1 00:00:01,960 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 2 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:10,280 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong, Joe Getty. 3 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 2: Arm Strong, and Jetty, I know he Armstrong and Yetty. 4 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 2: That's right. 5 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:26,600 Speaker 3: Halloween and the election are almost here. So whether it's 6 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 3: trigger treaters or campaign workers, when that doorbell rings, you 7 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 3: hit the lights and pretend you're not home. 8 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:39,880 Speaker 2: That's what we do. I love Halloween before the election. 9 00:00:40,120 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 3: First you egg someone's house, and then you figure out 10 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:43,720 Speaker 3: which candidate would make those eggs cheaper. 11 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 2: But it should be fun Halloween. 12 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 3: There's a chance you could see someone dresses the Menendez brothers, 13 00:00:51,960 --> 00:00:53,520 Speaker 3: and then there's a chance you could. 14 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:55,120 Speaker 2: Actually see the actual Menando's brother. 15 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:59,959 Speaker 4: Really could happen. Yeah, we're about to talk about that. 16 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 4: I don't I don't like the cynical view of a Halloween. 17 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 4: I love kids coming to my house. I'm not going 18 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 4: to turn off the lights and hide. Absolutely not freaking 19 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:09,760 Speaker 4: love it. And I unfortunately I'm in a cul de 20 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 4: sac sort of thing now where I just don't I 21 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 4: don't think any kids are gonna come my direction, which 22 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:14,360 Speaker 4: is disappointing. 23 00:01:15,280 --> 00:01:18,399 Speaker 5: Yeah, we accidentally moved from a hood where like people 24 00:01:18,440 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 5: were trucked in to go door to door, which ended 25 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 5: up being a bit much, honestly, But then move to 26 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 5: a hood where nobody does, and it was sad and depressing. 27 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, neither one of my kids. 28 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 4: My oldest is going to run around with his friends 29 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 4: and do some stuff, but he's going on fifteen, and 30 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:37,479 Speaker 4: then my going on thirteen year old is thinking he's 31 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 4: too old for it too. It's disappointing for me. Those 32 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 4: were good times, man, when I got some neighbors right now, 33 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 4: they got the little kids like probably probably like six 34 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 4: and four or something like that, and they're so excited 35 00:01:51,120 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 4: about getting dressed up. One of them's going to be 36 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 4: the Mandalorian and the girl's going to be a princess, 37 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 4: And just I loved that. 38 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 5: If it were not such a short chapter in your life, 39 00:01:59,360 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 5: it would not be so precious. 40 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:03,760 Speaker 4: True, if it went on for decades, you'd think, oh 41 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 4: my god, it's Halloween again. 42 00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:11,040 Speaker 5: Exactly exactly. That's the bargain we strike with the universe. 43 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 5: I'm Joe Getty or something like that. Meanwhile, the Menenda's 44 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:16,799 Speaker 5: brothers who shot gunned their parents, they see they were 45 00:02:16,880 --> 00:02:21,560 Speaker 5: past the whole charming uh trigger trading age and they 46 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:24,640 Speaker 5: murdered their parents. So so here's it is a shame, 47 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 5: it doesn't last longer. 48 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 2: You're right. Here's the CBS Evening News. 49 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 5: Yes, last year we were trigger treating in ghost costumes. 50 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 4: This year they're shot gunning us. Oh the kids grow 51 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 4: up so fast. Last year, it seems like yesterday you 52 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 4: were Spider Man. Now there's a gun in my face. 53 00:02:39,320 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 4: Here's the CBS News laying out the story. 54 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 1: Some prosecutors in the DA's office oppose any release, adamant 55 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: that this was a crime about money and not abuse. 56 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 1: Family members have been mostly united, and at least one 57 00:02:52,880 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: family member is against their release. The brother's attorney says 58 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:59,360 Speaker 1: they could be home as early as Thanksgiving. The legal 59 00:02:59,400 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: experts we've spoken with say that's unlikely. So whiteesnaxt. The 60 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:05,399 Speaker 1: case will be handed over to a judge who will 61 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:07,519 Speaker 1: hold a hearing in about four weeks time. 62 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 4: So I haven't watched any of the men Ninda's brother's stuff. 63 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:15,040 Speaker 4: Somebody is to Katie, you've talked about it, but somebody 64 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:17,520 Speaker 4: told me the other day they watched it. And this 65 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 4: is somebody that like worked in has worked in a 66 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 4: various jobs where I mean, they're not they're exposed to, 67 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:28,360 Speaker 4: you know, rough stuff sometimes, and they said they wish 68 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:31,079 Speaker 4: they hadn't Like, they heard things they're never going to 69 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:33,720 Speaker 4: be able to forget that they wish they hadn't heard. 70 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 2: Was it that bad, Katie? Some of the descriptions of. 71 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:39,760 Speaker 6: Yes, I am similar to that where I've I've been 72 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 6: around crime and all this stuff and heard horrible stories 73 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 6: growing up, and I had to turn it off a 74 00:03:44,960 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 6: couple of times. So they enjoyed that on a Friday, 75 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 6: very very descriptive to the abuse. 76 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's mostly about how, if it's real, what they 77 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:59,720 Speaker 4: claim their dad was doing to them as kids is 78 00:03:59,760 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 4: the sort of thing that you'll wish you hadn't heard. 79 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 4: So I'm not God, I'm not gonna watch it. But 80 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 4: I thought we were talking about the utter brutality of 81 00:04:06,720 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 4: the slayings. No, no funny you for everyone. No, everything 82 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:15,360 Speaker 4: I've heard is the it's the abuse they claim, the descriptions, 83 00:04:15,400 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 4: the very detailed descriptions of what dad was making them 84 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 4: do throughout their childhoods, and if it's true, you know, 85 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 4: part of the reason I imagine they go so far. The 86 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 4: goal clearly of these these shows is to make you, 87 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 4: you know, either feel like they ought to get out 88 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 4: or or or a way to justify why they would 89 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 4: kill their parents. 90 00:04:36,240 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 2: Seems like yeah, yeah, and. 91 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 4: So has the mood turned that much. That is the 92 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 4: reason that the DA came out. Yes, Dan thinks they 93 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:48,280 Speaker 4: served their debts of society. I suppose we should hear 94 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:48,640 Speaker 4: from him. 95 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:53,120 Speaker 2: What number is that? Twenty eight? 96 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 7: We're going to recommend to the court that the life 97 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 7: without the possibility for all be removed and they would 98 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:05,280 Speaker 7: be sentenced for murder, which because there are two murders involved, 99 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 7: that will be fifty years to life. However, because of 100 00:05:09,000 --> 00:05:12,719 Speaker 7: their age under the law, since they were under twenty 101 00:05:12,760 --> 00:05:16,600 Speaker 7: six years of age at the time that the scrimes occurred, 102 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 7: they will be eligible for parole. 103 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 2: You needed. 104 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 4: That's the most discussed cone. Yeah, that's the most distracting 105 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 4: voice ever. 106 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:28,039 Speaker 2: Uh oh yeah, yeah. 107 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 5: His uh George Soros sponsored Marxist trying to tear the 108 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:36,080 Speaker 5: system down, releasing criminals into the streets, empty the prisons 109 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 5: is annoying, but his voice is more annoying. 110 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:41,080 Speaker 2: It's so distracting. I have trouble focusing. He could be tense. 111 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 2: This is important information you need to save your life, 112 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 2: and all. 113 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 4: I'd be thinking is same as Piggy just say, miss 114 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 4: Piggy ones, you've got part of the voice, the Kermit part, 115 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:53,320 Speaker 4: but you've got to get the weirdly eastern European parts 116 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:58,839 Speaker 4: as well. I released criminals onto the streets because I 117 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:00,839 Speaker 4: am a Marxist anyway. 118 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 5: So what he made reference to there was one of 119 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 5: many fine lovely turned criminals loose California laws. If you're 120 00:06:09,360 --> 00:06:11,719 Speaker 5: under twenty six, when you commit a heinous crime, you're 121 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:15,880 Speaker 5: eligible for youthful parole, also known as the Hey gang 122 00:06:15,960 --> 00:06:19,360 Speaker 5: bangers and cartels, be sure to have your younger members do. 123 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 2: The murders law. Oh good one. Yeah, anyway, so. 124 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:28,840 Speaker 5: These guys would be eligible for a youthful parole under 125 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 5: California law immediately. The hearing on the matter could be 126 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:36,520 Speaker 5: held in thirty to forty five days. LA Superior Court 127 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 5: judge will ultimately decide whether the brothers will be resent Well. 128 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:41,920 Speaker 4: I'm looking at ABC right now and they've got up there. 129 00:06:41,960 --> 00:06:43,719 Speaker 4: They're talking to some of the family members and it 130 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 4: says new hope for the Mennendez brothers. Well, that wording 131 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:51,799 Speaker 4: implies that they are somehow wrongly being held or it's 132 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:55,239 Speaker 4: a tragedy. Right, you wouldn't put new hope. I wouldn't 133 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 4: word it that way unless I was pro them getting out. 134 00:06:58,720 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that maybe, I don't know. 135 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:02,719 Speaker 5: I'd say new hope for anybody who has new hope, 136 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 5: whether they're guilty or not. But I despise George Giscon 137 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 5: and everything he had he stands for. I think he 138 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 5: and his philosophy are one of the greatest threats to 139 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 5: the United States Neo Marxism. 140 00:07:11,600 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 2: But what he said is correct. 141 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 5: He said I'll never excuse murder, and these brutal, premeditated murders, 142 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 5: they are appropriately sentenced. At the time when they were tried, 143 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 5: they got life without the possibility of parole. I just 144 00:07:23,320 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 5: think that given the current state of the law, and 145 00:07:25,160 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 5: given our assessment of their behavior in prison, they deserve 146 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 5: the opportunity to be reevaluated and perhaps reintegrated into the community. 147 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 5: The way sexual abuse, sexual torture, etc. Of victims is 148 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 5: considered in sentencing has changed a great deal in the 149 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 5: last thirty years. 150 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 2: So he's not wrong. 151 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 5: Some of the changes in the law and practice you 152 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:51,440 Speaker 5: might agree with, you might disagree with, but he's not wrong. 153 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 2: Well, I think I'm fine with the direction it's gone there. 154 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 4: But the question is whether they are actually abused like 155 00:07:57,400 --> 00:08:00,320 Speaker 4: this or they made it up. Having researched it would 156 00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 4: appear to come up with a great horrific story to 157 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 4: justify killing their parents so they could go driving around 158 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 4: and convertible and go to the mall. 159 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:11,360 Speaker 5: With new found unearned riches. Yeah, and there's a great 160 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 5: deal of evidence that, Yeah, their defense was entirely premeditated. 161 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:19,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, which is a heck of a thing as opposed 162 00:08:19,280 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 2: to organic. 163 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:26,360 Speaker 5: Real On the other hand, I've got to admit I 164 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 5: really don't feel like relitigating the entire case and all 165 00:08:29,080 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 5: the evidence. 166 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 2: I'll let the LA Superior Court handle it. 167 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 7: Well. 168 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 4: It's getting a tremendous amount of attention though, so I 169 00:08:35,640 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 4: think a lot of people are relitigating the whole thing. 170 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 171 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:41,320 Speaker 4: Premeditated is the wrong way to look at it, because 172 00:08:41,320 --> 00:08:45,080 Speaker 4: you could be premeditated and still justified in my mind, 173 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:47,480 Speaker 4: of course. You know, in fact, it probably be a 174 00:08:47,480 --> 00:08:49,280 Speaker 4: smart thing to do to plan it out rather than 175 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 4: do it in a fit of rage where you might 176 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:53,800 Speaker 4: be unsuccessful or kill yourself. 177 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 5: Or whatever, although that makes it murder and not defensible. Yeah, 178 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 5: we're talking about I'm talking about the defense was premeditated. 179 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 5: We were sexually abused, therefore we had to kill them. 180 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 5: Was plotted out as opposed to being legit. 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I guess it would all 219 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 4: come down to whether or not. Well, either way, if 220 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 4: one of the Menendez brothers is moving into your neighborhood, 221 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:55,760 Speaker 4: are you concerned. 222 00:10:59,200 --> 00:11:00,400 Speaker 2: Somewhat? Yeah? 223 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 5: Yeah, just because they've been in prison for decades, and 224 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 5: you don't like sometimes small time criminals become big time 225 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 5: criminals in prison. 226 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:14,719 Speaker 2: I wouldn't be overly concerned. I don't think I would be. 227 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 4: Rightly or only I don't think. I mean, seems like 228 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 4: such a unique circumstance either way around. I don't know 229 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 4: if I feel like they're, you know, acts wielding lunatics 230 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 4: that are going to run the streets hurting me or 231 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 4: my family. Yeah, it's interesting because I also don't think 232 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:35,960 Speaker 4: they ought to get out if they did it. The 233 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 4: fundamental question here answers your question. Are they a couple 234 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 4: of psychopaths who happened to be brothers who saw on 235 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 4: opportunity to get lots of money and because they're psychopaths, 236 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 4: they don't care about human life, which is what the prosecution. 237 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 5: Successfully claimed. Or are they child sex abuse victims who 238 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 5: and the worst act can ever imagine, Yeah, lost their 239 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:05,960 Speaker 5: minds and killed their parents. Whether it's justified or not 240 00:12:06,040 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 5: under the law, you can understand it. If it's the 241 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 5: first part, yeah, I'm concerned they're in my neighborhood. If 242 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 5: it's the second thing, no, I'm not the least concerned. 243 00:12:13,360 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 4: Right, Well, if it's the way, if it's what they 244 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 4: describe happened, you would make anyone crazy, Yeah, anyone murderously crazy. 245 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:25,480 Speaker 2: So yeah, that's what the whole thing hinges on. 246 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 4: Just overall, this phenomenon of of NPR radio shows or 247 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:36,320 Speaker 4: Netflix specials or whatever, digging up old crimes and you know, 248 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:38,880 Speaker 4: trying to push them one direction or another, is all 249 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 4: about the podcasts man. It's yeah, the various podcasts. It's 250 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 4: a hot thing right now, no doubt about that. 251 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, all. 252 00:12:46,320 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 5: Right, there's a new But we gotta work in a 253 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 5: murdered ours. That's that's the only thing we don't have. 254 00:12:51,800 --> 00:12:54,240 Speaker 5: Michael kills somebody would you only we'll hunch you down 255 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 5: and bring it adjustice only murders in the radio station. 256 00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:57,040 Speaker 5: We'll get it going. 257 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:01,080 Speaker 4: There's a new poll out half of Americans think Trump's 258 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:07,080 Speaker 4: a fascist. So okay, made me tired just saying it. 259 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 5: If you missed last hour, we did a with all 260 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 5: Do Modusty, great feature on how the Republican gets called 261 00:13:15,200 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 5: a fascist or a Nazi or Hitler every single election. 262 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 2: For like more than the past half century. 263 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's always it's something that is bored Romney Paul 264 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 4: monsters like that of Paul Ryan, monstrous fascist. So please, 265 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 4: it's hilarious when you look back on it. Yeah, that 266 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:38,240 Speaker 4: was our two. You could get it in podcast Warm 267 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 4: Armstrong and Getty on demand. Before we get to important news, 268 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 4: Katie Green, Katie, Katie the news Lady, Katie Green the 269 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 4: news Machine is about to have her first pumpkin spiced 270 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:54,920 Speaker 4: anything of the fall season. 271 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 2: And what is it? 272 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:59,559 Speaker 6: Uh, it is pumpkin spice creamer in my coffee. 273 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:04,440 Speaker 2: There you go, I'll fall like, Oh, that's so good. 274 00:14:04,679 --> 00:14:05,680 Speaker 4: Oh, it's so good. 275 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 2: Who did I hear the other day? It's a flavor bolly. 276 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 4: It was in honor of former producer Sean somebody smart 277 00:14:14,160 --> 00:14:19,120 Speaker 4: who I respect used the phrase the other day. Chemicals 278 00:14:19,200 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 4: designed to trick your brain into believing it is a 279 00:14:23,760 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 4: flavor that reminds you of the season, which kind of 280 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 4: takes the fun out of it, because that's what it is. 281 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 4: There's no pumpkin or anything in anything. 282 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 2: Mostly don't kill this for me. 283 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 6: I'm not listening to you. 284 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:37,720 Speaker 2: That's what he does, Kate. 285 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 6: I'm here to put a stop to it. 286 00:14:40,640 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 2: No, jack down. 287 00:14:42,000 --> 00:14:44,400 Speaker 4: You can't have pumpkin stuff obviously that has pumpkin in it, 288 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 4: But a lot of your pumpkin stuff has there's a 289 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 4: pumpkin hasn't come within a mile. 290 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 5: He roams across the countryside at night like the headless horseman, 291 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 5: seeking out joy, and wherever he finds it, he extinguishes it. 292 00:14:57,800 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 2: That's true, is science talk. 293 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:02,440 Speaker 6: I don't care if a pumpkin hasn't come near this dreamer. 294 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 6: It tastes like pumpkin spice, and I'm happy with it. 295 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 4: That that's true what Joe said about trying to stop 296 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:08,760 Speaker 4: other people's joy. 297 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 8: I know. 298 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:14,440 Speaker 4: Also, I am really trying hard to not have my 299 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 4: body fall prey to chemicals designed in a corporation to 300 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 4: trick my brain into making me want to eat more 301 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:23,320 Speaker 4: of it. 302 00:15:23,360 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 2: Big food is evil. What's that? 303 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 4: Do you mean more fast food than it? 304 00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 6: Oh? 305 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:28,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, buddy, I know. 306 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 2: That's why I need to fight it harder. 307 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 4: Uh But well, like chips and stuff like that, anything 308 00:15:34,320 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 4: like that, where it's just I don't know. I should 309 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 4: find the sixty minute segment from years ago and and 310 00:15:39,920 --> 00:15:42,560 Speaker 4: then link it because it's so damned interesting. They figured 311 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 4: out how to make it have a burst of flavor 312 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 4: that your brain reacts to more than any other flavor 313 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:50,640 Speaker 4: because of evolutionary reasons and then make the flavor go 314 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 4: away instantly so you get the burst, and then it 315 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:55,280 Speaker 4: instantly goes away so that you crave more of it. 316 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 4: You're completely I'm completely being manipulated by these things and 317 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 4: it's so bad for me. 318 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 5: So a bang bang at KFC, then Domino's. Yes, a 319 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 5: bag of chips. 320 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 6: Now Joe and my brains are hanging out together because 321 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 6: that was the exactly where I was going to go. 322 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 6: I need to not do all of those. Five yeah, 323 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:17,040 Speaker 6: I five. Well, Jack, this has been fun. Thank you 324 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 6: for killing my life and dreams. 325 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 2: This has been fun. 326 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:23,960 Speaker 4: So I actually had Katie confirm this because I saw 327 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 4: it yesterday and I never got around to confirming whether 328 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 4: it was true or not. The La Times declines to 329 00:16:28,560 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 4: endorse Kamala Harris, okay, right about this man, and so 330 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 4: the interesting thing is now the editorial chief has quit 331 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:37,360 Speaker 4: over that it's true, because I thought that might be 332 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 4: one of those things where it's not true and they're 333 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 4: jerking around. You have to confirm everything you see now, 334 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 4: absolutely everything you see. 335 00:16:43,760 --> 00:16:44,560 Speaker 2: But it is true. 336 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 4: And there's an article in the New York Times today 337 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 4: because this woman used to work at the New York 338 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 4: Times and went back to her friends and say, here's 339 00:16:52,040 --> 00:16:56,640 Speaker 4: what went down. The owner wouldn't allow them to endorse. 340 00:16:57,000 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 2: They didn't. 341 00:16:57,440 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 4: He didn't want to endorse anyone. It wasn't like a 342 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 4: pro Trump. 343 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 5: But he wanted like a side by side pro and 344 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:08,080 Speaker 5: con of each one's service and stances policies. 345 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:13,400 Speaker 4: So yeah, the owner went to the editorial board and said, 346 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 4: I want you to draft a factual analysis of all 347 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 4: the positive and negative policies of each candidate during their 348 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:21,120 Speaker 4: tenures at the White House and how these policies affected 349 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 4: the nation, Which sounds like a fantastic thing to do 350 00:17:24,600 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 4: if you could even try to do it in kind 351 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:30,280 Speaker 4: of a non partisan way. And with this clear and 352 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 4: non partisan information side by side, our readers could decide 353 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 4: who they think is worthy to be president for the 354 00:17:34,840 --> 00:17:37,919 Speaker 4: next four years. Instead of adopting this path as suggested, 355 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:40,960 Speaker 4: the editorial board chose to remain silent. And I accept 356 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:44,119 Speaker 4: their decision. So I guess because they didn't want to 357 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:47,840 Speaker 4: present any positive stuff for Trump or something, or it 358 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 4: was too much work. I don't know why they refused 359 00:17:49,840 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 4: to play along with the owner. 360 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:57,000 Speaker 5: I loved the owner's idea, but the editorial director gals. 361 00:17:57,280 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 5: What she wanted to do is the more traditional thing newspapers. Uh, 362 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 5: And she couldn't accept that dictate from the owners, so 363 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 5: she quit. 364 00:18:04,800 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 2: That's fine, everybody's happy, go work somewhere else. Well. 365 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:09,919 Speaker 4: She also said that these are very dangerous times and 366 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:10,720 Speaker 4: we can't be doing this. 367 00:18:10,800 --> 00:18:17,400 Speaker 8: So she clearly hitler, Let's do a poll free, Paul, 368 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:30,680 Speaker 8: no tax on tips, no tax on overtime, no tax 369 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 8: on social Security benefits. 370 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:38,680 Speaker 2: Mas, listen to that proud that's in Vegas. 371 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 4: So he said that there's a hoping to win Nevada, 372 00:18:42,840 --> 00:18:46,080 Speaker 4: which I guess looks pretty good in the private polling 373 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:47,080 Speaker 4: for the Republicans. 374 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of that stuff could never happen. 375 00:18:50,760 --> 00:18:54,400 Speaker 5: But to you in real life, I have never run 376 00:18:54,440 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 5: into anyone that I recall who's in favor of taxing 377 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:04,919 Speaker 5: social Security benefits. The reaction to that very concept is unanimous. 378 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:06,639 Speaker 2: It makes no sense whatsoever. 379 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 5: Wait a minute, you take this money from me, whether 380 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 5: I like it or not, and my money that I'm 381 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 5: supposed to be having old and allegedly you're gonna give 382 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 5: it back to me at some point so I don't 383 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 5: starve when I'm retired. But you're not gonna get any 384 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 5: decent returns on it like I could, and then you're 385 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:27,159 Speaker 5: gonna give it to me and tax me on it 386 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 5: like it's income. 387 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:29,919 Speaker 2: Explain that to me. 388 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:33,960 Speaker 5: Please not to mention the paperwork involved, you know what? 389 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:35,880 Speaker 5: Or why don't you just take out the amount you're 390 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 5: gonna tax or whatever. It's just it is such a 391 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:43,680 Speaker 5: fuster clock. Pardon me, it's frustrating anyway. Democracy doesn't work. 392 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 5: Monarchy Now, I thought this was a really good insight. 393 00:19:49,600 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 5: Bjorn Lomberg happened to write a piece that I came across. 394 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 5: But and this is somehow kind of passed by me. 395 00:19:57,080 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 5: One typically divisive topic has gone pretty much unmentioned in 396 00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 5: the last couple of months of the campaign, and that's 397 00:20:03,840 --> 00:20:04,679 Speaker 5: climate change. 398 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 2: Why you're wrong. 399 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 4: The UN is out just in the last few minutes 400 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:10,080 Speaker 4: saying the world is now in a climate crunch time. 401 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:16,119 Speaker 4: Greenhouse gases have hit unprecedented levels now in climate crunch time. 402 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 5: The video appeals come from the front office, right, the 403 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 5: coaches can't ask for an appeal during climate crunch time? 404 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:27,880 Speaker 2: Or how does that work? What does that mean? UN 405 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:29,520 Speaker 2: needs to shut up? Anyway. 406 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:32,600 Speaker 5: The fact that Trump isn't on it is no surprise 407 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 5: to anybody. But the old Kamala isn't even mentioning it 408 00:20:38,840 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 5: is notable and it's revealing, well, is it. 409 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:44,399 Speaker 4: Because it doesn't motivate people. They've just determined that doesn't 410 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 4: really get people to the polls. 411 00:20:46,040 --> 00:20:46,880 Speaker 2: I think that's it. 412 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 5: And it's the classic example of the topic that's the 413 00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:54,479 Speaker 5: cause celeb among the elite media and university types and 414 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:57,199 Speaker 5: the loud lefties, but nobody really cares about it. 415 00:20:57,320 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 2: I mean in terms of the bulk of the electorate. 416 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 4: No, it's but they always jam it into a debate 417 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 4: or a town hall. It's always got to include climate change, 418 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 4: even though nobody freaking cares. 419 00:21:06,920 --> 00:21:11,479 Speaker 5: Yes, So Kamala's mentioned climate just once. She mentioned it 420 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 5: just once in her acceptance speech, and it really didn't 421 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:15,560 Speaker 5: come up in. 422 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:17,719 Speaker 4: Her debate with Trump. She used her time to champion 423 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 4: domestic gas production. 424 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:23,160 Speaker 5: Make it quote very clear she won't ban fracking, although 425 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:29,680 Speaker 5: that is utterly dishonest, as the editorial board of The 426 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:34,679 Speaker 5: Wall Street Journal makes clear. She touts her support of 427 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:39,880 Speaker 5: the Inflation Reduction Act, the bizarrely hilariously named Inflation Reduction Act, 428 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:43,119 Speaker 5: as proof that she supports fracking. Of course, that was 429 00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:46,399 Speaker 5: one of the greatest squanderings of money. Well, it's probably 430 00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 5: the greatest squandering of money in the history of humanity. 431 00:21:50,359 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 5: It's almost entirely a Green New Deal Act had nothing 432 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,960 Speaker 5: to do with reducing inflation. And the only reason some 433 00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:59,920 Speaker 5: expansion of fracking was in there is because Joe Manchin 434 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 5: said he wouldn't vote for it unless it was in there. 435 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:04,359 Speaker 5: And then the Biden administration found a way to cheat 436 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 5: their way around that, so they didn't really give any 437 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 5: more fracking leases out above the bear bear bear minimum 438 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 5: of the letter of the law, so they could get 439 00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:19,239 Speaker 5: their money squandering windmill farms going so oh, and that 440 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 5: reminds me there was I wanted to scroll down to 441 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 5: some statistics poll results. Pardon me, I know your poll 442 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:31,679 Speaker 5: and you want to vomit. But the number of people 443 00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:33,919 Speaker 5: is that I'm sorry, I've got too much information in 444 00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:38,719 Speaker 5: front of me. I'm sorry, Jack, say something clever and all. 445 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 5: Compare with those statistics, which I promise will knock yourself. 446 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:45,120 Speaker 2: Oh there it is only forty seven. 447 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 5: Percent of voters said they would support spending one dollar 448 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:54,080 Speaker 5: more each month to fight climate chair. 449 00:22:56,280 --> 00:23:00,080 Speaker 2: And oh that's not good enough, isn't Greta? They've still 450 00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:03,680 Speaker 2: in our childhood. Greta, you have stolen my dreams. Thank 451 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:04,360 Speaker 2: your childhood. 452 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:08,680 Speaker 7: You have stolen my dreams. 453 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 5: I know you're a passionate teenager. I agree, talking him 454 00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:18,639 Speaker 5: in his empty words. One efing dollar a month only 455 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 5: forty seven percent. A new Yugov survey and they do 456 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 5: good work, showed that less than a quarter of the 457 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:29,560 Speaker 5: electorate supports a quote rapid transition to renewables. You know, 458 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 5: it's interesting, and even among Democrats it's only a third. 459 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:34,960 Speaker 5: They so they can only get about a half of 460 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:36,879 Speaker 5: the country to agree to give a dollar a month? 461 00:23:37,000 --> 00:23:39,960 Speaker 2: Is that what you said? That is correct by climate change? 462 00:23:40,280 --> 00:23:41,720 Speaker 2: But a little less than half. 463 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 4: But your government is willing to sacrifice thousands and thousands 464 00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 4: and thousands of your own dollars in uh, you know, 465 00:23:51,320 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 4: gas prices or products being more expensive, or forcing it 466 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 4: into electric this or that. They don't have any problem 467 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,399 Speaker 4: with spending lots of your money that you are not 468 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:02,680 Speaker 4: willing to put toward climate change. 469 00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 5: Right and to that end, And I've got a feature 470 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:08,440 Speaker 5: at all prepared, but I'm not sure we have time 471 00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 5: for it. I'm just gonna hit you with the headlines 472 00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 5: that I have all lined up to talk about the 473 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 5: utter deception, the fraud that is the green energy movement. 474 00:24:19,560 --> 00:24:22,879 Speaker 5: And I'm for green energy, I'm for a clean environment. 475 00:24:22,960 --> 00:24:25,320 Speaker 5: I'm for all this stuff. I just in the same 476 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:27,639 Speaker 5: way that I'm for having more money in the bank. 477 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:30,720 Speaker 5: But if a Nigerian prince emails me and tells me 478 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:32,159 Speaker 5: I've won the lottery and all I have to do 479 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 5: is send them the tax money, yeah, I'm not for that. 480 00:24:37,040 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 5: So I'm for the goal. I'm not for the freaking 481 00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:43,439 Speaker 5: fraud anyway. You're my collection of headlines. Kamala Harris's electric 482 00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 5: school bus program granted four hundred thousand dollars to a 483 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:50,639 Speaker 5: Chinese manufacturer. Then it's top executive sent Biden Harris scores 484 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 5: of campaign cash and that doesn't prove anything, but it's 485 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 5: pretty damned suspicious. The bombing not like being bombed, but 486 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:03,520 Speaker 5: bombing like a movie bombs. Ev is bombing worse than 487 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:08,159 Speaker 5: ever after a Manhattan project's worth of taxpayer money. And 488 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 5: they go into the statistic for who wants to actually 489 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 5: wants evs in the US, in Germany, across Europe, and 490 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,560 Speaker 5: it's pathetic. The only reason anybody ever talks about this 491 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:23,880 Speaker 5: is the billions of dollars tossed down to the bonfire 492 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,040 Speaker 5: of bad taxpayer funded subsidies. 493 00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 4: Man, if Tesla didn't exist, there'd be nothing going with 494 00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 4: electric cars. And that one electric car, which barely makes 495 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 4: a dent elon musk, is a pariah to the climate people. 496 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, and I just was going over some of Tesla's 497 00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:41,639 Speaker 5: figures because their stock just went up. There's something like 498 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 5: thirty three percent of the revenue came from a government subsidies. 499 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:49,120 Speaker 5: Of course this past quarter, I mean like a lot 500 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 5: of it. Here's another headline for you. You love this one, Oh, 501 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 5: you would have loved it, but at reset for some reason. 502 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:58,399 Speaker 2: Biden Harris administration. 503 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:05,240 Speaker 5: Pauses Oregon offshore wind program one month after championing championing, championing, 504 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 5: that's one of the hardest words to say, I think 505 00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:10,879 Speaker 5: in the English language, championing indubitably. Let me take a 506 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 5: second hack at it if you will. I'm not the 507 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:18,880 Speaker 5: champion of this. Biden Harris administration pauses Oregon offshore wind 508 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:24,040 Speaker 5: program one month after touting it is a green energy 509 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:29,400 Speaker 5: success story. So they made a big deal about how 510 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:31,920 Speaker 5: this is a great victory for green energy. A month 511 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,439 Speaker 5: later they said, yeah, this is bleeding money and it 512 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:38,200 Speaker 5: doesn't ORG shut it down. Shut it down one flippant 513 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 5: month later. I've got some big uh climate change green 514 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:44,320 Speaker 5: energy people in my orbit that. 515 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:46,119 Speaker 4: I run into and now and then, and they always 516 00:26:46,280 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 4: tout various crap like this, and I never get into it, 517 00:26:48,800 --> 00:26:52,679 Speaker 4: because what's the point. But all those wind farms and 518 00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 4: solar panels, they're hardly doing squawked, certainly in California, we 519 00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:59,320 Speaker 4: have so many of them. We have to buy energy 520 00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 4: from other states to keep our lights on. 521 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,439 Speaker 5: And I was accosted the other day in not a 522 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:08,199 Speaker 5: bad way by an engineer who was talking about the 523 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 5: environmental costs of evs and how in the automotive business, 524 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 5: for gas powered cars, you've got to do this big 525 00:27:20,840 --> 00:27:26,200 Speaker 5: environmental impact report on every model that does everything. That 526 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:30,159 Speaker 5: includes everything from the extraction of the materials to make it, 527 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 5: and the rubber for the tires, and the gas that's 528 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,680 Speaker 5: burning in the oil and absolutely everything. But for evs, 529 00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:38,120 Speaker 5: the only thing the government looks at is on the road. 530 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:41,639 Speaker 5: It's exhaust, that's it, right. No, well, wait a minute, 531 00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:44,600 Speaker 5: what about the lithium, all the rare chemicals for the batteries. 532 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:46,480 Speaker 2: Now we don't need to hear about that. That's fine. 533 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 5: It's a complete double standard for those cars from the 534 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,880 Speaker 5: federal government because they're siphoning trillions of dollars to their cronies. 535 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 2: Here's my view of a wind power. 536 00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:59,919 Speaker 9: You'd be doing wind, windmills, and if it does it, 537 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 9: if it doesn't blow, you can forget about television for 538 00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 9: that night, Darling, I want to watch television. I'm sorry, 539 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:12,480 Speaker 9: the wind isn't blowing. 540 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 2: I know a lot about wind, and. 541 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,679 Speaker 4: That was mocked a lot when he was I know 542 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 4: a lot about wind. That's hilarious, but he was mocked 543 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 4: for that, of course by the mainstream media. That feels 544 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 4: like everybody agrees with them. Way more people be like 545 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:33,080 Speaker 4: eighty twenty agree with Trump on that. 546 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:37,159 Speaker 5: Yes, yes, As it turns out, yeah, only a third 547 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 5: of Democrats want a rapid transition to quote unquote green energy. 548 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 5: My final note on this topic. Dressed in a sequin 549 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 5: laced sleeveless top and puffy pink skirt, drag queen Pattigonia 550 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 5: strides around the stage in white, high heeled boots that 551 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,479 Speaker 5: come up to the knees, telling the crowd that nature 552 00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 5: must be a woman, and goes into some sort of 553 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 5: alleged comedy routine. The headline New York climate doom sayers 554 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 5: hope to lip sync the planet to safety with an 555 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:08,320 Speaker 5: environmental drag show. 556 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 2: It's just happened in New York. That's a way to 557 00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 2: get everybody on board. 558 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,160 Speaker 5: In its second year at New York Climate Week, Save 559 00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:20,400 Speaker 5: Her Environmental Drag Show has become a popular attraction during 560 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 5: the event that includes hundreds of panels activities. 561 00:29:27,680 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 4: There's way too much in all of persuading, not even 562 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:37,400 Speaker 4: politics of preaching to the choir whoever originally came up 563 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:41,840 Speaker 4: with that saying it's hundreds of years old, Yeah, it 564 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 4: probably is, you know, I'm sure there are versions of 565 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,040 Speaker 4: it that are thousands of years old. There's way too 566 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:50,120 Speaker 4: much in the persuasion business of that. I mean, because 567 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:53,640 Speaker 4: if your crowd is people that want to come to 568 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 4: a drag show, yeah, I think the likelihood that they're 569 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 4: on board with your environmental stuff is quite a bit higher. 570 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,160 Speaker 4: How are you going to reach people like my brothers 571 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 4: who have no freaking interest whatsoever in climate change and 572 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 4: ain't with a drag show? 573 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:10,480 Speaker 5: I'll tell you that, or the fifty three percent of Americans, 574 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,040 Speaker 5: so if it costs them a dollar five a month 575 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 5: or not down with your plans. 576 00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 2: That reminds me. 577 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,480 Speaker 5: There's a great new piece written by and I'm not 578 00:30:19,480 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 5: sure how to say his first name. It's ore Uy 579 00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:27,720 Speaker 5: is it Roy or ruy Tashera and Yuvale Levin for 580 00:30:27,920 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 5: the American Enterprise Institute. 581 00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 2: It's talking about. 582 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 5: The title of its politics without winners, can either party 583 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 5: build a majority coalition? 584 00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:36,800 Speaker 2: And the point of their. 585 00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 5: Peace is that if either party could just be normal, 586 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 5: could not well let me, I'll put it to you 587 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 5: the opposite way. The only thing stopping the parties transforming 588 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 5: themselves from minority to majority parties is themselves. They have 589 00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 5: quote prioritized the wishes of their most intensely devoted voters 590 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:05,040 Speaker 5: who would never vote for the other party over the 591 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 5: priorities of winnable voters who could go either way. 592 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:12,160 Speaker 2: But that's a response to our primary. 593 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 4: System, right and the way we raise money too, where 594 00:31:15,080 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 4: you motivate the small donors. 595 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 2: On Twitter or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yep. 596 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:20,959 Speaker 4: I don't know how we can fight our way out 597 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 4: of this situation. There was an attack on free speech 598 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 4: was pretty rough the other day. A couple of them 599 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:26,800 Speaker 4: won in Great Britain and one of the United States. 600 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,880 Speaker 4: That has me somewhat concerned. Among other things we can 601 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 4: talk about stay. 602 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 2: Here, armstrong. Oh this is going viral. 603 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 3: Orchestra in Sweden has added an unusual member to their group. 604 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 4: The world's first joint performance by a symphony orchestra and 605 00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 4: a robot playing cello has taken place in Sweden. 606 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 2: Imagine how nerdy you have to be to invent a 607 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 2: robots that plays the cello. 608 00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 3: Look who has first seat now, Francis? 609 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 2: So have you anybody seen this? Does it? 610 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,840 Speaker 4: A robot that actually like has arms and is drawing 611 00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:15,959 Speaker 4: a bow across the strings of a cello? 612 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,000 Speaker 2: Is that what's happening there? Does it have arms or 613 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 2: some sort of belt. 614 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 4: Or do you know? 615 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:22,200 Speaker 2: Michael, I haven't seen it. 616 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 4: No, okay, but I was thinking, I'm constantly concerned that 617 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,959 Speaker 4: when AI can do art as well or better than humans, 618 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:34,240 Speaker 4: if it'll what that will do? But player pianosis existed 619 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 4: for over a century and they play really, really well, 620 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 4: and it didn't like end humans playing the piano. 621 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 5: Yeah, it looks like one of those auto assembly line robots, 622 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 5: but one of the big silvery arms is holding a bow. 623 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:50,640 Speaker 6: Yeah it's not like a humanoid robot. 624 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 2: No, not at all. 625 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,600 Speaker 4: It doesn't look like a human. No, it's not wearing 626 00:32:54,680 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 4: a tuxedo lack of respect. But I'm sure they could 627 00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 4: make I'm sure they could a rat. They could make 628 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 4: it look like a human if they wanted to. It's 629 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:06,520 Speaker 4: like the robot dogs. Don't have to have a you know, 630 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:08,720 Speaker 4: a schnaz like a dog, but they do that to 631 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 4: make it look more like a dog. Right, But I 632 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,239 Speaker 4: don't think they would have an effect on music, like 633 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:18,160 Speaker 4: my player piano. Analogy is right, isn't it. I mean, 634 00:33:18,160 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 4: because I've my uncle had a player piano. It was 635 00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:22,680 Speaker 4: really really cool. But it's like it didn't make it 636 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:25,240 Speaker 4: any less amazing to hear a person play the piano. 637 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:28,640 Speaker 2: No, No, I guess not. 638 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 4: I am recently very amazed at the number of smart 639 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 4: people who think we've got a free speech problem in 640 00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 4: this country and that they and their friends are capable 641 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 4: of determining which free speech should be allowed and which 642 00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:51,320 Speaker 4: free speech shouldn't. 643 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 5: Those quote unquote smart people are some of the most 644 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 5: dangerous people in America. 645 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,880 Speaker 4: Well, I've got one right here. Her name is, her 646 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:00,840 Speaker 4: last name is Frank, I don't remember what it is. 647 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 4: Doesn't make any difference. She is a law professor and 648 00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,440 Speaker 4: one of your Ivy League schools, was at a Harvard 649 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 4: get together the other day where they were all concerned 650 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:14,120 Speaker 4: about too much free speech in this country and how 651 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 4: the First Amendment is, you know, past its prime, what 652 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:22,480 Speaker 4: with social media and the internet now. Because she was 653 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:26,400 Speaker 4: at some conference for media studies, the Berkman Klein Center 654 00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 4: for Media something or other at Harvard. Here's a quote 655 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,800 Speaker 4: from this law professor, who I'm sure has got a 656 00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:36,239 Speaker 4: higher IQ than me. The US was built on racial patriarchy. 657 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:38,920 Speaker 4: If you want to describe what the First Amendment is, 658 00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,280 Speaker 4: It's not about consistent or noble principles. 659 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 2: It's about power. 660 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,759 Speaker 4: It's about converging with that idea of racial patriarchy. And 661 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 4: if you are disturbing it. 662 00:34:48,239 --> 00:34:51,040 Speaker 2: That is a dangerous and evil person right there. And 663 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:51,759 Speaker 2: Charles C. W. 664 00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 4: Cook was where I came across this, and he's a 665 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:56,760 Speaker 4: big guy, stands up for free speech with the National Review. 666 00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 4: But he said, the most alarming thing about this is 667 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 4: she really he does sincerely believe it. I've heard her 668 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,239 Speaker 4: make this case at length in person, so he's heard 669 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:05,239 Speaker 4: her lecture about it. 670 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 5: Oh yeah, these people have fully fleshed out arguments that 671 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:13,000 Speaker 5: are incredibly dangerous. 672 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,120 Speaker 4: The hang up I usually have, I feel like where 673 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:20,319 Speaker 4: I don't think they have. The answer is, you won't 674 00:35:20,360 --> 00:35:23,920 Speaker 4: always be in power, you realize, So when Trump wins 675 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,839 Speaker 4: or whoever you don't like wins, they're going to get 676 00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:32,240 Speaker 4: to choose the crew that rules on free speech. Doesn't 677 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:33,399 Speaker 4: that worry is them? 678 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:34,439 Speaker 5: Yeah. 679 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,759 Speaker 2: I would never go to that argument because. 680 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:41,719 Speaker 5: I won't give up on the first one, which is 681 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:45,360 Speaker 5: that freedom of speech is the most precious and necessary 682 00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:49,200 Speaker 5: liberty in a functioning society. And I don't care what 683 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:52,279 Speaker 5: rationale is for it or against it. You will get 684 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,000 Speaker 5: it when you pry it out of my cold dead hands. 685 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:56,640 Speaker 4: But it seems like a pretty good argument that one 686 00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:58,400 Speaker 4: of the reasons you have to have free speech is 687 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,800 Speaker 4: you can't put anybody in charge of it's free and 688 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:01,239 Speaker 4: what's not. 689 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:04,520 Speaker 2: Oh, yeah, you're absolutely correct. 690 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:06,400 Speaker 5: It's just like saying, no, honey, we can't kill the 691 00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 5: neighbor because we might go to jail. Don't give me 692 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,760 Speaker 5: the practical argument. The moral one is just fine. 693 00:36:13,840 --> 00:36:15,840 Speaker 4: You on moral grounds don't think you should kill the 694 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:16,440 Speaker 4: neighbor at all. 695 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, and there's nothing wrong with that woman that tar 696 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,440 Speaker 5: and feathers wouldn't cure. This is a metaphor, of course, 697 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:23,480 Speaker 5: not literally of course,