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They 28 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 1: did the prisoner exchange that was long talked about months ago, 29 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:41,960 Speaker 1: involving a Russian arms dealer by the name of Victor Boot. 30 00:01:43,160 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: Victor Boots is a death machine. There's no way to 31 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: put it. He's known as the merchant of death. We'll 32 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 1: see what Brad Garrett knows about it. We're gonna we're 33 00:01:53,200 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: gonna talk in detail about his criminal career. Put Brad 34 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 1: Garrett on first from maybe she Knews. He's the he's 35 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 1: there a crime and terror analyst. Brad, How are you excellent? 36 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: Thank you? Describe Describe Victor Boot because most people have 37 00:02:08,880 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 1: never heard of him, right. Victor Boot is an international 38 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: arms dealer that is just a notorious in the world 39 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 1: of people who track who traffic in international arms. In 40 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: other words, to those of us who look at this stuff, 41 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:29,079 Speaker 1: We've known about Victor boot long before he ever got arrested, 42 00:02:31,160 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 1: supplying surface to air missiles and any other weapon you 43 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: can think of to rogue terrorist groups in Africa to Libya. 44 00:02:38,639 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 1: It just goes on and on. And when he was 45 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:47,080 Speaker 1: tried in the federal court in Manhattan, I think the 46 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 1: government even argued that he well had been responsible for 47 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: the deaths of some Americans because of what he's supplied 48 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: to various groups around the world. So the idea that 49 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: he's now out of prison, I think, you know, I 50 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: wouldn't want him out of prison. I would have had 51 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 1: a lot of consternation about releasing him. However, I get 52 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 1: why we swapped him for Britney Griner. I mean, Britney 53 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 1: Grinner should have never been in jail. And if you 54 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: want me to guess, I wouldn't be surprised if the 55 00:03:23,680 --> 00:03:27,120 Speaker 1: orchestration of her conviction was to put her in a 56 00:03:27,160 --> 00:03:29,799 Speaker 1: position to use her as a pawn at some point, 57 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: like they did in the last couple of days. So, 58 00:03:33,760 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 1: you know, is it an equitable swamp? The answers no, 59 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 1: But you can't look at it that way. I mean, 60 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:42,720 Speaker 1: politics and so many other things play into why we 61 00:03:42,840 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 1: do these prisoner swaps. Why is Victor Boot important to 62 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: the Russians, well, I mean Victor Boots. Apparently it's hard 63 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 1: to verify Victor Boot's background, but it's been reported that 64 00:03:55,280 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 1: he was had been in the Russian Army as an officer, 65 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: may be as high up as a colonel, that he 66 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:08,080 Speaker 1: was in the Russian intelligence Service, which neither one of 67 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 1: those would surprise me. Putin apparently wanted him back. I've 68 00:04:12,560 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: read that Putin even financed some of his defense lawyers 69 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 1: during his trial in Manhattan, So you know he Putin 70 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:23,840 Speaker 1: really wanted him. And now for what reason, I don't know. 71 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:26,479 Speaker 1: Is it possible, you know, something that Putin wants to 72 00:04:26,520 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 1: find out concerning US operations or anything like that, or well, 73 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: my guess is that's remote, But who knows. But who knows? 74 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 1: You know, he's been locked up since two thousand and eight. 75 00:04:39,520 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 1: You know, the d E E in a sting lured 76 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 1: him to Bangkok, Thailand, and then thinking he was going 77 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: to sell the service to air missiles to some folks 78 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: when well they were undercovered to E agents. He was 79 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 1: arrested and then ultimately extradited to the US and then 80 00:05:00,120 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 1: trial and was convicted. Do you know if there was 81 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:06,159 Speaker 1: any reluctance in the Biden administration to make this deal? 82 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:09,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I mean don't know. Yeah, I don't know. 83 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:12,600 Speaker 1: I mean, if I would have been in the room, 84 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:16,200 Speaker 1: what I have raised a lot of issues about Victor 85 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: Boot The answer is yes, and I'm sure they did. 86 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 1: I mean, this had to be not an easy thing 87 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: to do considering who you're going to release. Obviously, everyone 88 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: believes that Britney Griner should have been sent home. There's 89 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,720 Speaker 1: just you know, there's no question about that, and thank 90 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 1: goodness that she has been. But when you look at this, 91 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 1: the Victor Boots side of this, you know, it's that's 92 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:43,359 Speaker 1: a tough call. How he's fifty five. How likely is 93 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 1: he going to get back in the game. Who knows. 94 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 1: I mean, that could be facilitated by putin. You know, 95 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:55,480 Speaker 1: as long as he continues to operate within Russia, he 96 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:59,840 Speaker 1: would be fine. You know, there are some talking heads 97 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: to day that said they thought that he wouldn't be 98 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 1: able to get back in the game. I just don't 99 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: buy that, and so we'll have to see. We'll have 100 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 1: to see if again we might be chasing him down 101 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: the road. Did he operate for the Russian government or 102 00:06:12,200 --> 00:06:16,559 Speaker 1: on his own as just an entrepreneur. I probably both. 103 00:06:16,640 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 1: I don't think that you can operate independently in Russia 104 00:06:19,600 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 1: at the level he operated in. I mean, you know, 105 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 1: the deal with the oligarchs was, yes, you could become 106 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:29,719 Speaker 1: a kazilionaire, but you also have to make me me 107 00:06:29,880 --> 00:06:33,560 Speaker 1: Putin a kazilionaire, which he is. So my guess is 108 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 1: the same sort of version of that probably was set 109 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:41,280 Speaker 1: with Boot. So it was Putin supplying the surfaced air 110 00:06:41,320 --> 00:06:44,840 Speaker 1: missiles for Boot to sell to all these rebel armies 111 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: and war lords. It's unclear. I mean, there's been some 112 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:52,359 Speaker 1: argument of that. I don't know, and my guess is 113 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 1: the FBI may well know the answer to that question, 114 00:06:55,480 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 1: along with other intelligence agencies around the world, but I can't. 115 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 1: I don't know the answer to that as we speak. 116 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 1: What do you think was the breaking point that this 117 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:09,359 Speaker 1: deal finally happened. It's been talked about for months. Well, 118 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 1: you know, these things are all always done via the 119 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 1: lens of politics. I mean, did it, let's go to 120 00:07:17,720 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 1: Putin's side. Did Putin decide Okay, we've got her convicted, 121 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 1: she got nine years, she's in a penal colony. But 122 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 1: I really want Victor boot back. So now I'm willing. 123 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:36,680 Speaker 1: Now that they've quote unquote prosecuted her, that in their 124 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 1: eyes makes her more of a better tool to negotiate 125 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:43,160 Speaker 1: a swap and it, you know, and he's telling the 126 00:07:43,240 --> 00:07:45,640 Speaker 1: Russian people that we're not going to tolerate these Americans 127 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 1: coming in here with drugs. So there's all that sort 128 00:07:48,440 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: of flutter from our side of it, you know. I 129 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, it did happen after the midterms? 130 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: Was that designed that way? Don't know. It's hard to say. 131 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 1: Early on at the whole Grinder case may have been 132 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:05,920 Speaker 1: orchestrated by the Russian government to lead to this point. 133 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 1: Is that suggesting that the drugs were planted on Grinder 134 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 1: or that now I think she's admitted that she had them. 135 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 1: I don't think. Let me be clear, Do I think 136 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 1: that they just front loaded arresting her in the answers? No, 137 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: I think it became an opportunity. She showed up. She's 138 00:08:25,880 --> 00:08:28,640 Speaker 1: a high profile basketball player. She was invited to Russia 139 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 1: to play basketball during the NBA offseason. I think they 140 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 1: paid her like a million dollars to come there and 141 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:39,000 Speaker 1: play because she's so good and talented. So you have that. 142 00:08:39,160 --> 00:08:41,640 Speaker 1: But then they had this opportunity of her leaving the 143 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 1: country to come back here and they find, you know, 144 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 1: these vials of basically liquid marijuana. I guess is what 145 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: it is That she had a prescription, but obviously that 146 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 1: doesn't carry any weight in Russia. So I'm only suggesting 147 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: that created the opportunity to maybe go, oh, look what 148 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: we have now. And then once she got into the system, 149 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 1: you know, I can see from their eyes how she's 150 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 1: an appealing candidate to use in a prisoner swap. What 151 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 1: about Paul Whalen, that's the former marine who got detained 152 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 1: four years ago being concused of espionage. Well, what's going 153 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 1: to happen to him then? I don't know. I mean, 154 00:09:23,320 --> 00:09:26,679 Speaker 1: the problem with that case is they've convicted him of 155 00:09:26,880 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 1: being a spy basically, and true or not, I don't 156 00:09:30,960 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 1: really know the answer to that. They're going to look 157 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:36,839 Speaker 1: at that in a much harder light than they would 158 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 1: be a Britney Griner who basically, you know, had nothing 159 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: but a positive relationship with Russia until this incident at 160 00:09:44,320 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 1: the airport, right, and she had drugs on her versus 161 00:09:48,440 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 1: this man who they think was a spy. All right, Bratt, 162 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:54,600 Speaker 1: thank you very much. We appreciate it. You're welcome. Take care, 163 00:09:54,880 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 1: all right. That's Brad Garrett, ABC News tea analyst on 164 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:02,839 Speaker 1: the trade. The swap. Britney Griner, the w NBA player, 165 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:05,600 Speaker 1: is on her way home, and in return, the US 166 00:10:05,720 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 1: gave an arms dealer back to Russia by the name 167 00:10:07,920 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 1: of Victor Boot. I heard an attorney that apparently he's 168 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:15,959 Speaker 1: like the Russian attorney for Britney Griner. They have somebody 169 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:18,440 Speaker 1: over there. And because when I was reading the sentences 170 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 1: or his quotes, that was in rough English, you know 171 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 1: what I mean. Yeah, but he was saying that they 172 00:10:23,480 --> 00:10:27,520 Speaker 1: think that Whalen, because he was in the military, he 173 00:10:27,559 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 1: can put up with a longer time in custody, whereas 174 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 1: they thought that, and he actually did say and because 175 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 1: she's a female, we just thought she might be more vulnerable. 176 00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 1: And this is somebody that we thought, you know, I 177 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:43,680 Speaker 1: think the idea was originally that get Whalen and Grinder. 178 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 1: That was the Victor Boot. That was the deal that 179 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 1: America asked for, right, but Russia said no, and you know, 180 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 1: they still have it. They have a big chip they 181 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:56,439 Speaker 1: could use for something else. Right. Apparently, remember good old 182 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 1: John Bolton, who used to be in the Trump administration 183 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 1: for a short time. As most people, he said that 184 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:04,040 Speaker 1: Trump turned down to Victor Boot for Paul Whalen prisoner 185 00:11:04,080 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: swap when Trump was president, probably because they didn't want 186 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 1: Victor Boot to be a friend. You know, if you're 187 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 1: just judging the morality of it, you wouldn't trade Victor 188 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:16,319 Speaker 1: Boot for anybody. It's hard to find. I don't know 189 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:19,199 Speaker 1: if you could find it America. Who's contributed to more 190 00:11:19,320 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 1: death in the world than Victor Boot has with his 191 00:11:23,280 --> 00:11:27,520 Speaker 1: arms dealing business. Well, we'll talk more about that in 192 00:11:27,640 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 1: detail when we return again. Nicknamed the Merchant of Death, 193 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:34,000 Speaker 1: a Russian arms dealer is the man that goes back 194 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:37,439 Speaker 1: to Russia Britney Griner comes home. John and Ken kf 195 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 1: I am six forty Live Everywhere the iHeartRadio app. That 196 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 1: was just I told you. I was reading about this 197 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 1: Russian lawyer who was speaking to American media about the 198 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:47,840 Speaker 1: release of Britney Grinder and the prisoner exchange for his 199 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:51,439 Speaker 1: arms dealer, Victor Boot, and he expressed confident that Paul 200 00:11:51,440 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 1: Whalen will be released in the next couple of months. 201 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 1: How I don't know. But he was laying out why 202 00:11:57,880 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 1: Griner was the deal. Although we told you they Americans 203 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 1: apparently wanted to get both Whaleen and Grinder in exchange 204 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:06,520 Speaker 1: for Victor Boot but the Russians wouldn't go for that. 205 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:08,959 Speaker 1: And he was just saying that she was picked because 206 00:12:08,960 --> 00:12:12,319 Speaker 1: of the circumstances of her detention. But you'll get whale 207 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:14,720 Speaker 1: and back. I think the rest of us have been warned, 208 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 1: don't go to Russia. You can't trust him. You don't 209 00:12:19,520 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 1: know what's going to happen. I was nervous as hell 210 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 1: the three days I spent inside Russia. I've always wanted 211 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:29,319 Speaker 1: to go there. I was a little bit nervous when 212 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: I went to China, only because I know they have 213 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:33,440 Speaker 1: a lot of surveillance. Well, not that I was up 214 00:12:33,480 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 1: to anything, but it's just weird. Well, you should go. 215 00:12:35,360 --> 00:12:38,839 Speaker 1: I'll pack for you right now. I should go to Russia. Yeah, 216 00:12:38,840 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: you should go to Russia. Now, Yeah, why don't you 217 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:44,119 Speaker 1: join me. Let's send you to Iran. Tell you are Ukrainian. 218 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:49,760 Speaker 1: He's a Ukrainian pot smoker. We're gonna spend a few 219 00:12:49,800 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: more minutes on Victor Boot, the man who is now 220 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: back in the hands of the Russians. They caught him 221 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 1: in a sting operation at a luxury hotel in Thailand 222 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 1: in two thousand. Innate a notorious arms dealer. His weapon 223 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 1: sails apparently of fueled conflicts around the world. According to 224 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:13,679 Speaker 1: many reports on him. There is a guy named Douglas Farah. 225 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: He's written a biography of Boot and if there was 226 00:13:18,040 --> 00:13:21,480 Speaker 1: an arms embargo, according to the National Review, Boot flouted 227 00:13:21,480 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 1: it Liberia, Afghanistan, Sierra Congo, Libya. Wherever there was a 228 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 1: dictator or a warlord who needed weapons to mow down 229 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 1: his enemies or suppress a suffering population. Boot was there 230 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 1: to make a profit off of bloodshed. So Douglas Farah, 231 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 1: the biographer, I'm going to quote him. He Boot is 232 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:47,319 Speaker 1: responsible for enabling murderous groups to kidnap and train thousands 233 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 1: of child soldiers, use rape as a systematic method of 234 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:57,319 Speaker 1: terror and control torture through the mass amputations of arms, legs, 235 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:01,720 Speaker 1: ears and lips. He didn't actually do that, He just 236 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 1: you know, sold weapons to groups that dos and Farah 237 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:12,800 Speaker 1: says he covered the wars and the victims of Boots 238 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 1: weapons trade. And he said, there are no words to 239 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:19,920 Speaker 1: describe the toll of Boots activities on thousands of people 240 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 1: from armless child amputees in refugee camps, too, scorched rural hamlets, 241 00:14:26,440 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: burned to the ground, burned to the ground by children 242 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 1: traumatized into killing their own families. Business. This was in 243 00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 1: places like Sierra Leone, Liberia and the Congo. Yeah, you 244 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 1: know a lot of African nations. And that's how Boot 245 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 1: made his money. I don't know where a guy buys 246 00:14:48,400 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 1: surfaced air missiles the broker on the world market. But 247 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:57,560 Speaker 1: he was able to u He got nabbed because DA people. 248 00:14:57,960 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: They had informants and they went under cover and in 249 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 1: two thousand and eight at a hotel in Thailand, they 250 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 1: were pretending to be with the Revolutionary Armed Forces of 251 00:15:07,000 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 1: Columbia and Boot was prepared to provide the group with 252 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 1: twenty million dollars worth of now service to air missiles, 253 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 1: machine gun, sniper rifles, and ten million rounds of ammunition 254 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 1: five tons of plastic explosives. That's a deal that they 255 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 1: nabbed him on. He was willing to make back. In 256 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: two thousand and eight, he gave stuff to al Qaeda, 257 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 1: He helped the Taliban in Afghanistan. Obviously along the where 258 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 1: away must have been must have killed Americans? Well, I 259 00:15:36,000 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 1: could not if I'm Biden, not that Biden even knows 260 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 1: this happened today. I could not possibly trade this guy 261 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:49,120 Speaker 1: for Britney Griner. I couldn't do it. It wasn't there 262 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 1: anybody else we have. He was serving a twenty five 263 00:15:52,400 --> 00:15:55,520 Speaker 1: year sentence after being evicted in twenty eleven a conspiracy 264 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 1: to kill Americans, conspiracy deliver anti aircraft missiles, and aiding 265 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 1: a terrist organizations. This is the guy they wanted. That's 266 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:05,760 Speaker 1: the issue, right. They were just folding their arms and 267 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 1: saying it's Boot to nobody. They might be twenty other guys. 268 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:09,960 Speaker 1: And that's why we came back and said, can you 269 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:14,160 Speaker 1: give us Whalen two? No, like they take your basketball 270 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 1: player back or that's it is. It's probably why it's 271 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 1: dragged on from us. Yeah, because he was convicted in 272 00:16:19,800 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 1: a New York jury on four counts, including conspiring to 273 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:32,040 Speaker 1: kill American citizens. That's the attorney general at the time, 274 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 1: and this was Obama's wiener. Eric Holder said that Boot 275 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 1: was one of the most prolific arms dealers. Even the 276 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:44,720 Speaker 1: Obama crowd was appalled and disgusted by him. They think 277 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:49,040 Speaker 1: that Boot also works for Russian intelligence agencies, that he 278 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 1: might be a member of Russia's military intelligence agency known 279 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 1: as GRU. Now if he if he engineers another weapons 280 00:16:56,600 --> 00:17:00,520 Speaker 1: deal for some terrorist outfit that ends up killing dozens 281 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: or hundreds of Americans, was that worth Britney Griner? Would 282 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:06,119 Speaker 1: you tell that to their families? Would you tell that 283 00:17:06,200 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 1: to the families whose children had their arms and legs 284 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:14,919 Speaker 1: amputated out in Africa? Something really gross about this? He 285 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:18,240 Speaker 1: really He was in the Soviet military in age eighteen. 286 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 1: Then when the Soviet Union broke apart, he left the 287 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:25,119 Speaker 1: military and he moved to the United Arab Emirates and 288 00:17:25,200 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 1: started a cargo company that grew up to fleet of 289 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:32,159 Speaker 1: sixty planes, with military supplies of former Soviet states leaking 290 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:36,800 Speaker 1: into the black market. His shipping empire delivered guns to rebels, militants, 291 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:39,639 Speaker 1: and terrorists around the world. You know, well, that's how 292 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:42,919 Speaker 1: he got his start. Russia produces a certain kind of 293 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:47,360 Speaker 1: psychotic man, don't you think, Yes, you'll see a godless 294 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:51,879 Speaker 1: terrorist type. I really mean between between Putin's crowd and 295 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 1: these Russian military soldiers who were, you know, killing thousands 296 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 1: of women and children Ukraine. I just I don't know. 297 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 1: You don't see the Norwegians doing this, says here. They 298 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:08,440 Speaker 1: tried to capture him in nineteen ninety five. The Taliban 299 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:11,119 Speaker 1: forced down one of his planes in Afghanistan, but he 300 00:18:11,240 --> 00:18:16,040 Speaker 1: somehow managed to escape. And of course, says we mentioned 301 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 1: Merchant of Death, Lord of War. There was a movie 302 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 1: with Nicholas Cage that's supposed he was based on this 303 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:25,360 Speaker 1: man's life. Right, he's got these incredible nicknames. He's got 304 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:28,760 Speaker 1: Nicholas Cage playing him in a movie. I mean, and 305 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: we trade him for a basketball player. That's not right? 306 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:35,920 Speaker 1: All right? We got more coming up. Johnny ken KF 307 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:39,560 Speaker 1: I am six forty live everywhere the iHeartRadio app Alright, 308 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:42,239 Speaker 1: coming up after the news at four o'clock, we're going 309 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 1: to tell you that, well, the California government, of course, 310 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 1: has been moving towards communist takeover private businesses for a 311 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 1: long time. That's kind of the way. I look a 312 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 1: lot of problems this week in Sacramento. They've got these 313 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 1: hearings about the oil companies and price gouging and the 314 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:00,679 Speaker 1: idea of a windfall profits tax again, and there that 315 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:03,159 Speaker 1: would be them putting a cap on the profits of 316 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 1: the oil companies, which to me is sort of like 317 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 1: price fixing and government takeover. They're trying to do the 318 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 1: same thing to the fast food industry. They passed a 319 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 1: bill that Gavin knews Some signed which would set up 320 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:17,119 Speaker 1: some sort of a board to take a look at 321 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 1: the wages benefits for fast food workers. Again, this could 322 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 1: lead to setting wages that the fast food companies would 323 00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:26,800 Speaker 1: have to either obey or take their business elsewhere one 324 00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 1: by one. This is not hyperbole. This is what they 325 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:32,880 Speaker 1: did in the Soviet Union. They look at the poor 326 00:19:32,960 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 1: of California to decide this is how we have to 327 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 1: fix it. Or it's like we're in charge. We're gonna 328 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:41,360 Speaker 1: have control over everything. Yeah, we're gonna have central planning 329 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:45,160 Speaker 1: and so you have commissions and boards that decide, Gee, 330 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:48,120 Speaker 1: how much profit can a company get? It's up to us. 331 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 1: How well did that work out for the old Soviet 332 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 1: Union when they did that, right? Jesus? How much should 333 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 1: employees be paid at a at a burger joint? Oh 334 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:01,479 Speaker 1: that's up to us too. All right, Well, we'll give 335 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 1: you the rundown and the update because the fast food 336 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 1: restaurants have struck back by collecting signatures to overturn the law. 337 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 1: We'll talk about it after the news at four o'clock. 338 00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 1: There is not much to say today in the story 339 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:17,159 Speaker 1: that we will follow until justice is served. John And 340 00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 1: that's the death of the four college students in Idaho 341 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:23,399 Speaker 1: that were murdered in their beds and their off campus house. 342 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:27,360 Speaker 1: The only development yesterday was that they're looking for a 343 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:29,800 Speaker 1: car that may have been in the vicinity of the home, 344 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 1: maybe sometime around the time of the murderers, before after, 345 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:38,439 Speaker 1: I don't know, but it's a white Hunday. But the 346 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:43,840 Speaker 1: other thing that popped up is the fact that, you know, 347 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,200 Speaker 1: people on social media and elsewhere, I want to solve 348 00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 1: this crime, right, So apparently people have taken to Twitter. 349 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 1: You know, almost every story that comes with the words 350 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 1: social media in the headline is a stupid story, it is. 351 00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 1: So some people have taken to Twitter and other social 352 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 1: media outlets and they're going to solve this murder. So 353 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:07,280 Speaker 1: it caught the attention of a former FBI agent by 354 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 1: the name of Jennifer Coffin daffer In. Her name is 355 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 1: Coffin Daffer A great name, Jennifer Coffin Daffer. Coffin Daffer. Yes. 356 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:21,399 Speaker 1: She she shared a message that she got on Twitter, 357 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 1: and it concerns a man by the name of Jackass. 358 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:27,800 Speaker 1: I've come to learn his name is John Jack Showalter, 359 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 1: yeah or Showalter. Sure, he's a happy guy today. You 360 00:21:31,320 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 1: may know. In the days following the murder, one of 361 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:37,399 Speaker 1: the things that popped up was a video. And the 362 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 1: video was two of the girls who were murdered at 363 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,959 Speaker 1: a food truck that was pretty much their last stop 364 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:46,160 Speaker 1: before they came back to the house. And they weren't 365 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 1: the only people at the food truck, even though it 366 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 1: was like one or two in the morning. I forget 367 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 1: there were a number of people, but they apparently struck 368 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 1: up a conversation with a man in a hoodie. Oh no, 369 00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:02,959 Speaker 1: man in a hoodie spoke with college girls. That's right, 370 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:07,439 Speaker 1: food truck, that's right. That turns out that he is 371 00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:14,919 Speaker 1: John Jack. And here's what someone posted on twitterie hoodie 372 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:18,400 Speaker 1: Jack they're calling him is public opinion number one suspect. 373 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:20,879 Speaker 1: He was apparently thrown out of a frat house for 374 00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:23,359 Speaker 1: anger issues, thrown out of a bar that evening for 375 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:26,960 Speaker 1: being creepy towards women and acting really suspicious around the 376 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 1: girls who clearly did not want him there. In addition 377 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,719 Speaker 1: to that, here we go he's a hunter with a 378 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:35,120 Speaker 1: photo resembling a similar knife that we used to murder 379 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 1: the girls. What else is kind of funny is he 380 00:22:37,520 --> 00:22:39,560 Speaker 1: states he drove to a cabin that evening at three 381 00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 1: or four am. Rumor has it he is now in Africa. 382 00:22:43,119 --> 00:22:46,160 Speaker 1: It's not looking very good, is all. I'm saying. Circumstantial 383 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:48,679 Speaker 1: evidence at this point, but it's my pretty I'm pretty 384 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 1: loud in my opinion. Which I were Jack's family, oh, 385 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 1: I'd be asking questions, boy, But that next to last 386 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 1: line is the main point. I am loud in my opinion. 387 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 1: Now I have the stage, and anything I say you 388 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:09,680 Speaker 1: must pay attention to. Thank you, mister narcissist. So Jennifer 389 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:13,159 Speaker 1: Coffin Daffer responded, summing up proof against jack s twenty 390 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 1: fifteen photo. Maybe on family Vaca and Africa. May have 391 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:18,520 Speaker 1: been expelled from a frat, may have been kicked out 392 00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 1: of a bar, was quote creepy at grub truck, not 393 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 1: talking to media. If I tried to get someone charged 394 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 1: for murder with this, I would have been fired. That 395 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 1: was her response. Yeah, none of that is evidence of anything. 396 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 1: They talked to this guy, as I recall, nobody even 397 00:23:31,640 --> 00:23:34,600 Speaker 1: knows if any of that is true. No, I know 398 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:38,200 Speaker 1: it's it's just a crazy claim because the guy was 399 00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 1: wearing a hood If you're trying to quote solve this 400 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: crime from Afar, all you have, or is that video 401 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 1: and a couple of other little piece of information, So yeah, 402 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 1: you're gonna pick out somebody, right? Or are these just troublemakers? 403 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 1: Are these people picking out random characters from the photos 404 00:23:56,040 --> 00:23:58,879 Speaker 1: or videos and say, well, that guy came up quickly. 405 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,160 Speaker 1: I remember that they're into this guy at that food 406 00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:03,400 Speaker 1: truck and he looks kind of weird with his hoodie. 407 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:07,680 Speaker 1: These people, these people should be ignored. They are absolutely 408 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:14,040 Speaker 1: really just human debris, just just garbage people. All right, 409 00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 1: we got more coming up, John and Ken Camp. I 410 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 1: am six forty live everywhere the I Heeart Radio app. 411 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 1: When you have a police department that's incompetent, this is 412 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 1: what fills the vacuum. Do you have something on the 413 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 1: Weinstein jury? No verdict, no verdict. They went home. I 414 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 1: think that tomorrow was the day. Friday often is because 415 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,359 Speaker 1: they don't want to deliver another another week. Yeah, they 416 00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,920 Speaker 1: got to get this done before Christmas, I would think, 417 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,399 Speaker 1: So that's still two weeks away, or what do they 418 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:43,879 Speaker 1: I wonder. I wonder which case they're fighting about or 419 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:46,960 Speaker 1: is it all the cases? I don't know. I wonder 420 00:24:47,000 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 1: if they Well, the New York jury took took a 421 00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:52,880 Speaker 1: little longer, so we'll see. Maybe there's an anti Newsome 422 00:24:52,920 --> 00:24:55,639 Speaker 1: guy on the jury. They're probably a twenty hours of 423 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,160 Speaker 1: deliberation now, the New York jury took twenty six. Yeah, 424 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:02,360 Speaker 1: but that's both of those numbers are too big. They're 425 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 1: way too big, forty six hours between the two. Really, 426 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:08,880 Speaker 1: they're only looking at these four accusers, and maybe they're 427 00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:13,399 Speaker 1: just not believing them somebody, but maybe somebody isn't Yehud, 428 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 1: I get because it's rarely explained afterwards, like so who 429 00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:19,920 Speaker 1: is the pain in the ass jar? And what niggling 430 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:23,159 Speaker 1: little problem did they have with the evidence. So I 431 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 1: believe in looking at the big picture, big picture. Weinstein 432 00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:28,399 Speaker 1: did this, you know, five hundred times in his life. 433 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:32,680 Speaker 1: Big picture, he belongs in prison until he dies. Hopefully 434 00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 1: he'll get bent over and killed in prison. I'm not 435 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 1: worried about the niggling little bits of evidence that don't 436 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:41,359 Speaker 1: add up. Do you think the other prisoners will be 437 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 1: intrigued by where his testicles are? Or oh yeah, yeah, 438 00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,960 Speaker 1: I bet that's gonna be a draw a tretch and 439 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 1: that let me see. Do you think he shares a 440 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 1: group shower with the other prisoners. I don't. I don't know. 441 00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 1: He wasn't prison in New York. They brought him out 442 00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:58,160 Speaker 1: here for this. So look at Harvey. Look what Harvey's got. 443 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:05,359 Speaker 1: They're in his thighs. Somebody's probably charging money in the 444 00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:12,439 Speaker 1: shower giving away. Looks at Harvey's thigh. Oh what a 445 00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 1: fine story you sent to the John and Ken's show today, 446 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 1: John Colbelt watching cringe. Here's how much invisible toilet water 447 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 1: sprays into the air after you flush. Once you see 448 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 1: these videos, you'll never going to think about a toilet 449 00:26:26,000 --> 00:26:29,399 Speaker 1: flush the same way again. Oh I'm not flushing my 450 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 1: toilet anymore. Scientists at the University of Colorado at Boulder 451 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:38,600 Speaker 1: did this experiment. I'm gonna hire somebody. They Oh, you're 452 00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 1: gonna write. Oh, so after you go, you're gonna what 453 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,320 Speaker 1: if it's got one of those automatic flushers, you better run. 454 00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm not going in the Some of the 455 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,239 Speaker 1: public restrooms had that automatic thing. Yeah, you're not going 456 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:50,239 Speaker 1: to the men's room here anymore. Then I'm gonna hire 457 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 1: a rate of flush for me, and I'll think of 458 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,160 Speaker 1: all the years we were in there when I wish, 459 00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:58,320 Speaker 1: I wish I knew then what I know now. The 460 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 1: invisible plume when you flush the bowl is it contains 461 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:06,080 Speaker 1: microscopic particles of pee, poop, and whatever else was in 462 00:27:06,119 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 1: the bowl. The research team use bright green lasers and 463 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:16,040 Speaker 1: cameras to reveal how they are rapidly ejected from a 464 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 1: littless public toilet. Lead author John Crimaldi says, if it's 465 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,440 Speaker 1: something you can't see, it's easy to pretend it does 466 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 1: not exist. But once you see these videos, you're never 467 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:30,560 Speaker 1: going to think about a toilet flush the same way again. 468 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 1: So if you stand over the bowl as you flush 469 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:38,760 Speaker 1: and you do the whoosh, you have all this microscopic 470 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:43,159 Speaker 1: pooh and pee and everything else, and it may not 471 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:46,680 Speaker 1: be your own, right was in there flashing on your face. Sure, 472 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,120 Speaker 1: sometimes there's a little residue left on the side. Okay, 473 00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:52,639 Speaker 1: But then if people don't don't flush in in public restrooms, 474 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,439 Speaker 1: and that's gonna be I don't know. That's gonna be 475 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 1: pretty disgusting. And you're gonna walk in and you're gonna 476 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 1: smell that, and that's all. Use a stall where there's 477 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,320 Speaker 1: already something in there. I won't know, right, So then 478 00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,439 Speaker 1: what are you going to do? What if nobody flushes anymore? 479 00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 1: If you're listening to this, I don't flush because I 480 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 1: don't want to touch the handles. You okay, well that's 481 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,560 Speaker 1: where you you use a piece of toilet paper like 482 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 1: I do. I never touch, I never touched, okay, whatever, 483 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 1: But now if I do that, I'm going to get 484 00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 1: a face full of everybody else's Okay, But then I'm saying, 485 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 1: then what if you don't and then you go? You 486 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,400 Speaker 1: have to go right, and so nobody flushes, then you're 487 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 1: going to go into a stall where somebody's poop and 488 00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 1: pee is just waiting for you. I'm just not gonna 489 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:34,719 Speaker 1: eat anymore or drink or drink. No, maybe there's a way. 490 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 1: What if you close the lid and then flush? Will 491 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,920 Speaker 1: that help? I know? People to do that? Then you 492 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 1: got to touch the lid though, No, you don't. You 493 00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:46,160 Speaker 1: use a paper, you use a toilet paper. Yeah, we're 494 00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 1: in the insane asylum. That's what I do. I never 495 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 1: touch around with paper tables on your hands all afternoon. 496 00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 1: Still do that ya every door. And I don't want 497 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 1: to wear those little disposable gloves. I have those two 498 00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 1: when I go to the gas station. That's why I 499 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,840 Speaker 1: put those on the Yet, you were homesick a couple 500 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 1: of weeks one day. That's more than John and can 501 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 1: have been home. So that's right. We don't use any 502 00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 1: of this stuff. Yeah, you just come in sick, John, 503 00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 1: he will. Yeah. The airborne droplets. The airborne droplets shoot 504 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,120 Speaker 1: out at speeds of six point six feet per second, 505 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 1: reaching four point nine feet above the toilet within eight seconds. Wow, 506 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 1: you've got no chance. The largest droplets settled onto surfaces. 507 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 1: Smaller ones linger suspended for many minutes. So in the 508 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 1: first second, the the the the toilet droplets are already 509 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:41,000 Speaker 1: above your head. They were lighter than the air. Ye. God, 510 00:29:41,400 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 1: they can transport E Coli, C. Difficill neuroviruses, add neoviruses. 511 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 1: Now COVID nineteen is president in human pooh. But they 512 00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,960 Speaker 1: don't know that it necessarily spreads through toilet arrows. So 513 00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 1: they're not saying that I don't you want to test 514 00:29:56,520 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 1: that though, they the researchers said, people have long known 515 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 1: that toilets to admit aerosols, and we used to call 516 00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 1: it the plume, right, the plume, yes, but they've never 517 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:08,520 Speaker 1: been able to see it. And that's why we did 518 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:13,080 Speaker 1: this so people would have an idea the plume and 519 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:16,320 Speaker 1: the pathogens can persist in the bowl even for dozens 520 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 1: of flushes. Yeah, I know, so the previous poopers. It's 521 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 1: shooting up everybody the whole day. Maybe yesterday too, Oh yeah, 522 00:30:26,360 --> 00:30:29,600 Speaker 1: maybe yesterday too. I'm gonna bring these photos into the 523 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:33,040 Speaker 1: green laser. Yeah. One as I don't see poop, I 524 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 1: don't want. Well, the there's a lot of droplet's lit up. 525 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,120 Speaker 1: That's something I don't know if it's pooped. But yeah, 526 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,959 Speaker 1: it sounds like a missed, like a little rain missed. 527 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,479 Speaker 1: Maybe we all just need to wear adult diapers and 528 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 1: not everything ever used the ball. Oh, listen to this 529 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 1: and kidding some of the we never know with you 530 00:30:56,520 --> 00:31:00,360 Speaker 1: this paper towel woman, just smaller particles not only float 531 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,040 Speaker 1: in the air for longer, but can escape nose hairs 532 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 1: and reach deeper into one's lungs. Oh my, you're sucking 533 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 1: in like these microsky I want to inhale somebody's poop. Yah, right, 534 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,280 Speaker 1: you're deep into your long And usually if I'm were 535 00:31:14,360 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 1: in that that men's room, when I hear somebody about 536 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,400 Speaker 1: the flush, until I run out of there me too. 537 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 1: As soon as you hear the shuffling of the feet, 538 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 1: yeah yeah, or the roll, I don't want to hear. 539 00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:25,640 Speaker 1: I don't want to smell the stink, and I don't 540 00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:27,560 Speaker 1: want to take in the plumes. I know, but when 541 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 1: it's your own, you still are going to get these 542 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:33,959 Speaker 1: disgusting That's my mantra. No stink, no plume. You know. 543 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:36,880 Speaker 1: Some of the droplets are one millionth of a meter 544 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 1: and they's hang in the air for many minutes, so 545 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 1: you could walk in, you know, for ten minutes after 546 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 1: somebody has done the deed and you're still inhaling this 547 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,719 Speaker 1: into your lungs. That's just it. No more, no more bathroom. 548 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 1: That's it. Everybody listening is no longer gonna flush. I'm 549 00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 1: just gonna go out in the backyard, all right, Tonny 550 00:31:55,680 --> 00:31:58,720 Speaker 1: Ken Show. 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