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Speaker 1: in with Scott Patterson and I Hurt Radio Podcast. Welcome

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Speaker 1: everybody to the first ever live virtual podcast. And I

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Speaker 1: am Scott Patterson and this is I Heart Radio and

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Speaker 1: one eleven Productions bringing you a friends giving events. And

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Speaker 1: we're all so happy and so pleased to have you

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Speaker 1: to say a portion of the proceeds a You're gonna

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Speaker 1: go benefiting the St. Jude's Children's Research Hospital and Baby

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Speaker 1: Too Baby, two causes that are in charities that are

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Speaker 1: close to my heart. I've taken a bunch of tours

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Speaker 1: through St. Jude's and other hospitals and to visit kids.

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Speaker 1: And let me tell you something, there is nothing more

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Speaker 1: rewarding and more satisfying and knowing that that you can

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Speaker 1: provide a little tiny bit of comfort for a kid

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Speaker 1: on a specific day. Um. And these are beautiful kids

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Speaker 1: for a great cause. So thank you very much forgetting

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Speaker 1: your tickets and uh and joining in. Listen. We want

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Speaker 1: to well, I'm gonna tease our guests here a little bit.

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Speaker 1: We've got Jackson Douglas, who played Jackson Belleville in series

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Speaker 1: fifty seven episodes. We've got Emily Kuroda Mrs Kim, We've

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Speaker 1: got Sally Strutters obviously played Babette, and Grantly Phillips the

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Speaker 1: Town Troubadour, and we are very, very very excited. I

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Speaker 1: want to thank my team UH, led by Amy Sugarman,

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Speaker 1: Danielle Romo, Riley pelusis UH and there are others behind

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Speaker 1: following one is gonna be quite a reveal something that

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Speaker 1: I have discovered in the show. One of those things

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Speaker 1: like the clown Fellow. But you'll have to download the

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Speaker 1: But it's a bombshell, I guarantee you that. Anyway. Thank

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Speaker 1: whole world. Mr. And I think he's living in Spain now,

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Speaker 1: So let's welcome Jackson Douglas. Jackson, come on in. How

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Speaker 1: and grew up in the same town. Yes. But as

424
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Speaker 1: he pointed out the first day I met him, he's

425
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:37,680
Speaker 1: younger than I am, So I didn't know him in

426
00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:42,200
Speaker 1: high school because he wasn't there yet. Right. Oh, yeah,

427
00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 1: we had We had him on the podcast he was driving.

428
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:50,200
Speaker 1: He did share that story. Yeah, he's a great guy.

429
00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:55,560
Speaker 1: And his dad, his dad, Ed Rooney, father of Ted Rooney,

430
00:26:56,080 --> 00:26:58,920
Speaker 1: was on the Johnny Carson Show one night because he

431
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:02,600
Speaker 1: had Ted Rooney is one of like nine children, and

432
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:04,879
Speaker 1: so you know Ed Rooney was just a high school teacher.

433
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 1: I mean, how do you feed a family and nine

434
00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:10,200
Speaker 1: kids on that? So he fed them horse meat and

435
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 1: hope that they didn't hope that they didn't know the difference.

436
00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:17,159
Speaker 1: It was cheaper than buying cow meat, and he was

437
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,520
Speaker 1: somebody got word of it, and the Tonight Show flew

438
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 1: down and he was on the Tonight Show talking about

439
00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:30,360
Speaker 1: feeding his family horse meat with Johnny Carson. With Johnny Carson, Yeah,

440
00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:35,359
Speaker 1: oh my god, are you gonna have Rose abdu on

441
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 1: on this one? Yeah? No, No, it's very funny. She's

442
00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 1: very funny. She's a very brilliant gal. I love her,

443
00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:50,439
Speaker 1: she really is and her resume proves that point. And now,

444
00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:53,640
Speaker 1: speaking of Ted Rooney, we had him on the podcast

445
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,840
Speaker 1: what do you remember about the scenes inside your tiny

446
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 1: home and and what the difference between you and Ted

447
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:04,920
Speaker 1: height getting the way of those scenes. Uh, it didn't

448
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 1: get in the way in real life, but it obviously

449
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:11,200
Speaker 1: got the way in Babbet's marriage to him. Because when

450
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 1: we were having the wake at our house for our cats,

451
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 1: Cinnamon and Laura, I was standing in the kitchen with

452
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,440
Speaker 1: me with her legs spread apart so that she would

453
00:28:19,480 --> 00:28:21,600
Speaker 1: be shorter because she was helping me with the dishes

454
00:28:21,640 --> 00:28:24,719
Speaker 1: and the counters were so low, and she she asked,

455
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 1: you know, if Marie had any trouble moving into this

456
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:29,359
Speaker 1: house with me, and I said, well, yeah, he he

457
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 1: hits his head sometime on the dividus between the rooms,

458
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 1: but he never had a really bad concussions, Are you okay? Yeah? Yeah.

459
00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:43,560
Speaker 1: She had the house built for her own height, probably

460
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:45,960
Speaker 1: never thinking she'd get married, and then she met maur

461
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 1: right right right. Let me ask you this, if there

462
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 1: was ever another reboot of Gilmore Girls and you couldn't

463
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 1: do it for some reason because you were in a

464
00:28:58,200 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 1: player or another movie and the schedule didn't work, God,

465
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 1: who would you want to play? But that, oh, oh well,

466
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:09,840
Speaker 1: if we could dig her up, Ruth Gordon, because that's

467
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:14,760
Speaker 1: who my my, my performances, you know, giving honor to

468
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 1: because she was the best character actress that ever lived.

469
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 1: Now I see that now because we just reviewed Rosemary's Baby,

470
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 1: because it was mentioned in the in in the first episode,

471
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 1: and you're right, yeah. I loved her. And then I

472
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:30,840
Speaker 1: got to play her daughter in law in the film

473
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:34,480
Speaker 1: The Great Houdini's Paul Michael Klaser played Harry Houdini and

474
00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 1: I played best his wife, and Ruth Gordon played his mother,

475
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 1: and we made friends, and we stayed friends until she

476
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:41,680
Speaker 1: passed away. As a matter of fact, when I went

477
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 1: to New York to do my first Broadway show, she

478
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:46,440
Speaker 1: and her husband, Garson Kanan, let me stay in their

479
00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 1: brownstone on the East side of New York City, and

480
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:57,840
Speaker 1: my next door neighbors were Katherine Hepburn and Stephen Sondheim.

481
00:29:57,880 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 1: And on the morning of my birthday, there was an

482
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Speaker 1: on the front door. On the door, and then you know,

483
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 1: the first level was the kitchen in the dining room,

484
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 1: and then you went up a set of stairs, and

485
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 1: then it was a living room, another set of stairs,

486
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,640
Speaker 1: bedrooms and bathrooms, and another set of stairs, bedrooms and bathrooms.

487
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 1: And my best friend Pamela was upstairs with my daughter,

488
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 1: who was turning too and we were trying to toilet

489
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 1: trainer on little party chair, and so I screamed, Pamela,

490
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,680
Speaker 1: I'm in my pajama. Someone's knocking on the door. Can

491
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 1: you come down and answer? And she said, I've got

492
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 1: Samantha on the party chair. I can't come down. So

493
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 1: I said, all right, I answered the door and there's

494
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 1: cats and Hepperd standing at my front door. I mean,

495
00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 1: I think my mouth literally hit the floor. And I

496
00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:37,560
Speaker 1: looked at her. I said, oh, miss Happer, hello, I'm sorry,

497
00:30:37,560 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 1: I'm in my pajama. And she says, well, hello. Sadly,

498
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:45,160
Speaker 1: she says, Norah told me it was your birthday. Happy birthday. Dear,

499
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,720
Speaker 1: I painted you a birthday, can't so you let take

500
00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:50,800
Speaker 1: it from me? And sundaytime this week, why don't you

501
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,200
Speaker 1: come next door to my place. I'll show you all around.

502
00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 1: I'll talk to you about Spencer Tracy, and I've got

503
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 1: my closets full of all my costumes all about wonderful time.

504
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 1: Can you make coffee at tea? This isn't happening on

505
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:08,720
Speaker 1: my birthday? Oh my god, Oh my god. But I

506
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:13,080
Speaker 1: was staying in recording this Brownstone. My ears are so tiny,

507
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 1: their childlike my ears, that these little pods won't stay

508
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 1: in because my ear can't accept them. That's okay, I'm

509
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not doing much talking because you're being

510
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 1: so great and funny. So if you here's here's a question.

511
00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:29,960
Speaker 1: If you could jump back in time, um to filming

512
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 1: any episode or season, what would it be? Oh, Gilmore Gross,

513
00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:41,920
Speaker 1: any episode or season of the Gilmore Girls, Gilmore Girls,

514
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 1: Um Ohm, When did I have the most fun? Probably

515
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 1: when we did was it called a year in the life?

516
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:54,400
Speaker 1: What was it? But we came back we all haven't

517
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 1: seen each other in several years, and then we did

518
00:31:56,360 --> 00:32:00,200
Speaker 1: those four ninety minute movies and I felt so lucky. Yeah,

519
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 1: I felt like I hadn't been invited to my high

520
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 1: school reunion. And the reunion went on for you know,

521
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 1: a month. I was like a kid at Christmas, dancing

522
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,480
Speaker 1: around the Warner Brothers lot, and Rose Abdew said to

523
00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 1: me one day, Oh, here comes one of their where

524
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,720
Speaker 1: their trolleys? What do you call those caravan things where

525
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 1: they drive people around to take a tour of the studio.

526
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:26,960
Speaker 1: That the tram right, And she says, let's just stand

527
00:32:27,000 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 1: here and give him a thrill. But we were on

528
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:31,920
Speaker 1: our way to the steppy uppy truck where you could

529
00:32:31,920 --> 00:32:35,479
Speaker 1: get snacks, and we were admonishing one another about how

530
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:38,440
Speaker 1: we didn't need snacks but we were getting them anyway.

531
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 1: And then we stopped and kind of post so to

532
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:44,440
Speaker 1: give the group on the Trauma thrill. They didn't recognize

533
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 1: either one of us. We both felt so awful. We

534
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 1: got more snacks than we even originally wanted. I gotta

535
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 1: tell you, every single time I came to work on that,

536
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 1: because you you worked in every episode, you were there

537
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,520
Speaker 1: all the time, but I was in one in every

538
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 1: three episodes, maybe sometimes one in every other one. So

539
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 1: to me was this realization that I was still in

540
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 1: show business, you know, because sometimes when you're a woman,

541
00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 1: when you're a woman in this industry, you're pretty much

542
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 1: told when you hit about forty that you're washed up.

543
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 1: So here I was on this very popular TV series

544
00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 1: and being written with dialogue that was just as brilliant

545
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 1: as the dialogue on All in the Family, and I

546
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 1: really felt every day that I was there that I

547
00:33:34,560 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 1: had won the lottery. So I loved all of it.

548
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 1: I loved the scenes in in uh Laura Lae and

549
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:44,520
Speaker 1: Rory's house. I was always excited when there's something in

550
00:33:44,560 --> 00:33:47,239
Speaker 1: there to do. I never ever did a scene in

551
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 1: her parents home. I was not never And I know

552
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 1: you went to the senior Gilmore's house sometimes. I was

553
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 1: never in any of those scenes. Yeah, those were great scenes.

554
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 1: That's where that's a great place to shoot. So here's

555
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:05,200
Speaker 1: a fan question for you, Sally. Here's somebody typing in

556
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 1: from the audience. Sally, what was your favorite part of

557
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 1: playing that that? This is from Ashley. By the way, Ashley,

558
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:17,879
Speaker 1: thank you for asking that. I think the favorite part.

559
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 1: The two favorite parts for me is that one they

560
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,760
Speaker 1: let me do my very bad impression of Ruth Gordon

561
00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 1: and never called me on the carpet about it. And

562
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 1: number two, they always let me wear my own clothes

563
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 1: because I don't look good when you dressed me in

564
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:34,680
Speaker 1: other people's clothes. So once they understood that I would

565
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:38,320
Speaker 1: bring choices, I was always so comfortable on the set

566
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 1: in my own clothes. Right. I know that's not the

567
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 1: answer that you were looking for, Ashley, but but I

568
00:34:46,239 --> 00:34:48,799
Speaker 1: was really excited to do my get out my roof

569
00:34:48,920 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 1: Gorden kind of thing. Oh my god, that made me happy.

570
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,400
Speaker 1: It's just it's just it's just all hitting me now

571
00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:00,239
Speaker 1: because because I mean, yeah, that's what you were doing.

572
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,759
Speaker 1: It's fantastic. But it wasn't. It was an homage, it was,

573
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,439
Speaker 1: but it was it was mostly you, but a little

574
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 1: bit that's yeah, that's that's good stuff. All Right, here

575
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:13,000
Speaker 1: we go, we're gonna, we're gonna. We're gonna wrap it

576
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:18,759
Speaker 1: upright by asking you a final question, what are you

577
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:27,239
Speaker 1: most thankful for? From Gilmore Girls? It sounds so selfish

578
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 1: all about me, but honestly, I was really grateful. But

579
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,839
Speaker 1: I was on a show that was so good and

580
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:43,320
Speaker 1: so well liked that I stopped being approached as oh,

581
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:47,080
Speaker 1: there's that girl from Archie Bunker. You know, people didn't

582
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 1: even remember it was called All in the Family. They

583
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:52,320
Speaker 1: call it the Archie Bunker shows all about Archie. And

584
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,360
Speaker 1: they'd come up and they'd say, you know, oh, we

585
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:57,520
Speaker 1: haven't seen you in so long? Have you retired? Dear?

586
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 1: All of that kind of condescending stuff where you want

587
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,359
Speaker 1: to step on their feet and walk away. But but

588
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 1: then I started getting stopped by people who watched Gilmore Girls,

589
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 1: and they it made me feel like I had come

590
00:36:09,960 --> 00:36:13,720
Speaker 1: alive again in my career because I had been hearing

591
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 1: thirty years worth of All in the Family remarks, and

592
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,439
Speaker 1: now I was getting a whole new generation that would

593
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 1: talk to me. So and that has lasted, it still

594
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 1: seems current. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they keep playing it. It's

595
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:33,759
Speaker 1: uh yeah. Every new generation is discovering the show and

596
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 1: love and falling in love with the show, and yeah,

597
00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:38,120
Speaker 1: it's it's crazy. I'm so glad you had me on

598
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:40,120
Speaker 1: your podcast. Should I hang around? Are you gonna have

599
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 1: us all back in a while? Yes, we're gonna, yeah,

600
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,320
Speaker 1: we're gonna wrap up the segment. You're gonna come back

601
00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 1: for the fan Q and A. Alright, you around because

602
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,799
Speaker 1: I love you. I love you too, very much and

603
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 1: I love see you in a little bit. All right,

604
00:36:56,840 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 1: good deal, Sally, thank you. Okay, so we're gonna, we're

605
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna go to some uh some fan Q

606
00:37:05,200 --> 00:37:11,360
Speaker 1: and A here and here's Chris and Tiffany asking, uh me, okay,

607
00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:16,520
Speaker 1: did you serve real food in Luke's diner? Oh? You

608
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 1: bet you? I did. Um. That was real cooked burgers,

609
00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 1: that was real chicken, that was real waffles, real eggs,

610
00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:31,320
Speaker 1: real everything. Everything was real. I'm not saying it was fresh, Okay,

611
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that. And sometimes extras did kind of

612
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 1: you know, break the rules and break down and and

613
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:44,040
Speaker 1: start eating what they we would call the prop food. Um.

614
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,400
Speaker 1: And I was tempted a few times myself late at

615
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 1: night and hungry and Crafty was running out of food

616
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,799
Speaker 1: and the pizza was gone, and you know, you look

617
00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 1: at one of those, you know, those old burgers, it's

618
00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:01,239
Speaker 1: like who cares? Just dig it? But now it was.

619
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 1: To answer your question, it was all real. Everything was real, Yes, yes, yes, yes, indeed. Um. Okay.

620
00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 1: Next question is from Lyndy or Lynde. LYNDI, Uh, did

621
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:22,799
Speaker 1: the fake snow in Stars Hollow have a smell to it? Yes?

622
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 1: Absolutely it did because it was made out of paper. Um,

623
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:30,480
Speaker 1: and it smelled like paper. Uh. So it's it's just

624
00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:34,480
Speaker 1: paper that's chopped up into it's you know, fine not granules,

625
00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:39,280
Speaker 1: but pretty pretty fine, tiny little pieces of paper, hundreds

626
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 1: of millions of tiny little pieces of paper being shot

627
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 1: through a very expensive looking and very large, cumbersome machine. Uh.

628
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 1: And sometimes they'll just sort of rain it down from

629
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:55,520
Speaker 1: a um, sort of a sieve like contraption way above you.

630
00:38:55,719 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 1: And you know, it's quite clever. Um, but it us

631
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 1: get in your ears and your nose and your mouth

632
00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 1: and your arts and all kinds of places. So um um, yeah,

633
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:14,200
Speaker 1: it smells like paper, that's what it smells like. Yeah,

634
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:21,760
Speaker 1: there he is. Hello there man, how you doing, buddy,

635
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 1: I'm good. Are we live right now? We are live,

636
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:29,720
Speaker 1: beaming out streaming out to the world. Wow, hey, say hello,

637
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:36,120
Speaker 1: hi everybody, all your beautiful pable So look, let's uh,

638
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 1: let's do a couple of questions then well then you

639
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:45,360
Speaker 1: can play us your song. Okay, really looking forward to um.

640
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 1: So anyway, thanks for coming on. Great to have you,

641
00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:51,239
Speaker 1: great to see it. My pleasure, my pleasure. And by

642
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:52,720
Speaker 1: the way, I'm coming to your neck of the Woods

643
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:56,400
Speaker 1: in February. Are you really? I am the Nashville area.

644
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 1: I am gonna I'm coming down there. I'm gonna work

645
00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:01,280
Speaker 1: with some top songwriters for a whole week and uh

646
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 1: do some podcasts with them and write some songs with them,

647
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:08,480
Speaker 1: and I'll let you know. Yeah, it's gonna be fun. Man. Well, um,

648
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 1: well we've got to we've got to get together. Yes

649
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:14,280
Speaker 1: we will. We'll hit the honky tonks, yes we will.

650
00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:17,360
Speaker 1: We will. So look, we absolutely loved having you on

651
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 1: the podcast last time. Um, what was it like strolling

652
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:27,440
Speaker 1: down Troubadour memory Lane for you? What was it like

653
00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 1: trolling down Troubadoor Avenue you're referring to, uh when you're

654
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 1: on the podcast recounting your days on right right right? Well,

655
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 1: it was great. It went by in a flash. We

656
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 1: got we got talking and we we covered a lot

657
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:47,759
Speaker 1: of ground and goodness, Um, I don't know. It's a

658
00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 1: funny thing, isn't it when you when I sometimes forget

659
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:55,600
Speaker 1: how many seasons, how many years passed that we were

660
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 1: all involved with the show, you know, because it all

661
00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 1: seems to exist in some ways for me, but like

662
00:41:02,400 --> 00:41:05,919
Speaker 1: in one moment, in some ways, you know, I don't

663
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 1: know you. And even when we went back to um

664
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 1: you know, to stars Hollow for the reunion, it was

665
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:16,399
Speaker 1: like that everybody just found their place immediately. You know,

666
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:18,240
Speaker 1: you didn't have to find the tape on the ground.

667
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 1: You knew where to go and everybody, everybody had a connection.

668
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 1: You know. It was nice. It was nice for you

669
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:27,880
Speaker 1: visiting that. It really was. We just had Sally on.

670
00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:32,279
Speaker 1: She was so grateful for that opportunity to come back

671
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 1: and do it again, and I felt I felt the

672
00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 1: same way at the time. It's like you won the lottery.

673
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:44,879
Speaker 1: It's like, really, it's just happening. I mean, right right right, yeah, Um,

674
00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 1: so you look very cozy and you're in your home.

675
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 1: I felt very cozy. I've got the you know, the

676
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:55,960
Speaker 1: the autumnal mantle. You can see behind me, a copious

677
00:41:55,960 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 1: amount of flint corn behind me. And yeah, so, how

678
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:05,279
Speaker 1: would you describe the Troubadorus music and what genre would

679
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 1: it be? M Uh, it's uh, it's traveling music. It's

680
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 1: it's music made for walking, for strolling. You know. I

681
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,399
Speaker 1: guess maybe it's because I tend to write songs when

682
00:42:18,400 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 1: I'm when I'm on the move, you know, when I'm traveling. Uh,

683
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 1: when I'm out there on my own. Um, that was

684
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 1: a hard thing to adjust to with this your pandemic.

685
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,799
Speaker 1: Suddenly I found myself kind of you know, sitting at

686
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,719
Speaker 1: home and there's plenty of time to write songs. But

687
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 1: something about that, you know, that uh, that kind of

688
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 1: input that you get, you know, that that stimulation of

689
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:47,840
Speaker 1: travel and seeing new places. You know. Um, I always

690
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:49,880
Speaker 1: get a lot of ideas in that way. So I

691
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:56,280
Speaker 1: guess it's traveling music wherever you're going metaphorically, you know, literally.

692
00:42:57,640 --> 00:43:00,719
Speaker 1: So as as we get further into the series, you know,

693
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 1: we see the Troubadore more and more. Um, yeah, did

694
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 1: you get to keep that neck microphone set up? And

695
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:11,680
Speaker 1: oh I I built that. That was all my own

696
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:16,800
Speaker 1: that yeah, you know, and um yeah, I mean Amy,

697
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:20,440
Speaker 1: they they said, yeah, show up, you know, when I

698
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 1: kind of showed up with with my my suit and

699
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:27,919
Speaker 1: my homemade um busking rig you know, a little pig

700
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 1: nose amp with a harmonica holder with a spray painted

701
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:34,960
Speaker 1: golden microphone, and I kind of rigged the whole thing.

702
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:37,720
Speaker 1: And I don't know if you remember, at the very beginning,

703
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:41,640
Speaker 1: that microphone went through like a little echo box and

704
00:43:41,680 --> 00:43:43,600
Speaker 1: I had that, but I soon realized this thing is

705
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 1: very heavy, and I'm just gonna I'm gonna spend the

706
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:48,840
Speaker 1: afternoon walking around. So I kind of paired it down finally,

707
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,640
Speaker 1: but it was always heavy and and I had and

708
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 1: I had to wear it. I didn't want to do

709
00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:58,239
Speaker 1: a scene without it, you know, right, Yeah, How did

710
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:01,960
Speaker 1: the Trouvadore evolve of the seasons? In your opinion? How what?

711
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:05,399
Speaker 1: How did he? Uh, that's a good question. I think

712
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 1: it seems to me that with this might have taken

713
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 1: place early on, but it seemed to reach a fever pitch.

714
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 1: I noted that my character was always angry about something,

715
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:24,600
Speaker 1: you know. I mean maybe maybe there's a little bit

716
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 1: of you know, a little bit of that, you know,

717
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 1: you sense it in Taylor. There there are other characters

718
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 1: that they have, uh, you know, that have these issues.

719
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:40,200
Speaker 1: And mine, of course was the first reveal itself, you know,

720
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:44,000
Speaker 1: when I had to like fight for my troubadour turf um,

721
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:47,239
Speaker 1: which you know that happened. But even later on when

722
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 1: I come back after being on the road with with

723
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:53,799
Speaker 1: Neil Young and uh and again, um, you know, kind

724
00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 1: of flying off the handle there too, you know. So

725
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:02,760
Speaker 1: here's the storyline for maybe the next reboot. We discover

726
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 1: we find out that you're really Tailor's younger brother you've

727
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:13,399
Speaker 1: never met, and that the store, the candy store that

728
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 1: he inherited right from his family, was supposed to go

729
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:23,759
Speaker 1: to you. So a lengthy court battle, you kick him

730
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 1: out of that store and you take over and he

731
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 1: becomes the town trooper or what do you think of that?

732
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 1: Do I have any chance that I think that's a

733
00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:35,759
Speaker 1: that's a great idea. I'd love to see you as

734
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,920
Speaker 1: the new Tailor Wow, And I'd like I'd like to

735
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:43,359
Speaker 1: see Taylor in with my with my amplifier around well,

736
00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:46,360
Speaker 1: and he will feel the pain that I haven't heard

737
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:49,480
Speaker 1: for so long. I was, I I've made a suggestion

738
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:51,839
Speaker 1: that Taylor like, like I have a place to make

739
00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 1: a suggestion. What if I think Taylor should be uh

740
00:45:54,719 --> 00:45:57,239
Speaker 1: like in the Royal Order of Water Buffaloes like Fred

741
00:45:57,280 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 1: flint Stone. You know, doesn't he seem like he should

742
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:02,800
Speaker 1: kind of like have a secret handshake and I stash

743
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 1: of some kind, you know. So I'm working on a

744
00:46:05,719 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 1: song for Emily Emily Corona with her low internet and

745
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:15,560
Speaker 1: can't hear or can't hear me? Inspired a song. Hey, Emily,

746
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:28,360
Speaker 1: can he you what he sent to me? I want

747
00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:38,640
Speaker 1: to talk to you right now, Hey, Emily, can't it?

748
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:51,279
Speaker 1: Don't be cute? Don't you mute em They're gonna me.

749
00:46:56,680 --> 00:47:00,399
Speaker 1: I don't know. You're tuned to the classic Massile key

750
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 1: of ease something or another. I think I'm probably not. Look,

751
00:47:07,320 --> 00:47:09,520
Speaker 1: we have our own tuning, you know. I'm in Nashville.

752
00:47:09,640 --> 00:47:13,360
Speaker 1: Nashville tuning right, all right? Um like people that have

753
00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:18,480
Speaker 1: actual talent and good ears. Right, I got um, let's

754
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:20,399
Speaker 1: get to your song. Man, tell us about your song?

755
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 1: Tell us, Oh, I'd love to. I thought it might

756
00:47:24,239 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 1: be nice. You know, the leaves are changing here, the

757
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 1: chill in the air. There's a winter front. Winter front

758
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 1: make it its way from one coast to the next.

759
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:38,880
Speaker 1: And along with that, I've got a look at this.

760
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 1: This is coming out on record sort day. This is

761
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:45,359
Speaker 1: remember these phono graphs. I do play these on your

762
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:49,040
Speaker 1: photograph player. Um, and this is coming out finally. It's

763
00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 1: on vinyl, not just vinyl, though, it's on that green

764
00:47:55,000 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 1: translucent vinyl. Yeah, and uh, it's kind of a nice thing.

765
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:05,399
Speaker 1: You know. It came out last year digitally, but it's

766
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:12,000
Speaker 1: finally available on vinyl. A painting by myself, but tuly painting.

767
00:48:12,239 --> 00:48:14,759
Speaker 1: You'll see when you come to Nashville that it's just

768
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:18,000
Speaker 1: every every inch of it cries out to be painted.

769
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 1: It's a beautiful. So so i'll I'll play your song

770
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 1: off off that album that I actually premiered on The

771
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 1: Gilmore Girls when we did our our winter reunion. Um,

772
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:36,359
Speaker 1: like so many it's like so many times, I got

773
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 1: a call from Helen she and Amy talking, do you

774
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 1: have a song that is uh kind of the scene

775
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:47,359
Speaker 1: takes place in the winter, the whole episode actually, so

776
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:49,080
Speaker 1: what do you think anything? And I said, you know

777
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:52,080
Speaker 1: what I do? I wrote, I wrote a song. Um

778
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:55,479
Speaker 1: some years ago my dad said, you know, you should

779
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 1: write a song, a seasonal song, a seasonal ballad, you know,

780
00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:02,160
Speaker 1: all to day number. And I said, you know, that's

781
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 1: a good idea, And so I did, and lo and behold,

782
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:09,480
Speaker 1: it made its debut on The Gilmore Girls, just like

783
00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:12,359
Speaker 1: that serendipity. You know what's the name of the song.

784
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:15,120
Speaker 1: It's called Winter Glow. I'll play it for you here,

785
00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:24,000
Speaker 1: all right, ladies and gentlemen, I give you Grantly Phillips. Okay,

786
00:49:24,200 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 1: I just gotta make sure I'm situated just right, Scott,

787
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 1: a little bar stool here and the rungs if I

788
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:33,360
Speaker 1: can I can? There we go perfect? Okay, there we

789
00:49:33,400 --> 00:49:37,759
Speaker 1: go perfect. Okay mm hmm. You take a swig of water.

790
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 1: I've been eating peanuts tonight. No, and you know how

791
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:44,279
Speaker 1: that happens, Like hours later you realize I still got

792
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 1: a peanut in there. They're saving up her later m hm. Okay,

793
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:03,760
Speaker 1: such a tender feeling. The candle light. I'll flickering wool

794
00:50:03,880 --> 00:50:33,200
Speaker 1: shoot in the fireplaces close, thank you you full, thanks

795
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:35,840
Speaker 1: so much. And that and that was on the show

796
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 1: that that ended up on Gilmore, that's right, yeah, yeah.

797
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 1: The snows coming down or crispies or whatever it was.

798
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:46,799
Speaker 1: And I'm in front of the gazebo and I'm just emoting,

799
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:50,280
Speaker 1: trying to try and keep my scinuces from going crazy

800
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 1: from those you know whatever those things are? What are there?

801
00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:56,799
Speaker 1: Potato buds they dropped from the sky when they wanted

802
00:50:56,880 --> 00:50:59,279
Speaker 1: to snow. You know what, now that you mention it,

803
00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:01,919
Speaker 1: it's pay paper and it's that too. Yeah. I think

804
00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:04,919
Speaker 1: sometimes they do use those potato butts, but I really

805
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:11,279
Speaker 1: think it's mostly paper, right, yeah, wild great song, what

806
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:15,400
Speaker 1: beautiful song. Thanks so much. What a performer in that

807
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:19,000
Speaker 1: voice and the melody, Oh my goodness, I've got I've

808
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:23,880
Speaker 1: got special fuel in me today. I'm full of Scotty peas.

809
00:51:27,120 --> 00:51:32,160
Speaker 1: I'm doubly caffeinated tonight. Songwriter's choice go to coffee for

810
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:37,560
Speaker 1: that's right. Yes, thank you for the plug. That was wonderful.

811
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:44,040
Speaker 1: That was absolutely wonderful. Um. Now were there times when

812
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:47,040
Speaker 1: you were touring and you couldn't and you were offered

813
00:51:47,040 --> 00:51:49,480
Speaker 1: an episode? Amy and Dan reached out and you know,

814
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 1: can you do this episode? That episode? Sorry, now I'm Torreon,

815
00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 1: can't do it? Did that happen to you? We? I

816
00:51:56,080 --> 00:51:58,839
Speaker 1: don't think there there was ever a time where we

817
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:02,359
Speaker 1: um we have that happened, funny enough, But a lot

818
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:05,879
Speaker 1: of that was because Um, I would get I would

819
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:09,920
Speaker 1: get heads up, usually pretty early on, you know, before

820
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:12,839
Speaker 1: the season was kicking in, and uh, I would try

821
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:16,479
Speaker 1: to set aside that time, you know, and just hold

822
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:20,040
Speaker 1: off on touring during that particular week or two. You know,

823
00:52:20,200 --> 00:52:22,719
Speaker 1: we kind of work around each other. But we were

824
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 1: lucky that way. I think there maybe there might have

825
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:27,920
Speaker 1: been a time where I had to recut some some

826
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:31,360
Speaker 1: dialogue or some music. Um in New York City to

827
00:52:31,440 --> 00:52:34,319
Speaker 1: replace whatever I had done on the show, because you

828
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 1: know that is I mean, you're out there playing and

829
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:43,200
Speaker 1: then an airplane flies over and so you gotta you

830
00:52:43,239 --> 00:52:45,840
Speaker 1: gotta make it happen. So you know, that's all I

831
00:52:45,880 --> 00:52:49,880
Speaker 1: can really recall, though he got pretty lucky that way. Yeah, alright,

832
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 1: so we're gonna we're gonna wrap this little session here, buddy.

833
00:52:54,040 --> 00:52:57,680
Speaker 1: Thank you so much, stick Please, thank for the for

834
00:52:57,719 --> 00:53:00,920
Speaker 1: the Q and A. They're gonna for sure the fans

835
00:53:01,000 --> 00:53:03,799
Speaker 1: have many questions they want to ask you. Thank you

836
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 1: so much, buddy. Okay, that's gonna do it. That's a

837
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:10,760
Speaker 1: rap on our first annual live virtual event, Friends Giving.

838
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 1: We're going to do another one real soon. We'll let

839
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:15,400
Speaker 1: you know when that is. You are the best fans

840
00:53:15,400 --> 00:53:17,759
Speaker 1: on the planet. Thanks for downloading. Everybody. We helped raise

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