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Speaker 1: So you guys, I've discovered a podcast. Is it okay

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Speaker 1: to talk about another podcast on our podcast? Okay? I mean,

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Speaker 1: I mean yeah, there's this amazing podcast that I've become

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Speaker 1: our podcast. It's called Sixties Songs That Explained the Nineties Wow,

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Speaker 1: And it's this this great music journalist named Rob Harvilla,

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Speaker 1: and he basically every episode he picks one song from

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Speaker 1: the nineties. I mean it's everything you like, you know,

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Speaker 1: Of course, every great song. I had no idea anything

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Speaker 1: about why that was written or the tragedy of the band.

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Speaker 1: It was the guitarist. Was that the guitarist that wrote it,

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Speaker 1: and the guy who wrote that and their other two

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Speaker 1: hits killed himself. Yes, yes, I mean, I mean, unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: like a lot of things in the music, like the

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Speaker 1: a lot of depression, a lot of but anyway, you know,

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Speaker 1: for anybody who grew up in the nineties or who

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Speaker 1: talked about before or like in relation to our show,

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Speaker 1: it was still like a monoculture, right, So everybody was

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Speaker 1: these um the backstories. And he's just a very funny,

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Speaker 1: It was like one of those things I just completely missed,

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Speaker 1: the history, like I just I knew some of the songs,

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Speaker 1: the crying the back story. There's a great documentary about

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Speaker 1: It's pretty phenomenal about their rise to fame and then

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Speaker 1: Jensen and I were just talking about songs that you

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Speaker 1: back and re listen to them and you're like, whoa,

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Speaker 1: that's what that was about. Like remember the song closing time?

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Speaker 1: Of course? Of course? Every okay, right, and that's what

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Speaker 1: you think it's about, right, It's actually about watching the

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Speaker 1: birth of his child. Okay, the baby is out. You

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Speaker 1: calculated also because like I love that, Like every couple

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Speaker 1: of years there's just a song about like drinking or bars,

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Speaker 1: it's like it's always going to have a place, like

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Speaker 1: exactly five years where you couldn't go to a bar

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Speaker 1: be like shots. Remember the song shots? Shots? Oh my god,

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Speaker 1: It is? It is incredible. I absolutely love it. But

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Speaker 1: exactly that's my seventies running song. I have the Tiger.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Danielle, if you want to, if you want

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Speaker 1: to do an episode that is like you're talking about,

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Speaker 1: daniel where you discover what it's really about and so

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Speaker 1: Righteous Gemstones and she zooms with her childhood best friend

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Speaker 1: it funny? So uh, Welcome to pod Meets World. I'm

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Speaker 1: actually that leads me to my next question, because we

424
00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,199
Speaker 1: have talked about it a lot that in we are

425
00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:21,200
Speaker 1: watching today, we're watching episode one ten, so we're ten

426
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:25,880
Speaker 1: episodes into the first season, and there have been many

427
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:31,840
Speaker 1: very heavy Alan and Corey episodes, lots of deep stuff

428
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,560
Speaker 1: for them to go into. And we've talked a lot

429
00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:37,399
Speaker 1: about the fact that it felt like there were some

430
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,200
Speaker 1: missed opportunities where some of that could have gone to you,

431
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:43,440
Speaker 1: where we could have learned more about you and your backstory.

432
00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:47,160
Speaker 1: And so do you remember feeling like you were getting

433
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:49,159
Speaker 1: the short end of the stick as an actor and

434
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,080
Speaker 1: did you ever talk to Michael about it or the

435
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:53,480
Speaker 1: other writers about things you wanted to do or or

436
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:56,320
Speaker 1: how you wanted your character to be involved more. I

437
00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:59,440
Speaker 1: appreciate you asking that, because yes, that was very hard

438
00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:03,800
Speaker 1: for me, really hard. And I'm the only girl of

439
00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 1: three boys growing up, so I'm used to that, but

440
00:25:06,560 --> 00:25:11,560
Speaker 1: not to be um. But I did feel, to be

441
00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:16,640
Speaker 1: honest with you, Michael is a boy and the writers

442
00:25:16,680 --> 00:25:20,239
Speaker 1: were all boys at first, and they didn't know what

443
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:25,199
Speaker 1: to do with Mom. Mom was not you know, just

444
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:29,080
Speaker 1: Mom was sort of still in the background, serving them,

445
00:25:29,119 --> 00:25:35,960
Speaker 1: but not necessarily the driving force. Um. They eventually they

446
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:39,320
Speaker 1: started giving me more episodes where it became a little

447
00:25:39,359 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 1: bit more likely, you know, like when you tried to

448
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 1: run away from home and we had you know, Juliet

449
00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:52,359
Speaker 1: there was terrified because my aunt she was so afraid

450
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,680
Speaker 1: of the audience. And I'm going, this makes me look

451
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:58,359
Speaker 1: really good anyway. I mean, I was like, get my

452
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:00,880
Speaker 1: hair really good if she's going to be there. But

453
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 1: that's just a side story. But really it just at

454
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,200
Speaker 1: first it was just really hard for me. I didn't

455
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,120
Speaker 1: know what to do about it. And at one point

456
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:13,840
Speaker 1: there was some of the humor, some of this stuff

457
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:18,199
Speaker 1: just didn't I didn't get it sometimes, I you know,

458
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 1: I didn't that's not that's that funny. Oh just throw

459
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:23,520
Speaker 1: it away, throw it away. So it just sort of

460
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:28,720
Speaker 1: became ins and I went in and out of UM

461
00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:32,600
Speaker 1: being present in the way that I wanted to be.

462
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 1: At first, I was much more present, I had much

463
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 1: more of a voice, and I was acting, and you know,

464
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:40,880
Speaker 1: there was much more between Rusty and me. Over the years,

465
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 1: as you guys got older, it was more fun to

466
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,240
Speaker 1: have see you guys being your geeky selves out there

467
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:50,200
Speaker 1: in the world, you know. So it was wonderful. I mean,

468
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:53,919
Speaker 1: I had such good relationships with all of you that

469
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:57,679
Speaker 1: I wasn't bothered by that. I just didn't think that

470
00:26:57,720 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 1: the guys knew what to do with me and UM,

471
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,119
Speaker 1: and it was intimidating. So there were times when I,

472
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 1: you know, felt intimidated or quiet, and I did talk

473
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,399
Speaker 1: to Michael at one point when I I think it

474
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:13,480
Speaker 1: was UM like, I didn't really like it that we

475
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:17,439
Speaker 1: ran into you at the hotel and I didn't. I

476
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 1: thought it was weird the PM episode, Yeah, yeah, And

477
00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:25,000
Speaker 1: I thought, Um, I wouldn't approve of you getting married.

478
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:28,680
Speaker 1: So yeah, I never I still I still don't. Yeah,

479
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 1: that's strong. People have strong opinions about that one, uh,

480
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,920
Speaker 1: left and right. Yeah, And I just felt like they,

481
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 1: you know, trivialized my experience of it until I went, no,

482
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 1: you know, I've got a lot to say. And the

483
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,399
Speaker 1: one that you repeat that is so funny when I

484
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 1: confront um Mr Feeney across the street and say I

485
00:27:52,040 --> 00:28:04,480
Speaker 1: don't approve you know, and that kind of thing. Well, yeah,

486
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:05,920
Speaker 1: I mean I remember. One of the things we we've

487
00:28:05,960 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 1: addressed on this show a number of times is the

488
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,920
Speaker 1: fact that, especially at the beginning, they didn't they were

489
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,800
Speaker 1: they didn't know kind of the tone of the show

490
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:17,640
Speaker 1: for everybody, so they were trying different pairs and at

491
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,680
Speaker 1: the beginning, I mean, we see this in this episode

492
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:22,680
Speaker 1: that we're going to talk about later, you know, are

493
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 1: are the one ten that we've been talking about. This

494
00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:27,040
Speaker 1: is where then it was kind of like Eric and

495
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:30,000
Speaker 1: Amy got a little bit of screen time together, which

496
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:31,920
Speaker 1: this was the first time I think that ever had

497
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 1: actually happened, and it was a great scene. But that

498
00:28:37,680 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 1: also led to as the show, you know, kind of progressed,

499
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 1: You and I had some fun storylines together, like you know,

500
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 1: when when Amy's coming to school with Eric, and and

501
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,360
Speaker 1: so they kind of saw something there a little bit.

502
00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,880
Speaker 1: I think from this episode they saw a little kind

503
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 1: of like, oh, this is an interesting pair if you

504
00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 1: did Eric and amy Um, and we had some fun

505
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 1: stuff as the show progressed, I thought we did. I

506
00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 1: think so because you were older too, and because writer

507
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 1: and Corey had each other in a way, and then

508
00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 1: Alan was always giving advice and tell anyone everyone what

509
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 1: to do. So I watched that scene yesterday and we're

510
00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 1: standing at the door with Lily in the bathroom, and

511
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 1: I went, oh my god, we look alike. We do

512
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 1: like we both have the same humor. We were rolling

513
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 1: our eyes and doing these things like what do we

514
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:37,440
Speaker 1: were mirroring? I thought, it isn't that interesting? And I,

515
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 1: you know, I forgot that. That was you were very easy.

516
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,959
Speaker 1: All of you were easy. Can I just established that

517
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,280
Speaker 1: because you know, I had such a love affair with

518
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 1: all of you. But but you and I Eric immediately

519
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 1: took off. And remember back your parents said, you know,

520
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 1: watch out for him. I said, I told your parents

521
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 1: I would watch out for you. I'm sure, I'm sure.

522
00:29:57,800 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 1: Well I think I was. Also I'm the Aaron's age. Yeah,

523
00:30:01,120 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 1: I was the same age as your son. So it

524
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 1: was you kind of instantly were like, okay, so that's

525
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:09,320
Speaker 1: I got you. Yeah, that was very very simple, friendlier

526
00:30:09,400 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 1: than he nice, nice, but it was as you were, Betsy,

527
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 1: how old were your kids when boy Me's World started?

528
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 1: So you had kids at homes? A teenager still at home? Yeah,

529
00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:26,000
Speaker 1: I had Aaron at home and he was junior when

530
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:29,240
Speaker 1: I started. Let's see what you're with it we started.

531
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 1: He if he was my age, he would have been

532
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 1: a junior going into a senior year of high school. Yeah,

533
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 1: he was not. He underplayed the fact that all his friends,

534
00:30:41,200 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 1: what dude, Mom goes, no, No, she's not, alright, don't

535
00:30:51,320 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 1: say that. I mean, he hated that. I was like,

536
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:07,480
Speaker 1: that's going back to amy, you know, being a little

537
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 1: bit in the background and not having as much meaty

538
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 1: stuff to chew on as as Rusty did. As Alan,

539
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 1: we have got to give you so, like, just so

540
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 1: many props because we have talked about it in every

541
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 1: single episode. How and writer made a really good point

542
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,120
Speaker 1: one day where he said, you know, we're now rewatching

543
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 1: the show as adults, and so we are now recognizing

544
00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 1: things on the show that when we were kids we

545
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 1: never paid attention to. And this is with absolutely no disrespect.

546
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 1: A lot of that was then the stuff that the

547
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 1: adults were doing. We weren't paying attention to what the

548
00:31:43,640 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 1: storylines were that we're going on with the adults, and

549
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 1: what the nuances were and how the layers were filling in.

550
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,520
Speaker 1: We were just thinking about where is the where is

551
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,120
Speaker 1: the hard laugh coming? And and those were the things

552
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 1: we focused on. Child you were That's true. We were

553
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 1: very Aty much taught to that that was where the Yeah,

554
00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 1: that that's where the good was. But what we have

555
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:12,479
Speaker 1: all recognized in rewatching the show is how incredible the

556
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:16,080
Speaker 1: moments are that you and Rusty give, even when you

557
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 1: were only in two scenes, or even when you only

558
00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 1: have a few lines, the way you're under exactly exactly,

559
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 1: that's the proof of it. That's exactly the proof of it.

560
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 1: The way like, for example, your performance and Grandma was

561
00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 1: a rolling stone where you are making the muffins in

562
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 1: the kitchen and Corey comes down and says, hey, where's Grandma?

563
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 1: And you give the tiniest little look and you say, hey,

564
00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:49,440
Speaker 1: let's make some muffins. And with just the smallest look,

565
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 1: the audience knows something bigger is going on. She knows

566
00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:56,080
Speaker 1: what it is. She's trying to protect him. And the

567
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 1: fact that you were able to get it across and

568
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 1: and just the amount of warmth and and like you

569
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,840
Speaker 1: are such a you were perfect, you are a you

570
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 1: were absolutely flawless. And so watching you has been watching

571
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 1: you has truly been one of the joys for me

572
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 1: of doing this podcast a hugely well. We also thought

573
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:20,680
Speaker 1: they hugely dropped the ball in that episode that it

574
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 1: would have been a perfect time for her for it

575
00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:27,680
Speaker 1: to be your mother, Amy's mom and not Malan's mom.

576
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 1: It would have just added an entire new layer to

577
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,920
Speaker 1: the thing, given your character more do um and it

578
00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,120
Speaker 1: was just just wasn't done. So, I mean, it was

579
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 1: what it was. But that was something we brought up,

580
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 1: was like, why that was a perfect opportunity right there,

581
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:42,120
Speaker 1: like it was and it was remember these are boys

582
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 1: writing this, Yeah, this is this is Michael's life. There's

583
00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,600
Speaker 1: a lot of it is Michael's experience with moms and

584
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,360
Speaker 1: Gramazon so on. And so I mean, I can't I'm

585
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 1: not going to blame I'm not blaming that has something

586
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 1: to do with it. I'm gonna have to watch an

587
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 1: episode which one was that grand was a rolling stone.

588
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:05,320
Speaker 1: It's the one that Rue McClanahan and and you are

589
00:34:05,360 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 1: just unbelievable in it. You have a you have a

590
00:34:07,280 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 1: whole scene where you you talk about how long you've

591
00:34:09,680 --> 00:34:12,760
Speaker 1: known her and uh, you just you deliver a message

592
00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 1: with like no shame in your voice, no judgment. It's

593
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,399
Speaker 1: really it's truly beautiful. Go back and rewatch it and

594
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 1: and appreciate you as much as we appreciate you. Um.

595
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 1: And in this episode, the one ten, the Christmas episode,

596
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:34,480
Speaker 1: I thought your jokey, laughing, sarcastic. It made me feel

597
00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:37,360
Speaker 1: seen as a mother because a lot of the mothers

598
00:34:37,400 --> 00:34:40,560
Speaker 1: I know are you know if this had really happened

599
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,239
Speaker 1: to their child, would find it impossible to laugh at it.

600
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:46,400
Speaker 1: It would be this is traumatized my child. I'm going

601
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:48,719
Speaker 1: to speak to a manager and you know it would

602
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 1: have been. And you obviously were very concerned about her

603
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,319
Speaker 1: and you want her to be okay. But also the

604
00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:58,400
Speaker 1: absurdity of the situation is not lost on you. And

605
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,880
Speaker 1: the way you come home and tell the story to

606
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 1: Rusty and explain it and start laughing, and then the

607
00:35:03,640 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 1: way you and Will at the door are laughing, it

608
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:09,799
Speaker 1: is just more of your genius. How much of this

609
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 1: episode and your performance in it of laughing through some

610
00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 1: of that stuff was just you? And how much of

611
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 1: it do you think was scripted. Oh it was totally me,

612
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,359
Speaker 1: I told me, And it was totally Rusty. And the

613
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,799
Speaker 1: thing was that the reason we went to that was

614
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:30,600
Speaker 1: that immediately I'm going, you know, we're acting like like

615
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:34,400
Speaker 1: I go, what am I doing? And what am I wearing? Anyway,

616
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 1: you know, I was like, that's boxy thing. But anyway,

617
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 1: I go, oh, God, that's bigger than life. And then

618
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,600
Speaker 1: Rusty says, I didn't understand what this meant, And I said,

619
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 1: here's what happened. But I think what you had was.

620
00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 1: Rusty starts laughing, and then I can't help but see

621
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:55,800
Speaker 1: the humor in it there because we're on the same page.

622
00:35:56,080 --> 00:36:00,840
Speaker 1: And we're baby boomers. Okay, baby booms were born in

623
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 1: nineteen fifty. Baby boomers are hip and cool to the end.

624
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 1: You know, we really are, don't. We have a lot

625
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:13,359
Speaker 1: more going on for us than our parents generation in

626
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 1: terms of relating to the dramas of the children. I mean,

627
00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 1: I I thought it was perfectly natural to laugh, you know,

628
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 1: even though it learned it was totally That's what I

629
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 1: would have done myself. It's great. And do do you

630
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:31,560
Speaker 1: and Rusty both still wear clogs? It's a it's a

631
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:35,839
Speaker 1: fair question. Fair question. God, I stopped wearing clogs. They

632
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:39,160
Speaker 1: were bothering my toes, but he lived in those things.

633
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 1: I just wear flip clops now I got one of

634
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 1: the time. I can't do anything. I don't know why.

635
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 1: It's so salient to me that you guys both always

636
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 1: wore clogs. It was the cutest thing because I I wondered,

637
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,279
Speaker 1: did did one of you come to set wearing them?

638
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 1: And then the other person said, I'm also going to

639
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,160
Speaker 1: get a pair of those, or did you both just

640
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:02,319
Speaker 1: naturally were of those when you met. Well, there was

641
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 1: a fan of earth shoes at a certain point when

642
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 1: we were hippies. And so when you know young parents

643
00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 1: or whatever, and you all have these shoes where you're

644
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:14,400
Speaker 1: the back is lower than the top front, and different

645
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 1: kinds of shoes that are good for your back, we're

646
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:18,799
Speaker 1: standing on your feet a lot. And the clogs I

647
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 1: had were right for that. So it gave me a

648
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,759
Speaker 1: little height. It was a little taller than I really am.

649
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 1: Like that made my legs better. But really we just

650
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 1: both wore these clogs, and it was not planned. It

651
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,919
Speaker 1: just was part of our age group. I just thank

652
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:39,320
Speaker 1: you to tell you the truth. It was very Yeah,

653
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:42,200
Speaker 1: what was your relationship with Rusty? Like Rusty said that

654
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 1: you guys were pretty close and that the four of

655
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 1: you with your spouses went to dinner rather often. What

656
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:51,560
Speaker 1: tell us a little bit about your relationship. Oh, it

657
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:54,960
Speaker 1: was wonderful. Um. I miss him a lot because I

658
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:59,520
Speaker 1: don't get to see him much anymore. Um, but this, uh,

659
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 1: this is just an easy thing. We went mountain biking

660
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 1: together and we you know, I suddenly we were mountain biking.

661
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 1: I kid believe I was mountain biking, but we were.

662
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 1: And I had places to go, and he he even

663
00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:16,919
Speaker 1: moved where I moved because he liked the mountains where

664
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 1: we lived. And remember when we had the cast party

665
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 1: at the house in Montendo and that big house. We

666
00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 1: finally moved out of that house, but he bought a

667
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,800
Speaker 1: house over there too, And then, you know, their kids

668
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,760
Speaker 1: got older. His he just had one baby at the time,

669
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,880
Speaker 1: and so he was behind me in terms of my

670
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,279
Speaker 1: kids were you know, like I said, your age. So

671
00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:43,200
Speaker 1: it was it was an easy thing. We still our friends.

672
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:48,120
Speaker 1: We don't see each other very much, which I miss. Um.

673
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:51,279
Speaker 1: It was awkward in a way almost when we came

674
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:57,240
Speaker 1: back for Girl Meets World because he was directing, and

675
00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:00,239
Speaker 1: I was just sort of I'm not sure where could

676
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:03,399
Speaker 1: fit in. It was kind of weird. So that that

677
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 1: was just more recently where I just got I don't

678
00:39:05,560 --> 00:39:09,560
Speaker 1: know where, you know, what our friendships like anymore. Um,

679
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 1: but we adored I adored him. I thought he was

680
00:39:14,200 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 1: so sexy and so fun and such a good actor.

681
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:21,720
Speaker 1: And when he got you know, when he got bossy

682
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 1: with me, I just looked at him like, don't go there.

683
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 1: You know, most of the time we were on the

684
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 1: same page because we worked off each other and they

685
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 1: wrote us writing, so they're all that flirtatious stuff was

686
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,800
Speaker 1: really there. I mean, that's what you do as an actor.

687
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,239
Speaker 1: You play off the person you're in love with, and

688
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 1: it works and it really shows. And everybody when I

689
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:50,759
Speaker 1: do these cameos, they all just think, you guys were

690
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 1: really in love, right, did you date? You know? We

691
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:59,759
Speaker 1: never had an affair? No, sorry, you know, oh you know,

692
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:02,759
Speaker 1: we didn't do that well the thing. But again, if

693
00:40:02,800 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 1: we're talking about pairing up, I mean, the parents are

694
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 1: the only set pair when the show starts, so it's like,

695
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:12,640
Speaker 1: if there's not chemistry between that pair, that's not going

696
00:40:12,680 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 1: to be a I mean again. Matt McCoy have seen

697
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:16,799
Speaker 1: him in a number of things. Is a fine actor.

698
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:18,719
Speaker 1: I've seen him and he's done a ton of things

699
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,240
Speaker 1: for years and years and years. But you and Rusty

700
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:24,319
Speaker 1: the second year on screen in the pilot episode, I

701
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 1: mean the second you see them, boom, couple like you

702
00:40:28,040 --> 00:40:30,640
Speaker 1: just know right there. It's that you had that instantly

703
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 1: the couple feel, um, yeah, did you have at least

704
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:36,319
Speaker 1: you might not have had an affair, but did you

705
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 1: at least have a little bit of a crush on Rusty.

706
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 1: I'm just a huge crush, but not like out of control.

707
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:49,279
Speaker 1: It wasn't like do I dare you know? It was

708
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:53,280
Speaker 1: never like that. It was just had such fun chemistry.

709
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:57,840
Speaker 1: There was one time where we had to really kiss

710
00:40:58,840 --> 00:41:04,120
Speaker 1: and rock Corey's videoing. We've seen the episode. Yes, so

711
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:09,799
Speaker 1: the the writers okay are watching this go down and

712
00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 1: he says, now, come on, you got you know our

713
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,640
Speaker 1: director Kimes like me, do you have to really kiss her?

714
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:18,680
Speaker 1: Because you know, instead of just this little thing. So

715
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 1: I'm kind a thing of ice cream in my lap

716
00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 1: and he starts to kiss me and the ice cream

717
00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:34,280
Speaker 1: stays oh the bowl, we're saying, because we're sharing ice cream.

718
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 1: It's like, huh what And then we get caught and

719
00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 1: they come in and they're laughing their pants up, going

720
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 1: we need to get the ice creams, and they were

721
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:51,160
Speaker 1: all all the girls were so envying me to kids,

722
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:55,399
Speaker 1: trusting us like that, and it was really great. I'll

723
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 1: never forget. It was like, and it's usually it's embarrassing

724
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:01,160
Speaker 1: if you have to kill it's a stranger, you know,

725
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:02,879
Speaker 1: or I think they had to do it before, We've

726
00:42:02,920 --> 00:42:06,520
Speaker 1: all had to do it. But this this was embarrassing.

727
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:10,239
Speaker 1: But once we got into it, it was like, well,

728
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:12,160
Speaker 1: this is what it would be like. I don't know,

729
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:15,919
Speaker 1: it just was fun. It's just a fun story when

730
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,920
Speaker 1: I spilled the ice cream. Kind of kind of a

731
00:42:18,920 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 1: general question and because so much of like rewatching the

732
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,799
Speaker 1: show for us and talking about our experience has been

733
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:29,400
Speaker 1: you know, just realizing how little experience the three of

734
00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:31,400
Speaker 1: us had walking onto the set of Boy Meets Word, like,

735
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 1: we have nothing really to compare it to. So I'm wondering,

736
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:38,360
Speaker 1: how did the set compare to other sets, or or

737
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:41,920
Speaker 1: how what was the community of writers and actors, what

738
00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 1: was the vibe? I mean, how was it different than

739
00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 1: Home Improvement? Was it better? Was it more relaxed or

740
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:49,239
Speaker 1: different theater companies that you had been a part of,

741
00:42:49,280 --> 00:42:51,839
Speaker 1: Like in general, what was Boy Meats World like as

742
00:42:51,840 --> 00:42:56,040
Speaker 1: a set. Well, I hadn't been in l A that long.

743
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 1: I've been flown out for a pilot and that's what

744
00:42:59,160 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 1: got us out there, but um for something else. But

745
00:43:04,920 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 1: it was very similar. The whole thing is very similar.

746
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:12,000
Speaker 1: It's it's a way they do it, you know, It's

747
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:17,280
Speaker 1: it's commonplace the way things are handled. Um. I didn't

748
00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 1: noticed a big change except for that here I was

749
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 1: paying full, paid full, you know, it's not just you know,

750
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 1: I wasn't just a guest star, and I felt a

751
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:34,360
Speaker 1: responsibility about it. I got to stay in Tim Allen's

752
00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 1: room when we first shot at and things like that.

753
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:43,680
Speaker 1: But in terms of the process, um, did we did

754
00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:47,840
Speaker 1: we start right at Disney or was that? Was it

755
00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:50,360
Speaker 1: right at Disney and then we went to mt M

756
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:53,440
Speaker 1: after that? It was the first two years at Disney,

757
00:43:53,560 --> 00:43:57,320
Speaker 1: the next two years at KATL, the third two years

758
00:43:57,480 --> 00:44:01,279
Speaker 1: at Radford, and then the last year back at Disney. Right.

759
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:04,200
Speaker 1: You know, it's funny that the Redford stands out more

760
00:44:04,239 --> 00:44:07,480
Speaker 1: than anything else for me to kind of it was

761
00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:09,879
Speaker 1: a great lot. It was such a great lot, that

762
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 1: was and we were rolling by that time, and Generous

763
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:18,960
Speaker 1: was loosening your temper across the sett I remember, and

764
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 1: Seinfeld was right. I mean, we were right next to

765
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:23,520
Speaker 1: Seinfeld and we shot like our opening title sequence on

766
00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 1: the Seinfeld New York Street, Third Rock from the Sun,

767
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 1: Third Rock was right next to us, and it was awesome.

768
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 1: That was a really cool set to be on you,

769
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:33,440
Speaker 1: which was great for you guys when you were older

770
00:44:33,480 --> 00:44:35,840
Speaker 1: and you were kind of, you know, strutting your steps,

771
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 1: super hip. Yeah, we're super cool. Yeah. You all had

772
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 1: those fancy cars and I was still driving my hunt.

773
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 1: In fact, I said to you Will what why is

774
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:48,759
Speaker 1: it was? I think it was you. I said, why

775
00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:52,880
Speaker 1: do you have this? Why were you had you had?

776
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:59,439
Speaker 1: I'm driving this Honda Civic, you know. And you said,

777
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 1: I don't know why. Well, I have two kids in college,

778
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 1: you know. Maybe, but things trickled off a little more

779
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 1: most of it. I was like, I'm nineteen and selfish.

780
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 1: That's why I have miss I kind have cared less,

781
00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:29,040
Speaker 1: you know. It wasn't my kind. Now I have a

782
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:34,560
Speaker 1: very important question for you, Betsy. Are you team sideyard

783
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:40,239
Speaker 1: or team backyard? Do you know what I'm talking about? Okay,

784
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 1: So the little yard that you guys share with pheeny,

785
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 1: do you think that yard is the side yard of

786
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:51,480
Speaker 1: the Matthews house or is it the backyard of the

787
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 1: Matthews house. Well, it looks like a side yard. Oh oh,

788
00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 1: excuse me, she said, looks side so tidy, and there's

789
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:05,839
Speaker 1: a you know, the porch just sort of stops there.

790
00:46:05,880 --> 00:46:09,839
Speaker 1: You don't know what's beyond there. Um, I would imagine

791
00:46:10,360 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 1: it's a side yard and then it goes around to

792
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 1: the front. M M. Interesting. I never thought this before.

793
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 1: This is the first time anyway, So let me let

794
00:46:20,920 --> 00:46:23,799
Speaker 1: me lob something at you. What about the fact that

795
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:28,879
Speaker 1: the front door is directly opposite the back door that

796
00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 1: leads to change your mind? She said, She's just thinking

797
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:40,040
Speaker 1: about it. We're trying to present both sides. Well, couldn't

798
00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 1: be that the front door is on the other side

799
00:46:44,520 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 1: and that's the front yard that takes you to the side.

800
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,839
Speaker 1: I don't know. I just don't think it's the back yard.

801
00:46:53,239 --> 00:46:57,960
Speaker 1: All right. Well, I'm sorry, congratulations you've drafted Betsy to

802
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:01,239
Speaker 1: your team. I am not. It's not a team. It

803
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:04,319
Speaker 1: is just it's it's I don't I think we can

804
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 1: all agree. It's a strangely designed home. I think it

805
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 1: may be a corner lots. Hey, maybe we're both right.

806
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 1: Maybe we're both right. There's not enough compromise in the

807
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 1: world anymore. Maybe we're both right, Daniel, listen, I'm totally

808
00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:22,960
Speaker 1: fine with both of us being right. It also it

809
00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 1: is also team it makes no sense. Like every every

810
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 1: political argument I've ever had with it's like everybody's wrong

811
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:36,920
Speaker 1: or everybody's right. You're always very strong about something, and

812
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:39,240
Speaker 1: Will You're always like no, no, no, everybody's an idiot,

813
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 1: or everybody every exactly you know what it is? I

814
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:47,160
Speaker 1: think it's that it's I had two older brothers that

815
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:49,760
Speaker 1: did they get along great now, but didn't always get along.

816
00:47:49,840 --> 00:47:51,600
Speaker 1: So I was the one who was like, hey, you

817
00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 1: know what, maybe you're both right, we're both wrong, we're

818
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:57,919
Speaker 1: both wrong. Maybe it's all shades of gray and there

819
00:47:58,040 --> 00:48:02,600
Speaker 1: is no one answer to anything. How often are you

820
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 1: still me and now? Will? What is it? Are you

821
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:11,240
Speaker 1: still recognized all the time for being? Wow? And I

822
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:14,880
Speaker 1: love it. I people come up and thank me all

823
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:19,200
Speaker 1: the time for being the example of a perfect mom

824
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 1: and wife and family and how they raised they were raised.

825
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 1: I say, well, I did raise you, and they go, yes,

826
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:32,360
Speaker 1: you didn't. They really feel that. I mean, I watched

827
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:36,160
Speaker 1: Father Knows Fast, I watched, I watched all these things,

828
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:39,759
Speaker 1: but I never felt like Donna Reed didn't raise me.

829
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:43,360
Speaker 1: I didn't feel like that. My mother was pretty wonderful.

830
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 1: But and I also had three brothers and we all sang.

831
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:50,799
Speaker 1: And I came from a family that wasn't stereotypical in

832
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:54,360
Speaker 1: the sense that we weren't always dependent on the TV

833
00:48:54,520 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 1: to define ourselves. That's what I'm gonna say. Dad was scary.

834
00:48:58,200 --> 00:49:00,320
Speaker 1: Dad was scary. I would have liked my dead to

835
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:04,279
Speaker 1: be more like Rusty. I think that better. Well, you

836
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:07,640
Speaker 1: really were like it, just I mean, you were a

837
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:10,280
Speaker 1: perfect mother. I think the way the character was written

838
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:13,600
Speaker 1: had a little bit to do with it, but it

839
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 1: it wasn't even of them. A lot of credits, it

840
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:18,640
Speaker 1: wasn't even them, though. It's so much of it is

841
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:24,640
Speaker 1: who you are. And yeah, you're so grounding. Thank you.

842
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:28,399
Speaker 1: That is very very sweet to hear. And actually I

843
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:30,920
Speaker 1: feel that I was. And when I watched it, I go,

844
00:49:31,640 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 1: you know, I don't like that outfit, but you know, good,

845
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:37,439
Speaker 1: I look like I'm acting, you know, a little bit.

846
00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:39,279
Speaker 1: You know, at first, you're kind of trying to find

847
00:49:39,320 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 1: your like that you humor thing you're trying to over do,

848
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:46,799
Speaker 1: you do it out a little bit too big, but overall, um,

849
00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:50,359
Speaker 1: I just I think that when you asked me if

850
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 1: I talked to Michael about feeling left out or underappreciated

851
00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 1: or underwritten, and I did go to about that, but

852
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:04,360
Speaker 1: it was not until the very end. It wasn't until

853
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 1: after we did the scene where I come to class

854
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:11,719
Speaker 1: and and I think Michael wasn't there or something, and

855
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:14,560
Speaker 1: we did it without him, and I thought, well, this

856
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:17,880
Speaker 1: is finally they're kind of giving me something to talk about,

857
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:20,120
Speaker 1: and so I went to Michael. I think it was

858
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:22,879
Speaker 1: during the time where I didn't approve of running into

859
00:50:22,920 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 1: you at the hotel or something. I felt I don't

860
00:50:25,320 --> 00:50:28,279
Speaker 1: feel like people my friend said, gee, you don't have

861
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 1: a lot to do, or you know, I don't have

862
00:50:29,600 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 1: a lot to say, you know, at different times over

863
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 1: the years, and I said, you know, that's kinding to

864
00:50:33,760 --> 00:50:35,880
Speaker 1: bother me. So I went to Michael about it, and

865
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:39,520
Speaker 1: he said, I said, I don't think people take what

866
00:50:39,640 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 1: I feel or think seriously enough. I think the woman's

867
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:45,440
Speaker 1: voice here is not being heard. But it took me

868
00:50:45,800 --> 00:50:48,600
Speaker 1: years to get the courage up to do that. And

869
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:56,320
Speaker 1: he said, everyone loves you, and I said, well, that's nice,

870
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 1: that's great, but I'm not you know, I'm not sure

871
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:02,560
Speaker 1: you're really getting I think that that altered his thinking

872
00:51:02,600 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 1: a little bit about how things were done after that,

873
00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 1: But it wasn't until really years later where I watched

874
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:13,640
Speaker 1: something that we were doing and I went, you know,

875
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:16,440
Speaker 1: well that beat in this. I'm not as bad in

876
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:18,719
Speaker 1: this as I thought, you know, just because I didn't

877
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 1: have a lot to do, you know, I underestimated. And

878
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:25,560
Speaker 1: I went bed and he said, you were wonderful. You

879
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:29,400
Speaker 1: made it happen. You did. It's just that he didn't

880
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 1: want to take responsibility and the fact that the woman

881
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 1: didn't have a voice in the same way that by

882
00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:42,279
Speaker 1: then I should have had. Yeah. So I did address it,

883
00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 1: but it was a little too late to you know, yeah,

884
00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:49,760
Speaker 1: which is strange because every time there was something where

885
00:51:50,400 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 1: Amy had more to do, it was great. It. I

886
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:54,640
Speaker 1: mean it really was. It was. I can't wait to

887
00:51:54,680 --> 00:51:56,400
Speaker 1: get to some of the later episodes. Again. I keep

888
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:58,359
Speaker 1: going back to that one where you and I had

889
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:00,040
Speaker 1: to share, going to like you were going back to

890
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:02,600
Speaker 1: college and you were reading about I'll never forget that

891
00:52:02,719 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 1: the episode where you come in and you read about

892
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 1: like your first um physical experience, like your first sexual experience,

893
00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:13,000
Speaker 1: and you're reading it to Eric's class in college and

894
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:15,840
Speaker 1: it's Eric going, oh god, my mommy's talking about and

895
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:18,440
Speaker 1: it was just it was so fun and there was

896
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 1: something sometimes you you connect characters that shouldn't work very

897
00:52:22,160 --> 00:52:24,920
Speaker 1: well together and they just worked great. And you know,

898
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:26,600
Speaker 1: they did that with Eric and Feeni at one point,

899
00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:28,440
Speaker 1: but I thought Eric and Amy were that same way

900
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:31,080
Speaker 1: where it was like when they kind of hooked us up. Um,

901
00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 1: the characters really meshed well together. So I can't wait

902
00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:35,920
Speaker 1: to kind of get to those episodes. I'm gonna go

903
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:41,400
Speaker 1: back and watch that's what we're doing, and that's the plan.

904
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:44,600
Speaker 1: You're doing this, you guys. This is so fun. Thank you.

905
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:46,520
Speaker 1: Thank you for coming up with the idea for us

906
00:52:46,560 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 1: to do this. Yeah, this is amazing, Betsy, for you

907
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 1: to come up with this. You did. You came up

908
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:53,120
Speaker 1: with the idea and it was after can in two

909
00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:56,719
Speaker 1: thousand and eighteen, So thank you. Um, Betsy, do you

910
00:52:56,800 --> 00:53:00,560
Speaker 1: have any favorite like behind the scenes story their memories

911
00:53:00,600 --> 00:53:04,799
Speaker 1: you'd like to share. No, you hated all of it.

912
00:53:06,160 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 1: It can go from home improvement. Sure, So I I

913
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:14,200
Speaker 1: have to think for a minute. Asked me something else

914
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:16,279
Speaker 1: and it will come to me because I think someone

915
00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:19,040
Speaker 1: like a behind this scenes stuff. But the ice cream

916
00:53:19,080 --> 00:53:21,960
Speaker 1: story is great. Yeah, okay, let me ask you another question.

917
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:26,000
Speaker 1: What was your first impression of Bill Daniels and how

918
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 1: did your relationship with Bill evolve over the years? Good question.

919
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 1: I was awestruck because I'd seen him do um seventeen

920
00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:42,840
Speaker 1: seventy six on Broadway, So I mean I was already

921
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:45,160
Speaker 1: Plus I loved him and what it was at Saint

922
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:50,120
Speaker 1: Elsewhere when I loved him and everything, and so I

923
00:53:50,280 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 1: felt an immediate affinity to his theatricality, his musical experience.

924
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:59,279
Speaker 1: So we we actually hit it off pretty darn well.

925
00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:03,080
Speaker 1: I was a little intimidated because he had strong opinions

926
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:08,239
Speaker 1: about things, but um, overall we hit it off pretty well.

927
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 1: We liked each other. Yeah, it's nice. One other thing

928
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:13,400
Speaker 1: we want to talk about, which we haven't addressed yet,

929
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 1: is you are, were, and are still a phenomenal singer,

930
00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:21,000
Speaker 1: incredible musician. Yeah, so, how it was cool. In this

931
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 1: episode two, they brought in the piano. I bet you

932
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:31,520
Speaker 1: that was because of you. I'm sure. Yeah, I remember backstage,

933
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:34,560
Speaker 1: you and band especially always singing musical It's always talking

934
00:54:34,600 --> 00:54:37,720
Speaker 1: about musicals. Yeah, you were such a Were you still

935
00:54:37,760 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 1: singing as you were doing? Boy? I mean were you

936
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 1: going out and doing You were doing cabaret stuff too?

937
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:46,280
Speaker 1: Were in my club acts? Yeah? I did two club

938
00:54:46,320 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 1: acts my cycle one I liked the best, but yeah,

939
00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:52,719
Speaker 1: I did too, And I went to was the cinegrell

940
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 1: was the second one on at the Hollywood Roosevelt Hotel.

941
00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:58,880
Speaker 1: Because we went. You invited all of us and we

942
00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:01,920
Speaker 1: invited you all to the one. And I don't know

943
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:04,399
Speaker 1: if it was the second one the first one, but anyway, yeah,

944
00:55:04,600 --> 00:55:07,080
Speaker 1: that's what that's who I am. So what came first?

945
00:55:07,080 --> 00:55:11,279
Speaker 1: Singing or acting? Well? I started singing at birth, you know,

946
00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:15,840
Speaker 1: I mean my family, and I say this proudly. I

947
00:55:15,880 --> 00:55:20,360
Speaker 1: have incredible set of pipes. We inherited my father's voice,

948
00:55:20,600 --> 00:55:24,760
Speaker 1: and I can sing opera and I can sing show tunes,

949
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 1: and I just you know, had an instrument that saved

950
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:30,479
Speaker 1: me when I had went through geeky times. At least

951
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:33,239
Speaker 1: I had that, you know. So I think it's part

952
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 1: of my identity, and so in a way when I

953
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 1: work as an actress now that I think of it,

954
00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:41,040
Speaker 1: especially with this, there's a musicality to me about it.

955
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:44,919
Speaker 1: It wouldn't be surprising if he went, oh, she can

956
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:48,719
Speaker 1: single the you know, just the way I talk and

957
00:55:48,920 --> 00:55:51,840
Speaker 1: you know, stuff like that. But no singing is was

958
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:54,719
Speaker 1: my whole life, and my singing growing up being the

959
00:55:54,760 --> 00:55:59,480
Speaker 1: only girl and the youngest of three boys. Um, they

960
00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 1: were all saying in too, so we had a lot

961
00:56:01,160 --> 00:56:04,960
Speaker 1: to do together. But when often during the growing up stages,

962
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:08,600
Speaker 1: I was just in the backseat singing away to myself

963
00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:12,239
Speaker 1: all the time. And now our granddaughter was visiting from

964
00:56:12,239 --> 00:56:15,719
Speaker 1: Sweden this couple of weeks ago that Aaron and his

965
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:17,640
Speaker 1: family moved to Sweden. I don't know if I told

966
00:56:17,640 --> 00:56:20,640
Speaker 1: you that, which you know, freaked me out, but anyway,

967
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 1: they came to visit for four weeks and she's now

968
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:27,799
Speaker 1: this tree going on four and she's in love with

969
00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:30,879
Speaker 1: this new character that from TV. It's not Lion King,

970
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:35,440
Speaker 1: but it's this Mahunta or whenever. Her name is Mahoya Marianna.

971
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:40,880
Speaker 1: And she sits back there in the carsy just all ourself,

972
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:44,560
Speaker 1: and and I went, that's what I did, and I

973
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:50,160
Speaker 1: kept myself company. I kept myself company by my voice

974
00:56:51,320 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 1: just singing was away for me to know I was there.

975
00:56:57,000 --> 00:57:01,279
Speaker 1: So sure, still not so sure, but I just miss it.

976
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:04,839
Speaker 1: What do you think Amy and Allen would be doing now?

977
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 1: What do you think now thirty years after we first

978
00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:11,040
Speaker 1: met them? What do you think your relationship would be like?

979
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:13,720
Speaker 1: And what do you think you'd be up to now? Well,

980
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 1: I think it would probably be rather similar to the

981
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:19,560
Speaker 1: way we are in real life. Um, I think because

982
00:57:19,600 --> 00:57:23,920
Speaker 1: we're both very outdoorsy. Um, we'd probably buy a camper

983
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 1: and get one of you know, maybe the new Uh

984
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:33,000
Speaker 1: what it's with an s sprinter van. It's a S

985
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:38,320
Speaker 1: S word, it's sprint what the sprinter van? No, it's

986
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:44,240
Speaker 1: it's like one word like spanks, except not spending. But

987
00:57:44,320 --> 00:57:47,440
Speaker 1: it's like that. I'll think of it. And it's just

988
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:50,240
Speaker 1: you know, to haul that around and just go everywhere

989
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 1: within the mountains, go fishing, the um, traveling and touring

990
00:57:54,440 --> 00:57:57,800
Speaker 1: and so on. And um, I don't see us, Allen

991
00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:00,640
Speaker 1: and Amy, of having a ton of money, but we'd

992
00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 1: saved up a bit of retirement money. We could do

993
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:08,360
Speaker 1: that and you know, have a good time together. Luckily, luckily,

994
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:10,360
Speaker 1: spanks aren't that expensive, so the two of you could

995
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:18,480
Speaker 1: easily fit and expensive. This is the thing about getting older.

996
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 1: I'm seventy two and it's like are you You do

997
00:58:21,720 --> 00:58:27,320
Speaker 1: not look so I want to where can? Where can?

998
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:29,520
Speaker 1: All of our listeners are going to want to know

999
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 1: where they can see you now, where they can find

1000
00:58:31,640 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 1: you in You did an amazing movie called Painter that

1001
00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:38,640
Speaker 1: was a total departure from the Amy Matthews character. Why

1002
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:40,360
Speaker 1: don't you tell us a little bit about that? And

1003
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:43,720
Speaker 1: then also where we can find you? Now? Well, um,

1004
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 1: right now I'm here, not right this minute thing, you know.

1005
00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:51,480
Speaker 1: So I auditioned occasionally for stuff and doing these self papings,

1006
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:53,680
Speaker 1: which you know, I'm never quite sure I'm doing very well,

1007
00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:57,600
Speaker 1: but um I do that. But the Painter. But Painter

1008
00:58:58,320 --> 00:59:02,400
Speaker 1: was the surprise that can came to me. And I

1009
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:05,800
Speaker 1: was shocked that it came out so well. I didn't

1010
00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:08,640
Speaker 1: know what that was a low budget movie, but I'm

1011
00:59:08,720 --> 00:59:11,960
Speaker 1: so proud of it because, um they just made a

1012
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:15,120
Speaker 1: big to do. When I had after it premiered, I

1013
00:59:15,160 --> 00:59:17,560
Speaker 1: was on the radio. The radio is all over the

1014
00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:20,320
Speaker 1: country going was it really hard for you to break

1015
00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:23,120
Speaker 1: away from Amy mac throughs to this, I said, not

1016
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:26,960
Speaker 1: at all. It was not hard at all. It's this

1017
00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:31,800
Speaker 1: was easy. This was so simply clear. I mean, as

1018
00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:34,640
Speaker 1: an actor, if you know what you want, you just

1019
00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:37,520
Speaker 1: go for it. And you don't even you're not look,

1020
00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:40,960
Speaker 1: you're not concerned about anything else. It's just I had

1021
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:44,240
Speaker 1: a mission and I get a crushed on this boy.

1022
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:46,560
Speaker 1: And I didn't have a real big crusion, not like

1023
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:50,400
Speaker 1: with Rusty. But he wasn't yet even younger than my son.

1024
00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:53,160
Speaker 1: And I had to kiss him and to sit in

1025
00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:57,040
Speaker 1: the bed and lenore and kiss him and home sunda right.

1026
00:59:57,720 --> 01:00:02,439
Speaker 1: But other than that, you know, really it was I'm

1027
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:04,400
Speaker 1: very proud of painter. If you haven't seen it, I

1028
01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:08,240
Speaker 1: think you'll be pleasantly surprised. But it was such that

1029
01:00:08,360 --> 01:00:11,160
Speaker 1: when we did the screening, John was staying next to

1030
01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:14,360
Speaker 1: me and we were done and everybody was going, oh

1031
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:17,120
Speaker 1: my god, we're all gladding and everything like that. And

1032
01:00:17,200 --> 01:00:21,720
Speaker 1: John said, uh, I'm a little afraid to drive home

1033
01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:29,160
Speaker 1: with you. That's how well well I scared him. And

1034
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:32,320
Speaker 1: my brother said, oh, we saw mom, and there we

1035
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:35,919
Speaker 1: saw this. We know that side of you. I went, yeah,

1036
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:39,760
Speaker 1: my kids know that side. That's pretty mean, but I

1037
01:00:39,800 --> 01:00:42,120
Speaker 1: was also in love and it's really nice way to

1038
01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:45,840
Speaker 1: play both things. I didn't judge myself, but you don't

1039
01:00:45,920 --> 01:00:48,600
Speaker 1: judge your character. So as far as I was concerned,

1040
01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:50,680
Speaker 1: I was just it by just playing. It's like doing

1041
01:00:50,720 --> 01:00:53,480
Speaker 1: Amanda and glass managery that I did at the Taper

1042
01:00:54,200 --> 01:00:57,960
Speaker 1: and I was in heaven because I was doing Tennessee

1043
01:00:57,960 --> 01:00:59,720
Speaker 1: Williams and I was playing a banda and glass Man

1044
01:00:59,840 --> 01:01:04,240
Speaker 1: I drink. And you never judge your character, you, I mean,

1045
01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:06,560
Speaker 1: he wrote so well, I didn't have any issues of

1046
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:10,360
Speaker 1: how to do it. It's because I just thought this.

1047
01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:15,560
Speaker 1: I as far as I'm concerned, I'm right. I know everything.

1048
01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:18,360
Speaker 1: And in a way I think I use that same

1049
01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:20,880
Speaker 1: thing in Boy Musical too. I think that on a

1050
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:24,840
Speaker 1: much less dramatic level, there's a certain thing that just says,

1051
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:29,120
Speaker 1: I know it's best and you'll just have to come around.

1052
01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:34,160
Speaker 1: That sounds a lot like will very similar, very similar. Yes,

1053
01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:37,720
Speaker 1: it doesn't mean I don't want to please people. I do.

1054
01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:40,400
Speaker 1: It's a terrible thing, but I want to be liked.

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Speaker 1: But when it comes right down to it to my

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Speaker 1: husband and people, I just pretty much sure that I'm

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Speaker 1: the right one. Yeah. Yeah, Well Betsy, thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for coming on the pod with us today, and

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Speaker 1: I hope that you know how loved and appreciated you

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Speaker 1: are by every fan of boy It's World, but especially

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Speaker 1: the three of us here on this podcast, and we

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01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:07,360
Speaker 1: hope that you feel like you are given more shine

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Speaker 1: on this podcast, certainly than you were and maybe some

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Speaker 1: of the earlier seasons or any of the seasons of

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Speaker 1: Boy Meat's World, because you are just so appreciative. We

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Speaker 1: are so appreciative of you, and you are so appreciated.

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Speaker 1: So um, thank you for coming on and letting us

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Speaker 1: chat with you. We love you, Betty, This is honor.

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Speaker 1: I adore you all, I miss you, and I wish

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Speaker 1: we could see each other more often. So keep me,

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Speaker 1: keep me in touch. Yes we will, and you so much.

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Speaker 1: We love you. Thank you, Okay, I love you, Betsy. Bye,

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Speaker 1: Darling Bye. Oh gosh made Betsy cry. She just so

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Speaker 1: cried at the end. What happened. I don't know my

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Speaker 1: first TV mom though, she's my first TV mom ever.

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Speaker 1: That's the coolest thing. And she was because my my

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01:03:07,880 --> 01:03:10,760
Speaker 1: parents were both lawyers, so they stayed in Connecticut. Obviously

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01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:14,440
Speaker 1: when I came out and did boy and Betsy jumped

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Speaker 1: right into that, like I got you, I got and

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Speaker 1: my mom did say to her, like, can you watch

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Speaker 1: out for him? And she did and it was that

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Speaker 1: And I would go to dinner at their house and

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Speaker 1: I got to know her kids really really well, and um,

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Speaker 1: she's an amazing woman. She's absolutely an amazing woman. So

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Speaker 1: I love is And like, it's totally beyond the purview

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01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:35,040
Speaker 1: of this podcast, so we can't really go into it.

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Speaker 1: But I like when she throws out, like, you know,

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Speaker 1: when I would did Tennessee Williams at the Park Taper Forum,

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Speaker 1: I'm like, what, Like, you know, they think it's It's

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01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:47,240
Speaker 1: the same thing with Bill Daniels obviously, and Rusty. It's

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Speaker 1: like when Rusty's like I was with Mine Troop in Scotland,

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Speaker 1: I just wanted like episode. Yeah. It's just that that

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Speaker 1: these were great actors. You know, they were professional actors

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Speaker 1: in a way that we couldn't be because we were

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01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:03,440
Speaker 1: so young, you know, we sort of showed up and

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01:04:03,600 --> 01:04:05,600
Speaker 1: we were kind of figuring out what it means to

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Speaker 1: be an actor in the process of the world, whereas

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Speaker 1: these were full on professional actors who had dedicated their

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Speaker 1: entire lives to this perform. Yeah, we totally took for granted, right,

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Speaker 1: not recognize. We were just sort of like, this is

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Speaker 1: fun and this is easy. And I'm just now now

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Speaker 1: that their age when they when they started our show,

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Speaker 1: I can see how much life experience they were bringing

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Speaker 1: and how much more life experience they were having. And

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Speaker 1: I just love the craft of acting. I just think

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Speaker 1: it's so fascinating and I love talking they especially the

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Speaker 1: way they did it was I feel like that's you know,

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Speaker 1: everyone's always saying like why is every every huge movie

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Speaker 1: star and everything, every huge television star they're all British,

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Speaker 1: they're all Australian, they're all and it's because they still

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Speaker 1: study the craft, whereas we in America great approach to

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Speaker 1: act American did. American school of acting is completely broken.

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Speaker 1: It is completely because there isn't one. It's pick up

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Speaker 1: your phone and become an Instagra m star and then

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Speaker 1: get a television show. That's I mean, there there are exceptions,

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Speaker 1: of course, there are there are exceptions, but for the

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Speaker 1: most part, the reason why everybody's British and Australians because

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Speaker 1: they still study the craft of acting. So it's it's

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Speaker 1: still an art form that is one that needs to

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Speaker 1: be delved into and strip yourself away and built on

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Speaker 1: and that nobody wants to you know, nobody wants to

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Speaker 1: do that on this side of the pond anymore. Um,

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Speaker 1: and they all did. That's what. So so when you

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Speaker 1: actually get to talk to them, they're talking about how

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Speaker 1: they were there were Meisner students, and you know, Bill,

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Speaker 1: Bill never told us that he was a child actor

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Speaker 1: when we were there with him. He's working with child

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Speaker 1: actors and because he's like, we don't need to get

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Speaker 1: into that be an actor, and it was just it

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Speaker 1: was it's nuts too now because you're right where I'm

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Speaker 1: older now, I think than everybody but Bill was when

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Speaker 1: they did Boy And so to look back on that

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Speaker 1: and go like, I still haven't studied the craft of

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Speaker 1: acting the way I should have. You know, it's like

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Speaker 1: what the Yeah, it's a whole different thing. What can

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Speaker 1: you do? Well? This was really fun. I love these

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Speaker 1: little reunions we get to do. They bring me, like,

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Speaker 1: truly so much joy. So when we finished season one

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Speaker 1: of this podcast three years from now, we know we

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Speaker 1: just I really, I really think it's important for us

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Speaker 1: to have like our own reunion where we just invite

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Speaker 1: everybody who's been a guest on the show. I'll host

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Speaker 1: it at my house. I have it in my backyard.

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Speaker 1: But I just like, not only do I want to

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Speaker 1: have a casual, non recorded conversation with everybody, I also

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Speaker 1: want everybody to see each other again, like like Leon

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Speaker 1: or so, when was the last time he talked to

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Speaker 1: Betsy or It's like it would be so. I mean

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Speaker 1: I obviously at least not living in California anymore. But

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Speaker 1: we fly him out and get Seriously, like, I just

1151
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Speaker 1: want to have a reunion, Like I don't want to

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Speaker 1: get everybody in the same room because it's just so

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Speaker 1: would be so nice to see. We've got time. We're

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Speaker 1: on episode ten now, we've gotten until like episode one

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Speaker 1: or twenty two. We've got a little bit of time.

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Speaker 1: But let's plan it. Let's pick a date and start

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Speaker 1: sending out invitations so that Lee can fly out with

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Speaker 1: his family and we can actually do it. But I

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Speaker 1: think that's really important. Yeah, that's awesome. I love that.

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Speaker 1: We'll take a picture and post it on our Agram.

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Speaker 1: Good thank you all for joining us. This has been

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Speaker 1: pod Meats World. You can follow us at pod Meats

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Speaker 1: World Show on Instagram and please continue to send us

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Speaker 1: your emails at pod Meats World Show at gmail dot com.

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Speaker 1: And as I mentioned, don't forget you March March. You

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Speaker 1: can get your own too Much shirt shirt like I'm

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Speaker 1: wearing now on pod Meats World show dot com. And

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Speaker 1: uh next next episode. Later this week we are going

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Speaker 1: to be recapping episode number one ten Um I'm original. Yes,

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Speaker 1: Santa's Little Helper, Thank you very much. It originally aired

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Speaker 1: December tenth three. Looking forward to that, so join us

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Speaker 1: for that episode. See you all later. We love you all.

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Speaker 1: Pod dismissed. Pod Meats World is an I heart podcast

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Speaker 1: producing hosted by Daniel Fisher, Wilford L and right Or Strong.

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Speaker 1: Executive producers Jensen Carpet and Amy Sugarman. Executive in charge

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Speaker 1: of production, Daniel Romo, producer and editor Tara suit Batch,

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Speaker 1: producer Lorraine Rez Engineering Boy meets World super fan Easton Allen.

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Speaker 1: Our theme song is by Kyle Morton of Typhoon. Follow

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