1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:09,400 Speaker 2: Welcome in Tuesday edition Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. 4 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:12,280 Speaker 1: Drama of course. 5 00:00:12,119 --> 00:00:17,880 Speaker 2: In the Trump trial, as Judge Marchand comes after Donald 6 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:23,279 Speaker 2: Trump for allegedly violating a gag order. Lots of discussion 7 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 2: about that. The trial continues with David Pecker. What a 8 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 2: name on the witness stand who was in charge of 9 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 2: the National Inquirer at the time there is. 10 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: I would encourage you guys. I shared it. 11 00:00:36,159 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 2: We'll throw it up on Clay and Buck as well. Amazingly, 12 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:44,120 Speaker 2: The New York Times has published a savage takedown of 13 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:49,120 Speaker 2: the charges being brought against Trump by a Boston University professor. 14 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:52,200 Speaker 2: I'd encourage you guys to go read it. It's really 15 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 2: really well done. We may talk some about that Alec 16 00:00:55,920 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 2: Baldwin in the news yet again for being harassed, but 17 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 2: you may listen to the audio and actually find yourselves 18 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:06,040 Speaker 2: unbelievably thinking that Alec Baldwood is not the bad guy, 19 00:01:06,080 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 2: which is the way Buck and I both responded. 20 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:10,039 Speaker 3: I just want to prepare everybody today. We have a 21 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 3: number of instances where we're going to have to call 22 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:17,320 Speaker 3: out people that we usually are throwing haymakers out here 23 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 3: on the show, We're going to be giving them a 24 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:19,839 Speaker 3: golf clap. 25 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 1: I just want everyone to be there are a few 26 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 1: instances of this. 27 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 2: Yesterday we spent a lot of time talking about the 28 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 2: protests that are taking place on so many university campuses. 29 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 2: I would say primarily in the Northeast, although it's also 30 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 2: on the West Coast. Now leftist institutions overwhelmingly now having 31 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 2: sit in protests, tents out on quads to attack Israel 32 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:46,000 Speaker 2: for the way that they are defending themselves in the 33 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 2: wake of the October seventh terror attacks and Columbia Universe. 34 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:54,800 Speaker 2: I can't believe this is real. Columbia University has ended 35 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 2: all in person classes for the remainder of the semester 36 00:01:59,440 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 2: because they don't feel like it is safe, essentially for 37 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 2: students to be on campus, particularly students who might be Jewish. 38 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 2: This is turned into a huge deal NYU. I know 39 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 2: they had a raid last night from the New York 40 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:16,800 Speaker 2: Police Department, but they also have faculty that are walking 41 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 2: out and trying to create human shields for the pro Palestine. 42 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:23,839 Speaker 2: However you want to classify it. I don't think they're 43 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:27,040 Speaker 2: necessarily pro Hamas, although some of them do seem to 44 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 2: be explicitly pro proma Humas. Basically, I think characterized as 45 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 2: anti Israel protest is a fair way to say this. 46 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 2: That are springing up all over the country and we 47 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 2: have to give credit. I can't believe it. But on 48 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 2: morning Joe Joe Scarborough, who is right up there with 49 00:02:46,320 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 2: the view in terms of regular propaganda idiocy that is 50 00:02:50,520 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 2: being espoused, he had a really good question. I want 51 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 2: to play that for you and then I will play 52 00:02:56,880 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 2: the response, but first credit where credit is due, Joe 53 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 2: Scarborough actually making sense. 54 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:04,840 Speaker 4: One of my pet peeves seems to be one of 55 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 4: your pet peeves, and that is you know, two million 56 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 4: people have been killed in the Sadan Civil War. I 57 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:13,640 Speaker 4: haven't seen the protests in Yu for that. Asad killed 58 00:03:13,680 --> 00:03:17,000 Speaker 4: five hundred Arabs. I didn't see colleges burned down, five 59 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:21,799 Speaker 4: hundred thousand Arabs killed by Asad. Saddam Hussein killed over 60 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 4: a million Muslims in Wars, I gassed them. I didn't 61 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 4: see protests there. 62 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 1: Yet. 63 00:03:29,080 --> 00:03:32,520 Speaker 4: Your school is shut down right now because Israel is 64 00:03:32,560 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 4: responding to the worst attack against Jews worldwide since the 65 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 4: Holy coust Help us sort. 66 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 5: Through that. 67 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 3: Great question, right, I mean credit where credit is due. 68 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 3: He's entirely right, in Clay, You and I see this 69 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 3: the same way. I want to get to that guy away, 70 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:51,360 Speaker 3: respond just real quick. Who's a professor at yu at 71 00:03:51,440 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 3: Nyu actually the school that I almost went to, Nyu 72 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:58,800 Speaker 3: stir in the business school. But you could do this 73 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 3: in a whole range of ways. You look at the 74 00:04:02,680 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 3: deaths in all those wars that he brought up. 75 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:06,320 Speaker 1: You look at the. 76 00:04:06,360 --> 00:04:09,839 Speaker 3: Yameni Civil War, which has claimed hundreds of thousands of lives. 77 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 3: People are starving to death. It's been horrible. But it's 78 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:14,360 Speaker 3: Muslims killing Muslims. Yes, And this is a little bit 79 00:04:14,480 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 3: like and this is where you and I see it 80 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 3: the same way. When we talk about police violence or 81 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 3: gun violence in this country, it's only very specific gun 82 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 3: violence or police involved violence that anyone seems to care about. 83 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:32,080 Speaker 3: On the left, And as we've talked about, BLM pretends 84 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:35,039 Speaker 3: that it is cops killing black men across America without 85 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 3: cause or justification because of systemic racism, and that is 86 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 3: actually an incredibly rare, thankfully incredibly rare event. But black 87 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:45,839 Speaker 3: people killing other black people on the streets of Chicago 88 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 3: or New Orleans or Baltimore other cities is a far 89 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 3: more common. But there's no movement, there's no marches in 90 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 3: the streets. There's no anger about this. And you have 91 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 3: to ask all these they want to say they're anti war, 92 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 3: anti Zion his Clay, No, they're anti Jewish. It's only 93 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 3: when when the Jewish people are are fighting against Hamas 94 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 3: that all of a sudden were any terrorist entity. 95 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:12,880 Speaker 1: This really matters. But Galloway's he's right here. 96 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 2: You want to call yeah, I even say, I wouldn't 97 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 2: even say it's anti Jewish. I think it's what really 98 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 2: also is coming out. Yes, there's partly anti Jewish. It's 99 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:25,839 Speaker 2: that Jewish people are seen as white and as similarly blming. 100 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:25,840 Speaker 3: When this whole thing broke out, that this is a 101 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 3: race conflict. That's how it's seen in America. 102 00:05:28,240 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 2: They only care BLM does when a white person is 103 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 2: involved in taking a black life, because remember, even when 104 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 2: it's police involved. The situation the murder of the guy 105 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:42,559 Speaker 2: who was beaten to death by a collection of black 106 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 2: cops in Memphis, that story vanished. They put out video 107 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:49,240 Speaker 2: of it. I mean the guy was pulled over. I 108 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 2: can't even remember his name right now. He certainly didn't 109 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 2: get any statues. There wasn't any riots to speak of. 110 00:05:55,279 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 2: It totally vanished. Now, if five black, five white office 111 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:03,360 Speaker 2: had beaten this black kid to death, Memphis would have 112 00:06:03,400 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 2: burned down. But because it was it wasn't even just 113 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:09,880 Speaker 2: a police thing. It's just what color are the police officers, 114 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:13,080 Speaker 2: which is crazy, but that's how this is connected. But 115 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 2: the response to I wish he's never going to do it, 116 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 2: because that's going too far. But I wish that Joe 117 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 2: Scarborough had made that connection and said, wait a minute. 118 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 2: All these BLM protests are similarly motivated, not on actual violence, 119 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 2: but by what the races of the person that they 120 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 2: believe is perpetrating the violence. Who is, in other words, 121 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 2: the oppressor, who is the colonizer. But here is Professor 122 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 2: Galloway's response to that good question from Joe Scarborough. 123 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:42,279 Speaker 1: I'll give you some more numbers. 124 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 6: Twenty two hundred American servicemen killed at Pearl Harbor. We 125 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 6: go on to kill three and a half million in Japanese, 126 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:51,040 Speaker 6: including one hundred thousand and one nine twenty eight hundred Americans. 127 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 6: In nine to eleven, we go on to kill four 128 00:06:52,680 --> 00:06:56,480 Speaker 6: hundred thousand people in Afghanistan and Iraq. We weren't accused 129 00:06:56,520 --> 00:07:01,040 Speaker 6: of genocide. If Mexico had elected the hottest cartel to 130 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 6: run their country and then they incurred into Texas and 131 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 6: on a per capita basis, killed thirty five thousand people 132 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 6: or the population of the University of Texas, and on 133 00:07:10,080 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 6: the way back, took the freshman class at SMU hostage 134 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 6: and hid them under tunnels. 135 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: What would we do. 136 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 6: It'd be the Great Sonora radioactive parking lot. But Jews 137 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:22,560 Speaker 6: are not allowed and Israel is not allowed to prosecute 138 00:07:22,560 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 6: a war, and they are prosecuting a war more humanly 139 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 6: than we have done. The ratio of combatants to civilians, 140 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:32,200 Speaker 6: civilian death to combatant mortality is lower than it was 141 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 6: in Mosil, lower than it was in Japan, lower was 142 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 6: in Germany. So there's just a different standard for Jews 143 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 6: in Israel when it comes to prosecuting a war. They're 144 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 6: allowed to fight back to a truce, but unlike America 145 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:46,679 Speaker 6: or any other Western nation that has attacked us viciously, 146 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:47,800 Speaker 6: they're not allowed to win a war. 147 00:07:47,920 --> 00:07:49,040 Speaker 1: It's a double standard. 148 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 3: Overwhelmingly I agree with that answer. I would just say 149 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 3: not really fair to combine to compare casualty statistics from 150 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:59,080 Speaker 3: the Second World War, and today we have far better 151 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 3: munich intelligence, et cetera. I mean it used to be 152 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 3: you wanted a bomb a part of a city, you 153 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 3: kind of just drop the bombs out of the air. 154 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:08,240 Speaker 3: He had the Nordon bomb site, but you drop them 155 00:08:08,280 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 3: and you hope they hit. We have far better and 156 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 3: the Israelis do too, a far better intelligence now. But 157 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:14,119 Speaker 3: put that aside, you know, because he was saying Japan 158 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:16,640 Speaker 3: and Germany that we prosecute the war, or rather the 159 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 3: Israelis prosecute the war with greater efficiency. Well, yeah, it 160 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:23,080 Speaker 3: was a long time ago that All said. His overall 161 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 3: point is something we've said on the show, Yeah, which 162 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 3: is what if if you've I think you actually you 163 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:31,720 Speaker 3: even said a specific Cantel's yeah, did this, and it's 164 00:08:31,800 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 3: it's absolutely true, And I would have nothing but contempt 165 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:40,200 Speaker 3: for anyone American or otherwise if in that example of 166 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:43,320 Speaker 3: the you know, the cartel and they're Narco terrorists are 167 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 3: a real thing. In fact, if you go back before 168 00:08:45,559 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 3: bin Laden, the world's most wanted man was Pablo Escobar, 169 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 3: who blew planes out of the sky and did political 170 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:55,160 Speaker 3: assassinations and was involved in, you know, in acts of 171 00:08:55,200 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 3: mass murder. Narco terrorists are a real thing. If a 172 00:08:59,080 --> 00:09:02,319 Speaker 3: narco terrorist group bring out of Mexico that had been 173 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 3: elected by the Mexican people, by the way, that had 174 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 3: won an election in Mexico, had done what that would 175 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 3: have just occurred in Israel to us, and we were 176 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 3: talking about sending in, you know, our elite units to 177 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 3: just you know, mop the floor with them. Anybody who 178 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:23,080 Speaker 3: would say Geese fire, I would have nothing but contempt for. 179 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:25,600 Speaker 3: And so I offered these Israeli as the exact same 180 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 3: moral calculation, the exact same moral freedom to operate that 181 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:31,439 Speaker 3: I would give myself under those circumstances. 182 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:34,400 Speaker 2: I think it's perfectly well said. I don't remember the 183 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 2: last time that I heard a well reasoned, rational argument 184 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 2: on MSNBC. And I give credit to Scarborough and Galoway 185 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:48,600 Speaker 2: for having that conversation, because that is I think an elite, 186 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 2: high level discussion that is probably analogous that to me, 187 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 2: is almost impossible for someone to respond to who is 188 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:02,439 Speaker 2: protesting against Israel right now and be able. Now you could, 189 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 2: I guess, be someone who is so you could be 190 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 2: a Quaker and say that there is no right to 191 00:10:07,720 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 2: violence anywhere. But then obviously Hamas interacting violently on October 192 00:10:13,240 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 2: seventh is tough for that argument. But short of that, 193 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 2: I don't even understand what the response would be other 194 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 2: than but they're white. That's really basically what this boils 195 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:23,920 Speaker 2: down to. 196 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 3: Not to get too deep into this with pacifists and pacifism, 197 00:10:28,320 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 3: but Quakers can only exist in societies where there are 198 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:32,960 Speaker 3: other people who are willing to take up arms the 199 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:36,120 Speaker 3: defense of basic freedoms and rights so that the Quakers 200 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:38,560 Speaker 3: can take the positions that they have. Just putting that up, 201 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 3: and I'm going to find a new Quakers in Saudi Arabia. 202 00:10:41,280 --> 00:10:42,599 Speaker 1: Building on that analogy. 203 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 2: Everybody who is attacking Western civilization only has the ability 204 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 2: to attack Western civilization because they have the good fortune 205 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:54,080 Speaker 2: to live in a Western civilist civilization to be able 206 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 2: to attack it. 207 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 3: I also think that we may be and it depends 208 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 3: on how long this goes, right, if we look kut 209 00:11:00,320 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 3: BLM two point zero, Really it began with George Floyd 210 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:08,840 Speaker 3: and it started getting really big in June of twenty twenty. 211 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 1: We're a little more earlier. 212 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 3: We're a little earlier in the in the timeline here, 213 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:17,040 Speaker 3: it's obviously almost may. But I think the problem they're 214 00:11:17,080 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 3: running with is this has become the issue of the 215 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:23,640 Speaker 3: activist left, and this is the mobilization in an election 216 00:11:23,800 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 3: year for the you know, emotionally deranged leftist activist mentality, 217 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:32,360 Speaker 3: and also infrastructure that they have at some level, like 218 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 3: a lot of tents showing up very quickly. I mean, 219 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:37,679 Speaker 3: I will say it does seem to have the same tense. Yeah, 220 00:11:37,840 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 3: it does seem like someone's doing something somewhere to help 221 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 3: this stuff out. Right, We can dive into that a 222 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 3: little bit more. But the difference is Joe Biden is 223 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:50,720 Speaker 3: in charge, So you're mobilizing at a time when your guy, 224 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:55,439 Speaker 3: effectively as a leftist, is calling the shots. And also 225 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 3: I think that there's a particularly powerful. 226 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:01,679 Speaker 1: Down to this. 227 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:04,839 Speaker 3: Basically, what I'm saying is to mobilize around the cops 228 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 3: are racist in America's racist. That works for Democrats in 229 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 3: a way that having the left decide to just unleash 230 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:16,439 Speaker 3: all their anti semitism at once, I think is politically 231 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:18,920 Speaker 3: not only is it wrong morally, I think it's a 232 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:21,160 Speaker 3: blunder too. And I think that there are some Democrats 233 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:23,679 Speaker 3: who are realizing this they do not want this to 234 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 3: continue through the summer. I do not think this is 235 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:28,200 Speaker 3: going to help their electoral prospects. 236 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:31,480 Speaker 2: Not only that, I mean it directly attacks the Identity 237 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:36,319 Speaker 2: Politics Coalition because BLM brought together all the Arab protesters 238 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 2: in theory, all the Jewish protesters who are on the left. 239 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:42,000 Speaker 2: This is tearing it apart, which is why I sent 240 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 2: you a message. I saw it was being shared. MSNBC, 241 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:49,839 Speaker 2: at least this morning, was not covering at all any 242 00:12:49,880 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 2: of the campus protests that are going on. They are 243 00:12:52,760 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 2: manighacally focused on the Trump trial. 244 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 1: So if you only paid. 245 00:12:56,880 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 2: Attention to the MSNBC website, to be fair, that clip 246 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 2: that we just played you is from Morning Joe, so 247 00:13:02,400 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 2: they were talking about it there. But if you're just 248 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 2: someone who's going on to the MSNBC website, like what's 249 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 2: the news of the day, all you would get is 250 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:12,280 Speaker 2: Trump is Rachel Maddow on Monday, I think she had 251 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 2: a panel discussion. 252 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 1: It was all Trump. 253 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 2: I don't know that you would be very aware of 254 00:13:18,160 --> 00:13:22,320 Speaker 2: this if you are a typical leftist person who is 255 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:23,680 Speaker 2: consuming news well. 256 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:25,440 Speaker 3: I mean the New York Times. It's from page New 257 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 3: York Times. It's from page Washington Post. Isn't it I 258 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 3: mean MSNBC. I was gonna say, is MSNBC even more 259 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:35,640 Speaker 3: to the left of those publications. 260 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:36,840 Speaker 1: I'm not sure that's really. 261 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 2: I think that the challenge they've got is Trump is 262 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 2: their great satan, and they don't want to distract at 263 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:45,079 Speaker 2: all from the fact that the Trump trial is going 264 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 2: on because it is probably frankly better ratings because there's 265 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:51,200 Speaker 2: a bad guy there that they've been wanting to get 266 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 2: for a long time. I give credit again to Scarborough 267 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 2: and Galloway for having this discussion. It would be a 268 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 2: fun discuss. It would be fun and interesting analysis of 269 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 2: me what percentage. Let's compare Fox News coverage of the trial, 270 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 2: which I'm sure they're covering it a lot, with how 271 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 2: MSNBC and CNN are covering it, because I do think 272 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 2: that's intriguing these days. Twenty dollars bill doesn't go far, 273 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 2: but it will buy you a full month cell phone 274 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 2: service from Puretalk. Twenty dollars a month gets you unlimited talk, text, 275 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 2: plenty of five G data from Puretalk. You'll get the 276 00:14:20,920 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 2: same quality of service as AT and T, Verizon or 277 00:14:23,840 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 2: T Mobile, but for half the cost. 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That's 287 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 2: pound two five zero say the keywords clay and Buck. 288 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:12,560 Speaker 3: The good news, America, I guess I should give you 289 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 3: a sarcasm alert here is that the commander in Chief, 290 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 3: Joe Biden, in this moment of tension with our campus, 291 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 3: is roiling with arrests of dozens, perhaps hundreds of students 292 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 3: being made, with Google employees being fired by the score, 293 00:15:27,400 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 3: all because of Israel Palestine stuff. With all that going on, 294 00:15:30,720 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 3: we can turn to the stalwart leadership of Joe Biden 295 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:40,360 Speaker 3: and his incredible what aboutism and both sides ism? Here 296 00:15:40,400 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 3: he is play it. 297 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 6: Do you condemn the anti submitted protests on college campuses? 298 00:15:45,440 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 6: I condemned that protests That's why I've set up I 299 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 6: told them to deal with that. I also condemn those 300 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 6: who don't understand what's going on with the Palestinians. 301 00:15:56,760 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 3: I mean, Clay, I condemn anti Semitism, and I condemn 302 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 3: those who don't know what's going on with the Palestinians. 303 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 1: What is it? I know he is. This is a 304 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 1: perfect moment. 305 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:13,200 Speaker 3: Though, Clay for Biden, because he's trying, in artfully and 306 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 3: blatantly to just have it both ways. He's trying to 307 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:18,080 Speaker 3: have it both ways, which is the problem the Democrats 308 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 3: have run into ever since October seventh. 309 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:24,840 Speaker 2: This is his attempt to say they're really fine people 310 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 2: on both sides. This is what he said there is 311 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 2: basically what they tried to say Trump said after Charlottesville. 312 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 1: Now, this is a big question. 313 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:41,040 Speaker 2: I got into this with Laura, my wife, yesterday because 314 00:16:41,160 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 2: I think this is this October seventh response and leading 315 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 2: into the election in twenty four The optimist in me, 316 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 2: buck feels like this is the event that is starting 317 00:16:56,520 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 2: to explode the identity politics coalition on the left that 318 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:06,840 Speaker 2: is untenable. It's only tenable when there is the great Satan, 319 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 2: the old rich white billionaire Donald Trump, who they can 320 00:17:11,320 --> 00:17:15,720 Speaker 2: all decide everybody who's not a white man, and even 321 00:17:15,760 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 2: some of the woke white men out there, that he 322 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:21,360 Speaker 2: is the great evil. But as soon as you make 323 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 2: them have to decide on their oppression olympics on the 324 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:28,880 Speaker 2: pyramid of victimization, who is a bigger victim, the Jews 325 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 2: or the Arabs, Who's a bigger victim women or the 326 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:36,920 Speaker 2: trans men. As soon as they have to start making 327 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 2: decisions between the two, it threatens the entire calculus of 328 00:17:41,680 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 2: their unholy alliance. 329 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 1: That's my positive ten. 330 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 3: You are thinking about it as a rational person who 331 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 3: follows logic. Yeah, the whole system is based in irrationality 332 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 3: and delusion. So it makes it far more durable because 333 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 3: it's not based in any reality or consistency. 334 00:17:59,400 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 1: I think we have to remember that. 335 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 3: But we'll take a look at an eight hundred two 336 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 3: eight two two eight to two on those lines. 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And when I look at all this chaos 359 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 2: of all of the protests that are going on on 360 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 2: college campuses right now, anti Israel protests, I think it's 361 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 2: probably the best way to kind of classify them. 362 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 1: I actually see. 363 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:41,359 Speaker 2: It as a positive in the context of what it 364 00:19:41,440 --> 00:19:44,880 Speaker 2: could create. And before I make that case a little 365 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 2: bit more, I do want to reiterate, and I think 366 00:19:46,880 --> 00:19:52,320 Speaker 2: we mentioned this yesterday. It's very telling, and maybe it 367 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:56,199 Speaker 2: will spread and it will become more commonplace. But do 368 00:19:56,359 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 2: not mistake that there are almost no oh anti Israel 369 00:20:01,600 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 2: protests at any red state university right now. They aren't 370 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 2: setting up in Texas by and large. Now, maybe there 371 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 2: will be some small ones before all is said and done. 372 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 2: They aren't doing it in Tennessee. They aren't doing it 373 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 2: in uh, Florida, Georgia. Why is that you hear all 374 00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 2: the time, Oh, the Trump supporters, they're racist, they're anti Semites. 375 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:30,640 Speaker 1: Fuck. 376 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:32,640 Speaker 2: I don't know that I've ever told you this before, 377 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 2: but I actually think most people who are raised in 378 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 2: the church in the South as I was, are actually 379 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 2: very pro Israel. Because if you're an Evangelical, I was 380 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 2: raised in Southern Baptist Church, Jesus being Jewish were actually 381 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:54,240 Speaker 2: I was raised Jewish people are the greatest people who 382 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:57,200 Speaker 2: have ever lived in the history of mankind because Jesus 383 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:00,919 Speaker 2: was Jewish. Now, I understand there are anti Semites on 384 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 2: the right. I'm not claiming that that doesn't exist. But 385 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 2: I do think it's interesting that in all these red 386 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:11,200 Speaker 2: states you're not seeing those campuses taken over. In even 387 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:13,359 Speaker 2: a place like Vanderbilt, where I'm in a lum of 388 00:21:13,400 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 2: the law school there, they actually went right in when 389 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 2: the kids tried to protest, they kicked them out of 390 00:21:20,560 --> 00:21:24,440 Speaker 2: the main part of Vanderbilt University, and they expelled several 391 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 2: of the students that were engaged in alleged criminal behavior. 392 00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:32,640 Speaker 2: So they've actually been very aggressive about shutting these things down. Now, 393 00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:35,679 Speaker 2: maybe I'm not sitting here watching live feeds of campuses. 394 00:21:35,760 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 2: Maybe some elite Vanderbilt Duke Rice smu I'm not trying 395 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 2: to lea emery. Maybe some of those schools are going 396 00:21:46,560 --> 00:21:49,399 Speaker 2: to have their own protests that are building up because 397 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:51,440 Speaker 2: a lot of the kids are from in the East 398 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:54,359 Speaker 2: Coast and a lot of the overlap. As you well know, 399 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 2: college kids all talk. Maybe they're there's trends and everything else. 400 00:21:57,720 --> 00:22:00,159 Speaker 2: But I do think as a general rule, this is 401 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:05,000 Speaker 2: a Northeast and West coast led anti Israel protest. I 402 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:07,199 Speaker 2: saw where they're setting up in Berkeley, They're setting up 403 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:12,000 Speaker 2: at UCLA, all these places. But I'm optimistic looking ahead 404 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:17,840 Speaker 2: years that you're seeing the fraying of the identity politics coalition. 405 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:22,119 Speaker 2: Right now, there are more black voters who are willing 406 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:26,640 Speaker 2: to vote Trumpet appears than maybe before Hispanic, Asian and Jewish. 407 00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 2: I think this could be a moment where we look back, 408 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 2: Buck and this is ultimately the explosion of this crazy 409 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:38,400 Speaker 2: coalition of disparate identity politics led individuals. 410 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 1: You don't buy it. I can tell by your face. 411 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:45,160 Speaker 3: Ah Man, I wish, and I would say, I hope 412 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:48,399 Speaker 3: that you're correct. I would put this into a Middle 413 00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 3: East framework for a moment. Suni and Shia Muslims at 414 00:22:54,080 --> 00:23:00,160 Speaker 3: different times are absolutely at different times throughout history, I've 415 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:01,119 Speaker 3: been fighting. 416 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 1: Religious wars effectively. 417 00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 3: The most recent iteration, well currently Iran versus the rest 418 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 3: of the Middle East. Iran and its proxies versus the 419 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 3: rest of the Middle East is the way this plays out. 420 00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 1: But it was. 421 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 3: Even more specific and mediate in the context of the 422 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 3: essentially low grade civil war during the US War in Iraq, 423 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 3: the civil war that played out between Sunni and Shia 424 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 3: in that country. I just bring it up, Clay, because 425 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 3: one could look at that and say, oh, well, they're 426 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,600 Speaker 3: at each other's throats, and so we can always yeah, 427 00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 3: but Iran will back Sunni Hamas in order to attack Israel. 428 00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 3: Like the identity politics, coalition is always built upon whatever 429 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,439 Speaker 3: the needs of the moment may be in order to 430 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:49,639 Speaker 3: achieve power for the various members, and old animosities or 431 00:23:49,720 --> 00:23:53,520 Speaker 3: previous hatreds or competition can be put aside in order 432 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:55,240 Speaker 3: to attack the big enemy. And I think the big 433 00:23:55,359 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 3: enemy in this case is still considered the white men, 434 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:05,440 Speaker 3: Republican conservative. Uh you know, let me let me ask 435 00:24:05,480 --> 00:24:09,080 Speaker 3: you what mean I'm saying, like, yeah, no, I understand 436 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,399 Speaker 3: a k of this stuff. But eventually the left always 437 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:14,639 Speaker 3: comes together because they're communists and they want power. So 438 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 3: this is the same argument my wife made, so she 439 00:24:17,320 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 3: is also it is probably not a surprise. I tend 440 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 3: to be optimistic, she says, she's not pessimistic, she's just realistic. 441 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 3: There's probably a lot of couples out there where that 442 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:27,560 Speaker 3: discussion takes place. 443 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:30,520 Speaker 2: So let me ask you this. Let's look ahead six 444 00:24:30,600 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 2: months and two weeks whatever, November fifth. Let's pretend that 445 00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 2: Rachel Maddow is crying on the air. Let's pretend things 446 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 2: go in the way of the good guys and that 447 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 2: Trump wins. 448 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 3: Look at it, look at dirty talking six months in advance. 449 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 3: Rachel Maddow's crying Trump is winning, This is amazing. 450 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:47,280 Speaker 1: You're getting me excited. 451 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 2: Well, so my question is, then you go back and 452 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:54,680 Speaker 2: you look at the data, and right now, if Trump wins, 453 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:57,639 Speaker 2: the data would reflect that the reason he's going to 454 00:24:57,680 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 2: win is a fraying of Biden's coalition and increase Trump 455 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 2: support for Black, Asian, Hispanic and Jewish voters. That would 456 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 2: be the way that this election would happen. Now, some 457 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 2: people would change their mind. 458 00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:14,919 Speaker 3: What I think it's I think if Trump wins, it's 459 00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:16,280 Speaker 3: going to be You'll look at the data and it 460 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 3: will be a small percentage shift in the key states 461 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:21,960 Speaker 3: of the white vote. 462 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:26,199 Speaker 2: Okay, So your your argument would be they'll look at 463 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 2: the data and they won't self analyze. My question is 464 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:34,119 Speaker 2: just to what my anytime you lose, I think, if 465 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:36,800 Speaker 2: you are rational, take it outside of politics, anything else, 466 00:25:37,600 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 2: you go back and you look at the tape, If 467 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 2: you are good at what you do, and you say, okay, 468 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 2: we failed, why did we fail? 469 00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 1: Let's be clear eyed and rational about it. Now. 470 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 2: I agree, there's lots of crazy kooks who are not 471 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:53,159 Speaker 2: going to be clear eyed and rational about it. But 472 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 2: if I lose, I want to go back at the data. 473 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:57,160 Speaker 2: This is why some people get mad at me now, 474 00:25:57,520 --> 00:26:01,439 Speaker 2: because the data actually reflects from twenty leave aside all 475 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 2: the all the shenanigans. Right, Ultimately, Trump didn't lose because 476 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:09,880 Speaker 2: there was a huge turnout of black voters in Milwaukee 477 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:13,439 Speaker 2: or Philadelphia or Atlanta, or the black vote was actually 478 00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 2: not very good for Biden, as it was not very 479 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 2: good for Hillary. Trump lost because of white suburban women overwhelmingly. 480 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 2: So if you are upset about Trump losing in twenty twenty, 481 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:31,439 Speaker 2: go look at the suburban collars around Philadelphia, around Atlanta. 482 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:35,639 Speaker 2: The data reflects that those women moved off of Trump. 483 00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:39,000 Speaker 2: They supported him somewhat in sixteen, they left him in twenty. 484 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 2: That's the election, right, I mean, Scottsdale, all that area. 485 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,520 Speaker 2: You have to remember, though, there's also the voters who 486 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 2: didn't show. I mean, if you look at how many 487 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 2: first of all, unregistered white working class voters there are. 488 00:26:52,160 --> 00:26:56,440 Speaker 2: Again looking just at swing states, forget about New York, California, Texas, right, Yeah, 489 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:59,360 Speaker 2: in the states that matter, unregistered wide working class voters 490 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:04,280 Speaker 2: are there's millions of them, and or low propensity of 491 00:27:04,280 --> 00:27:09,119 Speaker 2: white working class voters and a small adjustment of you know, 492 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 2: three percentage points in the white working class vote or 493 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:14,879 Speaker 2: two or three percentage points of the white working class 494 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:19,920 Speaker 2: vote among the six swing states, Trump sweeps them. Trump 495 00:27:19,960 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 2: wins without any change whatsoever in the minority votes that 496 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,440 Speaker 2: we're talking about. As we've discussed, the Latino vote is huge, 497 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 2: but the Latino vote is in states that don't matter, 498 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,879 Speaker 2: with the exception of Nevada, I mean that is arizoncentrated 499 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 2: and Arizona. It's concentrated in places that aren't going to 500 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:38,119 Speaker 2: make a difference. So the only votes as sort of ethnicities, 501 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 2: the only voting blocks that make a difference are in 502 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 2: the key states, the white vote in the black vote, 503 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:44,920 Speaker 2: and the black vote is going to go I think 504 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 2: again ninety percent plus for Joe Biden. The question will 505 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:51,360 Speaker 2: be turnout, right, so there'll be a turnout concern for them. 506 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 2: And then how many white working class voters decide. I 507 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,679 Speaker 2: when I say working class, that's it's almost like middle class. 508 00:27:56,680 --> 00:28:01,400 Speaker 2: It's a very you know, not super wealthy like too 509 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,920 Speaker 2: you know, suburban, live in a mansion way working class voters. 510 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 1: I think that'll be the difference maker. 511 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 2: Okay, So I think the black vote's going to go 512 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 2: more for Trump, and I think that'll have an impact 513 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:12,640 Speaker 2: in Georgia and potentially in the Midwest. 514 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:13,640 Speaker 1: But let me hit you with this. 515 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:18,159 Speaker 2: So in twenty sixteen, Democrats lost, and they you know 516 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 2: what they lost again from the data is millions of 517 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 2: people in the Midwest, millions flipped from voting for Barack 518 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:31,680 Speaker 2: Obama in twenty twelve to Donald Trump in twenty sixteen. 519 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:36,920 Speaker 2: And they made the argument Trump won because of racism 520 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 2: everything else. My argument would be, and then what did 521 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 2: they say? They said racism, and they said Russia collusion. 522 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 2: They didn't actually address why they lost in sixteen. It's 523 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 2: interesting to me if you look at sixteen and you 524 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:54,000 Speaker 2: look at twenty, it seems to me both parties have 525 00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 2: been somewhat irrational in analyzing why they lost and how 526 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:02,520 Speaker 2: fine the line is between success and failure, and to 527 00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 2: what extent in twenty twenty four are either party going 528 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 2: to recognize what they have to do to actually win, 529 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:14,720 Speaker 2: as opposed to argue, oh, the other side cheated, right, 530 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 2: Because Democrats spend all the four years saying Trump won 531 00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 2: and cheated. Now Republicans a lot are spending all this 532 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 2: time saying Democrats. One, they cheated the data when you 533 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,440 Speaker 2: actually dive into it is why did people change their minds? 534 00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:31,120 Speaker 2: To me, that's the ft that should be the focus 535 00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 2: for twenty four Also when you think of the scale 536 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 2: of this, and this is why, I mean, I was 537 00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:35,720 Speaker 2: asked recently. 538 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 3: I was actually at a pass over dinner last night 539 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,640 Speaker 3: and I was asked what I think about RFK Junior's 540 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 3: role and all this will be, And I said, the 541 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:46,520 Speaker 3: real answer is nobody knows. Because you're talking about so 542 00:29:46,640 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 3: many different sort of levers or pathways and playing out 543 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:53,840 Speaker 3: in different states at a future point in time. There's 544 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 3: on the decision tree here. There are so many branches 545 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,080 Speaker 3: that you could look at. And when you're talking about 546 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 3: the national president central vote, I mean one hundred what 547 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 3: are we going to call one hundred and fifty million 548 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 3: votes cast based Ish Ish right, and the difference if 549 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 3: you look at it just where it needed to happen, 550 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:14,480 Speaker 3: is less than one hundred thousand votes. Yes, you know, 551 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 3: one hundred and fifty million down to less than one 552 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 3: hundred thousand. It would be like if we had two 553 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 3: you know, you know, ancient armies fighting against each other. 554 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 3: You know, we had the you know, the Persians and 555 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 3: the Greeks. You had sixty thousand men against sixty thousand men, 556 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 3: and it comes down to the last ten guys against 557 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 3: the last ten guys, Like, what's your difference in strategy? Yeah, 558 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 3: it's very, very hard to know what a difference in 559 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:40,240 Speaker 3: strategy is going to be when you're getting that granular 560 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:44,200 Speaker 3: and small in the data versus the overall data set. Right, So, 561 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 3: you know, twenty thousand people is the math changed their 562 00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:55,320 Speaker 3: mind in Wisconsin, Georgia, and Arizona and Trump is elected 563 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 3: in twenty twenty twenty thousand voters. 564 00:30:58,080 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 1: That's one. 565 00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:03,880 Speaker 2: Key or NBA arena of one hundred and fifty million 566 00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 2: total voters. That's how fine the line is. 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And 634 00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:22,440 Speaker 1: it's you, as Americans. 635 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 3: We need to celebrate and understand our historydeply, So Crocketcoffee 636 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,279 Speaker 3: dot Com, please do subscribe. Clay, let's take some of 637 00:34:28,280 --> 00:34:30,480 Speaker 3: our callers here. We'll also get some VIP emails from 638 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:34,160 Speaker 3: clayandbook dot com. Please become a vip here. We have 639 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:38,640 Speaker 3: Kurt in Kentucky wants to talk to this. What's up Kurt? 640 00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,799 Speaker 7: Hello, gentlemen, It's a privilege to talk with you. And 641 00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 7: I am hoping and praying for another repeat of history 642 00:34:47,520 --> 00:34:52,080 Speaker 7: because I remember back in nineteen eighty we had a 643 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 7: week president, a Democrat, a week economy, and we had 644 00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 7: an ongoing conflict with Iran, and November nineteen eighty we 645 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:09,879 Speaker 7: elected Ronald Reagan, who was outspoken, aggressive and a challenge 646 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:15,400 Speaker 7: and on the day he was inaugurated as president, those 647 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,360 Speaker 7: hostages were returned to the United States. 648 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:25,120 Speaker 2: Look, history doesn't repeat at rhymes. And if Biden loses, 649 00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 2: I think the Jimmy Carter analogies historically will be impossible 650 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,960 Speaker 2: to miss. In the context buck of Biden would be 651 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:38,400 Speaker 2: an accidental president because of COVID. They would have found 652 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:40,919 Speaker 2: a way to use COVID against him in the same 653 00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:44,200 Speaker 2: way that Ford lost because of Watergate, sort of this 654 00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:49,400 Speaker 2: historical aberration and then came into office and was a disaster. 655 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 2: I think Biden's been worse than Jimmy Carter. You and 656 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,479 Speaker 2: I are too young to remember the Jimmy Carter era. 657 00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,239 Speaker 2: Many of our listeners lived through it. But if you 658 00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 2: look at all the data, there's a lot of historical 659 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:01,439 Speaker 2: analogy that connects Biden to Carter. 660 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,520 Speaker 1: Let's get Stacey and Houston real quick. Stacey, what have 661 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:06,160 Speaker 1: you got for us? 662 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:11,840 Speaker 5: Oh? I'm just going to say. On our local news 663 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,840 Speaker 5: it was mentioned at both the University of Houston and 664 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:19,239 Speaker 5: Rice University are preparing for protests today. And there was 665 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:22,360 Speaker 5: also a rabbi that was interviewed who has a synagogue 666 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,239 Speaker 5: right next to Rice University, who said that this is 667 00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 5: unconscionable at passover time. So unfortunately, the Red States are 668 00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:33,000 Speaker 5: not imman from these protests that we're seeing across the country. 669 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,520 Speaker 3: I Holly said that maybe at Duke or maybe at 670 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:38,280 Speaker 3: some of these places, but a lot of the SEC 671 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:41,240 Speaker 3: schools seem to not have as much of this. Yeah, 672 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,719 Speaker 3: I hope that the State of Texas will shut this 673 00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 3: down in a hurry. 674 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:47,479 Speaker 2: I think I mentioned Rice earlier. I hope they don't 675 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:49,680 Speaker 2: allow this to fester like they have elsewhere.