WEBVTT - McMillions: When Uncle Jerry Rigged the McDonald's Monopoly Game

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<v Speaker 1>Ridiculous crime. It's a production of iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you a Elizabeth? Why? How are you doing?

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<v Speaker 3>I'm good, I'm good. How are you?

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<v Speaker 2>How is your heart?

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<v Speaker 3>My heart is full. How's your heart?

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<v Speaker 2>It's still kicking. So that's all I ask?

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<v Speaker 3>Is running in a pumpin?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? So I got a question for you other than

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<v Speaker 2>about our cardiovascular health. Yes, sir, do you know it's ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 3>I can tell you it's ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 2>I was counting.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, Actually it's not me. It's McKinley at the Bend

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<v Speaker 3>Beer Vault.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, is this a friend of yours?

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<v Speaker 3>She's a friend of the show, she emailed us.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh rude dude.

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<v Speaker 3>Nice, Yeah, total rude dude. Seems like a really cool person,

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<v Speaker 3>she said. Love the show. My boyfriend and I have

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<v Speaker 3>been listening for three years and it's definitely our favorite.

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<v Speaker 3>We love having you two join along on our road trips.

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<v Speaker 3>Y'all always bring a smile to our faces. Take care

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<v Speaker 3>and stay ridiculous. It's McKinley. So McKenley sent us something, huh,

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<v Speaker 3>and I'm going to tell you it's not a mashup.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, McKinley, you rock you and your boy She.

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<v Speaker 3>Referred to it as a mashup. But it's not a mashup.

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<v Speaker 3>It's m Kenley is still rock, She's still rockbous.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just suspicious of you.

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<v Speaker 3>You should always be, all right, So this You like milkshakes? Yes,

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<v Speaker 3>I mean your milkshake brings all the boys to the art.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean you've tasted it.

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<v Speaker 3>No, the milkshakes you like them?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes?

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<v Speaker 3>What's your favorite flavor of.

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<v Speaker 2>Milkshake these days? Yeah, don't laugh, but I'm really into

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<v Speaker 2>a vanilla.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh really, I know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the flavor nobody nobody respects. Everyone acts like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>that's so vanilla. But it's actually a really nice flavor.

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<v Speaker 2>So I've been really into, like it's not.

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<v Speaker 3>Just like milk, like plain nothing flavor.

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<v Speaker 2>Favorite My third favorite, thank you for asking, It would

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<v Speaker 2>probably be peach. What about you? I like what's your

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<v Speaker 2>third favorite? What's your second favorite?

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<v Speaker 3>Chocolate?

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<v Speaker 2>What's your first favorite?

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<v Speaker 3>Milcha?

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<v Speaker 2>Are? Okay?

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<v Speaker 3>Well when as coffee one doesn't?

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<v Speaker 2>Right? Right of course? Naturally?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah that's what I like. I like what I like.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't like certain kinds of milkshakes.

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<v Speaker 2>What kind is that, Elizabeth?

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<v Speaker 3>That would be the ultimate cheese at milkshake? Cheese it.

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<v Speaker 3>You didn't partner with anyone. This is cheese It did

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<v Speaker 3>this to them, damnselves. It's on the recipes on their website.

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<v Speaker 3>And they have other, like, you know, questionable recipes.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sure they do.

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<v Speaker 3>But the ultimate cheese At Milkshake saren. Prepare your taste

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<v Speaker 3>buds to sip it with this absurdly indulgent milkshake made

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<v Speaker 3>with your favorite cheesy salty snack vanilla shake. Look you

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<v Speaker 3>like that? Blended with cheese it crackers and the crushed

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<v Speaker 3>cheese it cracker rim and topped with whipped cream, chocolate

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<v Speaker 3>sauce and garnished with a cheese it cracker. Here's a picture.

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<v Speaker 3>We'll have them put that on Instagram.

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<v Speaker 2>I literally shuddered, like my whole body.

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<v Speaker 3>Jesus in a vanilla of shake is just that I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't like that one bit.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's it's a Cheddar shake.

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<v Speaker 3>They have they it's a Cheddar shake, and they have

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<v Speaker 3>other recipes like the non alcoholic cheese a rita.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, why would I want that? Pour in some brandy?

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<v Speaker 3>I a Seltzer cheese it hot and spicy cracker infused

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<v Speaker 3>simple syrup, lime and pineapple. It's made to spice up

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<v Speaker 3>your dance moves. That's what it says. That's not me

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<v Speaker 3>saying that. That's the cheese It. That's you know, the

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<v Speaker 3>cheese talking Captain cheese It himself, the founder of cheese

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<v Speaker 3>It's I'm just scrolling through here, and it's there's a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of it's a lot of things that explain why

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<v Speaker 3>our society's falling apart that these are acceptable things to

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<v Speaker 3>put online. Cheese it's s'mores brownies. Those go with a milkshake.

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<v Speaker 2>So Rome had bread and circuses. We have cheese hikes.

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<v Speaker 3>We have cheese it's and milkshakes extra big. Cheese It's

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<v Speaker 3>moores cookies. Make them extra big because you know you

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<v Speaker 3>can't get enough.

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<v Speaker 2>Zaren the test kitchen a cheese It must be a

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<v Speaker 2>wild place.

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<v Speaker 3>Saron cheese at Lemon Bars. I'll stop, Actually no, I won't.

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<v Speaker 3>You'll never stop anyway. That's that's cheese at apple Pie.

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<v Speaker 3>That's ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 2>For your restraint, No.

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<v Speaker 3>I have no you know me, I have zero restraint.

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<v Speaker 2>I should have been yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So anyway, it's ridiculous, ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 2>Well do you know what else is ridiculous? A lot

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<v Speaker 2>of things go well, okay, I got a question, another

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<v Speaker 2>question for you to start it off. Okay, do you

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<v Speaker 2>remember the Monopoly game from McDonald's. I do, Yeah, did

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<v Speaker 2>you play it?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, like the semi regular return of the Nick Rib, Elizabeth,

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<v Speaker 2>I got good news for you. McDonald's Monopoly game is back.

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<v Speaker 3>Baby. It was like in the eighties, right, yeah, eighties, nineties.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember that as a kid.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's wild because, yeah, as you point out, you

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<v Speaker 2>remember when you're a kid, if you know what happened

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<v Speaker 2>back when it was first a popular game to play

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<v Speaker 2>at the Golden Arches. Huh, it's wild that it's coming back. Really,

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<v Speaker 2>And if you don't know, well you're in for a treat,

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<v Speaker 2>because that's what I want to tell you about.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm about to know today.

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<v Speaker 5>This is Ridiculous Crime, a podcast about absurd and outrageous capers,

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<v Speaker 5>hece and cons. It's always ninety nine percent murder free

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<v Speaker 5>and one hundred percent ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 3>Ridiculous, Elizabeth, ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, what do you know about the story of lotteries? Uh?

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<v Speaker 3>Lottery, I don't know. They're old. They're old as heck.

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<v Speaker 2>They did them in the caves pretty close.

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<v Speaker 3>But that was to kill a community member.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, it's like who survives the winter?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, and that's what is it? The short story of

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<v Speaker 3>the lottery. Oh, Shirley Jackson, Sure, there you go. There's that.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a dim, dark lottery.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I was gonna say that's not really a fun one,

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<v Speaker 2>but well, har I'll inform you about the history lottery.

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<v Speaker 2>Still briefly, one of the first lotteries in history took

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<v Speaker 2>place in the Han dynasty in ancient China. Okay, so

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<v Speaker 2>roughly two oh five b c. So not in the caves,

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<v Speaker 2>no post caves. The money was raised for this lottery

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<v Speaker 2>by the Han dynasty, and the money that they generated

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<v Speaker 2>from the lottery was used to pay for the construction

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<v Speaker 2>of the Great Wall of China. Great Wall of China

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<v Speaker 2>was paid for by gambling.

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<v Speaker 3>They're like, you know, it's for a good cause, guys,

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<v Speaker 3>it's for the wall. Like how people are like, it's

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<v Speaker 3>for the schools, and that's not why you're buying a

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<v Speaker 3>lottery ticket.

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<v Speaker 2>The next time someone says gambling is a degenerate form

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<v Speaker 2>of entertainment, you can tell them, I guess you don't

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<v Speaker 2>like the Great Wall at China, right, because gambling built

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<v Speaker 2>that wonder of the ward. Okay, so My point is

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<v Speaker 2>gambling has been around for a very long time, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and especially the lottery, and it's often been used to

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<v Speaker 2>pay for the running of the government or to fund

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<v Speaker 2>construction of grand endeavors. Of course, this is not always

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<v Speaker 2>the case. Sometimes lotteries were designed to curry favor, like

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<v Speaker 2>for instance, in ancient Rome in the time of the Empire,

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<v Speaker 2>gambling was permitted only during special occasions like the celebrations

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<v Speaker 2>of Saturnalia, which was not sure if you're familiar, I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't know about this exactly, but it was the holiday

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<v Speaker 2>time that Christmas would later replace. Oh really, okay, So

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<v Speaker 2>when the Roman Empire adopted Christianity, they're like, well, it's

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<v Speaker 2>just slot that right into Saturnalia and keep it balking.

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<v Speaker 3>Big coincidence, Yeah, birthday.

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<v Speaker 2>Well that and also the soul and Victis. But I'll

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<v Speaker 2>get to that in a second. So way back in

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<v Speaker 2>the fourth century CE.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait, when does memit the second making.

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<v Speaker 2>Appearance not in this episode? Surprisingly, Yeah, okay, So in

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<v Speaker 2>the fourth century CE, or if you prefer ad on

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<v Speaker 2>O Dominus, Yes, Pope Julius, the first issue a decree

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<v Speaker 2>that Christmas, the celebration of the birth of baby Jesus

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<v Speaker 2>was to be celebrated on December twenty fifth. It's thought

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<v Speaker 2>that this was the to replace the pagan gift giving

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<v Speaker 2>of Saturnalia with the new Christian gift giving of Christmas.

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<v Speaker 2>It was also intended to combine celebrations. There was the

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<v Speaker 2>Saturnalia and then also, as they said, the birthday celebration

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<v Speaker 2>of Soul Invictus, who was the son god of the

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<v Speaker 2>Roman Empire. His birthday was honored on when December twenty fifth.

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<v Speaker 3>Nice.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So anyway back to Saturnalia as it plays out,

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<v Speaker 2>The earliest European lotteries date back to Saturnalia the Roman Empire.

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<v Speaker 2>So wealthy families they would hold these extravagant dinner parties

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<v Speaker 2>and there's a lot of role reversal, like where the

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<v Speaker 2>slaves get to be the master and that kind of stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>and so rich people would invite all their friends over.

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<v Speaker 2>Then they would try to like curry favor by then

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<v Speaker 2>helding a lottery and everybody, guess, would all be given

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<v Speaker 2>a lottery ticket when they entered the dinner party or whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>and each ticket holder would win a gift, and some

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<v Speaker 2>of the gifts were more lavish than others, and that

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<v Speaker 2>was like the beginning of the lottery. This idea is

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<v Speaker 2>then expanded upon by the first Great Roman Emperor, Augustus Caesar.

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<v Speaker 2>He switched up the game by selling tickets for prizes

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<v Speaker 2>and to the public instead of at like a dinner party,

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<v Speaker 2>and some of the gifts that he was giving out

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<v Speaker 2>were more spectacular than others. The funds that were generated

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<v Speaker 2>he used those to rebuild the aging city of Rome.

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<v Speaker 2>So Rome was also built on lottery win not in

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<v Speaker 2>a day, well yeah, not in a day, or I

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<v Speaker 2>guess lottery funds. Anyway, fast forward to colonial America, you

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<v Speaker 2>could argue that the colonies were also built off the

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<v Speaker 2>funds generated by gambling. Oh really, because oh my goodness, yes,

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<v Speaker 2>tons liket like hundreds of them. Back in sixteen twelve,

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<v Speaker 2>King James of England, King James the First he allowed

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<v Speaker 2>the Virginia Company to offer a lottery in England to

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<v Speaker 2>raise money for the struggling settlement because like they you know,

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<v Speaker 2>post James Stower Jamestown's founding, They're like, this is not

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<v Speaker 2>going well. These rich kids are not doing what we

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<v Speaker 2>thought they would do. You mean to raise some money.

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<v Speaker 2>So they do. And so from that very first English

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<v Speaker 2>settlement aka Jamestown gambling has been part of America's story. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>this holds true all the way through colonial times. Lotteries

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<v Speaker 2>were used to raise money to build roads, canals, bridges.

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<v Speaker 2>You want to build a church, let's hold a lottery.

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<v Speaker 2>You want a library, Let's hold a lottery. And then

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<v Speaker 2>the first universities in America, so like the earliest ones,

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<v Speaker 2>not Harvard, but Princeton and Columbia, were both paid for

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<v Speaker 2>with money generated from lotteriesday same for the University of Pennsylvania.

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<v Speaker 2>So nearly half of the Ivy League was paid for

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<v Speaker 2>off of gambling profits. That's what I mean by say

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<v Speaker 2>America has always been cozy with gambling, so you know,

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<v Speaker 2>enjoy that crypto anyway, When you have so much money

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<v Speaker 2>generated by a lottery, some folks obviously will do what cheat? Yes,

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<v Speaker 2>and then fraud follows, which is why in eighteen ninety

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<v Speaker 2>in the United States, lotteries were officially pretty much banned

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<v Speaker 2>in all but two states. You want to guess which

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<v Speaker 2>two states are? Like, nope, we're keeping this. This is

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<v Speaker 2>really good. Eighteen ninety Yes, obviously there's no Utah, Arizona exists,

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<v Speaker 2>New Jersey, good guess. No, think of more corrupt than

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<v Speaker 2>New Jersey more corrupt. Yeah Jersey not like you know

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<v Speaker 2>a movie. Pennsylvania close, Delaware the home of the corporation.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah right.

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<v Speaker 3>Louisiana, well that's its own thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, yes, Louisian especially New Orleans. No Orleans like a

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<v Speaker 2>city state in America, and Louisiana is like, we are

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<v Speaker 2>different than New Orleans. You're still corrupt anyway. Once lotteries

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<v Speaker 2>were banned, folks conspired to find new ways to gamble.

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<v Speaker 2>They're like, okay, well we'll keep this rock and so

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<v Speaker 2>thus the era of the sweep steaks was born. Difference,

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<v Speaker 2>so the sweep The difference between lottery and a sweep

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<v Speaker 2>sticks is that a sweep stakes it doesn't require the

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<v Speaker 2>gambler to purchase the tickets. You've heard all your life, no.

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<v Speaker 3>Purchase, purchase necessary, Okay, So.

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<v Speaker 2>Instead the gambling tickets are part of a giveaway for

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<v Speaker 2>like a product or a person can even also end

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<v Speaker 2>in a request for a free ticket to place and

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<v Speaker 2>self a dress stack?

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<v Speaker 3>Isn't it like where it will be on like product packaging?

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<v Speaker 3>But it's just nope. But like so you can like

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<v Speaker 3>ask for a thing without buying exactly, but no one

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<v Speaker 3>ever does.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so with sweepstakes. Sometimes the prize is a product,

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<v Speaker 2>or sometimes it's a service like oh, get a free

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<v Speaker 2>massage or whatever.

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<v Speaker 5>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>Other times it's a big cash prize aka gambling. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>So sweepscakes. They become a very popular way for a

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<v Speaker 2>business to drive traffic to come in and buy their whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>My grandpa loved those.

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<v Speaker 2>Really.

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<v Speaker 3>If he could send in a ticket for a sweepstakes,

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<v Speaker 3>he would, and he would send in multiples with variations

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<v Speaker 3>on spellings on everyone's name in the household. Interesting and

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<v Speaker 3>so like when I was a little kid, they had

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<v Speaker 3>a Tony the Tiger baseball sweepstakes with what was that, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>frosted flakes. No one in the house ate frosted flakes.

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<v Speaker 3>He went out and he bought a bunch of boxes

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<v Speaker 3>of frosted flakes, and then he filled all of them out,

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<v Speaker 3>and all of us had like variations on our names.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, it was like Elizabeth Button and oh yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>And so it's like because it was like one per household,

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<v Speaker 3>one for whatever it was. So he sent all of

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<v Speaker 3>these in and then we got inundated with Tony the

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<v Speaker 3>Tiger baseballs. We got so many of them.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you won baseball?

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<v Speaker 3>We won baseballs. And then what was kind of cool

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<v Speaker 3>is like later on, like after he passed away, about

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<v Speaker 3>a month later, I got a puzzle book in the

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<v Speaker 3>mail and his name m H that he had won

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<v Speaker 3>in a sweepstakes.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you still have it?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? And it's like I love puzzles, and I was

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<v Speaker 3>just like, this is incredible, like you know, still still

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<v Speaker 3>raking it in.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know who else loves sweepstakes? No fast food companies?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, Well that's what we were talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>Just like a lottery, the winner selected at random, and

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<v Speaker 2>just like a lottery, sweepstakes become this theater for fraud

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<v Speaker 2>and abuse because you can get to say a ticket

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<v Speaker 2>or whatever the product is dan and you can win

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<v Speaker 2>possibly a big cash prize, sometimes millions of dollars. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's what I want to tell you about. The Great

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<v Speaker 2>Monopoly scam for McDonald's. It's one of the most famous

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<v Speaker 2>sweepsticks aside from Publishers clearing House. It's just like all

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<v Speaker 2>true sweepstakes, it was a no purchase necessary form of gambling.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, Now do you remember the Monopoly game for McDonald's.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you ever play it? I mean, like we know

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<v Speaker 2>how it worked on the title.

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<v Speaker 3>Because you would get and I feel like you had

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<v Speaker 3>to go inside and there was like the police mat

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<v Speaker 3>on the tray, was the board or maybe they gave

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<v Speaker 3>you the board. I don't remember how it works, but

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<v Speaker 3>they was like the monopoly board.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes. So there was the early forms, yes, and then

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<v Speaker 2>later on you just have to basically collect the like

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<v Speaker 2>say the colors of a property on Monopoly.

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<v Speaker 3>So you had to have the board so you knew

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<v Speaker 3>like how many collector the only.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you need to win, like say like like three, say,

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<v Speaker 2>like you know, if you pick like Baltic Avenue, you

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<v Speaker 2>only need the other light blue ones. I think Baltic

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<v Speaker 2>Avenue is black, but anyway, and then if you have

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<v Speaker 2>park Place on Boardwalk and you have those bright blue ones, right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's all you need, just those two, you would win

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<v Speaker 2>a million dollars.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, But like the lesser ones you would collect and

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<v Speaker 3>it was like, oh, you got some.

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<v Speaker 2>Fries, yeah, well exactly you've been like yeah, free happy

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<v Speaker 2>meal or you got some large.

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<v Speaker 3>Fries yeah, Marvin Gardens ext.

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<v Speaker 2>So this new Monopoly game for McDonald's was announced in

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<v Speaker 2>September of this year, and it starts on October sixth,

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<v Speaker 2>and as always, it's available for a limited time only.

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<v Speaker 2>Now for the new rebooted version, there are still the

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<v Speaker 2>same peeloy stickers that you would find on the cups

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<v Speaker 2>and the fries, and those are the game pieces, just

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<v Speaker 2>like it used to be. But now it's an app

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<v Speaker 2>based game you play on your smartphone.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh to scan the yes, exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>It kind of ruins some of the fun for me

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<v Speaker 2>because but you still get to peel them off, and

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<v Speaker 2>then you scan onto your phone. Then it keeps track

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<v Speaker 2>of them for you.

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<v Speaker 3>But I saw a Reddit post where someone ordered McDonald's

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<v Speaker 3>through like door dash or something, and the guy who

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<v Speaker 3>delivered it had peeled the stickers off and it arrived

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<v Speaker 3>denuded of its.

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<v Speaker 2>That's amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>You don't have to collect those little, tiny little things.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I loved collecting those. I mean back when cars had ashtrays,

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<v Speaker 2>we kept all the McDonald's Monopoly pieces and.

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<v Speaker 3>It was like we would use it as like, come on,

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<v Speaker 3>we got Grandma. We're so close, yeah, so close to

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<v Speaker 3>getting this Pennsylvania. I swear to god, you cannot have

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<v Speaker 3>any more. Come on.

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<v Speaker 2>So back to the new app. You still get the

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<v Speaker 2>same game pieces as we said, and then you scan them,

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<v Speaker 2>but then you also have to get the McDonald's app, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and you have to join the McDonald's loyalty program, which

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<v Speaker 2>I'm never gonna do, so I guess I'm just not

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<v Speaker 2>going to play this time around anyway. If you do

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<v Speaker 2>have the app, you collect all your digital game pieces.

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<v Speaker 2>Just like with Monopoly, if you collect the properties of

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<v Speaker 2>the color coded neighborhood boom, you can win prizes, so

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<v Speaker 2>like for now, this time you can win a brand

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<v Speaker 2>new Jeep Grand Cherokee, and for one lucky winner there'll

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<v Speaker 2>be a big cash prize of one million dollars, which

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<v Speaker 2>is what it used to be. Of course, a million

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<v Speaker 2>dollars is a lot more money back when, totally like,

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<v Speaker 2>do you know, do you remember the first McDonald's Monopoly game?

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<v Speaker 2>Do you want to guess what year that first iteration

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<v Speaker 2>came out?

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<v Speaker 3>To see? Eighty five?

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<v Speaker 2>Close? Really good? Eighty seven? Eighty seven April of nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>eighty seven to be exact, okay, which coincidentally is also

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<v Speaker 2>the same year as a Big Wall Street crash.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, right?

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<v Speaker 2>In October, right, you have the Black Monday or Black Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 2>depending on which one has both names. Did you know

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<v Speaker 2>that Black Monday and Black Tuesday? I always I keep

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<v Speaker 2>it as Black Monday, but I looked it up on

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<v Speaker 2>Wikipedia both. Yeah, because people are like, well, I really

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<v Speaker 2>lost more money the next day, so we call it

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<v Speaker 2>black Tuesday here. I guess.

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<v Speaker 3>I totally thought it was earlier than that. That's funny.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So anyway, do you want to guess the last

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<v Speaker 2>year the McDonald's offered its monopoly game before bringing you back?

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<v Speaker 3>Nineties? Right?

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<v Speaker 2>Twenty fourteen?

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<v Speaker 3>Twenty fourteen? Yeah, I don't really keep up with McDonald

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<v Speaker 3>I haven't kept up with McDonald since I was a child.

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<v Speaker 2>I know you haven't. Now you may be thinking that,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, what does this have to do with crime?

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<v Speaker 2>Great question, Elizabeth, because I'm about to tell you about

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<v Speaker 2>that question. But the McDonald's Monopoly game, you know it

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<v Speaker 2>was revealed to be rigged earlier than twenty fourteen. It

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<v Speaker 2>was back in two thousand and one. Oh really, that's

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<v Speaker 2>when the revelation came about, right, And it's hard of

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<v Speaker 2>them limped along until twenty fourteen when it finally fizzled

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<v Speaker 2>out as a promotion. So what happened back in two

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<v Speaker 2>thousand and one?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Great question, Elizabeth, And after this break, I will tell

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<v Speaker 2>you excellent, Elizabeth.

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<v Speaker 3>There.

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<v Speaker 2>So McDonald's Monopoly you were telling me about that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I was telling you all there was Okay, so

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<v Speaker 3>here's what you need to know. So there was fraud,

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<v Speaker 3>and it started in two thousand and.

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<v Speaker 2>One, and I got revealed in two thousand and one,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was.

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<v Speaker 3>Spoke, it was revealed. You know, I don't know words.

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<v Speaker 2>So nineteen eighty seven, it starts right now. You want

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<v Speaker 2>to guess what year the insider fraud started. No, two

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<v Speaker 2>years later. It took two years. Nineteen eighty nine is

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<v Speaker 2>when our crime story begins.

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<v Speaker 3>Only two It only went two beautiful years.

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<v Speaker 2>Totally before someone's like, I can rig there.

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<v Speaker 3>I got an idea.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so a first little bit about how you could

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<v Speaker 2>win the McDonald's Monopoly game. Obviously you have you have

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<v Speaker 2>to collect the game pieces, and you had to collect

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<v Speaker 2>a complete set. You know, we've covered that, and then

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<v Speaker 2>you could win a million dollars. So park Place and

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<v Speaker 2>Boardwalk were the way to win a million dollars. But

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<v Speaker 2>there was another way to win, which is you could

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<v Speaker 2>find the elusive instant win game piece. Okay, so this

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<v Speaker 2>piece that you would pull it off, it just says, oh, congratulations,

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<v Speaker 2>you've won a million dollars, you won five hundred thousand dollars,

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<v Speaker 2>you won twenty there's a bunch of big, big prizes.

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<v Speaker 2>Now do you remember how wild it would be when

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<v Speaker 2>people get park place and then all they needed was

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<v Speaker 2>boardwalk and they would just be going back.

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<v Speaker 3>I was firm believer that boardwalk was never printed, you

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<v Speaker 3>know what I mean, Or they printed one and it

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<v Speaker 3>was in a special cup, like in a safe so

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<v Speaker 3>they could say.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, we printed technically did well. Obviously, the easier path

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<v Speaker 2>to the million dollar cash prize was to find one

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<v Speaker 2>of those hyper elusive instant win game piece, which meant

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<v Speaker 2>it was to your benefit to go back to McDonald's

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<v Speaker 2>as often as possible.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, yeah, and that's especially with kids.

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<v Speaker 2>They're the oh yeah, or teenagers who think they can win.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>This is how monopoly became easily, by far, the most

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<v Speaker 2>profitable marketing campaign for McDonald's since they invented the happy meal.

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<v Speaker 2>Those are like the two high points, right. It was

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<v Speaker 2>the most lucrative marketing stunt in like the history of

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<v Speaker 2>fast food. But what folks never knew at the time

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<v Speaker 2>was the game was rigged like you weren't gonna find

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<v Speaker 2>one of those instant win stickers, at least not after

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen eighty nine. Oh no, you may be thinking, well

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<v Speaker 2>why not, Zaren, great question, Elizabeth. The reason why was

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<v Speaker 2>a man known as Uncle Jerry and Jerry Garcia of

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<v Speaker 2>the Great Back. I'm talking about Jerry Jacobson from my

0:20:51.840 --> 0:20:55.879
<v Speaker 2>first hometown, Atlanta, Georgia. Now, this Uncle Jerry, who was

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<v Speaker 2>eventually the man responsible for defrauding the McDonald's monopoly game,

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<v Speaker 2>was wait for it, a former cop.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>He was born at the end of the Silent Generation,

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen forty three. He was raised in Youngstown, Ohio. Like

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<v Speaker 2>you know that, he enjoyed this all American upbringing. When

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<v Speaker 2>he's a teen, his family moves to Miami, Florida. And

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<v Speaker 2>then when he's of age, he's ready to leave home

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<v Speaker 2>and he goes to join the US Marines. But he

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<v Speaker 2>gets kicked out of the core and basic training due

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<v Speaker 2>to having high arches.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, crazy, I know.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, So my friend got kicked out for having flat feet.

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<v Speaker 2>His feet were two flactually they were like convex. They

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<v Speaker 2>were like bowed out.

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<v Speaker 3>He had like a little rocker. He was like a

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<v Speaker 3>rocking horse when he walked down the street, completely he

0:21:35.840 --> 0:21:37.160
<v Speaker 3>stood still, he'd rock.

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<v Speaker 2>You followed his footprints down the beach. It looked like

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<v Speaker 2>what creature am I following your kid? Yeah? That's wow.

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<v Speaker 2>There was no like normal footprint. It was the exact opposite.

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<v Speaker 2>It was like the only the art fascinating. Yeah. So

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<v Speaker 2>so at this point, right, this guy gets kicked out.

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<v Speaker 2>He bounces around for a bit, and then Uncle Jerry

0:21:52.520 --> 0:21:55.280
<v Speaker 2>in nineteen seventy six, he's he has his dream of

0:21:55.359 --> 0:21:57.800
<v Speaker 2>becoming a cop, and that comes to pass. He joins

0:21:57.840 --> 0:22:01.160
<v Speaker 2>the Hollywood, Florida Police Department. With Florida is the less

0:22:01.200 --> 0:22:04.640
<v Speaker 2>famous Hollywood. Yeah, obviously located between Miami and Fort Lauderdale

0:22:04.760 --> 0:22:07.280
<v Speaker 2>right there on like the eastern coast of Florida. Right, Okay, Now,

0:22:07.359 --> 0:22:09.160
<v Speaker 2>much like his dream to be a marine, his time

0:22:09.200 --> 0:22:12.119
<v Speaker 2>in the Hollywood Police Department didn't last long. Yeah, this

0:22:12.240 --> 0:22:14.359
<v Speaker 2>time it was his wrist. He got into some altercation.

0:22:14.400 --> 0:22:16.400
<v Speaker 2>I couldn't find out what it was. He injures his wrist.

0:22:16.720 --> 0:22:18.879
<v Speaker 2>He goes out on medical leave. Right, this lasts for

0:22:18.920 --> 0:22:23.080
<v Speaker 2>a long time because in nineteen eighty, still on medical leave,

0:22:23.480 --> 0:22:26.879
<v Speaker 2>he collapses from paralysis and he loses feeling in his eyes,

0:22:27.119 --> 0:22:30.399
<v Speaker 2>his arms, his legs, and his lungs. He has a

0:22:30.400 --> 0:22:31.119
<v Speaker 2>hard time breathing.

0:22:31.160 --> 0:22:31.879
<v Speaker 3>Oh, you're kidding me.

0:22:31.920 --> 0:22:35.040
<v Speaker 2>He has this rare neurological condition. Right, So, in order

0:22:35.119 --> 0:22:37.520
<v Speaker 2>to take care of her husband, his wife, Marcia, also

0:22:37.560 --> 0:22:40.560
<v Speaker 2>a cop, she leaves the force and then, you know,

0:22:40.640 --> 0:22:42.840
<v Speaker 2>since he'll never be a cop again, the department lets

0:22:42.880 --> 0:22:44.840
<v Speaker 2>him go. So now they're both former cops.

0:22:44.920 --> 0:22:45.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:22:45.119 --> 0:22:47.040
<v Speaker 2>In order to start their new life together, in nineteen

0:22:47.080 --> 0:22:49.960
<v Speaker 2>eighty one, Jerry and Marcia moved to Atlanta, Georgia. That's

0:22:50.000 --> 0:22:52.920
<v Speaker 2>where Jerry gets this new job as a mechanic. Right.

0:22:53.040 --> 0:22:55.080
<v Speaker 3>Wait, but he was like he can't breathe.

0:22:55.200 --> 0:22:57.159
<v Speaker 2>Well, he eventually was able to walk again and the

0:22:57.720 --> 0:22:59.880
<v Speaker 2>pass rehability. Yeah, it took him a while, but they've

0:23:00.000 --> 0:23:02.840
<v Speaker 2>actually he got back on his speech now. Marsha, she

0:23:02.880 --> 0:23:06.080
<v Speaker 2>gets the job as a security auditor for this accounting firm, right,

0:23:06.280 --> 0:23:09.399
<v Speaker 2>and after she establishes herself at the firm, she finagles

0:23:09.400 --> 0:23:11.520
<v Speaker 2>a job for her husband, Jerry, and she's like, you know,

0:23:11.560 --> 0:23:15.359
<v Speaker 2>he's also a former cup really great guy. Fortunately, working

0:23:15.400 --> 0:23:17.560
<v Speaker 2>and living together led to stress in their marriage. Two

0:23:17.640 --> 0:23:23.880
<v Speaker 2>years later, they divorce. So Jerry those days at the firm, Yeah,

0:23:23.880 --> 0:23:26.440
<v Speaker 2>so he's working private security for a client of this firm,

0:23:26.480 --> 0:23:29.080
<v Speaker 2>this place called Dittler Brothers, right, and for them, he's

0:23:29.080 --> 0:23:32.840
<v Speaker 2>working security for their big client, a company called Simon Marketing.

0:23:33.280 --> 0:23:36.000
<v Speaker 2>That's the company that would later have a five hundred

0:23:36.080 --> 0:23:40.800
<v Speaker 2>million dollar client called McDonald's. Yeah, Simon Marketing that they're

0:23:40.840 --> 0:23:44.399
<v Speaker 2>responsible for making the Monopoly game pieces for McDonald's new

0:23:44.640 --> 0:23:48.080
<v Speaker 2>promotion Sweake. Jerry gets put in charge of overseeing the

0:23:48.119 --> 0:23:52.000
<v Speaker 2>security for the winning game pieces, and he was real diligent.

0:23:52.040 --> 0:23:54.200
<v Speaker 2>He was like super, I'm a marine, I'm a cop, right.

0:23:54.400 --> 0:23:54.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:23:54.640 --> 0:23:58.199
<v Speaker 2>The former coworker of his recalled that Jerry was suspicious

0:23:58.240 --> 0:24:00.320
<v Speaker 2>of anybody who would get near the game piece and

0:24:00.359 --> 0:24:02.760
<v Speaker 2>anybody who's on the floor. He thought anybody could be

0:24:02.760 --> 0:24:05.840
<v Speaker 2>a possible cheater. For instance, according to one former co worker,

0:24:05.960 --> 0:24:09.440
<v Speaker 2>Jerry quote inspected worker's shoes to check that they weren't

0:24:09.480 --> 0:24:11.200
<v Speaker 2>stealing McDonald's game pieces.

0:24:11.240 --> 0:24:11.760
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god.

0:24:11.800 --> 0:24:13.879
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he was officious and real delta.

0:24:13.960 --> 0:24:16.000
<v Speaker 3>He should have been like the cartels and made everyone

0:24:16.160 --> 0:24:16.720
<v Speaker 3>work naked.

0:24:17.119 --> 0:24:19.480
<v Speaker 2>There you go, that would have done it. McDonald's loves that.

0:24:19.520 --> 0:24:20.120
<v Speaker 2>I bet they.

0:24:20.200 --> 0:24:22.200
<v Speaker 3>I think that's you know, it's definitely part of their.

0:24:22.240 --> 0:24:25.480
<v Speaker 2>Hr sweatshop rules. Baby bye lo. So the diligence of

0:24:25.560 --> 0:24:29.080
<v Speaker 2>the Jerry impresses Simon Marketing. So in nineteen eighty eight

0:24:29.160 --> 0:24:31.680
<v Speaker 2>they hire him away from Dittler Brothers and put him

0:24:31.680 --> 0:24:34.160
<v Speaker 2>in charge of the security for all the Monopoly game pieces.

0:24:34.200 --> 0:24:36.120
<v Speaker 2>Because now McDonald's like, this is a huge hit. We're

0:24:36.119 --> 0:24:39.000
<v Speaker 2>going to keep doing this. Yeah, Fast Food Giant decides

0:24:39.000 --> 0:24:44.040
<v Speaker 2>they'll run two limited Monopoly games each year. Oh wow, Yeah,

0:24:44.040 --> 0:24:46.200
<v Speaker 2>I didn't realize that they're just it.

0:24:46.280 --> 0:24:46.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:24:46.720 --> 0:24:49.439
<v Speaker 2>So to create the random winning game pieces, Dittler Brothers

0:24:49.480 --> 0:24:53.720
<v Speaker 2>relies on this supercomputer, the Omega three. Right from there,

0:24:53.760 --> 0:24:56.800
<v Speaker 2>the game piece suits, they talk to it, they get

0:24:56.800 --> 0:24:59.360
<v Speaker 2>printed by a traditional printing press that runs twenty four

0:24:59.400 --> 0:25:02.080
<v Speaker 2>hours a day. How many Monopoly game pieces were they

0:25:02.080 --> 0:25:03.520
<v Speaker 2>cranking out, great question.

0:25:03.280 --> 0:25:07.040
<v Speaker 3>Elizabeth, only in the United States, also Canada.

0:25:07.160 --> 0:25:10.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, five hundred million game pieces, which was enough game

0:25:10.440 --> 0:25:13.399
<v Speaker 2>pieces that that's basically two game pieces for every American

0:25:13.480 --> 0:25:16.480
<v Speaker 2>in the US at the time. So Jerry, he's in

0:25:16.560 --> 0:25:19.720
<v Speaker 2>charge of overseeing the creation of everything, including the ultra

0:25:19.880 --> 0:25:21.879
<v Speaker 2>rare instant winner game pieces.

0:25:22.040 --> 0:25:22.200
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:25:22.359 --> 0:25:24.920
<v Speaker 2>Once created these instant winner game pieces, they would be

0:25:24.960 --> 0:25:27.000
<v Speaker 2>locked away in a vault. Like they took the security

0:25:27.119 --> 0:25:30.840
<v Speaker 2>very seriously. They're talking like they had multiple security apparatus. Namely,

0:25:30.960 --> 0:25:34.000
<v Speaker 2>they had two combination locks, a coded keypad. It was

0:25:34.040 --> 0:25:35.920
<v Speaker 2>like a nuclear sub where you had to turn two

0:25:35.960 --> 0:25:36.960
<v Speaker 2>keys at the same time.

0:25:37.160 --> 0:25:37.360
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:25:37.480 --> 0:25:39.639
<v Speaker 2>So when it's time for him to deliver the instant

0:25:39.680 --> 0:25:42.159
<v Speaker 2>winner game pieces, Jerry would take like a pair of

0:25:42.160 --> 0:25:44.199
<v Speaker 2>scissors and he would cut them out from the printing

0:25:44.240 --> 0:25:47.520
<v Speaker 2>press paper. Then he'd placed the instant winners in an envelope.

0:25:47.720 --> 0:25:50.560
<v Speaker 2>Then he'd seal that envelope with a tamper proof sticker.

0:25:51.160 --> 0:25:53.280
<v Speaker 2>Right then, that's not all then, since he's the one

0:25:53.280 --> 0:25:55.600
<v Speaker 2>who's going to carry this to the places to be

0:25:55.840 --> 0:25:58.399
<v Speaker 2>like to the companies that make the cups and the

0:25:58.440 --> 0:26:02.440
<v Speaker 2>fries and be a fit. He carries the sealed envelope

0:26:02.560 --> 0:26:05.840
<v Speaker 2>over to the McDonald's factories and then says, okay, you know,

0:26:05.960 --> 0:26:09.720
<v Speaker 2>bring me a palette of fries and then he picks one,

0:26:09.840 --> 0:26:12.359
<v Speaker 2>puts it on, mixes it all up, and goes, okay,

0:26:12.359 --> 0:26:16.400
<v Speaker 2>distribute these no way totally. So to get to these factories,

0:26:16.440 --> 0:26:19.320
<v Speaker 2>he would fly on commercial airlines, first class all the way. Baby.

0:26:19.800 --> 0:26:21.919
<v Speaker 2>But he didn't fly alone. He was escorted by a

0:26:21.960 --> 0:26:25.359
<v Speaker 2>second security official and an accountant. Like I said, like

0:26:25.400 --> 0:26:27.200
<v Speaker 2>a nuclear submarine. They always got the two keys.

0:26:27.480 --> 0:26:32.040
<v Speaker 3>Do you like the suit case, the briefcase with the.

0:26:31.160 --> 0:26:32.480
<v Speaker 2>Handcuffs, Yeah, totally.

0:26:32.800 --> 0:26:34.679
<v Speaker 3>I mean I would have requested that just because it

0:26:34.720 --> 0:26:35.480
<v Speaker 3>looks so cool.

0:26:35.560 --> 0:26:38.320
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, and people know you're important. Yeah. So

0:26:38.400 --> 0:26:41.879
<v Speaker 2>the security team Jerry and the other security official goes unnamed,

0:26:41.920 --> 0:26:44.040
<v Speaker 2>would travel to a McDonald's factory where they would then

0:26:44.080 --> 0:26:46.000
<v Speaker 2>have like us, he's had a whole forkload of like

0:26:46.080 --> 0:26:48.040
<v Speaker 2>drink cups or French fried cadamos brought over, and then

0:26:48.040 --> 0:26:50.240
<v Speaker 2>they would select a random cup and then add the

0:26:50.240 --> 0:26:52.719
<v Speaker 2>instant winter game piece, both of them watching right. Everything

0:26:52.720 --> 0:26:55.199
<v Speaker 2>has to be done in doubles, and then this is

0:26:55.320 --> 0:26:58.080
<v Speaker 2>ensuring that the winner is actually a random customer. So

0:26:58.200 --> 0:27:01.680
<v Speaker 2>he does this legitimately a few times in nineteen eighty eight.

0:27:01.720 --> 0:27:04.280
<v Speaker 2>Then in nineteen eighty nine he decides why should he

0:27:04.359 --> 0:27:07.320
<v Speaker 2>send out the instant winners to be randomly found by

0:27:07.320 --> 0:27:10.480
<v Speaker 2>some chinook when he could just as easily pretend to

0:27:10.520 --> 0:27:12.840
<v Speaker 2>affix it to a French fry container and keep it

0:27:12.880 --> 0:27:15.600
<v Speaker 2>for himself. Yeah, and then he could select the winner

0:27:15.880 --> 0:27:17.640
<v Speaker 2>of say like a big cash.

0:27:17.359 --> 0:27:19.080
<v Speaker 3>Prize, which would be him.

0:27:19.320 --> 0:27:19.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:27:19.560 --> 0:27:20.720
<v Speaker 3>Well no, no, he could.

0:27:20.560 --> 0:27:22.960
<v Speaker 2>That would be too obvious. Yeah, so that's one. I

0:27:23.040 --> 0:27:23.520
<v Speaker 2>keep that in.

0:27:23.440 --> 0:27:25.119
<v Speaker 3>Mind a lot of times with all these kind of

0:27:25.160 --> 0:27:28.720
<v Speaker 3>sweepstakes and stuff like if you are if you work

0:27:28.760 --> 0:27:31.160
<v Speaker 3>in a certain industry or you have Yeah, so he'd

0:27:31.320 --> 0:27:33.720
<v Speaker 3>have to be like outside of the family exactly.

0:27:33.960 --> 0:27:36.040
<v Speaker 2>I thought, you're usually it's the imediate family, but really

0:27:36.359 --> 0:27:39.320
<v Speaker 2>McDonald's is going to be your family. Yeah, and your neighbors,

0:27:39.600 --> 0:27:40.440
<v Speaker 2>your block, you know.

0:27:40.400 --> 0:27:44.000
<v Speaker 3>And you've ever made iicon this period in time.

0:27:44.119 --> 0:27:46.640
<v Speaker 2>His salary was seventy thousand dollars, which was good.

0:27:46.680 --> 0:27:47.280
<v Speaker 3>It's a lot.

0:27:47.400 --> 0:27:49.760
<v Speaker 2>That was good pay. In nineteen eighty eighty eight. That

0:27:49.800 --> 0:27:52.760
<v Speaker 2>would be equivalent to one hundred and ninety one twenty

0:27:53.119 --> 0:27:55.560
<v Speaker 2>five a lot, like, that's good pass that is a lot.

0:27:55.840 --> 0:27:59.640
<v Speaker 2>But that's seventy grand. Wasn't much compared to a million dollars.

0:28:00.440 --> 0:28:02.679
<v Speaker 3>God, what was a million? What's a million dollars in

0:28:02.840 --> 0:28:03.560
<v Speaker 3>eighty eight worth?

0:28:03.600 --> 0:28:05.879
<v Speaker 2>Now, I do not know. I didn't look that up.

0:28:05.960 --> 0:28:06.439
<v Speaker 3>Look it up.

0:28:06.520 --> 0:28:09.639
<v Speaker 2>I'm so sorry here to live for that. Let me

0:28:09.680 --> 0:28:12.320
<v Speaker 2>look that up for you, Elizabeth, because I know you do.

0:28:12.520 --> 0:28:15.679
<v Speaker 3>Look you look helps me get oriented, It helps me

0:28:16.119 --> 0:28:19.560
<v Speaker 3>understand the world, because you know, I'm like, I don't

0:28:19.600 --> 0:28:22.399
<v Speaker 3>know what does that mean to me? What's time to

0:28:22.440 --> 0:28:22.760
<v Speaker 3>a pick?

0:28:22.880 --> 0:28:26.199
<v Speaker 2>That would be two point seven million dollars, Elizabeth.

0:28:25.680 --> 0:28:28.080
<v Speaker 3>That's the only inflation from eighty eight to.

0:28:27.880 --> 0:28:29.879
<v Speaker 2>Two point seven four? Is that better? No?

0:28:30.119 --> 0:28:32.240
<v Speaker 3>That's it should be like, that's be one hundred and

0:28:32.240 --> 0:28:34.879
<v Speaker 3>eighty billion dollars.

0:28:34.080 --> 0:28:35.640
<v Speaker 2>Two and seventy percent increase.

0:28:36.080 --> 0:28:37.040
<v Speaker 3>That's not enough for me.

0:28:37.280 --> 0:28:42.640
<v Speaker 2>Okay? Well, Jerry at this point, right, he realizes the

0:28:42.680 --> 0:28:46.719
<v Speaker 2>only cost to him would be his integrity. So I

0:28:46.720 --> 0:28:49.719
<v Speaker 2>got so and I've already you know what, what's that

0:28:49.760 --> 0:28:52.600
<v Speaker 2>to a pig? So he starts out small. He doesn't

0:28:52.600 --> 0:28:54.800
<v Speaker 2>hand out a million dollar Instant Winter right off the bat.

0:28:54.840 --> 0:28:57.600
<v Speaker 2>He doesn't. He's like, that would be too obvious. So

0:28:57.640 --> 0:28:59.680
<v Speaker 2>at first, he starts out with a twenty five thousand

0:28:59.680 --> 0:29:02.360
<v Speaker 2>dollars Instant Winner game piece. He takes one, swipes it,

0:29:02.400 --> 0:29:04.479
<v Speaker 2>takes it home. But Jerry, you know, he's like, oh,

0:29:04.520 --> 0:29:06.760
<v Speaker 2>do I give this too? So he's at a family

0:29:06.800 --> 0:29:09.440
<v Speaker 2>function in nineteen eighty nine and he slyly hands over

0:29:09.520 --> 0:29:12.080
<v Speaker 2>to his stepbrother the winning game piece. He's like, he's

0:29:12.080 --> 0:29:16.320
<v Speaker 2>got a different last name. Oh yes, Jerry later said, quote,

0:29:16.800 --> 0:29:18.320
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if I just wanted to show him

0:29:18.360 --> 0:29:20.920
<v Speaker 2>I could do something, or was bragging or has he

0:29:20.960 --> 0:29:23.120
<v Speaker 2>also put it He may have just wanted to quote

0:29:23.400 --> 0:29:24.480
<v Speaker 2>to see if I could do it.

0:29:24.600 --> 0:29:26.120
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, just take a test run.

0:29:26.200 --> 0:29:29.360
<v Speaker 2>So then fate with a capital F stepped in. It

0:29:29.440 --> 0:29:32.240
<v Speaker 2>arrived in the form of his butcher. His trusted meat

0:29:32.280 --> 0:29:35.080
<v Speaker 2>supplier heard that Jerry was the man who ran security

0:29:35.080 --> 0:29:37.880
<v Speaker 2>for the McDonald's monopoly game, and being an ambitious and

0:29:37.960 --> 0:29:41.680
<v Speaker 2>unscrupulous man, his butcher tells Jerry he sure would like

0:29:41.760 --> 0:29:45.000
<v Speaker 2>to win that McDonald's monopoly game. And Jerry tells him,

0:29:45.040 --> 0:29:47.880
<v Speaker 2>you know, he happened to have the power to make

0:29:47.920 --> 0:29:51.880
<v Speaker 2>that happen, and so he's like, really is solid. But

0:29:52.680 --> 0:29:54.520
<v Speaker 2>he's like, but you know, I couldn't do that because

0:29:54.560 --> 0:29:57.600
<v Speaker 2>we're friends and they you know, not only that, were neighbors,

0:29:57.640 --> 0:29:59.440
<v Speaker 2>and so they'll figure it out if you're my friend

0:29:59.480 --> 0:30:01.880
<v Speaker 2>and name the butcher listens to him, he goes, you

0:30:01.920 --> 0:30:04.160
<v Speaker 2>know what, I got an idea. What if it wasn't

0:30:04.360 --> 0:30:07.760
<v Speaker 2>me who won, but instead a trusted friend of mine

0:30:08.000 --> 0:30:15.320
<v Speaker 2>who lives far away. No one would suspect that he

0:30:15.360 --> 0:30:17.640
<v Speaker 2>doesn't have to be the million dollar prize. I'm not greedy.

0:30:18.360 --> 0:30:20.760
<v Speaker 3>I like to imagine that He's like an old style

0:30:20.960 --> 0:30:24.440
<v Speaker 3>like cartoon butcher. He's like holding like a string of sausages.

0:30:26.440 --> 0:30:30.200
<v Speaker 2>He's talking a string of sausage. So he's like, well,

0:30:30.320 --> 0:30:32.720
<v Speaker 2>what if it was like a lesser instant winter game piece,

0:30:32.720 --> 0:30:35.360
<v Speaker 2>they probably wouldn't even do investigations into that, Like maybe

0:30:35.400 --> 0:30:38.160
<v Speaker 2>like one of the ten grand game pieces. Yeah, if

0:30:38.160 --> 0:30:40.880
<v Speaker 2>you could arrange that. The butcher tells them, I'd split

0:30:40.880 --> 0:30:43.320
<v Speaker 2>the winnings with you, Jair. He says, I'll give you

0:30:43.320 --> 0:30:44.480
<v Speaker 2>two grand of the winnings.

0:30:44.720 --> 0:30:46.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because someone's got to pay taxes on it.

0:30:47.640 --> 0:30:51.320
<v Speaker 2>There's that. I don't think they were thinking about the text.

0:30:52.120 --> 0:30:54.320
<v Speaker 2>So at this point they're thinking it's a surefire plan

0:30:54.360 --> 0:30:56.600
<v Speaker 2>and makes some quick cash. Right, So Jerry does it

0:30:56.880 --> 0:31:00.840
<v Speaker 2>and their fraud works perfectly, But then with the capital

0:31:00.880 --> 0:31:03.280
<v Speaker 2>left stepped back in this time, it had nothing to

0:31:03.280 --> 0:31:05.800
<v Speaker 2>do with Jerry directly, but it affected his power to

0:31:05.840 --> 0:31:08.200
<v Speaker 2>pick winners. You can see, Elizabeth. Other folks had the

0:31:08.200 --> 0:31:10.760
<v Speaker 2>same idea. They're like, what have I kept these game pieces?

0:31:11.120 --> 0:31:13.240
<v Speaker 2>So there was this guy who worked for McDonald's who

0:31:13.400 --> 0:31:17.280
<v Speaker 2>was a seventeen year old. Yeah, and he stole about

0:31:17.320 --> 0:31:20.960
<v Speaker 2>three thousand game pieces from like a restaurant. He gets caught,

0:31:21.000 --> 0:31:22.960
<v Speaker 2>he gets arrested, so McDonald's like, oh, we got to

0:31:23.000 --> 0:31:25.760
<v Speaker 2>have to come up with new security protocols. So it

0:31:25.760 --> 0:31:28.600
<v Speaker 2>would take years later for Jerry to have another chance.

0:31:28.680 --> 0:31:32.560
<v Speaker 2>In nineteen ninety five, he's finally back in a position

0:31:32.640 --> 0:31:34.680
<v Speaker 2>to get his hands on them instant Winter.

0:31:34.640 --> 0:31:36.280
<v Speaker 3>Game pill doing the same job.

0:31:36.440 --> 0:31:38.640
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, still doing the same job. They see Elizabeth.

0:31:38.640 --> 0:31:41.360
<v Speaker 2>The technology McDonald's used had changed. Now the winning game

0:31:41.400 --> 0:31:44.440
<v Speaker 2>pieces were fixed through a new process, and Jerry was

0:31:44.520 --> 0:31:47.400
<v Speaker 2>responsible for delivering the instant Winner game pieces to the

0:31:47.400 --> 0:31:49.920
<v Speaker 2>people who did the affixing. And he decides this is

0:31:49.960 --> 0:31:52.040
<v Speaker 2>his big chance to get paid. Yeah, so if you

0:31:52.040 --> 0:31:54.840
<v Speaker 2>can believe it, Fate with the capital left steps back

0:31:54.880 --> 0:31:58.360
<v Speaker 2>into his life. The maker of the tamper proof stickers

0:31:58.400 --> 0:32:01.800
<v Speaker 2>was located overseas in Hon Kong. By a mistake, one day,

0:32:01.840 --> 0:32:04.280
<v Speaker 2>the company sent a bunch of the tamper proof stickers

0:32:04.560 --> 0:32:07.320
<v Speaker 2>to Jerry directly. So now he's got a way to

0:32:07.360 --> 0:32:09.920
<v Speaker 2>seal the envelope after he opens the envelope, and nobody

0:32:09.960 --> 0:32:12.920
<v Speaker 2>would be the wiser. So he's in this enviable position

0:32:12.960 --> 0:32:15.120
<v Speaker 2>to being the one guy who can decide who could

0:32:15.200 --> 0:32:18.800
<v Speaker 2>win the big cash prizes. Forget you supercomputer. It's all

0:32:18.840 --> 0:32:22.120
<v Speaker 2>about jer Bear. So at this point, remember how he

0:32:22.200 --> 0:32:25.360
<v Speaker 2>traveled with a second security official an accountant, So there's

0:32:25.400 --> 0:32:28.080
<v Speaker 2>this double fail safe, right, so that'd be no cheating.

0:32:28.440 --> 0:32:30.120
<v Speaker 2>Jerry would just have to think of a way to

0:32:30.160 --> 0:32:32.719
<v Speaker 2>get around this one person. That's all he to do.

0:32:33.400 --> 0:32:35.440
<v Speaker 2>And then, you know, or he could cut them in

0:32:35.480 --> 0:32:38.080
<v Speaker 2>on the deal. That would be an ancientous But you

0:32:38.080 --> 0:32:40.240
<v Speaker 2>know what they say about the one fool proof way

0:32:40.760 --> 0:32:43.560
<v Speaker 2>for two people to keep a secret, right is to

0:32:43.640 --> 0:32:46.160
<v Speaker 2>kill one of the other people or kill the other person.

0:32:46.400 --> 0:32:49.360
<v Speaker 2>And since we have a ninety nine percent murder free guarantee,

0:32:50.560 --> 0:32:53.520
<v Speaker 2>I can promise you this Jerry didn't murk anyone good.

0:32:53.600 --> 0:32:56.960
<v Speaker 2>So how does Jerry get around this second security official?

0:32:57.360 --> 0:33:00.440
<v Speaker 2>Really great question, Elizabeth. To answer that, I'd like you

0:33:00.480 --> 0:33:12.600
<v Speaker 2>to close your eyes and I'd like you to picture it.

0:33:12.600 --> 0:33:15.479
<v Speaker 2>It's mid morning, and at the moment you are waiting

0:33:15.600 --> 0:33:17.960
<v Speaker 2>for some action, you hear the familiar sound of water

0:33:18.000 --> 0:33:21.320
<v Speaker 2>splashing against a sink basin. This is soon followed by

0:33:21.320 --> 0:33:24.200
<v Speaker 2>the bang of a hand against an oversized metal button,

0:33:24.360 --> 0:33:27.120
<v Speaker 2>which is followed by the hum and below of a

0:33:27.160 --> 0:33:30.280
<v Speaker 2>hand dryer, then the sound of a man's shoes across

0:33:30.320 --> 0:33:34.200
<v Speaker 2>a tiled floor, punctuated by a door opening and then closing,

0:33:34.480 --> 0:33:38.120
<v Speaker 2>and finally silence, and you you go back to waiting.

0:33:38.520 --> 0:33:40.840
<v Speaker 2>A moment later, though, you hear the door open again,

0:33:41.280 --> 0:33:44.960
<v Speaker 2>you eagerly perk up your attention. You hear a man's footsteps,

0:33:45.160 --> 0:33:47.720
<v Speaker 2>the rhythm of dress shoes as they crossed the tile floor,

0:33:47.760 --> 0:33:50.760
<v Speaker 2>and then the squeak of hinges as a partition door

0:33:50.840 --> 0:33:54.520
<v Speaker 2>swings open to a bathroom stall. It's your stall, and

0:33:54.560 --> 0:33:56.960
<v Speaker 2>then you see him, a middle aged man a little heavy, said,

0:33:56.960 --> 0:33:59.760
<v Speaker 2>he looks like a regular business traveler. He closes the

0:33:59.760 --> 0:34:02.960
<v Speaker 2>stall behind him, and you wait, eager to be of

0:34:03.000 --> 0:34:06.440
<v Speaker 2>assistance because you, Elizabeth, are a roll of toilet paper

0:34:06.520 --> 0:34:09.920
<v Speaker 2>in an airport men's room. The man takes off his

0:34:09.960 --> 0:34:11.759
<v Speaker 2>blazer hangs it on the hook of the stall door.

0:34:11.760 --> 0:34:13.960
<v Speaker 2>But then he doesn't unzip and drop his slacks and

0:34:14.000 --> 0:34:16.439
<v Speaker 2>take a seat on the toilet. No, Instead, you watch

0:34:16.480 --> 0:34:18.960
<v Speaker 2>as he puts on a pair of disposable latex gloves.

0:34:19.160 --> 0:34:21.920
<v Speaker 2>Then he reaches into his vest and he retrieves an envelope.

0:34:22.239 --> 0:34:24.480
<v Speaker 2>That's odd, you think, But it's not drugs or even

0:34:24.560 --> 0:34:26.680
<v Speaker 2>money that he pulls out. Instead, he carefully opens the

0:34:26.760 --> 0:34:28.920
<v Speaker 2>envelope and pulls out what looks to be a small

0:34:29.000 --> 0:34:32.640
<v Speaker 2>printed sticker. You're unsure what you're looking at. He rifles

0:34:32.680 --> 0:34:36.720
<v Speaker 2>through the printed squares until he's satisfied. A wide smile

0:34:36.800 --> 0:34:40.000
<v Speaker 2>spreads across his face. One of his latex hands reaches

0:34:40.040 --> 0:34:43.080
<v Speaker 2>into his slacks pocket pulls out a ziplock sandwich bag.

0:34:43.360 --> 0:34:46.280
<v Speaker 2>He carefully places the small printed square into the ziplock

0:34:46.360 --> 0:34:49.640
<v Speaker 2>sandwich bag. He seals that and shoves it into a

0:34:49.680 --> 0:34:52.080
<v Speaker 2>pocket of his slacks. Then he reaches into the other

0:34:52.120 --> 0:34:55.040
<v Speaker 2>pocket and pulls out a similar looking printed square and

0:34:55.080 --> 0:34:57.600
<v Speaker 2>places that one in the envelope, taking the place of

0:34:57.600 --> 0:35:00.000
<v Speaker 2>the one he's just taken out. And then you watch it.

0:35:00.040 --> 0:35:03.200
<v Speaker 2>He pulls out from his pants pocket an iridescent metal sticker.

0:35:03.480 --> 0:35:06.080
<v Speaker 2>He holds it in his teeth. That's curious. Then you

0:35:06.120 --> 0:35:09.800
<v Speaker 2>watches he reseals the envelope. He uses the metal sticker

0:35:09.840 --> 0:35:13.600
<v Speaker 2>to secure it closed. Ah, it's a security sticker. You

0:35:13.640 --> 0:35:16.279
<v Speaker 2>think you're a smart roll at toilet paper. The man

0:35:16.360 --> 0:35:20.719
<v Speaker 2>chuckles to himself proudly, and he says, too easy. Then

0:35:20.760 --> 0:35:23.600
<v Speaker 2>he returns the envelope to his vest pocket. He reaches back,

0:35:23.719 --> 0:35:26.080
<v Speaker 2>grabs his blazer, pulls an arm for a sleeve, and

0:35:26.120 --> 0:35:28.880
<v Speaker 2>then another. He chuckles again to himself, and he says,

0:35:29.640 --> 0:35:32.880
<v Speaker 2>a perfect crime. He flushes the toilet as cover, but

0:35:33.000 --> 0:35:36.600
<v Speaker 2>he never touches a square of your soft white toilet paper. Instead,

0:35:36.719 --> 0:35:39.080
<v Speaker 2>he opens a stall door. You just hear him walk off.

0:35:39.080 --> 0:35:41.879
<v Speaker 2>The door opens, he doesn't wash his hands, and then

0:35:41.920 --> 0:35:44.360
<v Speaker 2>it closes. You don't know it, but you just watched

0:35:44.360 --> 0:35:46.200
<v Speaker 2>a man steal a million dollars.

0:35:46.360 --> 0:35:47.000
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god.

0:35:47.719 --> 0:35:50.480
<v Speaker 2>So there you go, Elizabeth. That's how Jerry worked his scam.

0:35:50.719 --> 0:35:54.160
<v Speaker 2>He used the men's room at the airport. Why because

0:35:54.200 --> 0:35:56.880
<v Speaker 2>the second security expert, the accountant, was a woman.

0:35:57.480 --> 0:35:59.960
<v Speaker 3>Oh well, even so he could go into the stall

0:36:00.160 --> 0:36:01.480
<v Speaker 3>totally total privacy.

0:36:01.560 --> 0:36:04.200
<v Speaker 2>But then he like you would hear maybe the envelope

0:36:04.800 --> 0:36:06.680
<v Speaker 2>when any other guy came in, like, oh bathroom, What

0:36:06.719 --> 0:36:07.120
<v Speaker 2>a good.

0:36:07.000 --> 0:36:08.760
<v Speaker 3>Idea, right right, that's amazing.

0:36:08.840 --> 0:36:10.400
<v Speaker 2>So now that he has his method all worked out,

0:36:10.440 --> 0:36:12.040
<v Speaker 2>the only other thing he needs to do was to

0:36:12.120 --> 0:36:14.480
<v Speaker 2>salve his soul from what he plans to do with

0:36:14.520 --> 0:36:16.960
<v Speaker 2>these big cash prize winners. Yeah, and also he wanted

0:36:16.960 --> 0:36:19.080
<v Speaker 2>to do some sort of like you know, grand gesture,

0:36:19.120 --> 0:36:21.719
<v Speaker 2>something that might help him out down the line, like

0:36:21.800 --> 0:36:24.160
<v Speaker 2>say that with a judge should he ever get caught

0:36:24.200 --> 0:36:26.239
<v Speaker 2>in the future. Sure, So what did Uncle Jerry do

0:36:26.440 --> 0:36:28.400
<v Speaker 2>to both salve his soul and to look out for

0:36:28.400 --> 0:36:29.480
<v Speaker 2>his future legal defense?

0:36:29.560 --> 0:36:30.600
<v Speaker 3>That's a great question, SARAE.

0:36:30.640 --> 0:36:33.200
<v Speaker 2>Well. On November twelfth, nineteen ninety five, working at these

0:36:33.239 --> 0:36:38.320
<v Speaker 2>Saint Judes Children's Research Hospital in Tennessee, a donation's clerk

0:36:38.400 --> 0:36:41.160
<v Speaker 2>opened an envelope that had a greeting card in it.

0:36:41.239 --> 0:36:44.440
<v Speaker 2>The donation clerk spotted secreted away inside of the greeting

0:36:44.480 --> 0:36:48.840
<v Speaker 2>card a McDonald's Monopoly game piece. It was an instant winner.

0:36:49.120 --> 0:36:51.600
<v Speaker 2>And not just any instant winner, Elizabeth, it was the

0:36:51.600 --> 0:36:55.440
<v Speaker 2>big one, a one million dollar instant winner, that's right.

0:36:55.440 --> 0:36:57.160
<v Speaker 2>And he sent it to Saint Jude's.

0:36:57.400 --> 0:36:58.200
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god.

0:36:58.200 --> 0:37:00.359
<v Speaker 2>The donation clerk, she can't believe her eyes. Right, she's

0:37:00.400 --> 0:37:02.880
<v Speaker 2>like losing it. And if you can believe it, she

0:37:02.880 --> 0:37:05.239
<v Speaker 2>didn't keep it for herself. She's like recognized this is

0:37:05.280 --> 0:37:07.520
<v Speaker 2>gonna be so much for the kids she works at

0:37:07.520 --> 0:37:10.280
<v Speaker 2>Saint Jus, so she hands it over to her boss.

0:37:10.360 --> 0:37:14.360
<v Speaker 2>They're equally flabbergasting. Who on earth would get the million

0:37:14.400 --> 0:37:17.160
<v Speaker 2>dollar instant Winder game piece and then give it away?

0:37:17.400 --> 0:37:20.720
<v Speaker 2>They can't believe Saint Jude's incredible luck, the warm hearted

0:37:20.800 --> 0:37:24.600
<v Speaker 2>generosity of this anonymous donor, because there was no note,

0:37:24.640 --> 0:37:28.920
<v Speaker 2>no signature, nothing, just a postmark that later revealed that

0:37:28.960 --> 0:37:31.200
<v Speaker 2>it was sent from Dallas on the day after Thanksgiving.

0:37:31.800 --> 0:37:34.800
<v Speaker 2>Inside of the unmarked envelope was just the instant winter ticket.

0:37:34.800 --> 0:37:36.680
<v Speaker 2>That was it. Because The New York Times would later

0:37:36.719 --> 0:37:39.520
<v Speaker 2>report officials from McDonald's flew out to Saint Jude's to

0:37:39.560 --> 0:37:42.640
<v Speaker 2>authenticate the winning game piece, it was confirmed to be legit.

0:37:42.840 --> 0:37:44.520
<v Speaker 2>After that they hold a press conference.

0:37:44.600 --> 0:37:46.319
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because that's a great story.

0:37:46.120 --> 0:37:48.839
<v Speaker 2>Right, they loved it. Saint Jude's children to hospital a bunch

0:37:48.840 --> 0:37:51.359
<v Speaker 2>officials that you've got Ronald McDonald with his red fright

0:37:51.400 --> 0:37:54.080
<v Speaker 2>wig out there doing like they a pr although.

0:37:53.760 --> 0:37:56.239
<v Speaker 3>They're like duking it out the Ronald McDonald house and

0:37:56.320 --> 0:37:58.680
<v Speaker 3>saintscho good point they were handed him.

0:37:58.920 --> 0:38:01.520
<v Speaker 2>They probably do now some they were like happy to

0:38:01.600 --> 0:38:04.160
<v Speaker 2>now some kind heart had donated one of the three

0:38:04.360 --> 0:38:08.000
<v Speaker 2>one million dollar prizes from this semi annual monopoly game.

0:38:08.400 --> 0:38:12.120
<v Speaker 2>Now Saint Jude's would receive annual installments of fifty thousand

0:38:12.200 --> 0:38:15.520
<v Speaker 2>dollars to be paid over twenty years. So while both

0:38:15.600 --> 0:38:19.000
<v Speaker 2>the Saint Jud's McDonald's opted to honor the wishes of

0:38:19.040 --> 0:38:21.920
<v Speaker 2>the anonymous donor. The New York Times is like, no, no, no,

0:38:21.960 --> 0:38:23.480
<v Speaker 2>let's see if we can figure out where this is.

0:38:23.600 --> 0:38:25.080
<v Speaker 3>Well, you know, because like they've got to be just

0:38:25.200 --> 0:38:28.319
<v Speaker 3>so relieved that it's not some dirt bag who like

0:38:28.440 --> 0:38:31.279
<v Speaker 3>smacks his kids on TV and from like hitting it

0:38:31.400 --> 0:38:33.400
<v Speaker 3>like just some horrible person.

0:38:33.520 --> 0:38:34.439
<v Speaker 2>Keep that thought in mind.

0:38:34.600 --> 0:38:39.040
<v Speaker 3>Oh boy, try try the.

0:38:38.960 --> 0:38:41.600
<v Speaker 2>New York Times might They couldn't figure out who'd given

0:38:41.600 --> 0:38:43.600
<v Speaker 2>away a million dollars. They do a full on investigation.

0:38:43.840 --> 0:38:46.960
<v Speaker 2>They can't find Jerry. Uncle Jerry's secret is safe yea.

0:38:47.080 --> 0:38:49.120
<v Speaker 2>So now he's feeling confident he can get away with

0:38:49.160 --> 0:38:52.280
<v Speaker 2>it again. The New York Times couldn't find him. Oh Butler,

0:38:52.600 --> 0:38:55.239
<v Speaker 2>He makes plans to select a new big winner. This

0:38:55.280 --> 0:38:57.400
<v Speaker 2>time it would be someone he knew, and just like

0:38:57.440 --> 0:38:59.239
<v Speaker 2>as Butcher had pitched it to him way back in

0:38:59.280 --> 0:39:01.280
<v Speaker 2>the day, he would get a cut of the winnings.

0:39:01.400 --> 0:39:01.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:39:01.880 --> 0:39:03.920
<v Speaker 2>So, Elizabeth, let's say you had the power to hand

0:39:03.960 --> 0:39:06.360
<v Speaker 2>out big cash prizes, like in the neighborhood of one

0:39:06.440 --> 0:39:08.680
<v Speaker 2>hundreds of thousands of dollars or even a million dollars,

0:39:09.040 --> 0:39:10.960
<v Speaker 2>how would you go about arranging it. Who would you trust? Like,

0:39:10.960 --> 0:39:12.719
<v Speaker 2>who would you even want to help out like that?

0:39:12.880 --> 0:39:15.799
<v Speaker 3>If I'm going to be criminal about it, I don't know.

0:39:15.800 --> 0:39:19.360
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. Why would I announce that on this platform?

0:39:19.840 --> 0:39:21.080
<v Speaker 3>You're not going to trap me?

0:39:21.640 --> 0:39:24.319
<v Speaker 2>Well, I'll tell you this much. Uncle Jerry goes back

0:39:24.360 --> 0:39:27.200
<v Speaker 2>to his butcher Nicess, So take a little break, and

0:39:27.200 --> 0:39:29.560
<v Speaker 2>after these messages, I'll tell you how it plays out

0:39:29.600 --> 0:39:53.759
<v Speaker 2>for Uncle Jair and his meat supplier. Elizabeth. You're ready

0:39:53.760 --> 0:39:55.239
<v Speaker 2>to hear more about Uncle Jair and how it all

0:39:55.280 --> 0:39:55.719
<v Speaker 2>goes down.

0:39:56.200 --> 0:39:58.680
<v Speaker 3>I am. He has a very close relationship with his Brodcher.

0:39:58.800 --> 0:39:59.719
<v Speaker 2>He does, they were tight.

0:40:00.000 --> 0:40:02.080
<v Speaker 3>No, I don't know my butcher like that. I don't

0:40:02.280 --> 0:40:04.239
<v Speaker 3>have a butcher. But if I did, I wouldn't know him.

0:40:04.280 --> 0:40:08.280
<v Speaker 2>Like, oh, you gotta have a guy guy. So Uncle Jerry,

0:40:08.360 --> 0:40:10.480
<v Speaker 2>since it worked so well the first time, right, he

0:40:10.520 --> 0:40:13.360
<v Speaker 2>pitches his butcher on the idea of rigging the game again.

0:40:13.640 --> 0:40:15.560
<v Speaker 2>His butcher, though, he's like, you know you can't win

0:40:15.600 --> 0:40:17.680
<v Speaker 2>it for the same reason as before. You're my friend,

0:40:17.760 --> 0:40:19.520
<v Speaker 2>you're my neighbor, you live down the street from me,

0:40:19.640 --> 0:40:21.279
<v Speaker 2>Like it'll be too obvious, Yeah, but if you can

0:40:21.320 --> 0:40:24.400
<v Speaker 2>find someone you trust, I can make it happen. So

0:40:24.480 --> 0:40:28.160
<v Speaker 2>his butcher's like, yeah, totally, my sister I can trust her.

0:40:28.600 --> 0:40:31.440
<v Speaker 2>She lives in Maryland, that states away. Yeah, So their

0:40:31.480 --> 0:40:33.760
<v Speaker 2>plan is simple. The butcher would go visit his sister

0:40:34.120 --> 0:40:36.080
<v Speaker 2>and she would be the one to buy some food

0:40:36.120 --> 0:40:38.680
<v Speaker 2>from McDonald's and then she would say, oh, my goodness.

0:40:38.280 --> 0:40:40.319
<v Speaker 3>I won the instant winner game guyes.

0:40:40.520 --> 0:40:43.279
<v Speaker 2>And unlike with Saint Jude's, he didn't, you know, go

0:40:43.360 --> 0:40:45.720
<v Speaker 2>with a million dollar prize. He started small. He offered

0:40:45.719 --> 0:40:48.600
<v Speaker 2>his butcher and the sister a two hundred thousand winning

0:40:48.640 --> 0:40:51.160
<v Speaker 2>game piece. Okay right, and in his for his cut,

0:40:51.239 --> 0:40:54.120
<v Speaker 2>he wanted forty five grand. Not bad, right. The only

0:40:54.160 --> 0:40:56.440
<v Speaker 2>trouble was his butcher went up to Maryland and instead

0:40:56.480 --> 0:40:59.000
<v Speaker 2>of his sister, he claimed he won the two hundred

0:40:59.040 --> 0:41:02.719
<v Speaker 2>dollars tramps. Jerry has no idea he's doing this. He

0:41:02.760 --> 0:41:04.959
<v Speaker 2>finds out when he sees his butcher on tight TV

0:41:05.320 --> 0:41:09.359
<v Speaker 2>celebrating his big win. Oh no, but worse than that,

0:41:09.640 --> 0:41:12.640
<v Speaker 2>the butcher stiffed Jerry for his cut. He only gave

0:41:12.719 --> 0:41:15.799
<v Speaker 2>him four grand instead of forty five. He has, what's

0:41:15.840 --> 0:41:18.359
<v Speaker 2>Jerry gonna do? Yeah, he gotta called cops exactly. So

0:41:18.800 --> 0:41:21.360
<v Speaker 2>Jerry learned a hard lesson about crime that day. He

0:41:21.400 --> 0:41:23.560
<v Speaker 2>also learned that he needed someone he could trust if

0:41:23.560 --> 0:41:26.160
<v Speaker 2>he wanted to keep rigging the Big Tunnel's Monopoly game.

0:41:26.400 --> 0:41:28.360
<v Speaker 2>But when you know it, yet again, Fate with a

0:41:28.400 --> 0:41:31.360
<v Speaker 2>capital F steps in. He's in the Atlanta airport and

0:41:31.360 --> 0:41:35.800
<v Speaker 2>he meets a man named Gennaro Colombo, who was described

0:41:35.840 --> 0:41:38.279
<v Speaker 2>as looking a lot like my man al Capone and

0:41:38.400 --> 0:41:40.920
<v Speaker 2>had the morality to match. So the two men they

0:41:40.960 --> 0:41:43.120
<v Speaker 2>get to talking. Jerry asked Colombo, Hey, where are you

0:41:43.160 --> 0:41:47.120
<v Speaker 2>flying to? And Gennaro Columbu's like, hey, yeah. He pulls

0:41:47.120 --> 0:41:49.520
<v Speaker 2>out this huge wad of one hundred dollars bills and

0:41:49.520 --> 0:41:52.160
<v Speaker 2>he says, I'm headed to Atlantic City and this gets

0:41:52.200 --> 0:41:54.200
<v Speaker 2>the men talking, like this is my kind of guy.

0:41:54.239 --> 0:41:56.440
<v Speaker 2>So Colombo tells the former cop that he is a

0:41:56.480 --> 0:41:59.160
<v Speaker 2>member of the Colombo crime Family aka one of the

0:41:59.200 --> 0:41:59.920
<v Speaker 2>Five Families of.

0:42:01.440 --> 0:42:01.879
<v Speaker 3>These things.

0:42:02.040 --> 0:42:04.279
<v Speaker 2>He's like, I'm a made man, a real life mobster. Right,

0:42:04.840 --> 0:42:06.400
<v Speaker 2>but he lives in South Carolina.

0:42:06.760 --> 0:42:09.400
<v Speaker 3>Okay, so no so, because that's where he ran.

0:42:09.280 --> 0:42:12.520
<v Speaker 2>An underground casino and sports book. He also had a

0:42:12.520 --> 0:42:15.480
<v Speaker 2>strip club like the Bottom Bang Run Sopranos, Right, But

0:42:15.560 --> 0:42:17.080
<v Speaker 2>in the South, things were a little weird, like they

0:42:17.160 --> 0:42:19.960
<v Speaker 2>especially about strip clubs. So when he wanted to expand

0:42:20.000 --> 0:42:22.759
<v Speaker 2>his business into Georgia, Colombo had to find a way

0:42:22.760 --> 0:42:25.160
<v Speaker 2>to get around the laws like the like the zoning.

0:42:25.680 --> 0:42:27.680
<v Speaker 2>So when he opened his strip club in Georgia, he

0:42:27.719 --> 0:42:31.680
<v Speaker 2>called it a church. Yes, he named his new strip

0:42:31.719 --> 0:42:33.360
<v Speaker 2>club the Church of the Fuzzy Bunnies.

0:42:33.800 --> 0:42:34.200
<v Speaker 3>Stop.

0:42:34.920 --> 0:42:37.200
<v Speaker 2>He told Jerry, you know what I got to He

0:42:37.280 --> 0:42:39.239
<v Speaker 2>came to me. I had this dream and God came

0:42:39.280 --> 0:42:41.480
<v Speaker 2>to me and told me to start a church.

0:42:42.200 --> 0:42:44.880
<v Speaker 3>It's called the Church of the Fuzzy Bunny Bunnies.

0:42:45.200 --> 0:42:48.080
<v Speaker 2>So this impresses Jerry. He's like, man, you're a real criminal.

0:42:48.280 --> 0:42:51.640
<v Speaker 3>Oh wait, So Jerry, do you not have any close friends.

0:42:51.680 --> 0:42:54.120
<v Speaker 3>Like You're going up to people in the airport that

0:42:54.160 --> 0:42:57.440
<v Speaker 3>you meet who claimed to be mobsters, look like al Capone,

0:42:57.600 --> 0:43:00.400
<v Speaker 3>look like a Capone and tell you, hey, nice to

0:43:00.440 --> 0:43:01.440
<v Speaker 3>meet you. I'm a mobster.

0:43:02.120 --> 0:43:04.240
<v Speaker 2>Well they took a little bit, but they got there. Yeah.

0:43:04.320 --> 0:43:06.000
<v Speaker 2>So he's like, well, this guy, he's like me. He

0:43:06.080 --> 0:43:07.560
<v Speaker 2>likes to get around the rules. He knows how to

0:43:07.560 --> 0:43:10.000
<v Speaker 2>do it. So at some point Jerry tells Colombo but

0:43:10.080 --> 0:43:12.239
<v Speaker 2>he does for a living and naturally a made man

0:43:12.320 --> 0:43:14.600
<v Speaker 2>like Colombo. He sees dollars signed, right, So the two

0:43:14.680 --> 0:43:18.399
<v Speaker 2>get to talking more, and then later that year they

0:43:18.440 --> 0:43:22.080
<v Speaker 2>reconnect and Jerry gives Colombo an instant Winter Game piece.

0:43:22.640 --> 0:43:27.600
<v Speaker 2>Not like recently we got the grand Jeep, Grand Cherokee

0:43:27.719 --> 0:43:30.200
<v Speaker 2>Dodge Viper. Yeah. So but once he's confirmed as the

0:43:30.239 --> 0:43:33.000
<v Speaker 2>winner instead of the car, Colombo takes the cash. He's like,

0:43:33.000 --> 0:43:37.960
<v Speaker 2>what's the cash value? So it's Colombo. He becomes Jerry's

0:43:38.000 --> 0:43:40.640
<v Speaker 2>new trusted confidant, right, he's on the inside that he

0:43:40.719 --> 0:43:43.640
<v Speaker 2>becomes such fast friends. He gives Jerry a new nickname, Uncle.

0:43:43.719 --> 0:43:47.960
<v Speaker 2>Jerry becomes totally together. The two then get into work, right,

0:43:47.960 --> 0:43:51.200
<v Speaker 2>they distribute instant Winter game pieces and not more cars.

0:43:51.200 --> 0:43:53.400
<v Speaker 2>Now they start going for real money. And so Jerry

0:43:53.400 --> 0:43:55.160
<v Speaker 2>trusts this mobster Colombo to help.

0:43:55.040 --> 0:43:57.680
<v Speaker 3>Him find legitimate mobster.

0:43:57.760 --> 0:43:59.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah he is. He is a legitimate member of the

0:43:59.640 --> 0:44:02.360
<v Speaker 2>columb Both. No, but you know he's a South Carolina

0:44:02.640 --> 0:44:04.839
<v Speaker 2>He tacked the family, kicked him out in New Jersey.

0:44:04.600 --> 0:44:06.520
<v Speaker 3>Totally kicked him out and sent him to South.

0:44:06.280 --> 0:44:09.600
<v Speaker 2>Carolina totally not too far south because we can't get

0:44:09.640 --> 0:44:11.919
<v Speaker 2>into the traffic conti way, you know, exactly you can't

0:44:11.960 --> 0:44:14.960
<v Speaker 2>go all the way to Florida Miami. It's gonna be

0:44:14.960 --> 0:44:15.799
<v Speaker 2>a problem.

0:44:15.480 --> 0:44:17.680
<v Speaker 3>Where you're going to stick out like a sore thumb.

0:44:17.880 --> 0:44:19.600
<v Speaker 3>So South Carolina.

0:44:19.320 --> 0:44:21.840
<v Speaker 2>Exactly, you would think. So one of the winners that

0:44:21.920 --> 0:44:24.480
<v Speaker 2>Colombo picks because he's the one now in charge of

0:44:24.480 --> 0:44:27.200
<v Speaker 2>finding new winners that they can trust, and they both

0:44:27.280 --> 0:44:29.160
<v Speaker 2>now get to take a big cut from him, he's like, oh,

0:44:29.160 --> 0:44:32.360
<v Speaker 2>I got the perfect one. My wife's father. So he

0:44:32.480 --> 0:44:34.600
<v Speaker 2>becomes the million dollar winner, right.

0:44:34.680 --> 0:44:37.080
<v Speaker 3>So wait, he wins a car in his name, and

0:44:37.120 --> 0:44:38.600
<v Speaker 3>then his father in law is going to.

0:44:38.600 --> 0:44:40.880
<v Speaker 2>Be and then it gets better because the next million

0:44:40.920 --> 0:44:42.879
<v Speaker 2>dollar winter he picks out is his brother in law.

0:44:43.400 --> 0:44:45.840
<v Speaker 3>These are just a brain trusts.

0:44:47.040 --> 0:44:50.439
<v Speaker 2>And this time, unlike his butcher, they pay Jerry his cut. Right,

0:44:50.640 --> 0:44:53.640
<v Speaker 2>So this is starts a run of million dollar winners.

0:44:53.760 --> 0:44:59.400
<v Speaker 3>So wait, so his brother, his father in law.

0:44:58.239 --> 0:45:01.400
<v Speaker 2>All these winners are hand selected by Colombo and his wife, right,

0:45:01.480 --> 0:45:04.520
<v Speaker 2>his wife Robin. Now, in nineteen ninety seven, Jerry meets

0:45:04.560 --> 0:45:08.160
<v Speaker 2>a new potential big winner in an Applebee's in Jacksonville, Florida.

0:45:08.239 --> 0:45:12.200
<v Speaker 3>What is wrong with this man? Is he just also?

0:45:12.320 --> 0:45:13.400
<v Speaker 3>Is he just chatty?

0:45:13.560 --> 0:45:13.719
<v Speaker 2>Like?

0:45:14.719 --> 0:45:17.080
<v Speaker 3>When's the last time you made a friend in an airport.

0:45:17.600 --> 0:45:19.839
<v Speaker 2>Oh, don't ask me these questions. You know, I make

0:45:19.880 --> 0:45:21.279
<v Speaker 2>friends with places.

0:45:21.320 --> 0:45:21.800
<v Speaker 3>Nobody.

0:45:22.000 --> 0:45:23.800
<v Speaker 2>I told her this, I will talk to an airport.

0:45:23.880 --> 0:45:25.600
<v Speaker 2>I talked to more people in public than I do

0:45:25.719 --> 0:45:26.760
<v Speaker 2>like in my private life.

0:45:26.840 --> 0:45:30.239
<v Speaker 3>I I'll chat with people, but I'm not going to

0:45:30.320 --> 0:45:32.080
<v Speaker 3>like share my information with them.

0:45:32.280 --> 0:45:34.600
<v Speaker 2>Oh no, people I trustworthy. I don't tell HI much

0:45:34.600 --> 0:45:34.920
<v Speaker 2>about me.

0:45:35.040 --> 0:45:36.359
<v Speaker 3>No what I'm saying, I'm not going to make a

0:45:36.360 --> 0:45:38.719
<v Speaker 3>friend in an airport. Get out of here. I got

0:45:38.800 --> 0:45:41.359
<v Speaker 3>enough friends. I don't need you people. I'm not gonna

0:45:41.400 --> 0:45:42.560
<v Speaker 3>go Well, first of all, I wouldn't go on an

0:45:42.560 --> 0:45:44.320
<v Speaker 3>Applebee's if I were in there. I'm not going to

0:45:44.400 --> 0:45:47.200
<v Speaker 3>make friends. To get out of there as fast as

0:45:47.200 --> 0:45:48.320
<v Speaker 3>I can.

0:45:48.560 --> 0:45:52.440
<v Speaker 2>So Columbo's wife, Robin, introduces Jerry to her friend, a

0:45:52.440 --> 0:45:55.400
<v Speaker 2>woman named Gloria. Now, Jerry asked her, like, how much

0:45:55.440 --> 0:45:57.440
<v Speaker 2>would you pay for an instant winter game piece? She

0:45:57.480 --> 0:46:00.440
<v Speaker 2>says she could get him forty grand in cash. Jerry's

0:46:00.480 --> 0:46:03.000
<v Speaker 2>like deal. So a few weeks later he meets her

0:46:03.040 --> 0:46:05.759
<v Speaker 2>alongside Interstate ninety five. That's the one that runs up

0:46:05.800 --> 0:46:08.680
<v Speaker 2>and down the Eastern seaboard, the Big Dog ninety five. Yes,

0:46:08.719 --> 0:46:11.480
<v Speaker 2>so Gloria hands him forty grand in cash. He hands

0:46:11.520 --> 0:46:13.720
<v Speaker 2>her a tiny bottle I imagine like a liquor bottle,

0:46:13.760 --> 0:46:16.120
<v Speaker 2>like one of those air like airplane liquor bottles, with

0:46:16.200 --> 0:46:18.880
<v Speaker 2>a with a winning piece inside. And you have to

0:46:18.880 --> 0:46:20.520
<v Speaker 2>assume he used gloves to make sure he left a

0:46:20.600 --> 0:46:22.000
<v Speaker 2>fingerprints on the game piece.

0:46:22.920 --> 0:46:25.080
<v Speaker 3>Make sure it's fully dry inside, right.

0:46:24.960 --> 0:46:26.839
<v Speaker 2>One of the thing. Now, Gloria drives back to South

0:46:26.880 --> 0:46:29.680
<v Speaker 2>Carolina to buy a McDonald's meal deal and discover her

0:46:29.719 --> 0:46:31.080
<v Speaker 2>winning game. Pole on.

0:46:31.200 --> 0:46:34.520
<v Speaker 3>So this is just a rando from Applebee's.

0:46:34.960 --> 0:46:39.200
<v Speaker 2>No, No, robin is is the Columbo's wife. The new

0:46:39.440 --> 0:46:42.080
<v Speaker 2>rando is Gloria her friend. He doesn't know.

0:46:42.000 --> 0:46:43.959
<v Speaker 3>Her, Okay, I get it, okay, right, So.

0:46:44.040 --> 0:46:46.759
<v Speaker 2>She goes back to South Carolina, buys a McDonald's meal

0:46:46.800 --> 0:46:48.520
<v Speaker 2>deal and then goes, oh my goodness, look I won.

0:46:49.040 --> 0:46:51.839
<v Speaker 2>And then she goes to Colombo with He takes her

0:46:51.880 --> 0:46:54.000
<v Speaker 2>to the fast food spot and then he coaches her

0:46:54.040 --> 0:46:56.319
<v Speaker 2>on how to fake find the instant winners. Okay, look,

0:46:56.320 --> 0:46:58.040
<v Speaker 2>here's what you want to do, right, And then he

0:46:58.120 --> 0:47:00.399
<v Speaker 2>waits in the car well. She goes in and buys

0:47:00.400 --> 0:47:02.839
<v Speaker 2>her big Mac or whatever. And because she's a terrible liar.

0:47:02.960 --> 0:47:05.719
<v Speaker 2>Nervous about getting caught, Gloria does what all liars do.

0:47:05.840 --> 0:47:08.360
<v Speaker 2>She tells this rambling story about how she found the

0:47:08.400 --> 0:47:10.319
<v Speaker 2>winning game piece while she was cleaning out her car.

0:47:10.400 --> 0:47:13.000
<v Speaker 2>And it was a kind of like a child would tell, right,

0:47:13.080 --> 0:47:15.040
<v Speaker 2>but it works perfectly, So far, so good.

0:47:15.360 --> 0:47:18.360
<v Speaker 3>All these are collected in South Carolina.

0:47:17.920 --> 0:47:19.640
<v Speaker 2>For the most part, so or even.

0:47:19.480 --> 0:47:22.400
<v Speaker 3>If McDonald's were so stupid that they just thought, oh,

0:47:23.440 --> 0:47:25.759
<v Speaker 3>then it makes it makes Jerry look bad like you're

0:47:25.760 --> 0:47:28.680
<v Speaker 3>not mixing these up enough. They're all going for the

0:47:28.760 --> 0:47:31.600
<v Speaker 3>same truck, yeah, to these various restaurants.

0:47:32.880 --> 0:47:34.799
<v Speaker 2>So how long can your luck hold out when your

0:47:34.800 --> 0:47:36.879
<v Speaker 2>partner is a made man from Sicily who's a member

0:47:36.880 --> 0:47:39.080
<v Speaker 2>of the club with crime family and you're working he's

0:47:39.120 --> 0:47:41.720
<v Speaker 2>working a strip club, underground casinos in his South.

0:47:41.560 --> 0:47:44.120
<v Speaker 3>Carolina everything, his whole existence.

0:47:44.200 --> 0:47:46.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, not to mention he's the proprietor of the Church

0:47:46.040 --> 0:47:48.480
<v Speaker 2>of the Fuzzy Bunny, right exactly. Anyway, if you want

0:47:48.520 --> 0:47:50.400
<v Speaker 2>to keep a secret between two people, only way to

0:47:50.440 --> 0:47:52.440
<v Speaker 2>do that is to kill the other person. Right, But

0:47:52.520 --> 0:47:55.719
<v Speaker 2>now Uncle Jerry has this growing circle looking huge who

0:47:55.800 --> 0:47:58.319
<v Speaker 2>know about a secret? And the butcher Yeah, and one

0:47:58.360 --> 0:48:00.840
<v Speaker 2>of them is a legitimate made man from the five family.

0:48:02.800 --> 0:48:06.680
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, exactly. So at this point the late nineties,

0:48:06.760 --> 0:48:10.000
<v Speaker 2>Uncle Jerry is minting new millionaires with his stolen game pieces,

0:48:10.120 --> 0:48:12.239
<v Speaker 2>but still no one's the wiser. So what does he do?

0:48:12.560 --> 0:48:16.120
<v Speaker 2>Of course, he gets sloppy with it. He didn't only

0:48:16.160 --> 0:48:18.440
<v Speaker 2>work with Colombo because he liked to be like the

0:48:18.480 --> 0:48:21.359
<v Speaker 2>fairy godmother of stolen monopoly money. So he decides he'd

0:48:21.360 --> 0:48:23.399
<v Speaker 2>give a step brother another instant.

0:48:23.120 --> 0:48:25.920
<v Speaker 3>Winner game piece out of here, so he didn't win twice.

0:48:26.120 --> 0:48:29.040
<v Speaker 2>Yes, when that works, he gave you the first time,

0:48:29.080 --> 0:48:31.600
<v Speaker 2>he gives him another, and get this, Jerry goes here broke.

0:48:31.640 --> 0:48:35.320
<v Speaker 2>He gives his brother in law a million dollar instant winner. What, yes,

0:48:35.920 --> 0:48:38.080
<v Speaker 2>but his brother in law claims he never cashed it in.

0:48:38.560 --> 0:48:40.840
<v Speaker 2>He says he put it in the toilet and flushed it.

0:48:41.120 --> 0:48:43.560
<v Speaker 2>He's like, he's an idiot. I don't want to get caught.

0:48:43.640 --> 0:48:44.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah right, that's smart.

0:48:45.040 --> 0:48:48.040
<v Speaker 2>So Jerry moves on to other family members. He's at

0:48:48.080 --> 0:48:50.600
<v Speaker 2>a family wedding and he gives his nephew a two

0:48:50.640 --> 0:48:53.760
<v Speaker 2>hundred grand instant winner in exchange for forty five grand

0:48:54.280 --> 0:48:56.360
<v Speaker 2>and so yeah, and then while they're talking about it,

0:48:56.440 --> 0:48:58.319
<v Speaker 2>a cousin. Hears them talking and he's like, you know,

0:48:58.480 --> 0:49:01.320
<v Speaker 2>I could use an instant win. Your uncle jer Jerry

0:49:01.320 --> 0:49:02.360
<v Speaker 2>hooked him up too.

0:49:02.760 --> 0:49:04.880
<v Speaker 3>So now he's he's.

0:49:04.760 --> 0:49:07.200
<v Speaker 2>Really pressing his luck. It's nineteen ninety eight. It's only

0:49:07.280 --> 0:49:09.719
<v Speaker 2>a matter of time before Jerry's secret philanthropy for his

0:49:09.760 --> 0:49:13.280
<v Speaker 2>family gets discovered. Plus he's now handing out nearly all

0:49:13.360 --> 0:49:16.000
<v Speaker 2>of the big cash prize winners. At this point, there

0:49:16.040 --> 0:49:19.280
<v Speaker 2>are no legitimate winners anymore, so to make.

0:49:19.360 --> 0:49:22.799
<v Speaker 3>Everyone else is just looking for fries pretty.

0:49:22.520 --> 0:49:26.120
<v Speaker 2>Much, Jerry legit. There was no million.

0:49:25.800 --> 0:49:27.760
<v Speaker 3>Dollars large soda.

0:49:27.880 --> 0:49:30.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's all you're getting. Maybe a Dodge Viper.

0:49:30.440 --> 0:49:31.839
<v Speaker 3>If you're lucky, big mac.

0:49:32.120 --> 0:49:34.279
<v Speaker 2>So Jerry, at this point he does the thing you're

0:49:34.280 --> 0:49:36.240
<v Speaker 2>not supposed to do. He buys himself a new house

0:49:36.400 --> 0:49:38.680
<v Speaker 2>for he and his new wife, who, by the way,

0:49:38.800 --> 0:49:41.440
<v Speaker 2>claims she knew nothing about any of her husband's monopoly fraud.

0:49:41.560 --> 0:49:43.640
<v Speaker 2>And you know, because you know, I guess she just

0:49:43.680 --> 0:49:49.120
<v Speaker 2>believed Jerry's family was really lucky at Monopoliesonald's. By this point,

0:49:49.239 --> 0:49:51.920
<v Speaker 2>Uncle Jerry's tight with the Columbo crime family, right, so

0:49:52.040 --> 0:49:54.520
<v Speaker 2>tight that they give him a new nickname. They start

0:49:54.560 --> 0:49:56.480
<v Speaker 2>calling him Heraldo Constantino.

0:49:57.480 --> 0:50:00.440
<v Speaker 3>Wait the stop why Italian?

0:50:00.640 --> 0:50:06.640
<v Speaker 2>He goes from being Jerome Jacobson the Heraldo Constantino. Meanwhile,

0:50:06.719 --> 0:50:08.920
<v Speaker 2>Jerry's investing his cut from all the fake winners into

0:50:09.000 --> 0:50:12.319
<v Speaker 2>Lake front Land. He joins this like really hoity toity

0:50:12.480 --> 0:50:14.799
<v Speaker 2>club for classic car lovers, because you know that's the

0:50:14.800 --> 0:50:17.480
<v Speaker 2>big deal in the South. There he meets a member

0:50:17.480 --> 0:50:20.360
<v Speaker 2>of this club. He likes the guys are He's okay,

0:50:20.360 --> 0:50:21.960
<v Speaker 2>you want an instant winter Ka peson.

0:50:22.520 --> 0:50:25.080
<v Speaker 3>He is so desperate for people to like it totally.

0:50:25.239 --> 0:50:27.200
<v Speaker 2>The guy is like totally, and he uses it to

0:50:27.200 --> 0:50:32.600
<v Speaker 2>buy an ultimate Beile. I Remember Colombo. The mobster has

0:50:32.640 --> 0:50:35.239
<v Speaker 2>his wife Robin right Yeah, After she found out that

0:50:35.320 --> 0:50:38.200
<v Speaker 2>Colombo was banging his personal trainer, things grow a little

0:50:38.239 --> 0:50:41.200
<v Speaker 2>weird between them, but just before she could leave him,

0:50:41.400 --> 0:50:44.200
<v Speaker 2>they get into a really bad car accident. After weeks

0:50:44.200 --> 0:50:46.960
<v Speaker 2>in a hospital, the mobster Colombo dies from his injuries.

0:50:47.360 --> 0:50:49.920
<v Speaker 2>After that, Uncle Jerry he now needs a new agent

0:50:49.960 --> 0:50:52.840
<v Speaker 2>to help him find fake winners, so he tries partnering

0:50:52.880 --> 0:50:55.920
<v Speaker 2>with a few other morally compromised men in the southern

0:50:56.120 --> 0:50:59.279
<v Speaker 2>eastern United States. None of them really have it like

0:50:59.320 --> 0:51:02.760
<v Speaker 2>that mobster. A Lumba right until he meets Andrew Glom.

0:51:03.320 --> 0:51:06.960
<v Speaker 2>G l Omb Glam. He was a professional gambler and

0:51:07.000 --> 0:51:08.440
<v Speaker 2>a former cocaine smuggler.

0:51:09.239 --> 0:51:12.719
<v Speaker 3>Perfect, absolutely perfect? Did he is that? How he met?

0:51:12.760 --> 0:51:14.920
<v Speaker 3>They met like a bus stop and he was like, Hi,

0:51:15.560 --> 0:51:18.120
<v Speaker 3>I'm Andy. I used to smuggle coke? What's your name?

0:51:20.400 --> 0:51:22.800
<v Speaker 2>In eighty three and while he was out on bail,

0:51:22.800 --> 0:51:25.480
<v Speaker 2>he fled to Europe, stayed there for sixteen months, and

0:51:25.480 --> 0:51:28.360
<v Speaker 2>then eventually gets caught, sent back to America, does prison,

0:51:28.400 --> 0:51:31.240
<v Speaker 2>does his twelve year stretch inside, and once he gets free,

0:51:31.560 --> 0:51:34.000
<v Speaker 2>that's when he meets Uncle Jerry at a dinner party

0:51:34.080 --> 0:51:34.719
<v Speaker 2>in Atlanta.

0:51:34.880 --> 0:51:37.600
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, who's dinner party?

0:51:37.680 --> 0:51:39.000
<v Speaker 2>What's that that?

0:51:39.520 --> 0:51:40.560
<v Speaker 3>So that's a good question.

0:51:40.600 --> 0:51:42.839
<v Speaker 2>So Uncle Jerry and Glam they go into business now

0:51:42.880 --> 0:51:46.279
<v Speaker 2>finding new fake winners. Instead of picking trusted confidants the

0:51:46.280 --> 0:51:49.279
<v Speaker 2>way Colombo had, or picking family members the way Jerry did,

0:51:49.640 --> 0:51:52.960
<v Speaker 2>Glom picked his former associates in the drug smuggling.

0:51:52.480 --> 0:51:56.400
<v Speaker 3>Business because they want they want to be have the

0:51:56.400 --> 0:51:57.120
<v Speaker 3>spotlight on it.

0:51:57.560 --> 0:52:01.040
<v Speaker 2>You probably imagine how that played out Nald's commercials.

0:52:01.280 --> 0:52:04.200
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, they're just like rubbing their noses, like

0:52:06.000 --> 0:52:06.680
<v Speaker 3>all of them.

0:52:08.600 --> 0:52:11.120
<v Speaker 2>We put the next year, in nineteen ninety nine, one

0:52:11.120 --> 0:52:14.240
<v Speaker 2>of McDonald's monopoly million dollars winners was a junior gangster

0:52:14.280 --> 0:52:16.880
<v Speaker 2>who ran a numbers recket out of an Italian restaurant

0:52:16.880 --> 0:52:21.360
<v Speaker 2>in Pittsburgh. So he was smuggling four hundred pounds of cocaine.

0:52:21.480 --> 0:52:23.520
<v Speaker 2>So now this is his big comeback. So there he is,

0:52:23.600 --> 0:52:26.800
<v Speaker 2>like the leather jacket, their slick back hair, just total

0:52:26.840 --> 0:52:29.440
<v Speaker 2>dirt bag in it. So over time, Uncle Jerry gave

0:52:29.520 --> 0:52:33.279
<v Speaker 2>glom eight different million dollar winning game pieces to hand

0:52:33.320 --> 0:52:35.799
<v Speaker 2>out to his dirtbag associates. Eight of them.

0:52:36.080 --> 0:52:38.239
<v Speaker 3>Well, you know, he gets the big thing, and McDonald's

0:52:38.280 --> 0:52:41.360
<v Speaker 3>is like, we're not gonna do when's the press conference.

0:52:41.360 --> 0:52:44.400
<v Speaker 2>He's like, they run national ads and they're like in

0:52:44.480 --> 0:52:48.800
<v Speaker 2>People magazine. It's crazy. So McDonald's has all these goombog

0:52:48.880 --> 0:52:53.080
<v Speaker 2>gangster it just happened to be really big McDonald's eaters. Meanwhile,

0:52:53.160 --> 0:52:55.640
<v Speaker 2>Jerry is still handing out lesser prizes to the people

0:52:55.640 --> 0:52:58.440
<v Speaker 2>in his own life. For instance, his psychic who was

0:52:58.440 --> 0:52:59.400
<v Speaker 2>also his kind.

0:52:59.200 --> 0:53:01.840
<v Speaker 3>Of wait wait wait wait.

0:53:01.840 --> 0:53:05.120
<v Speaker 2>No, it's better than that. His psychic was also his chiropractor.

0:53:05.400 --> 0:53:10.080
<v Speaker 3>Stop it, no, you stop this. Are you just pulling

0:53:10.080 --> 0:53:11.640
<v Speaker 3>these out of a bag. Do you have like a

0:53:11.680 --> 0:53:16.440
<v Speaker 3>crown royal bag full of crazy paper with crazy like

0:53:16.480 --> 0:53:19.240
<v Speaker 3>magnetic tiles, refrigerator, psychic chiro.

0:53:19.800 --> 0:53:22.760
<v Speaker 2>He gave a second chiropractor a fifty thousand dollars instant

0:53:22.800 --> 0:53:26.760
<v Speaker 2>winter in exchange for some psychic readings and body alignments. No,

0:53:27.440 --> 0:53:30.560
<v Speaker 2>and get this, Elizabeth. His psychic chiropractor couldn't see that

0:53:30.640 --> 0:53:32.640
<v Speaker 2>Uncle Jerry's good fortune was about to change.

0:53:32.680 --> 0:53:32.839
<v Speaker 3>Right.

0:53:33.680 --> 0:53:36.440
<v Speaker 2>I remember how Colombo died from that really bad car accident. Right,

0:53:36.680 --> 0:53:40.560
<v Speaker 2>that family wasn't convinced that his wife, Robin didn't have

0:53:40.600 --> 0:53:42.680
<v Speaker 2>something to do with it, because she survived. She's in

0:53:42.760 --> 0:53:43.160
<v Speaker 2>the car.

0:53:43.440 --> 0:53:45.280
<v Speaker 3>Was it like a Tony and Christopher?

0:53:45.440 --> 0:53:47.400
<v Speaker 2>That's what she was. That's what the family's thinking. So

0:53:47.440 --> 0:53:50.480
<v Speaker 2>they cut her off. After Colombo passes then, which means

0:53:50.480 --> 0:53:52.560
<v Speaker 2>she gets, you know, to keep living a good life,

0:53:52.760 --> 0:53:55.880
<v Speaker 2>she has to turn to pulling forgery jobs, credit card fraud,

0:53:56.040 --> 0:53:58.640
<v Speaker 2>insurance fraud. She's not good at it. She gets caught,

0:53:58.680 --> 0:54:01.280
<v Speaker 2>she goes to prison. Oh well, she's inside. The Columbo

0:54:01.320 --> 0:54:04.799
<v Speaker 2>family takes care of her son, Frankie, who is their grandson. Yeah,

0:54:04.920 --> 0:54:06.560
<v Speaker 2>but when she gets out of prison, she wants her

0:54:06.600 --> 0:54:08.839
<v Speaker 2>son back. And as she put it, Frankie was their

0:54:08.880 --> 0:54:12.640
<v Speaker 2>first grandson. And you know how Sicilians are, sure we

0:54:12.719 --> 0:54:15.000
<v Speaker 2>all do. So it's no surprise to me that after

0:54:15.080 --> 0:54:17.480
<v Speaker 2>Robin tries to cut off contact with the Colombos and

0:54:17.520 --> 0:54:18.880
<v Speaker 2>then they have to take her son, and then she

0:54:18.880 --> 0:54:20.520
<v Speaker 2>gets out of prison and she wants her son back

0:54:20.600 --> 0:54:23.040
<v Speaker 2>and she tries to cut off contact again. I don't know,

0:54:23.400 --> 0:54:25.560
<v Speaker 2>they tried to take the grandson away from her, and

0:54:25.600 --> 0:54:27.560
<v Speaker 2>then she's like trying to fight this. And then suddenly

0:54:27.600 --> 0:54:31.879
<v Speaker 2>somebody anonymously reports to the FBI that Robin's father, her

0:54:31.920 --> 0:54:35.640
<v Speaker 2>best friend, her cousin had all won the McDonald's monopoly game.

0:54:35.840 --> 0:54:36.920
<v Speaker 2>Sure was a lucky.

0:54:36.640 --> 0:54:38.560
<v Speaker 3>Family af rely very lucky.

0:54:38.680 --> 0:54:41.440
<v Speaker 2>So in March to two thousand, the FBI launches an investigation.

0:54:42.120 --> 0:54:43.640
<v Speaker 2>By this point, there was a new game show on

0:54:43.719 --> 0:54:45.960
<v Speaker 2>TV that also gave that million dollar priz It's called

0:54:46.000 --> 0:54:48.560
<v Speaker 2>Who Wants to Be a Millionaire? So the FBI named

0:54:48.640 --> 0:54:50.560
<v Speaker 2>their investigation Final.

0:54:50.239 --> 0:54:53.080
<v Speaker 3>Answer Stop itah so good.

0:54:53.239 --> 0:54:56.240
<v Speaker 2>Especially Agent Richard Dent was on the case right working

0:54:56.280 --> 0:55:02.000
<v Speaker 2>with the nationwide team FBI agent's helping him chase down

0:55:02.040 --> 0:55:05.320
<v Speaker 2>every lead and investigating all these million dollar winners dating

0:55:05.360 --> 0:55:08.160
<v Speaker 2>back all the way through the nineties. Meanwhile, Uncle Jerry

0:55:08.239 --> 0:55:11.080
<v Speaker 2>still busy minting new millionaires as fast as he can.

0:55:12.480 --> 0:55:14.759
<v Speaker 2>So after a year, flash forward to July of two

0:55:14.800 --> 0:55:17.960
<v Speaker 2>thousand and one, McDonald's informs the FBI that they're about

0:55:17.960 --> 0:55:21.680
<v Speaker 2>to launch the second of their bi annual McDonald's Monopoly games.

0:55:21.680 --> 0:55:24.319
<v Speaker 2>Because they know about the FBI's investigation, they're working with them.

0:55:24.680 --> 0:55:27.120
<v Speaker 2>The folks a corporate They want to cancel the game

0:55:27.200 --> 0:55:29.759
<v Speaker 2>since they know it's rigged, and it's only a matter

0:55:29.800 --> 0:55:31.879
<v Speaker 2>of time before the news comes out and McDonald's gonna

0:55:31.920 --> 0:55:34.040
<v Speaker 2>have a pr nightmare. But the FBI is like, hey,

0:55:34.280 --> 0:55:37.399
<v Speaker 2>do one more game and we'll bust whoever's behind it soon.

0:55:37.480 --> 0:55:40.759
<v Speaker 2>We prompt it'll all be over. CEO McDonald's has to

0:55:40.920 --> 0:55:43.080
<v Speaker 2>make up their mind. He's like, let me think it over.

0:55:43.320 --> 0:55:45.400
<v Speaker 2>Eventually he's like, okay, sure, let's let's do it. So

0:55:45.480 --> 0:55:48.080
<v Speaker 2>the fast food Giant runs the new Monopoly game right

0:55:48.239 --> 0:55:50.960
<v Speaker 2>before single winner is announced. Uncle Jerry managed it to

0:55:50.960 --> 0:55:54.440
<v Speaker 2>steal both of the million dollar instant Winter games. He

0:55:54.520 --> 0:55:57.680
<v Speaker 2>hands over one to his partner, the former cocaine smuggler Glom,

0:55:58.120 --> 0:55:59.839
<v Speaker 2>and he gave the other instant winner to a friend

0:55:59.840 --> 0:56:02.439
<v Speaker 2>of who had had some hard times and could really

0:56:02.520 --> 0:56:05.520
<v Speaker 2>use the money, right, And he's like, so his friend's

0:56:05.520 --> 0:56:08.400
<v Speaker 2>able to get like seventy grand together, and he buys.

0:56:08.120 --> 0:56:10.279
<v Speaker 3>The winning game in the Southeast.

0:56:10.360 --> 0:56:13.560
<v Speaker 2>Yes. Total. Meanwhile, the FBI is on the case, right,

0:56:13.600 --> 0:56:17.200
<v Speaker 2>So thanks to wiretaps, they're now following Glom, the cocaine smuggler,

0:56:17.400 --> 0:56:20.200
<v Speaker 2>and Uncle Jerry. So the FBI follows Uncle Jerry to

0:56:20.239 --> 0:56:23.400
<v Speaker 2>a small town called Corbin, Kentucky, where the agents watch

0:56:23.480 --> 0:56:25.600
<v Speaker 2>him meet up with the new fake winner, this guy

0:56:25.680 --> 0:56:28.920
<v Speaker 2>Dwight Baker. His sister in law had already had a

0:56:28.960 --> 0:56:33.720
<v Speaker 2>five hundred thousand dollars instant winner. So now the FBI

0:56:33.840 --> 0:56:37.439
<v Speaker 2>is watching Baker and Uncle Jerry get this a McDonald's bag,

0:56:37.560 --> 0:56:41.320
<v Speaker 2>nice cute touch inside is the seventy grand. In return,

0:56:41.480 --> 0:56:44.120
<v Speaker 2>Jerry hands him the million dollar winner. So the FBI

0:56:44.200 --> 0:56:46.359
<v Speaker 2>watches it. They're like, okay, good to rights. Yeah, the

0:56:46.400 --> 0:56:49.080
<v Speaker 2>Baker passes a ticket off to a trusted confidant who

0:56:49.120 --> 0:56:52.880
<v Speaker 2>lives in Texas, right who then you know, they contact

0:56:52.920 --> 0:56:55.680
<v Speaker 2>McDonald's to inform them of their good luck. Folks from

0:56:55.719 --> 0:56:58.720
<v Speaker 2>McDonald's corporate call the FBI. They're like, and the FBI

0:56:58.840 --> 0:57:01.560
<v Speaker 2>is like, is the new winner? On Davis from Granbury, Texas.

0:57:01.760 --> 0:57:05.640
<v Speaker 2>They're like, whoa, you guys are good. The McDonald's court

0:57:05.680 --> 0:57:08.000
<v Speaker 2>people are totally impressed. The g men had been clocking

0:57:08.080 --> 0:57:10.319
<v Speaker 2>it all with their wire taps. They'd figured it all out.

0:57:10.360 --> 0:57:12.719
<v Speaker 2>So now they set their trap right. Not only do

0:57:12.840 --> 0:57:15.799
<v Speaker 2>they plan to celebrate the latest million dollar winter, but

0:57:16.400 --> 0:57:18.440
<v Speaker 2>they tell them that we're gonna invite all the previous

0:57:18.480 --> 0:57:21.560
<v Speaker 2>winners to Las Vegas for a winners reunion.

0:57:21.640 --> 0:57:22.959
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, this is so good.

0:57:23.040 --> 0:57:24.840
<v Speaker 2>But the FBI is like, no, no, man, that'll probably

0:57:24.880 --> 0:57:26.880
<v Speaker 2>tip our hands. They're gonna talk, they're gonna think that

0:57:26.920 --> 0:57:30.000
<v Speaker 2>they know each other too obvious. So instead they focus

0:57:30.040 --> 0:57:31.800
<v Speaker 2>on the new winner that came forward, the one that

0:57:31.920 --> 0:57:35.640
<v Speaker 2>glom the former cocaine smuggler head selection. So they set

0:57:35.680 --> 0:57:39.600
<v Speaker 2>up a commercial shoot featuring this latest lucky winner. The

0:57:39.600 --> 0:57:42.680
<v Speaker 2>man's name is Michael Hoover. He's from producer D's home

0:57:42.720 --> 0:57:46.320
<v Speaker 2>state of Rhode Island. So August third, two thousand and one,

0:57:46.440 --> 0:57:49.240
<v Speaker 2>film crew shows up in Westerly, Rhode Island. Right they

0:57:49.280 --> 0:57:52.000
<v Speaker 2>arrived with one of those giant checks to be featured

0:57:52.000 --> 0:57:54.760
<v Speaker 2>in the commercial. Cameras are rolling. They knock on the

0:57:54.800 --> 0:57:57.080
<v Speaker 2>door of a town ass the home of the new winner,

0:57:57.120 --> 0:57:59.640
<v Speaker 2>this fifty six year old bachelor who also happens to

0:57:59.680 --> 0:58:03.080
<v Speaker 2>be a recently bankrupt casino pit boss. The big Lucky

0:58:03.080 --> 0:58:07.760
<v Speaker 2>writer Michael Hoop. The cameras rolling the folks from McDonald's

0:58:07.760 --> 0:58:10.480
<v Speaker 2>corporate hand Michael the giant check, and they asked him

0:58:10.480 --> 0:58:12.000
<v Speaker 2>to tell us about yours, you know, the stroke of

0:58:12.080 --> 0:58:15.560
<v Speaker 2>luck for you winning the monopoly millions. Right, Hoover tell

0:58:15.640 --> 0:58:18.400
<v Speaker 2>us some cock of amy story. Once again, another child's

0:58:18.400 --> 0:58:20.120
<v Speaker 2>lie about how he was. You know I was. I

0:58:20.160 --> 0:58:24.120
<v Speaker 2>was sleeping on the beach. Stop No, but I woke up.

0:58:25.480 --> 0:58:27.120
<v Speaker 2>I went down to the water's edge to like, you know,

0:58:27.120 --> 0:58:29.200
<v Speaker 2>wipe the sand from me, and he stooped over and

0:58:29.520 --> 0:58:32.280
<v Speaker 2>my copy of People magazine dropped into the water right

0:58:32.280 --> 0:58:34.560
<v Speaker 2>there in the Atlantic. Me being an avid read of

0:58:34.560 --> 0:58:36.400
<v Speaker 2>People Magazine, I went to a grocery store and I

0:58:36.400 --> 0:58:39.160
<v Speaker 2>got myself a fresh copy. So would you know inside

0:58:39.160 --> 0:58:41.440
<v Speaker 2>of that it's the second copy of People. I find

0:58:41.440 --> 0:58:45.920
<v Speaker 2>the instant win a game piece. What luck? That's his story? What? Yes,

0:58:46.800 --> 0:58:47.320
<v Speaker 2>it was in.

0:58:47.320 --> 0:58:48.600
<v Speaker 3>A copy of People magazine.

0:58:48.600 --> 0:58:51.640
<v Speaker 2>Because remember it's a sweepstake. So in this case, they

0:58:51.640 --> 0:58:54.080
<v Speaker 2>had put him out because they.

0:58:54.080 --> 0:58:55.200
<v Speaker 3>Had game pieces in the.

0:58:56.840 --> 0:58:58.080
<v Speaker 2>Most recent People.

0:58:57.800 --> 0:59:00.480
<v Speaker 3>Why do we have to hear?

0:59:00.960 --> 0:59:03.400
<v Speaker 2>So the folks from McDonald's corporate, they're trying to keep

0:59:03.400 --> 0:59:05.880
<v Speaker 2>straight faces as he tells his obvious lie. So is

0:59:05.880 --> 0:59:08.480
<v Speaker 2>the film crew. It turns out the film crew is

0:59:08.520 --> 0:59:12.080
<v Speaker 2>also undercover FBI agents. It's incredible a week and a

0:59:12.080 --> 0:59:15.280
<v Speaker 2>half later, satisfied that they have great courtroom evidence now,

0:59:15.320 --> 0:59:18.000
<v Speaker 2>especially because they have this fake commercial filmed and you

0:59:18.040 --> 0:59:20.840
<v Speaker 2>know Jerry's love that that kind of stuff. The sting operation,

0:59:20.960 --> 0:59:23.080
<v Speaker 2>this is great. With the pig check and the People

0:59:23.160 --> 0:59:25.960
<v Speaker 2>magazine form in the Atlantic to the FBI. They make

0:59:26.000 --> 0:59:28.320
<v Speaker 2>their move. And you know how the FBI they love

0:59:28.400 --> 0:59:29.920
<v Speaker 2>to show up at your front door for a pre

0:59:30.040 --> 0:59:32.840
<v Speaker 2>dawn raid and catch you sleeping. Well, that's how they

0:59:32.880 --> 0:59:33.880
<v Speaker 2>grabbed Uncle Jerry.

0:59:34.480 --> 0:59:35.360
<v Speaker 3>Knock knock knock.

0:59:35.480 --> 0:59:37.480
<v Speaker 2>They let him out of his house in his handcuffs

0:59:37.960 --> 0:59:40.480
<v Speaker 2>to embarrass him in front of all his neighbors, right

0:59:40.480 --> 0:59:42.720
<v Speaker 2>and instead, then they go and they arrest the five

0:59:42.840 --> 0:59:46.600
<v Speaker 2>most recent fraudulent winners. And then also they arrest Jerry's partner,

0:59:46.680 --> 0:59:51.080
<v Speaker 2>the former cocaine smuggler glom All. In all, fifty defendants

0:59:51.200 --> 0:59:54.919
<v Speaker 2>were arrested as part of this FBI's case fifty. When

0:59:54.920 --> 0:59:58.000
<v Speaker 2>the news breaks on this Elizabeth, it's huge national news.

0:59:58.120 --> 1:00:00.720
<v Speaker 2>The Attorney General at the time, John Ashcar and now

1:00:01.600 --> 1:00:03.720
<v Speaker 2>the news of the FBI bus. He informs the press

1:00:03.760 --> 1:00:06.320
<v Speaker 2>that those involved in this type of corruption will find

1:00:06.320 --> 1:00:10.160
<v Speaker 2>out that breaking the law is no game. How long

1:00:10.200 --> 1:00:11.600
<v Speaker 2>do you think he worked on that line up?

1:00:12.040 --> 1:00:15.800
<v Speaker 3>A workshop that at home for a very long time.

1:00:15.880 --> 1:00:19.520
<v Speaker 2>Now, while we're talking about John Ashcroft's abundant creativity, do

1:00:19.560 --> 1:00:22.160
<v Speaker 2>you remember John Ashcroft's song Let the Eagle Soar?

1:00:22.320 --> 1:00:25.360
<v Speaker 3>I do? I also remember how the statues of Justice

1:00:25.440 --> 1:00:27.480
<v Speaker 3>he didn't like that they were bare breasted in the

1:00:27.520 --> 1:00:28.560
<v Speaker 3>severed and fabric.

1:00:28.600 --> 1:00:30.160
<v Speaker 2>Do you know he also had a music group when

1:00:30.160 --> 1:00:33.200
<v Speaker 2>he was a US senator. I'm no surprise, barbershop quartet.

1:00:33.240 --> 1:00:36.240
<v Speaker 2>They were called Good Lord the Singing Senators. You want

1:00:36.240 --> 1:00:39.120
<v Speaker 2>to guess who was in the Singing Senators? It was

1:00:39.200 --> 1:00:43.000
<v Speaker 2>John Ashcroft. He sang baritone, Larry Craig he sang lead,

1:00:43.720 --> 1:00:47.920
<v Speaker 2>Jim Jefferts was the tenor, and Trent Lott sang bass.

1:00:47.960 --> 1:00:49.680
<v Speaker 3>Wow Wow.

1:00:49.760 --> 1:00:53.280
<v Speaker 2>They're known for their barbershop quartet redition of the Oakridge

1:00:53.320 --> 1:00:57.480
<v Speaker 2>Boys hit song Elvi. They sang it at the Kennedy Center.

1:00:58.120 --> 1:01:01.000
<v Speaker 2>They also sang it on the Today Shows sickening. The

1:01:01.040 --> 1:01:03.960
<v Speaker 2>group broke up in two thousand and seven after Senator

1:01:04.040 --> 1:01:07.880
<v Speaker 2>Larry Craig include contact and solicitation of sex in a

1:01:07.920 --> 1:01:11.680
<v Speaker 2>Minneapolis airport men's room tapping. Yeah exactly. He was busted

1:01:11.720 --> 1:01:14.120
<v Speaker 2>by an undercover cop and due to the scandal, he

1:01:14.200 --> 1:01:15.120
<v Speaker 2>had resigned office.

1:01:15.240 --> 1:01:15.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

1:01:15.560 --> 1:01:18.720
<v Speaker 2>Anyway, remember how Uncle Jerry gave that million dollar ticket

1:01:18.800 --> 1:01:20.960
<v Speaker 2>to Saint Jude's Children's Possible and he thought, if I

1:01:21.000 --> 1:01:23.120
<v Speaker 2>ever get busted, that will help me out. Yeah, it

1:01:23.160 --> 1:01:26.400
<v Speaker 2>did not, Elizabeth. He was looking at forty five years

1:01:26.400 --> 1:01:28.680
<v Speaker 2>behind bars. If he ever got out of prison, he'd

1:01:28.720 --> 1:01:31.120
<v Speaker 2>be one hundred and four years old. Right, So in staid,

1:01:31.160 --> 1:01:33.760
<v Speaker 2>he cuts a deal, right, He agrees to plead guilty

1:01:33.800 --> 1:01:36.959
<v Speaker 2>and receives a sentence of fifteen years behind bars. Of course,

1:01:36.960 --> 1:01:39.880
<v Speaker 2>he loses everything. He loses his home, his like front property,

1:01:39.920 --> 1:01:42.840
<v Speaker 2>his classic car collection, he loses it all wall in court,

1:01:42.920 --> 1:01:45.160
<v Speaker 2>Uncle Jerry confessed it. Over the course of his career

1:01:45.160 --> 1:01:48.840
<v Speaker 2>as a Monopoly game fixer, he handed out sixty winning

1:01:48.880 --> 1:01:53.520
<v Speaker 2>game pieces worth twenty four million dollars. And that's how

1:01:54.040 --> 1:01:57.880
<v Speaker 2>Uncle Jerry aka Heraldo Constantino gets busted for rigging the

1:01:57.920 --> 1:02:00.800
<v Speaker 2>McDonald's monopoly game. And get this. Of the reason why

1:02:00.840 --> 1:02:03.640
<v Speaker 2>this story got memory hold and a lot of people

1:02:03.800 --> 1:02:06.640
<v Speaker 2>have never heard of it is that the FBI's court

1:02:06.680 --> 1:02:10.640
<v Speaker 2>case began on September tenth, two thousand and one, you're kidding,

1:02:10.760 --> 1:02:13.600
<v Speaker 2>one day before nine to eleven. So the story gets

1:02:13.680 --> 1:02:15.760
<v Speaker 2>lost in the news. It pales in comparison to the

1:02:15.800 --> 1:02:18.000
<v Speaker 2>birth of the new post nine world.

1:02:18.120 --> 1:02:20.840
<v Speaker 3>Keep happening, you keep hearing these things. That's wild.

1:02:20.960 --> 1:02:23.320
<v Speaker 2>I should point out the McDonald's did agree to honor

1:02:23.360 --> 1:02:25.720
<v Speaker 2>the winning ticket that Uncle Jerry gave to Saint Jude's

1:02:25.760 --> 1:02:28.720
<v Speaker 2>Children Hospital, so that's good and good and the actually

1:02:28.760 --> 1:02:30.840
<v Speaker 2>they didn't even really play it up for pr but

1:02:32.160 --> 1:02:34.160
<v Speaker 2>some people did find out that McDonald it was just

1:02:34.160 --> 1:02:37.520
<v Speaker 2>to say it was like a good karma, right yeah.

1:02:37.800 --> 1:02:40.320
<v Speaker 2>But still people found out that McDonald's have been running

1:02:40.360 --> 1:02:43.040
<v Speaker 2>a rig game, but none of their customers had a

1:02:43.240 --> 1:02:45.760
<v Speaker 2>chance of winning for twice a year for at least

1:02:45.800 --> 1:02:50.320
<v Speaker 2>six years. That is what's a ridiculous takeaway here.

1:02:50.440 --> 1:02:53.280
<v Speaker 3>Oh my god, if you're gonna crime like I don't know,

1:02:53.600 --> 1:02:56.640
<v Speaker 3>you can't. You can't spread it out that wide. And

1:02:56.680 --> 1:02:58.720
<v Speaker 3>if you are gonna if you have to spread it,

1:02:58.840 --> 1:03:04.520
<v Speaker 3>you can't like you cannot, and don't go to a

1:03:04.520 --> 1:03:07.520
<v Speaker 3>psychic Kira, don't go to a chiropractor, but especially his

1:03:07.640 --> 1:03:09.920
<v Speaker 3>psychic carap ridiculous tackling.

1:03:10.360 --> 1:03:14.360
<v Speaker 2>Oh man, I think that he should have stayed with

1:03:14.440 --> 1:03:17.640
<v Speaker 2>the mob and not gone to the B level like

1:03:17.720 --> 1:03:22.280
<v Speaker 2>cocaine smugglers. I think they're just messy glom Definitely. I

1:03:22.320 --> 1:03:25.040
<v Speaker 2>think if you would have stayed with the Colombo crime family,

1:03:25.600 --> 1:03:27.560
<v Speaker 2>they either they would have whacked him when it was like, oh,

1:03:27.600 --> 1:03:29.400
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna run into trouble, this is gonna be bad news,

1:03:29.440 --> 1:03:30.640
<v Speaker 2>and then all of a sudden Fi is like, oh

1:03:30.800 --> 1:03:33.960
<v Speaker 2>her main suspect is gone or you know, I think

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<v Speaker 2>that you know, that would be where I think he

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<v Speaker 2>made his mistake. And also the other one is try

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<v Speaker 2>to limit who you talk to in airports because you

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<v Speaker 2>end up in a scenario. Absolutely, so you in the

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<v Speaker 2>moved for a talkback. We can watch this all down

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<v Speaker 2>like a nice tall soda.

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<v Speaker 3>Um.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, PRIs, can you favor us with one? Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>did you just see the.

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<v Speaker 3>Helled?

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<v Speaker 6>Hello Sarn Elizabeth and producer Dee. This is Hannah. I

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<v Speaker 6>am a new listener, really enjoying the show, and I

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<v Speaker 6>just listened to the college Football Pranks episode and that

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<v Speaker 6>reminded me. You know what's ridiculous. My grandmother once stole

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<v Speaker 6>the Washington State University's mascot, which is a live cougar.

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<v Speaker 6>She and her friends drove down from Gonzaga University, picked

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<v Speaker 6>up the cougar, brought it back with them to Gonzaga,

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<v Speaker 6>and once they sobered up, thought better of it and

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<v Speaker 6>took it back. This is allegedly all true, or so

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<v Speaker 6>it says, Grandma.

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<v Speaker 2>Your grandma Mountain Lion.

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<v Speaker 3>Aha. That's incredible, amazing, amazing, so good.

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<v Speaker 2>Props to grandma.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, that was excellent, Oh my god, thank you for that.

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<v Speaker 3>Come from a long line of amazing women.

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<v Speaker 2>It sounds like, well, thank you for listening. Always. You

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