1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:04,360 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. 3 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:09,040 Speaker 2: Congratulations to the Oklahoma City Thunder, the best regular season team, 4 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 2: the best postseason team. But the Pacers held on for 5 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:16,239 Speaker 2: dear life. They pushed it to seven games, but the 6 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 2: Tyres Haliburton injury was tough to overcome. 7 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 3: We talked about it when he injured. 8 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:25,640 Speaker 2: His calf, and you'll see this that the calf injury 9 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:28,200 Speaker 2: and the possibility of an achilles injury. 10 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:30,160 Speaker 3: We talked about that last week. 11 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:33,760 Speaker 2: Unfortunately it came to fruition and you couldn't help but 12 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 2: think of Kevin Durant when he got off to a 13 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 2: hot start and then he blew out his achilles a 14 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:42,919 Speaker 2: few years ago. But Tyrese Haliburton will remember an incredible 15 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 2: postseason run. Also, Shay gilgis Alexander not many. This is 16 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 2: rarefied air. When you put him in there with Michael 17 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 2: and Shack. When you're going to be the regular season 18 00:00:53,960 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 2: MVP scoring champ, you're going to win an NBA title 19 00:00:57,200 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 2: Finals MVP, and he did it in an effortless way. 20 00:01:01,560 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 2: He did it in an old school way. Now I 21 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 2: say old school because he doesn't rely on the three 22 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 2: point shot. He'll beach off the dribble. He's capable of 23 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 2: scoring on three different levels, but he was efficiently brilliant 24 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:17,479 Speaker 2: in the NBA Finals. We'll get to your phone calls, 25 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 2: best and worst of the weekend, What you saw that 26 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:21,759 Speaker 2: you liked you didn't like? Eight seven to seven three 27 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 2: dpiece show email address Dpatdanpatrick dot com, Twitter handle a 28 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 2: TP show. Chris Mannix from Sports Illustrated will join us 29 00:01:29,200 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 2: from Oklahoma City, Gilbert Arena's former NBA All Star. 30 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 3: We'll join us. 31 00:01:33,200 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 2: We'll talk about the Kevin Durant trade that happened yesterday. 32 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 3: We have a play the day poll question. 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The way tire buying should be 42 00:02:06,640 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 2: all right, Seaton Pole. 43 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 4: Question for hour one is going to be what well, 44 00:02:10,520 --> 00:02:13,679 Speaker 4: I've got something that could be considered a sign of 45 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 4: the apocalypse or just very bad news for two people here. Okay, 46 00:02:18,440 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 4: Paul and Todd have both submitted the same pole question. O, man, 47 00:02:24,040 --> 00:02:25,360 Speaker 4: what happened to Paul? 48 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:26,040 Speaker 3: That's right? 49 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:28,600 Speaker 4: Is Todd coming up? Or is Paul going down? I 50 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 4: can't really tell. 51 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:35,200 Speaker 2: What's the possibility of both questions being good? 52 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 4: That's for you to decide. All right, the NBA Finals 53 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 4: was memorable for dot dot dot. 54 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 5: Uh. 55 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:49,640 Speaker 4: Well, let's see Paul's options. Where the first title of 56 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 4: this young OKC team, SGA cementing himself as a superstar, 57 00:02:56,360 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 4: piecers fight Halliburton's injury or nothing or nothing yes, Todd's 58 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:10,520 Speaker 4: suggestions where the sitter the Oklahoma City winning their first 59 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 4: ever title, SGA being named the MVP, Halliburton's injury, or 60 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:17,920 Speaker 4: Kevin Durant getting traded to this from the Suns to 61 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 4: the Rockets. 62 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 2: Hmm, with no local ties. I would say tyrese Haliburton's injury. 63 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:33,519 Speaker 2: I think his playoff performance leading into the NBA Finals 64 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 2: and he gave them hope. SGA was you know, brilliant, 65 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 2: and he also had a you know, a Game seven 66 00:03:43,160 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 2: that we haven't had in a long time, you know, 67 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 2: twenty nine and twelve assists. First player to reach those 68 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 2: numbers in game seven of an NBA Finals you have 69 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 2: to go back to nineteen seventy when Wald Fraser went 70 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:59,440 Speaker 2: for thirty six and nineteen. I just think the injury 71 00:03:59,480 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 2: with hallib because of all the big shots that he 72 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 2: had leading into the finals, that he gave them hope 73 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 2: and hope went down and didn't get back up last night. 74 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 2: So I would say in ten years from now, let's 75 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 2: let's put it that way. How about we put a 76 00:04:15,600 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 2: window on this. Ten years from now, when we look 77 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:24,479 Speaker 2: back on this year's NBA Finals, it's probably going to 78 00:04:24,520 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 2: be Tyrese Haliburton will remember because of the injury, how 79 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 2: they had played. They forced a game seven. Okay, see 80 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:37,479 Speaker 2: was the best team. But I think I think what 81 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 2: the Pacers did created more headline conversation than what Oklahoma 82 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 2: City did. 83 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 4: Yes, I think how we remember this finals is dependent 84 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:51,400 Speaker 4: on how both of these teams do the next three years. 85 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:55,960 Speaker 4: If we go right back to after after this year, 86 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 4: If next year we go back to some sort of 87 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 4: like return cycle of you know, Warriors, Lakers, Celtics, uh, 88 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 4: you know, whoever win, then don't I don't know what 89 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:09,560 Speaker 4: we're going to really remember from this one. But if 90 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 4: if the Pacers go on to be greater, the thunder 91 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:13,520 Speaker 4: going to keep being greater, it's going to shape how 92 00:05:13,560 --> 00:05:14,520 Speaker 4: this one is remembered. 93 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 2: But also keep in mind Tyree's Haliburton will probably be 94 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 2: out all next year, so you know his impact is 95 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:25,200 Speaker 2: going to be felt next year because he won't be 96 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 2: able to play. Jason Tatum not able to play for 97 00:05:28,560 --> 00:05:32,840 Speaker 2: the Celtics next year probably not, so factor those in 98 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 2: and how that shapes the East because the East is 99 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 2: really really wide open now, and we don't even know 100 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 2: if Jannis is going to stay in Milwaukee, like all 101 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:50,159 Speaker 2: of a sudden, Orlando, the Cavaliers, obviously Garland's having toe surgery, 102 00:05:50,240 --> 00:05:53,719 Speaker 2: but they would be the favorites. The Knicks, you know, 103 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 2: once again, would be in the in the in the 104 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 2: conversation there. But if you don't have Tatum and you 105 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 2: don't have Hallow, and those are the best players on 106 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:06,919 Speaker 2: the on the best teams right now, east is wide open. 107 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:11,479 Speaker 2: That's where Yannis might go. Maybe can you help me 108 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 2: out a little bit here, can you give me something 109 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:17,640 Speaker 2: here in Milwaukee. But we'll talk to Chris Mannix about 110 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 2: this because I think Mannix gets the feeling that Jannis, 111 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 2: if he's going anywhere, would end up in San Antonio. 112 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:28,359 Speaker 2: But Kevin Durant ending up with Houston. You know that 113 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 2: Cleveland was in this. I'm told at the last minute, 114 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 2: like there were teams going, hey, we know you got 115 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 2: to trade him. What's it going to take? And I 116 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 2: think the Knicks made another run out. Everybody was kind 117 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 2: of like circling it was. It was a open secret 118 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 2: that Durant was going to be traded, and the question 119 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:49,039 Speaker 2: was where's he going to be traded? And it was 120 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:51,360 Speaker 2: going to be this week because the draft is coming 121 00:06:51,440 --> 00:06:52,479 Speaker 2: up on Wednesday night. 122 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:53,840 Speaker 3: But we'll talk about that. 123 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 2: With Durant being traded and Houston I thought did pretty well. 124 00:06:58,240 --> 00:06:58,440 Speaker 6: Here. 125 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 2: You can look at the draft pick. I don't look 126 00:07:00,640 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 2: at the draft picks the way I used to because 127 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 2: it just feels like, eh, and we'll give you a 128 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 2: I don't know how many second round picks you want? 129 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 2: You want four, you want five, go ahead, take whatever 130 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 2: you want. And Jalen Green, it's weird to be what 131 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 2: is he twenty three? And he averaged you know, over 132 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:17,640 Speaker 2: I think he might have averaged twenty three points a game. 133 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 2: He didn't do well in the postseason, and I think 134 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 2: there was concern with Houston that maybe he is not 135 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 2: that number one guy. Phoenix Suns are a mess. They 136 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 2: really are, and they you know, it's not just one year. 137 00:07:32,160 --> 00:07:35,360 Speaker 2: I mean they've been consistent in being a mess because 138 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 2: you get Bradley Beal. I can only warn these owners 139 00:07:40,560 --> 00:07:42,960 Speaker 2: in GMS so often. If they're not going to listen 140 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 2: to me, then it's on them. Get a new owner. 141 00:07:45,880 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 2: Matt Ishbia, former walk on at Michigan State. All of 142 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 2: a sudden, you start making decisions. You bring in Durant. 143 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 2: You gave up a lot to get durand Devin Booker. 144 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 2: I don't are you building around Devin Booker? Like it 145 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 2: feels like who is anybody going to pass the ball 146 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 2: on that team? Bradley Beal, Devin Booker and Jalen Green. 147 00:08:09,160 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 2: I don't like that. I don't like that at all. 148 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 2: But when I saw it, I go all right. Durant 149 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:19,120 Speaker 2: goes to Houston. I like the roster. Yma Udoka, the 150 00:08:19,160 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 2: head coach, just got a contract extension. 151 00:08:21,720 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 3: It's a young team, but now you have a closer. 152 00:08:25,160 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 2: Now you got a guy can go get you a 153 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:32,199 Speaker 2: bucket and that's going to make them extremely dangerous. It's 154 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:36,280 Speaker 2: a young team, aggressive team, good defensive team. And now 155 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 2: you got a guy crunch time who can get you 156 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 2: a bucket. Now, granted he's thirty seven, but his game 157 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 2: is not really predicated on jumping high or moving fast. 158 00:08:46,720 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 2: It just feels like he gets to spots and he 159 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 2: will kill you. But from the perspective of the Rockets, 160 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:58,560 Speaker 2: I like what they did because it's now. Now they're 161 00:08:58,559 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 2: trying to win a championship where Phoenix, Phoenix is going 162 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 2: to have to take the wrecking ball, and I can 163 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:08,959 Speaker 2: you can't trade Bradley bial Imagine Lebron and Bradley be 164 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 2: are the two guys who don't have no trade glasses. 165 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 2: So yeah, you have Bradley Beal and Devin Booker and 166 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 2: Jalen Green and I don't know the ghost of Steve 167 00:09:27,240 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 2: Nash there, yes, Marvin. 168 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 5: The crazy part is the Sons were in the finals 169 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 5: in twenty twenty nine. No, I know how things change 170 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 5: so fast? What a young Devin Booker. If you're thinking 171 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 5: when they got to the finals, oh, we'll be back. 172 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 5: That's the scariest part about getting to the finals. You 173 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 5: don't know which way it's going to go. 174 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:44,079 Speaker 3: Yeah. 175 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 2: You know, I brought up this calf issue thing because 176 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:52,559 Speaker 2: Dame Lillard and Jason Tatum both told Gilbert Arenas that 177 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 2: they had calf injuries before they told their tour their achilles, 178 00:09:56,880 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 2: and that's what happened with Tyres Halliburton. And that's why 179 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:02,760 Speaker 2: I wondered, can you put him out there? I know 180 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 2: he wants to be out there, but you have he 181 00:10:06,360 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 2: has to know that there is a risk that you're 182 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 2: gonna tear your achilles. 183 00:10:10,960 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 3: Tatum and Dame Lillard both had. 184 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 2: Cap injuries and then they tore their achilles, and that's 185 00:10:16,840 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 2: what happened with Tyree's Haliburton. Also, don't wear the number zero. 186 00:10:24,720 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 2: Dame Lillard zero, Jason Tatum zero, Tyre's Halliburton zero. Yikes, 187 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 2: who else is wearing zero? We got to give them 188 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:37,280 Speaker 2: a heads up. 189 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 3: Christian Brown, be careful. Well, okay if he wears zero? Sure? 190 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:47,680 Speaker 2: All righty, So the poll question, what are we going 191 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:50,600 Speaker 2: to remember seeing any other pole question for the first 192 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:51,400 Speaker 2: hour of the program. 193 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 3: Uh, yeah, we got one more here for you. Okay. 194 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:57,160 Speaker 4: Bigger mistake trading SGA trading the Sonics. 195 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:03,719 Speaker 3: Well, that owner wanted to move them to Okay, cyah, 196 00:11:03,960 --> 00:11:05,719 Speaker 3: So I get that, But you. 197 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 2: Go back to when Shay Gilgis was traded now Sam 198 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 2: Presty Oklahoma City. GM insisted that SGA was going to 199 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:15,559 Speaker 2: be in the deal, and I think the Clippers were 200 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 2: trying to hold on to him. He finished sixth in 201 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:20,319 Speaker 2: the Rookie of the Year ballot, and he averaged only 202 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 2: twelve points a game. Anybody who said, well I saw this, 203 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:28,200 Speaker 2: I think he might be lying, because that felt like, 204 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:31,400 Speaker 2: all right, you take Paul George, take his contract. 205 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 3: What are you going to give us in return? 206 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:35,719 Speaker 2: And they had accumulated so many draft picks there in 207 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 2: Oklahoma City, and all of a sudden, you know, I 208 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:40,679 Speaker 2: watched Shay Gilgis at Kentucky. 209 00:11:41,000 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 3: I can't tell you. 210 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 2: I remember one play that he had kind of like 211 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 2: the way he plays now where you go, all right, 212 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 2: I think I can score. I mean, he was just 213 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:55,079 Speaker 2: another Kentucky player. He can score, Okay, can get to 214 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 2: the loop. I didn't think, oh my god, that guy's 215 00:11:58,080 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 2: going to be He's going to do something that is 216 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:03,840 Speaker 2: in rarefied air with Kareem and Shaq and Michael Jordan. 217 00:12:04,200 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 3: Imagine you're on that list. And he did it. 218 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 2: I don't think anybody saw that coming, that he would 219 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:13,400 Speaker 2: be this great. But this, you know, this has been 220 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 2: a process, like five six years to get to this point. 221 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 3: Remember chat Holmgren. 222 00:12:20,040 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 2: As soon as they got him, he got hurt in 223 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 2: that summer All Star Game that he was playing in. 224 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 2: He's had a hip injury. He's obviously injury prone here. 225 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 2: But you're getting guys, and you're going, Okay, nobody wants 226 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 2: Alex Caruso. We'll take him. Lou Dort who Jalen Williams who? 227 00:12:41,679 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 2: I mean, come on, guy, went to Santa Clara. That's 228 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:48,199 Speaker 2: where you look at scouting. That's where you look at 229 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 2: what you do, and you know down in the lab 230 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 2: and that's what OKA see has done a wonderful job. 231 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:57,840 Speaker 2: And it starts with Sam Presty. I think he took over. 232 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 2: He was twenty eight years of age when he was 233 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 2: a GM and now what is he forty seven? Still 234 00:13:03,880 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 2: young for that job. But you know, this is why 235 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:09,960 Speaker 2: when we talk about the Lakers that you get new ownership. 236 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 2: Now you can't go out and just buy whoever you want, 237 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 2: but they're going to help the infrastructure of the Lakers scouting. 238 00:13:17,640 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 2: I mean that that's where you beef up and you know, 239 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 2: that's what OKAC has done. It did a wonderful john 240 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 2: and should be commended for finding those players who do 241 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 2: fit in. 242 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 3: Now. 243 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 2: The key for OKC as we move forward is Shay 244 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:34,760 Speaker 2: Gilgess is probably going to get a contract that's going 245 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 2: to pay him eighty million dollars a year. Just start 246 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 2: there now. Is Chad Homern going to take less? Is 247 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:46,720 Speaker 2: Jalen Williams going to Is anybody taking less to stay 248 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 2: together to win a championship. As a former NBA champion 249 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 2: once told me, once I got my ring, I wanted 250 00:13:55,320 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 2: my money. That's what happens. I got my ring, now 251 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:03,679 Speaker 2: I want my money. Look at what happened with the Nuggets. 252 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:06,959 Speaker 2: Those guys bench players. They got their ring, then they 253 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 2: wanted their money. It's in natural evolution. When you're trying 254 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:13,680 Speaker 2: to keep these teams together, that's what you have to 255 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 2: have in place. Is there a commonality that hey, let's 256 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 2: do that, Let's continue to do this. We're having fun, 257 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 2: we're the best team, we're young, we have plenty of 258 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 2: time to make plenty of money. It sounds altruistic, but 259 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:33,520 Speaker 2: it doesn't happen that way. Guys are gonna leave. Guys 260 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 2: are gonna want their money. I understand it. Natural evolution. 261 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 6: Here. 262 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:40,360 Speaker 2: Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. 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Don't listen to the show so 274 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 7: it can get camps, get. 275 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:18,600 Speaker 3: Fool. 276 00:15:18,720 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 8: Listen to the Tony Foodscope Show on the iHeart Radio 277 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 8: app or wherever you get your podcast. 278 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 3: He's still Moving. 279 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:28,840 Speaker 2: In case you missed it, the Pat McAfee Show, Aaron 280 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 2: Rodgers talked about his future with the Steelers and the NFL. 281 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm pretty sure this is it. You know, that's 282 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 9: why we just did a one year deal. You know, 283 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 9: this was really about finishing with a lot of love 284 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:45,120 Speaker 9: and fun and peace for the career that I've had. 285 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 9: I've played twenty freaking years like it's been a long, 286 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:49,360 Speaker 9: long run. 287 00:15:49,480 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 7: I've enjoyed it. 288 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 9: And what better place to finish than in one of 289 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:57,600 Speaker 9: the cornerstone franchises of the NFL, with Mike Tomlin and 290 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 9: a great group of leadership and great guys in the 291 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 9: city that expects expects you to win. 292 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 2: I don't have any problem with this. I mean the 293 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 2: Rogers news I rarely react to. Thought he was going 294 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 2: to go to the Steelers. Thought he was going to 295 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 2: wait as long as he could. Didn't know that he 296 00:16:17,040 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 2: got married. Maybe that was the reason why he wasn't 297 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 2: showing up. You want to do a victory tour, great, 298 00:16:23,520 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 2: I have no problem with that. Steelers, I'm sure would 299 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 2: want to know this that this doesn't become a week sixteen, 300 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 2: week seventeen? 301 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 3: Are you coming back? Are you coming back? 302 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:32,600 Speaker 6: Now? 303 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:36,240 Speaker 2: It's still going to happen. Let's say Aaron Rodgers plays great. 304 00:16:36,560 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 2: Let's say the Steelers maybe a number two seed, number 305 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 2: three seed. Let's say they overachieve. Let's say they have 306 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 2: home field advantage first round of the playoffs. You're going 307 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 2: to ask that question. You're going to ask that question, 308 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 2: and he might give you a different answer. He might say, 309 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 2: I love it here, I love playing for Mike Timlin. 310 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 2: I love my offense. You know, I'd love to run 311 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 2: it back one more time. I wouldn't rule it out, 312 00:17:08,560 --> 00:17:12,119 Speaker 2: certainly with Aaron Rodgers, but he's earned the right. You 313 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 2: want to have a victory tour? Great, Yeah, Marvin, how far. 314 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 5: Do you the stealers need to go before? If you're 315 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:22,480 Speaker 5: Mike Tomlin or if your management say hey, Aaron, do 316 00:17:22,520 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 5: you want to give it one more go? 317 00:17:24,680 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 2: I would say, well, how about you do something you 318 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 2: haven't done a long time, win a playoff game? If 319 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 2: you would win two playoff games, then all of a sudden, 320 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 2: I don't think it's a foregone conclusion. Aaron walks away, 321 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 2: But it's Aaron Rodgers, and you just don't know. I mean, 322 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 2: I covered I'm friends with one of the great mysterious 323 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 2: athletes in sports history, and Barry Sanders, and I'm working 324 00:17:50,920 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 2: Sports Center on a Sunday night the Lions just lost 325 00:17:54,119 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 2: end of their season, and his agent, Peter Shaeffer calls 326 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:02,480 Speaker 2: me and says, you can't say anything, but and I 327 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 2: went don't do this to me. Barry is on a 328 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 2: plane to London. He's going to retire out of nowhere. 329 00:18:12,800 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 2: So is Aaron mysterious like that? No, but there is 330 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 2: mystery attached to him. You know, Barry's most unique athlete 331 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:28,640 Speaker 2: I ever covered. You know, frugal, you know, he ran 332 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:35,240 Speaker 2: to make highlights, but his personality wasn't that way. His 333 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:39,639 Speaker 2: personality was three yards, but his running style was sixty yards, 334 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:43,760 Speaker 2: making you know, seven guys miss. But with Aaron Rodgers, 335 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:46,160 Speaker 2: you know he wants to play this year, and that's 336 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:49,439 Speaker 2: it great. I you know, bigger picture, more important to 337 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 2: me is Mike Tomlin. Because Mike Tomlin and the Steelers 338 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:55,480 Speaker 2: signed up for one year. They had to know that 339 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:59,679 Speaker 2: it was one year, and he gave him a bargain price. 340 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 2: Now you're back in the quarterback wishing well again. And 341 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 2: this is what I wonder, do you want him for 342 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:09,240 Speaker 2: one year or are you going to try to And 343 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 2: maybe they didn't like these quarterbacks, Maybe they didn't like 344 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 2: Jackson Dart, maybe they didn't like Shud or Sanders or 345 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:18,879 Speaker 2: any of these other quarterbacks. But you're back in the 346 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:22,400 Speaker 2: mix again. And if you're still looking for a quarterback, 347 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 2: man are you behind a lot of teams, all of 348 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:27,919 Speaker 2: these teams that we talk about, what do they have 349 00:19:28,000 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 2: in common? Very good, if not great quarterback Steelers? Are 350 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:36,600 Speaker 2: we going to go through the Mason Rudolph Hey, you 351 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:39,119 Speaker 2: know what he learned a lot from Aaron Rodgers or 352 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:42,359 Speaker 2: Will Howard. I mean, you're going against Lamar Jackson and 353 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:44,680 Speaker 2: you're going against Joe Burrow in your own division. 354 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 3: You know. 355 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 2: So it's one year. So that's why I wonder, is 356 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin one more year? And look, I know, the 357 00:19:56,440 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 2: national perspective on Mike Tomlin is a whole lot different 358 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:03,680 Speaker 2: than the local because this is a team, this is 359 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:06,120 Speaker 2: a franchise, this is a fan base expects to win, 360 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:13,640 Speaker 2: not a playoff game, compete for championships. And I wonder 361 00:20:14,280 --> 00:20:17,879 Speaker 2: if if they go out like they don't win another 362 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 2: they don't want a playoff game, you know, then you 363 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:22,200 Speaker 2: start to look at this and say, do we need 364 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 2: a change? And I wonder with Aaron Rodgers and Mike Tomlin, 365 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 2: maybe they go out same time. 366 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:31,680 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan 367 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:35,360 Speaker 1: Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific 368 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:39,400 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app A. 369 00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:42,199 Speaker 2: Couple of surprises. But really this is kind of the 370 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 2: let's reintroduce or maybe introduce you to some of the 371 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:48,919 Speaker 2: players who might be playing some minutes in the NBA 372 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:52,200 Speaker 2: next season. I'm going to throw out a couple of names, 373 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:55,640 Speaker 2: and then you tell me if you can guess where 374 00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 2: I'm going and maybe even recognize them. 375 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:01,640 Speaker 3: If I said bub Carrington. 376 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:11,399 Speaker 2: Or I said Jalen Wells, Eve's Missy, where are we gone? 377 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 2: I'm talking about NBA players who were rookies last year. 378 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:19,440 Speaker 2: Bub Carrington played the most minutes of any rookie last year. 379 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:24,639 Speaker 2: He was drafted fourteenth by the Wizards. Jalen Wells second 380 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 2: most minutes. He was drafted thirty ninth by the Grizzlies. 381 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:33,160 Speaker 2: Eves Missy, who played for the Pelicans, drafted twenty first. 382 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 2: He was fourth on the list. Stefan Cassel third on 383 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,640 Speaker 2: the list. He was drafted fourth overall by the Spurs. 384 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 2: So what am I getting at? You can be drafted high, 385 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:49,640 Speaker 2: you can be drafted in the lottery. That doesn't mean 386 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:53,240 Speaker 2: you're going to have those kind of minutes. I think 387 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:55,640 Speaker 2: we feel like, you know, the old days, when you're 388 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:58,680 Speaker 2: drafted in the first ten picks, fifteen picks you're playing 389 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 2: right away. Reed Shepherd did not play for the Rockets 390 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:07,479 Speaker 2: last year and I played five hundred minutes, but he 391 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 2: was a G League player. 392 00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:09,880 Speaker 3: He was the third pick. 393 00:22:09,920 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 2: Overall, you're drafting players and it's almost like you're drafting 394 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 2: them they're going to be on your roster, but it's 395 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,040 Speaker 2: not like it's sort of like baseball where they draft 396 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 2: and then you disappear for a couple of years and 397 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 2: then you come back. 398 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:26,879 Speaker 3: You know, you go to the minor leagues. 399 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 2: These players are kind of there or maybe in the 400 00:22:29,600 --> 00:22:32,199 Speaker 2: G League and then they might contribute. Now, do I 401 00:22:32,200 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 2: think Dylan Harper is going to play significant minutes for 402 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:36,080 Speaker 2: the Spurs? 403 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:36,440 Speaker 6: Yes? 404 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:39,600 Speaker 2: Is Cooper Flagg going to play significant minutes for the 405 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 2: Dallas Mavericks? 406 00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:42,960 Speaker 3: I do Ace Bailey. 407 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 2: In Utah VJ Edgecombe. I don't know how much he's 408 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 2: going to play for the seventy six ers. They already 409 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 2: have their guards there. So you're trying to figure this 410 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:56,560 Speaker 2: out of Okay, you drafted a guy, what's that mean 411 00:22:56,600 --> 00:22:59,359 Speaker 2: for our team right away? How many of these guys 412 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 2: will have a true impact? And you're gonna have some 413 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 2: projects here and you might have a guy who plays 414 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:09,600 Speaker 2: for a team who then gets traded and then becomes 415 00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 2: something in two or three or four years. Because you're 416 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 2: drafting eighteen year olds nineteen year olds in college baseball, 417 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:22,240 Speaker 2: they're at least twenty two to twenty three, so it's different. 418 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 2: But it'd be like taking an eighteen year old high 419 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:29,160 Speaker 2: school phenom in baseball. He's not going to the majors, 420 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,640 Speaker 2: he's going to the miners. Well, you're gonna get guys 421 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 2: who are going to play sparingly with a lot of 422 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 2: these first round picks, if they even make the team. 423 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 2: If I said to Monte Kamara, he led in minutes 424 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:52,400 Speaker 2: the previous year for the Portland Trailblazers Keyante George, he 425 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 2: had the second most minutes in the previous draft. He 426 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 2: was sixth sixteenth overall. So there's no sure things. I mean, 427 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,719 Speaker 2: do I expect Ace Bailey to be a good player, 428 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 2: I guess. But the situation you're in really dictates how 429 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:13,399 Speaker 2: quickly you become successful. If you go to a bad roster, 430 00:24:14,359 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 2: a bad organization, it's already an uphill battle you're going in. 431 00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 2: You're going to be a rookie, you're just trying to survive. 432 00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:23,640 Speaker 2: Now you're on a team with a bunch of knuckleheads, 433 00:24:24,160 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 2: and you've got to you know the history. It's systemic 434 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 2: of how bad you are, and there's a reason why 435 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:37,040 Speaker 2: those organizations stay bad. They're not relevant. Danny Ainge didn't 436 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 2: care that As Bailey didn't want to go to Utah. 437 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 2: Danny Inge said, all right, we'll take you. You don't 438 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 2: want to go to Philly or Charlotte. He didn't want 439 00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 2: to go to Utah. He wanted to go to Brooklyn, 440 00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 2: and he wanted to go to Washington because he wants 441 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:52,919 Speaker 2: to be a star right away. I want my shots. 442 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 2: I want to play right away. If I go to 443 00:24:54,440 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 2: Charlotte and Lamelow, ball is going to be dominating. You know, 444 00:25:00,520 --> 00:25:04,399 Speaker 2: he's ball dominant there. Doesn't want to go to the Sixers. Okay, 445 00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 2: they're kind of a mess. Didn't want to go to Utah, 446 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,880 Speaker 2: and Danny Ainge said, I'm sorry, but I'm still going. 447 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 3: To take you. And got a lot of talent. 448 00:25:14,680 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 2: But I don't know if I don't know if this 449 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,159 Speaker 2: strategy worked that he didn't want to work out for 450 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:22,239 Speaker 2: certain teams, didn't want to go to Charlotte, didn't want 451 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:26,120 Speaker 2: to go to the seventy six ers, He's too talented 452 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,679 Speaker 2: to have dropped too far, and I think he was 453 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 2: hoping that he was going to drop maybe a couple 454 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,000 Speaker 2: more picks, at least one more pick. He wanted to 455 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 2: go to the Pelicans. So this strategy didn't work. You 456 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:43,639 Speaker 2: ended up in Utah. But Dallas did well, obviously getting 457 00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:48,440 Speaker 2: Cooper Flag, who can now ease in two minutes if 458 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 2: he played for another organization. You're like, all right, we're 459 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:52,879 Speaker 2: coming out and see Cooper Flag. Well, you're going to 460 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:56,280 Speaker 2: go out and see the Mavericks with Cooper Flag. There's 461 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:58,320 Speaker 2: a big difference. And we're going to go see Cooper 462 00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 2: Flag and the Nets, and I think the expectation level 463 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 2: will be very beneficial. Carmelo Anthony, former number one overall pick, 464 00:26:07,160 --> 00:26:11,360 Speaker 2: now an analyst for NBC with their NBA coverage, had 465 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 2: this to say about Cooper Flag. 466 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 8: To me, he doesn't do anything great. He just do 467 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,600 Speaker 8: a lot of very good. You know what I'm saying. 468 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 8: He offensive rebound very good. He in the passing lanes 469 00:26:25,800 --> 00:26:28,639 Speaker 8: very good. He's a weak side defender, very good on 470 00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 8: ball defender, he got a lot better. 471 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:32,000 Speaker 3: I want to see him against you. 472 00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:33,440 Speaker 8: I want to see him against Kad. 473 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:35,159 Speaker 3: I want to see him against Luca. 474 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 8: I want to see him against ann Elwis because you 475 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,480 Speaker 8: coming in as that guy. If he gotta develop the 476 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:41,679 Speaker 8: right way, he got to get a skill set. You 477 00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 8: can't be in the pros and don't. 478 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 4: Have a skill set. 479 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,400 Speaker 8: So you have to have a skill set, like your 480 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 8: skill set have to be something a wonder. 481 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 3: Full of, like something floater like. 482 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:51,399 Speaker 8: You have to have. 483 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:52,520 Speaker 3: Something that you'll go to. 484 00:26:52,640 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 8: Right now, he don't have a go to. 485 00:26:55,080 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 2: That's Carmelo on Podcast P with Paul George discussing Cooper Flag. 486 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 2: You know, I disagree with them of you know, what's 487 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 2: his bag? You can be a really good all around player. 488 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 2: There's value in that. They're looking at this from an 489 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 2: offensive perspective, so it's a myopic view of he's got 490 00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:16,159 Speaker 2: to have. 491 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 3: A signature move. 492 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 2: Well, he's eighteen, and I think his signature move is 493 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 2: he doesn't have a signature move. He's got a variety 494 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 2: of things. He's not going to be one dimensional. And look, 495 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 2: Carmelo was incredible, but he didn't really have much of 496 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 2: a move. It was just that jab step. But he 497 00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:36,240 Speaker 2: was going to nail it. He's going to kill you 498 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,720 Speaker 2: mid range. But Carmelo was not the all around player 499 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 2: that Cooper Flag is. So there's a difference in that. 500 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,679 Speaker 2: It's the value in that. But Cooper Flag has an 501 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 2: opportunity to learn. He can learn from Kyrie, he can 502 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:53,440 Speaker 2: learn from Ad, he can learn from Jason Kidd. If 503 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,679 Speaker 2: Jason Kidd still wants to be the coach. Feels like 504 00:27:56,720 --> 00:28:00,400 Speaker 2: that didn't go away yet. There was a report yesterday 505 00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:04,639 Speaker 2: that either the Knicks and Jason Kidd are still holding 506 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:09,680 Speaker 2: out hope. But Nico Harrison, by the way, you can't 507 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:13,120 Speaker 2: write a script for Nico Harrison where you go, Hey, 508 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:14,960 Speaker 2: listen to this pitch, Hollywood. 509 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:17,399 Speaker 3: This guy he's. 510 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 2: Got a trade, a franchise player, death threats, he can't 511 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 2: even go to games or they know they bow him. 512 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:26,640 Speaker 2: And you know, the team had all kinds of injuries. 513 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,479 Speaker 2: You kind of limped literally into the playoffs, and then 514 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, long odds, you win the lottery 515 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:33,359 Speaker 2: and then you. 516 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 3: Get Cooper Flag. That's what happened. So I guess the 517 00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 3: Mavericks had a good year. 518 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 2: Would you say, all the backlash, you had, all the injuries, 519 00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:50,880 Speaker 2: Kyrie's going to be out for half the year, probably 520 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 2: you get a d and you got bailed out, the 521 00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 2: ultimate bailout, probably an end where it's like, oh my god, 522 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:03,640 Speaker 2: what did we do? Now? 523 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:04,640 Speaker 3: We'd still do it again. 524 00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 2: He didn't play any defense, and then you end up 525 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 2: with Cooper flag. But watching last night, you know, it's 526 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 2: fun to see some of these names that you saw 527 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 2: kind of a you know, six months there were eighteen 528 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:24,479 Speaker 2: freshmen drafted. This really was an introduction to rookie class. 529 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 2: One oh one last time in this bj Edgecombe I 530 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 2: watched him. I really liked him at Baylor. I don't 531 00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:34,000 Speaker 2: know what he's going to do in the NBA. I 532 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,960 Speaker 2: don't know what any of the you know, Con Knipple, 533 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 2: I don't know. I mean at Duke, all right, you can. 534 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 3: Look a like a top five pick. I guess at Duke. 535 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 2: He's a really good shooter, but he is a you know, 536 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 2: stan still shooter. I don't know how much he's creating. 537 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 2: You're going to play in Charlotte, which good luck, Good 538 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 2: Charlotte me. 539 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 3: It got some minutes. 540 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 2: Probably I'm gonna gas, So I don't you know, you're 541 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 2: trying to figure any of this stuff out. Good luck, 542 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:13,600 Speaker 2: because you're dealing mostly with freshman Dylan Harper, not a 543 00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 2: great shooter, but he can handle the ball. Well, san 544 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 2: Antonio's got the Rookie of the year stuff on Castle 545 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 2: and dearon Fox. I'm gonna guess somebody is probably headed 546 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 2: out of town. Could san Antonio? Who missed out on 547 00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 2: And I don't have any information on this. This is 548 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 2: just me watching the TV last night in between getting 549 00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:35,880 Speaker 2: yelled at by steven A. 550 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 6: Smith. 551 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 2: Not directly, it just felt like it was like, I 552 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 2: got to turn down. Can you have a volume when 553 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 2: steven A is on that? I could just turn it 554 00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 2: down just a little bit and then it's kind of 555 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 2: an auto adjust there. 556 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 3: You know it's steven A. Smith. 557 00:30:54,560 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 2: Don't they have the SAP or whatever that is. This 558 00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 2: will be the sas Yeah, the essay Shore. It's like 559 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:02,720 Speaker 2: because he started yelling and I'm like, who is he? 560 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:07,400 Speaker 2: Why are we yelling? And I think at one point 561 00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 2: somebody said this, Bob Myers might have said, hey, this 562 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 2: is supposed to be a good night, a positive night. 563 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 3: I am positive. Slow down, just slow down, it's okay. 564 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 2: I don't know who came up with that idea of 565 00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 2: the louder you yelled, the more often you're gonna win 566 00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 2: your argument. 567 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:32,960 Speaker 3: Casparis Jocket, Judas can't play. I don't even know where 568 00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 3: I was before I get a lot of eighteen year 569 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:37,959 Speaker 3: olds drafted. Yeah. 570 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 10: Yeah, it's the worst thing you could be in basketball, 571 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 10: a graduating senior for your senior. 572 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 2: Well, okay, Danny Wolf played at Yale and then went 573 00:31:49,240 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 2: to Michigan. Now, Marvin loved Danny. 574 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 3: Wolf, love his game, big fan. 575 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,240 Speaker 2: But I don't know if he was his senior. He 576 00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 2: was a junior at Michigan. Okay, I I don't know 577 00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 2: if there was a senior taken last night. I'm gonna 578 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 2: I'm gonna guess. 579 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:03,400 Speaker 6: Now. 580 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 2: That's the worst thing to be is a US born 581 00:32:09,800 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 2: senior going into the draft. If your senior year, it's like, hey, 582 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 2: maybe second round, late second round. 583 00:32:20,680 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 6: Yes. 584 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,200 Speaker 10: The only thing worse would be a fifth year senior 585 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 10: the Armando Baycott syndrome, as we like to call it here, 586 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,960 Speaker 10: played five years at North Carolina, just played great basketball and. 587 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:30,600 Speaker 3: Couldn't get in. 588 00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 6: Yeah. 589 00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 2: I misspoke with Mellow. Mellow's third overall pick, not number one. 590 00:32:36,000 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 10: Pick, reminding Detroit fans about that. 591 00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 2: Yes, that's true. Yeah, you should have left that out. Yes, 592 00:32:43,960 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 2: uh all right, so play of the day is coming up. 593 00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 2: Thank you for setting me straight. On that with Carl Mellon. 594 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 2: All right, So stat of the Day brought to you 595 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,240 Speaker 2: by Panini America. The official trading cards of The Dan 596 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 2: Patrick Show. Brooklyn Nets had five first round picks. Speaking 597 00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:00,920 Speaker 2: of Danny Wolf, don't know if he was happy to 598 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:05,600 Speaker 2: go there or maybe got happier that his name was called, 599 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:09,920 Speaker 2: But he was just kind of sitting there and then 600 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 2: all of a sudden they called his name. But Brooklyn 601 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:16,760 Speaker 2: Nets they drafted four guards, three point guards, and they 602 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 2: drafted Danny Wolf, who was a point center. 603 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 3: He was crying Wolf. 604 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 2: Oh wow, I go dang, that's fine. 605 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan 606 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 1: Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern, six am Pacific 607 00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:40,400 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio WAP. 608 00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 2: Cal Rawley catcher for the Seattle Mariners, and he leads 609 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:48,480 Speaker 2: all the baseball and home runs and RBIs. Twenty twenty 610 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 2: five is obviously a career season, but he's had home 611 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:54,800 Speaker 2: runs before each of the last three seasons. He's led 612 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 2: all catchers twenty seven homers, then thirty, then thirty four 613 00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:02,000 Speaker 2: and he joins hiss now, caw, what's different this year 614 00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:03,720 Speaker 2: as opposed to the last couple of years. 615 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,839 Speaker 11: I think really just me trying to be consistent at 616 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:12,040 Speaker 11: the plate and not you know, going up and changing 617 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 11: a bunch of things mid season, trying to you know, 618 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:17,840 Speaker 11: go down rabbit holes. So you know, even if I 619 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 11: do have a bad game or two, just really trying 620 00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:23,680 Speaker 11: to stay within myself and my approach and folks on 621 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 11: what I can do rather than what the pictures trying 622 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 11: to do to me. 623 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 3: How often do you go up to the plate trying 624 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 3: to hit a home run? 625 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,319 Speaker 6: Well, usually when I do, it doesn't work out very well. 626 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:38,279 Speaker 11: So it's you know, the I guess the old saying, 627 00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:41,799 Speaker 11: you know, kind of happens by accidents. So you know, pictures, 628 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 11: you know, you to take advantage of the mistakes when 629 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:47,160 Speaker 11: they do, and I'm just trying to square it up 630 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 11: and hit it. 631 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 6: Through the middle of the field. 632 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,239 Speaker 2: You're in there with some pretty famous people here, Like 633 00:34:52,360 --> 00:34:55,279 Speaker 2: when you look at what you've accomplished, the number of 634 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 2: players to reach thirty home runs before the end of June, Babe, 635 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 2: Ruth Ken, Griffy June. You're Sammy, so said Mark McGuire, 636 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 2: Barry Bonds, Albert Poohol's show, Hey O, Tani, Aaron Judge, Uh. 637 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:08,439 Speaker 3: Pretty good list there. 638 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 6: Does that seem very fitting for any. 639 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:17,600 Speaker 2: But how do you do you embrace this that you 640 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,839 Speaker 2: belong This shouldn't be viewed as who is this guy 641 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:25,800 Speaker 2: and where did he come from? Are you surprised at 642 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:27,839 Speaker 2: how great you have played this year? 643 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,480 Speaker 11: I mean, you know, you always want to have that 644 00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,600 Speaker 11: confidence as a baseball player going to the box. You 645 00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:35,440 Speaker 11: want to feel like you're the best player in the world. 646 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:39,359 Speaker 11: Right But you know, I think you know the real 647 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,319 Speaker 11: side of it now, I don't. You know, it's hard 648 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,280 Speaker 11: to kind of fatho them, you know, you know, especially 649 00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:48,359 Speaker 11: when you're rattle off names like that. So anytime you're 650 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:50,960 Speaker 11: in that kind of you know, company with with hearing 651 00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:54,680 Speaker 11: those names, you know you're doing something you know pretty good. 652 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:57,200 Speaker 11: So really just trying to, you know, keep my head 653 00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 11: down and try to keep going, you know, not really 654 00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:02,600 Speaker 11: trying to about that too much, and trying to see 655 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:03,279 Speaker 11: how far I can go. 656 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,440 Speaker 3: You get recognized outside of Seattle. 657 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:13,160 Speaker 6: Outside of Seattle, yeah, not very much? No, sometimes, yeah, but. 658 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,799 Speaker 2: You could walk out of your hotel in Arlington right now, 659 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,880 Speaker 2: oh yeahs and go anywhere. You could go to lunch, 660 00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:24,759 Speaker 2: you could wear your jersey, you could wear your full uniform, 661 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,839 Speaker 2: and people might not realize who you are. 662 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:32,400 Speaker 11: Yeah, it's uh, it's you know, just a pretty average 663 00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:32,919 Speaker 11: looking dude. 664 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:36,759 Speaker 6: So I'm not you know, Aaron Judge. 665 00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:38,440 Speaker 11: He's a pretty big dude. You can you can kind 666 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:41,040 Speaker 11: of recognize him, not not me quite so much. 667 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 3: Okay, but you got a great nickname. 668 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:45,399 Speaker 6: I think it's yeah, one of the better ones. 669 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:48,360 Speaker 3: So okay, when you first heard it, who gave you 670 00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:49,040 Speaker 3: that nickname? 671 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:54,319 Speaker 11: Uh so, Jared kellnick We came up to the Miners. 672 00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:56,279 Speaker 11: He played with us for a couple of years with 673 00:36:56,360 --> 00:37:01,120 Speaker 11: the Braves now. He tweeted it out as soon as 674 00:37:01,160 --> 00:37:05,880 Speaker 11: I debuted, and you know, I think people thought it 675 00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:06,959 Speaker 11: was really funny at first. 676 00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:09,759 Speaker 3: And then wait, but what leads him to call you 677 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:10,560 Speaker 3: the big dumper? 678 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:13,080 Speaker 11: So I have a I have a you know, a 679 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:16,560 Speaker 11: big butt, and that's uh, that's it's kind of been 680 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,520 Speaker 11: a running thing since I've been in high school. You know, 681 00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:20,880 Speaker 11: it's just kind of been It's like, wow, he just 682 00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:22,840 Speaker 11: you know, just kind of sticks out like that guy's 683 00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,560 Speaker 11: got a really big butt. And he was always commenting 684 00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,719 Speaker 11: on in the minor leagues. And then and then obviously 685 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,720 Speaker 11: get called up and that happens. Didn't really play well 686 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,160 Speaker 11: and then start playing well and people just kind of 687 00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:36,279 Speaker 11: like took off with they loved it that that was 688 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:38,279 Speaker 11: really funny and see how it was kind of made 689 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,000 Speaker 11: it made it there kind of thing. 690 00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:43,520 Speaker 2: So so it's kind of a Kim Kardashian thing, you know. 691 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:47,279 Speaker 2: It's yeah, kind of kind of like your your calling card. 692 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:50,840 Speaker 2: There is there a sponsorship here with the Big Dumper? 693 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:56,440 Speaker 11: No, I mean not yet. I mean we'll see what. 694 00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:58,520 Speaker 11: We'll see what's out there. Maybe getting on this show. 695 00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:01,040 Speaker 3: Maybe we'll get some about dude wipes. 696 00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,360 Speaker 6: Dude wipes would be a good one kind. 697 00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,520 Speaker 3: Of fit, right, Uh, Toto toilets. 698 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:07,880 Speaker 6: There you go. 699 00:38:08,200 --> 00:38:13,680 Speaker 2: Any kind of a day. Your agent should be doing 700 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:14,240 Speaker 2: this for. 701 00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:17,800 Speaker 6: You, I know you should. They should be on it 702 00:38:17,880 --> 00:38:18,520 Speaker 6: after the show. 703 00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,239 Speaker 2: Yes, I mean this is a big deal there, big 704 00:38:21,320 --> 00:38:25,720 Speaker 2: big opportunities. We're talking to Cal Rawley, the Mariners catcher. 705 00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:29,319 Speaker 2: Who was your like idol or who did you kind 706 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:32,160 Speaker 2: of pattern yourself since you're a switch hitting catcher. Not 707 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,320 Speaker 2: many of those, Yeah. 708 00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:35,399 Speaker 6: You're right, there's not a lot of those. 709 00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,600 Speaker 11: I'd say I grew up diehard Red Sox fan, so 710 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:40,960 Speaker 11: Jason Vertek was kind of. 711 00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:42,359 Speaker 6: My guy growing up. 712 00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:44,239 Speaker 3: Have you met him? 713 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:46,600 Speaker 11: Yeah, I've got to meet him a few times. He's 714 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,000 Speaker 11: he's on staff with the Socks right now, so I 715 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:51,719 Speaker 11: got to chat with him a little bit. But yeah, 716 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:55,160 Speaker 11: I loved him obviously, him being a sweat tater catcher 717 00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:58,120 Speaker 11: and you know, him having the sea on his chest, 718 00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:00,000 Speaker 11: you know, as the captain was was a really cool 719 00:39:00,120 --> 00:39:04,719 Speaker 11: thing growing up and just somebody I idled and or 720 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:07,640 Speaker 11: was my idol and it was great to watch. 721 00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:09,120 Speaker 6: And you know I watched a bunch of other. 722 00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:12,440 Speaker 11: Catchers as well, you know, Posey Molina those there are 723 00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:15,320 Speaker 11: some really good ones as well, but the Veritext the 724 00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:16,080 Speaker 11: one the sticks out. 725 00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:19,560 Speaker 2: I was wondering if there was any correlation between being 726 00:39:19,560 --> 00:39:22,600 Speaker 2: a catcher and being a good hitter, because you're so 727 00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:26,040 Speaker 2: used to seeing pitches that you call for these pitches, 728 00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:29,799 Speaker 2: you know what it looks like, the spin, change up, 729 00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:32,439 Speaker 2: how it comes out of the hand. Is there any 730 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:36,120 Speaker 2: correlation there of helping you as a hitter by being 731 00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:36,640 Speaker 2: a catcher. 732 00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:38,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I believe so. 733 00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:42,279 Speaker 11: I mean, you know, I think as a catcher, you know, 734 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:46,160 Speaker 11: I spend most of my time doing scouting reports, talking 735 00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:48,960 Speaker 11: with pictures about how they want attack hitters, going over 736 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,680 Speaker 11: their weaknesses, so I think you can kind of flip 737 00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:55,160 Speaker 11: flop that and use that as an advantage as a hitter, 738 00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:57,680 Speaker 11: and you know, he can kind of you can kind 739 00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:00,960 Speaker 11: of think along sometimes with with other catchers and other 740 00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,279 Speaker 11: pictures and see how they're attacking you and go off 741 00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:05,719 Speaker 11: the patterns and pass how they pitched you. 742 00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:08,440 Speaker 6: So it's taking some time to kind of learn how 743 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:08,920 Speaker 6: to do that. 744 00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:13,880 Speaker 11: But but so I'd say that it definitely helps be 745 00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:15,719 Speaker 11: in the catcher because you can you can understand that 746 00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:17,040 Speaker 11: part of a little bit. But at the end of 747 00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:18,960 Speaker 11: the day, you still got to go out and put 748 00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,959 Speaker 11: a good swing on the ball and and find something 749 00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:22,720 Speaker 11: in the heart of the blade. 750 00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:27,200 Speaker 2: How do you feel when the pitch you called for 751 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:28,959 Speaker 2: is hit for a home run? 752 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:31,239 Speaker 6: You don't feel good? 753 00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:35,600 Speaker 3: I mean, do you apologize? Have you apologized to your 754 00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:37,080 Speaker 3: picture gone out to the mound? 755 00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:38,080 Speaker 6: Yeah? 756 00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,640 Speaker 11: Because sometimes I mean, you know, I think at the 757 00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,600 Speaker 11: end of the day, it's all about execution, you know, 758 00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:44,359 Speaker 11: when it's coming out. 759 00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:44,919 Speaker 6: Of the picture's hand. 760 00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:48,400 Speaker 11: But there are sometimes where you're like, you know, maybe 761 00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:51,200 Speaker 11: I I messed that one up, or you know, I 762 00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:53,200 Speaker 11: think it just goes hand in hand as a as 763 00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:55,040 Speaker 11: a battery, you know, as a picture and catcher. You're 764 00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,760 Speaker 11: working together, and you know, sometimes you mess up, sometimes 765 00:40:57,800 --> 00:40:59,239 Speaker 11: you get it right, and it's just kind of how 766 00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:01,719 Speaker 11: it goes. Is as the catcher, you know, you you 767 00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:03,959 Speaker 11: you wear some of those a little harder than others. 768 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:07,360 Speaker 6: Depending on the situation and depending on what you call it. 769 00:41:07,440 --> 00:41:10,319 Speaker 11: So you know, sometimes it's on the picture, sometimes it's 770 00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:10,840 Speaker 11: on the catcher. 771 00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:12,080 Speaker 6: It's just kind of how it goes. 772 00:41:12,600 --> 00:41:15,120 Speaker 3: How long are you allowed to admire a home run 773 00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:15,640 Speaker 3: that you've hit? 774 00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:20,840 Speaker 6: Uh? I think you can take a good look at it, 775 00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:22,399 Speaker 6: but you know you don't want to. You don't want 776 00:41:22,400 --> 00:41:22,839 Speaker 6: to be that guy. 777 00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,160 Speaker 11: You don't want to take too long, and you know, 778 00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,480 Speaker 11: you don't want to show anybody up on the opposing side. 779 00:41:27,560 --> 00:41:30,080 Speaker 11: And next thing you know, you're one of your teammates 780 00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:31,879 Speaker 11: getting thrown at or you're getting thrown at. 781 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:36,920 Speaker 3: So but once you get past first base, cal oh. 782 00:41:36,840 --> 00:41:39,880 Speaker 11: I you know, I have a pretty decent job. You know, 783 00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:41,759 Speaker 11: I don't take too much time around the bases. I 784 00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,319 Speaker 11: just you know, you got to show love to the 785 00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,960 Speaker 11: bullpen because they're rooting you on out there, so you 786 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:50,080 Speaker 11: give them a little point and then and then you 787 00:41:50,440 --> 00:41:53,040 Speaker 11: cross home and you go get the gear on this. 788 00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:54,040 Speaker 6: How it goes? 789 00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:56,040 Speaker 3: What's a home run sound like? 790 00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:01,719 Speaker 11: I mean typically sound very loud that usually when you 791 00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:02,440 Speaker 11: get them good, you don't. 792 00:42:02,480 --> 00:42:03,640 Speaker 6: It doesn't feel like you hit anything. 793 00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:05,200 Speaker 11: He just kind of feels like it was just like 794 00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:08,160 Speaker 11: a smooth swing, like almost like a dry, dry hack. 795 00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:10,359 Speaker 6: So it feels good. 796 00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,160 Speaker 11: And when you get it sweet though you can it's 797 00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:14,439 Speaker 11: pretty loud the crack of the bat. 798 00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:17,439 Speaker 2: And what's the stolen bases? What do you got nine 799 00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:18,240 Speaker 2: stolen bases? 800 00:42:19,200 --> 00:42:22,280 Speaker 6: Yeah? I got nine this year? I am Are. 801 00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:25,560 Speaker 3: You deceptively fast? Are you? You're sneaky fast? 802 00:42:27,239 --> 00:42:30,320 Speaker 6: Sneaky fast? I think I still I broke the record. 803 00:42:30,360 --> 00:42:33,160 Speaker 11: Our manager, he was the catcher for a while with 804 00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:36,160 Speaker 11: the Mariner, Stan Wilson, and he held the record for 805 00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:38,560 Speaker 11: a catcher in the Org. And I broke it this year, 806 00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:40,960 Speaker 11: and I thought about doing the whole rooky. 807 00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:48,759 Speaker 3: After the game today. I'm the greatest, that's right of all. 808 00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,360 Speaker 2: Did they give you the bag after you set the 809 00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:53,240 Speaker 2: organizational record for stolen bases? 810 00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:56,520 Speaker 6: No, it was Unfortunately it was only like seven, so 811 00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:58,680 Speaker 6: it wasn't wasn't a number. 812 00:43:00,920 --> 00:43:03,280 Speaker 2: Johnny bench to me the greatest catcher I ever saw, 813 00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:07,719 Speaker 2: and he's very impressed with you, has some great things 814 00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:08,600 Speaker 2: to say about you. 815 00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:10,320 Speaker 3: That's the highest praise. 816 00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:13,160 Speaker 2: I think you could get because Bench was a great athlete, 817 00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:16,200 Speaker 2: power hitter, and I think the greatest defensive catcher of 818 00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:16,720 Speaker 2: all time. 819 00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:19,239 Speaker 6: So yeah, that's I. 820 00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:22,439 Speaker 11: Mean, getting getting that kind of a lot from him. 821 00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:24,440 Speaker 11: And what he said was, you know, it means the 822 00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:26,440 Speaker 11: whole world to me. So I got to meet him 823 00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:28,960 Speaker 11: this year at the Ethnic Old Glub banquet. 824 00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:29,640 Speaker 3: Oh cool. 825 00:43:30,040 --> 00:43:33,080 Speaker 11: Got to talk with him for a couple a couple 826 00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:34,960 Speaker 11: hours and just sitting and talk all of them and 827 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,719 Speaker 11: it was just amazing. Hearing the stories and getting the 828 00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:38,760 Speaker 11: chat with him was awesome. 829 00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:41,200 Speaker 3: Well, great to talk to you. Good luck. 830 00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:45,239 Speaker 2: I think your second in the MVP race according my 831 00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:46,440 Speaker 2: odds this morning. 832 00:43:47,040 --> 00:43:49,680 Speaker 3: I've got Aaron Judge and then you. 833 00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:52,600 Speaker 6: So I appreciate that. 834 00:43:52,640 --> 00:43:55,640 Speaker 2: I mean, that's not bad not bad company here, Strike 835 00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:59,400 Speaker 2: keep going. Yeah, all right, Well you can stay anonymous 836 00:43:59,560 --> 00:44:01,759 Speaker 2: maybe just walking around, but not when you come to 837 00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,440 Speaker 2: the plate. So continue to do that and uh, let's 838 00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:06,080 Speaker 2: work on a sponsorship there. 839 00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:08,439 Speaker 6: Cal. I appreciate you, thanks for having me on. 840 00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:12,319 Speaker 3: That's Cayl Raleigh calling the big dumper. He's fine with that.