1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:01,480 Speaker 1: Welcome. 2 00:00:01,520 --> 00:00:05,240 Speaker 2: It is Verdict with Ted Cruz Weekend Review. Ben Ferguson 3 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 2: with you, and these are the stories that you may 4 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 2: have missed that we talked about this week. First up center, 5 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 2: Ted Cruz was on the ground at Camp Mystic. What 6 00:00:13,760 --> 00:00:16,279 Speaker 2: did he see and what did he learn about the 7 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:21,520 Speaker 2: flooding and the recovery efforts. Also a massive rise in 8 00:00:21,680 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 2: threats and attacks on ICE agents. Who's to blame? Could 9 00:00:25,560 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 2: it be the leadership of the Democratic Party. We've got 10 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:32,839 Speaker 2: their quotes and you can decide. And finally, the FBI 11 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 2: has opened investigations into John Brenham and James Comby. The 12 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:40,599 Speaker 2: deep state that was in charge of trying to overthrow 13 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 2: the will of the voters to get rid of Donald 14 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:46,520 Speaker 2: Trump now may be finally out accountable for their actions. 15 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 2: It's the week in Review and it starts right now. 16 00:00:50,080 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 1: But I'll tell you, Ben, the most difficult thing I 17 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 1: did today, it is I went to Camp Mystic and 18 00:00:56,800 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 1: I went and walked to the grounds at Camp Mystic, 19 00:00:59,880 --> 00:01:04,320 Speaker 1: and I think it may be the most horrifying thing 20 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:09,640 Speaker 1: I've ever seen in my life. You walk through and 21 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 1: actually as you walk through the river was calm and 22 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:21,560 Speaker 1: peaceful and beautiful. But it rose, and it rose suddenly. 23 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 1: And I will say the press, I think, has been 24 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: less than clear and honest about how camp Mystic is 25 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: it is set up, because they've described it as saying, well, 26 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: the camps for the cabins for the young girls were 27 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: down by the river bank and all of the other 28 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: cabins were up high. That's not accurate. And walking the grounds, 29 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: the cabins are all hundreds of yards removed from the 30 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: river bank. There's a lot of distance between the river 31 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: and where the cabin is, and the cabins are all 32 00:01:52,320 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: about the same elevation. There's some differences but not massive 33 00:01:55,840 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: differences in elevation between the cabins at Mystic. And I 34 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 1: was talking with one of the longtime employees there who 35 00:02:05,320 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: said there had been a flood decades before and it 36 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 1: had gotten up, It had gotten up and crossed a 37 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 1: little bit of the ground, and it had come to 38 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:17,080 Speaker 1: sort of the foundation of one of the buildings that 39 00:02:17,160 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 1: was not a cabin, but one of the buildings closer 40 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: to the river. But it had never gotten close to 41 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 1: the cabins. So that's one thing to understand. People say, well, gosh, 42 00:02:24,880 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 1: this is prone to floods. Yes, but in the one 43 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:31,880 Speaker 1: hundred years of Camp Missic, there'd never been a flood 44 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 1: where the water had gotten to the cabins. And in 45 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 1: this case, the water was eight feet deep in the cabins. 46 00:02:40,880 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 1: Walking through and every building you could see the water line, 47 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 1: you could see the water line outside the buildings, and 48 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 1: it was eight feet deep. And in the cabins the 49 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 1: water shattered the windows, it swept the furniture out. You 50 00:02:56,840 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: looked in the cabins and every one of the cabins, 51 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: the furniture had been swept out. The windows were all shattered. 52 00:03:05,520 --> 00:03:11,760 Speaker 1: And I got to tell you, look, there was one cabin, 53 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 1: it's called the bubble in, and it's a cabin at 54 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 1: Missed It where the youngest girls were. And outside the 55 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: bubble in were sixteen white crosses, and on each one 56 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: of those was the name of a little girl, and 57 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: their names that we've read in the paper, their names 58 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: of little seven and eight year old girls, third graders 59 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:47,040 Speaker 1: who lost their lives when one of the crosses was 60 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 1: for Dick Eastland, the camp director who drowned trying to 61 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 1: save the girls' lives. And he had spent he graduated 62 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: from ut fifty years ago and had spent fifty years 63 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 1: of his life running this camp for girls, and he 64 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: was in his suburban. They showed me where he drowned. 65 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 1: It was a couple of hundred yards from where I 66 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: was standing. In the river. He was trying to save 67 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: the girls in the water swept him away and he drowned. 68 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:19,080 Speaker 1: And the sixteen crosses reading those names. Two of those 69 00:04:19,080 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 1: little girls go to school with my daughter. There are 70 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 1: third graders at our school. The parents of one of 71 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:39,479 Speaker 1: those little girls lives a block away from me. And 72 00:04:39,560 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: I'll tell you, I just knelt and wept. There were 73 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 1: families there. Ben There was a mom and dad who 74 00:04:56,279 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 1: was kneeling in front of those crosses, and they were kissing, 75 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 1: kissing the cross and I stood back. I didn't want 76 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 1: to interrupt their grieving, but just watching them. The mom 77 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:20,200 Speaker 1: came to that cabin, the bubble in and she just 78 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 1: broke down in tears. In front of every cabin, there 79 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:33,720 Speaker 1: were the children's belongings. There were trunks, there were electric fans, 80 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 1: There were slippers and flip flops and crocs. There were 81 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 1: teddy bears, there were stuffed animals everywhere. These are little girls, 82 00:05:46,520 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: and many of them have their names on them. And 83 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:56,679 Speaker 1: there were moms and dads picking through the rubble looking 84 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:02,600 Speaker 1: for their girls belongings, and I I don't know which 85 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: of those moms and dads lost a daughter. We know 86 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 1: of twenty seven who were lost, and there may be more. 87 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:17,479 Speaker 1: There are eleven that are missing. And there were girls 88 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:21,839 Speaker 1: picking through the rubble. I don't know if those girls 89 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:25,000 Speaker 1: were campers themselves who had survived. I don't know if 90 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: they're siblings who had lost a sibling. But everyone is 91 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 1: walking around. Shell shock doesn't begin to describe it. They're 92 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:40,600 Speaker 1: up on the field. There was a field that was 93 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:46,280 Speaker 1: basically a parking lot for the cars of counselors, and 94 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:50,600 Speaker 1: the waters had thrown the cars on top of each other. 95 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:53,400 Speaker 1: It's like they were matchbox cars, just flipped over. You 96 00:06:53,480 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 1: saw car after car after cars stacked on each other, 97 00:06:56,080 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 1: flipped on its side, flipped the over, tossed around the 98 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 1: dining hall. An entire wall of the dining hall had 99 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: been ripped off. They had heavy wooden tables that filled 100 00:07:10,280 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 1: the dining hall. Every one of them had been pulled 101 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:17,119 Speaker 1: out in the bubble, in which is where a large 102 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: percentage of the fatalities occurred. The water swept in and 103 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:33,200 Speaker 1: just pulled those girls out the windows. It seeing that 104 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: and I saw it first from the helicopter and you 105 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: could see all their belongings spread out. But then standing 106 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:46,920 Speaker 1: there and reviewing it from the perspective of a dad. 107 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 1: You know, I have helped my daughters pack their trunks. 108 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 1: I've you know, can't pick up every year you go 109 00:07:57,800 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: and pick up your daughter's trunk and it's a joyful time. 110 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 1: Our state is more mourning right now, Ben. 111 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 3: I tell you, for everyone listening and I say this, 112 00:08:16,240 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 3: just pray for the people that are affected. Pray for 113 00:08:18,880 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 3: the people in Texas. Pray for the families who are 114 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 3: still without their their loved ones. They're still trying to 115 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 3: find them. Pray for the moms and the dads who 116 00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 3: are planning the funerals as we know people personally that 117 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:36,439 Speaker 3: are doing that and getting ready for that this week. 118 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:40,880 Speaker 3: Pray for the moms. God, please pray for the moms. Yes, 119 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:43,599 Speaker 3: and anything you can do to help with all of that. 120 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 3: There's so many different groups that are helping the people, 121 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 3: and Comfort and Kirk County and and and there are 122 00:08:50,240 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 3: people that need help. And we focus so much on 123 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 3: the kids, but there's a lot of elderly people that 124 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:56,839 Speaker 3: have been affected by this. There are a lot of 125 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 3: people that lost their lives and all their belongings, and 126 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:04,360 Speaker 3: and and help any way you can with with all 127 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 3: of the nonprofits that are getting involved, that are that 128 00:09:06,920 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 3: are doing this, and and we're going to keep you updated. 129 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:14,960 Speaker 1: But I would just say, and Ben, I want to say, Ben, 130 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 1: I want to say three more things of encouragement. So 131 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 1: in Hunt there's a store that's kind of a focal point. 132 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: It's called the Hunt Store, and and it's right at 133 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:29,080 Speaker 1: the junction of two of the highways. You go up 134 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: one highway to go to one of the big camps, 135 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 1: you go up another highway to go up to Mystic 136 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:35,199 Speaker 1: in Lahunta, and actually Hunta's right across the street from 137 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 1: the Hunt Store. The Hunt Store the flooded, the flood 138 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:42,959 Speaker 1: utterly gutted it. It's it's just ripped out in a 139 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:47,679 Speaker 1: hollow shell. I went and stopped at the Hunt Store 140 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 1: and just just visited people who were there gathering there. 141 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: And they'd actually changed the sign where it said Hunt 142 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 1: Store and instead of Hunt Store, they change the sign 143 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 1: to read Hunt Strong. And you know, Heidi and Catherine 144 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: were at the Hunt Store last week. I mean, it's 145 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:15,559 Speaker 1: I've been there dozens of times. The owners were there. 146 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 1: I just hugged them and they were just like residents 147 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: there who were just there mourning and grieving. And I'll 148 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: tell you there was set up. There was a giant 149 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:27,680 Speaker 1: barbecue truck, all right. So this is a story that 150 00:10:27,760 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 1: is amazing that you're gonna like. It's a barbecue truck 151 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 1: from Rockport. Rockport is a town down on the Gulf Coast, 152 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 1: and Rockport when Hurricane Harvey hit, it devastated the Gulf 153 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:45,079 Speaker 1: Coast from from deep East Texas to south all the 154 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: way really to Corpus Christie. So that's a lot of 155 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:50,000 Speaker 1: and Rockport is right in there. It's by Port Ramsas 156 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 1: and MS Pass and Rockport was devastated by Hurricane Harvey. Well, 157 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: these guys, and these are big old Texans with big 158 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: old beards. They look like z the top. And they said, well, 159 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 1: you know when when Hurricane Harvey hit, there was a 160 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 1: group from Hunt, Texas, little town in the in the 161 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 1: hill country that came down to Rockport and set up 162 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 1: a food truck and fed us when we had lost 163 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 1: our homes. And so they got in a truck and 164 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:22,680 Speaker 1: drove up this giant smoker and griller and they were 165 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:27,560 Speaker 1: just giving away free barbecue. And one of the things 166 00:11:27,559 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 1: that's really cool. I was at in Rockport several times 167 00:11:31,920 --> 00:11:34,560 Speaker 1: after Hurricane Harven. I was in all the towns up 168 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 1: and down the Gulf Coast, but I was at that 169 00:11:37,400 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 1: those food trucks. So I don't recall visiting with someone 170 00:11:41,120 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 1: and hearing that they were from Hunt down in Rockport, 171 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 1: but you know what, in Rockport, they remembered that. And 172 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 1: that's something we see happening, just Texans coming together. The 173 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:55,960 Speaker 1: Cajun Navy from Louisiana came and and we're there helping 174 00:11:55,960 --> 00:12:00,440 Speaker 1: people out. That was incredible, And I just had chance. 175 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 1: I visited with a family, one dad who introduced me 176 00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:09,840 Speaker 1: to two little boys, and he said both of them 177 00:12:10,440 --> 00:12:14,000 Speaker 1: lost some of their closest friends in the flood, and 178 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: I just I said, you know, little kids, and they're 179 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 1: not much older than your boys. They shouldn't have to 180 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 1: deal with death and loss at that age. But I'll 181 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:28,920 Speaker 1: tell you, in that same parking lot at the Hunt store, 182 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:33,760 Speaker 1: there was a car that had written on the back 183 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 1: of it a Bible verse written in like shaving cream 184 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:40,160 Speaker 1: on the back window, and it was Isaiah forty three 185 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:47,760 Speaker 1: too that says, when you go through deep water, I 186 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: will be with you. And then that is Look, you 187 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: just asked folks to pray. Let me just underscore that 188 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:03,439 Speaker 1: for the moms and dads who have a yearning, gaping 189 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:06,520 Speaker 1: hole in their heart, I think there is no pain, 190 00:13:06,559 --> 00:13:11,440 Speaker 1: no agony like losing a child, and nothing will ever 191 00:13:11,480 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 1: fill that hole. That pain will never go away. But 192 00:13:15,240 --> 00:13:18,079 Speaker 1: they need love, they need support, they need friends, they 193 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 1: need families to hug them, to hold them tight, to 194 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 1: just give them a shoulder to cry on and to 195 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 1: hold them up. And I got to tell you, this 196 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:30,600 Speaker 1: is a time for the church. One of the reasons 197 00:13:30,679 --> 00:13:34,560 Speaker 1: Texas I think we are so resilient when facing natural 198 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:37,880 Speaker 1: disasters is because the church is strong in Texas and 199 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 1: you see, you see church a step. I started the 200 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 1: day actually by visiting with a number of chaplains who, look, 201 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:46,719 Speaker 1: you want to talk about it was brutal on the 202 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:49,360 Speaker 1: chaplains when you're dealing with moms and dads who've lost 203 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 1: their kids and they're just weeping. Even a chaplain of 204 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 1: a man or women of strong faith, I mean it 205 00:13:56,920 --> 00:14:00,160 Speaker 1: rips your heart out to be with a parent and 206 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:02,959 Speaker 1: who's lost a seven or eight year old daughter, and 207 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:08,680 Speaker 1: right down from the Hunt store, there was a church 208 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 1: that had a big sign free barbecue, lunch, and dinner. 209 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 1: All are welcome. And that's what the church should be doing, 210 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 1: is helping and clothing and comforting and taking care of 211 00:14:18,960 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 1: the needy, and that the church should always be doing that, 212 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 1: but especially in time of crisis. 213 00:14:25,400 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 2: Now, if you want to hear the rest of this conversation, 214 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 2: you can go back and listen to the full podcast 215 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 2: from earlier this week. Now onto story number two, Sinata, 216 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 2: I want to move to another big story, and that 217 00:14:37,600 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 2: is the rising threat that has just become oh so 218 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 2: real with federal law enforcement, and there was a shooter 219 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 2: that ambushed Texas Border Patrol agents. Words from elected officials, 220 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 2: in my opinion, have major influence but also consequence. We 221 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 2: have seen time and time again right now Democrats coming 222 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 2: out and saying that Ice are evil, stand up to Ice, 223 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 2: fight Ice. These are words coming from so many Democrats 224 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:12,680 Speaker 2: that are actually elected to office. 225 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 1: Well, listen, as you noted, words have consequence, and we 226 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 1: have seen an awful lot of democrats. We have seen 227 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 1: the corporate media denounce Ice, called them Nazis, call them 228 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 1: them goose stepping fascists, and unfortunately that rhetoric fuels a rage. 229 00:15:27,960 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 1: It fuels a rage that that that we have seen 230 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:36,000 Speaker 1: manifesting in violence over and over again leftists engaging in 231 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 1: active violence against ICE agents. So uh, just a few 232 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:46,560 Speaker 1: days ago, an active shooter opened fire on ICE agents 233 00:15:46,680 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 1: in McCallen, Texas. And and and here here here's the 234 00:15:49,600 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 1: story from Fox News. Active shooter killed an attempt to 235 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:57,000 Speaker 1: ambush Border Patrol agents in Texas. One McCallan police officer 236 00:15:57,040 --> 00:16:00,040 Speaker 1: wounded but in stable condition following a parent plan and 237 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 1: ambush at Rio Grand Valley facility. And here's what the 238 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 1: article says. An active shooter armed with tactical gear and 239 00:16:07,240 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 1: a rifle opened fire upon Border Patrol agents as they 240 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 1: arrived at a Border Patrol annex facility in McAllen, Texas 241 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: and the Rio Grand Valley on Monday. Law enforcement sources 242 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 1: say agents and local police returned fire and killed the gunman. 243 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 1: No federal agents were hit, but one McCallen police officer 244 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:29,560 Speaker 1: was struck. Law enforcement sources say the officer is in 245 00:16:29,640 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 1: stable condition. Quote. This morning, an individual open fire at 246 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 1: the entrance of the United States Border Patrol Sector Annex 247 00:16:36,920 --> 00:16:41,120 Speaker 1: in McCallen, Texas. Both border patrol agents and local police 248 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 1: helped neutralize the shooter to the Department of Homeland Security, 249 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 1: said a statement of Fox News. This is an ongoing 250 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 1: investigation led by the FBI. More information will be shared 251 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 1: as it becomes available. Now tell you, I have walked 252 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: into and out of that Border patrol facility in McCallen, 253 00:16:57,680 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: Texas multiple times. The fact that you have violent criminals, 254 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 1: and this is a criminal who lost his life because 255 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:08,160 Speaker 1: he showed up and wanted to shoot at law enforcement officials. 256 00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 1: He was doing so. We don't know this conclusively, but 257 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 1: we can certainly infer that he was doing so because 258 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 1: he's been listening to the extreme rhetoric that these are Nazis, 259 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:20,840 Speaker 1: and so he was like, you know what, if you've 260 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 1: got Nazis, let's kill the Nazis. That is the consequence 261 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 1: of the unhinged and deranged rhetoric on the left. 262 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:32,639 Speaker 2: Right now, you talk about that rhetoric, let's give actual quotes. 263 00:17:32,800 --> 00:17:36,000 Speaker 2: House Minority Leader Kim Jeffries of New York said employed 264 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:39,240 Speaker 2: people to quote fight the Trump administration in the streets 265 00:17:39,320 --> 00:17:42,840 Speaker 2: quote unquote. He also declared ice agents quote will be 266 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 2: unsuccessful and protecting their identities no matter what it takes, 267 00:17:48,119 --> 00:17:51,880 Speaker 2: advocating for docsing and putting their families at risk. Ice agents. 268 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:57,159 Speaker 2: Representative Jaypow of Washington called ICE agents quote unquote deranged 269 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:02,320 Speaker 2: and said it is quote inspiring to obstruct immigration enforcement. 270 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 2: Representative mc ivor of New Jersey, who was arrested in 271 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:10,920 Speaker 2: charged with forcibly impeding and interfering with federal officers outside 272 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 2: Night's attention facility, incited her supporters to quote shut down 273 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 2: the city because we are at war quote unquote, and 274 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:22,719 Speaker 2: even the former vice presidential candidate of the Minnesota Governor 275 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:25,920 Speaker 2: Tim Waltz, getting in on the action, called ICE agents 276 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:31,120 Speaker 2: the modern day Gestapo. Chicago's mayor this past week, Johnson 277 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:34,400 Speaker 2: accused the ICE agents of being quote unquote the secret 278 00:18:34,440 --> 00:18:38,639 Speaker 2: police and quote terrorizing our communities. And you add in 279 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:42,240 Speaker 2: Eric Swalwell of California, he said it was quote his 280 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:47,640 Speaker 2: priority to ensure ICE agents quote are no longer faceless, 281 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:52,639 Speaker 2: comparing them to some eighteen hundreds bank robbers or some 282 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:59,199 Speaker 2: KGB officers in Russia. Words have consequences, and this is 283 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:01,879 Speaker 2: the rhetoric come out from some of your colleagues in DC. 284 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:05,679 Speaker 1: Well, and not only do they have consequences with the 285 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 1: armshooter who was killed in McCallan, Texas. But in North Texas, 286 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:15,439 Speaker 1: eleven people were arrested for plotting to ambush to kill 287 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 1: ice correction officers, and I want to read from this 288 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:22,719 Speaker 1: story from the Daily Wire. Quote. Eleven people have been 289 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 1: arrested in what law enforcement officers described as a quote 290 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 1: planned ambush of corrections officers at an ice detention facility 291 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 1: in Alvarado, Texas on July fourth. One Alvarado police officer 292 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:38,199 Speaker 1: was shot in the neck during the attack and is 293 00:19:38,280 --> 00:19:42,360 Speaker 1: expected to survive. Quote. Early reports indicate that more than 294 00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:47,879 Speaker 1: a dozen massed individuals dressed in black arrived at the 295 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 1: Prairie Land Ice detention facility late Friday night and vandalized 296 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:55,080 Speaker 1: vehicles and security cameras in the parking lots. CBS News 297 00:19:55,119 --> 00:19:59,159 Speaker 1: reported the individuals launched fireworks in an apparent effort to 298 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 1: lure lawn enforcement. On July fifth, Deputy Attorney General Tom 299 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 1: Blanche posted on x quote we are closely monitoring the 300 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 1: attacks on DHS facilities in Prairieland, Texas and Portland, Oregon, 301 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 1: and are coordinating with USAOs and our law enforcement partners. 302 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 1: The Department has zero tolerance for assaults on federal officers 303 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 1: or property and will bring the full weight of the 304 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:29,160 Speaker 1: law against those responsible. On Monday, acting US Attorney Nancy 305 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:31,680 Speaker 1: Larson stated quote, We're here to tell you that late 306 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 1: at night on July fourth, Friday night, at approximately ten 307 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:38,680 Speaker 1: thirty seven pm, at Prairie Land Ice Detention Center in Alvarado, Texas, 308 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 1: ten to twelve individuals dressed in black military style clothing 309 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:49,119 Speaker 1: began shooting fireworks and engaging in acts of vandalism at 310 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 1: the facility. That was part of an organized attack. Today, 311 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:56,119 Speaker 1: my office has charged ten individuals with three counts of 312 00:20:56,119 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 1: attempted murder of a federal officer. Of the ten are 313 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:05,479 Speaker 1: also charged with three counts of discharging a firearm in 314 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 1: relation to a crime of violence. Each of these defendants 315 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 1: faces a mandatory prison term of ten years and up 316 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 1: to life in prison. An additional co conspirator was charged 317 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:20,359 Speaker 1: with obstruction of justice and conspiracy for attempting to conceal 318 00:21:20,480 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 1: and destroy evidence in relation to the attack, and faces 319 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:29,679 Speaker 1: up to ten years in prison. And she continued, quote, 320 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:35,199 Speaker 1: let's discuss the incident. It was a planned ambush with 321 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:41,400 Speaker 1: the intent to kill Ice. Corrections officers. Make no mistake, 322 00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 1: this was not a so called peaceful protest. It was 323 00:21:47,119 --> 00:21:51,400 Speaker 1: indeed an ambush. This is the violence we are seeing. 324 00:21:51,800 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 1: And it turns out when you call law enforcement officers 325 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 1: federal law enforcement officers that are keeping us safe, when 326 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:01,840 Speaker 1: you call them Nazis, when you call them gesta lunatics 327 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:05,399 Speaker 1: on the left, hear that, and sadly, we are saying 328 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:07,359 Speaker 1: over and over again, they are acting, and they're acting 329 00:22:07,359 --> 00:22:07,920 Speaker 1: with violence. 330 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 2: You look at even on Tuesday you had Democratic Senator 331 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:15,240 Speaker 2: Padilla of California and Corey Booker New Jersey. They introduced 332 00:22:15,240 --> 00:22:19,679 Speaker 2: that legislation to require ICE officers to quote display clearly 333 00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 2: visible IDs and not wear masks no matter what during 334 00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 2: their enforcement operations, accusing quote the Trump administration of alarming 335 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:31,880 Speaker 2: immigration enforcement tactics that have terrorized communities across California and 336 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 2: the nation. And we know what the left has done here. 337 00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 2: They want to dock these ICE agents. They're family members. 338 00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 2: They've been putting their kids even online and posting. People 339 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 2: been posting their home addresses hoping that basically people go 340 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 2: after the ICE agents who are just doing their jobs. 341 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:51,400 Speaker 2: That's how sick these people are. 342 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,439 Speaker 1: Well, listen, there's a simple choice. There's a choice for 343 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:57,680 Speaker 1: Americans all across the country. Who do you stand with? 344 00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 1: Do you stand with cops? Do you stand with law 345 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 1: enforcement agents? Do you stand with the men and women 346 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:06,600 Speaker 1: who risk their lives to keep us safe? You and 347 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:10,199 Speaker 1: I both stand with them? Or, as the Democrats have chosen, 348 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 1: do you stand with illegal immigrants? Do you stand with murderers? 349 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 1: Do you stand with rapists? Do you stand with child molesters? 350 00:23:16,240 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 1: Do you stand with Venezuelan gang members who are engaged 351 00:23:19,320 --> 00:23:24,080 Speaker 1: in human trafficking? Sadly, the Democrats and inexplicably, they've decided 352 00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:26,679 Speaker 1: to stand with the criminals and not law enforcement, and 353 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 1: we're seeing the consequences as before. 354 00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 2: If you want to hear the rest of this conversation 355 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 2: on this topic, you can go back and dow the 356 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,440 Speaker 2: podcasts from earlier this week to hear the entire thing. 357 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 2: I want to get back to the big story number 358 00:23:40,080 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 2: three of the week you may have missed, Sinata. I 359 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 2: want to get into this and get your reaction to 360 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 2: the FBI launching an investigation into John Brennan into James 361 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:54,119 Speaker 2: Comy over the Trump Russia probe. I think we need 362 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,879 Speaker 2: to go back and just remind people of what they 363 00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:01,320 Speaker 2: were peddling that they knew was false. Basically, in my opinion, 364 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:03,880 Speaker 2: it was. It was a coup attempt against the American 365 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 2: people who chose Donald Trump in sixteen to be their president. 366 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 2: They didn't like it, and they're like, no worries, you know, 367 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:12,320 Speaker 2: we'll do what the least of page Peter Strucks were doing, right, 368 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 2: We'll fix it. We'll take care of it after the fact, 369 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,640 Speaker 2: after he gets sworn in, and we're gonna go after 370 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:19,800 Speaker 2: him and we're gonna undermine him. We're gonna get him impeached, 371 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:21,720 Speaker 2: and that'll be all fine. 372 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 1: Well, I got to say, this is an astonishing story. 373 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:28,199 Speaker 1: John Brennan was the head of the CIA, James Comy 374 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 1: was the head of the FBI. Both of them are 375 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:36,400 Speaker 1: right now under active criminal investigations. Here's what Fox News 376 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:36,919 Speaker 1: has reported. 377 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:37,440 Speaker 4: Quote. 378 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 1: Former CIA director John Brennan and former FBI director James 379 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 1: Comy are under criminal investigation for potential wrongdoing related to 380 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 1: the Trump Russia probe, including allegedly making false statements to Congress. 381 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:56,680 Speaker 1: Justice Department sources told Fox News Digital CIA director John 382 00:24:56,760 --> 00:25:00,520 Speaker 1: Ratcliffe referred evidence of wrongdoing by Brennan to FBI director 383 00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:05,439 Speaker 1: Cash ptel for potential prosecution, DOJ sources told Fox News Digital. 384 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 1: The sources said the referral was received, and told Fox 385 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 1: News to Digital that a criminal investigation into Brennan was 386 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:17,360 Speaker 1: opened and is underway. DOJ sources decline to provide further details. 387 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:21,120 Speaker 1: It is unclear at this point if the investigation spans 388 00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 1: beyond his alleged false statements to Congress. As for Comy, 389 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:30,119 Speaker 1: DOJ sources told Fox News Digital that an investigation in 390 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:32,960 Speaker 1: the former director is underway, but could not share details 391 00:25:33,000 --> 00:25:36,639 Speaker 1: of what specifically is being probed. The full scope of 392 00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:40,399 Speaker 1: the criminal investigations that Brennan and Comy is unclear, but 393 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:44,920 Speaker 1: two sources described the FBI's view of the duo's interactions 394 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 1: as a quote conspiracy, which could open up a wide 395 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:54,160 Speaker 1: range of potential prosecutorial options. The FBI and the CIA 396 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:55,439 Speaker 1: declined comment. 397 00:25:56,280 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 2: I mean, this is massive on so many different levels. 398 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:03,200 Speaker 2: And John Brennan, by the way, he went on TV 399 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 2: on MSNBC, and it was pretty funny because it was 400 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 2: like he was just playing dumb and it was like, 401 00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:12,560 Speaker 2: I don't even know why they would be investigating me. 402 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 2: I don't know what they would be looking at. I 403 00:26:14,480 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 2: don't understand how this is even even a thing in 404 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,440 Speaker 2: his own words, And in fact, I'm going to play 405 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:22,840 Speaker 2: it because I want you to hear it. I want 406 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:26,359 Speaker 2: to get your reaction. Here's John Brennan MSNBC after finding 407 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,080 Speaker 2: out that he's the target of an investigation. 408 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:32,120 Speaker 4: Believe if there is an investigation that people will be questioned. 409 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 4: I would be questioned about it. But again I've had 410 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 4: no contact from them. But again I testified in front 411 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 4: of many many congressional committees in the House and the 412 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 4: Senate over the years, and I continue to explain exactly 413 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,399 Speaker 4: what we did during this process, why we tried to 414 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:51,719 Speaker 4: make sure we stay true to our intelligence responsibilities and 415 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:53,680 Speaker 4: that we were not going to do anything at all 416 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,200 Speaker 4: to try to interfere in that election. And again, it 417 00:26:56,680 --> 00:26:58,919 Speaker 4: was a challenging time, but also one I think that 418 00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:02,760 Speaker 4: the the people who actually worked this, both in terms 419 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 4: of trying to collect intelligence prior to the election and 420 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 4: then the ones who put together intell assessment, they really, 421 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 4: I think showed the best of what the intelligence community 422 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 4: and what CIA is made of. So again I am 423 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:18,199 Speaker 4: clueless about what it is exactly that they may be 424 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 4: investigating before. 425 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 2: That may be the fastest center I've ever heard John 426 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 2: Brennan speak on TV ever, and I've watched him a 427 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,360 Speaker 2: lot over the years. That seemed like a very nervous 428 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 2: man to me. 429 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:31,679 Speaker 1: Well, then let me give a little more background on 430 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 1: who John Brennan is. He was the director of the 431 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 1: CIA from twenty thirteen to twenty seventeen under Barack Obama. Now, 432 00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:43,880 Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy six, John Brennan was a young man. 433 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 1: Nineteen seventy six, you were not alive, Is that right? Ben? 434 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 3: I was not. 435 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 1: Now, now you're enough of a political student and scholar. 436 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,920 Speaker 1: Let me ask you who were the presidential candidates in 437 00:27:56,000 --> 00:27:56,920 Speaker 1: nineteen seventy six? 438 00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:03,920 Speaker 2: Jimmy Carter? Yeah, all right, and on the Republican side. 439 00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 2: I love when you play these games with me. M 440 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:09,720 Speaker 2: did Reagan was Reagan seventy six as well? 441 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:14,119 Speaker 1: No? No, he so Reagan ran, but he lost. It 442 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,040 Speaker 1: was Ford, It was Ford. Ford was the incumbent presidents. 443 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,320 Speaker 1: Remember Richard Nixon had been president. He resigned, so Ford 444 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,040 Speaker 1: was the incumbent president. Reagan primary Ford, but he lost 445 00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:27,119 Speaker 1: in that primary. So the general election was Gerald Ford 446 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 1: versus Jimmy Carter. Now, let me ask you, all right, 447 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 1: in that election, who would you vote. 448 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:35,639 Speaker 2: For, I'm gonna probably go with a Republican there, not 449 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 2: Jimmy Carter. 450 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,640 Speaker 1: Yeah. Look, although I will say, and by the way, 451 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 1: do you know this is my first political memory. I'm 452 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 1: about ten years older than you are. My first political 453 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 1: memory is when I was five years old, nineteen seventy six, 454 00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 1: and my mother voted for Jimmy Carter. My mother is 455 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,440 Speaker 1: a strong conservative. She just thought Gerald Ford was an idiot. 456 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:57,960 Speaker 1: And I remember my father, my father, who's an immigrant 457 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 1: from Cuba. He was not yet a US citizen today, 458 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 1: but he was not in seventy six, and my father 459 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 1: was furious because he felt like my mom had the 460 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 1: family's vote and she voted for Jimmy Carter. It's funny. 461 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 1: My mom is ninety now, and she's incredible and a 462 00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:16,120 Speaker 1: wonderful conservative and incredible person. But when I bring this up, 463 00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 1: she's like, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I didn't know. Jimmy 464 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 1: Carter was an absolute disaster. He was a left wing wacko. 465 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:27,800 Speaker 1: He was the worst president this country had ever seen 466 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 1: until Joe Biden. Joe Biden managed to be worse than 467 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 1: Jimmy Carter. Now, how is this relevant to John Brennan, Well, 468 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,800 Speaker 1: John Brennan was in college at the time. He was 469 00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 1: faced with a choice between Gerald Ford and ultra left 470 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 1: wing crazy Jimmy Carter. What do you think, John Brennan. 471 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 2: Did, I'm ready give me the punchline here. 472 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 1: He cast his vote for a guy named Gus Hall. 473 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 1: Do you know who Gus Hall was? 474 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 3: I do not. 475 00:29:57,720 --> 00:30:02,560 Speaker 1: He was the presidential candidate for the Communist Party USA. 476 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:04,200 Speaker 2: And there's your sign. 477 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 1: So John Brennan decided Jimmy Carter is two right wing 478 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 1: for him, and he voted for someone who I'm not 479 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:16,040 Speaker 1: calling him a communist. He was the nominee of the 480 00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:19,920 Speaker 1: Communist Party. And John Brennan said, I want America governed 481 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:24,040 Speaker 1: by a communist president. That's who Barack Obama put in 482 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 1: charge of the CIA, and that's who was played an 483 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 1: integral role in orchestrating the whole Russia Gate fraud. And 484 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 1: it's just it's important to understand just how extreme and 485 00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 1: radical this guy is. I got to tell you, I 486 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 1: don't know. To be honest, I don't know anybody else 487 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 1: in public life who thought Jimmy Carter was too conservative. 488 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 1: John Brennan is literally to the left of every Democrat senator, 489 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:56,680 Speaker 1: every Democrat House member. Every single person I've ever encountered 490 00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 1: in public life, the lefty loons, all voted for Jimmy 491 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:03,280 Speaker 1: Carter except for John Brennan, who said, Nope, we need 492 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 1: a full on communist. That's who this guy is. 493 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:10,880 Speaker 2: Final question on this how concerned do you think these 494 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 2: two individuals should be about this investigation or is this 495 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 2: one of those moments where you say, Okay, yeah, there's investigation, 496 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 2: but I don't have to worry because nothing ever really 497 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 2: happens to us. When were the elites? 498 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 1: Well, listen, the greatest exposure they have is for lying 499 00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,760 Speaker 1: to Congress, because lying to Congress you're under oath, and 500 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:30,880 Speaker 1: lying under oath that carries a prison sentence that carries 501 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:34,040 Speaker 1: up to five years in prison. James Clapper, who was 502 00:31:34,040 --> 00:31:37,880 Speaker 1: the Director of National Intelligence under Barack Obama, I think 503 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 1: the evidence is very clear that he lied to Congress. 504 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 1: Whether John Brennan did, whether James Comy did, I think 505 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:48,440 Speaker 1: this investigation will reveal. It will depend upon There's no 506 00:31:48,600 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 1: doubt they were terrible heads of the CIA and the FBI. 507 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,360 Speaker 1: Whether they committed criminal conduct or not, I think that 508 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 1: that is the purpose of this investigation. But I got 509 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 1: to say It is a big damn deal that the 510 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:05,280 Speaker 1: former head of the FBI and the former head of 511 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:09,640 Speaker 1: the CIA are being criminally investigated for felony conduct. That's 512 00:32:09,680 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 1: what's happening right now. 513 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 2: As always, thank you for listening to Verdict with Center, 514 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 2: Ted Cruz Ben Ferguson with you don't forget to deal 515 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 2: with my podcast and you can listen to my podcasts 516 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 2: every other day you're not listening to Verdict or each 517 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 2: day when you listen to Verdict. Afterwards, I'd love to 518 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 2: have you as a listener to again the Ben Ferguson podcasts, 519 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,480 Speaker 2: and we will see you back here on Monday morning.