and what we're always 27 00:01:27,040 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 1: talking about. Um, we are I should announce. I guess 28 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 1: we're gonna be. It's a little early, but we can 29 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:33,280 Speaker 1: talk about it. Were about two months out, but we 30 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 1: are gonna be live on remote in New Jersey at 31 00:01:36,880 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: the meadow Lands X are not the Medal ZAC by 32 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 1: the Northeast Trade Show, which I think is in the 33 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: Secaucus Convention Center ce Caucus, New Jersey, UM the weekend 34 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: of March nineteenth, as we always go down there for 35 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:49,000 Speaker 1: the A S P n J show and we'll be 36 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:52,919 Speaker 1: live again down there, UM celebrating and talking about cars 37 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: as they are and we look forward to that. So 38 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: we should put that out there. But I think the 39 00:01:57,320 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: way I would kick go up this hour, the Car 40 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 1: Doctors talked to you a little bit about how they've 41 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:05,560 Speaker 1: evolved and how they've changed. And the best example I 42 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 1: can give of it, I posted it out on the 43 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 1: Facebook page is a picture of a brake pedal position sensor. Now, 44 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 1: in the old days, you and I knew it as 45 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,679 Speaker 1: a brake switch. You step on the brake pedal, the 46 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 1: switch would close, allow current to flow back to the 47 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: brake lights, or in some cases and cars got newer, 48 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:32,119 Speaker 1: to flow to a relay and turn the brake lights on. Well, 49 00:02:32,160 --> 00:02:34,680 Speaker 1: there is no brake pedal position sensor on a lot 50 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 1: of cars. I'm sorry, there's no brake switch on a 51 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 1: lot of cars today. We had a Cadillac in the 52 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 1: shop this week where the brake lights were staying on 53 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:44,079 Speaker 1: all the time, and right away you think to yourself, Okay, 54 00:02:44,120 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: it's got a bad break light switch. You go through 55 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 1: the course of diagnosis. There is no switch in this car. 56 00:02:49,720 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 1: It's got a brake pedal position sensor, three wire sensor, 57 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:59,359 Speaker 1: a read style sensor with magnets in it that allows 58 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: the computer uter when you look at it on a 59 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: scan tool, it's really kind of interesting. It allows the 60 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 1: computer to know pedal position as you approach the moment 61 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 1: of where the lights would come on. What am I saying? 62 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: For example, at rest, the brake pedal position sensor reported 63 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 1: a position of one hundred and eighty five as I 64 00:03:23,760 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 1: stepped on the pedal seven, eight, nine and so on, 65 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: and somewhere around the lights came on. And what they're 66 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 1: doing is they're allowing the computer to anticipate how fast 67 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: you're stepping on the brake and how it might want 68 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: to apply not just the brake lights, but traction control 69 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 1: devices based on inputs from that your sensor, and a 70 00:03:56,600 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 1: couple of other things that are other other factors that 71 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: are inside the automobile. And it just makes you look 72 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: at it and say, there's nothing simple anymore. And you 73 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: have to look at also how it gets replaced to 74 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 1: change a brake pedal position sensor BBPS, BPPS say that 75 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:20,040 Speaker 1: seven times fast, it's and it's really kind of I 76 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: gotta tell you, you know, stupid as a stupid does. 77 00:04:22,960 --> 00:04:26,159 Speaker 1: They mount the brake pedal position sensor on the accelerator 78 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:30,200 Speaker 1: pedal assembly, not the gas pedal accelerator pedal, because it's 79 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 1: a sensor that's drive by wire car that opens and 80 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: closes the throttle plates electronically be inputs in signals and 81 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: how the computer controls throttle opening. They mount the eight 82 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: millimeter bolt for the BPPS the brake pedal sensor on 83 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 1: the inside bracket of the accelerator sensor, so you have 84 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: to take off the accelerator pedal sensor to get to 85 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:59,160 Speaker 1: the BPP sensor and under the dash. That would have 86 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:02,599 Speaker 1: been a whole lot easier if the General Motors engineer 87 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:07,120 Speaker 1: had put the recessed self contained nut on the accelerator 88 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:10,159 Speaker 1: pedal sensor and bolted the BPP sensor and from the 89 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 1: other side. They they increased the repair time twenty minutes 90 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:23,200 Speaker 1: to a half hour. And the fact is that we're 91 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:26,640 Speaker 1: seeing a lot of VPP sensors fail. From from what 92 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 1: I'm reading and from what I'm experiencing and from what 93 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:32,159 Speaker 1: I'm talking to other shops, it just makes you scratch 94 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 1: your head and you say, you know, it's it's just 95 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: kind of strange. But anyway, that's out on that's out 96 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 1: on our Facebook page. If you get out to run 97 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 1: on any of the Facebook round needing of the Car 98 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:44,119 Speaker 1: Doctor out on Facebook, you'll see that. And I should 99 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: point out we are going to start to put these 100 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: things on YouTube and bring YouTube in as a link 101 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 1: to Facebook. We're gonna make that policy so that you 102 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 1: can get out to YouTube if you don't have Facebook. 103 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: And I can understand why you don't want to have Facebook, 104 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 1: because it's a lot of time that, um, you know, 105 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 1: how many places can you be in? How many things 106 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:04,840 Speaker 1: can you do? But any event, let's uh, let's kick 107 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 1: open the phones early. What do you say we get 108 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:10,160 Speaker 1: to the phones before the break? Harry? Yeah, I see 109 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 1: you have approached the microphone looking you selt as ever 110 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 1: always always so all America trembles and anticipates. So you'll 111 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:23,360 Speaker 1: be in those bikini briefs by June. Yeah. So actually 112 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 1: I'm wearing him now. But that's probably too much information. Yeah, Tony, Tony, 113 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 1: Tony doesn't like that sitting next to you, somebody there 114 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:33,839 Speaker 1: you go. So what do you what do you have 115 00:06:33,920 --> 00:06:39,400 Speaker 1: for us today? Harry? Paul's in Karen, Maine. Paul has 116 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:42,719 Speaker 1: a question for the car Doctor. He says, every car 117 00:06:42,800 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: he's ever owned, he's taking the thermstat out and that 118 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:50,359 Speaker 1: it runs cooler, and then it defies physics why you 119 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 1: would even tell you to take a therm, you know, 120 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 1: to keep it in. So, okay, that's a good question, right, 121 00:06:57,279 --> 00:06:59,359 Speaker 1: that's a good question. Let's see if we got an answer. Paul, 122 00:06:59,360 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 1: you're on with the car doctor zero, sir, how can 123 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:07,599 Speaker 1: I help? I've been having a discussion of the people 124 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: that I have coffee with in the morning, and I 125 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 1: mentioned one morning that I had had a problem years 126 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: and years ago with a carra uh summerstats stuck and 127 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 1: I low rated hose. And when I replaced the hose, 128 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:24,560 Speaker 1: I took the fumberstat out and tossed it, of course, 129 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:28,000 Speaker 1: and then replace it because I was in California where 130 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: it wasn't necessary and the engine ran cooler after And 131 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:34,840 Speaker 1: they said, oh no, no, you take somerstat out. That 132 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:38,440 Speaker 1: engine is gonna overheat. And I don't know what physics, 133 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: Prince of all that is based on. Do you ever 134 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 1: take the car out on a real cold morning, Paul, 135 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: and turn the heat on, and once the car is 136 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 1: warmed up, you put the heat on full blast. And 137 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: did you ever notice that when you have the heat 138 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: on full blast and then you turn it down two 139 00:07:57,960 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: clicks to middle or low, it's always hotter on low speed. Right? 140 00:08:03,640 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 1: Have you ever noticed that your your hand will actually 141 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 1: burn on a on a good heat or in a car, 142 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 1: your hand will actually become very uncomfortable to hold there 143 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 1: when that heat or is at lower speed than it 144 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 1: is at high speed. Do you ever wonder about that? 145 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:21,880 Speaker 1: Why it's like that. No, why do you think it's 146 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 1: like that? Um, I don't know. The water is circulating 147 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 1: slower and and the engine is heating it totter and well, 148 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 1: slower actually has something to do with it. You're giving 149 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:40,439 Speaker 1: the air that's around. It has nothing to do with 150 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 1: coolant in the sense of the engine building more or 151 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 1: less temperature. But it has to do with your giving 152 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: the air more time around the heater core to absorb 153 00:08:51,720 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 1: the heat and be heated. So the speed at which 154 00:08:56,000 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: it's traveling is affecting how the heat is transferred into 155 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:06,199 Speaker 1: the air itself, so it lower speeds. The air is 156 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: moving slower, so it absorbs more heat. Therefore it dissipates 157 00:09:10,440 --> 00:09:14,040 Speaker 1: more heat and you feel it in the end result 158 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 1: on your hand. That being said thermostat, depending upon where 159 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:22,679 Speaker 1: you are. In certain parts of the country, taking the 160 00:09:22,760 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: thermostat out will actually cause an engine to overheat because 161 00:09:28,000 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 1: you do not regulate the coolant and slow it down 162 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 1: enough for it to be in the radiator long enough 163 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:37,439 Speaker 1: for it to dissipate the heat for it to be 164 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 1: exchanged out into the cooler. Air passes through so quickly 165 00:09:42,000 --> 00:09:44,719 Speaker 1: that it will actually cause the cooling temperature to go 166 00:09:45,000 --> 00:09:48,360 Speaker 1: up or not be cooled as efficiently as it can be, 167 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 1: and the engine will overheat as a result in your case. 168 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:53,880 Speaker 1: In your case, I know you're gonna say you took 169 00:09:53,880 --> 00:09:56,520 Speaker 1: it out and it ran cooler, but it couldn't have 170 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: been in hot temperature. That would defy your right. That 171 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:03,640 Speaker 1: does the the law of physics. I would think in 172 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: certain climates, depending upon where you are, if it got 173 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 1: into the cooler season, if you were in l A, 174 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: and you know in l A, if it hits forty degrees, 175 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 1: they think it's a crisis. Uh, you know you wouldn't. 176 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 1: You may get away with it, but I would also 177 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:19,880 Speaker 1: think you'd have heat issues. And on a newer car, 178 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 1: on a computerized car, you would be setting fault codes 179 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:25,839 Speaker 1: because engine temperature has to come up to a specific 180 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: because they're looking at engine temperature to help maintain emissions 181 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 1: and keep that vehicle running within compliance for fuel economy 182 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 1: and performance and things like that. Now in the old 183 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 1: now in the open, well here in the old days, 184 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 1: what we used to do with the hot rod, and 185 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:50,719 Speaker 1: you'll still see it on cars today, mechanical cars, non 186 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 1: computerized cars. You'll put a thermostat in small block Chevy 187 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 1: for example, and you'll cut the center portion of the 188 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:02,040 Speaker 1: thermostat out, you'll cut the button, as we like to say, 189 00:11:02,120 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 1: and we'll just put ore, you'll go out. And Edelbrock 190 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:06,720 Speaker 1: made them at one time, and a bunch of people 191 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 1: made them. They were called restrictor plates, and they were 192 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 1: just metal plates that didn't have a thermostat in it, 193 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:14,160 Speaker 1: but just the orifice would vary in size and it 194 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: would restrict or open up flow through the cooling system, 195 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 1: so you could play with optimal temperature where you wanted 196 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:28,280 Speaker 1: it to be. But you know, in reality, a cooling 197 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 1: system needs a certain restriction in order to allow the 198 00:11:31,720 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 1: cooling to exchange properly out of the radiator and dissipate 199 00:11:35,320 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 1: the heat like it's supposed to. That's what I'm especially 200 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:40,679 Speaker 1: have been saying, and I've been arguing with them. And 201 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:44,959 Speaker 1: my two experiences have been that I had an engine, 202 00:11:45,160 --> 00:11:48,880 Speaker 1: I had a job in Arizona. I traveled, and I 203 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:53,600 Speaker 1: would travel at highways eatings, my temperature would get up 204 00:11:53,679 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 1: close to the red line. I take the thumberstat out 205 00:11:56,320 --> 00:11:59,679 Speaker 1: and I can experience that problem anymore. Right now. It 206 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 1: may have been now, it may have been that there 207 00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:05,199 Speaker 1: was an issue with the cooling system somewhere along the 208 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:07,839 Speaker 1: way in that car. Maybe there was a deficiency in 209 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 1: the radiator, Maybe there was a problem in water pumping peller, 210 00:12:11,240 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 1: Maybe there was a problem somewhere else fan wise, and 211 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:18,679 Speaker 1: the thermostats somehow modified that temperature curve to allow it 212 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:22,360 Speaker 1: to operate properly like that. But as designed, cars need 213 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:25,280 Speaker 1: thermostats because they have to be a restriction to help 214 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 1: regulate temperature flow to help keep the engine operating in 215 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 1: peak performance condition. Right where the manufacturers and the engineers 216 00:12:34,600 --> 00:12:38,640 Speaker 1: designed it, you can probably find information regarding thermostat operation 217 00:12:39,040 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 1: as well as other cooling system components like the radiator 218 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 1: caps itself. Get out the stamp dot com um great website. 219 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:46,680 Speaker 1: They've got a bunch of educational material there. You can 220 00:12:46,720 --> 00:12:49,160 Speaker 1: get out the stand stamp dot com and see what 221 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 1: they've got going on. Do some reading that way. I 222 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:53,199 Speaker 1: appreciate the call, Paul, and if you have any others, 223 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 1: you know where to find me. Zero zero the car 224 00:12:56,760 --> 00:13:24,640 Speaker 1: doctors back right after this, welcome back. Why don't you 225 00:13:24,679 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 1: need a car doctor? Hey five five zero nine zero 226 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 1: seven number, give us a call. Talked to us about 227 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:32,839 Speaker 1: your car problem. Calling right now is Ronnie with some 228 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:35,160 Speaker 1: questions about cooling test trips. Ron you're on with the 229 00:13:35,200 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 1: car doctor. How can I help? All? Right, how are 230 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:40,839 Speaker 1: you doing today? Good? What's going on? Hey? I'm just 231 00:13:41,160 --> 00:13:43,679 Speaker 1: uh an old guy that used to munk around the 232 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:46,079 Speaker 1: old cars. And I was when you were talking, not 233 00:13:46,400 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 1: at too long ago about cooling and make sure you're 234 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:52,600 Speaker 1: checking for pH and other stuff in there that could 235 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 1: be causing crosion. Uh. I never really took a look 236 00:13:56,400 --> 00:13:59,480 Speaker 1: at that part my being in Michigan. You're pretty much 237 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,319 Speaker 1: checked out and make it the freeze points there and 238 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,719 Speaker 1: uh and all the above. So when I got to 239 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:08,679 Speaker 1: take a look at what we had out there, I 240 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:12,559 Speaker 1: got a two two thousand and five Silverado Chivy and 241 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 1: a two thousand and six Pontiac Torrent and I one 242 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: and bought some strips, and uh, I took some testing 243 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:22,480 Speaker 1: on it, and a lot of the stuff. We're quite 244 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: low on it as far as like say, the pH 245 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 1: was was say seventy, and then the freezing was good 246 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 1: at sixty nine or sixty and then they call a 247 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 1: nitrite something like that, and that was at zero. So uh, 248 00:14:42,440 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: my question is uh, and I was looking at I 249 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 1: used to do myself my own flush and then but 250 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 1: I took a look at that. I'm going, I don't 251 00:14:51,680 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 1: know if I already want to tackle this. The best 252 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 1: to go to a shop and have it done. My 253 00:14:56,440 --> 00:15:00,080 Speaker 1: question is will the will the person that flushed is 254 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 1: this out and re put that stuff in and put 255 00:15:02,200 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 1: that type of additive in it that's they're doing or 256 00:15:06,160 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 1: is that something that I need to monitor and and 257 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 1: put my own stuff in? Which which cheditive is? Is 258 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 1: that Ronnie? I got Um? I wish I had wrote 259 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 1: it down and I didn't. It was by uh, are 260 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 1: you are you referring to? You know, the the chemicals 261 00:15:27,080 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 1: that you're testing for in the cooling system. Okay, the 262 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 1: chemicals that you're testing for in the cooling system. What 263 00:15:34,720 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: you're seeing is you're seeing the chemical breakdown of the 264 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 1: coolant itself. That's not additives, all right. In other words, 265 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:45,160 Speaker 1: you're you're testing and depending upon how old you are, 266 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 1: and I remember this, and it sounds like we're both 267 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 1: in the same age group, like give or take um. 268 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 1: You know, high school science class when we tested is 269 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 1: something was a base or an acid chemical and and 270 00:15:57,320 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 1: that's basically what you're doing. You're testing the cool one 271 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 1: to see is it breaking down into apple cider. Is 272 00:16:03,880 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 1: it turning breaking down into vinegar where it's gonna be 273 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 1: corrosive and the effects on the inside of the engine 274 00:16:10,040 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 1: block and the radiator gonna cause those components to break down, 275 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: or is it still a neutral state, so to speak, 276 00:16:17,440 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 1: where it's not corrosive. Now, you said a couple of 277 00:16:21,320 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 1: interesting things about changing the coolant. The most effective way 278 00:16:26,560 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 1: to change coolant in terms of protecting the componentry, the block, 279 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 1: the radiator, the water pump, and so on, is with 280 00:16:34,880 --> 00:16:40,400 Speaker 1: an exchanger. To use a coolant exchange machine draining the radiator, heck, 281 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:43,480 Speaker 1: draining the radiator and pulling core plugs out of the 282 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:46,000 Speaker 1: engine block, which on a lot of cars today is 283 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 1: really impractical for for location, it's just insanity where everything 284 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 1: is buried still doesn't get any residue or contaminant or 285 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 1: particulate that is laying in the bottom of the block 286 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 1: and those cool went galleys. So an exchanger is swirling 287 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:06,520 Speaker 1: it around. It's it's, it's, it's it's the liquid is 288 00:17:06,600 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 1: moving and depending upon how often you do it and 289 00:17:10,920 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 1: what type of machine, it's it's swirling things up and 290 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 1: carrying the contaminant out and replacing it with fresh coolant. 291 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:22,359 Speaker 1: So the idea is, and this is the argument about, 292 00:17:22,720 --> 00:17:26,120 Speaker 1: you know, deck school for deck school, um Ford Gold 293 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:29,159 Speaker 1: for Ford Gold, Chrysler for Chrysler, using correct cooling and 294 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:34,440 Speaker 1: correct vehicles in in that it has the right chemical 295 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 1: makeup and co you know, to balance with the components 296 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 1: that are in the vehicle and the cooling system. There's 297 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:44,239 Speaker 1: exceptions to that. I spoke last hour about an oh 298 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 1: five you continentale with a hundred sixty thousand miles on 299 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:50,520 Speaker 1: it that I did a radiator in somewhere along the way. 300 00:17:50,680 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 1: April had coolant replaced, and she had had green coolant 301 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 1: put it in place of the deck school, which is 302 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 1: not an uncommon practice, And we did it again for 303 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 1: and we did day after discussion simply because at this 304 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:06,399 Speaker 1: age of the vehicle's life and her pocketbook, it was 305 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:09,879 Speaker 1: more practical to put green coolant in there. Is she 306 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 1: going to get as good at cooling system protection as 307 00:18:12,920 --> 00:18:16,320 Speaker 1: the decks cool The GM engineers would probably give you 308 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 1: an argument, But from a street view, from this street mechanic, 309 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:24,240 Speaker 1: I think she's fine. But in terms of any additives 310 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:27,840 Speaker 1: to add to it, such as you're describing now, you're 311 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:31,880 Speaker 1: it's it's not that complicated. If if you're coolant tests 312 00:18:32,280 --> 00:18:35,840 Speaker 1: high in acidity, and I'll simplify it like this, If 313 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 1: you're cooling tests high in acidity, take it to a shop, 314 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:43,320 Speaker 1: have the coolant exchange, has some sort of cooling service 315 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:47,040 Speaker 1: done like that, proper coolant back in, and the key 316 00:18:47,160 --> 00:18:51,719 Speaker 1: most important thing, change the coolant bottle. If it's got 317 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 1: any sort of dirt and scale on it. Always consider 318 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 1: the coolant bottle as a source where all those little 319 00:18:57,240 --> 00:18:59,880 Speaker 1: cockroaches lived. I'm mominating in the car, doctor, we're back 320 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:11,680 Speaker 1: right after this. What this car is automatic? It's systematic, 321 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:28,359 Speaker 1: it's hi dramatic. What's breest lightning? Welcome back, Ny in 322 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 1: the car doctor? Eight five zero nine zero the phone number. 323 00:19:31,720 --> 00:19:33,760 Speaker 1: Give us a call, leave a message. If we're not here, 324 00:19:33,800 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 1: that's seven service fast Terry. We'll call you back and 325 00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 1: line you up for the next time. We're up and 326 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:43,040 Speaker 1: available on radio. Let's get over and talk to Glenn, Philadelphia, Pa. 327 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 1: Two thousand six out some questions and opinions. Oh good, 328 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:49,199 Speaker 1: I like these kinds of questions, Glenn, Actually like all 329 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:51,480 Speaker 1: the kinds of questions, but these are these can be fun. 330 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:54,920 Speaker 1: What's going on? Hey, Ron, thanks for taking my call. 331 00:19:55,040 --> 00:20:00,439 Speaker 1: You're welcome, sir. Yeah. Two questions. First one as um, 332 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 1: a friend of mine was selling this outy it said, 333 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:07,200 Speaker 1: the thousand and six OUTI Quatro with a Turbo twenty 334 00:20:07,240 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 1: thousand original miles. One over very well maintained. Um, the 335 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 1: questions I have. I'm I'm the home health workers, so 336 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,160 Speaker 1: I do a lot of stop and go city driving, 337 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 1: and um, I actually haven't driven the car yet. I 338 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:22,120 Speaker 1: just want to get your opinion because I know it's 339 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 1: a high end car and repairs aren't going to be cheap, 340 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:28,159 Speaker 1: but you own it readily admits. But he's selling it 341 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 1: for sixty bucks, which to me is a really good deal. Yeah, 342 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:34,040 Speaker 1: that is that is probably a really good deal. That way, 343 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:37,280 Speaker 1: you can spend another to bring it up to spec 344 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:42,359 Speaker 1: and you know it's it's so you know, be be 345 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:46,000 Speaker 1: be careful of you know, be careful of um the 346 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:50,239 Speaker 1: initial price. Um. Uh so, gatty, I'm sorry, I meant 347 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:54,320 Speaker 1: to interrupt. You finish your question, Glenn. Um that that's 348 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 1: pretty much it for this part. You know, what what 349 00:20:56,119 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 1: do you think about the reliability? I asked him specifically 350 00:20:59,119 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 1: of the turbo's ever been any problems? And he said, no, right, 351 00:21:05,680 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 1: and it shouldn't be a twenty thous miles. At twenty 352 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 1: thou miles theoretically the cars had what six oil changes 353 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:14,880 Speaker 1: you know over the past ten years, which is which 354 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 1: is scary unto itself. But you know, let's let's look 355 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:21,439 Speaker 1: at the options here. You're buying an eleven year old car. 356 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 1: Forget the mileage. You're buying an eleven year old car 357 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:29,960 Speaker 1: with low mileage that based on time. You know, you've 358 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:32,160 Speaker 1: got to start to think about some of the rubber components. 359 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:35,879 Speaker 1: I believe this is a timing belt equipped vehicle. Uh 360 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 1: you know, the rest of the rubber under the hood, 361 00:21:38,720 --> 00:21:42,439 Speaker 1: and you're gonna turn this into something as a as 362 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 1: an everyday driver, stop and go. I you know, if 363 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 1: if this is and I'll be blunt and please don't 364 00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:52,960 Speaker 1: take offense, please please, if this is that midlife crisis 365 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:54,720 Speaker 1: car that you want to kind of feel that German 366 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,920 Speaker 1: car experience, I'd buy something as an everyday vehicle and 367 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 1: goal lees of BMW for the weekend for two years 368 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 1: and uh experience it that way, because you know, the 369 00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 1: initial cheap price of this car is going to lead 370 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:10,920 Speaker 1: you astray. I think at some point, um you know, 371 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 1: low mileage doesn't impress me. You know, I would be more. 372 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:16,600 Speaker 1: I would be more. I would be more impressed by 373 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:20,160 Speaker 1: sixty thousand miles, never had a component failure, and it's 374 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 1: had meticulous maintenance. I would probably put more hope to that. 375 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,560 Speaker 1: And that's partly because of what it is. It's an Audi, 376 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:28,879 Speaker 1: and it really wouldn't change much. You know, if this 377 00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 1: is a Toyota or a Honda, or a Chevy or 378 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 1: a Ford, my answer would still be the same. You 379 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,240 Speaker 1: know what, Like sitting in the chair, that car is 380 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:41,440 Speaker 1: is aging as it sits in the garage, and that's 381 00:22:41,480 --> 00:22:44,560 Speaker 1: going to have an effect on the reliability and it's 382 00:22:44,600 --> 00:22:48,159 Speaker 1: going to have an effect on the immortality of the 383 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:51,960 Speaker 1: vehicle in general. So mileage itself doesn't really carry the day, 384 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:56,159 Speaker 1: not at this age. It's eleven years old, right, this 385 00:22:56,359 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 1: is this is you know the model year cars are 386 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:04,440 Speaker 1: less than four months away. You know, you got to 387 00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:06,640 Speaker 1: think about that, how long that car has been out there? 388 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:13,200 Speaker 1: Second question, UM two thousand eleven, two thousand and twelve, avalon, 389 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:17,680 Speaker 1: that's really the car UM considering buying the next couple 390 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:22,440 Speaker 1: of months, I've restarted it a little bit UM bigger 391 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 1: car than when I haven't d driving outtimate. But just 392 00:23:26,000 --> 00:23:28,800 Speaker 1: in terms of reliability for the car in a UM 393 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,920 Speaker 1: you know, known pattern failures, anything, I should be on 394 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 1: the look out for that. No, most of the Toyotas 395 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,200 Speaker 1: of that of that vintage, you know you'll see the 396 00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 1: occasional charcoal canister go south. UM. There are issues with 397 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 1: a lot of the Toyotas in that vintage, and not 398 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:47,880 Speaker 1: just the Avalon's um oil consumption issues if the oil 399 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 1: hasn't been maintained properly and is as long as that's 400 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 1: been done, you want to look for that some catalytic 401 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:57,440 Speaker 1: converter stuff. Again, maintenance plays a heck of an important 402 00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 1: role in that. But I'll say it. I'll say it 403 00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:03,199 Speaker 1: like this. Let's compare the two vehicles. You've got the Audi, 404 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:08,160 Speaker 1: You've got the Toyota. The Audi. You need either an 405 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 1: Audi dealer or somebody with blonde hair and blue eyes 406 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 1: to work on the car in terms of capability, and 407 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,200 Speaker 1: they've got to speak German and have that dealer level 408 00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:21,400 Speaker 1: scan tool, which is by itself very expensive. They they 409 00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 1: OUTI does not make it easy for anyone outside of 410 00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 1: the dealership chain to work on it, which is kind 411 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 1: of interesting. Toyota gives you the ability for any repair 412 00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 1: shop can go out and buy the Toyota Factory scan 413 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 1: tool and plug it in thirty dollars a day and 414 00:24:39,720 --> 00:24:42,520 Speaker 1: have a subscription to the same information that the dealership has. 415 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:52,640 Speaker 1: Definitely affordable, definitely making it reparable for the masses. You know, Yeah, 416 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:54,879 Speaker 1: I like that. I like that Toyota as long as 417 00:24:54,920 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 1: it's the right car. Okay, um, you know car, And 418 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 1: I think this is probably the takeaway Glenn. Cars are 419 00:25:03,960 --> 00:25:07,720 Speaker 1: like kids when they were younger, think of You know, 420 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 1: I can remember when I was in my teens. I 421 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 1: could stay at all night. I can stay up to 422 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:12,879 Speaker 1: three or four o'clock in the morning, get up for 423 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 1: work at six o'clock and you know, be ready to 424 00:25:15,640 --> 00:25:19,760 Speaker 1: go for another fourteen eighteen hours. Now now I get 425 00:25:19,840 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 1: up at three o'clock in the morning to do something else, 426 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:24,119 Speaker 1: and I want to be in bed by eight o'clock 427 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:25,639 Speaker 1: the night before, and I'm tired, and I sleep all 428 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:29,360 Speaker 1: day until seven the next morning. Um, you know it's 429 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:32,639 Speaker 1: it's I'm not as durable as I once was. Cars 430 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,639 Speaker 1: are the same way and and the rougher you're on 431 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,000 Speaker 1: a car when it's younger. It always shows up an 432 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 1: old age, which is why I think I'm so well 433 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 1: preserved at this point. So yeah, real quick, okay, UM, 434 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:51,439 Speaker 1: if I go late model car two thousand four, two 435 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:55,160 Speaker 1: thousand and fifteen, I was thinking maybe a four cylinder 436 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,399 Speaker 1: or a six cylinder Camray or Accord. What do you 437 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 1: what do you think about that? Which I would take 438 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 1: the I would take the camera over the Honda, all right, 439 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,680 Speaker 1: only because my experience with Honda, and I'm allowed to 440 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:13,680 Speaker 1: have my opinion even though maybe people might disagree, is 441 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:17,879 Speaker 1: Honda seems to have this We're perfect attitude and that 442 00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:21,639 Speaker 1: just absolutely drives me insane. Um. You know, there are 443 00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:25,240 Speaker 1: no mistakes at Honda Motor Car Company. They're absolutely perfect, 444 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 1: or so they will tell you. And um, and I've 445 00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:31,680 Speaker 1: had conversations with them about that, and I would probably 446 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 1: take I would take out of the four of the six. 447 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 1: They're both good engines, they're both tried and true, and UM, 448 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna throw one. I'm gonna throw one more in 449 00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:40,280 Speaker 1: the mix. And it might be a curve for you. 450 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:44,480 Speaker 1: Go take a look at the Ford Fusion, really and true. 451 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:46,680 Speaker 1: Go take a look at the Ford Fusion and drive it. 452 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:52,240 Speaker 1: It's a nice car, um and Fords another fourteen fifteen 453 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:54,919 Speaker 1: and Forwards another car company. They make it very easy 454 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 1: for outside shops to get repair information and serviceability, and 455 00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,399 Speaker 1: they're they're very happy to take my money. They're very 456 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,400 Speaker 1: happy to answer questions. They're very happy to be part 457 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 1: of the repair process because they know that if I 458 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:10,200 Speaker 1: make you the customer happy with that car and fix 459 00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,880 Speaker 1: it properly, you're gonna come back and buy another one. 460 00:27:13,040 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 1: They've figured it out, is that fusion chain or belt 461 00:27:17,560 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 1: driven and five or six ft trams and then I'll stop. 462 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 1: I would believe it's going to depend on engine combinations 463 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 1: and some other factors. But by the same token, um, 464 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 1: I think the V six, not actually the V six 465 00:27:29,080 --> 00:27:30,840 Speaker 1: Toyota is going to be a chain in both of them. 466 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 1: I believe. I think Toyota did away with belts, and 467 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:38,159 Speaker 1: I believe the Ford is in the fourth cylinder. I 468 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,800 Speaker 1: believe it's a chain and I can't I can't recall 469 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:46,200 Speaker 1: what the six is, but definitely worth looking at. Alright, sir, Yeah, 470 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 1: both good motors. Both both good motors. So let me 471 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:52,879 Speaker 1: put it to you this way. We put You're very welcome, Glenn. 472 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:56,399 Speaker 1: You have a good rest of the afternoon. Zero the 473 00:27:56,440 --> 00:28:12,439 Speaker 1: car Doctor's back. Don't go away. They blow the fucking 474 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:16,360 Speaker 1: lot on a piece of land where the super could 475 00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 1: you this done? Before that? They pulled up the ball 476 00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:27,560 Speaker 1: in alley. Welcome back on Anny in the car doctor. 477 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:29,639 Speaker 1: The phones are getting backed up. Let me see if 478 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,240 Speaker 1: I can free up the traffic here. Let's start with 479 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 1: Barry and Marlborough, New Jersey two thousands, six four five. Barry, 480 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,480 Speaker 1: you're on with the car Doctor. How can I help? Okay? Thanks? 481 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:44,880 Speaker 1: Running the car. When I'm driving, say thirty, and I 482 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 1: let up on the gas, the rpm drops around rpm. 483 00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 1: And when I tried it even gently accelerate, the engine 484 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:55,160 Speaker 1: lugs like it's in too high a gear. If I 485 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:59,280 Speaker 1: pressed down harder, it'll downshift and accelerate fine. But if 486 00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 1: it's running you were around anyways below, it'll look okay. 487 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,680 Speaker 1: So how do I diagnose that problem? Well, the first 488 00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 1: thing I would do, and I have to tell you. 489 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 1: Out of all the FOURD products, and I like a 490 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 1: lot of them, it seems like the five hundreds have 491 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 1: this particular as a common trait, and it's it's not 492 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 1: This isn't the first time I've heard this complaint in 493 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 1: this symptom um. One of the things I would do 494 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 1: to see if this is trans related is this is 495 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 1: if this is trans I'll say it like this trans 496 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 1: information related, I would two foot this. If you tap 497 00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 1: the brake pedal while you're stepping on the gas, does 498 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:40,480 Speaker 1: it solve the problem? And by that, i'm what I've 499 00:29:40,520 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 1: seen is I've seen the transmission torque converter stay on 500 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 1: when it's not supposed to and either lock up or 501 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 1: it's in overdrive, it's in too high of a gear. 502 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:53,760 Speaker 1: Stepping on the brake automatically kicks it out because something 503 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 1: else is out of calibration or out of kilter, not 504 00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 1: automatically kicking it down based on load and speed. So 505 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 1: if while you're driving, however, and you're it's lugging, if 506 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 1: you tap the brake pedal, step on the brake while 507 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 1: you're stepping on the gas, does that change it and 508 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 1: cause the trans to shift, allowing proper operation at that point? 509 00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 1: That's number one. Number two. There are more than a 510 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 1: few reflashes available for this car, with everything from trans 511 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 1: shifting to throttle body operation to overall engine performance issues. 512 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 1: So I always, I mean, I always make sure all 513 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 1: the cars I'm diagnosing have latest software revisions. This is 514 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 1: one of those cars that's at the forefront of my mind. 515 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:42,960 Speaker 1: This particular generation of Ford products seems to thrive on reflashes, 516 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 1: so always make sure the software is the latest and 517 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 1: the greatest. Okay, number three. You're aware of the fact 518 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:56,400 Speaker 1: that maybe, and based on then this is particular this 519 00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:00,720 Speaker 1: vehicle might have an extended warranty for r PM and 520 00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:06,600 Speaker 1: throttle body issues. I okay, take a look at you 521 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 1: want to you want to get over to the Ford 522 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 1: store and take a look at UM or get yourself 523 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 1: a copy of there's a campaign regarding UM Engine idle 524 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 1: RPM warranty extension. And if memory serves me correct, it's 525 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 1: part number or bulletin or recall number. I'm sorry, recall 526 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,200 Speaker 1: number campaign number, I should say campaign. I want to 527 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 1: use right terminology Campaign number twelve and is in Nancy 528 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:35,920 Speaker 1: zero three, and that came out a couple of years ago, 529 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 1: and that talks about extending warranty on throttle bodies, for 530 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 1: carbon deposits and all sorts of drive ability issues that 531 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,560 Speaker 1: go on with these cars. That's that's that's where I 532 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 1: would approach this. That's that's how I would take this. 533 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,080 Speaker 1: I mean I could get into the pacifics of looking 534 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:51,640 Speaker 1: at fuel, trim and some of the other things with 535 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 1: a scan tool. But you know, in the interest of time, 536 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 1: I would say start here with these three areas and 537 00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:00,160 Speaker 1: then we can we can talk again next week if 538 00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 1: we have to ur the following week. Um, let's start 539 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 1: the ball there and see where that gets us. Let's 540 00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:08,440 Speaker 1: get over and talk to Mark in Connecticut two thousand nine. 541 00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 1: Toyota camera and some quick questions. Yes, a quick question 542 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:15,960 Speaker 1: for you. I've got a ninety thousand let's got ninety 543 00:32:15,960 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 1: thousand miles. Uh, we call it the camel. I'm our 544 00:32:18,920 --> 00:32:22,960 Speaker 1: meaning like the South to put a camel came right. Um, 545 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 1: I've got ninety do I Is there any maintenance issues 546 00:32:27,400 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 1: that should be aware of, like flushing the transmission and 547 00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 1: the brandy, the ulul, doing hoses, that kind of thing. 548 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 1: Well to know to know what needs to be done. Now, Mark, 549 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:41,080 Speaker 1: you got to look back what was done at sixty anything. Honestly, 550 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 1: I bought the car seen thousand miles some of the 551 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,720 Speaker 1: second owner. I use it for work. I travel across 552 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:49,320 Speaker 1: to Connecticut. The only thing I've done it change the 553 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 1: oil in the filter. You know, that nothing else. So 554 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 1: if if you know, if it's been thirty thousand miles 555 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,000 Speaker 1: since flu has been done, or if it's been longer, 556 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 1: you know, we do that has Toyota uh WS fluid 557 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 1: in it, the world class stuff, their upgraded fluid, and 558 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 1: they tell you change it never or until when the 559 00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 1: trans blows up. In reality, real life, we typically do 560 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 1: it every forty five to fifty thousand miles. And that 561 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 1: seems to me where the dealers are doing it. And 562 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 1: you know, this is a case where the dealer and 563 00:33:16,880 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 1: I are in agreement that, yeah, everytes a good time 564 00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 1: to change Toyota WS fluid. So definitely a trans fluid 565 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:25,960 Speaker 1: change at this point in its life. I wouldn't necessarily 566 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 1: do a flush um in exchange if you can get 567 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,200 Speaker 1: somebody with an exchanger, but to change the fluid would 568 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:33,880 Speaker 1: be a good idea. When was the last time coolant 569 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:37,880 Speaker 1: was done? I'm guessing it's it's probably original, it's a 570 00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 1: two thousand nine. It's probably a very bright pink fluid, 571 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:45,200 Speaker 1: which is Toyota Super long life five year coolant. If 572 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 1: the coolant hasn't been done and you've owned the car 573 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:51,360 Speaker 1: for a couple of years, it's time, spark plugs. Spark 574 00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 1: plugs are a great thing to take a look at now, 575 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:55,480 Speaker 1: simply because of the age of the vehicle and you're 576 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 1: approaching the mileage limit. I don't like to let things 577 00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 1: go to a hundred thousand. Do it at ninety. Get 578 00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 1: it over with a carbon cleaning. Find a shop that 579 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,680 Speaker 1: does a carbon cleaning service. B G Fuel System products, 580 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 1: we've been talking about them lately. Good way to go 581 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:11,400 Speaker 1: professional series stuff. B G Fuel System products. You'll find 582 00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 1: them out on the web. You want to read more 583 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:17,279 Speaker 1: information break fluid flush hoses. Hoses are pretty durable, but 584 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,320 Speaker 1: you know here, you are six seven years old. You 585 00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:20,920 Speaker 1: wouldn't have to twist my arm to get me to 586 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,879 Speaker 1: put up or in lower radiator hoses. And the thermostat 587 00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:27,040 Speaker 1: on this particular vehicle. Get out to stand dot com 588 00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 1: to read more about thermostats and what their operational cycle 589 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:32,240 Speaker 1: is and by all means, take a look at the brakes, 590 00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:34,880 Speaker 1: take a look at the tires. Maybe a tire rotation. 591 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 1: You can get out the General tire dot Com read 592 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:38,880 Speaker 1: more about tires and why you want to change them 593 00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 1: and some of the things to look for their and 594 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 1: if you have any other questions, Mark give us a 595 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,279 Speaker 1: called back. I'm sorry, the Cluck's gonna take us and 596 00:34:44,719 --> 00:34:48,040 Speaker 1: we can be more detail. Maybe next week. Let's pull 597 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:49,680 Speaker 1: over and take the pause. I'm running any of the 598 00:34:49,719 --> 00:35:19,400 Speaker 1: car Doctor. Well be right back the welcome back of 599 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:21,480 Speaker 1: the Car Doctor. Real quick. Let's get over to Irene 600 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:24,560 Speaker 1: and some questions about an OH seven Chevy Malibu. Irene. 601 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:26,640 Speaker 1: I've got about a minute and a half ago. Yeah, 602 00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:31,239 Speaker 1: the light comes on, says low low fuel. I get 603 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,640 Speaker 1: the tank field clear up and it still comes on. Okay, 604 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:39,360 Speaker 1: you probably have a bad fuel level sender, meaning the 605 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:43,520 Speaker 1: the the unit in the tank that read that reads 606 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 1: and reports fuel level is not working. They've had more 607 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:51,000 Speaker 1: than a few problems with them. That depending upon the 608 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,320 Speaker 1: quality of the fuel being used in the vehicle. And 609 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,320 Speaker 1: this doesn't seem to be anything you're doing, but millions 610 00:35:56,360 --> 00:36:00,400 Speaker 1: of people are doing. The sensors themselves are getting coded 611 00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,560 Speaker 1: with a sulfur like product and it's causing sender issues. 612 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,960 Speaker 1: Sometimes fuel tank cleaners or fuel system cleaners can help it, 613 00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:10,360 Speaker 1: but in the majority of cases it is a fuel 614 00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,080 Speaker 1: level sender. The piece in the tank with the mechanic 615 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:16,000 Speaker 1: can do to help move the diagnosis along if they 616 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,800 Speaker 1: plug in a scan tool to the connector under the 617 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:22,680 Speaker 1: dash and read for fault codes they will own all likelihood. 618 00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:27,200 Speaker 1: See a PAS in Peter zero four sixty three four 619 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:31,400 Speaker 1: six three fault code which is an improper or inaccurate 620 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:35,120 Speaker 1: fuel level sender reading um in English, the gas tank 621 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:38,000 Speaker 1: sending unit isn't reading and the computer is picking up 622 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:40,239 Speaker 1: on that and setting a fault code. One thing to 623 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:43,680 Speaker 1: note this particular car you might find in general motors 624 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:47,759 Speaker 1: comment bulletin p I P about the fuel gage reading 625 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:50,759 Speaker 1: backwards after part replacement, wrong part in the catalog, and 626 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:52,400 Speaker 1: make sure you check it. I'm on an eating in 627 00:36:52,400 --> 00:37:01,640 Speaker 1: the car. Doctric mechanics aren't expensive. Their placeless star seven