1 00:00:04,795 --> 00:00:26,075 Speaker 1: Countdown with Keith Olderman is a production of iHeartRadio. If 2 00:00:26,155 --> 00:00:29,915 Speaker 1: Andrew can no longer be Prince because of Jeffrey Epstein, 3 00:00:30,395 --> 00:00:34,155 Speaker 1: Trump can no longer be president because of Jeffrey Epstein. 4 00:00:35,795 --> 00:00:39,315 Speaker 1: I think Trump understands this. I have no doubt Mike 5 00:00:39,395 --> 00:00:42,835 Speaker 1: Johnson understands this. I believe even large swaths of the 6 00:00:42,875 --> 00:00:47,555 Speaker 1: otherwise imbecilic MAGA understand this. It is why Trump and 7 00:00:47,675 --> 00:00:51,515 Speaker 1: Johnson and the others are starving the needy, dissolving Congress, 8 00:00:51,835 --> 00:00:55,755 Speaker 1: destroying the domestic balance of power, gutting the work infrastructure 9 00:00:55,755 --> 00:00:59,435 Speaker 1: at airports, government agencies services. It is why they are 10 00:00:59,515 --> 00:01:03,395 Speaker 1: even cutting the legs out from under every Republican candidate 11 00:01:03,635 --> 00:01:09,395 Speaker 1: in tomorrow's handful of elections. Andrew has been convicted of 12 00:01:09,435 --> 00:01:13,915 Speaker 1: nothing relative to Epstein. Trump has been convicted of nothing 13 00:01:13,955 --> 00:01:18,675 Speaker 1: relative to Epstein. There are no astounding legal findings against Andrew. 14 00:01:18,715 --> 00:01:22,155 Speaker 1: There are no astounding legal findings against Trump. There are 15 00:01:22,195 --> 00:01:25,835 Speaker 1: probably no smoking guns about Andrew in the Epstein files. 16 00:01:26,355 --> 00:01:28,675 Speaker 1: There are probably no smoking guns about Trump in the 17 00:01:28,675 --> 00:01:34,995 Speaker 1: Epstein files. Nevertheless, if Andrew can no longer be Prince 18 00:01:35,115 --> 00:01:39,155 Speaker 1: because of Jeffrey Epstein, Trump can no longer be president 19 00:01:39,835 --> 00:01:44,675 Speaker 1: because of Jeffrey Epstein. Since May, we have known that 20 00:01:44,715 --> 00:01:49,475 Speaker 1: even Trump's own corrupt, servile Attorney General Pam Bondi, told 21 00:01:49,515 --> 00:01:52,035 Speaker 1: Trump that he is in the Epstein files. This was 22 00:01:52,075 --> 00:01:56,915 Speaker 1: reported by a Murdoch newspaper. Murdoch newspapers may only be 23 00:01:57,075 --> 00:02:01,875 Speaker 1: fifty percent true, but no Murdoch newspaper would ever print 24 00:02:01,915 --> 00:02:06,995 Speaker 1: anything false that would damage Trump. Trump's name is reportedly 25 00:02:07,035 --> 00:02:10,155 Speaker 1: even in the binders Bondie handed out to right wing 26 00:02:10,195 --> 00:02:13,875 Speaker 1: propagandists back in February, back when it served Trump to 27 00:02:13,955 --> 00:02:19,915 Speaker 1: pretend he was going to release the Epstein files. Trump 28 00:02:20,075 --> 00:02:29,475 Speaker 1: is in the Epstein files. Andrew Andrew Mountbatten Windsor is 29 00:02:29,515 --> 00:02:35,515 Speaker 1: in the Epstein files. Though the parallels are potent and meaningful, 30 00:02:35,555 --> 00:02:39,755 Speaker 1: there are actually developments that turn against both men and 31 00:02:39,915 --> 00:02:44,235 Speaker 1: involve both men In England. The idea, forgive me, the 32 00:02:44,435 --> 00:02:50,475 Speaker 1: vibe is growing that Andrew Windsor may somehow testify or 33 00:02:50,515 --> 00:02:53,515 Speaker 1: make a statement about what he knows about Epstein. And 34 00:02:53,635 --> 00:02:56,675 Speaker 1: let's not kid ourselves. What anybody knows about Epstein now 35 00:02:56,755 --> 00:03:00,755 Speaker 1: means what do you know about Epstein? And Trump? The 36 00:03:00,875 --> 00:03:04,995 Speaker 1: idea that he could compose a statement specifically for the 37 00:03:05,195 --> 00:03:10,395 Speaker 1: US Congress or somehow be interviewed by Congress. That was 38 00:03:10,475 --> 00:03:16,435 Speaker 1: the second lead story on BBC News all day Friday, 39 00:03:17,235 --> 00:03:22,035 Speaker 1: surpassed only by the hurricane devastation in Jamaica. The seemingly 40 00:03:22,195 --> 00:03:28,355 Speaker 1: preposterous idea is not preposterous. They are damned serious about this. 41 00:03:28,435 --> 00:03:33,315 Speaker 1: They are quoting obscure Democratic congressman pushing for something, anything, 42 00:03:33,515 --> 00:03:36,155 Speaker 1: to at least force the end of the Trump Mike 43 00:03:36,235 --> 00:03:40,595 Speaker 1: Johnson Maga cover up of Trump's connections to Epstein, and 44 00:03:40,635 --> 00:03:47,275 Speaker 1: more importantly, the BBC is quoting the King Charles's statement, 45 00:03:47,955 --> 00:03:49,795 Speaker 1: the one in which he essentially kicked his own brother 46 00:03:49,795 --> 00:03:53,595 Speaker 1: out of the family ended quote. Their majesties wish to 47 00:03:53,635 --> 00:03:56,395 Speaker 1: make clear that their thoughts and utmost sympathies have been 48 00:03:56,435 --> 00:04:00,595 Speaker 1: and will remain with the victims and survivors of any 49 00:04:00,715 --> 00:04:05,915 Speaker 1: and all forms of abuse. In the UK, it is 50 00:04:05,955 --> 00:04:08,195 Speaker 1: taken as almost a given that the most obvious and 51 00:04:08,235 --> 00:04:12,675 Speaker 1: influential way to turn those sympathies into something meaningful and 52 00:04:12,795 --> 00:04:18,995 Speaker 1: restorative is to have Andrew do something what could serve 53 00:04:19,435 --> 00:04:24,595 Speaker 1: justice and protect this king and the next one, and 54 00:04:24,675 --> 00:04:28,395 Speaker 1: yet not require Andrew to self immolate legally than for 55 00:04:28,435 --> 00:04:32,915 Speaker 1: Andrew to tell everything he knows or at least everything 56 00:04:32,915 --> 00:04:38,315 Speaker 1: he knows that won't get him jailed orsued again. This 57 00:04:38,395 --> 00:04:42,515 Speaker 1: sounds far fetched. It is not ideas like this. Things 58 00:04:42,555 --> 00:04:45,995 Speaker 1: extrapolated from news stories do not appear on the BBC 59 00:04:46,315 --> 00:04:50,355 Speaker 1: or the other British news networks spontaneously. They are floated. 60 00:04:51,275 --> 00:04:53,435 Speaker 1: There are people with more than a passing connection to 61 00:04:53,435 --> 00:04:58,075 Speaker 1: the royal family who are floating that idea. Have Andrew 62 00:04:58,195 --> 00:05:08,635 Speaker 1: reveal what he knows about others? Which other something else 63 00:05:08,675 --> 00:05:10,875 Speaker 1: that has just happened that has kicked this into high 64 00:05:10,875 --> 00:05:13,755 Speaker 1: gear shows the impunity with which Trump believes he is 65 00:05:13,795 --> 00:05:15,755 Speaker 1: acting when it comes to the fact that he is 66 00:05:15,795 --> 00:05:19,435 Speaker 1: in the Epstein files, and the likelihood that Andrew knows 67 00:05:19,435 --> 00:05:24,995 Speaker 1: something about those horrific details, that party Friday Night, that 68 00:05:25,155 --> 00:05:30,755 Speaker 1: great Gatsby Halloween party with nineteen twenties indulgences, while Trump 69 00:05:30,835 --> 00:05:33,755 Speaker 1: is cutting off snap funding to what he sees as 70 00:05:33,795 --> 00:05:41,675 Speaker 1: the meaningless rabble with dancing girls or if you prefer strippers, 71 00:05:43,195 --> 00:05:49,035 Speaker 1: maybe Massage givers one of them in a giant Martini 72 00:05:49,075 --> 00:05:55,795 Speaker 1: glass from the insipid Playboy cartoon of the sixties. The 73 00:05:55,875 --> 00:06:00,435 Speaker 1: imagery is amazing, and sometimes you think, God damn it, 74 00:06:00,515 --> 00:06:05,115 Speaker 1: Trump wants to get caught for now. It is Trump's 75 00:06:05,115 --> 00:06:07,515 Speaker 1: middle finger to all those who want him prosecuted for 76 00:06:07,595 --> 00:06:09,995 Speaker 1: the crimes of his presidency and the crimes of his 77 00:06:10,035 --> 00:06:13,315 Speaker 1: life before and for his cover up of Epstein. Now 78 00:06:13,355 --> 00:06:17,915 Speaker 1: that he realizes he is at risk, Trump's self awareness 79 00:06:17,915 --> 00:06:22,755 Speaker 1: of risk is a stunningly variable thing. Only he would 80 00:06:22,795 --> 00:06:25,915 Speaker 1: be stupid enough to throw a Gatsby party while his 81 00:06:25,955 --> 00:06:28,835 Speaker 1: Secretary of the Treasury is saying parts of our economy 82 00:06:28,915 --> 00:06:32,595 Speaker 1: are now in a recession. Only Trump would throw a 83 00:06:32,635 --> 00:06:35,635 Speaker 1: Gatsby party with himself as Gatsby in the middle of 84 00:06:35,675 --> 00:06:40,275 Speaker 1: his own sex ring crisis. I'm going way out on 85 00:06:40,315 --> 00:06:44,635 Speaker 1: a limb here. I'm guessing Trump never read The Great Gatsby. 86 00:06:45,275 --> 00:06:51,195 Speaker 1: I'm guessing Trump never found out what happens to Gatsby. 87 00:06:52,355 --> 00:06:55,715 Speaker 1: We don't know for certain. All the Epstein files contain 88 00:06:56,075 --> 00:07:00,995 Speaker 1: about Andrew or Trump. Inside the degraded, nauseating world of Trump. 89 00:07:01,035 --> 00:07:03,675 Speaker 1: The degree of difference between Andrew and Trump is largely 90 00:07:03,715 --> 00:07:07,835 Speaker 1: the fact that Andrew was sued by the late Virginia Geffray, 91 00:07:08,795 --> 00:07:10,955 Speaker 1: and he settled that case three years ago with no 92 00:07:10,995 --> 00:07:14,555 Speaker 1: admission of wrongdoing, and that Andrew had done a self 93 00:07:14,595 --> 00:07:18,315 Speaker 1: defenestrating television interview with the BBC in twenty nineteen, in 94 00:07:18,355 --> 00:07:23,195 Speaker 1: which his denial was based on the extraordinary claim that 95 00:07:23,315 --> 00:07:27,275 Speaker 1: when Virginia Geffray said she saw him sweaty at a nightclub, 96 00:07:27,635 --> 00:07:31,275 Speaker 1: it destroyed her credibility and proved her a liar because 97 00:07:31,995 --> 00:07:38,595 Speaker 1: he had literally lost the ability to sweat while he 98 00:07:38,755 --> 00:07:43,355 Speaker 1: was serving as a helicopter pilot during the Falklands War. 99 00:07:46,355 --> 00:07:51,995 Speaker 1: Of course, it was Falkland's disease. There are also legal 100 00:07:52,075 --> 00:07:55,915 Speaker 1: processes that differ. Obviously, Trump, whether he believes in checks 101 00:07:55,955 --> 00:08:00,515 Speaker 1: and balances or not, is protected by them. Andrew, meanwhile, 102 00:08:00,555 --> 00:08:03,275 Speaker 1: has been slowly shrunken by his own family and what 103 00:08:03,315 --> 00:08:06,395 Speaker 1: amounts to a monarchy that has absolute power only over 104 00:08:06,475 --> 00:08:11,035 Speaker 1: its own family members. There are virtually no checks or 105 00:08:11,075 --> 00:08:15,035 Speaker 1: balances in that regard in England. When in twenty twenty 106 00:08:15,035 --> 00:08:18,275 Speaker 1: two an American judge let the Giffray case against him continue, 107 00:08:18,355 --> 00:08:23,075 Speaker 1: the late Queen removed all of Andrew's military titles but one. 108 00:08:23,115 --> 00:08:27,235 Speaker 1: When this past January newly revealed text messages indicated Andrew 109 00:08:27,275 --> 00:08:30,395 Speaker 1: had kept in contact with Epstein months after insisting he 110 00:08:30,475 --> 00:08:35,075 Speaker 1: had cut Epstein off. Andrew's future was doomed when a 111 00:08:35,115 --> 00:08:38,875 Speaker 1: second scandal involving a Chinese spy swallowed up what was 112 00:08:38,955 --> 00:08:41,715 Speaker 1: left of Andrew's credibility. His brother, the King, first removed 113 00:08:41,715 --> 00:08:45,115 Speaker 1: his title Duke of York. That was two weeks ago, 114 00:08:45,315 --> 00:08:48,195 Speaker 1: then a week ago. Today he was heckled, apparently by 115 00:08:48,235 --> 00:08:52,115 Speaker 1: a member of the public about Andrew. Finally, last Thursday, 116 00:08:52,155 --> 00:08:54,715 Speaker 1: the King realized that was insufficient, took away his royal 117 00:08:54,755 --> 00:09:00,075 Speaker 1: status entirely. Apparently. He gets to stay in a royal home. 118 00:09:01,075 --> 00:09:03,395 Speaker 1: He is still in the line of succession, but even 119 00:09:03,435 --> 00:09:06,555 Speaker 1: that could change. He is no longer Prince Andrew. He 120 00:09:06,635 --> 00:09:10,995 Speaker 1: is Andrew Mountbatten Windsor now. But the only thing left 121 00:09:11,035 --> 00:09:12,555 Speaker 1: is to force him to change his name to what 122 00:09:12,555 --> 00:09:16,035 Speaker 1: the Windsors called themselves before the First World War, back 123 00:09:16,035 --> 00:09:18,635 Speaker 1: when they still didn't have to hide their German origins. 124 00:09:18,715 --> 00:09:20,635 Speaker 1: The only thing left is to force him to change 125 00:09:20,675 --> 00:09:26,555 Speaker 1: his name to Andy Sachs Coburg, or to prosecute him 126 00:09:26,555 --> 00:09:31,555 Speaker 1: in civilian court if he does not, somehow atone by 127 00:09:31,595 --> 00:09:36,755 Speaker 1: telling all he knows. The point is Trump neither has 128 00:09:36,795 --> 00:09:39,835 Speaker 1: to face the slow but absolute justice and anger of 129 00:09:39,875 --> 00:09:43,155 Speaker 1: a royal family. There is nobody to force him out. 130 00:09:44,355 --> 00:09:46,635 Speaker 1: It's hardly likely to ever come up, but even the 131 00:09:46,675 --> 00:09:49,875 Speaker 1: twenty fifth Amendment has a built in appeals process in 132 00:09:49,875 --> 00:09:52,835 Speaker 1: which a president deemed unfit by his own cabinet and 133 00:09:52,915 --> 00:09:56,235 Speaker 1: his own political party could still fight back against removal 134 00:09:56,555 --> 00:09:59,115 Speaker 1: and delay it for weeks or months, or who knows 135 00:09:59,155 --> 00:10:02,595 Speaker 1: how long by legal means through the House and Senate, 136 00:10:02,635 --> 00:10:06,475 Speaker 1: and presumably, given Trump's history of illegality and disrespect for 137 00:10:06,555 --> 00:10:10,475 Speaker 1: our system, by using the Supreme Court, and if that 138 00:10:10,675 --> 00:10:15,995 Speaker 1: somehow failed, Trump presumably could use the military against the House, 139 00:10:16,075 --> 00:10:19,715 Speaker 1: the Senate, the Supreme Court against JD. Vance, and the 140 00:10:19,755 --> 00:10:28,275 Speaker 1: Cabinet against you me. Whoever. Nevertheless, all of those nuclear 141 00:10:28,315 --> 00:10:30,555 Speaker 1: options that are available to Trump and not to Andrew, 142 00:10:30,595 --> 00:10:33,435 Speaker 1: would have been available to Nixon, or, had it come 143 00:10:33,475 --> 00:10:37,115 Speaker 1: to that, to Clinton or any other president. They all 144 00:10:37,195 --> 00:10:41,235 Speaker 1: had those choices. They did not have the evil and 145 00:10:41,275 --> 00:10:43,835 Speaker 1: the psychosis to use some of them, but Nixon came 146 00:10:43,915 --> 00:10:48,835 Speaker 1: surprisingly close. A president of the United States is simply 147 00:10:48,835 --> 00:10:51,875 Speaker 1: by dint of control of the military, and if he 148 00:10:51,915 --> 00:10:56,235 Speaker 1: ceases to believe in checks and balances, or is manifestly insane, 149 00:10:57,035 --> 00:11:01,835 Speaker 1: he is the most powerful man in the world to 150 00:11:01,915 --> 00:11:05,115 Speaker 1: a mad man. We have given that power. If we 151 00:11:05,195 --> 00:11:08,555 Speaker 1: survive our mistake, we might want to look into fixing this. 152 00:11:09,635 --> 00:11:11,955 Speaker 1: But for the here and now, this is the relevant point. 153 00:11:12,155 --> 00:11:17,035 Speaker 1: The evidence against them both is about the same. The 154 00:11:17,155 --> 00:11:20,435 Speaker 1: shame of them both, were they capable of shame, would 155 00:11:20,475 --> 00:11:24,395 Speaker 1: be about the same. The shame we should feel that 156 00:11:24,475 --> 00:11:27,915 Speaker 1: the United Kingdom, no matter how slowly it moved, finally 157 00:11:27,995 --> 00:11:32,435 Speaker 1: moved to expunge its shame and began to try to 158 00:11:32,475 --> 00:11:35,795 Speaker 1: repair the personal damage its criminal has caused. While we 159 00:11:35,835 --> 00:11:38,435 Speaker 1: are stuck, still suffering at the whims of our criminal. 160 00:11:38,675 --> 00:11:44,675 Speaker 1: Our shame should be boundless. Because if Andrew can no 161 00:11:44,715 --> 00:11:47,355 Speaker 1: longer be prince because of Jeffrey Epstein, Trump can no 162 00:11:47,435 --> 00:12:11,995 Speaker 1: longer be president because of Jeffrey Epstein. And so Trump 163 00:12:12,075 --> 00:12:15,835 Speaker 1: continues his shutdown to make sure there is no vote 164 00:12:15,875 --> 00:12:19,515 Speaker 1: to release the Epstein files, to make sure there is 165 00:12:19,515 --> 00:12:23,835 Speaker 1: no Congresswoman Rehalva to be the last vote to force 166 00:12:23,995 --> 00:12:27,635 Speaker 1: the release of the Epstein files, because they will knock 167 00:12:27,715 --> 00:12:30,595 Speaker 1: at least one more support out from under Trump's ability 168 00:12:30,635 --> 00:12:34,955 Speaker 1: to stay in office if they are released, and they 169 00:12:34,995 --> 00:12:37,875 Speaker 1: will knock at least one more support out from under 170 00:12:37,875 --> 00:12:44,115 Speaker 1: his successors and enablers and apologists from staying in public life. 171 00:12:44,315 --> 00:12:47,915 Speaker 1: Don't take my word for this. Even the craziest of 172 00:12:47,955 --> 00:12:51,795 Speaker 1: Magan know what this is and why and what will 173 00:12:51,835 --> 00:12:57,035 Speaker 1: happen when the dam breaks, Because the dam will break, 174 00:12:57,755 --> 00:13:02,075 Speaker 1: because even a self denying puppet like Mike Johnson can't 175 00:13:02,155 --> 00:13:07,275 Speaker 1: keep it up forever. This is Congressman Thomas Massey. He's 176 00:13:07,275 --> 00:13:09,435 Speaker 1: calling it to Schumer shutdown, but I'm calling it to 177 00:13:09,475 --> 00:13:13,395 Speaker 1: Epstein recess. Not only are we shut down, we're in recess. 178 00:13:13,435 --> 00:13:19,315 Speaker 1: And that's unconventional, unprecedented. Gabby Massey is right. Holy cow, 179 00:13:19,395 --> 00:13:23,435 Speaker 1: I never thought I'd say anything close to that. Yes, 180 00:13:23,475 --> 00:13:26,395 Speaker 1: there are other games Republicans are playing. They have calculated 181 00:13:26,435 --> 00:13:29,075 Speaker 1: wrongly that they can damage the Democrats by in essence, 182 00:13:29,475 --> 00:13:32,795 Speaker 1: closing the gates and further converting the Trump administration into 183 00:13:32,915 --> 00:13:35,555 Speaker 1: just a theft ring that at this moment is doing 184 00:13:35,595 --> 00:13:37,755 Speaker 1: nothing for the citizens of this country and is in 185 00:13:37,795 --> 00:13:41,875 Speaker 1: fact simply stealing our money from us by literally continuing 186 00:13:41,955 --> 00:13:48,035 Speaker 1: taxation without representation. Note the New Jersey Democratic gubernatorial candidate 187 00:13:48,075 --> 00:13:51,595 Speaker 1: Mikey Cheryl actually says in an ad that it's time 188 00:13:51,675 --> 00:13:53,955 Speaker 1: for the state of New Jersey to claw back the 189 00:13:53,995 --> 00:13:57,595 Speaker 1: billions in federal tax money that it sends to Washington 190 00:13:57,635 --> 00:14:01,875 Speaker 1: and does not get back. She is threatening what I 191 00:14:01,995 --> 00:14:10,715 Speaker 1: keep talking about here a federal boycott to break this administration. Meanwhile, 192 00:14:10,995 --> 00:14:15,395 Speaker 1: back to the shutdown. You heard the Secretary of Agriculture right, 193 00:14:16,355 --> 00:14:19,395 Speaker 1: she confirmed the emergency snap funds, designed to be used 194 00:14:19,395 --> 00:14:22,875 Speaker 1: when regular funding is unavailable in an emergency, they can't 195 00:14:22,875 --> 00:14:26,355 Speaker 1: be used in this emergency because that regular funding is unavailable. 196 00:14:27,515 --> 00:14:32,915 Speaker 1: So no emergency funds, because it's an emergency, a Trump 197 00:14:32,955 --> 00:14:39,755 Speaker 1: fabricated emergency. She then issued what seemed to be at 198 00:14:39,835 --> 00:14:43,515 Speaker 1: least did it start a heartfelt conclusion that anybody who 199 00:14:43,675 --> 00:14:47,155 Speaker 1: needs snap benefits in this country that has hot and 200 00:14:47,235 --> 00:14:52,075 Speaker 1: cold running money in every building and goddamned President Gatsby 201 00:14:52,635 --> 00:14:56,555 Speaker 1: Halloween parties, anybody who needs snap benefits in a country 202 00:14:56,595 --> 00:15:01,235 Speaker 1: this rich is the victim of bipartisan failure. 203 00:15:01,755 --> 00:15:07,115 Speaker 2: My message to America is first the fact that your 204 00:15:07,195 --> 00:15:12,595 Speaker 2: government is failing you right now. That poverty is not 205 00:15:12,835 --> 00:15:17,515 Speaker 2: red or blue. It is not a Republican or Democrat issue, 206 00:15:18,115 --> 00:15:20,395 Speaker 2: doesn't matter who you voted for, or even if you 207 00:15:20,515 --> 00:15:24,315 Speaker 2: voted that. If you are in a position where you 208 00:15:24,515 --> 00:15:28,075 Speaker 2: can't feed your family and you're relying on that one 209 00:15:28,195 --> 00:15:30,715 Speaker 2: hundred and eighty seven dollars a month for an average 210 00:15:30,755 --> 00:15:34,395 Speaker 2: family in the SNAP program that we have failed you. 211 00:15:35,075 --> 00:15:41,595 Speaker 1: Then then Speaker Mike Johnson got off his anti porn 212 00:15:41,675 --> 00:15:44,915 Speaker 1: app for a second and came to the rescue with 213 00:15:44,995 --> 00:15:48,555 Speaker 1: one of the most singularly dishonest, non credible statements any 214 00:15:48,595 --> 00:15:52,555 Speaker 1: politician has made in my lifetime. It's up there with 215 00:15:53,235 --> 00:15:58,195 Speaker 1: that statement is no longer operative, and it's clarifying. When 216 00:15:58,235 --> 00:16:01,675 Speaker 1: she says we have failed you, she means we the Democrats. Okay, 217 00:16:01,795 --> 00:16:06,195 Speaker 1: he almost knocked down Secretary sugar Bake. I'm sorry, Secretary 218 00:16:06,275 --> 00:16:12,155 Speaker 1: Rowins to get to that microphone to say that courts 219 00:16:12,155 --> 00:16:14,555 Speaker 1: have ruled the SNAP benefits must be paid. Trump is 220 00:16:14,595 --> 00:16:18,875 Speaker 1: stalling now, using that ruling to stall further by asking 221 00:16:18,915 --> 00:16:22,155 Speaker 1: the courts, seemingly in great concern, to show him how 222 00:16:22,435 --> 00:16:29,955 Speaker 1: to not break the law. Scumbag. However, just as a 223 00:16:29,995 --> 00:16:32,955 Speaker 1: reminder that this country is not only a bunch of lemmings. 224 00:16:32,995 --> 00:16:36,115 Speaker 1: Following Trump off a moral cliff, even though real lemmings 225 00:16:36,155 --> 00:16:39,675 Speaker 1: don't commit mass suicide, that was literally a horrific Disney 226 00:16:39,715 --> 00:16:45,275 Speaker 1: stunt for a movie to counter our sometimes hopeless state. 227 00:16:45,355 --> 00:16:50,235 Speaker 1: There is the story of Manny's Deli on Jefferson in Chicago. 228 00:16:50,515 --> 00:16:56,635 Speaker 1: Starting today, Manny's Deli has promised a family sized meal 229 00:16:58,355 --> 00:17:03,195 Speaker 1: to anyone presenting a snap card this week. I suspect 230 00:17:03,275 --> 00:17:07,755 Speaker 1: they will be inundated. They have started a gofund me. 231 00:17:09,075 --> 00:17:12,875 Speaker 1: The title on the go fundme site is Snap Benefits 232 00:17:13,075 --> 00:17:18,275 Speaker 1: Relief Fund. So if you feel you need to do something, 233 00:17:19,755 --> 00:17:32,475 Speaker 1: there you go. Remember Mary Trump's question last week, why 234 00:17:32,515 --> 00:17:37,475 Speaker 1: do they keep giving her uncle cognitive tests? Why do 235 00:17:37,555 --> 00:17:42,555 Speaker 1: they keep giving him tests? Not why do they give 236 00:17:42,635 --> 00:17:46,915 Speaker 1: him tests? Why do they keep I wanted to reframe 237 00:17:46,955 --> 00:17:49,435 Speaker 1: that question in light of what to me is even 238 00:17:49,595 --> 00:17:53,355 Speaker 1: more relevant every time I think about this. The timing 239 00:17:56,355 --> 00:18:00,435 Speaker 1: six months between the tests and the MRI or MRIs 240 00:18:00,555 --> 00:18:04,835 Speaker 1: connected to the test. They're checking for physical deterioration and 241 00:18:05,475 --> 00:18:15,715 Speaker 1: cognitive deterioration in tandem connected. Those are Alzheimer's tests, aren't they? 242 00:18:15,995 --> 00:18:22,235 Speaker 1: Or something like that. It shouldn't be shocking, yet I 243 00:18:22,275 --> 00:18:27,035 Speaker 1: find it is. However, we phrase Mary Trump's question, why 244 00:18:27,035 --> 00:18:29,875 Speaker 1: do they keep giving Trump cognitive tests? Trump always provides 245 00:18:29,995 --> 00:18:34,555 Speaker 1: enough answers. It is evident he heard about Russia testing 246 00:18:34,595 --> 00:18:40,475 Speaker 1: a nuclear powered missile, and thanks to whatever is wrong 247 00:18:40,515 --> 00:18:44,715 Speaker 1: with him, he only heard testing nuclear missile and then 248 00:18:44,835 --> 00:18:47,915 Speaker 1: ordered testing of nukes by this country as dangerous and 249 00:18:48,115 --> 00:18:52,195 Speaker 1: useless a thing as we could do besides electing him twice. 250 00:18:52,835 --> 00:18:57,235 Speaker 1: He's also repeating himself worked really hard. Twenty four to seven, 251 00:18:57,315 --> 00:18:59,675 Speaker 1: took in trillions of dollars and truck. Schumer said trip 252 00:18:59,715 --> 00:19:01,635 Speaker 1: was a total dud, even though he knows it was 253 00:19:01,635 --> 00:19:04,995 Speaker 1: a spectacular success. Words like that are almost trees. This 254 00:19:05,635 --> 00:19:12,995 Speaker 1: exclamation point, exclamation point, exclamation point. I'm wondering if somebody 255 00:19:13,035 --> 00:19:20,875 Speaker 1: actually convinced him they're not the next post attacking Seth Myers, 256 00:19:20,875 --> 00:19:23,875 Speaker 1: no talent, no ratings, one hundred percent anti Trump, which 257 00:19:23,915 --> 00:19:31,035 Speaker 1: is probably illegal, so still a no. But now the 258 00:19:31,155 --> 00:19:34,755 Speaker 1: crime of criticizing Trump has been reduced from almost treason 259 00:19:35,155 --> 00:19:42,115 Speaker 1: to probably illegal. And then there was the one that 260 00:19:42,235 --> 00:19:45,875 Speaker 1: flashed back to the good old simple days of Kofeve 261 00:19:46,875 --> 00:19:55,395 Speaker 1: quote south card d d d D South c A 262 00:19:55,875 --> 00:20:06,155 Speaker 1: r e r d d d d south krd south carideh, 263 00:20:08,715 --> 00:20:12,315 Speaker 1: to which Gavin Newsom's social media whiz added the extra 264 00:20:12,435 --> 00:20:16,755 Speaker 1: des stand for dementia. And of course, Newsom was on 265 00:20:16,875 --> 00:20:20,395 Speaker 1: Meet the Press yesterday and the amazingly unqualified Kristin Welker 266 00:20:20,675 --> 00:20:23,635 Speaker 1: asked him if his running spoof of Trump's psychosis and 267 00:20:23,675 --> 00:20:31,355 Speaker 1: fragility served only to normalize Trump's behavior, and I think 268 00:20:32,035 --> 00:20:38,635 Speaker 1: he's done a marvelous job. He may have found his niche, 269 00:20:38,835 --> 00:20:41,675 Speaker 1: but I'm just sorry he didn't. Gavin Newsom just didn't 270 00:20:41,795 --> 00:20:44,635 Speaker 1: say what he could have said that would have caused 271 00:20:44,675 --> 00:20:50,195 Speaker 1: the cancelation of Meet the Press. He could have said, no, Kristin, 272 00:20:51,235 --> 00:20:54,555 Speaker 1: you doing softball interviews with Trump and his criminal gang. 273 00:20:54,835 --> 00:21:05,435 Speaker 1: That's what's serving to normalize Trump's behavior. One bit of relief, 274 00:21:05,595 --> 00:21:08,835 Speaker 1: unrelated to politics or Welker or Newsom or anybody else. 275 00:21:09,755 --> 00:21:14,515 Speaker 1: On social media, you may have seen it. Hope it 276 00:21:14,755 --> 00:21:18,835 Speaker 1: gives you a second laugh. Now. Someone posted two shots 277 00:21:18,835 --> 00:21:23,155 Speaker 1: of a men's room at the football stadium at Missouri 278 00:21:23,395 --> 00:21:28,875 Speaker 1: State where above a row of urinals are two windows 279 00:21:30,675 --> 00:21:34,275 Speaker 1: through which you can see the end zone of the 280 00:21:34,275 --> 00:21:37,595 Speaker 1: football stadium and the scoreboard of the football stadium, to 281 00:21:37,675 --> 00:21:44,995 Speaker 1: which photographer Andrew Stein writes, quote, you have a real 282 00:21:45,195 --> 00:21:55,755 Speaker 1: stadium naming rights opportunity here, P and C Bank. Oh 283 00:21:55,795 --> 00:21:58,195 Speaker 1: my god, P and C Bank also of interest here 284 00:21:58,235 --> 00:22:00,395 Speaker 1: In an all new edition of Countdown, the election is tomorrow, 285 00:22:00,435 --> 00:22:04,115 Speaker 1: but Andrew Cuomo has actually proclaimed himself Mayor of New 286 00:22:04,235 --> 00:22:09,515 Speaker 1: York already. Actually that's not a bad plan, considering nobody 287 00:22:09,515 --> 00:22:14,755 Speaker 1: else is going to. And yes, the Baseball World Series 288 00:22:14,875 --> 00:22:19,115 Speaker 1: ended exactly the way I said it would, with everybody 289 00:22:19,115 --> 00:22:22,955 Speaker 1: demanding that Fox never interview a manager in the middle 290 00:22:23,035 --> 00:22:27,715 Speaker 1: of a game ever. Ever Again, that used to be 291 00:22:27,875 --> 00:22:31,795 Speaker 1: my job. Well, everything used to be my job, but 292 00:22:31,995 --> 00:22:34,395 Speaker 1: that used to be my job. I have thoughts on 293 00:22:34,475 --> 00:22:37,195 Speaker 1: this and the story for you of a one time 294 00:22:37,275 --> 00:22:43,115 Speaker 1: the in game interviewer mattered, the riot that nearly ensued, 295 00:22:43,995 --> 00:22:47,275 Speaker 1: and how it all ended with me basically being ordered 296 00:22:47,315 --> 00:22:53,595 Speaker 1: to go sit on George Steinbrenner's lap. That's next. This 297 00:22:53,795 --> 00:22:59,595 Speaker 1: is Countdown, mean cea bank. This is Countdown with Keith 298 00:22:59,635 --> 00:23:23,715 Speaker 1: Olberman still ahead on this all new episode of Countdown. 299 00:23:23,795 --> 00:23:27,515 Speaker 1: The World Series proved the United States and Canada can 300 00:23:27,675 --> 00:23:33,435 Speaker 1: still agree on one thing. No more goddamned interviews of 301 00:23:33,475 --> 00:23:43,875 Speaker 1: the managers during Game seven, everybody in baseball please. In fact, 302 00:23:44,475 --> 00:23:47,755 Speaker 1: no interviews during games ever, or reports from the dugouts 303 00:23:47,795 --> 00:23:50,315 Speaker 1: unless they're really is news. And it's twenty five years 304 00:23:50,355 --> 00:23:52,395 Speaker 1: now since I did that job. But I did it 305 00:23:52,435 --> 00:23:55,475 Speaker 1: for forty games, and I think there were only three 306 00:23:55,515 --> 00:24:00,075 Speaker 1: times in like four years they really needed me in 307 00:24:00,075 --> 00:24:03,235 Speaker 1: the dugout to break news to the TV audience. On 308 00:24:03,275 --> 00:24:05,795 Speaker 1: the other hand, one of them was when only by 309 00:24:05,795 --> 00:24:09,275 Speaker 1: the slimmest of margins did Fenway Park not erupt in 310 00:24:09,355 --> 00:24:14,395 Speaker 1: a mid game riot involving the Yankees, angry Boston cops, 311 00:24:14,635 --> 00:24:17,275 Speaker 1: and all the drunken Red Sox fans in the stands, 312 00:24:18,035 --> 00:24:21,475 Speaker 1: And that led to me being ordered to sit virtually 313 00:24:21,555 --> 00:24:27,155 Speaker 1: in the lap of Yike's owner, George Steinbrenner. Yes, I'm 314 00:24:27,195 --> 00:24:30,155 Speaker 1: a dugout reporter. Here's why we shouldn't have dugout reporters 315 00:24:30,395 --> 00:24:33,355 Speaker 1: except once in a while. Next in things I promised 316 00:24:33,395 --> 00:24:35,915 Speaker 1: not to tell first of believe it or not, there's 317 00:24:35,915 --> 00:24:38,275 Speaker 1: still more new idiots to talk about. The roundup of 318 00:24:38,315 --> 00:24:41,355 Speaker 1: the miss Grants morons and Dunning Krueger effects specimens who 319 00:24:41,395 --> 00:24:46,715 Speaker 1: constitute today's other worst persons in the world at the 320 00:24:46,715 --> 00:24:51,235 Speaker 1: Bronze Worst. Scott Jennings. You know this fop. This is 321 00:24:51,275 --> 00:24:54,635 Speaker 1: the CNN guy who looks like Kermit the Frog and 322 00:24:54,715 --> 00:24:58,155 Speaker 1: spends three quarters of his time making faces to the camera. 323 00:24:58,915 --> 00:25:01,795 Speaker 1: And he was crowing about ending Jimmy Kimmel's career and 324 00:25:01,875 --> 00:25:05,915 Speaker 1: I wrote back on Twitter your next mf meaning his 325 00:25:06,035 --> 00:25:09,835 Speaker 1: career obviously, and he reported it to the FBI and 326 00:25:09,915 --> 00:25:13,755 Speaker 1: to director, I'll take it in cash Petel because I 327 00:25:13,835 --> 00:25:20,195 Speaker 1: threatened to harm his career. This self martyring paranoid idiot. 328 00:25:20,315 --> 00:25:22,435 Speaker 1: They put on CNN and he tries to beat up 329 00:25:22,475 --> 00:25:26,795 Speaker 1: liberals and they still can't get anybody to watch. Lawrence O'Donnell, 330 00:25:27,195 --> 00:25:30,915 Speaker 1: who I do not support, clocked this guy Jennings, who 331 00:25:30,915 --> 00:25:34,795 Speaker 1: I do not support on MSNBC, which I do not support. 332 00:25:35,435 --> 00:25:37,755 Speaker 1: And by the way, which is weirder the fact that 333 00:25:37,795 --> 00:25:40,435 Speaker 1: I retired from ESPN five years ago after all that 334 00:25:40,475 --> 00:25:45,275 Speaker 1: Sturmann drong, and I'm officially a Disney retiree, or the 335 00:25:45,275 --> 00:25:47,155 Speaker 1: fact that if I make it to a week from 336 00:25:47,155 --> 00:25:52,755 Speaker 1: this Saturday when they change to ms now, I will 337 00:25:52,835 --> 00:26:00,635 Speaker 1: have professionally and personally outlasted MSNBC. Anyway, Lawrence doesn't do 338 00:26:00,755 --> 00:26:02,755 Speaker 1: much on the air that somebody else didn't do first. 339 00:26:02,795 --> 00:26:05,795 Speaker 1: In like two thousand and seven, this was good. He 340 00:26:05,835 --> 00:26:10,475 Speaker 1: accused Scott Jennings of going crazy town maga for the money, 341 00:26:11,755 --> 00:26:16,875 Speaker 1: Scotty no like quote. There's this lunatic on MSNBC at 342 00:26:16,875 --> 00:26:20,395 Speaker 1: ten o'clock every night named Lawrence O'Donnell. I had sort 343 00:26:20,435 --> 00:26:22,715 Speaker 1: of forgotten that he was a thing, but I guess 344 00:26:22,755 --> 00:26:25,035 Speaker 1: he still has a show, and he went crazy on 345 00:26:25,075 --> 00:26:28,875 Speaker 1: yours truly. The other night he tweeted about this too. 346 00:26:29,035 --> 00:26:33,115 Speaker 1: Rule one, if you do a podcast or a radio show, 347 00:26:33,195 --> 00:26:36,715 Speaker 1: or a TV show or a tweet about somebody's irrelevance, 348 00:26:37,075 --> 00:26:41,195 Speaker 1: you just self owned they're relevant to you, aren't they. 349 00:26:41,875 --> 00:26:44,275 Speaker 1: I'm not saying Lawrence O'Donnell is irrelevant. I'm not saying 350 00:26:44,275 --> 00:26:48,395 Speaker 1: Scott Jennings is irrelevant by talking about them. I'm making 351 00:26:48,435 --> 00:26:51,595 Speaker 1: them relevant if they somehow were not relevant before. And 352 00:26:51,635 --> 00:26:54,875 Speaker 1: Scott Jennings when he says Lawrence U. Donald is irrelevant, 353 00:26:54,915 --> 00:26:59,755 Speaker 1: is lying because he's saying it. Secondly, Jennings claimed the 354 00:26:59,795 --> 00:27:05,995 Speaker 1: show he is on Abby Phillip platforms. Fascist is beating 355 00:27:06,075 --> 00:27:09,355 Speaker 1: Lawrence O'Donnell by thirty percent in the advertising demo. I 356 00:27:09,355 --> 00:27:12,035 Speaker 1: don't know where he got that number. But in October, 357 00:27:12,435 --> 00:27:16,915 Speaker 1: CNN and MSNBC for most of primetime programming, hit record 358 00:27:16,995 --> 00:27:21,755 Speaker 1: lows in all categories. So you're arguing about twelve viewers 359 00:27:21,995 --> 00:27:27,835 Speaker 1: or ten viewers. But MSNBC's total audience is still sixty 360 00:27:27,875 --> 00:27:33,355 Speaker 1: percent larger than CNN's and that applies for Laurence o'donald, 361 00:27:34,075 --> 00:27:38,915 Speaker 1: about sixty percent larger than Scott Jennings, who's irrelevant. Neither 362 00:27:38,955 --> 00:27:41,715 Speaker 1: of you is irrelevant. We're talking about you, the runner up, 363 00:27:41,755 --> 00:27:47,675 Speaker 1: also not irrelevant, also not truthful. Carolon Levitt, you saw 364 00:27:47,755 --> 00:27:51,235 Speaker 1: what Trump did to the Lincoln bathroom in which he 365 00:27:51,275 --> 00:27:56,275 Speaker 1: took out the sort of staid nineteen Forti's Art Deco 366 00:27:56,435 --> 00:28:00,195 Speaker 1: green tile style and said it was inappropriate for the 367 00:28:00,235 --> 00:28:04,155 Speaker 1: Lincoln era. And he put in statuary marble, and he 368 00:28:04,195 --> 00:28:06,355 Speaker 1: said this is very appropriate for the time of Abraham 369 00:28:06,355 --> 00:28:08,235 Speaker 1: Lincoln and in fact could be the marble that was 370 00:28:08,275 --> 00:28:13,675 Speaker 1: originally there. Because Trump, unable to process anything he did 371 00:28:13,715 --> 00:28:18,235 Speaker 1: not personally witness, thinks that Lincoln, who needed to borrow 372 00:28:18,315 --> 00:28:22,955 Speaker 1: money to get guns to try to defend Fort Sumpter, 373 00:28:24,955 --> 00:28:27,915 Speaker 1: he put marble in the White House. Trump thinks Lincoln 374 00:28:27,995 --> 00:28:30,635 Speaker 1: put marble in the White House. Trump thinks all the 375 00:28:30,675 --> 00:28:35,795 Speaker 1: other presidents are just like him, batshit crazy. But Caroline 376 00:28:35,875 --> 00:28:40,195 Speaker 1: lying Levitt, who is there to make Trump seem like 377 00:28:40,275 --> 00:28:43,555 Speaker 1: he's not trying to kill us all, looked at the 378 00:28:43,595 --> 00:28:46,995 Speaker 1: pictures and read. When I first learned a toilet like 379 00:28:47,075 --> 00:28:52,355 Speaker 1: that existed inside the White House, I was horrified. President 380 00:28:52,395 --> 00:28:55,195 Speaker 1: Trump is making the People's House more elegant and beautiful 381 00:28:55,315 --> 00:28:59,595 Speaker 1: for generations of Americans to come idiot, the next one 382 00:28:59,595 --> 00:29:01,475 Speaker 1: can just rip all the marble out and put in 383 00:29:01,915 --> 00:29:07,355 Speaker 1: I don't know Outthouse Brown Carolinon is upset because there 384 00:29:07,395 --> 00:29:10,555 Speaker 1: is indoor plumbing in the White House. I mean her job, 385 00:29:10,595 --> 00:29:16,195 Speaker 1: after all, her job is to throw Trump's poop at America. 386 00:29:16,275 --> 00:29:20,235 Speaker 1: But our winner, once again, it's Andrew Cuomo. I don't 387 00:29:20,275 --> 00:29:23,395 Speaker 1: need to go on forever about Andrew Cuomo, although I have, 388 00:29:24,075 --> 00:29:27,795 Speaker 1: although the chief apologist and retributionist from his governor days. 389 00:29:28,075 --> 00:29:31,955 Speaker 1: Melissa de Rosa she threatened a student at Cornell who 390 00:29:31,995 --> 00:29:35,435 Speaker 1: asked about Cuomo's sexual harassment history at a seminar there 391 00:29:35,475 --> 00:29:37,995 Speaker 1: per the Cornell Daily Sun, for which I worked for 392 00:29:38,075 --> 00:29:41,395 Speaker 1: one night. God forbid anyone in your family is ever 393 00:29:41,515 --> 00:29:46,435 Speaker 1: falsely accused. Who in Andrew Como's family was falsely accused? 394 00:29:47,355 --> 00:29:50,275 Speaker 1: God forbid anyone in your family is ever falsely accused? 395 00:29:50,315 --> 00:29:52,915 Speaker 1: And then someone runs around and calls them disgraced and 396 00:29:52,995 --> 00:29:55,715 Speaker 1: asked how you can stand by them. I hope you 397 00:29:55,755 --> 00:29:58,995 Speaker 1: don't have to deal with that moment. Watch yourself when 398 00:29:59,035 --> 00:30:01,275 Speaker 1: you say things like that in public, or if you 399 00:30:01,355 --> 00:30:07,835 Speaker 1: want to be taken seriously. Melissa DeRosa threatens a Cornell student. 400 00:30:08,915 --> 00:30:12,235 Speaker 1: God forbid, Melissa de Rosa, you find yourself on the 401 00:30:12,315 --> 00:30:17,075 Speaker 1: advisory board of Cornell's Department of Communications, and then you 402 00:30:17,195 --> 00:30:20,675 Speaker 1: threaten one of the Cornell's students and the most famous 403 00:30:20,675 --> 00:30:24,315 Speaker 1: graduate of the Cornell Department of Communication. Hi, Hello, how 404 00:30:24,315 --> 00:30:27,475 Speaker 1: are you? Calls his pals in the administration and says, 405 00:30:27,675 --> 00:30:30,715 Speaker 1: get rid of this clown. She's hurting the school and 406 00:30:30,835 --> 00:30:35,355 Speaker 1: threatening the students. But back to the main point, her 407 00:30:35,395 --> 00:30:39,555 Speaker 1: idiot boss. A New York Daily News reporter named Josie 408 00:30:39,555 --> 00:30:43,555 Speaker 1: Stratman caught this all credit to her. Cuomo did a 409 00:30:43,595 --> 00:30:46,715 Speaker 1: Google meet last week, and of course, like all zoom 410 00:30:46,915 --> 00:30:49,835 Speaker 1: like calls, you enter your name on a Google Meet 411 00:30:49,915 --> 00:30:54,315 Speaker 1: and it is superimposed above or over or below your image. 412 00:30:54,315 --> 00:30:57,275 Speaker 1: And what did Cuomo? Still losing the mayor election by 413 00:30:57,315 --> 00:31:00,995 Speaker 1: double digits? The election is tomorrow. What did he put 414 00:31:00,995 --> 00:31:06,955 Speaker 1: in as his name on the Google meet? Mayor Cuomo? 415 00:31:09,235 --> 00:31:11,755 Speaker 1: It says Mayor Cuomo in the lower left end of 416 00:31:11,835 --> 00:31:15,115 Speaker 1: corner of the picture of him staring daggers into the 417 00:31:15,155 --> 00:31:20,715 Speaker 1: camera as usual. Hope you framed a screenshot of that boy, 418 00:31:20,795 --> 00:31:24,835 Speaker 1: because that's the only time anybody's gonna call you that. Andrew, 419 00:31:24,915 --> 00:31:27,835 Speaker 1: of course, you could legally change your first name to 420 00:31:28,235 --> 00:31:32,115 Speaker 1: Mayor if it means that much to you. Cuomo, Today's 421 00:31:32,155 --> 00:31:34,555 Speaker 1: other worst person. 422 00:31:35,835 --> 00:31:36,195 Speaker 2: And the. 423 00:31:49,515 --> 00:31:52,795 Speaker 1: The World Series is over, and after the Jays somehow 424 00:31:52,875 --> 00:31:56,315 Speaker 1: managed to outworst the Dodgers in critical situations. The Dodgers 425 00:31:56,355 --> 00:31:59,835 Speaker 1: are the first repeat World champions since two thousand and 426 00:31:59,875 --> 00:32:02,475 Speaker 1: the first in the National League since nineteen seventy six, 427 00:32:02,755 --> 00:32:05,915 Speaker 1: and thus they almost guarantee that the owner will use 428 00:32:06,035 --> 00:32:09,235 Speaker 1: this as an excuse to again lock out the players 429 00:32:09,235 --> 00:32:11,715 Speaker 1: a year after next, or try to force the players 430 00:32:11,715 --> 00:32:15,155 Speaker 1: to strike in the owner's continuing hope to get a 431 00:32:15,315 --> 00:32:19,355 Speaker 1: hard salary cap, something they have been looking for longer 432 00:32:19,355 --> 00:32:22,795 Speaker 1: than King Arthur looked for the Holy Grail, and with 433 00:32:22,875 --> 00:32:27,955 Speaker 1: as much success see total lack of competitive balance. The 434 00:32:27,995 --> 00:32:30,795 Speaker 1: same team as won two in a row. Let's cancel 435 00:32:30,835 --> 00:32:36,315 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty seven season. It's the player's fault, all right. 436 00:32:36,355 --> 00:32:38,635 Speaker 1: There'll be plenty of time to talk about that later on. 437 00:32:39,315 --> 00:32:43,875 Speaker 1: Noting only that the Dodgers Yoshivo Yamamoto is expected to 438 00:32:43,915 --> 00:32:47,955 Speaker 1: pitch again tonight in Game nine. In our number one 439 00:32:47,995 --> 00:32:50,675 Speaker 1: story on the Countdown, I am a former Baseball Network 440 00:32:50,715 --> 00:32:54,115 Speaker 1: TV dugout reporter. Here's why we should eliminate interviews with 441 00:32:54,115 --> 00:32:57,315 Speaker 1: players and managers with dugout reporters during the game unless 442 00:32:57,315 --> 00:33:02,395 Speaker 1: there is really news, really really really really news. Having 443 00:33:02,515 --> 00:33:06,315 Speaker 1: watched all the World Series since nineteen sixty six, they 444 00:33:06,315 --> 00:33:10,875 Speaker 1: always teach us the same old things, but in new ways. First, 445 00:33:11,195 --> 00:33:14,835 Speaker 1: baseball played well can make for a boring World Series, 446 00:33:14,915 --> 00:33:18,555 Speaker 1: and baseball played badly can make for a thrilling One second, 447 00:33:18,795 --> 00:33:22,395 Speaker 1: those artifacts this guy's glove, that guy's shirt, the other 448 00:33:22,435 --> 00:33:25,235 Speaker 1: guy's jock, the ones that go to the Hall of Fame, 449 00:33:25,275 --> 00:33:27,475 Speaker 1: and they make a big deal about that. They may 450 00:33:27,555 --> 00:33:30,275 Speaker 1: go on display at the Hall of Fame for a while, 451 00:33:30,555 --> 00:33:33,835 Speaker 1: but in fact all of them soon or late wind 452 00:33:33,915 --> 00:33:37,235 Speaker 1: up on a shelf or in a drawer in a 453 00:33:37,275 --> 00:33:42,915 Speaker 1: giant subterranean storage vault. Almost nobody ever sees they have 454 00:33:43,075 --> 00:33:45,955 Speaker 1: like fourteen Pete Rose uniforms there. For all I know, 455 00:33:45,995 --> 00:33:49,795 Speaker 1: they have Pete Rose there. Third, there have never been 456 00:33:49,835 --> 00:33:52,835 Speaker 1: greater pitchers than today. There have never been greater hitters 457 00:33:52,835 --> 00:33:56,515 Speaker 1: than today. There have never been greater runners than today. 458 00:33:57,475 --> 00:34:00,035 Speaker 1: There have never been greater fielders than today. Yet, the 459 00:34:00,155 --> 00:34:03,355 Speaker 1: number of guys per team who can actually play baseball 460 00:34:03,955 --> 00:34:07,995 Speaker 1: without what are literally written instructions that they keep in 461 00:34:08,035 --> 00:34:11,595 Speaker 1: their back pockets of their uniforms. The number of those 462 00:34:11,635 --> 00:34:14,755 Speaker 1: guys is down to about three per team, and a 463 00:34:14,795 --> 00:34:16,555 Speaker 1: friend of mine, who has been a Major League play 464 00:34:16,555 --> 00:34:20,075 Speaker 1: by play announcer for decades, says, no, I'm wrong, it's 465 00:34:20,115 --> 00:34:24,235 Speaker 1: actually about two per team. And the other thing the 466 00:34:24,235 --> 00:34:28,955 Speaker 1: World Series teaches us year after year, don't do so 467 00:34:29,115 --> 00:34:34,475 Speaker 1: many interviews. In the sixties, they used to have people 468 00:34:34,515 --> 00:34:39,835 Speaker 1: doing interviews of celebrity fans during the games. They were pointless. 469 00:34:39,915 --> 00:34:44,875 Speaker 1: They wasted time. Now they interview managers and players during 470 00:34:44,875 --> 00:34:49,435 Speaker 1: the game. They're pointless. They waste time. You should have 471 00:34:49,555 --> 00:34:52,755 Speaker 1: a reporter in each dugout or next to each dugout. 472 00:34:52,915 --> 00:34:56,275 Speaker 1: You should go to them when there is news, not 473 00:34:56,555 --> 00:34:59,955 Speaker 1: while the manager is trying to signal to his players 474 00:34:59,955 --> 00:35:02,395 Speaker 1: where to play defensively, and you're going to interview him. 475 00:35:02,435 --> 00:35:06,515 Speaker 1: Then I was the dugout guy for twelve World Series 476 00:35:06,595 --> 00:35:11,275 Speaker 1: games and sixteen League Championship games on two networks, also 477 00:35:11,395 --> 00:35:13,355 Speaker 1: two All Star Games and in the All Star Games. 478 00:35:13,395 --> 00:35:15,435 Speaker 1: A dugout reporter is not only a good idea, but 479 00:35:15,475 --> 00:35:19,275 Speaker 1: an essential one. More interviews means less, meaningless commentary about 480 00:35:19,275 --> 00:35:22,555 Speaker 1: the meaningless All Star games. But in literally forty games 481 00:35:22,555 --> 00:35:30,195 Speaker 1: in dugouts on TV, I covered three actual stories three 482 00:35:31,115 --> 00:35:34,235 Speaker 1: the rest of the time, I didn't even need to 483 00:35:34,275 --> 00:35:37,155 Speaker 1: have a battery in my microphone. I could have pre 484 00:35:37,235 --> 00:35:42,355 Speaker 1: recorded my stuff in a studio somewhere. Three stories that 485 00:35:42,435 --> 00:35:45,395 Speaker 1: the viewer cared about, Three stories that I cared about. 486 00:35:45,715 --> 00:35:51,675 Speaker 1: The rest Heredia is warming up in the bullpen, Joe. 487 00:35:53,235 --> 00:35:58,635 Speaker 1: The rest was filler. Oddly, of those three, two of 488 00:35:58,635 --> 00:36:02,995 Speaker 1: them happened in the same weekend, and they will not 489 00:36:03,235 --> 00:36:06,635 Speaker 1: hang the nineteen ninety nine American League Championship Series in 490 00:36:06,675 --> 00:36:10,155 Speaker 1: any kind of sports art museum. There was bad pitching, 491 00:36:10,235 --> 00:36:14,515 Speaker 1: bad defense, bad hitting, and especially bad sportsmanship by players 492 00:36:14,515 --> 00:36:18,155 Speaker 1: and fans alike. But for me, covering the New York 493 00:36:18,235 --> 00:36:21,035 Speaker 1: Yankees through all five games from the unique vantage point 494 00:36:21,075 --> 00:36:25,355 Speaker 1: of a corner of their dugout, it was perfection. The 495 00:36:25,395 --> 00:36:28,875 Speaker 1: good stuff started in Game three on Saturday, October sixteenth, 496 00:36:28,995 --> 00:36:31,595 Speaker 1: nineteen ninety nine, and it featured the return of the 497 00:36:31,595 --> 00:36:35,075 Speaker 1: former Red Sox hero Roger Clemens in the uniform of 498 00:36:35,115 --> 00:36:38,555 Speaker 1: the hated Yanks to Fenway Park, Boston. I don't have 499 00:36:38,675 --> 00:36:41,115 Speaker 1: much time for Roger Clemens, but I was a witness 500 00:36:41,195 --> 00:36:45,195 Speaker 1: to two occasions, possibly the only two occasions of his life. 501 00:36:45,315 --> 00:36:49,315 Speaker 1: When he received the raw deal rather than dishing it out, 502 00:36:49,915 --> 00:36:52,995 Speaker 1: the fans at Boston's Fenway Park blamed Clemens for leaving 503 00:36:53,035 --> 00:36:56,155 Speaker 1: the old town team two years previously, when it was 504 00:36:56,235 --> 00:36:59,515 Speaker 1: a decision actually made by Red Sox management. So they 505 00:36:59,635 --> 00:37:02,235 Speaker 1: serenaded and booed him out of that game after just 506 00:37:02,315 --> 00:37:06,435 Speaker 1: fifteen batters and just over two and our Fox TV 507 00:37:06,595 --> 00:37:10,835 Speaker 1: cameras caught them tearing down Roger Clemens banners which hung 508 00:37:10,915 --> 00:37:15,235 Speaker 1: outside the park. Poor Roger completely rattled, fell apart like 509 00:37:15,275 --> 00:37:18,235 Speaker 1: a twelve dollars fake rolex, and from where I sat 510 00:37:18,275 --> 00:37:20,635 Speaker 1: between the third base camera and the Yankee dugout, you 511 00:37:20,675 --> 00:37:25,195 Speaker 1: could see he was ashen. The game got out of 512 00:37:25,275 --> 00:37:28,155 Speaker 1: hand quickly, a theme for the series. Boston led thirteen 513 00:37:28,195 --> 00:37:31,035 Speaker 1: to nothing in the seventh inning. One of the oddities 514 00:37:31,035 --> 00:37:33,195 Speaker 1: of my seat was that between me and the Yankee 515 00:37:33,235 --> 00:37:36,315 Speaker 1: bench was a low railing and very ancient chicken wire 516 00:37:36,435 --> 00:37:41,115 Speaker 1: fence that had been painted over annually for something like 517 00:37:41,555 --> 00:37:44,875 Speaker 1: since the First World War. But next to the fence 518 00:37:44,915 --> 00:37:48,355 Speaker 1: on the player's side was the dugout bathroom. It was 519 00:37:48,395 --> 00:37:52,475 Speaker 1: really just a door and a urinal, so at some point, 520 00:37:52,635 --> 00:37:55,195 Speaker 1: every Yankee player came down to that end of the dugout, 521 00:37:55,235 --> 00:37:58,715 Speaker 1: and almost always they said hi, and then excuse me. 522 00:37:58,755 --> 00:38:02,115 Speaker 1: A minute late in the game, as it got dark, 523 00:38:02,195 --> 00:38:06,955 Speaker 1: the Yankee superb Cuban Emmigray pitcher Orlando El Duque Hernandez 524 00:38:06,995 --> 00:38:10,635 Speaker 1: made that track and said hi, but did not go 525 00:38:10,715 --> 00:38:14,075 Speaker 1: into the tiny bathroom in the dugout at Fenway Park. Instead, 526 00:38:14,115 --> 00:38:15,995 Speaker 1: he sat down on the steps right next to the 527 00:38:15,995 --> 00:38:19,235 Speaker 1: little chicken wire fence, and he said, Kate, can I 528 00:38:19,235 --> 00:38:22,715 Speaker 1: ask you a question? I was startled. The official line 529 00:38:22,755 --> 00:38:26,115 Speaker 1: was El Duque Hernandez did not speak any English. I 530 00:38:26,195 --> 00:38:30,035 Speaker 1: pointed this out to him. He laughed, you'll keep my secret. 531 00:38:30,475 --> 00:38:32,555 Speaker 1: You know how much time I save not doing interviews 532 00:38:32,555 --> 00:38:36,635 Speaker 1: in English. He got an occasional conjugation wrong, Otherwise his 533 00:38:36,675 --> 00:38:41,275 Speaker 1: English was perfect. He got to his question, Keith, why 534 00:38:41,275 --> 00:38:43,955 Speaker 1: do you leave SportsCenter? You and Dan were so good 535 00:38:44,075 --> 00:38:47,995 Speaker 1: way downtown. Bang, they're not gonna get them. I suspect 536 00:38:48,035 --> 00:38:50,715 Speaker 1: anybody sitting in the stands in the ten rows nearest me? 537 00:38:50,755 --> 00:38:54,435 Speaker 1: Could hear my laughter? Orlando, I left Sports Center before 538 00:38:54,435 --> 00:38:57,115 Speaker 1: you left Cuba. How did you see us? He said? 539 00:38:57,155 --> 00:39:00,195 Speaker 1: We have nothing in Cuba, but we have baseball fields 540 00:39:00,315 --> 00:39:03,195 Speaker 1: and we have satellites. It's deep, and I don't think 541 00:39:03,235 --> 00:39:07,395 Speaker 1: it's playable. Stunned, I had already discovered that nearly every 542 00:39:07,435 --> 00:39:10,155 Speaker 1: American born Major League player of nineteen ninety nine knew 543 00:39:10,155 --> 00:39:13,755 Speaker 1: me by voice, let alone by sight. But this Cuba 544 00:39:13,835 --> 00:39:17,755 Speaker 1: thing and el Duque reciting my old sports center catchphrases 545 00:39:17,835 --> 00:39:21,155 Speaker 1: was a genuine surprise. Oh, yes, you and Dan, you 546 00:39:21,235 --> 00:39:23,395 Speaker 1: teach me a lot of my English. What's the one 547 00:39:23,395 --> 00:39:26,515 Speaker 1: for the hockey? Can't believe I shrunk that guy's freaking hand. 548 00:39:26,835 --> 00:39:30,275 Speaker 1: I love that. Why'd you leave? I tried to explain 549 00:39:30,275 --> 00:39:32,835 Speaker 1: it was mostly geography, that if when he had pitched 550 00:39:32,835 --> 00:39:35,035 Speaker 1: briefly in the International League, he ever faced the team 551 00:39:35,075 --> 00:39:37,755 Speaker 1: in Patucket, Rhode Island, that that was kind of where 552 00:39:37,995 --> 00:39:42,715 Speaker 1: ESPN was, only it was more remote, much smaller town. Oh, 553 00:39:42,795 --> 00:39:47,555 Speaker 1: el Duque said, like Cuba, but with snow, And I said, yeah, 554 00:39:47,595 --> 00:39:50,475 Speaker 1: that was it exactly. And now I was living in 555 00:39:50,475 --> 00:39:53,075 Speaker 1: Los Angeles and I owned a big house on the beach. Okay, 556 00:39:53,115 --> 00:39:55,075 Speaker 1: I get it. Listen, you see me in the park, 557 00:39:55,115 --> 00:39:57,955 Speaker 1: you say Hi, there's nobody around, we talk, Okay, if 558 00:39:58,035 --> 00:39:59,955 Speaker 1: I say nothing, don't be offended. I'm just making sure 559 00:39:59,995 --> 00:40:07,235 Speaker 1: everybody still knows I don't speak English. Orlando Hernandez did 560 00:40:07,235 --> 00:40:08,995 Speaker 1: not get here till he was thirty two years old. 561 00:40:09,035 --> 00:40:10,715 Speaker 1: He pitched until he was forty one. If he got 562 00:40:10,755 --> 00:40:12,115 Speaker 1: in here when he was twenty two, he'd be in 563 00:40:12,115 --> 00:40:13,515 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame, and then he would have been 564 00:40:13,515 --> 00:40:15,715 Speaker 1: the color man on the Game of the Week. He 565 00:40:15,835 --> 00:40:17,795 Speaker 1: pitched three years for the Yankees and two for the 566 00:40:17,795 --> 00:40:20,475 Speaker 1: Mets while I lived in New York, and it was 567 00:40:20,515 --> 00:40:23,875 Speaker 1: always a pleasure to see him. Kase you're still collecting baseballs, 568 00:40:23,915 --> 00:40:25,955 Speaker 1: you want this one. I walked by Ray Bonds with 569 00:40:25,995 --> 00:40:29,635 Speaker 1: this one. So that was Game three on the Saturday. 570 00:40:30,155 --> 00:40:33,115 Speaker 1: On the Sunday, I awoke to see my picture in 571 00:40:33,195 --> 00:40:37,395 Speaker 1: the Boston Globe. In those days, the newspapers all used 572 00:40:37,395 --> 00:40:41,075 Speaker 1: to have columnists who wrote about nothing but TV and 573 00:40:41,235 --> 00:40:45,995 Speaker 1: radio sports casts. No, seriously, I had been a sportscaster 574 00:40:46,155 --> 00:40:49,035 Speaker 1: on local TV in Boston fifteen years earlier, in nineteen 575 00:40:49,075 --> 00:40:51,635 Speaker 1: eighty four. Then I'd been to Fenway Park as long 576 00:40:51,675 --> 00:40:54,355 Speaker 1: before as nineteen sixty six, and yet I had grown 577 00:40:54,435 --> 00:40:57,195 Speaker 1: up a Yankee fan in New York. I explained that 578 00:40:57,275 --> 00:41:01,195 Speaker 1: even then I was also a fan of the long 579 00:41:01,315 --> 00:41:06,035 Speaker 1: suffering Red Sox fans. Now it was too complicated for 580 00:41:06,075 --> 00:41:09,235 Speaker 1: some people at the Boston Globe, which quoted me correctly 581 00:41:09,275 --> 00:41:11,835 Speaker 1: as saying I always felt an affinity with the fans, 582 00:41:11,875 --> 00:41:14,395 Speaker 1: But then under my picture in the article used the 583 00:41:14,435 --> 00:41:19,995 Speaker 1: caption Ulberman, Red Sox fan. Still wondering how they got 584 00:41:19,995 --> 00:41:22,755 Speaker 1: that wrong, I did my pregame TV stuff for Fox, 585 00:41:22,795 --> 00:41:25,315 Speaker 1: then climbed over the little chicken wire fence back into 586 00:41:25,355 --> 00:41:28,275 Speaker 1: my spot for our in game dugout reporting, And as 587 00:41:28,315 --> 00:41:30,315 Speaker 1: the top of the first inning began of the fourth game, 588 00:41:30,355 --> 00:41:32,995 Speaker 1: the Yankees leadoff man Chuck Knoblock moved towards the plate, 589 00:41:32,995 --> 00:41:35,675 Speaker 1: and as he did, it was the cleanup hitter Bernie 590 00:41:35,755 --> 00:41:39,995 Speaker 1: Williams walking towards me, presumably to use that little urinal 591 00:41:39,995 --> 00:41:45,475 Speaker 1: in a closet. Wrong again. It's meet Keith Weekend. Hey Keith, 592 00:41:45,755 --> 00:41:48,515 Speaker 1: he said in his lyrical voice, extending a hand to 593 00:41:48,555 --> 00:41:52,515 Speaker 1: shake Bernie Williams like I didn't know who it was. Say, listen, 594 00:41:52,555 --> 00:41:55,035 Speaker 1: I was reading the paper. Are you a Red Sox fan? 595 00:41:56,155 --> 00:41:58,515 Speaker 1: For a moment, I put aside the fact that the game, 596 00:41:58,635 --> 00:42:01,875 Speaker 1: the playoff game, had now started, and the guy up 597 00:42:01,955 --> 00:42:04,355 Speaker 1: three batters from now was asking me about a typo 598 00:42:04,435 --> 00:42:08,275 Speaker 1: in the Boston Globe. Bernie Williams was never accused of 599 00:42:08,315 --> 00:42:11,195 Speaker 1: burning himself out with too much competitive focus. That's just 600 00:42:11,235 --> 00:42:14,515 Speaker 1: who he was. I explained the mistake as quickly as 601 00:42:14,555 --> 00:42:17,875 Speaker 1: I could. Oh, I thought, so, okay, good. I'm glad 602 00:42:17,915 --> 00:42:19,995 Speaker 1: because you can be a fan of anybody you want. 603 00:42:19,995 --> 00:42:21,315 Speaker 1: But I don't think it would be right to have 604 00:42:21,355 --> 00:42:24,435 Speaker 1: a Red Sox fan in our dugout. I agreed with him. 605 00:42:24,955 --> 00:42:27,715 Speaker 1: Just as Chuck Knoblock singled, and the number two hitter, 606 00:42:27,795 --> 00:42:29,995 Speaker 1: Derek Jeter advanced to the plate, and the third hitter, 607 00:42:30,035 --> 00:42:33,155 Speaker 1: Paul O'Neill went out to the on neck circle. And 608 00:42:33,155 --> 00:42:37,555 Speaker 1: that's when Bernie Williams surprised me more than Orlando Hernandez had. Plus, 609 00:42:37,795 --> 00:42:40,755 Speaker 1: Bernie went on, doesn't your mom still have those seats 610 00:42:40,835 --> 00:42:44,635 Speaker 1: like ten rows back of our dugout at Yankee Stadium. 611 00:42:45,195 --> 00:42:48,475 Speaker 1: This was before my mother became famous for getting hit 612 00:42:48,515 --> 00:42:52,155 Speaker 1: by a very badly thrown ball. The next year, I 613 00:42:52,195 --> 00:42:54,475 Speaker 1: asked Bernie Williams how the hell he knew where my 614 00:42:54,595 --> 00:42:58,435 Speaker 1: mother sat. You've had seats there since the seventies, haven't you. 615 00:42:59,435 --> 00:43:03,115 Speaker 1: I just stared at him, Oh, Keith, it's my job 616 00:43:03,155 --> 00:43:07,115 Speaker 1: to know that. I said, no, it isn't. It's your 617 00:43:07,195 --> 00:43:10,395 Speaker 1: job to play center field for the Yankees. This was 618 00:43:10,515 --> 00:43:12,715 Speaker 1: just about the time Derek Jeter grounded out and Paul 619 00:43:12,755 --> 00:43:15,075 Speaker 1: O'Neill left the on deck circle, and Bernie Williams was 620 00:43:15,075 --> 00:43:17,515 Speaker 1: supposed to be in the on deck circle. I know 621 00:43:17,635 --> 00:43:20,875 Speaker 1: your mom, I see her, nice lady, So anyway, I 622 00:43:20,915 --> 00:43:25,035 Speaker 1: interrupted him. Bernie Jeter just grounded out, and now block 623 00:43:25,075 --> 00:43:27,755 Speaker 1: went to second and and O'Neill is up with one out. 624 00:43:28,075 --> 00:43:31,955 Speaker 1: Shouldn't you get out there? He looked back at the 625 00:43:31,955 --> 00:43:34,275 Speaker 1: field of play. Oh, yeah, you're right. He stuck out 626 00:43:34,315 --> 00:43:37,115 Speaker 1: his hand again. Nice visiting with you. Let's talk more later, 627 00:43:37,435 --> 00:43:40,235 Speaker 1: and just double checking you're not a Red Sox fan, right. 628 00:43:42,555 --> 00:43:46,675 Speaker 1: Bernie Williams got three hits in that game. Another New 629 00:43:46,755 --> 00:43:50,195 Speaker 1: York sports reporter once said that if he concentrated on baseball, 630 00:43:50,235 --> 00:43:52,955 Speaker 1: really concentrated, Bernie Williams would either be so good that 631 00:43:52,995 --> 00:43:55,115 Speaker 1: he would hit four hundred or he would be so 632 00:43:55,235 --> 00:43:58,835 Speaker 1: stressed out that he would become a serial killer. In 633 00:43:58,915 --> 00:44:01,355 Speaker 1: this game, the Yankee scored six runs in the ninth 634 00:44:01,355 --> 00:44:03,115 Speaker 1: and there was a place so controversial that when the 635 00:44:03,155 --> 00:44:05,355 Speaker 1: Red Sox manager got himself a jack did over it. 636 00:44:05,715 --> 00:44:10,075 Speaker 1: The home fans littered the field with debris. Almost all 637 00:44:10,115 --> 00:44:13,995 Speaker 1: of it was just plastic soda bottles, but still there 638 00:44:14,075 --> 00:44:18,075 Speaker 1: was a couple of flasks thrown too. Yankees manager Joe 639 00:44:18,115 --> 00:44:20,795 Speaker 1: Torre ordered his team off the field and play was 640 00:44:20,835 --> 00:44:24,195 Speaker 1: suspended as the plastic bottles continued to fly and via 641 00:44:24,275 --> 00:44:27,395 Speaker 1: my earpiece, which I listened to, even if Chris Matthews 642 00:44:27,395 --> 00:44:29,995 Speaker 1: never listened to his, my producer ordered me on to 643 00:44:30,155 --> 00:44:31,755 Speaker 1: the field, and I did as I was told, and 644 00:44:31,795 --> 00:44:33,475 Speaker 1: I set up in front of the camera, right in 645 00:44:33,475 --> 00:44:36,475 Speaker 1: front of the dugout full of Yankee players. A plastic 646 00:44:36,515 --> 00:44:39,675 Speaker 1: bottle whizzed past my head and I half wondered if 647 00:44:39,675 --> 00:44:41,795 Speaker 1: Bernie Williams had thrown it, just in case I was 648 00:44:41,835 --> 00:44:45,835 Speaker 1: a Red Sox fan. Almost immediately, a Fenway Park security 649 00:44:45,875 --> 00:44:48,915 Speaker 1: guy started swearing at me in Boston and told me 650 00:44:48,955 --> 00:44:50,675 Speaker 1: if I didn't get off the field and into the 651 00:44:50,715 --> 00:44:54,315 Speaker 1: seats immediately, he'd have me arrested. This time, I could 652 00:44:54,355 --> 00:44:57,555 Speaker 1: actually hear some of the Yankees laughing. Get over that 653 00:44:57,595 --> 00:44:59,835 Speaker 1: fence right now, sit your backside down in that seat, 654 00:44:59,835 --> 00:45:02,795 Speaker 1: and do not move. My producer heard all this through 655 00:45:02,795 --> 00:45:05,835 Speaker 1: my microphone and told me to comply. I didn't even 656 00:45:05,835 --> 00:45:07,995 Speaker 1: look around. I just went over the fence. I sat 657 00:45:08,035 --> 00:45:10,155 Speaker 1: down in the front row where I'd been ordered to, 658 00:45:10,195 --> 00:45:12,635 Speaker 1: and that's when the guy sitting next to me said hi, 659 00:45:13,475 --> 00:45:15,395 Speaker 1: and I realized the guy sitting next to me was 660 00:45:15,395 --> 00:45:20,155 Speaker 1: George Steinbrenner, the owner of the Yankees. I said, Hi, 661 00:45:20,755 --> 00:45:23,995 Speaker 1: you want to say something about this on TV? And George, 662 00:45:24,275 --> 00:45:28,075 Speaker 1: who loved me as I loved him, said sure, and 663 00:45:28,155 --> 00:45:30,875 Speaker 1: my producer heard all this through to the microphone as well. 664 00:45:31,715 --> 00:45:33,995 Speaker 1: The announcers immediately threw it to me, and I said 665 00:45:34,075 --> 00:45:38,235 Speaker 1: seven words, George Steinbrenner, your thoughts on all this. He 666 00:45:38,315 --> 00:45:40,955 Speaker 1: proceeded to very pleasantly blame the Red Sox fans for 667 00:45:41,035 --> 00:45:44,275 Speaker 1: being drunk, blame Fenway security for letting a riot start, 668 00:45:44,435 --> 00:45:47,155 Speaker 1: blame baseball officials for not immediately forfeiting the game to 669 00:45:47,195 --> 00:45:50,875 Speaker 1: his club, and blame the Boston manager for inciting the crowd. 670 00:45:51,755 --> 00:45:54,075 Speaker 1: I had said to George, I would ask a follow up, 671 00:45:54,075 --> 00:45:56,955 Speaker 1: but you seem to have covered everything, and so I 672 00:45:57,075 --> 00:46:00,595 Speaker 1: threw it back to the play by playbooth. Steinbrenner's remarks 673 00:46:00,595 --> 00:46:03,475 Speaker 1: made every newspaper in the country, and in many accounts, 674 00:46:03,555 --> 00:46:06,115 Speaker 1: I was noted as the inner, and frankly, I didn't 675 00:46:06,115 --> 00:46:10,555 Speaker 1: really do anything. The next night, the Yankees won the 676 00:46:10,595 --> 00:46:12,835 Speaker 1: series in five games, and the fifth game was devoid 677 00:46:12,835 --> 00:46:15,715 Speaker 1: of Cuban pitchers confiding they were fans, or Bernie Williams 678 00:46:15,795 --> 00:46:19,075 Speaker 1: quizzing me about my fan dumb, or me being ordered 679 00:46:19,115 --> 00:46:21,315 Speaker 1: onto the field during a riot, only to be thrown 680 00:46:21,395 --> 00:46:23,195 Speaker 1: off of it and directly into the seat next to 681 00:46:23,235 --> 00:46:26,595 Speaker 1: the owner of the Yankees. All I had to do 682 00:46:26,635 --> 00:46:28,795 Speaker 1: on this night was get into the Yankee clubhouse two 683 00:46:28,835 --> 00:46:31,275 Speaker 1: innings before the game ended, so I could cover the 684 00:46:31,315 --> 00:46:36,275 Speaker 1: celebrating players and the award presentation. The excitement of the 685 00:46:36,275 --> 00:46:39,155 Speaker 1: weekend clearly was over. I would just say hi to 686 00:46:39,195 --> 00:46:41,955 Speaker 1: these guys. They'd throw champagne in my direction, and then 687 00:46:41,995 --> 00:46:44,955 Speaker 1: I'd throw it back to Joe Buck. I was on 688 00:46:45,035 --> 00:46:48,195 Speaker 1: a platform bleached in a camera light as the technicians 689 00:46:48,275 --> 00:46:50,795 Speaker 1: checked their stuff. The game was still going on when 690 00:46:50,795 --> 00:46:54,355 Speaker 1: the clubhouse door slammed open and in strutted the Yankee 691 00:46:54,395 --> 00:47:01,355 Speaker 1: second basement Chuck Knobloch. He was swearing profusely, profoundly and proficiently. 692 00:47:01,955 --> 00:47:05,155 Speaker 1: He had been having trouble throwing ground balls away, and 693 00:47:05,195 --> 00:47:07,635 Speaker 1: as the eighth inning started, the Yankee manager Tory had 694 00:47:07,675 --> 00:47:10,875 Speaker 1: removed him, denying him a chance to be in the 695 00:47:10,915 --> 00:47:15,195 Speaker 1: on field celebration of the pennant Nblock was enraged, so 696 00:47:15,435 --> 00:47:18,555 Speaker 1: enraged that he never saw me, or the platform or 697 00:47:18,595 --> 00:47:23,835 Speaker 1: the camera lights. He used all the known expletives and 698 00:47:23,955 --> 00:47:28,715 Speaker 1: directed all of them all at his own manager. The 699 00:47:28,795 --> 00:47:31,835 Speaker 1: Yankees PR guy, a childhood friend of mine, rushed over 700 00:47:31,875 --> 00:47:33,635 Speaker 1: to insist that I could not report what I had 701 00:47:33,715 --> 00:47:36,035 Speaker 1: just heard. He was a little shocked when I agreed 702 00:47:36,075 --> 00:47:40,275 Speaker 1: with him. I'm here as a lighting prop. I told him. Now, 703 00:47:40,275 --> 00:47:42,195 Speaker 1: Block has a perfect right to expect there'd be no 704 00:47:42,275 --> 00:47:45,315 Speaker 1: reporters in the clubhouse during the game. If he says 705 00:47:45,315 --> 00:47:48,115 Speaker 1: it again afterwards, I'll say I heard it just now. 706 00:47:48,955 --> 00:47:52,795 Speaker 1: Otherwise I'm not saying anything. There is a course, a 707 00:47:52,835 --> 00:47:57,675 Speaker 1: punchline even to this and this extraordinary weekend. The next summer, 708 00:47:58,555 --> 00:48:01,595 Speaker 1: Chuck Knobloch's career as a second baseman ended because he 709 00:48:01,715 --> 00:48:05,035 Speaker 1: completely lost the ability to throw an ordinary, uncomp lollicated 710 00:48:05,075 --> 00:48:08,435 Speaker 1: baseball to first base. Since similar cases of the yips 711 00:48:08,715 --> 00:48:12,115 Speaker 1: seemed to afflict players whose baseball centric fathers had gotten 712 00:48:12,155 --> 00:48:15,875 Speaker 1: sick or jailed or something, and Knoblock's dad had just 713 00:48:16,035 --> 00:48:18,755 Speaker 1: entered the final stages of Alzheimer's. It was probably that 714 00:48:19,875 --> 00:48:24,155 Speaker 1: the last disastrous throw he made the next year, on 715 00:48:24,315 --> 00:48:28,155 Speaker 1: June seventeenth, two thousand, bounced off the Yankee dugout and 716 00:48:28,195 --> 00:48:30,795 Speaker 1: spun weirdly and hit a woman in the box seats. 717 00:48:31,315 --> 00:48:35,955 Speaker 1: The woman was my mother, the one where Bernie Williams 718 00:48:36,195 --> 00:48:39,995 Speaker 1: knew where she sat, all the things that followed. Since 719 00:48:40,035 --> 00:48:42,075 Speaker 1: I was in the studio that day doing the highlights 720 00:48:42,075 --> 00:48:44,235 Speaker 1: for the Fox Game of the Week, they require their 721 00:48:44,275 --> 00:48:47,035 Speaker 1: own segment of this. But the one thing that has 722 00:48:47,195 --> 00:48:50,795 Speaker 1: always mystified me was how Chuck Nabloch did not know 723 00:48:51,555 --> 00:48:54,755 Speaker 1: not to throw the ball where he did, because at 724 00:48:54,755 --> 00:48:58,675 Speaker 1: some point Bernie Williams must have warned him, Hey, hey, Chuck, 725 00:48:59,115 --> 00:49:02,555 Speaker 1: don't do it there. That's where Keith Olberman's mother sits. 726 00:49:16,155 --> 00:49:17,875 Speaker 1: I've done all the damage I can do here. Thank 727 00:49:17,915 --> 00:49:22,515 Speaker 1: you for listening this close to a riot. My god, 728 00:49:22,555 --> 00:49:24,675 Speaker 1: I don't know what would have happened. They were all 729 00:49:25,275 --> 00:49:29,195 Speaker 1: totally drunk and the Yankee players were ready to go. 730 00:49:30,555 --> 00:49:33,435 Speaker 1: Most of our Countdown music was arranged, produced and performed 731 00:49:33,475 --> 00:49:36,395 Speaker 1: by John Phillip Chanelle and Brian Ray. Our musical directors 732 00:49:36,435 --> 00:49:40,555 Speaker 1: have Countdown and produced by Tko Brothers. Mister Chanelle handled 733 00:49:40,635 --> 00:49:44,315 Speaker 1: orchestration and keyboards. Mister Ray was on guitars, bass and drums. 734 00:49:45,035 --> 00:49:47,595 Speaker 1: Our satirical and pithy musical comments are by the best 735 00:49:47,595 --> 00:49:51,515 Speaker 1: baseball stadium organist ever, Nancy Faust. The Olderman theme from 736 00:49:51,755 --> 00:49:56,235 Speaker 1: ESPN two, written by Mitch Warren Davis Piers courtesy of ESPN, Inc. 737 00:49:56,555 --> 00:49:59,875 Speaker 1: It's the sports music. Other music arranged and performed by 738 00:49:59,875 --> 00:50:02,995 Speaker 1: the group No Hornes allowed. My announcer today was my friend. 739 00:50:03,315 --> 00:50:05,155 Speaker 1: Since I was talking about Fenway, I thought he was 740 00:50:05,195 --> 00:50:09,595 Speaker 1: the right choice, Dennis Leary. Everything else was, as always 741 00:50:10,515 --> 00:50:14,475 Speaker 1: my fault. That's countdown for today, Day two hundred and 742 00:50:14,555 --> 00:50:19,955 Speaker 1: eighty eight of America held hostage again, but just seventy 743 00:50:19,995 --> 00:50:22,915 Speaker 1: five days until the scheduled end of his lame duck 744 00:50:22,955 --> 00:50:27,595 Speaker 1: and lame brained term unless he is removed sooner by 745 00:50:27,715 --> 00:50:32,355 Speaker 1: MAGA and Epstein, or that patch of pavement on his hand, 746 00:50:32,755 --> 00:50:35,995 Speaker 1: or a stuck escalator or some tile and all, or 747 00:50:35,995 --> 00:50:39,955 Speaker 1: his jet made out of poop, or or the Alzheimer's 748 00:50:40,035 --> 00:50:45,315 Speaker 1: test six months from now. The next scheduled countdown will 749 00:50:45,355 --> 00:50:49,235 Speaker 1: be Thursday till then. I'm Keith Olberman. Good morning, Good afternoon, 750 00:50:49,275 --> 00:51:11,315 Speaker 1: good Night, and good Luck. 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