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Speaker 1: I'm George Wright with Ralph Amsden and this is the

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Speaker 1: Pac twelve Apostles. Thank you guys so much for listening

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Speaker 1: just just don't. But Ralph, what's up, man? We just

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Speaker 1: watched a great National Championship game. We saw L s U,

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Speaker 1: It was it was like very grouchy, very like, oh man,

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Speaker 1: this guy's name is Benjamin apple Bomb. He said, L

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Speaker 1: Obviously L s U s professional football players aren't there

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Speaker 1: is is that, yes, Oregon States and wide receivers did

430
00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 1: a good job. However, against Washington and against Oregon, they

431
00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:42,160
Speaker 1: did nothing ineffective they might as well have not even

432
00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:46,080
Speaker 1: been on the field, so they could not get open.

433
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 1: It was very, very difficult. Couldn't get open against Utah either,

434
00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:54,200
Speaker 1: just wiped out. So and and L s U S

435
00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 1: dbs are better. Pass pass rust is better. I think

436
00:27:59,320 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 1: Oregon Stay might get blanked. Yeah, I think I think

437
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 1: they get blanked in the game, because I mean against

438
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 1: Washington they didn't even score except on defense. Yeah, did

439
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 1: they have everybody they running backs for that, I can't remember.

440
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 1: It's okay, yep, yeah, Jeff Jefferson and all I definitely

441
00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 1: it's it's possible. I gave him too much credit. All right,

442
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:28,479
Speaker 1: what does that bring for Oregon State? Because they wouldn't

443
00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,440
Speaker 1: be able to move the ball very much. Uls you

444
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,840
Speaker 1: would have the ball a ton, George, I am going

445
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 1: seventy to zero, Yes, Ralph, you heard me, seventy to

446
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 1: zero for Oregon State. I just don't see how they

447
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 1: could score any points against L s U. There. I mean,

448
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 1: they got stifled by Oregon Washington and Oregon Washington and

449
00:28:55,840 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 1: Utah just absolutely just shut out. And yeah, I just

450
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,840
Speaker 1: don't know how they would score because the things that

451
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 1: the things that L s U S defense does really

452
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 1: really well, play to the strengths of Oregon State. I'm sorry,

453
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 1: play to the weaknesses of Oregon State. So this is

454
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 1: one of those styles make fights stink. That's why a

455
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 1: score of a game is not always indicative of necessarily

456
00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 1: the greatness of a team. Sometimes certain weaknesses match up

457
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 1: with another team strengths better. So that's why Oregon State

458
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:36,680
Speaker 1: seventies zero. Yeah, I mean actually no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

459
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:40,080
Speaker 1: no no, I'm gonna go sixty three because Oregon State

460
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 1: would run, run the football a lot and take some

461
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 1: time off the five. I don't know, I do. I

462
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 1: do think that they would score. And the reason that

463
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 1: I think that they would score is both Texas and

464
00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:59,200
Speaker 1: Oregon State, uh drop thirty six against Oklahoma State, and

465
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 1: I think Texas put up that amount of points against Elsie.

466
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:04,160
Speaker 1: So I do, I do. It's transitive property stuff, but

467
00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,760
Speaker 1: I do think they get some points. It would be

468
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 1: a blood bath. You're right about that, which brings me

469
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:10,800
Speaker 1: to Stanford. And this is a tricky one for me

470
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:15,239
Speaker 1: because who even is nineteen Stanford. Who's the quarterback? Like,

471
00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 1: who would you say the main quarterback of the twenty

472
00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:26,240
Speaker 1: nineteen Stanford Cardinal was. That's a good question, Davis Mills

473
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 1: or was the k J Costello? So I think either

474
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 1: way they get wrecked. But I guess you gotta give

475
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 1: two scores, okay, and we're gonna go optimal twenty nineteen Stanford. Uh,

476
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 1: they have pauls and a Debo at corner who is

477
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 1: a shutdown corner, fantastic player. So you have them. Stanford

478
00:30:53,200 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 1: scores couple of couple of touchdowns. They they are just

479
00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 1: chewing the clock though, I mean, is it is just

480
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 1: hard to but this game is not even close. I'm

481
00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 1: gonna go fifty one to fourteen. No, because David Shaw

482
00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 1: is a big field goal kicker. I'm gonna go, um,

483
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:25,880
Speaker 1: fifty one to sixteen. Okay, that's amazingly that's one of

484
00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 1: the closer scores that we've that we've had so far. Um,

485
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:41,040
Speaker 1: what abounce, let's go with Let's just do Washington, Oh dude. Surprisingly,

486
00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 1: I think that Washington would comport themselves offensively better than

487
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:55,480
Speaker 1: most people would because Washington shift motion just they take

488
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 1: all damn day. When they have the ball and they

489
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 1: have some explosive of running backs, they would they have

490
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 1: a good offensive line, they would get some first downs.

491
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:09,520
Speaker 1: Jacob Eaton is good enough to complete some passes, provided

492
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 1: we got good Jacob Eason right and he's not taking

493
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 1: eighteen yard sacks. Um, I'm going to go. I'm gonna

494
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,400
Speaker 1: say that Washington keeps the score pretty low. Actually, I'm

495
00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 1: gonna go with forty ninety nine to twenty. Yeah, I'm

496
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:39,600
Speaker 1: gonna go for alright. What about what I'm Mike Leach

497
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:43,760
Speaker 1: is Washington State Cougars. Obviously they moved the ball on

498
00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,840
Speaker 1: almost everyone. L s U is a team that you

499
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,320
Speaker 1: can move the ball on, and with those quick passes,

500
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 1: it kind of neutralizes l s u s d line,

501
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 1: which is probably the strength of that defense. But those

502
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 1: linebackers and defensive backs will be laying some big hits

503
00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 1: on on on the receivers. Um, where do you put

504
00:33:00,640 --> 00:33:05,719
Speaker 1: this score at the Okay, I'm putting this score provided

505
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 1: that l s U plays against no air raid teams.

506
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:15,640
Speaker 1: They played predominantly man coverage, which is awful against the

507
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 1: air rad No matter how great your dbs are to

508
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:22,120
Speaker 1: play that every play is just it doesn't work because

509
00:33:22,120 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 1: there's so many pick routes, crossing routes, all this stuff.

510
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,480
Speaker 1: And Mike Leach's offense would do really well in the

511
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:34,120
Speaker 1: first half and then get stymied in the second half

512
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 1: once once they figured out, but they would make it

513
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 1: tough on them. This is the first year that they

514
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 1: played them. Uh, Like, the same thing is gonna happen

515
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 1: against Mississippi State playing against l s U next year. Um,

516
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 1: Washington State can't stop a nosebligue. So they're gonna get

517
00:33:56,320 --> 00:34:00,120
Speaker 1: seventy points put up on them, but they're going to

518
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 1: score thirty eight. Thirty eight. That's good. That's that's the

519
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 1: most so far. Right, Yeah, they still lose about thirty

520
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 1: two points. But but I just think that that their

521
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:18,799
Speaker 1: offense is tricky and if you haven't played against it

522
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:22,840
Speaker 1: a bunch of times, and L s U predominantly plays

523
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:26,520
Speaker 1: only man coverage, they would give up a lot of

524
00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:30,360
Speaker 1: big plays and and a lot of just nickel dime

525
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:33,399
Speaker 1: all of that stuff and board board you would have

526
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 1: fifteen catches for a hundred and eighty yards and in

527
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 1: a touchdown. All right, well, let's uh, let's go with UM,

528
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:47,200
Speaker 1: I mean, similar offense, upgrade the talent a little bit.

529
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 1: How would USC do against this L s U team?

530
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:57,200
Speaker 1: I think this might be an okay game for a minute. Wow,

531
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 1: you know, this is what key in Slopus at quarterback,

532
00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 1: the team at full strip. Um, you can leave the

533
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 1: running backs on the bus, though, since they don't on

534
00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:14,480
Speaker 1: the ball. Yeah, I'm gonna give And USC does have

535
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:18,360
Speaker 1: some players they would make some plays. Um, their secondary

536
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:21,439
Speaker 1: would get absolutely just torched because they because they don't

537
00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:29,000
Speaker 1: get interceptions. They Um, I would say, what's what's the

538
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 1: most points that USC gave up this season? The most

539
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:38,439
Speaker 1: that they gave up all year? Let's see, Um, Well,

540
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:43,880
Speaker 1: I would go against Oregon. They gave up what and

541
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 1: that was the wheels really came off like there was

542
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:50,399
Speaker 1: a with the defensive touchdown right or the kickoff return touchdown? Yeah,

543
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:54,360
Speaker 1: a kickoff and a defensive For the most part, USC

544
00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 1: actually did a pretty decent job of holding most of

545
00:35:56,920 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 1: their opponents below h third. Notre Dame had exactly thirty,

546
00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 1: Colorado had thirty one. UM. But yeah, Oregon, Oregon blew

547
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:09,280
Speaker 1: the doors off them at the Colosseum. And then obviously

548
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:13,479
Speaker 1: we all saw what happened with Um, we all saw

549
00:36:13,480 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 1: what happened with Iowa in the Holiday Bowl. That was

550
00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 1: See that's what's weird to me, is this right? Is

551
00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,839
Speaker 1: that I would have thought that USC would have been

552
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:27,840
Speaker 1: able to score more points. Right, my, my, my, my.

553
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 1: I was defensive is fantastic and completely underrated. I was

554
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 1: defense is better than and that was really a Matt

555
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 1: Saint issue. I mean, Matt Faint came in and they

556
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:41,239
Speaker 1: stopped being able to move the ball. Yep. So I'm

557
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:52,160
Speaker 1: gonna go sixty three, two thirty eight. Well, Joe Burrows

558
00:36:52,280 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 1: breaking his own record right now? Planning in competition? This

559
00:36:57,719 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 1: is bad, all right, dude, I mean, but actually, actually, no, no,

560
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 1: that this is their defense. I'm going sixty. Does U

561
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 1: c l A come out and lay an egg? Or

562
00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 1: are they competitive because there were a couple of games

563
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 1: where they were pretty competitive against probably better competition. Yeah no, no,

564
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 1: you saw what happened U c l A versus Oklahoma, right, yes, yes?

565
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 1: And then what did they do the next week? What

566
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:34,720
Speaker 1: do they do seven days later? I guess who? As

567
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 1: Washington State against Washington State. Seven days later, they went

568
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 1: from scoring fourteen points to sixty seven. Correct, But that

569
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 1: was I mean, and truthfully, they were shut down in

570
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 1: the first half against Washington State and it took a

571
00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:54,360
Speaker 1: bunch of turnovers and just wild play. So the answer

572
00:37:54,400 --> 00:37:59,360
Speaker 1: to this question is U c l A has nearly

573
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:04,359
Speaker 1: a as bad a past defense as and the only

574
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 1: reason why Colorado only would hold them the sixty three

575
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 1: points is because Colorado would actually score points to So

576
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 1: I'm actually gonna give them the same score as Colorado,

577
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:21,240
Speaker 1: sixty three to seventeen. Yes, Ralph sixty three to seventeen.

578
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 1: That feels about appropriate for U. C. L A. I

579
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 1: mean they tried to do it a couple of times

580
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:30,280
Speaker 1: this year. They they had a couple of really bad losses.

581
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 1: Do you think this would be a game, Yeah, I'm

582
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 1: gonna go seventy to seventeen more appropriate. Do you think

583
00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:41,600
Speaker 1: Dorian Thompson Robinson has one of those games where he

584
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,799
Speaker 1: absolutely embarrasses himself like he did at Utah, or you

585
00:38:44,840 --> 00:38:52,120
Speaker 1: think he flashes some some decent uh stuff against good defenses.

586
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:57,440
Speaker 1: He has not flashed anything really this season. He didn't flash.

587
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:03,320
Speaker 1: He had some terrible mistakes again um against Cincinnati, didn't

588
00:39:03,320 --> 00:39:07,040
Speaker 1: play great. Against San Diego State Oklahoma, he had a

589
00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 1: couple of moments, but then didn't look great as well.

590
00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 1: Did I mean like against good defenses, He's not had

591
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:18,600
Speaker 1: really good performances. So it's hard for me to think

592
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 1: that L S U Speed Which would you know kind

593
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 1: of Negate, somebody's running a little bit. Would uh would? Yeah?

594
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 1: I just don't see that as being a huge factor.

595
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 1: All right, And this is where I'm excited to wind

596
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:39,360
Speaker 1: this up because there were a few times during the

597
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 1: season where I noticed, whether it was Utah fans or

598
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:48,319
Speaker 1: some other people mentioned that Utah probably would match up

599
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:51,960
Speaker 1: with ls you better than Oklahoma did. We might have

600
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 1: even said it on this podcast. I I don't want

601
00:39:55,880 --> 00:39:58,640
Speaker 1: to get too into receipts because obviously the way that

602
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 1: Utah finished the season was pretty embarrassing. But where where

603
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,360
Speaker 1: are we at here? Have any minds changed you? And

604
00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:11,520
Speaker 1: we're talking Utah at their absolute best, so bringing their

605
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 1: a game and you saw L s U s a

606
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:17,800
Speaker 1: game last night like that? Yeah, but what was their best? Though? What?

607
00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 1: What was you tas us best? Because they didn't play

608
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:25,839
Speaker 1: against any good non conference competition and then when they

609
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 1: ran against the top Pack twelve team they got destroyed

610
00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:36,880
Speaker 1: and then they got housed by Texas. What what were they? Really?

611
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:40,440
Speaker 1: Is the question? You're talking about L s U blowing

612
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 1: out every single one of these Pack twelve teams Oregon included,

613
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,520
Speaker 1: and for a minute there, that's exactly what Utah was

614
00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:54,360
Speaker 1: doing so the talking game, a three touchdown win over

615
00:40:55,000 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 1: Washington State, we're talking about a forty five put point

616
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:04,400
Speaker 1: when at Oregon State we're talking about not allowing Arizona

617
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 1: State to even what crossed the fifty yard line. UM

618
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:15,279
Speaker 1: they shut out cal We beat Washington in Seattle. They

619
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 1: they beat Utah to three, and they beat Arizona in

620
00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:23,879
Speaker 1: Tucson thirty five to seven, and then Colorado they beat

621
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:27,880
Speaker 1: by thirties. So it's you know, this is this was

622
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:29,800
Speaker 1: a team that for a minute there we were talking

623
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 1: about one of the great defenses in Pact twelve history,

624
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:37,480
Speaker 1: and it all completely evaporates and gets lost because of

625
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:41,640
Speaker 1: how they of how they ended the season. They absolutely

626
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 1: embarrassed themselves against Oregon and then they played with no

627
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:47,759
Speaker 1: heart against Texas. So you know, obviously l s U

628
00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 1: and Texas went head to head and we saw what

629
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 1: happened there. Texas basically put up the same amount of

630
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 1: points against UM Utah as they did L s You did.

631
00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 1: So if Utah's defense shows up, what can they do?

632
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 1: If their defense shows up, They're still not gonna be

633
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 1: able to shut down L s U, which is which

634
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,879
Speaker 1: I think the Clemson's defense is good because they're were

635
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:19,759
Speaker 1: very well coached and because Clemson, I'm sorry, LS you

636
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:24,320
Speaker 1: put such stress on your secondary and and U Tak's

637
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 1: problem would be this. If you talk could keep them,

638
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:33,520
Speaker 1: could keep L s U from scoring, this game would

639
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 1: be very low scoring comparatively. Um but I just the

640
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:46,839
Speaker 1: problem that U talk runs into is when they have

641
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 1: to pass the football, when they get in must throw situations,

642
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:55,440
Speaker 1: and that's where they would be against L s U.

643
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:59,600
Speaker 1: Because they can't. Tyler Huntley is not a great pass

644
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 1: or when he has to throw the football. He's good

645
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 1: off of play action, off of you know, boots, rollouts, run,

646
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:12,120
Speaker 1: pass options, stuff, and and they would have to score

647
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:15,160
Speaker 1: too many points. They would get in this situation like

648
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:18,239
Speaker 1: they got against Oregon, must throw, must throw, and then

649
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:23,400
Speaker 1: they must lose. So they would probably start off, you know,

650
00:43:24,160 --> 00:43:28,279
Speaker 1: much like Clemton did, getting stops, you know, all of that,

651
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 1: and then the train would just just get to rolling

652
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 1: and they couldn't get it stopped. Um so I'm gonna go.

653
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 1: But they would get some stops like they I would

654
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 1: say they would hold them to three field goals probably,

655
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:50,640
Speaker 1: and three field goals and seven it's hard to hold them. No, no, no, no, no,

656
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 1: no, no no, no, not seven touch touches. I'll give him

657
00:43:53,719 --> 00:44:01,800
Speaker 1: five touchdowns, three field goals. So that's point. That's that's

658
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:03,920
Speaker 1: more than they gave up to anyone else. The Utah

659
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 1: such a it's such a unique thing because they gave

660
00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:11,800
Speaker 1: up seventy eight points in their final eight games total

661
00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 1: in the in the Pact twelve play, seventy eight points

662
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 1: in eight games after losing at USC, they gave up

663
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:20,880
Speaker 1: like an average of nine points a game. Let they

664
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,879
Speaker 1: give up seventy six or seventy five or seventy six

665
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:27,240
Speaker 1: points just in the Pact twelve championship and their bowl

666
00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 1: game alone. And obviously, if Utah's offense isn't working, it

667
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 1: affects what the defense then has to carry. And so

668
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 1: this whole thing is dependent on whether or not Utah

669
00:44:39,239 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 1: would be able to move the ball on L s U.

670
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,120
Speaker 1: I think they would be able to move the ball

671
00:44:44,840 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 1: on on L s U if they're playing their absolute best.

672
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 1: I think they could um and I think that that

673
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 1: would close that gap a little bit. But forty four

674
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:55,799
Speaker 1: points seems fair if we're talking about L s U

675
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:59,840
Speaker 1: at their absolute best. Yeah, I'm gonna go for twenty okay,

676
00:45:00,040 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 1: because they would get something with Zach Moss and just

677
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:06,440
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like they would hit hit

678
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:11,640
Speaker 1: some stuff, hit some stuff late. Yeah. Well so yeah,

679
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:16,440
Speaker 1: So with Joe Burrow through sixty touchdown passes this season,

680
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 1: if l s U was in the Pack twelve, so

681
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 1: they would go to the Pack twelve championship, but they

682
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 1: would have that one extra conference game. But you've already

683
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:28,920
Speaker 1: said they'd run through everybody, so it doesn't matter. So

684
00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:33,799
Speaker 1: they get that one extra Pack twelve game. Uh, and

685
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 1: let's keep Texas on their schedule to throw out like

686
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 1: maybe Georgia Southern or something like that. So they just

687
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:42,080
Speaker 1: have their Utah State like any other Pack twelve team

688
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:44,359
Speaker 1: always plays a Mountain West team, and they got their

689
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:49,440
Speaker 1: Northwestern states, so they got their FCS squad um. And

690
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 1: then you have them go to a national championship or

691
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:55,840
Speaker 1: College football playoff. They play fifteen games, just like they played.

692
00:45:57,080 --> 00:46:01,680
Speaker 1: Joey Burrow through through si st touchdowns this year playing

693
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 1: SEC competition. What does he do if you put him

694
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:07,200
Speaker 1: in the Pact twelve with all of the games that

695
00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:10,320
Speaker 1: you just mentioned and then in the college football playoff,

696
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:14,280
Speaker 1: does he have over sixty? No? No, he has about sixty.

697
00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 1: Same dude, you listen, listen to his touchdowns this year

698
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:25,560
Speaker 1: five four two six five three four one three five

699
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 1: three three four seven five they who who the one? Who?

700
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:35,200
Speaker 1: Who the one? Come against? Dude, they gave up like

701
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 1: and and actually with with with with that in mind,

702
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:43,960
Speaker 1: I do is somebody's always gonna play some tight games.

703
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:47,280
Speaker 1: So I actually am going to amend it. The Oregon score,

704
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go forty five second, I'm gonna I'm gonna

705
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 1: go forty five thirty there and and against in the

706
00:46:57,160 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 1: USC game would would just be a shoot out, but

707
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:03,399
Speaker 1: it wouldn't necessarily because even though that they only win

708
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:07,439
Speaker 1: by twenty two, it would be you know, like if

709
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:12,160
Speaker 1: if we don't keep keep scoring, we're gonna lose one

710
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:14,200
Speaker 1: of one of those games. Like it's not just a

711
00:47:14,280 --> 00:47:16,799
Speaker 1: pure blowout, it's one of those. Yeah, we're up by

712
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:20,160
Speaker 1: sevent team right now. However, we must keep scoring because

713
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:22,799
Speaker 1: we can't stop them either. But you have so you

714
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:27,880
Speaker 1: have the minimum points scored, the absolute bare minimum points

715
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:29,719
Speaker 1: scored for L s U. If they played a pack

716
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:33,319
Speaker 1: twelve schedule this year with their current team, you have

717
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 1: them at four. Okay, So do you realize that Oregon

718
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 1: only scored forty four plus four times. Yeah, I do that.

719
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:50,240
Speaker 1: I mean and Oregon and Oregon offense wasn't that great

720
00:47:51,880 --> 00:47:57,680
Speaker 1: Oregon Oregon only Oregon only scored forty four or more

721
00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:04,919
Speaker 1: points three different times. And that was at usc UH

722
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 1: that was UM at home against Colorado and a forty

723
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 1: five to three win, and then the seventies seven to

724
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 1: six win over Nevada. Do you realize that l s

725
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 1: U only got held under forty points under I'm sorry,

726
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 1: under forty two points twice this season? Good lord? That

727
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:27,080
Speaker 1: was against l s U when they I'm sorry. That

728
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 1: was against Mississippi State. They they only scored thirty six

729
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 1: UM and because they had a couple of players get

730
00:48:33,840 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 1: hurt in that game and then l and then they

731
00:48:36,560 --> 00:48:39,320
Speaker 1: took them out and they had and they only scored

732
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 1: twenty three versus Auburn. Every other game against Alabama, they

733
00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 1: scored forty six points against Old Miss, fifty eight against

734
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:49,840
Speaker 1: Texas A and M. They beat Texas and M fifty

735
00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 1: two seven. Oh no, no, I'm sorry. And then they

736
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 1: and then in the SEC championship game, they only scored

737
00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:00,839
Speaker 1: thirty seven points. Sorry, they thirty seven to ten. They

738
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:06,720
Speaker 1: beat Georgia. Dude, this this is a historically great team.

739
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 1: So so yes, they would have destroyed everybody in the

740
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:12,800
Speaker 1: Pack twelve, just like they destroyed everybody in the SEC.

741
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:16,600
Speaker 1: This isn't it a Pack twelve indictment. This is just

742
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:22,320
Speaker 1: a this just is what it is. Okay, alright, well,

743
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:25,319
Speaker 1: this has been fun. I'm looking forward to next week.

744
00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:28,359
Speaker 1: We're keeping the this week's show short so we can

745
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 1: just keep bringing people content in the office. But I'm

746
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:34,320
Speaker 1: looking forward to next week's show when we get into

747
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:40,280
Speaker 1: Washington State's higher of Nick Rolovich and Mike Leach moving

748
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 1: on to Mississippi State before we duck out for the week,

749
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 1: do you have any just your initial feel about the

750
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:51,359
Speaker 1: Mike Leach moving on and and the higher Washington State

751
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:55,879
Speaker 1: I think gets better for it because Rolovich is coming

752
00:49:55,920 --> 00:50:00,439
Speaker 1: from Hawaii, same type of explosive offense, except for he's

753
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 1: got more than nine plays and as effective as Mike

754
00:50:07,080 --> 00:50:11,319
Speaker 1: Leach was. I think Rollo Rolovich takes the offense to

755
00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 1: the next level, and so I like it. But but

756
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 1: before I left two, well, actually, what what's your initial

757
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:22,239
Speaker 1: thought on that? I think that Washington State went from

758
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 1: one coach who can't beat Washington to another coach who

759
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:30,640
Speaker 1: can't beat Washington. But I do like Nick Rolovich. He

760
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:33,400
Speaker 1: uh as you know, I'm a Wyoming fan, and he

761
00:50:33,560 --> 00:50:38,280
Speaker 1: stole uh an amazing recruit away from University of Wyoming

762
00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:42,399
Speaker 1: right Force signing day named day Day Hunter, who's now

763
00:50:42,719 --> 00:50:45,200
Speaker 1: out in Hawaii, you know, wondering who his next head

764
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:48,920
Speaker 1: coach is gonna be. UM. But yeah, it definitely it'll

765
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:52,520
Speaker 1: be interesting to see because I think Hawaii still stays

766
00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:56,320
Speaker 1: playing uh Pack twelve teams. I think they visit the

767
00:50:56,400 --> 00:51:01,040
Speaker 1: University of Arizona next season. On that game. Oh yeah,

768
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:02,520
Speaker 1: so then they got they got more than one. I

769
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:05,520
Speaker 1: guess they kind of have to um based on kind

770
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 1: of where they're at and where they have to travel

771
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 1: to or whatever. But uh yeah, so, I mean I

772
00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:14,040
Speaker 1: really like Nick Rolovich. I like the energy that his

773
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 1: team played with. I watched. I think you kind of

774
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 1: had to if you're a packed twelve football fan. I

775
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:22,239
Speaker 1: watched Hawaii play on multiple occasions this year. They had

776
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:27,280
Speaker 1: a quarterback Declare Early, who also got benched UM several

777
00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:30,439
Speaker 1: different times during the year, kind of just depending on,

778
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 1: you know, whether Rolovich thought that he was playing well

779
00:51:35,160 --> 00:51:38,280
Speaker 1: enough or not. So uh He's walking into a situation

780
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 1: where Washington State has like seven quarterbacks on scholarship. That

781
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 1: should be really interesting to see how he handles that situation.

782
00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 1: And as far as Mike Leach going to the SEC,

783
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 1: I mean, I hope the SEC enjoys all that is

784
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:55,520
Speaker 1: Mike Leach. I know that media members love that he's

785
00:51:55,760 --> 00:52:00,400
Speaker 1: an odd duck. Um, I get the appeal of having

786
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:05,319
Speaker 1: better athletes and a better recruiting base to draw from,

787
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, I wish him, wish him the

788
00:52:08,200 --> 00:52:11,319
Speaker 1: absolute best. If you think about it, there's not very

789
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 1: many people out there who are actually running the air raid. Um.

790
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:17,840
Speaker 1: You know, USC's dabbling in it now. Um just feels

791
00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:19,799
Speaker 1: like l s us dabbling in it a little bit now.

792
00:52:20,600 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 1: But the one school that that does it with probably

793
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:26,200
Speaker 1: the best available athletes is Oklahoma. And so I think

794
00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:28,399
Speaker 1: Mike Leach looks at Lincoln Riley and he's like, why

795
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:31,720
Speaker 1: not me? Um, they're gonna give him five million dollars

796
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:34,719
Speaker 1: a year to do it. Uh. You know, he's not

797
00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 1: somebody who I am fully appreciative of all the time,

798
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:41,560
Speaker 1: but you know, he's a good football coach. So I

799
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:43,640
Speaker 1: think that there'll be a little bit better off, but

800
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:45,319
Speaker 1: I think he'll run into a lot of the same

801
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 1: issues that he had UM at Washington State, being that

802
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:52,560
Speaker 1: you know, Mississippi State is like tent in spending on

803
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:55,919
Speaker 1: their football pro No. Twelve out of the fourteen teams

804
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 1: in the SEC. So if they're gonna up the resources

805
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 1: for him, then he might have some success. But I

806
00:53:00,560 --> 00:53:03,080
Speaker 1: don't know if I see him winning the conference or

807
00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:08,239
Speaker 1: anything like that. No, No, absolutely not. I'm trying to

808
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:11,479
Speaker 1: be diplomatic. We'll get more into it next week though. Yeah.

809
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:14,839
Speaker 1: And the the last thing before we jump out, as

810
00:53:14,880 --> 00:53:19,920
Speaker 1: I wanted to UM ask you about the PAC twelve

811
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:25,720
Speaker 1: referees in the National Championship Games because my initial thought

812
00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:30,520
Speaker 1: was they were letting so much contact go and and trying.

813
00:53:30,719 --> 00:53:32,520
Speaker 1: I thought they were trying to show off in front

814
00:53:32,560 --> 00:53:35,239
Speaker 1: of everybody. Oh see look, uh they say we call

815
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:38,520
Speaker 1: past interference soft. We're not doing that. I mean they

816
00:53:38,560 --> 00:53:40,759
Speaker 1: gave up. I mean they let them just mug people

817
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:43,319
Speaker 1: in the first half. And I was like, if they

818
00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 1: let this go in the PAC twelve, the Pact twelve

819
00:53:45,560 --> 00:53:47,799
Speaker 1: will be better off for it. And it said all

820
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 1: these ridiculous pass interference costs, and then in the second

821
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 1: half they regressed back to the meet. They missed a well,

822
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:57,480
Speaker 1: actually right before halftime or is it right after halftime?

823
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:06,080
Speaker 1: They missed uh um, the uh uh oh, the l

824
00:54:06,200 --> 00:54:08,760
Speaker 1: s U running back putting his hand down out of bounds.

825
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:12,240
Speaker 1: Then they had a bad pass an inference call, offensive

826
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:15,919
Speaker 1: pass inference call. It was just stuff. Yeah, I would

827
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 1: I would say, I'll say this Pactewell officials are not

828
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 1: very good comparatively. We know this. Um. I think that

829
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:28,360
Speaker 1: they were set up to fail. And I think considering

830
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:30,279
Speaker 1: the fact that they were set up to fail, and

831
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 1: that these are two offenses that really just like to

832
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 1: put air under the ball and and I mean with

833
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:39,759
Speaker 1: no regard for you know, who's out there on the

834
00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 1: defensive side of the ball. They're just gonna air it

835
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:45,840
Speaker 1: out and let their playmakers try to make plays. Um.

836
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 1: You know, I think that considering that that it was

837
00:54:49,239 --> 00:54:53,240
Speaker 1: going to be a super difficult situation to officiate. Anyway,

838
00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:56,120
Speaker 1: I think they started off doing a pretty good job.

839
00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:59,799
Speaker 1: I think that the hand down out of bounds is

840
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:02,880
Speaker 1: a wash when you put it with the fact that

841
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:05,160
Speaker 1: they did nail that one in complete pass that ended

842
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 1: up getting reviewed and verifying. You know, when when the

843
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 1: crew was like, oh no, he caught it, but the

844
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 1: ball had skipped up off the ground after it was

845
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:14,120
Speaker 1: tipped in the air. So I think that that was

846
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:17,120
Speaker 1: sort of a wash. And then the game ends with

847
00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:21,440
Speaker 1: the crew screwed. And this is this is not a

848
00:55:21,600 --> 00:55:25,320
Speaker 1: unanimous opinion, but I do feel like it's the popular

849
00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:29,279
Speaker 1: opinion that they absolutely screwed over Clemson at the end

850
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:32,920
Speaker 1: of that game by calling offensive pass interference on a

851
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:35,319
Speaker 1: late touchdown. UM, I don't think it would have made

852
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:37,879
Speaker 1: the difference it would they have it would have got

853
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 1: it within ten. Yeah, So that was that was complete garbage.

854
00:55:44,040 --> 00:55:47,879
Speaker 1: That call. That was one that you you it would

855
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Speaker 1: be fine with me if they if they did not

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Speaker 1: throw a flag at all. It's absolutely absurd that either

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Speaker 1: one of those players who they were locked in an

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Speaker 1: arm grip and one might have put sh off, but

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Speaker 1: the other didn't let go. The other didn't let the

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Speaker 1: push happen, so he pulled the he pulled the receiver.

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Speaker 1: And so I think that when you have two players

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Speaker 1: that are completely engaged in contact with each other, UM,

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Speaker 1: that's something that you just got to either let go

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Speaker 1: or understand that the offense is the one that's trying

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Speaker 1: to move the ball down the field. So if they're

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Speaker 1: locked up, then that means the defensive back made a

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Speaker 1: choice to be locked up, which means that that penalty

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Speaker 1: has to go against the defense. But I don't think

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Speaker 1: there should have been a penalty there at all. And

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Speaker 1: that was that was a huge mistake UM on a

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Speaker 1: national stage, and I think that people got probably a

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Speaker 1: little bit of a taste of what goes on for

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Speaker 1: us on a day in, day out basis. But my

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Speaker 1: favorite thing was that call in particular, brought out all

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Speaker 1: the Pack twelve players UM who were making comments about

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Speaker 1: the officiating. I saw that Cam Bennett, former offensive lineman

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Speaker 1: for cal Uh, he said something. Solomon Enis just tweeted,

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Speaker 1: a role wide receiver for Utah tweeted Conference of champions

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Speaker 1: Um and Uh. And you know, Benjamin Uh not only

880
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:14,359
Speaker 1: tweeted why would they let Pack twelve refs officiate this game?

881
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Speaker 1: He tweeted a video of him getting flagged for trying

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Speaker 1: to hand the ball back to the ref against U

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Speaker 1: C l A. But the ref wasn't paying attention to

884
00:57:23,600 --> 00:57:25,520
Speaker 1: the ball bounced off his stomach and he got hit

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00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 1: the personal foul. So it was it was pretty funny

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Speaker 1: to watch the players have the opportunity to kind of

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Speaker 1: roast the officials. Last night, dude, that was so bad, Like, uh,

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Speaker 1: I'm I just looked at and No Benjamin's Twitter and

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00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 1: he's tossing the ball back to the rev and then

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Speaker 1: the REV and and it's the white hat. It's not

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Speaker 1: just like one of the side judges, umpire, I mean

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Speaker 1: or the back judges. He's tossing the ball to him

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00:57:58,440 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 1: and he's like, oh yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. So I

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Speaker 1: don't know, I I That was the thing I enjoyed

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Speaker 1: most was that the players on once like five or

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Speaker 1: six players started to roast the refs. It was like, oh, well,

897
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:14,280
Speaker 1: they can't really get in trouble and everybody's doing it.

898
00:58:14,640 --> 00:58:17,439
Speaker 1: So you're just seeing all these pack twelve players sitting.

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Speaker 1: This thread is funny. Official this threat is funny because

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Speaker 1: somebody else posted a video, I mean a picture a steel.

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00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:29,280
Speaker 1: I was like, this has to be photo shop, Like,

902
00:58:29,320 --> 00:58:33,760
Speaker 1: this has to be photo shop. It's three guys standing

903
00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:39,480
Speaker 1: and they're and they're pointing two different direct I was like,

904
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Speaker 1: that's gotta be photoshop, right. I don't know, I I

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Speaker 1: if you. There's there's so many accounts out there just

906
00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:50,480
Speaker 1: to Pack twelve accounts that, um, that always have fresh

907
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Speaker 1: material about the refs every single time something like this happens.

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Speaker 1: But that that was fun because most of my time

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00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:59,200
Speaker 1: lane is Packed twelve related, So when that happened, it

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Speaker 1: was just like a giant Pack twelve party on the

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00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 1: sideline of like, hey, we are actually part of the

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Speaker 1: college exactly. And so I mean it was the wrong call,

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Speaker 1: but I think I do think that I'm with you

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Speaker 1: in that up to a certain point, they were doing

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Speaker 1: a good job. And I would even give them more

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Speaker 1: credit than just doing a good job, because I just

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Speaker 1: think that this these two teams together, you were just

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Speaker 1: gonna have a bunch of fifty fifty stuff. You were

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Speaker 1: gonna have a bunch of judgment calls. And I and

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Speaker 1: and I just didn't think that this was the right

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Speaker 1: crew to be put in that position. Um, but you know,

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Speaker 1: I they did. They did okay up to a point.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it it definitely affected the outcome. I

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Speaker 1: don't think it affected the eventual like results, if that

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Speaker 1: makes sense. Thank you guys again for listening to the

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Speaker 1: Pack twelve apostles. Man, We appreciate your time, appreciate your energy.

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Speaker 1: Had some technical difficulties today, had to cut the podcast

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Speaker 1: a little bit short, but we will be back next week.

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Speaker 1: Podcast will drop on Monday night early Tuesday morning. Be

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Speaker 1: there or be square. Make sure you gotta share the feed.

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Speaker 1: Tell a friend about to pack. To all Apostles, peace out,