1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,160 Speaker 1: Let's get to our guest. Christina Hooper joins us. She 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:08,880 Speaker 1: is chief Global market strategist at Investco Advisors, joining from Greenwich, Connecticut. 3 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: Happy New Year, Christina, thanks for being with us, Happy 4 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:14,000 Speaker 1: New Year. Thank you so much for having me. Are 5 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:16,599 Speaker 1: you in the camp that we are going to avoid 6 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: recession this year? Because I was looking at some notes earlier, 7 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:21,639 Speaker 1: it's kind of an interesting call. A couple of the 8 00:00:21,640 --> 00:00:25,320 Speaker 1: big firms on Wall Street, so JP, Morgan, black Rock, 9 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: they say, yes, we'll have a recession this year, Goldman, Morgan, 10 00:00:28,800 --> 00:00:33,520 Speaker 1: Stanley not so sure. They see no recession. What's your view, Well, 11 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:38,760 Speaker 1: I actually believe that we're likely to see either a 12 00:00:38,760 --> 00:00:43,200 Speaker 1: pretty significant downturn or a very mild recession, and it's 13 00:00:43,280 --> 00:00:48,160 Speaker 1: likely to be relatively brief. So somewhere in between those 14 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 1: two camps, I think is is very likely where we 15 00:00:51,520 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: will end up. Again. This is a situation that is 16 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:59,560 Speaker 1: evolving day by day, and it is incredibly dependent upon 17 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:02,800 Speaker 1: the FED and exactly what it does. But based on 18 00:01:02,920 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 1: the numbers we're seeing in terms of inflation data, I 19 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:09,479 Speaker 1: would expect the FED to hit the pause button um 20 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 1: likely by the end of the first quarter of three 21 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:16,000 Speaker 1: and I think that should put the U. S economy 22 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:18,680 Speaker 1: in a place where there's not that much damage that's 23 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 1: been done. Um, there's an enormous amount of resilience and 24 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:25,840 Speaker 1: some real areas of strength for the U. S economy. Um. So, 25 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: the downturn is is unlikely to be severe, Christina, Okay, 26 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:33,399 Speaker 1: to be that as it may. But do you think 27 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:36,560 Speaker 1: it would be strong enough for a bad enough recession 28 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 1: to perhaps alter the structure of the U. S economy 29 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: as many people suggest the next recession ought to given 30 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:44,839 Speaker 1: that it's been propped up by monetary policy for so long. 31 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: And you know, if so, how does that evolve? Well? 32 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: I would make the argument that monetary policy has actually 33 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: had a bigger impact on markets than it has had 34 00:01:56,480 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 1: on the main street economy. Um uh. Now, having said that, 35 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: do I expect some significant impact on markets? Yes, so 36 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 1: we've seen that in the past year, and I think 37 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 1: we'll continue to see that. Um. In terms of the economy, 38 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:15,679 Speaker 1: I don't think it's going to have as much of 39 00:02:15,720 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 1: an impact. I'm not a strict monitorist. So if you 40 00:02:19,440 --> 00:02:22,919 Speaker 1: look at the Nasdaq one for all of the worst 41 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:28,359 Speaker 1: performing of the major US indices down, are you concerned 42 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:33,080 Speaker 1: about investor sentiment right now, have people become more those 43 00:02:33,120 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 1: who play the market or in putting capital to work 44 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: in markets? A little shell shocked? Oh? Absolutely, investor sentiment 45 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: as negative, But we can look at that as a 46 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 1: positive um. Right, because as we see investor sentiment get 47 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: more negative, opportunities become more abundant. Uh. And so we're 48 00:02:56,320 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 1: moving into after an admittedly terror two and I think 49 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 1: opportunities UM will be presenting themselves as as the year unfold, 50 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 1: and quite frankly, when we get to the point where 51 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:13,680 Speaker 1: the FED hits the pause button and other central banks 52 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:17,160 Speaker 1: are getting closer to that UM, I think that's when 53 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 1: we could start to see UM some some traction, some 54 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:26,840 Speaker 1: positive traction. UM. And while I would expect earnings to 55 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: be downwardly adjusted, that will present a headwind, but it 56 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 1: will be countered quite adequately by the tailwind of the 57 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: central bank pause. Okay, so where does that leave emerging markets? 58 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 1: Because you ask rather key question in all this how 59 00:03:43,960 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 1: much e M exposure should one have and wear well. 60 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 1: Emerging markets, in my opinion, will be beneficiaries in now, 61 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:59,760 Speaker 1: not at the onset of three, but as the year evolves. UM. 62 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: The dollar has clearly peaked, uh, and is weakening. UM. 63 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 1: Beyond that, though, what we've seen is a number of 64 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: emerging markets economies UM that were UM faster, UM swifter 65 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: UM to combat inflation, so their central banks acted more quickly. UM. 66 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: They're they're not seeing the kind of of dramatic tightening. 67 00:04:23,279 --> 00:04:25,719 Speaker 1: And I'm making a gross generalization, but they're not seeing 68 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:27,960 Speaker 1: in general the kind of of tightening that a lot 69 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 1: of major Western central banks have seen. And of course, UM, 70 00:04:31,600 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 1: they're looking forward to the potential for greater growth later 71 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: this year. Let's let's focus in on em Asia UM. 72 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 1: China I believe will be a very powerful positive force 73 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: UM later this year. UM. Now, of course, there are 74 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:51,520 Speaker 1: headwinds right now because of COVID reopenings. UM. This is 75 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 1: a necessary effect of ripping off the band aid. But 76 00:04:54,640 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 1: I think it certainly clears the way for some real 77 00:04:57,120 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: strong growth later this year and perhaps suh, some alleviation 78 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:05,359 Speaker 1: in terms of the stress that's been building along supply chains. Christina, 79 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:08,240 Speaker 1: it's always a pleasure. Happy New year once again. Christina 80 00:05:08,279 --> 00:05:12,280 Speaker 1: Hooper is a chief Global market Strategist at Investco Advisors.