WEBVTT - 021024 What Black Unemployment Rates Tell Us About America (Part 2)

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<v Speaker 1>Keep on riding with us as we continue to broadcast

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<v Speaker 1>the balance and defend the discourse from these hip hop

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<v Speaker 1>weekly studios. Welcome back to Civic Sideher I'm your host, Rams's.

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<v Speaker 2>Jaw he is Ramsy's jaw. I am q Ward. You

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<v Speaker 2>are tuned in and hopefully tuning back in specific signing.

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<v Speaker 3>M and we still got some more to talk about.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna spend a big part of this next half

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<v Speaker 1>of the show and discussing black employment, or specifically black unemployment,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're going to do our best to connect that

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<v Speaker 1>to a lot of different facets of not only black

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<v Speaker 1>life in America, but society in general. And we have

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<v Speaker 1>obviously the data to support all this, and so there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot here.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, there's been a lot of.

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<v Speaker 1>Conversations about like reparations, a lot of conversations about restorative justice.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we need to look at the problems too,

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<v Speaker 1>so that people understand why we're putting forth these solutions.

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<v Speaker 1>And again there's that and so much more to stick

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<v Speaker 2>so this is not an issue of legality, but rather

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<v Speaker 2>of morality. The company stated has about a five billion

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<v Speaker 2>dollar evaluation, so clearly the three year old black owned

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<v Speaker 2>brand does not have the budget to outdid them for

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<v Speaker 2>their own name in Google ads. Wow. The question is

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<v Speaker 2>why is your corporate greed not being satisfied? Was your

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<v Speaker 2>marketing team not able to come up with an authentic

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<v Speaker 2>way to reach a black audience for Black History Month

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<v Speaker 2>other than using a black owned brand's name in a

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<v Speaker 2>paid search ad. You knew people would would be googling

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<v Speaker 2>actively black, or you knew they had the budget to

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<v Speaker 2>pay to search the term actively black to show up

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<v Speaker 2>when they were looking for us and us being actively black.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a caption from their Instagram page.

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<v Speaker 1>So in short, this company called fabletics, we need to

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<v Speaker 1>boycott Babletics and we need to support actively.

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<v Speaker 2>orders for the week. Let's help a brother out, all.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Okay, all right, onto black unemployment.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, let's get it started here, got to set it off,

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<v Speaker 3>Let's get it. Let's go. It's time.

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<v Speaker 2>When you guys can see, I'm just getting more motivated

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<v Speaker 2>man each time he says this out loud. All right,

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm gonna share a bit from ABC News.

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<v Speaker 1>The black unemployment relate rate is consistently twice that of

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<v Speaker 1>white workers. And here's why. The unemployment rate among black

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<v Speaker 1>men jumped to five point three percent in January, rising

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<v Speaker 1>from four point six percent over the previous month, according

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<v Speaker 1>to data by the US Department of Labor on Friday. So,

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<v Speaker 1>in short, what's been happening lately is the economy is

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<v Speaker 1>doing okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, you could blame the president for that, which would

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<v Speaker 2>be an interesting thing to do, right, because the heroes

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<v Speaker 2>of the other side of the aisle would not even

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<v Speaker 2>see that. Not that, not only that, but we've looked

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<v Speaker 2>at the same data for very very popular presidents like

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<v Speaker 2>Ronald Reagan or maybe the most popular, the guy who

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<v Speaker 2>was in office last time. I don't I don't like

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<v Speaker 2>to say this name much in our inventory, but rates

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<v Speaker 2>from three to four times as high the black employment.

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<v Speaker 2>The black unemployment rates, I'm sorry, are three to four

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<v Speaker 2>times higher under those very very popular presidents in this

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<v Speaker 2>most recent one, a lot of black people stepping up

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<v Speaker 2>in support of him and telling us all the reasons

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<v Speaker 2>why he did so much about and the data just doesn't.

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<v Speaker 3>Not even close.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, this in no way is an endorsement of any

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<v Speaker 1>political candidate, because far be it from us to do

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<v Speaker 1>that for you. But the fact is that economy is

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<v Speaker 1>doing better. Okay, So what does that mean for black

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<v Speaker 1>people specifically? Well, this article was again meant to illuminate

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<v Speaker 1>how the black unemployment rate is consistently twice that.

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<v Speaker 2>Of white workers.

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<v Speaker 3>So I have a little.

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<v Speaker 1>I figure what it's called but it's like a breakout

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever. It is a standout, a blurb blurb. There

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<v Speaker 1>you go from the article, and I'll share that since

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<v Speaker 1>the US first collected such data in nineteen seventy two,

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<v Speaker 1>the black unemployment rate has consistently stood at levels twice

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<v Speaker 1>as high as the unemployment rate among white people. This

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<v Speaker 1>relationship is undergone occasional shifts up or down, but quickly

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<v Speaker 1>returned to a level of two to one. Okay, so

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<v Speaker 1>it's from the same article again, that's at ABC News. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>if you want to read the whole thing, the black unemployment.

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<v Speaker 2>Rate portant to point out where this data came from.

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<v Speaker 2>Can you say that again? Yeah, ABC News MSN is

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<v Speaker 2>where we originally got it.

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<v Speaker 4>Even beyond that, yeah, well well yeah, the next of labor, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>the next, the next party.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll get there.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, these are all these are all sources.

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<v Speaker 1>As you know a long time listener to the show,

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<v Speaker 1>we do our best to use journalistic uh journalistically.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, from the most journalistically credible sources, sources that

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<v Speaker 2>we can, yeah, or.

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<v Speaker 3>At least a source with some journalistic integrity.

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<v Speaker 1>Because the truth of the matter is, we've said this before,

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<v Speaker 1>the truth has a liberal bias to it. So if

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<v Speaker 1>people want to make a conservative conservative argument against a

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<v Speaker 1>news source by calling it liberal or liberal media, the

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<v Speaker 1>fact of.

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<v Speaker 2>The matter is that the truth often enough as a

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<v Speaker 2>very liberal bias to it.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, those those of us that subscribe to the

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<v Speaker 1>same moral moral compass will note that the truth often

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<v Speaker 1>lands on on on the side of a more liberal.

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<v Speaker 3>Argumentative framework. That's probably the best way to say.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, So now that we've established this that, since

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<v Speaker 1>the data has been collected, that there's a black unemployment

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<v Speaker 1>rate that is roughly two to one consistently, let's discuss

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<v Speaker 1>a few things. Okay, first thing is how does this look? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>what's one way that this look? And I know that

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<v Speaker 1>you wanted you're champing at the bit here, so go ahead,

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<v Speaker 1>champ no more.

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<v Speaker 3>My good man.

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<v Speaker 2>That's unfair to make it like I'm just champing at

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<v Speaker 2>the bit for this. I'm often very eager to kind

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<v Speaker 2>of share my point of view on the topics that

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<v Speaker 2>we talk about, and I thank you for making me

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<v Speaker 2>smile though, because I'm not typically when we're covering these

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<v Speaker 2>stories and these topics, I'm not normally in studio with

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<v Speaker 2>a smile on my face. It is very interesting. You

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<v Speaker 2>mentioned me traveling all over the world and even living

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<v Speaker 2>abroad and looking at the differences in the way that

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<v Speaker 2>societies as a whole treat people that looked like you.

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<v Speaker 2>And I lived in Barcelona, Spain before, I lived in Palawan,

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<v Speaker 2>Philippines before, and just recently returned from Tokyo, Japan. Was

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<v Speaker 2>a couple of weeks ago, and quick story. I go

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<v Speaker 2>into this restaurant to use the restroom. Upon coming out

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<v Speaker 2>of the bathroom, I'm getting ready to leave and one

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<v Speaker 2>of the gentlemen working there guides me toward a table.

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<v Speaker 2>I say, no, man, I'm just I was just using

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<v Speaker 2>the bathroom. Without saying any words. His gesture said, no,

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<v Speaker 2>fam buy some you gotta buy something. He didn't say

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<v Speaker 2>any words, but hissition his disposition in the gestures that

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<v Speaker 2>followed said oh, no, you use the restroom, so use

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<v Speaker 2>a patron. Now you're gonna buy something. So we sat

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<v Speaker 2>down and I ordered a cup of tea. It was

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<v Speaker 2>the least expensive thing here since I didn't intend to

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<v Speaker 2>buy anything. And after I finished my cup of tea

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<v Speaker 2>and then I got up to leave and pay, I

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<v Speaker 2>realized this place only accept yen, so I had no

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<v Speaker 2>Japanese in and it didn't take a credit card. All

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<v Speaker 2>I had was American cash. And this gentleman took out

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<v Speaker 2>a map and used his finger to draw me a

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<v Speaker 2>path to a currency exchange and or an ATM. And

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<v Speaker 2>then he put the map down and went back to work.

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<v Speaker 2>And something really, really powerful happened.

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<v Speaker 3>In that moment.

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<v Speaker 2>I realized that to this guy, I was a patron

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<v Speaker 2>in the establishment, and that's it. I wasn't the black

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<v Speaker 2>American guy that might be a thug and might steal

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<v Speaker 2>and might be trying to get out of paying this check. Nope,

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<v Speaker 2>he's just a patron, and patrons that come into this

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<v Speaker 2>restaurant they pay, So let me help him figure out

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<v Speaker 2>where to get his money changed over so that he

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<v Speaker 2>can pay. Nothing in him stopped to watch me, nothing

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<v Speaker 2>insisted that I come back. After me walking down the

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<v Speaker 2>street and trying to find this place for twenty minutes

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<v Speaker 2>or a half hour. When I got back, he sa

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<v Speaker 2>if he wasn't looking for me, there was security, wasn't waiting.

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<v Speaker 2>He just went back to work. Nothing in him had

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<v Speaker 2>any idea that I might not come back and pay

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<v Speaker 2>this bill, because to him, I was a person first

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<v Speaker 2>and foremost and really completely because I was very obviously

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<v Speaker 2>not Japanese. By the way I was addressed the fact

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<v Speaker 2>that I was speaking very very noticeable American English, it

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<v Speaker 2>was clear what I represented, and in this country I

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<v Speaker 2>would represent more specifically a young black man from Detroit,

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<v Speaker 2>but first and foremost black before man. In this restaurant

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<v Speaker 2>in Tokyo, I was just the next check that was due,

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<v Speaker 2>and since I didn't have the cash, this man wanted

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<v Speaker 2>to help me find the money to pay my bill.

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<v Speaker 2>And my entire experience there when I lived in the Philippines,

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<v Speaker 2>not as beautiful in Spain, but still different than here noticeably.

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<v Speaker 2>This idea that we are by nature supposed to be

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<v Speaker 2>okay with having the lesser experience and every aspect of

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<v Speaker 2>our life in this country is quite insane. So it's

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<v Speaker 2>not by chance or by the opinion of Ramses and

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<v Speaker 2>Q that black people have a harder time here. By this,

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<v Speaker 2>data dating back to the nineteen seventies has accurately shown

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<v Speaker 2>that at a two to one rate, black people are

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<v Speaker 2>more unemployed for a fifty year almost window. The data

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<v Speaker 2>is consistent. It might vee a little one year higher,

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<v Speaker 2>but it comes right back to that same point. Fifty

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<v Speaker 2>two years that this is not just by chance that

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<v Speaker 2>the data over that long of a time would continue

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<v Speaker 2>to show the same results over and over. And what

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<v Speaker 2>we need to get into is these are the symptoms

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<v Speaker 2>or what's the disease, what's leading to the exact why

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<v Speaker 2>exactly of these kinds of acts.

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<v Speaker 3>So watch this.

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<v Speaker 1>What I love about that story is that it shows

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<v Speaker 1>how public opinions shape outcomes for black people, right, And

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<v Speaker 1>we have to do a separate show about how government

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<v Speaker 1>posturing and programs helps either establish or fortify public opinions.

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<v Speaker 1>So we recognize that this all goes back to governmental policies.

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<v Speaker 1>The government says, well, this is what the people want,

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<v Speaker 1>so let's give the people what they want. I'm talking

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<v Speaker 1>about Jim Crow and segregation, all that sort of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>The government like kind of wrote the laws what the

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<v Speaker 1>people wanted, not what was right or otherwise. The government

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<v Speaker 1>will do things that takes advantage of the most vulnerable

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<v Speaker 1>of us in society, and it makes Middle America feel like, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 1>that's just what they're for.

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<v Speaker 2>We're supposed to be able to take advantage of those people.

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<v Speaker 2>And unfortunately, sometimes the government will teach people.

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<v Speaker 1>How to do it right Oh, there you go. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's that's kind of what we're trying to. So do

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<v Speaker 1>me this favor. Now, share the the what was that

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<v Speaker 1>the National Bureau thing?

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<v Speaker 2>So this information that we came across was kind of ironic.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of you don't know, but Ramses and I

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<v Speaker 2>have both worked in higher education together and in academic

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<v Speaker 2>and admissions advising, right, so we got to help students graduate,

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<v Speaker 2>but we also helped students get into school. And we

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<v Speaker 2>noticed very I'm talking about immediately the day one of

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<v Speaker 2>both being at this same school applications. You cannot see

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<v Speaker 2>a face, but you can read a name, and in

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of cases, names by people in this country

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<v Speaker 2>that are African American stand out. They almost scream I'm black.

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<v Speaker 2>And because people are hiring and admitting these these children,

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<v Speaker 2>these adults that are trying to get jobs, people that

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<v Speaker 2>are trying to get into school, those biases creep in,

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<v Speaker 2>creep into their decision. The National Bureau of Economic Research,

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<v Speaker 2>a job applicant with a name that sounds like it

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<v Speaker 2>might belong to an African American, say Lakeisha or Jamal,

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<v Speaker 2>can find it harder to get a job. Despite laws

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<v Speaker 2>against discrimination. Affirmative action a degree of employer enlightenment and

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<v Speaker 2>the desire by some businesses to enhance profits by hiring

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<v Speaker 2>those most qualified. Regardless of race, African Americans are twice

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<v Speaker 2>as likely as whites to be unemployed and earn nearly

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<v Speaker 2>twenty five percent less when employed.

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<v Speaker 3>Boom. Now, where's the source of that? At one more time?

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<v Speaker 2>The National Bureau of Economic Research. Okay, So let's talk

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<v Speaker 2>about Ramsay's jah.

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<v Speaker 1>No, that wasn't que Ward that came up with that, right,

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<v Speaker 1>that whole paragraph was from that place.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I didn't write that. So let's talk about.

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<v Speaker 1>This lady that's trying to run for president, Nikita. What

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<v Speaker 1>is it in Amerika?

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<v Speaker 3>What's her? What's her actual name?

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<v Speaker 2>The people know her as Nikki Hayley.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you give me a Nimroda?

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's a Nida, but her given name. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>please proceed.

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<v Speaker 1>So you may have heard her name in recent weeks

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<v Speaker 1>talking about the Civil War was not thought about slavery,

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<v Speaker 1>That America is not a racist country. In fact, she

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<v Speaker 1>went on to Charlotmagne a you know a friend of

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<v Speaker 1>the show who went on to Charlemagne show the other.

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<v Speaker 3>Day thereafast club, breakfast club.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and kind of again tried to suggest that America

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<v Speaker 1>is not a racist country, all the while using this

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<v Speaker 1>assumed name of Nikki and identifying in the interview the

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<v Speaker 1>very racism that she says that America does not stand upon,

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<v Speaker 1>was not built upon, does not continue to enjoy, the

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<v Speaker 1>legacy of does not continue to perpetuate. And and see

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<v Speaker 1>these data, this number of these numbers we're reading is

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<v Speaker 1>in the same country, right, in the same country.

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<v Speaker 3>So so go ahead, what's her name?

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<v Speaker 2>Nimurada ooh Rondawa?

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<v Speaker 3>Wow?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, Now she admits that she's a brown woman, all right?

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<v Speaker 2>Cool?

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<v Speaker 3>She looks very white passing, no question. She didn't say that.

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<v Speaker 3>You wouldn't not you would not know, no question.

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<v Speaker 1>And the only thing that you have to do with

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<v Speaker 1>a name like that is just changed the name something

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<v Speaker 1>that sounds a little bit more.

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<v Speaker 3>What's the word white? Passing?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, And then you can move through time and space

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like a white woman does. Right, So I

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<v Speaker 1>don't believe that there's any incentive to do that. If

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<v Speaker 1>indeed she is a proun proud brown woman, I believe

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<v Speaker 1>that might be East Indian or she's Indian. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>that there's there's no incentive.

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<v Speaker 2>And tells stories about her experience growing up Indian in

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<v Speaker 2>the Yrst country that directly oppose the things that she's

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<v Speaker 2>saying out loud.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, So, there's no reason to switch your name unless

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<v Speaker 1>you feel like somehow that gives you some sort of

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<v Speaker 1>advantage somewhere. If in fact, you are proud of your

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<v Speaker 1>heritage or upbringing your parents that named you, that the

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<v Speaker 1>only reason to switch your name is because you feel

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<v Speaker 1>like it's going to provide some sort of advantage, some

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<v Speaker 1>more comfortable access to something. Right, And what is the

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<v Speaker 1>barrier that you're trying to overcome called to get to

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<v Speaker 1>the place where things are more easy, to get to

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<v Speaker 1>the place where things are more comfortable for you, where

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<v Speaker 1>you have more access. What does that barrier called? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>around these parts we call that racism. And guess where

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<v Speaker 1>we call it racism in the United States of America,

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<v Speaker 1>and we say it loudly when we say what our

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<v Speaker 1>whole chest because it is factual. Indeed, I can point

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<v Speaker 1>that woman who wants to be the president to the

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<v Speaker 1>very laws that shape the realities that you and i

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<v Speaker 1>q Ward and Rams's Jaw are still dealing with right now,

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<v Speaker 1>and are indeed our families and our communities, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was the law. In fact, this very country was founded

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<v Speaker 1>on the fact that we had a slave class. And

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<v Speaker 1>I put this on almost singularly.

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<v Speaker 2>The reason why slavery in this country is different than

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<v Speaker 2>all other cases of slavery throughout history. That entire quote

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<v Speaker 2>unquote class of people are slaves, not second class birth

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<v Speaker 2>class exactly.

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<v Speaker 3>So watch this.

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<v Speaker 1>So I put a post on our social media the

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<v Speaker 1>other day, and I might butcher it now, but roll

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<v Speaker 1>with me. There was no such thing as white people

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<v Speaker 1>before the Transatlantic slave trade. White people did not exist.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's what I mean when I say.

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<v Speaker 2>That, nor did black people, or did black people.

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<v Speaker 1>And the reason that white people, the term white people

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<v Speaker 1>came about is because European colonizers and enslavers were taking

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<v Speaker 1>black people and they needed a way to delineate the

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<v Speaker 1>slave class from the non slave class. Right and again,

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<v Speaker 1>a slave chattel slavery where if you're my slave because

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<v Speaker 1>I conquered your tribe or whatever, your children are now

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<v Speaker 1>a part of my tribe. Our tribe has grown. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're my slave because I bought you as a slave.

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<v Speaker 1>If you have children, those are not slaves. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>buy them. They were born free in the United States

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<v Speaker 1>of America. That's chattle slavery. Your children and their children

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<v Speaker 1>and their children will be my slaves in perpetuity. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the slavery we had here, a slave class.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay. Now for this woman to say, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Know we're talking about black and employment and that class

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<v Speaker 2>of slave was not about what you just said conquered

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<v Speaker 2>or conflict or lower. No, you're black, so you're a

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<v Speaker 2>slave here.

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<v Speaker 3>That's it.

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<v Speaker 4>That's how this works. He's watching movie twelve Years a slave.

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<v Speaker 4>You could be free and then being slave.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, anyway, so it's very hurtful when people like that tried.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like a slap in our face to say, like,

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<v Speaker 1>America is not a racist coutry. I don't believe America's

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<v Speaker 1>a race, especially for a woman who changed her name

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<v Speaker 1>to get over that hump that we know of as racism,

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<v Speaker 1>that we call it racism. Okay, Now, with this last

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<v Speaker 1>minute or so, I want to make sure that we

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<v Speaker 1>at least hit a couple of points. We're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>black unemployment. One of the things that's really important that

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<v Speaker 1>we discussed on this show is restorative justice. You know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean, what is it that this country can

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<v Speaker 1>do to make things right for this group of people

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<v Speaker 1>who indeed built this very country with our hands and

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<v Speaker 1>our sweat, and.

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<v Speaker 2>This singular group of people who throughout history it has

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<v Speaker 2>not gotten anything in the way of reparations are restorative justice.

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<v Speaker 1>So now you're starting to understand why we have that

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<v Speaker 1>conversation about reparations and how reparations in and of itself

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<v Speaker 1>could serve as investments into black businesses that could affect

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<v Speaker 1>black employment rates. And you're starting to see how this works. Right,

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<v Speaker 1>most crimes that we discuss on the show are indeed

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<v Speaker 1>crimes of poverty. If the same crime if the person

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<v Speaker 1>was rich, there's no need to commit it, right, no

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<v Speaker 1>need to commit it whatsoever. Right, And you got to

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<v Speaker 1>think about that. Instead of what Tupac said, I said

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<v Speaker 1>this on the show all the time. Instead of a

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<v Speaker 1>war on poverty, they have a war on drug so

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<v Speaker 1>the police can bother me, right, what a bar And.

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<v Speaker 2>When the victims of the war on drugs look like us,

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<v Speaker 2>they make it criminal. Now those who are under the

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<v Speaker 2>thumb of what they would have called narcotics then what

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<v Speaker 2>they call opioids.

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<v Speaker 4>Now it's a health crisis. See what I'm saying to you.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what I'm saying, saying, go ahead and say that there,

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<v Speaker 4>but listen.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, hopefully you understand a little bit more of the

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<v Speaker 1>framework of kind of why we push for restorative justice,

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<v Speaker 1>economic justice, reparations, things.

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<v Speaker 3>Like this, because it works. So we'll leave that one

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<v Speaker 3>right there.

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<v Speaker 1>And as always, i'd like to thank you for tuning

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