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Speaker 1: Hi am Kate Hudson, and my name is Oliver Hudson.

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Speaker 2: We wanted to do something that highlighted our.

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Speaker 1: Relationships and what it's like to be siblings. We are

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Speaker 1: a sibling, Rayvalry.

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Speaker 3: No, no, sibling. You don't do that with your mouth, Revelry.

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Speaker 4: That's good.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to part two of Governor Gavin Newsom and

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Speaker 1: his wonderful sister, Hillary Newsom.

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Speaker 5: I wonder like, if you remember Hillary anytimes where you

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Speaker 5: like specifically had to have like a little tough love

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Speaker 5: with Gavin, he would, oh yeah.

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Speaker 6: I think some of those conversations that we talked about

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Speaker 6: earlier when he was younger and newly and Paula tics

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Speaker 6: and finding his personal way. We also, you know, lost

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Speaker 6: our mom in a really traumatic, you know, heartbreaking way,

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Speaker 6: and instead of engaging, he retreated and that was really devastating.

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Speaker 6: And I had to be the bigger person to you know,

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Speaker 6: slap them around a little and say come back to me,

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Speaker 6: come back to her. So there's definitely been a lot

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Speaker 6: of that exchange, but there's just been nothing but respect

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Speaker 6: and having each other's back.

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Speaker 4: You know, my brother's writing a book. If I'm allowed

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Speaker 4: to say.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, no, I mean which about that.

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Speaker 6: I know, politician a book and it's not about politics,

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Speaker 6: but it was kind of triggering for me because I

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Speaker 6: realized like there, you know, and I was triggering for

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Speaker 6: me because I was like, wait, this is my book

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Speaker 6: too on some level, because there's so much overlap because

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Speaker 6: we were you know, Gavin and Hillary, like we didn't

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Speaker 6: have other siblings.

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Speaker 7: So just to your point, I mean, I talk about

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Speaker 7: all the big scrups, I talk about how I handle

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Speaker 7: them badly or well, talk about our history. Even even

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Speaker 7: I had forgotten my name because my dad's a William.

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Speaker 7: There's like a bunch of Bill Newsom's like forever and ever,

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Speaker 7: and I was named after some guy named Gavin Maxwell

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Speaker 7: who wrote a book about river otters and and and

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Speaker 7: of course it made sense because we had a river

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Speaker 7: that was our first pet was an otter. Wow, people

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Speaker 2: Weird, big environmentalist of fabulous.

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Speaker 7: He's big in a mound lines like everything about him

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Speaker 7: was environmental advocacy, which is a big part of all

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Speaker 7: my life, not surprisingly, but anyway, so yeah, this sort

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Speaker 7: of book kind of it just you know, it explains

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Speaker 7: and I love in the process. I mean, you guys

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Speaker 7: have anything. Time you write and sort of reflect, it

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Speaker 7: it was for her was traumatizing.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, because it feels like I'm writing a book, but

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Speaker 6: I don't want to write a book telling stories.

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Speaker 7: She's like, what, that's new one's business. But it needs

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Speaker 1: You know, how do you think your trauma with your mother,

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Speaker 1: her and just within your life has informed sort of

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Speaker 7: It was, uh? And and you know, we it's in

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Speaker 7: the book.

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Speaker 1: It's in the books.

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Speaker 7: We talked about in Oban. Hillary and I we were

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Speaker 7: back before began it with you, before it was legal.

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Speaker 7: And and I had the privilege of being governor when

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Speaker 2: I wasn't I Actually he might not remember, but I

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Speaker 6: I left the room because I had been with my

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Speaker 8: And that was it.

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Speaker 4: That was I was done. I was done.

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Speaker 6: And my mom looked at the doctor and said, how

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Speaker 4: It was horrible, but you skate and I kept saying leave,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, oh my gosh.

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Speaker 7: But those moments shaped, you know, she we were brief

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Speaker 7: sod all these things. You didn't even realize until you

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Speaker 7: special Olympics. I was like, I forgot mom was a

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Speaker 7: and so all of that connects or she you know,

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Speaker 7: or she struggled. I mean she like struggle like you

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Speaker 7: took paycheck to paycheck. I mean that was our life,

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Speaker 7: like literally our life and hard work and grit and

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Speaker 7: having to work at janitorial jobs and I mean everything

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Speaker 7: we ever had we had to work for. But that

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Speaker 6: And then I you know, similarly, as he's following one path.

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Speaker 6: You know, my husband Jeff and I did similarly. We

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Speaker 6: who's a breast cancer survivor. But that was so we

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Speaker 6: And you know, I think I'm really proud of how

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Speaker 4: Just be good citizens.

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, So two years left, right, Governor two years.

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Speaker 7: Well they the last recall attempt failed, so it looks

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Speaker 7: like potentially too So thank you because I wasn't sure

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Speaker 7: they were going to try again. I'm just saying, so.

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Speaker 5: What do you want to achieve in these next two years?

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Speaker 8: What is your what is your biggest focus?

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Speaker 7: I call it the Great Implementation. It's about now delivering

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Speaker 7: you know we're in the biggest I mean, the obvious,

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Speaker 7: I want to see accountability. I want to drive accountability.

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Speaker 7: State's vision has realized locally. As a former mayor, it's

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Speaker 7: the streets and sidewalks in the state. Has provided unprecedented resources.

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Speaker 7: Now I want to see results. We're going to drive

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Speaker 7: some get up to fifteen hundred dollars every single kindergartener

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Speaker 7: Maintain our dominance in innovation and quantum and immunology and

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Speaker 7: just soberly, yeah, Trump, what's that going to factor in?

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Speaker 7: And how do I protect our diverse communities? How do

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Speaker 7: twenty seven percent of our populations for and born. How

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Speaker 5: I wonder how you reach reach that just because you know,

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Speaker 7: And that includes lots and lots of Republicans. We were

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Speaker 7: I care about people. I don't care who you voted for.

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Speaker 7: And uh and uh. And we've got a lot of

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Speaker 2: And I'm just gonna make really good wines exactly.

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Speaker 8: I'm looking. I'm hoping. I got a little Christmas gift.

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Speaker 2: I got, you're back.

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Speaker 1: I have, I have, I have one. Politically, I have

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Speaker 1: one law question because again I am so not political.

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Speaker 1: I just it bothers me. The hypocrisy, the hypocrisy of

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Speaker 5: Well, let me just address the reason why this is.

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Speaker 5: We grew up very like our our whole big family

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Speaker 5: is very political, politically all over the place.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I just feel like everyone's full of ship.

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Speaker 7: That was the law in a few districts the state.

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Speaker 7: And that's the point, And This is why I was

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Speaker 5: And so you think identity okay, well, well yeah, we

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Speaker 7: I mean for me. Look, I heard Obama right after

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Speaker 7: That said, I look, I'm not naive. You know, I've

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Speaker 1: Have you ever had a panic attack? Or do you

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Speaker 8: Do I? No? No? You know what he does.

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Speaker 6: He's big into exercise, so I think that's what he

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Speaker 8: Are you? Are you as crazy as we are?

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Speaker 1: We're so crazy crazy.

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Speaker 5: Okay, let's do let's do a quick rapid fire and

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Speaker 4: Way more competitive, way not even wait.

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Speaker 8: What are your astrological signs Capricorn.

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Speaker 7: You obvious? What do you think he knows it?

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Speaker 8: Who got in more trouble as kids?

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Speaker 4: Absolutely? Absolutely?

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Speaker 4: And yeah, he came out.

438
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Speaker 6: And played basketball in the backyard with all his buddies

439
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Speaker 6: every night. I had a best friend who you know,

440
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Speaker 6: whose mom was never around. So the trouble my mom

441
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Speaker 6: never knew about.

442
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Speaker 7: And uh, you know, after I became governor, we commuted

443
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Speaker 7: her six yearsmore.

444
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Speaker 5: Which parents like, It's like in our family sometimes we're like, Okay,

445
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Speaker 5: who who are the kids most like? In terms of

446
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Speaker 5: the parents, Like who and your parents of your mom

447
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Speaker 5: or dad?

448
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Speaker 8: Are you most like this?

449
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Speaker 6: Is such a long story that we don't have time for.

450
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Speaker 6: But my brother was told by my mom our whole childhood,

451
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Speaker 6: Gavin's just like me, Hillary's just like Bill.

452
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Speaker 4: And my father is.

453
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Speaker 6: A gregarious, intelligent, intellectual, beloved man. So I think my

454
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Speaker 6: and my mom would say, I'm shy and have no friends.

455
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Speaker 6: So and he had dyslex Yes, we had a lot

456
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Speaker 6: of stuff.

457
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:05,720
Speaker 7: I was Legitimately I'm still.

458
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Speaker 4: A shy guy, which which is ironic.

459
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Speaker 6: But the interesting thing is he heard that and said

460
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Speaker 6: I'm not going to own that, and he really didn't.

461
00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:17,679
Speaker 6: And now he's the orator and the intellect and you know,

462
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Speaker 6: and it's really fascinating how he I watched him hear her,

463
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Speaker 6: and I could tell that he was feeling like, no,

464
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Speaker 6: don't don't label me.

465
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Speaker 4: So anyhow, who is who?

466
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Speaker 1: What about your first celebrity crush when you were little?

467
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Speaker 7: Oh?

468
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Speaker 1: Who's Yeah?

469
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Speaker 2: Who had to be one of the Hardy Boys?

470
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Speaker 1: They're fake?

471
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Speaker 4: No, not the Hardy Boys.

472
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Speaker 6: But who are the guys that the TV show that

473
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Speaker 6: looked like the Hardy Boys? Jesus, I make it back

474
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Speaker 6: to you, Mark Hamlin or something.

475
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Speaker 1: I don't know, I know.

476
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Speaker 7: You love you love that guy with the you.

477
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Speaker 1: Know, oh Sean jack.

478
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Speaker 8: Good one say anything, say anything?

479
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Speaker 4: Oh my god, Look I'm sorry you met him. You

480
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Speaker 4: didn't know I.

481
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Speaker 1: Spent them with elon to anything.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that's a that's.

483
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Speaker 4: A I get a stalker.

484
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Speaker 1: Get any going against Gavin's is probably like Rebecca Morne,

485
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Speaker 1: what's from the Brunette from Phobe Kate's.

486
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Speaker 7: No Man No That from Charlie's Angels back in the

487
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Speaker 7: Day Kate Show, Jacqueline Smith know the other one?

488
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Speaker 4: Kate Capture keep the other one?

489
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Speaker 7: H three?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was.

491
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Speaker 2: He was going to say, he was going to say,

492
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Speaker 2: and I couldn't easily, said Kurt Russell. But I thought

493
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Speaker 2: that would make you love super uncomfortable.

494
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Speaker 8: Very what what is what's her? The third? The third Angel?

495
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Speaker 4: Keith Smith?

496
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Speaker 1: It's something what's no respect for?

497
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Speaker 3: I don't.

498
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Ky Jackson, I.

499
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Speaker 7: Didn't even have to pay the podcast.

500
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Speaker 8: I was about to I was about to go in,

501
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Speaker 8: Kate Jackson.

502
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Speaker 1: Kate asked the final ask, the final question.

503
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Speaker 8: The final question is this is for both of you,

504
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Speaker 8: two parter.

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Speaker 5: What is the one thing that you admire the most

506
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Speaker 5: about your sibling that would be something that you would

507
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Speaker 5: love to emulate that you had more of And then

508
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Speaker 5: the other part of that question is what is the

509
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Speaker 5: thing that you wish you could alleviate so that they

510
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Speaker 5: could have a calmer sense of self or you would

511
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Speaker 5: think would be more optimal for them.

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Speaker 7: Well, I'll quickly take that. I think Hillary implied it.

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Speaker 7: I mean, she's she's taken up the vast majority of

514
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Speaker 7: the of the burden of our parents, both passing and

515
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Speaker 7: the impact that's had on our kids and just our

516
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Speaker 7: lives generally, and and just from just even the technical

517
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Speaker 7: logistics associated, but also the emotional side of it, and

518
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Speaker 7: being there for both our parents in an emotional way

519
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Speaker 7: and a consistent way throughout their struggles and ultimately.

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Speaker 1: Their lives.

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Speaker 7: And so that that I always admired. And that's also

522
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Speaker 7: what I admire most about Hillary is there's a deep

523
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Speaker 7: empathy and care and compassion and a commitment to other people.

524
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Speaker 7: She wasn't when she says that. I know, I was thinking,

525
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Speaker 7: people just roll their eyes. Oh yeah, I care. Our

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Speaker 7: most important I said, is our people when Hillary said

527
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Speaker 7: that about the company. But it's like no bullshit with her,

528
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Speaker 7: It's like her obsession and but it's like our friends

529
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Speaker 7: and her family. Even when she's got a lousy brother

530
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Speaker 7: that's just too focused on his election or something. She

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Speaker 7: still gives damn. And when you screw up, she's like,

532
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Speaker 7: you fuck an asshole. You get your shit together out

533
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Speaker 7: of your back. And or when you think everything's gone great,

534
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Speaker 7: she goes, you ain't all that you. Uh, I saw

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Speaker 7: a little piece of shit that's good.

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Speaker 1: Put you in check. Yeah, so you know. So I

537
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Speaker 1: think you know.

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Speaker 7: Both those are you know, different size of the same coin.

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Speaker 4: I think I think it's a wrap.

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Speaker 6: I would say that if I what I would like

541
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Speaker 6: to lessen the burden is the hate. It just it

542
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:39,760
Speaker 6: breaks my heart the hate because I know and everybody.

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Speaker 6: It's so interesting because we I have a several Republican

544
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Speaker 6: friends that said, if Gavin's anything like you, then I'm

545
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Speaker 6: gonna like him. And I just want people to know

546
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 6: him because to know him is to respect him and

547
00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 6: to like him, whether you like his politics or not.

548
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:54,639
Speaker 6: And so that's really been something that it breaks my

549
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,320
Speaker 6: heart for him, for his kids, for his wife, and

550
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Speaker 6: just knowing that he knowing who he is is authentically

551
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Speaker 6: and where he comes from, and that breaks my heart

552
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 6: that the world can't be a kinder, gentler place. And

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Speaker 6: I feel like there's a you know, a few years

554
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Speaker 6: ago we unleashed a lot of hate, and I wish

555
00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 6: we could put everything back in a little box.

556
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Speaker 4: But that I would take away from him if I could.

557
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Speaker 2: And what I admire most about him is his work ethic.

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Speaker 4: You know, you asked who is more competitive.

559
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Speaker 6: I told you that I only take away the seventh

560
00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 6: place ribbons, so as you can imagine, the competition's not

561
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Speaker 6: my jam.

562
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Speaker 4: And I do like you, Oliver.

563
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Speaker 6: I really like to be loved authentically, and I try

564
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Speaker 6: really hard to be such a good person in order

565
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Speaker 6: to achieve that.

566
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Speaker 4: But for me, Gavin's relentless.

567
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Speaker 8: He is studious, he is he does not take shortcuts,

568
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Speaker 8: and that's.

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Speaker 6: Really really hard, and that's exhausting, and that's a humongous sacrifice.

570
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Speaker 6: And I am not always willing to make the sacrifice

571
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Speaker 6: in the same way he does. And I'm so proud

572
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Speaker 6: of him for that. And that's I think My parents

573
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 6: weren't that way. They were real incredible people and m

574
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Speaker 6: passed and philanthropists, et cetera. But and my mom worked

575
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Speaker 6: hard because she had to. He does it because he

576
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,280
Speaker 6: wants to and to make a difference, and that I

577
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:14,800
Speaker 6: admire the most. About him and his evolution as a

578
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Speaker 6: father that I didn't see coming.

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Speaker 1: Oh great, that's awesome, that's amazing. I mean, that's my

580
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:24,480
Speaker 1: number one priority. It's it's so true. It's like intention

581
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 1: matters so much. I mean, not in politics anymore, because

582
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Speaker 1: if you don't, if you don't go one way and

583
00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 1: you're not part of that crew, you're fucking hated now,

584
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,520
Speaker 1: which is so intense. You know, it's like the intentions

585
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 1: are to make everything great or to do to do

586
00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 1: the best for the people. That's the intention. Now, if

587
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 1: you don't agree with the way that I'm doing, okay,

588
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 1: that's that's okay, I don't agree with it. But now

589
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 1: it's like fuck you. I mean, it's it's it's just crazy.

590
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 1: I mean it's Kate. Kate is just like fuck you

591
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 1: all the time.

592
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 5: It's you know, diplomacy goes a long way, and like,

593
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 5: you know, there's something that yeah, I guess we do

594
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:09,840
Speaker 5: miss that sort of healthy debate.

595
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 8: We grew up.

596
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Speaker 5: Kurt loved to do healthy debates, and so he would

597
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 5: give us a side even if we didn't agree nice

598
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Speaker 5: and he'd say, okay, you're you know, this is.

599
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Speaker 8: Who you're going to be today. Kate and you know, Boston,

600
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Speaker 8: this is who you're going to be.

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Speaker 5: And then we'd have these big debates even if we

602
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:35,360
Speaker 5: didn't agree, just to understand what it is to like

603
00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 5: actually be able to debate something and talk about it

604
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Speaker 5: and then still love each other.

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Speaker 1: Well we've gone. We've gone completely. We've gone completely away

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Speaker 1: from what this whole experiment was supposed to be, which

607
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Speaker 1: is two parties, different ideas coming together for a solution,

608
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Speaker 1: you know, where you can debate and scream at each other.

609
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 1: And then Adams and Jefferson, you know our homies. You know,

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Speaker 1: they'll go have cocktails if they had cocktails back then,

611
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:05,120
Speaker 1: but they'd need they went had meed, you know. Or

612
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 1: in Washington they debate in the aisles and yelled each

613
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 1: other and go have whiskeys. And there was a there

614
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:11,640
Speaker 1: was a moment, and it just seems to be gone.

615
00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 1: It feels like it's never going to come back. It's

616
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:17,840
Speaker 1: what it feels like anyway. But forget about this for

617
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 1: a second. I want to real quick. Then we're out

618
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Speaker 1: your podcast with fucking Marshawn Lynch, who I'm a huge

619
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Speaker 1: football fan. Beast a beast mode, I mean, give us

620
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Speaker 1: a give us a give us a thing on politics.

621
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Speaker 7: A natural pairing, you know, yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean governor, how do you know?

623
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Speaker 7: Marsh On obviously even asked that's he's an old but

624
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 7: so our our our co anchor or so to speak

625
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 7: on the podcast. This guy Doug Hendrickson is one of

626
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 7: my oldest friends. And Doug's been his agent forever. And

627
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:55,320
Speaker 7: so I've been, you know, steeped in all things NFL,

628
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 7: it seems for twenty years, and uh been spending a

629
00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:02,400
Speaker 7: lot of time uh in in in NFL camps and

630
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 7: getting to know a lot of players. And one of

631
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 7: those special guys was Marshawn and started as as supervisor

632
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 7: and mayor, working with him on his foundation in Oakland.

633
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,560
Speaker 7: I'm like, damn, this guy's the real deal and you know,

634
00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 7: a bunch of inner city kids and always having their back,

635
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 7: and he was surprised I kept coming back as mayor

636
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Speaker 7: and I wasn't just some dude in a suit, you know,

637
00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 7: and just you know, because he's not a trustworthy guy.

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00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 4: Necessary he doesn't have trust yeah exactly.

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00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 7: Man, when he you know, and then he's like, no

640
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 7: one will have your back, like he'll have your back

641
00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 7: when you break through. And so we were bsing about

642
00:32:38,400 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 7: everything and everything you just said, Man, where we want

643
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:42,920
Speaker 7: to put a crowbar in the spokes the wheel of

644
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:46,240
Speaker 7: everybody else? Everyone's pissed off zero some game. I'll get

645
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 7: mine scarcity mindset. And we're like, man, enough of this,

646
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 7: and can we talk We can we not talk about politics,

647
00:32:54,800 --> 00:32:58,200
Speaker 7: but can we politic? And he can we just like bullshit?

648
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 7: And can we have conversations that everybody else is happening

649
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:05,200
Speaker 7: but not through such a sort of extreme ideological legs

650
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 7: and and just sort of see where it goes. And

651
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 7: so we've been having fun man, and just crazy different

652
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 7: weird guests and traditional guests and and it's your guess

653
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 7: is as good as mine where the hell it's going

654
00:33:17,320 --> 00:33:18,959
Speaker 7: to go? But politicans been a lot.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm throwing my hat in the ring. I want

656
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Speaker 1: to come on. I want to meet you, to know

657
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 1: your damn fans. So you can ask me anything too.

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Speaker 1: I'll say, I'll tell secrets about my entire family.

659
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Speaker 7: So you're going to bring all those photos.

660
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Speaker 4: Man, we talked about, we don't want you spending Christmas.

661
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Speaker 8: You don't know, he won't I'll be I'll be the one.

662
00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:43,560
Speaker 8: I will do all the bad things and somehow I

663
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Speaker 8: won't be invited.

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Speaker 1: That's right, that's true.

665
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Speaker 4: We need to unpack that.

666
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:50,680
Speaker 1: Next time.

667
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Speaker 8: Well, I thank you so much. It's being honor Governor Hillary.

668
00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 1: Thinking, Hey guys, it's been awesome. Yeah, and get my

669
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Speaker 1: number if you want advice or if you need direction.

670
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Speaker 7: I know you're you're you're you're lining up to be

671
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:11,279
Speaker 7: the forty what number of forty you're like, whatever, be

672
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Speaker 7: the forty first governor.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean if you if you wake up and

674
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:16,440
Speaker 1: then nine, you're like, oh, ship, what do I do

675
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 1: about this? You know there's a homeless whatever, just call me,

676
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 1: you figure it out, you figure out.

677
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:28,839
Speaker 2: He calls me first, but he'll call you now.

678
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:31,279
Speaker 4: Figure problem sol.

679
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 7: Yeah, been solving every problem. Yeah, thank you.

680
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 1: That was awesome, so fun.

681
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 8: I think we should do more political conversations. I love it.

682
00:34:58,239 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 1: I want to do like a part ten. I mean,

683
00:35:00,040 --> 00:35:02,000
Speaker 1: there's so much I want to do.

684
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 8: I want it. This makes me want to do so

685
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:05,880
Speaker 8: many different people.

686
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 5: Oh my god, I mean I want you know what

687
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 5: I kept thinking when I was listening, I remember watching

688
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 5: Gavin I'm terrible Governor, Governor Knewsom. I know, but I

689
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:19,880
Speaker 5: feel weird saying Gavin's every time I say, I'm like

690
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:22,000
Speaker 5: Kevin Gavin governor.

691
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Speaker 1: Dude, I'm like, what's up the opposite?

692
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 8: No, No, here's my thing. I I feel like it's.

693
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Speaker 5: We're actually kind of perfect people to talk about politics

694
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 5: because we don't.

695
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:55,240
Speaker 8: We were not really very like political politically.

696
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,160
Speaker 5: I mean, look, we have our points of view, obviously,

697
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,759
Speaker 5: like everybody who cares a about your community, you know,

698
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,320
Speaker 5: we have own personal points of view. But to actually

699
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:10,640
Speaker 5: speak to someone, you know, with especially with a sibling,

700
00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:14,520
Speaker 5: which is very interesting. Yeah, you see a different dynamic

701
00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 5: with them when they're when they're with their sibling.

702
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:21,000
Speaker 1: She's amazing. You can almost tell that, like she is

703
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:24,800
Speaker 1: sort of the roots. There's a foundation to her that

704
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:30,239
Speaker 1: you know, keeps him accountable in a strange way, or

705
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 1: she shepherded him in a strength, you know what I mean, like.

706
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:35,000
Speaker 8: Women.

707
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:38,160
Speaker 1: She's strong. She's strong. You can tell us she's strong.

708
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,600
Speaker 1: To be friends with them so so fun.

709
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:46,480
Speaker 5: So I feel like the point of politicians is we

710
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 5: probably would want to be friends with all of them. Yes,

711
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 5: they wouldn't get into politics.

712
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 1: And it was probably a great fucking time. Donald Trump,

713
00:36:56,520 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 1: I'm sure Trump is. We have so much fun, you know,

714
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 1: forget about his politics and forget about like whatever. Like

715
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 1: if we were like, you know, hanging out, probably fun.

716
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 8: I mean I look I kind of like everybody, you know,

717
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 8: so I can have fun anywhere.

718
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, me too, I can too.

719
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 8: Yeah.

720
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:19,520
Speaker 5: It wasn't that like the the the UFC had to

721
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 5: blast of course, you know, I said energy because I

722
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 5: was like, I wasn't I It was a lot of.

723
00:37:26,600 --> 00:37:27,919
Speaker 1: Fun, a lot of people there.

724
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 8: I love UFC.

725
00:37:29,920 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 7: I was.

726
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:34,799
Speaker 8: I saw them across the way. I'm like, they look

727
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 8: like they're having a great human beings, like, you know,

728
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:40,719
Speaker 8: I don't know, well wait, wait, I want to hold on.

729
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,400
Speaker 5: I want to say something. But I didn't ask him,

730
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 5: which was really interesting. I remember watching remember when you know,

731
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 5: this was before we didn't know what was going to

732
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 5: happen with Biden, but Governor knew some It sort of

733
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,439
Speaker 5: looked like he was kicking off to be what would

734
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 5: have been the next candidate Democrats at Canada. And he

735
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:09,320
Speaker 5: did a debate on Hannity with uh Governor dissent, and

736
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:12,800
Speaker 5: I forgot to ask. I remember watching it and thinking,

737
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:17,959
Speaker 5: I think Sean Hannity really likes Governor like I felt

738
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:20,439
Speaker 5: like because he was talking about, you know, a crop

739
00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:23,600
Speaker 5: by you know, but you sort of bipartisan, you know,

740
00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,600
Speaker 5: being able to move across the aisle and really get

741
00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:32,359
Speaker 5: things done. And I remember watching Sean Hannity with him,

742
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 5: and I felt like they actually had a really nice rapport.

743
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:38,840
Speaker 5: I was like, I bet they're friends, and I wanted

744
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 5: to ask him question and I because I do think

745
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:48,360
Speaker 5: there is there are some people who are able to

746
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,400
Speaker 5: do that where it's not like it doesn't have to

747
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:57,000
Speaker 5: turn into some big, kind of heated, polarizing hat that

748
00:38:57,080 --> 00:39:00,440
Speaker 5: they actually can have healthy debate.

749
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 8: Yeah, and and that I felt like those well, you know,

750
00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:07,280
Speaker 8: I mean that debate was really interesting.

751
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I didn't watch it. Yeah, yeah, I mean,

752
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 1: you know, whatever side you're on, it doesn't matter. Whoever

753
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:16,719
Speaker 1: won the debate doesn't matter. But when you look at

754
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 1: like the vice presidential debate this year with Vance and Waltz,

755
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 1: it was like a cordial debate. They let each other

756
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 1: speak and they kind of praised each other on certain things,

757
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:33,480
Speaker 1: and you know, I don't care where you stand on

758
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 1: the spectrum, Apoe.

759
00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 8: It was nice to watch.

760
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was like, oh, this is so so nice.

761
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:43,719
Speaker 8: But then but then everyone was like, our ratings are down.

762
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:50,960
Speaker 1: You're not wrong I mean yeah, yeah, no, I mean

763
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:55,000
Speaker 1: they're great. You can see. That's the love and the

764
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 1: history and the depth of their relationship between the two

765
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 1: of them. Number one, and then again politics aside, like

766
00:40:03,760 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 1: he's a great guy and it feels like, you know,

767
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 1: a politician is a politician, right, but it does feel

768
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:13,120
Speaker 1: like that he does actually fucking care and he's putting

769
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:15,400
Speaker 1: his ship out there. And whether you like it or not,

770
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 1: you know, okay, that's your opinion. But don't hate.

771
00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:23,360
Speaker 8: Can I see hate? You know what I yeah, the

772
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 8: hate thing is is California. No. But but look, our

773
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 8: brains are predisposed to be go negative. We have negative bias.

774
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:35,840
Speaker 8: That's what. It's what we're you know that we have

775
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 8: to fight that, you know.

776
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,840
Speaker 5: But but but but but maybe you know, I know,

777
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 5: like there's like the Rogans, who you know, have certain

778
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,520
Speaker 5: people on and then call her daddy as calmlin.

779
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:48,880
Speaker 8: What if we do interview everybody?

780
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:50,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to do that.

781
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 5: I want to get Pucker Carlson on here. Yeah, come on,

782
00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:59,040
Speaker 5: I want to like, I want to like talk to everybody.

783
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:04,880
Speaker 1: You talk to Brett Brett Bear, He'll definitely I'd love

784
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:08,640
Speaker 1: to talk to Tucker because Tucker's probably fun as ship.

785
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,360
Speaker 1: I mean, is he does is he insane sometimes? And

786
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:15,120
Speaker 1: the things that he says in my opinion? Yeah, you know,

787
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 1: but does he sometimes say it because it's it's good ratings?

788
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 1: I don't know.

789
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,480
Speaker 5: I don't even want to have a public opinion. I

790
00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:25,799
Speaker 5: just want to have I just want to ask questions. Yeah,

791
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:28,760
Speaker 5: you know, who cares about my opinion?

792
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 8: I just want to.

793
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:31,800
Speaker 1: I just want to know gives a shit about what

794
00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:35,160
Speaker 1: we think? Honestly, I want to know what they.

795
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:35,800
Speaker 8: Think, you know.

796
00:41:36,040 --> 00:41:38,320
Speaker 5: I don't even want to sway anything, you know, I

797
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:40,440
Speaker 5: just want to I just want I just want to

798
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 5: ask the questions that it seems everybody's asking, you know,

799
00:41:46,040 --> 00:41:48,160
Speaker 5: like we should get you on moscot here.

800
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, I'll talk to I'll do I'll talk to anyone.

801
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:58,439
Speaker 8: Like AOC AOC. She seems to be a big people

802
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:03,320
Speaker 8: are talking about her maybe being the next Democratic candidate.

803
00:42:03,719 --> 00:42:06,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're like a or a political show. You know,

804
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:09,359
Speaker 1: I should call it, we should call it politicking.

805
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:17,239
Speaker 8: Anyway, that was fun.

806
00:42:17,400 --> 00:42:20,319
Speaker 1: That was a blast, and I love you to talk

807
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:21,560
Speaker 1: fun hanging with you.

808
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 8: I know I'm done with my movie.

809
00:42:24,920 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 1: I know it's good.

810
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 8: I'm finished. I'm sad, but I'm back now.

811
00:42:29,719 --> 00:42:30,720
Speaker 1: It's Christmas time.

812
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 8: All right. I love you. You know we need it.

813
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:35,960
Speaker 5: We need to get on and do a solo podcast

814
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 5: of just talking about how we're prepping for should Why.

815
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 1: Don't we do a Christmas prep No?

816
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 8: I know.

817
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 1: I mean even on our thread, I was like, yeah,

818
00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:51,160
Speaker 1: I can't wait for the fight. I was like, it's

819
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:53,760
Speaker 1: gonna be so fun that we've never had more family

820
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 1: together at one time.

821
00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:58,319
Speaker 8: And I'm like, oh my god, really, guys, like we're

822
00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:00,400
Speaker 8: gonna break up this christ I know.

823
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:04,840
Speaker 1: Oh gosh, I don't know what I told Danny.

824
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,840
Speaker 8: I told Danny we're going in like this every morning.

825
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:11,919
Speaker 8: The mantra is we're going to have the best day.

826
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:13,600
Speaker 8: We're gonna have so much fun.

827
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:18,359
Speaker 5: We're not responsible for anybody but our kids, and there's

828
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 5: going to be a million questions and we might not

829
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:21,080
Speaker 5: have all the answers.

830
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:24,600
Speaker 1: Or what if you did it reversed? What if you

831
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:26,839
Speaker 1: wake up in the morning and just get it all out,

832
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 1: like I fucking hate you, you didn't pick up the

833
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 1: fucking kid, and then it's like, okay, your turn, and

834
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:35,879
Speaker 1: then you and then it's like all right, we're done.

835
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:36,839
Speaker 1: It's eight am.

836
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:38,920
Speaker 8: And we did it. The rest of the days can

837
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 8: becase I'm not so sure it would story a minute

838
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:47,160
Speaker 8: that's like that would it be a half half.

839
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 1: Day to half day?

840
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:51,760
Speaker 8: Everyone, we're gating Danny.

841
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 1: They're still getting it out. It's supposed to be a

842
00:43:54,200 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 1: ten minute fa.

843
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 5: Oh, it's funny, that's that's or you know, And I

844
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:06,240
Speaker 5: did Mom and I have complaining lunches.

845
00:44:06,320 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 8: Did they ever tell you this?

846
00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 5: No, we go to lunch and I'm like, Mom, here's

847
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 5: what we're gonna do. We're gonna have a complaining lunch,

848
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,840
Speaker 5: and we're just going to complain the whole time. And

849
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 5: and so what happens is is we start out and

850
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 5: like ten minutes.

851
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 8: In it's over.

852
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:23,000
Speaker 1: That's a clap idea. I love that.

853
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 8: Yeah, I get it's like especially with like you know,

854
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:30,759
Speaker 8: you know, like let's just complain. That's actually no going

855
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:31,160
Speaker 8: in with it.

856
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 1: You know we should all, you know, it'd be good.

857
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 1: You know, like the like the warming hut down you

858
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 1: know by the pond down there, right, you have to

859
00:44:39,719 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 1: you actually have to walk outside. You cannot fight unless

860
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 1: you've got the fight shed, Like you have to go

861
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 1: in there to fight. So if there's any even raised

862
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:51,280
Speaker 1: voices in the house. It's like, sorry, pop, mom or whoever.

863
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:53,600
Speaker 1: Like fight you're going to the fight shed like you

864
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:54,560
Speaker 1: We're not doing it in here.

865
00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:58,080
Speaker 8: But it is so funny.

866
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,879
Speaker 1: I lot of fight shed and we'll put like little

867
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 1: alcohols and whiskeys in like a do it like a fire.

868
00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 8: That's nice, well, like it really cozy.

869
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:10,520
Speaker 5: Really they get in there like this, Well, our parents

870
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:12,319
Speaker 5: aren't going to listen to this, but you know there

871
00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 5: is going to.

872
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 1: Be a new Yeah, excited about that.

873
00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:20,880
Speaker 5: This is going to be I mean maybe we'll bleep

874
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 5: that out so that you picked up.

875
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's probably a good idea. I love you.

876
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:29,800
Speaker 1: I love you, b