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Speaker 2: It's like the one country music star that like black

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Speaker 1: I don't know, but I just really like Garth because

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Speaker 2: here now. Too early, too early, save it, save it.

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Speaker 2: I got lost. I got so lost on the trains today.

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Speaker 2: Thank you New York City subway system. I appreciate that,

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Speaker 2: Well, I was on my way. So my couple of

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Speaker 2: Yeah. But it was nice. I mean, how many chances

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Speaker 1: I did yesterday, I got a I got an award

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Speaker 1: the Bar? No, Jack and Jill of America. It's like

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Speaker 1: to promote strong black families.

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Speaker 2: I was like, why did you overcome it?

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Speaker 2: Let's talk about some craziness happening in the news this week.

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Speaker 2: Where I was, I was going between two different headlines

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Speaker 1: I'm curious about this Scarlett Johansson. So is she so

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Speaker 2: So much about this has been written. I'm sure it's

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Speaker 2: You know, it's it's the same thing happened with Emma

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Speaker 2: They's still royalty in Hawaii. Did you know that?

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Speaker 2: That's why I spent my money on Big Fat Greek

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Speaker 2: You know, my friend, I should have asked my friend Kevin. So,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, bab you're right, because yeah, you're right. Because what

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Speaker 2: I think it's all for Buzzworthy. We could talk about

433
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Speaker 2: the Nina sim Own movie. You know, I realized we

434
00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:51,720
Speaker 2: haven't talked about that yet.

435
00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:54,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll say that for next week.

436
00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:58,879
Speaker 2: You just like, I'm ruining your happy mood.

437
00:20:59,119 --> 00:20:59,960
Speaker 1: You're supposed to be into.

438
00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:01,760
Speaker 2: Are your happy topics? Do you have any?

439
00:21:03,119 --> 00:21:06,480
Speaker 1: Yeah? And I'm just like, I've just been enjoying the weather.

440
00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:10,560
Speaker 1: So I'm just like, that's not a happy topic. So

441
00:21:10,640 --> 00:21:15,440
Speaker 1: let's let's say let's say that Zoe Saladonna or whatever

442
00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:20,800
Speaker 1: the heck, your last name is Zoe, Zoe, Zoe whatever,

443
00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:24,520
Speaker 1: close enough Sally's and we're gonna save you that dragging

444
00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:26,160
Speaker 1: for next week when I'm in the dragging mood.

445
00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:39,000
Speaker 4: But let's move on to brown breaks.

446
00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:42,520
Speaker 2: What's my brown break gonna be or my brown boost?

447
00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,159
Speaker 2: Do you want to go first? I don't really have one.

448
00:21:45,160 --> 00:21:49,080
Speaker 1: I don't think hmmm, my brown break.

449
00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:53,639
Speaker 2: Positivity, And it can't be your workout routine or taking

450
00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:55,480
Speaker 2: your break from work because that's been your brown boost

451
00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:57,000
Speaker 2: for like five weeks.

452
00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:02,399
Speaker 1: Okay, so the police, all right, so my brown you

453
00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:07,639
Speaker 1: know I'm actually gonna take a brown break from I

454
00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:10,320
Speaker 1: don't know. I feel like so I just got like

455
00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:12,040
Speaker 1: a petticare and a manicure, and you would think that

456
00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:15,439
Speaker 1: like I moved, I, like, you know, cured cancer, when

457
00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:16,959
Speaker 1: I such a big deal that I have to get

458
00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:19,560
Speaker 1: a pedicare in manicure. I mean, like, I mean it's

459
00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:21,680
Speaker 1: not to say I'm like ungroomed. I just usually just

460
00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,159
Speaker 1: cut my nails down and then that's it. But like,

461
00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:25,800
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's such a big deal, Like

462
00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,320
Speaker 1: why is that like boyfriends I've had in the pasta

463
00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:30,600
Speaker 1: like you don't get regular pandicares and manicures. I'm like,

464
00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,159
Speaker 1: I wash my feet, I cut my nails like boyfriends

465
00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:35,800
Speaker 1: said that, Yeah, like you don't get paid. Like like

466
00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:38,840
Speaker 1: I don't know. I've like had boyfriends be like like Tiffany,

467
00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:40,720
Speaker 1: I never see you go get a pedicure of manicure.

468
00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:42,920
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah'm my my feet are fine, Like you know,

469
00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,720
Speaker 1: I don't. I've only I only will do it if

470
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Speaker 1: I'm going away on like a vacation or if I'm

471
00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:49,960
Speaker 1: gonna be in somebody's wedding and I'm like, well let

472
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:52,479
Speaker 1: me get fancy for but on a regular you know.

473
00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,040
Speaker 1: I'm just like I just scrub down my feet in

474
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Speaker 1: my hands and I trim my nails. I just don't see,

475
00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:02,080
Speaker 1: like why, like why is that like a rite of passion?

476
00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:03,480
Speaker 1: I guess it's like, you know, is it the same

477
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,240
Speaker 1: thing like packed underwear? Like it's tack for me to like,

478
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:08,879
Speaker 1: you know, move on to like, but I just don't understand,

479
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:11,160
Speaker 1: Like it's so crazy because I'm like, when did all

480
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:14,280
Speaker 1: my friends start getting regular petticure manicers, even my friends

481
00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:17,199
Speaker 1: who were not like fancy girls or whatever. It's just

482
00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,720
Speaker 1: like girl, I always get my petty and nanny, even

483
00:23:19,760 --> 00:23:21,560
Speaker 1: if it's not like you know, they get tips or whatever.

484
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,040
Speaker 1: And I'm like, really, when did I No one, I didn't.

485
00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:24,520
Speaker 2: Get that memo.

486
00:23:24,760 --> 00:23:26,560
Speaker 1: No one told me to the side in gym class.

487
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:30,320
Speaker 2: I think it's a personal thing. I think so sorry.

488
00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:35,160
Speaker 2: I think it's a personal thing where Actually what's funny

489
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:38,240
Speaker 2: is I also got a Mani petty yesterday. Okay, but

490
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:39,600
Speaker 2: just because I knew the weather was going to be

491
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:41,200
Speaker 2: nice and I just want to treat myself. I was

492
00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,439
Speaker 2: supposed to go to the dentist, but I woke up

493
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 2: and I was like, I'm going to cancel that appointment

494
00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:49,359
Speaker 2: and go get a Manni pettist. Toothache be damned, and

495
00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:53,919
Speaker 2: my two still hurts my feet as so judge me

496
00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:55,600
Speaker 2: as you want. But you know what I think I've

497
00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:58,720
Speaker 2: talked about that before is during the recession, the number

498
00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,560
Speaker 2: of women who spend money on menies and petties like skyrocketed.

499
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:04,200
Speaker 2: And it's because it's sort of a small treat you

500
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 2: can give yourself. It doesn't cost the world. I mean hopefully,

501
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:08,639
Speaker 2: I mean for me, it was like thirty bucks and

502
00:24:08,680 --> 00:24:11,320
Speaker 2: I had two hours of relaxing time at the nail

503
00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,680
Speaker 2: salon and it's just a little treat for yourself. I

504
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 2: don't think it's mandatory, but I think women do it

505
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:17,040
Speaker 2: because it makes them feel nice.

506
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:19,800
Speaker 1: No, but I've actually had people like shake my hand,

507
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:21,359
Speaker 1: like grown women who are kind of like kind of know,

508
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,159
Speaker 1: they're like, ooh girl, you don't get manicures on my geez.

509
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,760
Speaker 1: I judging, I know, very judging, And that's why I

510
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:30,880
Speaker 1: guess that's like kind of like my I don't mind

511
00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:32,680
Speaker 1: a petticare madicr. But I know some people are like,

512
00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,200
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, they like live by because I get

513
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,080
Speaker 1: my eyebrows done and where I get them done is

514
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:40,120
Speaker 1: a petty manny spot, and so I see women in there,

515
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,439
Speaker 1: you know, they go regularly, and I'm just like, I

516
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,920
Speaker 1: don't know, like when I get them done, it's it's cool,

517
00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,000
Speaker 1: but it's not like, oh my gosh, this is my

518
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:51,040
Speaker 1: peaceful time, this is my like you know, wu sah.

519
00:24:51,359 --> 00:24:52,760
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's just kind of like all right,

520
00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 1: they're done, Like I like taking walks, that's my USA.

521
00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:57,719
Speaker 1: So yeah, so I'm just taking a brown break from

522
00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:00,240
Speaker 1: the judgment of I don't get regular and it's a

523
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:01,720
Speaker 1: pays I'm sure if you see me in the street

524
00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:03,160
Speaker 1: to can be looking at my toes in my hands

525
00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:03,960
Speaker 1: and I don't care.

526
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:09,320
Speaker 2: Okay, well, I guess it's kind of a brown boost.

527
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:11,400
Speaker 2: I just want to give a hey for It took

528
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:14,760
Speaker 2: me a long time to master to figure out how

529
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,000
Speaker 2: to use credit cards. No one ever taught me this,

530
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:20,919
Speaker 2: and I fell into the same pitfalls after collars, and

531
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 2: I think a lot of people do. Where I was

532
00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:26,639
Speaker 2: earning like no money when I, you know, lost my

533
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:28,399
Speaker 2: job in New York, and then I was for a

534
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,159
Speaker 2: whole summer just out of work, and I foundally got

535
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,600
Speaker 2: a job that paid me like practically nothing, and I

536
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:34,960
Speaker 2: was starting to lean on my credit card and the limit,

537
00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,159
Speaker 2: thank god, it was really it was low. It was

538
00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:40,119
Speaker 2: something like two thousand dollars. But I would constantly, like

539
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:44,359
Speaker 2: have one thousand, nine hundred and ninety dollars on the card,

540
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:45,920
Speaker 2: and then I would buy lunch, and then I would

541
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 2: pay it down and I'd buy lunch like it was

542
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,120
Speaker 2: max out all the time, and then I would get

543
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,760
Speaker 2: interest fees. And it took me, I don't know, like

544
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,919
Speaker 2: up until three or four years ago to finally understand

545
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:58,720
Speaker 2: how to use credit cards. So I'm really proud of

546
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,480
Speaker 2: where my credit score is now. I've I've I've mastered

547
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 2: the art of giving yourself a budget for your credit

548
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:06,440
Speaker 2: card that is actually what you can afford to pay

549
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,719
Speaker 2: off every month, because I've had friends who've like one

550
00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 2: of my friends told me, hey, Mandy, I you'd be

551
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,119
Speaker 2: so happy I got a new credit card and I already,

552
00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 2: you know, almost maxed it out, and isn't that great.

553
00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:19,320
Speaker 2: I'm like, no, why do you think that's great? He's like, oh, well,

554
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 2: I heard that if you you know, you carry a

555
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 2: balance every month, and that looks great better to credit

556
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:27,400
Speaker 2: credit agencies. And I was like, no, no, honey, who

557
00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:30,919
Speaker 2: need boo boo child? No, Like you put money on

558
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 2: it and you paid off immediately every month, you don't

559
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 2: get charged interest fees. I like to say that, like

560
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,160
Speaker 2: every card is zero percent interest. If you paid off

561
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:41,239
Speaker 2: every month, like they won't charge you fees. That's how

562
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:44,960
Speaker 2: it works. But doing this for like the last three years,

563
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:46,440
Speaker 2: just putting a little bit of money on there, I

564
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 2: put like my cable bill, I put my my cell

565
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 2: phone when I used to pay for that, I put

566
00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:53,880
Speaker 2: it on my phone and I just paid off every

567
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,200
Speaker 2: month it and I figured out exactly what I couldn't

568
00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,160
Speaker 2: afford to pay, and it's working out great. My credit

569
00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:01,879
Speaker 2: scores in the high seven hundred's almost eight hundred. And

570
00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 2: what I'll say about having a high credit score is

571
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 2: it doesn't really matter, like in terms of of day

572
00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 2: to day stuff, like I don't need to have a

573
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,400
Speaker 2: super high credit score. It really only matters when you're

574
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:14,639
Speaker 2: looking for credit or you want to take advantage of

575
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:17,600
Speaker 2: the perks of credit. And last week I had to

576
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:20,479
Speaker 2: put my deposit down on our wedding venue mm hm.

577
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,199
Speaker 2: And this is like, I mean, I'm putting down like

578
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 2: thousands of dollars at one time. And I was like, Okay,

579
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 2: they're gonna charge me a processing fee for using a

580
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 2: credit card, so let me try and find like the sweetest,

581
00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 2: sickest rewards credit card on the market. And I don't really,

582
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't condone signing up for all these

583
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:38,439
Speaker 2: credit cards that have bonus offers, you know how they

584
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 2: are like, oh, if you just spend five thousand dollars

585
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,359
Speaker 2: and three months and we'll give you fifty thousand miles.

586
00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:46,120
Speaker 2: Like I don't think it's right because you get caught

587
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 2: in that trap, you know, are you really gonna spend

588
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,320
Speaker 2: five thousand dollars in the next three months, Like I

589
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:52,719
Speaker 2: probably don't spend that much on an average basis, so

590
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 2: you end up spending money just to get money, which

591
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:59,080
Speaker 2: doesn't always add up. But for this purchase, I knew

592
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:03,440
Speaker 2: with my I was going to qualify for rewards on

593
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,800
Speaker 2: the this one credit cards called the Chase Sapphire Preferred.

594
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 2: It has awesome rewards benefits, and I was like, let

595
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 2: me get this card and put this deposit down, and I,

596
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 2: you know, with approofd for the card, and I put

597
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,159
Speaker 2: the deposit down and I immediately paid it off with

598
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 2: my wedding savings and I got like fifty thousand miles

599
00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:22,680
Speaker 2: which I can use on my honeymoon. It's like over

600
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 2: six hundred dollars and travel rewards that I'll get to

601
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:29,359
Speaker 2: use toward airfare or my hotel for the honeymoon. And

602
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 2: I feel like, I feel like this is something I

603
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,160
Speaker 2: couldn't have done, like three or four years ago, when

604
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,120
Speaker 2: I was had terrible credit and I hadn't figured out

605
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 2: how credit worked at all.

606
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 1: So yeah, I was super smart.

607
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a proud moment, and I paid it off,

608
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 2: and I feel like I feel like I'm like, yeah,

609
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 2: screw you credit company. It's like, I'm not going to

610
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,360
Speaker 2: pay interest and I'm taking my bonus points. So thank

611
00:28:51,400 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 2: you very much, Thank you, Chase. I appreciate it. On

612
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 2: today's show, I'm really excited about today's guest. I've been

613
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 2: wanting to talk to this person for months and months

614
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 2: and months, ever since I interviewed her for a story

615
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:15,000
Speaker 2: on Yahoo back in February. But she was like, I'm

616
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 2: taking a little bit of a media break. Can you

617
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:19,000
Speaker 2: talk to me in April? And so I put a

618
00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,360
Speaker 2: calendar reminder for myself to email her, and I'm really

619
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 2: excited to have her on the show. It's Morgan Debon,

620
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 2: who you may not know, but you may know her company.

621
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 2: It's called blavity dot com and I mean, I'm obsessed

622
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 2: with Blavity. I go to it every day. It's it's

623
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 2: one of the only black media sites. Well it's one

624
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:38,120
Speaker 2: of the newer black media sites that I follow, and

625
00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:41,440
Speaker 2: I think it does a really like a fresh look

626
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,760
Speaker 2: at you know, what people are talking about and what

627
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 2: is buzzing and what's viral in the black millennial space.

628
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 2: So we're joined today by Morgan Debon. Just a little

629
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 2: bit about her. I know exciting, right, So she's at

630
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 2: the tender age of twenty six. She launched Blavity in

631
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 2: two two thousand and four with the co founder Aaron

632
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 2: sam Samuels, after realizing she was she She talks a

633
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 2: little about this later in the show, how black people

634
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 2: at her university in Saint Louis congregated together no matter

635
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 2: where they were, cafeteria, the classroom, We all kind of

636
00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 2: came together. Two years later, she after bootstrapping the company themselves,

637
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 2: Blavity is one of the you know, a fast growing

638
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 2: media company, and Morgan's joining us to talk about how

639
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 2: she launched Blavity, how she's raising capital in a man's

640
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 2: world in Silicon Valley, and about a really exciting venture

641
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,760
Speaker 2: she's launching in May called empower Her and they Empower

642
00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:38,760
Speaker 2: her conference.

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00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,360
Speaker 1: So, without further ado, we present.

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Speaker 2: Morgan Morgan, thank you for joining us.

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Speaker 3: Thanks for having me.

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Speaker 1: Yes more, we have to come up with a new babe,

647
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Speaker 1: new babe, like like a button we can press Mandy.

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Speaker 2: Like a big like a foghorn or something, or.

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Speaker 1: A something that said like new fave. So that way

650
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Speaker 1: people you know are well where it's a new fave.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, one of the first things I do

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Speaker 2: before we even do the podcast is I checked Blavity.

653
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 2: I'm like, what's happening in the world, let me go

654
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 2: check blavity real quick.

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Speaker 3: So writers so quickly, so fast that I'm always like, wait,

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Speaker 3: did that happen? Did we cover that yet?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been done. So tell me tell me about Blavity.

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Speaker 2: When did it start? How did you start Blavity? Where

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Speaker 2: did the concept come from?

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: So you know, I say Blavity started like I don't

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Speaker 3: know seven years ago in my brain. I went to

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Speaker 3: Washington University in Saint Louis for college, and I had

665
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Speaker 3: an amazing experience there with my co founders, Jonathan, Jeff

666
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:46,920
Speaker 3: and Aaron I went to school together. And you know,

667
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Speaker 3: I tell this story a lot, but it's just so true,

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Speaker 3: Like we had this moment every day at the black table.

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Speaker 3: Was it in the cafeteria exactly? And I think a

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Speaker 3: lot of people have similar experiences, regardless of whether you're

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Speaker 3: black or not. I mean, you know, the Korean students

672
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 3: sat together, Hispanic students sat together. It's just kind of

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Speaker 3: what you do, right, And but that moment of like,

674
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Speaker 3: you know, I was the only black person in like

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Speaker 3: an econ class or whatever, and then you go to

676
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Speaker 3: the lunch table and you're like, hey, guys, how's your

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Speaker 3: day going, you know, and it's a mix of people

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Speaker 3: from different classes. You know, we're talking about what the

679
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Speaker 3: outfits did last night at the step show. You're talking

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Speaker 3: about you know, that racist thing that somebody said in class,

681
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Speaker 3: and it's just a great kind of like opportunity to

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Speaker 3: get outside yourself and to embrace the diversity of what

683
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Speaker 3: at that time was college. You know, you have people

684
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Speaker 3: coming from different parts of the world and the country.

685
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Speaker 3: People who grew up in all black communities are people

686
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Speaker 3: who are just now discovering their blackness and stepping into that.

687
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Speaker 3: And those emotions that you go through, you know, those

688
00:32:56,080 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 3: are the emotions and the process that we are developing

689
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Speaker 3: and designing online with Glavity. Right, So people use Glavity

690
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 3: in very different ways. You know, you ask somebody who

691
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Speaker 3: follows us some Instagram, you know, what do you like

692
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Speaker 3: about Blavity, They're going to give you a totally different

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Speaker 3: answer than somebody who life tweets with that song when

694
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 3: we watch scandal, Right, And that's okay, Like, that's how

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Speaker 3: the company is designed.

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Speaker 1: It's designed for.

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Speaker 3: Black millennials in the world and figuring out how we

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Speaker 3: can build shared experiences and build connections with each other.

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Speaker 3: You know, we're starting with content, which is the version

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Speaker 3: of the company that you all see, and you know,

701
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Speaker 3: very quickly moving into other spaces as well to try

702
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Speaker 3: to figure out what our group is in this market.

703
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Speaker 2: So you're question.

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Speaker 1: Man is the interviewer, But I'm like, I got questions.

705
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Speaker 1: Mine is not experience. I just want to know, Like

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Speaker 1: such a cool name, glavity, Like where did that come from?

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Speaker 3: Yes, glavity means black gravity. It's the term that we

708
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 3: used at the black table. So it was like, you know,

709
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Speaker 3: one person sat down, then like three people will sit down.

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Speaker 3: Then all of a sudden, you've got like twenty five

711
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Speaker 3: people on a table that only fits like fifteen, and

712
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Speaker 3: you're like, where did you guys come from? Like didn't

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Speaker 3: you have class on the other side of campus? Like

714
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Speaker 3: how did you get over here so quickly? So it's

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Speaker 3: kind of like the bat signal, but the black signal.

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Speaker 1: So I love that black gravity.

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Speaker 2: I like that it's nice to have a name for it.

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Speaker 2: I never because I feel like it happens everywhere you go,

719
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:27,200
Speaker 2: but it's nice to have like a term for it.

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Speaker 2: I never heard that before before blavity.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you can be able to you can say Glavity's happening.

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Speaker 2: Now, let's talk about it. I mean, I was just

723
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Speaker 2: reading there was an article in Chicago Tribune last week,

724
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Speaker 2: you know, about black business owners and especially black startup owners,

725
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Speaker 2: and how they can sometimes be afraid to market themselves,

726
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Speaker 2: like put their face on the company's website to say

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Speaker 2: this product is made with the intention of serving the

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Speaker 2: black community, because they're afraid that as soon as customers

729
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Speaker 2: and potential investors see that it's owned by, you know,

730
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Speaker 2: owned buy and for black people, that they won't want

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Speaker 2: to take part, contribute invest Is that something that you've

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Speaker 2: confronted or thought about as you're you know, moving forward

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Speaker 2: with glavity.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, I mean I think it's a reality of the

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Speaker 3: world that we live in that every business owner should

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Speaker 3: be at least acknowledging.

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Speaker 1: You know, that doesn't mean you.

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Speaker 3: Have to consider it and how you move in the

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Speaker 3: business world, but you should at least acknowledge that it's

741
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Speaker 3: a reality. And for me, I mean, white people love

742
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Speaker 3: glavity like they love it, and they should because it's

743
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Speaker 3: an authentic point of view that it's unapologetic and consistent,

744
00:35:41,600 --> 00:35:44,880
Speaker 3: and you know, we tell it like it is. And

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Speaker 3: I think a lot of the voices that are able

746
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Speaker 3: to use the platform appreciate that it's a space designed

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Speaker 3: for black people specifically, and so there is no sense

748
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Speaker 3: of explaining, you know, we can use gifts and you know,

749
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Speaker 3: all everything that you guys know of without having to

750
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Speaker 3: worry about how are white people going to like digest

751
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 3: this information on glavity. We don't care. We're not thinking

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Speaker 3: about it.

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Speaker 2: I love that is the money following. What's the reception

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Speaker 2: you've gotten from investors? Are you actively raising capital? And

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Speaker 2: can you talk about that process, because that's sort of

756
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Speaker 2: the ugly side of you know, launching a startup. It's

757
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:30,440
Speaker 2: so competitive, you know, when you're reaching for those investment dollars, it.

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Speaker 3: Is incredibly combetitive, particularly in the media market. And yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean, who isn't always raising? I mean, as a.

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Speaker 1: Startup founder, you always have to be raising, and I mean.

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Speaker 3: It's a challenge. You know, I've been raising quote unquote

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Speaker 3: for since the company launched. In a lot of ways,

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Speaker 3: you know, we don't actively have a note that we're

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Speaker 3: trying to fill. We've already raised around of funding, but

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Speaker 3: you're always in discussions with people trying to get a

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Speaker 3: sense of industry, what the financing market looks like, what

767
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Speaker 3: kind of partners do we need to bring on so

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Speaker 3: that Glavity can get to the next level and scale quickly.

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Speaker 3: And as it relates to the fact that the majority

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Speaker 3: of investors don't look like me, you know, I think

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Speaker 3: what I try to do a lot of my meetings

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Speaker 3: is help them realize how much they have personally been

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Speaker 3: affected by black influences.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 3: So I asked them about, oh, are you big on Twitter?

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Speaker 3: You know, I asked them about are you what are

777
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:32,799
Speaker 3: you listening to right now? Right? What did you watch

778
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Speaker 3: on TV last night?

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Speaker 1: Right?

780
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Speaker 3: And I try to help them see how the market

781
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Speaker 3: is actually incredibly large because the influence of people of color,

782
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Speaker 3: of the DIASCA specifically is huge. Yeah, and it takes

783
00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:48,560
Speaker 3: a little bit, you know, not everybody gets it right

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Speaker 3: off the bet.

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Speaker 1: What's your proudest moment as it relates to Blavity, Like,

786
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Speaker 1: you know, you're proud, it's like, oh my gosh, I

787
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:56,520
Speaker 1: can't believe we're here a moment.

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Speaker 3: Well, right now I'm sitting in our new office and

789
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 3: this is pretty weird.

790
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Speaker 1: That's awesome, It's very cool.

791
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,279
Speaker 3: It's kind of it's in like construction notes, it's kind

792
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 3: of a disaster. But I'm just so proud that we've

793
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:14,040
Speaker 3: been able to get to this place from a financial

794
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:16,719
Speaker 3: perspective that it makes sense and it's good for the

795
00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:19,320
Speaker 3: business for us to actually have a physical location. You know,

796
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Speaker 3: for a while, I thought we were going to be

797
00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:24,080
Speaker 3: a remote company because of the speed of media and

798
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 3: because of you know, you don't necessarily need to be

799
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Speaker 3: face to face for everything, particularly when you're thinking about engineers.

800
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,319
Speaker 3: You know, a lot can be done actually when you've

801
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 3: got engineers on different production cycles and sprints, and same

802
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:41,160
Speaker 3: thing with media, right, having somebody on the East Coast

803
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:45,319
Speaker 3: is actually really important for news cycle and or having

804
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:49,760
Speaker 3: someone in London. So it's it's been an interesting transition

805
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:52,759
Speaker 3: to be like, yes, we have a physical location and

806
00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:55,360
Speaker 3: you know you can come you can come find me

807
00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:56,359
Speaker 3: on any given day.

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Speaker 2: So where are you guys based. You're in California, right.

809
00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:04,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, my first office is actually in la even though

810
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:06,360
Speaker 3: I started the company in San Francisco.

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Speaker 2: Okay, congratulations, Yeah.

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Speaker 1: That's awesome. That is like a very big, like you know,

813
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Speaker 1: it's like when you hire your first employee, Like I

814
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Speaker 1: can't believe.

815
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

816
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Speaker 2: Yeah, when we last, when we last talked, you had

817
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Speaker 2: I got the impression that you were doing this kind

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Speaker 2: of like in the wee hours of the morning after

819
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Speaker 2: work and you were juggling a full time job. Is

820
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Speaker 2: that still the case? What's your what's your schedule? Like

821
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Speaker 2: these days were able to work on blavity full time?

822
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I quit a long time ago. I still work

823
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:38,759
Speaker 3: wee hours in the morning and at night and on weekends,

824
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Speaker 3: but that's just what we do, right, Yeah.

825
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I quit.

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Speaker 3: I can't even remember, like October, not this year, but

827
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Speaker 3: the prior year. So yeah, no more salaries.

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Speaker 2: What was it like to quit your job? When did

829
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Speaker 2: you get to the point where you you knew it

830
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Speaker 2: was time?

831
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a question I get frequently, and there's really

832
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 3: just no good answer. Like, at the end of the day,

833
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:09,799
Speaker 3: I was working on Blavity so much that it was

834
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Speaker 3: emotionally and mentally too tiring to switch back and forth.

835
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Speaker 3: And I was already doing my bear so my bare minimum,

836
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Speaker 3: but I wasn't focused on my day job. And I

837
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:24,239
Speaker 3: think that's okay to some extent, But if I had

838
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Speaker 3: taken it any longer, it would have just been like

839
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Speaker 3: morally not okay with me personally, Like you know, I

840
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 3: didn't go out to happy hour and like let's go

841
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Speaker 3: get a beer. I'm like nah, like I'm good, Like

842
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna go right And after a point, like I

843
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 3: would have I rather even those like six hours that

844
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Speaker 3: those solid six hours that I was working at my

845
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Speaker 3: day job, it was just too much. It was six

846
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Speaker 3: hours that I needed and wanted to be doing something else.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's awesome. I just remember those days. So I

848
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Speaker 1: have a question because I was talking to my entrepreneur

849
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,719
Speaker 1: friends and I most of my really post friends own

850
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,279
Speaker 1: their own businesses. And now we're at I call it

851
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:05,480
Speaker 1: beginning mid level. So you know, the beginning level when

852
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 1: you're like, girl, you got one hundred dollars, look at you,

853
00:41:07,920 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 1: you know, and then you kind of pass the like,

854
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Speaker 1: oh my gosh, you don't have you know, I'm lucky

855
00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,319
Speaker 1: to have enough money to pay my bills. And then

856
00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:18,520
Speaker 1: you enter into mid level where the money's pretty consistent.

857
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:20,839
Speaker 1: You know, you're not worried about bills, but now you're

858
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 1: just trying to like strive to like build just like

859
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 1: that next level company so most of us are in

860
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Speaker 1: that beginning mid level. So I was talking to my

861
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Speaker 1: friend this morning and we were talking about the good,

862
00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 1: the bad, the ugly, and that most entrepreneurs not most,

863
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 1: but many will only share like the good. And so

864
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 1: I would like to ask you that, like, you know,

865
00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:42,319
Speaker 1: just because I know a lot of our listeners are

866
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 1: curious about entrepreneurship or want to become entrepreneurs, can you

867
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:48,720
Speaker 1: tell us, like, you know, one really good thing, one

868
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 1: bad thing, and one ugly thing about like doing what

869
00:41:52,000 --> 00:41:52,319
Speaker 1: you do.

870
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 3: You gotta spend money to make money. That's the first thing.

871
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 3: Is like I'm incredibly cheap and frugal and can not

872
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,479
Speaker 3: anybody on that team, or my boyfriend or my parents

873
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:04,319
Speaker 3: talk with anyone. And I'm like, oh, I don't really

874
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:06,239
Speaker 3: know if it's necessary for us to turn that light

875
00:42:06,280 --> 00:42:10,160
Speaker 3: on right now, but we can perhaps this window.

876
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 1: That's the good of the bad. That's the bad thing.

877
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:15,120
Speaker 3: I think it's bad in a lot of ways, at

878
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:17,160
Speaker 3: least in a company that I'm building, Like I think

879
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 3: it was great in the beginning because we're bootstrapping and

880
00:42:19,719 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 3: so everything be mattered, But now that we have a

881
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:27,280
Speaker 3: little bit of capital, like you're racing against the clock

882
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:29,359
Speaker 3: in a lot of ways, particularly when it comes to

883
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:34,840
Speaker 3: a media company where scale is key, right, So you

884
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 3: have to spend money to make money. Does it make

885
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 3: more sense to spend five thousand dollars in Facebook ads

886
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:45,240
Speaker 3: today as opposed to spending one thousand dollars a month

887
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 3: for five months? Okay, right, because you're going to get

888
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 3: the same results, the same conversion rate. So what's the

889
00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:54,879
Speaker 3: benefit of having you know, ten thousand to twenty five

890
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,759
Speaker 3: thousand more likes now than it would be to have

891
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 3: you know, two to three thousand more likes month over

892
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 3: five months. Those are the equations and the things that

893
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 3: we're thinking about right now, and it's it's been a

894
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,000
Speaker 3: mental shift for me to say, like, actually, it makes

895
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 3: more sense for us it's been that five thousand dollars

896
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 3: all at once right now than it does for us

897
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 3: to spread it out over time, because now, you know,

898
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 3: the bigger we are today, the more that I can sell,

899
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 3: the more that I can connect with people, the more

900
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 3: that we can get them into the Blavity family, as

901
00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 3: opposed to waiting.

902
00:43:26,320 --> 00:43:28,359
Speaker 1: So that's the bad. So what's the good and what's

903
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:28,840
Speaker 1: the ugly?

904
00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:33,000
Speaker 3: I mean, the good is like you get to wake

905
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,560
Speaker 3: up every day and do what you want, you know.

906
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 3: I mean there's obviously pressures involved, but I feel completely

907
00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:43,120
Speaker 3: blessed and honored, and I pinch myself frequently that like

908
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:46,879
Speaker 3: I can wake up and say, you know, today I'm

909
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:50,839
Speaker 3: going to send out an Instagram question about seeing the

910
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 3: dopest like web series creators in Brooklyn, you know, and

911
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:57,360
Speaker 3: find like thirteen people I've never even heard of before,

912
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:00,320
Speaker 3: and then like talk to them and potentially help them

913
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 3: use the blavity audience to accomplish their goals. Like that's amazing.

914
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 3: And the ugly with that specifically or in general, no,

915
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 3: in general.

916
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 1: The ugly is it relates to your business.

917
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 3: I mean, the ugly is like I'm I'm ten thounds

918
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:21,320
Speaker 3: overweight right now. I'm not cute. I'm five feet for

919
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:25,239
Speaker 3: people that don't know, I'm incredibly petite and carvey, and

920
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:27,560
Speaker 3: so ten pounds like matters?

921
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 2: Is it? Like a happy weight?

922
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:29,520
Speaker 5: Is it?

923
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 2: Because the business is going good.

924
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 3: It looks cute, like it's okay, But I prefer not

925
00:44:34,760 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 3: to be overweight. And the ugly is that, you know,

926
00:44:40,200 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 3: I'm working hard, and everybody is working hard, and it's

927
00:44:44,480 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 3: not easy to always take care of yourself first. You know,

928
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:48,840
Speaker 3: you want to put the business first. You want to

929
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 3: put your teammates first, you want to put your investors first,

930
00:44:51,680 --> 00:44:54,439
Speaker 3: you want to put your users, you know, absolutely first. Right,

931
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:59,680
Speaker 3: So to make the decision at times to like go

932
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:02,920
Speaker 3: on that extra walk instead of just having it delivered

933
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:07,919
Speaker 3: to you, the food whatever, Like, it's not easy. It's

934
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:11,440
Speaker 3: something that I'm currently trying to work on. But for

935
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:13,399
Speaker 3: the first year, Like, I don't think that I could

936
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 3: have been as productive if I was like I'm going

937
00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 3: to work out for an hour every day, Like no,

938
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 3: like I need to email people, you know, but you

939
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:26,000
Speaker 3: know there's an intended consequence with those decisions.

940
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:28,799
Speaker 2: What is your schedule? Like walk us through a normal.

941
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 3: Day depends on a coast time on if I'm on

942
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,879
Speaker 3: the West Coast, I wake up feeling behind a little

943
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:38,640
Speaker 3: bit because everything's already happened. So I usually wake up

944
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:41,879
Speaker 3: around six five thirty just to check to see what's

945
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:44,800
Speaker 3: viral on the site if anything. If there's nothing viral,

946
00:45:45,000 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 3: then I usually send off a few Slack messages to

947
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:50,720
Speaker 3: our team, like or check to see what's going on

948
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 3: with our news team, like what are you guys writing

949
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 3: or are the headlines does something any sense. If everything's

950
00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 3: good and we're viral, I go back to sleep hour

951
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 3: and a half and then I start I just start

952
00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:08,879
Speaker 3: knocking out emails. Depending on the day, I usually block

953
00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:12,160
Speaker 3: off like big blocks of time for projects. So for example,

954
00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 3: Mondays are my one on ones. I have one on

955
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 3: ones with everybody on our leadership team and my direct reports.

956
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 3: And then you know, Tuesdays are engineering, so I spend

957
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:28,759
Speaker 3: the morning thinking about features and writing up user stories

958
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:32,359
Speaker 3: and designs things like that. So it depends on the day,

959
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 3: but I try to do a block of emails and

960
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 3: then a block of project and then usually it's the

961
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 3: rest is just beatings.

962
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 2: Do you have an unplugged time? You know, I talked

963
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:44,480
Speaker 2: with Arianna Huffington. She's all about the sleep and the unplugging.

964
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 2: But when you work for a digital media company, like

965
00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:49,080
Speaker 2: when do you have time to unplug?

966
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I unplug on Saturdays. Our traffic also shows that

967
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:59,880
Speaker 3: we unplug on Saturdays at this company. But yeah, Saturdays

968
00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 3: are usually my like let's go for brunch day, you know,

969
00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 3: let's go frolic in the sand at the beach, right,

970
00:47:06,719 --> 00:47:09,920
Speaker 3: and then at night I tend to unplug, you know,

971
00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 3: after like eight point thirty nine, and that she's kind

972
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 3: of like personal me time. You know, I still might

973
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 3: wind up doing catching up on some work, but it's

974
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 3: usually nothing that's related to anybody else. It's usually just

975
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:24,360
Speaker 3: something I want to think through or work on.

976
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:28,719
Speaker 1: Wow, you're like speaking to my life right now. I'm like,

977
00:47:28,719 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, Like, do you have like a I

978
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 1: So my best friend has a public relations company and

979
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:38,360
Speaker 1: we started at the same time, and she's like my

980
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 1: talk me off the ledge partner. You know, when you're

981
00:47:41,080 --> 00:47:43,800
Speaker 1: just like I'm done with this, I'm leaving, I'm running away,

982
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:47,400
Speaker 1: no one will find me. So when I'm like I

983
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:49,800
Speaker 1: need literally when your toes are at the edge of

984
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 1: the ledge and you're ready to jump. So she's like

985
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:54,239
Speaker 1: the person that I call because she's an entrepreneur as well.

986
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:55,839
Speaker 1: So I'm like, I need you to talk me off

987
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 1: the ledge, and she would slowly talk me to backing

988
00:47:58,040 --> 00:47:59,960
Speaker 1: up and realizing how much I love what I do.

989
00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 1: But do you have like you're talking off the ledge partner?

990
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I have, you know, three co founders.

991
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 3: So that helps because when I'm not feeling it and

992
00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 3: I'm like everybody, y'all are all crazy I'm good. You know,

993
00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 3: I'll call up Jeff. Usually Jeff is our CTO, and

994
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 3: I've known Jeff the longest, like barely the longest by

995
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:25,560
Speaker 3: a few months, but and I'm like, Jeff, help me

996
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:28,759
Speaker 3: think through why this is bothering me, because usually there's

997
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 3: a reason why something gets me to the point where

998
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:34,400
Speaker 3: i'mum the ledge right, like there's something mentally that I

999
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:38,319
Speaker 3: can't work through, or I'm upset about something that I

1000
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:42,160
Speaker 3: don't know why that requires me to reach that level.

1001
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:44,960
Speaker 3: And he's just really great asking questions, kind of like

1002
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 3: a therapist. I mean usually get to it after like

1003
00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 3: a day or so or you know, an hour conversation.

1004
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:54,520
Speaker 3: So he's he's one when it comes to like business things.

1005
00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:58,080
Speaker 3: And then you know, my girlfriends from college I'm very

1006
00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 3: close with, and so I'll email one of them, I'm

1007
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:02,799
Speaker 3: or text men we have like a group text and

1008
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 3: I'll be like, hey, so this is not going well

1009
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:09,960
Speaker 3: and I don't know what to do. And usually they'll

1010
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:12,880
Speaker 3: remind me of like random things happening to me and

1011
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 3: me mar Chiff or something. I think it's great for

1012
00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 3: any entrepreneur to, like one have people that understand the

1013
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:23,960
Speaker 3: process that you're going through from a business perspective, because

1014
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:26,320
Speaker 3: that's really helpful, and then too to I'll talk to

1015
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:29,360
Speaker 3: people who have like no idea what's going on. You know,

1016
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:30,920
Speaker 3: one of my friends is in med school, so it's

1017
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:33,840
Speaker 3: great talking to her because her reality is just so

1018
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:38,320
Speaker 3: different than mine and her challenges are just very different

1019
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 3: than mine, and so we can unplug mentally by involving

1020
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:45,480
Speaker 3: ourselves in each other's worlds.

1021
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 1: Awesome advice.

1022
00:49:48,760 --> 00:49:50,440
Speaker 2: One of the things that was really funny that you

1023
00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 2: mentioned is that when you were and I did the

1024
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 2: same thing. Actually when I was in school when I

1025
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:57,839
Speaker 2: was younger, is you started your own little kool aid

1026
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:00,239
Speaker 2: selling business, like on the side and the lunch room.

1027
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 2: Is that right now?

1028
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 3: Absolutely?

1029
00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:04,279
Speaker 2: Talk about like where did you get the You say

1030
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:06,920
Speaker 2: you have an entrepreneurial spirit, but who's been your biggest

1031
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:09,320
Speaker 2: influence in that? In that way, because not all of

1032
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 2: us grow up saying I'm going to launch a company.

1033
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 3: You know, I have to credit my parents, And I.

1034
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 5: Don't even know if they like knew that they created

1035
00:50:19,160 --> 00:50:24,600
Speaker 5: like me this way, but they did, Like my dad

1036
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:27,759
Speaker 5: and my mom and dad have been together since they

1037
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:29,439
Speaker 5: were they've known each other since high school.

1038
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:33,800
Speaker 3: Being together since college, and they are just awesome people.

1039
00:50:34,520 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 3: My dad's a doctor and a researcher, so he's always

1040
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:41,680
Speaker 3: writing grants, which is like such a hospital mentality, right,

1041
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 3: Like you don't just you get to use the money

1042
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:48,120
Speaker 3: to fund your research, but you have to, you know,

1043
00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:51,759
Speaker 3: justify it and have a budget and write these intense

1044
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:56,439
Speaker 3: documents with scientific backing. My mother is was a stay

1045
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:59,880
Speaker 3: at home mom, and she was all about creativity and

1046
00:51:00,239 --> 00:51:02,799
Speaker 3: teaching me to be my own person. And you know,

1047
00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:06,239
Speaker 3: so I was always in art classes and you know,

1048
00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 3: I did taekwondo, I did feel nacky. I was, you know,

1049
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:15,320
Speaker 3: your typical middle income black girl, right, just like thriving,

1050
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:17,560
Speaker 3: but also had a lot of issues as well socially.

1051
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 2: And do people know what that is? Because I feel

1052
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:24,399
Speaker 2: like you don't see the typical middle income black girl

1053
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:27,360
Speaker 2: so much. Do I feel that way in media? You

1054
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:29,960
Speaker 2: really don't like especially know.

1055
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:32,080
Speaker 3: What that means. I don't know it means it's kind

1056
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:34,040
Speaker 3: of spoiled, but like not too spoiled, because I.

1057
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:35,919
Speaker 2: Know what it means. I just don't feel like it's

1058
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:38,520
Speaker 2: like represented so much in media as much as it

1059
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:41,360
Speaker 2: probably should be, where it's like that's normal, but for

1060
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:43,759
Speaker 2: people who you know don't see that in everyday life.

1061
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 3: It's like what it's like Girlfriends. It's like the TV

1062
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 3: show Girlfriends, you know, like we need a more dramatized

1063
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:54,759
Speaker 3: version of myself and lived in New York, Like I

1064
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:58,200
Speaker 3: probably be like the girlfriend show.

1065
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 2: You feel about what's your favorite show on TV right now?

1066
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:05,800
Speaker 3: I don't watch Blackish, which I know is unpopular with

1067
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:08,239
Speaker 3: black opinion, but I don't I neither do.

1068
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:10,799
Speaker 2: I for a reason or just because you don't have

1069
00:52:10,840 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 2: time or it's.

1070
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 3: Not feeling it. No, I watch TV. I watch a

1071
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:16,600
Speaker 3: lot of TV. I'm not feeling it, Like it's just

1072
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:18,799
Speaker 3: not I don't think I'm the target demographic. Like I

1073
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 3: don't have kids, so I don't need like a family

1074
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Speaker 3: friendly show, and I don't really find them all funny.

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Speaker 3: Like I love them all as individual actors and actresses

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Speaker 3: and I support their careers, but the show just doesn't

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Speaker 3: really appeal to me. What shows do I like? I mean,

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Speaker 3: I'm a huge Netflix person, so you know, I don't

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Speaker 3: know what do you guys think? Do you guys consider

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Speaker 3: Netflix like real TV or do you consider it in

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Speaker 3: this like hybrid world At this point.

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Speaker 1: I think that honestly, I don't really watch TV much,

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Speaker 1: and so I'm really like a YouTube like Netflix, stream

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Speaker 1: online type of girl. You know, I'm not loyal to

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Speaker 1: like ooh every night. I feel like, I mean, my

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Speaker 1: boyfriend does that, but I feel like it's so old school.

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Speaker 1: You're like, I've got to sit down on thursday'st but

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Speaker 1: I don't know what I'm going to be doing on Thursdays,

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Speaker 1: so I need to be able to watch one I

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Speaker 1: want to watch, you know, right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm the same way. I don't have a television.

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Speaker 3: I haven't had a television in years.

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Speaker 2: Well really, since you admitted you don't like Blackish, I'll

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Speaker 2: admit that I'm done with Scandal. I'm gone.

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Speaker 1: I've been done with Scandal. I checked out after season two.

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Speaker 1: I was like, I can't. I just I need, I

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Speaker 1: need to get my life back.

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Speaker 3: I watch it in solidarity. I don't watch it in

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Speaker 3: real time, but I'll watch it like passively.

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Speaker 1: It's one of those things.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of shows that I'll watch passively where

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Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm going to work on this car point

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Speaker 3: deck and like place can't watch Scandal play Scandal on

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Speaker 3: the background.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, even though you may not like all

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Speaker 2: these you know, we all have our own individual taste.

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Speaker 2: You guys have a really good I mean not blavity.

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Speaker 2: I feel like whenever you go, it's a pretty good

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Speaker 2: mix of pop culture with more newer, newsier things. What

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Speaker 2: sort of like balance do you try to strike with

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Speaker 2: your content and what have been some stories that have

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Speaker 2: done the you know, done amazingly well for you with

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Speaker 2: your audience.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's interesting the ebbs and flows based off of

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Speaker 3: what's happening in the world. So, like you know, last fall,

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Speaker 3: we spent a lot of time thinking about Ferguson and

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Speaker 3: Black Lives Matter and how do we elevate voices of activists,

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Speaker 3: local activists that are doing the work and maybe haven't

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Speaker 3: reached the media level that they deserve, right, So we

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Speaker 3: spent a lot of time doing doing work with that.

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Speaker 3: I even remember the college students at the Zoo and

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Speaker 3: Yale and you see Berkeley, and so we spent a

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Speaker 3: lot of time reaching out to those students and saying, hey,

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Speaker 3: you know, if you have a point of view and

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Speaker 3: you want to share it, feel pretty as lavvy will

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Speaker 3: help you write it, et cetera, et cetera. So those

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Speaker 3: stories did really well, and then when Beyonce and Kendrick

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Speaker 3: went ham during Black History Month, you know that would

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Speaker 3: so it really I mean, the beauty of Blavity is

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Speaker 3: that it's not necessarily about having a strict editorial content

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Speaker 3: theme per month, or per week or per day. It's

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Speaker 3: really a reflection of whatever is going on. And that's

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Speaker 3: why we stay relevant because we have so much user

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Speaker 3: generated content. So when something is happening, it's going to

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Speaker 3: be elevated on the website and on the platform. And

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Speaker 3: we'll continue to do that because that's the only way

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Speaker 3: I think a media company can work at this point.

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Speaker 3: It can't be a top scout approach. It has to

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Speaker 3: be Okay, something's happening in Detroit. Let's not just send

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Speaker 3: like investigative, not investigative, investigatory reporters to Detroit. Now, why

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Speaker 3: don't we talk to the person who's been there forever,

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Speaker 3: put a camera in their hands and ask them what

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Speaker 3: they think and ask them to submit something. So, yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's the way I approach it, and those are the

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Speaker 3: stories that do well.

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Speaker 2: Now empower her. I'm really excited about this. So this

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Speaker 2: is a conference you're launching or has it been around for?

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Speaker 2: Is it first year? This year or has it been

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Speaker 2: around for a while?

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Speaker 3: First year?

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Speaker 2: This year, first year really exciting. So talk about empower

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Speaker 2: Her and how people can get involved with that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so this is like my baby right now. So

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Speaker 3: empower Her is our first Glavity conference, and it's a

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Speaker 3: conference for black millennial women targeted mostly at women who

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Speaker 3: are in the creative or technology industry. So folks who

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Speaker 3: are influencers on YouTube, working on getting their startup off

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Speaker 3: the ground, starting their own businesses, or thinking about making

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Speaker 3: a career switch where they maybe worked in a midy

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Speaker 3: like mid level at a corporate company, you know, they

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Speaker 3: work for Bane or Deloitte or whatever, and they want

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Speaker 3: to get into a different industry. And empower Her is

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Speaker 3: all about helping these women and us realize our potential

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Speaker 3: and get to the next step. So it's about networking,

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Speaker 3: it's about inspiration, and it's about coming away with like

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Speaker 3: really tangible tips and tools on how to get to

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Speaker 3: the next step. And that has to do with visioning exercises,

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Speaker 3: hearing people's stories about how they have started their business

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Speaker 3: and gotten to the next step. So we've brought an

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Speaker 3: amazing group of women together. Levy Meta, Hey Frien, Hey,

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Speaker 3: Avida from the Madness Tribe, Kalichi from Zuva amazing e

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Speaker 3: commerce website, Lenora Champagne who is a venture capitalist at

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Speaker 3: six or five Ventures and just wrote a book. I mean,

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Speaker 3: we just have some amazing lineup, Like the list goes

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Speaker 3: on of women who are speaking and sharing their stories.

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Speaker 3: So that's a little bit about the conference. And it's

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Speaker 3: in New York. It's May twenty. First people were a

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Speaker 3: little sticker shocked at the price, but people have to live.

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Speaker 3: It's in New York, and think about the women I

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Speaker 3: just named. We got to get them there, right.

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Speaker 2: And what is how do you get involved? You have

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Speaker 2: to have a business to come and participate.

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Speaker 3: No, you just there's there's no requirements beyond you have

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Speaker 3: to just buy a ticket. And so it's all day

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Speaker 3: with each breakfast and lunch and we have a little

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Speaker 3: happy hour at night. And you just sign up on

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Speaker 3: an event. Right, it's on our website and the homepage

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Speaker 3: and it's all over our social media.

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Speaker 2: Gotcha, And it's okay, what's the what's the website where

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Speaker 2: they can find out more? And I'll include a link

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Speaker 2: to in the in the blog.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's empower for dot lavity, dot com.

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Speaker 1: Perfect so we have some of my faths on face

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Speaker 1: Like I talked to Alvida and Lovey and just like

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Speaker 1: bouncing step off of them. There's there's some of my

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Speaker 1: like just entrepreneur French, what were like, huh so they're amazing?

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Speaker 3: Are lare an astron blackgiron Ome that's like my favorite

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Speaker 3: Instagram accounts right now, just so many awesome Gabby Fresh,

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Speaker 3: I mean, she's like blown up in the last two years.

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Speaker 3: Just got to split a suit line somewhere line. It's amazing. So,

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Speaker 3: I mean I'm looking forward to it. Like I was like,

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Speaker 3: if I didn't, what kind of event can we plan that?

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Speaker 3: If I wasn't planning it, I would still go. Like

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Speaker 3: that's what we always try to think of, was like,

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Speaker 3: if you weren't the one doing this, would you still

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Speaker 3: read this article or would you still go to this event?

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Speaker 2: Why do you think now is the time for an

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Speaker 2: event like this? I mean, it's an obvious reason why

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Speaker 2: you want to, you know, target an event toward black

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Speaker 2: millennial women. But are what are some of the like

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Speaker 2: why now? Why this year?

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Speaker 1: You know?

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Speaker 3: I think that's a good question. I guess a little

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Speaker 3: bit to share about my personal journey, like I was,

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Speaker 3: I don't know, never really like encouraged to be as

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Speaker 3: ambitious as I've been, and that I am. You know,

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Speaker 3: there's always a reason why it didn't make sense for

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Speaker 3: me to to do something, whether that was to go

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Speaker 3: to wash you or to run for student body president

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Speaker 3: as a sophomore micro sophomore year in college, or to

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Speaker 3: start Blavity without an MBA or without having raised capital

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Speaker 3: before or ever working at a startup before. There's always

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Speaker 3: a reason why you shouldn't do something, and I think

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Speaker 3: for Black women that list is always very long, given

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Speaker 3: the statistics, And I wanted to create a space selfishly

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Speaker 3: for myself to be affirmed by like awesome women who

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Speaker 3: are doing these things and where it's normalized, where it's

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Speaker 3: not an anomaly, and you're surrounded by excellence, and you're

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Speaker 3: surrounded by women who are energized by the possibilities of

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Speaker 3: staff instead of the constant negativity and the constant reminder

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Speaker 3: of why we aren't supposed to be as successful as

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Speaker 3: we are. So in spite of all these things, we're amazing.

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Speaker 3: We're the fastest growing population of women of entrepreneurs is

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Speaker 3: Black women. We are the most some of the most

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Speaker 3: educated people in this country, huge influence in terms of

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Speaker 3: change in politics and education reform. I mean I literally

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Speaker 3: I could keep going, and so to me, it's a

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Speaker 3: space that needed to be created and I didn't see

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Speaker 3: it anywhere else, particularly for women our age. You know,

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Speaker 3: I think Essence says an amazing job with Essence Music Festival.

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Speaker 3: I went last year. We're going again this year with

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Speaker 3: the Glavity House, but we wanted to do a more

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Speaker 3: professional take on how can we bring people together and

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Speaker 3: inspire these moments of like self fulfillment in a lot

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Speaker 3: of ways.

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Speaker 2: Sounds like Brown Ambition to me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm so excited for you and for the conference,

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Speaker 2: and I wish you guys continued success. I'll continue to

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Speaker 2: be a fan and tell the Brown Ambition fan where

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Speaker 2: they can find you outside of Glavity or social media

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Speaker 2: and all that kind of stuff.

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely. My social media is super simple. It's just Morgan

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Speaker 3: to five everywhere on the internet. So Facebook, we'll actually

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Speaker 3: don't Facebook for I mean that's weird. Twitter, Instagram, and

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Speaker 3: then email, you know, same old stop just Morgan at

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Speaker 3: Blaberty dot com. We'll get get you in my box.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, reach out anytime, happy to chat.

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Speaker 1: Alike. How areright, guys? Another awesome show, another awesome guest.

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Speaker 1: I'm so glad you guys were here. I know we

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Speaker 1: have a bunch of new listeners, dreamcatchers. We welcome you.

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Speaker 1: If you'd like to connect with us outside of the podcast,

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Speaker 1: you can tweet us at the BA Podcast on Twitter

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01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:54,320
Speaker 1: and we're also on Facebook, Brown Ambition, and our email

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Speaker 1: is If you have any questions, you can definitely send

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Speaker 1: them over. You want to send some praise, some high five,

1268
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:02,360
Speaker 1: some we love you Mandy and tiffany emails, you could

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Speaker 1: pertably send them.

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Speaker 2: At Brown Invasion Podcast at gmail dot com.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna remember that one day. I'm gonna remember that.

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Speaker 2: No, we're really excited to have you guys on it.

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Speaker 2: And as we say every week, please leave us a

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Speaker 2: review on iTunes. It helps people find us, It raises

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Speaker 2: us in the ranks on iTunes, and we are just

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Speaker 2: a little podcast that could totally grassroots and we could

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01:03:28,680 --> 01:03:30,680
Speaker 2: use all the sport we can get, So please leave

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Speaker 2: a review. Just take two seconds on iTunes. You will

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Speaker 2: be your We'll just love you to death. We'll give

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Speaker 2: you a shout out.

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Speaker 4: We will all right, Mandy all right, Tiffany, it's been real.

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Speaker 2: It's been real real, have a lovely week, Go out

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Speaker 2: and enjoy this weather.