WEBVTT - Betsy Randle Meets World

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<v Speaker 1>So you guys, I've discovered a podcast. Is it okay

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about another podcast on our podcast? Okay? I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean yeah, there's this amazing podcast that I've become

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<v Speaker 1>obsessed with, and it makes a perfect companion piece to

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<v Speaker 1>our podcast. It's called Sixties Songs That Explained the Nineties Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>And it's this this great music journalist named Rob Harvilla,

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<v Speaker 1>and he basically every episode he picks one song from

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<v Speaker 1>the nineties. I mean it's everything you like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>top hits from and not only like goes into the

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the song and the meaning and why it

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<v Speaker 1>was written, but also the whole history of the band. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>so you know, it becomes an opportunity like for instance,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I knew the song Hey Jealousy by Jin Blossoms.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, every great song. I had no idea anything

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<v Speaker 1>about why that was written or the tragedy of the band.

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<v Speaker 1>It was the guitarist. Was that the guitarist that wrote it,

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<v Speaker 1>and the guy who wrote that and their other two

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<v Speaker 1>hits killed himself. Yes, yes, I mean, I mean, unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 1>like a lot of things in the music, like the

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<v Speaker 1>music industry, especially in the nineties, there's a lot of drugs,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of depression, a lot of but anyway, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>for anybody who grew up in the nineties or who

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<v Speaker 1>was listening to music, and especially because you know we've

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<v Speaker 1>talked about before or like in relation to our show,

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<v Speaker 1>it was still like a monoculture, right, So everybody was

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<v Speaker 1>listening to the same songs, everybody was talking about the

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<v Speaker 1>same songs, and so it's really interesting to dive into

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<v Speaker 1>these um the backstories. And he's just a very funny,

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<v Speaker 1>witty writer. He usually has guests on and they just

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<v Speaker 1>break out, Like I didn't know anything of Oasis, for instance.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like one of those things I just completely missed,

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<v Speaker 1>you like I know the story of the brothers and

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<v Speaker 1>the history, like I just I knew some of the songs,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, So like I went and listened to the

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<v Speaker 1>Wonder Wall episode and it just blew my mind, like

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<v Speaker 1>the crying the back story. There's a great documentary about

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<v Speaker 1>Oasis that's out right now, that's like two hours long.

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<v Speaker 1>It's pretty phenomenal about their rise to fame and then

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<v Speaker 1>how they broke up. And it was like the brothers

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<v Speaker 1>don't speak anymore. It was over like clothes. It was

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<v Speaker 1>Jensen and I were just talking about songs that you

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<v Speaker 1>don't really know the meaning of, and then you go

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<v Speaker 1>back and re listen to them and you're like, whoa,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what that was about. Like remember the song closing time?

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<v Speaker 1>Of course? Of course? Every okay, right, and that's what

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<v Speaker 1>you think it's about, right, It's actually about watching the

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<v Speaker 1>birth of his child. Okay, the baby is out. You

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<v Speaker 1>can't you don't you you can't stay here, you have

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<v Speaker 1>to go home. And there's actually no no, you really

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<v Speaker 1>listen to it. There is a lyric, but it's amazing

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<v Speaker 1>calculated also because like I love that, Like every couple

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<v Speaker 1>of years there's just a song about like drinking or bars,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's like so smart. I'm writing Christmas songs because

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<v Speaker 1>it's like it's always going to have a place, like

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<v Speaker 1>exactly five years where you couldn't go to a bar

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<v Speaker 1>until at two am. They would just play close and

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<v Speaker 1>be like shots. Remember the song shots? Shots? Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go on record and say that is in

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<v Speaker 1>my top ten favorite songs of all time. It is amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>How dare you? How dare you say it is? The song?

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<v Speaker 1>It is? It is incredible. I absolutely love it. But

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<v Speaker 1>it used to be. It was a song that I

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<v Speaker 1>ran to and that so if you just think about

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<v Speaker 1>it as being like, you know, it's the right beats

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<v Speaker 1>per minute to like get you going while you're running.

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<v Speaker 1>That's one of the reasons I'm exactly that right, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>except for those of us who are younger than sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>exactly that's my seventies running song. I have the Tiger.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Danielle, if you want to, if you want

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<v Speaker 1>to do an episode that is like you're talking about,

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<v Speaker 1>daniel where you discover what it's really about and so

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<v Speaker 1>disturbing is crash into me but just like a beautiful

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<v Speaker 1>song help but just like and like you know, I

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<v Speaker 1>was just the right age sixteen or whatever. But you

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<v Speaker 1>listened to the six the sixties songs that explained the

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<v Speaker 1>nineties episodes and they like they don't have to go

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<v Speaker 1>very deep. You just actually listen to what he has

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<v Speaker 1>saying it. It's so sexual, but it's a beautiful song.

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<v Speaker 1>You kind of care, Now do you think this guy

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<v Speaker 1>on his podcast is sitting there going? So I found

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<v Speaker 1>the greatest podcast in the world that is a perfect

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<v Speaker 1>companion's called also Hit Me Baby One More Time. Apparently

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<v Speaker 1>was a double entendre that also had sexual undertones. I

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<v Speaker 1>was gonna wear look at my shirt. Yeah, shirt I'm wearing.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm wearing my Too Much Shirts writer. I have your shirts.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a shirt for Indie. It's an extra small

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<v Speaker 1>I hope it fits him. It maybe very stylishly oversized.

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<v Speaker 1>Well perfect, I have all of your shirts. Yes, of

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<v Speaker 1>course you're you're you're a beast growing up. I was

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<v Speaker 1>just called husky, so that will work. Yes, and the

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<v Speaker 1>husky size. Um, yeah, I'm really excited about it. So

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<v Speaker 1>I love my Too Much Shirts shirt. It's the only

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<v Speaker 1>one I've worn. I'm wearing it today. I also got

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<v Speaker 1>the hold the Plane for Maka shirt, but I haven't

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<v Speaker 1>worn it yet. But all of you can get your

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<v Speaker 1>shirts as well at pod Meats World show um dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>So please go check out the march just very quickly, Danielle.

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<v Speaker 1>I was in Boston at Comic Con this weekend and

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<v Speaker 1>there was a plethora of Pod Meats World shirts. They

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<v Speaker 1>were everywhere. It was awesome. It was so cool to

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<v Speaker 1>see people out rocking their Pod Meats World shirts. It

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<v Speaker 1>was great. It was really really cool. I haven't seen

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<v Speaker 1>one of the wild yet. Oh yeah, I know they're

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<v Speaker 1>out there, that's and I asked, just for the record,

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<v Speaker 1>I asked everybody that I met, and there was a

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<v Speaker 1>number of people, I mean tons of people came up

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<v Speaker 1>and said they were listening to the podcast. I said,

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<v Speaker 1>are we ruining your childhood? For you? And every single one,

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<v Speaker 1>so you know, I had to. I had to. It's like,

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<v Speaker 1>are we doing anything that's ruining your experience? And they're like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>it's awesome. We love the inside stuff. Keep it up

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<v Speaker 1>because this is totally cool. It's enhancing the show. I

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<v Speaker 1>was like, okay, good, I feel good about that. Okay

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<v Speaker 1>good if that makes us feel good. I also wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to give you, guys, just you know, we get thousands

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<v Speaker 1>of emails and some of them, most of them are

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<v Speaker 1>really incredible, and we love reading them. Unfortunately, because we

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<v Speaker 1>get so many of them, it would be impossible for

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<v Speaker 1>us to write you all back or acknowledge you. But

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<v Speaker 1>it doesn't mean that we're not reading them, and it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't mean that they're not special. So I did just

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<v Speaker 1>want to give a couple of little shout outs to people,

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<v Speaker 1>like a shout out to Deanna C who used Boy

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<v Speaker 1>Meets World as a way to get through her hard childhood,

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<v Speaker 1>and she saw the show as an escape. I want

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<v Speaker 1>to give a shout out to Becky Oh, who is

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<v Speaker 1>a high school teacher who starts her classes every year

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<v Speaker 1>with the episode Teachers Bet Isn't that Yeah? She says

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<v Speaker 1>it gets some cringes, but starts some really good conversations too,

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<v Speaker 1>And she said this year the pod cast recap actually

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<v Speaker 1>really lines up with her back to school time, so

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<v Speaker 1>it was perfect. So now they get to listen to

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<v Speaker 1>both uh and then I thought this story was so amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Shout out to Katie H who herself actually works on

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<v Speaker 1>Righteous Gemstones and she zooms with her childhood best friend

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<v Speaker 1>every single week. They originally met in study hall and

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<v Speaker 1>boy meets World in was the thing that bonded them

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<v Speaker 1>and made them friends. And now so they used to

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<v Speaker 1>watch the episode together every week and then talk about it.

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<v Speaker 1>And now thirty years later, they zoom every week to

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<v Speaker 1>talk about this podcast. Yes, that's awesome, our podcast, about

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<v Speaker 1>our podcast and their friendship and how how we are

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<v Speaker 1>just keeping them friends. What if they have nothing else

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<v Speaker 1>in common, what if it's just us, that's it, that's

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<v Speaker 1>all they've got. Oh, man, that's so funny that isn't

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<v Speaker 1>it funny? So uh, Welcome to pod Meets World. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Daniel Fishel, I'm Strong, and I'm Wilfredell and we are

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<v Speaker 1>edging closer to our first ever live show as Pod

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<v Speaker 1>Meats World goes on the road to San Diego at

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<v Speaker 1>the Magnolia on October How many layers of shirts do

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<v Speaker 1>you to plan on wearing? Um, not not counting vests

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<v Speaker 1>or hood So I'm gonna I'm gonna haim for fours.

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<v Speaker 1>That's impressive. I'm gonna try to outdo you and go

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<v Speaker 1>for five. Then, oh man, I'm going to be outnumbered. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to record a part of the podcast, talk

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<v Speaker 1>about specific episodes with audience members, perform a scene with

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<v Speaker 1>one lucky listener, and we will have a special guest

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<v Speaker 1>plays with squirrels. Yes he will actually be there, but

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<v Speaker 1>this time I was talking about someone else and v

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<v Speaker 1>I P packages will get you a meet and greet

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<v Speaker 1>and a photo and autographs. Tickets are available now at

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<v Speaker 1>in San Diego, cohone on October two. Don't miss out.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be yes. I'm bringing this phrase back the

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<v Speaker 1>cat's pajamas. I am so excited. We are all so

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<v Speaker 1>excited about today's guest. Uh. She is America's mom. She

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<v Speaker 1>is one of the most incredible women actors. She's a

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<v Speaker 1>mom in her own right, She's a wife. She is

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely wonderful and so please welcome to the podcast. Betsy Randall,

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<v Speaker 1>Betsy my TV mom. Hi you are How are you

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<v Speaker 1>even more gorgeous than the last time I saw you? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I worked on it this morning. I've lost and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>getting getting my A D S hair back, my home

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<v Speaker 1>improvement hair. Oh man, I can't wait to talk to

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<v Speaker 1>you about your home improvement hair. Yeah. Well it's a

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<v Speaker 1>big and you know got me this job. Okay, so

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking around. Okay, Yes, we're great. Well look beautiful

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<v Speaker 1>to me. Oh I missed your face gon cry already?

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<v Speaker 1>Oh man? Okay. So to give everyone a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a I mean, not that she needs really any introduction,

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<v Speaker 1>but she played Amy Matthews, the matriarch of the house

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<v Speaker 1>for a hundred and fifty eight episodes of Boy Meets World,

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<v Speaker 1>the wife of Alan, the mother of Corey, Eric Morgan,

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<v Speaker 1>and eventually Yea on the milk Bottle Never Up we did. Wait,

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<v Speaker 1>tell that story, Please tell that story. Okay, I'll interrupt you. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>the funny thing is is that I'm friends with with

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<v Speaker 1>the what's her name now, the original Really really you're

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<v Speaker 1>very close. He's not that close, but I've seen her

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<v Speaker 1>in place. She's a magnificent actress. Yes she is. So

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<v Speaker 1>the crafts, not the craft services, but the tech guys

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<v Speaker 1>that you know, you know, just provided us with a

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<v Speaker 1>milk cotton with a picture of Lily on there and saying,

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<v Speaker 1>if you seeing this child, actually shoot with that milk

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<v Speaker 1>carton on the thing? You know they did, It's just

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't zero in on it, a little scared to

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<v Speaker 1>do that. They probably took a shot of it and went,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, I'm so curious if anybody can see it,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my gosh, I'm dying. Second or season second or

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<v Speaker 1>third season? Right? Well? When, yeah, she was, because then

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<v Speaker 1>Lindsay comes in after what like half the season was

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<v Speaker 1>in a fourth season after she hadn't come in until

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<v Speaker 1>like fourth season. Really, is that we went that long

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<v Speaker 1>with a couple of years? Yeah, yeah, a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought it was just one season. I thought so too.

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<v Speaker 1>There that she was there for wee, No, no that she.

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<v Speaker 1>I think she was there for two seasons, and then

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<v Speaker 1>I think she was gone after the first season, really,

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<v Speaker 1>and then I thought he took a season off, and

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<v Speaker 1>then at least one I think it was fourth. I'm sure.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure there are somebody exactly somebody will pop up Easton, Easton,

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<v Speaker 1>actually probably those at all details. I have a grandchild

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<v Speaker 1>who's three turning to four, and I can just picture

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<v Speaker 1>her at that age, at four, four to five, going

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<v Speaker 1>I don't feel like doing this. Yeah, I don't want

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<v Speaker 1>to do this. No, I'm not going to do this,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and you go, yeah, yeah, try explaining contracts

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<v Speaker 1>and work to you know, a four or five year

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<v Speaker 1>old like m h. God bless Chris Kire, God bless

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Kier that first couple of a couple of seasons.

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<v Speaker 1>First Chris Kaire, who is an upcoming guest of Pod

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<v Speaker 1>Meets World. We're very yes, we're gonna have Chris Cairo on.

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<v Speaker 1>We're so excited to talk to him. So, Betsy, you

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<v Speaker 1>were on Home Improvement before you ended up on Boy

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<v Speaker 1>Meets World. Can you tell us about how you were

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<v Speaker 1>cast as Amy Matthews and whether or not Home Improvement

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<v Speaker 1>and your role. There had had a hand in it.

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<v Speaker 1>It had everything to do with it. Um. Remember I

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<v Speaker 1>did have big hair. It was this really great big hair.

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<v Speaker 1>And the first episode I did what I had auditioned

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<v Speaker 1>to play Tim's wife. Okay, I'm home and proves they're

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<v Speaker 1>down to three of us. Francis Fisher got cast first,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the Francis Fisher to the actress who was

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<v Speaker 1>married to what was his name, the big director actor. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And then she was fired because she didn't know how

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<v Speaker 1>to be funny as a stint as a backup, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>she didn't know how to be the straight man. So

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<v Speaker 1>and that wasn't working with Tim because he was a

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<v Speaker 1>stand up comedian and so on, so that didn't work.

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<v Speaker 1>But there were three of us up forward, they they

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<v Speaker 1>called me back with the last three. So then when

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<v Speaker 1>it came time when they finally cast Pat Richardson, who

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<v Speaker 1>was more of this dry delivery and I was much

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<v Speaker 1>more married Tyler Moorish, you know kind of thing compared comparatively,

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<v Speaker 1>and so she uh so, So anyway, they just said

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<v Speaker 1>they brought Deb Barilsky, who was not one of my

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<v Speaker 1>best friends who caught me this job. Um said, what

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<v Speaker 1>about Betsy for this best friend Pat, who's a feminist

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<v Speaker 1>friend who will make fun of Tim for his tools,

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<v Speaker 1>and I seem to nail that no pun intended, No

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<v Speaker 1>pun intended. Oh that's right. I didn't even generally no

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<v Speaker 1>pun into not that clever, but anyway, sure, so I

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<v Speaker 1>got that part, and it was just such a fantastic episode,

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<v Speaker 1>one of the funniest ones where Tim, you know, nails

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<v Speaker 1>glues a piece of wood to his head and and

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<v Speaker 1>it's just one of the funniest episodes that won all

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<v Speaker 1>these awards, is the ABC Funniest Episode of the Year

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<v Speaker 1>or something. So I happen to be featured in that,

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<v Speaker 1>so that didn't hurt. And then you know, I stayed

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<v Speaker 1>on and they liked me a lot. Um John Um

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<v Speaker 1>past Flinn was directing at the time. Disney's watching me,

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<v Speaker 1>They're already And so then they called me in after

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<v Speaker 1>two years at at Home Improvement and said, what do

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<v Speaker 1>you think you want to go for this part? They

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<v Speaker 1>want to see you, and I went, really, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know if I want to leave Home Improvement. I really

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<v Speaker 1>like it here. You know, I didn't know, and I

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<v Speaker 1>kind of knew in my bones this was gonna be tricky.

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<v Speaker 1>For me because I had I wasn't going to be featured,

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<v Speaker 1>you know that the mom wasn't going to be featured,

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<v Speaker 1>and there wasn't. It wasn't like Tim and Pat, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't gonna be just the kids and mom, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>or the husband and mom. So it became a mom thing.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, I competed with about a thousand people. I

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<v Speaker 1>was told to get you know, at least um to

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<v Speaker 1>get this, and I kept I went in three times.

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<v Speaker 1>They weren't sure, and I was like, well, this really

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<v Speaker 1>builds my confidence. But it was just one of these

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<v Speaker 1>things where they just wanted me from the beginning. They

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<v Speaker 1>somehow fell in love with me from Home Improvement and

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<v Speaker 1>they just went, no, there's nobody better than her, so

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<v Speaker 1>will go with that. And that's true, although I really,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, struggled to get my mind's memorize and stuff

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<v Speaker 1>like that. But do you remember do you remember what

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<v Speaker 1>the audition scene was? Was it a scene with you

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<v Speaker 1>and Corey or was it a scene with you? And

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<v Speaker 1>it was it was you and Corey. It it was

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<v Speaker 1>a scene with me and Corey and I was sitting

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<v Speaker 1>on the bed trying to comfort him about something. What

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<v Speaker 1>was I doing and giving him advice about something. Sitting

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<v Speaker 1>on the bed and we're in baggy clothes that were

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<v Speaker 1>all my own clothes. They trussed me like a camper

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<v Speaker 1>or something. I don't know year and finally they went

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<v Speaker 1>west with her wardrobe and you know, things like that.

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<v Speaker 1>But they finally snaresed me up a bit. But did

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<v Speaker 1>you read with Ben when you screamed like when you

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<v Speaker 1>screen tested, did you did you read with him? No? Wow?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you ever read with the original Alan? Matt McCoy? No,

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<v Speaker 1>Matt was cast out after me. The only people that

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<v Speaker 1>were cast for sure. It was me and Corey and writer.

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<v Speaker 1>We were for sures and then you came in, but

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<v Speaker 1>we changed Matt. We said goodbye to Matt. That was that.

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<v Speaker 1>But there wasn't a lot of you know, I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>know enough. When Rusty came in, it was like a

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<v Speaker 1>whole different experience, Like, I know this guy, he's cute,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, cute, he's kind of tough, you know, guys,

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<v Speaker 1>guy kind of thing, you know. I know. We talked

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<v Speaker 1>about the fact that like Amy and Allen were really

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<v Speaker 1>set up to be different parents, like you guys were

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<v Speaker 1>not the stereotypical do we be dorky, but of the

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<v Speaker 1>joke parents, you guys were cool, and you wore cool clothes,

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<v Speaker 1>and you had hip taste and music, and like you're

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<v Speaker 1>relationship with each other was very cool and relaxed. And

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<v Speaker 1>the way you guys parented was also a different style

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<v Speaker 1>of parenting than we saw on TV at the time.

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<v Speaker 1>And I wonder, like that is very much how we

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<v Speaker 1>see you and Rusty, So we wonder how much of

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<v Speaker 1>that was really based on them incorporating and writing the

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<v Speaker 1>characters after who you were as people, rather than, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>trying to fit somebody else into the mold. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you're absolutely right, that's exactly what happened. They I. I

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<v Speaker 1>just was my being myself. I can be funny, I

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<v Speaker 1>can be not funny, I can be said, I can

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<v Speaker 1>pack it personally, I can do all that. But I

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<v Speaker 1>was always myself. I didn't never feel like I was

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<v Speaker 1>playing someone else. And that's what they said, just for

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<v Speaker 1>your wonderful self. And I went, oh God, what's that that.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what that is. So it's easier to

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<v Speaker 1>be evil. I did a movie where I got to

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<v Speaker 1>be evil. It was Piece of Cake. The thing was

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<v Speaker 1>is that I just think that that's very much what

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<v Speaker 1>have and and Rusty and I had a wonderful chemistry

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<v Speaker 1>right away. You did, remember we were both studied with

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<v Speaker 1>the Sandy Meisner. We both had from the same background.

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<v Speaker 1>I we you know, I was still taking classes and

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<v Speaker 1>stuff while I was still getting started, and so he

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<v Speaker 1>was just sort of reassuring to me when we saw

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<v Speaker 1>what worked, we went, well, this is why we worked

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<v Speaker 1>because we worked off each other. And I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>why we worked with you guys, is because we gave you,

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<v Speaker 1>honestly how whatever you did or said. I'll speak for myself.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Rusty would call himself more aggressman. I just

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<v Speaker 1>take everything personally, took to a detriment, but you know

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<v Speaker 1>what it serves me on camera, I think. So one

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<v Speaker 1>of my favorite things that we're starting from from, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>early on, one of my favorite things was you um.

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<v Speaker 1>I just I love all these stories that pop into

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<v Speaker 1>your head when you talking to somebody. And we were

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<v Speaker 1>we were doing the little um and I've we've talked

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<v Speaker 1>about this on on the show before. We were doing

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<v Speaker 1>our opening title sequence, and it was kind of getting

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<v Speaker 1>little pops of everybody, Okay, will you go lie in

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<v Speaker 1>the bed. Now, hey, look up and smile like you're

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<v Speaker 1>doing this kind of stuff. And I was watching everyone's

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<v Speaker 1>watching as we were. You were doing yours, and you're

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<v Speaker 1>sitting there with Ben and put the band aid on

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<v Speaker 1>his head, and then you walk away and you do

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<v Speaker 1>a big smile, and then they yell cut and you

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<v Speaker 1>walk over me. You're like, that's my please watch our show.

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<v Speaker 1>Smile and I'll never forget that. You always stuck with me.

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<v Speaker 1>That's And then the first time we saw it together,

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<v Speaker 1>we were all somewhere we saw the opening town and

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<v Speaker 1>you went, yep, there it is my please watch our shows.

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<v Speaker 1>It is. It's shameless, but we all knew that work.

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<v Speaker 1>It worked, work, it was perfect. So was that also

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<v Speaker 1>your first that Like the guys have talked a lot

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<v Speaker 1>about that first photo shoot being their real first introduction

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<v Speaker 1>to everybody. Do you remember the first time you met

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<v Speaker 1>Will and Writer and what your impressions were of all

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<v Speaker 1>of us as kids, and then the first time you

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<v Speaker 1>met me, which was significantly later. Yeah, Well, first of all,

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<v Speaker 1>you were also young. I was just watching the episode

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<v Speaker 1>of the Santa thing, like, my god, we were also

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<v Speaker 1>my gosh, how the time flies? Um, Well, I met

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<v Speaker 1>Ben and writer. Were you coming? Were you at the table? Read? Yeah? Yeah, okay, No,

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<v Speaker 1>I got cast later there was another Eric that's oh,

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<v Speaker 1>that's right, that's Harry something very branch. I didn't bond

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<v Speaker 1>with him. Oh good good. I can't remember that, but

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<v Speaker 1>I do remember that I met Ben and writer and

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<v Speaker 1>then his family. So but anyway, that's when I met

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<v Speaker 1>you guys for the first time in this world, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>for the first time, and you know, it was sort

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<v Speaker 1>of amazing fact that kind of overshadowed everything else. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't read and remember reading the script. Didn't we read

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<v Speaker 1>the script? I'm sure we did because we all auditioned

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<v Speaker 1>for the same material, so I sort of had it down,

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<v Speaker 1>you know. Now. You you obviously would have worked with

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<v Speaker 1>the kids on home improvement, um, although I'm sure your

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<v Speaker 1>role wasn't necessarily heavily involved with the kids. So was

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<v Speaker 1>Boy Mets World your first time working with a bunch

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<v Speaker 1>of kids? And were you nervous? What? What? Did you

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<v Speaker 1>have any concerns going into it? No? None. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm a mom, I have kids, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's nothing scary to me about that, just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>but I had great respect for them. It's just that

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't involved in a lot of dialogue with the kids.

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<v Speaker 1>There was one where I was babysitting and I told

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<v Speaker 1>him the who won the game and I particularly killed

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<v Speaker 1>me kind of things like that, but never really you know,

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<v Speaker 1>hands out with the kids. So I wasn't nervous, no

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<v Speaker 1>coming into us. Yeah, I wasn't worried. I just you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I was really taking up one step at a time,

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of glad I got the job. I cin'

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<v Speaker 1>sure I was going to get it for the longest time.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, so wait, so how long when you

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<v Speaker 1>know the first time you heard it, boy meats, we're

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<v Speaker 1>all to the actual table read. How long was the

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<v Speaker 1>process before you you were reading the script. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like it was months or something. I mean, it really

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<v Speaker 1>took a while because they were auditioning everyone. And they

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<v Speaker 1>were also auditioning everyone some actors from Chicago. I knew

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<v Speaker 1>some big names actually to play Rusties parts, so you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they were really trying to put the right package together. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I was told that when we shot the pilot and

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<v Speaker 1>they do that, you know, I don't know what it's

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<v Speaker 1>called where they do uh. An estimation of who loves

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<v Speaker 1>the show the most like the focus, like a test

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<v Speaker 1>screening kind of thing. Yeah, test screening, and and I

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<v Speaker 1>scored rather high, Lulie, and I kind of scored it

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<v Speaker 1>better than that. That's amazing. Okay, I guess I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>keep this job. But then it just you know, became

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<v Speaker 1>I was just slipped in the background. Of course after that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, not not like the same thing. Well, that's

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<v Speaker 1>actually that leads me to my next question, because we

0:24:15.119 --> 0:24:17.199
<v Speaker 1>have talked about it a lot that in we are

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<v Speaker 1>watching today, we're watching episode one ten, so we're ten

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<v Speaker 1>episodes into the first season, and there have been many

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<v Speaker 1>very heavy Alan and Corey episodes, lots of deep stuff

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<v Speaker 1>for them to go into. And we've talked a lot

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<v Speaker 1>about the fact that it felt like there were some

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<v Speaker 1>missed opportunities where some of that could have gone to you,

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<v Speaker 1>where we could have learned more about you and your backstory.

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<v Speaker 1>And so do you remember feeling like you were getting

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<v Speaker 1>the short end of the stick as an actor and

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<v Speaker 1>did you ever talk to Michael about it or the

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<v Speaker 1>other writers about things you wanted to do or or

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<v Speaker 1>how you wanted your character to be involved more. I

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate you asking that, because yes, that was very hard

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<v Speaker 1>for me, really hard. And I'm the only girl of

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<v Speaker 1>three boys growing up, so I'm used to that, but

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<v Speaker 1>not to be um. But I did feel, to be

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<v Speaker 1>honest with you, Michael is a boy and the writers

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<v Speaker 1>were all boys at first, and they didn't know what

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<v Speaker 1>to do with Mom. Mom was not you know, just

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<v Speaker 1>Mom was sort of still in the background, serving them,

0:25:29.119 --> 0:25:35.960
<v Speaker 1>but not necessarily the driving force. Um. They eventually they

0:25:36.000 --> 0:25:39.320
<v Speaker 1>started giving me more episodes where it became a little

0:25:39.359 --> 0:25:41.320
<v Speaker 1>bit more likely, you know, like when you tried to

0:25:41.400 --> 0:25:45.040
<v Speaker 1>run away from home and we had you know, Juliet

0:25:45.080 --> 0:25:52.359
<v Speaker 1>there was terrified because my aunt she was so afraid

0:25:52.359 --> 0:25:54.680
<v Speaker 1>of the audience. And I'm going, this makes me look

0:25:54.800 --> 0:25:58.359
<v Speaker 1>really good anyway. I mean, I was like, get my

0:25:58.400 --> 0:26:00.880
<v Speaker 1>hair really good if she's going to be there. But

0:26:00.960 --> 0:26:04.560
<v Speaker 1>that's just a side story. But really it just at

0:26:04.640 --> 0:26:07.200
<v Speaker 1>first it was just really hard for me. I didn't

0:26:07.200 --> 0:26:10.120
<v Speaker 1>know what to do about it. And at one point

0:26:11.000 --> 0:26:13.840
<v Speaker 1>there was some of the humor, some of this stuff

0:26:13.880 --> 0:26:18.199
<v Speaker 1>just didn't I didn't get it sometimes, I you know,

0:26:18.240 --> 0:26:21.520
<v Speaker 1>I didn't that's not that's that funny. Oh just throw

0:26:21.520 --> 0:26:23.520
<v Speaker 1>it away, throw it away. So it just sort of

0:26:23.560 --> 0:26:28.720
<v Speaker 1>became ins and I went in and out of UM

0:26:28.880 --> 0:26:32.600
<v Speaker 1>being present in the way that I wanted to be.

0:26:32.680 --> 0:26:35.800
<v Speaker 1>At first, I was much more present, I had much

0:26:35.840 --> 0:26:38.080
<v Speaker 1>more of a voice, and I was acting, and you know,

0:26:38.160 --> 0:26:40.880
<v Speaker 1>there was much more between Rusty and me. Over the years,

0:26:40.880 --> 0:26:43.480
<v Speaker 1>as you guys got older, it was more fun to

0:26:43.520 --> 0:26:46.240
<v Speaker 1>have see you guys being your geeky selves out there

0:26:46.240 --> 0:26:50.200
<v Speaker 1>in the world, you know. So it was wonderful. I mean,

0:26:50.359 --> 0:26:53.919
<v Speaker 1>I had such good relationships with all of you that

0:26:54.040 --> 0:26:57.679
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't bothered by that. I just didn't think that

0:26:57.720 --> 0:27:00.760
<v Speaker 1>the guys knew what to do with me and UM,

0:27:00.800 --> 0:27:03.119
<v Speaker 1>and it was intimidating. So there were times when I,

0:27:03.359 --> 0:27:06.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, felt intimidated or quiet, and I did talk

0:27:06.640 --> 0:27:09.399
<v Speaker 1>to Michael at one point when I I think it

0:27:09.520 --> 0:27:13.480
<v Speaker 1>was UM like, I didn't really like it that we

0:27:13.600 --> 0:27:17.439
<v Speaker 1>ran into you at the hotel and I didn't. I

0:27:17.480 --> 0:27:20.720
<v Speaker 1>thought it was weird the PM episode, Yeah, yeah, And

0:27:21.119 --> 0:27:25.000
<v Speaker 1>I thought, Um, I wouldn't approve of you getting married.

0:27:25.000 --> 0:27:28.680
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I never I still I still don't. Yeah,

0:27:28.800 --> 0:27:31.560
<v Speaker 1>that's strong. People have strong opinions about that one, uh,

0:27:32.040 --> 0:27:34.920
<v Speaker 1>left and right. Yeah, And I just felt like they,

0:27:35.240 --> 0:27:40.800
<v Speaker 1>you know, trivialized my experience of it until I went, no,

0:27:41.240 --> 0:27:43.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, I've got a lot to say. And the

0:27:43.600 --> 0:27:46.399
<v Speaker 1>one that you repeat that is so funny when I

0:27:46.880 --> 0:27:52.000
<v Speaker 1>confront um Mr Feeney across the street and say I

0:27:52.040 --> 0:28:04.480
<v Speaker 1>don't approve you know, and that kind of thing. Well, yeah,

0:28:04.520 --> 0:28:05.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean I remember. One of the things we we've

0:28:05.960 --> 0:28:07.600
<v Speaker 1>addressed on this show a number of times is the

0:28:07.640 --> 0:28:10.920
<v Speaker 1>fact that, especially at the beginning, they didn't they were

0:28:11.000 --> 0:28:13.800
<v Speaker 1>they didn't know kind of the tone of the show

0:28:13.880 --> 0:28:17.640
<v Speaker 1>for everybody, so they were trying different pairs and at

0:28:17.640 --> 0:28:20.680
<v Speaker 1>the beginning, I mean, we see this in this episode

0:28:20.680 --> 0:28:22.680
<v Speaker 1>that we're going to talk about later, you know, are

0:28:22.680 --> 0:28:25.000
<v Speaker 1>are the one ten that we've been talking about. This

0:28:25.080 --> 0:28:27.040
<v Speaker 1>is where then it was kind of like Eric and

0:28:27.080 --> 0:28:30.000
<v Speaker 1>Amy got a little bit of screen time together, which

0:28:30.240 --> 0:28:31.920
<v Speaker 1>this was the first time I think that ever had

0:28:31.960 --> 0:28:37.600
<v Speaker 1>actually happened, and it was a great scene. But that

0:28:37.680 --> 0:28:41.600
<v Speaker 1>also led to as the show, you know, kind of progressed,

0:28:42.000 --> 0:28:44.560
<v Speaker 1>You and I had some fun storylines together, like you know,

0:28:44.600 --> 0:28:48.240
<v Speaker 1>when when Amy's coming to school with Eric, and and

0:28:48.320 --> 0:28:50.360
<v Speaker 1>so they kind of saw something there a little bit.

0:28:50.400 --> 0:28:52.880
<v Speaker 1>I think from this episode they saw a little kind

0:28:52.920 --> 0:28:55.520
<v Speaker 1>of like, oh, this is an interesting pair if you

0:28:55.600 --> 0:28:58.520
<v Speaker 1>did Eric and amy Um, and we had some fun

0:28:58.520 --> 0:29:00.800
<v Speaker 1>stuff as the show progressed, I thought we did. I

0:29:00.840 --> 0:29:04.320
<v Speaker 1>think so because you were older too, and because writer

0:29:04.640 --> 0:29:09.480
<v Speaker 1>and Corey had each other in a way, and then

0:29:10.040 --> 0:29:13.680
<v Speaker 1>Alan was always giving advice and tell anyone everyone what

0:29:13.920 --> 0:29:18.880
<v Speaker 1>to do. So I watched that scene yesterday and we're

0:29:19.000 --> 0:29:21.920
<v Speaker 1>standing at the door with Lily in the bathroom, and

0:29:22.000 --> 0:29:25.040
<v Speaker 1>I went, oh my god, we look alike. We do

0:29:26.400 --> 0:29:29.240
<v Speaker 1>like we both have the same humor. We were rolling

0:29:29.240 --> 0:29:32.400
<v Speaker 1>our eyes and doing these things like what do we

0:29:32.400 --> 0:29:37.440
<v Speaker 1>were mirroring? I thought, it isn't that interesting? And I,

0:29:37.640 --> 0:29:41.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, I forgot that. That was you were very easy.

0:29:41.440 --> 0:29:43.959
<v Speaker 1>All of you were easy. Can I just established that

0:29:44.000 --> 0:29:46.280
<v Speaker 1>because you know, I had such a love affair with

0:29:46.320 --> 0:29:49.480
<v Speaker 1>all of you. But but you and I Eric immediately

0:29:49.920 --> 0:29:52.600
<v Speaker 1>took off. And remember back your parents said, you know,

0:29:52.760 --> 0:29:55.240
<v Speaker 1>watch out for him. I said, I told your parents

0:29:55.280 --> 0:29:57.560
<v Speaker 1>I would watch out for you. I'm sure, I'm sure.

0:29:57.800 --> 0:30:01.080
<v Speaker 1>Well I think I was. Also I'm the Aaron's age. Yeah,

0:30:01.120 --> 0:30:02.880
<v Speaker 1>I was the same age as your son. So it

0:30:03.000 --> 0:30:05.520
<v Speaker 1>was you kind of instantly were like, okay, so that's

0:30:05.640 --> 0:30:09.320
<v Speaker 1>I got you. Yeah, that was very very simple, friendlier

0:30:09.400 --> 0:30:15.040
<v Speaker 1>than he nice, nice, but it was as you were, Betsy,

0:30:15.160 --> 0:30:17.360
<v Speaker 1>how old were your kids when boy Me's World started?

0:30:17.360 --> 0:30:20.280
<v Speaker 1>So you had kids at homes? A teenager still at home? Yeah,

0:30:20.640 --> 0:30:26.000
<v Speaker 1>I had Aaron at home and he was junior when

0:30:26.000 --> 0:30:29.240
<v Speaker 1>I started. Let's see what you're with it we started.

0:30:29.520 --> 0:30:30.920
<v Speaker 1>He if he was my age, he would have been

0:30:30.920 --> 0:30:34.680
<v Speaker 1>a junior going into a senior year of high school. Yeah,

0:30:34.920 --> 0:30:40.320
<v Speaker 1>he was not. He underplayed the fact that all his friends,

0:30:41.200 --> 0:30:51.280
<v Speaker 1>what dude, Mom goes, no, No, she's not, alright, don't

0:30:51.320 --> 0:30:59.840
<v Speaker 1>say that. I mean, he hated that. I was like,

0:31:03.280 --> 0:31:07.480
<v Speaker 1>that's going back to amy, you know, being a little

0:31:07.520 --> 0:31:10.080
<v Speaker 1>bit in the background and not having as much meaty

0:31:10.120 --> 0:31:13.200
<v Speaker 1>stuff to chew on as as Rusty did. As Alan,

0:31:14.040 --> 0:31:18.360
<v Speaker 1>we have got to give you so, like, just so

0:31:18.480 --> 0:31:22.080
<v Speaker 1>many props because we have talked about it in every

0:31:22.120 --> 0:31:25.120
<v Speaker 1>single episode. How and writer made a really good point

0:31:25.480 --> 0:31:28.120
<v Speaker 1>one day where he said, you know, we're now rewatching

0:31:28.160 --> 0:31:31.480
<v Speaker 1>the show as adults, and so we are now recognizing

0:31:31.560 --> 0:31:34.120
<v Speaker 1>things on the show that when we were kids we

0:31:34.160 --> 0:31:37.920
<v Speaker 1>never paid attention to. And this is with absolutely no disrespect.

0:31:38.000 --> 0:31:40.200
<v Speaker 1>A lot of that was then the stuff that the

0:31:40.240 --> 0:31:43.560
<v Speaker 1>adults were doing. We weren't paying attention to what the

0:31:43.640 --> 0:31:46.240
<v Speaker 1>storylines were that we're going on with the adults, and

0:31:46.280 --> 0:31:49.480
<v Speaker 1>what the nuances were and how the layers were filling in.

0:31:49.560 --> 0:31:52.520
<v Speaker 1>We were just thinking about where is the where is

0:31:52.560 --> 0:31:55.120
<v Speaker 1>the hard laugh coming? And and those were the things

0:31:55.120 --> 0:31:59.520
<v Speaker 1>we focused on. Child you were That's true. We were

0:31:59.760 --> 0:32:03.520
<v Speaker 1>very Aty much taught to that that was where the Yeah,

0:32:03.560 --> 0:32:06.560
<v Speaker 1>that that's where the good was. But what we have

0:32:06.880 --> 0:32:12.479
<v Speaker 1>all recognized in rewatching the show is how incredible the

0:32:12.600 --> 0:32:16.080
<v Speaker 1>moments are that you and Rusty give, even when you

0:32:16.160 --> 0:32:18.800
<v Speaker 1>were only in two scenes, or even when you only

0:32:18.800 --> 0:32:24.040
<v Speaker 1>have a few lines, the way you're under exactly exactly,

0:32:24.400 --> 0:32:27.760
<v Speaker 1>that's the proof of it. That's exactly the proof of it.

0:32:27.840 --> 0:32:31.320
<v Speaker 1>The way like, for example, your performance and Grandma was

0:32:31.360 --> 0:32:35.720
<v Speaker 1>a rolling stone where you are making the muffins in

0:32:35.760 --> 0:32:40.240
<v Speaker 1>the kitchen and Corey comes down and says, hey, where's Grandma?

0:32:40.440 --> 0:32:44.680
<v Speaker 1>And you give the tiniest little look and you say, hey,

0:32:44.760 --> 0:32:49.440
<v Speaker 1>let's make some muffins. And with just the smallest look,

0:32:49.720 --> 0:32:53.080
<v Speaker 1>the audience knows something bigger is going on. She knows

0:32:53.120 --> 0:32:56.080
<v Speaker 1>what it is. She's trying to protect him. And the

0:32:56.120 --> 0:32:59.000
<v Speaker 1>fact that you were able to get it across and

0:32:59.000 --> 0:33:01.920
<v Speaker 1>and just the amount of warmth and and like you

0:33:01.960 --> 0:33:04.840
<v Speaker 1>are such a you were perfect, you are a you

0:33:04.880 --> 0:33:09.880
<v Speaker 1>were absolutely flawless. And so watching you has been watching

0:33:09.920 --> 0:33:11.600
<v Speaker 1>you has truly been one of the joys for me

0:33:11.760 --> 0:33:18.800
<v Speaker 1>of doing this podcast a hugely well. We also thought

0:33:18.840 --> 0:33:20.680
<v Speaker 1>they hugely dropped the ball in that episode that it

0:33:20.720 --> 0:33:23.520
<v Speaker 1>would have been a perfect time for her for it

0:33:23.560 --> 0:33:27.680
<v Speaker 1>to be your mother, Amy's mom and not Malan's mom.

0:33:27.760 --> 0:33:30.040
<v Speaker 1>It would have just added an entire new layer to

0:33:30.080 --> 0:33:32.920
<v Speaker 1>the thing, given your character more do um and it

0:33:32.960 --> 0:33:35.120
<v Speaker 1>was just just wasn't done. So, I mean, it was

0:33:35.160 --> 0:33:36.720
<v Speaker 1>what it was. But that was something we brought up,

0:33:36.800 --> 0:33:38.880
<v Speaker 1>was like, why that was a perfect opportunity right there,

0:33:38.960 --> 0:33:42.120
<v Speaker 1>like it was and it was remember these are boys

0:33:42.120 --> 0:33:47.120
<v Speaker 1>writing this, Yeah, this is this is Michael's life. There's

0:33:47.120 --> 0:33:49.600
<v Speaker 1>a lot of it is Michael's experience with moms and

0:33:49.800 --> 0:33:52.360
<v Speaker 1>Gramazon so on. And so I mean, I can't I'm

0:33:52.360 --> 0:33:55.920
<v Speaker 1>not going to blame I'm not blaming that has something

0:33:55.960 --> 0:33:58.000
<v Speaker 1>to do with it. I'm gonna have to watch an

0:33:58.000 --> 0:34:01.040
<v Speaker 1>episode which one was that grand was a rolling stone.

0:34:01.040 --> 0:34:05.320
<v Speaker 1>It's the one that Rue McClanahan and and you are

0:34:05.360 --> 0:34:07.240
<v Speaker 1>just unbelievable in it. You have a you have a

0:34:07.280 --> 0:34:09.640
<v Speaker 1>whole scene where you you talk about how long you've

0:34:09.680 --> 0:34:12.760
<v Speaker 1>known her and uh, you just you deliver a message

0:34:12.760 --> 0:34:14.960
<v Speaker 1>with like no shame in your voice, no judgment. It's

0:34:14.960 --> 0:34:17.399
<v Speaker 1>really it's truly beautiful. Go back and rewatch it and

0:34:17.400 --> 0:34:20.719
<v Speaker 1>and appreciate you as much as we appreciate you. Um.

0:34:22.239 --> 0:34:26.080
<v Speaker 1>And in this episode, the one ten, the Christmas episode,

0:34:26.800 --> 0:34:34.480
<v Speaker 1>I thought your jokey, laughing, sarcastic. It made me feel

0:34:34.600 --> 0:34:37.360
<v Speaker 1>seen as a mother because a lot of the mothers

0:34:37.400 --> 0:34:40.560
<v Speaker 1>I know are you know if this had really happened

0:34:40.560 --> 0:34:43.239
<v Speaker 1>to their child, would find it impossible to laugh at it.

0:34:43.239 --> 0:34:46.400
<v Speaker 1>It would be this is traumatized my child. I'm going

0:34:46.440 --> 0:34:48.719
<v Speaker 1>to speak to a manager and you know it would

0:34:48.760 --> 0:34:52.120
<v Speaker 1>have been. And you obviously were very concerned about her

0:34:52.120 --> 0:34:54.319
<v Speaker 1>and you want her to be okay. But also the

0:34:54.400 --> 0:34:58.400
<v Speaker 1>absurdity of the situation is not lost on you. And

0:34:58.440 --> 0:35:00.880
<v Speaker 1>the way you come home and tell the story to

0:35:01.000 --> 0:35:03.640
<v Speaker 1>Rusty and explain it and start laughing, and then the

0:35:03.640 --> 0:35:06.080
<v Speaker 1>way you and Will at the door are laughing, it

0:35:06.239 --> 0:35:09.799
<v Speaker 1>is just more of your genius. How much of this

0:35:09.880 --> 0:35:12.960
<v Speaker 1>episode and your performance in it of laughing through some

0:35:13.080 --> 0:35:16.200
<v Speaker 1>of that stuff was just you? And how much of

0:35:16.200 --> 0:35:19.160
<v Speaker 1>it do you think was scripted. Oh it was totally me,

0:35:20.400 --> 0:35:23.359
<v Speaker 1>I told me, And it was totally Rusty. And the

0:35:23.400 --> 0:35:25.799
<v Speaker 1>thing was that the reason we went to that was

0:35:25.840 --> 0:35:30.600
<v Speaker 1>that immediately I'm going, you know, we're acting like like

0:35:30.880 --> 0:35:34.400
<v Speaker 1>I go, what am I doing? And what am I wearing? Anyway,

0:35:35.040 --> 0:35:38.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, I was like, that's boxy thing. But anyway,

0:35:38.080 --> 0:35:40.000
<v Speaker 1>I go, oh, God, that's bigger than life. And then

0:35:40.080 --> 0:35:42.600
<v Speaker 1>Rusty says, I didn't understand what this meant, And I said,

0:35:42.640 --> 0:35:47.640
<v Speaker 1>here's what happened. But I think what you had was.

0:35:48.120 --> 0:35:52.600
<v Speaker 1>Rusty starts laughing, and then I can't help but see

0:35:52.640 --> 0:35:55.800
<v Speaker 1>the humor in it there because we're on the same page.

0:35:56.080 --> 0:36:00.840
<v Speaker 1>And we're baby boomers. Okay, baby booms were born in

0:36:00.920 --> 0:36:05.680
<v Speaker 1>nineteen fifty. Baby boomers are hip and cool to the end.

0:36:06.239 --> 0:36:09.640
<v Speaker 1>You know, we really are, don't. We have a lot

0:36:09.680 --> 0:36:13.359
<v Speaker 1>more going on for us than our parents generation in

0:36:13.520 --> 0:36:17.239
<v Speaker 1>terms of relating to the dramas of the children. I mean,

0:36:18.200 --> 0:36:20.920
<v Speaker 1>I I thought it was perfectly natural to laugh, you know,

0:36:20.960 --> 0:36:23.640
<v Speaker 1>even though it learned it was totally That's what I

0:36:23.680 --> 0:36:28.160
<v Speaker 1>would have done myself. It's great. And do do you

0:36:28.200 --> 0:36:31.560
<v Speaker 1>and Rusty both still wear clogs? It's a it's a

0:36:31.560 --> 0:36:35.839
<v Speaker 1>fair question. Fair question. God, I stopped wearing clogs. They

0:36:35.840 --> 0:36:39.160
<v Speaker 1>were bothering my toes, but he lived in those things.

0:36:39.239 --> 0:36:42.560
<v Speaker 1>I just wear flip clops now I got one of

0:36:42.600 --> 0:36:45.160
<v Speaker 1>the time. I can't do anything. I don't know why.

0:36:45.200 --> 0:36:47.600
<v Speaker 1>It's so salient to me that you guys both always

0:36:47.640 --> 0:36:50.400
<v Speaker 1>wore clogs. It was the cutest thing because I I wondered,

0:36:50.960 --> 0:36:53.279
<v Speaker 1>did did one of you come to set wearing them?

0:36:53.280 --> 0:36:56.040
<v Speaker 1>And then the other person said, I'm also going to

0:36:56.080 --> 0:36:58.160
<v Speaker 1>get a pair of those, or did you both just

0:36:59.280 --> 0:37:02.319
<v Speaker 1>naturally were of those when you met. Well, there was

0:37:02.360 --> 0:37:05.160
<v Speaker 1>a fan of earth shoes at a certain point when

0:37:05.160 --> 0:37:09.000
<v Speaker 1>we were hippies. And so when you know young parents

0:37:09.080 --> 0:37:11.160
<v Speaker 1>or whatever, and you all have these shoes where you're

0:37:11.320 --> 0:37:14.400
<v Speaker 1>the back is lower than the top front, and different

0:37:14.480 --> 0:37:16.480
<v Speaker 1>kinds of shoes that are good for your back, we're

0:37:16.480 --> 0:37:18.799
<v Speaker 1>standing on your feet a lot. And the clogs I

0:37:18.880 --> 0:37:21.400
<v Speaker 1>had were right for that. So it gave me a

0:37:21.440 --> 0:37:23.759
<v Speaker 1>little height. It was a little taller than I really am.

0:37:23.960 --> 0:37:28.239
<v Speaker 1>Like that made my legs better. But really we just

0:37:28.360 --> 0:37:31.040
<v Speaker 1>both wore these clogs, and it was not planned. It

0:37:31.160 --> 0:37:33.919
<v Speaker 1>just was part of our age group. I just thank

0:37:33.960 --> 0:37:39.320
<v Speaker 1>you to tell you the truth. It was very Yeah,

0:37:39.440 --> 0:37:42.200
<v Speaker 1>what was your relationship with Rusty? Like Rusty said that

0:37:42.239 --> 0:37:44.360
<v Speaker 1>you guys were pretty close and that the four of

0:37:44.400 --> 0:37:48.080
<v Speaker 1>you with your spouses went to dinner rather often. What

0:37:48.239 --> 0:37:51.560
<v Speaker 1>tell us a little bit about your relationship. Oh, it

0:37:51.680 --> 0:37:54.960
<v Speaker 1>was wonderful. Um. I miss him a lot because I

0:37:55.000 --> 0:37:59.520
<v Speaker 1>don't get to see him much anymore. Um, but this, uh,

0:37:59.640 --> 0:38:02.520
<v Speaker 1>this is just an easy thing. We went mountain biking

0:38:02.560 --> 0:38:07.040
<v Speaker 1>together and we you know, I suddenly we were mountain biking.

0:38:07.280 --> 0:38:10.040
<v Speaker 1>I kid believe I was mountain biking, but we were.

0:38:10.320 --> 0:38:13.000
<v Speaker 1>And I had places to go, and he he even

0:38:13.080 --> 0:38:16.919
<v Speaker 1>moved where I moved because he liked the mountains where

0:38:16.920 --> 0:38:19.120
<v Speaker 1>we lived. And remember when we had the cast party

0:38:19.719 --> 0:38:23.000
<v Speaker 1>at the house in Montendo and that big house. We

0:38:23.080 --> 0:38:26.080
<v Speaker 1>finally moved out of that house, but he bought a

0:38:26.080 --> 0:38:28.800
<v Speaker 1>house over there too, And then, you know, their kids

0:38:28.800 --> 0:38:31.760
<v Speaker 1>got older. His he just had one baby at the time,

0:38:32.320 --> 0:38:34.880
<v Speaker 1>and so he was behind me in terms of my

0:38:34.960 --> 0:38:37.279
<v Speaker 1>kids were you know, like I said, your age. So

0:38:37.960 --> 0:38:43.200
<v Speaker 1>it was it was an easy thing. We still our friends.

0:38:43.640 --> 0:38:48.120
<v Speaker 1>We don't see each other very much, which I miss. Um.

0:38:48.200 --> 0:38:51.279
<v Speaker 1>It was awkward in a way almost when we came

0:38:51.280 --> 0:38:57.240
<v Speaker 1>back for Girl Meets World because he was directing, and

0:38:57.280 --> 0:39:00.239
<v Speaker 1>I was just sort of I'm not sure where could

0:39:00.239 --> 0:39:03.399
<v Speaker 1>fit in. It was kind of weird. So that that

0:39:03.480 --> 0:39:05.560
<v Speaker 1>was just more recently where I just got I don't

0:39:05.560 --> 0:39:09.560
<v Speaker 1>know where, you know, what our friendships like anymore. Um,

0:39:09.680 --> 0:39:14.120
<v Speaker 1>but we adored I adored him. I thought he was

0:39:14.200 --> 0:39:18.400
<v Speaker 1>so sexy and so fun and such a good actor.

0:39:18.920 --> 0:39:21.720
<v Speaker 1>And when he got you know, when he got bossy

0:39:21.800 --> 0:39:24.560
<v Speaker 1>with me, I just looked at him like, don't go there.

0:39:25.120 --> 0:39:29.759
<v Speaker 1>You know, most of the time we were on the

0:39:29.840 --> 0:39:33.080
<v Speaker 1>same page because we worked off each other and they

0:39:33.440 --> 0:39:37.520
<v Speaker 1>wrote us writing, so they're all that flirtatious stuff was

0:39:37.760 --> 0:39:40.800
<v Speaker 1>really there. I mean, that's what you do as an actor.

0:39:40.880 --> 0:39:43.239
<v Speaker 1>You play off the person you're in love with, and

0:39:44.040 --> 0:39:47.480
<v Speaker 1>it works and it really shows. And everybody when I

0:39:47.520 --> 0:39:50.759
<v Speaker 1>do these cameos, they all just think, you guys were

0:39:50.760 --> 0:39:55.480
<v Speaker 1>really in love, right, did you date? You know? We

0:39:55.640 --> 0:39:59.759
<v Speaker 1>never had an affair? No, sorry, you know, oh you know,

0:39:59.840 --> 0:40:02.759
<v Speaker 1>we didn't do that well the thing. But again, if

0:40:02.800 --> 0:40:05.200
<v Speaker 1>we're talking about pairing up, I mean, the parents are

0:40:05.200 --> 0:40:09.200
<v Speaker 1>the only set pair when the show starts, so it's like,

0:40:09.239 --> 0:40:12.640
<v Speaker 1>if there's not chemistry between that pair, that's not going

0:40:12.680 --> 0:40:15.040
<v Speaker 1>to be a I mean again. Matt McCoy have seen

0:40:15.120 --> 0:40:16.799
<v Speaker 1>him in a number of things. Is a fine actor.

0:40:16.840 --> 0:40:18.719
<v Speaker 1>I've seen him and he's done a ton of things

0:40:18.719 --> 0:40:21.240
<v Speaker 1>for years and years and years. But you and Rusty

0:40:21.320 --> 0:40:24.319
<v Speaker 1>the second year on screen in the pilot episode, I

0:40:24.320 --> 0:40:27.960
<v Speaker 1>mean the second you see them, boom, couple like you

0:40:28.040 --> 0:40:30.640
<v Speaker 1>just know right there. It's that you had that instantly

0:40:30.719 --> 0:40:34.960
<v Speaker 1>the couple feel, um, yeah, did you have at least

0:40:35.000 --> 0:40:36.319
<v Speaker 1>you might not have had an affair, but did you

0:40:36.320 --> 0:40:38.120
<v Speaker 1>at least have a little bit of a crush on Rusty.

0:40:38.280 --> 0:40:46.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm just a huge crush, but not like out of control.

0:40:46.160 --> 0:40:49.279
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't like do I dare you know? It was

0:40:49.719 --> 0:40:53.280
<v Speaker 1>never like that. It was just had such fun chemistry.

0:40:53.520 --> 0:40:57.840
<v Speaker 1>There was one time where we had to really kiss

0:40:58.840 --> 0:41:04.120
<v Speaker 1>and rock Corey's videoing. We've seen the episode. Yes, so

0:41:04.840 --> 0:41:09.799
<v Speaker 1>the the writers okay are watching this go down and

0:41:09.840 --> 0:41:12.560
<v Speaker 1>he says, now, come on, you got you know our

0:41:12.760 --> 0:41:15.640
<v Speaker 1>director Kimes like me, do you have to really kiss her?

0:41:15.760 --> 0:41:18.680
<v Speaker 1>Because you know, instead of just this little thing. So

0:41:19.040 --> 0:41:21.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm kind a thing of ice cream in my lap

0:41:22.200 --> 0:41:25.640
<v Speaker 1>and he starts to kiss me and the ice cream

0:41:25.760 --> 0:41:34.280
<v Speaker 1>stays oh the bowl, we're saying, because we're sharing ice cream.

0:41:34.840 --> 0:41:38.440
<v Speaker 1>It's like, huh what And then we get caught and

0:41:38.719 --> 0:41:42.120
<v Speaker 1>they come in and they're laughing their pants up, going

0:41:43.080 --> 0:41:47.200
<v Speaker 1>we need to get the ice creams, and they were

0:41:47.239 --> 0:41:51.160
<v Speaker 1>all all the girls were so envying me to kids,

0:41:51.360 --> 0:41:55.399
<v Speaker 1>trusting us like that, and it was really great. I'll

0:41:55.400 --> 0:41:59.160
<v Speaker 1>never forget. It was like, and it's usually it's embarrassing

0:41:59.239 --> 0:42:01.160
<v Speaker 1>if you have to kill it's a stranger, you know,

0:42:01.280 --> 0:42:02.879
<v Speaker 1>or I think they had to do it before, We've

0:42:02.920 --> 0:42:06.520
<v Speaker 1>all had to do it. But this this was embarrassing.

0:42:06.600 --> 0:42:10.239
<v Speaker 1>But once we got into it, it was like, well,

0:42:10.239 --> 0:42:12.160
<v Speaker 1>this is what it would be like. I don't know,

0:42:12.440 --> 0:42:15.919
<v Speaker 1>it just was fun. It's just a fun story when

0:42:15.920 --> 0:42:18.920
<v Speaker 1>I spilled the ice cream. Kind of kind of a

0:42:18.920 --> 0:42:23.279
<v Speaker 1>general question and because so much of like rewatching the

0:42:23.280 --> 0:42:25.799
<v Speaker 1>show for us and talking about our experience has been

0:42:26.840 --> 0:42:29.400
<v Speaker 1>you know, just realizing how little experience the three of

0:42:29.480 --> 0:42:31.400
<v Speaker 1>us had walking onto the set of Boy Meets Word, like,

0:42:31.440 --> 0:42:34.680
<v Speaker 1>we have nothing really to compare it to. So I'm wondering,

0:42:34.760 --> 0:42:38.360
<v Speaker 1>how did the set compare to other sets, or or

0:42:38.400 --> 0:42:41.920
<v Speaker 1>how what was the community of writers and actors, what

0:42:41.960 --> 0:42:44.279
<v Speaker 1>was the vibe? I mean, how was it different than

0:42:44.320 --> 0:42:47.120
<v Speaker 1>Home Improvement? Was it better? Was it more relaxed or

0:42:47.360 --> 0:42:49.239
<v Speaker 1>different theater companies that you had been a part of,

0:42:49.280 --> 0:42:51.839
<v Speaker 1>Like in general, what was Boy Meats World like as

0:42:51.840 --> 0:42:56.040
<v Speaker 1>a set. Well, I hadn't been in l A that long.

0:42:56.160 --> 0:42:59.040
<v Speaker 1>I've been flown out for a pilot and that's what

0:42:59.160 --> 0:43:03.160
<v Speaker 1>got us out there, but um for something else. But

0:43:04.920 --> 0:43:09.200
<v Speaker 1>it was very similar. The whole thing is very similar.

0:43:09.360 --> 0:43:12.000
<v Speaker 1>It's it's a way they do it, you know, It's

0:43:12.080 --> 0:43:17.280
<v Speaker 1>it's commonplace the way things are handled. Um. I didn't

0:43:18.200 --> 0:43:22.000
<v Speaker 1>noticed a big change except for that here I was

0:43:22.560 --> 0:43:27.239
<v Speaker 1>paying full, paid full, you know, it's not just you know,

0:43:27.360 --> 0:43:31.279
<v Speaker 1>I wasn't just a guest star, and I felt a

0:43:31.320 --> 0:43:34.360
<v Speaker 1>responsibility about it. I got to stay in Tim Allen's

0:43:34.440 --> 0:43:36.560
<v Speaker 1>room when we first shot at and things like that.

0:43:37.000 --> 0:43:43.680
<v Speaker 1>But in terms of the process, um, did we did

0:43:43.719 --> 0:43:47.840
<v Speaker 1>we start right at Disney or was that? Was it

0:43:47.960 --> 0:43:50.360
<v Speaker 1>right at Disney and then we went to mt M

0:43:50.520 --> 0:43:53.440
<v Speaker 1>after that? It was the first two years at Disney,

0:43:53.560 --> 0:43:57.320
<v Speaker 1>the next two years at KATL, the third two years

0:43:57.480 --> 0:44:01.279
<v Speaker 1>at Radford, and then the last year back at Disney. Right.

0:44:02.120 --> 0:44:04.200
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's funny that the Redford stands out more

0:44:04.239 --> 0:44:07.480
<v Speaker 1>than anything else for me to kind of it was

0:44:07.520 --> 0:44:09.879
<v Speaker 1>a great lot. It was such a great lot, that

0:44:09.960 --> 0:44:14.120
<v Speaker 1>was and we were rolling by that time, and Generous

0:44:14.239 --> 0:44:18.960
<v Speaker 1>was loosening your temper across the sett I remember, and

0:44:19.040 --> 0:44:20.960
<v Speaker 1>Seinfeld was right. I mean, we were right next to

0:44:21.000 --> 0:44:23.520
<v Speaker 1>Seinfeld and we shot like our opening title sequence on

0:44:23.520 --> 0:44:25.960
<v Speaker 1>the Seinfeld New York Street, Third Rock from the Sun,

0:44:26.160 --> 0:44:29.560
<v Speaker 1>Third Rock was right next to us, and it was awesome.

0:44:29.680 --> 0:44:31.400
<v Speaker 1>That was a really cool set to be on you,

0:44:31.520 --> 0:44:33.440
<v Speaker 1>which was great for you guys when you were older

0:44:33.480 --> 0:44:35.840
<v Speaker 1>and you were kind of, you know, strutting your steps,

0:44:35.920 --> 0:44:39.640
<v Speaker 1>super hip. Yeah, we're super cool. Yeah. You all had

0:44:39.640 --> 0:44:42.040
<v Speaker 1>those fancy cars and I was still driving my hunt.

0:44:42.280 --> 0:44:46.200
<v Speaker 1>In fact, I said to you Will what why is

0:44:46.239 --> 0:44:48.759
<v Speaker 1>it was? I think it was you. I said, why

0:44:48.800 --> 0:44:52.880
<v Speaker 1>do you have this? Why were you had you had?

0:44:55.840 --> 0:44:59.439
<v Speaker 1>I'm driving this Honda Civic, you know. And you said,

0:44:59.480 --> 0:45:03.960
<v Speaker 1>I don't know why. Well, I have two kids in college,

0:45:06.640 --> 0:45:09.759
<v Speaker 1>you know. Maybe, but things trickled off a little more

0:45:10.200 --> 0:45:12.640
<v Speaker 1>most of it. I was like, I'm nineteen and selfish.

0:45:12.680 --> 0:45:17.000
<v Speaker 1>That's why I have miss I kind have cared less,

0:45:17.080 --> 0:45:29.040
<v Speaker 1>you know. It wasn't my kind. Now I have a

0:45:29.160 --> 0:45:34.560
<v Speaker 1>very important question for you, Betsy. Are you team sideyard

0:45:34.880 --> 0:45:40.239
<v Speaker 1>or team backyard? Do you know what I'm talking about? Okay,

0:45:40.280 --> 0:45:44.200
<v Speaker 1>So the little yard that you guys share with pheeny,

0:45:44.880 --> 0:45:48.200
<v Speaker 1>do you think that yard is the side yard of

0:45:48.239 --> 0:45:51.480
<v Speaker 1>the Matthews house or is it the backyard of the

0:45:51.520 --> 0:45:56.520
<v Speaker 1>Matthews house. Well, it looks like a side yard. Oh oh,

0:45:57.880 --> 0:46:03.160
<v Speaker 1>excuse me, she said, looks side so tidy, and there's

0:46:03.200 --> 0:46:05.839
<v Speaker 1>a you know, the porch just sort of stops there.

0:46:05.880 --> 0:46:09.839
<v Speaker 1>You don't know what's beyond there. Um, I would imagine

0:46:10.360 --> 0:46:12.920
<v Speaker 1>it's a side yard and then it goes around to

0:46:13.000 --> 0:46:18.080
<v Speaker 1>the front. M M. Interesting. I never thought this before.

0:46:18.160 --> 0:46:20.920
<v Speaker 1>This is the first time anyway, So let me let

0:46:20.920 --> 0:46:23.799
<v Speaker 1>me lob something at you. What about the fact that

0:46:23.840 --> 0:46:28.879
<v Speaker 1>the front door is directly opposite the back door that

0:46:29.000 --> 0:46:35.560
<v Speaker 1>leads to change your mind? She said, She's just thinking

0:46:35.600 --> 0:46:40.040
<v Speaker 1>about it. We're trying to present both sides. Well, couldn't

0:46:40.440 --> 0:46:44.400
<v Speaker 1>be that the front door is on the other side

0:46:44.520 --> 0:46:49.600
<v Speaker 1>and that's the front yard that takes you to the side.

0:46:50.400 --> 0:46:52.839
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I just don't think it's the back yard.

0:46:53.239 --> 0:46:57.960
<v Speaker 1>All right. Well, I'm sorry, congratulations you've drafted Betsy to

0:46:58.040 --> 0:47:01.239
<v Speaker 1>your team. I am not. It's not a team. It

0:47:01.400 --> 0:47:04.319
<v Speaker 1>is just it's it's I don't I think we can

0:47:04.400 --> 0:47:08.719
<v Speaker 1>all agree. It's a strangely designed home. I think it

0:47:08.800 --> 0:47:13.200
<v Speaker 1>may be a corner lots. Hey, maybe we're both right.

0:47:13.239 --> 0:47:17.640
<v Speaker 1>Maybe we're both right. There's not enough compromise in the

0:47:17.680 --> 0:47:21.000
<v Speaker 1>world anymore. Maybe we're both right, Daniel, listen, I'm totally

0:47:21.000 --> 0:47:22.960
<v Speaker 1>fine with both of us being right. It also it

0:47:23.080 --> 0:47:26.600
<v Speaker 1>is also team it makes no sense. Like every every

0:47:26.640 --> 0:47:31.200
<v Speaker 1>political argument I've ever had with it's like everybody's wrong

0:47:31.440 --> 0:47:36.920
<v Speaker 1>or everybody's right. You're always very strong about something, and

0:47:37.120 --> 0:47:39.240
<v Speaker 1>Will You're always like no, no, no, everybody's an idiot,

0:47:39.400 --> 0:47:45.000
<v Speaker 1>or everybody every exactly you know what it is? I

0:47:45.040 --> 0:47:47.160
<v Speaker 1>think it's that it's I had two older brothers that

0:47:47.200 --> 0:47:49.760
<v Speaker 1>did they get along great now, but didn't always get along.

0:47:49.840 --> 0:47:51.600
<v Speaker 1>So I was the one who was like, hey, you

0:47:51.640 --> 0:47:55.120
<v Speaker 1>know what, maybe you're both right, we're both wrong, we're

0:47:55.160 --> 0:47:57.919
<v Speaker 1>both wrong. Maybe it's all shades of gray and there

0:47:58.040 --> 0:48:02.600
<v Speaker 1>is no one answer to anything. How often are you

0:48:02.640 --> 0:48:05.239
<v Speaker 1>still me and now? Will? What is it? Are you

0:48:05.280 --> 0:48:11.240
<v Speaker 1>still recognized all the time for being? Wow? And I

0:48:11.280 --> 0:48:14.880
<v Speaker 1>love it. I people come up and thank me all

0:48:14.960 --> 0:48:19.200
<v Speaker 1>the time for being the example of a perfect mom

0:48:19.920 --> 0:48:24.000
<v Speaker 1>and wife and family and how they raised they were raised.

0:48:24.800 --> 0:48:27.560
<v Speaker 1>I say, well, I did raise you, and they go, yes,

0:48:27.600 --> 0:48:32.360
<v Speaker 1>you didn't. They really feel that. I mean, I watched

0:48:32.400 --> 0:48:36.160
<v Speaker 1>Father Knows Fast, I watched, I watched all these things,

0:48:36.160 --> 0:48:39.759
<v Speaker 1>but I never felt like Donna Reed didn't raise me.

0:48:40.040 --> 0:48:43.360
<v Speaker 1>I didn't feel like that. My mother was pretty wonderful.

0:48:43.840 --> 0:48:46.960
<v Speaker 1>But and I also had three brothers and we all sang.

0:48:47.000 --> 0:48:50.799
<v Speaker 1>And I came from a family that wasn't stereotypical in

0:48:50.840 --> 0:48:54.360
<v Speaker 1>the sense that we weren't always dependent on the TV

0:48:54.520 --> 0:48:58.120
<v Speaker 1>to define ourselves. That's what I'm gonna say. Dad was scary.

0:48:58.200 --> 0:49:00.320
<v Speaker 1>Dad was scary. I would have liked my dead to

0:49:00.360 --> 0:49:04.279
<v Speaker 1>be more like Rusty. I think that better. Well, you

0:49:04.320 --> 0:49:07.640
<v Speaker 1>really were like it, just I mean, you were a

0:49:07.680 --> 0:49:10.280
<v Speaker 1>perfect mother. I think the way the character was written

0:49:11.880 --> 0:49:13.600
<v Speaker 1>had a little bit to do with it, but it

0:49:13.600 --> 0:49:15.880
<v Speaker 1>it wasn't even of them. A lot of credits, it

0:49:15.960 --> 0:49:18.640
<v Speaker 1>wasn't even them, though. It's so much of it is

0:49:18.680 --> 0:49:24.640
<v Speaker 1>who you are. And yeah, you're so grounding. Thank you.

0:49:24.800 --> 0:49:28.399
<v Speaker 1>That is very very sweet to hear. And actually I

0:49:28.440 --> 0:49:30.920
<v Speaker 1>feel that I was. And when I watched it, I go,

0:49:31.640 --> 0:49:34.799
<v Speaker 1>you know, I don't like that outfit, but you know, good,

0:49:34.800 --> 0:49:37.439
<v Speaker 1>I look like I'm acting, you know, a little bit.

0:49:37.520 --> 0:49:39.279
<v Speaker 1>You know, at first, you're kind of trying to find

0:49:39.320 --> 0:49:43.080
<v Speaker 1>your like that you humor thing you're trying to over do,

0:49:43.280 --> 0:49:46.799
<v Speaker 1>you do it out a little bit too big, but overall, um,

0:49:46.840 --> 0:49:50.359
<v Speaker 1>I just I think that when you asked me if

0:49:50.400 --> 0:49:57.200
<v Speaker 1>I talked to Michael about feeling left out or underappreciated

0:49:57.320 --> 0:50:00.719
<v Speaker 1>or underwritten, and I did go to about that, but

0:50:00.800 --> 0:50:04.360
<v Speaker 1>it was not until the very end. It wasn't until

0:50:04.440 --> 0:50:07.520
<v Speaker 1>after we did the scene where I come to class

0:50:08.400 --> 0:50:11.719
<v Speaker 1>and and I think Michael wasn't there or something, and

0:50:11.760 --> 0:50:14.560
<v Speaker 1>we did it without him, and I thought, well, this

0:50:14.640 --> 0:50:17.880
<v Speaker 1>is finally they're kind of giving me something to talk about,

0:50:17.880 --> 0:50:20.120
<v Speaker 1>and so I went to Michael. I think it was

0:50:20.239 --> 0:50:22.879
<v Speaker 1>during the time where I didn't approve of running into

0:50:22.920 --> 0:50:25.200
<v Speaker 1>you at the hotel or something. I felt I don't

0:50:25.320 --> 0:50:28.279
<v Speaker 1>feel like people my friend said, gee, you don't have

0:50:28.320 --> 0:50:29.600
<v Speaker 1>a lot to do, or you know, I don't have

0:50:29.600 --> 0:50:31.640
<v Speaker 1>a lot to say, you know, at different times over

0:50:31.680 --> 0:50:33.680
<v Speaker 1>the years, and I said, you know, that's kinding to

0:50:33.760 --> 0:50:35.880
<v Speaker 1>bother me. So I went to Michael about it, and

0:50:35.920 --> 0:50:39.520
<v Speaker 1>he said, I said, I don't think people take what

0:50:39.640 --> 0:50:43.040
<v Speaker 1>I feel or think seriously enough. I think the woman's

0:50:43.120 --> 0:50:45.440
<v Speaker 1>voice here is not being heard. But it took me

0:50:45.800 --> 0:50:48.600
<v Speaker 1>years to get the courage up to do that. And

0:50:48.640 --> 0:50:56.320
<v Speaker 1>he said, everyone loves you, and I said, well, that's nice,

0:50:56.520 --> 0:50:59.040
<v Speaker 1>that's great, but I'm not you know, I'm not sure

0:50:59.120 --> 0:51:02.560
<v Speaker 1>you're really getting I think that that altered his thinking

0:51:02.600 --> 0:51:05.080
<v Speaker 1>a little bit about how things were done after that,

0:51:06.040 --> 0:51:10.600
<v Speaker 1>But it wasn't until really years later where I watched

0:51:11.000 --> 0:51:13.640
<v Speaker 1>something that we were doing and I went, you know,

0:51:14.400 --> 0:51:16.440
<v Speaker 1>well that beat in this. I'm not as bad in

0:51:16.520 --> 0:51:18.719
<v Speaker 1>this as I thought, you know, just because I didn't

0:51:18.719 --> 0:51:21.040
<v Speaker 1>have a lot to do, you know, I underestimated. And

0:51:21.040 --> 0:51:25.560
<v Speaker 1>I went bed and he said, you were wonderful. You

0:51:25.800 --> 0:51:29.400
<v Speaker 1>made it happen. You did. It's just that he didn't

0:51:29.400 --> 0:51:33.120
<v Speaker 1>want to take responsibility and the fact that the woman

0:51:33.280 --> 0:51:37.080
<v Speaker 1>didn't have a voice in the same way that by

0:51:37.200 --> 0:51:42.279
<v Speaker 1>then I should have had. Yeah. So I did address it,

0:51:42.320 --> 0:51:46.040
<v Speaker 1>but it was a little too late to you know, yeah,

0:51:46.040 --> 0:51:49.760
<v Speaker 1>which is strange because every time there was something where

0:51:50.400 --> 0:51:53.120
<v Speaker 1>Amy had more to do, it was great. It. I

0:51:53.160 --> 0:51:54.640
<v Speaker 1>mean it really was. It was. I can't wait to

0:51:54.680 --> 0:51:56.400
<v Speaker 1>get to some of the later episodes. Again. I keep

0:51:56.440 --> 0:51:58.359
<v Speaker 1>going back to that one where you and I had

0:51:58.400 --> 0:52:00.040
<v Speaker 1>to share, going to like you were going back to

0:52:00.160 --> 0:52:02.600
<v Speaker 1>college and you were reading about I'll never forget that

0:52:02.719 --> 0:52:04.279
<v Speaker 1>the episode where you come in and you read about

0:52:04.320 --> 0:52:09.160
<v Speaker 1>like your first um physical experience, like your first sexual experience,

0:52:09.200 --> 0:52:13.000
<v Speaker 1>and you're reading it to Eric's class in college and

0:52:13.040 --> 0:52:15.840
<v Speaker 1>it's Eric going, oh god, my mommy's talking about and

0:52:15.880 --> 0:52:18.440
<v Speaker 1>it was just it was so fun and there was

0:52:18.520 --> 0:52:22.120
<v Speaker 1>something sometimes you you connect characters that shouldn't work very

0:52:22.160 --> 0:52:24.920
<v Speaker 1>well together and they just worked great. And you know,

0:52:24.960 --> 0:52:26.600
<v Speaker 1>they did that with Eric and Feeni at one point,

0:52:26.600 --> 0:52:28.440
<v Speaker 1>but I thought Eric and Amy were that same way

0:52:28.480 --> 0:52:31.080
<v Speaker 1>where it was like when they kind of hooked us up. Um,

0:52:31.080 --> 0:52:33.200
<v Speaker 1>the characters really meshed well together. So I can't wait

0:52:33.239 --> 0:52:35.920
<v Speaker 1>to kind of get to those episodes. I'm gonna go

0:52:36.000 --> 0:52:41.400
<v Speaker 1>back and watch that's what we're doing, and that's the plan.

0:52:41.520 --> 0:52:44.600
<v Speaker 1>You're doing this, you guys. This is so fun. Thank you.

0:52:44.640 --> 0:52:46.520
<v Speaker 1>Thank you for coming up with the idea for us

0:52:46.560 --> 0:52:48.600
<v Speaker 1>to do this. Yeah, this is amazing, Betsy, for you

0:52:48.640 --> 0:52:50.480
<v Speaker 1>to come up with this. You did. You came up

0:52:50.480 --> 0:52:53.120
<v Speaker 1>with the idea and it was after can in two

0:52:53.120 --> 0:52:56.719
<v Speaker 1>thousand and eighteen, So thank you. Um, Betsy, do you

0:52:56.800 --> 0:53:00.560
<v Speaker 1>have any favorite like behind the scenes story their memories

0:53:00.600 --> 0:53:04.799
<v Speaker 1>you'd like to share. No, you hated all of it.

0:53:06.160 --> 0:53:11.680
<v Speaker 1>It can go from home improvement. Sure, So I I

0:53:11.760 --> 0:53:14.200
<v Speaker 1>have to think for a minute. Asked me something else

0:53:14.239 --> 0:53:16.279
<v Speaker 1>and it will come to me because I think someone

0:53:16.360 --> 0:53:19.040
<v Speaker 1>like a behind this scenes stuff. But the ice cream

0:53:19.080 --> 0:53:21.960
<v Speaker 1>story is great. Yeah, okay, let me ask you another question.

0:53:22.040 --> 0:53:26.000
<v Speaker 1>What was your first impression of Bill Daniels and how

0:53:26.040 --> 0:53:30.200
<v Speaker 1>did your relationship with Bill evolve over the years? Good question.

0:53:30.640 --> 0:53:37.560
<v Speaker 1>I was awestruck because I'd seen him do um seventeen

0:53:37.640 --> 0:53:42.840
<v Speaker 1>seventy six on Broadway, So I mean I was already

0:53:42.880 --> 0:53:45.160
<v Speaker 1>Plus I loved him and what it was at Saint

0:53:45.160 --> 0:53:50.120
<v Speaker 1>Elsewhere when I loved him and everything, and so I

0:53:50.280 --> 0:53:55.680
<v Speaker 1>felt an immediate affinity to his theatricality, his musical experience.

0:53:56.080 --> 0:53:59.279
<v Speaker 1>So we we actually hit it off pretty darn well.

0:53:59.480 --> 0:54:03.080
<v Speaker 1>I was a little intimidated because he had strong opinions

0:54:03.080 --> 0:54:08.239
<v Speaker 1>about things, but um, overall we hit it off pretty well.

0:54:08.400 --> 0:54:11.680
<v Speaker 1>We liked each other. Yeah, it's nice. One other thing

0:54:11.680 --> 0:54:13.400
<v Speaker 1>we want to talk about, which we haven't addressed yet,

0:54:13.520 --> 0:54:17.560
<v Speaker 1>is you are, were, and are still a phenomenal singer,

0:54:17.640 --> 0:54:21.000
<v Speaker 1>incredible musician. Yeah, so, how it was cool. In this

0:54:21.040 --> 0:54:23.160
<v Speaker 1>episode two, they brought in the piano. I bet you

0:54:23.239 --> 0:54:31.520
<v Speaker 1>that was because of you. I'm sure. Yeah, I remember backstage,

0:54:31.560 --> 0:54:34.560
<v Speaker 1>you and band especially always singing musical It's always talking

0:54:34.600 --> 0:54:37.720
<v Speaker 1>about musicals. Yeah, you were such a Were you still

0:54:37.760 --> 0:54:39.640
<v Speaker 1>singing as you were doing? Boy? I mean were you

0:54:39.719 --> 0:54:42.680
<v Speaker 1>going out and doing You were doing cabaret stuff too?

0:54:42.680 --> 0:54:46.280
<v Speaker 1>Were in my club acts? Yeah? I did two club

0:54:46.320 --> 0:54:49.520
<v Speaker 1>acts my cycle one I liked the best, but yeah,

0:54:49.560 --> 0:54:52.719
<v Speaker 1>I did too, And I went to was the cinegrell

0:54:52.880 --> 0:54:56.560
<v Speaker 1>was the second one on at the Hollywood Roosevelt Hotel.

0:54:56.719 --> 0:54:58.880
<v Speaker 1>Because we went. You invited all of us and we

0:54:59.040 --> 0:55:01.920
<v Speaker 1>invited you all to the one. And I don't know

0:55:01.960 --> 0:55:04.399
<v Speaker 1>if it was the second one the first one, but anyway, yeah,

0:55:04.600 --> 0:55:07.080
<v Speaker 1>that's what that's who I am. So what came first?

0:55:07.080 --> 0:55:11.279
<v Speaker 1>Singing or acting? Well? I started singing at birth, you know,

0:55:11.360 --> 0:55:15.840
<v Speaker 1>I mean my family, and I say this proudly. I

0:55:15.880 --> 0:55:20.360
<v Speaker 1>have incredible set of pipes. We inherited my father's voice,

0:55:20.600 --> 0:55:24.760
<v Speaker 1>and I can sing opera and I can sing show tunes,

0:55:24.800 --> 0:55:27.960
<v Speaker 1>and I just you know, had an instrument that saved

0:55:28.040 --> 0:55:30.479
<v Speaker 1>me when I had went through geeky times. At least

0:55:30.480 --> 0:55:33.239
<v Speaker 1>I had that, you know. So I think it's part

0:55:33.239 --> 0:55:35.480
<v Speaker 1>of my identity, and so in a way when I

0:55:35.520 --> 0:55:37.080
<v Speaker 1>work as an actress now that I think of it,

0:55:37.160 --> 0:55:41.040
<v Speaker 1>especially with this, there's a musicality to me about it.

0:55:41.920 --> 0:55:44.919
<v Speaker 1>It wouldn't be surprising if he went, oh, she can

0:55:44.920 --> 0:55:48.719
<v Speaker 1>single the you know, just the way I talk and

0:55:48.920 --> 0:55:51.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, stuff like that. But no singing is was

0:55:51.960 --> 0:55:54.719
<v Speaker 1>my whole life, and my singing growing up being the

0:55:54.760 --> 0:55:59.480
<v Speaker 1>only girl and the youngest of three boys. Um, they

0:55:59.480 --> 0:56:01.120
<v Speaker 1>were all saying in too, so we had a lot

0:56:01.160 --> 0:56:04.960
<v Speaker 1>to do together. But when often during the growing up stages,

0:56:05.080 --> 0:56:08.600
<v Speaker 1>I was just in the backseat singing away to myself

0:56:08.640 --> 0:56:12.239
<v Speaker 1>all the time. And now our granddaughter was visiting from

0:56:12.239 --> 0:56:15.719
<v Speaker 1>Sweden this couple of weeks ago that Aaron and his

0:56:15.800 --> 0:56:17.640
<v Speaker 1>family moved to Sweden. I don't know if I told

0:56:17.640 --> 0:56:20.640
<v Speaker 1>you that, which you know, freaked me out, but anyway,

0:56:20.640 --> 0:56:24.120
<v Speaker 1>they came to visit for four weeks and she's now

0:56:24.160 --> 0:56:27.799
<v Speaker 1>this tree going on four and she's in love with

0:56:27.880 --> 0:56:30.879
<v Speaker 1>this new character that from TV. It's not Lion King,

0:56:30.920 --> 0:56:35.440
<v Speaker 1>but it's this Mahunta or whenever. Her name is Mahoya Marianna.

0:56:36.080 --> 0:56:40.880
<v Speaker 1>And she sits back there in the carsy just all ourself,

0:56:41.000 --> 0:56:44.560
<v Speaker 1>and and I went, that's what I did, and I

0:56:44.640 --> 0:56:50.160
<v Speaker 1>kept myself company. I kept myself company by my voice

0:56:51.320 --> 0:56:54.560
<v Speaker 1>just singing was away for me to know I was there.

0:56:57.000 --> 0:57:01.279
<v Speaker 1>So sure, still not so sure, but I just miss it.

0:57:01.719 --> 0:57:04.839
<v Speaker 1>What do you think Amy and Allen would be doing now?

0:57:05.040 --> 0:57:08.000
<v Speaker 1>What do you think now thirty years after we first

0:57:08.080 --> 0:57:11.040
<v Speaker 1>met them? What do you think your relationship would be like?

0:57:11.120 --> 0:57:13.720
<v Speaker 1>And what do you think you'd be up to now? Well,

0:57:13.760 --> 0:57:16.760
<v Speaker 1>I think it would probably be rather similar to the

0:57:16.800 --> 0:57:19.560
<v Speaker 1>way we are in real life. Um, I think because

0:57:19.600 --> 0:57:23.920
<v Speaker 1>we're both very outdoorsy. Um, we'd probably buy a camper

0:57:25.000 --> 0:57:28.280
<v Speaker 1>and get one of you know, maybe the new Uh

0:57:28.400 --> 0:57:33.000
<v Speaker 1>what it's with an s sprinter van. It's a S

0:57:33.000 --> 0:57:38.320
<v Speaker 1>S word, it's sprint what the sprinter van? No, it's

0:57:38.360 --> 0:57:44.240
<v Speaker 1>it's like one word like spanks, except not spending. But

0:57:44.320 --> 0:57:47.440
<v Speaker 1>it's like that. I'll think of it. And it's just

0:57:47.640 --> 0:57:50.240
<v Speaker 1>you know, to haul that around and just go everywhere

0:57:50.400 --> 0:57:54.400
<v Speaker 1>within the mountains, go fishing, the um, traveling and touring

0:57:54.440 --> 0:57:57.800
<v Speaker 1>and so on. And um, I don't see us, Allen

0:57:57.840 --> 0:58:00.640
<v Speaker 1>and Amy, of having a ton of money, but we'd

0:58:00.680 --> 0:58:03.600
<v Speaker 1>saved up a bit of retirement money. We could do

0:58:03.680 --> 0:58:08.360
<v Speaker 1>that and you know, have a good time together. Luckily, luckily,

0:58:08.400 --> 0:58:10.360
<v Speaker 1>spanks aren't that expensive, so the two of you could

0:58:10.360 --> 0:58:18.480
<v Speaker 1>easily fit and expensive. This is the thing about getting older.

0:58:18.480 --> 0:58:21.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm seventy two and it's like are you You do

0:58:21.720 --> 0:58:27.320
<v Speaker 1>not look so I want to where can? Where can?

0:58:27.920 --> 0:58:29.520
<v Speaker 1>All of our listeners are going to want to know

0:58:29.560 --> 0:58:31.640
<v Speaker 1>where they can see you now, where they can find

0:58:31.640 --> 0:58:35.400
<v Speaker 1>you in You did an amazing movie called Painter that

0:58:35.520 --> 0:58:38.640
<v Speaker 1>was a total departure from the Amy Matthews character. Why

0:58:38.640 --> 0:58:40.360
<v Speaker 1>don't you tell us a little bit about that? And

0:58:40.400 --> 0:58:43.720
<v Speaker 1>then also where we can find you? Now? Well, um,

0:58:43.840 --> 0:58:47.640
<v Speaker 1>right now I'm here, not right this minute thing, you know.

0:58:48.120 --> 0:58:51.480
<v Speaker 1>So I auditioned occasionally for stuff and doing these self papings,

0:58:51.520 --> 0:58:53.680
<v Speaker 1>which you know, I'm never quite sure I'm doing very well,

0:58:54.040 --> 0:58:57.600
<v Speaker 1>but um I do that. But the Painter. But Painter

0:58:58.320 --> 0:59:02.400
<v Speaker 1>was the surprise that can came to me. And I

0:59:02.440 --> 0:59:05.800
<v Speaker 1>was shocked that it came out so well. I didn't

0:59:05.800 --> 0:59:08.640
<v Speaker 1>know what that was a low budget movie, but I'm

0:59:08.720 --> 0:59:11.960
<v Speaker 1>so proud of it because, um they just made a

0:59:12.000 --> 0:59:15.120
<v Speaker 1>big to do. When I had after it premiered, I

0:59:15.160 --> 0:59:17.560
<v Speaker 1>was on the radio. The radio is all over the

0:59:17.600 --> 0:59:20.320
<v Speaker 1>country going was it really hard for you to break

0:59:20.360 --> 0:59:23.120
<v Speaker 1>away from Amy mac throughs to this, I said, not

0:59:23.440 --> 0:59:26.960
<v Speaker 1>at all. It was not hard at all. It's this

0:59:27.080 --> 0:59:31.800
<v Speaker 1>was easy. This was so simply clear. I mean, as

0:59:31.840 --> 0:59:34.640
<v Speaker 1>an actor, if you know what you want, you just

0:59:34.680 --> 0:59:37.520
<v Speaker 1>go for it. And you don't even you're not look,

0:59:37.640 --> 0:59:40.960
<v Speaker 1>you're not concerned about anything else. It's just I had

0:59:41.000 --> 0:59:44.240
<v Speaker 1>a mission and I get a crushed on this boy.

0:59:44.640 --> 0:59:46.560
<v Speaker 1>And I didn't have a real big crusion, not like

0:59:46.640 --> 0:59:50.400
<v Speaker 1>with Rusty. But he wasn't yet even younger than my son.

0:59:50.440 --> 0:59:53.160
<v Speaker 1>And I had to kiss him and to sit in

0:59:53.160 --> 0:59:57.040
<v Speaker 1>the bed and lenore and kiss him and home sunda right.

0:59:57.720 --> 1:00:02.439
<v Speaker 1>But other than that, you know, really it was I'm

1:00:02.560 --> 1:00:04.400
<v Speaker 1>very proud of painter. If you haven't seen it, I

1:00:04.800 --> 1:00:08.240
<v Speaker 1>think you'll be pleasantly surprised. But it was such that

1:00:08.360 --> 1:00:11.160
<v Speaker 1>when we did the screening, John was staying next to

1:00:11.200 --> 1:00:14.360
<v Speaker 1>me and we were done and everybody was going, oh

1:00:14.400 --> 1:00:17.120
<v Speaker 1>my god, we're all gladding and everything like that. And

1:00:17.200 --> 1:00:21.720
<v Speaker 1>John said, uh, I'm a little afraid to drive home

1:00:21.760 --> 1:00:29.160
<v Speaker 1>with you. That's how well well I scared him. And

1:00:29.280 --> 1:00:32.320
<v Speaker 1>my brother said, oh, we saw mom, and there we

1:00:32.400 --> 1:00:35.919
<v Speaker 1>saw this. We know that side of you. I went, yeah,

1:00:36.000 --> 1:00:39.760
<v Speaker 1>my kids know that side. That's pretty mean, but I

1:00:39.800 --> 1:00:42.120
<v Speaker 1>was also in love and it's really nice way to

1:00:42.200 --> 1:00:45.840
<v Speaker 1>play both things. I didn't judge myself, but you don't

1:00:45.920 --> 1:00:48.600
<v Speaker 1>judge your character. So as far as I was concerned,

1:00:48.640 --> 1:00:50.680
<v Speaker 1>I was just it by just playing. It's like doing

1:00:50.720 --> 1:00:53.480
<v Speaker 1>Amanda and glass managery that I did at the Taper

1:00:54.200 --> 1:00:57.960
<v Speaker 1>and I was in heaven because I was doing Tennessee

1:00:57.960 --> 1:00:59.720
<v Speaker 1>Williams and I was playing a banda and glass Man

1:00:59.840 --> 1:01:04.240
<v Speaker 1>I drink. And you never judge your character, you, I mean,

1:01:04.280 --> 1:01:06.560
<v Speaker 1>he wrote so well, I didn't have any issues of

1:01:06.720 --> 1:01:10.360
<v Speaker 1>how to do it. It's because I just thought this.

1:01:10.920 --> 1:01:15.560
<v Speaker 1>I as far as I'm concerned, I'm right. I know everything.

1:01:16.240 --> 1:01:18.360
<v Speaker 1>And in a way I think I use that same

1:01:18.400 --> 1:01:20.880
<v Speaker 1>thing in Boy Musical too. I think that on a

1:01:21.000 --> 1:01:24.840
<v Speaker 1>much less dramatic level, there's a certain thing that just says,

1:01:25.400 --> 1:01:29.120
<v Speaker 1>I know it's best and you'll just have to come around.

1:01:29.560 --> 1:01:34.160
<v Speaker 1>That sounds a lot like will very similar, very similar. Yes,

1:01:35.560 --> 1:01:37.720
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't mean I don't want to please people. I do.

1:01:37.840 --> 1:01:40.400
<v Speaker 1>It's a terrible thing, but I want to be liked.

1:01:41.040 --> 1:01:43.960
<v Speaker 1>But when it comes right down to it to my

1:01:44.040 --> 1:01:46.720
<v Speaker 1>husband and people, I just pretty much sure that I'm

1:01:46.760 --> 1:01:50.640
<v Speaker 1>the right one. Yeah. Yeah, Well Betsy, thank you so

1:01:50.760 --> 1:01:53.760
<v Speaker 1>much for coming on the pod with us today, and

1:01:54.480 --> 1:01:57.920
<v Speaker 1>I hope that you know how loved and appreciated you

1:01:57.920 --> 1:02:01.000
<v Speaker 1>are by every fan of boy It's World, but especially

1:02:01.080 --> 1:02:03.680
<v Speaker 1>the three of us here on this podcast, and we

1:02:03.760 --> 1:02:07.360
<v Speaker 1>hope that you feel like you are given more shine

1:02:07.400 --> 1:02:09.600
<v Speaker 1>on this podcast, certainly than you were and maybe some

1:02:09.640 --> 1:02:12.160
<v Speaker 1>of the earlier seasons or any of the seasons of

1:02:12.160 --> 1:02:15.880
<v Speaker 1>Boy Meat's World, because you are just so appreciative. We

1:02:15.920 --> 1:02:18.800
<v Speaker 1>are so appreciative of you, and you are so appreciated.

1:02:18.920 --> 1:02:21.840
<v Speaker 1>So um, thank you for coming on and letting us

1:02:21.880 --> 1:02:25.840
<v Speaker 1>chat with you. We love you, Betty, This is honor.

1:02:26.000 --> 1:02:28.560
<v Speaker 1>I adore you all, I miss you, and I wish

1:02:28.560 --> 1:02:30.720
<v Speaker 1>we could see each other more often. So keep me,

1:02:31.200 --> 1:02:34.920
<v Speaker 1>keep me in touch. Yes we will, and you so much.

1:02:35.200 --> 1:02:43.640
<v Speaker 1>We love you. Thank you, Okay, I love you, Betsy. Bye,

1:02:43.720 --> 1:02:59.240
<v Speaker 1>Darling Bye. Oh gosh made Betsy cry. She just so

1:02:59.400 --> 1:03:01.560
<v Speaker 1>cried at the end. What happened. I don't know my

1:03:01.640 --> 1:03:03.920
<v Speaker 1>first TV mom though, she's my first TV mom ever.

1:03:04.600 --> 1:03:07.760
<v Speaker 1>That's the coolest thing. And she was because my my

1:03:07.880 --> 1:03:10.760
<v Speaker 1>parents were both lawyers, so they stayed in Connecticut. Obviously

1:03:10.760 --> 1:03:14.440
<v Speaker 1>when I came out and did boy and Betsy jumped

1:03:14.520 --> 1:03:16.200
<v Speaker 1>right into that, like I got you, I got and

1:03:16.200 --> 1:03:17.680
<v Speaker 1>my mom did say to her, like, can you watch

1:03:17.680 --> 1:03:19.800
<v Speaker 1>out for him? And she did and it was that

1:03:20.080 --> 1:03:22.040
<v Speaker 1>And I would go to dinner at their house and

1:03:22.160 --> 1:03:25.200
<v Speaker 1>I got to know her kids really really well, and um,

1:03:25.240 --> 1:03:28.040
<v Speaker 1>she's an amazing woman. She's absolutely an amazing woman. So

1:03:28.120 --> 1:03:32.080
<v Speaker 1>I love is And like, it's totally beyond the purview

1:03:32.120 --> 1:03:35.040
<v Speaker 1>of this podcast, so we can't really go into it.

1:03:35.240 --> 1:03:37.520
<v Speaker 1>But I like when she throws out, like, you know,

1:03:37.640 --> 1:03:40.520
<v Speaker 1>when I would did Tennessee Williams at the Park Taper Forum,

1:03:40.640 --> 1:03:44.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, what, Like, you know, they think it's It's

1:03:44.880 --> 1:03:47.240
<v Speaker 1>the same thing with Bill Daniels obviously, and Rusty. It's

1:03:47.280 --> 1:03:50.200
<v Speaker 1>like when Rusty's like I was with Mine Troop in Scotland,

1:03:50.480 --> 1:03:55.240
<v Speaker 1>I just wanted like episode. Yeah. It's just that that

1:03:55.360 --> 1:03:58.600
<v Speaker 1>these were great actors. You know, they were professional actors

1:03:58.640 --> 1:04:00.880
<v Speaker 1>in a way that we couldn't be because we were

1:04:00.920 --> 1:04:03.440
<v Speaker 1>so young, you know, we sort of showed up and

1:04:03.600 --> 1:04:05.600
<v Speaker 1>we were kind of figuring out what it means to

1:04:05.640 --> 1:04:09.600
<v Speaker 1>be an actor in the process of the world, whereas

1:04:09.640 --> 1:04:13.360
<v Speaker 1>these were full on professional actors who had dedicated their

1:04:13.480 --> 1:04:17.040
<v Speaker 1>entire lives to this perform. Yeah, we totally took for granted, right,

1:04:17.760 --> 1:04:20.320
<v Speaker 1>not recognize. We were just sort of like, this is

1:04:20.360 --> 1:04:24.000
<v Speaker 1>fun and this is easy. And I'm just now now

1:04:24.040 --> 1:04:27.480
<v Speaker 1>that their age when they when they started our show,

1:04:27.880 --> 1:04:30.080
<v Speaker 1>I can see how much life experience they were bringing

1:04:30.200 --> 1:04:32.080
<v Speaker 1>and how much more life experience they were having. And

1:04:32.080 --> 1:04:34.240
<v Speaker 1>I just love the craft of acting. I just think

1:04:34.240 --> 1:04:38.680
<v Speaker 1>it's so fascinating and I love talking they especially the

1:04:38.680 --> 1:04:40.880
<v Speaker 1>way they did it was I feel like that's you know,

1:04:40.920 --> 1:04:44.120
<v Speaker 1>everyone's always saying like why is every every huge movie

1:04:44.160 --> 1:04:46.840
<v Speaker 1>star and everything, every huge television star they're all British,

1:04:46.880 --> 1:04:49.560
<v Speaker 1>they're all Australian, they're all and it's because they still

1:04:49.600 --> 1:04:53.240
<v Speaker 1>study the craft, whereas we in America great approach to

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<v Speaker 1>act American did. American school of acting is completely broken.

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<v Speaker 1>It is completely because there isn't one. It's pick up

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<v Speaker 1>your phone and become an Instagra m star and then

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<v Speaker 1>get a television show. That's I mean, there there are exceptions,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, there are there are exceptions, but for the

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<v Speaker 1>most part, the reason why everybody's British and Australians because

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<v Speaker 1>they still study the craft of acting. So it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>still an art form that is one that needs to

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<v Speaker 1>be delved into and strip yourself away and built on

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<v Speaker 1>and that nobody wants to you know, nobody wants to

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<v Speaker 1>do that on this side of the pond anymore. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>and they all did. That's what. So so when you

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<v Speaker 1>actually get to talk to them, they're talking about how

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<v Speaker 1>they were there were Meisner students, and you know, Bill,

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<v Speaker 1>Bill never told us that he was a child actor

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<v Speaker 1>when we were there with him. He's working with child

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<v Speaker 1>actors and because he's like, we don't need to get

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<v Speaker 1>into that be an actor, and it was just it

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<v Speaker 1>was it's nuts too now because you're right where I'm

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<v Speaker 1>older now, I think than everybody but Bill was when

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<v Speaker 1>they did Boy And so to look back on that

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<v Speaker 1>and go like, I still haven't studied the craft of

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<v Speaker 1>acting the way I should have. You know, it's like

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<v Speaker 1>what the Yeah, it's a whole different thing. What can

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<v Speaker 1>you do? Well? This was really fun. I love these

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<v Speaker 1>little reunions we get to do. They bring me, like,

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<v Speaker 1>truly so much joy. So when we finished season one

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<v Speaker 1>of this podcast three years from now, we know we

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<v Speaker 1>just I really, I really think it's important for us

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<v Speaker 1>to have like our own reunion where we just invite

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<v Speaker 1>everybody who's been a guest on the show. I'll host

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<v Speaker 1>it at my house. I have it in my backyard.

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<v Speaker 1>But I just like, not only do I want to

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<v Speaker 1>have a casual, non recorded conversation with everybody, I also

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<v Speaker 1>want everybody to see each other again, like like Leon

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<v Speaker 1>or so, when was the last time he talked to

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<v Speaker 1>Betsy or It's like it would be so. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>I obviously at least not living in California anymore. But

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<v Speaker 1>we fly him out and get Seriously, like, I just

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<v Speaker 1>want to have a reunion, Like I don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>get everybody in the same room because it's just so

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<v Speaker 1>would be so nice to see. We've got time. We're

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<v Speaker 1>on episode ten now, we've gotten until like episode one

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<v Speaker 1>or twenty two. We've got a little bit of time.

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<v Speaker 1>But let's plan it. Let's pick a date and start

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<v Speaker 1>sending out invitations so that Lee can fly out with

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<v Speaker 1>his family and we can actually do it. But I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's really important. Yeah, that's awesome. I love that.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll take a picture and post it on our Agram.

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<v Speaker 1>to be recapping episode number one ten Um I'm original. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>Santa's Little Helper, Thank you very much. It originally aired

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