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Speaker 1: Hell loa, it's like like not a not a daughter,

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Speaker 1: just a Kelly. Her name is Kelly and grandmother to

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Speaker 2: It's a great name.

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Speaker 1: Love that name. It's cute. I like it, beautyful as

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Speaker 1: an Opal. Kelly became pregnant with Opal at sixteen. Yikes,

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Speaker 1: rough man, sixteen man. My husband Eddie and I've always

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Speaker 1: it up for adoption. Okay, there you have it. Damn.

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Speaker 1: That's that's committment. So that's a bold move, bold move.

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Speaker 1: We helped a lot as Kelly was only seventeen when

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Speaker 1: a lot. Dude, Like having a kid at seventeen, yeah, man,

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Speaker 1: it's gotta be really hard, super tough. However, Kelly would

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Speaker 3: And so yeah, literally, it's like so crazy because They're

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Speaker 3: like like an angsty teenager. It's like, no, Mom, I'm

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Speaker 3: listening to the new Britney Spear CD. Stop bothering me.

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Speaker 3: It's like bruh as your.

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Speaker 1: Child, Well to update it for for this generation? What

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Speaker 1: you listening to the new Olivio Rego.

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Speaker 3: BTS just dropped a new album. Come on, they did

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Speaker 3: just drop a new album, by the way, BTS just did. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Even asking her to watch Opal for an hour while

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Speaker 1: wanted this, oh man. Kelly chose not to attend college.

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Speaker 1: After graduation, she had a job with a flexible schedule,

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Speaker 1: yet she rarely made herself available for opel. Kelly was

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Speaker 1: She also relied on us to purchase supplies and book

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Speaker 1: I would have expected more from a seventeen year old

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Speaker 1: love just kidding, young teenager. Why aren't you the perfect mom?

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Speaker 1: I don't understand, but I don't know what you do

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Speaker 2: Yeah, what are you gonna say?

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Speaker 3: No? I mean, yeah, you're gonna keep it. So and

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Speaker 3: so it's like it's like an angsty team. Like you're

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Speaker 3: usually fighting over like you know, come back, come back

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Speaker 3: before eleven thirty, not like change your child's diapers are Like.

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Speaker 1: Why this is a completely different stake.

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Speaker 3: Such a y way different stakes. Kelly moved out when

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Speaker 3: Ople was six. Kelly comes around maybe once a fortnight,

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Speaker 2: This is a middle aged mom, right, it has.

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Speaker 1: Been a fortnight since I saw you last. Kelly comes

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Speaker 1: I have been the ones to raise Ople and Ople

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Speaker 1: is doing extremely well. She has good friends, plays tennis,

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Speaker 2: Dude, I'm team Ople over.

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Speaker 1: Here, snaps for Ople. I mean, like, Kelly didn't do

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Speaker 2: Dude, they crushed it.

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Speaker 1: Opee, the parent parents, that's right, I guess the grandparents. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: good grandparenting. Grandparenting kill it. The school year ended for

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Speaker 1: Ople last week, so we had a nice dinner to

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Speaker 2: Come on, what are we doing? What is going on?

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Speaker 1: Kelly's womb is freaking in overdrive?

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Speaker 3: Well, there was sixteen years apart, one baby every sixteen years.

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Speaker 2: You just got a freaking pasuka between You're like.

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Speaker 1: And actually that's coming from my family. My my, my

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Speaker 1: It's probably lower than that. Get on the case, all.

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Speaker 2: Right, so check me out, all right. So the woman.

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Speaker 3: Valentina vassil lev Yev. Okay, I bet you that gave

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Speaker 3: birth to a grand total of sixty nine children.

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Speaker 1: Sixty nine wait, sixty nine children, yeap of like from

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Speaker 3: It was between seventeen twenty five and seventeen sixty five

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure it's Genghis Genghis Khan. Eight percent of

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Speaker 1: That's insane, Okay. She announced to us that she was

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Speaker 1: After Edding and I called her out, Kelly confirmed that

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Speaker 2: Announcement too busy? But I'm having a baby, but I

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Speaker 1: My god. Kelly said how she and her boyfriend did

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Speaker 1: She assumed we, at almost sixty years old, would have

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Speaker 3: Of course, she should be able to just dump whatever

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Speaker 1: Ridiculous, this is ridiculous. Oh god, Eddie and I interrupted

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Speaker 1: anything for it. Supplies, child color, et cetera. Kelly flipped

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Speaker 1: out in an argument ensued. Kelly called us heartless and

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Speaker 3: It's just it's just it's just so amazing and incredible

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Speaker 1: This is my mind. Ridiculous, dude, ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: But there isn't at it? Oh, Ople is always able

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Speaker 1: Ople visited the therapist weekly during middle school, but now

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Speaker 1: We will be taking Ople on a mall trip to

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Speaker 1: we in no way view her as a burden. Our

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Speaker 1: We are now too old to able to. We are

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Speaker 1: The reality is that Eddie and I aren't going to

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Speaker 1: It is why Kelly needs to accept that she cannot

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Speaker 1: expect us to take on her responsibilities and must be independent.

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Speaker 3: Why can't I just have as many children as they

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Speaker 3: want to give them to you to raise?

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Speaker 2: Why can I do that?

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Speaker 1: This is the dumbest thing ever, bro.

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Speaker 3: What I love is that Opal at sixteen seems like

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Speaker 3: I mean she's going at therapy. It sounded like she

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Speaker 3: could see her questioning that, But it sounded like she

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Speaker 3: Like you know, you weren't. That wasn't any way a

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Speaker 1: Opel's the goat. Opel is the goat.