WEBVTT - Player's Lounge: All Defense All Day 0:00:03.880 --> 0:00:06.320 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:06.320 --> 0:00:07.920 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 0:00:10.240 --> 0:00:11.320 Cowboys. 0:00:12.760 --> 0:00:18.040 This is the Players Lounge, broadcasting live from Dallas Cowboys 0:00:18.120 --> 0:00:20.200 World headquarters at the Star. 0:00:20.920 --> 0:00:26.799 Now your hosts Barry Church, Danny McCrae, Heckma Harrison and 0:00:27.200 --> 0:00:28.200 newly Scrugs. 0:00:31.400 --> 0:00:36.800 It's Thursday in the SWBC Mortgage Studios, home of the 0:00:37.240 --> 0:00:38.479 Dallas Cowboys. 0:00:38.520 --> 0:00:39.879 I'm with my compadres. 0:00:39.920 --> 0:00:41.519 But you know what we're doing, you rocking with the 0:00:41.560 --> 0:00:45.320 best I am Heck Maharrison and at the desk per usual, 0:00:45.400 --> 0:00:48.280 two former players, Danny McCrae and BC. The place to 0:00:48.280 --> 0:00:52.400 be Barry Church is up in here, up in here, fellows, 0:00:52.400 --> 0:00:53.360 how y'all feeling today? 0:00:53.640 --> 0:00:54.880 Feeling good? Looking good? 0:00:54.880 --> 0:00:56.920 Got me a little workout in in between. You know, 0:00:57.080 --> 0:00:59.200 since a minute, it's a beautiful day out here. It's 0:00:59.200 --> 0:01:01.600 a beautifulay break right now. I tell you, I'm about 0:01:01.600 --> 0:01:02.520 to complain for a second. 0:01:02.600 --> 0:01:03.800 What's going on? Man? 0:01:03.880 --> 0:01:05.000 What you got going on? 0:01:05.040 --> 0:01:05.240 Man? 0:01:05.280 --> 0:01:08.280 This three year old we win crying more than I 0:01:08.400 --> 0:01:11.880 ever heard in my luck. Bro five forty five this 0:01:12.000 --> 0:01:14.480 morning she said, Hey, I want Can I have my iPad? 0:01:14.560 --> 0:01:17.520 I said no, Bro. For the next fifteen minutes. All 0:01:17.560 --> 0:01:21.200 of her was this dadd that won, my padda, that one, 0:01:21.319 --> 0:01:23.640 my pad. I'm about to put your time out. I'm 0:01:23.640 --> 0:01:25.679 about to put your time out. You can't come on, bro, 0:01:25.800 --> 0:01:27.840 let's do time out of five forty five. In the 0:01:27.840 --> 0:01:31.840 one of the not getting think, I did okay. Well, 0:01:32.200 --> 0:01:33.640 she said she wanted to go to the punkin Past. 0:01:33.680 --> 0:01:35.360 So now I act like I'm calling the punkin Pass 0:01:35.400 --> 0:01:38.680 and tell them to come. Oh, she'd be losing it. 0:01:39.800 --> 0:01:44.840 No, no, I barely have to pick. I'll be like 0:01:44.840 --> 0:01:46.560 I'm looking for the phone. She'd be like, oh, Dad 0:01:48.680 --> 0:01:52.800 talking about it. I'm gonna tell you that work. That 0:01:53.040 --> 0:01:56.480 right there works till about eight and then it's like, 0:01:57.120 --> 0:02:03.440 call the punking Past. I got five more years. Yeah, 0:02:05.400 --> 0:02:09.040 forty five, Bro, I we're talking about mad. You so 0:02:09.200 --> 0:02:13.880 we got so mad? We get up. We're getting back 0:02:13.919 --> 0:02:15.400 in there. Go get up. Hey man. 0:02:16.000 --> 0:02:18.679 The players now sponsored by Tostos, the official chip and 0:02:18.720 --> 0:02:21.640 Dip of the Dallas Cowboys. But as we always start 0:02:21.720 --> 0:02:23.760 this thing, man, we started out with a mental checking. Man, 0:02:23.800 --> 0:02:26.399 your boy Channeler Jones is the reason why you better 0:02:26.520 --> 0:02:28.160 check on your people going over. 0:02:28.280 --> 0:02:30.280 I have no idea. That's why I'm checking on y'all. 0:02:30.480 --> 0:02:32.040 D Max, I'm gonna start with you. How are you? 0:02:33.000 --> 0:02:34.639 Was that the mental check in right there? You know, 0:02:34.919 --> 0:02:35.720 I'm good. I'm good. 0:02:35.760 --> 0:02:38.040 I ain't no no que, no conspiracy stuff like, but man, 0:02:38.240 --> 0:02:39.120 I'm all right, I'm okay. 0:02:39.120 --> 0:02:41.320 It's more parenthood. I understand. That's what it is. That's 0:02:41.320 --> 0:02:42.120 why she go to school. 0:02:42.120 --> 0:02:43.680 All right, So I get I get a long time 0:02:43.720 --> 0:02:47.280 with I'm dropping off her grandma house. After we're gonna 0:02:47.280 --> 0:02:48.799 be all right. Now, we're gonna be all You're gonna 0:02:48.800 --> 0:02:50.200 be alright to You're gonna be all right? 0:02:53.200 --> 0:02:53.639 Is amazing. 0:02:53.720 --> 0:02:56.320 Mentals are amazing. Like I said, I got a little 0:02:56.360 --> 0:03:04.679 workout in great, right, you know something going on, but 0:03:04.760 --> 0:03:05.399 you don't feel great? 0:03:05.440 --> 0:03:05.560 Man? 0:03:05.600 --> 0:03:06.000 What about you? 0:03:06.160 --> 0:03:06.320 Heck? 0:03:06.360 --> 0:03:07.200 How we doing over here? 0:03:07.240 --> 0:03:07.360 Man? 0:03:07.360 --> 0:03:07.680 I'm good. 0:03:07.720 --> 0:03:10.120 I came in here in the suit because every Thursday, 0:03:10.160 --> 0:03:12.200 you like last Thursday, you came in here with it, 0:03:12.560 --> 0:03:16.160 you know, the light skin Obama walking off. I had 0:03:16.200 --> 0:03:19.160 to walk, So I said, I'm gonna come in here 0:03:19.240 --> 0:03:23.160 like I got some respect for myself. Yeah, but no, man, 0:03:23.200 --> 0:03:25.240 everything is good. Last night my son had a game, 0:03:25.720 --> 0:03:27.760 and I'm gonna tell y'all. Man, when y'all you got 0:03:27.800 --> 0:03:30.120 a son, you're on your way to having one. Come on, 0:03:31.360 --> 0:03:36.000 put it, you know. But I'm telling y'all, man, when 0:03:36.040 --> 0:03:40.320 you have kids that play sports, it's the hardest thing 0:03:40.400 --> 0:03:43.400 in the world just to keep your patience, I'm telling you. 0:03:44.040 --> 0:03:45.960 So pray for me. I will pray for you. 0:03:46.360 --> 0:03:48.440 Uh man scored a touchdown last night with a lot 0:03:48.440 --> 0:03:50.880 of stuff going on with that, But I'm good hipp as, 0:03:50.920 --> 0:03:54.880 all right, yea, man, the boy is doing his thing. 0:03:55.240 --> 0:03:58.360 But let's talk about men. I got two defensive guys here, 0:03:58.400 --> 0:03:59.800 so we're gonna talk about defense. 0:04:00.000 --> 0:04:02.520 It's entire show today, all right. 0:04:02.560 --> 0:04:04.840 So we're gonna wrap this because I ain't like offensive 0:04:04.880 --> 0:04:07.960 line practices. Yeah, so I ain't gonna We're not gonna 0:04:07.960 --> 0:04:12.240 get to depressive content, all right, but let's talk about 0:04:12.280 --> 0:04:16.440 this Cowboys defenses versus the Patch offense. Obviously last week, 0:04:16.520 --> 0:04:19.160 not to bring up old stuff, the Cardinals pretty much 0:04:19.200 --> 0:04:21.719 had that weight with this defense. I mean, the running 0:04:21.800 --> 0:04:25.520 game was null and void two hundred and twenty two 0:04:25.600 --> 0:04:29.600 yards on the ground for the Cardinals. And everybody now 0:04:29.960 --> 0:04:32.120 is starting to question dan Quinn. But I know one 0:04:32.200 --> 0:04:34.200 man that still says, and dan Quinn, we trust. But 0:04:34.279 --> 0:04:37.640 when it comes to this running game, the defensive running 0:04:37.680 --> 0:04:40.680 games getting those stops. What does dan Quinn have to 0:04:40.760 --> 0:04:44.640 do stylistically schematically to get these to get the job 0:04:44.720 --> 0:04:47.280 done on Sunday, I mean, listen, without me knowing the 0:04:47.400 --> 0:04:49.040 full scheme, I don't want to see it act like 0:04:49.080 --> 0:04:51.280 I know everything dan Quinn doing. To me, what I've 0:04:51.320 --> 0:04:55.279 seen is, uh, you gotta be more technically sound. Okay, 0:04:55.440 --> 0:04:59.760 So if you're going to continue running D line stunts 0:05:00.120 --> 0:05:02.720 right where the guys are spiking in going into the 0:05:02.800 --> 0:05:05.320 gap and they line up on the gap outside, then 0:05:05.440 --> 0:05:07.840 go into the inside gap. You're gonna do that, then 0:05:07.960 --> 0:05:10.400 your linebackers have to be able to cover those guys 0:05:10.800 --> 0:05:13.520 when the linemens start to pull from the other side 0:05:13.520 --> 0:05:15.560 of the formation, so you can't be a step late. 0:05:15.760 --> 0:05:18.200 I imagine that's probably what they worked on for the 0:05:18.480 --> 0:05:20.880 entirety of this week and continue will continue to work 0:05:20.920 --> 0:05:22.680 on all the way through up through the game, because 0:05:23.080 --> 0:05:25.320 if you don't, there's gonna be a lot of power 0:05:25.360 --> 0:05:27.080 which has a pulling guard, a lot of trap, a 0:05:27.080 --> 0:05:29.919 lot of counter, a lot of that from Ezekiel, Ellie 0:05:30.000 --> 0:05:32.640 and Stevenson until you find out, until they find out 0:05:32.680 --> 0:05:33.160 you can stop it. 0:05:33.240 --> 0:05:33.360 Or not. 0:05:33.480 --> 0:05:35.039 And even when they find out if you can stop 0:05:35.080 --> 0:05:35.800 it or not, you can. 0:05:35.720 --> 0:05:39.200 Guarantee you gonna continue seeing it because when you play 0:05:39.440 --> 0:05:42.240 schemes like that, it only takes one person to be 0:05:42.320 --> 0:05:44.280 out of position for it to become a big play 0:05:44.560 --> 0:05:47.000 it right, and you saw it multiple times when we 0:05:47.040 --> 0:05:49.560 played against the Arizona Cardinals. It's just one guy who 0:05:49.680 --> 0:05:51.400 got reached and then all of a sudden, the gap 0:05:51.520 --> 0:05:53.400 is so big that it's just a safety and that 0:05:53.560 --> 0:05:55.640 runner one on one and if they missed that tackles 0:05:55.680 --> 0:05:57.680 a forty fifty yard game, possibly a touchdown. 0:05:57.760 --> 0:06:00.280 So I think that dan Quinn's gonna get right. 0:06:00.320 --> 0:06:02.360 I think some of the schemes that he runs it's 0:06:02.400 --> 0:06:04.159 going to help fix that out that we may see 0:06:04.200 --> 0:06:08.040 a little less, you know, I think you'll see a 0:06:08.080 --> 0:06:11.320 lot more. Hey man, hint, separate with your hands, play 0:06:11.360 --> 0:06:13.840 your gap, and then earn the right to rest the pass. 0:06:13.880 --> 0:06:15.640 Your pass on third and long. I think that's what 0:06:15.720 --> 0:06:16.440 we'll see this week. 0:06:16.560 --> 0:06:16.800 DC. 0:06:17.240 --> 0:06:19.840 I'm with Danny on this one. When you talk about 0:06:19.920 --> 0:06:22.640 the stunts and how the scheme is going. They got 0:06:22.680 --> 0:06:24.520 punch in the mouth. I mean that's playing as simple. 0:06:24.560 --> 0:06:26.920 Arizona punched this team dead in the mouth and they 0:06:26.960 --> 0:06:28.320 weren't able to respond. 0:06:28.360 --> 0:06:30.000 So hopefully this week they can respond. 0:06:30.080 --> 0:06:32.720 But to me, it kind of goes back to Rob 0:06:32.800 --> 0:06:34.480 mayor Nelly's days when we were when we were with 0:06:34.720 --> 0:06:36.320 Rob Manilly as our defensive coordinator. 0:06:36.720 --> 0:06:38.200 Sometimes you just got to play. 0:06:38.040 --> 0:06:40.720 Man or man, you know, bone on bone football pause. 0:06:40.760 --> 0:06:43.280 But you gotta do that sometimes. I mean, sometimes you 0:06:43.360 --> 0:06:45.760 just got to say, our guys are better than your gas. 0:06:45.920 --> 0:06:48.240 And I understand what we're going with with dan Quinn's 0:06:48.279 --> 0:06:50.320 defense and a lot of stunting, and it is pressed 0:06:50.360 --> 0:06:52.599 been beneficial. Don't get me wrong, Dad Quinn is still 0:06:52.640 --> 0:06:55.640 one of the best defensive minds international Football League. That's 0:06:55.680 --> 0:06:57.640 what makes his defense so special when you talk about 0:06:57.640 --> 0:06:59.480 getting after the passer or these stunts that they have 0:06:59.600 --> 0:07:01.960 going in like a Parsons flashing in and out. But 0:07:02.120 --> 0:07:05.000 sometimes when the team is just wanting to dominate you 0:07:05.120 --> 0:07:06.760 on the ground, sometimes you just gotta be like, hey, 0:07:06.800 --> 0:07:08.840 line up in your gap and whoop the opposing man 0:07:08.920 --> 0:07:11.320 across from you. They say, you know, run defense. It's 0:07:11.320 --> 0:07:12.840 not about scheme, it's about mindsetting. 0:07:13.000 --> 0:07:13.640 And I believe that. 0:07:13.800 --> 0:07:15.640 I believe that it's just about one on one football. 0:07:15.720 --> 0:07:17.680 You getting rid of that guy and going and making 0:07:17.720 --> 0:07:19.680 them play. And if they do decide to double team you, 0:07:20.360 --> 0:07:21.560 you don't have to get rid of the guy or 0:07:21.560 --> 0:07:23.920 shut the guy. Just stand your ground. Don't let those 0:07:23.960 --> 0:07:26.160 guys get up to the second level on your linebackers. 0:07:26.200 --> 0:07:28.400 So that's that's part of the problem that I had 0:07:28.440 --> 0:07:32.440 with this defense. And also we need those second level defenders, linebackers, 0:07:32.480 --> 0:07:33.160 safeties that are. 0:07:33.080 --> 0:07:33.480 In the box. 0:07:33.760 --> 0:07:34.880 You gotta get down here with it. 0:07:34.960 --> 0:07:36.480 I mean, there was too many times we saw on 0:07:36.600 --> 0:07:38.880 All twenty two where guys were sitting flat footed, and 0:07:38.960 --> 0:07:41.200 I think they were slowed down by the reeds they saw. 0:07:41.320 --> 0:07:43.120 You know, like you say before you see too much, 0:07:43.160 --> 0:07:44.560 you see a little, you see a little, you see 0:07:44.600 --> 0:07:44.880 a lot. 0:07:45.120 --> 0:07:45.240 Now. 0:07:45.240 --> 0:07:46.840 I think that's what slowed them down a lot. These 0:07:46.880 --> 0:07:49.000 pulling guards. It was a great scheme by Arizona. Don't 0:07:49.000 --> 0:07:50.240 get me wrong, it was great. You gotta give them 0:07:50.240 --> 0:07:53.000 credit where credit is due. They slowed this defense down 0:07:53.040 --> 0:07:54.680 by giving them a lot to look at as far 0:07:54.760 --> 0:07:57.440 as motions, pulling guards where the counter is going. 0:07:57.720 --> 0:07:59.640 So it slowed those second level defenders down. 0:07:59.840 --> 0:08:01.280 But you gotta get down here at the end of 0:08:01.320 --> 0:08:03.320 the day, and when you arrive at the ball carrier, 0:08:03.680 --> 0:08:05.520 it can't be you know, let me catch this guy, 0:08:05.720 --> 0:08:07.520 you know, wrap them up in and let them drag 0:08:07.600 --> 0:08:09.520 me to the ground. Because we've seen it time and 0:08:09.560 --> 0:08:11.960 time again with James Connor, those leaky yardists. 0:08:12.080 --> 0:08:14.040 They add up when you fall forward for two to 0:08:14.160 --> 0:08:17.400 three cards, it ends up being second and five instead 0:08:17.400 --> 0:08:18.160 of second and eight. 0:08:18.480 --> 0:08:20.120 And that's a huge difference when you talk about the 0:08:20.120 --> 0:08:23.000 playbook because offensively you can do much more with second 0:08:23.040 --> 0:08:25.200 and five rather than second and eight. Second and eight, 0:08:25.240 --> 0:08:28.360 you've fallen right into Dallas's strength, which is the pass rush. 0:08:28.640 --> 0:08:31.360 So to me, when you arrive at the ball at 0:08:31.400 --> 0:08:33.520 the point of a contact, you gotta be strong. Drive 0:08:33.600 --> 0:08:35.480 that guy backwards. I understand it's not going to happen 0:08:35.480 --> 0:08:37.600 each and every time, but you can't let the majority 0:08:37.640 --> 0:08:39.400 of the time letting that running back fall forth. 0:08:39.400 --> 0:08:40.400 For actually, y'all tell me this. 0:08:40.679 --> 0:08:44.960 So if you are the offensive coordinator, right, and you're 0:08:45.000 --> 0:08:47.400 watching the dan Quinn defense, right and you see our 0:08:47.480 --> 0:08:51.439 down four lineman, what number are you running at? And 0:08:51.480 --> 0:08:53.240 if I see those down for a line, I'm running 0:08:53.240 --> 0:08:57.040 at ninety or run at eleven, I'm running eleven. So yeah, 0:08:57.080 --> 0:08:58.679 so until you find out. I think that's why we 0:08:58.800 --> 0:09:00.960 do a lot of those students stunts. When it comes 0:09:01.000 --> 0:09:03.040 to whatever side of Mike is on right, when he's 0:09:03.080 --> 0:09:04.960 lined up over the three technique stuff like that, it's 0:09:05.040 --> 0:09:06.520 harder for him to be able to do that. But 0:09:06.559 --> 0:09:08.800 if you're lined up at the end and he does that, 0:09:08.960 --> 0:09:11.720 it shortens the edge, and then that linebacker who's playing 0:09:11.760 --> 0:09:15.800 over there has to be very aware of how fast 0:09:15.880 --> 0:09:17.560 that ball and the lineman can get up on him 0:09:17.600 --> 0:09:21.320 because that essentially gives the tackle a free go up 0:09:21.360 --> 0:09:24.040 to the next level. So that's what makes it difficult, 0:09:24.160 --> 0:09:25.719 and I think we're going to see a lot of that. 0:09:26.040 --> 0:09:29.200 If Michael Parsons lines up at the right defensive end 0:09:29.280 --> 0:09:31.240 the offensive left, you're going to see a lot of 0:09:31.320 --> 0:09:33.679 runs go that way because ninety has been playing hell 0:09:34.280 --> 0:09:35.720 hell of great football. 0:09:36.200 --> 0:09:37.640 And when it comes to the run game and you. 0:09:37.679 --> 0:09:40.199 Made an examp, my bad, you made an example of it. 0:09:40.280 --> 0:09:41.480 I think it was last week or a couple of 0:09:41.480 --> 0:09:43.280 weeks ago. When you talk about that down down in 0:09:43.320 --> 0:09:45.319 the round. Okay, so that means a d tackle. The 0:09:45.400 --> 0:09:47.920 DM they stunting down one gap, they're going closer to 0:09:47.960 --> 0:09:49.839 the center. Then the de offensive end is going down 0:09:49.880 --> 0:09:51.240 to the guard and then you have to have that 0:09:51.400 --> 0:09:56.320 linebacker wrap around. That's extremely hard to do defensively. I mean, 0:09:56.320 --> 0:09:58.480 the only guy that I've seen really master that with 0:09:58.720 --> 0:10:01.199 Sean Lee. He was excellent at that. He saw that 0:10:01.320 --> 0:10:03.800 down down, Oh let me beat this offensive tackle. That's 0:10:04.000 --> 0:10:06.000 really hard to do, and I think that's slowing down 0:10:06.040 --> 0:10:06.680 the second level. 0:10:06.720 --> 0:10:09.400 But that's what I'm telling about the mont Clark was like, 0:10:09.400 --> 0:10:10.880 it's gonna be hard for him to be able to 0:10:11.000 --> 0:10:14.040 pick up on it like a Lee and it's essentially 0:10:14.120 --> 0:10:16.600 first year starting. Yeah, that's my and that's what brings 0:10:16.640 --> 0:10:19.199 me to my second point. When you turn on the 0:10:19.280 --> 0:10:22.839 All twenty two is it seemed to me like they 0:10:22.880 --> 0:10:25.559 were the Cardinals were capturing the edges. That's where a 0:10:25.559 --> 0:10:27.839 lot of those big yardists was coming from, not in 0:10:27.920 --> 0:10:29.240 the middle of our defense, but on. 0:10:29.280 --> 0:10:30.600 The outside of our defense. 0:10:30.720 --> 0:10:34.800 And do you attribute that solely to Michael because I mean, 0:10:34.880 --> 0:10:37.480 he wasn't you know, the kis of the defense when 0:10:37.520 --> 0:10:39.800 you when you saw these big runs on the outside. 0:10:39.800 --> 0:10:42.439 But it just seemed like that was something that the 0:10:42.559 --> 0:10:47.840 Cardinals had just found that, look, they cannot execute us 0:10:48.120 --> 0:10:50.800 not capturing the edge and getting to the outside. Well, 0:10:50.840 --> 0:10:53.280 when you run those stunts in short stage, it takes 0:10:53.320 --> 0:10:55.679 away the inside run. And then the running back now 0:10:55.800 --> 0:10:59.040 sees that these linemen, these defensive linemen are taking up 0:10:59.040 --> 0:11:00.640 the A and the B gap. So now the sea 0:11:00.679 --> 0:11:02.960 gap is naturally the next spot for you to go. Well, 0:11:03.280 --> 0:11:05.480 if the lineman is up on the linebacker, now the 0:11:05.520 --> 0:11:07.720 sea gap is walled off, right, and then you got 0:11:07.800 --> 0:11:09.920 a receiver coming in the crack that's giving you two 0:11:09.960 --> 0:11:12.400 way goes all over the place, right. So, which is 0:11:12.400 --> 0:11:15.000 why we continue to say, if you're going to run 0:11:15.080 --> 0:11:17.680 those type of stunts, your linebackers have to be ready 0:11:17.720 --> 0:11:20.520 to come over the top and meet those pulling linemen 0:11:20.800 --> 0:11:23.000 at the point of attack, not allowing them to get 0:11:23.040 --> 0:11:26.480 their shoulders upfield, because once they get there, you see, 0:11:26.960 --> 0:11:29.600 for us, if you see a Tyron Smith, Terrence Still 0:11:29.640 --> 0:11:30.880 or Zach Marty coming around. 0:11:30.720 --> 0:11:32.480 The corner and they square and they're square on you, 0:11:32.960 --> 0:11:34.400 it's over for me, it's over for you. 0:11:34.480 --> 0:11:37.640 Got to get them while they're coming horizontally, knock them 0:11:37.679 --> 0:11:39.600 off their path, and then you know, set the edge 0:11:39.640 --> 0:11:39.920 right there. 0:11:40.040 --> 0:11:41.960 And I will say this when we talk about second 0:11:42.040 --> 0:11:44.000 level defenders, I'm gonna to see a little bit more 0:11:44.040 --> 0:11:46.079 out of the safeties when we get this going. 0:11:46.160 --> 0:11:49.040 Because I understand corners, like you know, a man, they 0:11:49.120 --> 0:11:50.920 get paid to cover, you know, I get that, but 0:11:51.040 --> 0:11:53.280 the safeties do us too many times on those edges. 0:11:53.600 --> 0:11:55.760 You've seen they getting reached, and I think the problem 0:11:55.880 --> 0:11:58.959 is it's technicals technical where the coaches. I'm sure they'll 0:11:58.960 --> 0:12:00.839 get them right on this, but you've seen too many 0:12:00.960 --> 0:12:03.000 times where the safety is on the edge against the 0:12:03.040 --> 0:12:04.240 tight end, whatever the case may be. 0:12:04.440 --> 0:12:06.000 They got both arms engaged with them. 0:12:06.240 --> 0:12:07.520 You know, they're trying to lock them out and trying 0:12:07.559 --> 0:12:09.680 to shut them, but you couldn't get Those guys are 0:12:09.679 --> 0:12:10.079 bigger than you. 0:12:10.080 --> 0:12:12.280 They're gonna swallow you up, Pauls. So what you gotta 0:12:12.360 --> 0:12:14.840 do is you gotta keep that one arm free. 0:12:14.960 --> 0:12:16.199 I mean, how many times have we seen it? 0:12:17.400 --> 0:12:19.480 Or Coach Bacon, all them guys, you gotta keep the 0:12:19.600 --> 0:12:20.480 outside on free. 0:12:20.800 --> 0:12:22.000 So at the end of the day, if you do 0:12:22.320 --> 0:12:24.040 get reached or whatever, it's gonna be a holding call 0:12:24.080 --> 0:12:26.160 because you got that one arm flailing out there. They're 0:12:26.200 --> 0:12:27.599 gonna have to be able to get more into that 0:12:27.679 --> 0:12:29.559 run support because last week just wasn't it. 0:12:29.760 --> 0:12:31.360 So when y'all go to when you look at this 0:12:31.679 --> 0:12:34.800 this Pat's offense and you look at their wide receivers, 0:12:35.080 --> 0:12:37.200 and we talked about Bland and. 0:12:42.000 --> 0:12:42.679 Defer to you. 0:12:43.280 --> 0:12:45.439 You're gonna defer to you because this is this is 0:12:45.480 --> 0:12:48.080 a matchup that when you look at the Pats offense 0:12:48.160 --> 0:12:52.880 in their wide receiver room, Juju Smith Schuster still born 0:12:53.320 --> 0:12:56.280 born man Born and you have tight ends and Hunter 0:12:56.360 --> 0:12:59.839 Henry uh you have Gooseki from Mike Gaseki from my 0:13:01.040 --> 0:13:03.679 you know, so obviously last week the wide receiver, when 0:13:03.679 --> 0:13:06.120 we talked about the wide receivers, nobody thought anything of 0:13:06.160 --> 0:13:08.000 the wide receivers. And next thing, you know, these guys 0:13:08.040 --> 0:13:11.199 are free down the field with big games. When you 0:13:11.320 --> 0:13:15.679 look at these wide receivers versus the Cowboys defense. Back 0:13:15.720 --> 0:13:18.040 to this second level that you're talking about, what do 0:13:18.120 --> 0:13:20.760 you think about this matchup and how do you prevent 0:13:20.840 --> 0:13:22.080 those big plays from happening. 0:13:22.200 --> 0:13:24.599 Well, when we look at the matchup with receivers, you know, 0:13:24.640 --> 0:13:27.360 Pat Patriots receiver versus Cowboys defense, I think this is 0:13:27.440 --> 0:13:30.559 a game where Gilmore should be able to shine as 0:13:30.600 --> 0:13:32.840 far as his one on one matchup. As we've seen, 0:13:33.320 --> 0:13:35.960 this isn't the twenty nineteen Gilmore. This isn't Defensive Player 0:13:35.960 --> 0:13:37.439 of the Year Gilmore. He's lost a little bit of 0:13:37.480 --> 0:13:39.640 a step and that there's nothing wrong with that. You're 0:13:39.640 --> 0:13:41.640 gonna have that with age, but he's still technically signed 0:13:41.640 --> 0:13:43.960 at the line of scrimmage. I don't really see anybody 0:13:44.040 --> 0:13:45.839 for the Patriots off the top of my head. That's 0:13:45.960 --> 0:13:47.920 just a burner that's just gonna, you know, give you 0:13:47.960 --> 0:13:49.920 like Hollywood Brown was able to just run away from me. 0:13:50.280 --> 0:13:52.520 I don't see that, you know, style with the offense. 0:13:52.520 --> 0:13:54.920 You got a Juju Smith's new shuster now Bushet his 0:13:55.000 --> 0:13:56.800 last name, But he's. 0:13:56.679 --> 0:13:57.520 More of a possession guy. 0:13:57.559 --> 0:13:58.640 He's more of a guy that's going to hit you 0:13:58.720 --> 0:14:00.960 with that intermediate, that short and I think Gilmour can 0:14:01.000 --> 0:14:03.160 handle that. Born he's a little we got a little 0:14:03.160 --> 0:14:04.960 bit of speed over there. We saw him burn Diggs 0:14:05.160 --> 0:14:07.400 that last year on the double move. So that's the guy, 0:14:07.559 --> 0:14:09.720 you know, deep threat, That's the guy I would lean towards. 0:14:09.760 --> 0:14:11.760 But overall, I see this as a good matchup for 0:14:11.760 --> 0:14:14.360 the Dallas cowbch to get back on track secondary wise. 0:14:14.800 --> 0:14:17.320 But you can't give mac Jones too much time back there. 0:14:17.400 --> 0:14:19.080 I mean, he's not the most mobile guy, but he's 0:14:19.160 --> 0:14:21.040 accurate and he can pick it part of defense if 0:14:21.080 --> 0:14:21.760 you give him time. 0:14:21.840 --> 0:14:23.240 So we're gonna need that pass rush. 0:14:23.400 --> 0:14:25.200 From the first two weeks when they went against the 0:14:25.240 --> 0:14:27.560 New York teams, how they were all over harassing guys. 0:14:27.840 --> 0:14:30.280 But we all know in order to get that pass rush, 0:14:30.320 --> 0:14:32.040 you got to earn the right which is stopping to run, 0:14:32.200 --> 0:14:33.440 which is gonna be a feat this week. 0:14:33.880 --> 0:14:35.920 Yeah, I think you know. 0:14:36.080 --> 0:14:37.920 I don't feel of course, I don't feel as confident 0:14:37.960 --> 0:14:39.720 as I felt when Trayvon Diggs was in the game 0:14:40.080 --> 0:14:42.840 because you automatically just see how much stuff he covers up. 0:14:42.840 --> 0:14:44.400 And I'm not talking about running game. I'm just saying, 0:14:44.440 --> 0:14:46.640 a man, don't throw over the at seven because if 0:14:46.640 --> 0:14:48.000 you do it, he might take it back to the 0:14:48.080 --> 0:14:50.400 house and that'll be a score for our defense. Like 0:14:50.520 --> 0:14:55.800 you said, Stepan, I still feel that Duran Bland played 0:14:55.840 --> 0:14:59.280 the best of our dB group in that game, technique wise, 0:15:00.040 --> 0:15:01.880 when he's in the press technique because he gets his 0:15:02.000 --> 0:15:04.640 hands on them and he done, he disrupts their timing. 0:15:05.000 --> 0:15:07.280 So I enjoyed watching that. But I still think that 0:15:07.360 --> 0:15:09.440 this is gonna be a test for us, right. I 0:15:09.440 --> 0:15:11.240 think it's gonna be a test because I think we're 0:15:11.280 --> 0:15:13.840 gonna have to put a lot of effort into stopping 0:15:13.880 --> 0:15:15.920 the run, and that opens you up to play action 0:15:16.400 --> 0:15:19.040 and man and man coverage. Right then play action essentially 0:15:19.120 --> 0:15:21.080 by yourself unless we start running cover two and cover 0:15:21.200 --> 0:15:22.960 three that often and then. 0:15:22.920 --> 0:15:23.400 Man the man. 0:15:23.600 --> 0:15:26.320 It's just you and them and mac Jones can complete 0:15:26.360 --> 0:15:28.680 passes all right, So we're not I want to say 0:15:28.720 --> 0:15:31.480 that like we can't born. We know Juju can catch, 0:15:32.120 --> 0:15:35.160 can catch some balls. He's a serviceable wide receiver, and 0:15:35.200 --> 0:15:37.880 I think we have serviceable defensive backs back there. So 0:15:38.200 --> 0:15:40.280 I still think it's gonna be It's gonna be a 0:15:40.480 --> 0:15:42.960 nice matchup for us. We should win it if we 0:15:43.080 --> 0:15:45.200 do what we're supposed to do and stopping to run. 0:15:45.600 --> 0:15:47.880 But it's still gonna be interesting to watch to see 0:15:47.920 --> 0:15:49.880 how we want, how we respond from what happened to 0:15:50.000 --> 0:15:52.680 us last week anyways, So good to see what we 0:15:52.760 --> 0:15:54.360 have moving forward in the season. Do you think that 0:15:54.400 --> 0:15:57.000 offensive coordinators, now that they've seen and step Fank givemore 0:15:57.040 --> 0:16:00.440 hands lost that step are going to start to him 0:16:00.480 --> 0:16:03.120 a little bit more because now when you with Diggs, 0:16:03.480 --> 0:16:06.600 you had a tandem where, hey, if you wanted to 0:16:06.720 --> 0:16:09.360 travel a guy like digs you could and just allow 0:16:09.600 --> 0:16:11.840 for steph Under to do his thing. But now with 0:16:12.200 --> 0:16:14.800 what you're talking about with him and you guys being 0:16:14.840 --> 0:16:17.080 around the NFL as long as you have, does that 0:16:17.280 --> 0:16:19.640