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Speaker 1: It's ready. Are you welcome to stump Mom never told

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Speaker 1: welcome to the podcast. I'm Kristen and I'm Molly. Molly.

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Speaker 1: I made a mistake this morning my breakfast choices. I

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Speaker 1: do not feel fantastic through craving backfired on you, backfired

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Speaker 1: big time. See. I had the opposite experience this morning.

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Speaker 1: I craved some waffles. I had the waffles. They were delicious.

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Speaker 1: Oh well, good for you, Molly. But I think the

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Speaker 1: reason that we're both I don't know, maybe very obsessed

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Speaker 1: I was thinking about the kinds of foods I crave

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Speaker 1: strange because, um, most women crave sweet foods, least women

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Speaker 1: if that's as a female, you're much more likely to

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Speaker 1: contrary to most of our topics. You know. I feel

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Speaker 1: I feel like it just happens to women because of

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Speaker 1: pica that a lot of pregnant women experience, and pica

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Speaker 1: body doesn't crave waffles because it needs waffles now, no,

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Speaker 1: nor does your body need icing, Molly Um. Food cravings

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Speaker 1: It's a completely different thing from actual hunger. When you're hungry,

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Speaker 1: from what I understand, Christen, there's no one hormone that's

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Speaker 1: Really yeah, so icing is sort of like crack, kind

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Speaker 1: want them all the time, Kristen, But why do I

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Speaker 1: only seventy men really have any food cravings at all. Well,

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Speaker 1: I have your food cravings. But in a pretty interesting

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Speaker 1: study that was just published in Time magazine, not only

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Speaker 1: do they have your food cravings, but if they do

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Speaker 1: have a food craving, they can turn it off much

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Speaker 1: easier than women can. Uh. In this study, men and

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Speaker 1: taught this um mechanism of cognitive suppression to deal with

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Speaker 1: so let's say that they interviewed me and they're like, oh,

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Speaker 1: you know, I really like cupcakes. So after my fasting,

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Speaker 1: they hooked me up to some brain scanners. They put

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Speaker 1: a cupcake in front of me and they said, we

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Speaker 1: baked this fresh. You've been so hungry, and they're like,

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Speaker 1: we use the best cream cheese icing on this cupcake.

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Speaker 1: It's red velvet, which happens to be a particular favorite

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Speaker 1: of mine. And then they watched my brain and they

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Speaker 1: did they let you eat it? They don't. They just

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Speaker 1: watched your brain as an evil study. That's why studies

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Speaker 1: are awful. Um. But so my brain is firing, like

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Speaker 1: Whereas we're men's brains O, men's brains just went dormant,

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Speaker 1: which makes just say something about men but um no,

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Speaker 1: so it seems like for women, food cravings or just

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Speaker 1: something that it's it's just a fact of life. We

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Speaker 1: just gotta do with one of those things. So instead

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Speaker 1: of trying to, you know, get rid of our food cravings,

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Speaker 1: it's all about management. So maybe things like keeping cupcakes

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Speaker 1: you know that uh serve gravy, that serve gravy, right,

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Speaker 1: because things like site, smell, time of day, all of

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Speaker 1: that can trigger these food cravings that we need to

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Speaker 1: be aware of. So frankly, I found this podcast pretty

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Speaker 1: encouraging because it means I can still eat cupcakes. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and now all that talk about red velvet cupcakes, I

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Speaker 1: kind of want one, craving one. Yeah, let's I think,

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Speaker 1: let's get out of here and go eat cupcakes. So well,

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Speaker 1: we're out grabbing a cupcake. Why don't you head on

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Speaker 1: over and read the article on through cravings at how

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