WEBVTT - Ep. 33 — Blavity.com founder Morgan DeBaun and EmpowerHER

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<v Speaker 1>Wake me up before you go go. I bet y'all

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<v Speaker 1>weren't expecting.

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<v Speaker 2>I was asking for it. I was like, ready to

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<v Speaker 2>go go.

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<v Speaker 1>I know that is totally Mandy's fault. Before we started recording,

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<v Speaker 1>she said are you ready to go? Go? And I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, oh snap, she started something. Now, Hey, ba,

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you guys are listening and enjoying. We're back,

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<v Speaker 1>like that's where we all have. I used to be

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<v Speaker 1>like so into like in high school, I was so

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<v Speaker 1>into Garth Brooks, Like he's like a country music star.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like the one country music star that like black

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<v Speaker 2>people can love. I feel like Garth Brooks is universal,

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<v Speaker 2>is he?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but I just really like Garth because

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<v Speaker 1>my sister liked it and I was just like totally

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<v Speaker 1>into Garth Brooks and I was like, yeah, that.

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<v Speaker 2>Was done things.

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<v Speaker 1>This weather is gorgeous, Yes it is, honestly, and that

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<v Speaker 1>was actually gonna really my round. Boost.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, don't give it out away, I know, but we're

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<v Speaker 2>here now. Too early, too early, save it, save it.

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<v Speaker 2>I got lost. I got so lost on the trains today.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you New York City subway system. I appreciate that,

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<v Speaker 2>but I almost didn't mind because it was so gorgeous outside.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, where were you going?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I was on my way. So my couple of

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<v Speaker 2>my good friends had a fundraiser for Hillary, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>whichever your political weaves are. We had they had a

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<v Speaker 2>little fundraiser. It was like, it was cute. They they

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<v Speaker 2>made crapes. It was like a brunch mimosas thing, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, everyone kind of kind of donated to the

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<v Speaker 2>Hillary Clinton campaign. And it was fun because I haven't

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<v Speaker 2>really had a chance to get super political so far

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<v Speaker 2>in the season. I've sort of been watching and like

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<v Speaker 2>shaking my head and like just feeling the pain of

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<v Speaker 2>what's whatever's happening on the Republican side, and it hasn't

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<v Speaker 2>really I haven't really had time to like think about.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>My whole thought process so far has been like just

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<v Speaker 2>vote for anybody on the Democratic tracket. Just anybody, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>Ernie Hillary, a sock puppet.

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<v Speaker 1>Who like somebody's newborn puppy whoever.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. But it was nice. I mean, how many chances

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<v Speaker 2>do you get to sit around like just with with

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<v Speaker 2>your girlfriends and there's some guys there too, and and

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<v Speaker 2>and talk about politics and the election. It was it

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<v Speaker 2>was kind of nice and it was fun.

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<v Speaker 1>I did yesterday, I got a I got an award

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<v Speaker 1>from you. Have you ever heard of Jack and Jill

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<v Speaker 1>the Bar? No, Jack and Jill of America. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>a I guess it's a social club, I guess. But

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<v Speaker 1>the purpose of Jack and Jill of America is just

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<v Speaker 1>to promote strong black families.

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<v Speaker 2>I think, oh, yeah, okay, you got a very bored Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I know.

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<v Speaker 1>Honestly, it was really weird, not weird, but in a

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<v Speaker 1>good way, because you know, it was nice to be honored,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's like such a I mean, if anybody knows me,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so silly. And it was so everyone there was

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<v Speaker 1>so refined, and so my husband works golden sacks, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and so it was weird that I was like, do

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<v Speaker 1>they know who it gave you award to?

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<v Speaker 2>You feel a little bit of an imposter syndrome coming on?

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, why did you overcome it?

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<v Speaker 1>Honestly, you know what I loved because at first, when

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<v Speaker 1>you first came in, it was very very much like

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<v Speaker 1>the Hues who of Black of Black society. You could

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<v Speaker 1>tell they do like cotillions and stuff like that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they had this amazing band and when that

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<v Speaker 1>woman saying like old school like black hits the dance floor,

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<v Speaker 1>let me know, Oh no, no, we're dealing with folk.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was so fun to see, like you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it go from the cocktail every hour where everybody was

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<v Speaker 1>like because the name of the event was called rims

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<v Speaker 1>and bow Tie, so you had to wear like big

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<v Speaker 1>hats and all the men wore bow ties, so it

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<v Speaker 1>was very fancy. But then the music came on and

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<v Speaker 1>they got on that dance floor like it was nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>eighty five, and I was like, look at my folks,

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<v Speaker 1>no matter what, you could be the CEO of Goldman

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<v Speaker 1>Sacks and you always hear torking on a dance floor.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was fun, so much fun honestly. Of you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I go to a lot of like you know, award

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<v Speaker 1>dinners or whatever not that not necessarily.

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<v Speaker 2>For me too all the time, you know, and most

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<v Speaker 2>of the time of them.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly, but honestly, this one was really good. It was

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<v Speaker 1>mostly dancing. They honored three people, me a gentleman I

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<v Speaker 1>forget his name, but he's the president of the Black

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<v Speaker 1>Chamber of Commerce, and Alfred Edmonds, he is the senior

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<v Speaker 1>by president. Yeah Black the three of us and we

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<v Speaker 1>just it was just every we each had like five

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<v Speaker 1>minute speeches and it was just dancing basically. So it

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<v Speaker 1>was actually really fun. And I just want to thank

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<v Speaker 1>Jack and Jill Off America, the Central New Jersey Chapter

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<v Speaker 1>for the award, for the dancing and for the yummy food.

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<v Speaker 2>Congratulations.

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<v Speaker 1>Donka.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's talk about some craziness happening in the news this week.

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<v Speaker 2>Where I was, I was going between two different headlines

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<v Speaker 2>that I that I've noticed. One of them was Scarlett

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<v Speaker 2>Johanson is playing a Japanese anime character in a movie.

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<v Speaker 2>Her and till this win. Two white women are playing

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<v Speaker 2>Japanese characters in this anime movie and people are losing

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<v Speaker 2>their minds. And then the second one is Kobe. Kobe's

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<v Speaker 2>I retired this week, and you know, of course she

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<v Speaker 2>has a long, illustrious career in basketball, but people sort

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<v Speaker 2>of drudged up from the nineties Woman's two thousand's his

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<v Speaker 2>sex scandal. So yeah, which of those two shall we

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<v Speaker 2>dive into.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm curious about this Scarlett Johansson. So is she so

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<v Speaker 1>it is she just a voice of the character or.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it like, no, no, no, she is the character.

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<v Speaker 2>They have that there's a photo of her, and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not familiar with this particular Japanese movie, this anime, and

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<v Speaker 2>you know, all anime is is is a mostly is Japanese.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm not familiar with this this anime. But she's

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<v Speaker 2>playing a character and the photo that I've seen. What

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<v Speaker 2>they did is they released screenshots from the movie and

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<v Speaker 2>she has the same haircut as a character, and she

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<v Speaker 2>sort of looks like the character, but she's not Japanese,

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<v Speaker 2>and people are sort of like, why would you go

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<v Speaker 2>out of your way to cast her? And then there

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<v Speaker 2>was there was a story that there was a rumor

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<v Speaker 2>that the whatever studio was financing the film had had

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<v Speaker 2>like experimented with CGI to make her look more Japanese.

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<v Speaker 1>Is okay?

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<v Speaker 2>It's called ghost in the show.

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder because I was gonna say, I know, I like,

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<v Speaker 1>I've seen some of these these anime characters and I

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<v Speaker 1>don't I'm like, are they like it's the anime character

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<v Speaker 1>itself Japanese, because sometimes it doesn't seem like the character

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<v Speaker 1>itself is Japanese, because they'll have like, I don't say Japanese,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, So I'm always confused. Yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>So much about this has been written. I'm sure it's

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<v Speaker 2>been written a bet or talked about. But yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean I used to be a huge fan of Sailor Moon.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean you see, okay, real talk. I still am, like,

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<v Speaker 2>I love Sailor Moon. I was obsessed. But all I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>the main character is blonde and blue eyed, and they

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<v Speaker 2>all have huge round eyes, and I haven't I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think any of the characters in the whole show. I

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<v Speaker 2>think only the evil characters when I think back to it,

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<v Speaker 2>that evil characters had like not the huge eyes, but

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<v Speaker 2>like more almond shaped eyes. And I don't know what.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what is why. I don't know why

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<v Speaker 2>anime characters sort of lean that way. But there's all

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<v Speaker 2>these like cultural stereotypes about in Asian culture and all

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<v Speaker 2>these sort of I think the same way that you

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<v Speaker 2>have the light skin debate European beauty standards in the

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<v Speaker 2>black culture. I think, I mean, the most popular surgery,

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<v Speaker 2>the most common surgery now are becoming the most common

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<v Speaker 2>surgery is like eyelid surgery for people of Asian descent

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<v Speaker 2>who want to make their eyes look round her and

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<v Speaker 2>more American. And uh, I mean maybe the studio thought, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 2>she has big eyes in the anime, so we'll just

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<v Speaker 2>make her American.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but I'm gonna know, I'm gonna google. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>hit the Google and see what to be about.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it's it's the same thing happened with Emma

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<v Speaker 2>Emma Stone in that that movie about Hawaii. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>ever watch it, but she played like a Hawaiian princess, right, No,

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<v Speaker 2>not a princess. I think she was in the military

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<v Speaker 2>or the air force. But good guess.

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<v Speaker 1>No, there was a movie about a Hawaiian princess, and

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<v Speaker 1>I thought, that's what it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I excited about that though. That's the Rock. The

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<v Speaker 2>Rock is doing that. It's like a Pixar movie. I

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<v Speaker 2>think with the first Hawaiian princess or something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>They's still royalty in Hawaii. Did you know that?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? I think I cause I had watched I had

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<v Speaker 1>watched like a documentary of like a Hawaiian princess or

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<v Speaker 1>queen or something like that. It was really interesting. I

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<v Speaker 1>thought maybe they were doing a big movie on it.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a Hawaiian dynasty. I don't know whatever, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not so okay, fine, forgive me. I'm not a Hawaiian

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<v Speaker 2>Royalty expert. But yeah, so Emma Stone was cast in

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<v Speaker 2>this movie and she's supposed to be like one quarter

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<v Speaker 2>Asian and she's clearly not. I just don't see why

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<v Speaker 2>Hollywood continues to think they can get away with this,

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<v Speaker 2>that they won't get dry for it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, why don't care?

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<v Speaker 2>Why not just go find a Japanese actress? I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I see why. Scarlet Johansen is fucking beautiful, like gorgeous, hot, sexy,

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<v Speaker 2>huge fan base, so why not put her in a movie?

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<v Speaker 2>But I don't know what the rest of the cast

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<v Speaker 2>looks like, but they could have done a better job,

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<v Speaker 2>probably representing the Actually, they.

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<v Speaker 1>Clearly didn't see that movie. Remember the movie? I think

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<v Speaker 1>it was Christian Bale. Didn't he play like Moses?

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was called Like, wasn't it called Moses?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Well whatever, you totally Yeah. People were like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>so we refuse, We're not going to go see it,

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<v Speaker 1>and it bombed. So maybe that's what needs to be done, Kings. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>if just don't go and then they'll they'll learn today

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<v Speaker 1>because money makes the world go round, So it's movies

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<v Speaker 1>like that, don't get supported with your dollars. They'll stop

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<v Speaker 1>making them.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why I spent my money on Big Fat Greek

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<v Speaker 2>Wedding too, although I knew it was going to be

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<v Speaker 2>a terrible movie and it was a bad movie, but

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<v Speaker 2>I went anyway because I had a female lead and

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<v Speaker 2>she's Greek and I I love her, and I went anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>It was fine. You just had to like lower your

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<v Speaker 2>expectations a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>And you have the buzzworthies.

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<v Speaker 2>Kobe Kobe. Well, I would just a quick word on

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<v Speaker 2>Kobe because the whole thing is, you know, he's retiring.

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<v Speaker 2>He had this, you know, the high this highest rated

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<v Speaker 2>game I think in ESPN history was his last game

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<v Speaker 2>last week and I was at work and I was,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, we have a group chat and people were

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<v Speaker 2>talking about him. Someone was like, oh, why is he

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<v Speaker 2>called the Black Mamba And people were like, oh, the

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<v Speaker 2>Black Mama was fierce animal nature blah blah blah. And

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, yeah, and just like black Mamba, you

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<v Speaker 2>can sexually assault someone and get away with it scott

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<v Speaker 2>free and have a great career and come out on top.

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<v Speaker 2>And one of my coworkers was just like, I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh God, what do we have to bring up his

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<v Speaker 2>sexual past? Just get over it. It's not a big deal.

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<v Speaker 2>It is a fucking it is a big deal. And

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<v Speaker 2>why why it's a disservice not to talk about it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm sure the girl he raped, it's not like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, I'm over it, Like what it's so

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<v Speaker 1>easy to say, But if that happened to you and

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<v Speaker 1>someone raped you and had sex with you against your will,

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<v Speaker 1>no matter no amount of years, it's gonna erase that.

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<v Speaker 1>No matter how many like games he wins, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna say, like, oh my gosh, that guy who raped me.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, he's a really good basketball player, so

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<v Speaker 1>I'm over it. Like that doesn't It's just so crazy

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<v Speaker 1>to me why people can't see like, yes, we can

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<v Speaker 1>acknowledge Kobe's a good basketball player, but I can also say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you know he did this to this woman. It's not okay,

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<v Speaker 1>Like yeah, that's just so crazy, Like, oh, god forbid,

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<v Speaker 1>we should bring up that he did something terrible, but

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<v Speaker 1>he did.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Alegedly have a hard I think people have

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<v Speaker 2>a hard time. You want. It's naive to me. You

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<v Speaker 2>think that your hero has to be perfect, and why

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<v Speaker 2>can't you accept the fact that your hero who's an amazing

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<v Speaker 2>basketball player, is also has his dark side, and the

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<v Speaker 2>fact that he has been you know, you can say

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<v Speaker 2>it's a symptom of how he's been, you know, from

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<v Speaker 2>his early twenties. Is like rock Star, who's gotten everything

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<v Speaker 2>he wanted and won all the games and been entitled

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<v Speaker 2>to everything and the millions of dollars, would that would somehow,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, lead him over to his darker side of

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<v Speaker 2>feeling like entitled to a woman's body. I don't think

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<v Speaker 2>it's so far fetched. I don't see why he can't

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<v Speaker 2>be both. But we can't celebrate the good without I

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<v Speaker 2>think recalling those darker moments too, because it just sort

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<v Speaker 2>of like it does that young woman a disservice. It

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<v Speaker 2>reminds me of all the Bill Cosby stuff. People just

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<v Speaker 2>want to throw it under the rug and say, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 2>he's something so much good. Doesn't that just like make

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<v Speaker 2>up for this little, you know, little moment of indecency.

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<v Speaker 2>I just think it's bs.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I mean, I'm sure Hitler did a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>good too, but you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I don't know, well, it's not He's not like Hitler.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just saying that, like it's not like because you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess what.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying is, yeah, what are you saying?

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I'm just saying. And like it's no one

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<v Speaker 1>is all good or all bad, you know hardly. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean do you definitely get some super evil people, but

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<v Speaker 1>for the most part, we all have that, like both

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<v Speaker 1>of us. And it's okay to recognize, you know, this

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<v Speaker 1>is kind of messed up, like the whole African Bada

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<v Speaker 1>like stuff. Have you been Have you heard of this?

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<v Speaker 2>I heard it? Yeah? Is this the guy who goes Africa?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that the guy you like? A singer? Okay, never mind,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe I just made it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so he is a song He is like an

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<v Speaker 1>old school like legend and like hip hop like community,

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<v Speaker 1>like you know, just like just very well respected and apparently, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>a young man came forward recently to say that African

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<v Speaker 1>Babada sexually assaulted him years ago, and of course everyone

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<v Speaker 1>was like the lies you tell. And now three other

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<v Speaker 1>young men have come forward because especially in the hip

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<v Speaker 1>hop brown community, and you know, homosexuality is not something

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<v Speaker 1>that's openly discussed. And then on top of that, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like I don't know if I can't remember that the

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<v Speaker 1>men were under age, but pedophilia possibly, And so people

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<v Speaker 1>are of like because he was like mister black and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm proud and you made me feel like proud to

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<v Speaker 1>be a part of this hip hop culture, to be

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<v Speaker 1>black during a time when it was not easy to

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<v Speaker 1>say that, And so people are very torn because he

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<v Speaker 1>was like a hero in the community basically, right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>I just don't take it. I just don't think people

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<v Speaker 2>are I don't believe that everyone's perfect. Like it doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>surprise me. I feel like every famous I'm just waiting.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just waiting. Okay, he's big, now he's famous. Great,

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<v Speaker 2>let's just see what he's done. What skeletons in the closet.

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<v Speaker 2>It reminds me of that movie. Remember the did you

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<v Speaker 2>watch the movie about the Catholic priests in Boston That

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<v Speaker 2>was like a huge story in the early two thousands

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<v Speaker 2>that just dozens and dozens of Catholic priests in Boston

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<v Speaker 2>had been sexually molesting, molesting young boys. And it went

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<v Speaker 2>on to win the Pulitzer Prize. And anyway, it was

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<v Speaker 2>a movie recently, and I think it was the same thing.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, not that Kobe or this you know, hip

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<v Speaker 2>hop star or like on the level of Catholic priests.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's it's it's not out of the realm of

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<v Speaker 2>possibility that these men, when you put men in places

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<v Speaker 2>of power, that they'll take advantage of you know, weak people.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, not just men, but just anyone in place of power,

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<v Speaker 1>taking advantage of vulnerable people, you know, but mostly men. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to make I'm trying to make up for

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<v Speaker 1>the Hitler common Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>It was mostly men in power, So you do the math.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this is true.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, speaking of that, I was just just a quick

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<v Speaker 2>shout out so for actually for the same story. So

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<v Speaker 2>I it's the same story that are our guests on

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<v Speaker 2>today's show that I interviewed for. I also talked with

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<v Speaker 2>Stacy phil Brown Philpott whose name you may not know,

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<v Speaker 2>but she was formerly the CEO of task Rabbit. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>do you know task Grabbit, Yeah, for sure. So she

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<v Speaker 2>was a CEO and I COO, and I interviewed her

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<v Speaker 2>for my story on black business leaders that are changing

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<v Speaker 2>Silicon Valley because there's just so few of them. And

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<v Speaker 2>I just found out last week she got it was

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<v Speaker 2>announced that she was promoted to CEO Chief executive officer

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<v Speaker 2>of task Rabbit, which was a huge win, which is

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<v Speaker 2>which is awesome. And there's just so few. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>talk about how few black leaders there are in Silicon Valley,

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<v Speaker 2>but then talk about black women leaders and it's the

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<v Speaker 2>pools even smaller. So just quick shout out to Stacy, say.

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<v Speaker 1>Stacey, congrats, that's awesome. A lot of them people I know,

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<v Speaker 1>I know a lot of like folks in my DreamCatcher group.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of them use task Rabbit. I think a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of them have signed up to actually make extra

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<v Speaker 1>money during that.

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<v Speaker 2>You know. One of my favorite things that she told

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<v Speaker 2>me in the interview for the story, at one point

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<v Speaker 2>in her career, she decided to move to India. She

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<v Speaker 2>was working at Google way back when, and she decided

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<v Speaker 2>to move to India. At the time, she was married

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<v Speaker 2>to her husband and she left him behind. And she

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<v Speaker 2>talked about how her entire family just couldn't understand why

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<v Speaker 2>would you move to India to run Google's sales ops

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<v Speaker 2>and leave your husband behind? And she talked about how

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<v Speaker 2>it's she U shouldn't be afraid to ask for what

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<v Speaker 2>you need, both at home and at work. And she

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<v Speaker 2>talked about how for her and her husband moves a

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<v Speaker 2>personal decision and they decided they were going to make

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<v Speaker 2>it work together, and she felt empowered to make this

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<v Speaker 2>career move. I mean, obviously it worked out for her

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<v Speaker 2>career wise to make that you know, risky career move

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<v Speaker 2>that wouldn't have been as popular, you know, a couple

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<v Speaker 2>decades ago. So I like that. I like what she

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<v Speaker 2>had to say about that.

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<v Speaker 1>I like that too. That's dope.

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<v Speaker 2>Not that I'm moving into India anytime soon. Yeah, I'm not,

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<v Speaker 2>but you know, and did you see the what do you?

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<v Speaker 2>Did you see the BuzzFeed video?

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<v Speaker 1>I honestly I have to. It's like watching Rosewood, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>or like Twelve Years a Slave. I always tell myself

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<v Speaker 1>cause I've heard so much buzz about it. I was like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I'm ready for those emotions. You

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want it now, I know, but I just I've

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<v Speaker 1>been feeling really happy lately, and everyone it's like every

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<v Speaker 1>time somebody posted, it's clear that they're like pissed off

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<v Speaker 1>about it. So I'm like, yeah, I just I just

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<v Speaker 1>gonna wait until I'm not feeling extra happy and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>really yeah, so like, tell me about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Like you know so, well, I'm gonna tell you about it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Basically, well, Buzzfe's done this before. I think they had

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<v Speaker 2>a video where it was like questions white people have

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<v Speaker 2>for white people and it was like, why are you

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<v Speaker 2>so racist? Why do you know that kind of stuff?

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<v Speaker 2>And they did the same thing for it was like

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<v Speaker 2>questions black people have for black people, and they had

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I watched a lot of BuzzFeed videos, so

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<v Speaker 2>I recognize a lot of their black talent, and they

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<v Speaker 2>had a bunch of their you know im pretty much

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<v Speaker 2>like Look, they pulled out every single black reporter and

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<v Speaker 2>producer on their staff and just had them ask questions

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<v Speaker 2>they're just dying to know about black people, and it

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<v Speaker 2>was but the questions were fucking acinine. It was like

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<v Speaker 2>why do we like watermelon so much? Where did that

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<v Speaker 2>come from? Why can't we be on time? It was

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<v Speaker 2>like every stereotype you've ever had or seen promoted in

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<v Speaker 2>the media, it was these and it was what was

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<v Speaker 2>made it painful for people was that it was black

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<v Speaker 2>people ask you yes questions.

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<v Speaker 1>You're like, why did you let them why?

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<v Speaker 2>One of the questions was like, am i un fleak?

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<v Speaker 2>It was like my grandma wrote these questions, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>God rest her soul. I love you, Nana, But like,

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<v Speaker 2>what was BuzzFeed thinking? And I think they rightfully got dragged.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, the video is still up there. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure that they knew it was gonna be controversial

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<v Speaker 2>when they put it out. I'm sure they got record

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<v Speaker 2>page views, good for you, Happy for you, and millions

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<v Speaker 2>and millions of clicks, but it didn't do any favors

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<v Speaker 2>to people black people in general and the stereotypes that

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<v Speaker 2>are out there as told.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I wonder if there's anybody in the office who's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not gonna do that.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, my friend, I should have asked my friend Kevin. So,

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<v Speaker 2>my friend Kevin, Hey, Kevin Kevin Smith. He's a senior

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<v Speaker 2>editor at BuzzFeed, and he's been in a couple of

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<v Speaker 2>their videos. But he was not in this video. And

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<v Speaker 2>I should ask him because he's a I should ask

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<v Speaker 2>him why he wasn't in it. But I can't imagine

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<v Speaker 2>I would have my hand for that video. I'd been

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<v Speaker 2>like what, but why? But what do you want me

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<v Speaker 2>to ask? I wonder if those were actually questions they had,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, yeah, at any rate, tis what tis and

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<v Speaker 2>I will stay on the on the whole. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>BuzzFeed has the fact that they even had like, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it looked like they had ten, you know, five to

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<v Speaker 2>ten reporters who are of a color on the video,

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<v Speaker 2>and that's pretty rare in newsrooms. So the fact that

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<v Speaker 2>they even have that many black people working for them

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<v Speaker 2>is something too that it tells me that that should

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<v Speaker 2>never have happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, bab you're right, because yeah, you're right. Because what

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, oh, wow, you guys have like a nice

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<v Speaker 1>little mix of people. Then it's like, wait, nobody said, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>not the best idea.

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<v Speaker 2>No, that got green lip. I don't know why, And

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's all for Buzzworthy. We could talk about

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<v Speaker 2>the Nina sim Own movie. You know, I realized we

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<v Speaker 2>haven't talked about that yet.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, we'll say that for next week.

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<v Speaker 2>You just like, I'm ruining your happy mood.

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<v Speaker 1>You're supposed to be into.

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<v Speaker 2>Are your happy topics? Do you have any?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? And I'm just like, I've just been enjoying the weather.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm just like, that's not a happy topic. So

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<v Speaker 1>let's let's say let's say that Zoe Saladonna or whatever

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<v Speaker 1>the heck, your last name is Zoe, Zoe, Zoe whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>close enough Sally's and we're gonna save you that dragging

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<v Speaker 1>for next week when I'm in the dragging mood.

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<v Speaker 4>But let's move on to brown breaks.

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<v Speaker 2>What's my brown break gonna be or my brown boost?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you want to go first? I don't really have one.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think hmmm, my brown break.

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<v Speaker 2>Positivity, And it can't be your workout routine or taking

0:21:53.680 --> 0:21:55.480
<v Speaker 2>your break from work because that's been your brown boost

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<v Speaker 2>for like five weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so the police, all right, so my brown you

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<v Speaker 1>know I'm actually gonna take a brown break from I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. I feel like so I just got like

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<v Speaker 1>a petticare and a manicure, and you would think that

0:22:12.119 --> 0:22:15.439
<v Speaker 1>like I moved, I, like, you know, cured cancer, when

0:22:15.480 --> 0:22:16.959
<v Speaker 1>I such a big deal that I have to get

0:22:16.960 --> 0:22:19.560
<v Speaker 1>a pedicare in manicure. I mean, like, I mean it's

0:22:19.560 --> 0:22:21.680
<v Speaker 1>not to say I'm like ungroomed. I just usually just

0:22:21.720 --> 0:22:24.159
<v Speaker 1>cut my nails down and then that's it. But like,

0:22:24.200 --> 0:22:25.800
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if that's such a big deal, Like

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<v Speaker 1>why is that like boyfriends I've had in the pasta

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<v Speaker 1>like you don't get regular pandicares and manicures. I'm like,

0:22:30.640 --> 0:22:33.159
<v Speaker 1>I wash my feet, I cut my nails like boyfriends

0:22:33.320 --> 0:22:35.800
<v Speaker 1>said that, Yeah, like you don't get paid. Like like

0:22:35.840 --> 0:22:38.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I've like had boyfriends be like like Tiffany,

0:22:38.920 --> 0:22:40.720
<v Speaker 1>I never see you go get a pedicure of manicure.

0:22:40.760 --> 0:22:42.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, yeah'm my my feet are fine, Like you know,

0:22:42.960 --> 0:22:45.720
<v Speaker 1>I don't. I've only I only will do it if

0:22:45.720 --> 0:22:48.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm going away on like a vacation or if I'm

0:22:48.240 --> 0:22:49.960
<v Speaker 1>gonna be in somebody's wedding and I'm like, well let

0:22:50.000 --> 0:22:52.479
<v Speaker 1>me get fancy for but on a regular you know.

0:22:52.600 --> 0:22:55.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm just like I just scrub down my feet in

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<v Speaker 1>my hands and I trim my nails. I just don't see,

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<v Speaker 1>like why, like why is that like a rite of passion?

0:23:02.119 --> 0:23:03.480
<v Speaker 1>I guess it's like, you know, is it the same

0:23:03.480 --> 0:23:05.240
<v Speaker 1>thing like packed underwear? Like it's tack for me to like,

0:23:05.280 --> 0:23:08.879
<v Speaker 1>you know, move on to like, but I just don't understand,

0:23:08.960 --> 0:23:11.160
<v Speaker 1>Like it's so crazy because I'm like, when did all

0:23:11.200 --> 0:23:14.280
<v Speaker 1>my friends start getting regular petticure manicers, even my friends

0:23:14.280 --> 0:23:17.199
<v Speaker 1>who were not like fancy girls or whatever. It's just

0:23:17.280 --> 0:23:19.720
<v Speaker 1>like girl, I always get my petty and nanny, even

0:23:19.760 --> 0:23:21.560
<v Speaker 1>if it's not like you know, they get tips or whatever.

0:23:21.960 --> 0:23:24.040
<v Speaker 1>And I'm like, really, when did I No one, I didn't.

0:23:23.880 --> 0:23:24.520
<v Speaker 2>Get that memo.

0:23:24.760 --> 0:23:26.560
<v Speaker 1>No one told me to the side in gym class.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's a personal thing. I think so sorry.

0:23:32.400 --> 0:23:35.160
<v Speaker 2>I think it's a personal thing where Actually what's funny

0:23:35.200 --> 0:23:38.240
<v Speaker 2>is I also got a Mani petty yesterday. Okay, but

0:23:38.400 --> 0:23:39.600
<v Speaker 2>just because I knew the weather was going to be

0:23:39.680 --> 0:23:41.200
<v Speaker 2>nice and I just want to treat myself. I was

0:23:41.200 --> 0:23:43.439
<v Speaker 2>supposed to go to the dentist, but I woke up

0:23:43.440 --> 0:23:45.800
<v Speaker 2>and I was like, I'm going to cancel that appointment

0:23:45.840 --> 0:23:49.359
<v Speaker 2>and go get a Manni pettist. Toothache be damned, and

0:23:49.400 --> 0:23:53.919
<v Speaker 2>my two still hurts my feet as so judge me

0:23:54.040 --> 0:23:55.600
<v Speaker 2>as you want. But you know what I think I've

0:23:55.600 --> 0:23:58.720
<v Speaker 2>talked about that before is during the recession, the number

0:23:58.760 --> 0:24:01.560
<v Speaker 2>of women who spend money on menies and petties like skyrocketed.

0:24:01.560 --> 0:24:04.200
<v Speaker 2>And it's because it's sort of a small treat you

0:24:04.240 --> 0:24:07.040
<v Speaker 2>can give yourself. It doesn't cost the world. I mean hopefully,

0:24:07.040 --> 0:24:08.639
<v Speaker 2>I mean for me, it was like thirty bucks and

0:24:08.680 --> 0:24:11.320
<v Speaker 2>I had two hours of relaxing time at the nail

0:24:11.400 --> 0:24:13.680
<v Speaker 2>salon and it's just a little treat for yourself. I

0:24:13.680 --> 0:24:15.720
<v Speaker 2>don't think it's mandatory, but I think women do it

0:24:15.760 --> 0:24:17.040
<v Speaker 2>because it makes them feel nice.

0:24:17.920 --> 0:24:19.800
<v Speaker 1>No, but I've actually had people like shake my hand,

0:24:19.880 --> 0:24:21.359
<v Speaker 1>like grown women who are kind of like kind of know,

0:24:21.400 --> 0:24:24.159
<v Speaker 1>they're like, ooh girl, you don't get manicures on my geez.

0:24:25.520 --> 0:24:28.760
<v Speaker 1>I judging, I know, very judging, And that's why I

0:24:28.760 --> 0:24:30.880
<v Speaker 1>guess that's like kind of like my I don't mind

0:24:30.920 --> 0:24:32.680
<v Speaker 1>a petticare madicr. But I know some people are like,

0:24:32.720 --> 0:24:35.200
<v Speaker 1>oh my gosh, they like live by because I get

0:24:35.200 --> 0:24:37.080
<v Speaker 1>my eyebrows done and where I get them done is

0:24:37.080 --> 0:24:40.120
<v Speaker 1>a petty manny spot, and so I see women in there,

0:24:40.480 --> 0:24:42.439
<v Speaker 1>you know, they go regularly, and I'm just like, I

0:24:42.440 --> 0:24:44.920
<v Speaker 1>don't know, like when I get them done, it's it's cool,

0:24:44.960 --> 0:24:47.000
<v Speaker 1>but it's not like, oh my gosh, this is my

0:24:47.280 --> 0:24:51.040
<v Speaker 1>peaceful time, this is my like you know, wu sah.

0:24:51.359 --> 0:24:52.760
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, it's just kind of like all right,

0:24:52.760 --> 0:24:55.320
<v Speaker 1>they're done, Like I like taking walks, that's my USA.

0:24:55.600 --> 0:24:57.719
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, so I'm just taking a brown break from

0:24:57.760 --> 0:25:00.240
<v Speaker 1>the judgment of I don't get regular and it's a

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<v Speaker 1>pays I'm sure if you see me in the street

0:25:01.760 --> 0:25:03.160
<v Speaker 1>to can be looking at my toes in my hands

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't care.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, well, I guess it's kind of a brown boost.

0:25:09.359 --> 0:25:11.400
<v Speaker 2>I just want to give a hey for It took

0:25:11.400 --> 0:25:14.760
<v Speaker 2>me a long time to master to figure out how

0:25:14.800 --> 0:25:17.000
<v Speaker 2>to use credit cards. No one ever taught me this,

0:25:18.040 --> 0:25:20.919
<v Speaker 2>and I fell into the same pitfalls after collars, and

0:25:20.920 --> 0:25:23.480
<v Speaker 2>I think a lot of people do. Where I was

0:25:23.560 --> 0:25:26.639
<v Speaker 2>earning like no money when I, you know, lost my

0:25:26.720 --> 0:25:28.399
<v Speaker 2>job in New York, and then I was for a

0:25:28.400 --> 0:25:30.159
<v Speaker 2>whole summer just out of work, and I foundally got

0:25:30.200 --> 0:25:32.600
<v Speaker 2>a job that paid me like practically nothing, and I

0:25:32.640 --> 0:25:34.960
<v Speaker 2>was starting to lean on my credit card and the limit,

0:25:35.359 --> 0:25:37.159
<v Speaker 2>thank god, it was really it was low. It was

0:25:37.240 --> 0:25:40.119
<v Speaker 2>something like two thousand dollars. But I would constantly, like

0:25:40.600 --> 0:25:44.359
<v Speaker 2>have one thousand, nine hundred and ninety dollars on the card,

0:25:44.400 --> 0:25:45.920
<v Speaker 2>and then I would buy lunch, and then I would

0:25:45.920 --> 0:25:48.040
<v Speaker 2>pay it down and I'd buy lunch like it was

0:25:48.119 --> 0:25:50.120
<v Speaker 2>max out all the time, and then I would get

0:25:50.160 --> 0:25:52.760
<v Speaker 2>interest fees. And it took me, I don't know, like

0:25:53.040 --> 0:25:55.919
<v Speaker 2>up until three or four years ago to finally understand

0:25:55.960 --> 0:25:58.720
<v Speaker 2>how to use credit cards. So I'm really proud of

0:25:58.760 --> 0:26:01.480
<v Speaker 2>where my credit score is now. I've I've I've mastered

0:26:01.480 --> 0:26:04.480
<v Speaker 2>the art of giving yourself a budget for your credit

0:26:04.520 --> 0:26:06.440
<v Speaker 2>card that is actually what you can afford to pay

0:26:06.480 --> 0:26:09.719
<v Speaker 2>off every month, because I've had friends who've like one

0:26:09.760 --> 0:26:11.760
<v Speaker 2>of my friends told me, hey, Mandy, I you'd be

0:26:11.760 --> 0:26:14.119
<v Speaker 2>so happy I got a new credit card and I already,

0:26:14.160 --> 0:26:16.720
<v Speaker 2>you know, almost maxed it out, and isn't that great.

0:26:17.040 --> 0:26:19.320
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, no, why do you think that's great? He's like, oh, well,

0:26:19.359 --> 0:26:21.040
<v Speaker 2>I heard that if you you know, you carry a

0:26:21.080 --> 0:26:23.359
<v Speaker 2>balance every month, and that looks great better to credit

0:26:23.560 --> 0:26:27.400
<v Speaker 2>credit agencies. And I was like, no, no, honey, who

0:26:27.440 --> 0:26:30.919
<v Speaker 2>need boo boo child? No, Like you put money on

0:26:30.960 --> 0:26:33.280
<v Speaker 2>it and you paid off immediately every month, you don't

0:26:33.320 --> 0:26:36.280
<v Speaker 2>get charged interest fees. I like to say that, like

0:26:36.440 --> 0:26:39.160
<v Speaker 2>every card is zero percent interest. If you paid off

0:26:39.160 --> 0:26:41.239
<v Speaker 2>every month, like they won't charge you fees. That's how

0:26:41.240 --> 0:26:44.960
<v Speaker 2>it works. But doing this for like the last three years,

0:26:45.000 --> 0:26:46.440
<v Speaker 2>just putting a little bit of money on there, I

0:26:46.680 --> 0:26:49.840
<v Speaker 2>put like my cable bill, I put my my cell

0:26:49.880 --> 0:26:51.800
<v Speaker 2>phone when I used to pay for that, I put

0:26:51.800 --> 0:26:53.880
<v Speaker 2>it on my phone and I just paid off every

0:26:53.880 --> 0:26:56.200
<v Speaker 2>month it and I figured out exactly what I couldn't

0:26:56.200 --> 0:26:58.160
<v Speaker 2>afford to pay, and it's working out great. My credit

0:26:58.160 --> 0:27:01.879
<v Speaker 2>scores in the high seven hundred's almost eight hundred. And

0:27:02.920 --> 0:27:04.800
<v Speaker 2>what I'll say about having a high credit score is

0:27:04.840 --> 0:27:08.680
<v Speaker 2>it doesn't really matter, like in terms of of day

0:27:08.720 --> 0:27:10.480
<v Speaker 2>to day stuff, like I don't need to have a

0:27:10.480 --> 0:27:12.400
<v Speaker 2>super high credit score. It really only matters when you're

0:27:12.440 --> 0:27:14.639
<v Speaker 2>looking for credit or you want to take advantage of

0:27:14.640 --> 0:27:17.600
<v Speaker 2>the perks of credit. And last week I had to

0:27:17.600 --> 0:27:20.479
<v Speaker 2>put my deposit down on our wedding venue mm hm.

0:27:20.640 --> 0:27:22.199
<v Speaker 2>And this is like, I mean, I'm putting down like

0:27:22.280 --> 0:27:24.520
<v Speaker 2>thousands of dollars at one time. And I was like, Okay,

0:27:24.720 --> 0:27:27.280
<v Speaker 2>they're gonna charge me a processing fee for using a

0:27:27.320 --> 0:27:29.920
<v Speaker 2>credit card, so let me try and find like the sweetest,

0:27:29.960 --> 0:27:32.560
<v Speaker 2>sickest rewards credit card on the market. And I don't really,

0:27:33.280 --> 0:27:36.480
<v Speaker 2>I don't. I don't condone signing up for all these

0:27:36.520 --> 0:27:38.439
<v Speaker 2>credit cards that have bonus offers, you know how they

0:27:38.440 --> 0:27:41.240
<v Speaker 2>are like, oh, if you just spend five thousand dollars

0:27:41.240 --> 0:27:43.359
<v Speaker 2>and three months and we'll give you fifty thousand miles.

0:27:43.359 --> 0:27:46.120
<v Speaker 2>Like I don't think it's right because you get caught

0:27:46.160 --> 0:27:48.240
<v Speaker 2>in that trap, you know, are you really gonna spend

0:27:48.280 --> 0:27:50.320
<v Speaker 2>five thousand dollars in the next three months, Like I

0:27:50.440 --> 0:27:52.719
<v Speaker 2>probably don't spend that much on an average basis, so

0:27:53.160 --> 0:27:55.720
<v Speaker 2>you end up spending money just to get money, which

0:27:55.760 --> 0:27:59.080
<v Speaker 2>doesn't always add up. But for this purchase, I knew

0:27:59.440 --> 0:28:03.440
<v Speaker 2>with my I was going to qualify for rewards on

0:28:03.640 --> 0:28:06.800
<v Speaker 2>the this one credit cards called the Chase Sapphire Preferred.

0:28:06.800 --> 0:28:09.480
<v Speaker 2>It has awesome rewards benefits, and I was like, let

0:28:09.520 --> 0:28:12.800
<v Speaker 2>me get this card and put this deposit down, and I,

0:28:12.880 --> 0:28:15.080
<v Speaker 2>you know, with approofd for the card, and I put

0:28:15.080 --> 0:28:17.159
<v Speaker 2>the deposit down and I immediately paid it off with

0:28:17.200 --> 0:28:20.520
<v Speaker 2>my wedding savings and I got like fifty thousand miles

0:28:20.560 --> 0:28:22.680
<v Speaker 2>which I can use on my honeymoon. It's like over

0:28:22.760 --> 0:28:26.080
<v Speaker 2>six hundred dollars and travel rewards that I'll get to

0:28:26.160 --> 0:28:29.359
<v Speaker 2>use toward airfare or my hotel for the honeymoon. And

0:28:29.440 --> 0:28:31.280
<v Speaker 2>I feel like, I feel like this is something I

0:28:31.280 --> 0:28:34.160
<v Speaker 2>couldn't have done, like three or four years ago, when

0:28:34.200 --> 0:28:37.120
<v Speaker 2>I was had terrible credit and I hadn't figured out

0:28:37.800 --> 0:28:39.240
<v Speaker 2>how credit worked at all.

0:28:39.360 --> 0:28:41.400
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I was super smart.

0:28:41.840 --> 0:28:44.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was a proud moment, and I paid it off,

0:28:44.120 --> 0:28:46.160
<v Speaker 2>and I feel like I feel like I'm like, yeah,

0:28:46.240 --> 0:28:47.960
<v Speaker 2>screw you credit company. It's like, I'm not going to

0:28:48.000 --> 0:28:51.360
<v Speaker 2>pay interest and I'm taking my bonus points. So thank

0:28:51.400 --> 0:29:04.200
<v Speaker 2>you very much, Thank you, Chase. I appreciate it. On

0:29:04.280 --> 0:29:06.880
<v Speaker 2>today's show, I'm really excited about today's guest. I've been

0:29:06.880 --> 0:29:09.720
<v Speaker 2>wanting to talk to this person for months and months

0:29:09.760 --> 0:29:11.960
<v Speaker 2>and months, ever since I interviewed her for a story

0:29:11.960 --> 0:29:15.000
<v Speaker 2>on Yahoo back in February. But she was like, I'm

0:29:15.000 --> 0:29:17.000
<v Speaker 2>taking a little bit of a media break. Can you

0:29:17.040 --> 0:29:19.000
<v Speaker 2>talk to me in April? And so I put a

0:29:19.040 --> 0:29:22.360
<v Speaker 2>calendar reminder for myself to email her, and I'm really

0:29:22.640 --> 0:29:25.400
<v Speaker 2>excited to have her on the show. It's Morgan Debon,

0:29:25.720 --> 0:29:28.120
<v Speaker 2>who you may not know, but you may know her company.

0:29:28.200 --> 0:29:31.640
<v Speaker 2>It's called blavity dot com and I mean, I'm obsessed

0:29:31.680 --> 0:29:33.640
<v Speaker 2>with Blavity. I go to it every day. It's it's

0:29:33.680 --> 0:29:36.120
<v Speaker 2>one of the only black media sites. Well it's one

0:29:36.120 --> 0:29:38.120
<v Speaker 2>of the newer black media sites that I follow, and

0:29:38.120 --> 0:29:41.440
<v Speaker 2>I think it does a really like a fresh look

0:29:41.520 --> 0:29:44.760
<v Speaker 2>at you know, what people are talking about and what

0:29:45.200 --> 0:29:48.600
<v Speaker 2>is buzzing and what's viral in the black millennial space.

0:29:49.080 --> 0:29:52.360
<v Speaker 2>So we're joined today by Morgan Debon. Just a little

0:29:52.400 --> 0:29:55.960
<v Speaker 2>bit about her. I know exciting, right, So she's at

0:29:56.000 --> 0:29:59.720
<v Speaker 2>the tender age of twenty six. She launched Blavity in

0:29:59.760 --> 0:30:01.800
<v Speaker 2>two two thousand and four with the co founder Aaron

0:30:01.840 --> 0:30:06.480
<v Speaker 2>sam Samuels, after realizing she was she She talks a

0:30:06.480 --> 0:30:09.480
<v Speaker 2>little about this later in the show, how black people

0:30:09.520 --> 0:30:13.160
<v Speaker 2>at her university in Saint Louis congregated together no matter

0:30:13.200 --> 0:30:16.000
<v Speaker 2>where they were, cafeteria, the classroom, We all kind of

0:30:16.000 --> 0:30:20.960
<v Speaker 2>came together. Two years later, she after bootstrapping the company themselves,

0:30:20.960 --> 0:30:23.000
<v Speaker 2>Blavity is one of the you know, a fast growing

0:30:23.040 --> 0:30:26.560
<v Speaker 2>media company, and Morgan's joining us to talk about how

0:30:26.600 --> 0:30:30.400
<v Speaker 2>she launched Blavity, how she's raising capital in a man's

0:30:30.640 --> 0:30:34.680
<v Speaker 2>world in Silicon Valley, and about a really exciting venture

0:30:34.760 --> 0:30:37.760
<v Speaker 2>she's launching in May called empower Her and they Empower

0:30:37.800 --> 0:30:38.760
<v Speaker 2>her conference.

0:30:39.120 --> 0:30:41.360
<v Speaker 1>So, without further ado, we present.

0:30:41.320 --> 0:30:44.600
<v Speaker 2>Morgan Morgan, thank you for joining us.

0:30:45.240 --> 0:30:46.080
<v Speaker 3>Thanks for having me.

0:30:46.360 --> 0:30:48.560
<v Speaker 1>Yes more, we have to come up with a new babe,

0:30:48.680 --> 0:30:52.240
<v Speaker 1>new babe, like like a button we can press Mandy.

0:30:52.400 --> 0:30:54.120
<v Speaker 2>Like a big like a foghorn or something, or.

0:30:54.120 --> 0:30:59.080
<v Speaker 1>A something that said like new fave. So that way

0:30:59.120 --> 0:31:01.520
<v Speaker 1>people you know are well where it's a new fave.

0:31:02.440 --> 0:31:04.080
<v Speaker 2>Well, you know, one of the first things I do

0:31:04.160 --> 0:31:06.240
<v Speaker 2>before we even do the podcast is I checked Blavity.

0:31:06.240 --> 0:31:07.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, what's happening in the world, let me go

0:31:07.920 --> 0:31:09.000
<v Speaker 2>check blavity real quick.

0:31:11.040 --> 0:31:14.960
<v Speaker 3>So writers so quickly, so fast that I'm always like, wait,

0:31:15.600 --> 0:31:17.160
<v Speaker 3>did that happen? Did we cover that yet?

0:31:18.080 --> 0:31:18.160
<v Speaker 1>Oh?

0:31:18.280 --> 0:31:21.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's been done. So tell me tell me about Blavity.

0:31:21.440 --> 0:31:23.680
<v Speaker 2>When did it start? How did you start Blavity? Where

0:31:23.680 --> 0:31:26.480
<v Speaker 2>did the concept come from?

0:31:26.680 --> 0:31:27.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:31:27.040 --> 0:31:31.520
<v Speaker 3>So you know, I say Blavity started like I don't

0:31:31.560 --> 0:31:34.640
<v Speaker 3>know seven years ago in my brain. I went to

0:31:34.880 --> 0:31:39.520
<v Speaker 3>Washington University in Saint Louis for college, and I had

0:31:39.520 --> 0:31:42.680
<v Speaker 3>an amazing experience there with my co founders, Jonathan, Jeff

0:31:42.720 --> 0:31:46.920
<v Speaker 3>and Aaron I went to school together. And you know,

0:31:46.920 --> 0:31:49.280
<v Speaker 3>I tell this story a lot, but it's just so true,

0:31:49.360 --> 0:31:52.800
<v Speaker 3>Like we had this moment every day at the black table.

0:31:54.000 --> 0:31:57.080
<v Speaker 3>Was it in the cafeteria exactly? And I think a

0:31:57.120 --> 0:31:59.719
<v Speaker 3>lot of people have similar experiences, regardless of whether you're

0:31:59.760 --> 0:32:02.400
<v Speaker 3>black or not. I mean, you know, the Korean students

0:32:02.960 --> 0:32:05.600
<v Speaker 3>sat together, Hispanic students sat together. It's just kind of

0:32:05.640 --> 0:32:10.040
<v Speaker 3>what you do, right, And but that moment of like,

0:32:10.400 --> 0:32:12.640
<v Speaker 3>you know, I was the only black person in like

0:32:12.680 --> 0:32:15.880
<v Speaker 3>an econ class or whatever, and then you go to

0:32:15.920 --> 0:32:18.840
<v Speaker 3>the lunch table and you're like, hey, guys, how's your

0:32:18.920 --> 0:32:21.600
<v Speaker 3>day going, you know, and it's a mix of people

0:32:21.600 --> 0:32:24.320
<v Speaker 3>from different classes. You know, we're talking about what the

0:32:24.360 --> 0:32:26.720
<v Speaker 3>outfits did last night at the step show. You're talking

0:32:26.760 --> 0:32:29.600
<v Speaker 3>about you know, that racist thing that somebody said in class,

0:32:29.640 --> 0:32:34.120
<v Speaker 3>and it's just a great kind of like opportunity to

0:32:34.160 --> 0:32:39.640
<v Speaker 3>get outside yourself and to embrace the diversity of what

0:32:39.840 --> 0:32:42.720
<v Speaker 3>at that time was college. You know, you have people

0:32:42.720 --> 0:32:45.280
<v Speaker 3>coming from different parts of the world and the country.

0:32:45.640 --> 0:32:47.880
<v Speaker 3>People who grew up in all black communities are people

0:32:47.880 --> 0:32:50.920
<v Speaker 3>who are just now discovering their blackness and stepping into that.

0:32:51.520 --> 0:32:56.040
<v Speaker 3>And those emotions that you go through, you know, those

0:32:56.080 --> 0:33:00.840
<v Speaker 3>are the emotions and the process that we are developing

0:33:00.920 --> 0:33:06.200
<v Speaker 3>and designing online with Glavity. Right, So people use Glavity

0:33:06.240 --> 0:33:08.360
<v Speaker 3>in very different ways. You know, you ask somebody who

0:33:08.360 --> 0:33:11.080
<v Speaker 3>follows us some Instagram, you know, what do you like

0:33:11.080 --> 0:33:13.400
<v Speaker 3>about Blavity, They're going to give you a totally different

0:33:13.440 --> 0:33:17.040
<v Speaker 3>answer than somebody who life tweets with that song when

0:33:17.040 --> 0:33:20.800
<v Speaker 3>we watch scandal, Right, And that's okay, Like, that's how

0:33:20.840 --> 0:33:22.200
<v Speaker 3>the company is designed.

0:33:22.240 --> 0:33:23.560
<v Speaker 1>It's designed for.

0:33:23.640 --> 0:33:28.040
<v Speaker 3>Black millennials in the world and figuring out how we

0:33:28.080 --> 0:33:31.080
<v Speaker 3>can build shared experiences and build connections with each other.

0:33:31.480 --> 0:33:34.200
<v Speaker 3>You know, we're starting with content, which is the version

0:33:34.240 --> 0:33:37.240
<v Speaker 3>of the company that you all see, and you know,

0:33:37.360 --> 0:33:40.840
<v Speaker 3>very quickly moving into other spaces as well to try

0:33:40.880 --> 0:33:44.040
<v Speaker 3>to figure out what our group is in this market.

0:33:44.840 --> 0:33:46.040
<v Speaker 2>So you're question.

0:33:48.840 --> 0:33:50.960
<v Speaker 1>Man is the interviewer, But I'm like, I got questions.

0:33:52.480 --> 0:33:54.440
<v Speaker 1>Mine is not experience. I just want to know, Like

0:33:54.480 --> 0:33:56.920
<v Speaker 1>such a cool name, glavity, Like where did that come from?

0:33:57.400 --> 0:34:00.360
<v Speaker 3>Yes, glavity means black gravity. It's the term that we

0:34:00.440 --> 0:34:02.640
<v Speaker 3>used at the black table. So it was like, you know,

0:34:02.680 --> 0:34:05.120
<v Speaker 3>one person sat down, then like three people will sit down.

0:34:05.160 --> 0:34:06.760
<v Speaker 3>Then all of a sudden, you've got like twenty five

0:34:06.800 --> 0:34:09.520
<v Speaker 3>people on a table that only fits like fifteen, and

0:34:09.520 --> 0:34:11.720
<v Speaker 3>you're like, where did you guys come from? Like didn't

0:34:11.760 --> 0:34:13.360
<v Speaker 3>you have class on the other side of campus? Like

0:34:13.400 --> 0:34:15.600
<v Speaker 3>how did you get over here so quickly? So it's

0:34:15.680 --> 0:34:17.720
<v Speaker 3>kind of like the bat signal, but the black signal.

0:34:18.200 --> 0:34:20.400
<v Speaker 1>So I love that black gravity.

0:34:20.440 --> 0:34:23.279
<v Speaker 2>I like that it's nice to have a name for it.

0:34:23.320 --> 0:34:25.719
<v Speaker 2>I never because I feel like it happens everywhere you go,

0:34:25.800 --> 0:34:27.200
<v Speaker 2>but it's nice to have like a term for it.

0:34:27.239 --> 0:34:29.640
<v Speaker 2>I never heard that before before blavity.

0:34:30.560 --> 0:34:33.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you can be able to you can say Glavity's happening.

0:34:34.920 --> 0:34:37.239
<v Speaker 2>Now, let's talk about it. I mean, I was just

0:34:37.280 --> 0:34:40.000
<v Speaker 2>reading there was an article in Chicago Tribune last week,

0:34:41.239 --> 0:34:45.480
<v Speaker 2>you know, about black business owners and especially black startup owners,

0:34:45.520 --> 0:34:49.920
<v Speaker 2>and how they can sometimes be afraid to market themselves,

0:34:49.960 --> 0:34:52.440
<v Speaker 2>like put their face on the company's website to say

0:34:52.760 --> 0:34:55.360
<v Speaker 2>this product is made with the intention of serving the

0:34:55.360 --> 0:34:59.279
<v Speaker 2>black community, because they're afraid that as soon as customers

0:34:59.280 --> 0:35:02.000
<v Speaker 2>and potential investors see that it's owned by, you know,

0:35:02.200 --> 0:35:06.399
<v Speaker 2>owned buy and for black people, that they won't want

0:35:06.480 --> 0:35:10.719
<v Speaker 2>to take part, contribute invest Is that something that you've

0:35:10.760 --> 0:35:13.759
<v Speaker 2>confronted or thought about as you're you know, moving forward

0:35:13.800 --> 0:35:14.360
<v Speaker 2>with glavity.

0:35:15.280 --> 0:35:15.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

0:35:15.480 --> 0:35:18.120
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, I mean I think it's a reality of the

0:35:18.120 --> 0:35:20.960
<v Speaker 3>world that we live in that every business owner should

0:35:20.960 --> 0:35:23.040
<v Speaker 3>be at least acknowledging.

0:35:23.160 --> 0:35:24.000
<v Speaker 1>You know, that doesn't mean you.

0:35:23.920 --> 0:35:25.759
<v Speaker 3>Have to consider it and how you move in the

0:35:25.760 --> 0:35:27.799
<v Speaker 3>business world, but you should at least acknowledge that it's

0:35:27.800 --> 0:35:32.080
<v Speaker 3>a reality. And for me, I mean, white people love

0:35:32.120 --> 0:35:36.000
<v Speaker 3>glavity like they love it, and they should because it's

0:35:36.000 --> 0:35:40.799
<v Speaker 3>an authentic point of view that it's unapologetic and consistent,

0:35:41.600 --> 0:35:44.880
<v Speaker 3>and you know, we tell it like it is. And

0:35:44.920 --> 0:35:48.280
<v Speaker 3>I think a lot of the voices that are able

0:35:48.360 --> 0:35:53.000
<v Speaker 3>to use the platform appreciate that it's a space designed

0:35:53.239 --> 0:35:58.439
<v Speaker 3>for black people specifically, and so there is no sense

0:35:58.480 --> 0:36:02.799
<v Speaker 3>of explaining, you know, we can use gifts and you know,

0:36:03.000 --> 0:36:06.960
<v Speaker 3>all everything that you guys know of without having to

0:36:07.760 --> 0:36:11.400
<v Speaker 3>worry about how are white people going to like digest

0:36:11.440 --> 0:36:14.239
<v Speaker 3>this information on glavity. We don't care. We're not thinking

0:36:14.280 --> 0:36:14.600
<v Speaker 3>about it.

0:36:15.400 --> 0:36:18.360
<v Speaker 2>I love that is the money following. What's the reception

0:36:18.400 --> 0:36:21.239
<v Speaker 2>you've gotten from investors? Are you actively raising capital? And

0:36:21.400 --> 0:36:23.560
<v Speaker 2>can you talk about that process, because that's sort of

0:36:23.560 --> 0:36:25.759
<v Speaker 2>the ugly side of you know, launching a startup. It's

0:36:25.760 --> 0:36:30.440
<v Speaker 2>so competitive, you know, when you're reaching for those investment dollars, it.

0:36:30.440 --> 0:36:35.640
<v Speaker 3>Is incredibly combetitive, particularly in the media market. And yeah,

0:36:35.680 --> 0:36:37.880
<v Speaker 3>I mean, who isn't always raising? I mean, as a.

0:36:37.960 --> 0:36:42.319
<v Speaker 1>Startup founder, you always have to be raising, and I mean.

0:36:42.200 --> 0:36:45.160
<v Speaker 3>It's a challenge. You know, I've been raising quote unquote

0:36:45.520 --> 0:36:48.720
<v Speaker 3>for since the company launched. In a lot of ways,

0:36:48.760 --> 0:36:51.279
<v Speaker 3>you know, we don't actively have a note that we're

0:36:51.280 --> 0:36:55.799
<v Speaker 3>trying to fill. We've already raised around of funding, but

0:36:56.320 --> 0:36:58.600
<v Speaker 3>you're always in discussions with people trying to get a

0:36:58.640 --> 0:37:03.480
<v Speaker 3>sense of industry, what the financing market looks like, what

0:37:03.560 --> 0:37:05.680
<v Speaker 3>kind of partners do we need to bring on so

0:37:05.719 --> 0:37:08.000
<v Speaker 3>that Glavity can get to the next level and scale quickly.

0:37:09.920 --> 0:37:12.880
<v Speaker 3>And as it relates to the fact that the majority

0:37:12.880 --> 0:37:16.480
<v Speaker 3>of investors don't look like me, you know, I think

0:37:16.719 --> 0:37:18.520
<v Speaker 3>what I try to do a lot of my meetings

0:37:18.560 --> 0:37:21.719
<v Speaker 3>is help them realize how much they have personally been

0:37:21.760 --> 0:37:23.640
<v Speaker 3>affected by black influences.

0:37:23.719 --> 0:37:23.879
<v Speaker 2>Right.

0:37:23.920 --> 0:37:26.320
<v Speaker 3>So I asked them about, oh, are you big on Twitter?

0:37:26.719 --> 0:37:30.640
<v Speaker 3>You know, I asked them about are you what are

0:37:30.640 --> 0:37:32.799
<v Speaker 3>you listening to right now? Right? What did you watch

0:37:32.840 --> 0:37:33.879
<v Speaker 3>on TV last night?

0:37:34.280 --> 0:37:34.440
<v Speaker 1>Right?

0:37:34.480 --> 0:37:38.280
<v Speaker 3>And I try to help them see how the market

0:37:38.640 --> 0:37:42.120
<v Speaker 3>is actually incredibly large because the influence of people of color,

0:37:42.480 --> 0:37:46.839
<v Speaker 3>of the DIASCA specifically is huge. Yeah, and it takes

0:37:46.840 --> 0:37:48.560
<v Speaker 3>a little bit, you know, not everybody gets it right

0:37:48.560 --> 0:37:50.240
<v Speaker 3>off the bet.

0:37:50.680 --> 0:37:53.880
<v Speaker 1>What's your proudest moment as it relates to Blavity, Like,

0:37:53.960 --> 0:37:55.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, you're proud, it's like, oh my gosh, I

0:37:55.400 --> 0:37:56.520
<v Speaker 1>can't believe we're here a moment.

0:37:57.880 --> 0:38:00.200
<v Speaker 3>Well, right now I'm sitting in our new office and

0:38:00.239 --> 0:38:01.960
<v Speaker 3>this is pretty weird.

0:38:03.640 --> 0:38:05.680
<v Speaker 1>That's awesome, It's very cool.

0:38:06.400 --> 0:38:09.279
<v Speaker 3>It's kind of it's in like construction notes, it's kind

0:38:09.280 --> 0:38:11.640
<v Speaker 3>of a disaster. But I'm just so proud that we've

0:38:11.680 --> 0:38:14.040
<v Speaker 3>been able to get to this place from a financial

0:38:14.040 --> 0:38:16.719
<v Speaker 3>perspective that it makes sense and it's good for the

0:38:16.760 --> 0:38:19.320
<v Speaker 3>business for us to actually have a physical location. You know,

0:38:19.400 --> 0:38:20.680
<v Speaker 3>for a while, I thought we were going to be

0:38:20.719 --> 0:38:24.080
<v Speaker 3>a remote company because of the speed of media and

0:38:24.120 --> 0:38:27.279
<v Speaker 3>because of you know, you don't necessarily need to be

0:38:27.280 --> 0:38:31.040
<v Speaker 3>face to face for everything, particularly when you're thinking about engineers.

0:38:31.040 --> 0:38:33.319
<v Speaker 3>You know, a lot can be done actually when you've

0:38:33.360 --> 0:38:39.200
<v Speaker 3>got engineers on different production cycles and sprints, and same

0:38:39.239 --> 0:38:41.160
<v Speaker 3>thing with media, right, having somebody on the East Coast

0:38:41.239 --> 0:38:45.319
<v Speaker 3>is actually really important for news cycle and or having

0:38:45.400 --> 0:38:49.760
<v Speaker 3>someone in London. So it's it's been an interesting transition

0:38:49.800 --> 0:38:52.759
<v Speaker 3>to be like, yes, we have a physical location and

0:38:53.719 --> 0:38:55.360
<v Speaker 3>you know you can come you can come find me

0:38:55.520 --> 0:38:56.359
<v Speaker 3>on any given day.

0:38:56.840 --> 0:39:00.040
<v Speaker 2>So where are you guys based. You're in California, right.

0:39:00.680 --> 0:39:04.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, my first office is actually in la even though

0:39:04.719 --> 0:39:06.360
<v Speaker 3>I started the company in San Francisco.

0:39:06.920 --> 0:39:09.360
<v Speaker 2>Okay, congratulations, Yeah.

0:39:09.200 --> 0:39:11.320
<v Speaker 1>That's awesome. That is like a very big, like you know,

0:39:11.400 --> 0:39:13.480
<v Speaker 1>it's like when you hire your first employee, Like I

0:39:13.520 --> 0:39:14.160
<v Speaker 1>can't believe.

0:39:14.800 --> 0:39:15.040
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:39:15.680 --> 0:39:18.879
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, when we last, when we last talked, you had

0:39:19.160 --> 0:39:21.279
<v Speaker 2>I got the impression that you were doing this kind

0:39:21.320 --> 0:39:23.800
<v Speaker 2>of like in the wee hours of the morning after

0:39:23.880 --> 0:39:25.680
<v Speaker 2>work and you were juggling a full time job. Is

0:39:25.680 --> 0:39:28.360
<v Speaker 2>that still the case? What's your what's your schedule? Like

0:39:28.400 --> 0:39:31.480
<v Speaker 2>these days were able to work on blavity full time?

0:39:32.040 --> 0:39:35.879
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I quit a long time ago. I still work

0:39:35.960 --> 0:39:38.759
<v Speaker 3>wee hours in the morning and at night and on weekends,

0:39:38.800 --> 0:39:43.200
<v Speaker 3>but that's just what we do, right, Yeah.

0:39:42.400 --> 0:39:43.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I quit.

0:39:43.200 --> 0:39:48.120
<v Speaker 3>I can't even remember, like October, not this year, but

0:39:48.160 --> 0:39:53.120
<v Speaker 3>the prior year. So yeah, no more salaries.

0:39:53.760 --> 0:39:55.520
<v Speaker 2>What was it like to quit your job? When did

0:39:55.520 --> 0:39:57.160
<v Speaker 2>you get to the point where you you knew it

0:39:57.200 --> 0:39:57.560
<v Speaker 2>was time?

0:39:59.160 --> 0:40:01.839
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's a question I get frequently, and there's really

0:40:01.880 --> 0:40:03.719
<v Speaker 3>just no good answer. Like, at the end of the day,

0:40:04.480 --> 0:40:09.799
<v Speaker 3>I was working on Blavity so much that it was

0:40:09.840 --> 0:40:13.320
<v Speaker 3>emotionally and mentally too tiring to switch back and forth.

0:40:13.680 --> 0:40:17.600
<v Speaker 3>And I was already doing my bear so my bare minimum,

0:40:17.640 --> 0:40:21.120
<v Speaker 3>but I wasn't focused on my day job. And I

0:40:21.120 --> 0:40:24.239
<v Speaker 3>think that's okay to some extent, But if I had

0:40:24.280 --> 0:40:25.880
<v Speaker 3>taken it any longer, it would have just been like

0:40:25.960 --> 0:40:31.279
<v Speaker 3>morally not okay with me personally, Like you know, I

0:40:31.280 --> 0:40:33.640
<v Speaker 3>didn't go out to happy hour and like let's go

0:40:33.680 --> 0:40:35.640
<v Speaker 3>get a beer. I'm like nah, like I'm good, Like

0:40:35.640 --> 0:40:39.960
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna go right And after a point, like I

0:40:40.040 --> 0:40:43.040
<v Speaker 3>would have I rather even those like six hours that

0:40:43.200 --> 0:40:45.279
<v Speaker 3>those solid six hours that I was working at my

0:40:45.360 --> 0:40:47.520
<v Speaker 3>day job, it was just too much. It was six

0:40:47.560 --> 0:40:50.160
<v Speaker 3>hours that I needed and wanted to be doing something else.

0:40:51.960 --> 0:40:54.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's awesome. I just remember those days. So I

0:40:54.560 --> 0:40:57.840
<v Speaker 1>have a question because I was talking to my entrepreneur

0:40:57.920 --> 0:41:00.719
<v Speaker 1>friends and I most of my really post friends own

0:41:00.760 --> 0:41:03.279
<v Speaker 1>their own businesses. And now we're at I call it

0:41:03.320 --> 0:41:05.480
<v Speaker 1>beginning mid level. So you know, the beginning level when

0:41:05.480 --> 0:41:07.920
<v Speaker 1>you're like, girl, you got one hundred dollars, look at you,

0:41:07.920 --> 0:41:11.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, and then you kind of pass the like,

0:41:11.200 --> 0:41:13.280
<v Speaker 1>oh my gosh, you don't have you know, I'm lucky

0:41:13.280 --> 0:41:15.319
<v Speaker 1>to have enough money to pay my bills. And then

0:41:15.320 --> 0:41:18.520
<v Speaker 1>you enter into mid level where the money's pretty consistent.

0:41:18.920 --> 0:41:20.839
<v Speaker 1>You know, you're not worried about bills, but now you're

0:41:20.880 --> 0:41:23.640
<v Speaker 1>just trying to like strive to like build just like

0:41:23.680 --> 0:41:25.560
<v Speaker 1>that next level company so most of us are in

0:41:25.640 --> 0:41:28.080
<v Speaker 1>that beginning mid level. So I was talking to my

0:41:28.120 --> 0:41:30.839
<v Speaker 1>friend this morning and we were talking about the good,

0:41:30.880 --> 0:41:34.000
<v Speaker 1>the bad, the ugly, and that most entrepreneurs not most,

0:41:34.120 --> 0:41:38.560
<v Speaker 1>but many will only share like the good. And so

0:41:38.560 --> 0:41:40.120
<v Speaker 1>I would like to ask you that, like, you know,

0:41:40.440 --> 0:41:42.319
<v Speaker 1>just because I know a lot of our listeners are

0:41:42.400 --> 0:41:46.200
<v Speaker 1>curious about entrepreneurship or want to become entrepreneurs, can you

0:41:46.200 --> 0:41:48.720
<v Speaker 1>tell us, like, you know, one really good thing, one

0:41:49.000 --> 0:41:51.960
<v Speaker 1>bad thing, and one ugly thing about like doing what

0:41:52.000 --> 0:41:52.319
<v Speaker 1>you do.

0:41:53.880 --> 0:41:56.440
<v Speaker 3>You gotta spend money to make money. That's the first thing.

0:41:56.600 --> 0:41:59.239
<v Speaker 3>Is like I'm incredibly cheap and frugal and can not

0:41:59.400 --> 0:42:02.479
<v Speaker 3>anybody on that team, or my boyfriend or my parents

0:42:02.520 --> 0:42:04.319
<v Speaker 3>talk with anyone. And I'm like, oh, I don't really

0:42:04.320 --> 0:42:06.239
<v Speaker 3>know if it's necessary for us to turn that light

0:42:06.280 --> 0:42:10.160
<v Speaker 3>on right now, but we can perhaps this window.

0:42:11.480 --> 0:42:13.000
<v Speaker 1>That's the good of the bad. That's the bad thing.

0:42:13.600 --> 0:42:15.120
<v Speaker 3>I think it's bad in a lot of ways, at

0:42:15.160 --> 0:42:17.160
<v Speaker 3>least in a company that I'm building, Like I think

0:42:17.160 --> 0:42:19.680
<v Speaker 3>it was great in the beginning because we're bootstrapping and

0:42:19.719 --> 0:42:22.960
<v Speaker 3>so everything be mattered, But now that we have a

0:42:23.000 --> 0:42:27.280
<v Speaker 3>little bit of capital, like you're racing against the clock

0:42:27.320 --> 0:42:29.359
<v Speaker 3>in a lot of ways, particularly when it comes to

0:42:30.800 --> 0:42:34.840
<v Speaker 3>a media company where scale is key, right, So you

0:42:34.960 --> 0:42:37.040
<v Speaker 3>have to spend money to make money. Does it make

0:42:37.080 --> 0:42:41.040
<v Speaker 3>more sense to spend five thousand dollars in Facebook ads

0:42:41.360 --> 0:42:45.240
<v Speaker 3>today as opposed to spending one thousand dollars a month

0:42:45.800 --> 0:42:49.239
<v Speaker 3>for five months? Okay, right, because you're going to get

0:42:49.239 --> 0:42:52.120
<v Speaker 3>the same results, the same conversion rate. So what's the

0:42:52.160 --> 0:42:54.879
<v Speaker 3>benefit of having you know, ten thousand to twenty five

0:42:54.920 --> 0:42:57.759
<v Speaker 3>thousand more likes now than it would be to have

0:42:57.880 --> 0:43:00.600
<v Speaker 3>you know, two to three thousand more likes month over

0:43:00.680 --> 0:43:04.120
<v Speaker 3>five months. Those are the equations and the things that

0:43:04.160 --> 0:43:06.560
<v Speaker 3>we're thinking about right now, and it's it's been a

0:43:06.600 --> 0:43:09.000
<v Speaker 3>mental shift for me to say, like, actually, it makes

0:43:09.000 --> 0:43:11.080
<v Speaker 3>more sense for us it's been that five thousand dollars

0:43:11.120 --> 0:43:14.040
<v Speaker 3>all at once right now than it does for us

0:43:14.080 --> 0:43:16.560
<v Speaker 3>to spread it out over time, because now, you know,

0:43:16.560 --> 0:43:18.640
<v Speaker 3>the bigger we are today, the more that I can sell,

0:43:18.680 --> 0:43:20.279
<v Speaker 3>the more that I can connect with people, the more

0:43:20.320 --> 0:43:24.520
<v Speaker 3>that we can get them into the Blavity family, as

0:43:24.520 --> 0:43:25.400
<v Speaker 3>opposed to waiting.

0:43:26.320 --> 0:43:28.359
<v Speaker 1>So that's the bad. So what's the good and what's

0:43:28.360 --> 0:43:28.840
<v Speaker 1>the ugly?

0:43:30.480 --> 0:43:33.000
<v Speaker 3>I mean, the good is like you get to wake

0:43:33.080 --> 0:43:35.560
<v Speaker 3>up every day and do what you want, you know.

0:43:35.680 --> 0:43:39.960
<v Speaker 3>I mean there's obviously pressures involved, but I feel completely

0:43:40.000 --> 0:43:43.120
<v Speaker 3>blessed and honored, and I pinch myself frequently that like

0:43:43.280 --> 0:43:46.879
<v Speaker 3>I can wake up and say, you know, today I'm

0:43:46.920 --> 0:43:50.839
<v Speaker 3>going to send out an Instagram question about seeing the

0:43:50.880 --> 0:43:54.520
<v Speaker 3>dopest like web series creators in Brooklyn, you know, and

0:43:54.640 --> 0:43:57.360
<v Speaker 3>find like thirteen people I've never even heard of before,

0:43:57.480 --> 0:44:00.320
<v Speaker 3>and then like talk to them and potentially help them

0:44:00.600 --> 0:44:03.840
<v Speaker 3>use the blavity audience to accomplish their goals. Like that's amazing.

0:44:04.600 --> 0:44:09.040
<v Speaker 3>And the ugly with that specifically or in general, no,

0:44:09.120 --> 0:44:09.520
<v Speaker 3>in general.

0:44:09.560 --> 0:44:11.600
<v Speaker 1>The ugly is it relates to your business.

0:44:11.920 --> 0:44:14.640
<v Speaker 3>I mean, the ugly is like I'm I'm ten thounds

0:44:14.680 --> 0:44:21.320
<v Speaker 3>overweight right now. I'm not cute. I'm five feet for

0:44:21.400 --> 0:44:25.239
<v Speaker 3>people that don't know, I'm incredibly petite and carvey, and

0:44:25.320 --> 0:44:27.560
<v Speaker 3>so ten pounds like matters?

0:44:28.000 --> 0:44:29.160
<v Speaker 2>Is it? Like a happy weight?

0:44:29.400 --> 0:44:29.520
<v Speaker 5>Is it?

0:44:29.520 --> 0:44:31.080
<v Speaker 2>Because the business is going good.

0:44:31.480 --> 0:44:34.680
<v Speaker 3>It looks cute, like it's okay, But I prefer not

0:44:34.760 --> 0:44:39.719
<v Speaker 3>to be overweight. And the ugly is that, you know,

0:44:40.200 --> 0:44:44.480
<v Speaker 3>I'm working hard, and everybody is working hard, and it's

0:44:44.480 --> 0:44:47.160
<v Speaker 3>not easy to always take care of yourself first. You know,

0:44:47.239 --> 0:44:48.840
<v Speaker 3>you want to put the business first. You want to

0:44:48.880 --> 0:44:51.640
<v Speaker 3>put your teammates first, you want to put your investors first,

0:44:51.680 --> 0:44:54.439
<v Speaker 3>you want to put your users, you know, absolutely first. Right,

0:44:54.600 --> 0:44:59.680
<v Speaker 3>So to make the decision at times to like go

0:44:59.760 --> 0:45:02.920
<v Speaker 3>on that extra walk instead of just having it delivered

0:45:02.920 --> 0:45:07.919
<v Speaker 3>to you, the food whatever, Like, it's not easy. It's

0:45:07.960 --> 0:45:11.440
<v Speaker 3>something that I'm currently trying to work on. But for

0:45:11.480 --> 0:45:13.399
<v Speaker 3>the first year, Like, I don't think that I could

0:45:13.440 --> 0:45:15.239
<v Speaker 3>have been as productive if I was like I'm going

0:45:15.320 --> 0:45:17.040
<v Speaker 3>to work out for an hour every day, Like no,

0:45:18.040 --> 0:45:23.600
<v Speaker 3>like I need to email people, you know, but you

0:45:23.600 --> 0:45:26.000
<v Speaker 3>know there's an intended consequence with those decisions.

0:45:26.440 --> 0:45:28.799
<v Speaker 2>What is your schedule? Like walk us through a normal.

0:45:28.600 --> 0:45:33.000
<v Speaker 3>Day depends on a coast time on if I'm on

0:45:33.040 --> 0:45:35.879
<v Speaker 3>the West Coast, I wake up feeling behind a little

0:45:35.920 --> 0:45:38.640
<v Speaker 3>bit because everything's already happened. So I usually wake up

0:45:38.640 --> 0:45:41.879
<v Speaker 3>around six five thirty just to check to see what's

0:45:41.920 --> 0:45:44.800
<v Speaker 3>viral on the site if anything. If there's nothing viral,

0:45:45.000 --> 0:45:47.880
<v Speaker 3>then I usually send off a few Slack messages to

0:45:47.920 --> 0:45:50.720
<v Speaker 3>our team, like or check to see what's going on

0:45:50.880 --> 0:45:52.680
<v Speaker 3>with our news team, like what are you guys writing

0:45:53.160 --> 0:45:57.239
<v Speaker 3>or are the headlines does something any sense. If everything's

0:45:57.400 --> 0:46:00.200
<v Speaker 3>good and we're viral, I go back to sleep hour

0:46:00.200 --> 0:46:04.520
<v Speaker 3>and a half and then I start I just start

0:46:04.600 --> 0:46:08.879
<v Speaker 3>knocking out emails. Depending on the day, I usually block

0:46:08.920 --> 0:46:12.160
<v Speaker 3>off like big blocks of time for projects. So for example,

0:46:12.239 --> 0:46:14.560
<v Speaker 3>Mondays are my one on ones. I have one on

0:46:14.560 --> 0:46:19.680
<v Speaker 3>ones with everybody on our leadership team and my direct reports.

0:46:20.000 --> 0:46:23.200
<v Speaker 3>And then you know, Tuesdays are engineering, so I spend

0:46:23.239 --> 0:46:28.759
<v Speaker 3>the morning thinking about features and writing up user stories

0:46:28.880 --> 0:46:32.359
<v Speaker 3>and designs things like that. So it depends on the day,

0:46:32.400 --> 0:46:35.160
<v Speaker 3>but I try to do a block of emails and

0:46:35.200 --> 0:46:37.560
<v Speaker 3>then a block of project and then usually it's the

0:46:37.600 --> 0:46:38.759
<v Speaker 3>rest is just beatings.

0:46:39.000 --> 0:46:40.920
<v Speaker 2>Do you have an unplugged time? You know, I talked

0:46:40.960 --> 0:46:44.480
<v Speaker 2>with Arianna Huffington. She's all about the sleep and the unplugging.

0:46:44.680 --> 0:46:47.560
<v Speaker 2>But when you work for a digital media company, like

0:46:47.640 --> 0:46:49.080
<v Speaker 2>when do you have time to unplug?

0:46:50.200 --> 0:46:55.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I unplug on Saturdays. Our traffic also shows that

0:46:55.120 --> 0:46:59.880
<v Speaker 3>we unplug on Saturdays at this company. But yeah, Saturdays

0:46:59.880 --> 0:47:03.160
<v Speaker 3>are usually my like let's go for brunch day, you know,

0:47:03.239 --> 0:47:05.560
<v Speaker 3>let's go frolic in the sand at the beach, right,

0:47:06.719 --> 0:47:09.920
<v Speaker 3>and then at night I tend to unplug, you know,

0:47:10.000 --> 0:47:14.160
<v Speaker 3>after like eight point thirty nine, and that she's kind

0:47:14.160 --> 0:47:16.200
<v Speaker 3>of like personal me time. You know, I still might

0:47:16.239 --> 0:47:18.719
<v Speaker 3>wind up doing catching up on some work, but it's

0:47:18.800 --> 0:47:21.520
<v Speaker 3>usually nothing that's related to anybody else. It's usually just

0:47:21.520 --> 0:47:24.360
<v Speaker 3>something I want to think through or work on.

0:47:26.920 --> 0:47:28.719
<v Speaker 1>Wow, you're like speaking to my life right now. I'm like,

0:47:28.719 --> 0:47:32.719
<v Speaker 1>oh my gosh, Like, do you have like a I

0:47:32.800 --> 0:47:36.319
<v Speaker 1>So my best friend has a public relations company and

0:47:36.360 --> 0:47:38.360
<v Speaker 1>we started at the same time, and she's like my

0:47:38.600 --> 0:47:41.040
<v Speaker 1>talk me off the ledge partner. You know, when you're

0:47:41.080 --> 0:47:43.800
<v Speaker 1>just like I'm done with this, I'm leaving, I'm running away,

0:47:43.920 --> 0:47:47.400
<v Speaker 1>no one will find me. So when I'm like I

0:47:47.440 --> 0:47:49.800
<v Speaker 1>need literally when your toes are at the edge of

0:47:49.840 --> 0:47:51.920
<v Speaker 1>the ledge and you're ready to jump. So she's like

0:47:51.960 --> 0:47:54.239
<v Speaker 1>the person that I call because she's an entrepreneur as well.

0:47:54.560 --> 0:47:55.839
<v Speaker 1>So I'm like, I need you to talk me off

0:47:55.880 --> 0:47:57.960
<v Speaker 1>the ledge, and she would slowly talk me to backing

0:47:58.040 --> 0:47:59.960
<v Speaker 1>up and realizing how much I love what I do.

0:48:00.719 --> 0:48:03.600
<v Speaker 1>But do you have like you're talking off the ledge partner?

0:48:03.880 --> 0:48:06.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean I have, you know, three co founders.

0:48:06.520 --> 0:48:09.880
<v Speaker 3>So that helps because when I'm not feeling it and

0:48:09.880 --> 0:48:13.160
<v Speaker 3>I'm like everybody, y'all are all crazy I'm good. You know,

0:48:14.320 --> 0:48:18.640
<v Speaker 3>I'll call up Jeff. Usually Jeff is our CTO, and

0:48:18.680 --> 0:48:21.480
<v Speaker 3>I've known Jeff the longest, like barely the longest by

0:48:21.520 --> 0:48:25.560
<v Speaker 3>a few months, but and I'm like, Jeff, help me

0:48:25.640 --> 0:48:28.759
<v Speaker 3>think through why this is bothering me, because usually there's

0:48:28.760 --> 0:48:30.960
<v Speaker 3>a reason why something gets me to the point where

0:48:30.960 --> 0:48:34.400
<v Speaker 3>i'mum the ledge right, like there's something mentally that I

0:48:34.480 --> 0:48:38.319
<v Speaker 3>can't work through, or I'm upset about something that I

0:48:38.320 --> 0:48:42.160
<v Speaker 3>don't know why that requires me to reach that level.

0:48:42.680 --> 0:48:44.960
<v Speaker 3>And he's just really great asking questions, kind of like

0:48:44.960 --> 0:48:48.520
<v Speaker 3>a therapist. I mean usually get to it after like

0:48:48.680 --> 0:48:51.200
<v Speaker 3>a day or so or you know, an hour conversation.

0:48:51.440 --> 0:48:54.520
<v Speaker 3>So he's he's one when it comes to like business things.

0:48:54.600 --> 0:48:58.080
<v Speaker 3>And then you know, my girlfriends from college I'm very

0:48:58.120 --> 0:49:00.239
<v Speaker 3>close with, and so I'll email one of them, I'm

0:49:00.320 --> 0:49:02.799
<v Speaker 3>or text men we have like a group text and

0:49:02.840 --> 0:49:06.960
<v Speaker 3>I'll be like, hey, so this is not going well

0:49:07.080 --> 0:49:09.960
<v Speaker 3>and I don't know what to do. And usually they'll

0:49:10.000 --> 0:49:12.880
<v Speaker 3>remind me of like random things happening to me and

0:49:12.960 --> 0:49:15.480
<v Speaker 3>me mar Chiff or something. I think it's great for

0:49:15.560 --> 0:49:19.520
<v Speaker 3>any entrepreneur to, like one have people that understand the

0:49:19.520 --> 0:49:23.960
<v Speaker 3>process that you're going through from a business perspective, because

0:49:23.960 --> 0:49:26.320
<v Speaker 3>that's really helpful, and then too to I'll talk to

0:49:26.320 --> 0:49:29.360
<v Speaker 3>people who have like no idea what's going on. You know,

0:49:29.400 --> 0:49:30.920
<v Speaker 3>one of my friends is in med school, so it's

0:49:30.920 --> 0:49:33.840
<v Speaker 3>great talking to her because her reality is just so

0:49:34.480 --> 0:49:38.320
<v Speaker 3>different than mine and her challenges are just very different

0:49:38.360 --> 0:49:43.640
<v Speaker 3>than mine, and so we can unplug mentally by involving

0:49:43.640 --> 0:49:45.480
<v Speaker 3>ourselves in each other's worlds.

0:49:47.360 --> 0:49:48.040
<v Speaker 1>Awesome advice.

0:49:48.760 --> 0:49:50.440
<v Speaker 2>One of the things that was really funny that you

0:49:50.480 --> 0:49:53.239
<v Speaker 2>mentioned is that when you were and I did the

0:49:53.239 --> 0:49:55.160
<v Speaker 2>same thing. Actually when I was in school when I

0:49:55.200 --> 0:49:57.839
<v Speaker 2>was younger, is you started your own little kool aid

0:49:58.120 --> 0:50:00.239
<v Speaker 2>selling business, like on the side and the lunch room.

0:50:00.280 --> 0:50:00.759
<v Speaker 2>Is that right now?

0:50:01.440 --> 0:50:02.040
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely?

0:50:02.200 --> 0:50:04.279
<v Speaker 2>Talk about like where did you get the You say

0:50:04.320 --> 0:50:06.920
<v Speaker 2>you have an entrepreneurial spirit, but who's been your biggest

0:50:07.200 --> 0:50:09.320
<v Speaker 2>influence in that? In that way, because not all of

0:50:09.440 --> 0:50:12.560
<v Speaker 2>us grow up saying I'm going to launch a company.

0:50:14.000 --> 0:50:16.000
<v Speaker 3>You know, I have to credit my parents, And I.

0:50:15.920 --> 0:50:18.960
<v Speaker 5>Don't even know if they like knew that they created

0:50:19.160 --> 0:50:24.600
<v Speaker 5>like me this way, but they did, Like my dad

0:50:24.600 --> 0:50:27.759
<v Speaker 5>and my mom and dad have been together since they

0:50:27.800 --> 0:50:29.439
<v Speaker 5>were they've known each other since high school.

0:50:29.480 --> 0:50:33.800
<v Speaker 3>Being together since college, and they are just awesome people.

0:50:34.520 --> 0:50:37.600
<v Speaker 3>My dad's a doctor and a researcher, so he's always

0:50:37.600 --> 0:50:41.680
<v Speaker 3>writing grants, which is like such a hospital mentality, right,

0:50:41.760 --> 0:50:45.640
<v Speaker 3>Like you don't just you get to use the money

0:50:45.680 --> 0:50:48.120
<v Speaker 3>to fund your research, but you have to, you know,

0:50:48.320 --> 0:50:51.759
<v Speaker 3>justify it and have a budget and write these intense

0:50:51.840 --> 0:50:56.439
<v Speaker 3>documents with scientific backing. My mother is was a stay

0:50:56.440 --> 0:50:59.880
<v Speaker 3>at home mom, and she was all about creativity and

0:51:00.239 --> 0:51:02.799
<v Speaker 3>teaching me to be my own person. And you know,

0:51:02.840 --> 0:51:06.239
<v Speaker 3>so I was always in art classes and you know,

0:51:06.280 --> 0:51:08.960
<v Speaker 3>I did taekwondo, I did feel nacky. I was, you know,

0:51:09.000 --> 0:51:15.320
<v Speaker 3>your typical middle income black girl, right, just like thriving,

0:51:15.480 --> 0:51:17.560
<v Speaker 3>but also had a lot of issues as well socially.

0:51:18.200 --> 0:51:22.040
<v Speaker 2>And do people know what that is? Because I feel

0:51:22.040 --> 0:51:24.399
<v Speaker 2>like you don't see the typical middle income black girl

0:51:24.680 --> 0:51:27.360
<v Speaker 2>so much. Do I feel that way in media? You

0:51:27.400 --> 0:51:29.960
<v Speaker 2>really don't like especially know.

0:51:29.840 --> 0:51:32.080
<v Speaker 3>What that means. I don't know it means it's kind

0:51:32.080 --> 0:51:34.040
<v Speaker 3>of spoiled, but like not too spoiled, because I.

0:51:34.560 --> 0:51:35.919
<v Speaker 2>Know what it means. I just don't feel like it's

0:51:35.920 --> 0:51:38.520
<v Speaker 2>like represented so much in media as much as it

0:51:38.640 --> 0:51:41.360
<v Speaker 2>probably should be, where it's like that's normal, but for

0:51:41.440 --> 0:51:43.759
<v Speaker 2>people who you know don't see that in everyday life.

0:51:43.800 --> 0:51:46.719
<v Speaker 3>It's like what it's like Girlfriends. It's like the TV

0:51:46.760 --> 0:51:52.080
<v Speaker 3>show Girlfriends, you know, like we need a more dramatized

0:51:52.160 --> 0:51:54.759
<v Speaker 3>version of myself and lived in New York, Like I

0:51:55.160 --> 0:51:58.200
<v Speaker 3>probably be like the girlfriend show.

0:51:59.000 --> 0:52:02.640
<v Speaker 2>You feel about what's your favorite show on TV right now?

0:52:03.480 --> 0:52:05.800
<v Speaker 3>I don't watch Blackish, which I know is unpopular with

0:52:05.800 --> 0:52:08.239
<v Speaker 3>black opinion, but I don't I neither do.

0:52:08.239 --> 0:52:10.799
<v Speaker 2>I for a reason or just because you don't have

0:52:10.840 --> 0:52:12.200
<v Speaker 2>time or it's.

0:52:12.040 --> 0:52:13.920
<v Speaker 3>Not feeling it. No, I watch TV. I watch a

0:52:13.920 --> 0:52:16.600
<v Speaker 3>lot of TV. I'm not feeling it, Like it's just

0:52:16.640 --> 0:52:18.799
<v Speaker 3>not I don't think I'm the target demographic. Like I

0:52:18.800 --> 0:52:22.040
<v Speaker 3>don't have kids, so I don't need like a family

0:52:22.040 --> 0:52:25.600
<v Speaker 3>friendly show, and I don't really find them all funny.

0:52:26.320 --> 0:52:29.360
<v Speaker 3>Like I love them all as individual actors and actresses

0:52:29.360 --> 0:52:32.360
<v Speaker 3>and I support their careers, but the show just doesn't

0:52:32.400 --> 0:52:37.440
<v Speaker 3>really appeal to me. What shows do I like? I mean,

0:52:37.480 --> 0:52:40.759
<v Speaker 3>I'm a huge Netflix person, so you know, I don't

0:52:40.800 --> 0:52:42.360
<v Speaker 3>know what do you guys think? Do you guys consider

0:52:42.440 --> 0:52:45.279
<v Speaker 3>Netflix like real TV or do you consider it in

0:52:45.280 --> 0:52:48.760
<v Speaker 3>this like hybrid world At this point.

0:52:48.320 --> 0:52:51.359
<v Speaker 1>I think that honestly, I don't really watch TV much,

0:52:51.680 --> 0:52:55.400
<v Speaker 1>and so I'm really like a YouTube like Netflix, stream

0:52:55.440 --> 0:52:58.640
<v Speaker 1>online type of girl. You know, I'm not loyal to

0:52:58.840 --> 0:53:01.799
<v Speaker 1>like ooh every night. I feel like, I mean, my

0:53:01.800 --> 0:53:03.680
<v Speaker 1>boyfriend does that, but I feel like it's so old school.

0:53:03.680 --> 0:53:05.719
<v Speaker 1>You're like, I've got to sit down on thursday'st but

0:53:05.760 --> 0:53:07.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what I'm going to be doing on Thursdays,

0:53:07.200 --> 0:53:08.279
<v Speaker 1>so I need to be able to watch one I

0:53:08.360 --> 0:53:10.120
<v Speaker 1>want to watch, you know, right.

0:53:10.400 --> 0:53:12.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'm the same way. I don't have a television.

0:53:12.480 --> 0:53:14.000
<v Speaker 3>I haven't had a television in years.

0:53:16.040 --> 0:53:18.919
<v Speaker 2>Well really, since you admitted you don't like Blackish, I'll

0:53:18.920 --> 0:53:21.600
<v Speaker 2>admit that I'm done with Scandal. I'm gone.

0:53:23.000 --> 0:53:27.759
<v Speaker 1>I've been done with Scandal. I checked out after season two.

0:53:27.760 --> 0:53:29.520
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I can't. I just I need, I

0:53:29.560 --> 0:53:30.520
<v Speaker 1>need to get my life back.

0:53:32.160 --> 0:53:34.200
<v Speaker 3>I watch it in solidarity. I don't watch it in

0:53:34.239 --> 0:53:38.360
<v Speaker 3>real time, but I'll watch it like passively.

0:53:38.400 --> 0:53:39.240
<v Speaker 1>It's one of those things.

0:53:39.400 --> 0:53:41.399
<v Speaker 3>There's a lot of shows that I'll watch passively where

0:53:41.400 --> 0:53:43.040
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, I'm going to work on this car point

0:53:43.120 --> 0:53:45.719
<v Speaker 3>deck and like place can't watch Scandal play Scandal on

0:53:45.760 --> 0:53:46.320
<v Speaker 3>the background.

0:53:46.800 --> 0:53:48.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, even though you may not like all

0:53:48.840 --> 0:53:51.000
<v Speaker 2>these you know, we all have our own individual taste.

0:53:51.080 --> 0:53:53.000
<v Speaker 2>You guys have a really good I mean not blavity.

0:53:53.080 --> 0:53:54.839
<v Speaker 2>I feel like whenever you go, it's a pretty good

0:53:55.320 --> 0:54:00.120
<v Speaker 2>mix of pop culture with more newer, newsier things. What

0:54:00.239 --> 0:54:02.480
<v Speaker 2>sort of like balance do you try to strike with

0:54:02.560 --> 0:54:05.160
<v Speaker 2>your content and what have been some stories that have

0:54:05.320 --> 0:54:08.480
<v Speaker 2>done the you know, done amazingly well for you with

0:54:08.560 --> 0:54:09.200
<v Speaker 2>your audience.

0:54:10.200 --> 0:54:13.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's interesting the ebbs and flows based off of

0:54:13.440 --> 0:54:17.400
<v Speaker 3>what's happening in the world. So, like you know, last fall,

0:54:18.080 --> 0:54:21.120
<v Speaker 3>we spent a lot of time thinking about Ferguson and

0:54:21.160 --> 0:54:26.560
<v Speaker 3>Black Lives Matter and how do we elevate voices of activists,

0:54:26.600 --> 0:54:29.440
<v Speaker 3>local activists that are doing the work and maybe haven't

0:54:29.480 --> 0:54:32.279
<v Speaker 3>reached the media level that they deserve, right, So we

0:54:32.280 --> 0:54:34.440
<v Speaker 3>spent a lot of time doing doing work with that.

0:54:34.480 --> 0:54:37.520
<v Speaker 3>I even remember the college students at the Zoo and

0:54:37.760 --> 0:54:41.320
<v Speaker 3>Yale and you see Berkeley, and so we spent a

0:54:41.320 --> 0:54:43.839
<v Speaker 3>lot of time reaching out to those students and saying, hey,

0:54:43.880 --> 0:54:44.920
<v Speaker 3>you know, if you have a point of view and

0:54:44.960 --> 0:54:47.000
<v Speaker 3>you want to share it, feel pretty as lavvy will

0:54:47.040 --> 0:54:50.000
<v Speaker 3>help you write it, et cetera, et cetera. So those

0:54:50.000 --> 0:54:54.080
<v Speaker 3>stories did really well, and then when Beyonce and Kendrick

0:54:54.160 --> 0:54:56.880
<v Speaker 3>went ham during Black History Month, you know that would

0:55:00.080 --> 0:55:02.560
<v Speaker 3>so it really I mean, the beauty of Blavity is

0:55:02.600 --> 0:55:07.840
<v Speaker 3>that it's not necessarily about having a strict editorial content

0:55:07.960 --> 0:55:10.600
<v Speaker 3>theme per month, or per week or per day. It's

0:55:10.719 --> 0:55:14.160
<v Speaker 3>really a reflection of whatever is going on. And that's

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<v Speaker 3>why we stay relevant because we have so much user

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<v Speaker 3>generated content. So when something is happening, it's going to

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<v Speaker 3>be elevated on the website and on the platform. And

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<v Speaker 3>we'll continue to do that because that's the only way

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<v Speaker 3>I think a media company can work at this point.

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<v Speaker 3>It can't be a top scout approach. It has to

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<v Speaker 3>be Okay, something's happening in Detroit. Let's not just send

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<v Speaker 3>like investigative, not investigative, investigatory reporters to Detroit. Now, why

0:55:42.200 --> 0:55:44.640
<v Speaker 3>don't we talk to the person who's been there forever,

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<v Speaker 3>put a camera in their hands and ask them what

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<v Speaker 3>they think and ask them to submit something. So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that's the way I approach it, and those are the

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<v Speaker 3>stories that do well.

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<v Speaker 2>Now empower her. I'm really excited about this. So this

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<v Speaker 2>is a conference you're launching or has it been around for?

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<v Speaker 2>Is it first year? This year or has it been

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<v Speaker 2>around for a while?

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<v Speaker 3>First year?

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<v Speaker 2>This year, first year really exciting. So talk about empower

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<v Speaker 2>Her and how people can get involved with that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so this is like my baby right now. So

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<v Speaker 3>empower Her is our first Glavity conference, and it's a

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<v Speaker 3>conference for black millennial women targeted mostly at women who

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<v Speaker 3>are in the creative or technology industry. So folks who

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<v Speaker 3>are influencers on YouTube, working on getting their startup off

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<v Speaker 3>the ground, starting their own businesses, or thinking about making

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<v Speaker 3>a career switch where they maybe worked in a midy

0:56:46.239 --> 0:56:48.799
<v Speaker 3>like mid level at a corporate company, you know, they

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<v Speaker 3>work for Bane or Deloitte or whatever, and they want

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<v Speaker 3>to get into a different industry. And empower Her is

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<v Speaker 3>all about helping these women and us realize our potential

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<v Speaker 3>and get to the next step. So it's about networking,

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<v Speaker 3>it's about inspiration, and it's about coming away with like

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<v Speaker 3>really tangible tips and tools on how to get to

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<v Speaker 3>the next step. And that has to do with visioning exercises,

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<v Speaker 3>hearing people's stories about how they have started their business

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<v Speaker 3>and gotten to the next step. So we've brought an

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<v Speaker 3>amazing group of women together. Levy Meta, Hey Frien, Hey,

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<v Speaker 3>Avida from the Madness Tribe, Kalichi from Zuva amazing e

0:57:35.360 --> 0:57:40.920
<v Speaker 3>commerce website, Lenora Champagne who is a venture capitalist at

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<v Speaker 3>six or five Ventures and just wrote a book. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>we just have some amazing lineup, Like the list goes

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<v Speaker 3>on of women who are speaking and sharing their stories.

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<v Speaker 3>So that's a little bit about the conference. And it's

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<v Speaker 3>in New York. It's May twenty. First people were a

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<v Speaker 3>little sticker shocked at the price, but people have to live.

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<v Speaker 3>It's in New York, and think about the women I

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<v Speaker 3>just named. We got to get them there, right.

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<v Speaker 2>And what is how do you get involved? You have

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<v Speaker 2>to have a business to come and participate.

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<v Speaker 3>No, you just there's there's no requirements beyond you have

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<v Speaker 3>to just buy a ticket. And so it's all day

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<v Speaker 3>with each breakfast and lunch and we have a little

0:58:21.760 --> 0:58:25.600
<v Speaker 3>happy hour at night. And you just sign up on

0:58:25.640 --> 0:58:28.240
<v Speaker 3>an event. Right, it's on our website and the homepage

0:58:28.280 --> 0:58:31.080
<v Speaker 3>and it's all over our social media.

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<v Speaker 2>Gotcha, And it's okay, what's the what's the website where

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<v Speaker 2>they can find out more? And I'll include a link

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<v Speaker 2>to in the in the blog.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's empower for dot lavity, dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>Perfect so we have some of my faths on face

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<v Speaker 1>Like I talked to Alvida and Lovey and just like

0:58:49.960 --> 0:58:51.840
<v Speaker 1>bouncing step off of them. There's there's some of my

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<v Speaker 1>like just entrepreneur French, what were like, huh so they're amazing?

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<v Speaker 3>Are lare an astron blackgiron Ome that's like my favorite

0:59:00.720 --> 0:59:06.080
<v Speaker 3>Instagram accounts right now, just so many awesome Gabby Fresh,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, she's like blown up in the last two years.

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<v Speaker 3>Just got to split a suit line somewhere line. It's amazing. So,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean I'm looking forward to it. Like I was like,

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<v Speaker 3>if I didn't, what kind of event can we plan that?

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<v Speaker 3>If I wasn't planning it, I would still go. Like

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<v Speaker 3>that's what we always try to think of, was like,

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<v Speaker 3>if you weren't the one doing this, would you still

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<v Speaker 3>read this article or would you still go to this event?

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<v Speaker 2>Why do you think now is the time for an

0:59:30.120 --> 0:59:32.640
<v Speaker 2>event like this? I mean, it's an obvious reason why

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<v Speaker 2>you want to, you know, target an event toward black

0:59:35.360 --> 0:59:38.640
<v Speaker 2>millennial women. But are what are some of the like

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<v Speaker 2>why now? Why this year?

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<v Speaker 1>You know?

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's a good question. I guess a little

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<v Speaker 3>bit to share about my personal journey, like I was,

0:59:48.120 --> 0:59:51.280
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, never really like encouraged to be as

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<v Speaker 3>ambitious as I've been, and that I am. You know,

0:59:54.680 --> 0:59:57.640
<v Speaker 3>there's always a reason why it didn't make sense for

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<v Speaker 3>me to to do something, whether that was to go

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<v Speaker 3>to wash you or to run for student body president

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<v Speaker 3>as a sophomore micro sophomore year in college, or to

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<v Speaker 3>start Blavity without an MBA or without having raised capital

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<v Speaker 3>before or ever working at a startup before. There's always

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<v Speaker 3>a reason why you shouldn't do something, and I think

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<v Speaker 3>for Black women that list is always very long, given

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<v Speaker 3>the statistics, And I wanted to create a space selfishly

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<v Speaker 3>for myself to be affirmed by like awesome women who

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<v Speaker 3>are doing these things and where it's normalized, where it's

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<v Speaker 3>not an anomaly, and you're surrounded by excellence, and you're

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<v Speaker 3>surrounded by women who are energized by the possibilities of

1:00:42.680 --> 1:00:47.080
<v Speaker 3>staff instead of the constant negativity and the constant reminder

1:00:47.240 --> 1:00:49.960
<v Speaker 3>of why we aren't supposed to be as successful as

1:00:49.960 --> 1:00:53.400
<v Speaker 3>we are. So in spite of all these things, we're amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>We're the fastest growing population of women of entrepreneurs is

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<v Speaker 3>Black women. We are the most some of the most

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<v Speaker 3>educated people in this country, huge influence in terms of

1:01:03.560 --> 1:01:08.280
<v Speaker 3>change in politics and education reform. I mean I literally

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<v Speaker 3>I could keep going, and so to me, it's a

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<v Speaker 3>space that needed to be created and I didn't see

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<v Speaker 3>it anywhere else, particularly for women our age. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>I think Essence says an amazing job with Essence Music Festival.

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<v Speaker 3>I went last year. We're going again this year with

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<v Speaker 3>the Glavity House, but we wanted to do a more

1:01:30.600 --> 1:01:34.680
<v Speaker 3>professional take on how can we bring people together and

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<v Speaker 3>inspire these moments of like self fulfillment in a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of ways.

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<v Speaker 2>Sounds like Brown Ambition to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I'm so excited for you and for the conference,

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<v Speaker 2>and I wish you guys continued success. I'll continue to

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<v Speaker 2>be a fan and tell the Brown Ambition fan where

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<v Speaker 2>they can find you outside of Glavity or social media

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<v Speaker 2>and all that kind of stuff.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely. My social media is super simple. It's just Morgan

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<v Speaker 3>to five everywhere on the internet. So Facebook, we'll actually

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<v Speaker 3>don't Facebook for I mean that's weird. Twitter, Instagram, and

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<v Speaker 3>then email, you know, same old stop just Morgan at

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<v Speaker 3>Blaberty dot com. We'll get get you in my box.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, reach out anytime, happy to chat.

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<v Speaker 1>Alike. How areright, guys? Another awesome show, another awesome guest.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so glad you guys were here. I know we

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<v Speaker 4>We will all right, Mandy all right, Tiffany, it's been real.

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<v Speaker 2>It's been real real, have a lovely week, Go out

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<v Speaker 2>and enjoy this weather.